10 Least Likely and Weird Race Cars of All Time

Race cars often take on some outlandish designs and rule-bending technology in their never-ending quest to go fast. Meet some of the more notable characters in the ragtag gang of unlikely speed demons. 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Fast Track, a production of I Heart
Radios How Stuff Works. Hi, and welcome to the fast Track.
I'm your host, Scott Benjamin, and I'm joined by Kurt Karen,
producer of the show as well. Right, Kurt's doing double

(00:21):
duty again and hopefully for the long term, You're gonna
be doing double duty, because I think this is starting
to work out. Yeah, we're getting we're getting kind of
in our rhythm here and uh having some fun with it.
So today I think we've got a topic that both
of us can we'll probably have a lot to talk about.
I think, uh, there's there's ten really unusual, unlikely, weird, strange,

(00:43):
whatever you want to call them. Race cars. There's been
a list compiled by a place called driving line dot
com and they had an unusual one from others that
I've seen, which I thought was intriguing. So I chose
that one to kind of follow along with. And then
I think we're gonna add our own notes because there's
not a whole lot of material on each page. You know,
it's kind of like one of those it's like a
slideshow almost really when you look at it online and

(01:06):
they go through and give you a little bit of
information about it, just enough to kind of pique your interest.
And that's exactly what they do with me. So you know,
I dug into each one of these a little bit
deeper and know a little bit more about a couple
of many way. So I thought that it was worthwhile
bringing this list to the show today because they are unique,
and there are strange and wonderful and unusual, and you
know all of the uh, you know, all the ways

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you can describe race car that probably shouldn't be out
there on the race course. And that's maybe the best
way to put it, right. I mean, what do you
just real quick when you saw this list that I
sent over to you, anything really strike you as on
like extraordinarily unusually You don't have to be specific. We'll
talk about it when we get there, but is there
anything that really stood out for you on this list? Yeah?
Let mean, the look of a lot of the cars

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is unique. When I looked at and I tried to
take each one and look at the era in which
it raced, and things began to make a lot more
sense when you look at the cars and the landscape
of racing at the time that I don't want to
jump too far ahead. But there are some that actually
make perfect sense. When you look at all it's a
little funny, little weird, But then when you um dive
a little bit deeper, it definitely fits could have been

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ahead of its time in some ways. Right. But other cars,
when you look at your like, I can't imagine at
that time seeing that car on the racetrack. It would
be so unusual that it would be the one that
would get all the attention, even if nothing really spectacular
happened with it. Just the fact that it's on the
track at at any point you know, in that era,
in that in that decade, or you know, whatever it

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happens to be or in that series. Um, it makes
it fascinating and unique in some ways. I do want
to tell you that going through here, I came up
with a couple of topics for shows in the future.
Have you ever heard of anything called road kill Knights? Okay,
road kill Knights is something that's relatively new. I think
that this year might have been the second, possibly the
third year of it. I'll have to dig into it again.

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It's something that happens in Pontiac, Michigan, in coordination with
the Woodward Dream Cruise. It is a legal drag race
that's held on the actual city streets. You know, they
block off the streets. They you know, have the grandstands
set up and everything, and it allows people to bring
out whatever they've got. I think there's like a couple
of categories. There's I don't know if it's like small
tire or I don't remember the two. There's like two

(03:15):
classes and that's it. It's like small tire and big tire,
or is wide tire and thin tire or something like that.
I'm gonna dig into this. But some incredible street racing
going on. One of the cars. On one of these
cars that I saw racing, I think it was a
fifty five Chevy I believe three thousand, two hundred horsepower. Unbelievable.
And again I'll dig into road kill knights and I'll

(03:35):
get all the facts right for anybody who's you know,
screaming and shaking their fist at the at the you
know the device right now, saying what an idiot. It's not,
you know, thin tire, fat tire. But we'll get it.
We'll get into that when we do the episode. The
next thing that I want to mention is that this
is held right near a place called the m one Concourse.
Now m one, I believe is what word avenue, I think,
and or the Telegram I think it's. I think that's

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what word avenue. The m one Concourse is like a
man ugen, like a country club, but for car owners.
And it's got a racetrack, a race circuit. It's got
garages that you can rent, you know, like some of
them are luxury, some of them are not. They have
all different sizes. You know. You can just go in
there and you can pull your car in there and
work on it, store it, do whatever you want. It's
the thing that you pay a membership for and and

(04:17):
you belong to this club. And like for instance, today
as we're recording this, and almost every day between four
pm and six pm, they have an open track session
where you can go out and drive your race car
or your you know, your track track day car or
whatever you have, or even your street car. I suppose
you can go and watch this. There's a performance school there.
It's kind of like when I went to that Porsche
Driving Experience thing. It's like that, only you pay for

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a membership and you belong to this thing. For I
don't know if it's a year or six months or whatever,
but it's an interesting idea, and I know it's one
that's kind of spread across the nation. I know that
we've had other clubs like this where people usually it's
usually not always all the time, but usually it's people
with a lot of money that want to bring a
car that's not streetly eagle and be able to enjoy

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it and they're able to park their car in their
grudge that you know, it's a bigger than my house,
a square foot grudge that has a luxury loft and
everything along with it, and park one of their five
six seven cars below and then just use them at
will or you know, for these special events that they have.
So it's a it's a really cool idea. I think,
be towing your race car to the track every time

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you want to drive it in park right there. And
if you're not into golf, if you're not, you know,
you don't want to swim, and you don't want tennis
and all that. You just want to belong to a club.
You want to be able to use your vehicle that
you can't use on normal city streets outside of the
scarce weekend that you're able to get to a an
event like let's say you're an sec A member or something,
and you can have to tow it to the event,
and you know you have to bother with the trailer

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every time, and all that makes a lot of sense.
You can set the car up the way you want
it to be when you get it to the track,
not to drive it there. You don't have your race
tires on it and everything perfect, right out of the
garage onto the track and go. You're right, You're just
just warm it up and go right. I mean, maybe
a little bit of maintenance just and probably a lot
of I would guess there's a lot of social activity
around this as well. I would think that, you know,

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this is a tight knit group of people, if I
had to guess, just because you know, you kind of
get kind of chummy with the people that are there,
you know. Plus, I mean, we're else You're gonna see
some of these cars, you know, and to see them
in action, which I think is really cool. I mean
outside of you know a dealership parking lot or you know,
on the dealership floor or maybe in a museum or
even at a car show, you're not gonna get to
really see them in action. And I think that you know,

