Why Is Mel Gibson Back, The NRA: A Brief History 11.8.17

In episode 24, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Jon Gabrus to discuss Mel Gibson's return to Hollywood, the history of the NRA, the Paradise Papers, Taylor Swifts ACLU run-in, and LiAngelo Ball's shoplifting troubles in China.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season five, Episode three
of The Daily Esi Guys for November eight, two thousand seventeen.
My name is Jack O'Brien, a K. Potatoes O'Brien, and
I'm joined by my co host, Mr Miles Gray. Hello everyone,
I hope you had a great election Tuesday, because uh,
some ship went down, and we are thrilled to be

(00:20):
joined by the host of High and Mighty and one
of two people who I have googled halfway through his
first appearance on Comedy Bang Bang, Mr John Gabriel. What's up?
Thank you, guys. So this is the moment in which
I'm introduced. It was a pretty obvious I'm sorry, sorry, no,

(00:41):
not yet. Actually one second and then Jack do the
real intro. Thanks for having me, guys. I'm very excited
on this post election Tuesday. Yeah, I'm very I'm very
excited to have John Gabriel in the building because I
am a huge fan. I didn't want to tell you
that when you came in, I played a real okay,
I didn't want it, yeah, but all the sweating I

(01:02):
wanted to be attributed to something else. But yeah, it's
so dope to have you here. Man, oh yeah, yeah,
you and Carl Tart by the way, people who like
who then is this yeah Tarts mad funny yea and
constant sound speeding in here not there, because that's your speech.

(01:23):
So John, what is something that you have searched in
the last week that you believed to be revealing about
who you are as a human being? Okay? Uh? I
could not remember a certain rugby player's name because I
saw his picture on a Instagram and he was super

(01:44):
fucking jacked and he was huge, And I was like,
I searched, like huge jacked because and I knew he
was like a Pacific islander of something like huge jacked
Pacific islander rugby guy. And I was like, this is
insane search I didn't show up. I eventually was able
to find him. I'm currently like scrambling to search for
him now to back up this story because I forgot

(02:06):
what I was gonna say, that's just kind of what
you're into. Yeah, And it turns out I was like, okay, yeah,
that this is the dude. Um, he's fucking a huge dude,
like bigger than the Rock. I don't know if he's
bigger than the Rock, but he like, who is these names.
Don't you dare? Don't you get out of here with
that means maybe Sam Clovis. Oh yeah, Sam Clovis has

(02:29):
fucking got the traps like the rock does, which is
pretty fucking dope. Oh yep, here it is. His name
is Siona kellum a Phony. How did you forget that?
I know, let me see this. Look at the Look
at the arms on this dude. Oh my god, they
look like my fucking thighs. Your thighs are ripped. Thank

(02:55):
you for dirtier than I would imagine. Yeah. So if
you are into the al form, I say, google Sioni
kellumafony saying it sounds like I'm mocking. I feel like
I'm mocking his ethnicity, like that guy Bo diet And
I was like, yeah, whatever the bow Dietle is a
John Gabris character, but exactly sounds exactly like everyone in

(03:19):
my family. He's like, listen the Blasio. Let me fucking
talk here for a second. Al Right, here's the thing
about opposite side street talking. All right, well, what side
the street's supposed to be on? And I'm I supposed
to know which was the opposite. Yeah, he's been in
the he got in the news recently he was at
the debate and was like fucking hogging the time. I remember, yeah,
I think even like oh yeah, no, like wh only

(03:41):
got one percent of the vote yesterday in the mayoral election.
One of the great performances of all time in any debate,
right below the rent is too damn high. It's those
two fucking missed New York for those reasons. Yeah, how
do you We don't have that quite yet. Used to
be funny to have like a random person run for office,
now carries a totally different concus your country. The precursor

(04:07):
was at gubernatorial election here when Schwarzenegger came in and
everybody was writing and like Mary carry the porn star
was like running and I think we got past that,
but I think we're back. God, I wish Arnold was
born in America. We could suck it. He would be
a Republican, I would allow in the Oval office. I mean, yeah,
he's taking jerrymandering seriously, so you know he likes the environment.
Who gives a sh about this exactly? If he's like

(04:28):
a crazy woman who knows, Hey, he raised his maid's kid,
fucking like it's still part of his life. The kid
is a part of his life. He like posts about
him on Instagram. He does, so I have like a
new respect. He just owned his Like yeah, all right,
I cheated out my wife. I had a kid and
now the kids like twenty and he's like the kid
looks straight up like it's like he's actually and he's

(04:49):
got like Latino in him. So he's like even like
he's like this giant jacked square slightly more exotic. Arnold Schwarzenegger,
my friend who was in town last week, like goes
to a bunch of good golf courses and he knows
people who have like golfed with Arnold Schwarzenegger, and uh
he always every time he like meets someone newing his golfing,

(05:09):
he like sets up, has his uh like a cigar
in his mouth and as he's like ready to tee
off on the first tees like when was the last
time you had a blowjob? And the person's like, I
don't know, like six months, Like as he swings, he goes,
how did it taste? Like go to move like, oh man,

(05:32):
you see he still got it. Yeah, he's got like
the one liner strength of an uncle, you know what
I mean. Like it's so great. Yeah, it taste I mean,
what I'm saying is that you are the one who
was bo getting the blow job. John. What's what's something
you think is overrated? Oh there's a very strong muscle.

(06:01):
Oh what is something I think is overrated? Okay, I
mean is it hacked to say pumpkin spiced stuff? Sort
of like it's in my house big time because my
wife is very, very autumn oriented. So we have pumpkin
spice soap, and so she doesn't drink the pumpkin spice
lattes or the PSL's, but I don't. I don't think
they're They taste like candy to me. They don't taste

(06:22):
like coffee. And now I just sound like the old dude.
It's like, it ain't coffee. Alright, you putting fucking pumpkin
spice latte and alright, that ain't I'm like Dennis Leary,
stand up special. Just pete, pete, gimme whiskey. It's just
it's it tastes like pumpkin pie basically in a cup. Yeah,
it's so far from coffee. And it's like the fact
that we've convinced ourselves as a culture. It's like this

(06:44):
is appropriate to drink seven days a week for three months,
So you're grape against it that it's just really it's
like a nothing. It's it's just a flavor that people
a getting hyped off. Yeah, and it's so and like
and then Starbucks is like capitalizing off of it. I
guess that. I mean, why wouldn't you if you were
a business? Like literally everyone's capitalized and they have pumpkin
spice cheerios, they have and spice everything. Yeah, yeah, don't

