What If Jack From ‘Titanic’ Lived? Secretary of Drool 7.24.19

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season ninety two, episode
three of Dirt Day zeit Geist, a production by Heart Radio.
This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
into America's share consciousness and say, officially, off the top,
fuck Coking, di screes and funk Fox News. It's Wednesday,
July ninety. My name is Jack O'Brien a k If

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the zake Geist the only new, if the Zake guys
the only new, if the Like Gang only new, that
Myles was still and it only that is courtesy if

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not by the hairs of my chin chin and I'm
thrilled to be joined as always buy my co host
or is it Mr Miles Whispiles? Well, step back from
that far, my friend cut times with all the mix
that you've been recorded then, and if you mentioned Tuscany again,

(01:04):
I would understand. Thank you. Kawai Leonard Cohen at Gotham
City j c C. I just saw a third Eyeline recently.
Did you live yet on the street, bust. I don't
want to go to their shows, you know, I fall
him around for really yeah down in um follow them.

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You're like like a deadhead like fish fan blind boys.
We call him it was a Blind Boys of Elevator
and the Blind Boys. You know what I mean, that's
what the that's where the Blind Boys Elvan Jenny right exactly.
I was actually really impressed that you were be boxing
and singing at the same time. Really clean. I don't know,
I mean I was around Albadan, so I decided I'd

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try it live on Mike for the first time. I'll
pay it off. Yes, you're very casual to them a
little word, but all right. Oh, we're thrilled to be
joined in our third seat by the very funny and
talent into Vince Mancini. Hey, you guys gonna have to
pay for those songs or is that like covered by her? Now?
It's actually we've had our lawyers listened to an episode

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and they said that their singing is bad nump, that
it's unrecognizable. Yeah. Well, they said, if anything, we open
ourselves up for some kind of like assault charge. That's right.
How you been, Vince, I've been great. I've I've never
made my lawyer listened to any of my podcasts. That's
why I still my lawyer. Yeah, yeah, I need a

(02:32):
lawyer that would be good. Tell me about it. Yeah. Uh, well, Vince.
We're gonna get to know you a little bit better
in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a
few of the things we're talking about today. We're talking
about laugh tracks, because you know, we we need to
bring them back into podcasts. Are there any podcasts I
have laugh tracks? I don't think so there should be.

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I mean one that isn't like meant to be a
like a radio play that has an audience, like one
that they're aggressively off tracking. Yeah, it should be like
a Gallagher podcast. Yeah, podcast, I thought for a second
till his brother stole it right, smash this pot. It
was conservative or something, or maybe maybe I'm mistaking that.
We're gonna do another Muller preview because he has gotten

(03:16):
some marching orders from Trump's team. We're going to talk
about Joseph Biden preparing for these upcoming events, uh, these
upcoming debates by preemptively avoiding dodging some smoke. We're going
to talk about what we've learned about the Maga bomber
from last year, how he descended into being the Maga

(03:39):
Was that last year? Was it or this year? I
don't know mann Uh No, it was last year, we're
gonna talk about Commerce Department telling Wilbur Ross to get
the funk out, uh, the Aisiana cops being fired for
saying AOC should be shot, the fact that China runs

(03:59):
the movie industry, and the fact that Leonardo DiCaprio uh
still won't answer the question we all want to know,
which is why he killed himself at the end of Titanic.
But first, Vince, what is something from your search history
that's revealing about who you are? Let's see, I don't
have my search history. I just have my like browser history, right, Yeah,

(04:22):
let's see. So I was reading about Oliver Stone asking
Putin to be his godfather, to be his own godfather. Yeah,
I mean I'm just fascinated with Oliver Stone's brain in general. Yeah,
it's like all of the bad Boomer opinions, but just
combined in ways of almost never see and it's like
like the Boomers, like he peeked in the early nineties

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and like since then it's just been like, Yeah, I
saw him at like a Thai food restaurant in UH
in East Hollywood once and it was exactly like you'd
imagine where his head looks like three or four sizes
too big, and you can just like hear him talking
from across the room and it's like about topics that
you would expect Oliver Stone to be talking about about JFK.
He's talking about Russia Gate. It was great, but wait,

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so what did he he was asking Putent? Is that
a real thing? So, like alver Stone is like seventy
something year years old, but he's still convinced that he's
like an edge lord, and so he like went from
like the Russia threat is overrated to Vladimir Putin is
good actually, And he had this conversation with him about

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like how the anti gay propaganda law that they have
in Russia, which is basically like their blanket excuse to like,
I don't know, crack down on homosexuals. He has like
a biker gang that goes around him eats up gay people.
He has a pre paramilitary and Oliver Stone is like, yeah,
I wish we should, we could have we could have
a lot like that. It sounds like a good idea really, Yeah,

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So he's just like a right winging homophobe. Now he
went so far left that he like came around the
other side and he's like far right. Yeah, yeah, he's
like he's he had like some anti trans stuff. He's
like a non feminist turf somehow. And then also like
the A Putin is good actually a guy? Yeah, which
is an opinion you rarely here. Yeah, takes some flexibility.

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Depends on what podcast you listen to them. You can
get that opinion on red Scare. What is something you
think is overrated? Mr Rogers, Oh shit, I know that's
a that's a controversial take. I don't know. He became
like everybody's like the idea of their favorite guy, and
he became an example of all the best of us.

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And I tried to watch that documentary and like, I
don't know, I just can't take his I thought he
was creepy when I was a little kid. I still
think he's creepy. I don't know, he might be great.
He just gives me the creeps. He always has some
polar fancy on the inside. That's what he said one time,
which is also indistinguishable from what a serial killer would say. Yeah,
he sounds like a cult leader, Like he just reminds

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me of Marshall apple White when he talks. And then
but he doesn't have the cult eyes, right, you eyes
his eyes are giving you like a very fatherly huge
Marshall Marshall apple White ties all hands on deck. Whoa,
his eyeballs were trying to escape from his head at

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all times. But does that thing where he talks really slow,
like the raj Niche guy from uh Wild Country. I
think there's a cult leader thing where they talk really
slow and so you think they're profound somehow because you're
like having to think about every individual word that they say.
But in that guy's case, it was just he was
really high on heroin. When you see Mr Rogers, so

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you just get the creeps. Yeah, Like listening to him talk,
uh yeah, it just it hits that part of my
brain that cult leaders hit. And I know he's not that.
I mean, he might not be a creep, but he
acts on my brain in the same way that when
he said he's over it, I was like, oh shit,
he's about to drop some fucking story right now that

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because that's like the one thing I think every person
dreads to hear is like, is Mr Rodgers ever going
to be canceled? Yeah, they're going to cancel him, don't
do it. I Mean, the guy that the new movie
is about is trying to cancel him and he he
just can't. It's the uncancellable Mr. Rogers was the title
that they tried to go with. Um wasn't testing very well. Yeah,

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that's one of the X men. He's just that's his power, uncancellable.
He's was like super problematic. Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting. I
wonder how much of him never being problematic is just
that he was not like enormously powerful in his time,
Like if he was having the moment that he currently

