May 3, 2024 • 51 mins
Today on Financial Fridays, Anthony Alegrate of 40 Tons™ joins Tony K. into an intense discussion on how No one should be in prison for a plant as well as turning life experiences into a profitable business. 40 Tons™ is a social-impact premium Cannabis & Lifestyle Brand rooted in Legacy, Social & Restorative Justice. Visit the website www.40tons.co & follow @40tonsbrand to get involved today! Cannabis Talk 101, “The World’s #1 Source For Everything Cannabis”, made global history by becoming the first cannabis show to partner with iHeartMedia, on 4/20/2020. Thank you for listening & watching Cannabis Talk 101 with Christopher Wright, aka "Blue" the CEO and creator of Cannabis Talk 101 and the Cannabis Talk Network. & Joe Grande, former Co-Host on Big Boy’s Neighborhood on Power 106 FM, On-Air with Ryan Seacrest on 102.7 KIIS FM in Los Angeles and The Dog House in the Bay Area on WILD 94.9 KYLD. Toking with the Stars with Chuckie & Marty, & Financial Fridays with Tony Kassaei, The Inside Investor, on YouTube, IHeartRadio App, Spotify, & Apple Podcasts.
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I have somebody really special. This is somebody I've been
wanting to do a show with for a while now.
This man is the co founder and CEO of a
brand making a difference. This is a cause that's closed
not just to my heart, but if cannabis talk one
on one as well, because no one should be in
prison for a plant or a business that companies and
corporations are making billions off of, and this man is
(02:10):
making a difference. You guys, welcome to the show. The
COO co founder of forty Tons, my man, Anthony all
A Grady.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Thank you so much, man, appreciate you to.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Thank you so much for being here. Brother. You know,
I've heard your story kind of indirectly through the guys,
but I purposely have kind of not wanted to hear
the whole thing because I wanted to hear it directly
from you for the first time on the show, at
least my show. I know you've done the flagship show
here several times. You're a good front of the show.
I've seen it at our festivals, at our bus tours.
You've always supported us, and it's my honor to kind
(02:42):
of support this program and just the little ideas I've
been hearing from you. Man, you are making such an
impact on so many people that could use it. So welcome.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Well, thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Man,
I'm a big fan of the show, big fan of
Master Mentors, Live Your Financial Friday's Cannabis Talk one on one.
Are really doing an amazing job just here with community
and I'm an honored guest here.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Well, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Man.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Now for the audience that doesn't know who you are
or what forty tons is or you know, this is
a brand that has kind of built itself around social equity.
You heard me at the opening monologue kind of tell
you about like, you know, nobody should be in prison
for a plant, especially now when in over half the
states it's legal. And more importantly, can you imagine sitting
in prison right now for life nonviolent criminal, or even
(03:28):
for a period gosh, any period of time? I mean
one day is too many days, right, And you've now
got a phenomenal you know, just just a kind of
a hair raising story about your experiences. I know your
wife is also co founder, another gentleman that you helped
get out of prison for life. So tell me a
little bit about your story and how you got into
this industry and the vision and the inspiration behind it.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Sure, so it all started, you know, twenty something years back.
You know, my friend Corbain Cooper and I, you know,
we're legacy guys selling weed, right, and we were back then,
we were selling the Mexican compressed brick weed. Yeah, you know,
and that's how you got the forty tons. I don't
think anyone could sell forty tons of a chronic back then. No,
it wasn't even made. How do you think the whole
(04:13):
market produced that much? But but yeah, so that that's
kind of where it originally started. And then you know, unfortunately,
you know, over the years and with prohibition and with
the way you know, the laws are on this plant,
you know, lots of people got locked up, many black
and brown, and a lot of folks you know, caught
life sentences or quasi life sentences due to technicalities like
(04:34):
you know, having a two strikes and so Corraine ended
up getting a life sentence. And in twenty twenty when
we you know, when right at the beginning of the pandemic,
you know, we had a couple of opportunities. There was
a lot of organizations out there that were advocating on
his behalf, from you know, Last Prisoner Project to Freedom
Grow Life for pot can do, Clemency Project, Mission Green
(04:57):
and many more. And what was happening was was each
one of those organizations was kind of like working in
silo separately, right, And what we were what I thought,
because this is a friend of mine of twenty nine years,
why don't we bring everyone together, bring everything together, and
let's create a brand. Right, And so we created a brand.
This was Corvain, Loril and myself. We decided on phone calls.
(05:19):
It's ironic that this is a financial Friday because one
of the main things that Corvain and I would do
we would trade stocks from prison.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
No shit. Yeah, so he would, like you would basically
trade on his behalf. He'd call on the order. You'd
kind of strategize together exactly.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Because he's a great He'd be watching CNBC, you know
what I mean, because he was on the East Coast,
so he'd be watching CNBC at four or five in
the morning his time, and you know, just running the
plays and obviously you know it's secondhand information after the time, right,
but nonetheless, like after you watch over and over and
over and you read the Wall Street Journal and you're
talking with your guys, you become quasi good. Yeah, absolutely,
(05:53):
we run some loss some you know what I mean. Like,
you know, we took a couple hundred bucks and flipped
it up to quite a few thousand, gave it back,
brought it back again, you know. But during those phone calls,
we would have conversations about building something, and so we
got an opportunity to be able to do that, and
so we did. And you know, when it was asked
of me to you know, put together a brand, put together,
(06:15):
you know, a story, put together what it was, the
manufacturing partner at the time said, we'll do all the logistics,
back end stuff, but we're not going to build you
a brand.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
You have to go do that.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
So I spent the next three to four months trying
to figure out how to do that. And I worked
with a company called Media Jail, and Aaron and off
Taly donated their time and services and they helped build
what you now know as forty tons And so that
was the early early stages. And long story short, our
brand is about no one should be in prison for cannabis.
(06:45):
We try to make it not so sad, right, you know,
because we don't want to just talk about prison and
going to jail. We want to also talk about like
our products and what we're doing. But at the end
of the day, the sole reason for our brand and
the mission behind our brand is about out freeing the
cannabis prisoners and then when those prisoners get out, they're
given a second chance and help them level up.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
And you know, obviously, when you when you're watching traditional
mainstream media, there's two sides, and there's the side that
that's talking about you know, criminals or criminals, you still
lock them up. You're not getting criminals out, You're getting
people that have got caught up in a system that
have that are nonviolent offenders that are literally behind bars
just for cannabis. Is that accurate?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Exactly? Like, you know, many people are in jail right
now for cannabis while we're making billions of dollars right
So using the word criminal is tough for for folks
that are incarcerated for cannabis because it's like they're not criminals,
right and like, you know, even criminals right in the
in the typical sense of the world, should have the
ability to rehabilitate, right And unfortunately in this country, there
(07:51):
is no rehabilitation. And so when there's dispensaries on every corner,
and your children are able to buy weed while you're
sitting in jail for it. It kind of hurts the heart,
you know, And so it's like, what do you do?
And like imagine, you know, imagine you were in jail
for doing a TV show on financial literacy, right, but
(08:15):
there's other people out there doing shows on financial literacy.
But you went to jail for doing a show on
financial literacy because at the time that had happened, it
wasn't allowed.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Now, you know, I don't typically like to look into
I always say the front view, mayor is up bigger
for a reason than the rear view, because you want
to stay focused on what's in front of you. But
I think with you, it's important to understand the history
of of what your experience was with incarceration, why you
went away, how long, and then the journey that you
had to get your buddy out. Tell me about how
you guys ended up locked up.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah, so I mean, at the end of the day,
you know, stuff that we had did years ago came
back to haunt us. A childhood friend of ours, you
know what I mean, got in trouble and you know
it was a rap after that, and then you know,
This was years years ago. Like you know, I personally
hadn't even seen anyone for over seven years, and so
(09:05):
it was just a really unfortunate set of circumstances. And
what ended up happening was once once, you know, I
came home and I got back on my feet, and
you know, Corvan and I were making money with the
stocks and doing different things like that. We were we
were given some opportunities, right, and so those opportunities manifested
into what they are. Some did well, some didn't. Some
(09:26):
people had our best interests, some people did not have
our best interests. But at the end of the day,
we learned from all of that. And one thing about
me is I'm an entrepreneur to the core. I eat
what I kill, and I've been eating what I've killed
what I kill for twenty five years. So I fully
truly understand what it means to be an entrepreneur. I
understand what it means to be paid. Last, I understand
what it means to really build something. Right, driving uber
(09:49):
is not an entrepreneur. You're working for yourself, but that's
not an entrepreneur, right. Being an entrepreneur is when everything
rises and falls on you and you take care of
the system before you take care of yourself. And so
with that knowledge, I wanted to help build something that
had meaningful impact. And I don't have a million dollars.
I'm not highly capitalized. You know, talk about social equity, right,
(10:11):
we are social equity, but unfortunately in order to be
in this industry, you need to be capitalized. So what
could we do differently? That's cool, that's fun, that still
puts out good products, has a message, is different, looks different,
does things that are different. And so that's how we
came up with the concept for forty tons, what.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Was the total amount that you spent behind bors?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
So I did a total of all my tenure a
little less than five years total, but on that last
one it was I did two years in jail and
about a little slightly less two years on house arrest.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Now, your business partner, if I read correctly, he actually
was part in by Trump. Correct.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, he did nine years on a life sentence. And
if it wasn't for former President Donald Trump, he'd still
be sitting in jail right now. So you know, we
honor and are thankful for what he did for us.
You know, we don't get involved in the politics, good
or bad, We're we're appreciative and you know, we retake
the face value at what it is, you know, and
you'll never ever hear us bad mouthing Trump or saying anything.
(11:17):
And plus, you know, my family always used to tell me, like,
if you don't got nothing nice to say, just don't
say nothing. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
So, and on the politics side of it, So the
current administration, I know, when they first got in, it
was very big on we're going to decriminalize it. There
was talk about that as every politician does, right because
as I said on the show yesterday, I think they're
going for the stoner vote. They say that at the beginning,
hoping you'll forget at the end of the four years
and from Obama didn't do shit, you know, Trump did,
(11:42):
I think most in terms of especially pardoning and getting
these non violent guys out.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Not only did he do that, you know, and a
lot of people won't tell you this, but Trump is
a major major person with criminal justice reform with the
First Step Back. Yeah, lots of guys got out of
jail from the First Step Act and that was probably
some of the biggest legislation that went through the White
House to help prisoners, not just cannabis guys that were
(12:09):
getting fifty sixty years for selling an ounce of coke. Right,
things like that, like the First Step Act did a lot. So,
you know, left, right, conservative, liberal, Republican, Democrat. They all
have their faults, they do, you know what I mean,
each one's have it. You know, if you're fiscally conservative,
you know you're going to move to the right. If
you're more socially liberal, you're going to move to the left.
(12:30):
At the end of the day, I like to base
my politics on individual issues, absolutely, and cannabis is important,
and so was financial finance. Uh.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
In the current administration, there was some uh, there was
some news and a lot of hoorrah about the last
round that he did by then dead and but it
was it was like one hundred people, and it was
like if you have these these days, but there's still
literally millions of people locked up for the same infractions. Right,
So there was really nothing done.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Let me let me, let me, let me back up,
because I don't ever want to just say something's completely bullshit,
but things can be bullshit when it's like it'd be
like this whole floor if you mopped it spick and
span in this two feet. You can say you clean
the floor, but it's bullshit if the whole floor is
still there, you know what I'm saying. But but I
(13:19):
don't want to take away from the fact that that
part okay. So, you know, as it relates to overall
clemency's and pardons and things like that, you know, the
current administration is doing things towards that I personally think
that they could just be doing more right, especially for
you know, cannabis offenders. Right, like they did push the
(13:41):
whole thing. I don't believe they should be in prison
this that. Then they switched it to no one should
be in jail for smoking weed, right, then they switched
it to no one should be in jail for possessing weed.
