CEO Tom Scharf & Sales Director Ryan Deegan of V Syndicate

V Syndicate specializes in creating high quality rolling trays, herb grinders, and stash jars that consistently push the envelope when it comes to creating new, exciting products for the cannabis industry. Originally invented the very first grinder card, and have continued to innovate with products such as the first hybrid rolling tray, and the first glass trays to ever be printed in full color.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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at Joe Grande fifty two and today on the show.
You guys, I'm excited about this Blue because I geeked

(01:10):
out before the show and I did something I always
kind of at everybody about I'm a dick behind the scenes.
People don't know. I'm kind of the radio asshole to everybody, like, hey,
don't talk to these guys, don't don't mention this, don't
boil the show, don't ruin the show before the show.
I know why, because there's so much experience in radio,
and don't do that. I geeked out on these products

(01:32):
I wanted because I never seek out. Yeah, and I
never did. This is what's funny, guys, I never geek out.
But you know when Tom is shorts Tom Scharf, he's
the CEO and owner of his V Syndicate and Ryan
Deagan is the sales director at B Syndicate. Now, what
is V Syndicate Blue, you might ask, Well, they specialize

(01:54):
in all things smoking accessories. You can check them out
at V syndicate dot com, which is V s y
in D I C A T E dot com. They
pride themselves and making high quality rolling trays, herb grinders,
stass jars. The team has consistently pushed the envelope when
it comes to creating new, exciting products for an ever

(02:15):
growing industry. Now. They started with the invention of the
very first grinder card. Why do right when I said that,
the grinder card? Why do I see them in the
back dancing at their office, just grinding each other, and
have continue to innovate the products such as the first
hybrid rolling tray and the first glass straight to every
be printed in full color. They even offer wholesale smoking

(02:37):
products for those looking to buy in bulk. Simply fill
out the contact form on their websites and the sales
team will get back to you in the right way.
And if they don't hit up Ryan de Goanna, say,
what the hell is your team doing? They're not hitting
me up, Ryan. The glass rolling trays are made from
tempered glass. These dope trays are shadow resistant and feature

(02:58):
high resolution designs the rolling excuse me. The metal rolling
trades are lightweight, durable, and feature the coolest rolling trades designs. Now,
peep this as I read all this online and prep this.
This is why I geeked out because I'm looking at
everything online, I'm going, Okay, this is a dope website.
All these things look cool. You can't see how heavy
they are. You can't see how big they are. They

(03:18):
you know, the little fucking grinder looks like it's could
be four ft big because it's so beautiful on their website.
And then I've seen it all here, and that's why
I geeked out, because I did. The investigative worked. When
you guys are coming, by the way, thank you for
coming on the show. We appreciate you guys. But this
stuff is some of the dopest accessories I've yet to see.

(03:41):
Because we see these all the time. That's just that
chance we see. We see it all the time. Who
we kidd and people, every brand that comes in or
brings their own trades, everybody gives us something. I have
fourteen trays at my house. They never really like to use.
These are almost It's true, It's true. We have all
over every house car These though, are almost ship that

(04:04):
I put in my office at home because they're so dope.
They're not your astras. You know, if you have almost
almost my you I said almost, because like you know,
I have my Kobe bryants, my shacks, my you know,
my my parents. I have a very very dope officer
at home that has high, high memorabilia. I would put
one of these on the walls. It's something because I

(04:24):
don't know which one. You know what you see how
I looked at some of them, so you know, tom
as as I as I gass, you do the thing
I want. And and mind you guys, I ain't gassing
these cats. They ain't breaking bread of that, they ain't
doing nothing. This is off GP because you guys have
done the work. Listen, I've met yeah, we just met,
and and and to be honest with you, like I've
seen these products in the field, and um, you know

(04:48):
I didn't dope though. Yeah, these guys products their products.
Yeah I've seen I've seen their product. Um, but you know,
meeting them now and and and and it wasn't these
exact things, but I've just seen that. I could look
at the logo of the syndicate and be like, oh,
I've seen that, you know, very good in the Yeah,
just being in the mix, you know. And and the
quality of what they've brought in here is is part

(05:12):
to anything. I mean, it's own think part I think
it's above part. It's because every company that comes in
brings some ship, right and and no disrespects. I said
that wrong. What I normally see is these little trades.
I see these these little the grinder that looks like
a little grinder. That's cool, but it's not like doesn't

(05:32):
have that weight, doesn't have that quality like the next
level stuff. That all being said, Tom, how the hell
did you come up with this company? What's the backstory?
How do you start it? Yeah? Sure, Um? So I
was born Redsday in Israel. UM left there in two
thousand seven. UM, I was here for a little bit
for about ten months in the US. You kind of

(05:54):
make everybody feel like ship right now because you've only
been here since two thousand seven seventy too, And I
don't have a company remotely questions, but keep showing off,
go ahead. I came ready man, right. It was like, damn,
what am I doing? Right? So I was here for
a little bit l A Vegas, just working on jobs

(06:16):
UM and then opened the business in Canada, um coating
a visa expired here and Canada is easier to get into,
you know, the more, just easier to immigrate to Canada,
UM and had a business there, just retail business, nothing
to do with cannabis, UM. And then it was going well,
I made some money, you save some money, and I
wanted to start to my own stuff like something. I

(06:37):
always wanted to innovate and invent, right like since I
was a little kid, and cannabis has been a passion
since I was not a little kid but an older kid. Um.
And back then I was dating someone, a girl from California,
and she came to help me with the business in
Canada and Alberta, and we were both you know, smoking
weed often, and uh we had no access is because

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she didn't bring any of hers from um from the
States and I'm from Israel with just like you know,
rolling with their hands with in your pr bro like
just like a half liter you know water bottle like
this one with a down stem and that's like our
bunk right for like a whole year. Yeah like like that. Yeah. Um.

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So anyways, she was so we didn't have a grinder,
and um, she was using a credit card to grind
bud on it. So she would take a bud and
like rub the bud against the you know, the paper
number the numbers and the numbers right, and it would
work every time, and I'm like, holy shit, this is
every time I would see it. I'm like, babe, this
is amazing. I would just get mesmerized looking at her

(07:42):
doing it, started doing myself. I'm like, married or didn't
you um know he left her and rememorize your card
number and then said later, right, yeah, started the business
from those card numbers. Yeah that was my credit card
now the record. Yeah, I'm sure she memorized it. But yeah,

(08:05):
we're married and we we got divorced. Yeah. Yeah, she
was the co founder of the syndicate. But anyway, so, um,
you know, we thought there was a commercial potential there
not on a you know, credit card, so we have
to improve it, and we thought, what if we make
it from a sturdy, stainless steel product, um, And then

(08:26):
we did and it actually worked. UM. So you know,
initially we just point some holes through a stainless steel
UM business card and it kind of worked. And then
I'm like, listen, this is not It's okay, it can
work better, and I want to be um patentable, right,
So we made another version with those grooves and valleys
that you can actually um, I mean grooves and peaks.

