October 17, 2024 • 50 mins
Joey Graziadei and Jenna Johnson Chmerkovskiy have danced their way into the O.R.!
We hear everything about their partnership on the dancefloor for Dancing with the Stars and how they deal with all the social media pressure that comes along with it.
Joey gives us an inside look at his future father-in-law Mark and why we might see him return to TV as the next Golden Bachelor!
Plus, we find out once and for all if there’s something going on between former Bachelorette Jenn Tran and her dance partner!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya rt An iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Hello everybody, we are scrubbing.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
In scrub adub dub with two tub atub tubs.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
Oh you know why because we have a tub and
then our guests have a tub.
Speaker 5 (00:18):
Oh I see, Yeah, two tubs, one.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Podcast, one O R you like that?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah, I am so excited about our guests today.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
Tell me I have been wanting them on the podcast
for a few weeks now.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
No more than that, because you were getting Joey for
like a month.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
I wanted Joey since he was a Bachelor. Yeah, but
now that he's with Jenna, I wanted them as a duo.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
And now today we have them as a duo. They're
in the.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Ballroom, They're on the dance floor. On the dance floor,
Jenna is always on the dance floor. Joey is right
off of his stint on The Bachelor. Not right off,
but yeah, it feels feels right off.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
It's fresh enough.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Yeah, it's very fresh.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
And they are crushing it this season.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
Yeah, and I cannot wait to ask them all the questions.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
So please welcome Jenna Johnson Schmerkovsky and Joey Grosseta.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Started.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
We are so excited that y'all are here today because
I've been dying to talk to y'all and I'm so
happy what made this happen.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
Very excited to be here.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yes, where do we begin?
Speaker 4 (01:26):
It's tough.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
Before we started, you were saying that Jenna is superstitious,
and she kind of scoffed. But there seems to be
some repetition in rituals, and I was curious what those are.
Speaker 7 (01:42):
There's just like a bunch of little things that, again,
like if you're in a sports background, anything like superstition
is a normal thing. But we put on grips on
the bottom of our shoes to help with dancing. And
if I ever would give her my left foot first
to put the grip on, she would kill me because
it has to be right foot first. Every time she
puts a battery and mike pack on, if it's not
(02:02):
on her right side, she will tell the team, hey,
I'm sorry, not left side has to be right side.
Speaker 6 (02:09):
Therapy. It's just little details of things that.
Speaker 7 (02:13):
Again, I think she's just in a routine and needs
the repetition and needs to feel comfortable with it.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
And I'm just along for the ride and making sure,
I don't mess with what the routine and the rituals are.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (02:24):
I'm here for you.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Have you joined her in the superstition?
Speaker 6 (02:27):
I mean, yeah, it's if it works, we're sticking with it.
Never give you the left shoe first, it's always right
shoe first.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
Is it as extensive as like wearing the same like
underwear and stuffery you pretty.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I'm not that crazy, but no, it's just like little
routines that have become part of this experience for me
on the show that I'm like, that works for me,
I'm going to stick with it. Also, I married a
Russian and they're like severely, severely superstitious, like everything is
a thing, Like if you even have a good thought,
(03:00):
you have to like knock on your head and say too.
It's the thing in Russian. Yeah, so like my mother
in law like heaven forbid you jinx anything good.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
It's weird.
Speaker 7 (03:10):
I'm also extremely sarcastic, and we'll say like dumb things
a lot of time, like I hope I don't roll
my ankle today, and she will just like.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
Everywhere.
Speaker 7 (03:20):
So it's been a funny kind of dynamic that we
have because I say the wrong thing almost every day
and then it just gets her a little bit off,
as you can see from thee.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
But so you're saying you do it because it's like
your family, it's your mother in law.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
It's not just in the ballroom like you know it
every day.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
It intensified when I married my husband. Yeah, it's like,
obviously you know they're Ukrainian, but like just Europeans in general,
I think they have the superstitious nature and so it's
become part of my life. I should see somebody about that,
maybe basically, yes, yeah, maybe Vell needs to Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
I feel like as a viewer I have been so
I was shocked at how good you are.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Did you know that you had it in you?
Speaker 7 (04:07):
Not entirely, I've said it a lot, like I played
drums growing up, as people found out, and like I've
always really loved music, so I've always been really good
at listening and understanding music. I guess I think back
to when we did the first like part of the experience,
we did some type of bumper for the show and
we had to actually freestyle dance, and.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
It was horrible, Like I was so bad.
Speaker 7 (04:29):
But the one thing Jenna did say to me, was like, no,
but like you're even though you're doing it bad, you
were hitting the beat every time of when you're supposed
to move, and she's like, there's something in there, and
now I can really just listen to her and find
out what I'm supposed to do when the beat actually comes.
But I've always been at least able to like hear
and listen to it, and I think that probably is
the thing I brought into play. And besides that, I'm
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just really listening what she says. But I didn't know
how I was going to perform. I didn't know a
lot of things, and I'm just very happy that it's
been going well so far.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Was it hard for you because you're a co your
tennis coach, so like being the one who's typically teaching
everyone in the right form and how to do it.
Was it hard for you to kind of let that
coach mentality down?
Speaker 7 (05:10):
No, because I actually love the process of learning something
new as like a teaching pro for tennis too. A
lot of times I'm a lefty, so a lot of
times I teach people like, yeah, I'm rioty, okay, So
then you have to teach people a lot righty so
I actually early on we kind of noticed as like
a trick for tennis is like I would actually try
(05:32):
to hit the ball a lot of times, ready to
know what it feels like for that person and try
to use my opposite hand, and like, I enjoy the
idea of feeling uncomfortable because then you actually understand what
it's like as someone coming and trying to do something new.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
And it's a very like take that and like take
that into like a little bit of like a microcosm
what a great partner now, Like.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
But that's why I think he is so great. There
isn't ego involved, and I don't like to learn something new.
I don't think many people enjoy being like not good
at something immediately. So he's really great at taking it
all in and being able to receive feedback and loves
the idea of repetition and knows that the progress is
going to happen if we keep doing it, if he keeps,
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you know, listening to feedback. So I think that's why
he is such a great student. Maybe that teacher background,
I think, but also yeah, musicality, there's there's so many
great things about it.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Are you like that in your personal life.
Speaker 7 (06:26):
I think I've always enjoyed trying new things. But I think,
as everyone else, like once you get good at something,
you kind of keep doing it. So I like, golf
is my new thing that I love so much, and
I'm great some days. I suck others, and it's not
fun to be bad at something, but I do enjoy
trying to do new things and dance with something I've
always been interested in. So yeah, I don't know, I
think just this process, and I really will say it's
(06:49):
having her as a coach, Like it makes it so
much easier to have her every time be the one
that's helping me through it because I don't know, we've
kind of figured out a way to like Wednesdays and
Thursdays are hard, and we know they're hard, but then
I just see us kind of build each day and
it's it makes it feel like you can actually trust
the process of it.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
No, But I mean, like when you said that you
like to see things from other people's perspectives and like
do it that way. I'm like, that's like the dream,
Like that's what anybody wants like their partner to say,
like in your romantic life too, Like I want to
see this from your perspectives.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Put myself in your ship.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
I think about others a lot more than myself.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
That's just that's double edged sword.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
Yeah, yeah, it works good.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
And so yeah, yeah, Jenna, did you when you met
like how?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Oh this was my question. I don't know if you
can share this. But in terms of who your partner is,
do you have any say in it?
Speaker 4 (07:38):
I wish really you don't get any even like seniority.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
No, no, I mean I think they tried to mix
it up. So if you've had like an amazing couple
of seasons, you know they'll distribute, so everybody has an opportunity,
but there's no say it's really our casting director has
everything to do with it. So yeah, the luck of
the draw. When you walk in there, you're like, all right,
(08:02):
well this is what this is what I'm dealing with
for the next couple of months. So you're dealing with
that terrible word.
Speaker 7 (08:07):
But like, well, I think the other part that's crazy
too is every season they don't really even know how
the celebrities are going to be too. Like people could
come and being like yeah I can dance, or like
I don't know if I'm going to be good like
no one knows until you get to start the process,
so it is kind of hard to also match up.
They do know, like obviously this season chan they're coming in,
I think they knew that girl knew how to dance, right, But.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
Then everyone else they don't know how they're going to
kind of go through the process, which is hard.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Our casting director, Dina Cat she's incredible and she knows
all of us pros inside and out. She knows our personalities,
our heights. You know, there's so many variables that go
into it. But she really really.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Blessed me this season, so forever grateful.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
Well, they say, like, do you just take a deep
breath when you like get who you're gonna Yeah, you
saw him doing his freestyle, even though he says it
was not good horrible, but you were like, I see
potential that this could this could really work.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
I So we met and I didn't watch the season
of The Bachelor, so sorry, you know really I know, Well, okay,
so I heard the same thing from so many people,
and my sister is like a mega Bachelor fan, and
so she was like he is the greatest guy, like
the nicest guy. Everyone loved him, and I was like okay, awesome,
(09:20):
and he's athletic, you know, he plays tennis. I'm like, sick.
Does that translate?
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Let's try.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
And then we met each other and the same day
we had like our big Dancing with the Star's promo shoot.
And it's such an uncomfortable day because it's like nine
hours stuck together. I'm in full spray Tan Ryan Stones.
We're just like and they're like just like dance together
and it's so awkward and vulnerable, and he had such
a great attitude about it. He just kind of like
(09:46):
giggled the whole time. And then they made him freestyle
by himself like ten times as a professional dancer, I
would get uncomfortable freestyling for as long as they made him.
And he was like kind of hitting the time and
like doing fun, groovy moves, and I was like, wait,
what's happening. So I got really excited then, and I
(10:08):
think we just immediately like clicked as well. We have
a similar i don't know, not personality, but we just
kind of got along VI yeah, yeah, good vibes. So
it made me really motivated. And then I just wanted
to like shock people because they had no expectations for him.
To be a dancer, and he's not a dancer, but
I think he's just like that perfect candidate for this
(10:30):
show where he's just going to embrace it. And each
week I feel like you've done that where you kind
of just shocked people and we're like, oh my gosh,
how did he do that?
Speaker 5 (10:37):
Well? I feel like that's the fun part of watching
the show is. And it's fun to watch someone who's
a really good dancer dance obviously, but it's really fun
to watch someone that has no background in dancing come
on and surprise everybody to where you're like, oh my gosh,
you just needed a coach, you just needed a good partner.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
It's like that beautiful Cinderella story where you like watch
the journey and see the transformation you're like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
So yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I think that's why people also are really drawn to
you on the show, is seeing his growth and seeing
him even from week one, I feel like he's gotten
so much better as a dancer naturally, So you're welcome.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Is it like such a crazy kind of like vortex
that you're thrown into because it's like you you both
have lives, like you're in relationships, you have lives going on,
and then you get thrown into this like this almost
like a bootcam.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yeah, it's a bubble for sure. It's a big three
months worth of a bubble.
Speaker 7 (11:28):
It's a big like a lotted amount of time you
just get It's it just takes all your focus too, Like, yeah,
I'm dreaming about dancing now, I don't even dream like
I'm just going to bed. I'm like think about the
dancer the night before, and it's just yeah, it just
it takes up a lot of your mental space and everything.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
But it's so much fun.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
They do such a good job on this show making
everyone feel so comfortable. There is this kind of family aspect,
So as much as you're getting pulled out of your
normal lives, it's so nice to have the actual process
be so enjoyable too.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Which has been harder was The Bachelor being the Bachelor
or Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
I would say they're just different. It's hard to compare.
I think the Bachelor, as you know, is such a
I don't want to use the word invasion. It's just
like it's your personal life, Like you're putting yourself out
there and talking so much about your feelings and you're
possibly going to end up with someone that could be
your forever partner. So there's so much that is at
stake with something like that that puts a lot of
(12:20):
pressure on yourself. But then this is so different because
it's the competition side, the performance side.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
You're you're finding.
Speaker 7 (12:26):
Out new things about yourself, You're doing something so uncomfortable,
something that you've.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
Never done before.
Speaker 7 (12:31):
I'd say the physical and mental part of this is different,
but it is almost harder because the nice part about
the Bachelors I could just be myself and just hope
that what I was doing was going to at least work,
and I didn't have to think as much. I would say,
like I just kind of just did me and just
hoped it worked out.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
I'm thinking every day.
