January 16, 2024 • 47 mins
This week, Ellie and Scott share what they love from 2008. It’s a complicated year filled with high highs, and some very low lows. They discuss all the key cultural moments: Ugg Boots, Beyonce, and of course, Scott’s second cat.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
No no no, no no no to.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Welcome back to the podcast guys, a brand new episode.
I'm Scott Ecker.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
I'm Ellie Kemper. Here on board. He love we talk
about things we love. Scott, I'm excited. I don't like to.
I don't want to alienate any guests who have been
on our show or any future guests who have yet
to come. But I'm not mad at the episodes when
it's just you and me.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Oh, it's a Scott an Ellie special, Ellie Scott special.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah. So normally we'll be on a celebrity guest comedian
of some sort to talk about what they love. Always
this week it's just us.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah, it's just us.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
And it's not a celebrities or comedians or people persons
of interest or.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
We've had athletes, we've had religious figures, we've had our
various times, we've had deep sea divers, we've had teas.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
It's so funny you said deep sea divers. I was
thinking deep sea divers in my head the moment that
you said it, because we've had.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
So many anyway, but today it's just.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
So Today it's a special countdown.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a special countdown. Pull up to
the couch or pull up to the fire, Get cozy,
because we're going to talk about our favorite things from
the year two.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Thousand and eight. Two thousand and eight. We're born to
love two thousand and eight. Yes, a seminal year. We
chose this before I fully appreciated what a big deal
two thousand and eight was. No, and then I did
some research for the episode, and it's like, wow, it
may be one of the most exciting years in recent memory, yelling.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
It was actually in a crazy year, and you could
look back on many years and say, oh, it's a
crazy year, but this year is so much happened, both
good and bad. But of course we're going to focus
on the things that we loved about it. But okay,
first of all, well, you had Scott in the world. Okay,
let's just say it, get it out of the way.
There was a financial crisis, Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
That was going financial crisis, a little something called the
Great Recession started presidential election, a big one.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Huge one. Obama McCain Obama.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I guess you want to know a secret, Eli. Yeah.
I thought they're both cool guys. I would like a
little more of that. I like them don't disagree.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
If you're looking for someone to argue with you, you're
not going to find it here. Get that deep sea
diver back.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
On also well, technological breakthroughs left and right. In two
thousand and eight, Ellie, I think that two thousand and
eight was the year I got an iPhone, and he
came out in two thousand and seven. I got one.
I think in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Oh wow, you waited that long. Sorry, Judge, Judge.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Got a first I'm not a first generation iPhone person.
I'm not fancy enough to get a iPhone version one.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I feel like I did, but I'm sure I'm wrong.
I'm sure I'm wrong. I'm misremembering history there, Okay, but yeah,
see iPhone. Just to give everybody some background, that's how
new the iPhone was. Scott, I don't remember well. Scott
remembers he got one. Then mad Men was coming. Mad
Men was huge, Breaking Bad was huge. Airbnb was just
emerging as a place to stay away from home.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Airbnb now a verb, but no one had ever heard
of it in two thousand and eight, that's when it
came out. So we're going to go through a countdown style.
Ellie and I have picked the three things that we
most love about two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I'm gonna kick off the countdown with something I love
from two thousand and eight, and Scott as I was
researching two thousand and eight as well. It really does
occur to It strikes you, like, wow, some of our
favorite artists today. Not that artists should ever have a
you know, short artistic life span, like that, they should
keep reinventing themselves and creating new I was struck by
(04:00):
the musicians, actors, artists, performers. I mean, two thousand and
eight isn't that long ago. On the other hand, it's
a lifetime ago, and so many of our current performers
were huge then too. So I'm an artist. So there
you go. One prime example of that is my number
six in the countdown Things I Loved of WHEK that
we both loved in two thousand and eight. I Am
(04:23):
Sasha Fierce, the album by Beyonce. It's the year, y'all
say what that was? The year that album was released.
I love that album. I still do. I don't know
if you know this, but the idea behind I Am
Dot Dot Dot Ellipses Sasha Fears is that Sasha Fearce,
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of course, is Beyonce's on stage persona that she becomes
when she is performing. There are two discs.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
It's her alter ego.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
There are two discs to this album I Am.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Where they were they they were still selling them as
discs back then, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
You know it. So the first disc was called I
Am and the second disc was called Sasha Fiers. Now
I don't know if everybody knows I'm serious.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Well I didn't. I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
That's what I'm telling you. The first disc is the
more contemplative, soul searching, introspective piece. The second disc is
Sasha Fiers. So there's gonna be a lot of dancing.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
And it's just dances? Can I So? Look, as longtime
listeners the podcast may or may not know, Scott Eckert
hates music. That's an exaggeration. Let's just say I'm not
a big aficionado of music. But I do know Beyonce lover.
I've heard of this album for sure? Is this all
(05:51):
the single? Ladies? Is it on? This particular single?
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Ladies is the first track?
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, so you know that's going to kick things off
all time great for me. I love it and that
dance that black and white dance that video. Everybody. The shifting,
I don't even know how you do it. It's like
shift shift, shift shift Chi in the video in the.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Shifts per second. Yeah, and the dance, And what's so
groundbreaking about that? I'm not a video producer or anything
close to that, but or choreographer, but it's it was
so simple.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
But you are a dancer, yes.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
And I'm and you know what, I am a fan,
so I can appreciate. I know what I like, and
I like what I know. And what I know is
that that was a fantastic album, front to back, cover
to cover. Oh well, of course the I don't know
if I want to say career defining hit Halo.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I love Halo.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Oh my god, I will cry to Halo mash into you.
Halo's Beautiful.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Ave Maria is part of Halo.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Ave Maria is another track.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Maria only.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Sorry.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I think that she doesn't sing ave Maria and Sasha
fears does she?
Speaker 1 (07:08):
She sings it on the I Am disc.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Beyonce. Does she put any spin on the ball or
is it just her saying and ave Maria spin.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
On the ball? I mean she's Beyonce spin goes on
every ball. Oh but she.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Single, ladies, She's fantastic. No, I genuinely love her.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I love her front to back, cover to cover. I
don't know why I keep describing everything as that, but
she's fantastic. She's a hard I mean, you never want
to describe someone as hardworking. That sounds like an uncompliment,
like oh they're nice. It's like, well, everyone's nice, like hardworking, Okay,
but is she? Is there any harder working person in
show business or in business? She's just like gets after it. Anyway.
(07:50):
I love her.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
She's the Queen.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I love that. I love that album. She's the Queen
Scott Onto you, what do we have for number five?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Onto me? I mean, I've got a king? Is my
number five on the countdown. One of the things I
most love about two thousand and eight was Michael Phelps
in the Summer Olympics. Do you remember Michael Phelps?
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Ellie got of course. This is so funny to me
because I have a swimming story for you. Okay, Michael Phelps.
Of course I.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Remember Michael weel you don't remember two thousand, greatest Olympian
of all time. He's tall, he's strong, he's average looking
in a way that I respect. Right, I don't like
Adonis's Okay, Ryan Locke, Lockty or whatever.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Oh Ry Right? Was he the Samels?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, I think that they were friends or friendemies. I
don't know. Michael Phelps good looking man, but not in
an intimidating way. The only way he was intimidating was
when he was swimming in Olympic sized swimming pool and
winning gold medals. You won more of them than anyone ever.
And here's here's I want to hear your swimming story.
We We've talked about some athletics on this podcast before,
(09:05):
so I'll keep it brief. I don't really much care
about most most athletic competition. It's the little like music.
But when the Olympics roll around, they grabbed my attention
for about a week and a half. Yeah, and in
that week and a half, I'm all in, Okay, when
it's you know, women's gymnastics or something couldn't don't I
(09:27):
The day before the Olympics start, I don't know the
name of a single women's gymnast. By the time they've
gotten to the like whatever, the finals, I know them all.
I have strong opinions about them. I get very upset
at the judges for that. There's not There's no one
on earth who's better at knowing when someone stuck the
landing than me. I just I'm like, damn, she stuck
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the landing right. And now swimming, I know even less
about butterfly would I doubt that I could recognize the
butterfly stroke. But man, I I love to watch. I
love to watch Michael Phelps swim and I love to
watch him win. Now what's your swimming story?
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Well, listen, First of all, I concur on all of that,
like I too, I don't. I mean, who's following gymnastics?
Sorry to all of our gymnasts, but outside of the Olympics,
not a lot of people swimming, same all of the
track and field. I'm not paying that much. I'm not
paying that close attention. When the Olympics comes out, I
have nothing but Olympic fever.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Uh it was Beijing, right, the two thousand and eight Olympics.
I think Summer Olympics, sorry, always better than the Winter Olympics.
They just are that just they just are Okay, So
I love the Summer Olympics too. I also loved Michael
Phelps and the he's sort of like, you know, I
(10:47):
like that he was how do I say it without
insulting plain looking as well, because he.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Really focused on this way.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
He was relatable. He was relatable in so many ways
except up for the fact that he was an Olympian
and like, swam faster than most people I don't know,
do anything. So that was incredible. My my, I built
up the swim story.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I can't hear my god, wait, wait, what did you
say it? The story has to do with me sweat?
Speaker 1 (11:20):
It is you swimming? This story is that you. One
of the times I first met you, Scott, you showed
a video. I don't know why. We were all showing
videos of ourselves, right, we were. We Scott and I
were in an improv group together, and we there was
a show where we all showed home videos of ourselves,
(11:41):
and Scott chose a swim video.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
So I can't believe you. I had forgotten that and
I regret you're bringing it up. I said. We all
showed like funny, charming videos of ourselves in our younger years,
and I showed one of like a video I had
made in high school where I was like very silly
jumping into a pool or something, and it was violently unfunny.