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is having when he was still alive, where he was
just this like international icon of like folksy American Gandhi,
like if he would have maintained his sanity, but he
was still just a public radio, public media, normal dude
while he was still alive. Yeah, And I think it

(09:03):
just shows, uh, we almost have an inability to believe
that some person could be actually just be that kind. Yeah,
we're like, I don't know, man waiting for that's what says.
Everybody says, that's why he's overrated. It's like, oh, I
think it's I think he only seems creepy because no
one else is that nice. Maybe or maybe he just
talks really slow and yeah, I don't know everyone the hallmarks. Yeah,

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and everyone's projecting like a grandpa. They never had onto him, right,
I need that. Yeah, both him and weird Out were
people who in my early twenties I was like when
I was like kind of going through my cynical stage,
I was like, no, this guy sucked and stuff, and
then like I came back around on him, like when
I was Yeah, I was just riding my skateboard around

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with a backwards cap on, being like double barrel middle fingers.
Those guys suck, but with like the wordly top exactly.
It was. It was Bart Simpson for the record, I
love weird Als. Okay, well there you go. Yeah, what
is something you think is underrated? Underrated? I would say Gloria,
who is the cashier at my local Elpoil Loco. Um,

(10:10):
she does a wonderful job, Like she makes me have
a great day every time I go in there, And
I know that part of it is like she's just
the face of the delicious chicken that I get, and
like the people in the back who like season the chicken,
they're probably doing all the hard work. But you know,
she just greets me with a smile every day. She
really is like the best cashier of any place that

(10:31):
I've ever had. I feel like we have a very
it's an important relationship and doesn't make you feel bad
for eating a Eloil Loco every day. No, and not
only that she does the thing where she you know,
they're reading like off a script where they have to
like try and up sell you things, but she does
it with such a smile and such like a pleasant
attitude that I don't begrudge her, like trying to get
me to sign up for the Eloil local app or

(10:54):
try some you know, chips in guacamoli for two dollars extra.
And but do you ever do you ever fall victim
to the absolutely not know? Wow? You know, just as
kindly back, you're like, Gloria, do you want to put
this on your l Loco American Express? Or wait, you
have one of those, don't you? Don't you? You don't know?
I mean I should you haven't open. If I was
getting points for that, I would be one of like

(11:14):
the most positive effective ways I could use. Though. I'm
really surprised Vince, and I can call you Vince right
now because I know how frequently you come in here
and if you just sign up right, You actually get
ten thousand free Poio bucks just for signing up, and
that translates to well, the way you eat probably about
a month's worth of free food. Uh. And finally, what

(11:35):
is a myth? What's something people think it's true you
know to be false? Oh man, I forgot this part
of the thing. Um lefty lucy, righty tidy. Yeah. Not
always true, not always true. Sometimes the contractor just blows it.
In fact, in my apartment they got they put the
cold and the hot on the wrong side in the shower,

(11:56):
and I think they did it like just to screw
with me, and it's righty lucy yeah. Oh my. Well. Also,
it's not that it's like a world gone mad. We
need a We need a rhyme that is like clockwise
verse counterclockwise, because it's not it's not really obvious, like
I always have to like think about it and be like, well,

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they mean the top is going in that direction, not
because that that's why we have clockwise verse counter clockwise
is because we don't. We haven't decided like one means
right and the other means left. So they come up
with a better topic and the bottom goes left. It's
the right way. It's always going to turn that way now.

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But I'm just saying the bottom part is going left. Though.
On a circular thing, it's circle. I mean, it's circle
miles right. I just don't think you can. I don't
think you can say a perfect circle that is turning
in place is going to the right or left. It's
going clockwise or count or clockwise. Okay, yeah, so funk

(13:03):
off man, how could it? But if you fixed a
point on the outside of a circle, you would very
much be able to tell if it's going you're just
saying in relationship, because we don't have a vertical line
that actually differentiates between right and left. Okay, Well, I
guess I never thought so deeply about it. I just
twist the fucking thing. Yeah, But I like how it

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sort of fill us out of like, how could we know? Though?
Is there like a calculus term for this that we're
just too dumb to know? Probably almost definitely there is
math math gang, Let us know how dumb we sound
right now? Right? I think I might be the only
one who sounds dumb there. I think everyone's like, what
are you talking about? Vince is gob smacked at the moment. Yeah,
I mean I started around like discussion, I blame myself. Wait,

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but then that I'm guessing for this thing to hold
true that if it's lefty tidy, that would mean it's
completely inverted, like even the way the installed backwards or something. Yeah,
I don't, I don't know. What do we scientists? You know? No, No,
we're not we're not. Hey, I just got word in
we're not confirmed from the boom confirmed. Okay, we are

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not fucking scientists. Uh, speaking of scientists, let's talk about
this laugh track research, this hot new laugh track research,
hot off the scientific presses, the scientific community is a
buzzing about it. I find this hard to believe, Miles.
Why don't you tell it? Tell the people what you're
talking about? Well, okay. Researchers in London have found that

(14:34):
laugh tracks can help enhance the funniness of a joke
when testing people, even the worst kind of sucking dad jokes. No,
how old were these people? I think they were like
a pretty broad spectrum of ages, so it wasn't like
a bunch of like, you know, actual dads or like
these jokes are killing um. But let me just give

(14:55):
you an example. They had like jokes that were from
like TV or whatever, And then they even have the
these other ones that were like this. Why couldn't the
toilet paper across the road? Why because it got stuck
in a crack. Why can't you give Elsa? Why can't
you give Elsa a balloon? Elsa from Frozen? Because she
will let it go? Why was the tomato alread because

(15:17):
it saw the salad dressing? What's what's around and sounds
like a trumpet? That was funny. Crumpet? What do you
call an apple that farts? What's round and sounds like
a trumpet? A crumpet? Why is that because the crumpet
is round? The word sounds like trumpet? I didn't even
know a crumpet was Oh, yes, you absolutely must go

(15:37):
to London. What do you call a fish with no eyes? Hell? Fuck? Yeah,
I would have found that way funny left track? Well,
so anyway, when they did, is they so they had
they really missed? You missed you were going to skip
the best one? Okay? What do you call an apple
that farts? A fruity tutti? Wow, that's funny. That might

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be the joke I've ever heard, because no part Yeah,
I mean, why why would I need to call it something.
What do you call an apple that farts? Call the
fucking FBI. And then I think this apple just farted
and it's having a joke. Do you call it psychosis? Yeah?
So they had a comedian record these jokes, and they

(16:22):
basically used two kinds of laughter, like with the punchlines
like legit staged canned laughter and then real spontaneous laughter
that they were recorded, and like they rated just one
version of the joke, so like one person would only
maybe hear the can laughter version of the spontaneous version.
But they both thought things were funny, uh like with
any kind of laughter, but the spontaneous one even like