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something like this, the same one concourse, and I know
there's a famous one in New York somewhere that I'll
have to look up, but I know there are others
all around the U. S. So this is kind of
an interesting thing, and I think that we need to
kind of jump on top of it and talk about
it if we can sometime soon. Anyway, Okay, last little
bit of information before we really dig into this list.
And I hope this, uh, I hope this is of

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interest to you guys, because we have been talking about
top speed in vehicles for a long time, you know,
since we started the show, and we've done several different
measures of that speed. We've done you know, the Texas Smile,
where we talk about how fast a car can go
in one mile distance. Not necessarily a certain speed is
certain within a certain marked mile. It's it's one mile,
that's it. I mean, I don't know how better to

(07:07):
describe that than that. I mean, the Texas Mile episode.
If you haven't heard it, please listen to it because
it's it's a unique test um. Then there's you know,
the outright speed records we've talked about We've talked about
the fastest cars for a certain dollar amount and that
kind of thing, some other tests zero to six zero
and how those are done. Yeah, exactly. Well, just this
week in Sweden, the week we're recording this, I should say,

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on September twenty three, a new record was broken and
it was broken by the Kona seg Regera, which is
different because formerly they have used the egg Era was
spelled with an A at the beginning and to the
R at the beginning, So this is the Regera. The
Regia has set a brand new record and the record
is one point a seconds faster than the last time.

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So they're breaking, sometimes breaking their own record, and I
think that's what they're doing at this point. But the
new record for get this zero to two hundred and
forty nine miles per hour and then back to zero
is thirty one point four nine seconds, which I think
is pretty good, pretty solid time. I mean, that's really fast,
that's really moving and breaking, that's really breaking. So that's

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a quick speed. I know that it takes a lot
to do something like that, but I mean to run
up to two and fifty miles an hour and then
back down to zero to I think the well, I
think that they actually did break two fifty during one
run just to say they did it, but it took
thirty two point four eight seconds, so a little bit longer.
But the reason is because of course silver in Sweden,
they use the metric system and so what they were

(08:31):
shooting for was four kilometers per hour. So this the
actual record is zero to four hundred kilometers per hour
to zero, so you have to kind of take that
into a chemics well yeah, yeah. So anyways, the Kona
seg Regera is the brand new holder of that record,
and I mean brand new, so uh, look to look
to see that broken probably in the in the very

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near future, because I think they're always continually breaking these
these records. I mean it just one after the other.
And we've seen that, and within the time frame of
when we started this program, we've seen you know, just
it seems like everybody just had to outdo each other
by just a fraction of a second or you know,
whatever it is, and it's always going to be that way.
There's always that Competition's almost like there's a schedule that

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we don't know about where they say we're going to
break the record on this day, if you can come
out and get pressed next week, and then next month
will be another cars month, you know. I think that's
what it's all about, right. I think a lot of
this is just about press, is about getting your name
and keeping your name out in front of the public
for a while. Um, how much of this do you think?

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I just just kind of off the cuff discussion here,
but I mean, how do how much do you of
this do you think? Is um sand begging? How much
do you think that like they could have got Do
you think they could have gone faster? Or do you
think that they're they're holding back in order to wait
until someone breaks this record and then do it again. Yeah,
they may be doing some of that. A lot of times.
They have the technology to go faster, even if it's

(09:56):
not tested yet. They know when they're going to test it,
and then they when they're going to be their own
record or someone else's record, who whatever it is at
the time. Sure, but it's it's counter It's it's a
little counterintuitive to the rest of us, isn't it though,
to think like, why would they hold back? Why wouldn't
they just if they can? And I'm not saying that
that Kona se is doing this. I want to make
that clear. But why why would let's say that, let's

(10:18):
say that they were. Why do you think that Kona
sag would ever hold back? I mean, the rest of
us would think, like, I'm just gonna go as fast
I can. If I break this record by twenty five
miles per hour, great for me, you know, and let
somebody else try to beat me by one mile per
hour or miles per hour faster than that. I wonder
if it's just like we're getting to that point where
it's such fine, so fine tuned these references. Now see okay,

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you know, here's here's one, and I have a very
loose example of this, but I don't know even how
to put this or the numbers exactly. But think about
like like championship sprinters, you know, doing the hundred meter
dash or you know, whatever the races. Think about when um,
let's say, guys, the same bolt, he came in and
just show added records, I mean, just blew them away.

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But up until that point, everybody was breaking records by
just a little tiny I mean, just incremental points, and
then he just came in and just blew it away,
and I think that there's always gonna be someone that
comes in and does that. I think there's someone that
comes in and just destroys any kind of preconceived notion
that you have about speed or about time, or about whatever.
I mean, I think that someone will just I think

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someone's going to obliterate this record in the next decade,
maybe someone with some proprietary technology or something like that. Maybe,
and maybe it might take ten years for someone to
come along that does that, and you know of these
little tiny incremental speed increases, but then someone I think,
you know, comes in ten years later and just destroys it.
You know, it's something that you know they've been working
on for ten years, you know, trying to get to

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that point. Costs could come into play too. They might
not want to take their car out to attempt to
record until they have a pretty good idea that they're
going to succeed. I think, like if every mark is hit,
they know exactly what time they're going to get. Maybe
they just don't want to go through the whole It's
not like they take the car to the track. I
can say, let's try to do this. I think they
have already done the testing to know what they're going

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to do. They just take it to the track to
measure it. They just don't want to take their four
million dollar baby out there. Yeah, so maybe they don't
want to take Yeah, they don't want to take the
technology that's a year or two down the road out there.
You're saying, keep it a little close to the vest, definitely. Yeah.
Well they already make the cars look all kinds of
weird ways when they take them out there in a
certain way and toptical illusion the camera. Yeah, yeah, I

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know what you mean. The camouflage cars. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
we see a lot of that, and uh well we
saw a lot of that in Detroit, and there still
is a lot of that's happening around there. And it's
not all that unusual to see a car that has
either you know, the whole body painted that way or
decalt that way or whatever it is now probably wrap.
But it's a strange auto environment, it really is. And
you see you see some interesting things, but you also

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see some things that really make you think that why
did he do that for you? You know, what's that
all about. Let's get into some of these least likely
and weird and unusual race cars in just a moment
right after the break, and we're back and you're listening
to the fast Track, and I'm well, I'm one of