(08:50):
Um that actually walks similar to achieved greater without cutting
your fingers. We gave it a test and within a
month we did our first show, um hampcom two hemcun
here in l A and we debut the product. We
had one vcy inndicate design with the V being the
crimeer surface. Um it barely worked. It was very flimsy,

(09:10):
but you know it's somewhat worked with a proof of concept,
and we were the hit of the show. People like,
you know, swarm to our booth. We sold out, you
know the first day I think was a three day show. Yeah,
thanks man. Then we saw like originally my plan was,
let's just um make some of them and like go

(09:31):
on the road and like go to festivals and go
to trade like you know, just be two C shows
and just you know, safe life and sell them like
you know, um, just easy. But then we got so
many wholestal inquiries and customs and like every dispensary owner
because that was also b to see that show, So
every dispensary owner and I didn't even know there were
dispensaries here. I'm like, oh, you can actually sell we

(09:52):
legally with a car that was like a whole new
world for me. Um, and like, yeah, I have a
dispenser in figure roa, I have a dispenser in commerce,
and can you make him you know within my logom
Like I had no idea. I'm like, hey, yeah, yeah
we can, yeah, like put an order of course, we
can put together in order. Um and then yeah, I
gets deposit right now, please put a sticker on it? Yeah.

(10:12):
Um yeah. So that's that's how we started. And that
was the pivoting moment. And I told her like, look,
we have to do it, um wholesale. That's the way
to go, not telling them one of seeing like trade
shows and festivals. Uh man. Then we opened up to
the B two B World and the B two B
you know, um trade show, Um, you know, part of

(10:33):
the industry. And we've been grinding since and then Grinding
Sense and the Grinder. I've just seen the Pop Brothers
at Law Grinder. That is awesome. It's that heavy metal beautiful.
Who did that collaboration? How did that even come about?
Right there? I'll take that. How did you put that together? Ryan?
You just hit them up? And I mean I knew,

(10:53):
I knew Mark and Craig from like a few years back,
and it's always kind of been an idea to get
the script put on the back of the card, so
it's actually the card right here, but you got the
script on the go, but you can also shred on it.
So it's always just been like, you know, a general
idea that we had, um something that fits their scene.
You know, it definitely fits like this kind of scene.

(11:14):
Oh it's great, and it's a great it's a good
heavy piece. It feels awesome, it's beautiful. You know. I'll
tell you what, you know, when when I've seen those,
you know, how long has it been that you came
out with those? Um about ten years? Yeah, so I
mean years ago. I remember seeing them and I think
I remember the flimsy one, you know what I mean.
And I have used them in a pinch, you know.
I'm sitting there like, you know, just because it was

(11:36):
it's the thing to do. It was like, you know,
you know, it takes me back to doing lines, and
it makes me nervous to use it. I can't pull
out a card and Brian Weed, I'm just talking but
it's you know, but but it's being honest, said right, yeah,
he said, that's my problem either by the way, Uh

(11:58):
you know that. The thought though is that you know,
I've seen the products and and I and I remember
using them several times, and and that's like, you know
what a great invention. Just come out with something that's
new and then have the be the hit of a show.
And then now you have all these other products. So
let's talk about some of these. Yeah sure, so, UM
we've done the grinding card for about four years UM.

(12:19):
And then when I m acquired my ex max as
a enter into business, I decided to branch out. And
you know, naturally, like we do a lot of metal, um,
so what else we can do in metal that's easy
that we can do UM, and rolling trades were one
of them. And actually my business partner in Amsterdam, we

(12:40):
have a distribution center in Amsterdam. Shout out multii UM.
They're doing all of our exclusive distribution for the syndicate
all over Europe. UM doing a really great job. So
here's a worldwide pretty much. Yeah, yeah, we try UM.
And so so he's like, listen, there's this metal rolling praise.
I'm like those ten ones I've been seeing since forever.

(13:02):
It's like, yeah, I'm killing it with those like we
should get some we should make them for V syndicate,
Like yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean they've been so old,
there's no like nothing special about it exactly, but you know,
like you should look into it because I'm selling the
funk out of them. And finally I'm like, yeah, it's
makes some V syndicate ones. Let's do it from MULTI first,
see how they do in Europe. UM. So we did them,

(13:23):
and it's like, let's get with me on the order
next time. So we did. We brought a whatever like
a few thousand pieces, sold them immediately and like this
is a great product, like apparently, And then I looked
into it more and the only UM companies that we're
doing it are We're raw and maybe a handful of
other ones. And you know, Roy is a great company,

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but not everybody wants to have raw every everything. So
we came up with our own designs, you know, stuff
that we've done on on our grinders and just stuff
that we've been working on UM and then starting just
UM you know brandom nicely, UM go the extra step
with the packaging, so not just put it like you know,
you know, simple plastic bag, but just have a hanger
and like have a logo on it and just make

(14:06):
it a little bit more appealing for the shop, right,
just make it easier for the customer to uh um
to handle our product. UM and yeah, did very well
with that UM steel. It's one of a like a
bread and butter products. And then so from you know,
just the middle rolling trade and start expanding. Let's get
to that expansion, Tom, Not to cut you off, but
let's break real quick and talk about these other products

(14:27):
and talk about these great designs you have. It's Cannabis
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over to to Tom and and you know, talking about
these products, man, I mean continue and let's go dive
deeper into it, as Joe was saying before you, and
not only deeper, but sticking to these ash trays that
you guys put out there. Your course, Raw has a

(15:31):
big thing. They're rolling, rolling trace. I look at him
as a trays because I look, I have mine in
my backyard, cigar for a trace. That's what I used
them for. And I love them. Yeah, a lot of
people do, Yeah exactly, they'll roll joints and they'll they'll
use it as an ash tray too because there'll be
a ton of roaches in them and they don't even
really use it. These ones. So these ones though, just

(15:51):
to talk about it, I mean, first of all, when
I look at it, it doesn't it's not aluminum. What
is it? Explain exactly what this is because I feel
like there's depth to it. I feel like it's a
magic trick, you know what I mean. It's like, how
big is this thing? Really? Yeah? So that's one of
our latest releases that it's called the High Death tray. Um.
So it's accacia wood with a three deal in Tickler

(16:13):
on the inside and then temperate glass to cover it,
right so it doesn't get um, you know, wonky and
and scratch and all that, and you have a velvet
cover on the bottom too, so it's you know, it's yeah, um,
but basically it's you know, I saw this three deal
in Tickler and they got really good with their technology,
Like it it looks really like in depth right when

(16:34):
you look at it, So I feel like it looks
like it goes real deep. Yeah. How big is that?
Oh my god, it's only about an inch and a
half right, um. And so just the technology of the
how they put the plastic in the lent Tickler and
they change the angle. Um, not two boy with the
technical details. But when I saw it, I'm like, this
is cool, Like we should do that on a tray.
Like how treaty would that be? If you're rolling your

(16:55):
your butt on it and you have this three D thing, right,
you pass it around the table and like people look
at it. You're looking at it's literally becomes art, Like
these are damn near art pieces. It is it's a
collector you know what I mean, It's like a collector item.
I feel like all of the considered on my desk
and and and maybe roll on it, but I definitely
wouldn't ash in it. Oh yeah, I keep on like

