December 11, 2018 • 65 mins
In episode 291, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Paige Weldon to discuss Steph Curry's theory on the moon landing, two jobs we can't fill in the US (Oscars host AND White House Chief of Staff), the failing of an Alt-right convention, Russian spy Matina Butina possibly flipping, Individual 1 starting to panic, a woman divorcing her ghost husband, the creation of digital doppelgängers, the fact that it is harder for children to believe in Santa these days, and more!
FOOTNOTES:
1. Stephen Curry: I don’t believe we went to the moon
2. DONALD TRUMP LIKES TO HIRE STAFF WHO LOOK LIKE HIM WHEN HE WAS YOUNGER, REPORT SAYS
3. OSCARS 2018 Hard to Find New Host ... GIG COMES WITH LOW PAY, LOW REWARD
4. Wild theories and empty seats at CPAC-style conference for the MAGA set
5. Accused Russian Spy Maria Butina May Be Ready to Cooperate
6. Washington Post columnist predicts Trump will resign 10 minutes before Pence so Pence can pardon him
7. Louth woman married to ghost of pirate splits from her 300-year-old husband
8. A Holocaust Survivor’s Digital Doppelgänger
9. Man arrested after telling kids Santa isn't real
10. School district apologizes after teacher tells students Santa isn't real
11. Is Santa real? A version of Alexa skirts some kid questions
12. WATCH: crying while she is combing her hair
13. WATCH: Fishmans - Baby Blue
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season sixty two, episode
two of their Daily eight Guys Yeah, the podcast where
we take a deep dive into America's share consciousness using
the headlines, box officer posts, TV ratings, what's trending on
gooogs and social meds. It's Tuesday, December eleven, two thou
eight teen names Jack O'Brien ak. It's Zyguys with Jack
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O'Brian with Jack O'Brien. That's right on Tom The Zightgang
with co host Miles and I'm thrilled to be joined
as always by my co host, Mr Miles Gray. It's
Miles Gray on the second rate to the Zeit Gang.
I'm checking in. There's an old man sitting next to me.
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Came from Cracked Now he's podcasting kiding Weston Reynolds for
that piano man. Wait were you listening to that earlier?
Because I was just about to say, I do not
know why, but I have piano man stuck in my head. Yeah, well,
kind I just want to make sure I had on
my local melody when I gotta got it. Well, you
like where I normally sort of gaslights you by like
(01:06):
subtly giving you ear warm songs. Yeah, I'm happy to
be that old man and not and you're not even
full the original song who uh is making love to
a genin ton Ah? This was congealed to sorry to
show people the behind the scenes of this show. But
I started drinking Bulletproof cold brew that has a fat
and stuff in it, and every time it can ngeals
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and I'm drinking gravy milk. Yeah, it's sucked up. Bulletproof
needs to figure out how to mass produce uh sh Well,
We're thrilled to be joined by a hilarious comedian who
has done stand up on Two Dope Queen's She's done
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acting in the reboot of Heather. Here's saying Comedy Central's
corporate page Weldon, welcome back. Oh, thank you so much, guys,
Hie you too. I'm worried about this Congeli. I know,
I don't know what's happening. In the beginning was very fine, fine,
always seamless, and then like the last two weeks, people
have just been cracking open this congeal mess. And I
(02:10):
think maybe our refrigerator is too cold, so the fat
is hardening up in the thing, and then you gotta
switch it down from four to three or whatever. Well, yeah,
we can actually do it by the temperature. Excuse me,
I don't have a fancy fringe. I don't know how
it works in your ice box. Yeah, I've just been
putting things in salt back in my place, some salted meats. Yeah,
(02:34):
I guess I'm weird. Yeah. The thing that you wh
when somebody tells you about bulletproof coffee that it's coffee
that has butter in it. The gross thing that comes
to your mind is actually what happens when you get
it and it separates. Yeah, it separates. You have chunks
of butter in your coffee. Yeah, it's the only bulletproof
I've ever had. I personally like it a lot. Would
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you like it chunky? Yeah? I like chunky bever is
in general. I like my milk that when it's like
a couple of weeks past curdling. Hyah, Now I'm dying. Alright, Well, alright, Paide,
we're going to get to know you. This is gonna
be the whole episode. I hope everybody's good with that.
(03:19):
We're going to get to know you a little bit
better in a moment. But first we're gonna tell our
listeners a couple of things we're talking about today. We're
gonna talk about the latest NBA point guard All Star
phenomen who has announced that they believe something very very stupid.
Following up Kyrie Irving, Steph Curry has announced that he
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doesn't think we've been to the moon. We're gonna talk
about the two hardest jobs to fill right now, the
two jobs nobody wants oscar host and White House chief
of staff. Typically not that hard to fill this year
for whatever reason, uh difficult. We're gonna talk about just
things going so for the alt right in general, and
(04:03):
the fact that that Russian spy lady from a while
back she may be flipping as well. I thought she
was gonna be like the hardest person to get to flip.
We're also going to talk about ghost fucking. But you
knew that. But first Tuesday it ghoest fucking Tuesday Spector
files page. What is something from your search history that's
(04:24):
revealing about who you are? Well? I feel like what
I google is phrases or expressions I've just used, and
I am unsure if I use them right right. So
recently I googled see above because I had been writing,
you know, an email and I at the end of
it was referencing something above. I said, see above, and
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immediately I was like, is that is that something people say?
Did I just invent that? And it is something people say? Speak? Ye,
but it just sounded wrong because I overthought it. I'm
always convinced I've done it wrong. Did you spell it
like the ocean? Yeah? Yeah? What? Um? Was the thing
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you were referencing like above? It? I used it completely correctly.
I just convinced myself that I'm an idiot and I
made something up. What's the origin of the second guessing
of things that even like grammatically track and you're like,
I don't know, I may have sucked that up. I
just feel like so often I'll use an expression that
I think everyone knows and someone will be like, what
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is that? What did you just say? And I'll be like,
I really thought that everyone said that. I was trying
to use that expression that's like um, you can fill
in whatever you want, but you say like something rich,
something else poor, like I'm your bulletproof coffee rich, lack
of curdling poor. I don't know, this is a bad example, Yeah,
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something like this. It's not a time where I would
use it. But I feel like I've used that before
and someone's looked at me, like, what are you talking about? Right,
You're like, I'm friend rich but cash poor. Yeah, what
what does that mean? Yes, use me page, You're not poor. Okay,
your privileged needs to be checked right now. I'm like,
it's an expression. You just talked to too many dumb people.
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I think, Yeah, I gotta get all these idiots. You're
letting other people's ignorance make you doubt your own intelligence.
I'm really smart. So um, that was what I wanted
to get out there. See above. I think is definitely
the less common because usually you're referring to a previous
email in the chain, which is below, But see above,
you're just referring to something awesome. You've already said, yeah,
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I'm just so hyper organized that people are not on
my level. And it's later in the outline, the five
page outline that you've emailed to somebody. Yeah, email me sometime,
I'll send you some bullet points. What is something you
think is overrated? Airbnb? Okay, I'm gonna come out and
say it. Airbnb is overrated. How many experience I'm going
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to come out and say it's like, thank you for
taking your tremendous risk with it. I mean, okay, I
get that it's a better deal, but how many Airbnb
experiences have you had that are ten out of ten?
I feel like most Airbnb experiences I have are kind
of weird or very weird and not worth it. You guys,
A B and B A lot I have. I don't
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like to stay in anything less than a five star hotel.
So I've done it for like a bit for research,
just to see what. Yeah. Yeah, I was at this
this penthouse apartment in Vancouver, Canada, which is great, had
its own elevator, and I had a good time. I
would give it eight out of ten for service. There
was no concierge. But now, so, what are the places
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you stay at just people's rooms? Oh? I mean I've
had experiences where like I usually try to pick the
one that's like you have the whole place. I just
feel like there's always something off, like it's unsettling in
some way. Um. I definitely have had the experience of
one time I was staying somewhere with my boyfriend. It
was like a separate area. It was like the top
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floor of this woman's place. And she kept reiterating. She
was just like, and we do live below, but we
can't hear anything, so don't worry. It's always like something
happens that makes me feel like I'm being filmed or
something is going on, and I'm just like, Okay, I
know that, Like, there can be good experiences, but at
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least with a hotel, you know, if you're picking a
shitty hotel, like you know what you're getting into. And
the person who you're interacting with has gone into hospitality
presumably because they're okay at interacting with people and they're
not going to give you the impression that they're filming you.
They're not just a person who has a spare room.
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Well we might as well. Yeah, I mean, for a
hundred bucks a night, we could be making way more
people uncomfortable. Honey, let's have someone say, you know, my
lack of people skills. Let's put having strangers come through
our house and trends sleep next to us. I can't
we can't hear anything, we can't see anything. Had a
resolution above three six. Yeah, there's just always something wrong,
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and I just think it's been overall bad for society.
I thought you're gonna I thought the take was about
the like housing crises another yeah, weird host angle too. Yeah,
I just think I don't know. I I don't like
that they're expanding into these experience just stop. I think,
what are they expanding into experiences and stuff which are
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fucking scar Remember I was telling you about one because
in Hollywood, like they were just doing ones where it's
like follow a Hollywood actor that will show you all
the cool spots and like I'm like, Okay, who is
this person? You pull up their IMDb. They did like
one thing like a featured extra part and then they
present themselves to Airbnb like guests. As I've been in
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Hollywood acting for fourteen years and I know all the
ins and outs where producers hang out and they'll sell
people on like this bizarro version of l A that
they can guide them through. Yeah, it's like, aren't there
enough ways to scam tourists? Why are we doing this? Yeah?
There was one that was like how did write poetry
and Runyon Canyon? Now that I'd like to do? Funny
(10:19):
that someone was like, Yo, someone could pay me forty bucks,
I'll take him to Runyon and I'll be like, I'm
a poet and we'll work on your poetry. Dude, just
do Postmates or lift or something. And that person was
the most surprised that their thing didn't sell like hotcakes.
I'm sure. The one that I did see people get
a lot of bad reviews on was a guy who
said he could get you into any nightclub, and then
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a lot of people from the Midwest show up and
they're like, I couldn't believe how rude the door people were.
They said, we weren't dressed right, and it was sort
of like, you know, you probably that this guy was
just gonna part the sea of thirsty people at the
club and you would just walk right in and then yeah,
and then the guy was like, I'm sorry, scamera. So
what's the Airbnb? How is airbnb contributing to the housing
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crisis because people just buy houses to airbnb out. Yeah,
there are a lot of yeah, exactly, there are a
lot of properties like apartment units that other peoples like, oh,
this would be a passive income thing. I'll keep someone
from actually living there, starting a family or whatever. Got it? Okay, Yeah,
that makes sense. There was also that long read a
couple of years ago about somebody who's went to an
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Airbnb with their whole family like family reunion thing, and
their dad set on like a tree swing and the
branch broke off and killed him. Sorry, it's not funny.
And but because it was just like and they were
talking about how like Airbnb just doesn't you know, they
don't check anything. So all these things that you assume,
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like you kind of are in this mind state that
you're like on a tourist experience, so it's as safe
as other tourist experience you've been on. It's like, no,
this is just some dude like set that up a
couple of days ago, like set up a poor very
little accountability to It's like at a hotel, if something
that is wrong, you just go to the desk. If
if something goes wrong at an airbnb, you're on the
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phone with them for days trying to get your money back. Yeah. Yeah, no,
it's a lot. What is something you think is underrated?
Eli Loco okay local, thank you? Yeah. I love that restaurant.
I feel like it is one of the best, if
not the best, in terms of fast food, and people
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are not giving enough credit. Yo, that's this is I
like this. I'm thinking now, I really do like and
I don't give it enough love. Actually, I'm always talking
about Taco Bell and other places, but I mean that's
a totally different things. Like I love Taco Bell as well,
but they're very highly rated in the world. I feel
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I feel like El Boy Loco is not getting enough
love there. Yo. I used to be addicted to their
pinto beans like that adjected, But like I used to,
I used to just be like I would only eat that.
I would eat a family sized thing of pinto beans.
Now this is a fairly regional one, right, I think
southern California. I'm not sure. I mean definitely, I've only
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headed out here. I think it's in other places as well,
but I've not researched properly. It's not in New York.
I just searched New York and it said there are
no restaurants located in New York. So the first one.
So it's California, Nevada, Arizona, Utah, Texas. But it was
started in Mexico. Okay, yeah, but I shout out from
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Narcos Mexico. I've just been watching so much. I've been
hearing so much about Sinaloa recently. Not shout out to
the next, But I always thought I always thought loco
was what Gus is Fried Chicken from Breaking Bad was
based on because similar, I think, well, hey, let's not well.
Are you trying to say that they're caught up in
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some kind of drup trafficking? No, okay, I hope you
wouldn't say that about them? No, No, no saying follow
the money. Hey, there's a red laser on your shirt.
And finally, what is a myth? What's something people think
is true you know to be false? Okay, I don't
know if this is definitely false, But I feel like
people overhype the idea that a succulent is like an
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easy plant. I feel like when you're a person who's
like I always kill plants, people are like, well, why
don't you get a succulent? And I'm like, because I'll
also kill the succulent. I don't know what you want
me to do. They're like, what am I supposed to do?
I get a plant, I don't water it for months
at a time, and then I just smash it on
the floor. Yeah. Basically, so what's going wrong? I have?
(14:41):
I have a succulent right now that I've been told
by the person I purchased it from a nice kiosk
at them all that you're supposed to water one tablespoon
a week, and every time I do, and I'm like,
this doesn't seem like enough and that's why I killed him.
