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April 21, 2024 51 mins

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Ryan Garcia shocking the boxing world with his upset over Devin Haney, LeBron James and the Los Angeles Lakers falling to Nikola Jokic and the defending champion Denver Nuggets in Game 1, Anthony Edwards showing up his idol Kevin Durant as the Minnesota Timberwolves blew out the Phoenix Suns, the New York Knicks taking a 1-0 lead over Joel Embiid and the Philadelphia 76ers, and more!

3:00 - Introduction

5:45 - Ryan Garcia beats Devin Haney

25:30 - What’s next for Garcia?

34:30 - Nuggets beat the Lakers

47:30 - Knicks beat the Sixers

54:15 - Wolves beat the Suns

55:30 - Who could be the next “Face of the League” in the NBA?

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Speaker 3 (01:44):
Listen? Sh whoa real come back? Real real? What really
going on?

Speaker 2 (01:56):
What really going onakfast four o'clock.

Speaker 5 (01:59):
In the morning, man, Listen, listen, listen. I'm gonna tell
you how it was. Fare. You know, I wake up
early in the morning.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
You know, I hate to start the show off like this,
but but we beefing right now, since we family, I'm
I'm gonna let you know the real I get up
at five in the morning. I say, I'm hungry. She's
scrolling through Instagram. I say, I'm hungry, so I left
five minutes go by. She say I'm hungry too, So
okay boom. So we're both hungry.

Speaker 5 (02:29):
So I'm waiting on. I'm like, okay, that's I'm waiting
on you to like.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
What we're gonna do. Two more times so you know what.
I ain't get no reply, I say, you know what,
fuck it, I'm gonna get up.

Speaker 5 (02:43):
I got up and I went to McDonald's. I can't.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
I got me something. You didn't get nothing, And.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
So hold on, I get my McDonald's. I come back in.
She's still in the bed. I'm like, man, what's up?

Speaker 3 (02:58):

Speaker 1 (02:59):
All nonchalant, like it was nothing down there to eat?
I was hungry too, but what you mean.

Speaker 5 (03:05):
Ain't nothing to eat? It ain't nothing to eat?

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Like like, come on now, so you know what, I
unfollowed up on all on everything. I'm following on Twitter,
I'm following on Instagram, Like, man, I was heart I
felt I felt like you should have just made a
little effort, even if it was nothing down there to eat,
you know, because.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
This so.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Listen, we we beefing right now, and and I'm standing
on business back that.

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So thank you very much. Oh Jo, Let's get right
into it. Ryan Garcia pulls off a huge upset of
the WBC super lightweight champion Devin Haney, knocked him down
three times when Haney had never touched had never touched

the canvas, and won the victory by a majority decision.
Garcia has been eligible to win the title for missing weight.
He was three pounds over the one forty limit, which
is a light hip, which is a lightweight, and Garcia
really should have ended the fight in the first round.
O Jo, Yeah, if Garcia took wing serious, because you

can tell he doesn't take it serious. He came in overweight,
he drinking at the weigh in. If he were to
take it serious, I think he has the tools, yeah,
to be really about I think he's good.

Speaker 5 (04:57):
I think he already is special.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
But he is something about Garcia that you can't teach,
and that speed, that's quickness. There's something that he has
in his hands that it relates to power because he's
so quick obviously catching, yeah, catching, catching, hades a few times,
people knocking him down. And we know what I think
Ryan Garcia did. I think he fooled everybody. I think

what he did, all the antics, all the what I identify
as and you know, the protesting and the speaking out
on what was going on instead of actually focus just
to not only sell the fight, but get people thinking
that he wasn't taking the fight serious.