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your hosts, Scott Benjamin, and I'm Kurt Garin. Kurt, you're
right on top of things to right in there. Yeah,
I'm impressed, very good. Alright, So I think we've already
kind of introd this. You know, there's these unusual cars
out there, right, I mean, as the author of this
article says, is his name is Benjamin Hunting. He's a
writer from a site called driving line dot com. And
that's the list that we're gonna follow. As as Benjamin says,

(13:31):
you know, racing gets weird sometimes, it really does get
unusual and strange. And um, we all know this. We
all know that racers in a particular series, whatever series
it may be, are all about bending the rules. And
especially we've seen this, especially in NASCAR, right, We've seen
it so many times in nascars, so many different colorful
characters and people that you are just right in your

(13:51):
face about it too, you know, like I like, if
it's not specifically exactly in the rule book like that,
I'm going to do it. And then you know, the
next race has changed, you know, the rules in the
rule book, and now you can't do that, so they
have to change their tactic and and it's kind of this, uh,
this cat and mouse back and forth, you know, play
the game type thing that they do. And as fans,
we love to watch this, right, we love to We

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love to see the you know, the characters that are
that are like A Smokey Eunuch or M. Carol Shelby
or any of those guys. You know that we're really
just exciting to watch a J. Foyd whoever it happens
to be. You know, it's just you know, it creates characters,
you know, larger than life characters at the racetrack. One
of the things that that results from this is unusual
car design or car technology or just um tactics or

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you know, whatever it happens to be. But these happen
to be the whole deal, like the complete package. These
are unusual cars. Some of them do have just unusual technology,
but along with that, form has to follow the function, right,
So this makes the vehicle look weird because they're trying
this new technology. It makes it look unusual on the track,
and that's what makes it stand out. And sometimes these
are the cars to get all the attention, whether or

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not they're on the pole position or win the race,
or or don't even place at all. If they make
one lap, everybody's kind of you know, owing an ony
over that one car, or you know, laughing at it.
Maybe they're laughing at it. That's the other thing. A
modern example of some of these types of cars would
be the delta wing the sports car. I think they're
racing it anymore, very unusual. So that kind of gives
you an idea. If you're familiar with a delta wing, yeah,

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we're about to dive into. Yeah, if you're not, take
a look online. That is a really strange design. But
that's exactly what we're talking about. And as Benjamin says here,
you know that defy convention. In a lot of cases,
the boundaries a good taste, and I agree sometimes that's
the case. But you know, they all have something likable
about them as well. You know, there's something about rooting
for the underdog or something about you know, cheering for

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the guy that is trying something new and why not,
And they do so behind the wheel of misfits. And
that's the way it is with our number one car
on the list here, Kurt, it is the Cadillac La Monstra.
And I believe this is a French car, right, Okay,
so French car. It's in nineteen forty nine car which
is competing in nineteen fifty. And I'll describe what's going
on here, but you really need to take a look

(15:58):
at this car online. You need to have an image
of what we're talking about here, because there is some
unusual body work going on, right. Definitely, it's a very
unusual looking card to me, you know what it looks
like to me. And I I'm not a huge Star
Wars fan, believe or not. I mean, I kind of
grew up in that era and I think that was
the first movie I ever saw like out, you know,
with my parents, like at a theater. Uh, Star Wars.
But doesn't it look a lot like the Is it

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the land Speeder or is that the is that the
the Cadillac Series sixty one that this is built from
or based on this ninety nine not the not the
street car, but this car, this, this La Monstra, looks
an awful lot like the land Speeder, and it looks
like it's almost hovering above the ground. You can't really
see the wheels underneath. It's such an unusual design. It's

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very very strange, very cool. Now, but imagine seeing this
in nineteen fifty on the racetrack in Lama, because that's
where it raced. Briggs Cunningham was the one who took
this car. And again underneath it's a nine Cadillacs Series
sixty one. There's a couple of cars that he actually brought.
He brought a factory spect manually equipped Series sixty one
coupe and the other one was this one that they

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had designed in the wind Tunnel, and this is the
La Monstra, which means, of course the monster for good reason.
I mean, when you see that, guess um. But this
car had a three thirty one cubic n B eight
that had five carburetors, and it says it ran an
eventful race, burying itself in the sand bank at one
point and requiring Cunningham to leave the driver's seat and

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dig it out. And then despite all of that, he
finished eleventh in the race. Now isn't that unusual? I mean,
and now think about getting out of the car, having
to dig it out of a sand bank, get it
back on the course, came back in racing again, you know,
for the remainder of the twenty four hours whatever whatever
it is, and still finishing eleven and eleventh place. That's impressive.
It is impressive. Impressive that the car survived that kind

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of a lick. Yeah, I think it's a decent finish,
I guess for our vehicle, you know, that did something
like that. Usually, you know, we've heard of these unusual
cases where the driver will be in a race and
they'll you know, they call it spin and winds. They've
had a spin out, they didn't hit a wall or
anything like that, and yet they win the race somehow.
It's very unusual it happens, but it's very unusual. But
this is not quite the same. I mean, finished eleventh place,

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but that's a long race and digging out of the
sand that's something that you don't see anybody, do, you know,
and still win the race by any means. Doesn't like
it would take much to get this thing stuck in
the sand. Then yeah, no exactly. And I do have
a little bit of an update on this one, but
as of seventeen and I have a feeling needs of moved.
But as of seventeen or at least in twenty seventeen.
UH the car was on display at a place called

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the REVS Institute in Naples, Florida, along with a collection
of other Cadillac race cars from the two thousand seventeen
wins at both the Rolex twenty four in Daytona and
the Twelve Hours of Seabring and UM with the title
wins that they won for those seasons as well. So
this is a group was within a group of of
other Cadillac race cars from the modern era, which I
would have loved to have seen this in Naples, Florida.