It was there was nothing charming about it.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
And I remember thinking, like Scott, I remember thinking it
wasn't as funny as you are, So I thought, why
did he show?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
She was so ashamed? Why are you bringing this up?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I had to take you down a pig because I
had to take you down a peg. No no, no, no, no,
no no no, Scott, it was a charming video. And
when you said Michael Phelps, I thought, oh my gosh,
how funny because I have such a closely related memory
of Scott to like that has to do with swimming,
and it's so funny that you chose Michael Phelps. But
in any case, who doesn't love a hero. By the way,
whenever you think of all American, like the term all
(12:37):
American hero when it comes to Olympians, I always think
of that McDonald's. Like during the Olympics, you know they
always do like an all American or they used to
do an all American meal, do you remember that, And
they would they would to promote the Olympics.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I think, I mean it is because everyone knows that
Olympians eat exactly meals. That's why it's so funny, gorging themselves.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Nothing but Frid Scott. We loved Michael Phelps. He was
a great part of two thousand and eight. We love
the Beijing Olympics. Okay, guys, number four on the countdown,
(13:18):
it's my turn. One of the things I loved about
two thousand and eight. I don't know if you remember this, scout.
John McCain was caught lying to David Letterman. Do you
remember this? What?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
No, I don't remember this at all.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Was iconic, Okay, and I remember exactly where I was.
I was sitting in my my friend's apartment in Los Angeles,
where I was staying because I was there during that
period for two weeks. This was during the John McCain
Barack Obama election, right, and he was supposed to be
on Letterman, make an appearance on Letterman. He was a
guest on Letterman, and like two hours before the show tapes,
he calls Letterman himself. He says, I'm so sorry, I'm
(13:55):
suspending my campaign. I won't be able to appear on
your show tonight. I'm getting back to Washington to fix
the economy.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Letterman, being like a reasonable person, believes the Senator Uh
says okay, sure, yep, got it, Okay, great. They get
Keith Oberman to step in. Meanwhile, I think it's mid show.
It's mid taping. Some of the producers on Letterman look
up from their you know, keyboards and editing tools. They
(14:24):
look up to see a live feed of John McCain
on a Katie Couric show. He's it a couple of
months away. John McCain is not only not headed to Washington,
he is taping a show with Katie Couric, an exclusive
interview with Katie Couric. And yes, so he lied to
Letterman's face. Letterman finds this out before Olberman, Uh is
(14:50):
on the show. He finds us out mid taping. He's like,
excuse me, He's like, wait a second. You know, in fact,
it turns out, well, you guys should all YouTube this
so that I'm not I don't want to like Butcher
the impressions or whatever.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Can we we we want we want. So it's Letterman
and Keith Olberman.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Right, But I think even before that, Letterman's at the
desk saying, in fact, we've just gotten word that he's
not headed back to Washington. In fact, he's taping something
with Katie couric right now. And this is why I
can't do justice because Letterman is a genius and the
back and forth between him and Paul Schaeffer about John
McCain getting caught lining to him, and and here's the thing.
(15:29):
He's deeply respectful of John McCain. He's a war hero,
you know, he's a and so and and and and
fully fully honors that. While at the same time as
the British say, taking the piss out or on what
is the expression.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
I don't think it's taking the piss on. It should
be it should be.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
He is definitely making fun of, uh, John McCain for
being a little bit of a rat and totally lying,
bailing and lying to him. And lets keeps this going
for like weeks talking about how McCain bailed on Letterman
and lied to his face. It is But here's the thing.
(16:10):
What I loved about that whole thing. Nobody is funnier
than David Letterman, of course, and so like his it
was so scared, it was like so bizarrely scandalous, and like,
was John McCain losing his mind because did he think
that nobody would notice that he was taping something down
the street? The very moment. He also he canceled on
(16:33):
David Letterman, and why would he lie to Letterman?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I mean the whole thing. I mean, it seems like
he was done a disservice by his team. That's my
guess in the McCain camp. And let me say, one
person that I would, under no circumstances want to stand
up is David Letterman because he's so beloved. Yeah, he's so.
I don't I haven't seen that clip, or at least
(16:56):
I don't remember it. I bad that he skewedward up
John McCain in a in a nice funny respect.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
For he strikes the perfect balance, he says. So during
the show, he orders the control room to cut to
the live feed of McCain and Cork. Okay, And then,
of course, this is why I don't want to do
an impression, because, lettern.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Says, all I want to do is I want I
really just want to hear.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Your impression doesn't seem to be racing back to the airport,
does he that the airport? He's racing back? You gotta
go fast to the airport. That's me doing my impression. Anyway,
that was I guess you don't remember that at all,
and I'm it was like one of my It was
(17:43):
such a delight to watch. I love David Letterman. I
also like John McCain. I mean, the whole thing was,
you know, a mess. They eventually made up. It was fine,
but it was true entertainment.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
You know what I like. You know what I like
it best about that is that that was that was
the scandal. I know, what a gentle scandal we had.
There was simpler times back in two thousand and eight
when when the scandal the scandal was. You know, a
candidate tells a fib to a late night talk show
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host about his schedule and.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I remember what Scott watching it just jaw dropped, like
I can't believe.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Well, in fairness you you you are a jaw dropper, right,
especially when it comes to Letterman. Someone someone stands up Letterman, Yes,
like a Looney tune like eyesli Yeah, yeah, I mean
you did. You've carried it with you for fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Now, Yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
The shock and amazement has echoed through the decades.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
What a cute little scandal compared to now.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
I have something that I love about about two thousand
and eight that la I also I'm not sure you'll
remember this one. It's a movie, The Dark Night Batman movie,
Heath Ledger as the Joker. Tragic tragic passing of Heath
Ledger sort of cast a pall over this film that
(19:15):
many considered be the greatest superhero movie ever made. Kelly,
did you see it? Did you see The Dark Knight?
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Are you ready to be shocked?
Speaker 2 (19:21):
I am ready to be shocked because my guess is
you hadn't seen it?
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Saw it in the theater?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
What saw? What did you?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I liked it?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Fine?
Speaker 1 (19:32):
You know that I liked it. I mean I didn't.
I could take it or leave it. Scott's lost on me.
Pearls before Swine, Yeah, Pearls before Swine. I mean, it's
just don't sorry, what does that mean?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I don't know what Pearls before swine means.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I'm sure you do. It's putting you a.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Lipstick on a pig. That's Sarah palin Is.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I've never understood lipstick on a pig. She said it.
Someone got upset. Who's putting my stick on?
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Which I don't even remember to tell you the truth
that the Pearls before Swine seems similar, but the wine.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Is it's a wonderful art cast before somebody who has
who is a Cretan. It's like, oh, I have no
appreciation of it, So pearls before swine. I have no
doubt that The Dark Knight is a work of art,
but it's lost on this caveman me. I just have
to tell you something really fast, which is that the
reason it left such an impression on me is not
the movie itself, but because I saw it with Michael Coleman,
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my then boyfriend, and he cried during it. He sobbed.
Is it a movie?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
That's because you're that's because you're married to a real man? Okay,
the end of The Dark Knight, Just for those of
you may have forgotten the film, just skip ahead like
twenty five minutes if you haven't seen it. You don't
want to be spoiled, because I'm going to spend that
long pitching it. That's a joke. I'll be brief. At
the end, Harvey Dent two face, the hero of Gotham
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has died and he's disgraced himself by turning into a madman,
and the police are going to find out and Finishoner
Gordon realized it's gonna be a catastrophe. The city of
Gotham is going to lose faith in its hero. And
then Batman agrees to take the fall, and he agrees
to basically allow himself to take the blame for all
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of these horrific crimes that Harvey Dent has committed. And
Commissioner Gordon says, you can't do that. You're a hero,
and Batman says, I'm whatever Gotham needs me to be,
and then he runs. And Batman horribly horribly wounded at
this point, and there are cops that are chasing and
they release dogs, and dogs, rotten miler dogs are chasing
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after a wounded Batman. And as he's hobbling, hobbling away
and these dogs are running after him, Commissioner Gordon explains
to his young son that Batman's just saved. He explains
that they have to hunt him because Batman can take it,
because he's not a hero. He's a silent guardian, a
watchful protector, a darkness. Oh and in that moment, Batman's
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on his back cycle and he zooms off, and then
the title of the film lands, the Dark Night, and
it's like one of the best endings to the movie ever.
It not only contains the title of the movie. In
the movie, it is the last line of the movie,
and boy, oh boy, it's a hammer blow to pretty
much everyone with a heart. So I'm not surprised at
(22:23):
all that Michael Coleman was moved by it.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I can't believe this year. I mean, Michael Phelps, you're
naming two like really sort of items with a global reach,
Michael Phelps, the Dark Knight. Like, if you're looking for
people with impact, look no further than the two things
you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I mean, the Dark Knight, Barack Obama, well, John Mac
these are.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
These are wide people with a wide far reach.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Beyonce, the people that went without intending to the people
that have come up in this podcast, this celebratory conversation
about two thousand and eight. Barack Obama, Batman, Michael Phelps,
Beyonce and David Letterman, Like, those vibes should be on
the Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I know they should.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Awesome American badass.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yes, Scott, that's that's the end of the movie. That
quote what you just said, because that's absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
So top that, Ellie. I dare you, what's what's item
number two on the countdown? I think your last one.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
It's my last one, but it's a personal one. So
it's not going to top the it's not going to
make the rush more mountain carving, but it is going
to make me happy to remember it. It was my
Upper west Side sublet now, Scott.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Oh, I love it Upper west Side sublat.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
So, Scott. Here's why I loved it so much.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
It was.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
It was the first apartment I had. Scott and I
lived together. So I don't want to I'm not saying
I didn't love going home to that apartment. Okay, Scott
and I lived with roommate us. We loved going home.