But I'm trying. I'm trying. So you over Water, like
I don't know, like Lenny from of my summing, you
just love do not know my own straight. I don't know.
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I just feel like people like to be like, oh
it's easy, like there's no way you could kill one.
And I'm like, try me, show I'll do it. It's
prove to you. Yeah, I didn't really. Yeah, Overwater, I
think succulents work for me because it's just about the
pace at which I remember to water plane. Yeah, all right,
it's still good. It's still yeah. Yeah, I've killed bamboo before.
(15:29):
I don't know what's wrong with me. Yeah, bamboo is
like people try to kill it because it like that's impressive. Yeah.
I take my head off to you as somebody who
also is bad at taking care of Thanks for all right,
let's talk Steph Curry. He recently announced he does not
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believe we landed on the moon. Uh, this is just
always a bummer for me, and yeah, it wasn't. It
was just last week. We're like, this guy is the
perfect he's a role model. When you say he announced it,
he what do you mean, get up, Steph Curry. I
don't believe we went to the moon, so that appears
to be a direct quote. Was he high at the
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time or he doesn't seem like he gets high. I mean,
I feel like the amount of people that believe this
would shock you. Like I feel like whenever someone says that,
I'm like, it's always someone who I thought was like fine, Yeah.
The Warriors star appeared on Winging It with Vince Carter,
Kemp Baysmore, and Andre Iguodala. I guess that's a podcast,
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but I wouldn't check it out, just keep listening daily.
I guess now. I feel that kind of takes your
getting on the Curry said we ever been to the moon?
Multiple responders, Nope, Curry, they're gonna come get us. I
don't think so either. Uh so everyone there was an agreement,
uh huh yeah, Vince Carter two. So that apparently is
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widespread amongst NBA players right there is like this weird,
like I don't trust what they're they show us in
space sentiment like Kyrie Irving when he was a flat earther,
and his more thing was like, so I should just
believe this thing because people keep teaching us that that's
the truth. And you're like, what then is signed? And
I guess when you put it that way, well right?
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And then he finally came back around. I was like,
you know, that was actually a poor lead, that was
a poor opinion. Yeah, Tyree came back around, and I
think because enough people were like, this is It's like
one of those things where it's like he's never said
it out loud to that many people before, and then
everyone was like, yeah, don't you know, honey, ye look
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at this. I mean, you know what, what proof does
he need? Exactly? Like he just doesn't believe that humans
were able to land on the Moon. The arguments that
I've always heard moon skeptics moon Hoaxer's point to suggests
that they've only ever seen that one picture with the
flag and the wind. Where's the wind? How's it? How's
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the flag flying out to the side, And like there
are hours of footage of people like running around on
the moon and jumping and playing golf on the moon.
With like a level of gravity that would have been
impossible to pull off given the special effects like at
the time. And there's also a thing they do, these
like laser ranging retro reflectors. They leave left them up there,
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and we send lasers up to the Moon and they
reflect back because we've been there and there are devices
for reflecting back to Maybe he's angling for a free
trip to the Moon, you know what I mean. We're like,
I don't know, man, I would have to be up
there myself for free. He's like, if you sent me there,
I would definitely post on Instagram and it would get
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the Moon some good publicity. I think it's funny that
there's you're like listing all this evidence and I'm just like,
I've never even known about that because I was always
just like, oh yeah, yeah, I don't need to research this,
but this is just true. They actually sent a lunar
reconnaissance orbiter a thing to like go around the Moon
and take photographs of it, not explicitly for this, but
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it happened to like the camera was owned by a
non US government source, and uh, they found that the
Moon isn't even real. Yeah, they were able to photograph
like lunar landers and all the ship that they left
up there. Well, because yeah, that's so China. They sent
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a lander in a rover to the far side of
the moon. Okay, so it'll do a lot of research
on the other side. But again, I don't know, we'll
see I mean, it doesn't who knows, Maybe it doesn't exist.
I don't know. I don't get it. I guess my
whole thing is to say that it didn't happen means
that they believe there's some kind of darker like malicious
intent around saying that we did get there, or there's
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been like man or you're just treating it like the
friend who said he has a girlfriend in Canada that
you'll never meet. Yeah, well, I I understand the conspiracy
because we were in this like arms race with Ussia,
and you know, we wanted to prove that we could
get there quicker. But it seems like Russia would have
punched holes through it more effective than where's the wind
bro like Russia. If we were faking at Russia would
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have had a much easier time disproving it, and they
have every incentive to disprove it, right, Yeah, it's kind
of like your comparison to like the friend who says
he has a girlfriend. It's like, just let him have it.
Why do we have to do this right? Maybe that's
why Russia let us pretend like we've been to the moon.
It's okay, yeah, they clearly need this so it's impossible
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to get up there. But it's just like, what does
the moon feel? Like? What's her middle name? I like
how I like got piste off the astronauts who have
been to the Moon getting at people who like claim
they haven't. I think buzz Aldrin like just clocked a dude, Yeah,
because that guy was like constantly following him around too. Yeah.
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And if you had been to the moon, yeah, you'd
be like you're really going to take this away from
and the stress of fucking having to fucking leave Earth
and then go to the Moon, like like I could
have died. Yeah, I think it totally fucks you up.
Like if you look at the interview that they conducted
right after they got back, they're like weirded out, Like, yeah,
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I react the same way. And people say I wasn't
at the Coachella show with the Tupac Hologram, I'm like
I was there, and I worked hard to get there.
But I think this illustrates just zeitgeist wise, like we
are in a dangerous place where our celebrities are incredibly
influential and in a lot of cases, you know, influential
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and spheres that they probably shouldn't be. Like Steph Curry
is just a dude who is insanely gifted and like
amazing at like finesse athletics. But like the other noteworthy
thing about him is nobody's disagreed with him since he
was a freshman in high school. So like she's got
a very uniquely bad grasp on things that should be
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sort of everyday understanding to the rest of us. So
you can teach Steph Curry a thing or two because
you've been living in the real world for most of
your life and everyone's telling you. Turns out everyone has
their talents right exactly, And maybe don't ask him about
this stuff. All right, We're gonna take a quick break.
We'll be right back, and we're back. And two jobs
(22:36):
as of this recording, as yet unfelt. We got the
Oscar host job that was briefly filled by Kevin Hartt
last week and then he bailed, And then we have
white House chief of staff, which is much more interesting
because this job is usually so easy to feel that
literally no one has ever turned it down prior to
(22:57):
this weekend. And and Mike Pence's chief of staff, Nick Ayers, who,
by the way, Amarossa is convinced as the anonymous resistance
up ed guy. But Trump is like really into him,
really really into him. That's people like anonymous sources who
(23:19):
like work in the White House are like, it's weird.
They're like, yeah, he has very Mr yars uh And well,
a lot of it, they say, has to do with
the fact that Trump is like he's been saying that
Nick Ayer's reminds him of him when he was younger.
Is there any worse reason to like someone? Right? Yeah,
but I guess he just loves me so much, like
(23:41):
a dumber, less experienced version of me. That's who I
trust the most. Yeah. Well, I mean, I don't know
if that freaked Nick Ayers out and he's like, dude,
I'm not gonna get single white female by this or whatever,
or if he really I mean, I think the wise
money is on the idea that the whole administration is
in the process of free fun, and he probably doesn't
(24:03):
want to be anywhere near that. Uh, And he's just
distancing himself from that because he's still a young man
and doesn't want to you know, self phone and knock
his career out just so early on, which I think
is fair. Yeah, and it's very reasonable of you. Yeah.
I mean, he's a weird fucking guy and has questionable ethics.
But aside from that, Yeah, I can't blame me for
(24:25):
not taking the job. I feel like right now, in
this day and age, we're just really digging for anything
that makes any sense. I'm like, at least understand this
aspect of what's going on. Yeah. That's a good point.
It's something to hold onto. Yeah. I guess the thing
that I have learned from this story, other than that
it seems like things are worse behind the scenes than
(24:48):
we might have thought, is that Nick Airs is terrifying
and we should keep an eye on him. If Trump
is like that's my guy, that's who that's who I
was when I was his age, or Nick is incredibly
intelligent and knows how to just play this man right, Yeah,
which is either way frightening because if you're willing to
be like really be a sycophant to Trump, where he's like,
(25:11):
I like this guy, like, you have to be off
your fucking rocking chair. But I guess you know. Also
when you look at what's coming down the pipe for
somebody who would be chief of staff, you have the Democrats,
the Democrats controlling the House and subpoenas coming out of
every which way. That's a lot of coordination has to
do with staff to get met people on on the
(25:31):
right messaging. You have Mueller surprises happening left and right.
And I don't think you want to be the guy
who's having like keep the Trump team in check during
all this. No, it seems like a very difficult job.
Like it's everything you hear from John Kelly is just
like this is the worst job in the world, right,
and not because it's easy and boring, because it's just NonStop.
(25:53):
He would say that after you know, Trump did something
that was impossible to predict and also impossible to contain. Yeah,
it's impossible to keep him on message. So like and
as chief of staff, like when you're dealing with like
massive headline scandal type shit, you won't be like, Okay,
this is what we're trying to say, and then he'll
immediately go out and just do some stream of consciousness bullshita.
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When you're a manager, you learn that, like one of
the worst things for people's job satisfaction is unpredictability. Like
it's good for entertainment value, but if like they don't
know what their job is going to be like day
to day and I can't count on that, it kills
you slowly. Um. I also think I am interested to
(26:37):
see how this affects the President's relationship to VP Michael Pence,
because Michael, he and I are on the opposite of
a first name basis. But there's been this sort of
background buzz of stories where people say that Trump goes
around asking people if he if they think he can
(27:01):
trust Mike Pence. So he's like already paranoid about him.
He's already jealous of his chief of staff and like
wanted his chief of staff because he probably saw how
much easier Mike's life is because he just stays the
funk out of the headlines. And so he now had
that chief staff turn him down when he asked him
to prom And I just feel like this won't do
(27:24):
good things for their relationship. Probably. Well, Yeah, Maggie Haberman
was reporting that behind the scenes of Trump was fucking
humiliated when airs like, I'm sorry, honey, no. Uh. And
that's the thing I think, as you put it in emotion,
he tries to avoid and naturally would. And the other
thing too, is even with the ouster or the resignation
or whatever or whatever you wanna call John Kelly's leaving,
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the way it was supposed to go down was Kelly
was going to say something today on his own, and
they had agreed, and they had come together and been like, Okay,
you can, you can come through. We'll do it on
your terms. You know what. Let's make this nice to
you now. On Saturday, just off the cuff, you was like, yeah, yeah,
John Kelly is gonna be leaving. Right. You cannot tell
this guy anything, you know, and you can't just there's nothing. Yeah,
(28:07):
which is how we know that all conspiracies are bullshit
because he if he had learned that shot JFK, he
would have told us by although they probably wouldn't tell him. Also, no,
like the CIA and FBI no better than to do that. Um,
And we're still believing that there's a binder they show you. Yeah, yeah,
(28:28):
just one role of film that they hied under a
church pew yes somewhere and we learned at the end
of the rock. Yeah, exactly. So there was a big
alt right con over the weekend convention. Yes, I probably
need to clarify convention. Yeah, and it featured the likes
of Laura Loomer, Jack Soba Sobik whatever and uh it,
(28:55):
Mike Sernovitch. There's a lot all kinds of people there,
t Yeah, and uh it did not draw as well
as people were. They called it the American American Priority
Conference in d C. First of all, bad name, horrible. Yeah,
(29:15):
and it's basically like what c pack is, but to
the right of that even which is hard to imagine
what that is even like. And it's because it's a
lot of you know, Q and on ship people from
like Gateway Punded or formerly of Gateway Punded, just all
varieties of wacky all right kind of talk. Yeah, there
are a lot of bunch of goofballs there. But the
(29:36):
photos of the thing are so so sad, Like a
lot of Will Summer went to I guess a panel
that was called why you should subscribe to Beauty Pie
was a thing, uh and there were maybe nine people
like in this gigantic ballroom like for at a at
a hotel um and then even like the as like
(29:56):
the d C police said, they're like, oh yeah, a
couple doesn't like two of three dozen at most in
each room, but a lot of the journalists who are
there like that is a very generous estimation of the
count was a hundred sixty five bucks a ticket. And yeah,
like all these people, they're inconstant just like weird scandals
like Jack Poso Biak is like constantly been caught trying
(30:17):
to cheat on his wife on bumble by people, and
like Cernovich is just a weird, weird sad dude drinks
and goes like on live streams and just says nonsense,
like the brand is fucking just failing. It's just so
funny to be like evil and your problem is that,
like people don't really like you very much. It's kind
of unpopular and yeah, sorry, it's funny now it was,
(30:41):
but like that that used to be sort of what
I would have expected, but now it seems like this
is a new direction for the AULT right where they're
in somewhat of a spiral. Yeah, and like I think
they thought, well, I mean, I'm sure at the very
beginning of the administration and the like a tail end
of an election, like okay, there's there's we got an
(31:02):
audience here, and then they just they made their move
too late and realized, oh, nobody is working with us anymore.
And all the retweets I'm getting is probably from people
who are ridiculing me, right. And then Anthony Scaramucci was
there for some reason and apparently like gassed up a
bunch of Q and On believers, like at an event
called Coffee with Mooch, and apparently they're saying, uh, in
(31:26):
politically said he spoke glowingly of the theory, the Q
and On theory as a couple from Stafford, Virginia showed
their que paraphernalia. Uh. And then apparently he told these
people that He's like, you're not gonna believe who it
is to these people, yeah, and they're like, oh my god,
so you do know and he's like, yeah, you're not
gonna believe it, and then he goes away. And then
(31:47):
like these journalists and political went up from like, yo,
did you just tell them something about Q and On?