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That's not too far off a drive from us here
in Atlanta. The second corner list Kurt is the Chaparral
to J and this one is from around nineteen seventy.
And I do want to tell you that we have
already done the full Chaparral story on car stuff a
long time ago. We did this back in two thousand
and eleven. So if you want to get some info
on that and about you know that whole thing, and
a lot about the kN M series and you know

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the the cars that competed in that, you can, you know,
check that out if you want to. So The idea
behind the chaparal To j was that they were going
to use something called active arrow. Active arrow had a
different meaning back then, um a little bit of a
different meaning back then than it does now. Now. What
we typically see our movable wings that are just at
speed and kind of change the airflow over the vehicle

(19:34):
in order to produce more downforce. It you know, when
it's necessary and where it's necessary. This one, however, was
able to generate. This is the crazy thing. Able to
generate something like like, was it one point five gs
of down force regardless of whatever speed it was traveling.
So the car, imagine you have to imagine this. So
let's say that the car is sitting still on a

(19:55):
scale and it weighs let's say a thousand pounds, just
an easy round number to deal with. We flip on
this giant fan that's in the back of the car
that's run by a two stroke motor, and what it
does is it sucks all the air out from underneath
the car and pulls it down to the road surface. Right,
it's driving it straight down, not any direction to straight down.
The engine is doing nothing but pointing, and the fan

(20:17):
is pointing the air up pulling it down vacuum exactly right.
So you flip the switch and this thing starts up,
and the vacuum starts up, and suddenly the scale will
read or it will appear in the car that the
car ways pounds. And that's a that's a crude way
to put that, And I don't even know if that's
true or not. But what I'm saying is it will
pull down with the amount of force equal to one

(20:40):
point five its own weight, like one and a half
times its own weight, as it travels down the track. Now,
I mean again, it could be sitting still and do
the same thing. That's why I use that example. But um,
that's probably a terrible way to put that. I hope
an engineer doesn't call in and say, that's that's completely wrong.
You've you've just screwed everything up. I'm backpedaling a little
bit because I'm terrible at this type of thing. But
but that's my understanding of it anyway, is that the

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car effectively as it travels down. That's the goal, right,
is to to make it heavier. Likes as you go faster,
it pushes down on the tires more than it does
when it's sitting still, and this car, no matter what
speed you're going, it's pushing down on the tires with
like one and a half times its own weight, which
is crazy to think about, I mean, and so imagine
the advantage of that the driver has when they're driving

(21:23):
this car through a corner. I mean, it's almost as
if you could take away. Not not that you can
completely take away, but you could almost imagine a driver
with less skill being able to corner harder than a
driver with a lot of skill, because the faster you go,
the more this thing creates down for it. I mean,
it's it's it's a ridiculous amount of down force in
this car. There's another kind of related car that I

(21:44):
want to talk about in there's the Brabham bt B,
which is called the Fan car, and it was designed
by a guy named Gordon Murray. It would use kind
of like a similar down force principle. This one was
powered by the car's engine itself, so the faster the
car went, the more down force of a Career eight.
So um again, this one even even more than the
other one. I would guess that suction effect, you know

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around the corners was just unreal. I mean, you're able
to corner inside outside, you know, right down the you know,
the perfect line wherever you want to. Everybody else would
have problems. You wouldn't have any problems at all. So
one thing interesting I thought was the lead driver for
the car during that era for Brabham was was Nikki Lauda.
He was the Austrian driver at the time. And of
course there was also another Brazilian driver, you know, another

(22:27):
code driver and it was Nelson Pk so they both
got some time behind the wheel. A couple of big
names in F one and uh and worth mentioning anyway, Um,
number three in the list, this is one that I
bet a lot of people do kind of laugh at.
But this is the lot of Granta. I hope I'm
saying that right, the Lot of Granta. Now, I know
I'm getting a lot of part right, but I hope
the Granta is right or East Granta. It's granted, I

(22:48):
don't know. The Lata is not necessarily the best car.
It's a Russian brand of car. And um, you know
they make a lot of street cars in Europe, they
make a ton of them. Actually they make gosh, I
want to say it's it's in the millions. I mean,
they've been making them since two thousand eleven. I think
they're still making them. But it's built in in Russia,
in the Ukraine, Egypt, and even in Kazakhstan is where
this thing is built. Of course they're going to take

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one of their their cars to compete in the World
Touring Car Championship Cork. Why not? Why wouldn't they, right?
But they chose the lot of granted, which is an
unusual choice. It first competed in two thousand twelve, and
it has a different engines as a turbocharge four cylinder engine,
and it has three eighty horse power. That is not
a lot of granted that you're gonna get. If you
buy it out of the dealership, you're gonna get a

(23:30):
one point six leader eight valve in line four engine
or possibly if you if you want, if you upgrade it,
you can get a sixteen valve in line four as well. Now,
one thing I do need to mention this, I think
we probably should talk about this just for a second,
is that the World Touring Car Championship actually folded in
two thousand and seventeen, So it's no it no longer exists.
It started in seven, so this was around for thirty years.

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It's kind of a big deal along the lines of this, well,
I'm thinking about it. Have you ever heard of something
called the North American Touring Car Championship? You have? Really,
I was very close to this one. I was working
for Diamler Chrysler at the time, and uh, I was
closely closely involved with this new Some of the drivers,
got to get to some of the tracks, got to
you know, some press access, that kind of thing. It

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was really I'll tell you, I'm I'm excited about talking
about that one. And I kind of put that into
the back of my head for a long time, and
so maybe maybe we should talk about that seriously at
some point. But but I think that you know what
goes along with that is the World Touring Car Championship,
and um, let's definitely get into those two as well. Sure,
al right, it's number four on the list, is uh

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the Citron I D nineteen and Okay, before we start
even talking about where this one appeared, because this one
has some history. Um, we did do a couple of
car stuff episodes on this one too. If you want
the entire Citron story, Part one and Part two, Uh,
it's it was done in New November two thousand fourteen.
It's got an extensive history on you know, the whole thing.

(24:56):
But this is the maybe one of the craziest ones
on the list, from what do you think? Do you agree? Um,
there's some a little nuance that makes it not as
crazy to meet in my opinion? All right, yeah to me.
To me, this is one of the more fascinated ones
just because of how this would be even possible today.
And I don't think this it wouldn't be possible obviously.
The Citron I D nineteen if you don't know what

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that is, that is a it's part of the D
series of cars. Um. The I D meant that simply
that it had a manual transmission in the cloth interior,
and the D S had leather seats and uh, something
called a citro matic transmission. So it's an automatic, but
it had a shift lever but no clutch. So the
D I'm sorry, The I D and the D S
are kind of along the same appearance but different. Um,

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you know, trim packages and things like that and options.
In between nineteen fifty and nineteen seventy five, well, they
built one point four million of these cars, so a
lot of them were out there. However, early on in
the run of these cars again they started the nineteen
fifty five. In nineteen fifty eight in Riverside, California, an
I D nineteen are actually a pair of I D

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nineteens ran in a NASCAR race. Do you find that
hard to believe? Somewhat a NASCAR race it was. It
was a road course. That's the thing that makes a
little bit easier to believe. His NASCAR was a bit
different back then. It was a lot different back then apparently.
I mean, if you if you know what a Citron
I D nineteen looks like, you know from nineteen fifty eight,