But this is what I want to say about this
special apartment. It was just me in the apartment. It
was a sublet from uh. The owner's name was Lauren Rott.
(24:14):
I hope I can say that.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Maybe she's like, you know what our lawyers will tell
us if you can't after the thing, I think to
ask for forgiveness, not permission.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
That's what I always say. And it's it's it's famatory.
It's not defamatory.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
No, it's cell.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Because I loved it so much. Her apartment. It was
my first apartment where I felt home and even though
it wasn't mine. It was full of her stuff. It
was a she had left a lot of stuff there.
But it felt like I had space to be be.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Myself and so to become the person you were born.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
If I if I wrote, Michelle, you take it right out.
It was the first time in my you'll see, I
was twenty eight in two thousand and eight, I felt
like I was uh an adult for the first time.
Now that might sound sad to everybody, and maybe even
it's a little bit embarrassing, but that was when I
felt like I had some sort of independence. Because it
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also coincided with a time where I was booking work
and I felt motivated to accomplish more and to stick
keep at it. And so I really liked this apartment
because not only was it a symbol of my womanhood,
Oh what is she getting into? But it was also
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don't worry, I just meant like as a becoming, but
it also I was blossoming, and so I felt it
was a delayed adolescence maybe, but that I remember because
what and if you had asked me out of the
Blue Alley, what what did you love about two thousand
and eight? Sure, Michael Phelps Barack Obama, Sasha fears Batman Batman.
(25:58):
But I've discovered this as I was, as I was
really really reflecting on two thousand and eight, I thought, oh,
two thousand and eight, that was the year, and so yeah,
so I I just remember that apartment and not so
much even it wasn't the apartment itself, it was just
it was sort of what it stood for. Because I
felt like, all right, this is I made some very
concrete decisions to take myself more seriously.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yeah, I mean we should have mentioned the context up top.
I think that two thousand and eight, because of this
day we were, that was sort of our prime, right,
like late prime, late twenty operating on all cylinders.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
That's what I said.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
We got we're youthful. Yep, we're full of youth, but
we've also got enough maturity to harness that youth.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Not long after downhill, just stay decline.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
We've been on my thirtieth birthday, so.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Oh everything, family, frailty, starting start eating dinner at six fifteen.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
I think it's a little sad. So you're exactly right, Scott,
because you're not making foolish decisions to stay up all
night out partying in the pubs. You're we lived in Britain,
Scott and I did for a while. We were always
out at the pubs. But but you're you're exactly right,
You're you're on that You're at the the.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
The Pinnacle. I think you're I remember.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
And you're you're at the Apex.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
The Apex. I think I remember that apartment Ellie and Jim.
I remember how you decorated it. There was one unusual
decoration that stuck with me all these years. It was
a picture of correct me if I'm wrong. It was
a beautiful lady and her family in a nice frame.
And one of the first times I visited that apartment,
(27:45):
I was like, oh, well, who is who is that?
Because I mean, well we knew we've known each other
long enough that that I recognize. I think you know
the members of your family, So it's like, who is
who is that? And do you do you remember this frame? Ellie?
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Yeah, it was. It was like the picture they sell
you at the store, right.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
M h it was was it? You were with no
shame whatsoever, and I'm obviously mocking you for this. You
were like, oh no, it's the it's the it's the picture.
Of the family that came in the frame and it
was hung on your wall, and I was like, why
are you like waiting for a picture to replace it?
(28:24):
And you were sincerely like, no, No, I just like
I like the frame and I like the picture. I mean, so.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
It's literally like red flags every alarm with this woman
has no soul, like me, like, what's wrong? I mean
that was me entering my woman. I guess placing me
like a family.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
I wish I had it was a vision of the
vision of what you want asition.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
I don't know. I so clearly remember it, and I'm
worry about this young woman me. I mean, why'd you say?
What happened to the frame?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yeah? What happened to the word that?
Speaker 1 (29:01):
If I had to guess, I still have a storage
unit Manhattan Mini Storage. I bet it's there somewhere in midtime.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
What I hope, what I hope is that eventually, Yeah,
that that that that sample picture was taken out, thrown away,
and replaced by a photo of yourself and your own family.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
My two young boys. You can keep hoping, Scott, because
I don't think I ever did that, all right, Scott?
That was number two?
Speaker 2 (29:30):
All right, Ellie, my last thing. My favorite thing about
two thousand and eight also a little personal. I think
that we're we can't help but see the world through
the lens of our own experience. My favorite thing about
two thousand and eight was a kitten, Scott, little baby kitten.
(29:52):
I maybe need some background. We got to rewind the clock.
A couple of years. I met a woman, fell in love.
Her name is Vanessa. We're currently married. I dated her
for one year, and right around our one year anniversary,
we decided to take the next step and we moved
in together. We moved into our own apartment together. And
another year passed and we were still in love, and
(30:15):
Vanessa was starting to get inklings about, well, what's the
next step? What's the next step? Right? Maybe a ring
on my finger? And instead, do you know what I did, Ellie,
oh oh? I got her a kitten. And it was
the cutest little kitten that you could possibly imagine. And
it was a kitten. It wasn't my cat, it wasn't
(30:36):
her cat. It was our cat. So it was like
a really nice It's like, all right, we've already moved
in together. Here's the next step. We're sharing a pet.
Another year past she's got those inklings, Ellie, she got inklings, right,
She's waiting, she's waiting for someone to pop the question.
And do you know what I did? I got her
(30:58):
another kitten.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Wait a minute, so what year is that? Which is
the birth? Is the kitten? Is the first kid? Two
thousand and eight?
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Kid number two is two thousand and eight? Oh yeah, well,
I think she was grateful for the second kitten, and
that kitten is with us today. His name is Donald.
All these years later, we love him to death. The problem, though,
of course, is that she well, while appreciating Donald the cat,
she was undisappointed. Well, she wasn't expecting another kittenap.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
She was maybe hoping for a different next step.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
She was hoping for, yes, an engagement ring. She was
asking for a proposal, and I was kicking the can.
So wise words. Any listeners out there considering getting engaged,
You can defer it with a pet, but that only
works once. It doesn't work two times.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Did you just say I'm sorry? What was the name
of the cat.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
The cat's name is Donald Donald.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
I didn't realize Donald.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Is still Yeah, Donald is still still around. He lives
with my mother. A little god got a little senile
in his old age meals all the time. I'm glad
that he lives with her and not us. We have
a new kitten, even cuter than Donald. But you know what,
we're not here to talk about that. We're here to
nostalgically remember the highs of two thousand and eight, and
(32:25):
one of my highs was getting this beautiful kitten, Donald
and then eventually getting engaged to my wife. That happened
a little little later that Captain.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
I can't remember when you got engaged.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
It was the year two thousand and nine.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
I love that you got her another kitten. I you
know what, just like it was my I took being
single and independent with a fake family to the next level.
You took your relationship with Vanessa and co ownership of
the kitten and building the eventual human family you would have,
or prepping for the eventual well human family you would have,
(33:01):
to the next level.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
And I think, well, that's the thing. See, we've had,
we have two kids now, it was only appropriate that
we would have two cats. That makes sense. So another moment,
you've convinced me, Ellie that I made the right decision
that I wasn't, you know, afraid of marriage being sensible.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Yes, I completely agree with me on that.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Well, there's so much to love about two thousand and eight, Ellie.
If you stick around with us, listeners, we're going to
play a special round of love It or Loathe It
with other items from two thousand and eight, and we're
going to have to decide if we love them or
if we loathe them. They're going to be a surprise
to us. Our producers are going to spring them on us.
So stick around and we're back. We're back for Born
(33:53):
to Love more Born to Love. Thanks, thanks for joining us, guys,
thanks for sticking around. I'm Scott Ecker. We're gonna play
a game called love It or loaths It? Ellie. How
does this game work?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
This game works like this. We're gonna love items at
each other. We don't know which is who, so we're
gonna always be surprised by the item of our partner
has lobbed at us. And by the way, after they
love that item at us, we're going to respond with
a love of that item or a loath of that
Let me be clear, there's no in between. Scott. You
can be like, yeah, I kind of like it, I
don't really love that it's love it or.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Loath it, no equivocating. All right, Ellie, do you want
to go first or should I?
Speaker 1 (34:32):
I'm gonna start with a whopper.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Of a lob to you, okay, Scott.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Love It two thousand and eight. Two thousand and eight
was what we talked about all episode long.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Loving Her, Loathe It, Katie Perry, love on Bashion Love Now.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
I gotta tell you I love Beyonce probably more, but
like it's tough, It's real tough. I remember I went
on a birthday a trip up to my friend's little
cabin in Massachusetts, and we played a playlist of one
for the for half the car right, and it was
It's hot and It's cold. I don't know, and that's enough.
(35:14):
But I love that song. And we listened to it.
I'm not exaggerating, probably thirty minutes straight until my friend,
who was driving and actually has better taste of music
than I do, literally whispered under his breath, let's turn
this off. Well, yeah, and I love Katie Perry. Another
thing I love about her. I think that this was
(35:36):
later in life, but she got married. So what was
that actor? The British guy Russell Russell Brand? And then
he caused him any scandal because like he did something
where she was sleeping and he woke her up and
he was like, hey, Katy, Hey, Katy, wake up. And
then he took a picture of her and then he
posted it and it was like, I don't know, kind
of an unflattering picture because she had just woken up
and then all these people were up in arms and oh,
(35:58):
you know, she doesn't look like she does with make
up on or it was so horrible for him to
post this picture. But I love her. I'm now trying
to connect those things. But just like seeing her normally
without making seeing not just without makeup, but just like,
I don't know, I'm just like, ooh, are you wrong. Yeah.