(16:45):
took it further slightly. Was the comedian James Cordon. I
imagine it was James Cordon that did the record because
he's everywhere. Now, well, they don't like it. They don't
like James, And I'm gonna do some jokes for you.
A fruity tut well well well well ITCHI what a
what a laugh? But yeah, I mean I think this

(17:07):
makes it's it's like anything like you just if if
you're in a round a like what what what what's
the word I'm looking for? It's almost like peer pressure, right,
because like you're in an audience like wha ship, that's okay,
I'm taking that cue ha ha yes fruit. Indeed, I
wonder house you can apply this to other things. I
was just gonna say, like, I think this, this is
this is very intuitive to me because if you ever

(17:31):
try to like practice a stand up set before your set,
it sounds like the at least funny thing in the
world because there's no one there to laugh at it
and the timing is all messed up. And then in
front of audience you're like, okay, oh thank god, like yeah,
it gets it gets funnier because the energy is changed
and it doesn't seem as sad. I wonder are there
ever any stand ups who have like who bring plants

(17:54):
in the audience to be like all right, and then
that will serve as their canned laughter and the North
Korean thing where they like pipe in extra applause. Yeah yeah, yeah,
I mean it's kind of happened. If you're a really
smart comedian, you would just be like, funk that I'm
using science. I'll hire seven people to sit throughout the
audience laugh their asses off. People think got killed or

(18:14):
you have just like a button on your elbow that
you could, yeah, press it really discreetly. The way you
were doing that was not like I don't know why
I made it, Like that's the punchline. Okay, Vince Vancini,
everyone give it up. There's that Chelsea pretty special one
of the greats where she has plants in the audience.
But that's like part of the bit. It's pretty good,

(18:35):
but it is there like a clown at one point.
Um the I think it was the Brooklyn Nets actually
had like piped in uh crowd sounds really yeah, because
like in that first couple of seasons when people are
like do I like this? No, like recently they just

(18:56):
like over the p a yeah, no, no, not over
the po It was like it was they did a
good job of it. It was hiding it. Right wait,
how do you how would you do that just over
the loudspeakers? Right? Yeah, imagine yeah, probably over the leads,
That's what I meant. But wait, what did I say? No,
you did say you said over the speakers. But I
guess I was picturing like somebody over the A V

(19:18):
system just hearing like but I think they did a
good job of like using the sound system to make
people pretend that others were actually enthusiastic about the team. Yeah,
well look they they won't have trouble in about a year.
It was the new Jersey Nets and it was just
the other day, Uh, Kendall Gill was still playing. Yeah. Um,

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but I mean this also makes sense that I feel like,
I feel like it's surprising to me that Candle After
would improve people's to find Maybe if it's like a
corny joke, you would be like that that adds something
to it. Well, I on myself, even when I go
to comedy shows and just being in an audience, it

(20:04):
helps you feel a little like at home by myself,
I will look dead pan into a screen and be like, yeah,
that was okay, and we would never know that I
enjoyed it. Like laughing is part of the social contract exactly,
and I think that's really what it's working on, is
like sort of recreating that environment. It's like, yeah, we're
here to laugh. When there's a laughing, it's a good time.
I want them to test this where they replace the

(20:25):
can laughter with reggae horns, Like where does that make?
I think that would make things at least funnier. Yeah,
depends on you, or like really heavy ship, like a
really heavy speech with dance hall air horns, I think
help lighten the mood, right. I think that in itself
is actually even more powerful because you've taken something so

(20:45):
dark and given it a little bit of like a eulogy,
and then you just like, yeah, if the guy given
the eulogy is also just the sound cubes, or like
that one speech where Saddam Hussein had like the other
people in government and like during and he was like
reading off which ones were like guilty of crimes and
they were like getting led out to be executed during

(21:07):
the speech, and he was just like and so and so,
babyby right, just drop the bomb here, I guess, um, Yeah,
that's kind of our equivalent, is the bomb drop is? Yes? Yes?
Uh well, all right on that note, we're gonna go

(21:28):
to a quick break. We'll be right back. And we're
back and uh we are, Now what what is it today?
The mother is talking right as you hear this, he's

(21:49):
probably depending on all kinds of fucking t right, depending
when you listen to it, Yeah, depending when you listened
to it. But yeah, I mean as of Wednesday morning,
he's in front of the House and the House Intelligence,
Intel and Judiciary committees about his report. But prior to
this on Monday, Uh, there's a leaked letter that Mueller

(22:12):
got from the d o J that shows you just
how relaxed the Department of Justice is about all of this, um,
because there be I mean, let's just read some excerpts
of this and you tell me how chill this is. Uh.
First of all, any testimony must remain within the boundaries
of your public report because matters within the scope of
your investigation were covered by Executive Bramlage, including information protected

(22:35):
by law enforcement, deliberative process, attorney work product, and presidential
communications privileges. Yeah, it's all very conversational, Yeah, very much.
I think that just read just up. And also the
very top was sort of like, uh, you know, like
you don't have to testify if you don't want to,
and like obviously we wouldn't you know, we wouldn't have
prosecutors testify. Please don't testify. You know you don't have testified.

(22:57):
Do you really want to? I mean, really do you
want to? Do you really want to go through all this?
Like it was very clear that they just want to.
I mean, you know, put tape over his mouth. Essentially, Um,
they go on basically just saying like please also don't
elaborate on shit either, uh quote. These privileges would include
discussions about a discussion about investigative steps or decisions made

(23:18):
during your investigation, not otherwise described in the public version
of your report. Okay, so don't let don't like tell
them like how you came to these conclusions in your
mind about stuff. Clearly he's not going to give up
investigative processes and things like that. He used to run
the FBI and he's a career d o J person,
So like, I don't think that, I think that doesn't

(23:38):
really need to be something they need to worry about.
It's this next part that is very funny. It is
the it is the department's long standing policy not to
discuss the conduct of uncharged third parties. Established Department policy
also precludes any comment on the facts developed, and legal
conclusions by the Special Counsel's Office with respect to uncharged
individuals other than in for nation, contained within the portions

(24:01):
of your report that I've already been made public charge.
Who is that referring to? Oh, let's see, so who
is that? What are they allowing him to like, what
is he allowed to say? If he's not allowed to
discuss the conduct of Trump. Oh, that's who's talking about,

(24:24):
probably the pea, that's probably him in charge. Third parties,
they really wanted to lean into that. I mean, he
doesn't have to do ship because he doesn't work for
the d o J anymore. So this is all just
like Jerry Nadler was like, Okay, he doesn't have to
listen to a fucking thing that you just said. But
you know, Mueller, even prior to this letter, had himself
said I'm only interested in speaking about what the report

(24:45):
actually says, which I think could have some kind of
effect because no one's heard him say like the real
ship out loud um And like Neil Katti in the
New York Times was basically like they just needed him
to commit to three questions on wax for did your
report find there was no collusion? Second? Did your report
find there was no obstruction? Third? Did your report give

