January 25, 2019 • 60 mins
In episode 316, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Brooke Van Poppelen to discuss the adjective "wild," Mark Zuckerberg's meat obsession, the State Of The Union being delayed, the situation in Venezuela, Wilbur Ross's lack of understanding of the human race, Costco's new streaming-video service, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season sixty six, episode
four of their Daily's Night guyst the podcast where we
take a deep down into America's share consciousness using the headlines,
box office reports, TV ratings, what's trending on Google? And
so she meets It's Friday, January nine. Team, my name
is Jack O'Brien, a K transformers more than meets O'Brien
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courtesy Annassaults, and I'm thrilled to be joined as always
buy my co host Mr Miles Gray Ship get ready
for this one in the time from Fancy's I Was
a Monkey, It's I gang in my faint So I'm
out to put the junkeey with the plastic mild balls,
great paint the vegetables. Jack full stalls with the beefcake
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and a hole. A thank you to Tyler Olton for
that soul second ray, guys, we're some losers, baby, that's
why we are podcasters. Okay, so that is from Tyler
Olton again. Yes, a spincter says at the speaker, says,
(01:07):
what thank you? You don't beck uh shout out scientology? Yeah, yeah,
shout out sychology. Indeed, we were shout to the Golden suicides. Yeah.
Do you think he gets his talent from side of course? Yeah?
I mean that's why term cruiselets of it. I mean,
does Beck like Beck ad time traveling with his face Lee? No,
(01:31):
I think I think that's particularly to Thomas. I think
you have to be yeah to look back at Okay,
but we are thrown to be joined in our third
seat by the hilarious comedian, actor and writer Van Poplin.
I'm here, it's Van Poplin. Off it is there we go,
(01:53):
everyone get Poplin and Laughlin past good so good are
you from? I'm from the Detroit Verbs from Michigan going
back and Lackland. Um, yeah, from the Verbs in Detroit. Uh.
Lived in Chicago for a little bit after that my
(02:13):
comedy career started. Yeah, I did like Second City ioh
began stand up She still questioning that choice and uh yeah.
Then did New York City for a decade and now
I've been here about three and I don't know about
l A still. I like the what do you think?
I mean? I like some cool adult things sort of
(02:35):
were able to happen for me here, but I don't.
I don't know, it's a whole thing. I was like,
I'm listen. I decided to stop drinking two days ago.
Everyone else did, like you know, dry January was like
funk that ship. And then I I was like, I
choose my own weird date. So I'm like starting dry
January three. So maybe February my goal is a month.
(02:57):
We'll see. But yeah, it's just I feel I think
it's a lot of people say after they've moved here
from New York City, like just kind of lost, don't
know my place. There are very people vastuely different styles
of cities. Yeah, but I'm determined, Like this is the
year where I was like, I just want to like
put it out there. Like you guys, you don't know
what it means to be invaded to a podcast. It
was really excited to get in a car and drive somewhere.
(03:20):
So thank you. I've been here almost ten years and
I feel like I'm just now getting out of that phase.
But I am a severe introverts greatly slowed my progress,
So I'm sure you're gonna be fun. No, you know,
but I was, I was like, you know, what will
get me really on the map is like starting my
own podcast. I'm like I'm home even more now, like
(03:44):
what's your podcast. It's called sidework podcast Sork. It's all
we're all a former service industry or current waitresses dish
in about that side food and restaurant that nobody gives
us any glory, you know. So almost everyone's been a
waiter or server at some point in their life or
it's now been posited by Ellen DeGeneres and also our
(04:06):
girl Sandy B. Bullock that she's like, everyone should wait
tables one day of their life to understand what it's
like to be able to multitask wait on someone else.
We nominated President Trump is the person who needs to
wait tables one day of his life more than anyone.
He would argue with all the customers, Yeah you didn't
your food, what was wrong with it? Okay, well it
(04:27):
was a Trump steak because steaks. Uh. We played a
game where we were there's this hashtag called server life,
which is really funny if you've been a server, it's
like they're on the job, just tables they hate in
the moment. And so we played a game, um where
we were all tweeting as Trump as a waiter, like
hashtag server life, and he was just like totally in
(04:48):
the weeds, right, now basically because I reported half the
kitchen staff too. Ice s my fault, right right, server life,
Server Life. Yeah, that or at least work off tips
just to Yeah, that'll definitely put your mind at in
the zone. Yes, it sure will. So anyways, we just
got rejected by iTunes. I think because so we'll have
(05:10):
to talk to you guys for some help or something. Yeah,
we got I did everything all the thing, and I
think it's because I forgot to turn on the explicit
content in SoundCloud. So I resubmitted. But I was like,
we're not like the We're not like the Hitler Youth podcast.
Like you know, I'm looking now and it looks like
it might be the graphic nudity in your logo. Maybe yeah,
(05:34):
I'm just about Yeah. No, one day is exactly how
long I lasted as a waiter. I was very bad
at it, very shaky hands. Oh no, pouring water all
over good? Sure it is product. All right, brok, We're
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you gonna get to know you a little bit better
in a moment. First, we're telling our listeners a few
of the things we're talking about. We're gonna talk about
Mark Zuckerberg's meat obsession and how he kills that meat.
We're gonna talk about the State of the Union address
being delayed and just how the the right is dealing
with the idea that maybe the negotiator in chief isn't
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that good at negotiating. We're gonna talk about Venezuela being
an absolute shit show, all of that and plenty moore.
But first, Brooke, we like to ask our guest, what
is something from your search history that's revealing about who
you are? Well, God, I don't know. I feel like
I already blew that up at the top. I was like,
it is just nonstep searches, Like why did our it
tunes reject me? Why can't I have a podcast? Um?
(06:39):
I was like really going through it and I was like,
it's just like this and then seamless, and then I
was really Then I was also researching Dutch Wool mid
century modern blankets, So there we are. Everybody Dutch Wool
because they're so fucking rad. You get that ship up,
(07:00):
They're so cool, like, especially if you look on Etsy.
I kind of got a little absist. I really love
interior decor, but not spending a ton of money on it.
They're these old vintage blankets that you throw over a
nice new bed and they just are one of a kind.
And I keep waking up with like wiry pieces of
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wool in my eyeball. But but my room looks so good. Really,
I'll show you a picture. Actually, I'll just whatever. We
can talk. This is like, there's nothing against pulling up
a photo just while you're cad casting. I got the
best one, we'll say. It's not when you cuddle with
on the couch. You'd like put that to secure all
the heat. Oh yeah, okay, living that mid century modern dream, right,
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but it also like it looks like an alpaca living
on my bed. And uh, but the dogs love it.
They feel like they're in like a wolf den, just
like being cudd and it's good for exfoliating this yeah, anyway,
and the eyeballs. Yeah, but that was just a weird
recent You know, you're welcome et. See if you get
a bump with your Dutch well, you know, blanket sails.
(08:07):
I'm also Dutch, so it felt yeah, Van Poplin and
you're kind of wearing orange too. Yeah, I'm a little
on the nose right now. When shoes you can't see
them undernad came clogging in what is something you think
is underrated? This is interesting. I'm going to go out
there everybody I think underrated. Right now, I almost feel like,
(08:32):
because I did it overrated first, I feel like my
counter argument underrated exactly, So let's overrated. Let's overrate everyone
abusing and using. I think the concept in the term
like self care and this idea that I'm like, no, no, no, no,
(08:52):
like self care, I think ultimately, I think for your
average person who's not a spoiled brat, it's like bound
to reason, you know, if you like, if you're like
like a mom who is just like, oh my god,
like I need to ask my mom or friend to
come over for one hour to take care of these kids,
so like I can have an adult moment or whatever
(09:12):
where everyone else is like a self care going to
like brunch exactly, and it's all like for a lot
of people, it's escapism and money spending, you know. And
like I also think that, like because on the flip side,
I'm like, what's underrated is accountability, which is I think
the flip side of self care is like and I'm
(09:33):
sorry I'm going like deep on this, but but I'm
just like, you know what you need to do is
actually probably fix some of your fucked up persona and
problems which contribute to you constantly being like, got any
animal mouse that will wash this away? And I feel
like the ultimate person who has no accountability but constantly
does self care is once again Trump. It's just like,
(09:54):
oh God, like I left the government on fire, here
I come monologue self care. You know. Yeah, I feel
like self care is being like really co opted for
you know, once again like spoiled, pampered Instagram culture, and
uh yeah, I think more people need accountability in there. Yeah,
I think accountability to like it's a lot of people
deal in self delusion or it's easy to all the
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time sort of look externally at problems you're experiencing and
never even take a second to sort of look inward
and be like, am I contributing to this in any way?
Rather than the mentality of like, I mean, look at
all this ship around me. I need to self care
the funk out of myself, right. And it's like, I
think the term self care certainly came out of like
like the past two years of the presidency for some people,
(10:36):
they've been really activated into you know, the nuts. But
it's like, how about do not digest a never ending
flow of news cycle because like then, yeah, yeah, of course,
you feel like you need to coach it into its
self deprivation, you know, a tank or whatever, floating whatever.
But it's about moderating, like I think, monitoring, you know,
maybe modifying some of your behaviors. Like okay, here's an
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example self care. I told myself, you need a king
sized bed with a big Dutch blanket on it because
you're worth it. Because also, your boyfriend complained that the
dogs kick you guys all night long hog the bed
in your little queen bed. And the truth is, I
am sleeping in this king bed. I'm being kicked in
the head all night. I just scoot over from one
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side of my giant bed. Now, both of those assholes
following me, the truth is accountability. I need to get
them training and they need to like learn how to
not sleep with me and not scream through the night.
But I'm unwilling to have more than like two nights
of that girl. I was like, I gotta get a
king bed. And it's the same, it's the same problem,
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and it's like no, I it's like a joke with
my friends. Now where I'm like, yeah, I think I'm
really going to buckle down and get the dogs some training.
And then now I've got a bed I can't ever
remove from my house again because it's so big. I
think you need to break up with this guy. That's
what it's do You should have been training these dogs, right,
But I mean, yeah, I I think this is a
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very good point. You know, a lot of the people
who are the happiest are people who you know, live
for other people and are accountable to other people. And
like some of the poorest countries and the world have
like happyness ratings way higher than ours. And it's just
being around like family and having closed knit communities. And
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but you can't really monetize that, you know, you can't
sell it in America, and like things, that's just a
constant like lens that we should be viewing everything through,
is that the solutions that you're given on a day
to day basis in America are just like whatever the
best version of that is to sell as opposed to
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like what's actually good for you as what's available to
you externally, right well, right, And it's like, you know,
what's not sexy cognitive behavioral therapy, right, you know, and
what is sexy is like following some dumb lifestyle you know,
influencer on Instagram, right exact, Actually that sort of thing,
like I need a geometric ring exactly, and like I'm guilty,
(13:04):
I've got like weird. I bought a weird shaped water
This is the most embarrassing thing. I was just like,
up too late. Those Instagram ads got me. I bought
a flat water bottle you hold a little more like
a book, And like, I don't even know what state
of mind I was in, but I was like, this
is certainly a more chic way to move about the
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world carrying a water bottle. Thirty five dollars showed up
at my house and I was like, you're done, You're
cut off. Send this back now. This is so stupid.