I was just like, oh, Katy Perry is the best.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Oh my, your love for her is huge.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Yeah, Ellie, Yeah, I've got one for you, picked by
the producers. It's another music one, Viva Lovida by Coldplay.
We all know that hit, that smash hit, Viva Lovida love. Well,
how does it go? Because as soon as I saw it,
I was like, Lovita, I.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Thought that's what you were going to say, and I
was prepared with an answer. But you're not talking about
that one. All I know is it's part of the
bump bum.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
I know that song also, also love it.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
I love that whole album. I don't, I don't necessarily
is that the name of the album.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
I think it's the album. I think it's a I
love it.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
It's yeah, And here's the thing, so I don't know,
like on an artistic level, if it's actually good. I love.
All I know is how it makes me feel, and
it makes me feel like I've been reborn. So I
love everything, love, love, love.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
You're living the life Viva loviva. Yeah, I think that's
what it means.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
I think it does too. But I did think you
were going to say the Ricky Martin song. But I
love that song love Okay, I mean, or that album.
I don't know what it is. I just I know
that it's all the same under the same umbrella. Scott
love it or loath it. You'll remember we were talking
about Michael Phelps earlier in swimming.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
I do remember that, Yeah, just moments ago.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Love it or love that? Cupping? Do you know what
that is?
Speaker 2 (37:49):
What is cupping?
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Swimmers do it? It is?
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Uh, it's like supposed I know what it is, and
they like it's like circles and freaks me out. Freaks
me out. My sister in law does that sometimes, and I,
you know, if it's for medicinal stuff, I mean, I
you know, everybody needs the therapy that they need, but
I I find it. I find it physically a little revolting.
(38:15):
How about you, Ellie? What do you wh Where do
you land on cupping?
Speaker 1 (38:18):
We've never done this before. Lobbed it back, but I
loathe it too.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Okay, good, we're on the same page. Yeah, it's weird, fantastic.
Let me give you another one, Ellie. Love it or
loathe it? Gossip Girl?
Speaker 1 (38:34):
You know what I feel.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
You got it?
Speaker 1 (38:38):
I know, I know, and I hate it. When I
don't hate it, but sometimes when our guests are like,
I'll follow the rules, loathe it.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Loathe it? All right, So you've never seen it. Here's
here's here's here's a little secret. I've never seen it either.
Loath loath gossip Girl, loath. You know what I was
in my prime in two thousand and eight, I was
old for Gossip Girl. And here's my right true opinion.
You guys are well aware of how old I am.
Gossip Girl poor Man's nine o two one. Oh, oh,
(39:06):
absolutely poor Man's uh o C the OC. You give
me some of the O C. I'll eat it right up,
gobble it up. Those rich teens getting into and having
sex with each other, they did it better. They did
it better when I was young. By the time I
(39:27):
was you know, my time was two thousand and eight
and Gossip Girls, rich teens having sex with each other
no longer interested. It passed its shelf life expired. Done
and also Scott.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
It took place in New York. The two shows you
cited nine O two one O obviously Beverly Hills and
the OC obviously Orange County. This one New York. And
we didn't. We weren't into it, all right.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
I was living on the mean streets.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Of New York A show to dramatize it.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
No, I didn't need some fancy rich teen who never
rides the way I mean. I was taking the train
every day. It's tough when we've not seen this stuff.
Maybe it's great that we have seen.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Honestly, I love it, love it or loathe it?
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Oh, yeah, okay, love it or loathe it? M Twilight,
Oh love story about vampires? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:31):
You love a vampires.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
It's you know everything I just said about Gossip Girl,
I'm now exposed as a liar because because it's like
Twilight is young teens having soapy sex with each other,
except one of them is a vampire, and I'm here
for it. Sign me up. I'm into it.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
I've never seen I've never seen it.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Well, you know what it's about. It's about a girl
who falls in love with a sexy vampire. Right, Yeah, yes,
that's what it's about. Seeing the movie, read the book.
I was on that train for sure.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Did you see the movie in two thousand and eight?
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Mmm, I don't know. I don't remember exactly when it
came out. I assume it came out in two thousand
and eight because it's on our list. I did see
the movie when it came out, and I had already
read the book. You give me any kind of dorky
world building stuff, yeah, I can't help myself get into it.
My daughter was watching the like new my Little Pony,
(41:27):
and I found myself being like, wait a minute, so
what are the rules of Equestria?
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Like?
Speaker 2 (41:32):
So what kinds of flavors of magic? Arthur? I'm a
sucker for it. So when May came out and it
was a young girl's romance with a vampire who's been
living in a coven for hundreds of years. I was like,
I think I'm interested in that.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Yeah, well of course you, of course you were.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
I guess this is a tradition, lobbing it right back
at you, Twilight, What do you think.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Well, I've never seen it, so I guess I loath it.
I mean, apparently it's like if I haven't seen something,
I automatically love it. I guess it's innocent, innocent until
for a reason, right, Yeah, nothing about it appeals to me.
I hate imagining. I hate fantastical, like fantasy.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
Science fiction, fantasy, all that kind.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
I don't like it. Why am I apologizing? That's who
I am. I don't like it. I give it to
me else I'll throw it back in your face. I'll
send it back to the kitchen.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
This is the last one, and I got a feeling.
I know exactly how you're going to react to it.
Put yourself back in two thousand and eight. You are
living in that studio apartment, and I delivered to you
a fresh, brand spanking new pair of UG boots. Do
you love them or do you load them?
Speaker 1 (42:43):
I love them. I love them. And here's the thing,
Scott that I want to tell you about ug boots,
because my mom got me a pair for Christmas way
before they were popular, and now they I mean, it's
twenty twenty three. Now they've gone through so many ups
and downs and cycles of popularity, and I don't even
know if they're cool anymore.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
I wear ugs still the same pair. Do you wear
ugs from two thousand and eight, which is sadder wearing
hugs that you got in two thousand and eight or
ugs that you purchased in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
I guess it's the ones you purchased, because what are
you doing it's twenty twenty three, I guess, But you remember.
I don't remember if in two thousand and eight they
were at the height of being cool, so I won't
remember this. All I know is I received a gift
of ugs from my mom before they were cool, before
they had gotten that labels of cool, before they'd been anointed,
and I thought, these are really like crazy looking and ugly,
(43:36):
and my mom like somehow knew, like she had her
finger on the pulse of cutting edge fashion. So when
they became popular, I already had a pair and I've
always remained I remained forever grateful to my mom for
boosting me to the next level of fashion.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
To this day.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Yeah, Ellie Kemper, the next level of fashion?
Speaker 2 (44:02):
What level do you think that is?
Speaker 1 (44:05):
Two?
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Like if she boosted you to the next level on
a scale, like if there were ten levels, where do
you think I fall on a scale of one to
ten fashion? Like an eight or nine?
Speaker 1 (44:17):
Ten is the most fashionable?
Speaker 2 (44:19):
That it was a joke, but I did it just
to see your reaction.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
My reaction was white eyed, jaw dropped.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
It was the cartoon jaw dropping.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Or it was it was McCain, the revelation that McCain
was on for it. No, this this uh yeah, no, no,
the next the next level is yeah, it boosted me
from one to two. Why are you making me say
it out loud? I'm not a fashionable person.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
No, you're pretty fashionable.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
No I'm not.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
But do you think ug did? Is it short for ugly?
Speaker 1 (44:50):
It's ugg?
Speaker 2 (44:52):
So I know it's ugg, but like where does it come?
Speaker 1 (44:54):
I don't know?
Speaker 2 (44:57):
But well, I'm asking you to guess. Do you think
that do you think that they were like damn, these
these are ugly?
Speaker 1 (45:03):
No?
Speaker 2 (45:03):
And change and.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Change because they're from Australia. I believe it's an Australia.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Look at.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
Thank you. So I don't think that. I don't think there.
I don't is ugly, I don't, I don't. I don't
know because I don't, I don't know if.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
That's put another shrimp on the bobby and wear these ugly.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
So maybe it did come from ugly ugly, sure for
ugly in Australian.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
I convinced you you did well.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
It was the final impression you did with the shrimps
on the barbie. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Yeah, it's not so much an impression, is just an accent.
That a masterful one. All right, Ellie, Well, I have
loved this trip down memory Lane, Memory Lane back to
two thousand and eight, one of the greats and Memberlely Lane,
let's take you back to one. Well, Ellie, I've loved
this trip down Memberley Lane, going down.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
What if you always said memory is Memberley and I
never corrected you?
Speaker 2 (46:07):
All right, let me try it again. Oh well that
was odd. You know what, I love, Delie. I love
this trip down Memberley Lane. The problem is because I'm
doing it purposely each time, but I can't stop from laughing.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
So I think my favorite memorily of you is that
swimming video to be perfectly.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Oh, I mean that I regret that memory.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
So I read the article on how to improve your
short term memory. You have to eat a lot more
vitamin I think it's vitamin A.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
I can't remember. Look. The thing that makes me worry
about the short term Memberley thing is that it is
that if you do the things for short term memberly,
does that hurt your long term.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Member le No, but in cats the song Memberly.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
It's my favorite Songmberly.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
All right, Scott, as always, thanks for.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
The memberlies, Thanks for listening to Born to Love. We'll
be back next week with brand new things that we love.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
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Speaker 2 (47:20):
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Speaker 1 (47:23):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Welcome back to the podcast guys, a brand new episode.
