August 15, 2019 • 62 mins
In episode 454, Jack and Miles are joined by Ridiculous History and Stuff They Don't Want You To Know's Ben Bowlin to discuss Trump's years long pettiness towards people, Facebook being shady as usual, Chernobyl 2.0, Jeffrey Epstein updates, the anti-spoiler A.I., Arizona Iced Tea getting into cannabis, and more!
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2. Facebook Paid Contractors to Transcribe Users’ Audio Chats
3. Facebook plans to launch 'GlobalCoin' currency in 2020
4. Russia says rocket explosion caused 16-fold radiation spike
7. The Day Jeffrey Epstein Told Me He Had Dirt on Powerful People
8. Hate spoilers? This AI tool spots them for you
9. Arizona Iced Tea Will Finally Get Into the Weed Business
10. WATCH: Karriem Riggins - Double Trouble
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season episode four of
da Daily Zight Guy Yeah, a production of I Heart Radio.
This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
into America's share consciousness and say officially off the top
fun Coke Industries and also Fox News. It's Thursday, August two.
My name is Jack O'Brien, a K out Jack take cows,
(00:24):
no fools, just ZiT. That's courtesy Crispy Mean Doughnut, and
I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co host,
Mr Miles Gray. He's got a weed fad hanging on
each chump. He's got the ball at works with gravity blazon,
He's got his bone repills and garbage. Fast Food takes
(00:46):
on the zeitgeys for the good of the nation. Miles
and Jack try to stop confusion. D Dzy is the
news lousion Dude, I love that little Sacks sample. Anyway,
(01:13):
you know what, someone hit the exacta today too. That
was also Christi Yamaguchi main a k Crispy meme. Don't know.
I had a feeling. Yeah yeah, so it's yeah, I
mean people are just as are getting dialed in more
and more. We may just have to do a record
charity record for sure, be the skits, the interstitials. Uh,
(01:36):
then you'll be the character mad podcaster. Yes, well we're
through to be joined by the hilarious and talented podcast hosts.
Not not a mad podcaster, just a great podcaster. Mr
Ben Bowling, ak am I man Ben Bowling. Oh my god, guys,
I got a second ded. This is my second time
(01:57):
appearing on this David Zeitgeist. And now you're man. Now
know a lot of people were fooled by the slick
photoshop job, and it did on the hand romo photos
and they're like, whoa I was She's a magician, folks,
Yeah she fake honestly you guys. I I was flummixed.
I was like, where then did I black out? Yeah?
(02:19):
I gotta call my doctor. It happened again. Speaking of
deep fakes, did you see the deep fake where Bill
Hayter turns into Tom Cruise? Yes? Man, I guess, I
guess that's the new level of celeberty notoriety. We we
know we've popped when we are deep faked. Yea. For
(02:41):
people who haven't seen it, it's Bill Hayter doing impressions
of Tom Cruise and who else and he turns into
them when he does it, and it's kind of subtle. Yeah,
because you're like, shape shifting is real. But if any
listeners are really sick with the deep face, let us
know and then maybe I'll send you up and you
can get me saying all kinds of stuff. But I'm
(03:02):
already saying all kinds of wild ship here, so good
luck there's enough footage or enough audio of us saying
just everything that people could edit. Well, we mentioned all
kinds of problematic stuff, like racist groups that like sometimes
you're like, you know what, honestly, to me, Nazis are
lit like wait, hold on, well, Ben, We're gonna get
(03:25):
to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're
talking about today. We have another good example of Trump's
mailing habits. Uh. We're going to talk about how Facebook
is fucking you just yet another way add some texture
to all the many ways they're fucking you. We're gonna
talk about Chernobyl two point oh. We have an update,
(03:46):
there a lot of updates. Um, We're gonna talk about
what the democratic field is looking like on the latest
polling and who might run for VP. Uh. And we're
just gonna check in with the Jeffrey Epstein story. All
of that and plenty plenty more on today's daily guys.
But first, Ben, we like to ask our guess, what
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is something from your search history that's feeling about who
you are? Oh? Man, okay, So my answers I'm a
little better prepared today. All right. Uh, my answers are
gonna be weirdly consistent. Case Dias. I went really deep
into this case da thing. I am emotionally involved with it.
I have like three feelings a year, and one of
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them right now is case Dias. So if you looked
at by search history, what you would see, despite various
things we all google all the time on both mobile
or laptop or whatever, I'm weirdly into case Dias. Like, yeah,
I formed online friendships with some people over the past
three weeks, and it's all we talk about. You. I
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am very serious. Well, I mean, look, I'm not gonna
save the case ada. I love a case of dea.
Thank you. What is it that you looked at you
and you Is it just the simplicity of it? I
think so? Uh? And also so as you guys know,
I am based in Atlanta. I'm from Atlanta, and one
of the things that I love about the city is
(05:11):
a long time ago I figured out the way to
be the most innocuous, the way to be like the
most of the place you're in is to just be
casually eating something while you're walking around. And in a
case of like a small case, I have a design
which I will not sure right now, but uh thinking
and it's like a one handed thing. I don't know.
(05:33):
It ties into my so like one of my big
dreams has always been, you know how there's big political
speeches and there are a bunch of people have to
awkwardly stand behind the person and occasionally like subtly nod
without taking focus. I want to be that guy and
halfway through I either want to take out like a
pocket case yeah and still like nod with graptas uh.
(05:55):
And I have also put my visible case down. Yeah,
thank you, thank you. I committed. I I will also
then in my such history have a lot of footage
is literally me trying to find the right phrase for
important person standing people behind them right case. Yeah. So
that's where I'm what is the what's the secret to
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a good case ida in your opinion, since you have
such a strong opinion on case. I'm not an expert,
but I'm a strong opinion that all right. So uh
so I think, well, there's the there's the flower v.
Corn debate, right, uh and then where do you fall? Uh?
You know, I got to tell you I'm going I'm
(06:38):
going flower, and you know you have to. I honestly
think a case it has to be flower if it's
like a molita or something which is a little bit
closer than it has to be corn. But I feel
like for the way I was introduced to case it is,
which is through like gringo Mexican food, But I don't
know if they are they making case it is with
corn tortillas in Mexico? Is that the deal? I of
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people who are like, yo, it has to be corn
because I've never heard I've never seen a case a
deal with corn I made. I made a few. I've
been doing some experiments and uh, the results are in guys,
yeah flower. Yeah, So vegans, I'm interested, and I try
a vegan case adia. Uh next week, I've got so. Yeah.
(07:20):
I know You've giving yourself enough of a runway to
build up to that. Thank you. Yeah, I made lightly. Yes,
you've had this on the on the calendar since late February. Yeah,
try Vegan case Adia. Yeah yeah August. What is something
you think is overrated? Uh? You know what? You know
(07:41):
our previous episode, I said that I felt talking on
the phone was largely overrated. Thank you guys for supporting that.
Shout out to my mom. Oh yeah remember that. Uh.
And I think you guys made a really good point
about taking road trips and using it as an opportunity
to catch up on photos. Right now, I have to say,
I think, uh, networking is overrated. But if I'm being honest,
(08:06):
if I'm being honest, is probably just because I'm very
bad at it. You know, small talking like getting to
just meet new people. Is that what you mean by networking?
Because Jack I will small talk all day. Yeah, I
love strangers. I never learned that lesson from childhood. But
when I have to speak with people in like a
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three minute window and we have to convey like our
journalistic ws right, it's weird, you know, totally. Yeah, that's
a very special skill. I'm also not good at that.
When it's funny because we are at a convention right now, Yeah,
pulled back the curb. We pulled back the curtain yesterday
(08:48):
because we'll look, we're recording live in a hotel room
right now. Okay, the curtain is back with a great
view of the pool, great view of the pool and
Lazy River, and we'll just leave it at the water slide. Yeah,
there was like there were moments I forgot, you know,
we were seeing and at her panel and then I'm
walking around the floor and then like someone like just
randomly came up and was like, hey, how you doing.
I'm blah blah blah, And I was like, what the funk, dude,
(09:09):
And I forgot. I'm like, right, this is a networking environment.
In my mind, I was like, well, we have to
do on these panels and other stuff, and we have
to record the show. And I was caught off guard
a little bit. But then I realized, you know what,
it's time to give back, and and I give back.
I mean, just treat the person like a human who
asked me a question, rather than like, what are you
weird or something? Dude, Dude, what do you want? Dude?
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What are you selling? Nothing? I'm this guy, Okay, I'm sorry.
I'm from the city and I'm very cynical. Without disclosing specifics.
I was walking by earlier today through this this big
people area, hang out area, whatever, and uh, I did
hear someone mid small talk or mid networking say, so,
(09:51):
what's what's your thing? That's a weird way. Yeah, it's like, hey,
what's this? What's your whole thing about? So if I said,
if I said that to somebody in the course of
a conversation, I would like spend many nights like cringing
thinking back about having said that. But I bet that
person was just like, yeah, but that's part of networking.
(10:13):
And that's why I get to why you say it's
like you don't like it because you're bad at it,
But like when you have an opportunity, especially to be
around a bunch of people, because like if you're isolated
in some other city that doesn't have a robust like
media industry, like precisely coming to uh, you know, convention
or conference of people in that like you're gonna be
like you need to pick as many frames. So if
(10:35):
you see me out there, please feel feeled to prick
my brain. My brain and for a few extra dollars
you can prick my brain. But let's just all meet
up and I'll give you the little advice I have,
which is probably only on like fast food. Definitely feel
free to approach. So many people are good at it though,
you know what I am in awe. Yeah, when you
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see someone who's like, just can small talk the funk
out of a room, remember every face and every name
when they're like Pomeranian Yankee doing you know, I'm baffled
by them, but I don't trust them. Yeah. Well, people
in sales right there, like they're just a few clicks
away from being a murderer. There's a Jedi thing it's
like and if it if it was evil, they'd be like,
(11:18):
oh yeah, I stocked people. Yeah, but they're like, no,
I love money first. So I learned these details about
people I closed deals. What if something you think is
underrated besides case it is, thank you? Yeah I do
where that was going. Thank you. Yes, you know what
I am gonna say that I think other than case
(11:38):
it is Jack, you know what I know. Let me
look through my notes like open mic, stand up, you
know what I gotta say. I think that you can
also say case it is, oh ship really don't give
him an out. He's got a brain on him. Thanks
wells uh, you know, I think in that I've switched sides.
(12:02):
I was very very anti minivan for long time. As
you guys know. I used to host a car show
and I just hated minivans. They were like professionally in
the way on the road. But I sat in one
recently and my god, yeah, the game's changed. The game's changed.
(12:22):
It's which one man, Chrysler PACIFICA. Uh, the which one
did I hate? You know? Which one were you in? Oh?
I was in a I was in a town, country country.
You got it? Get out of my head. Chrysler. Yeah,
And I was like, there's so many cup holders in
this weird rolling studio apartment. Yeah. My buddy has one
to who he has a like a young family, and
(12:44):
he was like, Yo, do how to get a van?
And I'm like, but he's like, but it's tight, dudemobile different.
And then we were he like he he lives out
of state, but he drove the van with his family somewhere.
And when you got this van, yeah, it's nice. It
was a taller car. I gotta say, because like if
it's if you have no family, I think that's a
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beautiful way for you to pull up with the homies.
Like the cool kids in a lot of high schools,
they had some old van. Oh yeah, they just smoked
weed in right, and they're like, well his airbrush van.
Guy gonna graduate? Probably not, but we're gonna have a
great time along the way. Exactly. Shout out to the
van drivers at my school, Kyle White who had an
old like a con A line van. You smoked, weat
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out of there. Um. Also, my friend Ty, he had
a forward wind Star. We used to absolutely do all
kinds of stuff inside of Yeah. I really like a
forward wind Star though. Really missed that one. Yeah, my
older sister's boyfriend used to drive around in a white
mini van with lights underneath it. The fucking underglow. What
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was it like at the top, it was just it
was yeah, just the men. Yeah she was. She was
dating a guy with a fucking underglow. Kid on his
mini vans have rims. It had to have had m Yeah. Yeah,
what kind of van was like an astro? I forget
the sound system? Yeah yeah yeah. He ended up, uh present,
(14:16):
getting shootout with the police in the van. I don't know,
actually I think he's I don't care about his life?