(17:17):
that exactly should be on your well you can only
roll on those in my opinion too, maybe in my backyard,
stoners might do whatever they want to do, but I
I personally wouldn't. I would just use it to roll.
I mean, it's for all your party accessories. Let's just
face it. If that's at the party, it's for all
your party accessories. Ye know what I'm saying, Like, let's
just call it. What if I'm the next party and

(17:39):
those who know what partying means, then you know what
party means. How many years so I've been okay, so
that is I've been over twenty three years. But I
used to do more bumps in a little bit. And
I'm not talking like the mall you know, to go
on a matter of fact, I gotta take a ship
right now, just because speaking be right back. My point
is if I had one, at least we're not at

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parties like that, that would be a great party accessory
to have at the house. It's a great rolling tray.
Are chopping your anything, trade, chopping your butt, chopping whatever
you want to chop up. These are fucking phenomenal. So
how do you come up with these? Though? Because like,
even that one that Blue was looking at was like this, Um,

(18:21):
what does the person called like the night or worm reaper?
The what are you calling to wear these beakers masks? Okay,
but it looks like the grim reaper plague guy. I
mean it's like this deadly looking, cool, crazy, gothy looking.
And then you have this like beautiful elephant with all

(18:44):
these beautiful borderline African Indian color design, Like where does
this come from? And where is this? What is this
inspired by? What is this called? If? In? Yeah, yes,
that's what I mean. Dog got geeked out on these
when I walked in here. This is why geeked out
on them, Like you just didn't let me finish talking

(19:04):
because you geeked out on I like that you geeked
out on it, because I did exactly that. But let's
go back to this elephant trade and explain this one.
Yeah for sure, So, um, you know I want to
we want to appeal to as many. Um. You know,
different customers, different background types, right, So like some people
really be into UM the more you know, um pot

(19:27):
heavy designs and more cannabis. They want to see the
four twenty, They want to see the cannabis flower on
the design. Some people want to make it a little
bit more teamed, right, So like they don't they're not
necessarily so open about their cannabis use, Like they're in
a state that's not really very you know, friendly for that.
So we wanted to have some pieces that are more
artsy and less like big cannabis, you know, related the

(19:49):
art um by in generalman. Like, if we see a
design that we like, we brand storm, we show it
to the team, we take votes on it, UM and
it's all our original designs. So all of them we
developed in house. We have a team of designers that
have been with me for a while UM. And you know,
we're starting to do some collaborations now with some existing artists. UM.

(20:11):
We have a tattoo line coming out to collaboration with
the two artists dropping two like who anybody big or
anybody out here in Kelly, UM, not nobody out here
in Calli. UM. We're still closing some deals. But man,
these guys are hard to do. They're worse in storers.
Sometimes we should hook up with like Mr Cartoon you
know who he is? Oh, yeah, you know him. I've
talked to him, talked to him a while. Wouldn't work

(20:32):
out with him, huh not really? He's expensive, I don't
think so. It's the like kind of a short especial, right, both. Yeah,
we've been seeing each other in show since man twenty
twelve or so. He just didn't talk to him. He
didn't want to do it. He's the man. No, I
just like, you know, back then he didn't really make
sense for the type of art. But maybe now it's
a good time to revisit it. So I'd love to, like,

(20:53):
you know, connect with him again. He's done all the
big artists. Okay, so these are the amazing ash tras,
and folks, when I say amazing trays talk about I mean,
we're still stuck on ash trays, which is crazy. But
what about that lasting trades? Sorry, rolling trades? And it's
an astray for him because he again he smokes the
only thing he smokes his cigars. But you know this

(21:14):
is a nice astray too though. Look at this quality astra.
So but this this isn't that's an actual astray. They
all could be used as as trays. They all could
be used as rolling trades. They all could be users.
Ar't work. You can call it whatever you want, folks.
How about this. You go to vist dot com and
you tell me what it's called and call me up
at eight h because my book they're beautiful. I want

(21:36):
this little elephant, the big elephant. I like them all.
Talk about that magician over there at the end. What
is that? It's like, I feel like I'm stone looking
at that one. Yeah. So this one is called the
High Voltage. So, oh, great, way to go, Ryan. What
everything else? Yeah, Ryan's already messing things up. Huh Does
he do that all the time? Yeah, a little bit,
as long as he's selling whatever he needs. Yeah, Ryan

(21:59):
is the main is killing it. So what is this one?
This one's called the High Voltage. It's inspired by Nicolas
Nicola tesla Um, you know, with obviously with cannabis, right,
So he's electrifying a cannabis nug. So he's electrifying a
cannabis nuggets. It's electrifying to look at it looks like
it's to what's that called when it does that little thing?

(22:20):
What's it called when you three d effects? So like
when you move it his hand, the buds floating and moving.
I mean, this thing is so crazy. You take it
off for the rolling tray, and then you can leave
you and put your nug in here, you blunt wraps whatever.
Then and then you once you roll it up and
you're done, you put this on top and then it

(22:41):
flies away. And it doesn't fly away, for it falls
a lot of times. It'll fall in. It won't just
fly everywhere. You know, these are okay, we have amazing
rolling trays. What else do we have here? But here's
the thing. Let me let me just say this, Like again,
I see a lot of and I don't want to
call it trash, but as I touch and feel this,
there's a lot of trash out there. So how is
your pricing compared to you know, some of the little

(23:04):
cheap the tsh with quality here? It's obviously it has
to be higher, but but it's it's probably worth it.
So what kind of like pricing do you guys have
compared to those guys? Yeah, definitely, UM, so it's comparable.
Um and even often UM cheaper than brands. Obviously we
can compete with just like knockoffs, non branded stuff that
con directly from China. But something like this, um, the

(23:27):
tray alone is about ten bucks retail, right bucks retail
with the league, I think it's fifteen or twenty fifteen,
So I think it's pretty fair for the whole setup.
I think that's unbelievable to be honestly, I'm expecting in
my head that's about, you know, forty bucks. Yeah, this
one right here, what does this one run? This one
is forty bucks, so we have a more bouche line.

(23:49):
That's that's yeah, that's right there. That's a player in
a smoke shop. I could see that. It has the
velvet on the back exactly. You're hitting for fifty bucks
at a smoke shop all day. With that the beautiful wood,
that's dark wood. You're like a cocoa. Would it looks
like pitt kind of just you know on the outside,

(24:11):
smooth you little cocoi. Yeah, I mean, good looking brother
over there. And then it just has a good look
to it. So in the glass, that's what I'm saying,
it looks like sixty bucks. Yeah, it feels like and
you want Yeah, we want to work on volume two,
and you want to make it accessible, right. Um, if
we have something that's really unique, like a limited drawn,
like a collaboration with a big artist, yeah, we'll put

(24:33):
the price up there. But our bread and butter stuff, man,
I want people to have them. I want the world
to get out there. I want people to have more
v sing the products, he syndicate. Go look at the
website or something. Wait before before we do anything, I
just want to give you an idea and and you know,
we could work on it together. You could take it
over care. Okay, So like this, I see this right,
and if you're looking at it's a beautiful product. Okay,

(24:54):
what's it called on on on your site? The high
depths the high desk. So if you check out the
high desk, imagine like a little uh section here where
it's a little thicker here, and it has like a
roll of like a type plastic that you could just
and then clip it here and then just keeps everything
tight on the top so it doesn't and it locks
into place so it doesn't even fall off. There's no way.