Speaker 5 (05:35):
Because the first thing you.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Said height, he couldn't win the title.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
What you mean people think you.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Not making weight is he was happy to be fighting
at his natural weight as opposed to dehydrating and being
weaker going into the fight.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yes, sir, what was the what would let me ask your question?
At light and lightweight? Right, they didn't agree to They
didn't agree to fight at a catchweight. They agreed to
fight light weight. The limit is one Yeah, okay, he
came in three pounds overweight, so so how are we

supposed to say he took the fights here? Yeah, he's
drinking beer as the way.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
I'm not saying. I'm not saying I don't I don't
know how to put it on. I don't know how
to put it. But what what I what? I what
I what I witnessed to night was I think someone
that was fooling us with all the answers he was
doing now coming in overweight, that you can say, you
know what, you're not taking this fight serious because you
came in three pounds overweight and now you don't have
a shot at winning the belt or the title. But

then when you see him getting the ring and perform
the way you perform the night, that's that's taking it serious.

Speaker 5 (06:53):
Because I'm not trying to be funny.

Speaker 3 (06:55):

Speaker 1 (06:55):
I'm not trying to be funny. People in the chat
might agree with me, some of them might not. They
are familiar with each other because they fought the amateurs,
so they know each other very well. Obviously, throughout the years,
everyone has has developed skill of gotten much better at
their craft. As far as the beauty as far as
the sweet science is concerned. But tonight it felt like,

I'm not saying Devin Haney was this this unbelievable boxer
that's out this world. He was undefeated, he was good
at what he does. But when I saw him, when
I saw him go down that first time, it didn't
look loud, but it didn't look right. It just it
just it just didn't feel right. I'm not saying these
Mike Tyson, but when Buster Douglas knocked Mike Tyson down,

you know, you know what I'm trying say, just the.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Feeling it just it looks right because I've never.

Speaker 5 (07:42):
Seen I've never seen it before.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
When Antonio Tarboro knocked Roy Jones down or knocked him out,
it just didn't look right because.

Speaker 5 (07:48):
We're not used to seeing those individuals get and those
type of circumstances, if that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Oh Joe, but.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
You don't look you look at Devin Hainey like an
elite level line like.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
That, but undefeated, Uncle, he's undefeated a what he he's
look Look at the people he's fort look at the
people he's for.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
I'm That's why I was scared to say this I'm
not saying he's Mayweather. I'm not saying he's Mike Tyson
or he's Roy Jones. But he's undefeated. He has a resume,
and he has, you know, the accolades and credentials. So
I'm disrespecting him for what he's done to this point
in his career. That's all. That's all I'm saying. So
it just looked weird seeing him go down.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yet you can risk, you can respect the fighter for
his resume and still said there's questions.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
I still have questions.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
You had no questions about Roy Jones, You had no
questions about Mike Tyson, You had no questions about Shane
Mosley before he lost the Vernon Force. You had no
no questions about these guys that had unblemished records. Right,
So when I look at Devin Haney, I got I
see a guy with a suspect.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
He doesn't have you, he doesn't have power.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
So now because you see Garcia, that fight should have
been over if that's but also you got to be careful.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
I think Garcia didn't want to punch yourself out. You
don't want to punch yourself out in the first round, but.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
He already did punch this, but you know why because
he's not con probably one hundred and forty three. That's
what heavyweights do. They measured their punches.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
A lot of that is a volume puncher. Devin Hainey
and Ryan Garcia on volume punchers. They're not used to
throwing that many punches around. So you do have to
gauge yourself a little bit based on how your on
what your true fighting style is. If that, If that
makes sense, remember Paul Williams, memember, Paul Williams, guess what man, Paul? Now, Yeah,

volume punches a round. Man, it's only a few, it's
only a few. It's only a few fighters that could
do that.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yeah, tall six four.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah, but you got a condition yourself.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Coitioning must be.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Right now as you go up and wait, guys don't
really throw punches like that because it takes a lot
more oxygen to be able to put Those heavyweight throw
twenty punches around and stuff, and most of their punches
are measured. But the lord guys, because you know, they
throwing one hundred and fifteen they throw you know, they
throwing seventy eighty one hundred punches in a round because