Speaker 7 (12:49):
Doing this, whether it's dancing, whether it's like, Okay, now
I have to actually go perform, and like ignore the
fact this is live television.
Speaker 6 (12:56):
Is so much harder to do, so much harder to do.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
That's what I feel like would be the really hard
part is that in a rehearsal room, you're like, I've
got this down, like I know it like the back
of my hand, and then you put an audience and
cameras and the live element to it, and it's just
like this unparalleled sense of pressure and performance. And I'm
curious about because you brought up chemistry. Have y'all had
chemistry as soon as you know y'all met and you
(13:20):
know it's gonna be good vibes. Have you had a
situation where you met your partner and it was you
were just like, we don't have it, but I'm gonah.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
For sure, for sure, And that is so scary because
there are a lot of things that happen live in
our performance. Like I feel like every time we've danced
on the show, something has happened, like something new has happened.
And if you don't have that trust, you don't have
that like, oh, we we'll fix this and we'll just
and we'll trust each other because we both know that,
(13:49):
like we're on the same page. So if you don't
gel or vibe, it's really hard to have that trust
in such a high pressure, intense situation. We're like, oh,
we're gonna make this work because I have no idea
where his head's at.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Yeah, So I.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Feel like we have we have that like yeah, I
mean connection where we're like, okay, yeah, I slipped, but
you're gonna grab me.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
We can use this last week as an example too,
Like we going into that dance, it was it felt
so great during practice, like it was probably the most
confident we've ever been going into like a Monday and
Tuesday we started doing practice runs and it just never
hit something was wrong with it, and we were like
trying to figure out why it didn't feel good when
we got on the ballroom dance floor and it started
to get better on Tuesday, but there was just something
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about we knew that there was something there that we
could fix. We talked about in the trailer before we
got out there, and we're like, we're gonna figure it out.
Like regardless, we trust each other, We're going to figure
it out. And that makes a huge difference because if
we didn't have a good relationship and connection, I probably
was gonna be in my head so much going into that.
But I do remember that moment right before we just
like look at each other, we smiled and let's enjoy
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this dance.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
We know this dance we can do it.
Speaker 7 (14:55):
And that is huge to have before you get out
there because it's scary, it really is.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Yeah, y'all are like throwing like you're throwing her around,
and y'all are jumping all over each other.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
And honestly, I could never do it.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Besides, just like the two of you being in this
wartex are you do you hang out with the other
cast members or do you like look at them like
you're my competition stay away or are you like more friendly?
Speaker 7 (15:32):
You can speak on this because of the show different
You talk about it from like your perspective of how
it usually is on the show, and I'll explain what
it's like being in my position, because I think that's
a little different.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I think it's hard because we do have our own
individual lives and I'm also I've been with the pros
on the show for years and years and years, so
we have that like friendship. We've seen each other at
the best and the worst of times. We've gone on
tour together. So during the season, I don't feel like
we're like hanging out outside of practice. We see each
other every day. But it is fun to like get
(16:01):
to know the new celebrities each season and build those relationships.
I think you live at an apartment with some of them,
so you probably see them outside of the studio more
than I do. But it is nice to build these friendships,
in these bonds because they do last a lifetime.
Speaker 7 (16:16):
It's weird too, because we do see each other sometimes
where we stay and like you run into them and
you get to have these little hellos and sometimes you
get to hang out with them. But as you guys know,
there's so much time you put into it that the
time we actually see them hang out is during rehearsals.
Because we're all at the same studio. You'll sometimes connect
and talk with them for.
Speaker 6 (16:33):
A little bit.
Speaker 7 (16:34):
I will say the coolest part about this show is
there's something about everyone doing something uncomfortable that there's not
really rooting against each.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
Other energy, at least from this season.
Speaker 7 (16:45):
Like, yeah, you want to have the best score of
the night, but that's under your control, that's not under theirs.
And when you see someone maybe have a falter or a mistake,
you can feel everyone being like, no, no, you got this,
like and pumping them up because when they come up
on that skybox and you can tell they're disappointed, the
last thing you want to do is rub it in
their face. You want to get them and tell them
how great it was, and like focus on this part
and that part, and I don't know, there's a camaraderie
(17:07):
that comes out of it that is really cool because
it is a competition show, but there's something about it.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
That's just no though.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
I think it is unique to this season as well,
not like we've had like villains on other seasons. But
there is the cast the season, for some reason, is
such a good cohesive group. Everybody's really positive. I think
maybe too because there's a lot of athletes, so there
is that like rooting for each other, yeah, and wanting
to see each other succeed. But it's really beautiful because
(17:34):
you don't get to see this part, but when a
couple's dancing, Joey mentioned this thing called the skybox, and
that's where Julianne's standing where she gives the scores, but
that's where the rest of us are watching, and we're
like watching on this balcony and we all collect and
watch whoever's going next and cheer loud for them, and
it's kind of special, Like I got she was thinking
about it. When else do you get to see that?
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So it's really really sweet. But this cast in general,
I think is one of the sweetest all around sweetest.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
We've got a great group, and I will say I
think each week it changes, you know, like people are
starting to really pay attention to the scores. I think
everyone feels like they have a chance to win it
this year. So because of that, it is getting more competitive,
but it's been fun to still see that there's there's
some friendliness.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
To it still too.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Yeah, it's like, how do you avoid the competitional element
when it's such a tight race. You know, you literally
can't escape from the competition because you are married to
pro vow Yeah, and so you're in it twenty four
to seven. What is it like when y'all get home
and if it's is there, is it like camaraderie?
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Turn it off?
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Like is it something that you can just like turn
off and you're like, Okay, I'm home now, Like put
that hat away.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
So you know, Valin I met on the show, and
there is no rule book on how to be married
or engaged to or dating somebody that you work with
that is, there's no like guidelines to it. So we've
over the years had to figure out how we know
navigate it and how we separate the two. And I
(19:03):
think at first we would take it home and we
would like really mentally go over it and be like
so stressed and bring it into our personal life. Not
in a negative way, it just like was constantly about work, work,
And I think now that we've been married for a
little bit and now we have a son, there is
a turn off. It is when I'm home, I'm mom,
I'm dad. You know, we're really engaged with our son.
(19:25):
But he's vow so amazing. He always wants to see
my video so he can give me tips and pointers
and things to like remind Joey about. And then when
he's at the studio at the same time, he'll come
into our rehearsal and like see how we're doing. We'll
do show and tells with him and Phaedra. So you know,
I think people are always like, oh, is it like
cut throat at your house and you're like, I want
(19:46):
to win, But it's really opposite of that. But we've
had to have years and years of navigating that and
like trying to figure it out. But I love that
we are such an anomaly of like who else can
say that they compete on a television show against their
spouse year after a year.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
It's fun it's so cool.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
It's like I can't even imagine it because it's like
you think about you know, like you get home at
the end of the day and you like ask your partner,
like how your day was.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
It's like a totally different day. You know, I had
some business calls, you know, what did you do?
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Like, Oh, my day was good.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
But it's like you guys are like in it. You're
like living and breathing the same thing.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Similar days. Yeah, under high stress, Yeah, same timeline, like
and we both then have to go perform live with
our partners. Yeah. It's pretty unique, but it's it's awesome. Yeah,
I love it.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Is it does it help you being married being in
the same industry that helps with the I guess I'm
gonna get to the Kelsey of it all like with this,
because I personally would have a really hard time watching
my girlfriend but in this environment and like spending that
(20:51):
much time away and it's so intimate and you're like
with this person and you're doing these sexy dances. Does
it help you, like mentally being in the industry as him,
knowing kind of what the process is like, do you
think it would be harder for you if you weren't in.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
It, absolutely for sure, and I think people have to
realize that I've also been on the receiving end of it,
so you know, like even when we were dating or engaged,
like beals had some hot partners. But I understand this
dance as a sport right right, and the artistry of it,
(21:26):
and I know that you have to have connection. And
then I've also had you know, really awesome partners where
he's been on the receiving end of it. So I
think it definitely helps that we're in the same industry
and we understand what the end goal is, right and
what it takes to get there. So I yeah, but
I can I have a lot of empathy for people
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who are girlfriends or boyfriends that come on the show
and they are supportive and they want to see their
partners succeed because it does take a lot of strength
and a lot of trust. But that's why you know,
I beginning at the season, the season with Joey, I
kind of said to him, like, the more open we
can be and involve Kelsey and make her feel part
(22:08):
of it, so there's nothing like hidden, I think, the
better like be part of this experience. So there doesn't
feel like there's this like hidden Oh what's going on?
And you know, the imagination goes to town, but like
be so proud to show her, so then she feels
proud and excited about it. So yeah, it's so hard
(22:28):
because I understand. I mean, we're kind of desensitized as
dancers to it because this is just our work and
we do this year after year with somebody and our
end goal is to make the best dance possible. There's
no other motive, right, So it is hard, and I
think this is the ultimate question that we guess get
asked all the time. But I'll let Joey speak after, like,
now having experienced it and understanding.
Speaker 7 (22:51):
Yeah, what it takes, I think it's a really interesting
situation and something I knew coming in. As you said,
people have always talked about from the show. You spend
a lot of time with them, you get intimate and dances,
and it's like, how does that work with a relationship too,
And I'll be the first timuit that I'm still figuring
it out because I'm trying my best to be open
to share everything, like she said, but it still as
hard that I'm not able to be with Kelsey as
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much as I would like to, because it's such a
time restriction that we're putting in. But yeah, she said
it perfectly. It's about being open, it's about talking through it.
Like every time I come home, Kelsey sees me so
excited about dance, and if I don't explain why I'm excited,
it can, as you said, imagination can run forever.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
But I'm like, no, I'm just really stoked.
Speaker 7 (23:28):
We smashed our dance today and I show her the
wide that we took in the video and being like,
this is what it's looking like.
Speaker 6 (23:33):
Now.
Speaker 7 (23:33):
We worked on this today, and I need to work
on this and that. And sometimes they'll pick her up
and I'll do the dance with her so like she
can feel what it's like, and it's just that kind
of stuff. I think the hardest part about this, truthfully
is ignoring the outside. It's just social media's turned to
its own beast nowadays, and it doesn't take anything other
than one person have a strong opinion and that can
(23:54):
go viral and that feels like it's everyone's opinion, but
it's not. It was just one person's. Yeah, really hard
to kind of separate and just know that we have
to be confident in what we're doing. We have to
be confident in what we are doing, and then we
have to let the outside be noise because we know
what we're doing and that's not easy to do. But
we're trying our best and just each week trying to
get more confidence in it because we feel.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
Great where we're at, and I know I'm great where
I'm at with Kelsey.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
Yeah, I feel like when I was on the show,
there wasn't TikTok so that that in itself is its
own beast.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Yeah, in my mind, I thought you meant dancing. I
was like, what did you do?
Speaker 6 (24:30):
It's a short.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Stint, but it is like such its own because you're right.
It's like one person has a video goes viral and
then other people are like, hmmm, it's almost like.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
A thought starter, which is not fair.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
And Kelsey's handled I am such a Kelsey fan, like
me too on the show. I know, I know, but
like when she was on the show, I just like
love her and she's handled everything with so much grace
and humor and honesty and vulnerability. And I saw like
a video where someone said that but something was off
and She's like it was a hard time because it
(25:03):
was dedication night and it made me think of my
mom and it's like, no one knows what anyone's going in.
It's such an unfair like, it's so unfair that people
get to have that voice.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
Yeah, it's a glimpse.
Speaker 7 (25:16):
They get glimpses and then they make assumptions and majority
of the time it's going to be positive. But it
only takes one to kind of trigger what could be
a bigger.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
And not real problem. But yeah, it's again, it's all
new for us.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
People also need to forget that, need to not forget
that we came out of this in March of last year,
like we are not used to being a public couple.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
We were living normal lives.
Speaker 7 (25:39):
And I was more prepared than she was because, as
you know, going on the Bachelor, like you go in
just being like this is gonna be the experience of
a lifetime. I hope I find something out of this.