What happened to the van? Where's the fucking van? Is
that for sale? Yeah? You know kind of mileage? It
hid Ben. What is a myth? What something people think
is true you know to be false? I think it is.
(14:38):
I think it's false to Okay again in that case,
I think it. I think it is. Let it go, guys,
I'll let it go. I think it is false that
people are unapproachable, and we were often taught, especially in
a place that like deifies celebrity or v I p
(14:58):
s or capital I capital the important people. I think, um,
I think that we are taught that these are somehow
not people like everybody, everybody you have ever met or
ever will meet. He's a human from Earth, right Allegedly,
unless you grew up like a billionaire, I can argue
you might be from a different dimension. Yeah. And and
(15:20):
it's strange because I've had conversations with people who apparently
big deals and I didn't recognize him. And there's like
some guy at the airport. He's on the phone with
his wife. He's like bitching about how he feels bad
and he's going to fix up the deck. And then
he talks to me like briefly about like he's like,
oh you know what I mean right now, I'm like,
all right, all right fine. And that guy's Cheach Maren. Yeah, yeah,
(15:44):
and he was really nice, and I think it was
because we didn't like there's no deification. I know, you
guys move in some pretty big circles. Funny dude. Yeah,
I went to school with Cheach his nephew. But and yeah,
he's a chill dude. Was his the sickest deck Check
out his mescal brand. Pretty fucking killer. What kind of
(16:07):
van does he have? No, No, no van at all.
But but his son is like a like a drumm
and bass DJ. It's kind of a funny. The family
is very interesting that. Yeah. I think the approach thing
is something too. Like I got over that very quickly
when I was doing like my old job, a lot
of video work with celebrities. In my mind, I'm like, fun,
I direct this, or like I have to explain a
(16:28):
thing and people like, you know, this person could be
really mean. In your mind, you feel like you're gonna
go out and be like, hi, so and so so
this is where we're thinking. And the worst case scenario
in your mind is like get the funk away from me.
But you realize too that you have to recognize everyone
sort of baseline humanity, and everyone is approachable and everyone's
a nice most people well, because long as like you
(16:49):
allow people to exist like we're we're always also surrounded
by a bunch of things that attempt to make us
feel obligated to do a thing right. And the fact
that matter is there are very few situations where you
are actually obligated to do a thing. So I don't think, like,
like picture anybody. Let's do some foreshadowing. H Let's like
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pictures someone who's both famous and shitty. Uh. Donald Trump
would be a great example. Even even that guy cannot
obligate you to do stuff right. And I'm not gonna
be glad handing and call him donning or something. But
if I use the restroom and guys there along with
the other Secret Service people, I imagine they don't be
(17:32):
at the same time. Actually, I know, it's like it's
like the main skill, right, I still think, you know,
they're just people who have the same hardwired physiological Oh gosh,
I have to seek constraints, you know, like Dumbar's number
and stuff. But what's Dumbar's number is that the number
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of people that you can remember the faith of that
you can actually know that are not like in the
numbers around a hundred and fifty or something. Yeah, I
saw you think about that a lot, because if you're
listening now, how many Twitter friends, friends? How many Facebook
friends and folks? Yeah? Yeah, speaking of President's secret service
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and peeing. Uh, there's a story about Lyndon Johnson. Once
he was in a meeting hall and just asked one
of his secrets orry. He was having a conversation with
someone that I guess he didn't want to cut off,
so he asked one of his secret service agents to
move in front of him and pissed on the secret
service agent while having conversation with the person while continuing
(18:33):
to have just he just pissed on the secret service
agent on his leg LBJ and this other person standing
another person creates a sandwich and it's like a circle. Yeah.
It was basically he was like, Hey, be the tree
that I take a piss on right now so that
I can keep talking to this person. And yeah, I
think Well he was also tall, so he was probably
(18:57):
looking and all he said by way of explanation, was
It's my prerogative son. Yeah, and that's what the Bobby
Brown song is based on. Is that that makes makes sense?
The one where he's his back is to the camera, Yeah,
the black and white one, and he's wearing like like
chaps basically on his arms. Yeah. What a time, What
(19:18):
a time to be alive. Yeah, my wife and I
actually recreated that picture for a wedding. Is that no
hands over the breast with that would be great? Alright,
(19:39):
quick follow up from yesterday because we talked about the
fact that our President Donald Trump sent Justin Trudeau a
just something he tore out of a magazine and like
the scribbled on it with the sharp b. D J.
B Red on Twitter pointed out this story that he
(19:59):
says favorite example of Trump doing this. Uh, this is
from Graydon Carter who reasonally retired as the editor of
Vanity Fair and started this magazine, Spy magazine that was
the first place to make fun of Trump's hands, and
Graydon Carter said, to this day, I received the occasional
envelope from Trump. There's always a photo of him, generally
(20:20):
a tear sheet from a magazine. On all of them,
he has circled his hand in gold sharpie, in a
valiant effort to highlight the length of his fingers. It's
just God, was so transparently insecure. It's such an easy
way to troll him to like knowing that. It's like
I would just send back photoshop things of him, would
(20:40):
like a little baby doll, like I don't know, this
is actually the undoctored photo I got Donald. Yeah, oh, God,
like I feel like that would just get would be
like like send something with photoshop tiny hands and then say, hey,
we we worked on making the hands just a little
bit bigger than normal, a little bit bigger, right, and
(21:04):
then show and then have like Obama in a video
with his hands slightly made even larger, and yeah, what
did what did he write to Trudeau? Because I read
the story first was a thing from I think it
was Bloomberg News or like one of those business magazines,
and on the cover it's Trudeau and it says the
anti Trump. So he circles and he goes, I hope
(21:27):
not like that, And the ambassador thought it was a prank, right,
And then he did another thing talking about trade deficits
that was completely just cherry picking data to just say
there was a deficit in one area, like in goods,
but if you added trade in services, there was a
surplus on the U S side. So then Trudeau sent
(21:47):
back the real thing and it was just sort of
very polite. But yeah, you know, he likes to use
what we call caveman Twitter, where it's like a rip
out sheet and then mail that to you. It's weird though,
because you know, I'm not saying that I have not
also wasted a morning or an afternoon, but I do
not have I'm gonna confess this and just confirm the
(22:09):
rumors are true. I do not have access to nuclear weapons.
And I feel like when you're prioritizing your life based
on ship like that, it's amazing, unprecedented, It's it's terrifying.
All Right, we're gonna take a quick break. We'll be
right back, and we're back. There's probably some weird noises
(22:41):
coming in. Just we have a set up on like
a weird mic set up on a tiny coffee table,
and its storms apparently, according to people who live in
Orlando this time of year, at storms between uh somewhere
between like three ish or to six ish, like clockwork. Kay,
(23:05):
I'm into it. Yeah, you know, I mean, I love weather.
Just being in l A where it's the two seasons
are hot and not that hot. Yeah, so it freaks
me out. I gotta I gotta be honest with you guys,
when whenever I'm in l A, like the weather is
always it's it's weird because time just stretches on, you don't.
I hadn't realized how much I counted on seasons to
(23:28):
like break down when like a year had passed, like
just like subtly in the back of my mind. But
it's just one long expanse of sameness. Yeah, anyways, let's
talk about Yeah, let's pick it up. Yeah, so narc
fucker turd is still off to the sand bullshit because
we have out hint it seems to be narc Suckerberg.
(23:51):
Now I like narc fucker turd. Yeah, I like it.
The So, this news came out that apparently there were
human beings transcribing people's audio messages from like from FB Messenger.
And this is from this article I think in the
Wall Street Journal. It says Facebook Incorporate has been paying
hundreds of outside contractors to transcribe clips of audio from
users of its services. Uh. The work has rattled the
(24:13):
contract employees who were not told where the audio was
recorded or how it was obtained, only to transcribe it.
Then they're hearing Facebook users conversations, sometimes with vulgar content,
who do not know why Facebook needs them transcribed. Their
explanation is like, we're just checking if the AI is
actually like holding up to like when human beings actually
(24:35):
like listening to it. That's why the whole things that
you know that that that's what that's what it is. Um.
So when they were asked about it, they did confirm
that they were doing it, but they said it will
no longer do so, and they said, this is weird.
This is where they like snitch on other companies, say
much like Apple and Google, we paused human review of
audio more than a week ago. Um. And then they
(24:56):
said the people who like have their ship transcribed were
those who opted to have their voice chats transcribed. But
that didn't protect people who maybe the other party in
a conversation might not have opted into it. It didn't
matter because that person had trent like O, didn't you
just gotta know not to talk to those people, like
stop using Facebook messaging. Yeah, Also I wonder how that
(25:18):
works because right legislation always lags behind technology, right, so
in some states it's just like a one party consent thing, right.
And uh, Also, I gotta say, I wonder all the
time how much Facebook's pr spent on the idea to
just refer to the guy as Mark, like whenever you
(25:39):
read a public release, so he has no last name.
And I don't think your share status yet, bro, It's
it's weird, it's insidious. Also, you know Facebook's coming out
with a currency or attempting to Ye, right, I saw that,
and yeah, so that that could be bad, right, explain why, thanks, Jack,
give it a swing first? The could you help me
(26:00):
out with a nickname again for this narc Buckerberg's yeah, alright,
So the snitchery continues. I think in that Facebook is
releasing various beating around the bush statements. They want to
create something called libra l I b r A and
(26:22):
it will be a partnership with other companies such as
like Uber I think maybe one. And the idea is
it's virtual currency that is you know, I don't know. Look,
I didn't write to him. What do you not call him? Facebooks?
Like that's the easiest lift, right, because you to to
make it sound super innocuous. You want to give it
a name like a foreign international assassin, Verry James Bond. Right, yeah,
(26:47):
so this, this is already raising a lot of concerns,
primarily because there is a possibility that this would enable
a private entity to function as a central bank, which
is a big no no. Uh. As you guys know, currency, uh,
currency moves a lot of things, right, like from the
(27:09):
fall of Libya to uh deciding whether or not to
tip your lift driver and the song cash rules everything around.
Thank you get the money, poet. But yeah, I mean
people have been saying just almost does a thought exercise
like comparing Google and Facebook two countries, both in terms
of population and wealth and power. But this like almost
(27:32):
formalizes it a little bit. It's yeah, yeah, you don't
need those other forms of They did something earlier a
few years back, I want to say, two with the
concept called Facebook credits way less cool name Bond villain wise,
but that got pulls pretty quickly. The question is not
whether it will happen, because I think it will be
(27:55):
a real thing. The question is whether it will happen
in a sustain will wait, whether it will continue, will
it gained steam? It's kind of like it's kind of
like a centralized bitcoin. Without getting too into the needs,
I would say, if you want the people who are
transcribing your three am you up? Nice ass messages? Uh,
(28:17):
then if you want those people to also have their
hands in your wallet another right exactly, go ahead and
side up. They're like, hey, sure you want to leave
the bank, because let me just play this message back
for you. You really just want to really bad, you know,
just coming back. It's like, m yeah, we transcribe that. Yeah,
we also have the message after that where you're weeping. Yeah,
(28:39):
let's talk about what we've come to call here on
the daily like guys chernobyl two point oh, chrenoble to
electrical glue. Yeah. Um. It's again one of these things
slowly developing because when we first started were like, okay,
what we know is that it was people suspect it
was a failed missile test. The one that putin was
like flexing on everyone is like it can get fucking
(29:01):
anywhere in the world, like you're no one is fucking safe.
It'll out maneuver every anti missile defense system. Yeah. The
Skyfall or whatever kind of a sick name to be
it's in a bond name though. People are just going
out of their way to come up with sick names
for ship. Yeah, They're like, we're not gonna like be
boring anymore. Sorry, guys, I gotta say I appreciate. Yeah.
(29:23):
I feel like there was like a turning point because
micro Soft is the most like non threatening, it's tiny
and soft. Don't mind us for tiny and soft. And
then they you know, Apple is a pretty anocubus item.