(07:05):
feed that to your kids. Yeah, that reminds us we
need to do that. We need to sign that out
to one of our writers to look into like pumpkin
spice culture. Yeah, what's the worst? What's the weirdest thing
to have? Pumpkin spice? And also like where the whole
thing came from? Like is was there like some like
extract Like they were just like we've got a lot
of this pumpkin spice. Ship pretty there was like five

(07:28):
scientists in the laboratory. They dropped like an eye dropper
into a bunch and beak or whatever, and then all
of a sudden, like thousands of white women smashed outside
like ran like they're surrounded us. They're like there's like
fifty white fucking Volkswagen kids on the phone, is like, Boss,
this hasn't happened since Fabriz This hasn't happened since Kate Spade,

(07:49):
tiny backpacks, some in the somebody's in their thirties. What's
something you think is underrated? Um? Now this again? I
feel like this is I just finally got around and
watching this show, and I can't believe how few people
are talking about it. But I just started watching Baskets.
They I'm like five episodes into season one, I'm like

(08:14):
every time. I don't know that many people that watch it,
but anyone who does watch it says they love it.
And then I like why, I'm like, of course it's
gonna be decent. E Zach calf Nakis and I watched,
I'm like, this is funnier than most ship on television,
And why aren't people hyping into it exactly? Like why
like why aren't I hearing it? And also like Louie
Anderson one is probably my favorite part of that whole show,
so good, the Kirkland signature ship. I love how much

(08:40):
stuff they do that they don't address, Like that's like
my favorite type of comedy is where it's like huge
choices that are not spoken to you at all. Yeah, Like,
what's an example of one of the choices that they
don't address, Like the fact that Louie Anderson is playing
a woman, it's playing his mom, and they just like
it's never there's not even like like well, you know,
when I have to go to the band through me,

(09:01):
it's like you know, there's like no, yeah, that's come up.
The that Costco insurance salesman, like that Costco is like
such a global brand, is like so it's really funny
to me. And then the the hierarchy of how Rodeo
clowns work like like it's such a and I'm only
I'm a few episodes and so I'm very curious how
the rest of it goes. But like the guy who

(09:21):
is like all right, so you wash that paint off
and I'll see you at home, and he's like, I'm
a Juggalo. It's like it's the positive world in which
you juggalos, Like, I guess I should become a clown. Yeah,
have you seen it? Yeah? Yeah, I think I'm up
through the second season. Yeah, very curious he's starting. I
just yeah, everything Kirkland is my favorite, there's not if

(09:44):
it can be Kirkland is Kirkland. Yeah, the woman who
plays the insurance salesman. And I feel bad that I
don't know her name. She's so fantastic. She's so deadpan
and dry, like I've never sin his best friend. Yeah,
she's had a cast on her arm. Yeah, while in
the first part, like that's like I think anyone with
the cast. Of course, Zach Galfanaki's places like own twin

(10:06):
brother who's got Chip and Dale? They have two super
handsome by racial DJ twin brothers, Like I love. A
friend's name is Martha Kelly is the actress. Shout out
to Martha Kelly. Shout out to Martha Kelly. She's wildly
under it. And those DJ twins, they they run up
and have you seen him? You live, you live on
the West Side. They're all over like Beverly Hills, Brentwood,

(10:27):
jogging all the time. Yeah, that's how you get cast.
That's actually you know, that was their mentality. But they're like,
we're both twins, were six ft three, were handsome. Let's
get out there, Let's get out there and just jog
with our shirts off. At the very least will be
a meme. Yeah, so ship, dude, is that what I need?
Call you t A. I'll be jogging all right before

(10:48):
we get into the stories. Uh just stayed our purpose.
Up top, the Daily Zy guys were trying to take
a sample of the ideas out there changing in the world,
whether we're looking or not. We talked about politics, the president, news.
We also talk about movies and supermarket tabloid's. Uh, just
all all the dumb ship that's bat boy found they

(11:08):
we'll tackle it exactly. Um So, but up top, we've
been asking our guests to debunk something that they know
to be like a movie myth or a pop culture
myth based on their background. And we uh know that
you are kind of an athlete, John, kind of like

(11:28):
I would say, I'm an ex athlete, but you like
played rugby. Run down your run down your credit sports?
What do you play? Would you play? In high school?
I play I played in football and I was captain
the swim team, and then in college I played rugby.
And then after college I played rugby for like a
few years in New York City, and then I played
like once a year for fucking like a travel team

(11:49):
sort of bachelor party YESK type thing. N Yeah. Um, well,
so I could bust some jock myths for you guys. Um,
Jock's get a bad rap, Jock's got a bad rapping
movies because they they're always played as bullies, as a
group of bullies, but often the jocks like, we're bullying
each other. We have people we hate on the team.
We don't need to like find nerds to bullies, Like

(12:11):
we're like, there's a dude who's on the team who
you hate exactly, like you don't have to reach. And
I think that's the thing that's like, uh, there's that myth.
And then there's a myth that jocks are dumb obviously,
and it's only because the most vocal ones usually are.
But the most vocal kid in your class is usually
dumb too. But there's a lot of jocks who are
like believe it or not. And this is like I

(12:33):
think nerd propaganda. Believe it or not. There are people
who are both physically and mentally capable of right, and
I think nerds are like, well, if they're physically capable,
we should brand them as dumb and then we're But
then you also know, like losers who don't play sports.
You also know dumb versions of those people. There are
people who also can't do right exactly exactly. They're like, oh, yeah,

(12:55):
these fucking jocks. But I'm not a nerd. I'm I'm
failing in school, I hate myself, and I have no
friends or whatever. I think I do assume automatically assume
that nerds are smart. That's definitely not always the case.
I think if you're if you're not smart and you're
a nerd, I think you're just called the loser. That's terrible,
Like I have to use like the brands of the
late nineties, but I think that's makes you a loser. Well,

(13:18):
you need something to probably, you know, hang your hat on.
And if you're a nerd, like, come on, come with
the intelligence, Come with your intellect. Don't just hate on ship. Yeah.
I think that's when you start smoking cigarettes. When you're like,
I'm not going to do sports or school. It's like,
what can I find partying? Jug um? All right, that's
that's great. I love that. By the way, only in
the podcasting world am I the opinion of jocks. You're

(13:42):
the closest thing we can get to attack. Come on,
you have played a sport correct, I mean about hockey,
I guess, but I'll believe that a black and eese
guy was playing hockey eighties and nineties. So yeah, that
you you follow under no preconcert that's even like what
the are you? Is? That you don't exist? Yea? Well

(14:02):
that was like I grew up. My my best friend
growing up who lived across the street from me, was
black and his mom was a doctor and his dad
was an engineer at Grumman, and I was just like,
that's that. That was my black stereotype in here. And
I was like, wow, I was way off that stereotype.
What's up man? You want to look at some schematics?