And I was like taken in by like a different
tactile holding experience of the water bottle. I was like,
it's going to change god boy golf, you know, but
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like that, but you can keep it in a stack
of books, which you're always carrying around when you go
to class. Right, It was like, do I currently have
an issue storing a water bottle in my backpack? In
the in the little side thing that's already meant from
like for a water bottle, Like that laptop laptop slot
in my backpack is feeling empty. Oh, I'll put a
(14:05):
water bottle in there that is void. Fil uh. And finally,
what is a myth? What is something people think it's
true you know, to be false? Besides the one you
just busted for us? Yeah, totally. I I think it's
just interesting because I was thinking too, You're like, oh,
I'm not feeling well. And as much as I'm like, dude,
you just start taking some of that reginal oil, you know,
(14:25):
I do believe because I'm like, I just think it
burns all living organisms just out of your throat, good
and bad. At the creation juice place, I'll take that
wild shot. It's called like the cure or whatever. It's
just like raw garlic in ginger, which usually it helps
my throat a lot better. Anyway, I think it's just
(14:46):
like I've tried to pump the brakes on being so
over sold by this idea that, like all western medicine
is bad. Like, yeah, they're awful companies, they are self
serving doctors. But like this idea that people who pedal
completely unregular related vitamins aren't also a billion dollar industry
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who are just trying to sell you stuff, And I'm
like really trying. So it's not that like I debunked
it per se. It's just like I think everyone's going
super overboard again feeding into this like self care and
holistic and natural and it's like, dude, like their spraying
organic fields with stuff that's actually not on a list
of safe chemicals for humans to ingest as well, and
(15:29):
just because it qualifies under the standard of organic doesn't
mean it's good for you. So I just feel like
it's just like false choice. And while I don't have
the science to take down organics, um, I'm just being
I'm just asking more questions and asking, um, what are
people's motivations for wanting to like pedal you this stuff?
I mean, yeah, the goops of the world especially too, Right, dude,
(15:51):
you know what I did see, Like there's this interesting
like her and her like vaginal steaming. You know how
she brought that right Exactlyonia egg the vaginal steaming pots
that you sit over it and it literally has no
added benefit. You're like not supposed to miss with your
j j Alright, hold on, I'm going to break this
(16:12):
thing down then, because I've been sitting over for this
whole recording, and I was waiting, are you gonna man's
plain of vagina to me right now? Because hold on,
you gotta understand about the vagina here. You thought I
meant break it down. Yeah, you know, I was like
this vagina steamer that I've had under my chair for
(16:34):
this whole recording. The scroll steamer is very you know
what though, Like I don't have a problem with someone
steaming a scrot because it's an outer organ, you know,
which is takes well to be You're not really supposed
to get up in your stuff and clean it. You've
got a whole system in place, like you know. Also,
if I found out that the herbs that they put
(16:56):
in the vaginal steaming, had I gone and done it
followed this add one of them is mug wart, which
I am anaphylactically allergic, So I would have died and
gone into anaphylactic shock while squatting over a badge pot. Yeah,
and that is embarrassing stuff to put on your gravestone.
More embarrassing for Trump I died from. I know, Like
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in Italy there's a level of organic that they call
like bological or something where it's literally to qualify. Only
ship you can use is water and the sun, right,
and if you fucking add anything, they're like, yo, you
lost your license like anything, Like it's like enforced with
like law enforcement. And I'm like, why can't, Like we
are the people who are giving us that. But I
(17:43):
guess for the scale of like crops or whatever people
are growing here, I don't know, like you just have
to go to your farmer's market. I mean, my organic
fruit says biologic on it is that? Is it maybe
just a translation? I don't know. I don't know, We'll see.
I want to Consumer Reports really already was like where
do you get it? What is it? Brook? Stop? Stop? Alright, guys,
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let's talk about some things that are happening in the
zeitgeist right now. So I just wanted to This is
kind of a random one, but I think this is
one of the interesting details of the zegeist that I
always find myself paying attention to is how words filter
through the zeitgeist. And I've noticed myself actually wanting to
use the word wild as an adjective, like instead of
(18:27):
like crazy or some other thing about like something being
over the top, and then like I found myself using
it so much that I was like, all right, I
gotta stop using that. And then I noticed Alexandria Casio
Cortez use it in a tweet yesterday, and then I
woke up this morning, I had a my first news flash,
like on my phone head wild used as an adjective,
(18:49):
and Brooke, you have a theory on on where this
is coming from. I do, And I'm not trying to
name drop that I know and admire this person in particular,
but I really think like Nicole Buyer has been saying
this like for a long time. She's used it as
a hilarious adjective like I used to produce and direct her,
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like when she she do interviews on Girl Code, like
her Instagram descriptions have been you know, basically, she's used
the adjective wild for as long as I can remember
to basically describe how insane and racist people are in
her comments while being really funny about it. But she
said people are wild in these and she's been doing
it for a long time. I think she's like wild
(19:30):
as the New Yams, And you know, it's fun to
have an adjective and a descriptor different than crazy because
crazy is getting tired, right, and now it is sort
of like, oh well, it's like a gas lading word
toward women, or it's being disrespectful to anyone with mental
health struggles or whatever. Wild is like this feels fresh
(19:53):
off the tongue. I mean, I think it's just ebonics,
you know, essentially, because it's like a thing I hear.
I think it starts with wilding, you know, when they
were using that talk about teens, the problematic use of
it of like these black teenage like wilding, and then
that turns to wilding out to wild out or they
wild and then you get wild, and I think, yeah,
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it's like it's definitely a thing I've heard of hip hop,
but I feel it's one of those things that it
just reached the threshold where now just spilled over into
the general like American lexicon where you hear wild a lot.
But I think with also Jesus and Marrow too, they
probably use the word wild seven thousand times in episode
that Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, and it's and using
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it as the wild something like as a modifier too,
like something can be wild or you like I'm smoking
the wild l you know, like whatever it is, I'm
sure it's like all of these things, you know, like
it's all a bunch of contributing factors. And I think
many people are getting it from many dimensions. But plus, yeah,
I think wild and wild has been I think it's
must descend from wild, and I think it's also like
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right if you can use it in different areas of language.
It's sort of like I was in Hawaii and just
you just say like mahollow for everything, and it's like
a good cool thing or like you ever sees like
in the Netherlands, like a word like gazelli. You know,
it's just like good general feelings or whatever, or like
lequor just kind of means like every tasty, cute, nice whatever.
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You know. Wild, I think generally is kind of I
think it's a it's definitely attributing negative qualities to things
right now, like or things that are extra extra or negative.
I feel like it's kind of what that means. I
wonder it's also like a very good description of our
day to day lives. And you know, we have somebody
running the free world who seems to be governed by
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animal instincts and it keeps Yeah, it keeps hard news
cycle completely wild. I'm still sticking. I like, you know,
i know, crazy a little played out, So I prefer
crazes that or bonkers in bananas still stand bys are
a couple of my faves not as popular. Yeah, I mean,
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I'm gonna say, I'm thinking I was attributed to New York.
I have a feeling that's where it all started. Yeah,
big city where I mean, we get so much of
our slang from either drag queens or hip hop, and
a lot of this stuff we get from hip hops
coming from New York. But anyway, Yeah, this is a
wild segment where watching he'd be like, I've noticed myself
(22:26):
wanting to use the adjective's very delicious dish right exactly.
I don't know. I find it interesting. I want to
see if other people find it interesting and keeping eye up. Well,
when we hear like Corva Coleman doing like, you know,
like a wild next on, I think, just like the
(22:47):
way litt has also crossed a crossed the rubicon too. Yeah,
but yeah, that seems more like a new thing and
I understand why that is. Like it's like think kids
saying it just comes up the normal way that like
kind of hip catch phrases come up. But like wild
has been a thing my parents have said like for
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years and stuff, and I don't feel too old to
say there's like there's like a non agism with the word.
I feel like you see hippies save like man, that's wild. Yeah,
exactly far out. I know somebody probably wrote a dissertation
on the origins of wild and slang, so please please
hit us with that study. Yeah, and I mean the
(23:29):
vocal fry. One of the most interesting things I've heard
in the past couple of years was somebody tracing vocal
fry as it went from you know, valley girls in
the eighties too then just most women to now everyone
has like vocal fry or it's like you're talking about
it's like literally literally also another one. Anyways, we're gonna
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stop talking about this. We will take a quick break.
We'll be right back, and we're back. And Mark Zuckerberg,
who is a friend of mine, no so. Jack Dorrissey,
(24:15):
the founder of Twitter, was recently interviewed by Rolling Stone. Yeah,
and they said, what was your most memorable encounter with Zuckerberg?
And he was like, well, there was that year when
he was only eating what he was killing. He made
goat for me for dinner. He killed the goat. I
guess he kills it with a laser gun and then
the knife, so he I guess he used maybe a
(24:37):
stun gun is what he was talking. Yeah, then they
clarified they literally the way they's written in the article
as a laser gun. And he says, I don't know
a stun gun. They done it, and then he knifed it.
Then he knifed it like a prison shank, like what
you talking about, eight times in the chest. And then
they send it to a butcher. And I guess he
was saying, there's a rule in Paula Alto where you
(24:59):
can have six I've stuck on any lot of land.
So he was just cooking wild goats. But then this
is this is the part where it gets funny. So
Jack Jeory says to Mark Zuckerberg, I go, we're eating
the goat you killed. He said yeah. I said have
you eaten goat before? He's like yeah, I love it.
I'm like, what else are we having salad? I said,
where is the goat? It's in the oven. Then we
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waited for about thirty minutes. He's like, I think it's done.
Now we go in the dining room. He puts the
goat down. It was cold. That was memorable. I don't
know if he went back in the oven. I just
ate my salad. I pictured them like having that conversation,
and then thirty minutes later, like in that time that elapsed,
nobody said anything, right, They're just sitting there like, I mean,
I believe it doesn't the sound of forks scraping on,
(25:42):
just pushing around the same piece of goat. But he's
loving it, like Mark Walbers is using his hands. It's
a it's a yeah, what I call Walberg Mark Waller.
I got them confused. Delicious goat Um. Yeah, him just
bare hand eating the goat and oh it's more sucking
(26:04):
than even I could have hoped. So this is something
that I knew he was planning to do. He like
made it a big New Year's resolution at the beginning
of the year on Facebook he was only going to
eat stuff that he killed, and yeah, for a whole year.
And you know, that was sort of a wave for
a little bit that like people are butchering their own meat.
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It for you if you have the stomach for it.
But with him, he's not butchering. He's knocking stuff out
and then knifeing it. So technically he could find himself
like a hamburger pre made down the street, stun it,
knife it, and then he's like, I killed it. Yeah,
what you're doing is not the actual butchery. You're just
so I get the idea behind it. Like I think
(26:48):
maybe if he had gone more with what you guys
were talking about with like one day of just try
it for one day, because then you're you have the
sense of like, Okay, this is what it is to
take another thing life like, and you're not outsourcing the
guilt because you have that guilt on your consciousness. But
if you're doing it for a full year and you're
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constantly doing it, like you're just getting better at it
and like more callous, you're just about killing. You're practicing
to or whatever it is. Sorry, this isn't like it
is to me less barbaric to just be a sharpshooter.
One shot to the animal, kill with the gun and
then butcher it. So you can understand like what it
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takes and what a lot of other communities and cultures
do where you using the whole animal, Like there's something
so murdering versus killing that he's like perfect, especially when
it's described as he stuns it and then he knifed it.
The Snodiac killer. You know what, You're just like what?
But I mean, if any anybody who's heard the smoked
(27:51):
meats cut up of his when he debuted Facebook live
by like introducing or inviting people into his back yard
for some smoked meats, you know that he's a totally
normal person who I think we have a just quick
clip of that. The wood chips up and then smoking meats, grilling,
grilling meats, good smoky flavor. Smoke a brisket for like
(28:13):
twelve hours. You smoke lemon, chicken, smoke salmon. You'll love it.
Bison ribs and sausage because I'm looking forward to to that.
They taste doubly better when, um, when you hunted the
animal yourself. So what do you guys making brisk and ribs?
I hope delicious sweet baby raised barbecue sauce that is
going on the ribs. Okay, just stop, I can't get
(28:35):
behind sweet baby raised barbecue sauce. You fucking lame basic barbecue. Yes,
it's a you'll look. He also says sweet baby raised
like twenty times, like it's some ship he just had
flown in or something. Right, it's the number one ingredient
in that barbecue sauces corn syrup. Yeah, it's not good.
(28:58):
And I guess for me, like my grandfather, he's he's
a great barbecue grilled person, and I always grew up
with like learning how to make your own barbecue sauce.
You sounds like a real barbecue head barb barbecue. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I don't. I don't know, come fucking smoker, I mean,
uh yo, real talk though, when the Raiders were in
(29:19):
l A, my grandfather catered all their motherfucking practices. Oh yeah,
because the raiders were like, I don't eat Warns barbecue. Yo.
He used to do Ronnie Lott's turkey. He did our
shells turkey for for Thanksgiving. Okay, so take the coolest anyway.