But now people are just like, yeah, welcome from unveiling
a flaccid Dick's windows x XP. Yeah. Yeah, so with
(29:49):
this one there, now they're starting to be a little
more information coming out. First that a lot of their
radiation levels that they were checking in the area had
spiked up to sixteen times the normal level. UM, and
they're still kind of like, you know, but the thing
is the Russian take on it is like very much
like what we saw in Chernobyl, where it's like there
was an incident and it's all contained. But then people
(30:12):
are like, then, why did you shut down part of
the sea where this happened. Why why are people tracking
one of your like nuclear clean up boats going that way? Um,
and the town nearby a city of like a hundred
eighty thousand people. They were saying they were evacuation orders,
and people are like, whoa, what what the funk is
going on with this? But then they were conflicting reports
(30:32):
that said, actually it's canceled. Everything is very chill, and
they were only asked to leave because they were going
to be some military exercise nearby, but those were actually canceled.
So it's all very chill at the moment um. So
I'm not sure exactly how many people have left or
have not left. But what's interesting is like there are
a lot of people very vocal about the fact that
(30:54):
they're like, why aren't you saying anything about this, Like
if it's not bad, then give us the whole extent
of how at it isn't you know, rather than just
being so you know, mitigating or mitigating everything exactly. And
they're really really like just concerned because they've seen what
has happened in the past. And it's important to note
how little coverage it's getting on Russian state TV. Two
(31:16):
people who like sort of analyze the media there, they
said that Russia twenty four is there like NonStop news channel.
They mentioned the incident ten hours after the first statement
that where they vaguely said, oh, is something to do
with a new propulsion system, and people like but it's
all fine. Ten hours after that, then five hours later
(31:40):
another national TV channel only did a thirty second segment
on it. What what do you say in seconds? Yeah,
and from this town where everything's chill for those of
you worried about the incident and that really far off
place where you not everything has been declar their v
(32:00):
chill moving on um. And then five hours later there
another channel only did a thirty six second mention of it.
So in the first fucking what fifteen hours of like
the statement coming out of the government, the news was like,
chill and if we do it's thirty six seconds. Now
here's some footage of Vladimir Putin's scoring hockey goals and
professional and now that pigeon that saluted Putin for five
(32:25):
hours on a loop uh ship. So we still don't
know anything. Yeah, But the thing is it does really
smack of Chernobyl in the sense that it's you're talking
about an overly ambitious government project UM, and they seem
to be a cutting corners in their development process to
bring their new war toy to market as soon as possible,
(32:45):
because a lot of analysts who like work in these
kind of propulsion systems are like, they were like very
surprised that the Russians were even testing it. Yet they're like,
this is such a very it's going to take a
while to really dial in how to have a nuclear
reactor on a missile to fuel it and keeping that
stable while being able to do all this other ship.
(33:05):
They're just basically saying like, I don't know, that seemed
a little too quick for them to just start testing
it and so yolo, and then again do you have
the scientists who were behind it, those like the first
five casualties, So we're like, I think blown out into
the water or something like there was something it was.
It seems like the their death was much more violent
(33:27):
than they hadn't died though. Think about how fun it
would have been when they were blown out into the water.
It's an impromptu water park. Yeah, exactly. To get an
idea of Russia's general ethos when it comes to technological advances,
just read up on like what the space race was
like for for them. They were just like basically like
(33:48):
firing people in the general direction of the moon and
like hoping they got there. You just like there's like
all this audio that has leaked out since then of
like people just dying horribly like as they like, you know,
just the rocket explodes, the rocket like heats up and
like they just bake inside of it. Like some people
(34:09):
like crashed into Siberia and then we're like I had
to fight off wolves for like days and didn't some
Italian ham radio operators like here some of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
So you're a gaga and I believe butchery in the
Russian Uh, this is the first guy to have made
it back, which is which is weird. Always think about
(34:32):
that because that's a hell of an asterix put on
the end of it. Like I'm the first man in
space who made it back back who didn't melt right. Yeah,
but they will just blow their finest scientific minds on
a very important project or in a project that's important
to their dear leader. Well, speaking of Russia, let's talk briefly.
(34:55):
Let's get a couple updates about Jeffrey Epstein. The I
feel like people and you know, this is a constant
refrain for me, but I think people were misquoting Joe
Scarborough in the in the aftermath of this suicide air
quotes he was like, this really smacks of Russia, and
people like he thinks Russia did it. It's like, no,
(35:17):
this is just how things happened in Russia. The guy
who knows stuff is in prison and then suddenly he's
dead and that's just it. Oh man, he had this
wild allergic reaction exactly. Maybe the food. Yeah, anyways, I
don't know, fell in a bunch of these weird umbrellas
that had poisoned on him. I can't believe he wanted
(35:39):
to kill himself so much that he shot himself twice
in the back of the head and then put himself
in a double bag and then jumped in a tube
of acid right like you know, he had his mindset
on one heck of a Rube Goldberg machine. What have
we learned since we first brought up the story a
few days back? The Daily Mail found Slane Maxwell. One
(36:01):
thing we haven't learned is how to pronounce that we did.
We did pull up like a French pronunciation video and
it was like Maxwell, we calls she's been staying inside
a mansion in Boston with her tech millionaire boyfriend, and
since the story kind of broke open wide, she hasn't
(36:24):
left their house. Her boyfriend is walking the dog and
doing the food show. Do not fucking let her leave
the fucking country either, I mean, I hope they true
if they're really serious about tying up these loose ends,
haul everyone's ass in. But you know, we can trust
h Bar to do that is so weird though, when
you're at that level and you have to have this
(36:47):
sort of this very acted out, surface level conversation like,
oh no, do you think they might be a flight risk? Yes? Yes, yeah,
this woman who's everyone's now being like, oh yeah, this
was like one of Jeffrey Epstein's right hand and people
like recruiters and groomers. Yeah. And then she's hiding out. Well,
her husband goes and does a shopping also going to
(37:09):
a non extradition country very distressingly alarmingly easy, you know
what I mean, Like, we can, guys, we can fucking
do that. What are they going to do? You know
what I mean? Yeah? Another update from Ghisland Maxwell is
that she apparently told people that Epstein had the entire
(37:30):
island wired for video uh, presumably for blackmail that was
something that he had mentioned to one of the children
that he was raping. He said that he asked them
to like report back to him on famous and powerful people,
the details of the sex they had with powerful people,
(37:51):
so that he could put them in their pocket. But
there's also been some whispers that he had different places
wired for the yo And yeah, this is just another
report that seems to point in that direction. Uh. There's
a New York Times reporter who spoke to him on
background a couple of years ago because there was a
rumor he was trying to substantiate that Epstein was advising
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Elon Musk around the time of a lot of Elon
Musk's questionable behavior, and apparently he was. This is true. Yeah,
he was advising him on a couple of things around
the time that Elon Musk like broke all those laws
when he was like We're gonna go private and I'm
gonna buy back all the stock or whatever. So when
he did that joke, I believe so yeah, wow, oh yeah,
(38:37):
that sounded like a wild series of days, right, wasn't
a who was it was his Zalia Banks. Yeah, but
this New York Times reporter spoke to him on background,
meaning like off the record, but because he's dead now,
the reporter felt like they could tell the story. And
the story he got was just he spent a day
(38:59):
with Epstein and a couple of the like highlights where
that he said the prosecution of sex with teenage girls
is a historic abarition and he thinks that it's insane.
But he also once again bragged he had dirt on
a bunch of very powerful and very rich people, including
drug use, which is a new wrinkle. I mean, I
(39:21):
assumed there was probably drug use, but yeah, it's like
the combo meal, Like one crime is the burger, the
other crime is the those would be the price. Everybody
has a vice and it was his whole jam to
figure out what your vice was, get you on camera
doing it, and then as asked if you would sign
over your legal guardianship to him or your your Manhattan residents. Yeah, yeah,
(39:47):
shout out Lexley. There's a billy. Wayne Davis texted me
a video on YouTube just now of like all this
drone footage of the pedophile. Yeah, so like it's like
but but it's while the f b I is there,
so some guy think just flew his drone from a
nearby island to get to just see it, and you
see all the FBI guys like they're like blacking out
(40:07):
the windows and stuff. I've also been very curious, like
what's even there that is usable at this point. Temple
looking thing, you know, se temple not to profile. He
was very devout. I don't know what even God he
would even pray to. But yeah, the other thing too,
(40:29):
Now it's just gossip, So let's just give that, you know,
put that caveat in front of it. Is that there
was a photo that came out recently of Naomi Campbell.
I think she was having a party where you see
Ghislaine Maxwell and Virginia Juffrey or Jeffrey the the accuser
who was like at the time his sex slave, who
was seventeen at the time of this photo, being like
led on into this party, and people were like speculating
(40:52):
it's like that she might actually have a lot to
add to this because she she does have connections to
Jeffrey Epstein. But you know, I think everyone is trying
to find its like who knows enough to really sort
of create accountability for a lot of these people. So
I think a lot of people on the internet in
the gossip side, like will Naomi Campbell say something, well,
(41:14):
she step up? The fashion industry seems to be deeply
implicated because the you know, heads of modeling agencies were
where he got a lot of access to young women.
I mean, that's why, that's why the three that's why
the three of us didn't go into modeling. Yeah. I
(41:35):
was too ugly. Yeah, at the time, they're like, oh,
we're looking for something a little more blue eyed. They
wanted no, they wanted a brown kid with blue eyes,
and was like that doesn't exist. Ms, you're gonna have
to do with me. I want to be in this
snappack commercial. I once did a waiting job at a
(41:57):
party for manoelblonic uh and all the waiters were male models,
and like my friend got me into it like so
and just was like, yeah, he's a model too. And
the guy who like ran the show like just knew
I wasn't like immediately just like he could like look
at me and tell like I didn't have the bone stretch?
(42:17):
What did you? Was just like where do you model?
Like yeah, is that how your hair usually is? During
Like just wow, like are you preparing for a role?
Do you do a lot of modeling in Eastern Europe, right,
(42:40):
so you're like a hand model or alright, guys, so
you build a lot of model trains. Uh. Seriously, though honestly,
it's incredibly strange. There's so many other strings, right, other
other rabbit holes and breadcrumb trails, and I don't know
it's gonna happen. You know, it's weird. Matt Chrismin on
(43:04):
Chobo trap House has like gone off the rails. He's like,
I think Jeffrey Epstein wasn't a real guy. He was
a cipher that they used to transfer money through. I
was like, whoa, oh yeah, so I mean but I
can see how that would happen. Like you just read
NonStop get Epstein, and you can get the circular thoughts
and eventually you're like, you're like, you know Epstein. Every
(43:28):
person sees things internally neutral thing about it. So tons
of hashtags that are like to blessed, to be stressed,
blessed uh, and also people who do a lot of
acronym ng great great sign. Yeah yeah, all right, we're
gonna take another quick break and we'll be right back.
(44:00):
And we're back and uh, myles I personally don't give
a shit about spoilers. They kind of a little bit
actually same, I'm the only the first time Once upon
a Time in Hollywood is the first movie that I'm
really really glad I didn't have spoiled for me. So
thank you, sir, because you had seen it. Like, I
(44:22):
just don't talk about anything movie wise sometime, so I'm
not like everyone like, oh, I'm not going to see
anything for other people. I'm just like that. Look, I
got a lot of going, I got a lot of tables. Man.
Usually Janine Garoffala famously said the cable guy. Yeah, but
usually I don't care because movies stress me out right. Well,
(44:42):
you like, I want to know what You're the same
with sports too, I fucking can't. I need it. Like
the fucking thrill of watching sports, for sure is to
like live and die by that scoreboard and you know,
because you know, obviously the downside is the low this
could be just soul crushing, but the highs like when
(45:02):
you don't know that the outcome and it actually becomes
like legendary. You need those, You need those. That's when
you were cool with strangers, right all of a sudden,
being like in the Space there's a big win and
you're both like and you're jumping up and down your
high five just flooded with chemicals. Yeah, well but I
(45:23):
guess with yeah, with TV shows and stuff not as bad.
I think the only time would be like a finale.
