May 3, 2024 • 33 mins
To Social Media or Not To Social Media? That is the question. Amy and T.J. debate whether we are all posting too much, too little, or getting too personal. Likes, dislikes, and all that hate.
Their former colleague, Rob Marciano was let go from ABC, and they share their thoughts.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome everyone to Amy and TJ. And TJ is already
laughing at me because I have my broadcasting voice. I
can't help it.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Why do you okay? Starting it? Okay, let's pretend like
we're starting all over and you like talking to me
at home.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Hey, welcome, I don't know, it feels weird. Welcome everyone.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
It's so hard to be natural, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
When it when it comes to an intro, Yes, you're
usually punching it with some energy. I don't know, almost
thirty years of broadcasting experience. You go into broadcasting mode.
So yes, again, it's okay. Proof is in the pudding.
All you're doing is making sure that you start every podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
You see how you just that just came out naturally?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Right? You have been I say this to you coaching me.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
No, not coaching, but I say this to you all
the time. When we were on GM A three, sitting
on the set and before we start the show and
there's counting out five four three, and I'm talking to you,
I'm like poking. Just as soon as the show starts,
the cameras come on and our MIC's come up, we're
in the middle of conversation, and that's when you are
nailing because you're at your best. You ain't thinking about it.
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You're not looking at a prompter. You just boom and
you just go boom. But we Andy was the one here,
our producer in the room. He said, you know what, Amy,
I think you got this today. You can do it.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
And I thank you Andy, thank you very much for
that encouragement.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I've ever heard a ringing endorsement.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Andy, I thought you were good enough but not great,
but not terrible. You know who was great today?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Homes Oh you all, yes, Beanie bean. Today was a
very big day. We are recording. We hustled here because Sabine,
eleven year old had her first ever track meet and
her first ever athletic competition in her young life. Was
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today an official track meet that we have been working
on and training for for weeks, her for months, but
we've been going out really hard with her on the
track for the past couple of weeks and so.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
It was awesome. It was it was. There are those
moments you're coaching your kids. You're hoping that they're joways,
just going to give it their all. You're hoping that
you don't want necessarily a victory. You just want them
to give it their all. Right, that's what you're trying
to do.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
So we wanted to win though, don't get me wrong, yeah,
one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
But anyway, you're not telling them that, You're just saying
all I care about is that you give it your all.
And so it's been really sweet to watch TJ getting
up really early with Sabine pretty much every morning for
the last several days, going to a track with was
not easy to find in New York City, by the way,
in Manhattan, and getting her out onto a real track
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and training for the two hundred meter and timing her
and her splits and helping her with her form, and
she was such a good student. Not every kid takes
direction well from a parent, especially, But I watched it
all happen. And today was the track meet. She was
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in the two hundred and TJ tell us what happened.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
She won her heat.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah, I mean, she's got legs for miles, she's got
your body. You call her. Your nickname for her is
so cute, stix. She just got these She's all legs.
I mean, she was built to be a runner. I
mean it's just it's and it's so sweet. To see
her just look at you and look for your direction.
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She knows her daddy knows how to run races now,
and so it's just it's so sweet to see it happen.
And how sweet is it that she actually won. That
is rare and cool and should be celebrated.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Every parent can relate to that. You want you look,
you do want your kid to win, of course, but
oftentimes that's for you, right, that's for the parents. I
want my child to win. I could be proud, but
I just wanted her to be able to feel good
about the race that she ran. And the last thing
is to run your race. Do not worry about where
any other kid is. Run your race and you're gonna
be okay. And sure enough, she ran her race. There
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was a kid and you saw this. There was a
day that we went out to practice with her. The
one day I went and she was like she was dying,
like she's just gonna throw up, and she was hurting.
It was just pain, like running hurts, right, it does. Today.
I saw her as another kid was approaching in the
straightaway and that two hundred meter was catching up with
her and she was slowing down. You could tell she
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was struggling, and she kicked into another gear when she
saw that other kid. And that was a great life
lesson for her to see that I can push through
something and to watch her do it. I didn't have
to encourage her or anything. She learned something about herself today.
That was That was the best part of the day.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
I also agree that teaching your kids, if you put
in the practice, you put in the work. It doesn't
mean you're gonna win, but you have a better shot
than most when you put the work in. So she
did it. She got up early, she went in all
kinds of weather, and it paid off. And that's an
also very important lesson for folks to learn. She did
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just wake up and yeah, she's got long legs and
she ran faster than everybody. No, she worked at it.
She she wanted on her form, and she got up
and did the hard thing. So I love those types
of lessons. Win or lose, there are great lessons to have,
but it's maybe even a little extra sweet when it's
a win.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
It was fun to us and we were leaving here
immediately to go celebrate with her, to go party. She's
holding onto the champagne. She's not gonna pop it until
we get there. So that's Frue. You're standing by texting
as we speak. She's having a good time. But today, folks,
on this episode, we are gonna we're gonna quickly tick
through a few topics that have gotten us interested, worked up, sad,
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even to a certain degree. But Robes has worked up
about new breast cancer screening guidelines. A former GMA colleague
of ours has now been fired. We have something in
common with Jelly Roll, and we want to give a
collective hug to Jlo Lopez. We're gonna hit those things
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here in the next few minutes. So let's start at
the top here. Breast cancer screens. We've done a couple
of episodes. Everybody knows you're a breast cancer survivor and
you've talked about this for a long time. But now
this task force, they are the authority on breast cancer screenings.
They have now gone back on guidelines that they gave
us what ten years ago, Please tell forty year old
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women now should be getting breat cancers.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
They have flip flopped so many times, and that is
my biggest frustration because it is already confusing, and then
they just make it more confusing, and so when I
ended up getting my screening, my first mammogram at forty,
it was only because of my job Good Morning America.
They asked me to do that, just to show women
to start Breast Cancer Awareness Month that at forty you,
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I mean, Robin Roberts was the big impetus for this.
You should get your baseline mammogram. But that went against
what the US Preventive Services Task Force suggested, which was
fifty if you had no family history, if you were
of average risk.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
And that's been the case for the past, that's been
in place with.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Ten years, yes, and there was a time where I
believe the American Cancer Society said forty five. So it
just you know, look, busy women, busy lives, and who
wants to go to the doctor and get a test
they might not need or probably don't need in their minds, right,
So if you tell me I can wait till I'm fifty,
I'm waiting till I'm fifty. If it hadn't been for
my job, I would have waited until I was fifty
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or until I had symptoms, which is usually when it's
too late. So I credit just knowing other breast cancer
survivors and how having a work assignment. That is the
only reason I found my cancer at the age of forty.