(25:07):
the president complete and total exoneration? Yeah? And that's about it.
That that should cover it. This feels like there's a
kid in the school who's just like going around like
melvit ing people and like knocking people in the mud.
But then like the only way to punish him is
like the nerds in class have to read through the
school handbook and find like the specific like the specific

(25:30):
clauses that he violated violated, and like read them all
to the letter of the law, and it's like no, no,
like we all saw it. We don't really need this. Well,
I guess that's the thing is now for those who
don't believe what they see or don't read anything that
has facts in it, like hopefully you can get these
little clips of him, of Robert Mueller just like two
seconds being like my conclude reported that there there was

(25:54):
obstruction or there uh, this does not exonerate the president. Yeah,
I don't know. I just feel like we're trying to
catch him on like the most procedural like hard to
prove stuff, when he's like openly flaunting so many other
parts of the Constitution. I mean, like the idea like
if you ask, oh, did he collude, and it's like, oh, man,

(26:15):
we gotta go through a thousand pages of documents and
try to figure out how that all works, as opposed
to is he like openly profiting off of the presidency,
like every day and everybody's like, oh, yeah, well I
think it's funny because for some reason, even though all
that news is out, everyone's still like, right, right, okay,
but what about what about Mueller? Right? For whatever reason,

(26:35):
I think because that's like the sexier ship. This is
like him just being totally corrupt and being like yeah, yeah,
Trump Tower open for business to whatever. Yeah, this one
involves like a ten hour like true crime documentary where
the other stuff is like oh yeah, uh like yeah,
right right crimes. What about like that that ship that
I was tuning in for for like eighteen months? Right,

(26:56):
no one about that? How does that? How does that
show end? Yeah? Uh? Now that we are kind of
recording something that's going to be released after we can
be definitively proven wrong. Uh. Do you feel like there's
gonna be any sort of payoff here? I feel like no.
I feel like it's going to be a disappointment, like aggressively.
So yeah, I've just kind of kept ourselves from getting

(27:20):
too excited about anything going on with Mother and the
effect that will have. So the most I can be
excited for is that maybe there's a good clip that
can go around on Facebook for elderly people to see
Moller destroys Trump savage fucking moments from the testimony save
Mueller moms. I mean when it came out, wasn't the

(27:43):
whole thing? He said, like it doesn't matter what I say,
like the whole it's Congress's job to provide the oversight,
and like it's Congress's job to uh, you know, he says,
I had oversighted with the like provide checks and balances,
and if they don't have the will to do that,
then like nothing right. The thing I'm worried about is
like a lot of Congress people like should we should

(28:03):
he be impeached or whatever? And even in his report
he doesn't really use that word. He's like external processes
outside of the traditional criminal justice system. It's like his
euphemism for it. So I'm sure it's gonna be a
lot of Democrats like Beg being so thirsty for him
to say, like the ship they need him to um
and maybe it'll go well, maybe it won't. But at
the very end, I think it's just hopefully you can

(28:25):
get some kind of sound bite with him, his face,
his mouth moving, That isn't oh Trump, no obstruction, no collusion,
v chill VI chill about your day. That's it. And
then and then even then it'll be like whatever, because
we're still like, you know, apprehending people and be like
show us your papers or you go to prison forever.
So there's a lot to catch up with. There's a

(28:46):
lot to keep up with. I feel like it'll be
too frustrating to watch in real time because it'll be
a lot of them trying pushing for him to say something,
in him being very like pedantic about right, and who
would an uncharted third party b um someone who is
not charged and in this context that would be somebody

(29:09):
in the government. Look, I'm not gonna say it. Okay,
I'm sorry. Look I'm not going to say it. That's
his voice a little bit higher. No, it's wasn't. Wasn't
his voice super old? Yeah? It was. At least we'll
get our we'll dial in our muller. Uh. Let's talk

(29:29):
about Joseph Biden speaking of the elderly. Uh. Yeah. It
seems like he has responded to just getting mopped, getting
the floor mopped with him in the first debate by
kind of adjusting some of his policy positions so that
he's not as open to criticism about being extremely conservative,

(29:52):
because this next debate sees him on stage with a
lot of people of color that are running for like
are also going for the non a nation, and based
on how that went down, just with Kamala coming at
him with the busting stuff and other positions he's taken,
everyone's like, um, I'm a feeling they're going to talk
a lot about the crime bill now that Biden was like, oh,

(30:14):
the Biden Bill, I think, which you even called it
back in ninety four. So to you know, keep himself protected,
he's got a new plan, which you know, I guess,
uh somewhat decent criminal justice reform plan, which includes end
to mandatory minimum sentences okay, the use of private prisons okay,
and all incarceration for drug use alone, so they would

(30:34):
send people to like drug court and try like rehabilitation
before incarceration and cash bail. Moratorium on placing juveniles and
adult prisons. Yeah, well moratorium. Yeah, we'll have to study
this further, but I think they're what they're really trying
to do is like, yeah, maybe we'll and we'll do
studies to see if like incarceration is the best thing.
Because before I was like, yeah, lock them all up there,

(30:54):
all super predators. Joe Biden would be a favorite of
lots of studies. I think I don't think he has
actually any the principles or beliefs. I think all of
his policy positions are just like someone tuning a radio
dial just to find that like perfect sweet spot of
like public opinion that can keep him, you know, in
a job. But I really think there's any um driving

(31:15):
principles behind what he's doing. No, I think the driving
principles are avoiding a smoke show on stage where they
press him for everything, basically what he'll do now he's like, oh, yeah,
I know, I know that was bad, but now look
at what I just did. So obviously that negates everything
I used to believe. So find a new angle karmala.

(31:37):
I feel like every yeah, basically, so let's just talk
about who's on what night? So the first night July
has Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Pete boudhag Edge. Uh, those
are kind of the main ones in that top tiers. Um, well,
hold on, don't just erase Marian Williamson. Marian Williamson, belief
will be there, bett oh will be air on that night,

(32:01):
and then night to July thirty one, you've got Biden, Kamala,
Harris Corey Booker, Julian Castro, which you know, Kamala and
Castro were like the two that kind of came after
people a little bit. Double Lascio also, but he was
kind of less effective. Lasco I think has even had

(32:24):
to take on the Biden thing. Yeah, it was like, yeah,
I don't know, I I don't think those rules are I
don't think thoselaws are good at all for me. Can
I get a percentage? Yeah, well we'll see. I mean
I think you know, this is all very much what
Joe Biden does, or career politicians do. They know when
a position they've taken is causing a little too much static,
adjust a little bit, and do it in time, so
then you can just be like, point to that quote

(32:46):
unquote plan you have as a deflector shield. That was
I mean, that's his entire career. Like the Crime Bill
was just him like tuning in like public opinion at
that time, right because he seems like people want tougher
on crimes. That's what I'm gonna be. Yeah, and then
he was like, well, you know, actually back then, like
people were saying it wasn't tough enough. So it was
like that because but those people were like right wing

(33:09):
people from Alabama. Well yeah, And I think also when
you look at how much Joe Biden really needs the
black vote, I think getting fucking worked. Uh, and that
last debate has shown him like, Okay, the my shitty
positions in the past are gonna kind of run antithetical
to the interests of black voters that I need. So
let me do this to show a little bit of