(26:22):
take a look at one online. If you don't, and
imagine that running in NASCAR, that's really hard to believe.
On a road course, on a oval, whatever. But this
was the old Riverside track and it ran in nineteen
fifty eight. Is part of the Crown America five hundred.
Get this. They both finished with inside inside the top twenty.
They finished eighteenth and nineteenth overall, but that means that

(26:42):
in their class they were first in second place. So
a Citron has won a NASCAR race with a seventy
horsepower engine. That's it. Now, look at what they're running today,
and you know, like the horsepower and you know the
appearance of them and that you know the how closely
closely they're matched, how they had they this you know,
they look essentially the same, essentially. I mean, I know

(27:03):
there's variation between manufacturers, but um, it's such just such
an unusual thing. I hadn't put this together, but the
author did. They used it kind of as a punch
line in the um was it Talladagan ancess the one
the legend of Rickey Bobby? Right? Yeah, they used it
as a as kind of a punch line because the
challenger is the French guy, right, he's the Perier driver,

(27:26):
Sasha Baron Cohen. Is that who it was? Yeah, think
it's very funny. So it's kind of a funny thing.
But yeah, I hadn't put that together, those two things
together until this point, but I think it's really funny. Also. Um,
we're gonna go into number five here in just a minute,
but I want to make sure that you do something
for me in the future. I want you to hold
me to this. Um. I find that I'm not as

(27:47):
drawn to NASCAR stuff as I as I probably should be.
I just haven't had as much of an interest in
it as I have in Open Wheel and that type
of thing. So I want to make sure that we
equally cover all these different series. And I'd like to
cover NASCAR because I think there's a lot there. There's
a lot of stories there. Of course, there's a lot
of technology that I don't want to ignore. Um, it's
just not my favorite series right now. I mean, I'm

(28:07):
I'm growing to love it over the years. I'm growing
to I should say, growing to like it. I still
don't love it yet, but maybe i'll can. I could
be convinced along the way. I used to call it
nas crap. I'll admit to that. I still do with
my dad just to be fun because he likes he
likes Nascar, And I know it's just a little you know,
father's son ribbing that goes on, you know, just a joke,
you know. But so yeah, we will talk about some
some NASCAR stuff in upcoming shows. I promise that you

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know the series, the drivers, some of the oddities. There's
plenty of those oddities out there. And alright, number five
here on the list is uh, oh boy, this is
an unusual one, but I bet it's one that most
people can picture in their mind. At least most of
our listeners can picture in their mind. I would think
this is the Volvo eight fifty wagon that was in
the British Touring Car Championship. It was some one to

(28:50):
me as as iconic. Oh I I completely agree, And
how it came about is really really unusual. There's a long,
long story that I'm not going to bore you with,
but it raised in the season of the British Touring
Car Championship. And again there's a fascinating story behind why
it raced in there and I can I can give
you just the highlights right now. Um. But again I
bet that most of our our listeners can picture this

(29:12):
in their in their mind and just just close your
eyes and if you're not driving, close your eyes, imagine
what this car looks like. And typically you'll think of
this car going around a corner on two wheels. And
that's what the photographers just loved about this car is
that it was always on two wheels, but it had
some other advantages, or maybe it wasn't advantages, it was
just it didn't have the disadvantages that you would think

(29:33):
that it would have. This was a car that that
actually performed just as well as the eight fifties Sedan did,
and they didn't really know that until there was a
shortage at the factory. So here's here's how all this
goes down. So Volvo hadn't raised since about nineteen eighties six,
when it was in something called the European Touring Car
Cup which was called the e t c C and

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that went defunct. And then in the early nineteen nineties,
Volvo senior vice president decided that it was time to
return to race and to pep up the brand that
was at this point better known for safety. You know,
they had all these safety nations. They still do. I
mean there there's still a brand known for safety, which
is not a bad thing, that's a really good thing.
But they wanted to kind of, you know, I don't know,

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spices up a little bit, right, I mean, it's time
to you know, get back on the racetrack and show
what we can do as well. And so a Swedish
performance company was chosen. It was it was called Stephenson
Automotive or Stephenson Automotive, helping up pronouncing that totally wrong.
But U S A M is how they do the
acronym for that. The story is they went to the
factory to pick up the cars they were supposed to

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pick up, and there's a shortage of the eight fifties
Sedan bodies at the time they were supposed to go
to customers or you know, they were. They just simply
didn't have them. They weren't building them fast enough to
be able to provide them the racing effort, and the
only bodies that were available were the wagons. And they decided,
let's take the wagons. Let's just do it. We've got
a you know, assignment we have, we have a short

(30:54):
amount of time to build these race cars. We're gonna
take these wagons. We're gonna do it. You know, it's
gonna be unusual. One two best ideas of so they
find out that, as it turns out, there's no disadvantage
to running the wagon versus the Sudan aerodynamically. It's really
a cool looking vehicle. If you're a wagon fan, you
fall in love with this immediately. I did. I'm a

(31:14):
huge wagon fan anyway. Sad that there are you don't
find wagons anymore. It's hard to there's a few. There's
a few out there, and I've been seeing them in
commercials recently. This this vehicle, this this particular vehicle was
probably photographed more than any other car in the series
during that season, which was just a boon for for Volvo. Yeah,

(31:34):
I mean it was. It was an unbelievable stroke of
genius on their part. And they didn't even know what
was really gonna happen like that. The company didn't know it,
the company that was building them, the stephan Son Automotive,
the performance company. They didn't know what was gonna happen there.
They figured they were going to be ridiculed, and I
think initially they were, they were kind of laughed at,
but they actually happy accident. Yeah, yeah, they I think
that they said that the best that they finished with

(31:57):
something like fourteenth and fifteen in the one season. It's
a cool looking car. If you haven't ever seen it,
you know, look it up, the Volvo eight fifty Wagon
from the British Touring Car Championship or bt c C.
And you know what, We're gonna have the rest of
our list in just a moment after the break and

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we're back and you're listening to the fast Track and
I'm your host, Scott Benjamin, and I am Kurt Garant.
Kurt's holding in there for number six. All right, this
one's that's an unusual one too. These are all unusually.
That's well, that's why they're on the class, isn't it. Uh.
This is the Mercedes Benz three s c L A MG.
Now a couple of things make this really unique now

(32:40):
this one, Well, for one, it's a limousine. It's crazy.
I mean, if you look at it, it doesn't look
like it should be on the race doesn't. But I
think the more that I see this one, the more
it grows on me. I initially didn't necessarily like it.
It's a it's a fire engine red AMG sedan, I
guess a limousine. It's a longer version of the car anyway,
which is really weird. This one raised in the twenty

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four hour race a SPA in ninety one. And this
is the first race car that was ever built by MG.
Which when you look back, I mean you see a
ton of Mercedes on the roads right now that have
the MG tag on it, a lot of AMG cars.
AMG has been around for fifty two years now, they've
been around since nineteen sixty seven, and this was the

(33:22):
first race car that they ever created. Now I know
that they were working on other things, you know, for
Mercedes Benz at the time. It's kind of their performance
division if you want to call it that, or the
Performance House. But it is a full size sedan. I
maybe a limo is. I've seen it called limos some places,
but full size sedan is it's probably a better way
to say it. UM. The car actually want its class
and was second overall in the race that it was in.