I'm Scott Ecker.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
I'm Ellie Kemper. Here on board. He love we talk
about things we love. Scott, I'm excited. I don't like to.
I don't want to alienate any guests who have been
on our show or any future guests who have yet
to come. But I'm not mad at the episodes when
it's just you and me.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Oh, it's a Scott an Ellie special, Ellie Scott special.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah. So normally we'll be on a celebrity guest comedian
of some sort to talk about what they love. Always
this week it's just us.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah, it's just us.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
And it's not a celebrities or comedians or people persons
of interest or.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
We've had athletes, we've had religious figures, we've had our
various times, we've had deep sea divers, we've had teas.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
It's so funny you said deep sea divers. I was
thinking deep sea divers in my head the moment that
you said it, because we've had.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
So many anyway, but today it's just.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
So Today it's a special countdown.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a special countdown. Pull up to
the couch or pull up to the fire, Get cozy,
because we're going to talk about our favorite things from
the year two.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Thousand and eight. Two thousand and eight. We're born to
love two thousand and eight. Yes, a seminal year. We
chose this before I fully appreciated what a big deal
two thousand and eight was. No, and then I did
some research for the episode, and it's like, wow, it
may be one of the most exciting years in recent memory, yelling.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
It was actually in a crazy year, and you could
look back on many years and say, oh, it's a
crazy year, but this year is so much happened, both
good and bad. But of course we're going to focus
on the things that we loved about it. But okay,
first of all, well, you had Scott in the world. Okay,
let's just say it, get it out of the way.
There was a financial crisis, Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
That was going financial crisis, a little something called the
Great Recession started presidential election, a big one.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Huge one. Obama McCain Obama.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I guess you want to know a secret, Eli. Yeah.
I thought they're both cool guys. I would like a
little more of that. I like them don't disagree.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
If you're looking for someone to argue with you, you're
not going to find it here. Get that deep sea
diver back.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
On also well, technological breakthroughs left and right. In two
thousand and eight, Ellie, I think that two thousand and
eight was the year I got an iPhone, and he
came out in two thousand and seven. I got one.
I think in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Oh wow, you waited that long. Sorry, Judge, Judge.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Got a first I'm not a first generation iPhone person.
I'm not fancy enough to get a iPhone version one.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I feel like I did, but I'm sure I'm wrong.
I'm sure I'm wrong. I'm misremembering history there, Okay, but yeah,
see iPhone. Just to give everybody some background, that's how
new the iPhone was. Scott, I don't remember well. Scott
remembers he got one. Then mad Men was coming. Mad
Men was huge, Breaking Bad was huge. Airbnb was just
emerging as a place to stay away from home.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Airbnb now a verb, but no one had ever heard
of it in two thousand and eight, that's when it
came out. So we're going to go through a countdown style.
Ellie and I have picked the three things that we
most love about two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I'm gonna kick off the countdown with something I love
from two thousand and eight, and Scott as I was
researching two thousand and eight as well. It really does
occur to It strikes you, like, wow, some of our
favorite artists today. Not that artists should ever have a
you know, short artistic life span, like that, they should
keep reinventing themselves and creating new I was struck by
(04:00):
the musicians, actors, artists, performers. I mean, two thousand and
eight isn't that long ago. On the other hand, it's
a lifetime ago, and so many of our current performers
were huge then too. So I'm an artist. So there
you go. One prime example of that is my number
six in the countdown Things I Loved of WHEK that
we both loved in two thousand and eight. I Am
(04:23):
Sasha Fierce, the album by Beyonce. It's the year, y'all
say what that was? The year that album was released.
I love that album. I still do. I don't know
if you know this, but the idea behind I Am
Dot Dot Dot Ellipses Sasha Fears is that Sasha Fearce,
(04:47):
of course, is Beyonce's on stage persona that she becomes
when she is performing. There are two discs.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
It's her alter ego.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
There are two discs to this album I Am.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Where they were they they were still selling them as
discs back then, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
You know it. So the first disc was called I
Am and the second disc was called Sasha Fiers. Now
I don't know if everybody knows I'm serious.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Well I didn't. I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
That's what I'm telling you. The first disc is the
more contemplative, soul searching, introspective piece. The second disc is
Sasha Fiers. So there's gonna be a lot of dancing.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
And it's just dances? Can I So? Look, as longtime
listeners the podcast may or may not know, Scott Eckert
hates music. That's an exaggeration. Let's just say I'm not
a big aficionado of music. But I do know Beyonce lover.
I've heard of this album for sure? Is this all
(05:51):
the single? Ladies? Is it on? This particular single?
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Ladies is the first track?
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, so you know that's going to kick things off
all time great for me. I love it and that
dance that black and white dance that video. Everybody. The shifting,
I don't even know how you do it. It's like
shift shift, shift shift Chi in the video in the.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Shifts per second. Yeah, and the dance, And what's so
groundbreaking about that? I'm not a video producer or anything
close to that, but or choreographer, but it's it was
so simple.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
But you are a dancer, yes.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
And I'm and you know what, I am a fan,
so I can appreciate. I know what I like, and
I like what I know. And what I know is
that that was a fantastic album, front to back, cover
to cover. Oh well, of course the I don't know
if I want to say career defining hit Halo.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I love Halo.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Oh my god, I will cry to Halo mash into you.
Halo's Beautiful.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Ave Maria is part of Halo.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Ave Maria is another track.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Maria only.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Sorry.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I think that she doesn't sing ave Maria and Sasha
fears does she?
Speaker 1 (07:08):
She sings it on the I Am disc.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Beyonce. Does she put any spin on the ball or
is it just her saying and ave Maria spin.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
On the ball? I mean she's Beyonce spin goes on
every ball. Oh but she.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Single, ladies, She's fantastic. No, I genuinely love her.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I love her front to back, cover to cover. I
don't know why I keep describing everything as that, but
she's fantastic. She's a hard I mean, you never want
to describe someone as hardworking. That sounds like an uncompliment,
like oh they're nice. It's like, well, everyone's nice, like hardworking, Okay,
but is she? Is there any harder working person in
show business or in business? She's just like gets after it. Anyway.
(07:50):
I love her.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
She's the Queen.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I love that. I love that album. She's the Queen
Scott Onto you, what do we have for number five?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Onto me? I mean, I've got a king? Is my
number five on the countdown. One of the things I
most love about two thousand and eight was Michael Phelps
in the Summer Olympics. Do you remember Michael Phelps?
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Ellie got of course. This is so funny to me
because I have a swimming story for you. Okay, Michael Phelps.
Of course I.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Remember Michael weel you don't remember two thousand, greatest Olympian
of all time. He's tall, he's strong, he's average looking
in a way that I respect. Right, I don't like
Adonis's Okay, Ryan Locke, Lockty or whatever.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Oh Ry Right? Was he the Samels?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, I think that they were friends or friendemies. I
don't know. Michael Phelps good looking man, but not in
an intimidating way. The only way he was intimidating was
when he was swimming in Olympic sized swimming pool and
winning gold medals. You won more of them than anyone ever.
And here's here's I want to hear your swimming story.
We We've talked about some athletics on this podcast before,
(09:05):
so I'll keep it brief. I don't really much care
about most most athletic competition. It's the little like music.
But when the Olympics roll around, they grabbed my attention
for about a week and a half. Yeah, and in
that week and a half, I'm all in, Okay, when
it's you know, women's gymnastics or something couldn't don't I
(09:27):
The day before the Olympics start, I don't know the
name of a single women's gymnast. By the time they've
gotten to the like whatever, the finals, I know them all.
I have strong opinions about them. I get very upset
at the judges for that. There's not There's no one
on earth who's better at knowing when someone stuck the
landing than me. I just I'm like, damn, she stuck
(09:49):
the landing right. And now swimming, I know even less
about butterfly would I doubt that I could recognize the
butterfly stroke. But man, I I love to watch. I
love to watch Michael Phelps swim and I love to
watch him win. Now what's your swimming story?
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Well, listen, First of all, I concur on all of that,
like I too, I don't. I mean, who's following gymnastics?
Sorry to all of our gymnasts, but outside of the Olympics,
not a lot of people swimming, same all of the
track and field. I'm not paying that much. I'm not
paying that close attention. When the Olympics comes out, I
have nothing but Olympic fever.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Uh it was Beijing, right, the two thousand and eight Olympics.
I think Summer Olympics, sorry, always better than the Winter Olympics.
They just are that just they just are Okay, So
I love the Summer Olympics too. I also loved Michael
Phelps and the he's sort of like, you know, I
(10:47):
like that he was how do I say it without
insulting plain looking as well, because he.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Really focused on this way.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
He was relatable. He was relatable in so many ways
except up for the fact that he was an Olympian
and like, swam faster than most people I don't know,
do anything. So that was incredible. My my, I built
up the swim story.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I can't hear my god, wait, wait, what did you
say it? The story has to do with me sweat?
Speaker 1 (11:20):
It is you swimming? This story is that you. One
of the times I first met you, Scott, you showed
a video. I don't know why. We were all showing
videos of ourselves, right, we were. We Scott and I
were in an improv group together, and we there was
a show where we all showed home videos of ourselves,
(11:41):
and Scott chose a swim video.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
So I can't believe you. I had forgotten that and
I regret you're bringing it up. I said. We all
showed like funny, charming videos of ourselves in our younger years,
and I showed one of like a video I had
made in high school where I was like very silly
jumping into a pool or something, and it was violently unfunny.