(33:30):
change of heart. And not to mention that this plan announcement,
I mean it coincides perfectly with his Hey, black voters,
it's me Obama's Grandpa tour that he's going on, because
he's going to fucking two events this week on racial justice.
One is UH with the double A CP in Detroit,
Super Si. Yeah, and then the Conference of National UH,

(33:51):
the Conference of the National Urban League in Indianapolis on Thursday.
So if both if de Blasio gets a spot in
the debate, why doesn't Howard Schultz get on the on
the bay Like they're both equally like zero percent popularity level, right, Yeah,
I think Schultz has like suspended his campaign and once
he's just saw that like Biden was running, He's like,
all right, cool. Wasn't he an independent also? Or he

(34:12):
was running as an independent? Or was he running as
a Democrat? He was No, He's going to run as
a Democrat. I think I think he was waiting to
see if Biden was going to jump in. Got it? Okay,
He's like, oh, Biden's in, all right, damn. I was
going to be that guy with lukewarm takes on everything. Uh.
So the mega bomber, we we know a little bit

(34:34):
more about where he was coming from. Yeah, beyond what
was glued to the outside of his van, well, it
was mostly I think we could have told just based
on what was on the outside of his fan He
loved youth, American youth soccer and Trump, and he did
Obama and lifted. Yeah, I loved lifting. Yeah. I feel

(34:55):
like every hardcore Trump guy is uh sue br into
physical fitness for some reason, Like they're they're all like
aspiring uh supplement salesman. I don't know how that came
to be. Well, because he's the embodiment of physical fitness. Yeah, exactly,
the picture of health. Well, so the we're getting more details, right,

(35:16):
I think the biggest thing is his His attorney's like
submitted like a thirty nine page sentencing memorandum because they're
trying to get his you know, his prison sentence like
knocked down around ten years because he was about to
go in this bombing spree. And they're sort of saying, like, look,
this guy was struggling with mental illness. Also Trump and
like Fox News fucked his brain up, um, which is defense. Uh,

(35:38):
look this guy sucks at building bombs. You guys, he's
really not very good at it. You don't worry about it. Look,
he was, he was going through a lot. So some
of the things they point to was that he was
a steroid adult pariah relying on self help audio books
and strip mall fortune tellers to a political radical drip
mall fortune tellers, Yeah, who saw it as a has

(35:59):
his mission to protect Trump and the country by attacking
prominent liberals um. In a section titled Mr Saak's political radicalization,
they showed how as he was suffering from mental illness
working as a part time pizza delivery man and part
time strip club dj, found this is not even joking,
found solace and self help books on tape, specifically ones

(36:19):
that were from Mr Trump sort of showed him everything
he wanted to be, like a self made successful quote playboy.
It's just sad that he couldn't even afford the boutique malls,
the fortune tellers. You know, he had to go to
a strip mall to get his fortune told fortune. I
feel like you have to be in a strip mall,
or like an old house, just like somehow like when

(36:41):
a certain commercial area was a residence residential neighborhood, but
that one house remains and it has a neon psychic
or is that just l a no, I I think
that exists elsewhere. Psychics. I feel like psychics only work
out of their house. Yeah, it's gonna be like an
old Victorian mansion. It's the only thing on the block
with sign gotten gentrified. Right, thank you, thank you psychics

(37:04):
for not making this neighborhood totally fucked up. Um So,
then what they said was basically with that sort of
swirling around him. Then he lost his home. In two
thousand and eight, he started spiraling even more, and he
had very little political knowledge and wasn't able to make
sense of real news and conspiracy theories. And that's when
he got involved with the Trump campaign as a volunteer
handing out flyers covering his van and stickers, and joined

(37:27):
quote hundreds of right wing Facebook groups which promoted quote
the idea that Trump's critics were dangerous, unpatriotic, and evil,
as well as quote provocative language to depict Democrats as murderous, terroristic,
and violent. Fox News further these arguments. The memo ads,
So you know, they're really this is a thing. I
feel like we're gonna start seeing more as more people

(37:49):
are I guess you become intoxicated with the violent rhetoric
that comes out of Trump and Fox News. Um, but
it's interesting to like really just point that, like they're like, look, well,
the combination of his cognitive deficiencies, steroid induced delusional thinking,
political naivete, and his isolation resulted in Mr Saak being
unable to critically evaluate these claims. Yeah. I mean, I

(38:11):
think it's like Trump is like a grifter charlatan, and
so like for people that like him, it doesn't really
matter that he's a He's like an aspirational grifter charlatan.
It's not like, oh, what he says it's not true.
It's more just like, oh, I could be that guy.
That goes on the TV and is you know that
you you can be that sort of demo. He's like, um,

(38:33):
he's like an everyman's demagogue. He's like what influencers are
to like gen Z kids, Like what's that done to
gen Z's perception of what work is? Where it's like,
I want to be an influencer. Like that would be
so tired if I was an influencer. And if you're
like a boomer white man like dealing with your waning
power and privilege, you then look at Trump and like
that's my I want to be a Trump type dude.

(38:55):
WI guessed to be fucking toxic and people cheer and
that's life. His version of what's read is totally defined
by the eighties, right yeah. Video of him partying with
Epstein Epstein where he's like dancing and like doing the
like lower lip bite thing is just the most amazing. Uh,

(39:19):
I mean does Epstein? Is he like Trump where he
doesn't drink? Like That's the crazy thing to think about
is seeing Trump at all these like you know, wild
parties and then thinking about the fact that he's a
teetotaler also, right yeah, could you yeah, like amongst all
that fucking deprave it. He just like on toes stuff right, yeah,

(39:39):
wait you're sober, Yeah, just crush up pet pills. And
I snowed him in the back. Everybody else there's like,
I couldn't be here without like pilo of cocaine. But
that guy's just over in the corner the thing. Yeah,
just with this going on, they say. Attorneys really underlyined,
saying that he heard it from the President of the
United States, a man with whom he felt and had

(40:00):
a deep personal connection. He read it on almost every
website he visited. He saw it on Fox News, which
he watched at the start and end of his day,
and it really and it was reinforced to him on
social media, like this environment, this isn't gonna be a
one off, especially when you have more ship coming out
all the time, of people being like illhan Omar's al

(40:20):
Qaeda and all this other fucking nonsense. It's yeah, I mean,
mentally ill people are you know, affected by what our
culture is giving them, you know, especially sensitive to it.
I mean there was like around the time that the
Truman Show came out, a lot of a new mental

(40:42):
illness started happening where people would like be committed thinking
that they were on a show like The Truman Show,
and so it's like the same, like reality TV and
that sort of thing all manifested itself in like a
similar sort of alternate reality, like you're gonna be you're
gonna see those things refracted back to you and right,

(41:05):
kind of fucked up ways. And this makes sense, like
he is a perfect embodiment of just all the toxic
ship that is swirling around on Facebook, on Fox News, right,
and you find someone who has sort of that mix
of like has an ax to grind, is susceptible to
this kind of messaging and is struggling with mental illness.
And yeah, you get a van covered and stickers sending bombs.