(14:26):
All right, Speaking of stereotypes, let's talk about mel Gibson. Y'all, um,
he's in a new Christmas movie. Well, he's not going
to be in a new Hank movie exactly Kwanza, to
be honest or anything. He's in Daddy's Home to um.
So the whatever today's date is from his previous scandal

(14:50):
is apparently the expiration date for uh, you know, using
the N word and saying Jews start all the words
in the world, that that's a only the expiration date
for like how long we give a shit about that. Yeah,
you have to be able to figure out, like calculate
a time before all your shitty deeds somehow get pushed
to the back of like the social awareness and consciousness,

(15:11):
and then you can kind of like sneak back in there,
like Okay, I guess we're letting we're letting you do this. Yeah,
And I mean this kind of ties into stuff we've
been talking about recently because apparently the criminal lawyer who
sort of turned the tide for Mel Gibson uh and
kind of helped him through his period of being you

(15:32):
know ignored or you know, hated by Hollywood for his
weird rants has now signed on to Harvey Weinstein's new
legal team. So, uh, you know this system is getting
ready to uh read itself back into a high gear
to try and rehabilitate Harvey Weinstein. Apparently, Um, that's a

(15:55):
tough one. Yeah, I mean I would have thought that
Mel Gibson was a tough one. I would have thought
Alec Baldwin that leaked voicemail to his kid would have
been like his undoing. Yeah, but it's it's a matter
of where you stand in some like culture war where
you're like we should forgive him, like Harvey Weinstein even
tried to take that. He's like, I'll stop con control
the duke con control please please please. He's being dragged

(16:18):
away to like some fucking Croatian resort to get better rehab.
Yeah slang for who knows what. But yeah, it's again,
I don't It's like the same thing with like R Kelly.
I don't know how people are still going to console
Chris Brown. Yeah, like just I mean where I don't
want to start getting into like the equivalences of like

(16:38):
what's worse pissing like a girl or beating your wife,
but just or like holding women captive in your home
like and not letting them talk to you. They come back?
So did people come back so strong? And it's honestly,
money makes you indestructible. It's like what the lesson to
be learned in America? Yes, like you are unassailable if
you have enough money. You're just like I mean, like

(17:02):
that's what our entire political thing is now, right, Like
people like so many insane things have been said about
both Hillary and Trump and like literally nothing sticks. And
I mean I'm just saying that to be bipartisan for
a split second right, But um, so nothing sticks to
either person that the power protects you, you know, especially

(17:22):
like when other people have a lot to lose by
you going down. I feel like everything stuck to Hillary Man.
I feel like she got got a lot of ship.
I feel like nothing stuck to her husband, like he
got away with a lot of ship. But I feel
like Hillary got people just like never forgave her for
like letting her husband like fucking intern or like up

(17:42):
from an intern. Yeah. That again, we we have to
solve a problem being fair and balanced when treating the
sex is equally right, Dude, R Kelly is insane because
like just thinking back on that, like I've been listening
to some uh trapped in the closet Pikaliah like and
looking back like Timberland, yeah Aaliyah, you know, because you

(18:04):
can't like get that stuff on the streaming services but
not on Spotify, is not on Apple Music either. Spotify
gaps are very interesting. Yeah, I'm always like, really you
don't have this. That's where like the wars of like
Title and Apple Music all like you start seeing like,
well we got so you're gonna have Like I'm not
subscribing to all three, so uh on like some service

(18:27):
like tune in or something. I've thumbs up enough Aliah
that like one of her early album I think her
first album came on. That album was called ag Ain't
Nothing but a Number, and it had her as a
fourteen year old standing in the foreground and R Kelly
in the background, leaning against a wall, and like his
whole thing was that he was dating Aliyah, who was

(18:48):
like fourteen at the time. She was fifteen when they
got married. Dude, he was and like he's like standing
like leaning back against a wall, like like like a
like it's like he was he's gonna purchase her on
a yacht exactly. And we were like, yeah, but bumping
grind huh they met They met when she was twelve. Apparently,

(19:11):
Oh fuck, like this is a guy who like sexually
abused one of our like favorite female artists of the
past twenty years. And we were like, yeah, you know,
I mean, because you've got a little person and obscured
in the background. Yeah, oh god, yeah, because that is
fucking creepy because like she's in the foreground in focus
and then in the background like blurry looks like he's

(19:33):
on the phone, Like oh, I gotta go. Like he's
hanging up the phone, He's like, oh wait, hold on, Like, yeah,
I think I'm on camera. I think I'm on camera.
Yeah yeah. Look at the cover of her first album
again nothing but a number. And also like how they
have her name phonetically spelled in parentheses like above a yah. Yeah,
just just you don't get it, White America. Um, don't

(19:54):
you worry White America. She's not Middle Eastern. Um. Who
who do you think we've gotten? Not drum dat of society? Uh,
the furthest that will bounce back. I mean, we have
no reason to let wine steam back. Like mel Gibson's Like,
actors have it a little bit better because they're personal
connection to them, right, whereas like Weinstein's gone, Um, I'm

(20:17):
gonna play it safe. I'm gonna say Steve Bartman, Oh okay,
that's a good one. Is that the dude from the
club I think I think I think they honestly let
him once the Clubs won the World Series. I feel
like they him. Uh that's the furthest I'm gonna go. Yeah,
I don't know who knows that at this rate? Right,
Like it could be how insane the world is, right,

(20:38):
now it could be who knows, like fucking Harvey Weinstein
or something like it's impossible to say how what's gonna
happen with Woody Allen or you know the other Yeah, um,
I was trying to I'm trying to think of who's
like really actually fucked, like who's out of society because

(21:01):
there's not many. He was like Tom Hanks like castaway,
who's who's been drummed out? And is like, hopefully they'll
be all to come like Stacy Dash. Yeah, that's I
think that's a solid pick. Stacy Dash will not be
allowed back into the black community. I don't think they'll
ever If R Kelly is coming back, who knows? That's fun?