So when I hear sweet baby raised, like, I man,
I get angry at people if they like they're like, hey,
(29:41):
we're gonna have some ribs and stuff and they have
sweet baby raised, I feel like I need to call
the barbecue police on well, like that's that the thing
that I find creepy about his practice of killing his
own meat. Is that, like so back in biblical times,
like there were animal sacrifices where you would have a
pet essentially that you raised and you like loved, and
then you would sacrifice it to the gods and eat
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that and like that's a thing where you actually have
a connection and you respect the life of the thing there.
But he's eating like a modern American. He's eating as
much meat as we eat. He's just killing it all.
He's just murdering the ship out of it and then
putting terrible barbecue sauce on it like a normal American.
Like it's it's just a serial killer approach to you know,
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I gotta work my way up to human man. I'm sorry.
I wonder if he was really like showing off towards
the end of the year, like you say, like he
was getting good at it. And he's like, I'll fucking
I'll tape the knife to the ground right here, and
I'll it's gonna fall right on the fucking knife, dude,
right right. Yeah, I'm thinking of the most dangerous game. Now.
He's like, let's lure a bunch of friends to an Island.
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I can just picture his face as he like makes
the kill and just like the I don't know, yeah,
it's yeah, like as a face or just picture picture
that a lot. I'm sorry that Mark. I have a
feeling it's like a version of what an alien thinks
it would have to do to face, where it's like
oh yes, oh thank you, all right. Yesterday i'm TTZ.
(31:16):
We talked about Trump claiming in a letter to Nancy
Pelosi that there were no security concerns with putting the
entire line of command of our entire nation, of each
single room without a remotely fully staffed security service. So
Nancy Pelosi responded to that by saying, you can't do
it here. I mean, you can do it wherever, wherever
you want. You don't have to go home, but you
(31:37):
can't stay here, basically, and Trump proved he is the
negotiator in chief by totally buckling immediately. It was just like, okay,
I guess I won't do it. Okay, I'll do it
from the hobby lobby parking line, right. And it's interesting
because you know, I like to keep an eye on Drudge,
and there is one conservative columnist who's like, yeah, Trump's
(31:59):
winning this negotiation. But you really don't get first of all,
the whole like delaying the state of the Union story
just disappeared the second he agreed to it. They do
not want the appearance of weakness. They don't want the headline.
Nancy Pelosi flexes dick on Trump's head. Homeboy just takes
(32:20):
his home right, just sort of like Mom made me
come home, just sort of Mom made you know, cancel
my party. Yeah, well, I just think he didn't, like,
he has not worked on any other tactics or plans
now that you know she's the house speaker. Like he
has just no idea because all of those tactics worked
(32:40):
when the power was in you know, the GOP. And
it's just like, oh, this is a woman who's just
like Noah, Yeah, he was really bad at this game
on like super easy mode and now it just like
went to hard mode and he doesn't really know how
to deal. And you see the cracks in like when
you have been able to surround yourself with everyone who's
(33:02):
a yes man and a stooge and and you were
just so quickly exposed for not actually being good at
anything when you're actually being you know, checked right, and
you have some adversity. So he's losing Republicans like Corey Gardner,
who is a Senator who is Colorado from Colorado, who
says he will vote for a clean spending bill that
(33:23):
doesn't have anything about the wall security or building of
the wall, and just is funds the government for a
while independent of Trump's negotiating tactics. And meanwhile, the top
story on Fox News, So the way Fox News covered
this was, well, here's some other state of the unions
that were delayed or didn't happen at all. So no
(33:44):
big deal, guys, nothing to see here. Hey, look at
this number one politics story. So the number one story
on their political page is Lindsay Graham zings Occasio Cortes
says she's hell ben on making Americans live as Venezuelan socialists.
That's the best they can come up with, is just that. God,
they are so obsessed with Why are you so obsessed
(34:05):
with me? Yeah? I mean they I love that. Their
pivot is like fucking something about AOC getting zing. Yeah
she said a mean thing about her. They again, it
just shows you sort of the lack of real substantive
things they can actually get around to motivate their base
that they just have to go back to like playground stuff.
(34:26):
Well that, yeah, and that's essentially what it is. It's
just sort of like we have such a big crush
on her, so we're going to throw rocks at her
head because like we don't understand how to negotiate. We
also are just immature and terrible privileged. You know, wasps
been in power for a long time, and we again
like have not had women who are younger, women of color,
(34:47):
women of different generations telling us what to do and
calling our ship like it's they it's wild because now
like that millennials are entering the political sphere like in waves.
Now they're starting to see like, yeah, hi, we're piste
off because you guys racked up all of this death
for who for what? So I could pay for the
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bill and have like everything else unavailable to me in
terms of like things like an education or home ownership
and things like that. Okay, well here it comes, and
we're not so irrationally scared of communism because we didn't
grow up during the Cold War, so we will take
better lives over being called. When you're thinking about this too,
(35:28):
it's like now you've got this huge generational divide, Like
it's really going from people in their eighties to people
who are thirty years old, you know, like Katie Hills,
like thirty one, and they've got the same job description.
And it's sort of like you getting to call your
grandparents ship and it's like you're like, we all work
together now and the ship you've done, You're like, wow,
this is how you're running it. Ship RAMPI. We gotta
(35:51):
put you in a home, like your office stinks washing.
That's always a tough time when like ship's starts just
falling apart. Dishes are like, let's talk Venezuela real quick, guys.
It was really dark for you. Yes, sorry man, hey man,
(36:11):
we all have we all have aging family members. It's
trying to realize it's unavoidable. Yeah, so Venezuela is an
absolute ship show. Huh yep, moving on all right. Uh No. Actually,
back at Cracked, a couple of years ago, we interviewed
a dude who lived in their capital city and like
a nice, you know, single family home, middle class neighborhood,
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and they were starving to the point that he had
to use a machetean crossbow to fight off like looters
who were trying to steal the mangoes out of his
two mango trees because everybody, like nobody had any other
way of feeding themselves. It was just it was like
zombie apocalypse style, just crazy shit going on, like the
(36:54):
society was dissolving and turns out that's not super sustainable,
the zombie waste land occrecy or whatever. And after a
highly disputed election where the incumbent managed to win highly disputed,
let's just say, a sham fun election, Uh, there is
now a leadership crisis. The US has backed uh gentleman
(37:17):
with the last name Gwaido, and Russia is back in
Maduro who is the current leader and architect of all
this bullshit, And yeah, it's not going well right. Russia
yesterday threatened America that, you know, don't intervene militarily or
there will be hell to pay and a blood back,
(37:41):
Yeah something blood. I think they mentioned blood in particular,
which that's maybe means something else in Russian. Yeah, probably,
But yeah, I mean, like look when you look at
sort of what's gone down, what Bundura has been doing,
you know, he basically stacked their Supreme court with his
own people who then like used their power or from
the judiciary to strip as much power and influence from
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the National Assembly, and then from there it just got
worse and worse and worse and worse, and you know,
it's it's it's a weird situation that the U S
is in because, yeah, there are other countries who also
support Guido or recognize him as the interim president or
you know, the leader for now. The other countries that don't,
they're also in the game two turkeys also, like what
(38:24):
we bang with Maduro Bolivia, I think Mexico is also
in the same boat. But it's a very you know,
it's a weird situation because now what we're looking at
is like, what are we going to start sucking around
in Central and South America again, you know, because that
doesn't resonate very well with the people down there. Up
so it's a very, very delicate situation. I don't know
(38:45):
how Maduro is going to resign because he does have
the military backing him, and they back him because they're
able to make money and he's able to keep them
comfortable based on the way, you know, he's sort of
just gutting the country, so is always going to be
people with the incentive to keep the current power structure
in placing. Usually those will be very powerful people already.
(39:08):
So uh yeah, it's it's a mess. There does seem
to be this sort of global divide between like countries
who have embraced Western civilization and then Russia and you know,
those who embrace corruption and autocracy and you know, all
the all that ship. And it just feels weird that
(39:30):
we're backing the side that Trump would clearly not sideways.
That's what I'm just I'm like catching up on some
of these headlines, and I'm like, this, does he seems
more aligned with Maduro? Right right? You know, every instinct
that we've come to see from him would seem to
suggest that he would identify with Maduro. Well, I'm I'm
pulling this quote right here from a New York Times
(39:52):
article with Maduro claimed, I am the only president of Venezuela. Mr.
Maduro said, we do not want to return to the
twentieth century of Ringo interventions in Kutta. Yeah, You're like,
that's so trumpy. Yeah, yeah, well that's I mean, he's
still the US though, you know, that's the regime change
has been a thing that the us likes to fun.
Yeah and so, and like, also you have Marco Rubio
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at here. He's definitely been one of the most vocal
opponents of Maduro in the Senate. So I don't know,
maybe this is a way for them to create a
like false tension with Russia. You see, you see what's
going on. If I was really with with Putin, I
would be like yeah Maduro all day. But I'm guide, oh,
you know, it's as thinking about that. It's also interesting
(40:34):
to me that it's like, hey, Trump, you know, I know,
we America gets involved in global relations, but it's like,
how about we focus on like the meddling that we
won't admit to you in America and like not now
I know, I mean, I know, I know, I know.
But it's like we're meddling when we won't pay attention
(40:55):
to our own country being like very meddled with it.
It's just a meddling of our own you know, me, yeah,
meddler on the roof. But he's a real bet meddler there.
We I mean again, just the other thing, just when
looking at Venezuela, I mean, it is a it's a
real legit humanitarian crisis because I think three million people
(41:15):
have left in the last few years and people are
starving today. Yes, and that is also like it has
a destabilizing effect on everything else. So this isn't a
thing that can be ignored either. But yeah, trying to
walk down the path of like, oh well, if he's
not going to resign, do we then physically remove it?
That's where we start. Also, like our governments shut down
(41:36):
right now, you know, and it's just like why take
any vote of confidence from the US at this point. Either,
it's just like here, let us help out. Our country
is on fire. It's just you know, it's just it's
just a little brostrongly complicated situation for a functioning government
to do with. Right, we do not have one of those.
(41:57):
So it's interesting because we've all so seen that Trump
likes to use foreign policy as a distraction. So this
has been another story to smoke bomb the news cycle
with to get people talking about like, oh god, Venezuela,
Like what are we gonna do? Like, oh, yeah, maybe
Trump is right about this one thing, very in a
very myotic sense. Yeah, I mean, but like you said,
(42:17):
there is a humanitarian crisis there. But there has been
a humanitarian crisis there since you know that dude was
fighting bandits off from his mango tree three years ago,
and this is the first we're saying anything about it.
So all right, we're gonna take a quick break. We'll
be right back. And we're back. And there's been some
(42:46):
interesting statements coming out of Washington with regards to people
who are furloughed and can't feed their family. Yeah, because
the GLP, I mean, not that they ever really gave
a funk about regular other people, but I mean the
shutdown is really underlining this fact that it's a party
of rich boomers baby boomers who only surround themselves with
(43:10):
rich boomers who only give a funk about rich white boomers.
And that's it. And from a policy level, they say, oh,
we love the troops, we on other troops. Then how
come the Coastguard brass are in videos nearly violating their
agreements of not having politically charged statements of being like
we have to open the government. This is a disgrace.
I have people working that are not being paid, They're
(43:32):
having to go to food banks. What is this, like,
why are we doing this? What is going on here?
And again you think for all the ship that's talking
about supporting the troops oron troops, people who are in
the military and any kind of armed forces or military service.
We're not doing right by them. Republicans constantly talk about,
you know, if you want to make America great again,
not in the you know sense of just you know,
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brown people knowing their place and white people being the
exalted part of the community or population, and actually rebuilding
the middle class or trying to get that foothold when
you could have a job, any job, and support a family.
But yet all we see our tax cuts to the wealthy.
And now with this shutdown, like we're at that point
where it is the it's the painful part of the
(44:16):
shutdown has landed on the shores. Before it was easy
to obscure, like an eight day shutdown. Yeah, usually the
news story during a shutdown is the national parks are
closed because like tourists can't go to the national parks.