(41:27):
It's funny the Truman Show thing. As a kid before
even before the Truman Show, I had the idea for
the Truman Show because I actually believed I was the
star of my own movie when I was like six
or something, which is a childish thing to think because
you're like, oh, yeah, and I'm the main character of
my experience because I don't know how to make sense
of anything that's happening to um. And then I think

(41:48):
it was around like thirteen when I didn't get our
pit hair yet. I was like, this is this show
is fucked up. No way they would about wearing a
tank tok. I think that's what we have instead of
like religion in some ways is like the past, like
decades or past centuries had like the idea that God

(42:10):
was like always watching them, and like as kids, we
had the idea that like there was like some invisible
reality show constantly watching us. Yeah, it was weird. I
don't even think of my ship as a reality show
because my Delusions predated reality TV. Yeah. That was really
going to be the first and narrative weird Miles show. Yeah,
and I was like, yeah, I'll win all my hockey

(42:31):
games because I'm the main character. Did I have a
laugh track though? No, it was a very serious drama. Yeah,
please please respect my story evens there's no sitcom. And
uh also, we just wanted to talk about Wilbur all
my quick uh so uh he he self reports that

(42:53):
he's working twelve hour days. Uh have you seen eighty
one working twelve hour day days? But if you ask
the actual employees at the commerce department, they say that
he's seen as kind of irrelevant. The morale is very
low in the Commerce department. Uh, and there's not a

(43:14):
lot of confidence in him. Uh. He's not respected in
the building. And one source told a reporter that not
only has Wilburt Ross fallen asleep at every meeting he's
been in, but that he rules and uses his tie
to clean it up. So and it's become very apparent

(43:34):
that Wilbur Ross cannot stay awake. Like there are plenty
of photos or like clips of him, like you know,
like when you watch people tight rope block that sleepline
and like and you're like, oh, yeah, there's so many
clips as him doing that. And if you're not familiar
about Wilbur Rozz, he's that old like literally the most
goblin e dude in the cabinet. I use the term

(43:55):
goblin a lot. Rudy Giuliani's jin goblin. There's legal sneak Gold,
Jeff Sessions. But Wilbur Ross, Yes, he is an old,
dried up baby, and he the thing that they're saying
apparently in commished department because he sleeps so much, they've
had to alter the whole fucking schedule of meetings quote

(44:17):
because he tends to fall asleep in meetings. They try
not to put him in a position where that could happen,
So they're very careful and conscious about how they schedule
certain meetings. There's a small window where he's able to
focus and pay attention and not fall asleep. I mean,
it's like the perfect poetic justice for one of these
guys that brags about how many hours a day they were,

(44:37):
Why don't you just take a nap, stupid, You're not
getting anything done sleeping. For ten of them, they work
a two hour day. And yeah, I mean, I think
when with the anecdote about the sleeping thing, there was
like around that time, people were already saying Trump wasn't
a big fan of him because like he liked his
business acumen or his ability to be a predatory investor,

(44:58):
but like when it came to how he was outwardly,
he's like Kinna, He's it's kind of weird. Trump is
a complete narcissist who is totally informed, Like his opinions
of other people are informed by the media and by
you know, he's not gonna he's not gonna respect somebody
who like Fox News or even like the mainstream media

(45:19):
doesn't respect He's just he's totally influenced, but also they
have like a different persona. You know, Trump is like
snorting adderall and then this guy's falling asleep out right.
He's like, oh, I don't know me up, sure, you're
on a TV interview. Oh okay, by less soda cans

(45:41):
your pop. You're drinking too much. The thing though, that
everyone's saying now is he might be next on the
chopping block because after that Census citizenship question fuck up fiasco,
they're like the murmurs, the grumblings and mumblings around six
hundred or that. Maybe yuh look at the ax, but
he'll be the next to go. It's been nice playing

(46:04):
with you, Wilbur. Yeah, he seems how long has he
been there? Has he been there from the start for
a while? I who knows? It's a revolving door, man.
I I don't like the trend of the original people
who Trump put into office because he didn't have a
transition team and was just like flying by the seat

(46:26):
of his pants being replaced now by like more efficient people,
like with William Barr replacing Sessions, and like then he
becomes more dangerous. So yeah, I'm hand napness is the
only thing that's saving us at that point. Yeah, exactly.
So I'm happy with Wilbur Ross napping his way through
the next six years. What was the guy who had

(46:48):
the who had the patent for like the toilet for
guys with big penis and toilet? Yeah, what was that guy?
I feel like every Trump reply guy is just you know,
like a hair away from having an official government Matt Whittaker. Yeah,
like his whole thing was he like wrote about how
uh he wrote like an op ed about how you

(47:09):
can't charge the sitting president with crimes or something, and
then he got a job immediately, just like William Bart
did too. So that's how you become a g right
a thing about how Jeff Size is totally fucked that up?
How close How closely do we having to having a
Jacob wall and like a cabinet position of some kind.
I'm very close, probably, Yeah, at least joining the vape

(47:31):
room that is the internroom, the White House Press office.
What juice you guy, man, only I only smoked Tiger's blood. Dude.
All right, we're gonna take a quick break. We'll be
right back, and we're back, and briefly going off of

(47:57):
the thing about how toxic Facebook is Uh, it's worth
mentioning that a police officer in Louisiana was fired for
saying Alexandria Cassio Cortez deserved a round and not the
kind she used to serve, is how he put it.
So he said she should be shot, and somebody liked it.

(48:21):
And this is a person who carries a gun legally
and gets to shoot people legally. Uh, and he was
immediately fired. So that's yeah, the copy posted and the
cop who liked it, Yes, it seems like a good thing. Yeah, yeah,
well again, yeah, and it's just the mentality. It's like,
what she deserves to be shot for? What? Right? It's

(48:43):
just a cool thing to say to impress your right
wing buddies because it's funny because everyone's talking about it
like they're trying to make this place a socialist third
world country? Like what what does that even me? Like?
But I'm always here, Like what do you mean by that?
And don't just use Venezuela as your fucking weird straw
man that you point to. Right. But anyway, well, more
and more we're going to be seeing a trend in

(49:06):
our movies where they're kind of catering to China. I mean,
this is something that's been pointed out in blockbusters recently.
I think Transformers for was like a big example of it.
But somebody noticed in the Top Gun Maverick Top Gun
two trailer that his bomber jacket was identical to the

(49:27):
one from the eighties movie, except two of the flags
had been changed to remove the Japanese and Taiwanese flags.
Uh so yeah, and the movie is produced in a
partnership between China's ten Cent Pictures and Paramount Pictures. So well,

(49:50):
I mean, like what five six years back there was
the Red Dawn remake and in the script it was
that China uh invades the US, and then like in
post production they had to change it to North Korea
because they didn't want to find host So what did
they have to do like change the uniforms and pretty