And just for the record, at the age of forty,
a seemingly healthy young woman with no family history, I
had it. I had two malignant tumors, it had already
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spread to my limp notes. So that's just the reality
that so many other women are facing. So if you're
told you can wait to your fifty, you've got ten
years now, where that's not time you can spare if
you're already if you already have breast cancer. And the
only way the best test we have right now is
a mammogram. So anyway, they've now said, hey, ladies, whoops,
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Now you should go at forty. And there is still
a sticking point that's angering a lot of medical professionals
who work with breast cancer patients. They're saying every other year,
not every year. And the problem is when this task
force makes these types of recommendations, it affects what doctors recommend,
it affects what insurance companies will cover, and it definitely
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affects women living and dying. And they said, just by
this was some medical professional said, just by changing the
guidelines from fifty to forty. They believe that that could
have a significant impact on women surviving breast cancer.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Okay, you've changed the guidelines from fifty to forty, but
you're saying every other year at forty versus every year
at forty. Yeah, I mean, I mean what it isn't
somebody going to argue? And so in five years, this
task force are going to come back you say, you
know what, we should do it every year starting exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
There was a doctor who was quoted saying, we can
save even more lives, up to nearly twenty percent more
lives with this updated strategy. There is no new information
out there. This is just a group of they're actually
a volunteer group of folks, most of whom do not
treat breast cancer patients at all, making these recommendations. And
it has a huge financial impact on the insurance companies,
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on the doctors, on the medical professionals. So there's just
so much at play here, and the reality is the
most important thing that should be at play is a
woman's life. And that is what's frustrating to me that
the only only reason they claim, oh there's unnecessary testing,
there's unnecessary anxiety for younger women who have dense breast tissue.
That's why we're only saying every other year, because they'll
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be unnecessary tests and unnecessary worry. You know what, all
take being worried, All take getting a false positive to
find out I don't have preast cancer versus not getting
the test at all and not knowing I have breast cancer.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Well, you're speaking again too, You're you're speaking from an
experience you have, and I understand obviously your passion, But
what do these folks again, I don't not familiar with
whose this group is, how they get on this task force?
But are they not to you talk about the money aspect.
There's a financial aspect and there is like some influence
possibly on this group. So you're taking a lot of
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people can't see what you did. But I am on
the outside to a certain degree and not as entrenched
as you are to where I think, well, surely these
people are trying to do what's best. Surely they only
have the interest of women's health and lives in them
in their mind.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
They are saying that with the cost of it as well,
without a doubt, And I would just argue, you can't
put a price on a mother, on a sister, on
a daughter, And this is breast cancer affects men as well.
The mammogram issue, though, is what we're talking about, and
that is for women. And so when I speak to that,
I just say, I don't think you can put a
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cost on a woman's life. And of course I am
coming at it from a very subjective point of view,
knowing specifically that I would have waited until I was fifty,
and had I done that, I don't know that I
would be here today.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Okay, but that's from where you're your standpoint, and you
say it that way, you count it that way. But
it is a very good chance if you followed the
guidelines that were in place previously, you would not be
alive today.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Okay, so that's where the passion.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
It's understandable. Yes, So anyway, I applaud them finally making
it forty. I don't applaud the fact that they're saying
every other year. I think that is cost saving. And
they can say it's about unnecessary test, which again is
cost but they're also claiming that they're saving women from
undo anxiety from a false positive. I say, save me that,
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I'll handle my own anxiety, give me the test.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Well, So, I mean we're not the ones in the business.
We've had doctors on here, we had you're on colleges
on here, We've had doctor Coleman on here. Of course,
they are the ones the experts who can give you
the advice or whatever you should do with this, and
who you should We can't give that. All we can
do is tell you that they're now saying women, you
should go get mammograms starting at forty and you should
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get it every other year. That's all we can do,
right tod.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
And I would just say, as someone who's been through this,
I just want every woman out there to feel empowered
to push for the healthcare that they want to receive.
And I think anyone, any doctor worth anything, is going
to support that and understand that allowing women to have
access to mammograms is in a very important part of
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our health care.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
You say that thing about like women to be empowered.
This is I've didn't plan on doing this now, but
I will because you said that and it triggered it.
Empower women. I have seen what's the name of the
medicine you need to live sinthroid, synthroid all right, you
have to have You have been trying to get your
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prescription of synthroid for.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
How long it's been like two months?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Okay, And the reason you can't get it is because it's.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Just a frustrating medical system. I think a lot of
people can understand this. You've got doctors who are overworked
and they've got a big caseload and they don't keep
track of their patients to an extent. And so, yes,
I was out of my synthroid. This is for a
thyroid condition I have. And I got the blood work,
I did everything I was supposed to, and there's just
all of there's just constant red tape, and there's just it.
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We're busy, and so if someone puts a hurdle in
front of me and says calls me back and says, hey,
you have to now have a physical and I said, well,
I just did my blood work. Well now she won't
renew the prescription because you have to come in again
for a physical when I just had one a few
months ago. It's just there's all this paperwork and all
this red tape, and then you think you get the
test you need and then they tell you we're not
giving you the prescription. Unless you come in and do that,
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it's just it's just a non stop.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
You you had a synthroid.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
They wouldn't renew it again, even though I just got
my blood work last month.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Okay, what happens if you don't take synthroid?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Eventually? Yeah, my body would eventually shut down. It would
take a long time.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Well, but your brother was testing about it.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
So during the pandemic, I yes, de point, this is
my only wake up call to it. So I've had
I've been taking synth rid since I was twenty nine.
After my first baby, my byroid completely depleted. So I
think it's called hashimotos or something like that, but anyway,
I have to have it, so I stopped taking it. No,
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that's the name of the thyroid syndrome. My you're getting
nods from Emma and from Andy. I'm not making it up.
I didn't just make up a word. So during the pandemic,
I was just it was hard to get a hold
of a doctor, and so I thought, what would happen
if I just stopped taking it? Really dumb idea. No
one ever do this. And it took I think two months,
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and all of a sudden, I was like weak and
shaking and almost fainting. I could barely function, and I realized,
oh my god, I stopped taking the synthroid. I called
my brother, who's a physician. He's like, you're a moron,
And I said, could I die if I never take
in throat again? He was like, yes, you eventually would.
Your thyroid regulates your entire body. It would take a
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while and it wouldn't be fun. I didn't ask him, well,
tell me that.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
No, really, what are we talking months? We're talking years,
talking decades?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
No, not decades. I mean, I don't know how long
it would take. What I'm saying, end of the world,
I'd be in trouble.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
But no, you you'll are saying this that you need
something to live, and you have doctors making it difficult
for you to get the thing you need to live.
That is a problem. And look, I know you are
sitting We're sitting here in a very privileged situation with
the best doctors in the world and access and healthcare
and all these things. That's great, But for you, you need
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something to live. And I have heard you on all
these phone calls. I'm like, what the hell?
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Why is this hard?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Why is this hard.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I don't know. I think so many people out there though,
who have to have medicine to actually yes, as you
point out, live understand it can be a frustrating, arduous task.
Even if you do all the things you're supposed to do.