But now that it's a record breaking shutdown, that people
(44:36):
have missed two paychecks, Yes, well you missed too paychecks.
And then I'm also thinking of dead of winter for
certain parts of this country, where like that means power
shut off, that also means anything to not paying my mortgage,
and now we're talking of people starting to destroy credit.
That's already like you're not set up for success in
this country to begin with. Like it's having real implications
(44:59):
and real effects on people, and like we thought the
only headline for a minute that was going to get
anyone's attention was lessened safety at airports, and it's like, no,
it's it's becoming more than that. Most people can't miss
one pay day. Now they're going on to full cycles
of not getting their paycheck. And that is just so
unrealistic when the average household does not have savings for
(45:21):
emergency because we don't pay enough people a living wage.
And then so when you're already working on that pay
scale and then now you're not getting paid, what are
I don't what are you supposed to do? Because I
think you know. It just shows again this disconnect that
the Party has with actual America, not just the rhetorical
version where it's like, well, we're on the same team
(45:41):
in the culture war, rather than the human beings who
have to get their ass out of bed, go to
a job, put in time, come back and have money
to be able to support your family or you know,
stimulate the economy or whatever, but first and foremost to
just survive. And I mean they've been relying on the
culture war thing so much that they've been able to
(46:01):
just get completely out of touch with the rest of America,
right and at this point to like when you go
back to what in most voters want, you know that
there is like basic human decency for a living wage,
you know, some sort of access to healthcare. So now, um,
I've also heard another effect too is people who have
(46:22):
like government funded um rehab recovery, like where they need
their treatment and medications for the opioid crisis that's happening,
people can't get their treatment. So now we've also got
the possibility of people who are making headway with this
like manufactured drug crisis now backsliding and not having anyone
to lean on. I mean, people are flooding. There's no
(46:43):
room for anyone to go get the medication they need
to get out of this hellhole. Right, So then, uh,
you know Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross does Yeah, yeah, Okay, Well,
I mean and I don't even know. I mean, this
guy is looks like someone who like held onto the
ring of power for too long. You know what I mean,
(47:04):
Like he looks so he's from another like literally from
another time and dimension where he goes on CNBC when
they asked him about the shutdown and like the economy,
he's like, look, if you actually take you know, eight
thod people, and why does I feel bad for them? Uh?
And we're the money we're talking about here is only
a fraction of one person of the GDP, So you know,
(47:25):
there's it's just a blip and it's not it's not
anything real because but he because he doesn't know anybody
who's a working person. So then the host on c
NBC is like, what it's like, I'm not talking about
the g DP. Like what I'm talking about people who
like actually have real they are real world ramifications for
this bullshit. And this is what he says. That's the secondary.
(47:47):
There are reports that there are some federal workers who
are going to homeless shelters to get food. Well, I
know they are, and I don't really quite understand why because,
as I mentioned before, the the obligations that they would undertake,
say a borrowing from the bank or a credit union,
are in effect federally guaranteed. So the thirty days of
(48:12):
pay that some people will be out. There's no real
reason why they shouldn't be able to get a loan
against it. I'm sorry, I'm what I was asleep? What
the fuck is he talking about? Yeah? I mean that
is basically the most almost literal translation of let them
(48:35):
eat cake, like into financial terms of just like a
hundred millionaire being like, why don't you go get alone
against all the equity you have? I okay? He And
this is just what's so fucking just disturbing, right, is
(48:56):
that they're at the levers at the moment. Not to
say that Democrats also don't have an anti working people
agenda to on some level, but like when you have
the segretive of commerce, so this just astronomically out of
touch with reality that he's like, I don't understand you
just get a loan from your uncle, dip into the
(49:16):
money on your shell company? What are you're lucky penny loafers?
You should have put an old T bond in there
for ten dollars you can go like what is again?
It's just very very sad to see, and I feel
like Democrats have to hammer this into people's heads going
(49:37):
to They're like they have seeded their position as a party.
That just that gives just any kind of a funk
about people. Absolutely, I mean, like their whole thing. They're
all lockstep just for this fucking wall at this cost.
And I think that's why some people, I think, you know,
people like Corey Gardner who are Republican senators, are starting
to come around because they're like, this is fun, this
(49:59):
is fucked. And also I'm worried about his election too,
but you know, but yeah, generally there is no it's
just numbers, statistics. They don't care about actual stories and individuals.
But the whole not letting someone have a paycheck because
you're having to fight. It's like the optics are just
they're not gonna they're not gonna win out on the
GOP side. They just aren't. And as much as Trump
(50:21):
and the GOP want to try, and you know, these
mealy mouth sort of like we're putting an offer on
the table that's just so ridiculous. But especially when it's
like you are the one who took away you know,
DACA citizenship and you're gonna give it back for a
few years, Like that's wild. Oh my god, Well that's
how I feel. That's word. But um, I just don't
(50:41):
think the rhetoric that the Democrats have been giving every
opportunity to open the government, it's just not working. When
they just voted on some legislation to help that and
they failed, so they knew it would And maybe people
are saying, maybe this will be a beginning, the first
step to getting something together that will pass. But the
first step should have been like people not being cool
(51:03):
with weaponizing a shutdown as a fucking chess piece in
your in your your legislative game. Yeah, that's hold the
American middle class Americans hostage. So an Arab pisson contest. Yeah, yeah,
uh well, speaking of the middle of America. Yeah, Costco
has a plan. They might be stepping into the streaming arena.
(51:27):
Is Yeah, so this media exact. Mark Greenberg apparently has
been shopping an idea around for like a Netflix that
speaks to the forgotten American. You know, the people in
fly Over Country in the Midwest that don't have the
taste for hoity toity shows like Stranger Things or Homecoming
or The Ranch. You know what I mean, people the
(51:48):
Ranches that was made for people who don't like don't
phone black mirror anyway, so Greenberg was working with Walmart
on something like on a very similar thing because you know,
they're like, we need a team up with a brand
that like Middle America inherently just trusts and will not
think about the destruction of mom and pop stores. They
(52:12):
feel like, you're Walmart is good. But then Walmart is like,
now I think we're all in on Voodoo, that page
streaming platform. I think they have something to do the voodoo.
So they passed on it. Yes, So now Greenberg is
talking with Costco because that's sort of like the other
very familiar brand to anyone in America, but also Walmart.
Also Walmart's arts nemesis. So just thinking of like, yes,
(52:33):
get into this, because I think a lot of it
has to do with the idea that Netflix. They feel
like there's been Although there has been huge subscriber growth,
it's happening in like other countries. The subscription growth in
the US is starting to kind of flatten out, and
I think that is where these people say like, oh, okay,
so they've done peak coastal urban or like metropolitan market penetration,
(52:55):
but what about these other states? Like what about these
other places? Is there is there another market that we're
just not tapped into. So I don't know what kind
of programming that they have will be. Maybe it'll be
you know, more Mike Huckabee specials. Uh the leather Special
with Mike Huckabee. Oh yeah, we need to get we
need to get back to tried huck I tried watching
it and I've almost had a fucking meltdown because we
(53:18):
were watching Mike Huckabee show last week and punching up
some of his jokes. Did you know he has a
late night show now I would Uh, well, I told
you I just stopped drinking. So I don't think I
should watch it on more on solid selfcare is actually
not watching that like and I mean that, but yeah,
I think that's where the market is where they still
(53:40):
feel that. And I think, you know, there was like
a study where a majority of people, like in Middle
America felt that the media does not actually functionally understand
how they live or what their life is like for sure.
And I interesting thesis. I mean, because CBS has an audience, right,
and CBS is one of the networks that kind of
caters to more Middle American viewers. But you know, there's
(54:03):
not CBS doesn't have some like great streaming platform or
something that they're that they're getting people to buy into. No,
and I mean, like I I was on a show
for a couple of years that just got canceled this week.
It's okay, but like True TV is also kind of
like the high quality network that like I'm sorry, it's
like Middle America watches True t V what they're doing
(54:27):
in my mind where I'm like, I feel like Adam
Conover show, which is so great, like people really enjoy it.
But I think he's about like where Middle America tops out,
just because he's like debunking things and you know, and
he's got an ascot on and whatever, and like I
love all that about Adam and but I think that's
who watches TV. Yeah, yeah, No, it's an interesting thesis.
It'll be interesting to see if if Costco has the
(54:49):
stomach for it. Kirkland though, you know, look they got
their their shine in baskets, right, So Costco I've already
entered the media sphere. That's the true time starting with
Louis Anderson buy Kirkland everything. My god, I mean, it
is beloved everywhere Costco. Honestly, I might if it was
called Kirkland Flicks or some ship. I would be like,
(55:12):
I kind of have to see here. Have you guys
ever had a Kirkland signature Hangover? Yes, what do they have? Oh?
Just a big bottle of like silver tequila. Like it's
like if you're throwing, you know, a big get together,
you do not shell out for top you know top brands.
You go to Costco and making it just a different bottle.
(55:33):
Possibly that I am responsible. Hangover disagrees. Yeah, I love
the light beer. We call Kirkland spicies, but they're just
Kirkland light beer. It's so aggressively generic. Unit price comes
out to about forty eight cents a can. Yeah, get
that Kirkland light just swill beer. Well, Broke, it has
been a pleasure having you. Thank you. Where can people
(55:56):
find you on Twitter? B VP comedy. I'm sometimes active,
sometimes very silent. It ebbs and flows. You know what
I've got the emotional capacity. Instagram is Brooke at brook
vie p and Sidework podcast is at side Work podcast
and hopefully iTunes will on board us. Well we'll get
(56:19):
to the bottom of them. Thank you. Will you send
your people, I'll talk to my people over there. Thank you.
Is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Well, okay, I'll
say this. It's a little timely something that made me
L O L really really hard. On Tuesday, after a
group of us who all just stand up comedy found
out that very very talented and amazing Kevin Barnett had
(56:41):
passed very tragically and suddenly UM this comedy club in
New York City, which I am also not a fan of,
broke the news of his death, and it's well known
that Kevin does not like performing there, you know, didn't
really love the proprietors per se, and our friend Nick Turner,
who's the best, tweeted Kevin hated the stand just like yeah,
(57:06):
just within hours of you know, it was just like
someone needed some comic relief. And it's always a weird
thing to be like what do we say and how
do we make light of this? Because we are all
comedians but this is so nuts and you know, but
that was just such like, oh, God, comedies a savior sometimes,
you know. Miles, where can people find? You find me?
(57:26):
Follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. Uh.
Couple of tweets I like. One is from James Fritz
at Fritz is dead, it says, um. Actually, there's a
third firefest stock that shows the rich maggoteenes helping the
people on the island. I love Fritzy. Uh. And then
another one is from Reductress, as usually says, did you
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know your nipple is the same size as your butt hole?
I know because I've tried it like this, very this woman,
like this really confident look on her faces. They are indestructible.
Doctress is the best thing right now on Twitter, just
cranking out the his. I mean, I've nearly every episode
of my I'm always shotting out the Reductress writing staff tweet.
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I enjoyed at Libya Liberty tweeted, uh, Liberty, liberty. A
terrorist plot was uncovered thanks to a New York citizen
who saw something and said something. But there won't be
as much media interest about the story as you'd expect.
And then she's replying to a Slate story four young
men arrested and charged an apparent terrorist plot against Muslim
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community and up stating York. But yeah, you didn't see
that and reported very many places. Uh. And then I
have to give it out to a former guest. Vanessa written,
she tweeted my firefest was my ninth birthday where no
one showed up because my mom forgot to mail out
the invitation but said that she did, and I took
turns hitting the pinata by myself. Well how do you
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take turns? Hinted by yourself? Like you rested right? All right?
So now so your next thank you for her birthdays
coming up in February. Find out her then hit her up. Yeah,
let's send her to Firefest. Yes, you can find me
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in today's episode, as well as the song we ride
out on miles what's that going to be? Uh? This
is a song from Yamazaki Huckle, which is a Japanese
vocalist from back in the day. Uh. And this song
in sort of phonetic cottak on us written as ahead
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of me help me because we need help right now. Uh.