(25:16):
It just stays in there no matter what. Role. Maybe
a little deeper, a little deeper. But I like our
idea because yes, a spindle roll almost like a garage door,
a garage door that goes here and clips. Hey, you know,
I'm an inventor. But but the thing about that is it, No,

(25:39):
I've never seen that, you know what I mean. And
I'm not saying that that I've seen that. I have
seen this one, but designs, but even a quality one
like that that just has a little like a little
lip they just and then clip and a door like
a window screen. Now, the problem would be that when
it comes back, it takes all the the residue into

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the thing with you. So you'd have to have something,
you know, if it's deep enough to hit, you have
to have a compartment for the door to fold into.
So usually with plastic will be easier to do something
like that because you can really mold it to perfection.
With wood, it's a little bit more challenge, and not
with the wood, probably with the with the plastic. Yeah,
but it'd be a good idea. Yeah, just something new,
you know. So Tom, tell me about Tom? What about

(26:24):
these said? It had? Uh? Yeah, what it happened? This
right here that you have the what is it called
um that's called a smart stash. So that's one of
our latest UM releases. So it's a multipole. This is
same thing. You know. That's the favorite product right there,
right here. Yeah, that's that's I think that's our best seller.

(26:46):
I would definitely these two. So you just put your
I mean, this is amazing looking. Why is it so? Yeah?
So it's electroplated UM jar so on the inside gets
this nice kind of shine to it, right hasn't Definitely
you don't even know how deep it is. It looks
like as like you know, two feet in there. It's
like only the size of your hand. Yeah, So you
have the I think this is the half ounce. Yeah,

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it's the half found. This is the core ounce right here. UM.
And then if you look at the lid, if you
put back the lid UM on the top, you have
a grinder. And this is the non stick version UM.
And lately we started doing O our grinder cards nonstick
with a nonstick tephlone like coating UM. So you grind
your butty into it, you remove that magnetic there you go,

(27:29):
UM and then inside you have a little UM store
dry through a little bowl and you can just handle it.
Now if you don't want to go through that. You
can just there's a little cut out here in the metal.
You can just funnel it into your papers or into
your bowl right away. And then on the inside you're
gonna like that. You have a little compartment for a
humidity pack also held with the magnetic plate. And that's

(27:49):
so crucial, dude. If it just sits in your room
or whatever, sometimes you know, the nuggs will get dried
out and then it sels tight, air tight. There's like
a little air tight selting here. It's like you got
just product that all bullshit aside is the best product
we've seen. It is so far. And I'm not just
saying that because you're here and not because I want
to I would say or whatever. Yeah, And I like

(28:12):
crushing people to be honest with you, because like I'll
just say that's how I feel. He will I look
at you like that's how I feel. This is ship.
Oh yeah, I just know, you know, if it's if
it's good, it's good. If it's not, like, oh, that's cool,
I'm sure it has a good market for it for
those who don't like like ship. This market is for
quality ship right here is like you're a smoker. You're

(28:36):
a party, your and you want to have the accessories
that are right for the room. This is like this
right here is an accessory that I wanted my house. Yeah,
I want I want to, I want the whole thing to.
I want to like that, and I want to. I'm
not a natural. I want to. I want all those things.
I need them all. But it's just funny though, because

(28:58):
even these smaller ones, they're so designed so well, you
just feel like, oh my goodness, how great are these? So?
How many products altogether do you guys have, because I'm
looking on line on the website, wanted to three, four, five?
How how many products together? So product lines? I think
we have around eight to ten right now, eight to
ten and each product line has between ten and twenty designs. Yea,

(29:23):
even that's what I mean. There's so many and there's
so many beautiful ones for when you come the seiler
we're gonna call it. What else do you guys have plans?
And you guys are moving? Yeah, the blue ceilers the
cannabis talk one on one ceiler. That was a mean thing.
Not the company. I'm trying to jump in on it.
I got a percentage on the Tom, What else do

(29:48):
we got going on for you guys? What are the
plans and the projects that you guys got moving forward.
I'll show the other product that we just launched. Maybe Ryan,
you want to show Yeah, yeah, definitely. Um. So we
just came out with the Syndicates two point now. So
this one, this has been killing it since we launched it.
But it's got a rolling trade built into the top, smellproof,
waterproof container on the inside, so you feel like your lighters, papes, joints,

(30:09):
whatever you want to throw in here. There's videos on
Instagram too, what's your guys Instagram? Just v syndicate? Okay, yeah,
all one word, hand that down. Let's take a look
at this. Yeah definitely, um, but check out the Instagram.
It's got a vase where he just dumped that in there.
It's got all kinds of stuff in it, none of
it gets wet. Super cool. It's about what five inches
long by about two inches wide and wide like your

(30:29):
old school iPhone. Yeah inch and a half in your pocket,
you know, I mean, it's it's it's but you just
said some key things smellproof, waterproof, and waterproof. So now
listen this and not only that, has the old school
feel of what I remember putting some weed in back

(30:50):
in the day. You know what I mean. I can
like this, but it wasn't so proof of everything. Yeah
you know, I mean it didn't. No, no, no, I'm
talking three or five years ago having some little bullshit
like this. But this right here at the top, well,
it didn't have it. It didn't have the and they
were they were legit like this. You couldn't. You didn't
have a roller on top because not only is it

(31:10):
your roller after you get down rolling your joint, you
set it down and it's your ash tray. Then after
you get done, you dip it, wipe it cool. Now
you got a clean rollers rolling thinking it's everything in one.
This is a great product right here as well. I
mean you sit down, you know you're dashing, You set
it down, you put you put your joint in there.
I wouldn't. I wouldn't ash on it. You know what
I'm saying. But I would. I'm an asshole. No, I
I just want anything outside because I like to act

(31:35):
like I'm an ashtray and I like to ash and
something and then I throw it out. Yeah he likes it. No,
I think that's why. You know, rolling trays are so
popular because people use them as ashtrays so much that
they just have to keep buying new ones, you know,
which is great for you. You're like, yes, by another one,
by your rolling one, and then by your ashtray one,
and none of that. This is a four twenty design,

(31:56):
very cool, very eclectic. It's your stoner friendly look field models.
There are going to be other ones that are designed
like the design. I mean, this is beautiful, don't get
me wrong, but if you're story like, the other ones
to me are more arts Yeah, yeah, they all see
an I or whatever here. This thing is that's art sets.