And he like kind of denied like he had said
anything about it, and then those same journalists went to
the couple he was talking to and they go, yeah,
he's talking about Q. So I mean, you know, I
don't take advantage of these people with their fantasy Q
and on. But that's so sad. But hey, you know
(32:10):
it's like Harry Potter for for baby boomers. Yeah, but
like sad, sort of lost spiritually and emotionally. Tweets and
like message board posts from Q followers when something happens
that makes it seem indisputable that the Q thing was bullshit. Yeah,
(32:30):
they're just or that Mueller is working against Trump rather
than with Trump, as they all believe. Like my I
haven't spoken my wife so stressful. I haven't spoken to
my wife in months. Please tell me this isn't like
I've lost my family over this. Like I really do
believe Q, but I need something to help me. It's like, oh,
(32:52):
just Gavin McGinnis, former vice co founder and Proud Boy leader.
Last week or a couple of weeks ago, the FBI
designated the Proud Boys as a extremist extremist group and
then took it back again like the special agent and charge.
They asked about it and they're like, well, I mean
(33:14):
it's not quite an extremist group, and it sounded I
don't know, it didn't quite wasn't convincing. I think the
FEDS are still investigating their actions, but maybe their designation
has been changed. Nothing means anything, right, it's very exciting. Well, yeah,
but now he's lost. Gavin mckinniss YouTube channels gone. He
was on like CRTV and The Blaze. When those two
(33:35):
gross networks teamed up together. They're like, oh, Gavin McGinness
will no longer have a show here. Uh. And he's been,
you know, he's been kind of just hiding in Westchester. Basically,
he's getting canceled because people recognize that his beliefs are awful.
But I don't know, if you look at the other
people who are on that network, you're like, these people
(33:55):
are just less maybe a grow Oh, like Steve and Crowder,
the guy who did the meme who's like, male privilege
doesn't exist, try and convince me otherwise, like that guy.
Children Yeah, great guy. It's more like that kind of
it's more like a sort of provocative conservative commentary. And
I guess maybe in that sense, like Gavin McGinnis, like
(34:16):
no one has quite a weird like quasi gang that
he does. But that's the line out. Okay, so, and
I mean deep platforming has worked. It seems like look
at fucking uh Milo. Yeah, Milo Unapolis is out here
begging people for money back yea, yeah, exactly, uh and
(34:38):
then denying that he's begging people for money and being
like I make forty K a month. Yeah, I didn't
have a book deal or something. Did that? Simon and
Schuster immediately vaporized. Yeah, this isn't a good look for us. Yeah,
I've stopped keeping track of Milan. He's not. He owed
Cardier like k or something like that. And jewelry, yeah
(35:01):
he had. He was in all kinds of trouble. But yeah,
that shows you know, like these people they get the
benefits of having their fuego take And people were like, whoa,
this is so crazy. I love it, And then after
a while like, so I think most people like this
is racist and xenophobic, homophobic, whatever, we need to get
the funk out of here, And then people aren't really
It's like it was all fun and games for a while, guys, Yeah,
(35:22):
but not anymore. And also in bad news for the right,
that Russian spy lady maybe flipping Maria Bettina. She I
assumed because the story basically seemed to indicate, as reported
a couple of months ago, when she was caught, that
she was a Russian operative who was trained by Russia
(35:44):
to infiltrate like the n r A and various conservative networks.
And based on that, you assume she's like more likely
to eat a cyanide pill than to like turn state's witness.
But well, it was weird because when she was in custody,
there was a lot of ports that like a lot
of Russian officials were visiting her in prison. Yeah, and
(36:04):
you're like, oh, that's not shady because she's a student,
as you say, who just got mixed up in some
weird stuff. Friends, Yeah, it's big deal. It's no big
deal up And yeah, and I think when you look
at sort of what happened with the n r A,
like them giving like thirty million dollars to the Trump campaign,
and a lot of the money they couldn't really trace
back to someone they believed was giving the money, they're like, Okay,
(36:26):
so was she the conduit to bring Russian money into
the campaign visa v. The n r A. But yeah,
the reason why everyone's like, oh, I think she's gonna
flip is because she told the judges like, I would
like to change my plea because initially she was I
am not guilty, So I don't know what you so
clearly you're maybe pleading guilty and you have some kind
of a little deal going or pleading extremely not guilty. Yeah,
(36:54):
so guilty. Yeah, but in good news for every buddy
on the right who has sticked their reputation and relationships
with their wives and children on the idea that Trump
has a plan and this is all going to come
together and Q is going to save us all. Don't
(37:15):
worry because Trump is cool as a cucumber, right, soul
as a cucumber, totally not doing weird panic tweeting in
the morning at all. Monday morning was very very very
calm tweeting about fucking he's so fucking pans. I don't
know what. It's a lot of okay, so what if
(37:37):
I did do it? Who cares? Yeah? And also I'm
the president and you're not iasically every subtext of every
tweet and the president you're not right. Well, I think
after you know, we saw all the filings that Mueller
made over the weekend. In regards to Cohen's cooperation in
Maniforts lies, the Maniford document was so censored, so we'll
(37:59):
never or quite know yet what was going on there.
But with the Cohen one, you could tell that he
definitely wasn't cooperating at first, which is why the Southern
District of New York is like, no, this guy needs
going to Jael. But it also basically shows that the
president directed two felonies to be committed, and that is like,
so he might not be technically this sort of named
(38:21):
co conspirator, but like it's getting closer and closer, and
individual one is he is so lovingly referred to in
all these documents as my new favorite thing to call him. Um. Yeah,
Like it's just getting worse and darker. And now we're
seeing like that there were at least fourteen different people
in the Trump camp that were contacted by Russia. Yeah. Yeah,
(38:41):
it seems like those two documents were filed by Mueller
last week, but it took people a while to kind
of like piece together what all the information was, and
then over the weekend people start being like, oh, this
is really bad for Yeah, this does not look good
and for the president facing league like criminal liability when
he's out of offic because like, okay, we're not going
to try and figure out, you know, can you indict
(39:03):
a sitting president or whatever? He's like, but guess what,
whenever your term is over and you're just a regular
Joe again, you could be facing some real criminal liability. Yeah,
that's what I don't like that we're adding motivation for
him to never not be president, right, yeah, yeah, let's
tell him it'll happen and given time, we don't know
(39:24):
what's tough because he's losing support within the party though, too,
because they realize how much of a hit they're taking
in terms of like their their brand, their party platform
not being really appealing to anybody except for a very
close minded like white Americans, And you know, I think
he needs that. And then even like Marco Rubio on
the Sunday Shows, he didn't quite defend Trump and be like, oh,
(39:47):
this is all bullshit, He did a half ast like, well, yeah,
we're seeing a lot of things, but let's look at
everything before we jump to conclusions, meaning like it seems
like he's still trying to weigh which way he wants
to go. But I think as we look at the
president's evolving quote unquote legal strategies over the years. He
usually goes from I never did it. I don't know
if you're talking about fake news too. Okay, I might
(40:09):
have done it. Maybe I don't know. I can't remember too.
Maybe I did it. Who cares? And then finally would
be I did it, But I'm the president, So what
the you gonna do? So we'll see where where this
goes from here? All Right, we're gonna take a quick break.
We'll be right back, and we're back. And one of
(40:35):
the weirder kind of ongoing trends that we've seen in
the zeitgeist is back in the news. Miles Yeah, ghost
fucking yeah, spectrophilia. Uh, that's not a joke. It seems
to be a thing. It seems to be a thing
that people are reporting is happening in their lives. Well,
(40:59):
first there was a woman from I think the UK
who met an Australian ghost. And then she was like,
and we joined the mile high club. Okay, you masturbated
in the airport in an airplane bathroom. Yeah, okay, thank you.
And that was a story. And then when I brought
up this morning, somebody was like, didn't we just talk
about this. I'm like, no, this is a different story.
This is about a woman in Ireland named Amanda Sparrow
(41:23):
Large who is a very very enthusiastic Captain Jack Sparrow impersonator,
and she spent a lot of money to look like
Captain Jack. She changed her middle name to be Sparrow.
And at first she was like in the news a
few years ago, because there's like woman like has is
done with regular men, is into ghosts. And the story
goes that she felt the presence of a three hundred
(41:46):
year old Haitian ghost who was killed for thievery on
the high seas. Okay, and and when I feel like
the theme here is that everyone seems to have a
lot of details about the backgrounds ghosts. And yes, I mean,
I guess it's nice they're getting to know each other before. Yeah,
(42:07):
but well, okay, well this is what she said he
looked like the Pirates of the Caribbean character, adding he
is dark skinned and has jet black hair. So he
tells me she's weird. That's weird to me. So you're
just only feeling the presence and his hot ghost breath
on you. Um, And then so then she said, cold
ghost breath. I don't know. I would. I would hope
(42:29):
that's like the one thing that the ghost can maintain,
he says steam. Yeah, thank you can maintain another thing
if you read the rest of the story. Yeah, well,
Amanda's feelings where Jack grew as they got to know
each other more, and then one day he told her
they could actually be The other thing is if you
know what I'm saying, thank you, Thank comedian. I will
be here all night. Although she never had a spiritual
(42:51):
boyfriend before, she did some research and realized she wasn't
the only one to have a relationship with the spirit.
I told him I wasn't really cool with having casual
sex with his spirit and I want at us to
make a proper commitment to each other. I want a
big traditional wedding with the white dress. It was very
important to me. But sadly this story is about how
this low affair has come to an end and she ghost.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I never that back, she said.
(43:16):
She just came out with a statement recently which brought
her name back in the news. I said, I will
explain all in due course. Uh, but for now, all
I want to say is be very her emphasis careful
when dabbling in spirituality is not something to mess with. Hey,
that's what exorcists have been saying lately. Yeah, you know,
it's it's just so funny. It's just like she's speaking
(43:37):
the same way. What if you had like a bad expert.
It sounds like she's just trying to she's just trying
to put Haitian men in a bad light on top,
but don't get involved with these Haitians because she didn't
say that that would be amazing if the conclusion, I
just I feel like, why did us someone what? What
(44:00):
does her friends and family thing? Because she has five children,
and no one was like, okay, so mom has expressed
interest in becoming Jack Sparrow. Should we address that? Should
we do something before it becomes worse? She says a
lot of it comes up, which that she h I
(44:21):
think identifies as a sexual and then well that's fine,
and then I think her but she was saying like
around her community that it was very like not supportive
of anything she did. So maybe this just kind of
maybe she I don't know how alienated she was from
her family already, she's not close with the family. They
don't say how close she is, But I don't know, Like, yeah,
(44:42):
if you're saying, like, yo, mom, what the what's good
with all this Jack Sparrow ship, I'm not saying it
has to be phrased like that. They could have a
nice they could have a nice sit down with her
and figure out what's going on deeper. I mean, clearly
she is obsessed with like this sort of fab list
version of history. She dresses up like a Disney version
(45:04):
of a job from history, So she's already, you know,
obsessed with history. And then I do wonder, you know,
as we become lonelier and our interactions with other people
become more mediated by technology, like what what's to distinguish
dating somebody who you meet online and never see from,
(45:26):
Like some dude that you're reading about and imagining is
like going back to back and forth to you. I mean,
I guess I guess we should just say, does everyone
here not believe in ghosts? Where we are? We think?
I want to take Okay, this does just all the
(45:51):
stories that we've been covering about, Like we've talked recently
about how the Catholic Church is reporting a spike in exorcism,
and The Atlantic wrote like an in depth article about it,
and it it was pretty unnerving. And now everybody's fucking ghosts.
It feels like the beginning of Ghostbusters too, when like
all these like weird things in New York City and
(46:12):
it's like there's something amiss, right, and that toaster was
acting up in the kitchen to sure, I wonder if
it is because because we have become so technologically aligned, right,
the opposite would be to embrace a fucking ghost, Like
if if you took, like at how the pendulum is
swinging more and more violently towards technology, Like ghosts feel
(46:32):
like the spirit world is like anti technology. That maybe
that's just something we're seeing across the board, is like spirits.
Some people hear it, some people fear it. Are out
here just embracing it. I don't know. Yeah, And I
mean you have more access to like a greater variety
of historical documents from that period, so you can get
like more in touch with a period in history than
(46:56):
you ever have been able to before, just because of
the Internet and having the entire history of information at
your fingertips. And then yeah, if you feel lonely or
you feel isolated by technology, maybe maybe this is a
different direction to take it. Now. The other alternative reason
that we've seen two stories like this in a row
is because somebody wrote that first story and then other
(47:21):
newsrooms saw that it got a lot of clicks, and
then they check up on that other lady. Well because right,
because there's always people with mental illnesses pitching stories to newsrooms.
That actually was one of my first jobs out of
college was at ABC responding to read or mail. And
the thing you realize quickly is like of the letters
(47:42):
to the newsroom are people who are paranoid and think
they're being like right, right, right, and they're like, oh,
I've got a scoop for you. Yeah exactly, people who
think there's no way they won't respond because this is
huge news. Yes, right exactly, Like I'm fucking a ghost
who's a Haitian pirate'll be in content back soon. I'll
speak with you then. But I could see something like this,
(48:05):
like there was this story in the in the New
York or recently. You have enough time to get through
all the New Yorkers. Yeah, I had it for a
fucking like three months, and I was like, no, too
many magazines. It caused a lot of anxiety, but when
when I do have time to read it, it's worthwhile.