They lost the paperwork, you have to come back in again,
you have to come into somewhere else to get blood work.
It's just it's it's exhausting. But yes, I would like
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to live, so I will get I will get the synthroid.
Trust me. It's just gonna take a few more steps.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Apparently, Yeah, apparently we're gonna have to plan a heist
to go get this stuff, all right, but any that's
one thing. But yes, the breastkinds of screening is if
you don't know, ladies, read up on it, look at it,
and please talk to your doctor. But because the guidelines
have changed once again. The other thing we mentioned want
to talk about today is it's getting around and making
some headlines. But it has to do with a former
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colleague of ours who, according to the headlines at least,
has been let go from ABC News and Good Morning America,
where he worked as a meteorologist for the past ten years.
Talking about Rob Marciano. Now, the details of it you
can go read for yourself. Not going to repeat a
lot of that stuff, but we know he's not working
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that any there anymore. We were with somebody just had
a breakfast the other morning where somebody reminded us, hey,
nobody leaves ABC News in a pretty fashion. That's exactly
what they said.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Word for word. And yes, it's it's a tough situation. Yes,
we have walked down that road and it's not an
easy one. And I know he also has and I
think he might still be going through a divorce. So
we know what it's like to have your entire life
up ended, career and personal life. So and we both
have known Rob for a long time. You've known him
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longer than I have.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
We were at starting CNN in two thousand and six.
He was there, and we spent all those years together
at CNN. A lot this his He could pull out
his phone now and his phone is flooded with messages
from me over the past decade of me complimenting him.
He is one of the best guys I've ever seen
in the field covering weather. He is just good. He
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is good at it, and I've always marveled, and I
like people who can handle live like that too, So
we don't obviously we don't know all the details, and
some of them that are out there are a little
sketchy and sallacious and and tabloid type clickable headline stuff
that we are not going to get into. But whatever
it is, it's we hate to see somebody who's been
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a friend and colleague for a long time end up
in this place's position to be talked about the way
he's being talked about to some degree. But like I said,
that was a weird statement to get just yesterday.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Yeah, and it's you know, and you said it best.
It's not our place and we would never make it
our place to comment specifically on any of the details,
but we do know what it's like to have those
headlines to be the subject of clickbait, and that's a
tough position for anyone to be going through, especially someone
who is a father of two. I know how much
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he loves his kids. He talks about them all the time,
so it's just tough to see those headlines almost for
the sake of his family, his kids, him, all of that,
So our heart goes out to him, and I agree
he is. There's no one, you know. I mean, he
can weather from a tornado to a hurricane to a snowstorm.
He's been through it all, Yes, and he happily jumps
on those planes and rolls up his sleeves and puts
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on those rubber boots and reports on everything for so
many people at the expensive of time with his family.
So I do applaud all the work he has bravely
done over the last decade or so, and we wish
him the very best.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
No matter what. We don't know all the details, so
it's not some defense of anything he has or hasn't done.
It's just a matter of you just you just hate
to see it in that way for somebody. But that's
something that's and of course people immediately start sending us
messages and hey did you see this? And you know
this is going on because of our connection to that place.
So that's there. The is this a happier note? Jelly roll?
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Jellyroll is off social media? Well, he jumped off, so
he's he said he is in a better mental place
and healthier because he stopped looking at social media. Who
can relate to that?
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah, we had a year hiatus and I have to say, yeah,
I loved it. It took you know, you get into
it's almost like a muscle. You're flexing when you're posting,
and you're you're sharing and you're and then when it
bites you in the ass, there is a freedom to
walking away from it. I hate why and why he
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had to do it, because you know, look, this is
a dude who I loved reading about the fact that
he's about to run a five k next month. I
believe for charity, so it's for all the good reasons,
and he has been very public saying I think he's
already lost seventy pounds. I mean, we are always applauding
better health choices and taking it on and owning it
and being proud of it and inspiring other people and
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doing so, but sadly, in doing so, people always have
to make comments, and the comments about his weight it
was counterproductive and I can only imagine what that must
feel like. I mean, Flavor Fight Flave just came out
and said, y'all just took a beautiful sweet man and
he fled social media because of y'all, Like, what are
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you doing?
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Why?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
The hate?
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Why?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
And there's like not a nicer guy, and that's what
everyone is saying. I don't know him personally, but everyone
who has spoken of him speaks so highly of him
and what he's trying to accomplish. And it's just it's
sad and sick to me that people jump on that, Oh.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Look his struggle, his journey has been well documented and
applaud him for being out there about it and his
success right now, Oh, his talent, but his success, it's
just you you I don't know. Yeah, you're happy for
him and do your thing. It's just we have, without
a doubt, been in that position that he was in,
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in that you're looking at things online and you're supposed
to be strong, You're supposed to be able to be dismissive,
you're supposed to be able to say, oh, that person
is just some some loser in their basement somewhere, Da
da da. You do that. But those are the things
that absolutely hurt, and they hit and I have It
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was a very big part, you know, this, of my
recovery insanity, when I got advised not to read anything
very early on, just don't read or listen to anything
that was so important than me recovering and still now
I hesitate to do anything on social media like I'm
I hate to admit that, but absolutely I am. I
am shying away from it for those reasons. It's not
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a matter of Korean public public eye. We expect criticism,
we get it. But there's a difference between criticizing I
didn't like how you did that interview, why didn't you
ask about this, versus you're an idiot, You're you should
go to You're going to burn in hell for how
you handle it. That's different. That is the type of
stuff that makes it very difficult to keep engaging.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Yeah, and you know, I didn't even tell you this.
I kind of touched on it when I first came
into the studio. But last night I told you I
was looking at our Amy and TJ podcast Instagram feed
just to just see how we were doing and just
to see what the different clips were, and I saw
some I don't usually look at comments, but I saw
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some comments about my appearance. Look, we're not in a studio,
I don't have parent makeup, I don't look the same.
You know that. Maybe I looked when I was on
Good Morning America and there was just some really hateful
comments about how I look like what that I've aged tremendously,
that I that I that they can tell I'm an
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alcoholic because my face is all puffy and my eyes
are swollen, and you know, just like and I started
reading it and I and it kept me up, like
it kept me up, and I had a hard time
going to sleep, and I thought, why am I looking
at this? So I think people just need to realize,
like it hurts, and it's not you know, and I'll
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get over it and I'll be fine and it's but
I was like, Okay, I need a I need a
ring light on this, on this on this webcam we
have or I need to do. It really affects people,
and I just I just wish I'm not trying to
be Pollyanna here, but I just wish people could be
kinder and keep your negative thoughts to yourself. I know
that's a silly, crazy request, but you just it. It
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doesn't matter who you are, if your jelly rolled, if
you're j Lo. Yeah, those types of comments eat away
at you. And I'm not saying you don't you know,
we put ourselves in the public eye. I get that
you put yourself out there. You have to be you know,
ready to handle criticism.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I get that there's a difference between criticism and hate.