But no one's in jail for those things. Right. They
may get arrested for them, but they're released. People don't
go to prison for.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Talking about prison time. And that's something they didn't exactly
And then you really look at it and it's like, dude,
why don't we just start with rescheduling it.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
You know.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
One of the things I've learned through the Master Mentor's
Live program is, as our great speaker Marcus, when I
was out in Dallas. I learned that, you know, he
really broke it down. And it's like, this government is
telling you that fentanyl, at meth and heroin and cocaine
is better for you, literally better for you than marijuana.
And it's just something that that blows my mind.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Man. It's a you know what it is. It's it's
it's what your show is based around. Yeah, it's finances.
Everything is to do with find Tony, you know, just
Chris over here in the corner. For me, I don't
even think that it's a reschedule, but just a deschedule.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Yeah, correct, if they're looking to put it on Schedule three,
which means you'd have to get it through a.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Pharmacy, dude. And here's the thing. Get that whole list
that I just described, from fentanyl to heroin to marijuana,
ox cond to I'm sorry, to cocaine to ox con.
What's not on any of that schedule is tobacco or alcohol.
Like that's not even on the fronting list, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
That's because of the lobby, right, so you know, in
one hundred years will probably be in the same position
as alcohol and tobacco is. But we're in the infant stages.
And you know, the first five to ten years of
prohibition with alcohol was probably gnarly, and it was in
a time when there was no technology, and it was
in the twenties and thirties, and so evolution has to
catch up to where we're at. You know, I'll say
(15:17):
this one percent agree with with with Chris about descheduling
and not rescheduling, But I think it has more to
do with the infrastructure that's been put in place to
decriminalize this plan, to lock people up, to get the
tax money from those things, to pay for all of
the different agencies to police it all. Like, that's a
(15:39):
whole infrastructure. If you're gonna if you're gonna disrupt that,
you have to be able to figure out how to
resupplement those things. So then that way there's not a
loss on that side, because if you were gonna lose,
you're gonna fight no matter what, even if what you're
fighting for is wrong. It's what you believe in and
you're gonna fight to the death for because it's it's you.
So we have to put ourselves in the position of
(16:00):
chess players, and like, how can we all win and
not just checkmate the other side.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Absolutely absolutely, you guys, we're gonna take a break here.
We're here with Anthony from forty Tonks. When we come back,
I'm going to ask him the Financial Friday five and
we're going to get into the economics and business of
what he's doing and how you can learn of how
he took his experiences, his passion for the plant and
is now not only making money when it's with it,
but having an impact. We'll be right back here on
(16:24):
Financial Friday.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
We'll be right back with the Financial Friday five on
Cannabis Talk one on one's Financial Fridays with the Insider
Investor Tony K. Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one on
one's Financial Fridays with the Insider Investor Tony K. It's
(16:46):
now time for the Financial Friday five and you guys.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
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equity brand built around getting prisoners out that are there
for non criminal activity that revolved around the plant. I mean, basically,
(17:31):
they're in prison because of a plant accord, an industry
that's being made legal clear across the country, and corporations
for making billions offut before I go into the cunty
Friday five talking about Freddie, do you feel like right
now the average person that's getting caught up in the
game that they have adequate legal representation. I see so
many of these kids get caught up with a public
(17:53):
defenders who just jam these deals down these kids' throat.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yeah, that's a great point. I don't think that they
have access. That there's a problem with access in this country.
To the core on everything, social equity is about access.
Lending is about access, right, knowledge is about access, and
so in these marginalized communities, typically ones that are poor,
and you know a lot of them black brown minorities.
(18:19):
These marginalized communities don't have access, and so legal representation
is just as important. And not only that, not only
just having access, but then even having access to good lawyers,
so even paid attorneys that aren't going to rob you
right right.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Absolutely having a network that you can rely on, I
think is really important. That's one of the things we
pride ourselves on. You know, we always talk about master
mentors live. But the reason I do talk about that
a lot isn't just because I'm involved with it, but
it's because I do believe that mentors can make a
world of difference. I feel like every incarcerated person I've
ever had on the show or as a friend will
always tell me, man if I had the right mentors
(18:53):
early on, even in the right game, I would have
gotten further, I would have done better, I would have
avoided certain pitfalls. Accept So I that's something that I
that I have a passion for us well. And this
is a story that I actually haven't I don't think
I've shared on air. Not too many people know, but
about two years ago, dude, I ended up with the
double fell and it had never been arrested in my life.
(19:14):
And I would travel to Texas to speak about once
a month. I would have different events and networking groups
out there, and I would always bring like, you know,
these bad gummies or chocolate bars for my buddies that
you know, Texas is very very restrictive, sticking in my
check in, YadA, YadA YadA. One time I get there,
the suber driver picks me up really nice, attractive older lady,
probably in her mid sixties, and we get to talking
(19:35):
and she says, thank you for this great conversation. You know,
I have stage four terminal cancer. I'm usually zoked out
on oxies, et cetera. But I'm having a good week
and I'm just doing this to have conversations and get out.
So I asked her what she does for her pain,
and she says, you know, I wish I had access
to edibles because when I was in New York, I
went to this place called she called it something meant,
she didn't even say med Men's. He goes something mad,
(19:55):
I said, Medman. She goes, yeah, I look like an
apple store. So a long story longer. She when she
dropped me off. I reach into my luggage. I give
her like three or four bars. She profusely thanks me.
She says, let me pay you. I said, now, I
don't want your money. He goes, well, next time you
come in, hit me up. It'd be an honor to
just pick you up for free. I said, I'll take
you up next time I come in. Before I come in,
I text her, she goes, you know, do you mind
(20:16):
if I sell you some That really helped with my nausea,
it'd help with my chemo. Just bring me some more.
So sells me a couple hundred bucks. I bring up
the chocolate bar, show the receipt. It's non profit. I
go to the dispensary to buy it. It's not my business.
I don't sell her or promote it any kind of
products like that. And I do that two or three trips.
Then next time she's like, hey, can I send you
more money. Some of my girlfriends and chemo, yeah, I
(20:37):
gave them some, and now you know they want help.
So I'm like muling back and for five six hundred
bucks worth the chocolate bars. This next time I go
into town, I call her up. She does an answer.
I figure she's having a bad day. I get my
own over home, give out the remaining chocolate bars. I
save her two three bags just in case she calls
me the last second. And I'm going through the airport
at Dallas Fort Worth and like an idiot, I threw
(20:59):
my wallet inside my checking luggage and I go to
go through security and I'd be like, shit, I don't
have my wallet. They said, oh, no problem, pull up
your Facebook. They went through some secondary questions. They said, Okay,
we know who you are. Now you can go in.
But you know, they did a secondary inspection of my
carry on bag and I had this bag of gummies
with a federal and state tax stamp that they that
they arrested me for. I go into Terren County jail
(21:22):
for three days and I'm talking to some of the
other ud like damn, man, you're locked up for a
double felony because out of vappen in Texas, this is
considered a felony. Just in this quantity, a vape pen
by itself considered a felony. So now I'm locked up,
no bail warrant because it's a double felony. Blah blah blah.
It takes three days after I finally get let out.
The ladies like, what did you get caught for it?
(21:42):
I said this there she goes, yeah, you've never been arrested.
I said, no, this was the first time I've let
anybody out just on their own recognizance, you know, for
a double felony. But sorry. She was almost apologetic. You
know the cops are some of the cops are apologetic,
blah blah blah. But I learned a lot. And while
I was in there, I realized, Man, even once I
got the piece of paper that I was going out,
they still kept me in there for eighteen more hours.
Come to find out, they get paid three hundred and
(22:04):
thirty dollars from the state every time you're in there,
for every twenty four hours. So, you know, Texas in
every other state, I think where we where Clinton found
You know, Clinton's era really fed up was dude. It
became incarceration for monetization. They privatized prisons, which, if you
understand businesses and capitalism, if you have a hotel room
with a thousand rooms in it, you got to keep
(22:24):
him filled up, to pay the bills, to pay the
security guards, to pay all this stuff. And that's really
where I discovered a man being in there lock up,
there'd be this kid that was eighteen years old begging
his mom for two hundred bucks bail. I probably bailed
out like six kids just be I just felt sorry
for him. One kid was like driving to his McDonald's job.
They pulled him over for a busted tailight at two
pm in the afternoon. Who gets pulled over for that?
(22:44):
Because he's eighteen and there's a seventeen year old the car,
they have the right to search him because he had
a bottle of xanax with his mom's name on it
in his mom's car, with the prescription bottle that he's
driving his mom's to McDonald's job. He gets a pulled
over felony. They arrest all the kids in the car,
all a gang activity because you have other kids with you.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Just these obscure laws that the goodness.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
So these kids are getting caught up for a joint
kid can't even get a job at McDonald's. You know,
the DA is gonna just probably jam down some kind
of probationary shit. They're gonna fail over some other bullshits,
and now you're stuck in the system. That's where I
really understood. Man. It's easy to judge it from the
outside and to say, oh, you know, these are criminals anyway,
But I really saw the pain and damage that the
system can do. And like you said, they there was
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more drug dealers being drug deals being done in that
court room, in that jail room, you know, or when
I was in my little cubes that I've ever seen
on any street corner. You know, there's tons being moved
in there, no pun intended.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Right, No, that's that's the issue, man. You know, these
are systemic problems at scale, and you know, we're not
going to solve anything overnight. But I mean, if we
can put social good back into the community, then that's
what we're here to do at forty tons, is you know,
do social good help folks and make a profit off
of what we help build.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Yeah, yeah, you know. And to kind of wrap up
that story, just thinking back right now, I had, you know,
spent fifteen twenty thousand on attorneys, took two and a
half years of me flying back and forth just to
get them all dismissed and drop down to one misdemeanor.
But when you really think about it, it's like most
kids don't have that No, that's you know, or they
missed one court date. Now you're back to a fellow
me and then and then you're just caught up in
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the system. So what I want to I want to
get into the financials of what you guys are doing
and to kind of segue into that, I'd love to
kind of ask you the financial Friday five. This is
a This is a round of questions I ask every
guest that comes on the show because I find that
entrepreneurs always have great stories that can inspire others on
how to make money. The first question I got for you,
Anthony Cooo of forty tons, is what was the best
investment you've ever made?
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Man, I got I probably take the cake for the
best investment that's ever been.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
On your show, you personally investing in yourself.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
No, I'm going to tell you what the what the
investment was. But I don't think that anyone is going
to be able to be kick wait for this one.
So and maybe people have made more money. So, but
but the percentage multiplier is where I think as where
I'm winning. So a buddy of mine was investing in
penny stocks and doing little things like this, and you know,
Penny stocks are bullshit, and everyone knows, you know the
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pink sheets. Maybe you know you ten ex your money, right,
so you buy one hundred dollars worth and maybe you
get to you know, a thousand bucks, and if you
ten x, that's great if you're lucky, I mean, if
you're lucky. So I bought some penny stocks that were
at point zero zero zero one of a percent worth
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of penny stocks. I bought one hundred dollars worth. That
was a million shares. That son of a gun stock
went from point zero zero zero one two nine cents.
Oh shit, Now I sold seventy five percent of it
when it got to twenty x. So I cashed out
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for two grand on one hundred dollars investment, seventy five
percent of it because I didn't think it was gonna
keep going right like that? I mean, dude, who the
hell makes you know?
Speaker 2 (25:59):
What?
Speaker 4 (25:59):
I mean? That's a that's a that's a twenty create
four decimal move points and a nine time multiplier.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Like, come on, like it doesn't get better than that, right, Okay,
I keep twenty five percent of it. This fucker keeps going. Now,
had I cashed out at the peak, I would have
flipped my one hundred dollars into ninety one thousand dollars.