(21:22):
I mean, Stacy Dash, come on, you broke my heart, Stacy.
We have a list in front of us of like
uh Nel Gibson's like sort of rap sheet of like
all the bad ship that he did, and it's like
way worse than I remember. Like, so, first of all,
when he was arrested for the d u I in
two thousand six and called a female officer sugar tits

(21:43):
and also said that the Jews are responsible for all
the wars in the world, he was already being considered
a anti semit for making the Passion of the Christ,
which like had an anti Semitic message. So it's like
he was already like had to like do an interview
with Ian Sawyer that I worked on because I worked
at ABC News at the time, and I was like

(22:06):
looked into his dad had this like weird anti Semitic church,
and he was like, no, I swear up and down
I'm not anti Semitic. And then he had this thing
where he was like the Jews are responsible for for
all the wars in the world. And then he called
Oneona writer and Oven Dodger at a party. Uh. And
then he's like making up his own racial slurs. Yeah, yeah,

(22:28):
he made that one up. It's nice. At least. Good
takeaway from this is we can learn new racial exactly
because when when I first like, what is he talking? Like,
oh God, okay, and then in in interviews for Daddy's
Home Too, he's like talking shit about feminists. Like he's
just straight up he hasn't changed. Why how are you

(22:50):
not like prepped to death by some publicist who's like, look,
just talk about the fucking movie, talk about how excited
you are to work in a comedy. You love Mark Wahlberg,
blah blah blah, the funk, do not talk, do not
dress any issue. If someone says, like, how do you
feel about the bio politics, just say like ye, just
fart and be like right. In his Playboy interview, he goes,

(23:11):
I had a female business partner wants didn't work, goes
why not? And he goes, she was a c word?
Uh using the world Tuesday, see you next Tuesday. It's
not a bad word in Australia. That was like the
first day of New York City rugby team. What got
in the huddle? Uh? And the b team captain he's

(23:33):
just like says, all right, we're gonna get after, We're
gonna smash these kunds, these fucking and he just says
it so many times. I was so taken aback and
someone was like yeah, as you say it, like yeah, okay, okay, yeah.
So I don't know, this will be interesting, but it'll
also be interesting to see how he pulls off the
bad boy role of Mark Wallbrigg's dead right, blinded a guy.

(23:58):
All right, we will be right back in a moment,
and we're back. So we wanted to talk a little
bit for our sort of middle section about the history
of the n r A. We've talked about the n

(24:20):
r A in the past couple of days after the
mass shooting in Texas, and you know, people talk about
them in the aftermath of mass shootings a lot because
they you know, they have this pattern where they just
kind of stay out of the headlines for a little while.
They just don't comment on anything for a little while.
They might even come out and say, yeah, we're for

(24:42):
responsible you know, laws about like uh outlawing bump stocks
was the thing after the Vegas shooting, and then nothing happened.
Well no, and then they reversed that. We're like, nah, no,
don't funk with our bump stocks, like after after like
like the slightest, slightest concession would be like we're gonna
make something that is an aftermarket mod illegal, yeah, that

(25:03):
we don't even sell. We're not even And then they're
like no, Also they how do they have sorry, you
keep going check, how do they happens by the balls?
That much trying to figure out. So so they started
out in eighteen seventy one, after two Union officers from
the Civil War. We're like, we fucking suck at shooting.

(25:25):
We like we apparently the Union side, for everyone successful
shot that they took, had shot a thousand bullets, so
they were one for a thousand in the in the
Civil War. I don't think there's anything with odds that bad. No, No,
that's really fucking bad, especially because the big difference in

(25:46):
the Civil War. The reason the Civil War was so
deadly was because they had much better weaponry, Like they
had rifles that could shoot straight and you just lined
up and you're like, all right, last. Well, so they
had better weaponry, but the generals were still used to
running people at each other. And so that's why so
many people died. But uh, and it was the same
country on both sides. And also you double the body company. Also,

(26:10):
most of the people who died in the Civil War
died of like diarrhea essentially. Um. But so these two
young and soldiers were like, we should create a club
to help educate the next generation on being marksman. Uh
and you know hunting and recreational target shooting. Uh. So

(26:31):
they tried to you know, make shooting a more popular pastime. Uh.
And then a bunch of presidents got shot. Uh. Lincoln
Garfield McKinley. Uh, and an attempt on Teddy Roosevelt. He
got shot in the chest and then proceeded to give
a like forty five minute speech with the bullet in
his chest. Uh. But when they were man um. But

(26:55):
so then are A at that point actually worked with
the federal government on a lot of gun restrictions, uh,
trying to you know, keep guns out of the hands
of x cons and the mentally ill. Uh. They supported
state permit requirements for concealed carry. Um. And when there
were a bunch of crimes in the thirties, they helped

(27:17):
FDR kind of pass a bunch of gun control laws
or like include gun control laws in the new deal. Uh.
The then president of the n r A testified before
Congress and said, quote, I have never believed in the
general practice of carrying weapons. I do not believe in
the general promiscuous toting of guns. I think it should
be sharply restricted and only under licenses. So what happened

(27:44):
have changed a bit, and we were completely in the
antithetical reality. Right. So whenever the government has tightened restrictions
on guns, then r A has helped support and enforced
those restrictions, including there were bills introduced in responses to
the j if k assassination. And after Martin Luther King,
and Robert Kennedy were killed, they kept tightening guns. And

(28:07):
then this asshole comes along named Harlan Carter. Uh So,
this guy when he was he was like a shooting champion.
When he was a seventeen year old, his mother got scared.
Three Mexicans were hanging around his neighborhood and they scared
his mom because she thought they had stolen the family's

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car three weeks earlier. Uh. So, this dude, as a
seventeen year old, goes to find the three Mexican kids
who were younger than him. Uh, and he brings a
shotgun and one of the kids is presumably scared that
this strangers pointing a shotgun, Adam pulls out a knife.
Uh and uh he immediately shoots that kid dead. Uh

(28:53):
dies immediately. Uh. And a court finds him guilty of murder.
He tries to claim self defense. The judges like, nah,
you just straight up that's not how self defense works. Uh.
And you know, he was sentenced to three years in prison,
but a higher court avoided the conviction. Uh, presumably because

(29:14):
he was a good old boy. I'm sure, I'm sure
it would have happened exactly the same way if the
Mexican kid had shot him. I'm sure that kid would
not still be in jail. Uh So, yeah, just like
a day go to bring a knife where the line
came from toward he And that's part of his like

(29:36):
originary myth to like that. A lot of people think
of that, like they hold him in high respect because
you're like, yeah, man, he stood his ground and like, yeah,
that's the beginning of like the toxic fall, right right. So, uh,
his theory on guns was you don't stop crying by
attacking guns. You stopped crying by stopping criminals, which is
basically the early version of you need good guys with

(29:58):
guns to stop bad guys with guns. Uh. It was
just way more radical than the rest of the n
r A, to the point that they tried to like
cripple his wing by firing a bunch of the employees.
But then he like had this hostile takeover. And you know,
ever since Reagan came to power, because Reagan was the
first presidential candidate endorsed by the n r A to

(30:20):
ever come to power. Uh, ever since Reagan came to power.
He his sort of wing of the n r A
has been in power. He also was super racist, like,
it wasn't a an accident that that kid was Mexican.
He Uh, it wasn't an accident that his mom immediately
thought it was three Mexican kids that stole the car.