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UM we're talking about again this the SPA twenty four
hour race in ninety one. Huge horse power four d
and twenty eight horse power, four hundred and forty eight
pound feet of torque, and that comes from um an engine.
I think I want to say that this was an
a board out version of the already giant V eighth
they had under the hood, which was either I can't
I can't determine this. It was either a six point

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three Leader engine or a six point six Leader engine
that they then board out to be six point eight Leaders.
But it hasn't some unusual things it has like a
it has a wood dash. UM it's kind of like
a sleeper car. I guess if you want to put
it that way, you know, I mean, it doesn't look
like outside of the decals, if it didn't have all that.
I mean, it's it's a little bit jacked up in
the rear. It's got you know, rally lights in the front.

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If you took all that off of their the decals,
the lights, it would just look like a sedan on
the road. It really wouldn't be anything, you know, much different.
I mean, the tires are a little bit wider. Sure,
I get it, but I don't know. It's just like
taking whatever car you had on the street and throwing
it on the racetrack and you know, putting a number
on it and calling it a race car. But it
still has the chrome trim on. It doesn't look like

(34:45):
a race car. Doesn't like it would be very fast.
They called it the Red Pig. I mean, if that
says anything, So the Mercedes Benz s l A MG
or if you want to search the Red Pig, you'll
find an image or a photo this car. Now, so
here's what happened to the original car, Because lot of
people are wondering, you know, where is it as a
museum somewhere or something like that. That's unfortunately not the case.

(35:06):
That didn't happen, and it had a tragic end, and
replicas of the original are available there, you know, you get,
of course, there are museums and you know, people are
building in that kind of thing, and their exact replicas
they're they're very they're very detailed, right down to you know,
exactly the way it was. But the original was sold
to an aircraft company and because it was one of
the fastest cars in the world at the time, you know,

(35:28):
is huge horse power. Again, um, it was perfect, as
they say, for testing landing gear at speed by dropping
the landing gear through holes that they cut into the
floorboards of the car. So they would drive this thing
down the track at speed and then drop the landing
gear through these holes, which would just tear the hell
out of the car. I mean every time they did

(35:49):
it right. Unfortunately it didn't take a very long but
this thing eventually just became such a total wreck that
they couldn't even use it for that. So, um, the
original Red Pig met quite a strange end. I don't
think there's a lot of cars that had a history
like that, or you know an end like that. Especially
race cars, usually they either crash or they end up
in a museum. You know, one of the two next
one on the list, this is number seven. It's the

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Toyota Prius. G T might laugh throwing a g T
at the end of Prius, but until you see the
Prius GT, uh, you don't understand. I mean this is
This is the Super GT Prius, which debuted in the
Super GT series in two thousand twelve. It took the
class pole position in the GT three hundred class and
then took sixth place at the two thousand twelve Fuji

(36:32):
GT five KO race. It is, as you may have
already guessed, not a your typical Toyota Prius. Still hybrid.
It still has a what has a larger lithium ion
batteries you might expect, But the biggest difference is that
it has a mid mounted three point four leader V
eight engine that produces three hundred horsepower. Of course it's uh,
it's naturally aspirated. It's not a turbo engine. It ran

(36:54):
from about two thousand twelve until two thousand eighteen, and
it got the podium several times during that time. This one,
I have been staring at photos of this for a
long time trying to figure out where the Prius is
underneath there, because it doesn't have a whole lot of
shared panels or anything like that. I mean, it's it's
buried somewhere underneath some really impressive looking body work, just

(37:14):
real quick. Is something that comes back to the road
Kill Knights. I was watching a little bit of the
road Kill Knights footage, you know, some of the drag events,
and one of the things that they had paired up
was a I think it was a Dodge Dart Demon
and a Prius, and you might think, okay, well what
are they what are they doing with this? Well, the
Prius was actually powered by a Dodge Hellcat crate engine

(37:37):
and not just the hell Cat engine because you might think, well,
maybe the dark Demon still has a chance against this
lightweight Prius, right, But they had upgraded the seven and
seven horsepower Hellcat engine by adding a four point five
Leader Whipple supercharter to that. So it's it's achieving one
thousand horse power in a Prius that just falls into
that y categories. So this is not your you know,

(37:59):
this is not for fuel economy or anything like that, right,
But but it's it's funny as hell to watch this
dreg and of course it just it destroys the Dodge
Demon right off the line. I mean it's within ten feet.
You're gonna see who's gonna win. I mean, it's it's
that quick. It's like it's just gone. Let's let's speed
through these last couples so that we can get to
our extras. Okay, so the there's the nineteen seventy six

(38:23):
Terrell P. Thirty four. Actually this is called the Project
thirty four. Consider this the most unusual f one car
you've probably ever seen. Is so we I'm gonna say it. Um,
this is the six wheeler. And I think a lot
of people can also picture this one in their mind.
This is the six wheeler that has I think it
has ELF printed on the side. A lot of people
can picture that as well. I think Elf was like

(38:44):
a fuel or something at the time. Wasn't something like that,
but it was one too. Yeah, you're right through the
two thousand's or late nineties. Yeah, yeah, I think of
sponsorship or you'd see banners or at least you know,
it's some kind of signage for those. Um, this is
a car that was designed by a guy named Derek Gardner,
who is actually better known as a transmission designer up
until the point that he met Ken Tyrrell in nineteen

(39:05):
seventy and he convinced him to start designing cars, and
he did so. I think around nineteen seventy they started
building cars in God, I think it was just like
a private garage. Maybe even it could have even have
been Derreck Gardner's garage. This one has a V eight engine.
It's a Ford Couseworth engine um DFV engine, which stands
for double four valve engine. The reason behind this, and
a lot of people will wonder why why bother with