(32:18):
It's well and it kind of reminds me of where
you're from. Like this has that field Middle East South
feel culture, you know what I mean, the eye that's
always watching, it's just it's deep. That one to me
is a deep feel. Yeah I love that one. Yeah,
that's great. So and the other designs, and we have
about a dozen designs in totally SO are killing it.
We tried to move away from like the four twenty stuff. Also,

(32:40):
like this design. Man has been knocked off so much
so trying to face it out. But you have to
have your four twenty like staple, you know designs especially
answer them like they that's the best sellers to answer
them the four twenties. Oh, they're all in the hype
you have. Yeah, you go to answer them. You got
you have to have one whatever, you'll supply if they
want to talk about how many people with the company? Um,

(33:02):
right now? Seventeen? It started off with you and your
ex wife, Yeah, bought her out, and then one or
two four people and now twenty of you guys, mostly
about se I see it on the website, which was
dope that you got a picture of everybody. That's why
I knew who who was when you guys walked in,
which is nice to do that. And I love seeing that,
and I like the diversity of the company. What's this? Yeah, exactly,

(33:24):
you guys have everybody in there. I've seen eight women black,
I've seen some brothers working up in there. But good,
it's a good field. It's it's you know, southern California.
Get a little bit of everybody. Is that where you
guys office? Is that in Southern California twenty minutes away?
That's just dope. But I didn't know they were in
Long Beach until you guys are putting out this product
right here, so you guys manufacturing here in it's close

(33:45):
to the ports, so obviously comes in from the port,
right yeah, right, yeah, we ship mostly overseas. UM, some
stuff in here, but mostly where are you? I mean,
where do you put dominantly? Get it from? Um? China? China?
It's great problem. Why don't you go Israel? You sell out?

(34:06):
I tried to buy Pride from Israel. They like, yeah,
we're gonna ship it dirty from China. But we do,
we do have an Israeli based product. Um. That's um.
We're going to drop an mg bis Con discussion before.
I can't tell too much about it because we will
do a whole show on that. I mean that Joe,

(34:27):
you mentioned it, but you didn't tell you what it is.
Due I have to come inside here and I'll share
it with you. I'm not going to break the story,
but I mean it's got its own wheels. It's a
whole show on itself. I'll tell you what like just
like in one sentence. If you like this, Joe, then
this is going to be that on steroids with technology application. Yes.
So that's that's why I can say that every every
single person that is in the that that smokes cannabis

(34:50):
needs to have one. And and if you don't, you're
you're just selling yourself out. In my opinions, Ready for
this and that hit hard. You ready for what I
think hard? Everybody who smokes cannabis should have one of
those what is this called? Again? This one? You should
have a soul stash because it can keep your stash moist.
It has a fucking humidifier in it, Joe. Everyone does,

(35:12):
but they just don't have a dope on like this
because again the humidifier insane. You got one of those?
You got something like that? No, not this one. You
know you don't have the jar, but stop at home? Yes,
of course he does. You have a jar like this
at home where you save stuff? Of course you do, right,
But is it is dope? Does have a humidifier on it? No?
Does you have a grinder on it? Yeah? Just throw

(35:35):
his bags in it? Yeah, that's my point. Everybody has that,
and I know they have. Everyone had that, but nobody
had that this. Yeah product, This is some player ship.
This is this is what I mean. You're high end,
You're you go to a higher end smoke shop because
a lot of smoke shops are probably afraid to carry
this because they don't have the clientele for it, and
some of them do. Some of them strictly have the

(35:55):
clientele for it. Well, if you're a smoker and want
to smoke your weed, that's feels and taste, you know more.
I mean, if you're buying good weed, you should have
and keep it like this. Yeah, I look at it.
What's the number one seller from v syndicate, Ryan say,
it's the High DEFs. It's definitely the smart stas jars

(36:16):
right now. And honestly, our grinders are grinders. Kill those
those grinders. Yeah, so all of our grinders kill it.
We have, um, we have these grinders that come in
a bunch of different colors. We have like I think
the three sixties over it or you know, it's right here,
this one right up here that's like printed all the
way around. Uh. And then we have our ceramic code
which is all nonstick. So we picked up in the
grinder game a little bit late, but we just changed

(36:38):
it up by you know, just innovating on the sign.
And yeah, they're great designs, great feel. I mean a
lot of them have good feels too. But your guys
designs and what takes it over tom Bro, And to me,
that's the difference between V Syndicate and other companies that
have just a normal looking one. And let me ask you, Ryan,
how did you get involved with this company? How did
you become the sales director? I? Um, so, I used

(36:59):
to actually be an E M T for a long time.
I was going for medical and doing all that, and
then I just kind of, you know, with with with California,
with how E M S is treated, they need to
get paid more. Just put it that way, and um,
you know, I kind of lucked out and found this guy. Honestly,
really yeah, yeah, just look did you find time out Grinder? Honestly?
I found it on a Craigslist post. Okay, I thought

(37:21):
grinder dot com with all this grinder, we're both grinder
and I uh yeah. Joe is pretty good about that.
He's got a profile, he's got his profile. If you
see me my shirt off, so don't mind the sho
from a party days. Yeah story, he did have those. Oh,
I had a lot of pictures of those like that.

(37:43):
Who knows, there probably is something with me up there
be cat fished on exactly. He literally found him like
stop being an E M T and get me. Yeah, yeah,
actually I took I took his call after like an
ambulance call. Yeah. And then uh, right after that, I
think the first weeks I was still working and doing
sales while I was on the rig and then completely

(38:06):
signed up. And I've been here like I'm out, I'm out,
let's go full speed, let's go. I think. I mean, look,
you know, with with knowing first of all, the product
line is it's it's it's quality. Okay. Second though, with
what I know about what's gonna be coming from these guys,
you know you picked a good choice, man, Ryan, because
this guy, he's obviously innovation, innovative, and and um, you know,

(38:27):
I see a future with the products. These are great
products that they're gonna last. But what he's told me,
and I know, and it's coming up, but I want
to talk about it right this second, but because I don't,
you know, he's not ready to. But as soon as
they launched this new product line, it's gonna blow. It's
gonna blow. I mean it's gonna blow. And I will
tell you it's like a girl saying, hey, I want

(38:49):
to go. I threw I threw you know, four or
five little questions out there like is he gonna be
able to do this and that? And his answers for
him were even better than I would with backed it
to at least half. He had even better. You know,
we need to go to break. It's Cannabis Talk one
on one. I need to find out what it is.
We'll be right back after this. Take a hit, get lit,

(39:17):
sit back and enjoy Cannabis Talk one on one with
Blue Joe Grande and the Pop Brothers at Law. We
are the number one source for everything cannabis and this
segment right here is brought to you by CALLI Effects.
Feel the Effects guys, and check this out. This is
our favorite part of the show. It's called the high five.
I hope you boys are ready to answer these questions

(39:38):
and answer honestly because I don't think cannabis was legal
in Israel, So it's gonna be funny if it was
a long time ago from Mr Tom over here, if
he were smoking. So bottom line, you guys, as you know,
and I just gotta say on air, I can't wait
to do a collaboration with you guys because I would

(39:59):
love to see employ is a cannabis talk one. Oh
want anything with the help of your guys design, because
everything you guys do, in my opinion so far from
what I see, is so dope that I would love
to associate our blue Blue seal on top of you.
We just putting our logo incorporated something that we can
help push out for you guys. If there is something.