their condition and it did is it doesn't take as
much much oxygen to fuel their body.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
But if Ryan Garcia, oh you.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Had a chance to women are coming in with the
right weight, you could have left with the bell.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yes, and you had to give up a one point
five million because you had to pay five hundre thousand
for every time you're overweight, So that cuts into your purse.
All I'm saying is that if you're gonna take the
craft serious, take it serious. You want to say you
want to be a champion, You want to be thought
of the great Mexican fighters, d La Hoya, day la Hoya.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
If if the.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Golden Boy board reason he won gold in Barcelona in
the ninety two Olympics.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
He's from East Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
When you think of Mexican fighters, you think a tough,
you think a condition Yeah, that's not Ryan Garcia. Ryan
Garcia is not conditioned. You you gotta take this craft
serious or if you can't.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Make But they got the real we don't want to
do that.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
They got the real thumps up there.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, I mean very dangerous, very very dangerous for for Ryan.
But obviously at one forty would he display the night
Man with that jab, with that left hook that magical
that but oh man then left.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
That's that's his point, Ojo, what's your favorite route? If
I know your favorite round is a shake or a
stud of good again, you know as much, but you can't.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
You can't teach speed.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
That's like, that's like wait, hold on, you know what
that's like. Tyreek Killer's playing right and you know he
about to go deep. As a dB, you already know
he's going deep. And every time they hiked the ball,
what to a do? Hit Tyreek deep and you knew
it was coming. Some things you just can't stop. Randy Moss,
he lined up the dB ten yards off the dB.

Speaker 5 (12:23):
Coach, tell the dB, you know what, go ahead and
go back a little bit. You know he going deep.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Randy, come off the ball slow us hell. He throws
hand up for five yards. You still gotta fire yard cushion.

Speaker 5 (12:36):
They let the ball go.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Randy still, Randy still sko even if you know it's coming,
he's still catching me with it. That means that left
hand and that left hook is magical. It's special. And
there's something in boxing. There's something every sport you can't teach.
You can't teach speed, and you can't you can't teach quickness.

Speaker 5 (12:55):
You can't. That's God, give.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Me, Okay, I might. Okay, let's just say for the
sake of argument, o jo, it's thirty seconds in the clock.
We are by six and random all are you getting
beat deep? No? Nothing cheap, nothing deep. We understand early.
But you know that in boxing is.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
A little different than getting beat deep because you know
he's the one. He's done.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Deontay Wilder watching't Deontay Wilder win fights anymore because everybody
knows he's trying to load up for that one punch
the right hand. Once they neutralized in the right hand,
he fighting one hand behind his back because he's really
not doing anything else.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
He's not shooting the jam to sit up in the
right hand. He's just looking. He just circling, look at
it right like one big punch.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
He's not Lennick Lewis, He's not Vladimir Klitchko.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
He's not one of these Ernie Shaver's got Larry.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Holmes who used the jam boom boom a range, using
it to boom to do this. Yes, So that's all
I'm saying. Listen, give Ryan, give Ryan Garcia credit, But bro,
you overweight, You overweight. You overweight. Now I'm understanding, bring

your ass underweight, and you not, and you're not gonna
rehydrate up to one fifty. But Ryan won the fight.
But what are we supposed to do? Are we supposed
to say, oh, won to fight Vincent? Yeah, he won
the fight. He came in overweight. I still don't believe
he took it serious because his conditioning. A guy that

fire shouldn't have to fight in his early twenties. Yeah,
I mean his first.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Being cautious, being cautious, understanding what happened last time when
he when he listened, listen, listen, listen, let's what happened.
I was going in there, rushing in there, being aggressive,
and he was susceptible to the counter, and he got
countered and couldn't get back up. So I think he
approached this quite a little different. I'm gonna take it
a little cautious. I'm gonna picking pick, choose when to