Seeing critique and bullying, there's a totally different thing, and
that different thing, that other thing is. I think what
has run jelly rolled off? It's run some people off.
But I don't know how much thicker skin.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Yeah, I mean we don't post as much. I don't
post anywhere near as much.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I don't at all. And you know what, And I'm embarrassed.
This is embarrassing. I don't post as much about you. Yeah,
that's up. Yeah, it really really is. I'm happy and
I'm proud of who I'm with. And but to shout
it from the mountaintop, I'm not shouting. I'm just a
post here or there. It's just I don't know. That's
that's too bad, And that's people people got on that
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gown to me, but they saw all years prior. He's
not posting about his marriage. He's not posting about his wife.
There was a reason for that, right, and then because
something wasn't going well, because I wasn't trying to put
on a false impression that everything was cool. Now that
everything is great, I'm still holding back right because of that,
(26:20):
and that just that sucks. I'm embarrassed if that's the case,
but it is. Yes, they yes, you people out there
who pick up your phones, unlock them, click on an app,
then go find our page, then click the comment, write
(26:40):
something hateful, hit send, and then go back to whatever
you were doing. For that, you all actually are having
an impact on how we behave day and day out
of our lives. And that's that's too bad. It's the truth.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Yeah. I mean, I'm not proud of it. I wish
I could and I'll be fine, but it's just I was.
I was mad at myself for caringpen.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
You're human beings, You're humans.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
It's time to hear her side of the story.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
I love the show so much. I was like, please
throw my name in the mix.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I need to be in on this. We were sure
she was going to be the next bachelorette and then
something changed.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I'm keeping things very very hush hush.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Fans of The Bachelor know exactly what we're talking about.
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Maria Georgis on Bachelor Happy Hour.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I have to ask.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
I heard a rumor that you were dating at one
point one of Drake's best friends.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Oh we have more, Sammy.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
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Speaker 1 (27:57):
Monday Night, you.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Mentioned j Loo and Jlo's a human being and you
your daughter and Elise was the one like weeks ago,
maybe the month ago, people hate j Lo, Like, what
are you talking about? She kept telling us. People are
canceling Jaylah.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
They're going on TikTok and they're making videos making fun
of her and they're imitating her and they're laughing at her,
and they're calling her a poser and all sorts of names,
like is she even really from the Bronx? And I
just thought, what is happening? What? And you know, Jlo
is promoting her new tour, she's promoting her her life
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and her love and she's telling her story and you
know she's putting it out there one hundred percent and
you can have an opinion. Of course, that's you know,
part of being a performer and entertainer. You know that
people are gonna either like or not like it, but
it's it's gotten to a point where it's just it's
it's just to say it's not kind is even an
under statement. It's bullying, as you pointed out, like you
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can bully a celebrity. I actually really believe that. I
think some people think that that's not a thing, but
it is a.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Thing, because you know, a lot of people will disagree
with what you just said. That you are celebrity, you
are rich and famous, you got a burken bag on
your arm. What do you have to complain about? You
mad that I sent a nasty com You can't handle that,
I think. But what was important in what you said
(29:29):
was that you can bully a celebrity, And you can
bully a celebrity, but it's hard to bully a mother.
It's hard to bully a wife. It's hard to bully
a husband. It's hard to bully an uncle. It's hard
to be when you call people by what they really are,
which is a human being, you're not so quick to
do so. You have to dehumanize the person first. She's
just a celebrity, she's another she's a thing, she's a
(29:51):
That's the only way you can talk about people because
if you talk about people, if you see them as
a human being, as a mother, who's who hurts or
you just wouldn't talk about people that way. So to
your yes, I agree with what you're saying, but people
are going to take issue with it because no, Bellie,
you can't bullieve celebrity. You're out there in the public.
Of course, we can say anything you want to say
(30:12):
about you.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
It's almost as if you become public property and public fodder,
and you almost not. I'm not going to say that
people think you deserve it, but certainly they think you
should be able to handle it. But we're all you know.
I always tell the girls this too, and I when
stuff like this comes up, when we talk about it,
I say, it doesn't matter who you are. You have feelings,
you have a heart, you have you know you have,
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no matter how thick your skin is. Just because you've
chosen a career to perform or to be in the
public eye doesn't mean that you deserve to handle or
to deal with hatred. That's a whole other, a whole
other kind of worms that I don't think you can
equate to. As you point out a human being, it's
I think it's just easy to put people in a
box or up on a pedestal, and it's fun to
(30:56):
knock them down. It's fun to see them fall. But
having been in that position, I think, you know, I've
always we've known that as human beings, but the empathy
is even greater, and it doesn't matter who you are,
It doesn't matter how much money you make, it doesn't
matter where you live. I still think that it's important
for us all to remember that we're human beings, and
(31:17):
my god, I hope we can treat each other better
than I've seen online.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
So yeah, on Analyse was the one who was talking
about this over the past few weeks, and then it
got us curious enough to where we finally watched This
Is Me Now her movie. It's promoting her album, promoting
her essentially her love story or her love story with
Ben Athletic, but also just her relationships. Her a love addict.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
She is exploring, you know, and look, you know she's
had three husbands, and I guess she's had three divorces.
Excuse me. Ben is her fourth husband, and everyone her public,
her relationships, you know, her engagements, it's all been obviously
in the public, and I think she she wanted to explain,
you know, her life and her goal and she said
(32:01):
when she was a little girl that when she grew up,
she wanted to be a woman in love and so
that was kind of what motivated her. And yes, she's
you know, had issues along the way, haven't we all.
And she put it out there and people can comment,
and I get that, but I just think the level
to which they've commented that the ridicule has just gone
(32:22):
way above and beyond just an opinion about a movie
or an opinion about music. That's fine. Everyone can music,
that's fine.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
But we like the movie that's great.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Agreed, and we all have opinions about that, but you
don't have to be cruel about it.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
So, yeah, it was just something about it. In watching
that video, which you can see she can go that
means she's just a ridiculous entertainer. She's unbelievable. But to
go through it and see your heart, at least me,
heart kind of hurts for to see what maybe she
felt she was trying to accomplish completely backfired and now
(32:59):
here this thing is it just it is something about
it that was relatable to us to a certain degree.
But heart goes out to her. So with all that, folks,
all you can say there is it doesn't matter if
it's j Low, it doesn't matter, if that's the person
at the checkout counter. It doesn't matter if there's somebody
on the street, on the bus, wherever, somebody's everybody's going
through something. And I always say it, just give folks
(33:19):
a little bit of a break.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
And you know what, Mom said it best if you
don't have something nice to say, don't say it at all.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Oh I didn't have anything nice, so I stopped
Welcome everyone to Amy and TJ. And TJ is already
laughing at me because I have my broadcasting voice. I
can't help it.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Why do you okay? Starting it? Okay, let's pretend like
we're starting all over and you like talking to me
at home.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Hey, welcome, I don't know, it feels weird. Welcome everyone.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
It's so hard to be natural, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
When it when it comes to an intro, Yes, you're
usually punching it with some energy. I don't know, almost
thirty years of broadcasting experience. You go into broadcasting mode.