And there was this article about how they're making digital
(48:26):
imprints of Holocaust survivors at this museum in the l
A area, I think where um, they basically put a
Holocaust survivor in a room with like a hundred and
sixteen cameras I think it is, and they just asked
them like thousands of questions about their experience, and it's
basically in order to recreate like that person for future
(48:50):
generations once like Holocaust survivors have passed on, and like
they're basically getting a full imprint of like every ants
or to every question that somebody might have, and you'll
just be able to like sit across from a Holocaust
survivor like once they've all passed away. So I do
wonder if there's like some technological version of this coming
(49:15):
where we can date people who have been dead for
a hundred years. Could you imagine like our great grandchildren
and they're like, I'm with a Holocaust survivor, right, digital imprint.
That's why I'm in love with yeah, because in theory,
if you've asked someone, I mean, I guess they're just
asking questions about their experience? Are they asking them questions
about like themselves and their life? Like what do you
(49:36):
think about? Because it's like in theory, if you really
like sat someone down and ask them every possible question,
then you could know them as like this hologram or whatever. Right. Yeah,
it's like, wasn't there that that article that was like
the questions you asked to fall in love or whatever.
(49:57):
It's like some version of that. But also that's crazy
that they're doing that with Holocaust survivors, so weird and heavy. Yeah,
but I guess it makes sense just for posterity, you know,
like that you have this thing that it won't be
like you know, written text can be vague sometimes or
can be interpreted a few ways, and but to have
someone like see them answer the questions or whatever happen.
(50:20):
It's crazy also that it's like, I'm sure there are
Holocaust survivors who are like, I'd rather not sit and
answer every possible question. Yeah, they're definitely. This was about
one specific woman English Loss who was a childhood friend
of Anne Frank and like had this really fascinating way
that her life inner twined with Anne Frank's and Anne
(50:41):
Frank's father actually married her mother after her father and
Ann Frank's mother passed away. Um. Yeah, I mean sometimes
I feel like we're giving people a sort of digital
imprint of ourselves as podcast hosts that released five hours
of ourselves talking on a weekly basis that like just
(51:02):
what y'all still don't know me? That's not true? You
know or not? My dad over the weekend was like, yeah, man,
I learned more about you through listening to the show
than you can tell you. Yeah, And I'm like, we'll
look up hashtag more seven hashtag you never came to
my track. I mean, if he would talk to you
that as often as you do this podcast, well, I
think it's weird because there's a lot of anecdotal stuff
(51:24):
that I bring up from my childhood or whatever that
like at the time, like why would my parents know
about like my misdeeds as Oh yeah, my mom listens
to my podcast as well, and she will correct me
and she'd be like, that's not true. She's like, I
never went to J. C. Penny. I'm like, okay, I'm sorry,
I didn't correct me. Is like, you know, your grandfather
was the first black man to shop at Fedko before
(51:45):
it became Costco. That's no, but that's a bizarre claim.
My grandfather has been saying for a long time, like
I was the first black man to shop Fedko. It
was like cool, that's awesome. Yeah. And one other story
we wanted to talk about for all you parents out there, uh,
is the question of whether it's harder for kids to
(52:06):
believe in Santa Claus. In two thousand eighteen, our writer
Jam McNabb contributed the story. He said he had been
seeing this all over the news. Yeah, this this is
the other story that's been dominating the headlines. Is he
was pointing out that a substitute teacher was removed from
a New Jersey school district after telling a group of
first graders that Santa Claus is not real. And then
(52:28):
a bishop in Illinois told kids that the good works
of St. Nicholas were gradually changed into the story of
Santa Claus, but that it was like this historical construction
and not uh and not a magical being who comes
down your chimney. And he was pointing out that this
is actually a thing. He saw those two stories last
(52:50):
year and he was like, oh, they're telling the same
thing again. But it was a different substitute teacher and
a different bishop doing it. So it's like it's a
thing that's out there, that that is happening. Sons. If
you work with kids and you have like a breakdown
one day, just like Santa's not real? Right? What can
I hate all of you? Yeah? I can't put my
hands on him right to the next thing. He just
(53:11):
you know, Santy is a fucking joke, my man. But
you are a freaking idiot. It's stupid that you ever
thought he was. You're so stupid. I'm sorry say that again.
How does Santa do it? Sorry? I thought I was
supposed to teach you that. Let's think about that, Okay,
Savannah and Mackenzie, Okay, yeah, he flies around in one
fucking have you ever really thought about it yet? And
(53:31):
then the Florida version, of course, a man stood in
the middle of the Cape Coral Festival of Lights on
Saturday and screamed that Santa Claus isn't real for like
an hour, for hours, actually multiple hours. Wait what yeah?
Tormenting children and making them cry? Sure, and that's a
First Amendment baby, yeah, exactly, So that should be put
(53:52):
in the laws with like you can't yell fire. You
also can't yell Santa, isn't I mean, I don't did
you pay? Did you grow up leaving Santa? Yeah? But
I like, um, my friends growing up were like my
neighbors who are all like a couple of years older
than me. And then so I found out pretty early. Okay, yeah,
how early? Like I can't remember how old I was,
(54:13):
but I remember my mom being like, you're too little.
I told it, but I felt bad. I didn't want
to get my friend in trouble. So I was like, oh,
I could just tell that on the presence that say
that from Santa. It's your handwriting, right, That's like it
was a Lisa, wasn't that? I was like, it was.
This is just the war on Christmas? You know what
I mean? Keep going. You get these people equivalent of
(54:33):
a suicide bomber of Christmas to go at this fair
and be like, Santa isn't real in front of these kids?
Are you serious? Sean Hannity do something I thought you
were going to say. It's because of the Internet. Yeah,
so look it up. Well, yeah, that is true. So
the additional wrinkle in the modern world his kids can
just ask Alexa like, is Santa Claus Real, and what
(54:56):
does Alexa say to that if the parents haven't Alexa
Santa Real? And I just fucked up so many people
because people always go, you're supposed to echo echo whatever. Anyways,
the regular version is Santa makes a lot of people
ho ho hopeful for a happy holiday, and I definitely
believe in that. So you you have to question, Yeah,
(55:18):
if you were a kid and Alexa gave you that response,
you'd probably just move on and not and be like, well,
I guess I have to go google it. Well. Google
is even kind of careful with their ship too, Like
when you search it, it doesn't actually give you like
a yes or no. It just gives you all sorts
of like fan art and porn of Santa just having
(55:39):
sex with like Penny from Inspector Gadget. Yeah, oh yeah,
they show you like It'll give you a link to
the Santa tracker on Google, and then underneath of of
slew of articles show up I like, yo, how to
like tell your kids because we get it. A lot
of you need this as like a disciplinary crutch to
(56:00):
be like, Yo, Santa, you want that ships and I'll
call him. Yeah, Santa is both carrot and stick we're
talking about earlier, because you have the if you're good,
but you can also if you're bad. That's that's the
genius of the Santa myth. We are not quite at
the point where we are using that because I don't
think my son is old enough to fully grasp the
(56:23):
the idea of what Christmas is gonna be. Yeah, he's
gonna be stoked what he finds that. I just remember,
you know, I wonder the people who are like really
out there being like I'm gonna tell these kids it
doesn't exist. If they're coming from a place of they
never had the magic of Santa, so they're just they're salty,
or they believe that she is so hardcore. And because
(56:44):
there was a guy who we were going to talk
about it last week or I was gonna put in
the dock last week of this dude who went on
Hannity to talk he was like a child psychologist, like
it's not necessarily the best thing to tell your kids
at Santa is real and insist that Santa is real,
or use that as a disciplinary crutch like and it
was andn't even like the most sound thing, Like it's
going to cause long term tryal just sort of looking
at it like trust in a relationship or whatever. If
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some of these people are like they were really upset
that the Santa thing got ruined for them, and now
they just want to make sure kids don't have to
feel the same pain. There's definitely at least three Hallmark
movies and that premise alone right there. Somebody is a
professional Santa skeptic and then like like some some Christmas
(57:27):
magic enters their life and makes them a believer that
has probably already been made multiple times by Hallmark. Yeah,
I just couldn't. I got in trouble for saying Santa
didn't exist a lot. Yeah, because you were a skeptical
three year old. I think like, well, my parents, you know,
my mom's from Japan and my dad's like an artist,
and so they're not like in terms of American culture tradition,
(57:49):
they're like outliers. So I wasn't being like fed the
thing of like in Santa's real and like make your
list or whatever. All the ship I got would be
from going to school and hearing it at school. But
at home it was like, yeah, saying exists, And I
remember I've stayed up all night and I saw my parents,
you know, putting presents under the tree, and like, all right,
then I'll see you on the morning. I see how
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it is the fact that they let you stay up.
They had no no I was sneaking. I was on
some like pretend I'm asleep ship and then go out
and be like what's going on. It's not like a
weird pressure that we put on parents where it's like
if you accidentally let your kids see you putting the
Christmas presents, now you've ruined their childhood. You're a bad parent. Well,
(58:32):
it's almost like the anti vaxer thing if you tell
your kids, because they're going to tell everybody that they
know that it's a lie. So like you're almost keeping
it up for other parents who want you to keep
it up. But it turns into this like enforced morality
that seems kind of silly when you sit back and
you're like, okay, wait, so I have to tell my
kids this magical being enters our home, but now I'm
(58:55):
bad if I don't do that. You have a tradition
suicide bomber and form of your child who goes into
school and spreads the word not Santa. Right, so you
kind of have to be careful because you're making the
decision for your kid, but also everybody else's kids. Dad,
I mean, the truth is the truth. I'd be like, oh,
so Santa's real. Yeah so online to my kid. Yeah,
(59:15):
I mean I remember problem mark. I was really mad
and dispirited when I found out for like an afternoon,
and then I was like I get it because my
little sister still believed, and I was like, oh, this
is fun to like I felt like in school to
like around third grade or something, they were kids who
cried about hearing like that was a thing. I feel
like I remember being like they just found out Santa
(59:36):
wasn't real. Yeah, sad, Yeah, like what I feel like
I remember in meaning like almost nothing to me. I
was just like, okay, I guess that makes sense. Yeah right,
I'm good. I also used to every time I'll go
see Santa like Kmart or whatever, I would sob oh.
Yeah I hated it. So I was like, good, I
don't have to go to Santa anymore because I get scared.
(59:57):
They're scary. There's some pretty handy tips in the Guardian
that are like how to like mentally jiu jitsu your
kids about Santa. Like one woman was like, tell your
kids when they get old enough that now they are Santa.
What they are the one who can now spread gratitude
and joy after you tell them Santa doesn't exist, right, No,
that you know that their whole thing is about like
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just sort of constantly tailoring it so you never say
that it doesn't exist. That you kind of move along
with their intelligence that eventually they'll realize it doesn't exist.
But you're not always been like, Santa is real, he's
this magical dude or whatever. Just be like and you
see other people dressed like him, because many of us
can be Santa. Santa is a spirit that you want
to that you want to have sex. Right, Santa is
(01:00:41):
a sexually transmitted disease that because you sat on his lap,
your dirty now and you are Santa? Is that the
premise of the Tim Allen Yeah, well, Page, it has
been a pleasure having you. It's been wonderful to be here.
Where can people find you? Um, I'm on the internet.
Page Alden on Twitter, Instagram. You can also listen to
(01:01:03):
my podcast mall Talk Talk at maltalk pod on also
Twitter and Instagram, and uh tell us about the mall
Talk Oh. I hosted with my friend another comedian, Emily Faye.
We have a guest on. We talked about them all.
We talked about a specific store, their mall, growing up,
stuff like that, play games. Could I come on? Yeah,
because I used to work at the mall where Fashion Square?
(01:01:26):
At what store? The Coach store. Yeah, we're gonna have
to we have to talk about that. And I ate
so many wetsels pretzels, every motherfucking are you Wetzels or
an Auntie Ann's. Well they had they only had Wetzels there,
Auntie Auntie Ann's, as I say, Auntie very fancy that
that was. That was the first foray into pretzel addiction.
(01:01:47):
And then I think Wetzels just became a little more
It's a little more accessible. Yeah, and they went a
little more outside the box. They were like, what else
can we do with this? Though, Let's put some more
stuff on there to wrap a hot dog in it, Pepperoni.
I think Antis does some of that it. Yeah, it
doesn't really, Yes, And they don't have like drinks that
are so sweet they melt your teeth. It's bad. This
(01:02:10):
is this is matalk. Yeah, are oh? I like this
one from the Moonpie Twitter account where they screenshot at
d M that says the moonpie should contain more fiber.
I am oh in my opinion, and they tweeted okay
baby because the picture is a picture of a baby.
(01:02:36):
I really like that. Yeah, Yes, I like memes is
what I'm I mean. They're funny. That's why they're popular.
Miles where can people find you? Follow me and Instagram
and Twitter at miles of gray tweets I like. One
is from past guest LORI kill Martin. It says Britain
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admit you fucked up and begged the EU to take
you back. And another one is from Jake at Jake
g R n R. It just says it's a quote tweet. First,
it's offset going fuck y'all, I miss Cardi and his
quote is sir, this is a McDonald's uh tweet. I've
(01:03:20):
been enjoying. Uh. James Felton tweeted a picture of the
headline from the mail that says may back me or
get Corbin and no Brexit, and he tweeted rarely seeing
quote eat your vegetables or we're buying a puppy and
going to Disneyland. Parenting tactic here um and steely. Dan
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Fogelberg tweeted comedians bitching about PC culture is the new
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out on miles Uh. This is another one from that
Japanese band Fishman's that I was really digging. I kept
listening to their music and I liked it more and more.
