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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Black Fat Fem Podcast is a production of iHeartRadio
and Doctor John Paul LLC.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hey everyone, welcome to another episode of the black Belt
FM podcast where all the intersections of.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
A digity I celebrated. My name is John alson onas.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Doctor John Paul, and I just you know, it's just
that there's a lot going on. I mean, you got
monkeys on the loose, you got people putting stuff in
their booty hole, and then on top of that just
just crime is everywhere.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
But you know what, we're here in New York.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
We're here to celebrate, and so I'm very happy to
be here even with all of the best that we're
having to do with Jojo, how are you doing over there?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Good? It's not my camera camera. Yes, let's get y'all.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
As your girl Jordan ak Joh, I don't wanted to
tell you. Don Zula girl song, Donza reach On, Freg.
I am happy to be here in the studio with
you in New York City.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
We're here.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Hello, we get was so much fun and amazing.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Shout out to should.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
To three Bill Brooklyn. The club was our girl.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
New York met hb I see and we mar Even
though Raja wasn't giving. It did seem like she was like.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Ron am I giving absolutely nothing before the third voice
that you hear in the thirties. For those of you
who are watching, hello, they are to the YouTube world.
But for the third seed, we have our good friend
Tyreek told you who is here? They have I will
say I'm I Literally when they walked in, I was like, Okay,
(01:38):
don't fanger, don't fanger. I'm such a fan of Tyreek
and your content, and so I'm so happy that you
were like, yes, I'll come down to the studio and
record with you while you're in New York. This is
like a dream come true. So thank you for being here.
But yes, back to Raja, Raja just wasn't.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
She wasn't.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
So I think that that's that's just her demeanor. I
think her demeanor is just like, well, come.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Cool, collected, okay, calm, cool, flooded, unbothered the doll.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
I'm just saying, she's just like I'm here.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, it's you.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
She's like, I'm a winner, so why.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Else you know what? She is a winner?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
And in my head she I had not processed that
in my head in that moment, So okay, okay, she's
she's doing.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Over two decades now longer.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
See them three three then three three, So.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I feel like she's like, yeah, she's given. I would
say I did.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
I did say, Chris, you you cut this like it's
too colors to say. But if you would be like
once I've been agreeing for twenty years, Why am I
doing club appearances?
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Well that's why I'm like, why I'm in the club,
Why am I here? Why?
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Why am I here right? Doing appearances?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
DJ the reason I'm not here to do an appearance
to the club, like I was Roger booked or was
she just there? She was? She was because because the
feature was her. New York were doing me and greet.
But I wonder why. I think that's the question.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Also, what's their relationship together? What's their cadence?
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah? I would love to do they meet beforehand? Just
like are they sisters? Are they sisters?
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Feel like New York is like heavily involved in like
the queer especially in California.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Exactly in California, but not here. So I was like,
it's Roger New York girl though okay, JK, see, I
don't know any anyway all that.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Anyways, he had a really great Halloween. Thank you New
York for really just showing us a really good time
the entire weekend with here. We were also here for
the Full Figure Awards, and even though we didn't win,
it was still a really good opportunity for us to
be in the space with other folks who are doing
full figured work. So shout out to the field the
Full Figure Industry Awards and Towanna.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yes well, thank you the clear founder of it.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Amazing.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Everyone looks good there for Full Figured Industry Awards, the FFIA,
the Fas of the World.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Girl.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Okay, yes, well, we're happy to have you here. So
week you're doing good, happy to be here.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Well, then we're gonna give about shol we do every
week by giving a sister can about her flowers and
are still here segment the question for still her seven
today because we know that it is a wow wow world,
just so crazy world. These streets, you know, governments still
shut down. It's it's day one hundred and thirty seven
of it. It feels like are no no thirty one.
But y'all, I'm not, I'm not tragging.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I'm not.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
I'm just joking with it because it feels like it's on.
But it is day thirty.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Something that's want of come to MUTI comes out. You know,
Snap is Snap is being contested everywhere. Benefits actually may
still be here, thank god if they are, but it's
just a wild war. So the question I'll ask you
is what's something that you would want like that you
felt like when you have the first time was so
joyous and like that that you didn't want to rediscover
(05:05):
for yourself again, right Like think me won't go back
to you for the first the first time I did something, So.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
I'll go first for a little you a little preview,
then we'll go. So use everything John.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
For me, it was d d R Dances Revolution. I
wish I every discovered that joy for the first time because.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
D d R.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Like listen the way my finger happy feet was me.
I loved listening to d R. Like when I went
to an ArKade and they had to do against this revolution.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Oh, I was sad.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Give me there for hours, playing every single level using
all my tokens. I remember I begged, begged my parents
when I have my my PS two, I got me
the game and the dance man I could do it
at home.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
It was just so dope. I feel like nothing I was.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
I was like, I was like a d d R fiend.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Yeah, everything went to an Arcades, San Diego. And it
wasn't called d DR. It was like something else.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
But I was like, it's the same. And my feet
the work the way they used to the way.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I have two left feet these days, I said, I
was out here stumblings on on the thing. I almost
felt almoa fell off of it about then. But then
I was a title. It was a tight little thing
so I can step and be in the balance. But
this time I stepped almost fell off the the form.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
So it was not for me. But DDR was so sorry.
DDR was my thing.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
I loved it so very much, how about you. It
was around twenty eighteen.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
I think it was like the City Girls first album,
it's you know they low He radicalized me. But if
I could like listen to that first album for the
first time, I would do it.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Eighteen. I was like, it wasn't two.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
I was like, oh, it's the Girls you know for
me the first Yeah, yeah, maybe put my wig in
a rubber ban.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I'm like, oh I like them. Yeah. Are they from Miami? Yeah? Yeah,
all the time. Always have the memories. They once were
the Yeah they once were, Yeah, they once were. Now
it's just JT. Are they friends? I don't think. I
think they had to have falling out. There's a very
public one to but and Karesha got custody, Yes, Santana
(07:05):
so well, I was like, you know what I mean,
I won't say that, but yes, yes they did get Karsha.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Karsa did get that's always referencing Karsha.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
And in the songs that I his new album, they
mentioned Karsia several times the song right, and I'm like, no,
I love it, but I they're not friends.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
And then and then j T is out here doing
barsadchi trying to protect that man right wait.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
She did the one connected to who's the one that's
connected to Diddy?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Damn?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Okay, then never mind. I had to mixed up in
my head because I don't follow them, so I don't
know much about anything. So what brings you?
Speaker 1 (07:52):
That's the question? In hand?
Speaker 6 (07:56):
Drive there about to go down superable in this place,
Yeah there would.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Have been a hole.
Speaker 7 (08:07):
But the only thing I saw in that moment was
the police stand by. It literally said please stand by.
And then you were so what brings you, Joe, and
that took me down.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
But anyway, what brings me Joe.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I was thinking about the way I felt at Renaissance,
the like walk the movie, because I did go to
two shows. Shout out to me for that, but I
I do remember the feeling I had when I walked
into the and let's be clear, and when I walked
into the stadium, because not too many girls can say
that they can sell out a stadium now arena, they
are different. And so when I walked into the stadium
(08:44):
and I looked around and I saw the sea of
just silver and blacks and the gold and all of that,
and it just it felt even though we weren't where
we are now, it was still very much attentious time
around twenty twenty, and it just felt like we were
all united for that one moment, like to not only
(09:05):
to celebrate Beyonce, but it just felt like Renaissance was
an album for us. Yeah, and I still to this
day like I played it actually funny enough, when I
was driving to the airport, I was like, let me
just go ahead and spend this again. And I listened
to it like probably every week at this point still.
But I was gonna say like it just felt like
there's something so kinetic about that album and not only
to me blackness, but also my queerness. And so I wish,
(09:28):
I just wish I could go.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Back to that and again I still have it, but
it would be cool to relive that moment again of
being able to see Beyonce coming up out of the
stage and that that energy that was in the stadium,
you know, around everyone being there for Renaissance.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
So I had that I really feel did you see this?
Did you see the concert?
Speaker 5 (09:45):
I didn't go to the show, but Renaissance might be
my favorite Beyonce album. And that's saying a lot because
I loved Beyonce in my whole life.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
On the wall, so yeah, I think I always tell
people like, to me, it's the most powerful album of
like of of I think of her music and formiable
albums in my life. Like I feel like it's an
album that I always felt proud to be queer.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
But is an album wrong, Like being queer is the gift?
Like this this is the gift.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
The gift is album album.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
It's a great album, but to the game, yeah, this
is the girls all.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah, she very much. I mean, she introduced herself with
what was it is a little dressed up, the freaking dress.
But we were in the room.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
We were in the room before, she said, she said,
don't don't stand back now. She said, well now we
have y'all filled up with some joy, filled up with
some JOYA one quick one, quick girl, quick, I said,
one quick one, great quick break.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
I'm back more with Tyree and just su.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
All right, so we are black and I am again
just the static that you're here. Tyreek, and I could
not not have you on the show and talk pop
culture with you because I feel like so much of
what you do you give commentary to pop culture, but
I think you do it in a way that feels
very and I think that's the reason why I'm such
a fan of you and what you do. And I actually,
I don't know what, I don't know what the name
(11:33):
of the show was, but I saw a clip coming
into this where you were talking about your journey and
about you know, putting your stuff online and just saying
I'm gonna just say it from the heart. I feel
like even when you're just talking about quote unquote nothing
like you're just talking about you know, asteroids and you're
talking about I know, you talk about lot about the.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Planets, you can talking a lot about Pluto.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
You still doing with so much fervor and so much
like you have, you have something to say, and I
just love that. I you know, so I literally said,
you know, considering we have been through so much this year,
we only have seven more Fridays until it's Christmas, you
can't say I didn't let you know it's coming, right.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
I would love to start by.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Asking you, what do you think was the most surprising
or most influential pop moment that you've seen this year?