So yes, again, it's okay. Proof is in the pudding.
All you're doing is making sure that you start every podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
You see how you just that just came out naturally?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Right? You have been I say this to you coaching me.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
No, not coaching, but I say this to you all
the time. When we were on GM A three, sitting
on the set and before we start the show and
there's counting out five four three, and I'm talking to you,
I'm like poking. Just as soon as the show starts,
the cameras come on and our MIC's come up, we're
in the middle of conversation, and that's when you are
nailing because you're at your best. You ain't thinking about it.
(01:16):
You're not looking at a prompter. You just boom and
you just go boom. But we Andy was the one here,
our producer in the room. He said, you know what, Amy,
I think you got this today. You can do it.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
And I thank you Andy, thank you very much for
that encouragement.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I've ever heard a ringing endorsement.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Andy, I thought you were good enough but not great,
but not terrible. You know who was great today?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Homes Oh you all, yes, Beanie bean. Today was a
very big day. We are recording. We hustled here because Sabine,
eleven year old had her first ever track meet and
her first ever athletic competition in her young life. Was
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today an official track meet that we have been working
on and training for for weeks, her for months, but
we've been going out really hard with her on the
track for the past couple of weeks and so.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
It was awesome. It was it was. There are those
moments you're coaching your kids. You're hoping that they're joways,
just going to give it their all. You're hoping that
you don't want necessarily a victory. You just want them
to give it their all. Right, that's what you're trying
to do.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
So we wanted to win though, don't get me wrong, yeah,
one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
But anyway, you're not telling them that, You're just saying
all I care about is that you give it your all.
And so it's been really sweet to watch TJ getting
up really early with Sabine pretty much every morning for
the last several days, going to a track with was
not easy to find in New York City, by the way,
in Manhattan, and getting her out onto a real track
(03:07):
and training for the two hundred meter and timing her
and her splits and helping her with her form, and
she was such a good student. Not every kid takes
direction well from a parent, especially, But I watched it
all happen. And today was the track meet. She was
(03:27):
in the two hundred and TJ tell us what happened.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
She won her heat.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah, I mean, she's got legs for miles, she's got
your body. You call her. Your nickname for her is
so cute, stix. She just got these She's all legs.
I mean, she was built to be a runner. I
mean it's just it's and it's so sweet. To see
her just look at you and look for your direction.
(03:54):
She knows her daddy knows how to run races now,
and so it's just it's so sweet to see it happen.
And how sweet is it that she actually won. That
is rare and cool and should be celebrated.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Every parent can relate to that. You want you look,
you do want your kid to win, of course, but
oftentimes that's for you, right, that's for the parents. I
want my child to win. I could be proud, but
I just wanted her to be able to feel good
about the race that she ran. And the last thing
is to run your race. Do not worry about where
any other kid is. Run your race and you're gonna
be okay. And sure enough, she ran her race. There
(04:28):
was a kid and you saw this. There was a
day that we went out to practice with her. The
one day I went and she was like she was dying,
like she's just gonna throw up, and she was hurting.
It was just pain, like running hurts, right, it does. Today.
I saw her as another kid was approaching in the
straightaway and that two hundred meter was catching up with
her and she was slowing down. You could tell she
(04:48):
was struggling, and she kicked into another gear when she
saw that other kid. And that was a great life
lesson for her to see that I can push through
something and to watch her do it. I didn't have
to encourage her or anything. She learned something about herself today.
That was That was the best part of the day.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
I also agree that teaching your kids, if you put
in the practice, you put in the work. It doesn't
mean you're gonna win, but you have a better shot
than most when you put the work in. So she
did it. She got up early, she went in all
kinds of weather, and it paid off. And that's an
also very important lesson for folks to learn. She did
(05:26):
just wake up and yeah, she's got long legs and
she ran faster than everybody. No, she worked at it.
She she wanted on her form, and she got up
and did the hard thing. So I love those types
of lessons. Win or lose, there are great lessons to have,
but it's maybe even a little extra sweet when it's
a win.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
It was fun to us and we were leaving here
immediately to go celebrate with her, to go party. She's
holding onto the champagne. She's not gonna pop it until
we get there. So that's Frue. You're standing by texting
as we speak. She's having a good time. But today, folks,
on this episode, we are gonna we're gonna quickly tick
through a few topics that have gotten us interested, worked up, sad,
(06:04):
even to a certain degree. But Robes has worked up
about new breast cancer screening guidelines. A former GMA colleague
of ours has now been fired. We have something in
common with Jelly Roll, and we want to give a
collective hug to Jlo Lopez. We're gonna hit those things
(06:26):
here in the next few minutes. So let's start at
the top here. Breast cancer screens. We've done a couple
of episodes. Everybody knows you're a breast cancer survivor and
you've talked about this for a long time. But now
this task force, they are the authority on breast cancer screenings.
They have now gone back on guidelines that they gave
us what ten years ago, Please tell forty year old
(06:49):
women now should be getting breat cancers.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
They have flip flopped so many times, and that is
my biggest frustration because it is already confusing, and then
they just make it more confusing, and so when I
ended up getting my screening, my first mammogram at forty,
it was only because of my job Good Morning America.
They asked me to do that, just to show women
to start Breast Cancer Awareness Month that at forty you,
(07:14):
I mean, Robin Roberts was the big impetus for this.
You should get your baseline mammogram. But that went against
what the US Preventive Services Task Force suggested, which was
fifty if you had no family history, if you were
of average risk.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
And that's been the case for the past, that's been
in place with.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Ten years, yes, and there was a time where I
believe the American Cancer Society said forty five. So it
just you know, look, busy women, busy lives, and who
wants to go to the doctor and get a test
they might not need or probably don't need in their minds, right,
So if you tell me I can wait till I'm fifty,
I'm waiting till I'm fifty. If it hadn't been for
my job, I would have waited until I was fifty
(07:51):
or until I had symptoms, which is usually when it's
too late. So I credit just knowing other breast cancer
survivors and how having a work assignment. That is the
only reason I found my cancer at the age of forty.