I ended up cashing out at eighteen thousand, five hundred bucks.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Hey, you know what, I'm still I will tell you
a percentage return that definitely has the highest rate of return.
And I will tell you I love the fact that
you shared that story because it makes for a great point.
And this is what I think a lot of kids
and adults. What I know, I don't even know why
I say kids because it's my own friends that don't
listen to me. Is especially during the crypto boom, and
these kids would buy these alt shit coins and it
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would move one decimal point. The one thousand dollars would
be one hundred thousand. I have one hundred. I'm like,
do you have one hundred? No, you can't go buy
a car right now. First sell it, first, collect your winnings,
and then at least take what you put in or
a multiple like you did. And and yeah, you can
look back in the river mirrors a I should have done.
But for every one of those I should have would
have It's fuck.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
I should have sold it, would have had it I
still made eighteen thousand and five. Well, of that story, too,
is make your money work for you, make it exactly.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
You take your profit off the table.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah, I have, I have a I have a flip.
Side of that story that's even more fucked up is
my buddy who told me to do it, purchased one
thousand dollars worth of it, wow, and he sold it
at two x and made made a thousand. Because he
didn't think it was like these things don't move like that.
He would have made nine hundred and ten thousand dollars.
(27:40):
To this day, he's still sick over it. You know,
it's a once in a lifetime opportunity. These things don't
happen I take.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
I give really good advice, but I don't take my
own advice. And I was guilty the same thing that
we have. This shitty friend of mine, he invented his
coin called Moby, and everybody's amped up on it, and
I was getting paid consulting fees in it. So my
thirty thousand tens three hundred and seventy five thousand, like
a idiot, I didn't even take my thirty racks out,
thinking it's gonna be worth millions, and I bought into
the utility and all the bullshit of it, and sure enough,
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it's not even worth a fucking penny. So that's not
that's my worst decision, right. Moral of the story, Dony
needs to listen to himself more. Question number two on
the Financial Friday five is what is the worst investment
that you've ever made? Now, this could be a business
or a person.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Well, I definitely don't want to blast anybody in terms
of people, but I'll keep it to the financials. Ironically,
and this one's boring, but ironically, like I put in,
you know, a couple grand into the cannabis stocks some
years back, and I've just lost parent company and some
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other penny one USMJ, which was some bullshit, but I
thought that it was gonna, you know, you throw a
couple hundred dollars here, a couple of hundred dollars there,
if it's it's a long shot. But I invested a
few thousand and I lost.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
You really are traded. I love that. And I don't
know if Chris heard the story too, but I'm still
I'm still laughing at your story of trading stocks from
prison with.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
We were doing options, we were doing the Spider, we
were doing the spy five hundreds.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Yeah, and then and then they're they're probably listening to
your ship too on security, be like, oh, maybe he
knows something. They're probably buying it in the background.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Yeah, it was cool, dude, we we I got a
couple of those conversations recorded, and Corvane and I laugh
at it all the time.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
We take it.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
But he got greedy and was like, we gotta do this,
We got to do that, and I'm like, no, no,
we don't. And then we did what he said and
then we lost big on it. But then you know,
he'd also have wins too, so it was fun. It
was fun, but it was just, you know, we were
behind the eight ball because I mean, dude, we're calling
from prison, and you.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Know, yeah, I think that's probably a good spot too.
You know, they, like you said, your buddy is sitting
there watching CNBC probably for hours on end, so he's
soaking up that knowledge. One of the crazier stories that
I have these two stripper sisters in Texas that I
got to become friendly with. And this girl had a
better portfolio than anybody I'd ever seen, and she turned
like one hundred and fifty thousand into almost eight hundred thousand,
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and I said, where do you get all this? She goes,
do you know, We're in Dallas's. There's big money, but
there's big players there, and she would get her best
stock tips from these CEOs And it's probably inside of trading,
but I guess it's kind of gets negated inside of
strip club.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I guess so as he doesn't hang out there, right,
you know what I mean? So, so yeah, that was
you know, I lost.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
I lost that.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I also lost a big time. I invested in a
really nice house in Menifee in two thousand and six,
put in hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of shit
because I was bawling at the time. I go to
jail in two thousand and seven. Uh, and then the
market crash in two thousand and eight and I had
to sell it, and I.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
This long time.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
I paid five hundred for that fucking house. I put
in like one hundred and fifty two and a grant.
You know. The bucker who got it got it for
one ninety two. Wow, did I have forty thousand worth
of palm trees? I had like thirty thousand worth of
bottlenosed brick backyard, and some fucker got got it for
one hundred and ninety two thousand.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Dollars community now it's seven figures. I haven't even checked out,
you know.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
But but but they got it at that right after
you know, like it went into short cell and all that.
So that was probably a shitty investment too.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
You learn from it though, right Oh, I learned it.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
You know, there is no losses, just lessons, good man,
you know what I mean. You know, you get accidental
PhDs and stuff that you don't need until you need
them again.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Question number three, brothers, what is the best present you've
ever bought yourself?
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
The best presdent I ever bought myself was a trip
to Peru.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Okay, this was solo with your wife.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
This was this was with a retreat, so very similar
to like a Master Mentors but not quite like that,
but very similar. That we hike Rainbow Mountain, Machu Pichu,
helped the kids in the hospital Amazon all that, and
I thought, and you know, I think travel is some
of the best experiences that you can give somebody, yourself
(31:57):
and others, because you get to learn so much about
other people. And then when you do things in these
foreign countries that you know, you go to these remarkable
wonders of the world, like Machu Picchu. In different places
like that, you just learn so much. You deal with
different people, you become worldly. You figure out how you
can work with other people. And I think, you know,
one of my superhero traits is the ability to you know,
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be in multiple environments. Yeah, and I think you get
that from traveling.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
This philanthropic edge that you have. You know, you mentioned
you were and prove and helping people of the Porpio.
Was this something that was in you before you got incarcerated?
Did you kind of kind of like when I said,
I came out, you know, I kind of really had
an appreciation for the suffering through that.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
So the second time that I went to prison in
two thousand and seven over cannabis stuff that was on
the money side of it, but just you know, cannabis
type things, I said to myself and I was, you know,
I'm not a big religious person, but I am spiritual.
And you know, you pray, you know, to God when
you're in like bad positions a lot, and it's just part,
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you know, part of your evolution of your spirituality. And
I said to myself that I was going to give
myself a life sentence to community service. If I made
it through this, and when I got out, I built
a huge charity called the Jump for Joy Foundation. I
helped thousands of kids become healthy fit. I partnered with
the NBA, NFL, all sorts of stuff, you can look
it up. And I just always had this thing of like,
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I just like helping folks, and I like being able
to make a living off of what I like doing.
You know what I mean? And what I like doing
is helping folks and whatever the whatever the help is
that I'm passionate about. Now I'm passionate about, you know,
in cannabis, criminal justice, whereas before I was passionate about,
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you know, ending childhood ob city.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
Question number four is what's it? Question number four is
what is the best present you've bought someone else bought
or given goodbye?
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Either? I would say the best prayer and I ever
gave was to my wife. I gave her three beautiful children.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Okay, I like that.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Boys and girls, two boys, one girl, two older boys,
younger girl. How old is your oldest twenty three? What
line of works he doing? He's he works in retail.
He's a retail guy. He's he's a great kid, you know,
goes to church. He's just a really good good kid.
My middle boy, who's who just turned twenty a couple
of days ago, is is a cybersecurity nice analyst, works
(34:27):
from home, has a five figure investment account, crushing it good.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Yeah, proud Papa, moment that super proud.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
I got great kids.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Man.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
My oldest is just a really good human being. My
middle child is a super entrepreneur, hustler. And then my
daughter who's eleven, is just a little leader that runs everybody.
The princess, she's a she's a spicy princess.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Alright, here's the queen. Hello. Last question is if you
could buy what? This is the queen that got the
best president ever.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Question number five is if you could buy one thing
and money is not an object? What would that be?
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Man?
Speaker 1 (35:06):
If I could buy one thing and money was not
an object, what would it be? It would be? So
this is gonna sound cheesy, but I think if and
probably everyone says this, but if you did this, then
everything else will will come into abundance. But I guess
I would. I would literally get rid of or not
(35:27):
get rid of, but I would How do I say this.
I don't want to say world peach, but I would.
I would. I would end all of the fighting amongst
humans needless suffering, the needless suffering, right, And so I
think if you do that, everything else becomes abundant after that.
Like I wouldn't just say well, if I could, I'd
buy an island or I do you know, I get that,
(35:49):
like that's so superficial, But I think like if we
if we ended negative fighting amongst humans at the government levels, yeah,
we would, and the trickle down effect of positivity with amos.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Yeah, I think the only way to do that was
your movement profit for more, which is pure impossible.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
So would you like to use that perfect and you'd
have to destroy the world over it. Hope that whatever
the new like organism is doesn't doesn't get the loots.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
Excellent, man, Well that thank you for putting putting up
without The reason I asked those questions is you'd be
surprised the little nuggets to give out and inspires other
people to move something specials maybe make a smart move
with their money. We're going to take a break care
with Anthony. When we come back, I want to hear
more about the brand and I want to tell you
guys about this amazing projects put together, the fundamentals of it,
why it got launched, why it didn't get launched, because
(36:41):
I think you'll learn a lot about We'll be right
back here on Financial Fighters.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
We'll be right back with more Financial Fridays with the
Inside Investor Tony k. Make sure you follow Tony at
the Insider Investor. Welcome back to Cannabis Talk, one on
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sure you like, follow and subscribe to the show.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
Now you just heard us talk about the power of mentors.
You guys. Master Mentors Live is coming to a city
near you. If you're looking on YouTube right now, look
at the website mastermenforslive dot com. We're in about twenty
two cities this year. Ladies and gentlemen, We're coming to
a town near you. This is a free, educational, ninety
minute workshop if you want to learn how to grow
the plan, how to sell the plan, how to have
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a media company like we do. All the thousands of
ancillary businesses in the fastest growing industry in the United States.
Gift not the world Right now, master Mentors Live is
coming to a city near you. Give them a call,
check out the website, look at a state, click the
link and we'll be right there in your neighborhood. We're
now back here on twentas to Fridays with Anthony Grady,
(37:50):
the COO co founder of forty tons. This is a
brand that I would happily endorse. Now, let me tell
me a little bit about the products from you guys.
First call offer all for the sales side. How many
skews you got where people can find it?
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Yeah? Awesome. Well, what you have in your hand is
actually a new direct to consumer product. It's a partnership
with Mini grown out of Minnesota. These are our hemp
derived Delta nine gummies. They're phenomenal. That one is roopier.
We have mango orange, sour lemonade and mohito. They're phenomenal.
You can get them at forty tons products dot com
as you can see on the screen forty tons Products
(38:26):
dot com and CT one oh one twenty. So that
CT one zero one two zero h is for your
guests for twenty percent off.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Oh excellent. Yeah, we'll make sure so ce T one
O one twenty in the referral code that'll get you
twenty percent off. And how many different skews do you
have available on the website.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
So for that particular product, since it's a direct to
consumer product, we have four. But then we also have
our products in California, which we have different strains. We
have eight quarters and habs that you can get at
dispensaries and it's you know, different strains depending on what's
going on. I believe right now we're on ease and
you can get it's a cereal milk and RS eleven.
But the and in New York we have the same thing.