This song is called baby Blue and they've got a
little reggae vibe to it. And shout out to the
(01:04:24):
zigang dude who made that Ross putin mean because you
did it. You've done good because it looked great. But yes,
this is called baby Blue by Fishman's. All right, we're
gonna ride out on that. We will be back tomorrow
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Hello the Internet, and welcome to season sixty two, episode
two of their Daily eight Guys Yeah, the podcast where
we take a deep dive into America's share consciousness using
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O'Brian with Jack O'Brien. That's right on Tom The Zightgang
with co host Miles and I'm thrilled to be joined
as always by my co host, Mr Miles Gray. It's
Miles Gray on the second rate to the Zeit Gang.
I'm checking in. There's an old man sitting next to me.
(00:44):
Came from Cracked Now he's podcasting kiding Weston Reynolds for
that piano man. Wait were you listening to that earlier?
Because I was just about to say, I do not
know why, but I have piano man stuck in my head. Yeah, well,
kind I just want to make sure I had on
my local melody when I gotta got it. Well, you
like where I normally sort of gaslights you by like
(01:06):
subtly giving you ear warm songs. Yeah, I'm happy to
be that old man and not and you're not even
full the original song who uh is making love to
a genin ton Ah? This was congealed to sorry to
show people the behind the scenes of this show. But
I started drinking Bulletproof cold brew that has a fat
and stuff in it, and every time it can ngeals
(01:28):
and I'm drinking gravy milk. Yeah, it's sucked up. Bulletproof
needs to figure out how to mass produce uh sh Well,
We're thrilled to be joined by a hilarious comedian who
has done stand up on Two Dope Queen's She's done
(01:49):
acting in the reboot of Heather. Here's saying Comedy Central's
corporate page Weldon, welcome back. Oh, thank you so much, guys,
Hie you too. I'm worried about this Congeli. I know,
I don't know what's happening. In the beginning was very fine, fine,
always seamless, and then like the last two weeks, people
have just been cracking open this congeal mess. And I
(02:10):
think maybe our refrigerator is too cold, so the fat
is hardening up in the thing, and then you gotta
switch it down from four to three or whatever. Well, yeah,
we can actually do it by the temperature. Excuse me,
I don't have a fancy fringe. I don't know how
it works in your ice box. Yeah, I've just been
putting things in salt back in my place, some salted meats. Yeah,
(02:34):
I guess I'm weird. Yeah. The thing that you wh
when somebody tells you about bulletproof coffee that it's coffee
that has butter in it. The gross thing that comes
to your mind is actually what happens when you get
it and it separates. Yeah, it separates. You have chunks
of butter in your coffee. Yeah, it's the only bulletproof
I've ever had. I personally like it a lot. Would
(02:56):
you like it chunky? Yeah? I like chunky bever is
in general. I like my milk that when it's like
a couple of weeks past curdling. Hyah, Now I'm dying. Alright, Well, alright, Paide,
we're going to get to know you. This is gonna
be the whole episode. I hope everybody's good with that.
(03:19):
We're going to get to know you a little bit
better in a moment. But first we're gonna tell our
listeners a couple of things we're talking about today. We're
gonna talk about the latest NBA point guard All Star
phenomen who has announced that they believe something very very stupid.
Following up Kyrie Irving, Steph Curry has announced that he
(03:41):
doesn't think we've been to the moon. We're gonna talk
about the two hardest jobs to fill right now, the
two jobs nobody wants oscar host and White House chief
of staff. Typically not that hard to fill this year
for whatever reason, uh difficult. We're gonna talk about just
things going so for the alt right in general, and
(04:03):
the fact that that Russian spy lady from a while
back she may be flipping as well. I thought she
was gonna be like the hardest person to get to flip.
We're also going to talk about ghost fucking. But you
knew that. But first Tuesday it ghoest fucking Tuesday Spector
files page. What is something from your search history that's
(04:24):
revealing about who you are? Well? I feel like what
I google is phrases or expressions I've just used, and
I am unsure if I use them right right. So
recently I googled see above because I had been writing,
you know, an email and I at the end of
it was referencing something above. I said, see above, and
(04:47):
immediately I was like, is that is that something people say?
Did I just invent that? And it is something people say? Speak? Ye,
but it just sounded wrong because I overthought it. I'm
always convinced I've done it wrong. Did you spell it
like the ocean? Yeah? Yeah? What? Um? Was the thing
(05:09):
you were referencing like above? It? I used it completely correctly.
I just convinced myself that I'm an idiot and I
made something up. What's the origin of the second guessing
of things that even like grammatically track and you're like,
I don't know, I may have sucked that up. I
just feel like so often I'll use an expression that
I think everyone knows and someone will be like, what
(05:30):
is that? What did you just say? And I'll be like,
I really thought that everyone said that. I was trying
to use that expression that's like um, you can fill
in whatever you want, but you say like something rich,
something else poor, like I'm your bulletproof coffee rich, lack
of curdling poor. I don't know, this is a bad example, Yeah,
(05:52):
something like this. It's not a time where I would
use it. But I feel like I've used that before
and someone's looked at me, like, what are you talking about? Right,
You're like, I'm friend rich but cash poor. Yeah, what
what does that mean? Yes, use me page, You're not poor. Okay,
your privileged needs to be checked right now. I'm like,
it's an expression. You just talked to too many dumb people.
(06:13):
I think, Yeah, I gotta get all these idiots. You're
letting other people's ignorance make you doubt your own intelligence.
I'm really smart. So um, that was what I wanted
to get out there. See above. I think is definitely
the less common because usually you're referring to a previous
email in the chain, which is below, But see above,
you're just referring to something awesome. You've already said, yeah,
(06:37):
I'm just so hyper organized that people are not on
my level. And it's later in the outline, the five
page outline that you've emailed to somebody. Yeah, email me sometime,
I'll send you some bullet points. What is something you
think is overrated? Airbnb? Okay, I'm gonna come out and
say it. Airbnb is overrated. How many experience I'm going
(07:01):
to come out and say it's like, thank you for
taking your tremendous risk with it. I mean, okay, I
get that it's a better deal, but how many Airbnb
experiences have you had that are ten out of ten?
I feel like most Airbnb experiences I have are kind
of weird or very weird and not worth it. You guys,
A B and B A lot I have. I don't
(07:22):
like to stay in anything less than a five star hotel.
So I've done it for like a bit for research,
just to see what. Yeah. Yeah, I was at this
this penthouse apartment in Vancouver, Canada, which is great, had
its own elevator, and I had a good time. I
would give it eight out of ten for service. There
was no concierge. But now, so, what are the places
(07:43):
you stay at just people's rooms? Oh? I mean I've
had experiences where like I usually try to pick the
one that's like you have the whole place. I just
feel like there's always something off, like it's unsettling in
some way. Um. I definitely have had the experience of
one time I was staying somewhere with my boyfriend. It
was like a separate area. It was like the top
(08:06):
floor of this woman's place. And she kept reiterating. She
was just like, and we do live below, but we
can't hear anything, so don't worry. It's always like something
happens that makes me feel like I'm being filmed or
something is going on, and I'm just like, Okay, I
know that, Like, there can be good experiences, but at
(08:28):
least with a hotel, you know, if you're picking a
shitty hotel, like you know what you're getting into. And
the person who you're interacting with has gone into hospitality
presumably because they're okay at interacting with people and they're
not going to give you the impression that they're filming you.
They're not just a person who has a spare room.
(08:48):
Well we might as well. Yeah, I mean, for a
hundred bucks a night, we could be making way more
people uncomfortable. Honey, let's have someone say, you know, my
lack of people skills. Let's put having strangers come through
our house and trends sleep next to us. I can't
we can't hear anything, we can't see anything. Had a
resolution above three six. Yeah, there's just always something wrong,
(09:12):
and I just think it's been overall bad for society.
I thought you're gonna I thought the take was about
the like housing crises another yeah, weird host angle too. Yeah,
I just think I don't know. I I don't like
that they're expanding into these experience just stop. I think,
what are they expanding into experiences and stuff which are
(09:36):
fucking scar Remember I was telling you about one because
in Hollywood, like they were just doing ones where it's
like follow a Hollywood actor that will show you all
the cool spots and like I'm like, Okay, who is
this person? You pull up their IMDb. They did like
one thing like a featured extra part and then they
present themselves to Airbnb like guests. As I've been in
(09:57):
Hollywood acting for fourteen years and I know all the
ins and outs where producers hang out and they'll sell
people on like this bizarro version of l A that
they can guide them through. Yeah, it's like, aren't there
enough ways to scam tourists? Why are we doing this? Yeah?
There was one that was like how did write poetry
and Runyon Canyon? Now that I'd like to do? Funny
(10:19):
that someone was like, Yo, someone could pay me forty bucks,
I'll take him to Runyon and I'll be like, I'm
a poet and we'll work on your poetry. Dude, just
do Postmates or lift or something. And that person was
the most surprised that their thing didn't sell like hotcakes.
I'm sure. The one that I did see people get
a lot of bad reviews on was a guy who
said he could get you into any nightclub, and then
(10:41):
a lot of people from the Midwest show up and
they're like, I couldn't believe how rude the door people were.
They said, we weren't dressed right, and it was sort
of like, you know, you probably that this guy was
just gonna part the sea of thirsty people at the
club and you would just walk right in and then yeah,
and then the guy was like, I'm sorry, scamera. So
what's the Airbnb? How is airbnb contributing to the housing
(11:04):
crisis because people just buy houses to airbnb out. Yeah,
there are a lot of yeah, exactly, there are a
lot of properties like apartment units that other peoples like, oh,
this would be a passive income thing. I'll keep someone
from actually living there, starting a family or whatever. Got it? Okay, Yeah,
that makes sense. There was also that long read a
couple of years ago about somebody who's went to an
(11:26):
Airbnb with their whole family like family reunion thing, and
their dad set on like a tree swing and the
branch broke off and killed him. Sorry, it's not funny.
And but because it was just like and they were
talking about how like Airbnb just doesn't you know, they
don't check anything. So all these things that you assume,
(11:48):
like you kind of are in this mind state that
you're like on a tourist experience, so it's as safe
as other tourist experience you've been on. It's like, no,
this is just some dude like set that up a
couple of days ago, like set up a poor very
little accountability to It's like at a hotel, if something
that is wrong, you just go to the desk. If
if something goes wrong at an airbnb, you're on the
(12:10):
phone with them for days trying to get your money back. Yeah. Yeah, no,
it's a lot. What is something you think is underrated?
Eli Loco okay local, thank you? Yeah. I love that restaurant.
I feel like it is one of the best, if
not the best, in terms of fast food, and people
(12:30):
are not giving enough credit. Yo, that's this is I
like this. I'm thinking now, I really do like and
I don't give it enough love. Actually, I'm always talking
about Taco Bell and other places, but I mean that's
a totally different things. Like I love Taco Bell as well,
but they're very highly rated in the world. I feel
(12:52):
I feel like El Boy Loco is not getting enough
love there. Yo. I used to be addicted to their
pinto beans like that adjected, But like I used to,
I used to just be like I would only eat that.
I would eat a family sized thing of pinto beans.
Now this is a fairly regional one, right, I think
southern California. I'm not sure. I mean definitely, I've only
(13:15):
headed out here. I think it's in other places as well,
but I've not researched properly. It's not in New York.
I just searched New York and it said there are
no restaurants located in New York. So the first one.
So it's California, Nevada, Arizona, Utah, Texas. But it was
started in Mexico. Okay, yeah, but I shout out from
(13:39):
Narcos Mexico. I've just been watching so much. I've been
hearing so much about Sinaloa recently. Not shout out to
the next, But I always thought I always thought loco
was what Gus is Fried Chicken from Breaking Bad was
based on because similar, I think, well, hey, let's not well.
Are you trying to say that they're caught up in
(13:59):
some kind of drup trafficking? No, okay, I hope you
wouldn't say that about them? No, No, no saying follow
the money. Hey, there's a red laser on your shirt.
And finally, what is a myth? What's something people think
is true you know to be false? Okay, I don't
know if this is definitely false, But I feel like
people overhype the idea that a succulent is like an
(14:19):
easy plant. I feel like when you're a person who's
like I always kill plants, people are like, well, why
don't you get a succulent? And I'm like, because I'll
also kill the succulent. I don't know what you want
me to do. They're like, what am I supposed to do?
I get a plant, I don't water it for months
at a time, and then I just smash it on
the floor. Yeah. Basically, so what's going wrong? I have?
(14:41):
I have a succulent right now that I've been told
by the person I purchased it from a nice kiosk
at them all that you're supposed to water one tablespoon
a week, and every time I do, and I'm like,
this doesn't seem like enough and that's why I killed him.
But I'm trying. I'm trying. So you over Water, like
I don't know, like Lenny from of my summing, you
just love do not know my own straight. I don't know.
(15:06):
I just feel like people like to be like, oh
it's easy, like there's no way you could kill one.
And I'm like, try me, show I'll do it. It's
prove to you. Yeah, I didn't really. Yeah, Overwater, I
think succulents work for me because it's just about the
pace at which I remember to water plane. Yeah, all right,
it's still good. It's still yeah. Yeah, I've killed bamboo before.
(15:29):
I don't know what's wrong with me. Yeah, bamboo is
like people try to kill it because it like that's impressive. Yeah.