You don't expect to end up with the person. You
don't put that in your head of what my life
is going to change, Like she never I think when
she did that, I thought she would move to la
and have to be in the crowd every week on
Dancing with the Stars and dealing with all of this,
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so it's all new. It is a process, but she's
been amazing and I'm trying my best to help because
that's all I really can do.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Yeah, I think at the end of the day too,
people forget that, like we're all humans, you know what
I mean. It's like, I guess when you're you know,
watching Dancing with the Stars, you're like, oh, it's a
TV show. It's not it's not reality. It's like these
are characters. And I think at the end of the day,
it's like we're all human and like going through these things.
And I it's so interesting that you said put myself
in someone else's shoes, because you don't really do that,
(26:28):
especially when you're like watching a show or anything like that.
And at the end of the day, like we are
just navigating relationships, and like you said, you guys are
so new that it's like you're just navigating starting a
relationship and then being thrown into these like unreal situations,
you know what I mean. So it's like we're all
everyone's just like doing the best that they can and
(26:49):
like it's.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
It's funny because even after like five years of marriage
and almost eight years of being together THATLL and I
still get that. Like recently we got bombarded with all
of these comments because Val hasn't posted about me lately. Right,
people are like, heaven forbid?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Is everything okay?
Speaker 1 (27:06):
And I'm like, we are both full time working, we
are in week six of Dancing with the Stars, we're
also parents. We also want time for each other. Like
sorry that our first thought is not to post about
each other everything on social media. So it's you know what,
it's always going to be part of unfortunately, of your
relationship when you're in the public eye. But it's I
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love a secure couple, like I love a secure woman.
So like good for Kelsey. I love that she's outspoken
about it. We need more people like that in relationships.
So it's because it is, It's true.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
It's like a lot of people just put on this
facade and the like, you know, you don't really like
it's not they don't see the human side of it.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yeah, because it's so human. I was gonna ask if
roles were reversed and let's say Kelsey was with.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
Gleb oh Gleb, how would you how would you handle that?
Speaker 7 (27:57):
I think I've said this with Jenna too, and I'm
the first to admit I don't know, Like that's the
first thing I will always say, because I can't put
myself in that situation, and I can always try to
be in someone else's shoes, but I don't know what
Kelsey's actually feeling because I've never done it, so.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
I need to first start with that.
Speaker 7 (28:11):
But I would love to think that I would be
a really big supporter because I love seeing Kelsey succeed,
Like it's one of my favorite things to see how
excited she gets about stuff. So when I would picture it,
I would think about how much she'd be enjoying the process.
I would be the first one wanting to try to
be there on the sidelines and cheering and trying to
find ways to kind of boost her and make her feel.
Speaker 6 (28:29):
Confident what she's doing. But I don't know.
Speaker 7 (28:31):
I can't I can't put myself in that role. I
just hope that I would be able to be as
supportive as she's been to me.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Jennah, this is why you missed one of the greatest
seasons of the Bachelor.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I already know that he would like be so supportive
and love seeing her succeed like that at the end
of the day is what it's about. And yeah, I
could see you know.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
So Okay, I don't even know if you remember this,
but before you were the Bachelor, I met you at
a Jonahs Brother's concert, okay, okay, and so I remember,
like the ABC publicists were there and they introduced me
to you, and I hadn't watched The Bachelor a bauchel
arette and like, I don't I don't know at that point,
so I didn't know that you were the Bachelor, and
they were like, oh, this is the Bachelor. So I
(29:08):
started talking to you and I was like, oh my gosh,
Like within like that ten minute conversation, I was like
I love this guy. And I was there with one
of my girlfriends, and I was like, you need to
go talk to him like he's single, like he's about
to say the Bachelor, like he hasn't feeled it yet.
Speaker 7 (29:27):
It was That was actually really funny because that Jonah's
brother concert was like the first time I was able
to do stuff a little bit in public, because you
know how before you go on, they like try to
protect you and they pretty much told me not to
do anything like I was in Hawaii when I was
first starting, and then I went to my sister's place
in a Philly area and I was just really just
spending time with family and friends and not going out.
(29:48):
So that Jonah's brother was the first time I was
like intermingling with other people. And the amount of people
that came up that were still trying to get on
that season was actually hystair, but like.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
I got at least like it's never happened. I got
like six to eight passes.
Speaker 7 (29:59):
They're like, so like, if you were not going to
do the season, do you want to meet my friend?
I'm like, okay, this is happening now, Okay.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
I know.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
It was like literally within ten minutes of talking to you.
Speaker 6 (30:10):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Yeah, I just got like good vibes, good, like good
just like solid human from you.
Speaker 6 (30:16):
I appreciate. It's the best compment I can get.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
Yeah, I want to talk about wedding planning. Mm hmmm,
because Tonya is in the midst of wedding planning and
(30:41):
I wanted to see where where y'all are are their updates,
What's what's the plan?
Speaker 7 (30:46):
Yeah, I think it's updating every day kind of still
because we're trying to knock out little goals each time,
and our first goal is definitely figuring out where we
want to live, which sounds like the craziest thing to say,
but we just haven't had the ability to. We first,
we're coming off the show. Kelsey had a place that
she was staying at in New Orleans, and it just
made the most sense for me to kind of still
(31:08):
be where I was at in Philly, but come and
spend as much time with her as possible. She was
finishing our lease and we knew we were gonna go
somewhere after. But then I also knew at that time
getting off The Bachelor, that dancing was gonna be a possibility.
Speaker 6 (31:17):
So I was like, Kelse, I.
Speaker 7 (31:18):
Don't think we can probably lock down a place because
we might have to go temporarily be in LA for
a little bit. And we thought we were gonna go
to New York, but then she's like, maybe i'd be
open to LA. I was like, well, perfect, We'll come
here for dancing and see what that's going.
Speaker 6 (31:29):
To be like.
Speaker 7 (31:30):
And all of this is just still built to the
point of Okay, now we might want to stay in LA,
and I think that's our first goal is. I think
we are going to stay in la I think we're
gonna go a place as soon as we finally have
our first official place together. Then we're gonna start figuring
out what we want to do with wedding, because it's
just so hard to decide where you're going to have
it if you don't even know where you're living and
what you're doing.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
At the time.
Speaker 7 (31:51):
And I know that sounds crazy to say o loud,
but I think people forget how wild it is when
you get off the Bachelor and how you just you
got to figure out small life things before. And that's
why I said from the beginning I wanted a long
engagement because I knew. I just knew that it was
going to be chaotic, and if I tried to make
promises like we're going to pick a date at this
time or do this, it was just going to be
met with disappointment.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
And I didn't want that to be the case.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
I wanted to enjoy the planning process, and we just
haven't had the time to enjoy it just quite yet.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Well it's only been it hasn't even been a year.
Speaker 7 (32:20):
We are past the year where we met each other. Yeah,
when we met but we got engaged on November twelfth.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Okay, so we're getting close to the year.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
I know, is that crazy?
Speaker 2 (32:31):
We'll have you back in like a year.
Speaker 7 (32:33):
Is the easiest date ever to remember because it's eleven twelve,
twenty three.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Woah, that's cute.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
We added together in twenty days.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Forget peasure of the dates too, Like it's so funny.
You don't even realize this stuff when you're like wedding planning.
But I'm like I had a friend who like really
wanted to get rid of like nine to nineteen nineteen
ninety nine or not n sorry, nine nineteen twenty nineteen, okay,
And like there's so much pressure on like the date,
and then you're like, oh my gosh, like I don't
that's like the last thing that I thought about.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
You know what I mean, Like you know, well, we
were just talking about like venues and stuff before this,
and we wanted this venue so bad, and we had
a date that I was it was like perfect, it
was the perfect date, and then it fell through and
the only day they had available was the day after
my birthday and I was like, I am not sharing
my wedding anniversary with my birthday. That's just like an
(33:25):
easy out for.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
You, and I thought, that's you didn't do that right.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
We did it, and I actually kind of love it.
It's a great sealimtory weekend.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
I was so but listen, I.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
Was so pissed.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
I was like, it can't be this close to my birthday.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
I was so mad. But then it was so cute
because we had like a birthday dinner, our rehearsal dinner
for me, and then it was our wedding and that
was just like such a special time. But there's a
lot of pressure and I was like, how could I
have four twelve and four thirteen next to each other
for the rest of my life?
Speaker 7 (33:57):
Yeah, I'll be honest, I just want a date I
can remember. That's true that I am the worsted dates.
And I was just so excited that when I found out, like, no,
I can, I can do this like eleven plus twelve
egles twenty three. I'm like, I got that one. So
WA just going to try to find date that I
can remember so I don't miss the flowers in the
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car and the gates.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
I just need I need that. So that's the that's
the idea for me.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
You should just keep that as the date, like y'all
just do everything on that date.
Speaker 7 (34:26):
No, because then I'm sure she'll have the same reaction
that Jenna did. And she needs multiple days. I can't
combine them, so I'm probably gonna have to find another
one that I can remember.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
It's more pressure for Valve than anywhere, double double.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Tade every year since Wow, She's great?
Speaker 2 (34:44):
What has it been like dancing with Gin?
Speaker 5 (34:47):
And can you share anything about Gin and Sasha because
I am rooting for them romantically, but I really just
find myself rooting for her happy, like I think after
I think there's something about watching what she went through
on being ab that felt so devastating and I felt
mad for her that seeing her thrive and find this
like confidence and joy on Dance with the Stars has
(35:09):
been so beautiful. But I am feeling nosy.
Speaker 6 (35:12):
Yeah, I get the nosey part.
Speaker 7 (35:13):
I think a lot of people are knows you on
that one. We can be the first to explain that
we do not know as much as we as much
as we intermingle with all the different couples on the show,
it's like it's impossible to really like, we're not going
to ask those type of questions as much.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
As you see, we see different. Yeah, how you shifting
it right now? Hey?
Speaker 7 (35:34):
But as you said, for Jen, for her being on
the season, what we've always said and what I keep
focusing on is the fact of, like, that's so hard
to have what happened to her. That was my biggest
fear of being on the show is something not only
not working out, but then all the stuff that comes
along with it. And then I really i know from experienced,
like when you get off, you just sit in all
(35:54):
of your fields. Even when it works out, you think
about everything, you have so much time you're coming out
of the six experience that it's really hard, even when
it goes well, to like get yourself back to reality.
And this was probably the perfect thing for her, just
to dive into something else, because you just need something
to do, You need something to distract, you need something
to get you excited about. And from experience a dancer
(36:16):
with the stars, it really isn't a better experience to
just dive into and have so much fun with. So
I'm so grateful she gets this, and I'm grateful that's
been going well for her, And as you can tell.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
She like really loves it and enjoying it and like
you see her like thriving, which I think is especial
after coming off the season.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
It's like, so it's so empowered. You'll really have such
a great cast of people this year.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
It's awesome.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Maybe you could like set up like a nice little
romantic picnic or something for that, like.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
A candle and a candle.
Speaker 6 (36:53):
Pick, and we'll write a card from all four of
the US.
Speaker 7 (36:55):
This was just we talked about on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Yeah, it's simple.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
Are you watching Have you had time to watch Golden Bachelorette?
Speaker 7 (37:05):
Are you watching gold She's a mom, She's just like
she can't watch my season.
Speaker 6 (37:13):
Because I'm helping you. So you don't even have to
say it's not wrong.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
I am a mom. So when I get home, I'm
like doing bad time and bedtime and then.
Speaker 6 (37:21):
And then you plan stuff for me. I'm a child.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
I'm sure you watched T television right now?
Speaker 3 (37:27):
No?
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Really, not well No, I am like so focused on
what's at hand of the week or next week.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
I imagine how much time we would all have in
our days if we didn't watch any TV.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Like I think about that often actually.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
With my son. That's about it.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
That's a good one, though it could be worse.
Speaker 7 (37:47):
I think people forget how much like they always talk
about how tough it is on the celebrities, how much
time they have to put in, but no one actually
thinks about the pros too, because not only are they
putting in the exact amount of time, but they also
have to plan a course. Yeah, they have to do
extra practices because they have opening numbers.
Speaker 6 (38:03):
Like her schedule is ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (38:05):
That I'm shocked she doesn't have time to do all
the other things she does, So I don't take it personally.
Speaker 5 (38:10):
That's but your future father in law went home last
night and I was so sad.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
But does could there be a Golden Bachelor opportunity?