And just for the record, at the age of forty,
a seemingly healthy young woman with no family history, I
had it. I had two malignant tumors, it had already
(08:13):
spread to my limp notes. So that's just the reality
that so many other women are facing. So if you're
told you can wait to your fifty, you've got ten
years now, where that's not time you can spare if
you're already if you already have breast cancer. And the
only way the best test we have right now is
a mammogram. So anyway, they've now said, hey, ladies, whoops,
(08:35):
Now you should go at forty. And there is still
a sticking point that's angering a lot of medical professionals
who work with breast cancer patients. They're saying every other year,
not every year. And the problem is when this task
force makes these types of recommendations, it affects what doctors recommend,
it affects what insurance companies will cover, and it definitely
(08:57):
affects women living and dying. And they said, just by
this was some medical professional said, just by changing the
guidelines from fifty to forty. They believe that that could
have a significant impact on women surviving breast cancer.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Okay, you've changed the guidelines from fifty to forty, but
you're saying every other year at forty versus every year
at forty. Yeah, I mean, I mean what it isn't
somebody going to argue? And so in five years, this
task force are going to come back you say, you
know what, we should do it every year starting exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
There was a doctor who was quoted saying, we can
save even more lives, up to nearly twenty percent more
lives with this updated strategy. There is no new information
out there. This is just a group of they're actually
a volunteer group of folks, most of whom do not
treat breast cancer patients at all, making these recommendations. And
it has a huge financial impact on the insurance companies,
(09:48):
on the doctors, on the medical professionals. So there's just
so much at play here, and the reality is the
most important thing that should be at play is a
woman's life. And that is what's frustrating to me that
the only only reason they claim, oh there's unnecessary testing,
there's unnecessary anxiety for younger women who have dense breast tissue.
That's why we're only saying every other year, because they'll
(10:09):
be unnecessary tests and unnecessary worry. You know what, all
take being worried, All take getting a false positive to
find out I don't have preast cancer versus not getting
the test at all and not knowing I have breast cancer.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Well, you're speaking again too, You're you're speaking from an
experience you have, and I understand obviously your passion, But
what do these folks again, I don't not familiar with
whose this group is, how they get on this task force?
But are they not to you talk about the money aspect.
There's a financial aspect and there is like some influence
possibly on this group. So you're taking a lot of
(10:44):
people can't see what you did. But I am on
the outside to a certain degree and not as entrenched
as you are to where I think, well, surely these
people are trying to do what's best. Surely they only
have the interest of women's health and lives in them
in their mind.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
They are saying that with the cost of it as well,
without a doubt, And I would just argue, you can't
put a price on a mother, on a sister, on
a daughter, And this is breast cancer affects men as well.
The mammogram issue, though, is what we're talking about, and
that is for women. And so when I speak to that,
I just say, I don't think you can put a
(11:20):
cost on a woman's life. And of course I am
coming at it from a very subjective point of view,
knowing specifically that I would have waited until I was fifty,
and had I done that, I don't know that I
would be here today.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Okay, but that's from where you're your standpoint, and you
say it that way, you count it that way. But
it is a very good chance if you followed the
guidelines that were in place previously, you would not be
alive today.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Okay, so that's where the passion.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
It's understandable. Yes, So anyway, I applaud them finally making
it forty. I don't applaud the fact that they're saying
every other year. I think that is cost saving. And
they can say it's about unnecessary test, which again is
cost but they're also claiming that they're saving women from
undo anxiety from a false positive. I say, save me that,
(12:06):
I'll handle my own anxiety, give me the test.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Well, So, I mean we're not the ones in the business.
We've had doctors on here, we had you're on colleges
on here, We've had doctor Coleman on here. Of course,
they are the ones the experts who can give you
the advice or whatever you should do with this, and
who you should We can't give that. All we can
do is tell you that they're now saying women, you
should go get mammograms starting at forty and you should
(12:31):
get it every other year. That's all we can do,
right tod.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
And I would just say, as someone who's been through this,
I just want every woman out there to feel empowered
to push for the healthcare that they want to receive.
And I think anyone, any doctor worth anything, is going
to support that and understand that allowing women to have
access to mammograms is in a very important part of
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our health care.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
You say that thing about like women to be empowered.
This is I've didn't plan on doing this now, but
I will because you said that and it triggered it.
Empower women. I have seen what's the name of the
medicine you need to live sinthroid, synthroid all right, you
have to have You have been trying to get your
(13:27):
prescription of synthroid for.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
How long it's been like two months?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Okay, And the reason you can't get it is because it's.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Just a frustrating medical system. I think a lot of
people can understand this. You've got doctors who are overworked
and they've got a big caseload and they don't keep
track of their patients to an extent. And so, yes,
I was out of my synthroid. This is for a
thyroid condition I have. And I got the blood work,
I did everything I was supposed to, and there's just
all of there's just constant red tape, and there's just it.
(13:56):
We're busy, and so if someone puts a hurdle in
front of me and says calls me back and says, hey,
you have to now have a physical and I said, well,
I just did my blood work. Well now she won't
renew the prescription because you have to come in again
for a physical when I just had one a few
months ago. It's just there's all this paperwork and all
this red tape, and then you think you get the
test you need and then they tell you we're not
giving you the prescription. Unless you come in and do that,
(14:18):
it's just it's just a non stop.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
You you had a synthroid.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
They wouldn't renew it again, even though I just got
my blood work last month.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Okay, what happens if you don't take synthroid?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Eventually? Yeah, my body would eventually shut down. It would
take a long time.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Well, but your brother was testing about it.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
So during the pandemic, I yes, de point, this is
my only wake up call to it. So I've had
I've been taking synth rid since I was twenty nine.
After my first baby, my byroid completely depleted. So I
think it's called hashimotos or something like that, but anyway,
I have to have it, so I stopped taking it. No,
(14:58):
that's the name of the thyroid syndrome. My you're getting
nods from Emma and from Andy. I'm not making it up.
I didn't just make up a word. So during the pandemic,
I was just it was hard to get a hold
of a doctor, and so I thought, what would happen
if I just stopped taking it? Really dumb idea. No
one ever do this. And it took I think two months,
(15:20):
and all of a sudden, I was like weak and
shaking and almost fainting. I could barely function, and I realized,
oh my god, I stopped taking the synthroid. I called
my brother, who's a physician. He's like, you're a moron,
And I said, could I die if I never take
in throat again? He was like, yes, you eventually would.
Your thyroid regulates your entire body. It would take a
(15:40):
while and it wouldn't be fun. I didn't ask him, well,
tell me that.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
No, really, what are we talking months? We're talking years,
talking decades?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
No, not decades. I mean, I don't know how long
it would take. What I'm saying, end of the world,
I'd be in trouble.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
But no, you you'll are saying this that you need
something to live, and you have doctors making it difficult
for you to get the thing you need to live.
That is a problem. And look, I know you are
sitting We're sitting here in a very privileged situation with
the best doctors in the world and access and healthcare
and all these things. That's great, But for you, you need
(16:14):
something to live. And I have heard you on all
these phone calls. I'm like, what the hell?
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Why is this hard?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Why is this hard.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I don't know. I think so many people out there though,
who have to have medicine to actually yes, as you
point out, live understand it can be a frustrating, arduous task.
Even if you do all the things you're supposed to do.
They lost the paperwork, you have to come back in again,
you have to come into somewhere else to get blood work.