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Oh? But what what's happened this year? The Diddy trial?
T yeah, tea, Yeah, I'm gonna give it to Diddy.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
Yeah, you know, we learned so much about him.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Maybe that much, maybe too much?
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Not maybe we definitely we learned too much because I
don't need to know that much about any one person.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
You know.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
The escorts told their side of the story, and of
course my heart goes out to the victims. I don't
want to downpload that, but this was a lot. It
was a bag of mixed nuts. So it wass on
the nuts.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Because I'm there. That is going to be the title
of this episode.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
And this is it's also like it become a punchline too,
Like I'm thinking of like in in the Drama uh
In album right.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
When she's when she's this idea and she mentions that
heard did he uh your heads?
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Part these albums, she has a song called I Think
Pretty impetty.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yeah, I'm pretty I'm pretty impettious.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Yeah I'm pretty impettious.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, And it's basically a disc to this other girl, Bea,
who was a rapper. Yeah, that was like the punchline
and Cardi.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Yeah, we don't know you so like and and one
on one the line, one the line, she's like, she's like,
why you always at Diddy's house?
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Heard he came up? Calmed that little kiddy out because you.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Know on came I was like, so she used words.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
I was like, smart card it was a bar.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
But like my point is it's been a punchline for
people as well.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
To wait pop so is being the girl who. I
guess it said that Cardi stole her beat or something.
There was a there was a track that Cardi had
released before she released the album, and and I think
someone was saying that Carti used her track.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
One could say, be A is a what can it
be as a carbon version of Cardi. Oh could say that.
I'm just wondering.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
I don't say she's in her own lane.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
She's just trying to get some more traction in that
lane of hers. But she really blew up a few
years ago when she did that song.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Well, Nikki gave her a.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Feature in that song more than her more Nikki the
money in this month.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, yeah, it was okay. So so it was as
beat be a song first just to go to the
bludga bla something something. It's a whole lot of money
and there's okay, and hopped on a feature on and
(15:12):
that blew her up, honestly. And then and then she
performed actually for Savage for Savage fenty, I think season four.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I actually like to be I don't want to downplay.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Yeah, that's very right.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
You just don't know her redacted not covering copy.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I think because when I first hear her, Oh, she
remarked cam Cardi in a lot of ways, which I
really like think is is a good, good thing.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
But I guess they have a beef now.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
She said, well, it's making beefing with somebody to now
no not no, what name they had that summer want
to be what do you mean? I think it was
Thursday or Friday chicken? Any who?
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Okay, AnyWho? Sorry, I got a suicide track.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Let me say on task drove the boat, but it
dropped the boat, so let me ask you today we're
here on Vibes, me and person.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
I'm just silly like this.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I don't like serious people hate me uncomfortable, so my
bo should be this.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
This next one is like, what's the pop culture trend
that you may secretly love or secretly hate that's popped
up this year.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
I don't really have secrets, but you openly hate.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
To talk more about sitting on business, So.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I'm wonst say I hate it. I'm kind of just
too old for it. But like the whole six seven
thing that these kids are doing what I don't know?
I don't I don't know where I'm from. I don't
get the reference, but it's just everywhere six seven six seven?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I can when start doing this? It's the little heart
I know this mant. I was like, does this mean
you got money? Girl? This is my first time singing that.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
This is the kids in pictures by this and pictures
and it just means a little heart, And I'm like,
is this is what this is? Okay, well, I guess
I culture?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Then it's k pop South Korea.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Oh, the people who came up just came up in general.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
You said, shout out to soccer period. Okay, did you
know you know which group?
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Like?
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Was it was that Black Pink? Was it twy? Just
the caveop industry.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Are like this period?
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Okay, I mean listen, but we're done with six seven
that is when we're over which But do you know
what it means?
Speaker 1 (17:31):
I don't know anything about it. I just know what
exists in this moment. Joey producer, Joey can you Yes,
Joey knows. Somebody said brain lit. You know who am I?
Speaker 4 (17:47):
But who am I to judge?
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Joy?
Speaker 4 (17:48):
For people? I'm a lot more of them. If you
like it, I love it?
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Period?
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Amen? Amen?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yes, there are a lot of things that people do
that I don't love. And you love your poopos right
that part? Yeah, yeah, a shout out to everybody who
sends me. So that's the thing people do. They love
love coffee.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
But I'm definitely yeah. I was like, you can't you
can't drive the doll for coffee coffee water, but no,
let's not talk about it the girl.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Yeah, I mean, I'll tell you it's complicated for ice
vanilla red with oat milk and okay, okay, oh you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Okay, i'me with decap though, because I can't caffeine decap
on the milk and then them.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
As well too.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
It's my ship.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah, it's false or a pumpkin pumpkin maple. That's why
I've never had a pumpkin maple. But I've definitely here.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I have a very com.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
There's you can cancel me accordingly. I am so excited
that Starbucks is bringing back the egg. Please cancel me.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
I don't care.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
I'm gonna yeah, it's just I do not understand.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Then. I love it like joy. Yes, I prefer COQ.
Yes's good. Her best friends is Puerto Rican recipes some
my mom makes it every year. Yes, Puto Rican like
(19:29):
no American. We just got a lot of friends. Okay. York, yeah,
New York singing that all day walking through these burrows.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
So my question that the question that I have for
you is, you know I have seen you give a
lot of thought online to AI generated homes, which I
think is fantastically funny, and other AI generated things happening
in the pop side. Guys, I would love to ask you,
now that I have you in person, considering how the
joke about a what's your thoughts on AI generated music,
(20:03):
art or content right now?
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Don't like it at all? I hate it as well,
but go off.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
I feel like there's like a gift that comes with humanity,
and I feel like AI can't replicate that, and I
don't think we should encourage that either. Like I've seen
people say things like content creators will use AI to
make captions and stuff you can't think of your own caption,
like you've got a brain.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
In there, use it.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Come on, But that makes it easier for me because
when you have original thoughts and everybody else is just
like a robot, of course you like me better. But no,
I don't like AA generated stuff. That's why I roast
their homes and stuff on sick time. Somebody has to
read you, so it might have to be me.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
It's just gotta being me. I scream the one that
you did with the pink it was like a pinkish
hue home and it had the open concept at the top.
That one was the one that had me on the ground.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
You I literally was screaming when you were talking about
the stairs.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
You just you literally hated the steers, like not going anywhere. Yes,
I remember that one.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Yeah, it was like the steers just went straight to
the ceiling and yeah, that's so stupid.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
But yes, absolutely was screaming about that. But I absolutely
love anything that you When you roast anything, it's really funny.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
But ultimately I love when you talk.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
About and I was like, part of the hilarities are
like like you're like your tone is so matter of fact,
like it's just something, and so like it's it's like,
obviously this is dumb, and so it's just like that
much funny when you pointed out how dumb it is,
Like you are the one who put me on to
the conversation about consent for drugs recently. Yeah, yes, the
(21:39):
girls are doing booty bumps out there, and you gotta
let your partner, No, don't just surprise them with coca
and the ass.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I'm sorry, my booty bumps and the coc put it
up your butt.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
And then you know, when I explained, say more just
like chopping up and then up there or it's like, yeah,
you have.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Put drugs in there, but and then like the Top no,
and then the top guitar because he's ocause he's your
or the Top will put drugs in the bottoms but
without letting them know. So the whole p s A
was like, if you want to do that, you need
to let your partner know, because no, the Fat Rabbit
Killer was like he made the p s A. And
I just kind of repeated it and added on that
(22:30):
is so we all know who Fat Rabbit Killer is.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
We have no idea who that wasn't really had no idea. Well,
now you know all his glory, you know.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Yeah, like I've read of her. I don't watch.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Supposed one of the more famous ones. He's in that world. Yeah, yes,
entertainment Dog know that, But I didn't know that he
was on that that wave link that they work together too.
Oh they have.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
They've had some scenes.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Yeah, okay I have for him, Wow, which was a
big deal.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
I think his first bottom Yeah the time, but it was.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
But it's not that people learning so much about me
in this moment, but people because about on the show.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
But like but and now he boboms a lot more
than that. You know, he's not unique anymore before that,
but he was naking that.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
You need to let.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Yeah, I just we follow each other when ro you know,
I will say this, Rahien is sweetheart, really kind to
a lot of people I know, and that's the thing
that makes me like he's good in my book, Like
yah sweet.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
I mean a lot of the performers are sweet.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
But I will say this, I.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Think that there's a stigma that follows people who do
sex work and the idea that you should look they
ship they're not good people because they do sex work.
And it's like, no, the two can co exist, right,
Just because you do sex work doesn't necessarily mean that.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
You're a terrorist person. Often people I think because like
these are some fringes. I think sagists are better than Christians.
But that's only like said, it's actually a matter of
like it's actually a matter of workforce, dement development justice.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Okay, I'm not saying we.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
I mean I'm down for like unizing to help us
well because I mean, I mean, let me come down.