take my shots.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah, like Duran when Duran beat Sugar Rate, we was
in shock. We were in shock. I remember that fight.
We were in shock. When guys like when we look
at when we look at fighters like the Tyson like
like like some of the guys that have lost.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
Obviously, Mayweather never lost.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
But when we look at Roy Jones, when uh uh,
Antonio Tarbora Caudy, and we look at when Burning Forest
like not beat, not beat Shane once beat him twice,
we like, God, I'm just I'm not wait you.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yes, surprise, I'm gonna be honest with you. I thought
I really thought Hainy was gonna win the fight. I really,
I really thought I'm gonna see a lot to you.
I thought, forget, forget the wait. I wasn't even worried
about Ryan missing Wade. I was thinking about all the
antics he was pulling leading.

Speaker 5 (15:55):
Up to the fight, like are you are you in camp?

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Are you really training all the stuff on camer identify
as a woman.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah, I thought he was. I thought he was just
trying to sell the fight. I thought I thought he
was gonna be a close fight. And then let me
tell you what swim swung me to Hany is that
when he showed up overweight, man, he ain't taking it serious.
That's so that's what swung me towards. Really like, I was.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Like, man, this thing can go fifty to fifty.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
I'm like, uh it wasn't like when it when he
fought Tank, I was like, Hey, if I fight, I'm
putting all my money on Tank.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
But with in Devin Haney, I'm looking at him.

Speaker 5 (16:36):
I just saw Hani as to me as a better
pure boxer. Obviously.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
You know, he's sharp, even though a lot of people
say he doesn't have power, he's sharp.

Speaker 5 (16:46):
He counts very well. His ring i Q is is solid.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
This is nice.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
And you know, I'm not gonna call him a one
trick pony. But Ryan Garcia just has obviously the quickness
in the speed and and and that got then that guy.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
He got great hair, great hands.

Speaker 5 (17:02):
Feed that god damn hook's here.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
And he set it up so he he caught He
caught him with the jab and blinded him and came
right back with it.

Speaker 5 (17:09):
And he didn't even see it coming.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
But if you look at the first time, what did
he do.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
If you remember the fight with Masa Dollar Gousemanusman knocked
his head, his hand, nooseman boom, Brian Garcia did the
same thing.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Taped over the top of it.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
What he should have done, because you remember that Garcia
started turning his back and dunk it. Now you got this,
now you got this jump around, stop hitting that.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
He come with you.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Bryan Garcia trying to do the Philly shell. It ain't
look right that that. It don't look right something he's
not doing it.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
No, no, no, no, you got no no, no, no, no, no, no,
no no yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Ain't a whole lot of fighters do that. The first
guy nice with it.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Listen, sweet pee, Whittaker looked, did the Philly shell to perfection?
Obviously Mayweather does the Philly shell to perfection and drawing
in when he wants to go on to shell and
fight and fight off of that defensively or offensively.

Speaker 5 (18:04):
I mean three that. I mean others can do it.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
I mean accepts you will and understanding you're doing it
for a specific reason. Brian was just doing it just
to do it and really not really not throwing back.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Right now. No.

Speaker 1 (18:16):

Speaker 2 (18:17):
The difference between the guys that you mentioned, they didn't
have the offensive arsenal that Floyd has. Floyd can be
a defensive fighter and at the same time pull damn
everything you throw. He can count over the top, his reflexes.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
His eyes, he anticipate, anticipate was coming every second to none.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Oh you're gonna miss me with your hook and I'm
gonna catch you with mine. Oh you go throw the right.
I'm I'm a pull and I'm a boom. I'm gonna
catch you with mine. His ability to see the punch
is unbelievable, but Ryan Garcia pulls off the huge upset.
He had he made way, he'd been to new WB

super Light Wich, had been, he beat Devin Hainey. I
want to hear the score cards, because you know didn't
read you the score cards on the majority of the decision.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
That means somebody somebody.