And also it's just a very very nice movie song
for this week. Alright, guys, have a great weekend. We're
going to ride out on that. We will be back
on Monday when you fucking gets done. You got my
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Cheeta Oya made it, and that you just give you
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give all, Gondy to give all and
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and a hole. A thank you to Tyler Olton for
that soul second ray, guys, we're some losers, baby, that's
why we are podcasters. Okay, so that is from Tyler
Olton again. Yes, a spincter says at the speaker, says,
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what thank you? You don't beck uh shout out scientology? Yeah, yeah,
shout out sychology. Indeed, we were shout to the Golden suicides. Yeah.
Do you think he gets his talent from side of course? Yeah?
I mean that's why term cruiselets of it. I mean,
does Beck like Beck ad time traveling with his face Lee? No,
(01:31):
I think I think that's particularly to Thomas. I think
you have to be yeah to look back at Okay,
but we are thrown to be joined in our third
seat by the hilarious comedian, actor and writer Van Poplin.
I'm here, it's Van Poplin. Off it is there we go,
(01:53):
everyone get Poplin and Laughlin past good so good are
you from? I'm from the Detroit Verbs from Michigan going
back and Lackland. Um, yeah, from the Verbs in Detroit. Uh.
Lived in Chicago for a little bit after that my
(02:13):
comedy career started. Yeah, I did like Second City ioh
began stand up She still questioning that choice and uh yeah.
Then did New York City for a decade and now
I've been here about three and I don't know about
l A still. I like the what do you think?
I mean? I like some cool adult things sort of
(02:35):
were able to happen for me here, but I don't.
I don't know, it's a whole thing. I was like,
I'm listen. I decided to stop drinking two days ago.
Everyone else did, like you know, dry January was like
funk that ship. And then I I was like, I
choose my own weird date. So I'm like starting dry
January three. So maybe February my goal is a month.
(02:57):
We'll see. But yeah, it's just I feel I think
it's a lot of people say after they've moved here
from New York City, like just kind of lost, don't
know my place. There are very people vastuely different styles
of cities. Yeah, but I'm determined, Like this is the
year where I was like, I just want to like
put it out there. Like you guys, you don't know
what it means to be invaded to a podcast. It
was really excited to get in a car and drive somewhere.
(03:20):
So thank you. I've been here almost ten years and
I feel like I'm just now getting out of that phase.
But I am a severe introverts greatly slowed my progress,
So I'm sure you're gonna be fun. No, you know,
but I was, I was like, you know, what will
get me really on the map is like starting my
own podcast. I'm like I'm home even more now, like
(03:44):
what's your podcast. It's called sidework podcast Sork. It's all
we're all a former service industry or current waitresses dish
in about that side food and restaurant that nobody gives
us any glory, you know. So almost everyone's been a
waiter or server at some point in their life or
it's now been posited by Ellen DeGeneres and also our
(04:06):
girl Sandy B. Bullock that she's like, everyone should wait
tables one day of their life to understand what it's
like to be able to multitask wait on someone else.
We nominated President Trump is the person who needs to
wait tables one day of his life more than anyone.
He would argue with all the customers, Yeah you didn't
your food, what was wrong with it? Okay, well it
(04:27):
was a Trump steak because steaks. Uh. We played a
game where we were there's this hashtag called server life,
which is really funny if you've been a server, it's
like they're on the job, just tables they hate in
the moment. And so we played a game, um where
we were all tweeting as Trump as a waiter, like
hashtag server life, and he was just like totally in
(04:48):
the weeds, right, now basically because I reported half the
kitchen staff too. Ice s my fault, right right, server life,
Server Life. Yeah, that or at least work off tips
just to Yeah, that'll definitely put your mind at in
the zone. Yes, it sure will. So anyways, we just
got rejected by iTunes. I think because so we'll have
(05:10):
to talk to you guys for some help or something. Yeah,
we got I did everything all the thing, and I
think it's because I forgot to turn on the explicit
content in SoundCloud. So I resubmitted. But I was like,
we're not like the We're not like the Hitler Youth podcast.
Like you know, I'm looking now and it looks like
it might be the graphic nudity in your logo. Maybe yeah,
(05:34):
I'm just about Yeah. No, one day is exactly how
long I lasted as a waiter. I was very bad
at it, very shaky hands. Oh no, pouring water all
over good? Sure it is product. All right, brok, We're
(05:54):
you gonna get to know you a little bit better
in a moment. First, we're telling our listeners a few
of the things we're talking about. We're gonna talk about
Mark Zuckerberg's meat obsession and how he kills that meat.
We're gonna talk about the State of the Union address
being delayed and just how the the right is dealing
with the idea that maybe the negotiator in chief isn't
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that good at negotiating. We're gonna talk about Venezuela being
an absolute shit show, all of that and plenty moore.
But first, Brooke, we like to ask our guest, what
is something from your search history that's revealing about who
you are? Well, God, I don't know. I feel like
I already blew that up at the top. I was like,
it is just nonstep searches, Like why did our it
tunes reject me? Why can't I have a podcast? Um?
(06:39):
I was like really going through it and I was like,
it's just like this and then seamless, and then I
was really Then I was also researching Dutch Wool mid
century modern blankets, So there we are. Everybody Dutch Wool
because they're so fucking rad. You get that ship up,
(07:00):
They're so cool, like, especially if you look on Etsy.
I kind of got a little absist. I really love
interior decor, but not spending a ton of money on it.
They're these old vintage blankets that you throw over a
nice new bed and they just are one of a kind.
And I keep waking up with like wiry pieces of
(07:21):
wool in my eyeball. But but my room looks so good. Really,
I'll show you a picture. Actually, I'll just whatever. We
can talk. This is like, there's nothing against pulling up
a photo just while you're cad casting. I got the
best one, we'll say. It's not when you cuddle with
on the couch. You'd like put that to secure all
the heat. Oh yeah, okay, living that mid century modern dream, right,
(07:46):
but it also like it looks like an alpaca living
on my bed. And uh, but the dogs love it.
They feel like they're in like a wolf den, just
like being cudd and it's good for exfoliating this yeah, anyway,
and the eyeballs. Yeah, but that was just a weird
recent You know, you're welcome et. See if you get
a bump with your Dutch well, you know, blanket sails.
(08:07):
I'm also Dutch, so it felt yeah, Van Poplin and
you're kind of wearing orange too. Yeah, I'm a little
on the nose right now. When shoes you can't see
them undernad came clogging in what is something you think
is underrated? This is interesting. I'm going to go out
there everybody I think underrated. Right now, I almost feel like,
(08:32):
because I did it overrated first, I feel like my
counter argument underrated exactly, So let's overrated. Let's overrate everyone
abusing and using. I think the concept in the term
like self care and this idea that I'm like, no, no, no, no,
(08:52):
like self care, I think ultimately, I think for your
average person who's not a spoiled brat, it's like bound
to reason, you know, if you like, if you're like
like a mom who is just like, oh my god,
like I need to ask my mom or friend to
come over for one hour to take care of these kids,
so like I can have an adult moment or whatever
(09:12):
where everyone else is like a self care going to
like brunch exactly, and it's all like for a lot
of people, it's escapism and money spending, you know. And
like I also think that, like because on the flip side,
I'm like, what's underrated is accountability, which is I think
the flip side of self care is like and I'm
(09:33):
sorry I'm going like deep on this, but but I'm
just like, you know what you need to do is
actually probably fix some of your fucked up persona and
problems which contribute to you constantly being like, got any
animal mouse that will wash this away? And I feel
like the ultimate person who has no accountability but constantly
does self care is once again Trump. It's just like,
(09:54):
oh God, like I left the government on fire, here
I come monologue self care. You know. Yeah, I feel
like self care is being like really co opted for
you know, once again like spoiled, pampered Instagram culture, and
uh yeah, I think more people need accountability in there. Yeah,
I think accountability to like it's a lot of people
deal in self delusion or it's easy to all the
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time sort of look externally at problems you're experiencing and
never even take a second to sort of look inward
and be like, am I contributing to this in any way?
Rather than the mentality of like, I mean, look at
all this ship around me. I need to self care
the funk out of myself, right. And it's like, I
think the term self care certainly came out of like
like the past two years of the presidency for some people,
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they've been really activated into you know, the nuts. But
it's like, how about do not digest a never ending
flow of news cycle because like then, yeah, yeah, of course,
you feel like you need to coach it into its
self deprivation, you know, a tank or whatever, floating whatever.
But it's about moderating, like I think, monitoring, you know,
maybe modifying some of your behaviors. Like okay, here's an
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example self care. I told myself, you need a king
sized bed with a big Dutch blanket on it because
you're worth it. Because also, your boyfriend complained that the
dogs kick you guys all night long hog the bed
in your little queen bed. And the truth is, I
am sleeping in this king bed. I'm being kicked in
the head all night. I just scoot over from one
(11:19):
side of my giant bed. Now, both of those assholes
following me, the truth is accountability. I need to get
them training and they need to like learn how to
not sleep with me and not scream through the night.
But I'm unwilling to have more than like two nights
of that girl. I was like, I gotta get a
king bed. And it's the same, it's the same problem,
(11:40):
and it's like no, I it's like a joke with
my friends. Now where I'm like, yeah, I think I'm
really going to buckle down and get the dogs some training.
And then now I've got a bed I can't ever
remove from my house again because it's so big. I
think you need to break up with this guy. That's
what it's do You should have been training these dogs, right,
But I mean, yeah, I I think this is a
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very good point. You know, a lot of the people
who are the happiest are people who you know, live
for other people and are accountable to other people. And
like some of the poorest countries and the world have
like happyness ratings way higher than ours. And it's just
being around like family and having closed knit communities. And
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but you can't really monetize that, you know, you can't
sell it in America, and like things, that's just a
constant like lens that we should be viewing everything through,
is that the solutions that you're given on a day
to day basis in America are just like whatever the
best version of that is to sell as opposed to
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like what's actually good for you as what's available to
you externally, right well, right, And it's like, you know,
what's not sexy cognitive behavioral therapy, right, you know, and
what is sexy is like following some dumb lifestyle you know,
influencer on Instagram, right exact, Actually that sort of thing,
like I need a geometric ring exactly, and like I'm guilty,
(13:04):
I've got like weird. I bought a weird shaped water
This is the most embarrassing thing. I was just like,
up too late. Those Instagram ads got me. I bought
a flat water bottle you hold a little more like
a book, And like, I don't even know what state
of mind I was in, but I was like, this
is certainly a more chic way to move about the
(13:24):
world carrying a water bottle. Thirty five dollars showed up
at my house and I was like, you're done, You're
cut off. Send this back now. This is so stupid.
And I was like taken in by like a different
tactile holding experience of the water bottle. I was like,
it's going to change god boy golf, you know, but
(13:45):
like that, but you can keep it in a stack
of books, which you're always carrying around when you go
to class. Right, It was like, do I currently have
an issue storing a water bottle in my backpack? In
the in the little side thing that's already meant from
like for a water bottle, Like that laptop laptop slot
in my backpack is feeling empty. Oh, I'll put a
(14:05):
water bottle in there that is void. Fil uh. And finally,
what is a myth? What is something people think it's
true you know, to be false? Besides the one you
just busted for us? Yeah, totally. I I think it's
just interesting because I was thinking too, You're like, oh,
I'm not feeling well. And as much as I'm like, dude,
you just start taking some of that reginal oil, you know,
(14:25):
I do believe because I'm like, I just think it
burns all living organisms just out of your throat, good
and bad. At the creation juice place, I'll take that
wild shot. It's called like the cure or whatever. It's
just like raw garlic in ginger, which usually it helps
my throat a lot better. Anyway, I think it's just
(14:46):
like I've tried to pump the brakes on being so
over sold by this idea that, like all western medicine
is bad. Like, yeah, they're awful companies, they are self
serving doctors. But like this idea that people who pedal
completely unregular related vitamins aren't also a billion dollar industry
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who are just trying to sell you stuff, And I'm
like really trying. So it's not that like I debunked
it per se. It's just like I think everyone's going
super overboard again feeding into this like self care and
holistic and natural and it's like, dude, like their spraying
organic fields with stuff that's actually not on a list
of safe chemicals for humans to ingest as well, and
(15:29):
just because it qualifies under the standard of organic doesn't
mean it's good for you. So I just feel like
it's just like false choice. And while I don't have
the science to take down organics, um, I'm just being
I'm just asking more questions and asking, um, what are
people's motivations for wanting to like pedal you this stuff?