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (38:25):
Possibly, I think there always is a chance, you know
how it works. They take time to kind of make
that decision. And I think now that everyone knows that
Mark isn't with Joan, people are rooting for him, as
they should because he's just an amazing man. But yeah,
I think what I take from that experience for him
is he talked about in the most eloquent way possible
because it's Mark. It's just like he gained so much
(38:46):
from this and he was so grateful, and I think
it did more for him than he could have imagined.
And I think he's ready to, as he said, like
kind of start his life again and really push himself
to be open to finding someone and just keep having
amazing experiences what that show does. So I'm rooting for
him whatever that means, if it's another opportunity with the show,
if it's just him putting himself out there and finding
someone and starting to go on dates and hopefully finding
(39:08):
someone to spend more time with.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
So what a crazy thing though, to be able to
experience something that your daughter went through, like your future.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
Yeah, it's just so crazy.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
She was the Golden Bachelor. You'd give him all would.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
I would they need to do this.
Speaker 7 (39:28):
I would request to be like his assistant, like I
would go on it with him and I would sit
with him and just make sure someone was protecting him
in all.
Speaker 6 (39:36):
Foss because he just it's a crazy experience.
Speaker 7 (39:39):
And I know they do such a great job, but
the golden side of the franchise is keeping it very wholesome.
So I would be all supportive of it if they
did choose to, But I'll do whatever Mark wants to do.
Because that man deserves the world. So whatever he does,
I'm going to support it.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
He's precious.
Speaker 6 (39:53):
No, he's the best.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
I do want to talk, though, Jenna, about your schedule
because I think that, No, I think that like a mom,
Like you're women now, like we're multifaceted, we're hype.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
What's it called hyper? What's the multi hyphen its? Thank
you so much?
Speaker 3 (40:08):
So it's like you are You're a you're working, you're working,
you're a mom, you're a friend, you're this, you're a wife,
Like you have all of these things on your plate.
Like what does I don't want to say an average
day look like, because I guess every day of the
week is probably different, but like, yeah, give us like
one of your busiest.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
Days, Like what that kind of looks like today?
Speaker 5 (40:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (40:27):
Yeah, today that works.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
So today's unique. But today started at five forty five.
I had glam, we did press, we did KTLA this morning.
Then we're obviously doing this wonderful podcast. We have like
an hour and then we head straight to our own
individual rehearsal, which is one to five, and then we
are actually shooting something for our package next week, which
is a cute little double date. Uh, with me, Val
(40:51):
Kelsey and Joey. So we're shooting something for that and
that's going to be after rehearsal, which is probably like
six to nine. All while, like my son woke up
at seven, I have to give him his bottle, you know,
get him out of bed. I want to make sure
that I'm always the person to do that or put
him to bed. So it's just crazy. But then I'm
also having to do fittings, zoom call, creative zoom calls,
(41:13):
we do interviews. It's just nuts us, absolutely nuts. But
and like I feel like my family sometimes they know
not to really text or call me and take it
offensively if I don't answer while I'm in season, because
I just it's hard to keep up.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Yeah, And like.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Sometimes I won't respond to Joey's text if he texts
me at night, and then I'll like look at my
phone and it's ten pm and I'm like, oh my gosh,
I'm so sorry I didn't see this that I was
putting room to bed or i was doing bath time.
So it's a lot to like try to feel like
myself and not like I'm spread too thin. But I'm
also so proud that I can do all of these
things and feel like I'm giving myself to all of
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them because I love I love what I do. I
love working, I love choreographing, I love dancing, I love
being a mom, I love being a WiFi. I can
be so much better, but it's it's it's hard in
these three months. It's like a little bubble that I
just have to prepare myself, like this is going to
be insanity, but you can do it, and then it's
going to be Christmas. So yeah, I really enjoyed to say.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
You're an inspiration, like honestly, because I do think, like
you know, I think that as women, we do have
all of these wants, you know, like I don't have
a kid of my own.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
I want very soon.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
But it's like that is another thing that's like scary
because it's like I don't know what that means for
like my professional life, and like you know what I mean,
it's like it's like this weird little dance that we
have to do, and so it's.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
You can do it, I'll see. Yeah, it's from what
I've like, it's hard and sometimes uncomfortable and you have
to overplan. But I knew going into motherhood that I
wanted to still work, and that was really part of
my identity and something that gave me so much happiness.
So I always know i'd be a working mom, but
I've learned that you're able to accomplish so much and
somehow you have energy to do it. I don't know how,
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because I don't. I really feel like I don't sleeve
a ton, but it makes all of these moments so fulfilling,
and I feel like I'm so much more present in
life in all aspects because I really know, like I
don't want to take this for granted. I'm so grateful
to have it. So, yeah, what is it?
Speaker 5 (43:11):
What is your life when you're not on like when
this when Dancing with the Stars isn't airing or being
filmed or whatever.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
What does life look like for you?
Speaker 1 (43:18):
It's a lot more chill.
Speaker 5 (43:21):
No.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
My husband and I, you know, we we have different
things that we do. We also work for like conventions,
so we teach on the weekends. We're constantly traveling. We'll
do gigs here and there. We've done the Dancing with
the Stars tour, which is another beast. So yeah, it's
it's a lot different and we kind of get to
determine our own schedule, which is nice. So I think
that's why we we have the stamina to get through
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these three months, because we know it's a bit more
chill once we're out of it.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
It's it's incredible that schedule just gave me so much stress.
I thought about the few errands I have to run
today and I was like.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
The box and home goods today.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Relax.
Speaker 6 (44:00):
Wait.
Speaker 5 (44:01):
So I had a question about the songs. Do they
give you the songs or do you get to choose
the songs, Like as you're creating the dance, is it
like you choose the song?
Speaker 2 (44:10):
How does that work?
Speaker 6 (44:10):
It's kind of a mix.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
It's it kind of depends on what the theme is
that we bring in a theme.
Speaker 7 (44:16):
And then I remember when I first came on, they
like talked about some of the themes they had and
they're like, give us some ideas of like songs you
would like to do along with it. But it never
like works out perfectly. You can't just be like I
want to do Taylor Swift every week, like this doesn't happen.
You have to make sure it fits and then you
have to kind of find out a way to make
it meaningful. To you what we love so far, I
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mean feel really good about the first like.
Speaker 6 (44:39):
Five songs we've done.
Speaker 7 (44:40):
Is we've wanted it to be powerful, each one to
have something, and it's hard because it's I don't know.
It's like when someone asks you, like, what's your favorite song,
Like that's so hard to come up with. It's the
same thing when you ask for like a theme. It's
just you got to find something that not only means
a lot to you, but then you feel like it's
gonna be powerful. I feel strong that she's gonna be
able to make good choreography to that. That's where she
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comes in the most.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
So if it's if you say something good, you do that, yeah,
so I don't think so, I know it's a weird thing.
Speaker 4 (45:09):
And if you knock on your forehead and you say, what.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
I almost started doing that, there you go at least day.
Speaker 5 (45:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Yeah, it really depends well. Also, and you have to
do a different style each week. Yes, so you want
to do a song that you love that fits within
the theme, but then you have to do a different
genre of like we have to do a fox drop
or a tango or a Latin style. So it is
hard to find that something that fits all of those boxes.
But we've we've been able to.
Speaker 6 (45:40):
Do that so far.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
It so far.
Speaker 7 (45:41):
Yeah, I feel great about it, and it's it's just
it's a part of the whole process of trying to
make sure it all works out too.
Speaker 6 (45:47):
But it's mostly her. I just listen to what she says.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
What are you working on right now with dance?
Speaker 6 (45:52):
Well, we have Disney Night coming up, so it's gonna
be a fun one.
Speaker 7 (45:56):
We can't say exactly yet what song it is and
what movie, but I don't think we can.
Speaker 6 (46:02):
When does it get announced?
Speaker 2 (46:03):
The color dress you wear?
Speaker 6 (46:08):
I will be shirtless, that's what we can say. Yeah,
I'll be shirtless and I'll be wearing a wig. Have
you been two together.
Speaker 5 (46:17):
Over?
Speaker 6 (46:18):
No, not a lot.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
This is a full, a full shirtless moment, Tarzan. We
don't know.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
How does it feel to bear it all like that?
Speaker 4 (46:29):
Did you ever think?
Speaker 5 (46:31):
No?
Speaker 7 (46:31):
I'll bring him back to week one because it was
Jenna's brilliant idea. She's like, there's a moment in this
dance where you could definitely rip your shirt off.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
I was like, what, we just met each other.
Speaker 6 (46:40):
He was like, I don't know what.
Speaker 7 (46:41):
I've never done that before She's like, no, it's great,
they'll put a girl on your shirt. You'll just take
it out and it'll be awesome. Like okay, like let's
try to find.
Speaker 6 (46:48):
The time in it.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
And then you were a meme everywhere.
Speaker 7 (46:52):
It was a great idea. But the funny thing is
I didn't get a chance to practice that until that day.
Speaker 6 (46:56):
Remember we did it like that.
Speaker 7 (46:58):
I think it's time to finally just the shirt off
because you would like do like the action of it.
And then she's like, no, you're gonna need to bring
a shirt in that you can actually rip off.
Speaker 6 (47:07):
And and then then that I was gonna say that was.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
Kind of when I felt like we knew, like, oh,
Joey's gonna be in this competition.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
He's like ready to embrace.
Speaker 4 (47:15):
You're like here I am.
Speaker 5 (47:17):
He's not just gonna get votes because everyone loves him,
They're gonna he's gonna get votes.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
Yeah, when all this is said and done, when this
season is done, who are the people that you're going
to keep in touch with for me on besides each other?
Speaker 7 (47:30):
Yeah, definitely, I honestly cannot wait to keep this friendship.
But she's the best her in vow, I hope I
get to be in their lives for the rest of
it because they are amazing.
Speaker 6 (47:44):
Uh, Alona is the best.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
I love.
Speaker 7 (47:47):
Alona is everything you would imagine she is and more.
I will annoy her for the rest of my life
because I just love her. Honestly, A lot of the
other pros to Brandon, Alan, everyone everyone on the show
has been great, but yeah, the first one that comes
in my own mind is I just love a Loe.
Speaker 4 (48:04):
We've grown a.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
Weird connection with them, Like I feel like we're always
rehearsing at the same exact time, so they become our
rehearsal buddies where they'll come in Alan will help me
with showing Joey something, I'll help him with like a lift,
showing alone of something. So we've really created this awesome
like friendship and bond with them that has been Yeah, special.
Speaker 7 (48:23):
It's been awesome and everyone this season it's just truthfully
going to be. It's the same thing with the Bachelor
stuff too, Like the longer you're in the competition, the
more time you spend with them.
Speaker 6 (48:32):
So I don't know who we're.
Speaker 7 (48:33):
Gonna get close with, because hopefully we're going to be
here for the long haul and those a gonna be
the people who are going to keep seeing So that's
just part of it.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
I remember when I follow on Alona.
Speaker 5 (48:42):
I saw I clicked on her profile and TikTok and
it said follow back, and I was like, star strug.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
This was like when she first like went viral at
the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (48:50):
Yes and follow her first?
Speaker 6 (48:53):
Well, no, she wasn't the best feeling ever when you
see the.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
Okay, I was stoked. So I hope she follows me.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
They didn't follow you first?
Speaker 4 (49:10):
Yeah, I hate it.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
I'm like, okay, where can people follow you? Where can
people see what you're doing?
Speaker 5 (49:17):
I feel like everyone's probably, I mean our listeners are
so I feel like this season specifically, people are like
obsessed this season specifically of Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
They're like all in, But where can people who may
not be following you back?
Speaker 1 (49:32):
The obvious is they can tune in every Tuesday to
Dancing with the Stars and continue to vote Joey yes,
And then on socials, I'm at Jenna Johnson and I'm
at Joey easy peasy.
Speaker 4 (49:46):
Thank you so much for.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
Yeah, we love you, guys are rooting for you all
and hopefully the next time.
Speaker 4 (49:55):
Good luck to Yeah, I'm so excited. I'm going to
start doing this all the time.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
YEAHAH can wait to see how your life.
Speaker 4 (50:07):
We're about to track our next podcast, so you watch out.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
It's gonna be allowed to tell Kelsey you had a
great time, because I would love to have her scrub it.