It was there was nothing charming about it.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
And I remember thinking, like Scott, I remember thinking it
wasn't as funny as you are, So I thought, why
did he show?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
She was so ashamed? Why are you bringing this up?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I had to take you down a pig because I
had to take you down a peg. No no, no, no, no,
no no no, Scott, it was a charming video. And
when you said Michael Phelps, I thought, oh my gosh,
how funny because I have such a closely related memory
of Scott to like that has to do with swimming,
and it's so funny that you chose Michael Phelps. But
in any case, who doesn't love a hero. By the way,
whenever you think of all American, like the term all
(12:37):
American hero when it comes to Olympians, I always think
of that McDonald's. Like during the Olympics, you know they
always do like an all American or they used to
do an all American meal, do you remember that, And
they would they would to promote the Olympics.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I think, I mean it is because everyone knows that
Olympians eat exactly meals. That's why it's so funny, gorging themselves.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Nothing but Frid Scott. We loved Michael Phelps. He was
a great part of two thousand and eight. We love
the Beijing Olympics. Okay, guys, number four on the countdown,
(13:18):
it's my turn. One of the things I loved about
two thousand and eight. I don't know if you remember this, scout.
John McCain was caught lying to David Letterman. Do you
remember this? What?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
No, I don't remember this at all.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Was iconic, Okay, and I remember exactly where I was.
I was sitting in my my friend's apartment in Los Angeles,
where I was staying because I was there during that
period for two weeks. This was during the John McCain
Barack Obama election, right, and he was supposed to be
on Letterman, make an appearance on Letterman. He was a
guest on Letterman, and like two hours before the show tapes,
he calls Letterman himself. He says, I'm so sorry, I'm
(13:55):
suspending my campaign. I won't be able to appear on
your show tonight. I'm getting back to Washington to fix
the economy.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Letterman, being like a reasonable person, believes the Senator Uh
says okay, sure, yep, got it, Okay, great. They get
Keith Oberman to step in. Meanwhile, I think it's mid show.
It's mid taping. Some of the producers on Letterman look
up from their you know, keyboards and editing tools. They
(14:24):
look up to see a live feed of John McCain
on a Katie Couric show. He's it a couple of
months away. John McCain is not only not headed to Washington,
he is taping a show with Katie Couric, an exclusive
interview with Katie Couric. And yes, so he lied to
Letterman's face. Letterman finds this out before Olberman, Uh is
(14:50):
on the show. He finds us out mid taping. He's like,
excuse me, He's like, wait a second. You know, in fact,
it turns out, well, you guys should all YouTube this
so that I'm not I don't want to like Butcher
the impressions or whatever.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Can we we we want we want. So it's Letterman
and Keith Olberman.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Right, But I think even before that, Letterman's at the
desk saying, in fact, we've just gotten word that he's
not headed back to Washington. In fact, he's taping something
with Katie couric right now. And this is why I
can't do justice because Letterman is a genius and the
back and forth between him and Paul Schaeffer about John
McCain getting caught lining to him, and and here's the thing.
(15:29):
He's deeply respectful of John McCain. He's a war hero,
you know, he's a and so and and and and
fully fully honors that. While at the same time as
the British say, taking the piss out or on what
is the expression.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
I don't think it's taking the piss on. It should
be it should be.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
He is definitely making fun of, uh, John McCain for
being a little bit of a rat and totally lying,
bailing and lying to him. And lets keeps this going
for like weeks talking about how McCain bailed on Letterman
and lied to his face. It is But here's the thing.
(16:10):
What I loved about that whole thing. Nobody is funnier
than David Letterman, of course, and so like his it
was so scared, it was like so bizarrely scandalous, and like,
was John McCain losing his mind because did he think
that nobody would notice that he was taping something down
the street? The very moment. He also he canceled on
(16:33):
David Letterman, and why would he lie to Letterman?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I mean the whole thing. I mean, it seems like
he was done a disservice by his team. That's my
guess in the McCain camp. And let me say, one
person that I would, under no circumstances want to stand
up is David Letterman because he's so beloved. Yeah, he's so.
I don't I haven't seen that clip, or at least
(16:56):
I don't remember it. I bad that he skewedward up
John McCain in a in a nice funny respect.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
For he strikes the perfect balance, he says. So during
the show, he orders the control room to cut to
the live feed of McCain and Cork. Okay, And then,
of course, this is why I don't want to do
an impression, because, lettern.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Says, all I want to do is I want I
really just want to hear.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Your impression doesn't seem to be racing back to the airport,
does he that the airport? He's racing back? You gotta
go fast to the airport. That's me doing my impression. Anyway,
that was I guess you don't remember that at all,
and I'm it was like one of my It was
(17:43):
such a delight to watch. I love David Letterman. I
also like John McCain. I mean, the whole thing was,
you know, a mess. They eventually made up. It was fine,
but it was true entertainment.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
You know what I like. You know what I like
it best about that is that that was that was
the scandal. I know, what a gentle scandal we had.
There was simpler times back in two thousand and eight
when when the scandal the scandal was. You know, a
candidate tells a fib to a late night talk show
(18:15):
host about his schedule and.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I remember what Scott watching it just jaw dropped, like
I can't believe.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Well, in fairness you you you are a jaw dropper, right,
especially when it comes to Letterman. Someone someone stands up Letterman, Yes,
like a Looney tune like eyesli Yeah, yeah, I mean
you did. You've carried it with you for fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Now, Yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
The shock and amazement has echoed through the decades.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
What a cute little scandal compared to now.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
I have something that I love about about two thousand
and eight that la I also I'm not sure you'll
remember this one. It's a movie, The Dark Night Batman movie,
Heath Ledger as the Joker. Tragic tragic passing of Heath
Ledger sort of cast a pall over this film that
(19:15):
many considered be the greatest superhero movie ever made. Kelly,
did you see it? Did you see The Dark Knight?
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Are you ready to be shocked?
Speaker 2 (19:21):
I am ready to be shocked because my guess is
you hadn't seen it?
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Saw it in the theater?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
What saw? What did you?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I liked it?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Fine?
Speaker 1 (19:32):
You know that I liked it. I mean I didn't.
I could take it or leave it. Scott's lost on me.
Pearls before Swine, Yeah, Pearls before Swine. I mean, it's
just don't sorry, what does that mean?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I don't know what Pearls before swine means.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I'm sure you do. It's putting you a.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Lipstick on a pig. That's Sarah palin Is.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I've never understood lipstick on a pig. She said it.
Someone got upset. Who's putting my stick on?
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Which I don't even remember to tell you the truth
that the Pearls before Swine seems similar, but the wine.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Is it's a wonderful art cast before somebody who has
who is a Cretan. It's like, oh, I have no
appreciation of it, So pearls before swine. I have no
doubt that The Dark Knight is a work of art,
but it's lost on this caveman me. I just have
to tell you something really fast, which is that the
reason it left such an impression on me is not
the movie itself, but because I saw it with Michael Coleman,
(20:25):
my then boyfriend, and he cried during it. He sobbed.
Is it a movie?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
That's because you're that's because you're married to a real man? Okay,
the end of The Dark Knight, Just for those of
you may have forgotten the film, just skip ahead like
twenty five minutes if you haven't seen it. You don't
want to be spoiled, because I'm going to spend that
long pitching it. That's a joke. I'll be brief. At
the end, Harvey Dent two face, the hero of Gotham
(20:52):
has died and he's disgraced himself by turning into a madman,
and the police are going to find out and Finishoner
Gordon realized it's gonna be a catastrophe. The city of
Gotham is going to lose faith in its hero. And
then Batman agrees to take the fall, and he agrees
to basically allow himself to take the blame for all
(21:15):
of these horrific crimes that Harvey Dent has committed. And
Commissioner Gordon says, you can't do that. You're a hero,
and Batman says, I'm whatever Gotham needs me to be,
and then he runs. And Batman horribly horribly wounded at
this point, and there are cops that are chasing and
they release dogs, and dogs, rotten miler dogs are chasing
(21:38):
after a wounded Batman. And as he's hobbling, hobbling away
and these dogs are running after him, Commissioner Gordon explains
to his young son that Batman's just saved. He explains
that they have to hunt him because Batman can take it,
because he's not a hero. He's a silent guardian, a
watchful protector, a darkness. Oh and in that moment, Batman's
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on his back cycle and he zooms off, and then
the title of the film lands, the Dark Night, and
it's like one of the best endings to the movie ever.
It not only contains the title of the movie. In
the movie, it is the last line of the movie,
and boy, oh boy, it's a hammer blow to pretty
much everyone with a heart. So I'm not surprised at
(22:23):
all that Michael Coleman was moved by it.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I can't believe this year. I mean, Michael Phelps, you're
naming two like really sort of items with a global reach,
Michael Phelps, the Dark Knight. Like, if you're looking for
people with impact, look no further than the two things
you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I mean, the Dark Knight, Barack Obama, well, John Mac
these are.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
These are wide people with a wide far reach.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Beyonce, the people that went without intending to the people
that have come up in this podcast, this celebratory conversation
about two thousand and eight. Barack Obama, Batman, Michael Phelps,
Beyonce and David Letterman, Like, those vibes should be on
the Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I know they should.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Awesome American badass.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yes, Scott, that's that's the end of the movie. That
quote what you just said, because that's absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
So top that, Ellie. I dare you, what's what's item
number two on the countdown? I think your last one.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
It's my last one, but it's a personal one. So
it's not going to top the it's not going to
make the rush more mountain carving, but it is going
to make me happy to remember it. It was my
Upper west Side sublet now, Scott.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Oh, I love it Upper west Side sublat.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
So, Scott. Here's why I loved it so much.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
It was.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
It was the first apartment I had. Scott and I
lived together. So I don't want to I'm not saying
I didn't love going home to that apartment. Okay, Scott
and I lived with roommate us. We loved going home.
But this is what I want to say about this
special apartment. It was just me in the apartment. It
was a sublet from uh. The owner's name was Lauren Rott.