(40:20):
If there's something there, let us know. But the Joe
Trade Trade Combination, Well, here's the thing. I smoke cigars.
I gotta show you guys my logo, my Joe Grande
logo will come up on the TV behind you. I
do smoke cigars all day. Are you the are you
the the only owner? Okay, So so we can pertain
on the Blue Seal. Yeah, and then I'll pay for
part of the container like I'll pull it in. You know,

(40:43):
I'm not afraid. I'm not afraid. So now it's time
for the high five with Tom the CEO and owner
of v SA Ndicate and Ryan Deagan, the sales director
at We're gonna answer these questions starting with the CEO Tom.
Then of course Ryan, you'll answer the same question right
after him. Nothing will change, but maybe the answer question

(41:03):
number one, how old you the first time you smoked cannabis?
And where did you get it from? I was seventeen,
guy from my body, good friend of mine. They used
to grow statue of limitation, Hasta stat limitation um fire homegrown.
I don't know how we got it so in Israel,
in Israel and man, the first three times I didn't

(41:24):
get high, and I took bond grips like one off
to the other, and like the last time it was
like give me three balls, and finally I got high,
and yeah, that was I'll never forget that. Always a
good time. What's the crime for smoking cannabis in Israel?
What is the penalty? They're getting more way more loose
on it now. Um. I think now it's like a misdemeanor.

(41:45):
You have to pay a fine up to a certain
like you know amount, So I think up to whatever
five grams. Back in the day that when you were
a kid, was it like fucking arm chopped up or
something crazy? You know, it's it's not like rightio, you know,
it's it's eisily democracy. It's ready like you you'll get um,
you know if you just personally use um. We got
cuts from growing it, so we got like, but two

(42:07):
are minors, so we just got like what do you
call it, you know, just a write up and then
after you become a teen, if you're good, then it
goes off your record. Let's say, like for personal use,
you can get probably like if it's like reoccurring um violation,
maybe a couple of months in jail or something. Depends
on mostly paying fines. They funk with your driver license though, Yeah,

(42:29):
they really go after that. Insurance go higher and everything else. Yeah,
getting high makes it all go high? What about you? Ryan?
All Right? I was fifteen and I was at a
festival in in Seattle and it was during the Offspring concert.
I bought the weed from a Rostafari. Intent didn't have

(42:51):
any weed. They were just selling a bunch of like
you know, like Roster theme stuff and all that. You
got any weed in here? Yeah? Pretty much. My buddy
Ronnie like walked up, He's like, hey, like we need
get a sack, and they gave us, like, you know,
like a dub sack for forty bucks. You know. I
remember it was my first time like you know, of
course smoking, and uh I got so high that I
like thought that I was never gonna be not high again.

(43:13):
Like I was like, I thought, I'm not I'm not
gonna get am I gonna get stuck? When I was
just like, what is this? You know that from now? Well,
I'm from Pomona, but I lived in Seattle for a
long time, came back here and been back here for
about like nine years now. So yeah, but that was yeah,
that was That was the first time. And then I
had a really awkward ride home with my buddy's stepdad.

(43:34):
At the time, it totally knew we were all big um.
But yeah, yeah, that was it. That's a good time
right there. Question number two of the High five, brought
to you by Planet thirteen. What is your favorite way
to use cannabis? Tom Um, I don't really. I don't
think you like to smoke and go out and be social. Honestly, Um,

(43:56):
I liked the good creative so I sit at home,
I think about ideas. Um, maybe what's a funny movie
something like that. But a bong joint you mean like that,
okay joint? For sure, it used to be bongs exclusively,
but then I know, man, don't know that Dawn anymore.
So joints, straight up joints. I'm a straight up joint
guy too. I like a little pinner and you I'm

(44:19):
the same man. It used to be bonds a lot,
but but it's it's strictly joints now. Definitely. I love
the smell, the smell of weed though. For me, Like
I said, I I've done blunts, I've done bongs, I've
done everything, but I feel like just you get the
best taste from just a straight joint, Dude. I mean
it's just and and sometimes a bong, you know. Don't

(44:39):
get me wrong, There's there's times where you hit that
right bong. You have everything fresh first thick glass, solid,
heavy piece. Question number three of the High five Craziest Place,
Tom and Ryan, you guys ever used cannabis? Um? You think? Man?
You think on this one? In Turkey? Um? Yeah? So

(45:08):
yeah he's over there Turkey. I was in Uh you
from Turkey? From Turkey or you just smoked? Get on
the micro quick grab grab that Micael, What is it? So?
I have a crazy story about cannabis. Also in Turkey,
I was staying in a hostel. I was biking around Turkey,
actually on my bicycle. I was covering it. So we

(45:30):
found cannabis on we smoked on Glatta Tower at the
top at the nighttime, we just climbed up the fence
and we smoked at the top and in midnight. Yeah. Crazy, Yeah,
So I had some. I was in Amsterdam when I
was eighteen, and I just had to get some hash
back home because it was so fire, right, So we

(45:52):
got some Afghan hash. I bought some put in a
shampoo bottle, Celia, it's got to Israel and it was
so good. Um, and I still had left had some
and left. Uh. It was like right before I was um,
you know, joined the army, and so I had to
go through it right because in the Army and get
you know, your in tests and all that. So and
then we had me and my buddy had a vacation
in Turkey, and I'm like, you probably can't find in Turkey,

(46:14):
so we have to bring our own. So I put
them in the bottom of the coffee, like this instant coffee.
Um jar brought it to Turkey. Um. And that was
a great decision because we didn't get caught and there
was nothing to do there, like that was off season,
So we just smoked this Afgan hash like lifesaver. But
probably not the best decision in federal federal. Oh that's

(46:38):
always crazy out of the country. It's one way back
in the States and start packing it in with stuff
like that. What about you. Oh man, I'm not going
to mention the airline or anything, but a plane one time,
that's probably yeah. Like in like in the no that

(46:58):
was a joint. I was like a team was totally like,
oh yeah, for sure, everybody's vaping on the planes now, yeah,
everyone really smoking joints. Yeah, joint are the crazy guys.
Those are somebody joining here. We were when we did
a tour. We were on tour with Bump Doesn't Harmony

(47:20):
and a bunch of other groups and stuff, and we
were traveling to Australia on that tour and one of
the guys in My My My band is like, and
and it's a fourteen hour flight, so I mean, dude,
you're on a plane, dude, and you're literally walking laps
like because you're so tired, and then everybody falls asleep,
and then all of a sudden, I see him getting up,
and I'm like, all right, you know, I felt him

(47:41):
getting up whatever, And we have you know, this whole
little like your own seats pretty much that roll back
and recline. But he's a big guy, so he's moving
around and then all of a sudden he comes back
and sits down the whole plane. Dude, the whole plane.
You could totally smell. He just smoked the ball. And
I'm like, I just looked over and me goes, do
you think anybody will know? And I like, bro, the
whole fucking planes? What are you talking about? Do I

(48:04):
think anybody will know? And he's like, I'm just shouna,
pretend we want to sleep, Go to sleep, Go to sleep.
And I'm like, dude, you stupid, the plane crazy. You
can't really spoke real joints. And it was all he
took us a little rip and I'm like, yeah, did
I tell you anything? Oh? They well, they said, you know,
we want to remind you this is a federal plane
and that no one could be smoking, and this and
that and and so they made it. And now, but

(48:25):
I'm pretty sure that the that the stewardess and all
them were sleeping or maybe there was some awake. I'm
sure they were, but they were you know, they didn't
catch it. So you know, we we landed and we
made it okay, but it definitely blew the whole plane out, dude,
even and everybody knew it was us. I mean we
were with all the rappers and all the different you know,
everybody knew who did it. Those guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

(48:46):
Well that's on the planet. The last plane, someone tried
to pin us member and it was the lady next
to us and some lady that looked like you probably
didn't have no weed on her, and Blue and I.
They walked up just going, hey, he got the lady
one of the latest reckon. Hey yeah, cannabis talking on. Yeah,
I figured it was you guys because I smell the green.
I'm like, we don't even know we're on us. We're

(49:07):
barely on the Vegas and we're like doing what we like.
We get we all the way to we want in Vegas.
She walks away, and the ladies sitting next to me
going oh that was me, yeah lady, and sitting next
to she's like, that's me. She's like, you guys can
smell like we could all smell it and everybody, but
because we're from Cannabis talking one the stewardess, she's like,
I recognize you guys from your show. And she's like
She's like, you know you, I thought that you guys
have to smell too. I knew it was you guys.