Maybe I don't want to know. But aside from that,
like if someone you know, like I knew the sixth
Cents ending before I saw it, and I wasn't pissed
humble brag. Huh. Well you know, someone said friends who
six like one of those things are like people you know.
(45:48):
At that time that was considered like the and someone
was like, yeah, he's like fucking dead at the end,
and I was like, huh okay, and then I saw
it and I was still like all right. But to me,
the journey wasn't so much that twist, like it was
everything else around it. But anyway, I mean, both that
and Usual Suspects are rewatchable movies, even oh yeah, even
(46:11):
though they're big twisty twists at the end. But anywhere
Kevin Spacey fans over here, yes, um yes, ai his
maybe the selected yeah, well Alan iverson the answer maybe
the answer as well. Uh wow, that's poetic. That AI
could be the answer to creating a spoiler for Internet. Now,
(46:33):
there are researchers at the university you see, San Diego
who have been working on like some kind of AI
algorithm to try and basically detect spoilers and censor them
so people can like just fearlessly go into an article
and make sure like anything that could be a spoiler
would be redacted. However, it's a lot fucking harder than
they realized, so they call it spoiler net. To train
(46:57):
spoiler net, the team went looking for large data sets
of sentences containing spoilers spoiler alert. They found none, so
they created their own by collecting more than one point
three million book reviews annotated with spoiler tags by book reviewers.
The tags and compass sentences that include spoilers and hide
them behind a quote view spoiler link in the text.
The reviews were collected from good Reads blah blah blah.
(47:20):
So they really found at first there wasn't really an
effective way to actually do this because there's still a
lot of issues, especially with like semantic nuances, so they said,
in addition, the same word may have different semantic meetings
in different contexts. For example, green is just a color
in one book review, but it can be the name
of an important character and a signal for spoilers in
(47:40):
another book. Identifying and understanding these differences is challenging, so
they're sort of saying, like, we have something imperfect. But
it almost seems that even then, the bigger picture here
is that it's like, yeah, it might be very hard
to do this, or you're gonna have to feed this
thing a lot more data before I can start picking
out stuff like that. So the conclusion of their scientific
(48:01):
study is like, science is hard. Science is hard. This
is tough. This is tough, dude. Honestly, like, come on, man,
don't bust my balls about this, dude. It's a good
idea when we thought about it. Thanks for coming to
my ted talk. There's three snacks outside. Yeah, but they
did run it on a few single sentence reviews about
TV shows, and it was able to detect spoilers at
(48:24):
a seventy so it's not like that's not that perfect.
But but it is getting better and better. But yeah,
I think that's where they're really realizing. It's like, Okay,
we've got to train this ship. I mean, that's pretty good.
I only read sentence long reviews. For the reason was
that they were trying to also have applications for it
on Twitter, so that way you can like if you
(48:46):
you know, if you're doing it through the browser, it
could be like a browser plug in that could just
be running as you because the spoiler can sneak up
on you. Yeah, would go on through your timeline, you know,
in between casey da picks. Hey man, spoilerler might come
up when you're in l A. Dude, I'll take you
to the case it is, but you'll cry, no, ship, really,
it's just loaded. It's loaded. You're gonna get listeria. Dude. Cool.
(49:14):
You know that's the way I want to go out.
No spoilers, No, there's some, there's some really next level.
I'm just like, clock your whole soul. Let's do case
it is. But but also just personally, do you want
an AI plus percent? Uh spoiler A. I feel like
it's only improved my life in the ways I don't
(49:36):
know about, like where it's happening and like medical whatever.
I'm like, right, I'm not one who's like, fuck, I
need an AI solution to like my human problem, like
of my day to day life. I think there are
probably ways that it's already helping with, like navigation apps. Yeah,
that sh I'm like fine with, but I've never been
like the be there's well, because the whole thing is
(50:03):
God forbid, you don't fucking look at your phone for
a few hours or just say the funk off Twitter
or Facebook, where the spoilers normally reside, and I think
that speaks more to people's inability to get to log
the funk off. Right. It's also kind of this uh
kind of foisting responsibility onto everyone who is not me
to say, like, I haven't seen uh whatever, Like I
(50:26):
haven't seen the last episode of Lost, so the billions
of the rest of you shut the funk up until Thursday. Yeah,
it's weird. It's just like that for you, right, I
guess what, motherfucker they were dead the whole time? Wait what? Yeah?
Or ory? Okay, so I think the terrible example from that,
(50:48):
but you guys see what I'm saying. Yeah, of course,
of course, people who like read a lot about a
movie or a show and then are mad when I
get spoiled for them. It's like, yeah, what why is that?
Let me read the wiki on my own guy, right, Uh,
let's talk about Arizona, not the state. The fucking iced tea, dude,
(51:09):
they're fucking They're the most chill, fucking drink brand, dude.
The Arizona Iced Tea knows it's brand gets into cannabis.
It's into cannabis. I don't see the relation between the two.
I don't know. Growing up in California, like cracking a
Arizona iced tea, like the green Tea wine or the
(51:33):
mighty was that mighty mango whatever. The mango is just
pure like frontose corns are up. It was because it's
a cheap, tall can of pure sugar bliss. So I
grew up smoking blunts and drinking her Arizona iced tea
or Snapple peach tea and a lot of clothes cigarettes
because that's just what you do when you're scumting. But
(51:54):
it's weird. I think also because now they've also realized
like how much nostalgia's wrapped up in their brand, like
that that very pacific green tea can that has like
the cherry. Yeah, like they put that on shoes and
fucking I think it was an Adidas collaboration and like
they had to shut down the collab because so many
people were about to mob the store for it again,
(52:14):
like they're putting it on hoodies and oh yea. So
in a way, it's just like, huh, maybe maybe we
can do a little four weight for a into weed.
So they've just basically there is a deal announced that
they're um doing a little licensing deal with Dixie Brands,
which is a Denver based producer of like weed vapes,
(52:35):
like edibles, drinks, tinctures, and topical creams. And the board
still has to approve it, but it would basically allow
Arizona to like buy a like a ten million dollar
steak in the manufacturer, which would you know, essentially open
up the door because right now this company distributes in
like five states that have recreational weed um and basically
(52:57):
like maybe we'll see that like green tea flavor he
like vapues or like drinks that are like Arizona iced
tea HC. Yeah. Is like the dry mouth and stuff
like that one of the things that they've cured in
terms of with the we with smoking, not with smoke. Yeah. Yeah,
it's so busy drying. Yeah, but you know it is
(53:18):
what it is. You gotta crack open his own I mean,
but the thing, Yeah, I will say, you know in
the green Tea zone, you'd hope again when we mentioned
all like how these huge companies come into it and
are like, yeah, we're gonna work around two with that
thing that put millions of people of color in prison.
You know, I would love to see one of these
companies say, I guess, well, we're doing this, but actually
(53:40):
all of our money is going working to something else,
because I feel like that that's still is the sort
of big elephant in the room with all of this,
like you know, fantastic legalization that's happening. He's like, they're
not actually doing any any damage repair to the countless
people have been like you had weed butter in jail
for ever. Yeah, and now it's a bunch of suits
(54:01):
going you guys heard this marijuana big business. You guys
remember Zones Jonas Zonas. I icking love them. And then, uh,
you know, it's strange because one would hope that they're
doing just the thing that you describe. And and it's
the tricky part where like if you ever go to
a show you see something where they say a portion
(54:23):
of the proceeds benefit charity as a right exactly and uh.
And I hope that that happens, but I don't really
see it unless somebody, Unless somebody purposely goes into it.
You should write the Arizona or I mean, I think
or basically it has happened at a federal level. It's
like where it's like, you know what you're gonna do.
(54:43):
We're legalizing marijuana, and part of that is going to
be expunging the records of people who have just had
cannabis charges and letting them out of jail. Like I
think that's the least you can do. But I feel
like they're being proposed, like I've heard comm LA's say
stuff that she's down for legalization. I don't know if
about the expunging records part, because in California they're doing that.
(55:03):
They're like, okay, we're legalizing it and we're trying to
help people get like retroactively exactly. But I will we'll see.
That could end up being someone's policy platform. You'd hope
it would be. This could be big for us. Yes, yeah.
My next question, what do you think about a snap
a Lady streetwear line? Wow? Uh huh? I miss her
(55:25):
and the snack Wells ladies. Yeah, the snack Wells ladies.
I don't know, you know so funny. I didn't realize
it when as a kid when I saw the snack
Wos commercials due these like fucking delicious, and I remember,
like my mom again Immigrant moms hate buying shit that
isn't like just you know, normal cross table food. So
(55:47):
I'm like, mom, I really want that Mondo drink things
jankie fucking squeeze it absolutely not right, like you will
drink this like old apple juice from concentrate or something.
But anyway, I remember the snack Wos commercial and be
fucked up. I'm going and I grabbed the Devil's Food
snack Wells thing because I look like the most caky,
(56:08):
like delicious. I'm like, Mom, I want this. She's like no,
and I'm like I ain't and I started crying and
she got it for me. Cut to me getting to
the house tastes like absolute ship because I didn't realize
it was like a little calorie sugar free day I was.
So that was like my first instance of being like
the commercial had me all fucked up and I didn't
(56:31):
know what I was getting into. It's snack well nuts,
snack good That's how they get you exactly. That is
how they get you, Ben. It has been a pleasure
of having you. Where can people find you? Follow you?
Yes you can. I would do a number of shows
when I'm when I'm not dropping by to hang out
with you guys here on Daily Skeys. You can find
(56:52):
me at Ridiculous History. Uh some variation of that phrase
across the Internet where me and my pal Nuell look
at all the brilliant, beautiful, disturbing. Dare I say ridiculous
things over the course of this human civilization? And then
a show that applies critical thinking to conspiracy theories, who
allegations of the paranormal and more. Also true crime, investigatory
(57:15):
stuff that is stuff they don't want you to know. Uh,
conspiracy stuff on Twitter, conspiracy stuff show on Instagram. You
can see me getting kicked out and kicked into various
countries on my own Instagram and named in a burst
of creativity at Ben bullin. Wait, you got kicked out
of a country? Yeah, that's fucking awesome. Uh well uh
(57:39):
uh no no, but I kind of got into North Korea.
Do we talk about that? No? I don't think we did.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, well we'll catch up off Mike.
But guys, thank you so much for having me. I
would love to have you guys on h on my
show at some point. I love to be would you
guys be would you guys be cool? Yeah? Are on
(58:01):
a scale? Went to Tim where we joking? Wise you
in seriousness? Okay, yeah, let's do it. Let's make it happen. Ben,
is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Uh? There is
a magic realism butt? What you guys heard about that? Uh?
Yeah yeah? And then there's not a wolf which is
(58:24):
blowing up now it's just not a wolf. Yeah, it's
just like the all calps things. Clearly just a wolf
pretending to be a human, like I love wearing clothes
and walking with my leg kind of stuff. You know,
because the at the handle is at sick of wolves.
Let's see what's the last one? At what point in
(58:45):
the burrito does my unending anxiety recede? Or is that
not what these are? Four? So they'll build an entire
horde tube to get fish from one place to another.
But if a wolf theoretically wanted to use a climbing
wall just to see what all the fuss is about,
they have no options. Uh, Miles, we can people find you?
And what's a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh? I mean look,
(59:10):
you can find me and follow me on Twitter and
Instagram at Miles of Gray or just sobbing in front
of Epcot because we don't have time to go really
bummed about this new development. Um, but maybe we'll have
a chance to go to the Holy Land experience. Yea Um.
A tweet that I like is from a partner on
Charla at a part napkin It says I would love
(59:31):
to see an added feature to business slash restaurant descriptions
on yelp answering can I cry here? Great for crying,
good for families? No good for crying and sports? Uh
at Liz Hackett. Elizabeth Hackett tweeted, my favorite part of
adulthood is thinking back on being a child and trying
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a new song, I believe. I think it's new from
Kareem Riggins, who is one of my favorite drummers. He's
also like a producer. He kind of like occupies this
really interesting space in hip hop and just tremendous be
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Maker two. But please look up some of his drum
solos because his pocket fill is gnarly and his technique
is great. But this track is called Double Trouble from
Kareem Riggins on the album Alone Together. No, that's an
old album actually, so it is not new this but
it's new to me. You might as well be new
if it's new to you. New to you, what was
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that joke? Where isn't it a cartoon where some guys
in prison? He's like, all right, Zene, it's new to me.