(24:14):
I hope I can say that.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Maybe she's like, you know what our lawyers will tell
us if you can't after the thing, I think to
ask for forgiveness, not permission.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
That's what I always say. And it's it's it's famatory.
It's not defamatory.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
No, it's cell.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Because I loved it so much. Her apartment. It was
my first apartment where I felt home and even though
it wasn't mine. It was full of her stuff. It
was a she had left a lot of stuff there.
But it felt like I had space to be be.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Myself and so to become the person you were born.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
If I if I wrote, Michelle, you take it right out.
It was the first time in my you'll see, I
was twenty eight in two thousand and eight, I felt
like I was uh an adult for the first time.
Now that might sound sad to everybody, and maybe even
it's a little bit embarrassing, but that was when I
felt like I had some sort of independence. Because it
(25:15):
also coincided with a time where I was booking work
and I felt motivated to accomplish more and to stick
keep at it. And so I really liked this apartment
because not only was it a symbol of my womanhood,
Oh what is she getting into? But it was also
(25:36):
don't worry, I just meant like as a becoming, but
it also I was blossoming, and so I felt it
was a delayed adolescence maybe, but that I remember because
what and if you had asked me out of the
Blue Alley, what what did you love about two thousand
and eight? Sure, Michael Phelps Barack Obama, Sasha fears Batman Batman.
(25:58):
But I've discovered this as I was, as I was
really really reflecting on two thousand and eight, I thought, oh,
two thousand and eight, that was the year, and so yeah,
so I I just remember that apartment and not so
much even it wasn't the apartment itself, it was just
it was sort of what it stood for. Because I
felt like, all right, this is I made some very
concrete decisions to take myself more seriously.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yeah, I mean we should have mentioned the context up top.
I think that two thousand and eight, because of this
day we were, that was sort of our prime, right,
like late prime, late twenty operating on all cylinders.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
That's what I said.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
We got we're youthful. Yep, we're full of youth, but
we've also got enough maturity to harness that youth.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Not long after downhill, just stay decline.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
We've been on my thirtieth birthday, so.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Oh everything, family, frailty, starting start eating dinner at six fifteen.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
I think it's a little sad. So you're exactly right, Scott,
because you're not making foolish decisions to stay up all
night out partying in the pubs. You're we lived in Britain,
Scott and I did for a while. We were always
out at the pubs. But but you're you're exactly right,
You're you're on that You're at the the.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
The Pinnacle. I think you're I remember.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
And you're you're at the Apex.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
The Apex. I think I remember that apartment Ellie and Jim.
I remember how you decorated it. There was one unusual
decoration that stuck with me all these years. It was
a picture of correct me if I'm wrong. It was
a beautiful lady and her family in a nice frame.
And one of the first times I visited that apartment,
(27:45):
I was like, oh, well, who is who is that?
Because I mean, well we knew we've known each other
long enough that that I recognize. I think you know
the members of your family, So it's like, who is
who is that? And do you do you remember this frame? Ellie?
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Yeah, it was. It was like the picture they sell
you at the store, right.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
M h it was was it? You were with no
shame whatsoever, and I'm obviously mocking you for this. You
were like, oh no, it's the it's the it's the picture.
Of the family that came in the frame and it
was hung on your wall, and I was like, why
are you like waiting for a picture to replace it?
(28:24):
And you were sincerely like, no, No, I just like
I like the frame and I like the picture. I mean, so.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
It's literally like red flags every alarm with this woman
has no soul, like me, like, what's wrong? I mean
that was me entering my woman. I guess placing me
like a family.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
I wish I had it was a vision of the
vision of what you want asition.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
I don't know. I so clearly remember it, and I'm
worry about this young woman me. I mean, why'd you say?
What happened to the frame?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yeah? What happened to the word that?
Speaker 1 (29:01):
If I had to guess, I still have a storage
unit Manhattan Mini Storage. I bet it's there somewhere in midtime.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
What I hope, what I hope is that eventually, Yeah,
that that that that sample picture was taken out, thrown away,
and replaced by a photo of yourself and your own family.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
My two young boys. You can keep hoping, Scott, because
I don't think I ever did that, all right, Scott?
That was number two?
Speaker 2 (29:30):
All right, Ellie, my last thing. My favorite thing about
two thousand and eight also a little personal. I think
that we're we can't help but see the world through
the lens of our own experience. My favorite thing about
two thousand and eight was a kitten, Scott, little baby kitten.
(29:52):
I maybe need some background. We got to rewind the clock.
A couple of years. I met a woman, fell in love.
Her name is Vanessa. We're currently married. I dated her
for one year, and right around our one year anniversary,
we decided to take the next step and we moved
in together. We moved into our own apartment together. And
another year passed and we were still in love, and
(30:15):
Vanessa was starting to get inklings about, well, what's the
next step? What's the next step? Right? Maybe a ring
on my finger? And instead, do you know what I did, Ellie,
oh oh? I got her a kitten. And it was
the cutest little kitten that you could possibly imagine. And
it was a kitten. It wasn't my cat, it wasn't
(30:36):
her cat. It was our cat. So it was like
a really nice It's like, all right, we've already moved
in together. Here's the next step. We're sharing a pet.
Another year past she's got those inklings, Ellie, she got inklings, right,
She's waiting, she's waiting for someone to pop the question.
And do you know what I did? I got her
(30:58):
another kitten.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Wait a minute, so what year is that? Which is
the birth? Is the kitten? Is the first kid? Two
thousand and eight?
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Kid number two is two thousand and eight? Oh yeah, well,
I think she was grateful for the second kitten, and
that kitten is with us today. His name is Donald.
All these years later, we love him to death. The problem, though,
of course, is that she well, while appreciating Donald the cat,
she was undisappointed. Well, she wasn't expecting another kittenap.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
She was maybe hoping for a different next step.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
She was hoping for, yes, an engagement ring. She was
asking for a proposal, and I was kicking the can.
So wise words. Any listeners out there considering getting engaged,
You can defer it with a pet, but that only
works once. It doesn't work two times.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Did you just say I'm sorry? What was the name
of the cat.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
The cat's name is Donald Donald.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
I didn't realize Donald.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Is still Yeah, Donald is still still around. He lives
with my mother. A little god got a little senile
in his old age meals all the time. I'm glad
that he lives with her and not us. We have
a new kitten, even cuter than Donald. But you know what,
we're not here to talk about that. We're here to
nostalgically remember the highs of two thousand and eight, and
(32:25):
one of my highs was getting this beautiful kitten, Donald
and then eventually getting engaged to my wife. That happened
a little little later that Captain.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
I can't remember when you got engaged.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
It was the year two thousand and nine.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
I love that you got her another kitten. I you
know what, just like it was my I took being
single and independent with a fake family to the next level.
You took your relationship with Vanessa and co ownership of
the kitten and building the eventual human family you would have,
or prepping for the eventual well human family you would have,
(33:01):
to the next level.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
And I think, well, that's the thing. See, we've had,
we have two kids now, it was only appropriate that
we would have two cats. That makes sense. So another moment,
you've convinced me, Ellie that I made the right decision
that I wasn't, you know, afraid of marriage being sensible.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Yes, I completely agree with me on that.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Well, there's so much to love about two thousand and eight, Ellie.
If you stick around with us, listeners, we're going to
play a special round of love It or Loathe It
with other items from two thousand and eight, and we're
going to have to decide if we love them or
if we loathe them. They're going to be a surprise
to us. Our producers are going to spring them on us.
So stick around and we're back. We're back for Born
(33:53):
to Love more Born to Love. Thanks, thanks for joining us, guys,
thanks for sticking around. I'm Scott Ecker. We're gonna play
a game called love It or loaths It? Ellie. How
does this game work?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
This game works like this. We're gonna love items at
each other. We don't know which is who, so we're
gonna always be surprised by the item of our partner
has lobbed at us. And by the way, after they
love that item at us, we're going to respond with
a love of that item or a loath of that
Let me be clear, there's no in between. Scott. You
can be like, yeah, I kind of like it, I
don't really love that it's love it or.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Loath it, no equivocating. All right, Ellie, do you want
to go first or should I?
Speaker 1 (34:32):
I'm gonna start with a whopper.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Of a lob to you, okay, Scott.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Love It two thousand and eight. Two thousand and eight
was what we talked about all episode long.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Loving Her, Loathe It, Katie Perry, love on Bashion Love Now.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
I gotta tell you I love Beyonce probably more, but
like it's tough, It's real tough. I remember I went
on a birthday a trip up to my friend's little
cabin in Massachusetts, and we played a playlist of one
for the for half the car right, and it was
It's hot and It's cold. I don't know, and that's enough.
(35:14):
But I love that song. And we listened to it.
I'm not exaggerating, probably thirty minutes straight until my friend,
who was driving and actually has better taste of music
than I do, literally whispered under his breath, let's turn
this off. Well, yeah, and I love Katie Perry. Another
thing I love about her. I think that this was
(35:36):
later in life, but she got married. So what was
that actor? The British guy Russell Russell Brand? And then
he caused him any scandal because like he did something
where she was sleeping and he woke her up and
he was like, hey, Katy, Hey, Katy, wake up. And
then he took a picture of her and then he
posted it and it was like, I don't know, kind
of an unflattering picture because she had just woken up
and then all these people were up in arms and oh,
(35:58):
you know, she doesn't look like she does with make
up on or it was so horrible for him to
post this picture. But I love her. I'm now trying
to connect those things. But just like seeing her normally
without making seeing not just without makeup, but just like,
I don't know, I'm just like, ooh, are you wrong. Yeah.