(50:10):
much Yeah, oh my god, it's just funny, man, how
much fucking money is just the answer to all this ship.
It's not even like, yeah, we we agree with their take.
It's like a fuck man, money. So I guess we'll
just like don't offend these people and just allow them
to have their like revisionist version of industry. I mean,
I get the beef with Japan, but but I mean

(50:32):
the you know, Avengers Endgame and the latest Spider Man
movie are you know, breaking all sorts of box office
records because of China. Like they China is just there.
The market is growing and growing, and uh, you know,
as America's market stays the same or shrinks a little
bit because of all the other entertainment options that Americans have. Um,

(50:55):
I do enjoy that they don't get Star Wars at all.
Like They've had this whole campaign to try and like, uh,
you know, educate the Chinese audience on Star Wars, but
they're just like, yeah, we don't get it. We think
this sucks not for us. Why don't they just shoot guns?
Why why do they have so that glows stick that

(51:15):
guy's waving around forget it. You have a shot of
a guy shooting a gatling gun at a fucking planet,
then I don't care. Yeah, And I think lyon King
same deal is doing really well over there. Um, maybe
they just really like photo realistic lions. Yeah, I mean,
as they should. So I was. I feel like I'm
the only one who says this, but like I thought

(51:36):
it was really weird. They have these photo realistic lions,
but then they took like the lions balls and penises
out and not like you know, there was but like
when a lion sits down and you're looking at it
from the front, you expect it's dick to be there,
and it's just not. And it seems really weird that man.
Everything else, everything else is like perfectly realistic, except they're don't.

(52:00):
They're like Kendall lions. This is my whole question with
Jurassic Park is you know the penis and balls are
the those don't make it into fossils, right, because it's
just you know, soft tissue. So did they the dinosaurs
are growers, that's what Right? So did they make all
the dinosaurs in the park women to avoid having to

(52:24):
show you just like because the possession the position of
dinosaurs are such that it would be like imagining t
Rex with just a big, like very human dick. I
had some drawings that don't even imagine big circumcised human dick.

(52:45):
It knocked the fucking jeep over, right. Uh yeah, maybe
I don't know sure, but but so you're saying that
they specifically they specifically disincluded it, right, Yeah, even for
the sex scene. Yeah exactly. I'm sure how has like
some subversive digital artists not added all the genitals back

(53:05):
onto like those lion king frames. This is how that
scene should have looked, big floppy lion dick. And you
know there had to be a discussion, and I just
want to I want to know what that discussion was.
Like you think where it's Disney, where you already know,
like could do you think someone is into production? Me like, yeah, John,
for the animations and the animals are we are we
just taking the dicks out? Because I actually brought a

(53:28):
whole a couple of examples of how Simba's dick could look.
I mean, if you're animating a lion, and I assume
that they're like studying lots of lion footage to get
it just right. Like it's definitely like a creative choice
to be like, well, I'm not going to draw the
dick there. Yeah, well, I guess I think just I
think it seems like Disney policy where no one has
any kind of genital's only boobs, right, Yes, it's important

(53:52):
that the animators who are drawing the characters be made
horny by them. That's that's important, buddy. If I don't
want to funk the lion. That's all. Ain't gonna work
to the point that they accidentally draw dicks all over
the place because they're just like sexually sublimating all the

(54:13):
what what do you mean it's as sex about the
little Mermaid cover? Yeah, little Mermaid cover. The boner really snoped. Uh,
it's there, man, I know, but like, you know, if
they're being like that's a coincidence or it's like it's deathcock, right,
I mean, it's definitely a dick to me. Yeah, I mean,

(54:34):
but I'm saying, what's the intended artist? You know? My
so I had to write a script about this, and
I just a short. My supposition going in was that
it was drawn by an artist who just had a
really weird looking dick, and so they didn't they like,
had no idea that it looked like a dick. Dave

(54:56):
dicks don't look like that. Guys. What are you guys
talking about? Right? Wait? You dry yours real quick? Oh no,
oh no, I'm gonna call my mom. Uh speaking of
people with really weird dicks, Leonardo DiCaprio doesn't know. I
have no idea if he has a weird dick probably

(55:16):
Jack probably has a gorgeous dick. Leonardo dick Caprio, Hey, oh,
I mean that's I think that's my favorite joke that
anybody's made on our podcast to this point. Uh Anyway,
Nerds Dick Caprio Dick uh has is still forced to

(55:41):
answer questions about why Jack had to die at the
end of Titanic, Like, so he's going around doing press
for his upcoming you know, Artsy Quentin Tarantino movie, and
people are like, so, why didn't you just get on
the door with row like you could have fit. It

(56:01):
was obviously pivoting, like being like and great, what was
it like to work with Quentin Tarantino? Okay? And look,
I gotta ask, Like everyone's still harping on that to
the point that like he's really like pissed about it.
Like Brad Pitt was with him on during this interview
and was like, yeah, could you have squeezed in there?
You could have right, And Leonardo Kapro was like, no comment,

(56:24):
and he was like, did you mention it at the
time that Like Margot Robbie was like, yeah, did you
mention that at the time. To James Cameron, he was like, like,
I said, I have no comment. Oh, why couldn't the
boat just avoid the ice right exactly? Could have been
a chill film. I think that's a I think that's
on the boat point, to be honest, the whole like

(56:46):
he should have just gotten on the door because like
it might not have floated. Like, well, that's why there's
been this is such a hotly contested topic, like from
people who made fucking diagrams of how they both could
have fit their body's on the door, and people were like,
assuming their weight is this and this is the buoyancy
of this would like but what how do you assume that?

(57:07):
So MythBusters did an episode about the door where they
were like, the way he could have done it is
to reinforce its buoyancy with a life vest but that
requires him to swim like well it's like twenty degree water,
swim under the door and like put a life vest
on there. And this is a point James Cameron had

(57:29):
to make. He was like in response that you're talking
about the MythBusters thing, right, Oh you're talking MythBusters. Well
let me bust this for you. Yeah. Um, so I
I agree with James Cameron and on this and only this,
uh to quote Titanic. I mean, look, I think it's
just one of those things where people were so pissed
that he didn't have to die or something. But like, look,

(57:52):
that's why it's a fucking drama. Okay, it's fucking suspended
for a second to just be like, yeah, maybe he
fucking had he just died, Okay. Camerons like you guys
know I pilot submarines, right, Like, you're gonna ask me
about this. He's like, yeah, I thought about it. Oh
you want to talk water stuff. Let's talk water stuff.
I create a new fucking c tech. But you know,

(58:14):
I think I think more people are pissed about the
necklace being thrown away. I'm just mad about Rose committing adultery,
right wow, and talks about that. You don't go to
movies to not see lion Dick, and you don't go
to see acts of adultery. Yeah, I don't want to
go and watch a nice boat movie and then be
tempted by infidelity right by the fruit of another you know.