I mean, yeah, the goops of the world especially too, Right, dude,
(15:51):
you know what I did see, Like there's this interesting
like her and her like vaginal steaming. You know how
she brought that right Exactlyonia egg the vaginal steaming pots
that you sit over it and it literally has no
added benefit. You're like not supposed to miss with your
j j Alright, hold on, I'm going to break this
(16:12):
thing down then, because I've been sitting over for this
whole recording, and I was waiting, are you gonna man's
plain of vagina to me right now? Because hold on,
you gotta understand about the vagina here. You thought I
meant break it down. Yeah, you know, I was like
this vagina steamer that I've had under my chair for
(16:34):
this whole recording. The scroll steamer is very you know
what though, Like I don't have a problem with someone
steaming a scrot because it's an outer organ, you know,
which is takes well to be You're not really supposed
to get up in your stuff and clean it. You've
got a whole system in place, like you know. Also,
if I found out that the herbs that they put
(16:56):
in the vaginal steaming, had I gone and done it
followed this add one of them is mug wart, which
I am anaphylactically allergic, So I would have died and
gone into anaphylactic shock while squatting over a badge pot. Yeah,
and that is embarrassing stuff to put on your gravestone.
More embarrassing for Trump I died from. I know, Like
(17:22):
in Italy there's a level of organic that they call
like bological or something where it's literally to qualify. Only
ship you can use is water and the sun, right,
and if you fucking add anything, they're like, yo, you
lost your license like anything, Like it's like enforced with
like law enforcement. And I'm like, why can't, Like we
are the people who are giving us that. But I
(17:43):
guess for the scale of like crops or whatever people
are growing here, I don't know, like you just have
to go to your farmer's market. I mean, my organic
fruit says biologic on it is that? Is it maybe
just a translation? I don't know. I don't know, We'll see.
I want to Consumer Reports really already was like where
do you get it? What is it? Brook? Stop? Stop? Alright, guys,
(18:05):
let's talk about some things that are happening in the
zeitgeist right now. So I just wanted to This is
kind of a random one, but I think this is
one of the interesting details of the zegeist that I
always find myself paying attention to is how words filter
through the zeitgeist. And I've noticed myself actually wanting to
use the word wild as an adjective, like instead of
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like crazy or some other thing about like something being
over the top, and then like I found myself using
it so much that I was like, all right, I
gotta stop using that. And then I noticed Alexandria Casio
Cortez use it in a tweet yesterday, and then I
woke up this morning, I had a my first news flash,
like on my phone head wild used as an adjective,
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and Brooke, you have a theory on on where this
is coming from. I do, And I'm not trying to
name drop that I know and admire this person in particular,
but I really think like Nicole Buyer has been saying
this like for a long time. She's used it as
a hilarious adjective like I used to produce and direct her,
(19:10):
like when she she do interviews on Girl Code, like
her Instagram descriptions have been you know, basically, she's used
the adjective wild for as long as I can remember
to basically describe how insane and racist people are in
her comments while being really funny about it. But she
said people are wild in these and she's been doing
it for a long time. I think she's like wild
(19:30):
as the New Yams, And you know, it's fun to
have an adjective and a descriptor different than crazy because
crazy is getting tired, right, and now it is sort
of like, oh well, it's like a gas lading word
toward women, or it's being disrespectful to anyone with mental
health struggles or whatever. Wild is like this feels fresh
(19:53):
off the tongue. I mean, I think it's just ebonics,
you know, essentially, because it's like a thing I hear.
I think it starts with wilding, you know, when they
were using that talk about teens, the problematic use of
it of like these black teenage like wilding, and then
that turns to wilding out to wild out or they
wild and then you get wild, and I think, yeah,
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it's like it's definitely a thing I've heard of hip hop,
but I feel it's one of those things that it
just reached the threshold where now just spilled over into
the general like American lexicon where you hear wild a lot.
But I think with also Jesus and Marrow too, they
probably use the word wild seven thousand times in episode
that Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, and it's and using
(20:35):
it as the wild something like as a modifier too,
like something can be wild or you like I'm smoking
the wild l you know, like whatever it is, I'm
sure it's like all of these things, you know, like
it's all a bunch of contributing factors. And I think
many people are getting it from many dimensions. But plus, yeah,
I think wild and wild has been I think it's
must descend from wild, and I think it's also like
(20:56):
right if you can use it in different areas of language.
It's sort of like I was in Hawaii and just
you just say like mahollow for everything, and it's like
a good cool thing or like you ever sees like
in the Netherlands, like a word like gazelli. You know,
it's just like good general feelings or whatever, or like
lequor just kind of means like every tasty, cute, nice whatever.
(21:19):
You know. Wild, I think generally is kind of I
think it's a it's definitely attributing negative qualities to things
right now, like or things that are extra extra or negative.
I feel like it's kind of what that means. I
wonder it's also like a very good description of our
day to day lives. And you know, we have somebody
running the free world who seems to be governed by
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animal instincts and it keeps Yeah, it keeps hard news
cycle completely wild. I'm still sticking. I like, you know,
i know, crazy a little played out, So I prefer
crazes that or bonkers in bananas still stand bys are
a couple of my faves not as popular. Yeah, I mean,
(22:04):
I'm gonna say, I'm thinking I was attributed to New York.
I have a feeling that's where it all started. Yeah,
big city where I mean, we get so much of
our slang from either drag queens or hip hop, and
a lot of this stuff we get from hip hops
coming from New York. But anyway, Yeah, this is a
wild segment where watching he'd be like, I've noticed myself
(22:26):
wanting to use the adjective's very delicious dish right exactly.
I don't know. I find it interesting. I want to
see if other people find it interesting and keeping eye up. Well,
when we hear like Corva Coleman doing like, you know,
like a wild next on, I think, just like the
(22:47):
way litt has also crossed a crossed the rubicon too. Yeah,
but yeah, that seems more like a new thing and
I understand why that is. Like it's like think kids
saying it just comes up the normal way that like
kind of hip catch phrases come up. But like wild
has been a thing my parents have said like for
(23:09):
years and stuff, and I don't feel too old to
say there's like there's like a non agism with the word.
I feel like you see hippies save like man, that's wild. Yeah,
exactly far out. I know somebody probably wrote a dissertation
on the origins of wild and slang, so please please
hit us with that study. Yeah, and I mean the
(23:29):
vocal fry. One of the most interesting things I've heard
in the past couple of years was somebody tracing vocal
fry as it went from you know, valley girls in
the eighties too then just most women to now everyone
has like vocal fry or it's like you're talking about
it's like literally literally also another one. Anyways, we're gonna
(23:52):
stop talking about this. We will take a quick break.
We'll be right back, and we're back. And Mark Zuckerberg,
who is a friend of mine, no so. Jack Dorrissey,
(24:15):
the founder of Twitter, was recently interviewed by Rolling Stone. Yeah,
and they said, what was your most memorable encounter with Zuckerberg?
And he was like, well, there was that year when
he was only eating what he was killing. He made
goat for me for dinner. He killed the goat. I
guess he kills it with a laser gun and then
the knife, so he I guess he used maybe a
(24:37):
stun gun is what he was talking. Yeah, then they
clarified they literally the way they's written in the article
as a laser gun. And he says, I don't know
a stun gun. They done it, and then he knifed it.
Then he knifed it like a prison shank, like what
you talking about, eight times in the chest. And then
they send it to a butcher. And I guess he
was saying, there's a rule in Paula Alto where you
(24:59):
can have six I've stuck on any lot of land.
So he was just cooking wild goats. But then this
is this is the part where it gets funny. So
Jack Jeory says to Mark Zuckerberg, I go, we're eating
the goat you killed. He said yeah. I said have
you eaten goat before? He's like yeah, I love it.
I'm like, what else are we having salad? I said,
where is the goat? It's in the oven. Then we
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waited for about thirty minutes. He's like, I think it's done.
Now we go in the dining room. He puts the
goat down. It was cold. That was memorable. I don't
know if he went back in the oven. I just
ate my salad. I pictured them like having that conversation,
and then thirty minutes later, like in that time that elapsed,
nobody said anything, right, They're just sitting there like, I mean,
I believe it doesn't the sound of forks scraping on,
(25:42):
just pushing around the same piece of goat. But he's
loving it, like Mark Walbers is using his hands. It's
a it's a yeah, what I call Walberg Mark Waller.
I got them confused. Delicious goat Um. Yeah, him just
bare hand eating the goat and oh it's more sucking
(26:04):
than even I could have hoped. So this is something
that I knew he was planning to do. He like
made it a big New Year's resolution at the beginning
of the year on Facebook he was only going to
eat stuff that he killed, and yeah, for a whole year.
And you know, that was sort of a wave for
a little bit that like people are butchering their own meat.
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It for you if you have the stomach for it.
But with him, he's not butchering. He's knocking stuff out
and then knifeing it. So technically he could find himself
like a hamburger pre made down the street, stun it,
knife it, and then he's like, I killed it. Yeah,
what you're doing is not the actual butchery. You're just
so I get the idea behind it. Like I think
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maybe if he had gone more with what you guys
were talking about with like one day of just try
it for one day, because then you're you have the
sense of like, Okay, this is what it is to
take another thing life like, and you're not outsourcing the
guilt because you have that guilt on your consciousness. But
if you're doing it for a full year and you're
(27:09):
constantly doing it, like you're just getting better at it
and like more callous, you're just about killing. You're practicing
to or whatever it is. Sorry, this isn't like it
is to me less barbaric to just be a sharpshooter.
One shot to the animal, kill with the gun and
then butcher it. So you can understand like what it
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takes and what a lot of other communities and cultures
do where you using the whole animal, Like there's something
so murdering versus killing that he's like perfect, especially when
it's described as he stuns it and then he knifed it.
The Snodiac killer. You know what, You're just like what?
But I mean, if any anybody who's heard the smoked
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meats cut up of his when he debuted Facebook live
by like introducing or inviting people into his back yard
for some smoked meats, you know that he's a totally
normal person who I think we have a just quick
clip of that. The wood chips up and then smoking meats, grilling,
grilling meats, good smoky flavor. Smoke a brisket for like
(28:13):
twelve hours. You smoke lemon, chicken, smoke salmon. You'll love it.
Bison ribs and sausage because I'm looking forward to to that.
They taste doubly better when, um, when you hunted the
animal yourself. So what do you guys making brisk and ribs?
I hope delicious sweet baby raised barbecue sauce that is
going on the ribs. Okay, just stop, I can't get
(28:35):
behind sweet baby raised barbecue sauce. You fucking lame basic barbecue. Yes,
it's a you'll look. He also says sweet baby raised
like twenty times, like it's some ship he just had
flown in or something. Right, it's the number one ingredient
in that barbecue sauces corn syrup. Yeah, it's not good.
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And I guess for me, like my grandfather, he's he's
a great barbecue grilled person, and I always grew up
with like learning how to make your own barbecue sauce.
You sounds like a real barbecue head barb barbecue. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I don't. I don't know, come fucking smoker, I mean,
uh yo, real talk though, when the Raiders were in
(29:19):
l A, my grandfather catered all their motherfucking practices. Oh yeah,
because the raiders were like, I don't eat Warns barbecue. Yo.
He used to do Ronnie Lott's turkey. He did our
shells turkey for for Thanksgiving. Okay, so take the coolest anyway.
So when I hear sweet baby raised, like, I man,
I get angry at people if they like they're like, hey,
(29:41):
we're gonna have some ribs and stuff and they have
sweet baby raised, I feel like I need to call
the barbecue police on well, like that's that the thing
that I find creepy about his practice of killing his
own meat. Is that, like so back in biblical times,
like there were animal sacrifices where you would have a
pet essentially that you raised and you like loved, and
then you would sacrifice it to the gods and eat
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that and like that's a thing where you actually have
a connection and you respect the life of the thing there.
But he's eating like a modern American. He's eating as
much meat as we eat. He's just killing it all.