I take my head off to you as somebody who
also is bad at taking care of Thanks for all right,
let's talk Steph Curry. He recently announced he does not
(15:52):
believe we landed on the moon. Uh, this is just
always a bummer for me, and yeah, it wasn't. It
was just last week. We're like, this guy is the
perfect he's a role model. When you say he announced it,
he what do you mean, get up, Steph Curry. I
don't believe we went to the moon, so that appears
to be a direct quote. Was he high at the
(16:13):
time or he doesn't seem like he gets high. I mean,
I feel like the amount of people that believe this
would shock you. Like I feel like whenever someone says that,
I'm like, it's always someone who I thought was like fine, Yeah.
The Warriors star appeared on Winging It with Vince Carter,
Kemp Baysmore, and Andre Iguodala. I guess that's a podcast,
(16:34):
but I wouldn't check it out, just keep listening daily.
I guess now. I feel that kind of takes your
getting on the Curry said we ever been to the moon?
Multiple responders, Nope, Curry, they're gonna come get us. I
don't think so either. Uh so everyone there was an agreement,
uh huh yeah, Vince Carter two. So that apparently is
(16:54):
widespread amongst NBA players right there is like this weird,
like I don't trust what they're they show us in
space sentiment like Kyrie Irving when he was a flat earther,
and his more thing was like, so I should just
believe this thing because people keep teaching us that that's
the truth. And you're like, what then is signed? And
I guess when you put it that way, well right?
(17:16):
And then he finally came back around. I was like,
you know, that was actually a poor lead, that was
a poor opinion. Yeah, Tyree came back around, and I
think because enough people were like, this is It's like
one of those things where it's like he's never said
it out loud to that many people before, and then
everyone was like, yeah, don't you know, honey, ye look
(17:36):
at this. I mean, you know what, what proof does
he need? Exactly? Like he just doesn't believe that humans
were able to land on the Moon. The arguments that
I've always heard moon skeptics moon Hoaxer's point to suggests
that they've only ever seen that one picture with the
flag and the wind. Where's the wind? How's it? How's
(17:59):
the flag flying out to the side, And like there
are hours of footage of people like running around on
the moon and jumping and playing golf on the moon.
With like a level of gravity that would have been
impossible to pull off given the special effects like at
the time. And there's also a thing they do, these
like laser ranging retro reflectors. They leave left them up there,
(18:22):
and we send lasers up to the Moon and they
reflect back because we've been there and there are devices
for reflecting back to Maybe he's angling for a free
trip to the Moon, you know what I mean. We're like,
I don't know, man, I would have to be up
there myself for free. He's like, if you sent me there,
I would definitely post on Instagram and it would get
(18:45):
the Moon some good publicity. I think it's funny that
there's you're like listing all this evidence and I'm just like,
I've never even known about that because I was always
just like, oh yeah, yeah, I don't need to research this,
but this is just true. They actually sent a lunar
reconnaissance orbiter a thing to like go around the Moon
and take photographs of it, not explicitly for this, but
(19:07):
it happened to like the camera was owned by a
non US government source, and uh, they found that the
Moon isn't even real. Yeah, they were able to photograph
like lunar landers and all the ship that they left
up there. Well, because yeah, that's so China. They sent
(19:28):
a lander in a rover to the far side of
the moon. Okay, so it'll do a lot of research
on the other side. But again, I don't know, we'll
see I mean, it doesn't who knows, Maybe it doesn't exist.
I don't know. I don't get it. I guess my
whole thing is to say that it didn't happen means
that they believe there's some kind of darker like malicious
intent around saying that we did get there, or there's
(19:50):
been like man or you're just treating it like the
friend who said he has a girlfriend in Canada that
you'll never meet. Yeah, well, I I understand the conspiracy
because we were in this like arms race with Ussia,
and you know, we wanted to prove that we could
get there quicker. But it seems like Russia would have
punched holes through it more effective than where's the wind
bro like Russia. If we were faking at Russia would
(20:11):
have had a much easier time disproving it, and they
have every incentive to disprove it, right, Yeah, it's kind
of like your comparison to like the friend who says
he has a girlfriend. It's like, just let him have it.
Why do we have to do this right? Maybe that's
why Russia let us pretend like we've been to the moon.
It's okay, yeah, they clearly need this so it's impossible
(20:32):
to get up there. But it's just like, what does
the moon feel? Like? What's her middle name? I like
how I like got piste off the astronauts who have
been to the Moon getting at people who like claim
they haven't. I think buzz Aldrin like just clocked a dude, Yeah,
because that guy was like constantly following him around too. Yeah.
(20:56):
And if you had been to the moon, yeah, you'd
be like you're really going to take this away from
and the stress of fucking having to fucking leave Earth
and then go to the Moon, like like I could
have died. Yeah, I think it totally fucks you up.
Like if you look at the interview that they conducted
right after they got back, they're like weirded out, Like, yeah,
(21:19):
I react the same way. And people say I wasn't
at the Coachella show with the Tupac Hologram, I'm like
I was there, and I worked hard to get there.
But I think this illustrates just zeitgeist wise, like we
are in a dangerous place where our celebrities are incredibly
influential and in a lot of cases, you know, influential
(21:40):
and spheres that they probably shouldn't be. Like Steph Curry
is just a dude who is insanely gifted and like
amazing at like finesse athletics. But like the other noteworthy
thing about him is nobody's disagreed with him since he
was a freshman in high school. So like she's got
a very uniquely bad grasp on things that should be
(22:04):
sort of everyday understanding to the rest of us. So
you can teach Steph Curry a thing or two because
you've been living in the real world for most of
your life and everyone's telling you. Turns out everyone has
their talents right exactly, And maybe don't ask him about
this stuff. All right, We're gonna take a quick break.
We'll be right back, and we're back. And two jobs
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as of this recording, as yet unfelt. We got the
Oscar host job that was briefly filled by Kevin Hartt
last week and then he bailed, And then we have
white House chief of staff, which is much more interesting
because this job is usually so easy to feel that
literally no one has ever turned it down prior to
(22:57):
this weekend. And and Mike Pence's chief of staff, Nick Ayers, who,
by the way, Amarossa is convinced as the anonymous resistance
up ed guy. But Trump is like really into him,
really really into him. That's people like anonymous sources who
(23:19):
like work in the White House are like, it's weird.
They're like, yeah, he has very Mr yars uh And well,
a lot of it, they say, has to do with
the fact that Trump is like he's been saying that
Nick Ayer's reminds him of him when he was younger.
Is there any worse reason to like someone? Right? Yeah,
but I guess he just loves me so much, like
(23:41):
a dumber, less experienced version of me. That's who I
trust the most. Yeah. Well, I mean, I don't know
if that freaked Nick Ayers out and he's like, dude,
I'm not gonna get single white female by this or whatever,
or if he really I mean, I think the wise
money is on the idea that the whole administration is
in the process of free fun, and he probably doesn't
(24:03):
want to be anywhere near that. Uh, And he's just
distancing himself from that because he's still a young man
and doesn't want to you know, self phone and knock
his career out just so early on, which I think
is fair. Yeah, and it's very reasonable of you. Yeah.
I mean, he's a weird fucking guy and has questionable ethics.
But aside from that, Yeah, I can't blame me for
(24:25):
not taking the job. I feel like right now, in
this day and age, we're just really digging for anything
that makes any sense. I'm like, at least understand this
aspect of what's going on. Yeah. That's a good point.
It's something to hold onto. Yeah. I guess the thing
that I have learned from this story, other than that
it seems like things are worse behind the scenes than
(24:48):
we might have thought, is that Nick Airs is terrifying
and we should keep an eye on him. If Trump
is like that's my guy, that's who that's who I
was when I was his age, or Nick is incredibly
intelligent and knows how to just play this man right, Yeah,
which is either way frightening because if you're willing to
be like really be a sycophant to Trump, where he's like,
(25:11):
I like this guy, like, you have to be off
your fucking rocking chair. But I guess you know. Also
when you look at what's coming down the pipe for
somebody who would be chief of staff, you have the Democrats,
the Democrats controlling the House and subpoenas coming out of
every which way. That's a lot of coordination has to
do with staff to get met people on on the
(25:31):
right messaging. You have Mueller surprises happening left and right.
And I don't think you want to be the guy
who's having like keep the Trump team in check during
all this. No, it seems like a very difficult job.
Like it's everything you hear from John Kelly is just
like this is the worst job in the world, right,
and not because it's easy and boring, because it's just NonStop.
(25:53):
He would say that after you know, Trump did something
that was impossible to predict and also impossible to contain. Yeah,
it's impossible to keep him on message. So like and
as chief of staff, like when you're dealing with like
massive headline scandal type shit, you won't be like, Okay,
this is what we're trying to say, and then he'll
immediately go out and just do some stream of consciousness bullshita.
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When you're a manager, you learn that, like one of
the worst things for people's job satisfaction is unpredictability. Like
it's good for entertainment value, but if like they don't
know what their job is going to be like day
to day and I can't count on that, it kills
you slowly. Um. I also think I am interested to
(26:37):
see how this affects the President's relationship to VP Michael Pence,
because Michael, he and I are on the opposite of
a first name basis. But there's been this sort of
background buzz of stories where people say that Trump goes
around asking people if he if they think he can
(27:01):
trust Mike Pence. So he's like already paranoid about him.
He's already jealous of his chief of staff and like
wanted his chief of staff because he probably saw how
much easier Mike's life is because he just stays the
funk out of the headlines. And so he now had
that chief staff turn him down when he asked him
to prom And I just feel like this won't do
(27:24):
good things for their relationship. Probably. Well, Yeah, Maggie Haberman
was reporting that behind the scenes of Trump was fucking
humiliated when airs like, I'm sorry, honey, no. Uh. And
that's the thing I think, as you put it in emotion,
he tries to avoid and naturally would. And the other
thing too, is even with the ouster or the resignation
or whatever or whatever you wanna call John Kelly's leaving,
(27:47):
the way it was supposed to go down was Kelly
was going to say something today on his own, and
they had agreed, and they had come together and been like, Okay,
you can, you can come through. We'll do it on
your terms. You know what. Let's make this nice to
you now. On Saturday, just off the cuff, you was like, yeah, yeah,
John Kelly is gonna be leaving. Right. You cannot tell
this guy anything, you know, and you can't just there's nothing. Yeah,
(28:07):
which is how we know that all conspiracies are bullshit
because he if he had learned that shot JFK, he
would have told us by although they probably wouldn't tell him. Also, no,
like the CIA and FBI no better than to do that. Um,
And we're still believing that there's a binder they show you. Yeah, yeah,
(28:28):
just one role of film that they hied under a
church pew yes somewhere and we learned at the end
of the rock. Yeah, exactly. So there was a big
alt right con over the weekend convention. Yes, I probably
need to clarify convention. Yeah, and it featured the likes
of Laura Loomer, Jack Soba Sobik whatever and uh it,
(28:55):
Mike Sernovitch. There's a lot all kinds of people there,
t Yeah, and uh it did not draw as well
as people were. They called it the American American Priority
Conference in d C. First of all, bad name, horrible. Yeah,
(29:15):
and it's basically like what c pack is, but to
the right of that even which is hard to imagine
what that is even like. And it's because it's a
lot of you know, Q and on ship people from
like Gateway Punded or formerly of Gateway Punded, just all
varieties of wacky all right kind of talk. Yeah, there
are a lot of bunch of goofballs there. But the
(29:36):
photos of the thing are so so sad, Like a
lot of Will Summer went to I guess a panel
that was called why you should subscribe to Beauty Pie
was a thing, uh and there were maybe nine people
like in this gigantic ballroom like for at a at
a hotel um and then even like the as like
(29:56):
the d C police said, they're like, oh yeah, a
couple doesn't like two of three dozen at most in
each room, but a lot of the journalists who are
there like that is a very generous estimation of the
count was a hundred sixty five bucks a ticket. And yeah,
like all these people, they're inconstant just like weird scandals
like Jack Poso Biak is like constantly been caught trying
(30:17):
to cheat on his wife on bumble by people, and
like Cernovich is just a weird, weird sad dude drinks
and goes like on live streams and just says nonsense,
like the brand is fucking just failing. It's just so
funny to be like evil and your problem is that,
like people don't really like you very much. It's kind
of unpopular and yeah, sorry, it's funny now it was,
(30:41):
but like that that used to be sort of what
I would have expected, but now it seems like this
is a new direction for the AULT right where they're
in somewhat of a spiral. Yeah, and like I think
they thought, well, I mean, I'm sure at the very
beginning of the administration and the like a tail end
of an election, like okay, there's there's we got an
(31:02):
audience here, and then they just they made their move
too late and realized, oh, nobody is working with us anymore.
And all the retweets I'm getting is probably from people
who are ridiculing me, right. And then Anthony Scaramucci was
there for some reason and apparently like gassed up a
bunch of Q and On believers, like at an event
called Coffee with Mooch, and apparently they're saying, uh, in
(31:26):
politically said he spoke glowingly of the theory, the Q
and On theory as a couple from Stafford, Virginia showed
their que paraphernalia. Uh. And then apparently he told these
people that He's like, you're not gonna believe who it
is to these people, yeah, and they're like, oh my god,
so you do know and he's like, yeah, you're not
gonna believe it, and then he goes away. And then
(31:47):
like these journalists and political went up from like, yo,
did you just tell them something about Q and On?