(49:28):
I figured it was your weed. I don't smoke. Probably,
Question number four of the high five with a V
syndicate Tom and Ryan. What is your go to munchie
after you get high? It has to be chocolate? So
Bill dark dark? Now, I try to keep it healthy.

(49:49):
I like milk chocolate better. But because they had a
lot of it, right, so chocolate chip, cookies, ice cream.
But you have to have still though, do calories? Man,
I'm gaining weight just sitting here. Ryan, what about you
your munch? Uh? Man, I'm still a kid about it.
But uh, I'd say it's hot cheetos. It's definitely a

(50:09):
hot cheeto things still not like chronically, but if, like,
you know, if I've definitely smoked a lot, it's gotta
be it's gotta be the hotches just fling something like
why am I ordering hot cheetos? Right? Oh? Yeah, I'm
just like when you're like like a seven eleven and
just like grabbing something really get gas and you're high
and you're like waiting, why did I just grab those
hot cheetos? Exactly? Why I do that. Your kids have
no are you gonna try hot cheety? Uh? Yeah they have? Yeah,

(50:33):
just checking just guy this, well he deprived his kids,
but yeah, yeah, I make them protein bars. That's great.
Protein bars are like. And then there were the whole
food ones that they weren't your normal, just little spicy cheeks.
My kids don't get that. That's why I'm like, I'm
always going's whole food. When I see him, I'm like, here,
you give him a twenty dollar bill and go tell
your dad to go buy you guys ice cream. And

(50:54):
he's just like, kids don't get that. Ship. I'm wheeling
them to be athletes. That's how you question number five
with the High five with Tom and Ryan from v Syndicate.
Go check them out on line at vindicate dot com.
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(51:16):
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your sis. Drop it twenty of my wallet question number five,
If you could smoke cannabis with anyone dead or alive,
who would it be? And why? Oh man, Ryan, let

(51:39):
you go first, because I want to think, look at
that past alight, I think it had to be Hunter
s Thompson. Hunter s. Thompson explained that when I heard
the name, But and I see who is that? Hunter s.
Thompson is h He's basically the guy that wrote like
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, the Johnny Depp movie
like your Designed them. Huh, that's he's he's a big

(52:01):
fan too. Yeah, yeah, but um, but yeah, he wrote
a whole bunch of stuff. He did like a you know,
huge book with like The Hell's Angels and was like
an undercover writer for The Hell's Angels and stuff like that.
But this guy's schedule for like a day to day
routine for what he does is insane. Just look it
up on Google. He has He has like a whole
sheet of just like what he does. Oh man, our

(52:24):
own Daniels over here going, Oh no, he's a writer.
I know he knew exactly who he was journalists. That's
so funny that you knew who he was, Daniel like that.
I mean I mean obviously, you know, the guy parties
like crazy because Johnny Depp's all into him too. So um,
I mean I think he wakes up at like three
in like the afternoon or three in the evening. I mean,
and um, he's you know, of course stayed up until
like what like three or four like that. Yeah. Yeah,

(52:47):
he's just like he wakes up, he like you know,
of course like starts with like coffee and then he
like drinks a bunch of booze and then of course
like shoots into doing like his blow and all that
stuff and whatever. But that was like he did ago.
I'm like, you're described your light. Um. But yeah, basically
he um, he just had this insane schedule that he
eventually went into. He really didn't drift away from uh

(53:10):
for like three or three Yeah. I mean, and that's
honestly not why I'd want to like smoke with him
or whatever. But the guy is just he's got some
That's the first time we've heard of him, and I
like it. I love hearing new people like that. Yeah,
I mean I've never heard of him. That's when I
said that. And I love that Daniel knew right away
who he was, so that's even better. What about you?
Who do you think tom So? I wanted to say

(53:31):
othert Einstein, but then I thought about it again. Probably
somebody from like more like way back right, like Jesus
or Moses, because then you can tap to like, you know,
thousands of years ago and you can ask some question, Moses,
did you really smoke when that Bernie Bush was right?
With that d m T? Like? What's what's that? Like?

(53:52):
You can really like look a lout of myths? Was
there more than ten commandments? And you really dropped one
of those fucking rocks? All that stuff? Man? Like this
is on tap knowledge. So probably I agree. I love
when I think deep like that to going just to
go back and have a you know, an idea of
what was that real? Tell me more about And there
are highly spiritual people, man, I mean there's a lot

(54:13):
of theories about them, you know, um, mostly Moses, but
I think Jesus too, Like using recreational drugs. They even
say that that the burning bush in in that area
of the desert and the Sinai Desert, they have a
lot of acasia trees and acacia trees trees when they
burn they produced d MT. So there's a theory saying, like,

(54:33):
you know, Moses, like you know, talking to a burning bush,
talking to God, it's really him having a hallucination. I've
heard these theories. Have you ever tried m Have you
guys ever tried that? I haven't tried man him a
little bit. I don't think I'm ready for it. It's
like a big what is it? I don't even know
what it is. It's a hallucinogenic but um, you know,
and is it new? How have I never tried this? Is? So?

(54:56):
I learned about it from Joe Rogan and and so.
But what it is is and I experienced somebody on
it my last cap camping trip, by the way, And
I'm not gonna say who because but it wasn't you know.
It's just somebody I was there with and they were like, dude,
I'm gonna do something. It's like, do you mind, And
I'm like, now, go right ahead. I'm like, you know,
and because you have crazier yeah, sometimes you think that way, right,

(55:19):
That's how I figured I don't have to punch you.
But but I guess. And they went under the cover,
you know what I mean. And they took a few
hits and they're like, I know the cover, I don't know.
I was because I wanted to see how they hit
it too. Yeah, me too. You don't want in front
of me, please, Yeah, yeah. I wanted to kind of
see what it was like or how they did it.
But they didn't. They put it under the head and
I was like, what are you doing? And they're like, oh,

(55:40):
don't worry, but you know, when I come back. Yeah,
when I come back, I'm gonna be. I'm just letting
you know I'm gonna be, you know, on D M
T and don't don't try and talk to me for
the next twenty minutes or whatever. It was, yeah, and
um and so boom, you know, all of a sudden
that the thing comes off. And then they looked at
me and they're like wow, wow. And then I was

(56:02):
like and then I and I was smoking and I
flicked the device that was smoking in the little you know,
the cherry of the cigarette or whatever, flu and she
was like whow And I was just like wow. They
just kept saying wow for fifteen minutes, dude. And I
was like, and it was just like, you can't make
you want to try it? I mean, you know, yeah, no,
you know what I mean, like I want to try

(56:23):
it because you know, I've heard people are you know,
have have met God? You know? Is it a flower?
Is it a pill? Is it a fucking powder? You
can you can get it from different sources, so you know, Um,
you can get it from ayuasca. So ayuaska is a
bark from one tree and the root of another tree,
and the Native Americans cookie together it produces d MT.