(39:04):
We have four gram eighths and we have you know,
different strains that are out there.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
And if somebody wants to know which dispensary they can
find it, is there an easy way that they can
look that up. So we're at in California, California or
New York if we have a listen, yes, both sides.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
So actually New York. So that's I actually are are
working on that. I'm I'm literally working on getting a
store located on my new on my new website because
we are so multifaceted and we're switching software platforms. But
for right now in California, we're on ease, Okay, So
we're really focused on on on on developing that relationship
(39:36):
and then scaling out with dispensaries because as you know,
in California, a lot of people don't pay their bills,
So it's not even worth putting your stuff in a
dispensary if you're not even gonna get paid on it
here in California. So it's really about picking the right partnerships,
and we're in the process of doing that. New York.
We're in all the major dispensaries from turt Bros. Strained Stars,
Housing Works, there's a bunch of them, but much love
(39:59):
to them, and yeah, but we're really pushing hard our
direct to consumer product and we're in a ton of
smoke shops and CBD stores in the state of Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
Now again, you know, speaking out in Dallas, and there
was a lot of kids really understanding about you know,
at some point it would be federally legal, but obviously
Texas is very restrictive. From the story I just met, sure,
is this a.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Product that is legally be sold in Yes, it would,
And so when we're looking for wholesale and distribution for
this particular product all throughout the United States. We literally
just got everything all rocking and rolling. We launched about
ten days ago.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
Excellent.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
And so this is our direct to consumer play. Texas
is good, Georgia is good, Wisconsin is good. These are
places that are non REX states. We would love to
work with those states, especially places like Texas where there's
a big, you know, social justice component that's needed.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
Master Mentor's Live students. You heard it here first. This
is a product. You guys heard me talk about it.
How there are legitimate brands that you guys could help support,
promote white label, et cetera. Give them a call. Now,
where can people get a hold of you or the
brand or keep an eye on it if they want
to support it?
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Yeah, so every major social media platform is the same.
It's for zero t o ns brand. That's forty tons brand.
And then you can go to forty tons dot co
as our main website, and then our the products are
forty tons products dot com.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
Excellent. Now, before we leave, man, I want to make
sure I leave enough time to talk about this phenomenal
project that you semi launched. I love the fundamentals, I
love the story behind it, but in your own words,
tell me, tell me what that is, because I think
this is something I'd love for the audience to get
behind as well.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Yeah, So basically what we did was when the nft
ERA was going really heavy, you know, a couple of
years back, I came up with a concept and an
idea that I wanted to, you know, do something different
than just creating an ape or a tiger or a
pigeon or a bird. Like everybody was doing right, everyone
was you know, bord Apes was the big one, Blue chimps,
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whoever it was right. And I commissioned an artist named
Ryan Strauss and we worked an executive produced artwork on
individual prisoners. So I got the cannabis prisoner's picture. I
picked ten of them at the time, and we hand
drew them so as you can see, like this is
dose now, you know, Raphael Hernandez.
Speaker 4 (42:11):
I met Kevin Allen here. You got their federal rag number,
you got their LIFs there. This gentleman's there, he's got life.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
And Kevin's there for like some bullshit like he's just
a career. He got career criminals out and like like
you know, an ounce of weed got him life type thing. Unreal,
you know, Parker Coleman is doing sixty years, Mohammed Tai
here really good brother doing twenty five years. Edwin Ruby's
look for his book. It's coming out in the next
month under forty tons Publishing. And so all these guys,
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you know, have ungodly sentences. So I made an NFT
project seventeen hundred and ten NFTs right for seven ten
like oil. And the thought process behind it was at
the time eth was going for point two point three
eighth which is about two to three hundred USD at
the time, And so what I was thinking was, well,
how can we raise money for these guys, How can
we get our brand out there? How can we monetize
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off this booming NFT crypto thing but then still have
utility and like actually put it towards something good. So
the thought was, you know, making individual wallets for each
one of these prisoners, cold wallets, right. I hit them up,
ask them, who do you want me to give the
wallet two and the secret peak two? Or do you
want me to put it in a safe deposit box
and when you come home give it to you one
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or the other. And so if you take ten prisoners
divided by seventeen ten. It's approximately one hundred and seventy
individual NFTs. What's one seventy times three hundred bucks. You're
like close to thirty racks something like that, right, more? Yes,
I think even more? Right so, so yeah, because two
hundred would be sixty thousand, So yeah, like right around
fifty something thousand dollars. That's just in the first round
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of the NFT. That's not even resale. So half goes
to forty tons foundation. The other half goes to the prisoner.
So that's thirty thousand dollars of what some of the
value that each prisoner would have. So it was almost
like a donation investment for the NFT. But in addition
to that, I would connect you with the individual prisoner,
so there'd be one hundred and seventy new people that
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knew about your your situation, and then we would they
would write them and we would facilitate that through a
form where we would print out the letters, send it
on their behalf. And then now you get the physically,
So if you got the Pedro Moreno NFT, you got
connected with Pedro Moreno, and then we expanded on it,
and you know when the market ended up, you know,
(44:30):
going down. We ended up doing postcards. We ended up
reaching out to a company called Hemper. Hemper put up
ten thousand rolling trades just for a small logo on
the tray because they believed that no one should be
in prison for a plant. And so we repurposed the
art onto that and we give that as promo units.
And so it was just a really cool concept of
being able to raise money, make money, and also have
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a massive awareness campaign that people were still locked up
over the plant because one thing about crypto, crypto and cannabis,
there was a big intersection in there, and because you
had the Crypto Cannabis Club, you had a bunch of
other people, and so we wanted to be able to
kind of bring that crypto cannabis community together. And we
were this close. We did the solidity contract and everything,
and then the market took a shit and I ended
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up not putting it out.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
Well, I'm a firm believer that everything happens for a reason,
and I think the timing, for whatever reason, if it
was off, I love the fact that you still have
that set up. You've moved, You've pivoted a little bit. Yeah,
but I think that that's a project I think once
everything kind of shakes out with the NFT market, it'll,
as we saw with every other industry, it'll kind of
go up, it'll go down, and it'll kind of come back.
But I think that there's going to be a variation
(45:34):
of this that you're going to continue with down the line,
because it's a it's a really I mean, I've seen thousands,
literally thousands of different projects and it's like, all right, dude,
it's milf coin, and it's this coin. Literally there was
one that but nobody ever actually had a utility that
was tangible that you could say, all right, at least
this prisoner is going to get some love from the outside.
So that's a that's a phenomenal project. And if you guys,
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these these these trays are pretty dope. If you guys
just make a small donation of the foundation, just screens him,
screenshop me, we'll make sure you guys get one of
these anywhere any.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
Paid the costs of shipping right ten to fifteen bucks,
and we'll get you some postcards and some of these trades.
Speaker 4 (46:08):
That'd be really cool. Man. Well, I appreciate you coming
on the show. Anything else you want to share, any
other timelines or website, anything else we can kind of
help you promote. Do you have any other brands that
have supported you, guys you want to shout out?
Speaker 1 (46:18):
Oh man, Yeah, definitely. So two things. One, we have
what's called the Level Up Career Conference. The Level of
Career Conference is our flagship event program initiative. It doesn't
mean anything if you get somebody out of jail from
a life sentence and then they go right back to
prison because they don't get the education, the resources and
the tools to better themselves. And at the Level Up
(46:39):
Career Conference, that's what we do. We bring in all
the different brands we did, bring in all the companies
that are hiring. We do have an expungement clinic. We
have people speaking on stage. We get about a thousand
people that come out and it's pretty cool when we
do them all over the country. It's a small event.
It's a small event in the sense of a conference,
but it's a big event.
Speaker 4 (46:57):
I mean a thousand and still a pretty good nuffort
to hit. And when's the next one?
Speaker 1 (47:00):
So the next one we're working right now because we
are trying to find a venue. It's the only place
in the country that it's so hard to find a
venue is New York. But the next one will be
New York in the in the late in the mid
to late fall. But if we can't secure a venue
within the next two weeks, we'll probably do it in
the early spring in New York.
Speaker 4 (47:17):
Now, why New York is that a hotbed for.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
It's a hotbed for for for cannabis. There's a lot
of jobs that are that are coming out there. It
covers the tri state area, so you hit New Jersey,
New York, Connecticut, all those places in one place. We're
there and it's a place that the war on drugs
has hit pretty hard, so it's a perfect place to
do it. It's just you know, it's two hundred thousand
dollars for a venue in New York, whereas you know
(47:40):
in la you could get a venue for twenty grand
and it'll fit a thousand people.
Speaker 4 (47:44):
Yeah, So that's that's.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
That's that. And then as far as like other cool
little things you know, we got you know, we partner
with a lot of different people on a lot of
different collabse you know, Dutchy, you know, Big Shot out
to Duchy. They you know, did these cool little rolling
papers for us you know where, and and did that
as like just giveaways so that we can give stuff
away and promote the brand and says no one should
(48:06):
be in prison for cannabis on the on the on
the uh right here. Yeah. But one of the big
ones that I want to talk about today is Custom
Cones USA and day Savers. We have a partnership with
them called Cones for a Cause where ten percent of
the proceeds of those cones go to the forty Tons Foundation.
And so you know the team over at Custom Cones
and day Savers, they're huge, man, they're like a you know,
(48:26):
they're like a blazy Susan or a raw right, like
they're big, you know what I mean. And and so
they have this whole Cones for a Cause thing that
they do and that we are there like Cannabis Criminal
Justice charity that they're doing this with. And so that
box that's right there is for them and so you
can buy those boxes. They're they're they come with the cone,
they come with the what's the thing that goes in
(48:47):
the cone, the little stick or whatever that is, Yeah,
the filler thing, and then they're wrapped in chains. And
so it's really cool and so this is our way
of of uh, you know, bringing a message to you know,
everyday smoker.
Speaker 4 (49:00):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Man.
Speaker 4 (49:01):
Well, I know you're going to be talking to Chris
and Blue and Joe, and I know we're going to
be getting a little bit more involved with you at
future trade shows hopefully God and whatever we can do
to support you and the cos Man. I know I'm
on board. I know the fellows are on too, and
you actually have a company. You're doing shit while other
people just talk. So I appreciate you taking the time
and coming on the show and can't wait to have
you back by man.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
I appreciate it. Thank you so much, man, And just
wanted to tell you too, Man, I had a thorough time,
amazing time at the Master Mentors Live session that you
guys hosted like maybe three four weeks ago, and you
were a very big part of that and I really
liked it. And I'm big on mentorship, like I'm a
leader myself.
Speaker 4 (49:35):
I saw you were fully on board. I mean you
were I think you were on my bus. And yeah,
thank you for keeping the energy up with us. And
it's it's something that you know, I know, Blue and
Joe and Chris have been doing this for many years.
I think they put about sixty five thousand students through it.
Not everybody's a winner, not everybody shows up for all
the days, but you can always see, like the ones
that you're truly changing people's lives. This last one we
had people crying and oh yeah, and you can just see, like, man,
(49:57):
it feels good to finally be doing something, you know,
after all dirtyiness I had on Wall Street for twenty
three years. It's just good to be involved with something
that you can literally see people's lives changing. And I
know you feel the same way about what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
I do.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
I do, And I would love to come back and
have a conversation where I could talk to you about
financial fights, about some of those Wall Street stories and
some of those things, because I have a pretty decent
knowledge of a lot of that stuff and i'd love
to just.
Speaker 4 (50:20):
Oh definitely, we'll definitely wrap on it again. Man, I
can't wait to have you back. And I think i'd
i'd probably learned some stock tips of you as well.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Man, Yeah, yes, yes, definitely.
Speaker 4 (50:29):
Well you guys, that's a wrap for us. You know,
there's a whole army here. Then I wanted to think that.
You know, it's on the camera. It looks easier in front,
but there's a whole army that helps me put this
together every freaking week. I want to take them a
moment to thank Adrian Amy, Mary Mondo, Mikayla, Daniel Diego, Logan, Gary,
Carly Connor, Beach, marcelaar My man over Dout Bit Deck,
(50:50):
Ali Muffin's Ruby, Chris Frankino, Jennifer Erica and our newest
social media Zuru Jetta. Like I said, man, we've been growing.