(58:37):
The I mean that was for me. I didn't care
as much about Jackdown was like great, whatever, like sure
that's what happens in movies or whatever. Listen, No, I
mean it's the perfect sense. You know, that guy would
be a shitty husbands like, oh, I'm such a lovable
rogue drawing pictures of people like yeah, what are your
what do you? What job are you gonna do with?
Definitely fun. At least three other women on the yah

(59:00):
during that dance sequence in Steerage with all the Irish dancing.
But you don't know is she blinked her eyes and
he was sixty nine. The lady, you think yours is
the only handprint on this car window when you fogg
it up, it just hands out and all the other
cars since serious just to have handprints all over so
much heat was coming off their genitals. They just fugged

(59:21):
the whole thing up. I mean, that guy was, he
was getting it in. There's there's no way he wasn't.
I also feel like feeling like if they got off, like, hey,
she still would have been with cal right Billy Zane,
like technically, because didn't she say like she was still
with him until he like, well she shoot her, shoot her? Yeah,

(59:41):
But she at the end she just pretends that she
died and starts a completely new Oh that's right, and
then she just heard tell of cow's uh like fate
where he like shot himself after the market crashed in
twenty nine or something. Yes, I believe that's correct. I
mean I would have liked if she ave Cal some
weird like steerage std from you know Jack, like next thing.

(01:00:05):
You know he's got like you know, lice and and
all the crabs and stuff from hanging out down there
with all those people. Yeah, I feel like, but then
if they Jack and Rose are together living a secret life,
are they mad stressed because he's like, yo, dude, like
I'm kind of paranoid because you're faked your own death.
You got that wild ass necklace that's worth a lot

(01:00:26):
of money, like I'm wanted like in France when I
was drawing all those French girls, which is a euphemism,
and also like can I tell you more stories about
me and Fabrizio? She was a chill dude. There's no
way that that necklace would have gone unsold, unpawned. If
if Jack had made it, he would have pawned that
ship quick. Oh right, he gets like a bad like

(01:00:48):
like heroin addiction. He would have had gambling debts for sure.
Yeah yeah, oh man, See that's what that's the universe.
You need to explore what happens if they get off
the boat. She says the necklace is Jack Dawson A
good dude, right. It's also kind of fucked up for
her husband because like she has grandkids and stuff, and
then she dies and goes to heaven and the at

(01:01:11):
the end of the movie and Jack is there. She
goes to heaven in the movie. Yeah, I mean she
dies and like arrives and it's the ballroom full of
Titanic passengers. Oh ship, that does happen. Yeah, that does
happen at the end. Oh wow. So but that means

(01:01:32):
that like her husband, kids, grandkids are all like, you know,
where is she? What's just supposed to be here and
she's just like off on the Titanic Homie don't know,
hadn't been getting it in in heaven at the whole time. Man. Oh,
she walks in on him in steerage, like I should

(01:01:53):
have sold that necklace and started a nonprofit. Uh. And
in stear when she walks in on him in steerage,
she's just sitting back in the car with noise canceling
headphones on. Vaping Dio actually has sex allegedly that should
be how Jack Fox then yes, and like in the
Heaven sequence he's got air pods in vaping hardcore and like,

(01:02:16):
just do your thing, girl, not air pods, bro noise
canceling headphones so that he can't he can just totally
uh zone out. That's right listening to Mt. Electric Field. Yes,
my friend was driving people to you know, he went
to Coachella and he was like watching the concert and

(01:02:36):
he looked over and he sees this like he was
sort of like this very attractive woman sort of caught
his eye and then he looked over and he's like,
why is she making out with that really gross, like fat,
just disheveled looking dude. And he's looking and he realized
it's Leonardo DiCaprio, And like at a certain point, apparently
like Leonardo DiCaprio like left and the girl was like

(01:02:58):
still like dancing, like waiting for him to come back.
And he's like, yeah, how is that. I was there
for like two hours and she was still in the
same spot. It was like waiting for le to come back,
and she probably would have dancing by herself there all day.
He went. Little did she know he went to Steerage
which Coachella is the Doo Lab. Yeah, I don't even
know what that is. Joke for the homies. I pretended

(01:03:21):
like I got it, but I didn't. Yeah, the real
plot hole. Like you said, our writer Jan was pointing
out that she really did not have to throw that,
Like how much did they say it was worth? The diamond?
It was like like the rarest diamond on earth basically
to that hundreds of millions of dollars, and she like
threw it out for romantic reasons like as opposed to

(01:03:42):
just like selling it and feeding a village for the
rest of time for kids are like I had to
take out student loans. Hell, yeah there is if you
actually search how much was the Heart of the Ocean worth? It?
Says the very famous jeweler Harry Winston, known for having
owned the Hope diamond, UH and many other diamonds, made
his own take on the Heart of the Ocean diamond

(01:04:03):
using a real blue diamond fifteen carrot. This piece is
worth ten times as much as the previous example valued
at twenty million, So I guess twenty times as much
as the previous which was ten million. As the previous example,
what does that does that mean the real hard look
Ship was worth a lot rose you could have done

(01:04:25):
something with it. It's gonna be hard to find defense.
It's like, yeah, we need someone who has two hundred
million dollars flow on a rock point, very good point. Huh. Well,
I don't know if I have a buyer for that. Look. Well, Vince,
it's been a pleasure having you as always. Where can
people find you? They can find me on up Rocks
or on either of my podcasts, the film Drunk Frodcast,

(01:04:47):
which is our comedy podcast, and Pod Yourself a Gun,
which is our Sopranos rewatching podcasts that we have a
very special guest coming on from when we record tomorrow. Yeah,
well ship, that's me. Yeah, fucking ready, dude. I love
the Sopranos and I haven't watched season one in a minute,
so it's gonna be It's gonna be like getting getting
back together with some old friends. It's better when it's

(01:05:09):
when you have some time in between. Yeah, because there's
a while when I only watched this, I would religiously
just watch Sopranos on loop and it like it lost
all meaning And I'm ready to ready to go back home. Uh,
is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Then? Oh crap,
Oh this is from Hillary Hillaray of Hope, Hillary with
one R, one L, underscore and underscore. I don't like

(01:05:32):
it when restaurant servers ask, so what are you guys
doing tonight? Because it makes me feel lame. This is
what we're doing, Kevin eating at Chili's is the event?
Uhles Miles where can people find? You? Find me on
Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. Tweet I like
from Rachel win Nitsky that hits keep coming out of

(01:05:53):
Rachel's account at Rachel win Nitsky w E n I
t s K fly. She said I'm third, which means
that everyone I think is my age is actually twenty two,
and everyone I think is at least ten years older
is actually twenty nine. It's true. Damn. That's fucking hit
it in the bull's eye. Uh tweet I enjoyed Charlene

(01:06:15):
de Guzman uh quote oh fuck me after the first
bar of yeah Yeah yeahs maps for the past fifteen years.
Uh swarm Bowie tweeted Tequila as a fun song but
celebrates the sin of substance abuse. That's why I like
to shout Taquito at the titular moment. It's a cool

(01:06:35):
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