I was just like, oh, Katy Perry is the best.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Oh my, your love for her is huge.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Yeah, Ellie, Yeah, I've got one for you, picked by
the producers. It's another music one, Viva Lovida by Coldplay.
We all know that hit, that smash hit, Viva Lovida love. Well,
how does it go? Because as soon as I saw it,
I was like, Lovita, I.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Thought that's what you were going to say, and I
was prepared with an answer. But you're not talking about
that one. All I know is it's part of the
bump bum.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
I know that song also, also love it.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
I love that whole album. I don't, I don't necessarily
is that the name of the album.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
I think it's the album. I think it's a I
love it.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
It's yeah, And here's the thing, so I don't know,
like on an artistic level, if it's actually good. I love.
All I know is how it makes me feel, and
it makes me feel like I've been reborn. So I
love everything, love, love, love.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
You're living the life Viva loviva. Yeah, I think that's
what it means.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
I think it does too. But I did think you
were going to say the Ricky Martin song. But I
love that song love Okay, I mean, or that album.
I don't know what it is. I just I know
that it's all the same under the same umbrella. Scott
love it or loath it. You'll remember we were talking
about Michael Phelps earlier in swimming.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
I do remember that, Yeah, just moments ago.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Love it or love that? Cupping? Do you know what
that is?
Speaker 2 (37:49):
What is cupping?
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Swimmers do it? It is?
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Uh, it's like supposed I know what it is, and
they like it's like circles and freaks me out. Freaks
me out. My sister in law does that sometimes, and I,
you know, if it's for medicinal stuff, I mean, I
you know, everybody needs the therapy that they need, but
I I find it. I find it physically a little revolting.
(38:15):
How about you, Ellie? What do you wh Where do
you land on cupping?
Speaker 1 (38:18):
We've never done this before. Lobbed it back, but I
loathe it too.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Okay, good, we're on the same page. Yeah, it's weird, fantastic.
Let me give you another one, Ellie. Love it or
loathe it? Gossip Girl?
Speaker 1 (38:34):
You know what I feel.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
You got it?
Speaker 1 (38:38):
I know, I know, and I hate it. When I
don't hate it, but sometimes when our guests are like,
I'll follow the rules, loathe it.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Loathe it? All right, So you've never seen it. Here's
here's here's here's a little secret. I've never seen it either.
Loath loath gossip Girl, loath. You know what I was
in my prime in two thousand and eight, I was
old for Gossip Girl. And here's my right true opinion.
You guys are well aware of how old I am.
Gossip Girl poor Man's nine o two one. Oh, oh,
(39:06):
absolutely poor Man's uh o C the OC. You give
me some of the O C. I'll eat it right up,
gobble it up. Those rich teens getting into and having
sex with each other, they did it better. They did
it better when I was young. By the time I
(39:27):
was you know, my time was two thousand and eight
and Gossip Girls, rich teens having sex with each other
no longer interested. It passed its shelf life expired. Done
and also Scott.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
It took place in New York. The two shows you
cited nine O two one O obviously Beverly Hills and
the OC obviously Orange County. This one New York. And
we didn't. We weren't into it, all right.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
I was living on the mean streets.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Of New York A show to dramatize it.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
No, I didn't need some fancy rich teen who never
rides the way I mean. I was taking the train
every day. It's tough when we've not seen this stuff.
Maybe it's great that we have seen.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Honestly, I love it, love it or loathe it?
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Oh, yeah, okay, love it or loathe it? M Twilight,
Oh love story about vampires? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:31):
You love a vampires.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
It's you know everything I just said about Gossip Girl,
I'm now exposed as a liar because because it's like
Twilight is young teens having soapy sex with each other,
except one of them is a vampire, and I'm here
for it. Sign me up. I'm into it.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
I've never seen I've never seen it.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Well, you know what it's about. It's about a girl
who falls in love with a sexy vampire. Right, Yeah, yes,
that's what it's about. Seeing the movie, read the book.
I was on that train for sure.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Did you see the movie in two thousand and eight?
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Mmm, I don't know. I don't remember exactly when it
came out. I assume it came out in two thousand
and eight because it's on our list. I did see
the movie when it came out, and I had already
read the book. You give me any kind of dorky
world building stuff, yeah, I can't help myself get into it.
My daughter was watching the like new my Little Pony,
(41:27):
and I found myself being like, wait a minute, so
what are the rules of Equestria?
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Like?
Speaker 2 (41:32):
So what kinds of flavors of magic? Arthur? I'm a
sucker for it. So when May came out and it
was a young girl's romance with a vampire who's been
living in a coven for hundreds of years. I was like,
I think I'm interested in that.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Yeah, well of course you, of course you were.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
I guess this is a tradition, lobbing it right back
at you, Twilight, What do you think.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Well, I've never seen it, so I guess I loath it.
I mean, apparently it's like if I haven't seen something,
I automatically love it. I guess it's innocent, innocent until
for a reason, right, Yeah, nothing about it appeals to me.
I hate imagining. I hate fantastical, like fantasy.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
Science fiction, fantasy, all that kind.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
I don't like it. Why am I apologizing? That's who
I am. I don't like it. I give it to
me else I'll throw it back in your face. I'll
send it back to the kitchen.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
This is the last one, and I got a feeling.
I know exactly how you're going to react to it.
Put yourself back in two thousand and eight. You are
living in that studio apartment, and I delivered to you
a fresh, brand spanking new pair of UG boots. Do
you love them or do you load them?
Speaker 1 (42:43):
I love them. I love them. And here's the thing,
Scott that I want to tell you about ug boots,
because my mom got me a pair for Christmas way
before they were popular, and now they I mean, it's
twenty twenty three. Now they've gone through so many ups
and downs and cycles of popularity, and I don't even
know if they're cool anymore.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
I wear ugs still the same pair. Do you wear
ugs from two thousand and eight, which is sadder wearing
hugs that you got in two thousand and eight or
ugs that you purchased in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
I guess it's the ones you purchased, because what are
you doing it's twenty twenty three, I guess, But you remember.
I don't remember if in two thousand and eight they
were at the height of being cool, so I won't
remember this. All I know is I received a gift
of ugs from my mom before they were cool, before
they had gotten that labels of cool, before they'd been anointed,
and I thought, these are really like crazy looking and ugly,
(43:36):
and my mom like somehow knew, like she had her
finger on the pulse of cutting edge fashion. So when
they became popular, I already had a pair and I've
always remained I remained forever grateful to my mom for
boosting me to the next level of fashion.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
To this day.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Yeah, Ellie Kemper, the next level of fashion?
Speaker 2 (44:02):
What level do you think that is?
Speaker 1 (44:05):
Two?
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Like if she boosted you to the next level on
a scale, like if there were ten levels, where do
you think I fall on a scale of one to
ten fashion? Like an eight or nine?
Speaker 1 (44:17):
Ten is the most fashionable?
Speaker 2 (44:19):
That it was a joke, but I did it just
to see your reaction.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
My reaction was white eyed, jaw dropped.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
It was the cartoon jaw dropping.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Or it was it was McCain, the revelation that McCain
was on for it. No, this this uh yeah, no, no,
the next the next level is yeah, it boosted me
from one to two. Why are you making me say
it out loud? I'm not a fashionable person.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
No, you're pretty fashionable.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
No I'm not.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
But do you think ug did? Is it short for ugly?
Speaker 1 (44:50):
It's ugg?
Speaker 2 (44:52):
So I know it's ugg, but like where does it come?
Speaker 1 (44:54):
I don't know?
Speaker 2 (44:57):
But well, I'm asking you to guess. Do you think
that do you think that they were like damn, these
these are ugly?
Speaker 1 (45:03):
No?
Speaker 2 (45:03):
And change and.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Change because they're from Australia. I believe it's an Australia.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Look at.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
Thank you. So I don't think that. I don't think there.
I don't is ugly, I don't, I don't. I don't
know because I don't, I don't know if.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
That's put another shrimp on the bobby and wear these ugly.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
So maybe it did come from ugly ugly, sure for
ugly in Australian.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
I convinced you you did well.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
It was the final impression you did with the shrimps
on the barbie. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Yeah, it's not so much an impression, is just an accent.
That a masterful one. All right, Ellie, Well, I have
loved this trip down memory Lane, Memory Lane back to
two thousand and eight, one of the greats and Memberlely Lane,
let's take you back to one. Well, Ellie, I've loved
this trip down Memberley Lane, going down.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
What if you always said memory is Memberley and I
never corrected you?
Speaker 2 (46:07):
All right, let me try it again. Oh well that
was odd. You know what, I love, Delie. I love
this trip down Memberley Lane. The problem is because I'm
doing it purposely each time, but I can't stop from laughing.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
So I think my favorite memorily of you is that
swimming video to be perfectly.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Oh, I mean that I regret that memory.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
So I read the article on how to improve your
short term memory. You have to eat a lot more
vitamin I think it's vitamin A.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
I can't remember. Look. The thing that makes me worry
about the short term Memberley thing is that it is
that if you do the things for short term memberly,
does that hurt your long term.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Member le No, but in cats the song Memberly.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
It's my favorite Songmberly.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
All right, Scott, as always, thanks for.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
The memberlies, Thanks for listening to Born to Love. We'll
be back next week with brand new things that we love.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
We want to hear from you. Leave us a review
in Apple Podcasts and tell us what you love. We
might even ask one of our guests in an upcoming
love it or Load It.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
Born to Love is hosted and created by Ellie Kemper
and Scott Ecker.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
Our executive producer is Aaron Cofman. Our producers are Sheena
Ozaki and Zoe Danklab.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Born to Love is part of Will Ferrell's Big Money
Players Network in collaboration with iHeart Podcasts Special thanks to
Hans Sonny.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
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