(30:41):
They lived down the block. Right. He started the quote
biggest drive against illegal aliens in history, calling it Operation
web Back. Uh in so cool dude was about right. Uh. So.
He said he wanted the n r A to be
so strong and so dedicated that no politician America, mindful

(31:02):
of his political career, would want to challenge their goals.
And their goals were basically to oppose anything having to
do with gun laws or you know, gun control laws.
And the court basically in two thousand and eight they
had this big victory because Antonin Scalia, who was appointed
by Reagan, one of our favorite, uh, basically legitimized the

(31:29):
long held n r A belief that the Second Amendment
was the right to bear arms and that that law
extended to individuals and not only to a well regulated militia. Exactly, um,
because that's what the founding fathers were actually thinking. Of
when they created the law. But so yeah, their own

(31:51):
history proves that you can be both pro gun and
pro gun control. Um, I think the status three out
of ten American adults own guns, but only nineteen percent
of those are n r A members. And when you
look at those two, even though they would outwardly appear
to be similar, n r A members tend to own
more guns. On average, They're more likely to describe their

(32:13):
political views as republican or quote very conservative, and go
shooting and hunting more frequently than uh other gun owners,
and they say that owning a gun is quote very
important to their overall identity. So I guess it's three
out of ten adults owned guns, but only nineteen percent
of gun owners are n r A members, So it's

(32:33):
not a very big portion of the gun five or
six million members. But yeah, I think the strength of
you know, when people don't understand like why they're so powerful.
They can mobilize this grassroots thing so quickly and just
get these phones ringing in congressman's offices, and that's what
gives these people in an office like the illusion of
like oh this like this is very powerful. But they

(32:55):
just have a group of many dedicated people, lobbyists and
grassroots people to put a lot of pressure on these Yeah.
And also it's like a major part, like guns make
America a lot of money. Like so, and if you're
can get it's worth spending money on guns for these
people because they're only gonna make more money when we

(33:17):
have to make half a million machine guns for American
troops and then they don't, we don't need them anymore.
We get a new round of guns. The where do
all those guns go? Right? They just we are sold
to other people. We've got a R fifteens for cops now,
like cool, Like I just watched the Professional um with that.

(33:38):
So yeah, so when we were talking about R. Kelly before,
that was on my mind a little bit. But then
also there's a scene when they go to finally get
um Leon at the end of the movie. These soldiers
come in there the d e A and they're like
sort of crooked, but they all have ski masks and
like tactical gear and like giant guns, long guns and
all that, And I'm like, that's who's at like the

(33:59):
mall now right? This is like this this movie is
like you it's like in the nineties in New York
and you're like, this is intense. This is what they're
sending for assassins. Now, those dudes are just fucking everywhere
and that's terrifying. Like you should be able to see
a cops face, right, You should like a cops face
should not be hidden. If they get to have a
big gun, you should be able to at least look

(34:20):
them in the eye and see that they are not
losing their mind or getting irrationally angry, or if they
do open fire on someone, you could be like it
was that, Yeah, yeah, shouldn't look like bad guys from
g I Joe. It's uh, yeah, it's true when you
really do think, because when you see a lot of
those rallies too, when people are doing open carry, it's

(34:42):
exactly that. And I almost feel like you shouldn't be
able to like open carry and have your face obscured either,
like the you should be able to open carry and
be dressed in any sort of military guard because then
you're like, are you US military or are you a
fucking you know, oath keeper from fucking coming in from
your I mean some states you can't even have open beer.

(35:06):
And then these motherfucker's walking around like a just a
full on machine gun. What am I supposed to say
to my children about those two men kissing? I don't know,
what do you tell them when a fucking guy with
a machine gun walks in the subway? Right? Yeah? The restaurant. Yeah,
and restaurant interesting, aggressive, sit down restaurant I go for

(35:28):
my anniversary. But I think it's the difference, Like the
n r A used to be a you know, a
group that advocated for gun owner rights, and now they are,
like you're saying, John, for basically gun manufacturers, and they
want to do whatever is in the interest of gun manufacturers.

(35:50):
So that includes, you know, scaring the ship out of
people who uh, you know, by thousands of guns and
like have basements stocked full of weapons. You know. That's
why I thought Obama had them all now, right exactly, Wait,
he didn't end up coming. I can't believe after eight
years some of these gun nuts aren't Like, I don't
think he's getting them, anyone's going to take them, right.

(36:13):
But the genius thing that they've done is after because like,
gun sales shot through the roof when Obama was elected,
and after he was out of office, they were like, well,
how the funk are we gonna get Like gun sales
went way down once Trump was elected, but so they've
now focused on the resistance. Like the nr ads are
all basically like militarizing the you know, resistance to Trump,

(36:37):
and like the protesters and stuff. They're like anti fuzz,
punching people in the face. You need a machine gun,
Like how will you fight their super soldiers by super
soldiers talking about like angry guys who like Radiohead, right,
And it's like they're not doing this ship that those
fucking nr A videos are. I think the wild. I
think we're gonna like get to hopeful the year and

(37:01):
like look back on those n r A videos and
be like that was truly criminal, Like that that that
ship is that is stirring discontent for the sole purpose
to make money. Like that's insane. It reminds me of
the movie Scrooged when Bill Murray is like pitching. He's
showing the promo for their holiday special and the promo
is like if you miss this, you will die, and

(37:22):
like a nuclear bomb lands on like a woman's house
and it like blows up and they're like, I'm sir.
They're getting a lot of complaints about it's like the
joke is out, and then this is what it's like.
They literally say, like and it's like such coded language,
of course, just like racial coding and all this stuff.
But there's also like the images line up with like
danger and it's like a picture of like five black

(37:44):
guys protesting or whatever. It's like it's fun and they're yeah,
they're basically like just halfheartedly promoting like armed conflict among
people among American and essentially you know, making it seem
like people who protest Trump are like an enemy, right,

(38:05):
that we're terrorists. They're telling that to people who have
guns and journal like, I know, you're stoking a fucking
group of people who have not been background checked before
they purchased these guns. We don't know what their mental
health issues are. And then they're watching like I think
of that fucking I'm just referencing every piece of pop
culture I've consumed in the last ten years. But the

(38:26):
Slenderman documentary, when they're like, um, and she was just
watching YouTube videos and they show like a sizzle reel
of what she was watching, and it's all like mostly innocuous,
but to cut together, it's like the fucking ring video
you know, like this would twist someone's belief system in
an instant and then you're like, you're a fucking sort
of on edge person who has you know, maybe some
sort of personality disorder, some sort of mental health issues.