He's just murdering the ship out of it and then
putting terrible barbecue sauce on it like a normal American.
Like it's it's just a serial killer approach to you know,
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I gotta work my way up to human man. I'm sorry.
I wonder if he was really like showing off towards
the end of the year, like you say, like he
was getting good at it. And he's like, I'll fucking
I'll tape the knife to the ground right here, and
I'll it's gonna fall right on the fucking knife, dude,
right right. Yeah, I'm thinking of the most dangerous game. Now.
He's like, let's lure a bunch of friends to an Island.
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I can just picture his face as he like makes
the kill and just like the I don't know, yeah,
it's yeah, like as a face or just picture picture
that a lot. I'm sorry that Mark. I have a
feeling it's like a version of what an alien thinks
it would have to do to face, where it's like
oh yes, oh thank you, all right. Yesterday i'm TTZ.
(31:16):
We talked about Trump claiming in a letter to Nancy
Pelosi that there were no security concerns with putting the
entire line of command of our entire nation, of each
single room without a remotely fully staffed security service. So
Nancy Pelosi responded to that by saying, you can't do
it here. I mean, you can do it wherever, wherever
you want. You don't have to go home, but you
(31:37):
can't stay here, basically, and Trump proved he is the
negotiator in chief by totally buckling immediately. It was just like, okay,
I guess I won't do it. Okay, I'll do it
from the hobby lobby parking line, right. And it's interesting
because you know, I like to keep an eye on Drudge,
and there is one conservative columnist who's like, yeah, Trump's
(31:59):
winning this negotiation. But you really don't get first of all,
the whole like delaying the state of the Union story
just disappeared the second he agreed to it. They do
not want the appearance of weakness. They don't want the headline.
Nancy Pelosi flexes dick on Trump's head. Homeboy just takes
(32:20):
his home right, just sort of like Mom made me
come home, just sort of Mom made you know, cancel
my party. Yeah, well, I just think he didn't, like,
he has not worked on any other tactics or plans
now that you know she's the house speaker. Like he
has just no idea because all of those tactics worked
(32:40):
when the power was in you know, the GOP. And
it's just like, oh, this is a woman who's just
like Noah, Yeah, he was really bad at this game
on like super easy mode and now it just like
went to hard mode and he doesn't really know how
to deal. And you see the cracks in like when
you have been able to surround yourself with everyone who's
(33:02):
a yes man and a stooge and and you were
just so quickly exposed for not actually being good at
anything when you're actually being you know, checked right, and
you have some adversity. So he's losing Republicans like Corey Gardner,
who is a Senator who is Colorado from Colorado, who
says he will vote for a clean spending bill that
(33:23):
doesn't have anything about the wall security or building of
the wall, and just is funds the government for a
while independent of Trump's negotiating tactics. And meanwhile, the top
story on Fox News, So the way Fox News covered
this was, well, here's some other state of the unions
that were delayed or didn't happen at all. So no
(33:44):
big deal, guys, nothing to see here. Hey, look at
this number one politics story. So the number one story
on their political page is Lindsay Graham zings Occasio Cortes
says she's hell ben on making Americans live as Venezuelan socialists.
That's the best they can come up with, is just that. God,
they are so obsessed with Why are you so obsessed
(34:05):
with me? Yeah? I mean they I love that. Their
pivot is like fucking something about AOC getting zing. Yeah
she said a mean thing about her. They again, it
just shows you sort of the lack of real substantive
things they can actually get around to motivate their base
that they just have to go back to like playground stuff.
(34:26):
Well that, yeah, and that's essentially what it is. It's
just sort of like we have such a big crush
on her, so we're going to throw rocks at her
head because like we don't understand how to negotiate. We
also are just immature and terrible privileged. You know, wasps
been in power for a long time, and we again
like have not had women who are younger, women of color,
(34:47):
women of different generations telling us what to do and
calling our ship like it's they it's wild because now
like that millennials are entering the political sphere like in waves.
Now they're starting to see like, yeah, hi, we're piste
off because you guys racked up all of this death
for who for what? So I could pay for the
(35:08):
bill and have like everything else unavailable to me in
terms of like things like an education or home ownership
and things like that. Okay, well here it comes, and
we're not so irrationally scared of communism because we didn't
grow up during the Cold War, so we will take
better lives over being called. When you're thinking about this too,
(35:28):
it's like now you've got this huge generational divide, Like
it's really going from people in their eighties to people
who are thirty years old, you know, like Katie Hills,
like thirty one, and they've got the same job description.
And it's sort of like you getting to call your
grandparents ship and it's like you're like, we all work
together now and the ship you've done, You're like, wow,
this is how you're running it. Ship RAMPI. We gotta
(35:51):
put you in a home, like your office stinks washing.
That's always a tough time when like ship's starts just
falling apart. Dishes are like, let's talk Venezuela real quick, guys.
It was really dark for you. Yes, sorry man, hey man,
(36:11):
we all have we all have aging family members. It's
trying to realize it's unavoidable. Yeah, so Venezuela is an
absolute ship show. Huh yep, moving on all right. Uh No. Actually,
back at Cracked, a couple of years ago, we interviewed
a dude who lived in their capital city and like
a nice, you know, single family home, middle class neighborhood,
(36:32):
and they were starving to the point that he had
to use a machetean crossbow to fight off like looters
who were trying to steal the mangoes out of his
two mango trees because everybody, like nobody had any other
way of feeding themselves. It was just it was like
zombie apocalypse style, just crazy shit going on, like the
(36:54):
society was dissolving and turns out that's not super sustainable,
the zombie waste land occrecy or whatever. And after a
highly disputed election where the incumbent managed to win highly disputed,
let's just say, a sham fun election, Uh, there is
now a leadership crisis. The US has backed uh gentleman
(37:17):
with the last name Gwaido, and Russia is back in
Maduro who is the current leader and architect of all
this bullshit, And yeah, it's not going well right. Russia
yesterday threatened America that, you know, don't intervene militarily or
there will be hell to pay and a blood back,
(37:41):
Yeah something blood. I think they mentioned blood in particular,
which that's maybe means something else in Russian. Yeah, probably,
But yeah, I mean, like look when you look at
sort of what's gone down, what Bundura has been doing,
you know, he basically stacked their Supreme court with his
own people who then like used their power or from
the judiciary to strip as much power and influence from
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the National Assembly, and then from there it just got
worse and worse and worse and worse, and you know,
it's it's it's a weird situation that the U S
is in because, yeah, there are other countries who also
support Guido or recognize him as the interim president or
you know, the leader for now. The other countries that don't,
they're also in the game two turkeys also, like what
(38:24):
we bang with Maduro Bolivia, I think Mexico is also
in the same boat. But it's a very you know,
it's a weird situation because now what we're looking at
is like, what are we going to start sucking around
in Central and South America again, you know, because that
doesn't resonate very well with the people down there. Up
so it's a very, very delicate situation. I don't know
(38:45):
how Maduro is going to resign because he does have
the military backing him, and they back him because they're
able to make money and he's able to keep them
comfortable based on the way, you know, he's sort of
just gutting the country, so is always going to be
people with the incentive to keep the current power structure
in placing. Usually those will be very powerful people already.
(39:08):
So uh yeah, it's it's a mess. There does seem
to be this sort of global divide between like countries
who have embraced Western civilization and then Russia and you know,
those who embrace corruption and autocracy and you know, all
the all that ship. And it just feels weird that
(39:30):
we're backing the side that Trump would clearly not sideways.
That's what I'm just I'm like catching up on some
of these headlines, and I'm like, this, does he seems
more aligned with Maduro? Right right? You know, every instinct
that we've come to see from him would seem to
suggest that he would identify with Maduro. Well, I'm I'm
pulling this quote right here from a New York Times
(39:52):
article with Maduro claimed, I am the only president of Venezuela. Mr.
Maduro said, we do not want to return to the
twentieth century of Ringo interventions in Kutta. Yeah, You're like,
that's so trumpy. Yeah, yeah, well that's I mean, he's
still the US though, you know, that's the regime change
has been a thing that the us likes to fun.
Yeah and so, and like, also you have Marco Rubio
(40:14):
at here. He's definitely been one of the most vocal
opponents of Maduro in the Senate. So I don't know,
maybe this is a way for them to create a
like false tension with Russia. You see, you see what's
going on. If I was really with with Putin, I
would be like yeah Maduro all day. But I'm guide, oh,
you know, it's as thinking about that. It's also interesting
(40:34):
to me that it's like, hey, Trump, you know, I know,
we America gets involved in global relations, but it's like,
how about we focus on like the meddling that we
won't admit to you in America and like not now
I know, I mean, I know, I know, I know.
But it's like we're meddling when we won't pay attention
(40:55):
to our own country being like very meddled with it.
It's just a meddling of our own you know, me, yeah,
meddler on the roof. But he's a real bet meddler there.
We I mean again, just the other thing, just when
looking at Venezuela, I mean, it is a it's a
real legit humanitarian crisis because I think three million people
(41:15):
have left in the last few years and people are
starving today. Yes, and that is also like it has
a destabilizing effect on everything else. So this isn't a
thing that can be ignored either. But yeah, trying to
walk down the path of like, oh well, if he's
not going to resign, do we then physically remove it?
That's where we start. Also, like our governments shut down
(41:36):
right now, you know, and it's just like why take
any vote of confidence from the US at this point. Either,
it's just like here, let us help out. Our country
is on fire. It's just you know, it's just it's
just a little brostrongly complicated situation for a functioning government
to do with. Right, we do not have one of those.
(41:57):
So it's interesting because we've all so seen that Trump
likes to use foreign policy as a distraction. So this
has been another story to smoke bomb the news cycle
with to get people talking about like, oh god, Venezuela,
Like what are we gonna do? Like, oh, yeah, maybe
Trump is right about this one thing, very in a
very myotic sense. Yeah, I mean, but like you said,
(42:17):
there is a humanitarian crisis there. But there has been
a humanitarian crisis there since you know that dude was
fighting bandits off from his mango tree three years ago,
and this is the first we're saying anything about it.
So all right, we're gonna take a quick break. We'll
be right back. And we're back. And there's been some
(42:46):
interesting statements coming out of Washington with regards to people
who are furloughed and can't feed their family. Yeah, because
the GLP, I mean, not that they ever really gave
a funk about regular other people, but I mean the
shutdown is really underlining this fact that it's a party
of rich boomers baby boomers who only surround themselves with
(43:10):
rich boomers who only give a funk about rich white boomers.
And that's it. And from a policy level, they say, oh,
we love the troops, we on other troops. Then how
come the Coastguard brass are in videos nearly violating their
agreements of not having politically charged statements of being like
we have to open the government. This is a disgrace.
I have people working that are not being paid, They're
(43:32):
having to go to food banks. What is this, like,
why are we doing this? What is going on here?
And again you think for all the ship that's talking
about supporting the troops oron troops, people who are in
the military and any kind of armed forces or military service.
We're not doing right by them. Republicans constantly talk about,
you know, if you want to make America great again,
not in the you know sense of just you know,
(43:54):
brown people knowing their place and white people being the
exalted part of the community or population, and actually rebuilding
the middle class or trying to get that foothold when
you could have a job, any job, and support a family.
But yet all we see our tax cuts to the wealthy.
And now with this shutdown, like we're at that point
where it is the it's the painful part of the
(44:16):
shutdown has landed on the shores. Before it was easy
to obscure, like an eight day shutdown. Yeah, usually the
news story during a shutdown is the national parks are
closed because like tourists can't go to the national parks.
But now that it's a record breaking shutdown, that people
(44:36):
have missed two paychecks, Yes, well you missed too paychecks.
And then I'm also thinking of dead of winter for
certain parts of this country, where like that means power
shut off, that also means anything to not paying my mortgage,
and now we're talking of people starting to destroy credit.
That's already like you're not set up for success in
this country to begin with. Like it's having real implications
(44:59):
and real effects on people, and like we thought the
only headline for a minute that was going to get
anyone's attention was lessened safety at airports, and it's like, no,
it's it's becoming more than that. Most people can't miss
one pay day. Now they're going on to full cycles
of not getting their paycheck. And that is just so
unrealistic when the average household does not have savings for
(45:21):
emergency because we don't pay enough people a living wage.