It's not this is a not the podcast. It's about
sex worker rights.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
I mean it is.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
It is, like I mean, because because I really feel
like sex workers such a especially called making a conversation
right now, like it's happening everywhere too, right, and like
you know, like like when I was in Mexwell City,
they're like, I think there actually are some protections that
sex workers have, Like they don't have those here in
America much at all. And it's sad because like what
when like workers work regardless and also like you like,
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you're putting your body on the line in some ways
you should have safety for it, right and and I
mean so like and obviously I think in some ways
like like like I think, like ray Hen the workis
in probably does have some layers of protections and speaks
to when focus on the streets and do sex work,
they like that they have nothing to protect them, and
and like we should.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
I think I believe we should decriminalize it.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
I think it's I agree with that. Yeah, I feel
like as long as all parties and all their content and.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
As long as you're doing woody bumps, I think it's fine.
Long as we're not doing boy it's consensual booty. Yes,
I agree that somebody's ass Yeah I'm not. That's rude.
That's rude. Hilarious because I'm like, did you ever do
don't you ever do?
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Off my body?
Speaker 2 (25:22):
That will not tell you right now, I've already said this.
If you bring coke around me, I am going to scream.
I don't just just like I do like they do
it cow like that is.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
I mean, listen, tell me, tell me. You tell me
you had dr parent drug drug parents? But was the
drug tuition my dad?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
So I'm like, I'm not.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
I'm like, don't do y'all, it's not I will not
ill not do justice. I promise, not justice.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Scarity.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
I remember the first time I saw somebody do coke
in front of me, and I'm like, you're doing this
like it's normal, and I'm looking around.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I never realized I'm the only one freaking out.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
And I was.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
I was like, the gis track him.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I was like a friend's party a few months ago
and he was like, we're gonna we're gonna go your coco.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Do you want to come?
Speaker 3 (26:10):
And I said no and that and and then he
was like and he nails. He was like, cauld you say,
actually cauld she come me? Just cut up for me,
that said, baby, not cocing nails.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
So I want to make it clear because people like
what you're talking about consenting. I'm not passing judgment on
people who do coke. I'm just saying as for me,
it is not my every day So it is alarming
to me when I see people do it because ultimately,
again I didn't grow up around drugs like that, and
so it always is very alarming for me when people are,
you know, doing what they do, when they.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Do what they do, and I'm just not I'm just
I'm just personating for me. I'm just like a party person. Yeah,
like they'll enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
I love it for them.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Yeah, but if you want to break it, donut Okay,
Now that's that's of party. That's my type of part
of donuts.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Edibles that le amazing.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Shoutout to the doll. So we went. We were at
a party on Friday. A doll sold us a really
good edible.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Yeah it was good.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
I was what was her name, I cannot tell you,
but but so because her her costume was dispensary, which
was which I will.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Say I was like from a girl in the club.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
I sure did.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
But it was packaged and sealed.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
And I saying it was packaged and seal kind of
there was a part there was a part of me
that after I ate it and we were getting ready
to go in there to meet New York, I was
looking around and I was like, what if there's fitanl.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
In this, I might die before I meet New York.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
And I was processing it in my head of like
what would I do, and then like maybe I would
say an hour later, I was like, oh, I'm fine,
and then I literally went home and went to bed.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
So the I too was like this man that kills me,
I'd be so it could if I die, If I die,
he was just look but it was vibe yes.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Anyway, just put me to sleep, Like I don't really
get to see, like I have a two hour window
where I can be hype and pastors take me home.
Speaker 7 (28:11):
I will not.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
I will I'll pass out on the sidewalk.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Okay, So getting you know, getting back to the to
the subway hand, it's fun. I do want to ask
you what is what?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
What?
Speaker 3 (28:30):
What is a TV show this year you that you
watched to two part again you feel like was overrated
when you play was underappreciated.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
A TV show that I watched this year that I
watch my TV this year?
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Are you a TV girly?
Speaker 5 (28:43):
I used to be like I used to watch hours
and hours and hours of TV, but then around the pandemic,
I stopped watching TV.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Like now all I watch is Game of Thrones and stuff.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
But okay, so whens, like what is your media consumption choice?
Speaker 1 (28:57):
All right?
Speaker 5 (28:58):
So like I really just like watch a lot of
TikTok a lot of YouTube. Then like my guilty pleasure,
it's this really really ghetto streaming app.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
It's called Bigo. It's a live streaming appeah.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
And I'm not promoting the behavior up there because they
they found the line then just erase it like they
didn't take it.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
But it is federally entertaining. That's like it's it's it's
brain rot.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Really okay, So in the in the in the media
that you consume that what if this was like Tybreek
Awards and the Tyreek what you know, what what would
get entertainment of the year.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
And when we get the the year, I.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Would give Entertainer of the Year to a TikToker by
the name of Amoy the Goddess. Yes, you know, a
more very problematic, a very complicated person.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
You know, I'm not the best. Hmmm, questionable morals.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Definitely, but he she is thoroughly entertaining. She's trans this week,
and yeah, yeah, she has straddled every bit of the spectrum.
Boy was a heterosexual straight man when I first met
him six months ago, and then became bisexual two months later.
He's now trans and living as a woman with her
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boyfriend James, who was only there because he.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Needs a place to stay. It's complicated. It's complication. Yeah, yeah,
o A.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
I could never produce that that that's a human But
I would give amoy Entertainer of the Year, and I'm
a flop of the year, probably Shay the Apple Store queen,
only because she threatened me in my inbox.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Wait what Yeah, the one who used to dance in
the Apple Store tell us more.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
Well, you know the Apple Store. That was like fifteen
years ago. Since then, she's had her kids taken away.
She keeps getting evicted from like her apartment because you
don't pay her rent. She just gets some one to
talk live, begging her followers for money to get her
alcohol and crab boils, and you know, she curses people out.
I had made a video one time and I said
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that she was the queen of begtalk because she just
begs all day.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
And she inboxed me and like threaten me. Oh my girl,
fuck you. But anyway, well yeah, well well yes, meg
talk is a very trying me give. Like a whole
community of TikTokers who just begged for money all day
and they left the girl who said, like the one
who was like ice cream so good.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
Now see that's different because she's like actually getting gifts
through TikTok. I mean like literally online panhandlers like hey, y'all,
I need twenty dollars.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Cash at me, twenty five dollars. If you don't got it,
get out my live. They'll curse you off and killing
me right now. They will come up there and.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Ask for six thousand dollars. And I'm not exaggerating, just
the audacity.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
And if you try to like give them resource seaes
and like how don't give me, don't give me. I
don't want job, I don't want how they connect.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
I want cash. Yeah, give that meme. It's very much giving.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
That That is money to be anything this year that
may have challenged or changed your views, hmmm.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
I learned a lot about myself this year. I haven't
told so many people this, but six months ago today,
I quit my job and I became a full time
content creator. Yeah, so it's really hard to Yeah, that's
like definitely been a roller coaster, but my bills are
still paid, so yeah, so I'm like learning like how
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much of a.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Hustler I can be. Yeah, that might be like the
biggest thing that I took from this year.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
So yeah, I think there's like I mean, the serious
is funny because I love the one thing I love
about the show is we can balance foolishness with like
realness and like really really important And I think that's
the same thing I think about with this show. Like
I when I thought of this idea for the show
and I sold it, I didn't think it was really
gonna go where the heights of the show has been.
(33:13):
And I think it has taught me a lot about this.
And I think even watching you right, like like I said,
I watched that clip that you were on a couple
of weeks ago, and this idea of you saying like
just really fully investing in yourself and realizing that you
even if you don't think you have.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Something to say, someone else does.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Yeah, And I just I love that about you and
stories like yours, Like I genuinely, you know, I just
think one, I think you're funny, but I just think
there's there's such a knack for the way you do things,
and there's nobody in your lane. There's nobody in your lane,
and so it's just really cool to watch. I'm fangirling.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
I just love love everything you do. I think you
are so funny and very talented, and I think what
you're doing is going to take you. Like I said,
same way, I didn't believe in you know. I'm sure
you may feel that, but I do believe you're gonna
go somewhere.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Yeah, so yeah, one thing that lets me know that
I made the right decision. Like, I consume a lot
of media.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
I'm an Internet kids, and like when I see people
who like I've been watching for years acknowledge me and
shout me out like you with Jada XD, like what.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
You Yeah, y'all know me and y'all like what I'm doing?
That's like what lets me know I'm doing something right?
Speaker 7 (34:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Even being here, Like what am I doing here? When
the DM sun dances?
Speaker 8 (34:28):
To be at home watching Fat Rabbit Hilbert. But I'm
over here for a podcast with the other facts. You're
here with the the alternate fact.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
That's right? Do you have?
Speaker 4 (34:44):
So I have a separate question, but.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
I do want to, like IM prob a little bit
more just into like what like what what what? What?
Speaker 4 (34:52):
How do you make the decision to quit and go
for the full time being creator?
Speaker 1 (34:56):
There's a long version and there's a short version of
that story. Which one did you?
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Whichever vision we got the time?
Speaker 1 (35:01):
All right, we're here.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
So I had known for some time that, like, I
don't want to work forever. Like I get it, you
got to make money to survive, but I just want
I'm not a corporate person. My personality like corporate America and.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Me, we just don't really mesh. I don't think not
to cut you off, but I don't think it meshes
for a lot of black people. Definitely.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
The culture is not for black people in a lot
of ways. It's just it's very anti black, it's very antiquayer.