Speaker 7 (50:16):
I guess we're going to be in l A, so
we'll definitely find a time we can all link up
with great tracking out.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
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Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya rt An iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
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Speaker 3 (00:09):
In scrub adub dub with two tub atub tubs.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
Oh you know why because we have a tub and
then our guests have a tub.
Speaker 5 (00:18):
Oh I see, Yeah, two tubs, one.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Podcast, one O R you like that?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah, I am so excited about our guests today.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
Tell me I have been wanting them on the podcast
for a few weeks now.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
No more than that, because you were getting Joey for
like a month.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
I wanted Joey since he was a Bachelor. Yeah, but
now that he's with Jenna, I wanted them as a duo.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
And now today we have them as a duo. They're
in the.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Ballroom, They're on the dance floor. On the dance floor,
Jenna is always on the dance floor. Joey is right
off of his stint on The Bachelor. Not right off,
but yeah, it feels feels right off.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
It's fresh enough.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Yeah, it's very fresh.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
And they are crushing it this season.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
Yeah, and I cannot wait to ask them all the questions.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
So please welcome Jenna Johnson Schmerkovsky and Joey Grosseta.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Started.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
We are so excited that y'all are here today because
I've been dying to talk to y'all and I'm so
happy what made this happen.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
Very excited to be here.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yes, where do we begin?
Speaker 4 (01:26):
It's tough.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
Before we started, you were saying that Jenna is superstitious,
and she kind of scoffed. But there seems to be
some repetition in rituals, and I was curious what those are.
Speaker 7 (01:42):
There's just like a bunch of little things that, again,
like if you're in a sports background, anything like superstition
is a normal thing. But we put on grips on
the bottom of our shoes to help with dancing. And
if I ever would give her my left foot first
to put the grip on, she would kill me because
it has to be right foot first. Every time she
puts a battery and mike pack on, if it's not
(02:02):
on her right side, she will tell the team, hey,
I'm sorry, not left side has to be right side.
Speaker 6 (02:09):
Therapy. It's just little details of things that.
Speaker 7 (02:13):
Again, I think she's just in a routine and needs
the repetition and needs to feel comfortable with it.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
And I'm just along for the ride and making sure,
I don't mess with what the routine and the rituals are.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (02:24):
I'm here for you.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Have you joined her in the superstition?
Speaker 6 (02:27):
I mean, yeah, it's if it works, we're sticking with it.
Never give you the left shoe first, it's always right
shoe first.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
Is it as extensive as like wearing the same like
underwear and stuffery you pretty.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I'm not that crazy, but no, it's just like little
routines that have become part of this experience for me
on the show that I'm like, that works for me,
I'm going to stick with it. Also, I married a
Russian and they're like severely, severely superstitious, like everything is
a thing, Like if you even have a good thought,
(03:00):
you have to like knock on your head and say too.
It's the thing in Russian. Yeah, so like my mother
in law like heaven forbid you jinx anything good.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
It's weird.
Speaker 7 (03:10):
I'm also extremely sarcastic, and we'll say like dumb things
a lot of time, like I hope I don't roll
my ankle today, and she will just like.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
Everywhere.
Speaker 7 (03:20):
So it's been a funny kind of dynamic that we
have because I say the wrong thing almost every day
and then it just gets her a little bit off,
as you can see from thee.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
But so you're saying you do it because it's like
your family, it's your mother in law.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
It's not just in the ballroom like you know it
every day.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
It intensified when I married my husband. Yeah, it's like,
obviously you know they're Ukrainian, but like just Europeans in general,
I think they have the superstitious nature and so it's
become part of my life. I should see somebody about that,
maybe basically, yes, yeah, maybe Vell needs to Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
I feel like as a viewer I have been so
I was shocked at how good you are.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Did you know that you had it in you?
Speaker 7 (04:07):
Not entirely, I've said it a lot, like I played
drums growing up, as people found out, and like I've
always really loved music, so I've always been really good
at listening and understanding music. I guess I think back
to when we did the first like part of the experience,
we did some type of bumper for the show and
we had to actually freestyle dance, and.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
It was horrible, Like I was so bad.
Speaker 7 (04:29):
But the one thing Jenna did say to me, was like, no,
but like you're even though you're doing it bad, you
were hitting the beat every time of when you're supposed
to move, and she's like, there's something in there, and
now I can really just listen to her and find
out what I'm supposed to do when the beat actually comes.
But I've always been at least able to like hear
and listen to it, and I think that probably is
the thing I brought into play. And besides that, I'm
(04:51):
just really listening what she says. But I didn't know
how I was going to perform. I didn't know a
lot of things, and I'm just very happy that it's
been going well so far.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Was it hard for you because you're a co your
tennis coach, so like being the one who's typically teaching
everyone in the right form and how to do it.
Was it hard for you to kind of let that
coach mentality down?
Speaker 7 (05:10):
No, because I actually love the process of learning something
new as like a teaching pro for tennis too. A
lot of times I'm a lefty, so a lot of
times I teach people like, yeah, I'm rioty, okay, So
then you have to teach people a lot righty so
I actually early on we kind of noticed as like
a trick for tennis is like I would actually try
(05:32):
to hit the ball a lot of times, ready to
know what it feels like for that person and try
to use my opposite hand, and like, I enjoy the
idea of feeling uncomfortable because then you actually understand what
it's like as someone coming and trying to do something new.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
And it's a very like take that and like take
that into like a little bit of like a microcosm
what a great partner now, Like.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
But that's why I think he is so great. There
isn't ego involved, and I don't like to learn something new.
I don't think many people enjoy being like not good
at something immediately. So he's really great at taking it
all in and being able to receive feedback and loves
the idea of repetition and knows that the progress is
going to happen if we keep doing it, if he keeps,
(06:13):
you know, listening to feedback. So I think that's why
he is such a great student. Maybe that teacher background,
I think, but also yeah, musicality, there's there's so many
great things about it.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Are you like that in your personal life.
Speaker 7 (06:26):
I think I've always enjoyed trying new things. But I think,
as everyone else, like once you get good at something,
you kind of keep doing it. So I like, golf
is my new thing that I love so much, and
I'm great some days. I suck others, and it's not
fun to be bad at something, but I do enjoy
trying to do new things and dance with something I've
always been interested in. So yeah, I don't know, I
think just this process, and I really will say it's
(06:49):
having her as a coach, Like it makes it so
much easier to have her every time be the one
that's helping me through it because I don't know, we've
kind of figured out a way to like Wednesdays and
Thursdays are hard, and we know they're hard, but then
I just see us kind of build each day and
it's it makes it feel like you can actually trust
the process of it.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
No, But I mean, like when you said that you
like to see things from other people's perspectives and like
do it that way. I'm like, that's like the dream,
Like that's what anybody wants like their partner to say,
like in your romantic life too, Like I want to
see this from your perspectives.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Put myself in your ship.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
I think about others a lot more than myself.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
That's just that's double edged sword.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
Yeah, yeah, it works good.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
And so yeah, yeah, Jenna, did you when you met
like how?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Oh this was my question. I don't know if you
can share this. But in terms of who your partner is,
do you have any say in it?
Speaker 4 (07:38):
I wish really you don't get any even like seniority.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
No, no, I mean I think they tried to mix
it up. So if you've had like an amazing couple
of seasons, you know they'll distribute, so everybody has an opportunity,
but there's no say it's really our casting director has
everything to do with it. So yeah, the luck of
the draw. When you walk in there, you're like, all right,
(08:02):
well this is what this is what I'm dealing with
for the next couple of months. So you're dealing with
that terrible word.
Speaker 7 (08:07):
But like, well, I think the other part that's crazy
too is every season they don't really even know how
the celebrities are going to be too. Like people could
come and being like yeah I can dance, or like
I don't know if I'm going to be good like
no one knows until you get to start the process,
so it is kind of hard to also match up.
They do know, like obviously this season chan they're coming in,
I think they knew that girl knew how to dance, right, But.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
Then everyone else they don't know how they're going to
kind of go through the process, which is hard.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Our casting director, Dina Cat she's incredible and she knows
all of us pros inside and out. She knows our personalities,
our heights. You know, there's so many variables that go
into it. But she really really.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Blessed me this season, so forever grateful.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
Well, they say, like, do you just take a deep
breath when you like get who you're gonna Yeah, you
saw him doing his freestyle, even though he says it
was not good horrible, but you were like, I see
potential that this could this could really work.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
I So we met and I didn't watch the season
of The Bachelor, so sorry, you know really I know, Well, okay,
so I heard the same thing from so many people,
and my sister is like a mega Bachelor fan, and
so she was like he is the greatest guy, like
the nicest guy. Everyone loved him, and I was like okay, awesome,
(09:20):
and he's athletic, you know, he plays tennis. I'm like, sick.
Does that translate?
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Let's try.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
And then we met each other and the same day
we had like our big Dancing with the Star's promo shoot.
And it's such an uncomfortable day because it's like nine
hours stuck together. I'm in full spray Tan Ryan Stones.
We're just like and they're like just like dance together
and it's so awkward and vulnerable, and he had such
a great attitude about it. He just kind of like
(09:46):
giggled the whole time. And then they made him freestyle
by himself like ten times as a professional dancer, I
would get uncomfortable freestyling for as long as they made him.
And he was like kind of hitting the time and
like doing fun, groovy moves, and I was like, wait,
what's happening. So I got really excited then, and I
(10:08):
think we just immediately like clicked as well. We have
a similar i don't know, not personality, but we just
kind of got along VI yeah, yeah, good vibes. So
it made me really motivated. And then I just wanted
to like shock people because they had no expectations for him.
To be a dancer, and he's not a dancer, but
I think he's just like that perfect candidate for this
(10:30):
show where he's just going to embrace it. And each
week I feel like you've done that where you kind
of just shocked people and we're like, oh my gosh,
how did he do that?
Speaker 5 (10:37):
Well? I feel like that's the fun part of watching
the show is. And it's fun to watch someone who's
a really good dancer dance obviously, but it's really fun
to watch someone that has no background in dancing come
on and surprise everybody to where you're like, oh my gosh,
you just needed a coach, you just needed a good partner.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
It's like that beautiful Cinderella story where you like watch
the journey and see the transformation you're like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
So yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I think that's why people also are really drawn to
you on the show, is seeing his growth and seeing
him even from week one, I feel like he's gotten
so much better as a dancer naturally, So you're welcome.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Is it like such a crazy kind of like vortex
that you're thrown into because it's like you you both
have lives, like you're in relationships, you have lives going on,
and then you get thrown into this like this almost
like a bootcam.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yeah, it's a bubble for sure. It's a big three
months worth of a bubble.
Speaker 7 (11:28):
It's a big like a lotted amount of time you
just get It's it just takes all your focus too, Like, yeah,
I'm dreaming about dancing now, I don't even dream like
I'm just going to bed. I'm like think about the
dancer the night before, and it's just yeah, it just
it takes up a lot of your mental space and everything.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
But it's so much fun.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
They do such a good job on this show making
everyone feel so comfortable. There is this kind of family aspect,
So as much as you're getting pulled out of your
normal lives, it's so nice to have the actual process
be so enjoyable too.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Which has been harder was The Bachelor being the Bachelor
or Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
I would say they're just different. It's hard to compare.
I think the Bachelor, as you know, is such a
I don't want to use the word invasion. It's just
like it's your personal life, Like you're putting yourself out
there and talking so much about your feelings and you're
possibly going to end up with someone that could be
your forever partner. So there's so much that is at
stake with something like that that puts a lot of
(12:20):
pressure on yourself. But then this is so different because
it's the competition side, the performance side.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
You're you're finding.
Speaker 7 (12:26):
Out new things about yourself, You're doing something so uncomfortable,
something that you've.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
Never done before.
Speaker 7 (12:31):
I'd say the physical and mental part of this is different,
but it is almost harder because the nice part about
the Bachelors I could just be myself and just hope
that what I was doing was going to at least work,
and I didn't have to think as much. I would say,
like I just kind of just did me and just
hoped it worked out.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
I'm thinking every day.
Speaker 7 (12:49):
Doing this, whether it's dancing, whether it's like, Okay, now
I have to actually go perform, and like ignore the
fact this is live television.