That list keeps getting bigger, But I appreciate everyone of
you that makes this happen. And thank you for listening
to Financial Fridays here on iHeartRadio CT one on one.
I'm Tony K. You can always find me on Instagram
at the Insider Investor. Remember, keep that wallet height, keep
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I have somebody really special. This is somebody I've been
wanting to do a show with for a while now.
This man is the co founder and CEO of a
brand making a difference. This is a cause that's closed
not just to my heart, but if cannabis talk one
on one as well, because no one should be in
prison for a plant or a business that companies and
corporations are making billions off of, and this man is
(02:10):
making a difference. You guys, welcome to the show. The
COO co founder of forty Tons, my man, Anthony all
A Grady.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Thank you so much, man, appreciate you to.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Thank you so much for being here. Brother. You know,
I've heard your story kind of indirectly through the guys,
but I purposely have kind of not wanted to hear
the whole thing because I wanted to hear it directly
from you for the first time on the show, at
least my show. I know you've done the flagship show
here several times. You're a good front of the show.
I've seen it at our festivals, at our bus tours.
You've always supported us, and it's my honor to kind
(02:42):
of support this program and just the little ideas I've
been hearing from you. Man, you are making such an
impact on so many people that could use it. So welcome.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Well, thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Man,
I'm a big fan of the show, big fan of
Master Mentors, Live Your Financial Friday's Cannabis Talk one on one.
Are really doing an amazing job just here with community
and I'm an honored guest here.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Well, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Man.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Now for the audience that doesn't know who you are
or what forty tons is or you know, this is
a brand that has kind of built itself around social equity.
You heard me at the opening monologue kind of tell
you about like, you know, nobody should be in prison
for a plant, especially now when in over half the
states it's legal. And more importantly, can you imagine sitting
in prison right now for life nonviolent criminal, or even
(03:28):
for a period gosh, any period of time? I mean
one day is too many days, right, And you've now
got a phenomenal you know, just just a kind of
a hair raising story about your experiences. I know your
wife is also co founder, another gentleman that you helped
get out of prison for life. So tell me a
little bit about your story and how you got into
this industry and the vision and the inspiration behind it.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Sure, so it all started, you know, twenty something years back.
You know, my friend Corbain Cooper and I, you know,
we're legacy guys selling weed, right, and we were back then,
we were selling the Mexican compressed brick weed. Yeah, you know,
and that's how you got the forty tons. I don't
think anyone could sell forty tons of a chronic back then. No,
it wasn't even made. How do you think the whole
(04:13):
market produced that much? But but yeah, so that that's
kind of where it originally started. And then you know, unfortunately,
you know, over the years and with prohibition and with
the way you know, the laws are on this plant,
you know, lots of people got locked up, many black
and brown, and a lot of folks you know, caught
life sentences or quasi life sentences due to technicalities like
(04:34):
you know, having a two strikes and so Corraine ended
up getting a life sentence. And in twenty twenty when
we you know, when right at the beginning of the pandemic,
you know, we had a couple of opportunities. There was
a lot of organizations out there that were advocating on
his behalf, from you know, Last Prisoner Project to Freedom
Grow Life for pot can do, Clemency Project, Mission Green
(04:57):
and many more. And what was happening was was each
one of those organizations was kind of like working in
silo separately, right, And what we were what I thought,
because this is a friend of mine of twenty nine years,
why don't we bring everyone together, bring everything together, and
let's create a brand. Right, And so we created a brand.
This was Corvain, Loril and myself. We decided on phone calls.
(05:19):
It's ironic that this is a financial Friday because one
of the main things that Corvain and I would do
we would trade stocks from prison.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
No shit. Yeah, so he would, like you would basically
trade on his behalf. He'd call on the order. You'd
kind of strategize together exactly.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Because he's a great He'd be watching CNBC, you know
what I mean, because he was on the East Coast,
so he'd be watching CNBC at four or five in
the morning his time, and you know, just running the
plays and obviously you know it's secondhand information after the time, right,
but nonetheless, like after you watch over and over and
over and you read the Wall Street Journal and you're
talking with your guys, you become quasi good. Yeah, absolutely,
(05:53):
we run some loss some you know what I mean. Like,
you know, we took a couple hundred bucks and flipped
it up to quite a few thousand, gave it back,
brought it back again, you know. But during those phone calls,
we would have conversations about building something, and so we
got an opportunity to be able to do that, and
so we did. And you know, when it was asked
of me to you know, put together a brand, put together,
(06:15):
you know, a story, put together what it was, the
manufacturing partner at the time said, we'll do all the logistics,
back end stuff, but we're not going to build you
a brand.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
You have to go do that.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
So I spent the next three to four months trying
to figure out how to do that. And I worked
with a company called Media Jail, and Aaron and off
Taly donated their time and services and they helped build
what you now know as forty tons And so that
was the early early stages. And long story short, our
brand is about no one should be in prison for cannabis.
(06:45):
We try to make it not so sad, right, you know,
because we don't want to just talk about prison and
going to jail. We want to also talk about like
our products and what we're doing. But at the end
of the day, the sole reason for our brand and
the mission behind our brand is about out freeing the
cannabis prisoners and then when those prisoners get out, they're
given a second chance and help them level up.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
And you know, obviously, when you when you're watching traditional
mainstream media, there's two sides, and there's the side that
that's talking about you know, criminals or criminals, you still
lock them up. You're not getting criminals out, You're getting
people that have got caught up in a system that
have that are nonviolent offenders that are literally behind bars
just for cannabis. Is that accurate?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Exactly? Like, you know, many people are in jail right
now for cannabis while we're making billions of dollars right
So using the word criminal is tough for for folks
that are incarcerated for cannabis because it's like they're not criminals,
right and like, you know, even criminals right in the
in the typical sense of the world, should have the
ability to rehabilitate, right And unfortunately in this country, there
(07:51):
is no rehabilitation. And so when there's dispensaries on every corner,
and your children are able to buy weed while you're
sitting in jail for it. It kind of hurts the heart,
you know, And so it's like, what do you do?
And like imagine, you know, imagine you were in jail
for doing a TV show on financial literacy, right, but
(08:15):
there's other people out there doing shows on financial literacy.
But you went to jail for doing a show on
financial literacy because at the time that had happened, it
wasn't allowed.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Now, you know, I don't typically like to look into
I always say the front view, mayor is up bigger
for a reason than the rear view, because you want
to stay focused on what's in front of you. But
I think with you, it's important to understand the history
of of what your experience was with incarceration, why you
went away, how long, and then the journey that you
had to get your buddy out. Tell me about how
you guys ended up locked up.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah, so I mean, at the end of the day,
you know, stuff that we had did years ago came
back to haunt us. A childhood friend of ours, you
know what I mean, got in trouble and you know
it was a rap after that, and then you know,
This was years years ago. Like you know, I personally
hadn't even seen anyone for over seven years, and so
(09:05):
it was just a really unfortunate set of circumstances. And
what ended up happening was once once, you know, I
came home and I got back on my feet, and
you know, Corvan and I were making money with the
stocks and doing different things like that. We were we
were given some opportunities, right, and so those opportunities manifested
into what they are. Some did well, some didn't. Some
(09:26):
people had our best interests, some people did not have
our best interests. But at the end of the day,
we learned from all of that. And one thing about
me is I'm an entrepreneur to the core. I eat
what I kill, and I've been eating what I've killed
what I kill for twenty five years. So I fully
truly understand what it means to be an entrepreneur. I
understand what it means to be paid. Last, I understand
what it means to really build something. Right, driving uber
(09:49):
is not an entrepreneur. You're working for yourself, but that's
not an entrepreneur, right. Being an entrepreneur is when everything
rises and falls on you and you take care of
the system before you take care of yourself. And so
with that knowledge, I wanted to help build something that
had meaningful impact. And I don't have a million dollars.
I'm not highly capitalized. You know, talk about social equity, right,
(10:11):
we are social equity, but unfortunately in order to be
in this industry, you need to be capitalized. So what
could we do differently? That's cool, that's fun, that still
puts out good products, has a message, is different, looks different,
does things that are different. And so that's how we
came up with the concept for forty tons, what.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Was the total amount that you spent behind bors?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
So I did a total of all my tenure a
little less than five years total, but on that last
one it was I did two years in jail and
about a little slightly less two years on house arrest.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Now, your business partner, if I read correctly, he actually
was part in by Trump. Correct.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, he did nine years on a life sentence. And
if it wasn't for former President Donald Trump, he'd still
be sitting in jail right now. So you know, we
honor and are thankful for what he did for us.
You know, we don't get involved in the politics, good
or bad, We're we're appreciative and you know, we retake
the face value at what it is, you know, and
you'll never ever hear us bad mouthing Trump or saying anything.
(11:17):
And plus, you know, my family always used to tell me, like,
if you don't got nothing nice to say, just don't
say nothing. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
So, and on the politics side of it, So the
current administration, I know, when they first got in, it
was very big on we're going to decriminalize it. There
was talk about that as every politician does, right because
as I said on the show yesterday, I think they're
going for the stoner vote. They say that at the beginning,
hoping you'll forget at the end of the four years
and from Obama didn't do shit, you know, Trump did,
(11:42):
I think most in terms of especially pardoning and getting
these non violent guys out.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Not only did he do that, you know, and a
lot of people won't tell you this, but Trump is
a major major person with criminal justice reform with the
First Step Back. Yeah, lots of guys got out of
jail from the First Step Act and that was probably
some of the biggest legislation that went through the White
House to help prisoners, not just cannabis guys that were
(12:09):
getting fifty sixty years for selling an ounce of coke. Right,
things like that, like the First Step Act did a lot. So,
you know, left, right, conservative, liberal, Republican, Democrat. They all
have their faults, they do, you know what I mean,
each one's have it. You know, if you're fiscally conservative,
you know you're going to move to the right. If
you're more socially liberal, you're going to move to the left.
(12:30):
At the end of the day, I like to base
my politics on individual issues, absolutely, and cannabis is important,
and so was financial finance. Uh.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
In the current administration, there was some uh, there was
some news and a lot of hoorrah about the last
round that he did by then dead and but it
was it was like one hundred people, and it was
like if you have these these days, but there's still
literally millions of people locked up for the same infractions. Right,
So there was really nothing done.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Let me let me, let me, let me back up,
because I don't ever want to just say something's completely bullshit,
but things can be bullshit when it's like it'd be
like this whole floor if you mopped it spick and
span in this two feet. You can say you clean
the floor, but it's bullshit if the whole floor is
still there, you know what I'm saying. But but I
(13:19):
don't want to take away from the fact that that
part okay. So, you know, as it relates to overall
clemency's and pardons and things like that, you know, the
current administration is doing things towards that I personally think
that they could just be doing more right, especially for
you know, cannabis offenders. Right, like they did push the
(13:41):
whole thing. I don't believe they should be in prison
this that. Then they switched it to no one should
be in jail for smoking weed, right, then they switched
it to no one should be in jail for possessing weed.
But no one's in jail for those things. Right. They
may get arrested for them, but they're released. People don't
go to prison for.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Talking about prison time. And that's something they didn't exactly
And then you really look at it and it's like, dude,
why don't we just start with rescheduling it.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
You know.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
One of the things I've learned through the Master Mentor's
Live program is, as our great speaker Marcus, when I
was out in Dallas. I learned that, you know, he
really broke it down. And it's like, this government is
telling you that fentanyl, at meth and heroin and cocaine
is better for you, literally better for you than marijuana.