It's just it's it's exhausting. But yes, I would like
(16:43):
to live, so I will get I will get the synthroid.
Trust me. It's just gonna take a few more steps.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Apparently, Yeah, apparently we're gonna have to plan a heist
to go get this stuff, all right, but any that's
one thing. But yes, the breastkinds of screening is if
you don't know, ladies, read up on it, look at it,
and please talk to your doctor. But because the guidelines
have changed once again. The other thing we mentioned want
to talk about today is it's getting around and making
some headlines. But it has to do with a former
(17:11):
colleague of ours who, according to the headlines at least,
has been let go from ABC News and Good Morning America,
where he worked as a meteorologist for the past ten years.
Talking about Rob Marciano. Now, the details of it you
can go read for yourself. Not going to repeat a
lot of that stuff, but we know he's not working
(17:32):
that any there anymore. We were with somebody just had
a breakfast the other morning where somebody reminded us, hey,
nobody leaves ABC News in a pretty fashion. That's exactly
what they said.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Word for word. And yes, it's it's a tough situation. Yes,
we have walked down that road and it's not an
easy one. And I know he also has and I
think he might still be going through a divorce. So
we know what it's like to have your entire life
up ended, career and personal life. So and we both
have known Rob for a long time. You've known him
(18:04):
longer than I have.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
We were at starting CNN in two thousand and six.
He was there, and we spent all those years together
at CNN. A lot this his He could pull out
his phone now and his phone is flooded with messages
from me over the past decade of me complimenting him.
He is one of the best guys I've ever seen
in the field covering weather. He is just good. He
(18:26):
is good at it, and I've always marveled, and I
like people who can handle live like that too, So
we don't obviously we don't know all the details, and
some of them that are out there are a little
sketchy and sallacious and and tabloid type clickable headline stuff
that we are not going to get into. But whatever
it is, it's we hate to see somebody who's been
(18:51):
a friend and colleague for a long time end up
in this place's position to be talked about the way
he's being talked about to some degree. But like I said,
that was a weird statement to get just yesterday.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Yeah, and it's you know, and you said it best.
It's not our place and we would never make it
our place to comment specifically on any of the details,
but we do know what it's like to have those
headlines to be the subject of clickbait, and that's a
tough position for anyone to be going through, especially someone
who is a father of two. I know how much
(19:25):
he loves his kids. He talks about them all the time,
so it's just tough to see those headlines almost for
the sake of his family, his kids, him, all of that,
So our heart goes out to him, and I agree
he is. There's no one, you know. I mean, he
can weather from a tornado to a hurricane to a snowstorm.
He's been through it all, Yes, and he happily jumps
on those planes and rolls up his sleeves and puts
(19:48):
on those rubber boots and reports on everything for so
many people at the expensive of time with his family.
So I do applaud all the work he has bravely
done over the last decade or so, and we wish
him the very best.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
No matter what. We don't know all the details, so
it's not some defense of anything he has or hasn't done.
It's just a matter of you just you just hate
to see it in that way for somebody. But that's
something that's and of course people immediately start sending us
messages and hey did you see this? And you know
this is going on because of our connection to that place.
So that's there. The is this a happier note? Jelly roll?
(20:29):
Jellyroll is off social media? Well, he jumped off, so
he's he said he is in a better mental place
and healthier because he stopped looking at social media. Who
can relate to that?
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah, we had a year hiatus and I have to say, yeah,
I loved it. It took you know, you get into
it's almost like a muscle. You're flexing when you're posting,
and you're you're sharing and you're and then when it
bites you in the ass, there is a freedom to
walking away from it. I hate why and why he
(21:06):
had to do it, because you know, look, this is
a dude who I loved reading about the fact that
he's about to run a five k next month. I
believe for charity, so it's for all the good reasons,
and he has been very public saying I think he's
already lost seventy pounds. I mean, we are always applauding
better health choices and taking it on and owning it
and being proud of it and inspiring other people and
(21:27):
doing so, but sadly, in doing so, people always have
to make comments, and the comments about his weight it
was counterproductive and I can only imagine what that must
feel like. I mean, Flavor Fight Flave just came out
and said, y'all just took a beautiful sweet man and
he fled social media because of y'all, Like, what are
(21:48):
you doing?
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Why?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
The hate?
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Why?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
And there's like not a nicer guy, and that's what
everyone is saying. I don't know him personally, but everyone
who has spoken of him speaks so highly of him
and what he's trying to accomplish. And it's just it's
sad and sick to me that people jump on that, Oh.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Look his struggle, his journey has been well documented and
applaud him for being out there about it and his
success right now, Oh, his talent, but his success, it's
just you you I don't know. Yeah, you're happy for
him and do your thing. It's just we have, without
a doubt, been in that position that he was in,
(22:28):
in that you're looking at things online and you're supposed
to be strong, You're supposed to be able to be dismissive,
you're supposed to be able to say, oh, that person
is just some some loser in their basement somewhere, Da
da da. You do that. But those are the things
that absolutely hurt, and they hit and I have It
(22:49):
was a very big part, you know, this, of my
recovery insanity, when I got advised not to read anything
very early on, just don't read or listen to anything
that was so important than me recovering and still now
I hesitate to do anything on social media like I'm
I hate to admit that, but absolutely I am. I
am shying away from it for those reasons. It's not
(23:11):
a matter of Korean public public eye. We expect criticism,
we get it. But there's a difference between criticizing I
didn't like how you did that interview, why didn't you
ask about this, versus you're an idiot, You're you should
go to You're going to burn in hell for how
you handle it. That's different. That is the type of
stuff that makes it very difficult to keep engaging.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Yeah, and you know, I didn't even tell you this.
I kind of touched on it when I first came
into the studio. But last night I told you I
was looking at our Amy and TJ podcast Instagram feed
just to just see how we were doing and just
to see what the different clips were, and I saw
some I don't usually look at comments, but I saw
(23:54):
some comments about my appearance. Look, we're not in a studio,
I don't have parent makeup, I don't look the same.
You know that. Maybe I looked when I was on
Good Morning America and there was just some really hateful
comments about how I look like what that I've aged tremendously,
that I that I that they can tell I'm an
(24:17):
alcoholic because my face is all puffy and my eyes
are swollen, and you know, just like and I started
reading it and I and it kept me up, like
it kept me up, and I had a hard time
going to sleep, and I thought, why am I looking
at this? So I think people just need to realize,
like it hurts, and it's not you know, and I'll
(24:38):
get over it and I'll be fine and it's but
I was like, Okay, I need a I need a
ring light on this, on this on this webcam we
have or I need to do. It really affects people,
and I just I just wish I'm not trying to
be Pollyanna here, but I just wish people could be
kinder and keep your negative thoughts to yourself. I know
that's a silly, crazy request, but you just it. It
(24:59):
doesn't matter who you are, if your jelly rolled, if
you're j Lo. Yeah, those types of comments eat away
at you. And I'm not saying you don't you know,
we put ourselves in the public eye. I get that
you put yourself out there. You have to be you know,
ready to handle criticism.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I get that there's a difference between criticism and hate.