I think it's Charles Manson maybe in Family Guy. It's
pretty good. I don't know. Sorry, my brain works like
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Hello the Internet, and welcome to season episode four of
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This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
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My name is Jack O'Brien, a K out Jack take cows,
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no fools, just ZiT. That's courtesy Crispy Mean Doughnut, and
I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co host,
Mr Miles Gray. He's got a weed fad hanging on
each chump. He's got the ball at works with gravity blazon,
He's got his bone repills and garbage. Fast Food takes
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on the zeitgeys for the good of the nation. Miles
and Jack try to stop confusion. D Dzy is the
news lousion Dude, I love that little Sacks sample. Anyway,
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you know what, someone hit the exacta today too. That
was also Christi Yamaguchi main a k Crispy meme. Don't know.
I had a feeling. Yeah yeah, so it's yeah, I
mean people are just as are getting dialed in more
and more. We may just have to do a record
charity record for sure, be the skits, the interstitials. Uh,
(01:36):
then you'll be the character mad podcaster. Yes, well we're
through to be joined by the hilarious and talented podcast hosts.
Not not a mad podcaster, just a great podcaster. Mr
Ben Bowling, ak am I man Ben Bowling. Oh my god, guys,
I got a second ded. This is my second time
(01:57):
appearing on this David Zeitgeist. And now you're man. Now
know a lot of people were fooled by the slick
photoshop job, and it did on the hand romo photos
and they're like, whoa I was She's a magician, folks,
Yeah she fake honestly you guys. I I was flummixed.
I was like, where then did I black out? Yeah?
(02:19):
I gotta call my doctor. It happened again. Speaking of
deep fakes, did you see the deep fake where Bill
Hayter turns into Tom Cruise? Yes? Man, I guess, I
guess that's the new level of celeberty notoriety. We we
know we've popped when we are deep faked. Yea. For
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people who haven't seen it, it's Bill Hayter doing impressions
of Tom Cruise and who else and he turns into
them when he does it, and it's kind of subtle. Yeah,
because you're like, shape shifting is real. But if any
listeners are really sick with the deep face, let us
know and then maybe I'll send you up and you
can get me saying all kinds of stuff. But I'm
(03:02):
already saying all kinds of wild ship here, so good
luck there's enough footage or enough audio of us saying
just everything that people could edit. Well, we mentioned all
kinds of problematic stuff, like racist groups that like sometimes
you're like, you know what, honestly, to me, Nazis are
lit like wait, hold on, well, Ben, We're gonna get
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to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're
talking about today. We have another good example of Trump's
mailing habits. Uh. We're going to talk about how Facebook
is fucking you just yet another way add some texture
to all the many ways they're fucking you. We're gonna
talk about Chernobyl two point oh. We have an update,
(03:46):
there a lot of updates. Um, We're gonna talk about
what the democratic field is looking like on the latest
polling and who might run for VP. Uh. And we're
just gonna check in with the Jeffrey Epstein story. All
of that and plenty plenty more on today's daily guys.
But first, Ben, we like to ask our guess, what
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is something from your search history that's feeling about who
you are? Oh? Man, okay, So my answers I'm a
little better prepared today. All right. Uh, my answers are
gonna be weirdly consistent. Case Dias. I went really deep
into this case da thing. I am emotionally involved with it.
I have like three feelings a year, and one of
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them right now is case Dias. So if you looked
at by search history, what you would see, despite various
things we all google all the time on both mobile
or laptop or whatever, I'm weirdly into case Dias. Like, yeah,
I formed online friendships with some people over the past
three weeks, and it's all we talk about. You. I
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am very serious. Well, I mean, look, I'm not gonna
save the case ada. I love a case of dea.
Thank you. What is it that you looked at you
and you Is it just the simplicity of it? I
think so? Uh? And also so as you guys know,
I am based in Atlanta. I'm from Atlanta, and one
of the things that I love about the city is
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a long time ago I figured out the way to
be the most innocuous, the way to be like the
most of the place you're in is to just be
casually eating something while you're walking around. And in a
case of like a small case, I have a design
which I will not sure right now, but uh thinking
and it's like a one handed thing. I don't know.
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It ties into my so like one of my big
dreams has always been, you know how there's big political
speeches and there are a bunch of people have to
awkwardly stand behind the person and occasionally like subtly nod
without taking focus. I want to be that guy and
halfway through I either want to take out like a
pocket case yeah and still like nod with graptas uh.
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And I have also put my visible case down. Yeah,
thank you, thank you. I committed. I I will also
then in my such history have a lot of footage
is literally me trying to find the right phrase for
important person standing people behind them right case. Yeah. So
that's where I'm what is the what's the secret to
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a good case ida in your opinion, since you have
such a strong opinion on case. I'm not an expert,
but I'm a strong opinion that all right. So uh
so I think, well, there's the there's the flower v.
Corn debate, right, uh and then where do you fall? Uh?
You know, I got to tell you I'm going I'm
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going flower, and you know you have to. I honestly
think a case it has to be flower if it's
like a molita or something which is a little bit
closer than it has to be corn. But I feel
like for the way I was introduced to case it is,
which is through like gringo Mexican food, But I don't
know if they are they making case it is with
corn tortillas in Mexico? Is that the deal? I of
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people who are like, yo, it has to be corn
because I've never heard I've never seen a case a
deal with corn I made. I made a few. I've
been doing some experiments and uh, the results are in guys,
yeah flower. Yeah, So vegans, I'm interested, and I try
a vegan case adia. Uh next week, I've got so. Yeah.
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I know You've giving yourself enough of a runway to
build up to that. Thank you. Yeah, I made lightly. Yes,
you've had this on the on the calendar since late February. Yeah,
try Vegan case Adia. Yeah yeah August. What is something
you think is overrated? Uh? You know what? You know
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our previous episode, I said that I felt talking on
the phone was largely overrated. Thank you guys for supporting that.
Shout out to my mom. Oh yeah remember that. Uh.
And I think you guys made a really good point
about taking road trips and using it as an opportunity
to catch up on photos. Right now, I have to say,
I think, uh, networking is overrated. But if I'm being honest,
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if I'm being honest, is probably just because I'm very
bad at it. You know, small talking like getting to
just meet new people. Is that what you mean by networking?
Because Jack I will small talk all day. Yeah, I
love strangers. I never learned that lesson from childhood. But
when I have to speak with people in like a
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three minute window and we have to convey like our
journalistic ws right, it's weird, you know, totally. Yeah, that's
a very special skill. I'm also not good at that.
When it's funny because we are at a convention right now, Yeah,
pulled back the curb. We pulled back the curtain yesterday
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because we'll look, we're recording live in a hotel room
right now. Okay, the curtain is back with a great
view of the pool, great view of the pool and
Lazy River, and we'll just leave it at the water slide. Yeah,
there was like there were moments I forgot, you know,
we were seeing and at her panel and then I'm
walking around the floor and then like someone like just
randomly came up and was like, hey, how you doing.
I'm blah blah blah, And I was like, what the funk, dude,
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And I forgot. I'm like, right, this is a networking environment.
In my mind, I was like, well, we have to
do on these panels and other stuff, and we have
to record the show. And I was caught off guard
a little bit. But then I realized, you know what,
it's time to give back, and and I give back.
I mean, just treat the person like a human who
asked me a question, rather than like, what are you
weird or something? Dude, Dude, what do you want? Dude?
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What are you selling? Nothing? I'm this guy, Okay, I'm sorry.
I'm from the city and I'm very cynical. Without disclosing specifics.
I was walking by earlier today through this this big
people area, hang out area, whatever, and uh, I did
hear someone mid small talk or mid networking say, so,
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what's what's your thing? That's a weird way. Yeah, it's like, hey,
what's this? What's your whole thing about? So if I said,
if I said that to somebody in the course of
a conversation, I would like spend many nights like cringing
thinking back about having said that. But I bet that
person was just like, yeah, but that's part of networking.
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And that's why I get to why you say it's
like you don't like it because you're bad at it,
But like when you have an opportunity, especially to be
around a bunch of people, because like if you're isolated
in some other city that doesn't have a robust like
media industry, like precisely coming to uh, you know, convention
or conference of people in that like you're gonna be
like you need to pick as many frames. So if
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you see me out there, please feel feeled to prick
my brain. My brain and for a few extra dollars
you can prick my brain. But let's just all meet
up and I'll give you the little advice I have,
which is probably only on like fast food. Definitely feel
free to approach. So many people are good at it though,
you know what I am in awe. Yeah, when you
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see someone who's like, just can small talk the funk
out of a room, remember every face and every name
when they're like Pomeranian Yankee doing you know, I'm baffled
by them, but I don't trust them. Yeah. Well, people
in sales right there, like they're just a few clicks
away from being a murderer. There's a Jedi thing it's
like and if it if it was evil, they'd be like,
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oh yeah, I stocked people. Yeah, but they're like, no,
I love money first. So I learned these details about
people I closed deals. What if something you think is
underrated besides case it is, thank you? Yeah I do
where that was going. Thank you. Yes, you know what
I am gonna say that I think other than case
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it is Jack, you know what I know. Let me
look through my notes like open mic, stand up, you
know what I gotta say. I think that you can
also say case it is, oh ship really don't give
him an out. He's got a brain on him. Thanks
wells uh, you know, I think in that I've switched sides.
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I was very very anti minivan for long time. As
you guys know. I used to host a car show
and I just hated minivans. They were like professionally in
the way on the road. But I sat in one
recently and my god, yeah, the game's changed. The game's changed.
(12:22):
It's which one man, Chrysler PACIFICA. Uh, the which one
did I hate? You know? Which one were you in? Oh?
I was in a I was in a town, country country.
You got it? Get out of my head. Chrysler. Yeah,
And I was like, there's so many cup holders in
this weird rolling studio apartment. Yeah. My buddy has one
to who he has a like a young family, and
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he was like, Yo, do how to get a van?
And I'm like, but he's like, but it's tight, dudemobile different.
And then we were he like he he lives out
of state, but he drove the van with his family somewhere.
And when you got this van, yeah, it's nice. It
was a taller car. I gotta say, because like if
it's if you have no family, I think that's a
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beautiful way for you to pull up with the homies.
Like the cool kids in a lot of high schools,
they had some old van. Oh yeah, they just smoked
weed in right, and they're like, well his airbrush van.
Guy gonna graduate? Probably not, but we're gonna have a
great time along the way. Exactly. Shout out to the
van drivers at my school, Kyle White who had an
old like a con A line van. You smoked, weat
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out of there. Um. Also, my friend Ty, he had
a forward wind Star. We used to absolutely do all
kinds of stuff inside of Yeah. I really like a
forward wind Star though. Really missed that one. Yeah, my
older sister's boyfriend used to drive around in a white
mini van with lights underneath it. The fucking underglow. What
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was it like at the top, it was just it
was yeah, just the men. Yeah she was. She was
dating a guy with a fucking underglow. Kid on his
mini vans have rims. It had to have had m Yeah. Yeah,
what kind of van was like an astro? I forget
the sound system? Yeah yeah yeah. He ended up, uh present,
(14:16):
getting shootout with the police in the van. I don't know,
actually I think he's I don't care about his life?
What happened to the van? Where's the fucking van? Is
that for sale? Yeah? You know kind of mileage? It
hid Ben. What is a myth? What something people think
is true you know to be false? I think it is.