So I hear you wholeheartedly when you say that would
go off.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
Yeah, I think you need like a very specific personality
type to thrive in corporate America.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
And I just don't have it.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
So when I first started making money from social media,
I realized, maybe this could be my ticket out of here,
and you know, and like, no, I have nothing but
my past jobs I were great, they supported me and
all that too. But as my social media stuff started growing,
I was giving less and less of my attention and
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care to my job. So I came into work one
day and I checked my little Outlook calendar and I
realized my yearly review was happening that day. And I'm like,
oh shit, I know it's not going to be good,
because you know, I have self awareness.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
I know I'm not, you know, doing as good as
I could.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
And I said, you know what, I could either sit
down with my manager talk about everything that I've been
doing wrong this year and then just lie about the
things I'm going to do to improve, or I can
just quit.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
So I read the little invitation I wrote up my
resignation letter. We go into the meeting.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
My boss asked me, so, hey, Turck, did you read
your review? And I said, no, actually, I'm going to quit.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
So and that was that.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
They threw me like a little girl going away party.
Like they were again, they're super supportive. They're like my
boys said, you know, Tyree, you're like really you're a
really really cool guy, and like I could see if
like you weren't too happy here, and I really am
happy to see that you found something that could possibly
work for you.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
So you know, I could possible now, Oh okay, I
was gonna say, not the shade of it all. I mean,
I hope you like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
But I think a lot of people and I think,
so that's the I think there's also you know, I
don't know, are you I don't are you a millennium
agency millennial mini?
Speaker 1 (37:15):
But I'm thirty four?
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Okay, But I was gonna say, I think there's also
something to you in this idea of like the old
school way of success versus the new school way of success.
And I think that's the reason why I, you know,
every day I wake up, I'm I'm I'm choosing my
way of quote unquote success because I'm recognizing that a
lot of the ways, the pathways that we're told what
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success looks like doesn't it doesn't mesh for us.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Yeah, it's not a real thing.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
And so I'm also glad that you better, you know,
I think that's the real key in this part of
this interview is you know, betting on yourself and knowing
you have something when you see it and being able
to trust. I mean even this show was a true
us betting on us right to put the show out
into the world and say we have something to say
as you know, Black Fat fi ms and ultimately now
(38:01):
we're you know what for four time award winning podcasts now.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
So it's stuff like that, Like that's really inspiring.
Speaker 5 (38:09):
Like I always look forward to talking to like other
creative and people who just took that risk and made
it work.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
And we we are running with it, honey, I mean
I l okay, I mean like I'm at the place
where I have left my full time job for it
either because it's just like like I could not it
would be hard for me to like navigate the instability
of it all.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
But I know, like I know at some point the
decision may come or I'm like how, like how what what?
What am I investing more in this or like or
the or the work that I do right now?
Speaker 4 (38:45):
To me, it feels like it.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Feels a really good balance and I'm able to say,
I know, I'll take the time off and do this,
say you know, our or think thankfully my bes remote.
So like I can say, let's do if we're doing
studio on l A A three pm on a Friday,
I'll be in LA Friday.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Working all daynyways, and then I'll be at three time.
But like, but you know, it's it's not easy, it's
just work out all. It's really challenging.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
And so I'm really like I would say, it's inspiring
more to see you, I would say, because you are
some one who said I'm going to like deeply fully
invest myself all my time and energy into myself, and
I see it paying office.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Really really beautiful.
Speaker 8 (39:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
I'm glad you mentioned balanced though, because at the top
of the year, ideally I would have wanted to like
balance them both. Yeah, but like a time when when
I realized, like, you've got to be honest with yourself,
you cannot balance these.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
You got to pick one, and I picked this.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
So what's paying on so far?
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (39:36):
So the so the real question I have for you,
you know, the descripted question I have for you was
knowing that you're someone who does like like give takes
give takes on media and and really is a prevared
media yourself, how do you feel like people like actually
should cover news today?
Speaker 4 (39:53):
What or how could be? How should people like navigate
like the tabloid gossip.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Oh that's a good question. So a little more insight
about me.
Speaker 5 (40:04):
I got my bachelor's degree in broadcast journalism, so I
do come from a journalism background, and I'll go say,
as a content creator, I can always always tell when
somebody went to school for communications orsus somebody who didn't.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
And this is no shade to anybody who didn't, but I.
Speaker 5 (40:19):
Just feel like when you go to school for it,
you take like the fact checking more seriously. Like I
never want to put out misinformation, and I do make
mistakes sometimes when I do, I like try to go
back and clear it up, like do a little update. Yes,
so I guess like the journalistic integrity and media ethics,
I take that very very seriously. Even like if I'm
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just doing like a little bullshit post, I still want
to make sure like the message is coming out right,
being mindful of who my audiences, like may have to
rerecord something like don't say it like this because you
know this could offend people.
Speaker 7 (40:53):
Right.
Speaker 5 (40:53):
You don't want to disrespect anybody. You just want to
get your story out, get your little narrative out, and
then that's it.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
So I hope answer your question.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
Answer it.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
They're very succeainct love it very much giving broadcast journalists
background on a man, it's on budget. No, I think
you bring up a really good point because I also
think there's you know, and this is to say to
anybody who's watching watching on YouTube, or who's listening to
us on you know, the wherever you find your podcast.
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I think it is important for folks to know and
understand too, like this is work. And I think people
often see content creators, they see podcasters, they see you know,
people doing stuff in the media, and they're like, oh,
I'm just going to jump on that trend.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
And I'm like, girl, it is still work.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Like even in my mind, having to do our show
flow prior to getting here, in my mind was like
that's a part of the job, like making sure that
everything from the production side is is right before we
get to New York. Like, all of that is still work.
And I think people it's glamorized to an extent, and
I love that you're out here telling them the girls, yes,
I'm doing this full time, but do keep in mind
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there is a full time job. Yes, so I think
people need to hear that more so I'm really.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
No, it is.
Speaker 5 (42:08):
I post every single day, several times a day, so
like I don't take days off from it, because the
algorithm does not forgive you for taking breaks. So like
I tell people, it is work. It's fun work. It
can be easy work, but it's still work, and you're
only gonna get what you put into it. Like you
earn every dollar, every view, every like every comment, you
have to put in the work for it.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
So Tyre told you, okay, yes, yes, Well now that
we know how AI killed the video star, we are
going to take a quick break to pay some bills
and when we come back, we're gonna have more shows.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
And we are black fam and for days, some people
wanta do What's popping segment. It's gonna be a little
spicy and controversial. I'm gonna get my notes something to
make sure I make sure I'm asking in the right way,
because it's it's a what sake?
Speaker 1 (43:01):
How you doing?
Speaker 7 (43:02):
So?
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Depending on a topic that we're seeing more and more
of cancel culture as we have seen time and come again,
celebrity celebrities have claimed that cancel culture has quote unquote
ruined their career, and.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
Some say the clan culture does not it doesn't actually exist.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
And so this week I want to ask y'all all
of us here, does society or fans and or fans
forgive some some somebodies more than others after scandals?
Speaker 1 (43:33):
And whose cancelations are apologies actually have led to maple
change in the HIM industry? Have you seen resort of
justice actually practice in these streets or what?
Speaker 4 (43:42):
Now?
Speaker 3 (43:43):
I have to thought for my thoughts on this still
because it was a big question for me. So I'm
gonna kick to y'all first, Yes, do so? I guess
the question is do you date cancel culture? Yeah, so
it's yes, it's tree letters. What are your thoughts on
cancel culture? Do some fans forgive people more than others?
Speaker 1 (43:58):
And why?
Speaker 4 (43:59):
And then whose apologies?
Speaker 1 (44:01):
If you want to share, do you think how about
she worked out?
Speaker 4 (44:03):
Or do you think I have not?
Speaker 5 (44:05):
It's going to be a little bit long winded because
it's like we have time. A question is canceled culture real?
My short answer is going to be yes, But I
don't think it exists in the way that people think
it does. If you're going to be honest, the only
person who can really cancel a celebrity is the industry itself.
So like, if the venues don't want to book you,
if the labels don't want to support you, I feel
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like that's real cancel culture.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Because from what.
Speaker 5 (44:31):
I've seen, when a celebrity does something controversial and like
they get all this backlash, nine times out of ten,
the people criticizing them are not their fans or their supporters.
It's just like people who exist outside of that. You know,
a lot of times the celebrity span base really operates.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
Like a cult.
Speaker 5 (44:50):
They do not hold their figs accountable for anything. So
it's not the fans that's stilling the canceling. And if, like,
if your support group is still supporting you, then you're
not canceled. As hard as I'm concerned, As far as
like celebrity apologies and stuff, again, I don't take those
seriously because I don't believe them. I think that no,
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I believe that people say what they mean and mean
what they say, and we all have opinions that are
just not appropriate. And I think that you apologize to
kind of say face, it's like an empty formality to me, really,
you're apologizing because you got cause exactly like, are you
sorry or are you embarrassed?
Speaker 1 (45:28):
Yes? So no, I don't think that. I don't think
that you change your mind that quickly, you know.
Speaker 5 (45:35):
I think you just gonna turn your notifications off, take
a nap, then come back.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
Two days later like, oh, I'm sorry if I invented you.
When they you just move on. So no insane to me.