And it's just something that that blows my mind.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Man. It's a you know what it is. It's it's
it's what your show is based around. Yeah, it's finances.
Everything is to do with find Tony, you know, just
Chris over here in the corner. For me, I don't
even think that it's a reschedule, but just a deschedule.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Yeah, correct, if they're looking to put it on Schedule three,
which means you'd have to get it through a.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Pharmacy, dude. And here's the thing. Get that whole list
that I just described, from fentanyl to heroin to marijuana,
ox cond to I'm sorry, to cocaine to ox con.
What's not on any of that schedule is tobacco or alcohol.
Like that's not even on the fronting list, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
That's because of the lobby, right, so you know, in
one hundred years will probably be in the same position
as alcohol and tobacco is. But we're in the infant stages.
And you know, the first five to ten years of
prohibition with alcohol was probably gnarly, and it was in
a time when there was no technology, and it was
in the twenties and thirties, and so evolution has to
catch up to where we're at. You know, I'll say
(15:17):
this one percent agree with with with Chris about descheduling
and not rescheduling, But I think it has more to
do with the infrastructure that's been put in place to
decriminalize this plan, to lock people up, to get the
tax money from those things, to pay for all of
the different agencies to police it all. Like, that's a
(15:39):
whole infrastructure. If you're gonna if you're gonna disrupt that,
you have to be able to figure out how to
resupplement those things. So then that way there's not a
loss on that side, because if you were gonna lose,
you're gonna fight no matter what, even if what you're
fighting for is wrong. It's what you believe in and
you're gonna fight to the death for because it's it's you.
So we have to put ourselves in the position of
(16:00):
chess players, and like, how can we all win and
not just checkmate the other side.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Absolutely absolutely, you guys, we're gonna take a break here.
We're here with Anthony from forty Tonks. When we come back,
I'm going to ask him the Financial Friday five and
we're going to get into the economics and business of
what he's doing and how you can learn of how
he took his experiences, his passion for the plant and
is now not only making money when it's with it,
but having an impact. We'll be right back here on
(16:24):
Financial Friday.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
We'll be right back with the Financial Friday five on
Cannabis Talk one on one's Financial Fridays with the Insider
Investor Tony K. Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one on
one's Financial Fridays with the Insider Investor Tony K. It's
(16:46):
now time for the Financial Friday five and you guys.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
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(17:09):
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back here with Anthony Allegrady from forty Tons, a social
equity brand built around getting prisoners out that are there
for non criminal activity that revolved around the plant. I mean, basically,
(17:31):
they're in prison because of a plant accord, an industry
that's being made legal clear across the country, and corporations
for making billions offut before I go into the cunty
Friday five talking about Freddie, do you feel like right
now the average person that's getting caught up in the
game that they have adequate legal representation. I see so
many of these kids get caught up with a public
(17:53):
defenders who just jam these deals down these kids' throat.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yeah, that's a great point. I don't think that they
have access. That there's a problem with access in this country.
To the core on everything, social equity is about access.
Lending is about access, right, knowledge is about access, and
so in these marginalized communities, typically ones that are poor,
and you know a lot of them black brown minorities.
(18:19):
These marginalized communities don't have access, and so legal representation
is just as important. And not only that, not only
just having access, but then even having access to good lawyers,
so even paid attorneys that aren't going to rob you
right right.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Absolutely having a network that you can rely on, I
think is really important. That's one of the things we
pride ourselves on. You know, we always talk about master
mentors live. But the reason I do talk about that
a lot isn't just because I'm involved with it, but
it's because I do believe that mentors can make a
world of difference. I feel like every incarcerated person I've
ever had on the show or as a friend will
always tell me, man if I had the right mentors
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early on, even in the right game, I would have
gotten further, I would have done better, I would have
avoided certain pitfalls. Accept So I that's something that I
that I have a passion for us well. And this
is a story that I actually haven't I don't think
I've shared on air. Not too many people know, but
about two years ago, dude, I ended up with the
double fell and it had never been arrested in my life.
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And I would travel to Texas to speak about once
a month. I would have different events and networking groups
out there, and I would always bring like, you know,
these bad gummies or chocolate bars for my buddies that
you know, Texas is very very restrictive, sticking in my
check in, YadA, YadA YadA. One time I get there,
the suber driver picks me up really nice, attractive older lady,
probably in her mid sixties, and we get to talking
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and she says, thank you for this great conversation. You know,
I have stage four terminal cancer. I'm usually zoked out
on oxies, et cetera. But I'm having a good week
and I'm just doing this to have conversations and get out.
So I asked her what she does for her pain,
and she says, you know, I wish I had access
to edibles because when I was in New York, I
went to this place called she called it something meant,
she didn't even say med Men's. He goes something mad,
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I said, Medman. She goes, yeah, I look like an
apple store. So a long story longer. She when she
dropped me off. I reach into my luggage. I give
her like three or four bars. She profusely thanks me.
She says, let me pay you. I said, now, I
don't want your money. He goes, well, next time you
come in, hit me up. It'd be an honor to
just pick you up for free. I said, I'll take
you up next time I come in. Before I come in,
I text her, she goes, you know, do you mind
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if I sell you some That really helped with my nausea,
it'd help with my chemo. Just bring me some more.
So sells me a couple hundred bucks. I bring up
the chocolate bar, show the receipt. It's non profit. I
go to the dispensary to buy it. It's not my business.
I don't sell her or promote it any kind of
products like that. And I do that two or three trips.
Then next time she's like, hey, can I send you
more money. Some of my girlfriends and chemo, yeah, I
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gave them some, and now you know they want help.
So I'm like muling back and for five six hundred
bucks worth the chocolate bars. This next time I go
into town, I call her up. She does an answer.
I figure she's having a bad day. I get my
own over home, give out the remaining chocolate bars. I
save her two three bags just in case she calls
me the last second. And I'm going through the airport
at Dallas Fort Worth and like an idiot, I threw
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my wallet inside my checking luggage and I go to
go through security and I'd be like, shit, I don't
have my wallet. They said, oh, no problem, pull up
your Facebook. They went through some secondary questions. They said, Okay,
we know who you are. Now you can go in.
But you know, they did a secondary inspection of my
carry on bag and I had this bag of gummies
with a federal and state tax stamp that they that
they arrested me for. I go into Terren County jail
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for three days and I'm talking to some of the
other ud like damn, man, you're locked up for a
double felony because out of vappen in Texas, this is
considered a felony. Just in this quantity, a vape pen
by itself considered a felony. So now I'm locked up,
no bail warrant because it's a double felony. Blah blah blah.
It takes three days after I finally get let out.
The ladies like, what did you get caught for it?
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I said this there she goes, yeah, you've never been arrested.
I said, no, this was the first time I've let
anybody out just on their own recognizance, you know, for
a double felony. But sorry. She was almost apologetic. You
know the cops are some of the cops are apologetic,
blah blah blah. But I learned a lot. And while
I was in there, I realized, Man, even once I
got the piece of paper that I was going out,
they still kept me in there for eighteen more hours.
Come to find out, they get paid three hundred and
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thirty dollars from the state every time you're in there,
for every twenty four hours. So, you know, Texas in
every other state, I think where we where Clinton found
You know, Clinton's era really fed up was dude. It
became incarceration for monetization. They privatized prisons, which, if you
understand businesses and capitalism, if you have a hotel room
with a thousand rooms in it, you got to keep
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him filled up, to pay the bills, to pay the
security guards, to pay all this stuff. And that's really
where I discovered a man being in there lock up,
there'd be this kid that was eighteen years old begging
his mom for two hundred bucks bail. I probably bailed
out like six kids just be I just felt sorry
for him. One kid was like driving to his McDonald's job.
They pulled him over for a busted tailight at two
pm in the afternoon. Who gets pulled over for that?
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Because he's eighteen and there's a seventeen year old the car,
they have the right to search him because he had
a bottle of xanax with his mom's name on it
in his mom's car, with the prescription bottle that he's
driving his mom's to McDonald's job. He gets a pulled
over felony. They arrest all the kids in the car,
all a gang activity because you have other kids with you.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Just these obscure laws that the goodness.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
So these kids are getting caught up for a joint
kid can't even get a job at McDonald's. You know,
the DA is gonna just probably jam down some kind
of probationary shit. They're gonna fail over some other bullshits,
and now you're stuck in the system. That's where I
really understood. Man. It's easy to judge it from the
outside and to say, oh, you know, these are criminals anyway,
But I really saw the pain and damage that the
system can do. And like you said, they there was
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more drug dealers being drug deals being done in that
court room, in that jail room, you know, or when
I was in my little cubes that I've ever seen
on any street corner. You know, there's tons being moved
in there, no pun intended.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Right, No, that's that's the issue, man. You know, these
are systemic problems at scale, and you know, we're not
going to solve anything overnight. But I mean, if we
can put social good back into the community, then that's
what we're here to do at forty tons, is you know,
do social good help folks and make a profit off
of what we help build.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Yeah, yeah, you know. And to kind of wrap up
that story, just thinking back right now, I had, you know,
spent fifteen twenty thousand on attorneys, took two and a
half years of me flying back and forth just to
get them all dismissed and drop down to one misdemeanor.
But when you really think about it, it's like most
kids don't have that No, that's you know, or they
missed one court date. Now you're back to a fellow
me and then and then you're just caught up in
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the system. So what I want to I want to
get into the financials of what you guys are doing
and to kind of segue into that, I'd love to
kind of ask you the financial Friday five. This is
a This is a round of questions I ask every
guest that comes on the show because I find that
entrepreneurs always have great stories that can inspire others on
how to make money. The first question I got for you,
Anthony Cooo of forty tons, is what was the best
investment you've ever made?
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Man, I got I probably take the cake for the
best investment that's ever been.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
On your show, you personally investing in yourself.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
No, I'm going to tell you what the what the
investment was. But I don't think that anyone is going
to be able to be kick wait for this one.
So and maybe people have made more money. So, but
but the percentage multiplier is where I think as where
I'm winning. So a buddy of mine was investing in
penny stocks and doing little things like this, and you know,
Penny stocks are bullshit, and everyone knows, you know the
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pink sheets. Maybe you know you ten ex your money, right,
so you buy one hundred dollars worth and maybe you
get to you know, a thousand bucks, and if you
ten x, that's great if you're lucky, I mean, if
you're lucky. So I bought some penny stocks that were
at point zero zero zero one of a percent worth
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of penny stocks. I bought one hundred dollars worth. That
was a million shares. That son of a gun stock
went from point zero zero zero one two nine cents.
Oh shit, Now I sold seventy five percent of it
when it got to twenty x. So I cashed out
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for two grand on one hundred dollars investment, seventy five
percent of it because I didn't think it was gonna
keep going right like that? I mean, dude, who the
hell makes you know?
Speaker 2 (25:59):
What?
Speaker 4 (25:59):
I mean? That's a that's a that's a twenty create
four decimal move points and a nine time multiplier.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Like, come on, like it doesn't get better than that, right, Okay,
I keep twenty five percent of it. This fucker keeps going. Now,
had I cashed out at the peak, I would have
flipped my one hundred dollars into ninety one thousand dollars.
I ended up cashing out at eighteen thousand, five hundred bucks.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Hey, you know what, I'm still I will tell you
a percentage return that definitely has the highest rate of return.
And I will tell you I love the fact that
you shared that story because it makes for a great point.
And this is what I think a lot of kids
and adults. What I know, I don't even know why
I say kids because it's my own friends that don't
listen to me. Is especially during the crypto boom, and
these kids would buy these alt shit coins and it
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would move one decimal point. The one thousand dollars would
be one hundred thousand. I have one hundred. I'm like,
do you have one hundred? No, you can't go buy
a car right now. First sell it, first, collect your winnings,
and then at least take what you put in or
a multiple like you did. And and yeah, you can
look back in the river mirrors a I should have done.