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I think it's false to Okay again in that case,
I think it. I think it is. Let it go, guys,
I'll let it go. I think it is false that
people are unapproachable, and we were often taught, especially in
a place that like deifies celebrity or v I p
(14:58):
s or capital I capital the important people. I think, um,
I think that we are taught that these are somehow
not people like everybody, everybody you have ever met or
ever will meet. He's a human from Earth, right Allegedly,
unless you grew up like a billionaire, I can argue
you might be from a different dimension. Yeah. And and
(15:20):
it's strange because I've had conversations with people who apparently
big deals and I didn't recognize him. And there's like
some guy at the airport. He's on the phone with
his wife. He's like bitching about how he feels bad
and he's going to fix up the deck. And then
he talks to me like briefly about like he's like,
oh you know what I mean right now, I'm like,
all right, all right fine. And that guy's Cheach Maren. Yeah, yeah,
(15:44):
and he was really nice, and I think it was
because we didn't like there's no deification. I know, you
guys move in some pretty big circles. Funny dude. Yeah,
I went to school with Cheach his nephew. But and yeah,
he's a chill dude. Was his the sickest deck Check
out his mescal brand. Pretty fucking killer. What kind of
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van does he have? No, No, no van at all.
But but his son is like a like a drumm
and bass DJ. It's kind of a funny. The family
is very interesting that. Yeah. I think the approach thing
is something too. Like I got over that very quickly
when I was doing like my old job, a lot
of video work with celebrities. In my mind, I'm like, fun,
I direct this, or like I have to explain a
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thing and people like, you know, this person could be
really mean. In your mind, you feel like you're gonna
go out and be like, hi, so and so so
this is where we're thinking. And the worst case scenario
in your mind is like get the funk away from me.
But you realize too that you have to recognize everyone
sort of baseline humanity, and everyone is approachable and everyone's
a nice most people well, because long as like you
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allow people to exist like we're we're always also surrounded
by a bunch of things that attempt to make us
feel obligated to do a thing right. And the fact
that matter is there are very few situations where you
are actually obligated to do a thing. So I don't think, like,
like picture anybody. Let's do some foreshadowing. H Let's like
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pictures someone who's both famous and shitty. Uh. Donald Trump
would be a great example. Even even that guy cannot
obligate you to do stuff right. And I'm not gonna
be glad handing and call him donning or something. But
if I use the restroom and guys there along with
the other Secret Service people, I imagine they don't be
(17:32):
at the same time. Actually, I know, it's like it's
like the main skill, right, I still think, you know,
they're just people who have the same hardwired physiological Oh gosh,
I have to seek constraints, you know, like Dumbar's number
and stuff. But what's Dumbar's number is that the number
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of people that you can remember the faith of that
you can actually know that are not like in the
numbers around a hundred and fifty or something. Yeah, I
saw you think about that a lot, because if you're
listening now, how many Twitter friends, friends? How many Facebook
friends and folks? Yeah? Yeah, speaking of President's secret service
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and peeing. Uh, there's a story about Lyndon Johnson. Once
he was in a meeting hall and just asked one
of his secrets orry. He was having a conversation with
someone that I guess he didn't want to cut off,
so he asked one of his secret service agents to
move in front of him and pissed on the secret
service agent while having conversation with the person while continuing
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to have just he just pissed on the secret service
agent on his leg LBJ and this other person standing
another person creates a sandwich and it's like a circle. Yeah.
It was basically he was like, Hey, be the tree
that I take a piss on right now so that
I can keep talking to this person. And yeah, I
think Well he was also tall, so he was probably
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looking and all he said by way of explanation, was
It's my prerogative son. Yeah, and that's what the Bobby
Brown song is based on. Is that that makes makes sense?
The one where he's his back is to the camera, Yeah,
the black and white one, and he's wearing like like
chaps basically on his arms. Yeah. What a time, What
(19:18):
a time to be alive. Yeah, my wife and I
actually recreated that picture for a wedding. Is that no
hands over the breast with that would be great? Alright,
(19:39):
quick follow up from yesterday because we talked about the
fact that our President Donald Trump sent Justin Trudeau a
just something he tore out of a magazine and like
the scribbled on it with the sharp b. D J.
B Red on Twitter pointed out this story that he
(19:59):
says favorite example of Trump doing this. Uh, this is
from Graydon Carter who reasonally retired as the editor of
Vanity Fair and started this magazine, Spy magazine that was
the first place to make fun of Trump's hands, and
Graydon Carter said, to this day, I received the occasional
envelope from Trump. There's always a photo of him, generally
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a tear sheet from a magazine. On all of them,
he has circled his hand in gold sharpie, in a
valiant effort to highlight the length of his fingers. It's
just God, was so transparently insecure. It's such an easy
way to troll him to like knowing that. It's like
I would just send back photoshop things of him, would
(20:40):
like a little baby doll, like I don't know, this
is actually the undoctored photo I got Donald. Yeah, oh, God,
like I feel like that would just get would be
like like send something with photoshop tiny hands and then say, hey,
we we worked on making the hands just a little
bit bigger than normal, a little bit bigger, right, and
(21:04):
then show and then have like Obama in a video
with his hands slightly made even larger, and yeah, what
did what did he write to Trudeau? Because I read
the story first was a thing from I think it
was Bloomberg News or like one of those business magazines,
and on the cover it's Trudeau and it says the
anti Trump. So he circles and he goes, I hope
(21:27):
not like that, And the ambassador thought it was a prank, right,
And then he did another thing talking about trade deficits
that was completely just cherry picking data to just say
there was a deficit in one area, like in goods,
but if you added trade in services, there was a
surplus on the U S side. So then Trudeau sent
(21:47):
back the real thing and it was just sort of
very polite. But yeah, you know, he likes to use
what we call caveman Twitter, where it's like a rip
out sheet and then mail that to you. It's weird though,
because you know, I'm not saying that I have not
also wasted a morning or an afternoon, but I do
not have I'm gonna confess this and just confirm the
(22:09):
rumors are true. I do not have access to nuclear weapons.
And I feel like when you're prioritizing your life based
on ship like that, it's amazing, unprecedented, It's it's terrifying.
All Right, we're gonna take a quick break. We'll be
right back, and we're back. There's probably some weird noises
(22:41):
coming in. Just we have a set up on like
a weird mic set up on a tiny coffee table,
and its storms apparently, according to people who live in
Orlando this time of year, at storms between uh somewhere
between like three ish or to six ish, like clockwork. Kay,
(23:05):
I'm into it. Yeah, you know, I mean, I love weather.
Just being in l A where it's the two seasons
are hot and not that hot. Yeah, so it freaks
me out. I gotta I gotta be honest with you guys,
when whenever I'm in l A, like the weather is
always it's it's weird because time just stretches on, you don't.
I hadn't realized how much I counted on seasons to
(23:28):
like break down when like a year had passed, like
just like subtly in the back of my mind. But
it's just one long expanse of sameness. Yeah, anyways, let's
talk about Yeah, let's pick it up. Yeah, so narc
fucker turd is still off to the sand bullshit because
we have out hint it seems to be narc Suckerberg.
(23:51):
Now I like narc fucker turd. Yeah, I like it.
The So, this news came out that apparently there were
human beings transcribing people's audio messages from like from FB Messenger.
And this is from this article I think in the
Wall Street Journal. It says Facebook Incorporate has been paying
hundreds of outside contractors to transcribe clips of audio from
users of its services. Uh. The work has rattled the
(24:13):
contract employees who were not told where the audio was
recorded or how it was obtained, only to transcribe it.
Then they're hearing Facebook users conversations, sometimes with vulgar content,
who do not know why Facebook needs them transcribed. Their
explanation is like, we're just checking if the AI is
actually like holding up to like when human beings actually
(24:35):
like listening to it. That's why the whole things that
you know that that that's what that's what it is. Um.
So when they were asked about it, they did confirm
that they were doing it, but they said it will
no longer do so, and they said, this is weird.
This is where they like snitch on other companies, say
much like Apple and Google, we paused human review of
audio more than a week ago. Um. And then they
(24:56):
said the people who like have their ship transcribed were
those who opted to have their voice chats transcribed. But
that didn't protect people who maybe the other party in
a conversation might not have opted into it. It didn't
matter because that person had trent like O, didn't you
just gotta know not to talk to those people, like
stop using Facebook messaging. Yeah, Also I wonder how that
(25:18):
works because right legislation always lags behind technology, right, so
in some states it's just like a one party consent thing, right.
And uh, Also, I gotta say, I wonder all the
time how much Facebook's pr spent on the idea to
just refer to the guy as Mark, like whenever you
(25:39):
read a public release, so he has no last name.
And I don't think your share status yet, bro, It's
it's weird, it's insidious. Also, you know Facebook's coming out
with a currency or attempting to Ye, right, I saw that,
and yeah, so that that could be bad, right, explain why, thanks, Jack,
give it a swing first? The could you help me
(26:00):
out with a nickname again for this narc Buckerberg's yeah, alright,
So the snitchery continues. I think in that Facebook is
releasing various beating around the bush statements. They want to
create something called libra l I b r A and
(26:22):
it will be a partnership with other companies such as
like Uber I think maybe one. And the idea is
it's virtual currency that is you know, I don't know. Look,
I didn't write to him. What do you not call him? Facebooks?
Like that's the easiest lift, right, because you to to
make it sound super innocuous. You want to give it
a name like a foreign international assassin, Verry James Bond. Right, yeah,
(26:47):
so this, this is already raising a lot of concerns,
primarily because there is a possibility that this would enable
a private entity to function as a central bank, which
is a big no no. Uh. As you guys know, currency, uh,
currency moves a lot of things, right, like from the
(27:09):
fall of Libya to uh deciding whether or not to
tip your lift driver and the song cash rules everything around.
Thank you get the money, poet. But yeah, I mean
people have been saying just almost does a thought exercise
like comparing Google and Facebook two countries, both in terms
of population and wealth and power. But this like almost
(27:32):
formalizes it a little bit. It's yeah, yeah, you don't
need those other forms of They did something earlier a
few years back, I want to say, two with the
concept called Facebook credits way less cool name Bond villain wise,
but that got pulls pretty quickly. The question is not
whether it will happen, because I think it will be
(27:55):
a real thing. The question is whether it will happen
in a sustain will wait, whether it will continue, will
it gained steam? It's kind of like it's kind of
like a centralized bitcoin. Without getting too into the needs,
I would say, if you want the people who are
transcribing your three am you up? Nice ass messages? Uh,
(28:17):
then if you want those people to also have their
hands in your wallet another right exactly, go ahead and
side up. They're like, hey, sure you want to leave
the bank, because let me just play this message back
for you. You really just want to really bad, you know,
just coming back. It's like, m yeah, we transcribe that. Yeah,
we also have the message after that where you're weeping. Yeah,
(28:39):
let's talk about what we've come to call here on
the daily like guys chernobyl two point oh, chrenoble to
electrical glue. Yeah. Um. It's again one of these things
slowly developing because when we first started were like, okay,
what we know is that it was people suspect it
was a failed missile test. The one that putin was
like flexing on everyone is like it can get fucking
(29:01):
anywhere in the world, like you're no one is fucking safe.
It'll out maneuver every anti missile defense system. Yeah. The
Skyfall or whatever kind of a sick name to be
it's in a bond name though. People are just going
out of their way to come up with sick names
for ship. Yeah, They're like, we're not gonna like be
boring anymore. Sorry, guys, I gotta say I appreciate. Yeah.
(29:23):
I feel like there was like a turning point because
micro Soft is the most like non threatening, it's tiny
and soft. Don't mind us for tiny and soft. And
then they you know, Apple is a pretty anocubus item.
But now people are just like, yeah, welcome from unveiling
a flaccid Dick's windows x XP. Yeah. Yeah, so with
(29:49):
this one there, now they're starting to be a little
more information coming out. First that a lot of their
radiation levels that they were checking in the area had
spiked up to sixteen times the normal level. UM, and
they're still kind of like, you know, but the thing
is the Russian take on it is like very much
like what we saw in Chernobyl, where it's like there
was an incident and it's all contained. But then people
(30:12):
are like, then, why did you shut down part of
the sea where this happened. Why why are people tracking
one of your like nuclear clean up boats going that way? Um,
and the town nearby a city of like a hundred
eighty thousand people. They were saying they were evacuation orders,
and people are like, whoa, what what the funk is
going on with this? But then they were conflicting reports
(30:32):
that said, actually it's canceled. Everything is very chill, and
they were only asked to leave because they were going
to be some military exercise nearby, but those were actually canceled.