(56:44):
They drink it, right, and they drink it. Yeah, but
they smoked it. They smoked it. So yeah, so you
can get a d MT like extract and powder and
smoke it. A lot of people smokating bowls and I
saw some d m T vaypants to people can vape it.
I know some people took it in a vape um.
So there's different ways to consume it. But the active
in grede Is is d m T you know, but

(57:05):
that cannabis. You can consume it in different ways. But
apparently it gives you this outer body experience. Um, you
completely disconnect from your body. You don't see reality, You
see like a like you're in a dream basically. But
it's supposedly to have profound effects on your on your
you know, whole perception of life and reality. It's funny
how so many things like this are making a bigger

(57:27):
splash and normal life, meaning like your psychedelics with mushrooms
and your micro docing of us and that and hearing
about this stuff that's becoming even not only just a
fun element to add to the barbecue let alone function
of a camping trip, but also really helping with seizures
and medical conditions. That is more like wow, of using

(57:49):
it for that, of course, there's a lot of us
out there that I want to just use it for
recreational which I didn't know. I've just run into a
party the other day that a lot of these cats
that I was at they all micro dose with mushrooms.
It's like a normal thing on the weekends. Cats are
just like taking a cap what you did one earlier,
right out the whole day. You're like, we're had a
kid's function right now. They're like, we had kids function?

(58:12):
Why is he laughing all the time and blah blah
because they're all micro docy And I'm like, well, like
I said on a few shows ago, I was at
Raising Waters with my family and and you know, these
these guys came up and they were all super yoked,
and they were in their late thirties early forties, you know,
and I mean healthy, is ship just ripped? Just look
like us? Yeah yeah, if you're listening to us, we

(58:35):
look amazing. But so they're sitting there and I'm I'm
just ear hustling, you know, and the guys like, bro,
I think I took too many mushrooms, and I'm like
looked over. I'm like, dude, these guys are on mushrooms
right now. And there's like six of them there, dude,
and they're and they're they're not young kids, they're grown,
you know, like I said, And they're you know, forties,
you know, and in early fifties even, you know. And
and and I'm like, dude, these guys are shrewming right now.

(58:58):
And then he's like, dude, I told you I I
m might credoc and I feel great, dude, and guys
like I feel good too, And he's like, you shouldn't
have took as many as Ryan, dude. You and Ryan
are feeling like you're melting. And they're all like just
talking back and forth, and I'm just like and and
they don't really out there people are doing it. Yeah,
and you don't like it's normal, dude, It's it's not.
You know, it's not well becoming more and more normal
like cannabis became normal. It's just becoming more and more.

(59:19):
It's it's getting less and less. So, guys, is there
anything that we missed that we guys want to bring
up before we let you guys out of here. Um?
I don't think so. No, I think we're good. Yeah. Well,
a couple of things really um so. Uh MJ biscon
with dropping a new product, very exciting. Hopefully we can
do a follow up on it soon before m J
biscon Um and I got to show Joe what it's
all about before we we pack and leave here. Uh sin,

(59:42):
there's that MJ Bascom coming up October nineteen to twenty
second in Vegas Convention Center. The second thing is shout
out to everything for twenty dot com. That's another business
that I'm one of the founders and owners. Um it's
your you know, um everything, UM smoke shop sale, everything
from UM grinders to bonds. Um, you know all of

(01:00:04):
your brand names. Um, you know jeep in everything you
name it? So everything four twenty dot com hit him
up Um, they representedly, they probably represent the syndicate, uh
and a bunch of other companies. So go check him out.
And we have deals and sales every month. Well, hopefully
you guys can join us too at the G four
Live in May. That will be a good event. I

(01:00:24):
don't know if you heard, but we're in the same
all of them, are we Yeah, we're in the same hall.
Oh they're coming. Yeah, we we have our booth. Their
booth is in the same hall. You guys are in
the booth Hall of Flowers both section right four Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
they should be at G four as well. But Hall
of Flowers, no, no, no. G four is a is

(01:00:46):
A is A. It's a show like Champs. Uh, it's
a little smaller, it's not quite as big, but it
has I think, just more people in general. Sometimes they're
interact more interactional. I feel like, like, you know, at Champs, right,
it's it's amazing show, by the way, but you know,
if you don't have the right seat there, you know,
you can get lost, right, But if you have the

(01:01:07):
right seat, you're in good hands. Um. Whereas that G
four Live, you know, I feel like it's just it's
a smaller event, maybe you know, a hundred to five
hundred boost, but it's still able to actually you know,
meet a lot of people and get the right But
they have differite advances like food that's always good and
it comes with the ticket. And then they have like
you know, Sublime performing Snoop Dogs and Travis Barker. So

(01:01:27):
it's more of a buyer no, no, yeah, it's B
two B. But it's just it's it's it's a little
fun events. It's more of an event. It's a combination
of both, more of an experience like the other ones
are like shows. This is a show with an event
and an experience. It's not just commercially exactly. I have

(01:01:50):
like a better feel when I went to the G
four Live because of everything it offered me. I was like,
oh wow, I didn't get to do that at you
know j an't want to check did do that at
m J BIZ. What I didn't go to this party
and hang out with all these people afterwards and have
this there's always the after party, but not like this
one for somewhere just different. It's just different, more intimate.
But exactly, I don't know what it was, just it

(01:02:13):
like you meet people and and and and uh, you
have more time to communicate with the real relationship. Champs
just like boom boom boom boom is just so much
bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye by bye,
which is good. It's good, you know what I mean.
It's like you can sniff everybody out at Champs real quick,
but over there you kind of start to mingle with
people and you get to know him a little better
and it's just a different But where is it hailed out?

(01:02:33):
It's at the l A Convention Center, but they're they're
hosting it at the Resorts World, so they do uh
the event from the Resource World and then they have
the Elon Muski is electric car what is it Tesla
thing that goes under and takes you to the convention center.
So that's what they're doing this year. There's I don't
know if you guys know about it or two, but um,

(01:02:53):
the Tesla has this new activation that takes you from
Resort World to the convention center. So instead of having
to try and do all those other you know, Charlie
and this and this thing just goes all the way
under in Tesla vehicles. It just takes you right there.
So you pull your vehicle onto it, or they pull
a vehicle onto it and they just take you there.
So it's May twelve, Okay, yeah it's time. Yeah yeah,
there's plenty of time for you guys. Well there it is, guys.

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