Speaker 5 (19:11):
That's impossible. That's that's impossible.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
You have to you have to be a black man
to say anything hate have to get knocked down three times.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Hello, it's on.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
It's only three judges for you to have a majority
decision and not an unanimous decision. That means somebody or
so when you still want to know the don't you
want to know the ref?

Speaker 1 (19:33):
I was I was a little I was a little
perplexed looking at the ref. It looked like the ref
was trying to help hate me out a little bit.
Now I might be wrong, I might be tripping, but
there were three knockdowns to me, it might have been.

Speaker 5 (19:45):
Four or five I don't know what the ref was doing.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
I don't know what he was looking at.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
I mean, hey, hey, hey, look when he clipped hating.
First of all, it takes a special type of person
to get clipped if he'll come forward and he.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Can't take a minute to get yourself together to so
you gotta you gotta catch you, gotta hold on.

Speaker 3 (20:09):

Speaker 2 (20:11):
But here's the thing to o Joe. He felt that power. Yeah,
he never felt power like that before. So now all
of a sudden, I gotta tread very cart Now it's
preventing me from because he might catch me slipping.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yeah. But see the.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Problem that he had is that he kept slipping and
the same thing, and at some point in time, they're
gonna turn you up.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
You remember Marco Antonio Borero, No, that.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Was who when he fought pack ya.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
If you know you like to do the.

Speaker 5 (20:51):
Same rhythm, he catched the rhythm, the rhythm you.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Move me, yeah, yes, yes, yes yes.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Another guy, Shane Mosley, Shamee Mosley does his hands like
this before he throws a punch. If you watch him,
he always does this timing these look here and so
like to a natural person, unless you like you be
around fighters, and you be around trainers and they talk
you through what he's doing and what why he's doing it.

Speaker 5 (21:21):
Now you have you can't see it.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Listen that the average person can't see that high high ring.

Speaker 5 (21:30):
I Q fighters can see. Dude, that is nothing but
a chess match.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
I'm sure casual fans think, oh, they just they just
they just they just in the throwing.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
By the time you see it is different.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
It's a different ball game in there. It ain't people think,
oh they just in their throwing punches. Everything is calculated,
everything is calculating everything everything.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Oh yeah, now sometimes they get.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
What you want to do. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
If Floyd said he doesn't watch his opponent, he trusts
this trainers to watch them, watch the fighters and give
him info, give him feedback. He say he don't watch
the fighters. So now, but give Ryan Garcia credit. But
I wish he took it serious. I wish he made
I wish he take it serious. Get the belts, because look,
you need belts, because I mean, what are you fighting for.

You want a legacy. You can't have no legacy without
no belts. So cho I don't give it. Damn, Oh
he don't want no belts. Buy jive. Why are you
getting this? Why you if you do this? If you're
a boxer, if you're an MMA, it's all about the titles. Yes,
you want to win, but the titles give you more money.

That's what that's you gotta you get more money when
you have a title, or when you have titles. You
think Floyd may whether would be thought of if Floyd
did have no belts. We would look at Floyd the
same way we will look at sugar Rate. We would
look at d Ran, We would look at Roy Jones,
We look at any of the great if they ain't
got no belts.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
That sound I mean the belts obviously what COMMANDSY is
with commands the money.

Speaker 5 (23:12):
But I mean they got it.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
And now you gotta fight on belt. Now you fight
on my turn. May Welles said, now I ain't going nowhere.
If you want to fight me, you come into Vegas.
I ain't getting on no plane. Think about it. If
I'm not mistaken, I think once he fought or Toro
got in it, after that, I don't think. I don't
think that he'll left. Oh bet he left Vegas after that.
Roy Jones. I remember Roy Jones. I was talking to

Roy and Roy had like six or seven belts, and
I think somebody, whether Kalzagi had one belt, somebody had
like one belt.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
But he wanted him to take.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
His six or seven belt and come overseas to fight
him for the one belt russe.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Hell know, So y'all get me over there and ping
whip me. I mean obviously obviously they have a rematch coming,
right not?