So I'm right there with you.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
I do have some notes that I want to read
verbatim because I feel very strongly about this.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
You know, I I.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
Really hate that we have gotten to this place that
everyone is saying, Oh, it's it's it's canceled. Culture's cancel culture. No, because,
like I even think about Chris Brown, Chris Brown aka
crash Bandakoop, like the fact that so many people have
given him so much space to continue to keep doing
what he's doing, even when he has done harm. That's
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the thing that I think really bugs me is that
you know, people will say, oh, well, he said sorry,
but I'm going, well, his actions are not proving he's sorry. Yeah,
because I know other people in the industry who are
connected to him that are saying they've been harmed by him, right,
And so I'm going like, like, what, it's not talking
to you that I'm standing on business right now, right,
Like he's not talking to you right now, it's not
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talking to them.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
I'm sitting on business.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
Then I'm standing on business when I say this, So
that that really bugs me. It also bothers me because
I know that, you know, in my mind, Diddy is
gonna get out in twenty twenty eight and the world
is gonna act like he didn't do anything. And I
think that's the biggest thing that really bugs me is,
you know, people's own cancel culture, people trying to cancel Diddy. No,
Diddy did all of these terrible things, and he's being
held accountable for him. Yeah, and then in twenty twenty eight,
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people are just gonna be like, oh, Dati's releasing a
new record like nothing ever.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
Happened and he didn't harm Cassie. So that's the thing
that really bugs me. I think the biggest thing for
me is in all of this conversation is that I think,
and I want to say this very clearly, because when
we were when you were talking, I immediately went to
Kathy Griffin and thinking about the hell that Kathy Griffin
went through from twenty sixteen to like twenty twenty two,
and even though she still has a major tour now,
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a lot of the stuff she's doing is self funded, right, Like,
it's not even like she you know, yeah, Live Nation
finally signed on to help her with her latest tour,
but she's still struggling to be Kathy Griffin twenty twenty,
twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
And so that's a mind for me. It's like cancel
culture for who. Most of the time, cancel culture only
affects women, and specifically Black women. I think about Chrissette
Michelle when she did the inauguration, right, Like, do I
still shade her for that? Yes, but it has her
career looked the same. No, So yes, cancel culture exists,
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but usually it doesn't impact men, specifically rich Man.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Kanye was thriving throughout the whole Corssette Michille. Oh my god. Yeah,
he's little.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
It still is.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
That's that's the gag, is that Kanye still is thriving
now and people he has said and has done some
really terrible things and I'm going but people still buy
his stuff. People will go to his little tours, people
will buy his music, So I yeah, cancel culture is
is b estimate.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
I do feel like I feel like so I'm all
for cantability, Like I appreciate the idea of giving people
accountable something.
Speaker 4 (48:35):
I think.
Speaker 3 (48:36):
I think it only it only works if you maintain
cambility and like maintain consequences of it, right right, and
if you don't really have consequences and like and like won't.
Speaker 4 (48:45):
Make sense for people.
Speaker 3 (48:46):
I think, Like I I too, I think like I think,
I think everything is real and everything is not really
the same time, like, I think the impacts of it
are real, but I think nothing is really if you're way,
if you aren't putting in the word to make it
real and so but like like I I appreciate the
idea of a sort of justice. I appreciate the idea
of saying, let's be accounted something. I think like like
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like you know, like I'm thinking a lot like like
now like Snoop Dogg, because you can probably how it
affects more and more than men and the Snoop Dogg right,
like no tripping on, no stripping off of him performing
at the denamination as well to you know, no, no
one tripping off him that he made that he made
comments about a queer love, right, but like like the
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like well, like it's new, he's older, right, And so
I think people are more likely to forgive when I think.
Speaker 4 (49:31):
People are of a certain generation.
Speaker 3 (49:33):
I also think also think like they're more forgiving if
like you base, if you base?
Speaker 7 (49:37):
What what what?
Speaker 1 (49:38):
What? What? What?
Speaker 7 (49:39):
What? What?
Speaker 4 (49:39):
Like Elney?
Speaker 3 (49:40):
I think of like Lizzo and her and her cancelations?
What was about her like like her allegedly like bullying
other bullying other big girls you know well and and
and did why I say like that like so like
I said, not downt believe it, but because I don't
know what the truth is, right, right, you know? And
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then you and then and then like her body is shaped,
so people are people like came for her because they
felt like they she was represented representation of what.
Speaker 4 (50:08):
Meant to be like body positive.
Speaker 3 (50:09):
And then and she she was something I never said,
said to be that for you while you all maim
me this thing, right, but now people are like want
to cancel her for it, and so it's like you,
I think I think you're absolutely right, Like incision, you
asked this question because I'm watching the morning show on
Apple TV, where a big part of the show is
about cancelation. I think people don't people don't do want
to be canceled because and this is this is also
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why I'm going to be a photon creator because my
job is so different from this and so and so
like you being canceled as a creator, right, Like if
you're canceled as a visible person, you can't do a
lot of visible things anymore, right, you know, And like
like I pray never happens to me or anybody you
know in this room right now. But like, but that's
why my like, my job, job is not a job
that's like that either too, because if something happens to
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like me online or my thing, I like, my job
is still that's really important to me. But you know,
it's like a big focus on the show is cancel culture,
because if you're canceled, right like like like like as
a creator, as like a person on the news, like
you're you're you're well being, your left that is tied
to your face being somewhere if it can't be but
anywhere you aren't, you got nothing else.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
Then, right, and so, and the bus still running, it's
the best, and so.
Speaker 3 (51:15):
Like you know, like I think like I I also
think of like Paul, like like ru Paul right for
a while, Paul never really never got canceled for cracking
as much as like if people tried to they people
held them to account, and it came to not they
came to not having trans women on drag Race and
and route being trans like being transphobic in that way.
Speaker 4 (51:35):
And and I will say I think all the time
I've ever seen like a.
Speaker 3 (51:39):
Canceler accountableity payoff is when she started intentioning buying transfers
to be on the show. You know, I think there's
a question of like like which which of like which
of the dolls that she invite, and like the issue
and biting all the ones who are.
Speaker 4 (51:51):
Like the highest of the high.
Speaker 3 (51:52):
But also the whole point of drag Race is about
highest of the high that way, And so I think
that's probably one of the most like successful ones I've
seen were like accommedy work.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
But also what if she like if I would I
wonder what the conversation was, right if the network was like,
we don't care, girl, would she have done it?
Speaker 4 (52:11):
Did did didn't? Did this?
Speaker 1 (52:12):
We don't Now they really don't care because they didn't
got all of us about it. That's that's fair.
Speaker 3 (52:17):
But you're like, well, but at that point, but I think,
I like, I think it was I think it was
still on logo or logo or or or or or
like the h one and so like you know, like
when you made that decision, was it because she wanted
to be responsible to the community, responsible to possible to
the check right.
Speaker 4 (52:34):
Like and like like and and I get it. I
think I think I lived up.
Speaker 3 (52:37):
But since start as long winded, they gotta look, I
lived at a place where, like I I want accountability.
I want I want to be held accountable. I want
everyone to be able accountable. I think I'm not interested
in canceling as much because I'm interested in more in
what can happen, like right like like like i'm i'm, I'm, I'm,
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I'm I'm interested and change now someone can't change because
I think I think everyone can change if they want to.
But they won't change, and I can't. They won't change.
Then I'd be like, sorry, girl, I won't book you myself.
Speaker 4 (53:12):
And that's the thing. That's what it's like, Like, you know,
if anything of a moment in my in my community.
Speaker 3 (53:17):
There's a person in my community who has a lot
of power in like in like higher positions of like
city government and stuff.
Speaker 4 (53:24):
Right, and they're older.
Speaker 2 (53:26):
When you say in my community, are you talking about
the LGBTQUA community, are you talking about the hat community?
Speaker 4 (53:37):
What's the heck.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
Community talk about? You have a thing about the Jewish people.
Speaker 3 (53:47):
I love.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
I just want to say that if we have Jewish listeners,
people who are traditionally Hasidic Jews, y'all outfits are cut.
Speaker 1 (53:57):
I don't care what nobody said listening to the show,
curl that they have come here ya kun the little
black drapery that they be walking through Crown Heights in cun.
You just learned kosher cunt your hat, your hats with
the fox hair cunt. I don't care what nobody says.
Speaker 2 (54:19):
The Jewish people, they be dressed house down boots, ready
to give.
Speaker 1 (54:23):
The dolls a show.
Speaker 2 (54:25):
And so when I said the hats, that's what I meant.
I'm talking about the legitimate hat clip.
Speaker 4 (54:31):
As well too. For us, please yes, the slip for us.
Speaker 1 (54:34):
I want I want to t M bitch TM. Don't
you dance on this show right now?
Speaker 3 (54:43):
Don't you ever copyright that ship, so I know it
was people my local San Diego legimate legit.
Speaker 4 (54:51):
Okay, there's a person who.
Speaker 3 (54:52):
Has high status that is truly a horrible person and
like is known on record to have been bad, but
like they're uncancellable.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
I feel like I know who this might be.
Speaker 4 (55:03):
I would be so curious if you I'd be so
tested to.
Speaker 1 (55:05):
Be the person. Not thinking of Calabas.
Speaker 3 (55:08):
Far but you know, but like but like like they
want to be canceled because they have so much power
in like higher positions and government and stuff. Right, but like,
for example, you know, I like irnorization focused on black
horn trans folks there, and I was and they had
someone their friend had offered, like I you know, I want.
Speaker 4 (55:27):
Them to give you guys like one hundred K. And
I was like I would rather be punched in the face.
Speaker 3 (55:31):
Than take their money from them, because I know the
horrible they don't care about black people at all.
Speaker 4 (55:35):
They will do it for the sake of looking good
to people.
Speaker 3 (55:38):
But like and and but like like I know they'll
never get canceled for it, so I like, and I
won't be tied of that, right, Like my capability is
like I'll be campible and probably is like, am I
dumb forturn K? Maybe so, but I but I know
it will come with conditions, and I know it come
with we must think her. I will never think that
publicly for anything or privately, like that's just not efferentially.