So it's all very chill at the moment um. So
I'm not sure exactly how many people have left or
have not left. But what's interesting is like there are
a lot of people very vocal about the fact that
(30:54):
they're like, why aren't you saying anything about this, Like
if it's not bad, then give us the whole extent
of how at it isn't you know, rather than just
being so you know, mitigating or mitigating everything exactly. And
they're really really like just concerned because they've seen what
has happened in the past. And it's important to note
how little coverage it's getting on Russian state TV. Two
(31:16):
people who like sort of analyze the media there, they
said that Russia twenty four is there like NonStop news channel.
They mentioned the incident ten hours after the first statement
that where they vaguely said, oh, is something to do
with a new propulsion system, and people like but it's
all fine. Ten hours after that, then five hours later
(31:40):
another national TV channel only did a thirty second segment
on it. What what do you say in seconds? Yeah,
and from this town where everything's chill for those of
you worried about the incident and that really far off
place where you not everything has been declar their v
(32:00):
chill moving on um. And then five hours later there
another channel only did a thirty six second mention of it.
So in the first fucking what fifteen hours of like
the statement coming out of the government, the news was like,
chill and if we do it's thirty six seconds. Now
here's some footage of Vladimir Putin's scoring hockey goals and
professional and now that pigeon that saluted Putin for five
(32:25):
hours on a loop uh ship. So we still don't
know anything. Yeah, But the thing is it does really
smack of Chernobyl in the sense that it's you're talking
about an overly ambitious government project UM, and they seem
to be a cutting corners in their development process to
bring their new war toy to market as soon as possible,
(32:45):
because a lot of analysts who like work in these
kind of propulsion systems are like, they were like very
surprised that the Russians were even testing it. Yet they're like,
this is such a very it's going to take a
while to really dial in how to have a nuclear
reactor on a missile to fuel it and keeping that
stable while being able to do all this other ship.
(33:05):
They're just basically saying like, I don't know, that seemed
a little too quick for them to just start testing
it and so yolo, and then again do you have
the scientists who were behind it, those like the first
five casualties, So we're like, I think blown out into
the water or something like there was something it was.
It seems like the their death was much more violent
(33:27):
than they hadn't died though. Think about how fun it
would have been when they were blown out into the water.
It's an impromptu water park. Yeah, exactly. To get an
idea of Russia's general ethos when it comes to technological advances,
just read up on like what the space race was
like for for them. They were just like basically like
(33:48):
firing people in the general direction of the moon and
like hoping they got there. You just like there's like
all this audio that has leaked out since then of
like people just dying horribly like as they like, you know,
just the rocket explodes, the rocket like heats up and
like they just bake inside of it. Like some people
(34:09):
like crashed into Siberia and then we're like I had
to fight off wolves for like days and didn't some
Italian ham radio operators like here some of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
So you're a gaga and I believe butchery in the
Russian Uh, this is the first guy to have made
it back, which is which is weird. Always think about
(34:32):
that because that's a hell of an asterix put on
the end of it. Like I'm the first man in
space who made it back back who didn't melt right. Yeah,
but they will just blow their finest scientific minds on
a very important project or in a project that's important
to their dear leader. Well, speaking of Russia, let's talk briefly.
(34:55):
Let's get a couple updates about Jeffrey Epstein. The I
feel like people and you know, this is a constant
refrain for me, but I think people were misquoting Joe
Scarborough in the in the aftermath of this suicide air
quotes he was like, this really smacks of Russia, and
people like he thinks Russia did it. It's like, no,
(35:17):
this is just how things happened in Russia. The guy
who knows stuff is in prison and then suddenly he's
dead and that's just it. Oh man, he had this
wild allergic reaction exactly. Maybe the food. Yeah, anyways, I
don't know, fell in a bunch of these weird umbrellas
that had poisoned on him. I can't believe he wanted
(35:39):
to kill himself so much that he shot himself twice
in the back of the head and then put himself
in a double bag and then jumped in a tube
of acid right like you know, he had his mindset
on one heck of a Rube Goldberg machine. What have
we learned since we first brought up the story a
few days back? The Daily Mail found Slane Maxwell. One
(36:01):
thing we haven't learned is how to pronounce that we did.
We did pull up like a French pronunciation video and
it was like Maxwell, we calls she's been staying inside
a mansion in Boston with her tech millionaire boyfriend, and
since the story kind of broke open wide, she hasn't
(36:24):
left their house. Her boyfriend is walking the dog and
doing the food show. Do not fucking let her leave
the fucking country either, I mean, I hope they true
if they're really serious about tying up these loose ends,
haul everyone's ass in. But you know, we can trust
h Bar to do that is so weird though, when
you're at that level and you have to have this
(36:47):
sort of this very acted out, surface level conversation like,
oh no, do you think they might be a flight risk? Yes? Yes, yeah,
this woman who's everyone's now being like, oh yeah, this
was like one of Jeffrey Epstein's right hand and people
like recruiters and groomers. Yeah. And then she's hiding out. Well,
her husband goes and does a shopping also going to
(37:09):
a non extradition country very distressingly alarmingly easy, you know
what I mean, Like, we can, guys, we can fucking
do that. What are they going to do? You know
what I mean? Yeah? Another update from Ghisland Maxwell is
that she apparently told people that Epstein had the entire
(37:30):
island wired for video uh, presumably for blackmail that was
something that he had mentioned to one of the children
that he was raping. He said that he asked them
to like report back to him on famous and powerful people,
the details of the sex they had with powerful people,
(37:51):
so that he could put them in their pocket. But
there's also been some whispers that he had different places
wired for the yo And yeah, this is just another
report that seems to point in that direction. Uh. There's
a New York Times reporter who spoke to him on
background a couple of years ago because there was a
rumor he was trying to substantiate that Epstein was advising
(38:15):
Elon Musk around the time of a lot of Elon
Musk's questionable behavior, and apparently he was. This is true. Yeah,
he was advising him on a couple of things around
the time that Elon Musk like broke all those laws
when he was like We're gonna go private and I'm
gonna buy back all the stock or whatever. So when
he did that joke, I believe so yeah, wow, oh yeah,
(38:37):
that sounded like a wild series of days, right, wasn't
a who was it was his Zalia Banks. Yeah, but
this New York Times reporter spoke to him on background,
meaning like off the record, but because he's dead now,
the reporter felt like they could tell the story. And
the story he got was just he spent a day
(38:59):
with Epstein and a couple of the like highlights where
that he said the prosecution of sex with teenage girls
is a historic abarition and he thinks that it's insane.
But he also once again bragged he had dirt on
a bunch of very powerful and very rich people, including
drug use, which is a new wrinkle. I mean, I
(39:21):
assumed there was probably drug use, but yeah, it's like
the combo meal, Like one crime is the burger, the
other crime is the those would be the price. Everybody
has a vice and it was his whole jam to
figure out what your vice was, get you on camera
doing it, and then as asked if you would sign
over your legal guardianship to him or your your Manhattan residents. Yeah, yeah,
(39:47):
shout out Lexley. There's a billy. Wayne Davis texted me
a video on YouTube just now of like all this
drone footage of the pedophile. Yeah, so like it's like
but but it's while the f b I is there,
so some guy think just flew his drone from a
nearby island to get to just see it, and you
see all the FBI guys like they're like blacking out
(40:07):
the windows and stuff. I've also been very curious, like
what's even there that is usable at this point. Temple
looking thing, you know, se temple not to profile. He
was very devout. I don't know what even God he
would even pray to. But yeah, the other thing too,
(40:29):
Now it's just gossip, So let's just give that, you know,
put that caveat in front of it. Is that there
was a photo that came out recently of Naomi Campbell.
I think she was having a party where you see
Ghislaine Maxwell and Virginia Juffrey or Jeffrey the the accuser
who was like at the time his sex slave, who
was seventeen at the time of this photo, being like
led on into this party, and people were like speculating
(40:52):
it's like that she might actually have a lot to
add to this because she she does have connections to
Jeffrey Epstein. But you know, I think everyone is trying
to find its like who knows enough to really sort
of create accountability for a lot of these people. So
I think a lot of people on the internet in
the gossip side, like will Naomi Campbell say something, well,
(41:14):
she step up? The fashion industry seems to be deeply
implicated because the you know, heads of modeling agencies were
where he got a lot of access to young women.
I mean, that's why, that's why the three that's why
the three of us didn't go into modeling. Yeah. I
(41:35):
was too ugly. Yeah, at the time, they're like, oh,
we're looking for something a little more blue eyed. They
wanted no, they wanted a brown kid with blue eyes,
and was like that doesn't exist. Ms, you're gonna have
to do with me. I want to be in this
snappack commercial. I once did a waiting job at a
(41:57):
party for manoelblonic uh and all the waiters were male models,
and like my friend got me into it like so
and just was like, yeah, he's a model too. And
the guy who like ran the show like just knew
I wasn't like immediately just like he could like look
at me and tell like I didn't have the bone stretch?
(42:17):
What did you? Was just like where do you model?
Like yeah, is that how your hair usually is? During
Like just wow, like are you preparing for a role?
Do you do a lot of modeling in Eastern Europe, right,
(42:40):
so you're like a hand model or alright, guys, so
you build a lot of model trains. Uh. Seriously, though honestly,
it's incredibly strange. There's so many other strings, right, other
other rabbit holes and breadcrumb trails, and I don't know
it's gonna happen. You know, it's weird. Matt Chrismin on
(43:04):
Chobo trap House has like gone off the rails. He's like,
I think Jeffrey Epstein wasn't a real guy. He was
a cipher that they used to transfer money through. I
was like, whoa, oh yeah, so I mean but I
can see how that would happen. Like you just read
NonStop get Epstein, and you can get the circular thoughts
and eventually you're like, you're like, you know Epstein. Every
(43:28):
person sees things internally neutral thing about it. So tons
of hashtags that are like to blessed, to be stressed,
blessed uh, and also people who do a lot of
acronym ng great great sign. Yeah yeah, all right, we're
gonna take another quick break and we'll be right back.
(44:00):
And we're back and uh, myles I personally don't give
a shit about spoilers. They kind of a little bit
actually same, I'm the only the first time Once upon
a Time in Hollywood is the first movie that I'm
really really glad I didn't have spoiled for me. So
thank you, sir, because you had seen it. Like, I
(44:22):
just don't talk about anything movie wise sometime, so I'm
not like everyone like, oh, I'm not going to see
anything for other people. I'm just like that. Look, I
got a lot of going, I got a lot of tables. Man.
Usually Janine Garoffala famously said the cable guy. Yeah, but
usually I don't care because movies stress me out right. Well,
(44:42):
you like, I want to know what You're the same
with sports too, I fucking can't. I need it. Like
the fucking thrill of watching sports, for sure is to
like live and die by that scoreboard and you know,
because you know, obviously the downside is the low this
could be just soul crushing, but the highs like when
(45:02):
you don't know that the outcome and it actually becomes
like legendary. You need those, You need those. That's when
you were cool with strangers, right all of a sudden,
being like in the Space there's a big win and
you're both like and you're jumping up and down your
high five just flooded with chemicals. Yeah, well but I
(45:23):
guess with yeah, with TV shows and stuff not as bad.
I think the only time would be like a finale.
Maybe I don't want to know. But aside from that,
like if someone you know, like I knew the sixth
Cents ending before I saw it, and I wasn't pissed
humble brag. Huh. Well you know, someone said friends who
six like one of those things are like people you know.
(45:48):
At that time that was considered like the and someone
was like, yeah, he's like fucking dead at the end,
and I was like, huh okay, and then I saw
it and I was still like all right. But to me,
the journey wasn't so much that twist, like it was
everything else around it. But anyway, I mean, both that
and Usual Suspects are rewatchable movies, even oh yeah, even
(46:11):
though they're big twisty twists at the end. But anywhere
Kevin Spacey fans over here, yes, um yes, ai his
maybe the selected yeah, well Alan iverson the answer maybe
the answer as well. Uh wow, that's poetic. That AI
could be the answer to creating a spoiler for Internet. Now,
(46:33):
there are researchers at the university you see, San Diego
who have been working on like some kind of AI
algorithm to try and basically detect spoilers and censor them
so people can like just fearlessly go into an article
and make sure like anything that could be a spoiler
would be redacted. However, it's a lot fucking harder than
they realized, so they call it spoiler net. To train
(46:57):
spoiler net, the team went looking for large data sets
of sentences containing spoilers spoiler alert. They found none, so
they created their own by collecting more than one point
three million book reviews annotated with spoiler tags by book reviewers.