And he like kind of denied like he had said
anything about it, and then those same journalists went to
the couple he was talking to and they go, yeah,
he's talking about Q. So I mean, you know, I
don't take advantage of these people with their fantasy Q
and on. But that's so sad. But hey, you know
(32:10):
it's like Harry Potter for for baby boomers. Yeah, but
like sad, sort of lost spiritually and emotionally. Tweets and
like message board posts from Q followers when something happens
that makes it seem indisputable that the Q thing was bullshit. Yeah,
(32:30):
they're just or that Mueller is working against Trump rather
than with Trump, as they all believe. Like my I
haven't spoken my wife so stressful. I haven't spoken to
my wife in months. Please tell me this isn't like
I've lost my family over this. Like I really do
believe Q, but I need something to help me. It's like, oh,
(32:52):
just Gavin McGinnis, former vice co founder and Proud Boy leader.
Last week or a couple of weeks ago, the FBI
designated the Proud Boys as a extremist extremist group and
then took it back again like the special agent and charge.
They asked about it and they're like, well, I mean
(33:14):
it's not quite an extremist group, and it sounded I
don't know, it didn't quite wasn't convincing. I think the
FEDS are still investigating their actions, but maybe their designation
has been changed. Nothing means anything, right, it's very exciting. Well, yeah,
but now he's lost. Gavin mckinniss YouTube channels gone. He
was on like CRTV and The Blaze. When those two
(33:35):
gross networks teamed up together. They're like, oh, Gavin McGinness
will no longer have a show here. Uh. And he's been,
you know, he's been kind of just hiding in Westchester. Basically,
he's getting canceled because people recognize that his beliefs are awful.
But I don't know, if you look at the other
people who are on that network, you're like, these people
(33:55):
are just less maybe a grow Oh, like Steve and Crowder,
the guy who did the meme who's like, male privilege
doesn't exist, try and convince me otherwise, like that guy.
Children Yeah, great guy. It's more like that kind of
it's more like a sort of provocative conservative commentary. And
I guess maybe in that sense, like Gavin McGinnis, like
(34:16):
no one has quite a weird like quasi gang that
he does. But that's the line out. Okay, so, and
I mean deep platforming has worked. It seems like look
at fucking uh Milo. Yeah, Milo Unapolis is out here
begging people for money back yea, yeah, exactly, uh and
(34:38):
then denying that he's begging people for money and being
like I make forty K a month. Yeah, I didn't
have a book deal or something. Did that? Simon and
Schuster immediately vaporized. Yeah, this isn't a good look for us. Yeah,
I've stopped keeping track of Milan. He's not. He owed
Cardier like k or something like that. And jewelry, yeah
(35:01):
he had. He was in all kinds of trouble. But yeah,
that shows you know, like these people they get the
benefits of having their fuego take And people were like, whoa,
this is so crazy. I love it, And then after
a while like, so I think most people like this
is racist and xenophobic, homophobic, whatever, we need to get
the funk out of here, And then people aren't really
It's like it was all fun and games for a while, guys, Yeah,
(35:22):
but not anymore. And also in bad news for the right,
that Russian spy lady maybe flipping Maria Bettina. She I
assumed because the story basically seemed to indicate, as reported
a couple of months ago, when she was caught, that
she was a Russian operative who was trained by Russia
(35:44):
to infiltrate like the n r A and various conservative networks.
And based on that, you assume she's like more likely
to eat a cyanide pill than to like turn state's witness.
But well, it was weird because when she was in custody,
there was a lot of ports that like a lot
of Russian officials were visiting her in prison. Yeah, and
(36:04):
you're like, oh, that's not shady because she's a student,
as you say, who just got mixed up in some
weird stuff. Friends, Yeah, it's big deal. It's no big
deal up And yeah, and I think when you look
at sort of what happened with the n r A,
like them giving like thirty million dollars to the Trump campaign,
and a lot of the money they couldn't really trace
back to someone they believed was giving the money, they're like, Okay,
(36:26):
so was she the conduit to bring Russian money into
the campaign visa v. The n r A. But yeah,
the reason why everyone's like, oh, I think she's gonna
flip is because she told the judges like, I would
like to change my plea because initially she was I
am not guilty, So I don't know what you so
clearly you're maybe pleading guilty and you have some kind
of a little deal going or pleading extremely not guilty. Yeah,
(36:54):
so guilty. Yeah, but in good news for every buddy
on the right who has sticked their reputation and relationships
with their wives and children on the idea that Trump
has a plan and this is all going to come
together and Q is going to save us all. Don't
(37:15):
worry because Trump is cool as a cucumber, right, soul
as a cucumber, totally not doing weird panic tweeting in
the morning at all. Monday morning was very very very
calm tweeting about fucking he's so fucking pans. I don't
know what. It's a lot of okay, so what if
(37:37):
I did do it? Who cares? Yeah? And also I'm
the president and you're not iasically every subtext of every
tweet and the president you're not right. Well, I think
after you know, we saw all the filings that Mueller
made over the weekend. In regards to Cohen's cooperation in
Maniforts lies, the Maniford document was so censored, so we'll
(37:59):
never or quite know yet what was going on there.
But with the Cohen one, you could tell that he
definitely wasn't cooperating at first, which is why the Southern
District of New York is like, no, this guy needs
going to Jael. But it also basically shows that the
president directed two felonies to be committed, and that is like,
so he might not be technically this sort of named
(38:21):
co conspirator, but like it's getting closer and closer, and
individual one is he is so lovingly referred to in
all these documents as my new favorite thing to call him. Um. Yeah,
Like it's just getting worse and darker. And now we're
seeing like that there were at least fourteen different people
in the Trump camp that were contacted by Russia. Yeah. Yeah,
(38:41):
it seems like those two documents were filed by Mueller
last week, but it took people a while to kind
of like piece together what all the information was, and
then over the weekend people start being like, oh, this
is really bad for Yeah, this does not look good
and for the president facing league like criminal liability when
he's out of offic because like, okay, we're not going
to try and figure out, you know, can you indict
(39:03):
a sitting president or whatever? He's like, but guess what,
whenever your term is over and you're just a regular
Joe again, you could be facing some real criminal liability. Yeah,
that's what I don't like that we're adding motivation for
him to never not be president, right, yeah, yeah, let's
tell him it'll happen and given time, we don't know
(39:24):
what's tough because he's losing support within the party though, too,
because they realize how much of a hit they're taking
in terms of like their their brand, their party platform
not being really appealing to anybody except for a very
close minded like white Americans, And you know, I think
he needs that. And then even like Marco Rubio on
the Sunday Shows, he didn't quite defend Trump and be like, oh,
(39:47):
this is all bullshit, He did a half ast like, well, yeah,
we're seeing a lot of things, but let's look at
everything before we jump to conclusions, meaning like it seems
like he's still trying to weigh which way he wants
to go. But I think as we look at the
president's evolving quote unquote legal strategies over the years. He
usually goes from I never did it. I don't know
if you're talking about fake news too. Okay, I might
(40:09):
have done it. Maybe I don't know. I can't remember too.
Maybe I did it. Who cares? And then finally would
be I did it, But I'm the president, So what
the you gonna do? So we'll see where where this
goes from here? All Right, we're gonna take a quick break.
We'll be right back, and we're back. And one of
(40:35):
the weirder kind of ongoing trends that we've seen in
the zeitgeist is back in the news. Miles Yeah, ghost
fucking yeah, spectrophilia. Uh, that's not a joke. It seems
to be a thing. It seems to be a thing
that people are reporting is happening in their lives. Well,
(40:59):
first there was a woman from I think the UK
who met an Australian ghost. And then she was like,
and we joined the mile high club. Okay, you masturbated
in the airport in an airplane bathroom. Yeah, okay, thank you.
And that was a story. And then when I brought
up this morning, somebody was like, didn't we just talk
about this. I'm like, no, this is a different story.
This is about a woman in Ireland named Amanda Sparrow
(41:23):
Large who is a very very enthusiastic Captain Jack Sparrow impersonator,
and she spent a lot of money to look like
Captain Jack. She changed her middle name to be Sparrow.
And at first she was like in the news a
few years ago, because there's like woman like has is
done with regular men, is into ghosts. And the story
goes that she felt the presence of a three hundred
(41:46):
year old Haitian ghost who was killed for thievery on
the high seas. Okay, and and when I feel like
the theme here is that everyone seems to have a
lot of details about the backgrounds ghosts. And yes, I mean,
I guess it's nice they're getting to know each other before. Yeah,
(42:07):
but well, okay, well this is what she said he
looked like the Pirates of the Caribbean character, adding he
is dark skinned and has jet black hair. So he
tells me she's weird. That's weird to me. So you're
just only feeling the presence and his hot ghost breath
on you. Um, And then so then she said, cold
ghost breath. I don't know. I would. I would hope
(42:29):
that's like the one thing that the ghost can maintain,
he says steam. Yeah, thank you can maintain another thing
if you read the rest of the story. Yeah, well,
Amanda's feelings where Jack grew as they got to know
each other more, and then one day he told her
they could actually be The other thing is if you
know what I'm saying, thank you, Thank comedian. I will
be here all night. Although she never had a spiritual
(42:51):
boyfriend before, she did some research and realized she wasn't
the only one to have a relationship with the spirit.
I told him I wasn't really cool with having casual
sex with his spirit and I want at us to
make a proper commitment to each other. I want a
big traditional wedding with the white dress. It was very
important to me. But sadly this story is about how
this low affair has come to an end and she ghost.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I never that back, she said.
(43:16):
She just came out with a statement recently which brought
her name back in the news. I said, I will
explain all in due course. Uh, but for now, all
I want to say is be very her emphasis careful
when dabbling in spirituality is not something to mess with. Hey,
that's what exorcists have been saying lately. Yeah, you know,
it's it's just so funny. It's just like she's speaking
(43:37):
the same way. What if you had like a bad expert.
It sounds like she's just trying to she's just trying
to put Haitian men in a bad light on top,
but don't get involved with these Haitians because she didn't
say that that would be amazing if the conclusion, I
just I feel like, why did us someone what? What
(44:00):
does her friends and family thing? Because she has five children,
and no one was like, okay, so mom has expressed
interest in becoming Jack Sparrow. Should we address that? Should
we do something before it becomes worse? She says a
lot of it comes up, which that she h I
(44:21):
think identifies as a sexual and then well that's fine,
and then I think her but she was saying like
around her community that it was very like not supportive
of anything she did. So maybe this just kind of
maybe she I don't know how alienated she was from
her family already, she's not close with the family. They
don't say how close she is, But I don't know, Like, yeah,
(44:42):
if you're saying, like, yo, mom, what the what's good
with all this Jack Sparrow ship, I'm not saying it
has to be phrased like that. They could have a
nice they could have a nice sit down with her
and figure out what's going on deeper. I mean, clearly
she is obsessed with like this sort of fab list
version of history. She dresses up like a Disney version
(45:04):
of a job from history, So she's already, you know,
obsessed with history. And then I do wonder, you know,
as we become lonelier and our interactions with other people
become more mediated by technology, like what what's to distinguish
dating somebody who you meet online and never see from,
(45:26):
Like some dude that you're reading about and imagining is
like going back to back and forth to you. I mean,
I guess I guess we should just say, does everyone
here not believe in ghosts? Where we are? We think?
I want to take Okay, this does just all the
(45:51):
stories that we've been covering about, Like we've talked recently
about how the Catholic Church is reporting a spike in exorcism,
and The Atlantic wrote like an in depth article about it,
and it it was pretty unnerving. And now everybody's fucking ghosts.
It feels like the beginning of Ghostbusters too, when like
all these like weird things in New York City and
(46:12):
it's like there's something amiss, right, and that toaster was
acting up in the kitchen to sure, I wonder if
it is because because we have become so technologically aligned, right,
the opposite would be to embrace a fucking ghost, Like
if if you took, like at how the pendulum is
swinging more and more violently towards technology, Like ghosts feel
(46:32):
like the spirit world is like anti technology. That maybe
that's just something we're seeing across the board, is like spirits.
Some people hear it, some people fear it. Are out
here just embracing it. I don't know. Yeah, And I
mean you have more access to like a greater variety
of historical documents from that period, so you can get
like more in touch with a period in history than
(46:56):
you ever have been able to before, just because of
the Internet and having the entire history of information at
your fingertips. And then yeah, if you feel lonely or
you feel isolated by technology, maybe maybe this is a
different direction to take it. Now. The other alternative reason
that we've seen two stories like this in a row
is because somebody wrote that first story and then other
(47:21):
newsrooms saw that it got a lot of clicks, and
then they check up on that other lady. Well because right,
because there's always people with mental illnesses pitching stories to newsrooms.
That actually was one of my first jobs out of
college was at ABC responding to read or mail. And
the thing you realize quickly is like of the letters
(47:42):
to the newsroom are people who are paranoid and think
they're being like right, right, right, and they're like, oh,
I've got a scoop for you. Yeah exactly, people who
think there's no way they won't respond because this is
huge news. Yes, right exactly, Like I'm fucking a ghost
who's a Haitian pirate'll be in content back soon. I'll
speak with you then. But I could see something like this,
(48:05):
like there was this story in the in the New
York or recently. You have enough time to get through
all the New Yorkers. Yeah, I had it for a
fucking like three months, and I was like, no, too
many magazines. It caused a lot of anxiety, but when
when I do have time to read it, it's worthwhile.
And there was this article about how they're making digital
(48:26):
imprints of Holocaust survivors at this museum in the l
A area, I think where um, they basically put a
Holocaust survivor in a room with like a hundred and
sixteen cameras I think it is, and they just asked
them like thousands of questions about their experience, and it's
basically in order to recreate like that person for future
(48:50):
generations once like Holocaust survivors have passed on, and like
they're basically getting a full imprint of like every ants
or to every question that somebody might have, and you'll
just be able to like sit across from a Holocaust
survivor like once they've all passed away. So I do
wonder if there's like some technological version of this coming
(49:15):
where we can date people who have been dead for
a hundred years. Could you imagine like our great grandchildren
and they're like, I'm with a Holocaust survivor, right, digital imprint.