(39:27):
extra wheels? You think that would just be extra trouble.
And you know, the advantage comes in increased breaking power,
which I guess makes sense. You get more breaking surface
so you're able to, you know, go harder into the
corners when you need to. And that's exactly what they did.
And it raced. It was sort of successful. It raced
during I think it was ninety six and nineteen seventy
seven or and it retired after nineteen seventy seven. It

(39:50):
kind of won over fans it it initially, you know,
fans laughed at it thought it was kind of ridiculous,
and it still looks ridiculous a little bit, but it
did win people over it. It ran in thirty races
it had it had only unwin, which was in the
Swedish Grand Prix, and that's when Jody Scheckter drove that
car and then had one pole position and get us
three times. It's at the fastest lap in a race.
Then there's the number nine, the Rolls Royce Corniche. Now

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we've done a lot of cars to episodes on Rolls
Royce and you know all about the uh, the the
luxury and you know the opulence of the of the
Rolls Royce, and that's not what this one is all about.
This is a different animal altogether. This is my weirdest
one on the list, is it really? Yeah? Oh se
you like? Do you like this one a lot? Do you?
I mean? Do you like it? It's just it would
be strange seeing a race across the desert? Yeah. Back,

(40:35):
where was it the Paris to d Car Rally. This
was a nine one entry to the Paris to the
Car event and I don't know how many years it race,
But it's not entirely a Rolls Royce. Underneath there's um
a Toyle Land Cruiser chassis. It's powered by a five
point seven Leader small block Chevy V eight. They thought
it was a joke again, but um gosh, I mean

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it did pretty well in the standings. I think it
was as high as thirteen in the standings. Not too
bad really, And it's a ruling race, a very difficult
race to make. And to consider that you're in a
Rolls Royce. I mean, it's a funny idea, isn't it
that you know that this is such a luxury car
and it's known for its oculence, but here it is
blazing across the desert and I'm sure that inside there
it was uncomfortable and it wasn't. It wasn't a comfortable
trip by any means. It's not like you're in the

(41:18):
lats of luxury like not like in one of the
hardly a Rolls Royce's not like in one of the
Cannonball Run movies or something where it's you know, a
race car underneath, and you know it's a race car
inside as well. It's you know, it has to have
all that as well. Yeah, I love the name to Jules. Jules,
do you name your cars, Scott, I do not have
you ever named a car? Uh? They kind of developed

(41:39):
names over time. Let me ask you this, does your
current car have a name? It does? Yeah, Jane. Okay,
Jane is right, plane Jane. Then I've had the silver Bullet,
um was my first car. That's cylinder, Honda Civic hatchback. Okay,
so silver Bullet that's good. Yeah, it's funny. I would
bet a lot of people. I I just never even

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think about this, but I would bet a lot of
people name name their car. I'd love I'd love to
hear some people, you know, some of our listeners right
in with the names of their car or cars that
they've had in the past, and what type of car
it was, and maybe even you know, a short description.
Why number ten you don't. I'm gonna do something unusually.
I'm gonna leave. I'm gonna actually change the order up
of our show here right as we're talking just a

(42:22):
little bit, not not too much, because number ten relates
to what I'm going to talk about later. So um,
I do want to bring out one that I did
not find on the list that I think was really
unusual in nineteen fifty again with nineteen o ninety eight
was the the Citrum nineteen fifty UM in the poor
Man's five hundred, which I think is a great name
for a NASCAR race. It's so funny. The poor Man's

(42:43):
five hundred at Canfield Speedway in Ohio. A Tucker participated
in a NASCAR race. It's it's believed to be car
number one zero two three. The photos appeared in Hemmings.
I think it started somewhere around two thousand and eight
when they kind of, you know, pose the idea that
you know, this might have happen, and and here's a
photo of a car that looks like a NASCAR Did
this really happen? And you know, there's a lot of

(43:04):
discussion and back and forth, and then eventually the son
of the man that ran the car in the NASCAR
race wrote in with another photograph of his dad standing
next to the same car on the same car lot,
so um proof positive that you know he definitely did
run this thing. The photo was taken in the Mount
Oliver section of Pittsburgh. UM. I think it's um. It's

(43:25):
a used car dealer, a lot that it's on off
all things I mean, and and I'll tell you about
cars car number one or two three. This is unusual.
This is one that was actually lost in a fire
later on, and then it was buried under the garage
of the Tucker Automobile Club of America's founder in Florida.
So if you want to know where it is, it's
underneath a slab of concrete in Florida. But an unusual,

(43:47):
unusual thing. And if you go to Hemmings dot com
you can see photographs of the NASCAR Tucker. It's got
the number twelve um painted on the side there and
it looks like Joe Nagle Jr. Motor Sales is the
name printed on the side. So I thought that was
interest seen. The driver's name was Joe Morola and he
was out of Braddock, Pennsylvania. Alright, So number ten on
this list is Jungle Gym's Chevrolet Vega Wagon, a second

(44:09):
wagon to make the list. And I see why. This
one is a drag car, you know, drag racing. I mean,
do we see that kind of thing now see it anymore? Maybe?
I'm not sure how common it was back then. I mean,
I know in the late sixties and seventies, like you
wanted your car to look you try to be outrageous,
exaggerated and weird, and it gonna be a little crazy, right,
It would be a little little outrageous, a little different,

(44:30):
a little unique. All right. Well that's coming up in
just a second too, so hang on. Uh So, the
thing is that wagons actually had a kind of a
surge of interest, as they say, in the nhr A
Pro Stock class because of the mass at the back
of the the wagon, which actually added to the traction
of the vehicle. So think about going back to that
Volvo eight fifty wagon in the Touring Car Championship, similar idea.

(44:54):
You know, there's there's probably a lot of the same reason.
There's a bit of advantage, I mean, and once you're
at speed again, there's a little bit of an aerodynamic
advantage as well. So one of the craziest cars that
was out there was it was jungle Jim Lieberman and
he raised in the nineteen seventy two Chevy Vega wagon
and of all things, a Chevy Vega. A lot of people,
you know, laugh at the Chevy Vega because it was
supposed to be more about economy than it was about performance.