But for every one of those I should have would
have It's fuck.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
I should have sold it, would have had it I
still made eighteen thousand and five. Well, of that story, too,
is make your money work for you, make it exactly.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
You take your profit off the table.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah, I have, I have a I have a flip.
Side of that story that's even more fucked up is
my buddy who told me to do it, purchased one
thousand dollars worth of it, wow, and he sold it
at two x and made made a thousand. Because he
didn't think it was like these things don't move like that.
He would have made nine hundred and ten thousand dollars.
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To this day, he's still sick over it. You know,
it's a once in a lifetime opportunity. These things don't
happen I take.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
I give really good advice, but I don't take my
own advice. And I was guilty the same thing that
we have. This shitty friend of mine, he invented his
coin called Moby, and everybody's amped up on it, and
I was getting paid consulting fees in it. So my
thirty thousand tens three hundred and seventy five thousand, like
a idiot, I didn't even take my thirty racks out,
thinking it's gonna be worth millions, and I bought into
the utility and all the bullshit of it, and sure enough,
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it's not even worth a fucking penny. So that's not
that's my worst decision, right. Moral of the story, Dony
needs to listen to himself more. Question number two on
the Financial Friday five is what is the worst investment
that you've ever made? Now, this could be a business
or a person.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Well, I definitely don't want to blast anybody in terms
of people, but I'll keep it to the financials. Ironically,
and this one's boring, but ironically, like I put in,
you know, a couple grand into the cannabis stocks some
years back, and I've just lost parent company and some
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other penny one USMJ, which was some bullshit, but I
thought that it was gonna, you know, you throw a
couple hundred dollars here, a couple of hundred dollars there,
if it's it's a long shot. But I invested a
few thousand and I lost.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
You really are traded. I love that. And I don't
know if Chris heard the story too, but I'm still
I'm still laughing at your story of trading stocks from
prison with.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
We were doing options, we were doing the Spider, we
were doing the spy five hundreds.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Yeah, and then and then they're they're probably listening to
your ship too on security, be like, oh, maybe he
knows something. They're probably buying it in the background.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Yeah, it was cool, dude, we we I got a
couple of those conversations recorded, and Corvane and I laugh
at it all the time.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
We take it.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
But he got greedy and was like, we gotta do this,
We got to do that, and I'm like, no, no,
we don't. And then we did what he said and
then we lost big on it. But then you know,
he'd also have wins too, so it was fun. It
was fun, but it was just, you know, we were
behind the eight ball because I mean, dude, we're calling
from prison, and you.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Know, yeah, I think that's probably a good spot too.
You know, they, like you said, your buddy is sitting
there watching CNBC probably for hours on end, so he's
soaking up that knowledge. One of the crazier stories that
I have these two stripper sisters in Texas that I
got to become friendly with. And this girl had a
better portfolio than anybody I'd ever seen, and she turned
like one hundred and fifty thousand into almost eight hundred thousand,
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and I said, where do you get all this? She goes,
do you know, We're in Dallas's. There's big money, but
there's big players there, and she would get her best
stock tips from these CEOs And it's probably inside of trading,
but I guess it's kind of gets negated inside of
strip club.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I guess so as he doesn't hang out there, right,
you know what I mean? So, so yeah, that was
you know, I lost.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
I lost that.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I also lost a big time. I invested in a
really nice house in Menifee in two thousand and six,
put in hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of shit
because I was bawling at the time. I go to
jail in two thousand and seven. Uh, and then the
market crash in two thousand and eight and I had
to sell it, and I.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
This long time.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
I paid five hundred for that fucking house. I put
in like one hundred and fifty two and a grant.
You know. The bucker who got it got it for
one ninety two. Wow, did I have forty thousand worth
of palm trees? I had like thirty thousand worth of
bottlenosed brick backyard, and some fucker got got it for
one hundred and ninety two thousand.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Dollars community now it's seven figures. I haven't even checked out,
you know.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
But but but they got it at that right after
you know, like it went into short cell and all that.
So that was probably a shitty investment too.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
You learn from it though, right Oh, I learned it.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
You know, there is no losses, just lessons, good man,
you know what I mean. You know, you get accidental
PhDs and stuff that you don't need until you need
them again.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Question number three, brothers, what is the best present you've
ever bought yourself?
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
The best presdent I ever bought myself was a trip
to Peru.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Okay, this was solo with your wife.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
This was this was with a retreat, so very similar
to like a Master Mentors but not quite like that,
but very similar. That we hike Rainbow Mountain, Machu Pichu,
helped the kids in the hospital Amazon all that, and
I thought, and you know, I think travel is some
of the best experiences that you can give somebody, yourself
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and others, because you get to learn so much about
other people. And then when you do things in these
foreign countries that you know, you go to these remarkable
wonders of the world, like Machu Picchu. In different places
like that, you just learn so much. You deal with
different people, you become worldly. You figure out how you
can work with other people. And I think, you know,
one of my superhero traits is the ability to you know,
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be in multiple environments. Yeah, and I think you get
that from traveling.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
This philanthropic edge that you have. You know, you mentioned
you were and prove and helping people of the Porpio.
Was this something that was in you before you got incarcerated?
Did you kind of kind of like when I said,
I came out, you know, I kind of really had
an appreciation for the suffering through that.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
So the second time that I went to prison in
two thousand and seven over cannabis stuff that was on
the money side of it, but just you know, cannabis
type things, I said to myself and I was, you know,
I'm not a big religious person, but I am spiritual.
And you know, you pray, you know, to God when
you're in like bad positions a lot, and it's just part,
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you know, part of your evolution of your spirituality. And
I said to myself that I was going to give
myself a life sentence to community service. If I made
it through this, and when I got out, I built
a huge charity called the Jump for Joy Foundation. I
helped thousands of kids become healthy fit. I partnered with
the NBA, NFL, all sorts of stuff, you can look
it up. And I just always had this thing of like,
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I just like helping folks, and I like being able
to make a living off of what I like doing.
You know what I mean? And what I like doing
is helping folks and whatever the whatever the help is
that I'm passionate about. Now I'm passionate about, you know,
in cannabis, criminal justice, whereas before I was passionate about,
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you know, ending childhood ob city.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
Question number four is what's it? Question number four is
what is the best present you've bought someone else bought
or given goodbye?
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Either? I would say the best prayer and I ever
gave was to my wife. I gave her three beautiful children.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Okay, I like that.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Boys and girls, two boys, one girl, two older boys,
younger girl. How old is your oldest twenty three? What
line of works he doing? He's he works in retail.
He's a retail guy. He's he's a great kid, you know,
goes to church. He's just a really good good kid.
My middle boy, who's who just turned twenty a couple
of days ago, is is a cybersecurity nice analyst, works
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from home, has a five figure investment account, crushing it good.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Yeah, proud Papa, moment that super proud.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
I got great kids.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Man.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
My oldest is just a really good human being. My
middle child is a super entrepreneur, hustler. And then my
daughter who's eleven, is just a little leader that runs everybody.
The princess, she's a she's a spicy princess.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Alright, here's the queen. Hello. Last question is if you
could buy what? This is the queen that got the
best president ever.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Question number five is if you could buy one thing
and money is not an object? What would that be?
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Man?
Speaker 1 (35:06):
If I could buy one thing and money was not
an object, what would it be? It would be? So
this is gonna sound cheesy, but I think if and
probably everyone says this, but if you did this, then
everything else will will come into abundance. But I guess
I would. I would literally get rid of or not
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get rid of, but I would How do I say this.
I don't want to say world peach, but I would.
I would. I would end all of the fighting amongst
humans needless suffering, the needless suffering, right, And so I
think if you do that, everything else becomes abundant after that.
Like I wouldn't just say well, if I could, I'd
buy an island or I do you know, I get that,
(35:49):
like that's so superficial, But I think like if we
if we ended negative fighting amongst humans at the government levels, yeah,
we would, and the trickle down effect of positivity with amos.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Yeah, I think the only way to do that was
your movement profit for more, which is pure impossible.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
So would you like to use that perfect and you'd
have to destroy the world over it. Hope that whatever
the new like organism is doesn't doesn't get the loots.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
Excellent, man, Well that thank you for putting putting up
without The reason I asked those questions is you'd be
surprised the little nuggets to give out and inspires other
people to move something specials maybe make a smart move
with their money. We're going to take a break care
with Anthony. When we come back, I want to hear
more about the brand and I want to tell you
guys about this amazing projects put together, the fundamentals of it,
why it got launched, why it didn't get launched, because
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I think you'll learn a lot about We'll be right
back here on Financial Fighters.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
We'll be right back with more Financial Fridays with the
Inside Investor Tony k. Make sure you follow Tony at
the Insider Investor. Welcome back to Cannabis Talk, one on
one's Financial Fridays with the Inside Investor Tony Ka. Make
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sure you like, follow and subscribe to the show.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
Now you just heard us talk about the power of mentors.
You guys. Master Mentors Live is coming to a city
near you. If you're looking on YouTube right now, look
at the website mastermenforslive dot com. We're in about twenty
two cities this year. Ladies and gentlemen, We're coming to
a town near you. This is a free, educational, ninety
minute workshop if you want to learn how to grow
the plan, how to sell the plan, how to have
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a media company like we do. All the thousands of
ancillary businesses in the fastest growing industry in the United States.
Gift not the world Right now, master Mentors Live is
coming to a city near you. Give them a call,
check out the website, look at a state, click the
link and we'll be right there in your neighborhood. We're
now back here on twentas to Fridays with Anthony Grady,
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the COO co founder of forty tons. This is a
brand that I would happily endorse. Now, let me tell
me a little bit about the products from you guys.
First call offer all for the sales side. How many
skews you got where people can find it?
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Yeah? Awesome. Well, what you have in your hand is
actually a new direct to consumer product. It's a partnership
with Mini grown out of Minnesota. These are our hemp
derived Delta nine gummies. They're phenomenal. That one is roopier.
We have mango orange, sour lemonade and mohito. They're phenomenal.
You can get them at forty tons products dot com
as you can see on the screen forty tons Products
(38:26):
dot com and CT one oh one twenty. So that
CT one zero one two zero h is for your
guests for twenty percent off.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Oh excellent. Yeah, we'll make sure so ce T one
O one twenty in the referral code that'll get you
twenty percent off. And how many different skews do you
have available on the website.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
So for that particular product, since it's a direct to
consumer product, we have four. But then we also have
our products in California, which we have different strains. We
have eight quarters and habs that you can get at
dispensaries and it's you know, different strains depending on what's
going on. I believe right now we're on ease and
you can get it's a cereal milk and RS eleven.
But the and in New York we have the same thing.
(39:04):
We have four gram eighths and we have you know,
different strains that are out there.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
And if somebody wants to know which dispensary they can
find it, is there an easy way that they can
look that up. So we're at in California, California or
New York if we have a listen, yes, both sides.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
So actually New York. So that's I actually are are
working on that. I'm I'm literally working on getting a
store located on my new on my new website because
we are so multifaceted and we're switching software platforms. But
for right now in California, we're on ease, Okay, So
we're really focused on on on on developing that relationship
(39:36):
and then scaling out with dispensaries because as you know,
in California, a lot of people don't pay their bills,
So it's not even worth putting your stuff in a
dispensary if you're not even gonna get paid on it
here in California. So it's really about picking the right partnerships,
and we're in the process of doing that. New York.