Speaker 2 (24:03):
I mean, do you getch you gotta get sometimes what right?

Speaker 3 (24:09):
I know it?

Speaker 5 (24:09):
Right, I know it, Ryan Garcia.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Sometimes somebody you're gonna say, no, I don't want to
fight Devin Haney. I want I want to rematch with Tank.
Oh that's right, thank you. That one thirty five. He
don't want to go down to one thirty five. But
I don't believe he could be taking what who's next?
For who's next?

Speaker 5 (24:31):
For Garcia to fight then Shakur?

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Uh but uh, well, I don't what. I don't think
he don't want none of that. Now that's a different
ball game. Yeah, he does not want to fight could
that's a different ball game.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
But because here's the oh, Joe, here is the thing.
And we talked, we talked about this the other night
with Mayweather. Maywell have really never had to lose. But
life ruck around. I said, walking a round weight with property, right, Yeah,
he like one fifty two walk around, So he go
down to one one forty seventh, he's great. He fighting
at one fifty four. He's at one fifty two, so

he's having to eat a lot of calories just to
get to the fifty fourt what middle junior willoweight. So
but when you want the big guys and you got
to come all the way down, you walking around at
one sixty five and gotta come down to one to
one forty, Yeah, you're gonna be drained. And if they

put a clause in there that won't let you overreach you,
you ain't gonna be depleted.

Speaker 5 (25:43):
Thought that was good tonight.

Speaker 3 (25:45):

Speaker 1 (25:45):
It was just weird seeing Haini go down. Man, it
was weird seeing seeing the guy. And I hate the comparison.
I know people are gonna make fun of me saying,
while you comparing them to Mike Tyson, and while you're
comparing them to I'm just saying the moment, the moment
of just seeing him go down at the never seen
him to go down like that and actually get hit
like that. I've never seen him take that kind of punishment.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
It just looked weird, right, Yeah yeah, hold on one
twelve o K one twelve. One judge had to draw
one twelve one twelve. Yeah, because that's how you get it.
That's the only way you can get a majority of this,
or else it would have been ud It'll have been
a unanimous decision. So because it wasn't unanimous, I knew

somebody either had to draw or had the only way
the majority decision.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Now I see why the ref is doing what he
was doing. I mean, I'm gonna help you out. I
help you out as much as possible. There was only
so much he could do though.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah, yeah, one judge had had to fight one twelve
one twelve. But Ryan Garciel beats Devin Haney. He does
not get the belt because he didn't make weight. He
ends up having to give the Devin Haney one point
five million because he bet that if thought every pound
he was overweight. He given five, but he.

Speaker 5 (27:06):
An't give it up.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
My time out.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Speaking of paying money, wait, you o me five hundred
dollars now, I ain't.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Know what what happened? What happened? Listen?

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Money out of second cause a fight now you. You
made a bet. Chat, please remind him about his bet.
You said you said the bull was gonna beat the heat.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Go get yeah, go get go, get your money from Za.

Speaker 5 (27:34):
What happened?

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Yeah? That what you're what I mean?

Speaker 5 (27:37):
I don't understand what you mean.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
I don't know sah you do.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
You don't speak English, you don't speak ebonics, you don't
speak slang, you don't speak that.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
We just made last weekend and you said the bull
is gonna beat the heat.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Money that we bet? Zach all over, Zach Wilson. Do
it this. I don't know Chad to pull it up?

Speaker 2 (28:08):

Speaker 5 (28:08):
Now you on your best? Okay, okay, we.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Get it back.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
I get it back, even though even though you didn't
pay me my money.

Speaker 5 (28:24):
I'm just saying, I'm well, I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
We will pull it. We'll find it. I don't ain't
Chad find it. You sure sure to find it. I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
I bet on that's my guy.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (28:37):
I don't recall making any best during football season.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (28:44):

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Oh and that Cardarius Tony. Remember Cadarius Tony. We're gonna
have no more drops?