(45:17):
Of course, and you know, it doesn't matter. In n
hr A pro stock. You just throw an Enginea. It's
just a shell at that point, really, I mean there's
nothing underneath it. That is. His stock really had a
short wheel base because it was a compact wagon um
and had a lightweight design, you know. But but waited
in the right way, you know, it was waited exactly
where he needed it. So you know, it was actually
a strong performer. And jungle Gym was he was like

(45:39):
a He wasn't one of the early guys that that
was like really, I would call him flamboyant, but I
don't mean that. I mean he was more like a promoter,
like a showman. He ended up dying fairly young. He
died at the age of thirty one. He was killed
in a He had a m a Corvette and I
think he was in Pennsylvania. I believe at the time.
He went around a corner too fast and head on

(46:00):
with a bus of all things. He hit a bus
head on. I mean that's what you hear about, like
he could get hit by a bus, who knows. But
he was only thirty one years old. Made quite a
an impression on everybody. But I said that he was
kind of a showman, right, all right, So I have, Um,
I'm telling you what I'm doing here. I'm gonna slide
a piece of paper over to you, and I have
stapled a piece of white paper on top of this.

(46:21):
The Kurd has never seen what I'm about to show him.
He might already know. He kind of has annoying look.
But to go along with the Jungle Gym story, we
have to include one other character that Jungle Jim had
with him on the track. Can I guess? Or you
want me to look first? You want to guess? I
want to guess? Okay, what was the is it? His wife?
Is his girlfriend? Girlfriend? His girlfriend? Her name, I don't

(46:43):
know her name. Her name was Jungle Pam. Jungle Pam. Okay,
so I'm Jungle Pam Hardy. Now, Jungle Pam Hardy. I'm
I'm showing him some photos of Jungle Pam Hardy. And
what Jungle Pam Hardy's job was on the track. Now,
she was something that they call a stay on staging girl.
And I'm not trying to be derogatory in any means

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that I'm gonna try to be very careful about this,
I am. But she was a rather busty persons Buxom
Good looking lady. She was good looking lady. Yeah, yeah,
but it was his girlfriend, he kind of I think
he just met her like cruising buyer one day on
the sidewalk or some some story like that. They were
boyfriend and girlfriend. She toured with him for a while.
She would come out in these extremely skimpy unif you

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know outfits, I'll call him uniform, but it's an outfit, um,
go go boots, you know, really tiny little shorts and
you know, a halter top. And you got to remember
the era. She would come out and um in these outfits,
drive the guys you know at the track crazy, and
you know her job was to back him up, you know,
once he had done his burnout, and she would also,
uh she would very seductively bend over and check for

(47:48):
fluid leaks under the car and add fluids and you know,
make sure that they do final checks right. She actually
was the one who packed his parachutes. She would do
more than you knew behind the scenes. She was hands on,
she really was, and not a lot of people knew
that she was hands on in the pits, in the
pit area. She was definitely like a pin up type girl. Um,

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you know that they loved to photograph her. Jungle Jim
knew that, and that's why she was there exactly, And
other teams copied that they brought someone like that with
them as well, because Jim was stealing all the attention
from every other driver, no matter how he did in
the race, no matter how poorly he was performing, everybody
was looking at his team and his name was getting

(48:29):
out there because of Jungle Pam. So he knew how
valuable Pam was, not only for you know, because she
was she was actually helping on the team, but also
the promotional aspects of this whole thing. I want to
tell you something that I found pretty unusual going through
and finding these Jungle Pam images and kind of learning
about her. And there's kind of a resurgence of that

(48:50):
right now happening, and uh, and it's kind of a
popular thing. I didn't know that. I'm not one to
hang out at the race tracks. Maybe you've you've seen
this in person. I feel like it was even back then.
It was just kind of part of the show, even
when it was like a street racing type thing back
in the fifties. But you can only imagine, but the
women also played that part in the whole thing. Yeah,

(49:12):
seen Greece before. Yeah, but a good point. Yeah. But
you know what, I here's the thing, and I'm not
just talking about you know, the the um the rockabilly
looking girl that throws the green flag, you know, jumps
up and down, you know, wearing shorts or whatever. I'm
talking about, like a full on backup girl at a
drag racing competition, just like Pam Hardy was that has

(49:34):
other duties. But you know, dresses in go go boots,
dresses like they're in the late sixties. Uh, they have
that look intentionally if you want, if you want to
get an idea of what I'm talking about, you can
look up articles about the backup girl or the comeback
of the backup girl. Or there's a video online called
um Southeast Gasser's Backup Girls Season. It's a brand new version.

(49:57):
You'll see. Uh. You know women from this year that
are doing this. I mean, and and before you write
in hostile letters or whatever, these are women of all ages, sizes, shapes,
different styles address. I mean, it's girlfriends, it's wives, it's daughters,
it's anyone really that that wants to do this. And
it looks like a lot of fun. It really does.
It seems like you know those rockabilly events where they

(50:17):
have you know, rat rods and things like that in music,
and it looks like the women that are participating in
that as well, that are doing this. It's just that
similar kind of feel. It's kind of a neat, nostalgic thing.
That's it's taking grip and I kind of like it.
I like that. I like the trend. It gives you
that feel, that that old time feel when you see it,
even if about the cars, but then to just they

(50:39):
were more wild and out of control. You can hear
the you know, the supercharger whining and everything, and that's
the thing that he was coming out and it was
just to me, the cars of that era and the
whole spectacle of it is just more raw and well
you were sharing you shared with me a video recently
of as a drag racing documentary. I guess we'll call it.

(51:00):
I don't know what it was called, but um it
was from the late sixties in Indianapolis, um at the
national event and oh my gosh, I think it was
a Hurst sponsored thing because the Hurst appeared everywhere. But
it was it was film obviously, it was you know,
the old film and it had that that alone gives
it a great texture feel. But the cars and the
people and the dress and the you know, the way

(51:22):
it's narrated, just everything about that piece was it was unbelievable.
It was really really cool. I loved watching that. And
you know, the music as of course, it's original music
that was scored, you know, just for that documentary. Very
much of the era, very much of the late sixties,
early seven I think it was the late sixties. Um,
but yeah, you're right. The just the raw power of
those cars. I mean, a lot of them are you

(51:43):
know if if they screw up, it's in a wheel
stand and you know that's or a lot of them
were drifting over into the other lane and bumping the
other car and the engine was just right there in
front of them and it will be losing parts because
it flew down the track. Beautiful cars. I mean, it's
just unreal. It's so cool to watch the watch that
old stuff. But well, I tell you, Kurt, I think
we've a lot of topics just from this one list
that I think are going to do to uh kind

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