We're in all the major dispensaries from turt Bros. Strained Stars,
Housing Works, there's a bunch of them, but much love
(39:59):
to them, and yeah, but we're really pushing hard our
direct to consumer product and we're in a ton of
smoke shops and CBD stores in the state of Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
Now again, you know, speaking out in Dallas, and there
was a lot of kids really understanding about you know,
at some point it would be federally legal, but obviously
Texas is very restrictive. From the story I just met, sure,
is this a.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Product that is legally be sold in Yes, it would,
And so when we're looking for wholesale and distribution for
this particular product all throughout the United States. We literally
just got everything all rocking and rolling. We launched about
ten days ago.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
Excellent.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
And so this is our direct to consumer play. Texas
is good, Georgia is good, Wisconsin is good. These are
places that are non REX states. We would love to
work with those states, especially places like Texas where there's
a big, you know, social justice component that's needed.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
Master Mentor's Live students. You heard it here first. This
is a product. You guys heard me talk about it.
How there are legitimate brands that you guys could help support,
promote white label, et cetera. Give them a call. Now,
where can people get a hold of you or the
brand or keep an eye on it if they want
to support it?
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Yeah, so every major social media platform is the same.
It's for zero t o ns brand. That's forty tons brand.
And then you can go to forty tons dot co
as our main website, and then our the products are
forty tons products dot com.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
Excellent. Now, before we leave, man, I want to make
sure I leave enough time to talk about this phenomenal
project that you semi launched. I love the fundamentals, I
love the story behind it, but in your own words,
tell me, tell me what that is, because I think
this is something I'd love for the audience to get
behind as well.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Yeah, So basically what we did was when the nft
ERA was going really heavy, you know, a couple of
years back, I came up with a concept and an
idea that I wanted to, you know, do something different
than just creating an ape or a tiger or a
pigeon or a bird. Like everybody was doing right, everyone
was you know, bord Apes was the big one, Blue chimps,
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whoever it was right. And I commissioned an artist named
Ryan Strauss and we worked an executive produced artwork on
individual prisoners. So I got the cannabis prisoner's picture. I
picked ten of them at the time, and we hand
drew them so as you can see, like this is
dose now, you know, Raphael Hernandez.
Speaker 4 (42:11):
I met Kevin Allen here. You got their federal rag number,
you got their LIFs there. This gentleman's there, he's got life.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
And Kevin's there for like some bullshit like he's just
a career. He got career criminals out and like like
you know, an ounce of weed got him life type thing. Unreal,
you know, Parker Coleman is doing sixty years, Mohammed Tai
here really good brother doing twenty five years. Edwin Ruby's
look for his book. It's coming out in the next
month under forty tons Publishing. And so all these guys,
(42:40):
you know, have ungodly sentences. So I made an NFT
project seventeen hundred and ten NFTs right for seven ten
like oil. And the thought process behind it was at
the time eth was going for point two point three
eighth which is about two to three hundred USD at
the time, And so what I was thinking was, well,
how can we raise money for these guys, How can
we get our brand out there? How can we monetize
(43:00):
off this booming NFT crypto thing but then still have
utility and like actually put it towards something good. So
the thought was, you know, making individual wallets for each
one of these prisoners, cold wallets, right. I hit them up,
ask them, who do you want me to give the
wallet two and the secret peak two? Or do you
want me to put it in a safe deposit box
and when you come home give it to you one
(43:21):
or the other. And so if you take ten prisoners
divided by seventeen ten. It's approximately one hundred and seventy
individual NFTs. What's one seventy times three hundred bucks. You're
like close to thirty racks something like that, right, more? Yes,
I think even more? Right so, so yeah, because two
hundred would be sixty thousand, So yeah, like right around
fifty something thousand dollars. That's just in the first round
(43:45):
of the NFT. That's not even resale. So half goes
to forty tons foundation. The other half goes to the prisoner.
So that's thirty thousand dollars of what some of the
value that each prisoner would have. So it was almost
like a donation investment for the NFT. But in addition
to that, I would connect you with the individual prisoner,
so there'd be one hundred and seventy new people that
(44:07):
knew about your your situation, and then we would they
would write them and we would facilitate that through a
form where we would print out the letters, send it
on their behalf. And then now you get the physically,
So if you got the Pedro Moreno NFT, you got
connected with Pedro Moreno, and then we expanded on it,
and you know when the market ended up, you know,
(44:30):
going down. We ended up doing postcards. We ended up
reaching out to a company called Hemper. Hemper put up
ten thousand rolling trades just for a small logo on
the tray because they believed that no one should be
in prison for a plant. And so we repurposed the
art onto that and we give that as promo units.
And so it was just a really cool concept of
being able to raise money, make money, and also have
(44:52):
a massive awareness campaign that people were still locked up
over the plant because one thing about crypto, crypto and cannabis,
there was a big intersection in there, and because you
had the Crypto Cannabis Club, you had a bunch of
other people, and so we wanted to be able to
kind of bring that crypto cannabis community together. And we
were this close. We did the solidity contract and everything,
and then the market took a shit and I ended
(45:13):
up not putting it out.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
Well, I'm a firm believer that everything happens for a reason,
and I think the timing, for whatever reason, if it
was off, I love the fact that you still have
that set up. You've moved, You've pivoted a little bit. Yeah,
but I think that that's a project I think once
everything kind of shakes out with the NFT market, it'll,
as we saw with every other industry, it'll kind of
go up, it'll go down, and it'll kind of come back.
But I think that there's going to be a variation
(45:34):
of this that you're going to continue with down the line,
because it's a it's a really I mean, I've seen thousands,
literally thousands of different projects and it's like, all right, dude,
it's milf coin, and it's this coin. Literally there was
one that but nobody ever actually had a utility that
was tangible that you could say, all right, at least
this prisoner is going to get some love from the outside.
So that's a that's a phenomenal project. And if you guys,
(45:54):
these these these trays are pretty dope. If you guys
just make a small donation of the foundation, just screens him,
screenshop me, we'll make sure you guys get one of
these anywhere any.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
Paid the costs of shipping right ten to fifteen bucks,
and we'll get you some postcards and some of these trades.
Speaker 4 (46:08):
That'd be really cool. Man. Well, I appreciate you coming
on the show. Anything else you want to share, any
other timelines or website, anything else we can kind of
help you promote. Do you have any other brands that
have supported you, guys you want to shout out?
Speaker 1 (46:18):
Oh man, Yeah, definitely. So two things. One, we have
what's called the Level Up Career Conference. The Level of
Career Conference is our flagship event program initiative. It doesn't
mean anything if you get somebody out of jail from
a life sentence and then they go right back to
prison because they don't get the education, the resources and
the tools to better themselves. And at the Level Up
(46:39):
Career Conference, that's what we do. We bring in all
the different brands we did, bring in all the companies
that are hiring. We do have an expungement clinic. We
have people speaking on stage. We get about a thousand
people that come out and it's pretty cool when we
do them all over the country. It's a small event.
It's a small event in the sense of a conference,
but it's a big event.
Speaker 4 (46:57):
I mean a thousand and still a pretty good nuffort
to hit. And when's the next one?
Speaker 1 (47:00):
So the next one we're working right now because we
are trying to find a venue. It's the only place
in the country that it's so hard to find a
venue is New York. But the next one will be
New York in the in the late in the mid
to late fall. But if we can't secure a venue
within the next two weeks, we'll probably do it in
the early spring in New York.
Speaker 4 (47:17):
Now, why New York is that a hotbed for.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
It's a hotbed for for for cannabis. There's a lot
of jobs that are that are coming out there. It
covers the tri state area, so you hit New Jersey,
New York, Connecticut, all those places in one place. We're
there and it's a place that the war on drugs
has hit pretty hard, so it's a perfect place to
do it. It's just you know, it's two hundred thousand
dollars for a venue in New York, whereas you know
(47:40):
in la you could get a venue for twenty grand
and it'll fit a thousand people.
Speaker 4 (47:44):
Yeah, So that's that's.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
That's that. And then as far as like other cool
little things you know, we got you know, we partner
with a lot of different people on a lot of
different collabse you know, Dutchy, you know, Big Shot out
to Duchy. They you know, did these cool little rolling
papers for us you know where, and and did that
as like just giveaways so that we can give stuff
away and promote the brand and says no one should
(48:06):
be in prison for cannabis on the on the on
the uh right here. Yeah. But one of the big
ones that I want to talk about today is Custom
Cones USA and day Savers. We have a partnership with
them called Cones for a Cause where ten percent of
the proceeds of those cones go to the forty Tons Foundation.
And so you know the team over at Custom Cones
and day Savers, they're huge, man, they're like a you know,
(48:26):
they're like a blazy Susan or a raw right, like
they're big, you know what I mean. And and so
they have this whole Cones for a Cause thing that
they do and that we are there like Cannabis Criminal
Justice charity that they're doing this with. And so that
box that's right there is for them and so you
can buy those boxes. They're they're they come with the cone,
they come with the what's the thing that goes in
(48:47):
the cone, the little stick or whatever that is, Yeah,
the filler thing, and then they're wrapped in chains. And
so it's really cool and so this is our way
of of uh, you know, bringing a message to you know,
everyday smoker.
Speaker 4 (49:00):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Man.
Speaker 4 (49:01):
Well, I know you're going to be talking to Chris
and Blue and Joe, and I know we're going to
be getting a little bit more involved with you at
future trade shows hopefully God and whatever we can do
to support you and the cos Man. I know I'm
on board. I know the fellows are on too, and
you actually have a company. You're doing shit while other
people just talk. So I appreciate you taking the time
and coming on the show and can't wait to have
you back by man.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
I appreciate it. Thank you so much, man, And just
wanted to tell you too, Man, I had a thorough time,
amazing time at the Master Mentors Live session that you
guys hosted like maybe three four weeks ago, and you
were a very big part of that and I really
liked it. And I'm big on mentorship, like I'm a
leader myself.
Speaker 4 (49:35):
I saw you were fully on board. I mean you
were I think you were on my bus. And yeah,
thank you for keeping the energy up with us. And
it's it's something that you know, I know, Blue and
Joe and Chris have been doing this for many years.
I think they put about sixty five thousand students through it.
Not everybody's a winner, not everybody shows up for all
the days, but you can always see, like the ones
that you're truly changing people's lives. This last one we
had people crying and oh yeah, and you can just see, like, man,
(49:57):
it feels good to finally be doing something, you know,
after all dirtyiness I had on Wall Street for twenty
three years. It's just good to be involved with something
that you can literally see people's lives changing. And I
know you feel the same way about what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
I do.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
I do, And I would love to come back and
have a conversation where I could talk to you about
financial fights, about some of those Wall Street stories and
some of those things, because I have a pretty decent
knowledge of a lot of that stuff and i'd love
to just.
Speaker 4 (50:20):
Oh definitely, we'll definitely wrap on it again. Man, I
can't wait to have you back. And I think i'd
i'd probably learned some stock tips of you as well.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Man, Yeah, yes, yes, definitely.
Speaker 4 (50:29):
Well you guys, that's a wrap for us. You know,
there's a whole army here. Then I wanted to think that.
You know, it's on the camera. It looks easier in front,
but there's a whole army that helps me put this
together every freaking week. I want to take them a
moment to thank Adrian Amy, Mary Mondo, Mikayla, Daniel Diego, Logan, Gary,
Carly Connor, Beach, marcelaar My man over Dout Bit Deck,
(50:50):
Ali Muffin's Ruby, Chris Frankino, Jennifer Erica and our newest
social media Zuru Jetta. Like I said, man, we've been growing.
That list keeps getting bigger, But I appreciate everyone of
you that makes this happen. And thank you for listening
to Financial Fridays here on iHeartRadio CT one on one.
I'm Tony K. You can always find me on Instagram
at the Insider Investor. Remember, keep that wallet height, keep
(51:10):
your mind right, and come to see you next Friday
on Financial Friday.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
Thank you for listening to Financial Fridays with the Insider
Investor Tony K on Cannabis Talk one oh one, the
world's number one source for everything cannabis.
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