I want my I want I want to be comble
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to the people to.
Speaker 1 (56:00):
Her, And that's what I'll say.
Speaker 2 (56:03):
I think that's what good activism and I think that's
what good advocacy looks like, right, knowing that you know
what you're doing and where who you're inviting into your space,
Like that's that's like me saying I'm gonna create this
whole platform that speaks equality. But I'm okay with listening
to R Kelly on my playlist right. No, Like I
have seen friends, like a friend of mine she was
showing and think of I don't know where I saw it,
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but she was talking about this woman who I guess
had had a wedding, and at the very top it said,
please do not play these artists for these very reasons.
And so I'm like, that's what Like, I'm like, that's what, Yes,
that's cancel culture, But in my opinion, that's the kind
of cancel culture we need. The people who are causing
harm are the ones that we need to be talking about.
Speaker 1 (56:44):
And that's what it is. It's not truly pancel culture.
It's are you being held accountable? Right?
Speaker 3 (56:50):
People about Kanye when he made when he made like
when he made the deaf cool for on Jue statement,
I think like like a few years ago, right, he
literally he literally was like, unless night was a Nike
or do unless Nike unless insert retailer drops me, I'm
gonna say what want right and and and right and
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and it is for me? Would not have dropped him?
How he not said that like everything? If he an'toed,
that probably kept him. But because he said that, people
are like, I'm sure, like girl, like, we gotta do
it now because we will look will look.
Speaker 1 (57:22):
Dumb to not write. Until then he had said he
tell about ship right now?
Speaker 2 (57:28):
Yeah, I have two pairs at home that I bought
way before all of the Fiasca Cancellor begins.
Speaker 4 (57:33):
Now, what what what what you have to say for yourself?
Is you easy?
Speaker 5 (57:37):
Well, these people of the camera my apology, but these
are very comfortable, and they're very stylish, and they go
with a lot of das.
Speaker 1 (57:50):
You know what, I hate the worst people have the
best taste.
Speaker 4 (57:53):
Yeah, very real.
Speaker 1 (57:55):
Even people know how to throw that ship on every
single time when I.
Speaker 4 (57:59):
See who's horrible, I'm like, but there's still serving hung girl.
I can't, Yeah, I can't.
Speaker 1 (58:03):
I can't hit the look good. She is very much
the alien.
Speaker 2 (58:11):
Mas has beautiful skin. I don't care what nobody says
she is the worst person in the world.
Speaker 1 (58:15):
Her skin is beautiful every time I see it.
Speaker 2 (58:18):
But yeah, but no, I agree. Some of the most
terrible people have the best style. And I'll even say that,
like I sometimes see easies come through my timeline and
I'm like, fuck, I wish I could just buy it,
but I can't give my money to that person.
Speaker 4 (58:30):
So yeah, I totally I really, I really do think
I will just like tied up.
Speaker 3 (58:34):
I really do think cancel culture is more I think
like it's more about like it's like I think sometimes
the way it's practice is really about like virtue signaling
and like right, like it's about like who, like do
I look do I look the best?
Speaker 4 (58:47):
Doing this? Singing to me?
Speaker 1 (58:48):
I rally, I'd rather you, like, do you cancel in
your actual life in private?
Speaker 4 (58:52):
To cancel public?
Speaker 1 (58:52):
Because if you cancel public, I don't know how much
you actually are doing.
Speaker 3 (58:56):
So like for me, I see as like I don't
have to announce I'm canceling, which like I'll just unsubscribed,
I'll just I'll just say I won't play their stuff anymore.
Speaker 4 (59:05):
Like I think cancing should be like it should be
a personal decision.
Speaker 3 (59:08):
I think there are times for a collective cancelation and
and and I do I do agree with that for
like like a really huge thing or someone chooses to
be a visible person in light, But like I really
think it has to be about your own personal decision
to figure out people because because of the day, like
we live in a capitalist place, I can't like I
when I want to, I can't sit here and judge
you that which iss you make time so you can survive,
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like the the odds are against you regardless. I want
all of us to thrive and like and people, people
do not. People will fight, will fight me on this.
But if I believe in the liberation work, my, my, my,
the value that articulate is about everyone deserves to be
free in the ways that they want to be free,
not the way I want them to be free.
Speaker 4 (59:48):
And so if I leave the liberation work.
Speaker 3 (59:51):
I actually have no saying what they do with their lives,
even if they do things that are against my own
values and beliefs, and like they thinel like that's your liberation,
people like that's a libation.
Speaker 1 (59:59):
Like if that is, that not what freedom is.
Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
It's not foredom to not be hot who you want
in the world, even even if I hate it, because
it's not about me, it's about you. And so I
hope people can like maybe articulate that framework instead some
days such but anyways, no, not now we have you
already to cancel your you know, your favorite bitch maybe
maybe maybe John maybe ye who's to say.
Speaker 4 (01:00:21):
Uh, gotcha?
Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
We have to take one more quick break and then
we'll be back with your head on my hands in
just a bit. My yes ma'am for this week For
those of you who don't know what our yes ma'am
and ire no mam says, this is when we ultimately
talk about the things we'd like to celebrate, or we
(01:00:46):
literally throw uh throw throw a brick because we're new
we throw a brick, yes, because we're New York creatures.
Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Yes, yes, yes, And so my guest man this week,
I definitely I have a couple of yes, ma'am's, quickly,
So what do you do well? Quickly? So first off,
I want to shout out corn bread? Is it cornbread?
Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
Corn bread?
Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
Corn bitch?
Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
When I tell you so, I am a particular person
about my fried chicken. That was probably the best piece
of fried chicken I've had in a very very very
long time.
Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
And that that catfish, girl, Yes, I was actually surprised.
Speaker 4 (01:01:36):
I love some catfish.
Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
And it was tender, the season was perfect, the fry
was right, it was crispy. Y'are also swat, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Stand away from the rice and gravy. Though the rice
is you can definitely taste that the rice is minute rice.
You can definitely tell that the rice was minute rice.
But the bravy was good. So if you want to
put the gravy on you like your chicken or your
gravy on your fish, if that's what you do, the
bravy is great. But I will definitely say stay away
from the rice and gravy because they will try to
upsell you for it.
Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
The mag and gees and it was than but like
I was like like, I'm like, I'm not mad about it.
I would eat more. I yours you did finish, I
would not gonna let me. It's definitely got it, but
OZM pop is not gonna let me finish it again.
(01:02:23):
But it was good.
Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
The next thing I want to shout out, I want
to say the man who defended himself against the woman
who knocked the phone out of his hand when he
was protesting Trump, shout out to him, because a lot
of y'all think, because Ice and your president is out
here disrespecting black and brown and queer folks, that you
can say and do anything that you want. It doesn't
work that way. Martha talk slick, touch me, and you
(01:02:47):
make it hit. I just want to put that out there.
Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
I had to.
Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
I had to kindly remind somebody earlier this week online
that I grew up fifty five percent of my life
was Sam Bernardino and the other forty five percent of
my life was comp I have hands. I just want
to let people know that if you run up on
me the wrong way, I can and I will defend myself.
Just go ahead and take that way that needs to.
Speaker 5 (01:03:11):
Be he gole have put all that weight behind that
face and knock you the fuck out. So don't play
with him, and don't play with them as.
Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
Letting you know.
Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
I'm a very beautiful, very kind spirit and I love
to laugh. But if you run up on me, I
can't protect myself. I just want to put that out there,
and I'm gonna keep saying it so that way, if
this ever does get clipped and someone finds it, they
are hand over hand.
Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
I don't believe that's the thing. You don't believe in violence. However,
sometimes you need to meet people, whether they're.
Speaker 5 (01:03:47):
A and sometimes violence is the answer. Some people don't
learn lessons unless you hit them.
Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
I listen and mother was laying on the ground with
her shoe in the street, and I hope that she
had time onund to think about what she did.
Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
Stop touching people and you won't have no problems now.
I wanted to talk about this real quick, my no man.
I wanted to talk about the folks who are out
here shaming people who are sad or crying and worried
about their food stamps. As much as it it's funny, right,
(01:04:22):
there are some jokes that I've seen online that I
actually do think are quite funny about about snap you
know people are right now. I don't know if you've
been following on the threads, but people have basically been
saying I've been using my snaps to buy yachts or
I'm using the rest of my snaps to pay off
my student notes and all of that, like that's the
current joke right now, because we know it's not true,
right And another thing I definitely wanted to say is
that we know that if AFDC only existed for black people,
(01:04:45):
it wouldn't exist. That is just the real thing. The
world doesn't care about Black people that much to make
sure that we are well. So I just wanted to
put that out there. As a kid who grew up
on a FDC, I don't know if y'all know what
a FDC is, but it was it's now been refreshed
as food stamps or snaps. I can remember what it
was like seeing my mother cry when our food stamps
were late, or when my mom's check got cut and
(01:05:05):
she was like, I was planning to use this five hundred,
six hundred dollars for rent.
Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
It's really scary.
Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
It's really scary to think that folks don't know if
or when their next meal is going to come, and
so folks who are out here judging people who are
on food stamps are making jokes about people. I want
to make it very clear. My mom worked two jobs
to make sure me and my brother had what we
needed to have. And I want to say very loud
and clear that the idea that black people and brown
people are the only one using food stamps and is
(01:05:33):
going to be looting if things go wrong, I think
that's a myth.
Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
And what I want to say is to be clear.
And this is me doing research.
Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
And I also want to say shout out to producer
Joy who helped me make sure I get these stats correct.
The USDA in twenty twenty three shows that SNAP recipients
represent in terms of different races and ethnicity, thirty seven
percent of them are white. So I just want us
to sit with that. That is thirty seven percent is white,
African American is twenty six percent, and Hispanic is sixteen
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Asian three percent Native American is the majority. So the
majority of those who get SNAP are thirty seven percent.
Sixteen percent of those participants are categorized as race unknown,
with fifteen percent of overarching people who receive SNAP and
food stamps are LGBTQ. So I really think it is
important for us to say that we are all, specifically
(01:06:24):
all of us are going to be affected by this
if and when it does happen. But I also want
to say this, we are all one check away from
being broke, or from being on WIG or on whatever
sub subsidiary we need to be helped, one unpaid contract
or a bad day away from needing food stamps, especially
(01:06:45):
with all the anti discrimination and employment issues that we're having.
So I really think we really need to get back
to this place where we For me, it's just the
empathy of it, all right.
Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
I don't know what like.
Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
I may not know what it's like to be hungry
right now, but I remember what that feeling was like
as a kid. Why would I make jokes about it
when someone else is in that situation right now?
Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
It's not cool.
Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
So I just wanted to, you know, I didn't really
want it to become a reading rainbow moment for everybody.
But I think it's just it's we're in a moment
right now where I think people are getting their rocks
off by laughing at people who are struggling, and I
don't find it funny. I don't think it's cool. I
don't think it's funny, and it's actually quite scary, to
be honest, because even like right now, you may feel
(01:07:27):
like you have a check, but tomorrow you may not,
and then what happens to you when you're standing in
line begging for food.
Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
Now, this is where I'm about to get petty. JFK.
This is the thing I've been wanting to see. I've
been sitting on.
Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
I said, I'm gonna come to New York and me
and Jordan had a this is the switch up, right,
So you caught the very educational, very very kind.
Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
Advocacy me. But now I got some words for JFK.
What the fuck is that? What was that? JFK? How
did they have to go three fucking miles to get
an uber? Oh my god, I know what he's talking about.
Yeah yeah, so yeah, so okay, so contest setting. So
what was that? So?
Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
First of all, our plane was laved by three hours,
four hours, let's be We got in at one three
in the morning, which was already set up.
Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
Then stopped from McDonald's and that was our phone.
Speaker 4 (01:08:22):
Yeah, your phone, I believe you.
Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
McDonald's in the air force.
Speaker 4 (01:08:25):
Yeah it was hungry, Yeah, yeah, we were.
Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
We were McDonald's order oh girl number eight, good question.
Whish that's the fish fish girl.
Speaker 4 (01:08:38):
But I'll try the chicken.
Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
They didn't have chicken. I was gonna do the chicken to.
Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
They literally like, we got my chickens, we got we
got the we got the christy chicken. I said, I
don't want that, so began one one in the morning McDonald's.
Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
Apparently what happened was a certain point the ride shares
don't they don't go to the.
Speaker 4 (01:08:59):
Clock.
Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
They have to go to a lot.
Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
So we got we gotta hop on a shuttle to
a lot, which felt like we're going on circles.
Speaker 4 (01:09:05):
I said, but where is this lot?
Speaker 3 (01:09:06):
I feel like I was went through a little dungeon spiral.
Main we we end up at the lot and then
I'm a lift bitch, not really an uber girl because
I have a Chased Freedom card, so my lifts are
also cheaper. I get a little discount on lift. But
Lift will not go to the lot past two am.
Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
I'd either, yeah, So Lift was like it was like,
we can't help you, girl, and Lift kept saying, so
we're in the lot, and Lift kept saying in a lot, Oh, well,
how about terminal three or terminal four?
Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
I said, no, I'm at the lot. The terminals beyond Gonder,
come get me at the lot. But there's no a
lot of option, it's just the terminal. So Uber had
the actual lot function. So then begets We got the
Uber and took like so we didn't get to our
hotel at like three am each of us.
Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
I didn't get to speak till five.
Speaker 3 (01:09:50):
Also that Ober was one hundred, mine was I think
mine was ninety and I think mine was I was
like nine year, one hundred, one hundred, ten dollars to
go from Jai Brooklyn, I have never in my life.
Speaker 4 (01:10:04):
And I was like, oh, oh, so, yeah, fuck you JFK,
fuck you Uber for that one.
Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
Yeah, lift can both ketch hands.
Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
My lift would have been I mean you left for
not picking me up in the first place, but you
would have been the musch Sheeper option.
Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
I would love it.
Speaker 4 (01:10:19):
Yeah, it just go ahead.
Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
So I was just really mad about the fact that
I ended up having to throw my food away because
it was cold.
Speaker 4 (01:10:25):
Yeah. I bid into it and it was like cold.
Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
And I'm one of those people that once McDonald's get cold,
you can't eat it. It's not it is not edible,
like there's nothing like some places you can it gets
cold and you're like, oh, I can save this, this
is this is okay going down. But McDonald's is just
once it gets cold, it's done. And so I was
really mad that I spilled some of my high c
on my bag, but on top of that, I also
ended up having to throw it away, and I'm just
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I'm I'll never I don't like I have to fly
out on there tomorrow and I'm thinking, like do it
change my flight to LaGuardia just on principle.
Speaker 5 (01:10:55):
But I mean they both have their issues that the
JFK thing though with that all year because construction, they
do have to like walk miles to get.
Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
To the Uber and Lyft pick up spot.
Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
It's bad, yes, so bad, but yeah, but anyway, that's
my That's the only one ripe that I have about
this trip was that I definitely just want to say, JFK,
get your ship together.
Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
Girl. It was it was.
Speaker 4 (01:11:15):
It wasn't good like a rival. Yeah, we were both
like we could just go home now. Actually we literally
were in Also that.
Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
Bag was wow. Okay, so the bags weren't late, there's
there's just the wrong carousel, but that she shout shout
shout to the little girl who was pissed that mama
was pissed. She was like, we got this.
Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
She's like, I've been here for an hour, I haven't
got my bags and my daughter.
Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
She was really sad.
Speaker 4 (01:11:42):
Card was so upset.
Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
The was a girl, but the reality is is that
she was at the wrong so the way she was.
Speaker 3 (01:11:49):
She was like, I fucking think Delta should actually handle
the bags. They should just with the bags to me,
and so they should pay for the er. I was like,
maybe your bag. And I was like and and and
and then and then and then like the comas ship
mashed and this guy's like, hey, are you from Wheeling?
Speaker 4 (01:12:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
Why here she said? She said ship out and then
I said she grabs her was I said, no, what
the bag was not? But but who is the bitch?
Speaker 4 (01:12:16):
The fuck the girl who went that baggage?
Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Claim?
Speaker 4 (01:12:17):
Who asked?
Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
She asked, yes, are the bags from your fly on
this one?
Speaker 4 (01:12:22):
Baby?
Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
That's your job, not the girl. I'm not the baggage,
said attendant. I'm just the girl who got here on time, Like, oh,
is your bags? She was like, are the bags from
this flight on here?
Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
And I looked at her and remember why.
Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
I remember when I asked you that two minutes ago
and you told me, no, it's on this one. And
then you said it's you asked.
Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
Me on this one.
Speaker 4 (01:12:42):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
We were both looking at each other like we could
go home, right. I was, I would be very okay
with it. I would be okay with going back on
a six hour flight since I was so irritated with it.
And it's funny because I'll say this and then I'm
gonna throw to you, Terry. There was a moment where
you took a picture on the bus and it was
just the back of me. But even with me looking
in that picture, I was like, you could.
Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
Tell I was pissed.
Speaker 4 (01:13:04):
I thought all of us and looked down.
Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
I was so pissed, pissed about spilling the high Sea
on my back than my girl is not happy.
Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
Yeah, I was not igh sy all in my Louise.
Speaker 4 (01:13:18):
We recharged in our worst moments.
Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
We did.
Speaker 4 (01:13:22):
We persevere girls.
Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
Yeah, yes, ma'am, say you're no ma'am. I'm gonna give
my yes ma'am to this TikToker. He's from Mississippi.
Speaker 5 (01:13:35):
Him and his family went viral like two days ago
on vacation in Mexico and some people trying to scam them,
and they said, you played the right game with the
wrong family. He literally said, call the police because I'm
an tear this whole peer up. But long short, they
got their money back. They made it home safely. I think,
(01:13:56):
like some some tourists touristuff. Yeah, gotta be careful, try,
gotta be careful, like.
Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
They try to make them pay for it twice or
something like that. I believe it. I believe you know.
Speaker 5 (01:14:05):
They stood on business, very respectful, very stern, like, don't
play with me, so shout out to him my no, ma'am.
Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
Hmm. Maybe I'll just aim at the government or something.
Speaker 5 (01:14:16):
You know, y'all can't fund medicaid and food stamps, that
y'all building a new wing of the east wing of
a White House and building ballrooms and all this other stuff.
So you know, maybe some financial literacy and some empathy
and some compassion could make this country a better place.
Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
Yeah, that's really much giving. I hate it here like
I really hate it on this timeline.
Speaker 3 (01:14:35):
So yeah, but yeah, very much that What about my
sms were also the cornbread, the cornbread itself was sucking fire,
and that the corner was fucking fire.
Speaker 4 (01:14:43):
It was so soft, it was crumbly. It didn't know
butter on. It was already so good.
Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
Yes, I both am excited nervous for you to try
it because if you love it, yeah, if you hate it,
you like you, but just don't ship.