Speaker 6 (12:56):
Is so much harder to do, so much harder to do.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
That's what I feel like would be the really hard
part is that in a rehearsal room, you're like, I've
got this down, like I know it like the back
of my hand, and then you put an audience and
cameras and the live element to it, and it's just
like this unparalleled sense of pressure and performance. And I'm
curious about because you brought up chemistry. Have y'all had
chemistry as soon as you know y'all met and you
(13:20):
know it's gonna be good vibes. Have you had a
situation where you met your partner and it was you
were just like, we don't have it, but I'm gonah.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
For sure, for sure, And that is so scary because
there are a lot of things that happen live in
our performance. Like I feel like every time we've danced
on the show, something has happened, like something new has happened.
And if you don't have that trust, you don't have
that like, oh, we we'll fix this and we'll just
and we'll trust each other because we both know that,
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like we're on the same page. So if you don't
gel or vibe, it's really hard to have that trust
in such a high pressure, intense situation. We're like, oh,
we're gonna make this work because I have no idea
where his head's at.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Yeah, So I.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Feel like we have we have that like yeah, I
mean connection where we're like, okay, yeah, I slipped, but
you're gonna grab me.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
We can use this last week as an example too,
Like we going into that dance, it was it felt
so great during practice, like it was probably the most
confident we've ever been going into like a Monday and
Tuesday we started doing practice runs and it just never
hit something was wrong with it, and we were like
trying to figure out why it didn't feel good when
we got on the ballroom dance floor and it started
to get better on Tuesday, but there was just something
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about we knew that there was something there that we
could fix. We talked about in the trailer before we
got out there, and we're like, we're gonna figure it out.
Like regardless, we trust each other, We're going to figure
it out. And that makes a huge difference because if
we didn't have a good relationship and connection, I probably
was gonna be in my head so much going into that.
But I do remember that moment right before we just
like look at each other, we smiled and let's enjoy
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this dance.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
We know this dance we can do it.
Speaker 7 (14:55):
And that is huge to have before you get out
there because it's scary, it really is.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Yeah, y'all are like throwing like you're throwing her around,
and y'all are jumping all over each other.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
And honestly, I could never do it.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Besides, just like the two of you being in this
wartex are you do you hang out with the other
cast members or do you like look at them like
you're my competition stay away or are you like more friendly?
Speaker 7 (15:32):
You can speak on this because of the show different
You talk about it from like your perspective of how
it usually is on the show, and I'll explain what
it's like being in my position, because I think that's
a little different.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I think it's hard because we do have our own
individual lives and I'm also I've been with the pros
on the show for years and years and years, so
we have that like friendship. We've seen each other at
the best and the worst of times. We've gone on
tour together. So during the season, I don't feel like
we're like hanging out outside of practice. We see each
other every day. But it is fun to like get
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to know the new celebrities each season and build those relationships.
I think you live at an apartment with some of them,
so you probably see them outside of the studio more
than I do. But it is nice to build these friendships,
in these bonds because they do last a lifetime.
Speaker 7 (16:16):
It's weird too, because we do see each other sometimes
where we stay and like you run into them and
you get to have these little hellos and sometimes you
get to hang out with them. But as you guys know,
there's so much time you put into it that the
time we actually see them hang out is during rehearsals.
Because we're all at the same studio. You'll sometimes connect
and talk with them for.
Speaker 6 (16:33):
A little bit.
Speaker 7 (16:34):
I will say the coolest part about this show is
there's something about everyone doing something uncomfortable that there's not
really rooting against each.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
Other energy, at least from this season.
Speaker 7 (16:45):
Like, yeah, you want to have the best score of
the night, but that's under your control, that's not under theirs.
And when you see someone maybe have a falter or a mistake,
you can feel everyone being like, no, no, you got this,
like and pumping them up because when they come up
on that skybox and you can tell they're disappointed, the
last thing you want to do is rub it in
their face. You want to get them and tell them
how great it was, and like focus on this part
and that part, and I don't know, there's a camaraderie
(17:07):
that comes out of it that is really cool because
it is a competition show, but there's something about it.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
That's just no though.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
I think it is unique to this season as well,
not like we've had like villains on other seasons. But
there is the cast the season, for some reason, is
such a good cohesive group. Everybody's really positive. I think
maybe too because there's a lot of athletes, so there
is that like rooting for each other, yeah, and wanting
to see each other succeed. But it's really beautiful because
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you don't get to see this part, but when a
couple's dancing, Joey mentioned this thing called the skybox, and
that's where Julianne's standing where she gives the scores, but
that's where the rest of us are watching, and we're
like watching on this balcony and we all collect and
watch whoever's going next and cheer loud for them, and
it's kind of special, Like I got she was thinking
about it. When else do you get to see that?
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So it's really really sweet. But this cast in general,
I think is one of the sweetest all around sweetest.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
We've got a great group, and I will say I
think each week it changes, you know, like people are
starting to really pay attention to the scores. I think
everyone feels like they have a chance to win it
this year. So because of that, it is getting more competitive,
but it's been fun to still see that there's there's
some friendliness.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
To it still too.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Yeah, it's like, how do you avoid the competitional element
when it's such a tight race. You know, you literally
can't escape from the competition because you are married to
pro vow Yeah, and so you're in it twenty four
to seven. What is it like when y'all get home
and if it's is there, is it like camaraderie?
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Turn it off?
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Like is it something that you can just like turn
off and you're like, Okay, I'm home now, Like put
that hat away.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
So you know, Valin I met on the show, and
there is no rule book on how to be married
or engaged to or dating somebody that you work with
that is, there's no like guidelines to it. So we've
over the years had to figure out how we know
navigate it and how we separate the two. And I
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think at first we would take it home and we
would like really mentally go over it and be like
so stressed and bring it into our personal life. Not
in a negative way, it just like was constantly about work, work,
And I think now that we've been married for a
little bit and now we have a son, there is
a turn off. It is when I'm home, I'm mom,
I'm dad. You know, we're really engaged with our son.
(19:25):
But he's vow so amazing. He always wants to see
my video so he can give me tips and pointers
and things to like remind Joey about. And then when
he's at the studio at the same time, he'll come
into our rehearsal and like see how we're doing. We'll
do show and tells with him and Phaedra. So you know,
I think people are always like, oh, is it like
cut throat at your house and you're like, I want
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to win, But it's really opposite of that. But we've
had to have years and years of navigating that and
like trying to figure it out. But I love that
we are such an anomaly of like who else can
say that they compete on a television show against their
spouse year after a year.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
It's fun it's so cool.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
It's like I can't even imagine it because it's like
you think about you know, like you get home at
the end of the day and you like ask your partner,
like how your day was.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
It's like a totally different day. You know, I had
some business calls, you know, what did you do?
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Like, Oh, my day was good.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
But it's like you guys are like in it. You're
like living and breathing the same thing.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Similar days. Yeah, under high stress, Yeah, same timeline, like
and we both then have to go perform live with
our partners. Yeah. It's pretty unique, but it's it's awesome. Yeah,
I love it.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Is it does it help you being married being in
the same industry that helps with the I guess I'm
gonna get to the Kelsey of it all like with this,
because I personally would have a really hard time watching
my girlfriend but in this environment and like spending that
(20:51):
much time away and it's so intimate and you're like
with this person and you're doing these sexy dances. Does
it help you, like mentally being in the industry as him,
knowing kind of what the process is like, do you
think it would be harder for you if you weren't in.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
It, absolutely for sure, and I think people have to
realize that I've also been on the receiving end of it,
so you know, like even when we were dating or engaged,
like beals had some hot partners. But I understand this
dance as a sport right right, and the artistry of it,
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and I know that you have to have connection. And
then I've also had you know, really awesome partners where
he's been on the receiving end of it. So I
think it definitely helps that we're in the same industry
and we understand what the end goal is, right and
what it takes to get there. So I yeah, but
I can I have a lot of empathy for people
(21:47):
who are girlfriends or boyfriends that come on the show
and they are supportive and they want to see their
partners succeed because it does take a lot of strength
and a lot of trust. But that's why you know,
I beginning at the season, the season with Joey, I
kind of said to him, like, the more open we
can be and involve Kelsey and make her feel part
(22:08):
of it, so there's nothing like hidden, I think, the
better like be part of this experience. So there doesn't
feel like there's this like hidden Oh what's going on?
And you know, the imagination goes to town, but like
be so proud to show her, so then she feels
proud and excited about it. So yeah, it's so hard
(22:28):
because I understand. I mean, we're kind of desensitized as
dancers to it because this is just our work and
we do this year after year with somebody and our
end goal is to make the best dance possible. There's
no other motive, right, So it is hard, and I
think this is the ultimate question that we guess get
asked all the time. But I'll let Joey speak after, like,
now having experienced it and understanding.
Speaker 7 (22:51):
Yeah, what it takes, I think it's a really interesting
situation and something I knew coming in. As you said,
people have always talked about from the show. You spend
a lot of time with them, you get intimate and dances,
and it's like, how does that work with a relationship too,
And I'll be the first timuit that I'm still figuring
it out because I'm trying my best to be open
to share everything, like she said, but it still as
hard that I'm not able to be with Kelsey as
(23:11):
much as I would like to, because it's such a
time restriction that we're putting in. But yeah, she said
it perfectly. It's about being open, it's about talking through it.
Like every time I come home, Kelsey sees me so
excited about dance, and if I don't explain why I'm excited,
it can, as you said, imagination can run forever.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
But I'm like, no, I'm just really stoked.
Speaker 7 (23:28):
We smashed our dance today and I show her the
wide that we took in the video and being like,
this is what it's looking like.
Speaker 6 (23:33):
Now.
Speaker 7 (23:33):
We worked on this today, and I need to work
on this and that. And sometimes they'll pick her up
and I'll do the dance with her so like she
can feel what it's like, and it's just that kind
of stuff. I think the hardest part about this, truthfully
is ignoring the outside. It's just social media's turned to
its own beast nowadays, and it doesn't take anything other
than one person have a strong opinion and that can
(23:54):
go viral and that feels like it's everyone's opinion, but
it's not. It was just one person's. Yeah, really hard
to kind of separate and just know that we have
to be confident in what we're doing. We have to
be confident in what we are doing, and then we
have to let the outside be noise because we know
what we're doing and that's not easy to do. But
we're trying our best and just each week trying to
get more confidence in it because we feel.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
Great where we're at, and I know I'm great where
I'm at with Kelsey.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
Yeah, I feel like when I was on the show,
there wasn't TikTok so that that in itself is its
own beast.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Yeah, in my mind, I thought you meant dancing. I
was like, what did you do?
Speaker 6 (24:30):
It's a short.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Stint, but it is like such its own because you're right.
It's like one person has a video goes viral and
then other people are like, hmmm, it's almost like.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
A thought starter, which is not fair.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
And Kelsey's handled I am such a Kelsey fan, like
me too on the show. I know, I know, but
like when she was on the show, I just like
love her and she's handled everything with so much grace
and humor and honesty and vulnerability. And I saw like
a video where someone said that but something was off
and She's like it was a hard time because it
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was dedication night and it made me think of my
mom and it's like, no one knows what anyone's going in.
It's such an unfair like, it's so unfair that people
get to have that voice.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
Yeah, it's a glimpse.
Speaker 7 (25:16):
They get glimpses and then they make assumptions and majority
of the time it's going to be positive. But it
only takes one to kind of trigger what could be
a bigger.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
And not real problem. But yeah, it's again, it's all
new for us.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
People also need to forget that, need to not forget
that we came out of this in March of last year,
like we are not used to being a public couple.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
We were living normal lives.
Speaker 7 (25:39):
And I was more prepared than she was because, as
you know, going on the Bachelor, like you go in
just being like this is gonna be the experience of
a lifetime. I hope I find something out of this.
You don't expect to end up with the person. You
don't put that in your head of what my life
is going to change, Like she never I think when
she did that, I thought she would move to la
and have to be in the crowd every week on
Dancing with the Stars and dealing with all of this,
(26:00):
so it's all new. It is a process, but she's
been amazing and I'm trying my best to help because
that's all I really can do.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Yeah, I think at the end of the day too,
people forget that, like we're all humans, you know what
I mean. It's like, I guess when you're you know,
watching Dancing with the Stars, you're like, oh, it's a
TV show. It's not it's not reality. It's like these
are characters. And I think at the end of the day,
it's like we're all human and like going through these things.