Seeing critique and bullying, there's a totally different thing, and
that different thing, that other thing is. I think what
has run jelly rolled off? It's run some people off.
But I don't know how much thicker skin.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Yeah, I mean we don't post as much. I don't
post anywhere near as much.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I don't at all. And you know what, And I'm embarrassed.
This is embarrassing. I don't post as much about you. Yeah,
that's up. Yeah, it really really is. I'm happy and
I'm proud of who I'm with. And but to shout
it from the mountaintop, I'm not shouting. I'm just a
post here or there. It's just I don't know. That's
that's too bad, And that's people people got on that
(25:58):
gown to me, but they saw all years prior. He's
not posting about his marriage. He's not posting about his wife.
There was a reason for that, right, and then because
something wasn't going well, because I wasn't trying to put
on a false impression that everything was cool. Now that
everything is great, I'm still holding back right because of that,
(26:20):
and that just that sucks. I'm embarrassed if that's the case,
but it is. Yes, they yes, you people out there
who pick up your phones, unlock them, click on an app,
then go find our page, then click the comment, write
(26:40):
something hateful, hit send, and then go back to whatever
you were doing. For that, you all actually are having
an impact on how we behave day and day out
of our lives. And that's that's too bad. It's the truth.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Yeah. I mean, I'm not proud of it. I wish
I could and I'll be fine, but it's just I was.
I was mad at myself for caringpen.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
You're human beings, You're humans.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
It's time to hear her side of the story.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
I love the show so much. I was like, please
throw my name in the mix.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I need to be in on this. We were sure
she was going to be the next bachelorette and then
something changed.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I'm keeping things very very hush hush.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Fans of The Bachelor know exactly what we're talking about.
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Maria Georgis on Bachelor Happy Hour.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I have to ask.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
I heard a rumor that you were dating at one
point one of Drake's best friends.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
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Speaker 3 (27:45):
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Speaker 1 (27:57):
Monday Night, you.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Mentioned j Loo and Jlo's a human being and you
your daughter and Elise was the one like weeks ago,
maybe the month ago, people hate j Lo, Like, what
are you talking about? She kept telling us. People are
canceling Jaylah.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
They're going on TikTok and they're making videos making fun
of her and they're imitating her and they're laughing at her,
and they're calling her a poser and all sorts of names,
like is she even really from the Bronx? And I
just thought, what is happening? What? And you know, Jlo
is promoting her new tour, she's promoting her her life
(28:39):
and her love and she's telling her story and you
know she's putting it out there one hundred percent and
you can have an opinion. Of course, that's you know,
part of being a performer and entertainer. You know that
people are gonna either like or not like it, but
it's it's gotten to a point where it's just it's
it's just to say it's not kind is even an
under statement. It's bullying, as you pointed out, like you
(29:02):
can bully a celebrity. I actually really believe that. I
think some people think that that's not a thing, but
it is a.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Thing, because you know, a lot of people will disagree
with what you just said. That you are celebrity, you
are rich and famous, you got a burken bag on
your arm. What do you have to complain about? You
mad that I sent a nasty com You can't handle that,
I think. But what was important in what you said
(29:29):
was that you can bully a celebrity, And you can
bully a celebrity, but it's hard to bully a mother.
It's hard to bully a wife. It's hard to bully
a husband. It's hard to bully an uncle. It's hard
to be when you call people by what they really are,
which is a human being, you're not so quick to
do so. You have to dehumanize the person first. She's
just a celebrity, she's another she's a thing, she's a
(29:51):
That's the only way you can talk about people because
if you talk about people, if you see them as
a human being, as a mother, who's who hurts or
you just wouldn't talk about people that way. So to
your yes, I agree with what you're saying, but people
are going to take issue with it because no, Bellie,
you can't bullieve celebrity. You're out there in the public.
Of course, we can say anything you want to say
(30:12):
about you.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
It's almost as if you become public property and public fodder,
and you almost not. I'm not going to say that
people think you deserve it, but certainly they think you
should be able to handle it. But we're all you know.
I always tell the girls this too, and I when
stuff like this comes up, when we talk about it,
I say, it doesn't matter who you are. You have feelings,
you have a heart, you have you know you have,
(30:36):
no matter how thick your skin is. Just because you've
chosen a career to perform or to be in the
public eye doesn't mean that you deserve to handle or
to deal with hatred. That's a whole other, a whole
other kind of worms that I don't think you can
equate to. As you point out a human being, it's
I think it's just easy to put people in a
box or up on a pedestal, and it's fun to
(30:56):
knock them down. It's fun to see them fall. But
having been in that position, I think, you know, I've
always we've known that as human beings, but the empathy
is even greater, and it doesn't matter who you are,
It doesn't matter how much money you make, it doesn't
matter where you live. I still think that it's important
for us all to remember that we're human beings, and
(31:17):
my god, I hope we can treat each other better
than I've seen online.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
So yeah, on Analyse was the one who was talking
about this over the past few weeks, and then it
got us curious enough to where we finally watched This
Is Me Now her movie. It's promoting her album, promoting
her essentially her love story or her love story with
Ben Athletic, but also just her relationships. Her a love addict.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
She is exploring, you know, and look, you know she's
had three husbands, and I guess she's had three divorces.
Excuse me. Ben is her fourth husband, and everyone her public,
her relationships, you know, her engagements, it's all been obviously
in the public, and I think she she wanted to explain,
you know, her life and her goal and she said
(32:01):
when she was a little girl that when she grew up,
she wanted to be a woman in love and so
that was kind of what motivated her. And yes, she's
you know, had issues along the way, haven't we all.
And she put it out there and people can comment,
and I get that, but I just think the level
to which they've commented that the ridicule has just gone
(32:22):
way above and beyond just an opinion about a movie
or an opinion about music. That's fine. Everyone can music,
that's fine.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
But we like the movie that's great.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Agreed, and we all have opinions about that, but you
don't have to be cruel about it.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
So, yeah, it was just something about it. In watching
that video, which you can see she can go that
means she's just a ridiculous entertainer. She's unbelievable. But to
go through it and see your heart, at least me,
heart kind of hurts for to see what maybe she
felt she was trying to accomplish completely backfired and now
(32:59):
here this thing is it just it is something about
it that was relatable to us to a certain degree.
But heart goes out to her. So with all that, folks,
all you can say there is it doesn't matter if
it's j Low, it doesn't matter, if that's the person
at the checkout counter. It doesn't matter if there's somebody
on the street, on the bus, wherever, somebody's everybody's going
through something. And I always say it, just give folks
(33:19):
a little bit of a break.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
And you know what, Mom said it best if you
don't have something nice to say, don't say it at all.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Oh I didn't have anything nice, so I stopped
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