Speaker 3 (28:49):
Oh? I bet he walked on. Not only did he
have a drop the next game. No, we didn't.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
We didn't been drop to a pick. Oh yes, we
battled that. Oh absolutely, oh absolutely, oh absolutely couldn't Curt.
There's to it from Florida. And see that's how I
get you. I know you gonna better off faced. Lord, Nah,
you can't help it.

Speaker 5 (29:12):
Just being honest.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
But yeah, chat, y'all better tell it. Huh. It was
two hundred for Tony how much for Zack Wilson? It
was another four?

Speaker 2 (29:25):
So I owe y'all. Huh, I'll tell you what I'm
gonna do. How about this, old Joe? Can you put
that hunt on the running the count? If I don't
run up and pay you, don't you run your ass
up and ask me for it?

Speaker 6 (29:42):
He No, Hey, that's a that's a good one, old Joe.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Check us out the Nuggets feat the Lakers one fourteen
to one on three. The Lakers three point shooting tonight,
Lebron James was three or five sixty percent. The rest
of the team was five to twenty four twenty percent.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Uh woo.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Nikola Jokics was Nikola Jokic, and he's gonna show you why.
He showed you why he's gonna be the MVP thirty
two points, twelve rebounds, seven assists, zero turnovers on fifteen
of twenty three shooting, and it's the Nuggets fifth straight
win over the Lakers playoff win over the Lakers Yoki
Jer Murray combined for seventeen assists and no turnovers. Jamal

Murray has the highest increase in points per game all
time in the regular season the postseason a plus seven.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
And a half. Yo Jamal Murray.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
He had his career averages seventeen point five and the
postseason is twenty five. Nikola Jokic normally averages twenty point nine,
but he averages twenty seven point five in the regular season. Yes,
sir o cho, I'm watching this game and the game
goes to the half, and you can go check my tweet.
I knew the Lakers were in trouble because Anthony Davis

and Lebron James having the game of their lives. They're
fourteen to twenty one at the half combined shooting. Lebron
is three or three from the three point line.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
Oh yeah, up three points.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
So your big gun, your big guns are going off
boom boom boom.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
Boom boom boom. Yeah, I mean and you're up three.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
They can't play, they can't play any better. And Gil
and I was on, we gotta make it a three
on three. You gotta make it a d lo A
Rui and Austin Reeves versus Aaron Gordon, Michael Porter Jr.
And KCP. If you go look at the box court tonight,
they're three. We need I played our three, and that's

that's the only way because Lebron, James and Ad gotta
cancel my AD had I think AD had what thirty
four fifteen and like six or seven or six?

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Pull pull?

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Let me pull up right here. Oh yeah, because Ad
hell is on. I was very very excited watching Ad play.
He played extremely well. I don't like look. I understand
the Lakers like, hey, we don't want eighty we meet
eighty four. But at some point in time you can't

give yoke the exact same look all the time and
have ruy on it. Ad had eighty with thirty two
fourteen and five with four blocks.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Lebron was twenty seven eight with one.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Block, one steal, and six rebounds, so twenty seven points,
eight assists, six rebounds. He was really really careless with
the basketball. He had seven of their twelve turnovers. So
Yolk had thirty two points, twelve rebounds, seven assists, and
Jamal Murray had twenty two points, ten assists and six rebounds.

So the big two for both teams, they cancel each
other out. Let's just say they cancel each other out.
But Austin Reeves had thirteen, d Low has thirteen.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
But he was three for nine.