That's why I'm in love with yeah, because in theory,
if you've asked someone, I mean, I guess they're just
asking questions about their experience? Are they asking them questions
about like themselves and their life? Like what do you
(49:36):
think about? Because it's like in theory, if you really
like sat someone down and ask them every possible question,
then you could know them as like this hologram or whatever. Right. Yeah,
it's like, wasn't there that that article that was like
the questions you asked to fall in love or whatever.
(49:57):
It's like some version of that. But also that's crazy
that they're doing that with Holocaust survivors, so weird and heavy. Yeah,
but I guess it makes sense just for posterity, you know,
like that you have this thing that it won't be
like you know, written text can be vague sometimes or
can be interpreted a few ways, and but to have
someone like see them answer the questions or whatever happen.
(50:20):
It's crazy also that it's like, I'm sure there are
Holocaust survivors who are like, I'd rather not sit and
answer every possible question. Yeah, they're definitely. This was about
one specific woman English Loss who was a childhood friend
of Anne Frank and like had this really fascinating way
that her life inner twined with Anne Frank's and Anne
(50:41):
Frank's father actually married her mother after her father and
Ann Frank's mother passed away. Um. Yeah, I mean sometimes
I feel like we're giving people a sort of digital
imprint of ourselves as podcast hosts that released five hours
of ourselves talking on a weekly basis that like just
(51:02):
what y'all still don't know me? That's not true? You
know or not? My dad over the weekend was like, yeah, man,
I learned more about you through listening to the show
than you can tell you. Yeah, And I'm like, we'll
look up hashtag more seven hashtag you never came to
my track. I mean, if he would talk to you
that as often as you do this podcast, well, I
think it's weird because there's a lot of anecdotal stuff
(51:24):
that I bring up from my childhood or whatever that
like at the time, like why would my parents know
about like my misdeeds as Oh yeah, my mom listens
to my podcast as well, and she will correct me
and she'd be like, that's not true. She's like, I
never went to J. C. Penny. I'm like, okay, I'm sorry,
I didn't correct me. Is like, you know, your grandfather
was the first black man to shop at Fedko before
(51:45):
it became Costco. That's no, but that's a bizarre claim.
My grandfather has been saying for a long time, like
I was the first black man to shop Fedko. It
was like cool, that's awesome. Yeah. And one other story
we wanted to talk about for all you parents out there, uh,
is the question of whether it's harder for kids to
(52:06):
believe in Santa Claus. In two thousand eighteen, our writer
Jam McNabb contributed the story. He said he had been
seeing this all over the news. Yeah, this this is
the other story that's been dominating the headlines. Is he
was pointing out that a substitute teacher was removed from
a New Jersey school district after telling a group of
first graders that Santa Claus is not real. And then
(52:28):
a bishop in Illinois told kids that the good works
of St. Nicholas were gradually changed into the story of
Santa Claus, but that it was like this historical construction
and not uh and not a magical being who comes
down your chimney. And he was pointing out that this
is actually a thing. He saw those two stories last
(52:50):
year and he was like, oh, they're telling the same
thing again. But it was a different substitute teacher and
a different bishop doing it. So it's like it's a
thing that's out there, that that is happening. Sons. If
you work with kids and you have like a breakdown
one day, just like Santa's not real? Right? What can
I hate all of you? Yeah? I can't put my
hands on him right to the next thing. He just
(53:11):
you know, Santy is a fucking joke, my man. But
you are a freaking idiot. It's stupid that you ever
thought he was. You're so stupid. I'm sorry say that again.
How does Santa do it? Sorry? I thought I was
supposed to teach you that. Let's think about that, Okay,
Savannah and Mackenzie, Okay, yeah, he flies around in one
fucking have you ever really thought about it yet? And
(53:31):
then the Florida version, of course, a man stood in
the middle of the Cape Coral Festival of Lights on
Saturday and screamed that Santa Claus isn't real for like
an hour, for hours, actually multiple hours. Wait what yeah?
Tormenting children and making them cry? Sure, and that's a
First Amendment baby, yeah, exactly, So that should be put
(53:52):
in the laws with like you can't yell fire. You
also can't yell Santa, isn't I mean, I don't did
you pay? Did you grow up leaving Santa? Yeah? But
I like, um, my friends growing up were like my
neighbors who are all like a couple of years older
than me. And then so I found out pretty early. Okay, yeah,
how early? Like I can't remember how old I was,
(54:13):
but I remember my mom being like, you're too little.
I told it, but I felt bad. I didn't want
to get my friend in trouble. So I was like, oh,
I could just tell that on the presence that say
that from Santa. It's your handwriting, right, That's like it
was a Lisa, wasn't that? I was like, it was.
This is just the war on Christmas? You know what
I mean? Keep going. You get these people equivalent of
(54:33):
a suicide bomber of Christmas to go at this fair
and be like, Santa isn't real in front of these kids?
Are you serious? Sean Hannity do something I thought you
were going to say. It's because of the Internet. Yeah,
so look it up. Well, yeah, that is true. So
the additional wrinkle in the modern world his kids can
just ask Alexa like, is Santa Claus Real, and what
(54:56):
does Alexa say to that if the parents haven't Alexa
Santa Real? And I just fucked up so many people
because people always go, you're supposed to echo echo whatever. Anyways,
the regular version is Santa makes a lot of people
ho ho hopeful for a happy holiday, and I definitely
believe in that. So you you have to question, Yeah,
(55:18):
if you were a kid and Alexa gave you that response,
you'd probably just move on and not and be like, well,
I guess I have to go google it. Well. Google
is even kind of careful with their ship too, Like
when you search it, it doesn't actually give you like
a yes or no. It just gives you all sorts
of like fan art and porn of Santa just having
(55:39):
sex with like Penny from Inspector Gadget. Yeah, oh yeah,
they show you like It'll give you a link to
the Santa tracker on Google, and then underneath of of
slew of articles show up I like, yo, how to
like tell your kids because we get it. A lot
of you need this as like a disciplinary crutch to
(56:00):
be like, Yo, Santa, you want that ships and I'll
call him. Yeah, Santa is both carrot and stick we're
talking about earlier, because you have the if you're good,
but you can also if you're bad. That's that's the
genius of the Santa myth. We are not quite at
the point where we are using that because I don't
think my son is old enough to fully grasp the
(56:23):
the idea of what Christmas is gonna be. Yeah, he's
gonna be stoked what he finds that. I just remember,
you know, I wonder the people who are like really
out there being like I'm gonna tell these kids it
doesn't exist. If they're coming from a place of they
never had the magic of Santa, so they're just they're salty,
or they believe that she is so hardcore. And because
(56:44):
there was a guy who we were going to talk
about it last week or I was gonna put in
the dock last week of this dude who went on
Hannity to talk he was like a child psychologist, like
it's not necessarily the best thing to tell your kids
at Santa is real and insist that Santa is real,
or use that as a disciplinary crutch like and it
was andn't even like the most sound thing, Like it's
going to cause long term tryal just sort of looking
at it like trust in a relationship or whatever. If
(57:07):
some of these people are like they were really upset
that the Santa thing got ruined for them, and now
they just want to make sure kids don't have to
feel the same pain. There's definitely at least three Hallmark
movies and that premise alone right there. Somebody is a
professional Santa skeptic and then like like some some Christmas
(57:27):
magic enters their life and makes them a believer that
has probably already been made multiple times by Hallmark. Yeah,
I just couldn't. I got in trouble for saying Santa
didn't exist a lot. Yeah, because you were a skeptical
three year old. I think like, well, my parents, you know,
my mom's from Japan and my dad's like an artist,
and so they're not like in terms of American culture tradition,
(57:49):
they're like outliers. So I wasn't being like fed the
thing of like in Santa's real and like make your
list or whatever. All the ship I got would be
from going to school and hearing it at school. But
at home it was like, yeah, saying exists, And I
remember I've stayed up all night and I saw my parents,
you know, putting presents under the tree, and like, all right,
then I'll see you on the morning. I see how
(58:10):
it is the fact that they let you stay up.
They had no no I was sneaking. I was on
some like pretend I'm asleep ship and then go out
and be like what's going on. It's not like a
weird pressure that we put on parents where it's like
if you accidentally let your kids see you putting the
Christmas presents, now you've ruined their childhood. You're a bad parent. Well,
(58:32):
it's almost like the anti vaxer thing if you tell
your kids, because they're going to tell everybody that they
know that it's a lie. So like you're almost keeping
it up for other parents who want you to keep
it up. But it turns into this like enforced morality
that seems kind of silly when you sit back and
you're like, okay, wait, so I have to tell my
kids this magical being enters our home, but now I'm
(58:55):
bad if I don't do that. You have a tradition
suicide bomber and form of your child who goes into
school and spreads the word not Santa. Right, so you
kind of have to be careful because you're making the
decision for your kid, but also everybody else's kids. Dad,
I mean, the truth is the truth. I'd be like, oh,
so Santa's real. Yeah so online to my kid. Yeah,
(59:15):
I mean I remember problem mark. I was really mad
and dispirited when I found out for like an afternoon,
and then I was like I get it because my
little sister still believed, and I was like, oh, this
is fun to like I felt like in school to
like around third grade or something, they were kids who
cried about hearing like that was a thing. I feel
like I remember being like they just found out Santa
(59:36):
wasn't real. Yeah, sad, Yeah, like what I feel like
I remember in meaning like almost nothing to me. I
was just like, okay, I guess that makes sense. Yeah right,
I'm good. I also used to every time I'll go
see Santa like Kmart or whatever, I would sob oh.
Yeah I hated it. So I was like, good, I
don't have to go to Santa anymore because I get scared.
(59:57):
They're scary. There's some pretty handy tips in the Guardian
that are like how to like mentally jiu jitsu your
kids about Santa. Like one woman was like, tell your
kids when they get old enough that now they are Santa.
What they are the one who can now spread gratitude
and joy after you tell them Santa doesn't exist, right, No,
that you know that their whole thing is about like
(01:00:18):
just sort of constantly tailoring it so you never say
that it doesn't exist. That you kind of move along
with their intelligence that eventually they'll realize it doesn't exist.
But you're not always been like, Santa is real, he's
this magical dude or whatever. Just be like and you
see other people dressed like him, because many of us
can be Santa. Santa is a spirit that you want
to that you want to have sex. Right, Santa is
(01:00:41):
a sexually transmitted disease that because you sat on his lap,
your dirty now and you are Santa? Is that the
premise of the Tim Allen Yeah, well, Page, it has
been a pleasure having you. It's been wonderful to be here.
Where can people find you? Um, I'm on the internet.
Page Alden on Twitter, Instagram. You can also listen to
(01:01:03):
my podcast mall Talk Talk at maltalk pod on also
Twitter and Instagram, and uh tell us about the mall
Talk Oh. I hosted with my friend another comedian, Emily Faye.
We have a guest on. We talked about them all.
We talked about a specific store, their mall, growing up,
stuff like that, play games. Could I come on? Yeah,
because I used to work at the mall where Fashion Square?
(01:01:26):
At what store? The Coach store. Yeah, we're gonna have
to we have to talk about that. And I ate
so many wetsels pretzels, every motherfucking are you Wetzels or
an Auntie Ann's. Well they had they only had Wetzels there,
Auntie Auntie Ann's, as I say, Auntie very fancy that
that was. That was the first foray into pretzel addiction.
(01:01:47):
And then I think Wetzels just became a little more
It's a little more accessible. Yeah, and they went a
little more outside the box. They were like, what else
can we do with this? Though, Let's put some more
stuff on there to wrap a hot dog in it, Pepperoni.
I think Antis does some of that it. Yeah, it
doesn't really, Yes, And they don't have like drinks that
are so sweet they melt your teeth. It's bad. This
(01:02:10):
is this is matalk. Yeah, are oh? I like this
one from the Moonpie Twitter account where they screenshot at
d M that says the moonpie should contain more fiber.
I am oh in my opinion, and they tweeted okay
baby because the picture is a picture of a baby.
(01:02:36):
I really like that. Yeah, Yes, I like memes is
what I'm I mean. They're funny. That's why they're popular.
Miles where can people find you? Follow me and Instagram
and Twitter at miles of gray tweets I like. One
is from past guest LORI kill Martin. It says Britain
(01:02:59):
admit you fucked up and begged the EU to take
you back. And another one is from Jake at Jake
g R n R. It just says it's a quote tweet. First,
it's offset going fuck y'all, I miss Cardi and his
quote is sir, this is a McDonald's uh tweet. I've
(01:03:20):
been enjoying. Uh. James Felton tweeted a picture of the
headline from the mail that says may back me or
get Corbin and no Brexit, and he tweeted rarely seeing
quote eat your vegetables or we're buying a puppy and
going to Disneyland. Parenting tactic here um and steely. Dan
(01:03:41):
Fogelberg tweeted comedians bitching about PC culture is the new
walking impression it is. You can find me on Twitter
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we link off to the information that we talked about
this day's episode, as well as the song we ride
out on miles Uh. This is another one from that
Japanese band Fishman's that I was really digging. I kept
listening to their music and I liked it more and more.
This song is called baby Blue and they've got a
little reggae vibe to it. And shout out to the
(01:04:24):
zigang dude who made that Ross putin mean because you
did it. You've done good because it looked great. But yes,
this is called baby Blue by Fishman's. All right, we're
gonna ride out on that. We will be back tomorrow
because it is the Daily Podcast, and we'll talk to you.
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