(38:48):
You own a couple of guns. Then you watch a
video where someone says this person's out to get you,
you know what I mean, Like fucking people showed up
to comment pizza or whatever with a gun. Yeah, to
save them kids. Yeah, they're all gassed up off these
conspiracy theories. It's fucking it's upset. That was the tragedy
of of even the shooting in the church. Like immediately
people were trying to spend that as like the November

(39:10):
fourth Antifa revolution that they were trying to kick off
and trying to tie this guy like that is so reckless.
There was like ten Google results like right after that,
you know, attached him as a liberal, as an earning supporter,
Like it's just like, how can we spend it's thoughts
and prayers? They were literally thinking and praying, and when

(39:30):
when it happened to that and then it's what's funny
was like Fox News the next day when like a
lot of people on Twitter, were like, you know, thoughts
and prayers didn't help them, and they're like how could they,
Like that's what they were taking offense to. It's like,
you know, we're people of faith, and how dare they
like just trying to deflect from what the real conversation
is and it's it's it's just disturbing. But the good
thing is like Jeff Flake, Mr renegade Kamakaze Senator because

(39:52):
now he's not running for re election, him and Martin
Heinrich Center from New Mexico like they're actually writing there
going to attempt to put for a bill that will
like close like the I forget I think it's the
Lattenberg Amendment, which is what you know they were saying,
Uh is the amendment that you know said that people
who were convicted of domestic abuse whatever couldn't have guns.

(40:13):
But what they're trying to do is like in that bill,
the wording is very like there's like a boyfriend loophole
because they define like domestic abuses like your wife or
like the mother of a child. So if you're just cohabitating,
you're not married, you don't have kids, and you you
beat on your your partner, that was like that wouldn't
get reported, and they're also trying to make sure because
I think one of the big goofs too, like a

(40:33):
goof is a horrible way to say that, but a
huge oversight was the fact of the Air Force. Yeah,
like those old, those old sports teams um that, Yeah,
the Air Force did not properly report uh, you know,
his charge. And they're really trying to do something about that.
So it seems like something like you know, maybe they're
going to do something, but again, we'll never know until
we see who will actually come out and support this thing.

(40:55):
And if the n r A is again going to intimidate.
I mean, it's got it's got to be the thing.
I feel, it's so hacked. Keep saying, we're like, we're
the only country who's dealing with it on such the scale. Yeah,
and then every single fucking counter argument from the right
is some version of like it's like fighting with your
significant other when they like they just change what the

(41:16):
entire argument is about. They're like, well, what about Chicago,
And it's like, no, no, no no, tal we can get
to that. Yeah, we'll get to Chicago. Uh, Chicago's districted
guns in the country. Illinois yeah, well they are bordered
by four states that don't like Indiana, Like they'll give
you a gun for showing up. Yeah, if you have
a Reggie Miller Jersey, you get too free guns. You
know who the Duncan judgment. He went to Maris College.

(41:39):
He's like the second most famous alumnia. Yeah, yeah, we
gotta rep Yeah, I gotta swing this um. But every
and every counter argument is like, it's a mental health issue,
and it's like, okay, so then why not have that
mental health thing in a gun bill? You know what
I mean? Like that Trump rolled back that Obama tried

(42:01):
to right, and it's like, kids, something that happened, right,
there was a mental health about gun ownership. There was,
and again it was rolled back. It was like one
of the first things Trump did in February when he
took office was like roll this thing back, and only
because it had Obama's name on it, of course exactly. Uh.
And then there's fucking like you can be on the
no fly list and still buy guns, Like it just

(42:21):
feels insane. And then like the truck ship will happen
and someone will be like, yeah, we're gonna outload trucks.
It's like he killed nine people on a busy in
downtown Manhattan with a truck. This guy killed twenties six.
He killed like six percent of the population of a town,
and only because there wasn't that many people there was

(42:43):
the only reason it's twenty six. And so their fucking
counter arguments on that make no sense. Well, if if
everyone had guns in New York, they could have stopped
that driver. It's like the last thing I want I
feel safe. It's like every fucking slow dad pulling out
a pistol and firing on a moving truck. God help you.
You're the guy who's trying to move a moving truck
and you don't think you're in reverse and you're in
drive and you actually drive forward onto a sidewalk a

(43:04):
little and then five people shoot you and you're like,
who was in accident? Yeah, I wouldn't even trust a
group of elite soldiers to open fire in a densely
populated area on a car. Also, this is in g
t A. My man, like, you're not gonna blow the
car up because you shoot it enough times. Now, one
of my favorite things in the world their action movies,
Like I'm obsessed with them. Sagal Chuck Norris, all these
people who end up monster, scumbags whatever. I didn't realize

(43:27):
how much the culture of these movies permeated the culture
of modern society. Like these movies are all good guys
with guns, and I think that's what everyone believes themselves
to be, Like all these like gun nuts believe themselves
to be the person who's like when when my house
is surrounded by the purge and they want to rape
and kill my family, I'm ready for them, you know.

(43:48):
And that to me is like, why don't we nip
what's going to cause the purge in the bud? But well,
because they want that that, they want the ability to
kill people. That's why people love fun in zombie movies
because the zombie movie, you can kill humans that are
that are in human. Yeah, exactly, so you can just
fucking shoot them. And it's like, oh, imagine if I

(44:09):
wish there were zombies so I could just open fire
on people. It's fucking insane. But that's why you anytime
there's a home invasion where the person whose home it
is like shoots the person invading, like that ship will
be blasted out there, and all the gun magazines every
like Fox news outlet. Oh yeah, and then but every

(44:29):
time someone fucking toddler blows their fucking handoff in their
parents gun safe like that ship isn't everything? And a
lot of and a lot of them are marketed towards defense,
aren't There Like a lot of like gun magazines too,
Like they take an angle of like you need these
guns for defense. It's like, hey, you like like hunting
or like target shooting or whatever. It's like, man, they
stopping power. They love to bring up, right, That's why

(44:52):
they should be shotguns. If you if you want to
protect your house, just buy a fucking shotgun. It's not
something you can fucking stand up in a tower and
take out of a hundred people with, but it is
something that even an idiot wouldn't miss with, you know
what I mean. You don't even have to aim. All right,
we're gonna take a break and we'll be back after this.