And then so when you're already working on that pay
scale and then now you're not getting paid, what are
I don't what are you supposed to do? Because I
think you know. It just shows again this disconnect that
the Party has with actual America, not just the rhetorical
version where it's like, well, we're on the same team
(45:41):
in the culture war, rather than the human beings who
have to get their ass out of bed, go to
a job, put in time, come back and have money
to be able to support your family or you know,
stimulate the economy or whatever, but first and foremost to
just survive. And I mean they've been relying on the
culture war thing so much that they've been able to
(46:01):
just get completely out of touch with the rest of America,
right and at this point to like when you go
back to what in most voters want, you know that
there is like basic human decency for a living wage,
you know, some sort of access to healthcare. So now, um,
I've also heard another effect too is people who have
(46:22):
like government funded um rehab recovery, like where they need
their treatment and medications for the opioid crisis that's happening,
people can't get their treatment. So now we've also got
the possibility of people who are making headway with this
like manufactured drug crisis now backsliding and not having anyone
to lean on. I mean, people are flooding. There's no
(46:43):
room for anyone to go get the medication they need
to get out of this hellhole. Right, So then, uh,
you know Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross does Yeah, yeah, Okay, Well,
I mean and I don't even know. I mean, this
guy is looks like someone who like held onto the
ring of power for too long. You know what I mean,
(47:04):
Like he looks so he's from another like literally from
another time and dimension where he goes on CNBC when
they asked him about the shutdown and like the economy,
he's like, look, if you actually take you know, eight
thod people, and why does I feel bad for them? Uh?
And we're the money we're talking about here is only
a fraction of one person of the GDP, So you know,
(47:25):
there's it's just a blip and it's not it's not
anything real because but he because he doesn't know anybody
who's a working person. So then the host on c
NBC is like, what it's like, I'm not talking about
the g DP. Like what I'm talking about people who
like actually have real they are real world ramifications for
this bullshit. And this is what he says. That's the secondary.
(47:47):
There are reports that there are some federal workers who
are going to homeless shelters to get food. Well, I
know they are, and I don't really quite understand why because,
as I mentioned before, the the obligations that they would undertake,
say a borrowing from the bank or a credit union,
are in effect federally guaranteed. So the thirty days of
(48:12):
pay that some people will be out. There's no real
reason why they shouldn't be able to get a loan
against it. I'm sorry, I'm what I was asleep? What
the fuck is he talking about? Yeah? I mean that
is basically the most almost literal translation of let them
(48:35):
eat cake, like into financial terms of just like a
hundred millionaire being like, why don't you go get alone
against all the equity you have? I okay? He And
this is just what's so fucking just disturbing, right, is
(48:56):
that they're at the levers at the moment. Not to
say that Democrats also don't have an anti working people
agenda to on some level, but like when you have
the segretive of commerce, so this just astronomically out of
touch with reality that he's like, I don't understand you
just get a loan from your uncle, dip into the
(49:16):
money on your shell company? What are you're lucky penny loafers?
You should have put an old T bond in there
for ten dollars you can go like what is again?
It's just very very sad to see, and I feel
like Democrats have to hammer this into people's heads going
(49:37):
to They're like they have seeded their position as a party.
That just that gives just any kind of a funk
about people. Absolutely, I mean, like their whole thing. They're
all lockstep just for this fucking wall at this cost.
And I think that's why some people, I think, you know,
people like Corey Gardner who are Republican senators, are starting
to come around because they're like, this is fun, this
(49:59):
is fucked. And also I'm worried about his election too,
but you know, but yeah, generally there is no it's
just numbers, statistics. They don't care about actual stories and individuals.
But the whole not letting someone have a paycheck because
you're having to fight. It's like the optics are just
they're not gonna they're not gonna win out on the
GOP side. They just aren't. And as much as Trump
(50:21):
and the GOP want to try, and you know, these
mealy mouth sort of like we're putting an offer on
the table that's just so ridiculous. But especially when it's
like you are the one who took away you know,
DACA citizenship and you're gonna give it back for a
few years, Like that's wild. Oh my god, Well that's
how I feel. That's word. But um, I just don't
(50:41):
think the rhetoric that the Democrats have been giving every
opportunity to open the government, it's just not working. When
they just voted on some legislation to help that and
they failed, so they knew it would And maybe people
are saying, maybe this will be a beginning, the first
step to getting something together that will pass. But the
first step should have been like people not being cool
(51:03):
with weaponizing a shutdown as a fucking chess piece in
your in your your legislative game. Yeah, that's hold the
American middle class Americans hostage. So an Arab pisson contest. Yeah, yeah,
uh well, speaking of the middle of America. Yeah, Costco
has a plan. They might be stepping into the streaming arena.
(51:27):
Is Yeah, so this media exact. Mark Greenberg apparently has
been shopping an idea around for like a Netflix that
speaks to the forgotten American. You know, the people in
fly Over Country in the Midwest that don't have the
taste for hoity toity shows like Stranger Things or Homecoming
or The Ranch. You know what I mean, people the
(51:48):
Ranches that was made for people who don't like don't
phone black mirror anyway, so Greenberg was working with Walmart
on something like on a very similar thing because you know,
they're like, we need a team up with a brand
that like Middle America inherently just trusts and will not
think about the destruction of mom and pop stores. They
(52:12):
feel like, you're Walmart is good. But then Walmart is like,
now I think we're all in on Voodoo, that page
streaming platform. I think they have something to do the voodoo.
So they passed on it. Yes, So now Greenberg is
talking with Costco because that's sort of like the other
very familiar brand to anyone in America, but also Walmart.
Also Walmart's arts nemesis. So just thinking of like, yes,
(52:33):
get into this, because I think a lot of it
has to do with the idea that Netflix. They feel
like there's been Although there has been huge subscriber growth,
it's happening in like other countries. The subscription growth in
the US is starting to kind of flatten out, and
I think that is where these people say like, oh, okay,
so they've done peak coastal urban or like metropolitan market penetration,
(52:55):
but what about these other states? Like what about these
other places? Is there is there another market that we're
just not tapped into. So I don't know what kind
of programming that they have will be. Maybe it'll be
you know, more Mike Huckabee specials. Uh the leather Special
with Mike Huckabee. Oh yeah, we need to get we
need to get back to tried huck I tried watching
it and I've almost had a fucking meltdown because we
(53:18):
were watching Mike Huckabee show last week and punching up
some of his jokes. Did you know he has a
late night show now I would Uh, well, I told
you I just stopped drinking. So I don't think I
should watch it on more on solid selfcare is actually
not watching that like and I mean that, but yeah,
I think that's where the market is where they still
(53:40):
feel that. And I think, you know, there was like
a study where a majority of people, like in Middle
America felt that the media does not actually functionally understand
how they live or what their life is like for sure.
And I interesting thesis. I mean, because CBS has an audience, right,
and CBS is one of the networks that kind of
caters to more Middle American viewers. But you know, there's
(54:03):
not CBS doesn't have some like great streaming platform or
something that they're that they're getting people to buy into. No,
and I mean, like I I was on a show
for a couple of years that just got canceled this week.
It's okay, but like True TV is also kind of
like the high quality network that like I'm sorry, it's
like Middle America watches True t V what they're doing
(54:27):
in my mind where I'm like, I feel like Adam
Conover show, which is so great, like people really enjoy it.
But I think he's about like where Middle America tops out,
just because he's like debunking things and you know, and
he's got an ascot on and whatever, and like I
love all that about Adam and but I think that's
who watches TV. Yeah, yeah, No, it's an interesting thesis.
It'll be interesting to see if if Costco has the
(54:49):
stomach for it. Kirkland though, you know, look they got
their their shine in baskets, right, So Costco I've already
entered the media sphere. That's the true time starting with
Louis Anderson buy Kirkland everything. My god, I mean, it
is beloved everywhere Costco. Honestly, I might if it was
called Kirkland Flicks or some ship. I would be like,
(55:12):
I kind of have to see here. Have you guys
ever had a Kirkland signature Hangover? Yes, what do they have? Oh?
Just a big bottle of like silver tequila. Like it's
like if you're throwing, you know, a big get together,
you do not shell out for top you know top brands.
You go to Costco and making it just a different bottle.
(55:33):
Possibly that I am responsible. Hangover disagrees. Yeah, I love
the light beer. We call Kirkland spicies, but they're just
Kirkland light beer. It's so aggressively generic. Unit price comes
out to about forty eight cents a can. Yeah, get
that Kirkland light just swill beer. Well, Broke, it has
been a pleasure having you. Thank you. Where can people
(55:56):
find you on Twitter? B VP comedy. I'm sometimes active,
sometimes very silent. It ebbs and flows. You know what
I've got the emotional capacity. Instagram is Brooke at brook
vie p and Sidework podcast is at side Work podcast
and hopefully iTunes will on board us. Well we'll get
(56:19):
to the bottom of them. Thank you. Will you send
your people, I'll talk to my people over there. Thank you.
Is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Well, okay, I'll
say this. It's a little timely something that made me
L O L really really hard. On Tuesday, after a
group of us who all just stand up comedy found
out that very very talented and amazing Kevin Barnett had
(56:41):
passed very tragically and suddenly UM this comedy club in
New York City, which I am also not a fan of,
broke the news of his death, and it's well known
that Kevin does not like performing there, you know, didn't
really love the proprietors per se, and our friend Nick Turner,
who's the best, tweeted Kevin hated the stand just like yeah,
(57:06):
just within hours of you know, it was just like
someone needed some comic relief. And it's always a weird
thing to be like what do we say and how
do we make light of this? Because we are all
comedians but this is so nuts and you know, but
that was just such like, oh, God, comedies a savior sometimes,
you know. Miles, where can people find? You find me?
(57:26):
Follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. Uh.
Couple of tweets I like. One is from James Fritz
at Fritz is dead, it says, um. Actually, there's a
third firefest stock that shows the rich maggoteenes helping the
people on the island. I love Fritzy. Uh. And then
another one is from Reductress, as usually says, did you
(57:48):
know your nipple is the same size as your butt hole?
I know because I've tried it like this, very this woman,
like this really confident look on her faces. They are indestructible.
Doctress is the best thing right now on Twitter, just
cranking out the his. I mean, I've nearly every episode
of my I'm always shotting out the Reductress writing staff tweet.
(58:10):
I enjoyed at Libya Liberty tweeted, uh, Liberty, liberty. A
terrorist plot was uncovered thanks to a New York citizen
who saw something and said something. But there won't be
as much media interest about the story as you'd expect.
And then she's replying to a Slate story four young
men arrested and charged an apparent terrorist plot against Muslim
(58:31):
community and up stating York. But yeah, you didn't see
that and reported very many places. Uh. And then I
have to give it out to a former guest. Vanessa written,
she tweeted my firefest was my ninth birthday where no
one showed up because my mom forgot to mail out
the invitation but said that she did, and I took
turns hitting the pinata by myself. Well how do you
(58:54):
take turns? Hinted by yourself? Like you rested right? All right?
So now so your next thank you for her birthdays
coming up in February. Find out her then hit her up. Yeah,
let's send her to Firefest. Yes, you can find me
on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You find us on
Twitter at Daily Zigeys Brett The Daily Zigeys on Instagram.
(59:16):
We have Facebook fan page and a website Daily Ziguys
dot com where we post our episodes in our foot nope,
we link off to the information that we talked about
in today's episode, as well as the song we ride
out on miles what's that going to be? Uh? This
is a song from Yamazaki Huckle, which is a Japanese
vocalist from back in the day. Uh. And this song
in sort of phonetic cottak on us written as ahead
(59:39):
of me help me because we need help right now. Uh.
And also it's just a very very nice movie song
for this week. Alright, guys, have a great weekend. We're
going to ride out on that. We will be back
on Monday when you fucking gets done. You got my
(01:00:01):
Cheeta Oya made it, and that you just give you
so I'm not Touchini. Okay, I got it out of
Toto suit to go so they can skip the gotta
(01:00:21):
give all, Gondy to give all and
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