And I it's so interesting that you said put myself
in someone else's shoes, because you don't really do that,
(26:28):
especially when you're like watching a show or anything like that.
And at the end of the day, like we are
just navigating relationships, and like you said, you guys are
so new that it's like you're just navigating starting a
relationship and then being thrown into these like unreal situations,
you know what I mean. So it's like we're all
everyone's just like doing the best that they can and
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like it's.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
It's funny because even after like five years of marriage
and almost eight years of being together THATLL and I
still get that. Like recently we got bombarded with all
of these comments because Val hasn't posted about me lately. Right,
people are like, heaven forbid?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Is everything okay?
Speaker 1 (27:06):
And I'm like, we are both full time working, we
are in week six of Dancing with the Stars, we're
also parents. We also want time for each other. Like
sorry that our first thought is not to post about
each other everything on social media. So it's you know what,
it's always going to be part of unfortunately, of your
relationship when you're in the public eye. But it's I
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love a secure couple, like I love a secure woman.
So like good for Kelsey. I love that she's outspoken
about it. We need more people like that in relationships.
So it's because it is, It's true.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
It's like a lot of people just put on this
facade and the like, you know, you don't really like
it's not they don't see the human side of it.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yeah, because it's so human. I was gonna ask if
roles were reversed and let's say Kelsey was with.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
Gleb oh Gleb, how would you how would you handle that?
Speaker 7 (27:57):
I think I've said this with Jenna too, and I'm
the first to admit I don't know, Like that's the
first thing I will always say, because I can't put
myself in that situation, and I can always try to
be in someone else's shoes, but I don't know what
Kelsey's actually feeling because I've never done it, so.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
I need to first start with that.
Speaker 7 (28:11):
But I would love to think that I would be
a really big supporter because I love seeing Kelsey succeed,
Like it's one of my favorite things to see how
excited she gets about stuff. So when I would picture it,
I would think about how much she'd be enjoying the process.
I would be the first one wanting to try to
be there on the sidelines and cheering and trying to
find ways to kind of boost her and make her feel.
Speaker 6 (28:29):
Confident what she's doing. But I don't know.
Speaker 7 (28:31):
I can't I can't put myself in that role. I
just hope that I would be able to be as
supportive as she's been to me.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Jennah, this is why you missed one of the greatest
seasons of the Bachelor.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I already know that he would like be so supportive
and love seeing her succeed like that at the end
of the day is what it's about. And yeah, I
could see you know.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
So Okay, I don't even know if you remember this,
but before you were the Bachelor, I met you at
a Jonahs Brother's concert, okay, okay, and so I remember,
like the ABC publicists were there and they introduced me
to you, and I hadn't watched The Bachelor a bauchel
arette and like, I don't I don't know at that point,
so I didn't know that you were the Bachelor, and
they were like, oh, this is the Bachelor. So I
(29:08):
started talking to you and I was like, oh my gosh,
Like within like that ten minute conversation, I was like
I love this guy. And I was there with one
of my girlfriends, and I was like, you need to
go talk to him like he's single, like he's about
to say the Bachelor, like he hasn't feeled it yet.
Speaker 7 (29:27):
It was That was actually really funny because that Jonah's
brother concert was like the first time I was able
to do stuff a little bit in public, because you
know how before you go on, they like try to
protect you and they pretty much told me not to
do anything like I was in Hawaii when I was
first starting, and then I went to my sister's place
in a Philly area and I was just really just
spending time with family and friends and not going out.
(29:48):
So that Jonah's brother was the first time I was
like intermingling with other people. And the amount of people
that came up that were still trying to get on
that season was actually hystair, but like.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
I got at least like it's never happened. I got
like six to eight passes.
Speaker 7 (29:59):
They're like, so like, if you were not going to
do the season, do you want to meet my friend?
I'm like, okay, this is happening now, Okay.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
I know.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
It was like literally within ten minutes of talking to you.
Speaker 6 (30:10):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Yeah, I just got like good vibes, good, like good
just like solid human from you.
Speaker 6 (30:16):
I appreciate. It's the best compment I can get.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
Yeah, I want to talk about wedding planning. Mm hmmm,
because Tonya is in the midst of wedding planning and
(30:41):
I wanted to see where where y'all are are their updates,
What's what's the plan?
Speaker 7 (30:46):
Yeah, I think it's updating every day kind of still
because we're trying to knock out little goals each time,
and our first goal is definitely figuring out where we
want to live, which sounds like the craziest thing to say,
but we just haven't had the ability to. We first,
we're coming off the show. Kelsey had a place that
she was staying at in New Orleans, and it just
made the most sense for me to kind of still
(31:08):
be where I was at in Philly, but come and
spend as much time with her as possible. She was
finishing our lease and we knew we were gonna go
somewhere after. But then I also knew at that time
getting off The Bachelor, that dancing was gonna be a possibility.
Speaker 6 (31:17):
So I was like, Kelse, I.
Speaker 7 (31:18):
Don't think we can probably lock down a place because
we might have to go temporarily be in LA for
a little bit. And we thought we were gonna go
to New York, but then she's like, maybe i'd be
open to LA. I was like, well, perfect, We'll come
here for dancing and see what that's going.
Speaker 6 (31:29):
To be like.
Speaker 7 (31:30):
And all of this is just still built to the
point of Okay, now we might want to stay in LA,
and I think that's our first goal is. I think
we are going to stay in la I think we're
gonna go a place as soon as we finally have
our first official place together. Then we're gonna start figuring
out what we want to do with wedding, because it's
just so hard to decide where you're going to have
it if you don't even know where you're living and
what you're doing.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
At the time.
Speaker 7 (31:51):
And I know that sounds crazy to say o loud,
but I think people forget how wild it is when
you get off the Bachelor and how you just you
got to figure out small life things before. And that's
why I said from the beginning I wanted a long
engagement because I knew. I just knew that it was
going to be chaotic, and if I tried to make
promises like we're going to pick a date at this
time or do this, it was just going to be
met with disappointment.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
And I didn't want that to be the case.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
I wanted to enjoy the planning process, and we just
haven't had the time to enjoy it just quite yet.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Well it's only been it hasn't even been a year.
Speaker 7 (32:20):
We are past the year where we met each other. Yeah,
when we met but we got engaged on November twelfth.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Okay, so we're getting close to the year.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
I know, is that crazy?
Speaker 2 (32:31):
We'll have you back in like a year.
Speaker 7 (32:33):
Is the easiest date ever to remember because it's eleven twelve,
twenty three.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Woah, that's cute.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
We added together in twenty days.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Forget peasure of the dates too, Like it's so funny.
You don't even realize this stuff when you're like wedding planning.
But I'm like I had a friend who like really
wanted to get rid of like nine to nineteen nineteen
ninety nine or not n sorry, nine nineteen twenty nineteen, okay,
And like there's so much pressure on like the date,
and then you're like, oh my gosh, like I don't
that's like the last thing that I thought about.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
You know what I mean, Like you know, well, we
were just talking about like venues and stuff before this,
and we wanted this venue so bad, and we had
a date that I was it was like perfect, it
was the perfect date, and then it fell through and
the only day they had available was the day after
my birthday and I was like, I am not sharing
my wedding anniversary with my birthday. That's just like an
(33:25):
easy out for.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
You, and I thought, that's you didn't do that right.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
We did it, and I actually kind of love it.
It's a great sealimtory weekend.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
I was so but listen, I.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
Was so pissed.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
I was like, it can't be this close to my birthday.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
I was so mad. But then it was so cute
because we had like a birthday dinner, our rehearsal dinner
for me, and then it was our wedding and that
was just like such a special time. But there's a
lot of pressure and I was like, how could I
have four twelve and four thirteen next to each other
for the rest of my life?
Speaker 7 (33:57):
Yeah, I'll be honest, I just want a date I
can remember. That's true that I am the worsted dates.
And I was just so excited that when I found out, like, no,
I can, I can do this like eleven plus twelve
egles twenty three. I'm like, I got that one. So
WA just going to try to find date that I
can remember so I don't miss the flowers in the
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car and the gates.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
I just need I need that. So that's the that's
the idea for me.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
You should just keep that as the date, like y'all
just do everything on that date.
Speaker 7 (34:26):
No, because then I'm sure she'll have the same reaction
that Jenna did. And she needs multiple days. I can't
combine them, so I'm probably gonna have to find another
one that I can remember.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
It's more pressure for Valve than anywhere, double double.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Tade every year since Wow, She's great?
Speaker 2 (34:44):
What has it been like dancing with Gin?
Speaker 5 (34:47):
And can you share anything about Gin and Sasha because
I am rooting for them romantically, but I really just
find myself rooting for her happy, like I think after
I think there's something about watching what she went through
on being ab that felt so devastating and I felt
mad for her that seeing her thrive and find this
like confidence and joy on Dance with the Stars has
(35:09):
been so beautiful. But I am feeling nosy.
Speaker 6 (35:12):
Yeah, I get the nosey part.
Speaker 7 (35:13):
I think a lot of people are knows you on
that one. We can be the first to explain that
we do not know as much as we as much
as we intermingle with all the different couples on the show,
it's like it's impossible to really like, we're not going
to ask those type of questions as much.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
As you see, we see different. Yeah, how you shifting
it right now? Hey?
Speaker 7 (35:34):
But as you said, for Jen, for her being on
the season, what we've always said and what I keep
focusing on is the fact of, like, that's so hard
to have what happened to her. That was my biggest
fear of being on the show is something not only
not working out, but then all the stuff that comes
along with it. And then I really i know from experienced,
like when you get off, you just sit in all
(35:54):
of your fields. Even when it works out, you think
about everything, you have so much time you're coming out
of the six experience that it's really hard, even when
it goes well, to like get yourself back to reality.
And this was probably the perfect thing for her, just
to dive into something else, because you just need something
to do, You need something to distract, you need something
to get you excited about. And from experience a dancer
(36:16):
with the stars, it really isn't a better experience to
just dive into and have so much fun with. So
I'm so grateful she gets this, and I'm grateful that's
been going well for her, And as you can tell.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
She like really loves it and enjoying it and like
you see her like thriving, which I think is especial
after coming off the season.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
It's like, so it's so empowered. You'll really have such
a great cast of people this year.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
It's awesome.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Maybe you could like set up like a nice little
romantic picnic or something for that, like.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
A candle and a candle.
Speaker 6 (36:53):
Pick, and we'll write a card from all four of
the US.
Speaker 7 (36:55):
This was just we talked about on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Yeah, it's simple.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
Are you watching Have you had time to watch Golden Bachelorette?
Speaker 7 (37:05):
Are you watching gold She's a mom, She's just like
she can't watch my season.
Speaker 6 (37:13):
Because I'm helping you. So you don't even have to
say it's not wrong.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
I am a mom. So when I get home, I'm
like doing bad time and bedtime and then.
Speaker 6 (37:21):
And then you plan stuff for me. I'm a child.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
I'm sure you watched T television right now?
Speaker 3 (37:27):
No?
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Really, not well No, I am like so focused on
what's at hand of the week or next week.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
I imagine how much time we would all have in
our days if we didn't watch any TV.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Like I think about that often actually.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
With my son. That's about it.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
That's a good one, though it could be worse.
Speaker 7 (37:47):
I think people forget how much like they always talk
about how tough it is on the celebrities, how much
time they have to put in, but no one actually
thinks about the pros too, because not only are they
putting in the exact amount of time, but they also
have to plan a course. Yeah, they have to do
extra practices because they have opening numbers.
Speaker 6 (38:03):
Like her schedule is ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (38:05):
That I'm shocked she doesn't have time to do all
the other things she does, So I don't take it personally.
Speaker 5 (38:10):
That's but your future father in law went home last
night and I was so sad.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
But does could there be a Golden Bachelor opportunity?
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (38:25):
Possibly, I think there always is a chance, you know
how it works. They take time to kind of make
that decision. And I think now that everyone knows that
Mark isn't with Joan, people are rooting for him, as
they should because he's just an amazing man. But yeah,
I think what I take from that experience for him
is he talked about in the most eloquent way possible
because it's Mark. It's just like he gained so much
(38:46):
from this and he was so grateful, and I think
it did more for him than he could have imagined.