(45:20):
And we're back, all right, We're gonna run through a
few quick stories here on our way out. Um. The
Paradise Papers is an ongoing story. Basically, all of the
extremely extremely wealthy people UH are are are awful people
who are hiding their money, finding ways to hide their money. Uh,

(45:44):
it's just I think the person who released the Panama
papers uh said that, you know, this is the story
of inequality in our time, and you know this is
basically chapter two of that story, and it's insane. Our
producer Nick Stump was saying that this kind of puts

(46:04):
further lie to the idea of merit being at the
root of wealth, whereas like this seems to indicate wealth
is a self feeding and extremely destructive form of like
mental illness, Like, uh, yeah, it is an addiction and
you have to feed it. But also this really talk

(46:27):
about like merit, this really nips in the bud trickle
down in any way too, where it's like any counterargument
you have to that is like well if you're not
even if the money is not even being taxed by
the American government, like you want to lower your tax
rates and you're not even getting all your money tax
I thought, like, I love this Paradise paper ship. First
of all, what a great fucking name, ratchy name. It's like, yes,

(46:49):
we're finding about offshore weird ship. It's like the firm,
it's like Pelican brief sound like something Saltsham story. Can
you go through just kind of give us no on
the right, but the right doesn't the Queen of England
have a bunch of money in there, and it's like
that money is not helping England, the country that is
in her name. Do you believe some of their taxes

(47:10):
still go to the fucking queen? Like, how pissed would
you be if they were just like funneling your tax
your tax dollars to some old lady who was just
like buying jewelry with it. Um? Yeah, So I don't know,
this is gonna be an ongoing story, but yeah, I
think that's a really good point. I mean, part of
the whole rationale behind the Republican tax reform is that

(47:32):
America has some of the highest corporate taxes. So we're
gonna go from thirty down to on the corporate taxes,
it's still going to be higher than zero, which is like,
how what the only thing that will make these people happy? Um?
So yeah, I don't know. Uh. Let's move on to
Taylor Swift. You guys, she is suing people for writing articles.

(47:55):
Were yeah, threatening to sue people sending a season desist Miles,
you're our expert, and Taylor Swift, I am a swifty
coming Swifty McVeigh shout out to a D twelve. Uh So,
Taylor Swift, you know, obviously most people you may or
may not know, the like Nazis, have embraced her because
she's you know, she looks like an Aryan goddess. Uh.

(48:18):
And she doesn't really speak out politically too much, So
that's given enough ambiguity for Nazi to say she's on
our team. She was like the one famous person who
didn't come out and openly support Hillary Clinton in the
last election. That seems like and she's just has nothing
to say about anything political or like what is wrong
with the world. So again, it's easy to when you
have no opinion up here, like you support whatever the

(48:40):
fuck you want them, right, and you don't alienate anyone. Yeah, exactly,
keep going. So she uh, someone I forget what the
website was, So the Daily Stormers wrong about her, right, Yeah,
the Daily Stormers. So someone someone interviews over the day
of storm and they're like, oh, so what do you
think about Taylor Swift. He's like, well, look, you know,
she's she's definitely a Nazi. She just waiting for Donald

(49:00):
Trump to create like this is a sort of a
summation of what this quote was, but something to the
factive like she's waiting for Donald Trump to create the
right environment for her to come out and announce her
like her Arian plan or something like that na Nazi website. Yeah,
and so not to be confused with websitessite, like everything

(49:21):
with Twitter dot com. So so. An editor at pop
Front this website wrote, like, you know, an opinion piece
on how you know Taylor Swift is kind of problematic
and that she needs to come out and publicly address
this and say, look straight up, I am not I'm
no way a Nazi. I don't want anyone thinking I
have anything to do with you. I denounced all this
ship and then all. But then she was also kind

(49:42):
of making uh sort of she was suggesting that things
in her video. We're sort of proving this point that
she may actually be a Nazier. She's she's she's hiding
language to secretly communicate with them. So sure, you know whatever,
I don't, I'm not really on that train. Yeah, that's
a stretch. I'm I definitely do believe you know, the
Nazis are like, yo, your team Hitler, they're definitely seeing

(50:04):
that ship. Then you need to come out, and they're
not a big enough market that you're going to go
platinum selling to only Nazis, So your best bet is
to just distance yourself from them. And the second you say,
like Nazis don't buy my fucking album, like I think
maybe POC's would swing back in a Taylor Swift directions,
who don't like Nazis? So and so. Yeah, so she

(50:26):
wrote this piece, then suddenly she got hit with a
season desists letter from Taylor Swift's lawyers like hey, you know,
basically saying like you're you're lying about her and misleading
or whatever. But keep in mind, this isn't reporting. This
is just someone's opinion and they're getting hit with a
season desist for having an opinion, which is a very
slippery slope here. Like again, maybe Taylor Swift does realize

(50:47):
that's Trump's America and you can just try and like
shut people down for having opinions whatever, who knows. But
then like the A C L you got involved in
like kind of school, and people like, hey, you know,
this is not on the level in any way like
her trying her trying to hit her with this season
this is like this is someone's opinion, like, so we're
gonna do go through Twitter too. Man, I'm starting to
think that maybe she does have some sympathies to to

(51:09):
the Nazi cause, because like at first, I was like, oh,
she's just like doing the you know, she's all about
making money and like having corporate sponsors and stuff. But
now she's at a point where her continued like insistence
on not distancing herself from Nazis is like the difficult
thing to do. Like that's it's crazy that you have

(51:31):
to come out and say you're anti Nazi in like,
but it's not a given anymore. But I do. Someone
pointed out one time to me, someone said the phrase, Oh,
if you're trying to say, like I don't really get
into box, I don't really care about politics, what you're
saying is I'm privileged enough that current political uh climate
doesn't affect And that's like an insane way like rephrasing

(51:53):
it like that, of just like, of course Taylor Swift
is like, well, I don't want to get political. It's like,
of course you don't have to get political, right, you're
a billionaire, You're you're gonna be mine in perpetuity. Yeah,
And you. You've been in that position since you were
born because your dad was like started a hedge fund
sucking millionaire. So uh so again, I mean, I don't
you know, I think she needs to say something. You