Speaker 4 (01:14:53):
I'll never shoot.
Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
I wouldn't blame y' all for that. So when you do, go,
if you and make content, and then you can just
because I know your videos used to do a black screen,
and then you can do the logo of the corn
bread and then your face will float if you can
just do and then you can say shout out to
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us whether you hate it or you like it, and
then give us your opinion on it.
Speaker 5 (01:15:18):
Okay, Yeah, I'm also going to send my homegirls shot
in the city.
Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
She does food reviews all over New York literally her
niche period, and she loves soul food.
Speaker 3 (01:15:27):
To get the catfish the caffish. I don't think she
likes I mean, if not so that they do catfish
and her ribs, there be there. I think there would
be friends, Saidish.
Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
I said exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
But listen, just talking about earlier, there's a difference between
being culturally Jewish and religiously.
Speaker 4 (01:15:56):
Yes, yes, yes, observing that way.
Speaker 1 (01:15:59):
Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 4 (01:16:00):
If I don't want me, I'm like, oh I'm Jewish,
I can't have it, but I do want it.
Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
Don't tell God I have the worst thing.
Speaker 4 (01:16:11):
Put pick in my mouth. Okay, truly, it's.
Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
How you do it. Okay.
Speaker 3 (01:16:16):
Anyways, So also I think I will say every time
I'm here in the city, I really love it, like
like every time I'm here people people, Yes, the subway,
I love it, but transit love it.
Speaker 4 (01:16:28):
John hates me so much for throwing the subway. I
love a subway moment.
Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
Well, the thing for me today, so the first so
I always have to have to literally give this as
a caveat to why I don't like So, yes, I'm
a California girl.
Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
I also am worried.
Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
I told I told them today to that part of
my fear of writing the public transit what started with
the movie Ghosts when that man got killed. And so
that is where I think the fear of public transit started.
For being New York City, but also the first time
I was here. Shout out to my girl Derek Drell
that I will be seeing later. Today we saw a
rat on the platform form and that was enough for
(01:17:01):
me to want to scream.
Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
But everywhere in bitch house rats like that in California.
But you but like like like like you grew up
doing the Metro either, right, no thinking about like I
grew up doing March.
Speaker 4 (01:17:16):
So it's like having transits. I know about the transits.
But today, as.
Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
Soon as we hit that platform pe, I was like, oh,
it smells like Pete. Okay, got it. When was coming
up the platform after we got off of was it
the f train? We was on ship everywhere? Okay, on
the platform or on the train.
Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
It was on the platform, And I understand that, but
I'm just saying, like for me in my mind, like again,
I know, and please please know that I am checking
my privilege in this moment to say I too. And
I always have to remind people I have been on house,
So I understand the struggle.
Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
I have been unhoused, but as a person who was
not unhoused, it is still a little alarming for me
to see ship in a place of where I am
trying to take or trying to get somewhere. So it
was just a little off putting for me.
Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
Yeah, and we shouldn't be normalized and just in public.
Speaker 5 (01:18:17):
Yeah, I can handle the rats once once there's an
equal matter involved that.
Speaker 1 (01:18:24):
You know too much, it's too much to queen, it's
too much. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:18:28):
Yeah, So I was say, yes, this city, I feel
like see on a good day was the beautiful day
like yesterday a good day, bad day.
Speaker 4 (01:18:38):
I know the people are not the nice city, but
on a good day, it's.
Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
Really beautiful here. I love it.
Speaker 3 (01:18:42):
No man, Pam to the traffic, because like it took
us yesterday, it took us like a half hour to
go two miles.
Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
Now, I was like, maybe it's two miles, like just
where where in life? It's a too This is giving
Los Angeles, but times ten because that when we left
the Award Show, when we left Cornbread with corn Bad,
it took.
Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
Yeah, walk here and a half hour. I won't, I won't,
but I could have. I was like or like it
was like to me an hour intendants to get into
into Brooklyn from JFK. And I was like, watch draffic
the entire way. People, it's really early. Why y'all still
up like this?
Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
But also all the planes were delayed coming in Thursday. Yeah,
it's a Friday, So I think that was a big
reason why there was a lot of traffic coming in.
Speaker 3 (01:19:28):
Also to the just some of the apathy of BC
because it's like I'm gonna drive here, I'm i drive
into Brooklyn from from from JFK.
Speaker 4 (01:19:37):
There was a car craft where like, whether it's cement
trucks told me destroyed a vehicle. A vehicle I want
to say.
Speaker 3 (01:19:45):
It must have been like a Cadillac, like CT something right,
And the bat was like when I was crunched to
the front, the front seemed fot and I was like,
oh my god, that is probably I hope they're okay.
And my my, my uber driver was like he'll get
millions from this, and I was like what I was like,
if he survived, He said, the front look fine.
Speaker 4 (01:20:03):
I think he's fine.
Speaker 3 (01:20:04):
I said, baby, there's two amblost trucks for this, Like,
I don't think he's good. But he said, but if
he is to be rich, I mean, you know, I
love the class high full type bitch.
Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
But I was like, it was just.
Speaker 3 (01:20:18):
This ship, this car is mangled. I was like, I
am like, fla, my flobbers are gassing from it. He
was like, he was like, it happens, okay, So the
traveling and the people drive in. It's just it's wild,
like it could not be me but love, but love
accents before we go because we've never again. Recording live
in New York is the thing for me, and then
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sitting with someone who is a true New Yorker.
Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
What is the thing you hate about New York the most? Well,
right now, people are not clean enough after they do
a this ship again. You know, there's a doll ship everywhere.
Speaker 5 (01:20:51):
When you walking down the block, you have to like
look down to make sure you don't step in anything
like outside it is just literally adult toilet and it's disgusting.
So I'm want you to clean up after y'all door.
Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
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the this is the sad part of the show where
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Always levels?
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You can find me at Joho Dael's across all socials.
Speaker 4 (01:21:45):
If not there, jails, I call my website.
Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
If not there, you will find some piece of me
and my wig or my or my hairline or my
soul out allowed a.
Speaker 4 (01:21:54):
Piece of me there.
Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
Yes, yes, I went through four different levels.
Speaker 4 (01:21:57):
It's so big. I was so lost.
Speaker 3 (01:21:59):
I think I'm part of my spirit is still there
somewhere in that, like in the hellish landscape of the
dark room.
Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
But I do know that you a dark room had
sing me. It's a dark room. I said, oh hey,
I mean to those who to those who partake, I
hope you listen. I want.
Speaker 4 (01:22:25):
Someone just say Field research.
Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (01:22:27):
I wasn't, I wasn't a consumer participator. I was just
I was like, you know these here, Yeah, I just
I just give give a little browns. But I also
was lost, so I was like I was like, I
was like am I I was like why is it dark?
It's the dar dark room. That's not beats.
Speaker 1 (01:22:43):
That's me. How you doing well?
Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
I was not a partaker because I saw her and
I went home. I literally this is a cute little space.
I'm going back to my hotel because I'm just old
by trade, by nature. Hey girl, please, I am forty honey,
very much giving. I got to go home and go
to bed. Yes, yes, but shut shut up for the
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great jeans.
Speaker 1 (01:23:13):
We love it. Weeen around these fathers.
Speaker 6 (01:23:14):
My mama.
Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
Yeah, I love miss Edwena. She probably gonna call me
right after the show is done. But anyway, all that
to be said. You can find me and all of
my good stuff down to the w W dot doctor
John paul dot com. You can also find me on
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You have to spell it out. I'll be telling the
people you can't. It's not d R it's d O
(01:23:37):
C T O R J O N Paul. And uh yeah,
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Out to the dogs who are now finding the clip
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Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
Who I Am? Meant to be?
Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
Where I talk about the journey to this podcast and
how everything happened around this and how me and Jojo
Mett and all of the great things around that, and
then other than that, you can find me down to
the Magnoia Bakery where I will be trying to balance
out my eight one C trying to get.
Speaker 1 (01:24:15):
Me some of that pumpkin.
Speaker 5 (01:24:17):
Sorry, speaking of one C. So I was pre diabetic
like two years ago. You know, I did what I
had to do and I'm not pre diabetic anymore, and stuff,
who are asking here?
Speaker 1 (01:24:28):
I was? I was awesome. I was diabetic.
Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
That was tight too, But uh, I just got my
test results back and I'm down to a five four
But we gotta get down. So I'm in the fives now, Mothers,
in the five I'm gonna treat myself to a little
small dosage again because we don't have no Magnoia bakeries
where I am down to a public It was a
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pumpkin banana bread, yeah, bade, yeah, that's literally what I'm here.
Speaker 1 (01:24:59):
For so we can go do that after this.
Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
But other than that, we want to shout out our
wonderful UH producer Joey pat who.
Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
Was in the house with us today. Joey, and shout
out to Joey for making this this happen. We love
you so much.
Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
Thank you Joey for making this happen, and everyone down
to the iHeartMedia for all the things that you do
and continuing to keep us up and running.
Speaker 1 (01:25:20):
We appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
We also want to shout out our lovely editor Chris Rogers,
who not only puts.
Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
This ship together, but it makes this ship pop. So
thank you so much for all your for our show. Chris.
We love you, Chris. I always hear your name, Chris Rodgers.
Next te you. I had no idea you was editing
this too. Yeah everything, Yeah, they do it all. This
has been another show. Stay black, fat, femine, fabulous, and
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remember what Jojo.
Speaker 4 (01:25:48):
Listen, y'all, we we have you a couple of tea
but girl grab.
Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
And yeah yeah, shak City, Shake City, shak City. We
love us for real as you all next week. Bye,