And I think he's ready to, as he said, like
kind of start his life again and really push himself
to be open to finding someone and just keep having
amazing experiences what that show does. So I'm rooting for
him whatever that means, if it's another opportunity with the show,
if it's just him putting himself out there and finding
someone and starting to go on dates and hopefully finding
(39:08):
someone to spend more time with.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
So what a crazy thing though, to be able to
experience something that your daughter went through, like your future.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
Yeah, it's just so crazy.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
She was the Golden Bachelor. You'd give him all would.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
I would they need to do this.
Speaker 7 (39:28):
I would request to be like his assistant, like I
would go on it with him and I would sit
with him and just make sure someone was protecting him
in all.
Speaker 6 (39:36):
Foss because he just it's a crazy experience.
Speaker 7 (39:39):
And I know they do such a great job, but
the golden side of the franchise is keeping it very wholesome.
So I would be all supportive of it if they
did choose to, But I'll do whatever Mark wants to do.
Because that man deserves the world. So whatever he does,
I'm going to support it.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
He's precious.
Speaker 6 (39:53):
No, he's the best.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
I do want to talk, though, Jenna, about your schedule
because I think that, No, I think that like a mom,
Like you're women now, like we're multifaceted, we're hype.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
What's it called hyper? What's the multi hyphen its? Thank
you so much?
Speaker 3 (40:08):
So it's like you are You're a you're working, you're working,
you're a mom, you're a friend, you're this, you're a wife,
Like you have all of these things on your plate.
Like what does I don't want to say an average
day look like, because I guess every day of the
week is probably different, but like, yeah, give us like
one of your busiest.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
Days, Like what that kind of looks like today?
Speaker 5 (40:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (40:27):
Yeah, today that works.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
So today's unique. But today started at five forty five.
I had glam, we did press, we did KTLA this morning.
Then we're obviously doing this wonderful podcast. We have like
an hour and then we head straight to our own
individual rehearsal, which is one to five, and then we
are actually shooting something for our package next week, which
is a cute little double date. Uh, with me, Val
(40:51):
Kelsey and Joey. So we're shooting something for that and
that's going to be after rehearsal, which is probably like
six to nine. All while, like my son woke up
at seven, I have to give him his bottle, you know,
get him out of bed. I want to make sure
that I'm always the person to do that or put
him to bed. So it's just crazy. But then I'm
also having to do fittings, zoom call, creative zoom calls,
(41:13):
we do interviews. It's just nuts us, absolutely nuts. But
and like I feel like my family sometimes they know
not to really text or call me and take it
offensively if I don't answer while I'm in season, because
I just it's hard to keep up.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Yeah, And like.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Sometimes I won't respond to Joey's text if he texts
me at night, and then I'll like look at my
phone and it's ten pm and I'm like, oh my gosh,
I'm so sorry I didn't see this that I was
putting room to bed or i was doing bath time.
So it's a lot to like try to feel like
myself and not like I'm spread too thin. But I'm
also so proud that I can do all of these
things and feel like I'm giving myself to all of
(41:54):
them because I love I love what I do. I
love working, I love choreographing, I love dancing, I love
being a mom, I love being a WiFi. I can
be so much better, but it's it's it's hard in
these three months. It's like a little bubble that I
just have to prepare myself, like this is going to
be insanity, but you can do it, and then it's
going to be Christmas. So yeah, I really enjoyed to say.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
You're an inspiration, like honestly, because I do think, like
you know, I think that as women, we do have
all of these wants, you know, like I don't have
a kid of my own.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
I want very soon.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
But it's like that is another thing that's like scary
because it's like I don't know what that means for
like my professional life, and like you know what I mean,
it's like it's like this weird little dance that we
have to do, and so it's.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
You can do it, I'll see. Yeah, it's from what
I've like, it's hard and sometimes uncomfortable and you have
to overplan. But I knew going into motherhood that I
wanted to still work, and that was really part of
my identity and something that gave me so much happiness.
So I always know i'd be a working mom, but
I've learned that you're able to accomplish so much and
somehow you have energy to do it. I don't know how,
(42:56):
because I don't. I really feel like I don't sleeve
a ton, but it makes all of these moments so fulfilling,
and I feel like I'm so much more present in
life in all aspects because I really know, like I
don't want to take this for granted. I'm so grateful
to have it. So, yeah, what is it?
Speaker 5 (43:11):
What is your life when you're not on like when
this when Dancing with the Stars isn't airing or being
filmed or whatever.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
What does life look like for you?
Speaker 1 (43:18):
It's a lot more chill.
Speaker 5 (43:21):
No.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
My husband and I, you know, we we have different
things that we do. We also work for like conventions,
so we teach on the weekends. We're constantly traveling. We'll
do gigs here and there. We've done the Dancing with
the Stars tour, which is another beast. So yeah, it's
it's a lot different and we kind of get to
determine our own schedule, which is nice. So I think
that's why we we have the stamina to get through
(43:41):
these three months, because we know it's a bit more
chill once we're out of it.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
It's it's incredible that schedule just gave me so much stress.
I thought about the few errands I have to run
today and I was like.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
The box and home goods today.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Relax.
Speaker 6 (44:00):
Wait.
Speaker 5 (44:01):
So I had a question about the songs. Do they
give you the songs or do you get to choose
the songs, Like as you're creating the dance, is it
like you choose the song?
Speaker 2 (44:10):
How does that work?
Speaker 6 (44:10):
It's kind of a mix.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
It's it kind of depends on what the theme is
that we bring in a theme.
Speaker 7 (44:16):
And then I remember when I first came on, they
like talked about some of the themes they had and
they're like, give us some ideas of like songs you
would like to do along with it. But it never
like works out perfectly. You can't just be like I
want to do Taylor Swift every week, like this doesn't happen.
You have to make sure it fits and then you
have to kind of find out a way to make
it meaningful. To you what we love so far, I
(44:37):
mean feel really good about the first like.
Speaker 6 (44:39):
Five songs we've done.
Speaker 7 (44:40):
Is we've wanted it to be powerful, each one to
have something, and it's hard because it's I don't know.
It's like when someone asks you, like, what's your favorite song,
Like that's so hard to come up with. It's the
same thing when you ask for like a theme. It's
just you got to find something that not only means
a lot to you, but then you feel like it's
gonna be powerful. I feel strong that she's gonna be
able to make good choreography to that. That's where she
(45:00):
comes in the most.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
So if it's if you say something good, you do that, yeah,
so I don't think so, I know it's a weird thing.
Speaker 4 (45:09):
And if you knock on your forehead and you say, what.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
I almost started doing that, there you go at least day.
Speaker 5 (45:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Yeah, it really depends well. Also, and you have to
do a different style each week. Yes, so you want
to do a song that you love that fits within
the theme, but then you have to do a different
genre of like we have to do a fox drop
or a tango or a Latin style. So it is
hard to find that something that fits all of those boxes.
But we've we've been able to.
Speaker 6 (45:40):
Do that so far.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
It so far.
Speaker 7 (45:41):
Yeah, I feel great about it, and it's it's just
it's a part of the whole process of trying to
make sure it all works out too.
Speaker 6 (45:47):
But it's mostly her. I just listen to what she says.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
What are you working on right now with dance?
Speaker 6 (45:52):
Well, we have Disney Night coming up, so it's gonna
be a fun one.
Speaker 7 (45:56):
We can't say exactly yet what song it is and
what movie, but I don't think we can.
Speaker 6 (46:02):
When does it get announced?
Speaker 2 (46:03):
The color dress you wear?
Speaker 6 (46:08):
I will be shirtless, that's what we can say. Yeah,
I'll be shirtless and I'll be wearing a wig. Have
you been two together.
Speaker 5 (46:17):
Over?
Speaker 6 (46:18):
No, not a lot.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
This is a full, a full shirtless moment, Tarzan. We
don't know.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
How does it feel to bear it all like that?
Speaker 4 (46:29):
Did you ever think?
Speaker 5 (46:31):
No?
Speaker 7 (46:31):
I'll bring him back to week one because it was
Jenna's brilliant idea. She's like, there's a moment in this
dance where you could definitely rip your shirt off.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
I was like, what, we just met each other.
Speaker 6 (46:40):
He was like, I don't know what.
Speaker 7 (46:41):
I've never done that before She's like, no, it's great,
they'll put a girl on your shirt. You'll just take
it out and it'll be awesome. Like okay, like let's
try to find.
Speaker 6 (46:48):
The time in it.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
And then you were a meme everywhere.
Speaker 7 (46:52):
It was a great idea. But the funny thing is
I didn't get a chance to practice that until that day.
Speaker 6 (46:56):
Remember we did it like that.
Speaker 7 (46:58):
I think it's time to finally just the shirt off
because you would like do like the action of it.
And then she's like, no, you're gonna need to bring
a shirt in that you can actually rip off.
Speaker 6 (47:07):
And and then then that I was gonna say that was.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
Kind of when I felt like we knew, like, oh,
Joey's gonna be in this competition.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
He's like ready to embrace.
Speaker 4 (47:15):
You're like here I am.
Speaker 5 (47:17):
He's not just gonna get votes because everyone loves him,
They're gonna he's gonna get votes.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
Yeah, when all this is said and done, when this
season is done, who are the people that you're going
to keep in touch with for me on besides each other?
Speaker 7 (47:30):
Yeah, definitely, I honestly cannot wait to keep this friendship.
But she's the best her in vow, I hope I
get to be in their lives for the rest of
it because they are amazing.
Speaker 6 (47:44):
Uh, Alona is the best.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
I love.
Speaker 7 (47:47):
Alona is everything you would imagine she is and more.
I will annoy her for the rest of my life
because I just love her. Honestly, A lot of the
other pros to Brandon, Alan, everyone everyone on the show
has been great, but yeah, the first one that comes
in my own mind is I just love a Loe.
Speaker 4 (48:04):
We've grown a.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
Weird connection with them, Like I feel like we're always
rehearsing at the same exact time, so they become our
rehearsal buddies where they'll come in Alan will help me
with showing Joey something, I'll help him with like a lift,
showing alone of something. So we've really created this awesome
like friendship and bond with them that has been Yeah, special.
Speaker 7 (48:23):
It's been awesome and everyone this season it's just truthfully
going to be. It's the same thing with the Bachelor
stuff too, Like the longer you're in the competition, the
more time you spend with them.
Speaker 6 (48:32):
So I don't know who we're.
Speaker 7 (48:33):
Gonna get close with, because hopefully we're going to be
here for the long haul and those a gonna be
the people who are going to keep seeing So that's
just part of it.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
I remember when I follow on Alona.
Speaker 5 (48:42):
I saw I clicked on her profile and TikTok and
it said follow back, and I was like, star strug.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
This was like when she first like went viral at
the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (48:50):
Yes and follow her first?
Speaker 6 (48:53):
Well, no, she wasn't the best feeling ever when you
see the.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
Okay, I was stoked. So I hope she follows me.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
They didn't follow you first?
Speaker 4 (49:10):
Yeah, I hate it.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
I'm like, okay, where can people follow you? Where can
people see what you're doing?
Speaker 5 (49:17):
I feel like everyone's probably, I mean our listeners are
so I feel like this season specifically, people are like
obsessed this season specifically of Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
They're like all in, But where can people who may
not be following you back?
Speaker 1 (49:32):
The obvious is they can tune in every Tuesday to
Dancing with the Stars and continue to vote Joey yes,
And then on socials, I'm at Jenna Johnson and I'm
at Joey easy peasy.
Speaker 4 (49:46):
Thank you so much for.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
Yeah, we love you, guys are rooting for you all
and hopefully the next time.
Speaker 4 (49:55):
Good luck to Yeah, I'm so excited. I'm going to
start doing this all the time.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
YEAHAH can wait to see how your life.
Speaker 4 (50:07):
We're about to track our next podcast, so you watch out.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
It's gonna be allowed to tell Kelsey you had a
great time, because I would love to have her scrub it.
Speaker 7 (50:16):
I guess we're going to be in l A, so
we'll definitely find a time we can all link up
with great tracking out.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
That's right, Thank you guys,
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