The tags and compass sentences that include spoilers and hide
them behind a quote view spoiler link in the text.
The reviews were collected from good Reads blah blah blah.
(47:20):
So they really found at first there wasn't really an
effective way to actually do this because there's still a
lot of issues, especially with like semantic nuances, so they said,
in addition, the same word may have different semantic meetings
in different contexts. For example, green is just a color
in one book review, but it can be the name
of an important character and a signal for spoilers in
(47:40):
another book. Identifying and understanding these differences is challenging, so
they're sort of saying, like, we have something imperfect. But
it almost seems that even then, the bigger picture here
is that it's like, yeah, it might be very hard
to do this, or you're gonna have to feed this
thing a lot more data before I can start picking
out stuff like that. So the conclusion of their scientific
(48:01):
study is like, science is hard. Science is hard. This
is tough. This is tough, dude. Honestly, like, come on, man,
don't bust my balls about this, dude. It's a good
idea when we thought about it. Thanks for coming to
my ted talk. There's three snacks outside. Yeah, but they
did run it on a few single sentence reviews about
TV shows, and it was able to detect spoilers at
(48:24):
a seventy so it's not like that's not that perfect.
But but it is getting better and better. But yeah,
I think that's where they're really realizing. It's like, Okay,
we've got to train this ship. I mean, that's pretty good.
I only read sentence long reviews. For the reason was
that they were trying to also have applications for it
on Twitter, so that way you can like if you
(48:46):
you know, if you're doing it through the browser, it
could be like a browser plug in that could just
be running as you because the spoiler can sneak up
on you. Yeah, would go on through your timeline, you know,
in between casey da picks. Hey man, spoilerler might come
up when you're in l A. Dude, I'll take you
to the case it is, but you'll cry, no, ship, really,
it's just loaded. It's loaded. You're gonna get listeria. Dude. Cool.
(49:14):
You know that's the way I want to go out.
No spoilers, No, there's some, there's some really next level.
I'm just like, clock your whole soul. Let's do case
it is. But but also just personally, do you want
an AI plus percent? Uh spoiler A. I feel like
it's only improved my life in the ways I don't
(49:36):
know about, like where it's happening and like medical whatever.
I'm like, right, I'm not one who's like, fuck, I
need an AI solution to like my human problem, like
of my day to day life. I think there are
probably ways that it's already helping with, like navigation apps. Yeah,
that sh I'm like fine with, but I've never been
like the be there's well, because the whole thing is
(50:03):
God forbid, you don't fucking look at your phone for
a few hours or just say the funk off Twitter
or Facebook, where the spoilers normally reside, and I think
that speaks more to people's inability to get to log
the funk off. Right. It's also kind of this uh
kind of foisting responsibility onto everyone who is not me
to say, like, I haven't seen uh whatever, Like I
(50:26):
haven't seen the last episode of Lost, so the billions
of the rest of you shut the funk up until Thursday. Yeah,
it's weird. It's just like that for you, right, I
guess what, motherfucker they were dead the whole time? Wait what? Yeah?
Or ory? Okay, so I think the terrible example from that,
(50:48):
but you guys see what I'm saying. Yeah, of course,
of course, people who like read a lot about a
movie or a show and then are mad when I
get spoiled for them. It's like, yeah, what why is that?
Let me read the wiki on my own guy, right, Uh,
let's talk about Arizona, not the state. The fucking iced tea, dude,
(51:09):
they're fucking They're the most chill, fucking drink brand, dude.
The Arizona Iced Tea knows it's brand gets into cannabis.
It's into cannabis. I don't see the relation between the two.
I don't know. Growing up in California, like cracking a
Arizona iced tea, like the green Tea wine or the
(51:33):
mighty was that mighty mango whatever. The mango is just
pure like frontose corns are up. It was because it's
a cheap, tall can of pure sugar bliss. So I
grew up smoking blunts and drinking her Arizona iced tea
or Snapple peach tea and a lot of clothes cigarettes
because that's just what you do when you're scumting. But
(51:54):
it's weird. I think also because now they've also realized
like how much nostalgia's wrapped up in their brand, like
that that very pacific green tea can that has like
the cherry. Yeah, like they put that on shoes and
fucking I think it was an Adidas collaboration and like
they had to shut down the collab because so many
people were about to mob the store for it again,
(52:14):
like they're putting it on hoodies and oh yea. So
in a way, it's just like, huh, maybe maybe we
can do a little four weight for a into weed.
So they've just basically there is a deal announced that
they're um doing a little licensing deal with Dixie Brands,
which is a Denver based producer of like weed vapes,
(52:35):
like edibles, drinks, tinctures, and topical creams. And the board
still has to approve it, but it would basically allow
Arizona to like buy a like a ten million dollar
steak in the manufacturer, which would you know, essentially open
up the door because right now this company distributes in
like five states that have recreational weed um and basically
(52:57):
like maybe we'll see that like green tea flavor he
like vapues or like drinks that are like Arizona iced
tea HC. Yeah. Is like the dry mouth and stuff
like that one of the things that they've cured in
terms of with the we with smoking, not with smoke. Yeah. Yeah,
it's so busy drying. Yeah, but you know it is
(53:18):
what it is. You gotta crack open his own I mean,
but the thing, Yeah, I will say, you know in
the green Tea zone, you'd hope again when we mentioned
all like how these huge companies come into it and
are like, yeah, we're gonna work around two with that
thing that put millions of people of color in prison.
You know, I would love to see one of these
companies say, I guess, well, we're doing this, but actually
(53:40):
all of our money is going working to something else,
because I feel like that that's still is the sort
of big elephant in the room with all of this,
like you know, fantastic legalization that's happening. He's like, they're
not actually doing any any damage repair to the countless
people have been like you had weed butter in jail
for ever. Yeah, and now it's a bunch of suits
(54:01):
going you guys heard this marijuana big business. You guys
remember Zones Jonas Zonas. I icking love them. And then, uh,
you know, it's strange because one would hope that they're
doing just the thing that you describe. And and it's
the tricky part where like if you ever go to
a show you see something where they say a portion
(54:23):
of the proceeds benefit charity as a right exactly and uh.
And I hope that that happens, but I don't really
see it unless somebody, Unless somebody purposely goes into it.
You should write the Arizona or I mean, I think
or basically it has happened at a federal level. It's
like where it's like, you know what you're gonna do.
(54:43):
We're legalizing marijuana, and part of that is going to
be expunging the records of people who have just had
cannabis charges and letting them out of jail. Like I
think that's the least you can do. But I feel
like they're being proposed, like I've heard comm LA's say
stuff that she's down for legalization. I don't know if
about the expunging records part, because in California they're doing that.
(55:03):
They're like, okay, we're legalizing it and we're trying to
help people get like retroactively exactly. But I will we'll see.
That could end up being someone's policy platform. You'd hope
it would be. This could be big for us. Yes, yeah.
My next question, what do you think about a snap
a Lady streetwear line? Wow? Uh huh? I miss her
(55:25):
and the snack Wells ladies. Yeah, the snack Wells ladies.
I don't know, you know so funny. I didn't realize
it when as a kid when I saw the snack
Wos commercials due these like fucking delicious, and I remember,
like my mom again Immigrant moms hate buying shit that
isn't like just you know, normal cross table food. So
(55:47):
I'm like, mom, I really want that Mondo drink things
jankie fucking squeeze it absolutely not right, like you will
drink this like old apple juice from concentrate or something.
But anyway, I remember the snack Wos commercial and be
fucked up. I'm going and I grabbed the Devil's Food
snack Wells thing because I look like the most caky,
(56:08):
like delicious. I'm like, Mom, I want this. She's like no,
and I'm like I ain't and I started crying and
she got it for me. Cut to me getting to
the house tastes like absolute ship because I didn't realize
it was like a little calorie sugar free day I was.
So that was like my first instance of being like
the commercial had me all fucked up and I didn't
(56:31):
know what I was getting into. It's snack well nuts,
snack good That's how they get you exactly. That is
how they get you, Ben. It has been a pleasure
of having you. Where can people find you? Follow you?
Yes you can. I would do a number of shows
when I'm when I'm not dropping by to hang out
with you guys here on Daily Skeys. You can find
(56:52):
me at Ridiculous History. Uh some variation of that phrase
across the Internet where me and my pal Nuell look
at all the brilliant, beautiful, disturbing. Dare I say ridiculous
things over the course of this human civilization? And then
a show that applies critical thinking to conspiracy theories, who
allegations of the paranormal and more. Also true crime, investigatory
(57:15):
stuff that is stuff they don't want you to know. Uh,
conspiracy stuff on Twitter, conspiracy stuff show on Instagram. You
can see me getting kicked out and kicked into various
countries on my own Instagram and named in a burst
of creativity at Ben bullin. Wait, you got kicked out
of a country? Yeah, that's fucking awesome. Uh well uh
(57:39):
uh no no, but I kind of got into North Korea.
Do we talk about that? No? I don't think we did.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, well we'll catch up off Mike.
But guys, thank you so much for having me. I
would love to have you guys on h on my
show at some point. I love to be would you
guys be would you guys be cool? Yeah? Are on
(58:01):
a scale? Went to Tim where we joking? Wise you
in seriousness? Okay, yeah, let's do it. Let's make it happen. Ben,
is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Uh? There is
a magic realism butt? What you guys heard about that? Uh?
Yeah yeah? And then there's not a wolf which is
(58:24):
blowing up now it's just not a wolf. Yeah, it's
just like the all calps things. Clearly just a wolf
pretending to be a human, like I love wearing clothes
and walking with my leg kind of stuff. You know,
because the at the handle is at sick of wolves.
Let's see what's the last one? At what point in
(58:45):
the burrito does my unending anxiety recede? Or is that
not what these are? Four? So they'll build an entire
horde tube to get fish from one place to another.
But if a wolf theoretically wanted to use a climbing
wall just to see what all the fuss is about,
they have no options. Uh, Miles, we can people find you?
And what's a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh? I mean look,
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you can find me and follow me on Twitter and
Instagram at Miles of Gray or just sobbing in front
of Epcot because we don't have time to go really
bummed about this new development. Um, but maybe we'll have
a chance to go to the Holy Land experience. Yea Um.
A tweet that I like is from a partner on
Charla at a part napkin It says I would love
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to see an added feature to business slash restaurant descriptions
on yelp answering can I cry here? Great for crying,
good for families? No good for crying and sports? Uh
at Liz Hackett. Elizabeth Hackett tweeted, my favorite part of
adulthood is thinking back on being a child and trying
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to figure out which adults in charge. We're going through
some major ship. Fun fun thing to think that on.
It's on exercise. You can find me on Twitter, Jack Undersquirrel, Brian.
You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist for
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link off to the information that we talked about in
today's episode, as well as the song we ride out
on miles What's not going to be Today? This is
a new song, I believe. I think it's new from
Kareem Riggins, who is one of my favorite drummers. He's
also like a producer. He kind of like occupies this
really interesting space in hip hop and just tremendous be
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Maker two. But please look up some of his drum
solos because his pocket fill is gnarly and his technique
is great. But this track is called Double Trouble from
Kareem Riggins on the album Alone Together. No, that's an
old album actually, so it is not new this but
it's new to me. You might as well be new
if it's new to you. New to you, what was
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that joke? Where isn't it a cartoon where some guys
in prison? He's like, all right, Zene, it's new to me.
I think it's Charles Manson maybe in Family Guy. It's
pretty good. I don't know. Sorry, my brain works like
a fucking malfunctioning hard drive Sometimes yes, well, the Daily
Zyeist does a production of I heart Radio. For more
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That's gonna do it for today. We will be back
tomorrow because it is a daily podcast and we'll talk
to you that some
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