(52:13):
gotta say something. I don't know if she's like trying
to like, you know, dog whistle the Nazis or anything
like that with her videos, but her videos suck anywhere,
stealing Nicki Minaj is flowing that last song. Whatever, Taylor
gets your act together, it's not hard to say. I
don't funk with Nazis. It's not controversial. And then in
the in the season to Sis letter, they try to say,
like and let this letter stand as another public rebuke

(52:36):
that Taylor does not do. That's like, yo, it's not enough.
No one is, no one's She's not tweeting that letter out.
She needs to show her face and make a statement.
So hey, yeah, I mean it looks like Katie Perry,
Lady Gaga, and Beyonce, who have stated against they seem
to be doing financially. Okay, I don't think Taylor is
gonna go down. And again, yeah, she must on some

(52:58):
level feel that it is going to alien people. And
I guess and that's more troubling because if you're worried
that you're alienating people with like dated, ignorant, racist viewpoints.
Is she like country adjacent though with her pop and
like the in the in the genre. I don't really
know she was originally, so maybe she feels like her
basse is that, but still but I think would shake

(53:19):
it off like that that brought in a hole, that
that that made her. I don't I'm not a tailor.
Hit Swift his story and people are gonna tweet and
like the first song whatever, But yeah, she's done. She's
straight up popping. I mean she's like rapping base So
I mean she's alienating music. Yeah, she's she's a rapid nazi.
Who knows. I don't know. I'm not saying that, Hey,

(53:41):
don't come from me together. And finally, three U c
l A. Basketball players were arrested in China for shoplifting
from Uh I forget what story? Well get you fancy
people John to the International Show. Uh yeah, so I

(54:04):
don't know. Uh yeah, so le Angelo Ball, the middle
brother of the three Ball brothers. Uh, the offspring of
the demon LaVar Ball Ball is life, Yeah, Ball life,
BBB kids who can't wear nikes because their dad makes
them wear their own off branch shit. Um, yeah, he
was there touring China and even three other players try
to shop with He's facing possibly, if if convicted, three

(54:27):
to ten years in Chinese prison, which I feel your
ball game, well yeah, because let me tell you, the
quality of basketball in those Chinese prisons is not what
you think. It's not like out here. It's not like
prisons from movies. Yeah, exactly where people are like it's
like Midnight Express. I have people to death for like
selling drugs or even like having them. I think, yeah,

(54:49):
it's it's it's a tough you do not want to
be caught shoplifting out there, although you know again it's
I just feel bad that, like I do not like
LaVar ball so much that I'm somehow trying to be like, yeah,
he should probably go to jail. In my head, I'm
picturing the dad going hey granmy couple and Louisa Tombegs,
Like I feel like the dad is just ruining his
kids life to such an aggressive degrees, like hey, while

(55:10):
you're there, they don't even give a funk about shoplift
and grant me some and for and again if you're
not a sports fan, let me just tell you why
LaVar Ball is just an idiot. First of all, his
has three sons that are pretty good at basketball. Uh
you know, we'll see how they pan out. But he
was the number two draft pick of U c. L A,
one of the great point cards from for playing last year.

(55:31):
So he basically tried to get like shoe deals, because
that's what you do when you go to the league.
You try and shop around, get like a huge, mega
million dollars shoe deal. And he basically got shut down
by like Adidas, Nike, under Arm or all the big
companies because he was going around being like, look, I
don't want your deal. You pay me one billion dollars
right now, and you get all three of my kids.
Like he was trying to push this like deal that

(55:52):
is just it doesn't work. And it just shows that
he's so out of touch and arrogant that he thinks
he can do that. That's why I'm like, yo, LaVar,
fall back, but your kids. Basically he's a mamager exactly.
Um No. And then he's trying to like, you know,
have beef with Magic Johnson. That's a no, no, not
in this city, not with me, don't funk with magic,
don't funk with magic. All right, that's all the time

(56:14):
we have. John, thank you so much for joining us.
Thanks for oh yeah, this was exciting. Where is the
most serious I've ever been on the podcast? I think? Yeah,
and this has been one of our most laughy podcasts. Yeah,
well we can laugh ourselves through. Yeah, So where can
people follow you? I'm at John Gabriels on Twitter jail.

(56:36):
I've been trying to get at Gabriel. This person has
had it for seven years and has never fucking tweeted once.
The laws are shitty like that, because you can't just
there's no way to be like, if you're squatting on
and not doing anything, you can get it back, like
you have to prove that, like they stole your like
your identity to get it. Yeah, it's kind of an
obnoxious And I'm at gabriels picks on Instagram. And you
can listen to any one of my podcasts Raised by

(56:58):
TV High and Mighty or Action Ways find it wherever
you find podcasts. So raised by TV is you and
Lauren lap Kiss talking about TV? Yes? Uh, and it's
so good. It's it's already obnoxious, like we just we
just ramp and ramble about television. The episodes go all
over the place. We have like a sketch comedy episode,
an animated episode, commercials and snacks. We did an episode

(57:19):
where we do a fantasy family draft where we draft
uh sitcom data sitcom from It's really fun. If you
are anywhere in between the ages of like forty five,
you'll probably know every all most of there. It just
came out right, just drop today, yeah episode. Yeah, I
just came out today. Now today or yeah, I guess
the same day because this is Wednesday. Yeah. Yeah, we

(57:40):
don't lie anymore. We we used to lie. Sorry, you
had to change, you know you guys. Someone's gotta bring
truth in this current climate. The current climate, by the way,
it should be to fucking my tattoo. I've said it
like fifteen times. Current climb, this current climate. I'm like
afraid this. I gotta couch everything with like so as
you know, the world is fun, this current climate. But
what about Pumpkins, Brice, slap teams miles Where in this

(58:02):
current climate? Can people follow you? In this current climate,
you can find me. I'm gonna be checking out John's podcast,
and also check me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles
of Gray, am I at the s o F g
R A Y. You can follow me at Jack Underscore O'Brien.
You can follow us at the Daily Zegeist on Instagram.
We have a Facebook fan page, the Daily Zeitgeist, and
we are on Twitter at daily Zeitgeist uh. And we

(58:25):
have a website called daily zeitgeist dot com where we
post foot of all the links and articles that we
were using the sources so you can tell that we're
not making stuff up. And we'll be back tomorrow because
it is a daily podcast. Talk to you then,