Speaker 5 (33:07):
He was shooting bad three. He was shooting bad from three.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Yeah, he had thirteen points on twenty shots.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Ruey, Rui, Ruey didn't play bad.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Ruy just didn't get enough shots. Ruy got to shoot
the ball more. He had four shot attempts and you got.
KCP had twelve points, you got. Aaron Gordon had twelve points.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
You had Michael port d Angelo probably won't have another
game like that. I think as a shooter, you know,
you keep on shooting, but obviously you have to know
when when to stop. You know, if you want for night,
if you won for nine from three and it's not falling,
then obviously you need to change to the mid range
game and start trying to drive to the basket and
create files and maybe get to the line a little
bit and get your points, get your points that way

and try to find yourself in a rhythm as far
as shooting the ball and concerned. And when when I
think about it, Austin Reeves has to has to play better, I.

Speaker 5 (33:59):
Mean as well. And you said Rui, Ruie.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Does Ruy have the green light to be able to
take the amount of shots you think he should? That
that's the whole thing. Certain people are reluctant to just
go out there and just shoot just to be shooting
more show shooting when they're actually open. Does he have
the green like to do that?

Speaker 3 (34:20):
He has the ability to shooy.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
But you know what I mean, you know what I mean.
You know what I mean though, right there's certain players
that have the green shoot.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
It will probably twenty shots, probably no twenty shots, probably
know but a lot of his shots, a lot of
his shots are coming their guys are feeding him.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
Okay, I mean that he gets the mismatch.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah, he can post up a Jamal Murray, he gets
a KCP or he gets a smaller guy. Yeah, he
can boast, but more times than not, it's off a feed.
Something like that.

Speaker 5 (34:48):
A little good question.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
I don't know if it really plays a factor. Obviously,
when you're play in Denver when it comes to football
outside altitude, but even with you're being indoors, you think
alter altitude played any type of any type of factor
for the Lakers at.

Speaker 5 (35:04):
All, But you're in your indoors. I'm not sure how
that works.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
You got.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
No, no, no, it's still I mean, you're still five eighty
feet a buff sea level, so it is still.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
A mile high.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
I think you just think the thing is you're obviously
the pressure the it's the playoffs, so there's a different
type of anxiety to it. And you know when you
pumped up and you know your heart beats a little faster,
you get tired more, more rapidly, quicker. So it's, uh,

I just don't know. I mean, this is this is
the fifth time I watched them in the playoffs. I'm
just not so sure because I think there's a greater
chanced Loo has another game like he had tonight as
opposed to Murray having another game like he had Murray
was nine or twenty four. Must the likelihood of him
going nine to twenty four again, everybody, joke's gonna be

Yo's gonna.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Do here what he does.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
But see, my problem is with with Ham is that
he's giving him a steady died of the same thing. Okay, Ruy,
you got him for about five or six plays. Okay,
ad you got him five or six strip down of
court Lebron. If you give any great player a steady
diet of anything, it's like a human getting a steady
down of antibiotics. It's gonna build up a resistance to it,

and then all of a sudden it's gonna be no good.
And you see what happens. He started getting into his
rhythm and now you got your hands full. Now you're
at his mercy because he's stronger than you think. He
doesn't have muscle tone. He not carved like a tarm
Alone or Dwight Howard or Ben Wallace. But look when
he puts that shoulder in people's chest, how he dislodges

them from that spot. It doesn't matter if it's Ruy,
if it's a d if it's Lebron. And Lebron ain't
no small man and he's not a weak man. But
he moved him like it's nothing. And you know you're
reluctant because he's such a great pass He's seven foot
tall and he's gonna be able to beam the ball
craft cross court. Define Michael Porter Jr. Or KCP or

one of those shooters spotting up. But you gotta roll,
you gotta roll. So who do you trust KCP? I
think KCP made all his all his threes in the
third because he was he wasn't very good in the
first half, and then the second they broke the game open.
But if you watch this game closer, if you notice
something about the Nuggets when they go on their runs,

they don't let you off the hook by turning the
ball over like the Lakers did. See the Lakers got
on a run and all of a sudden they start
turning the ball over. And so what was a ten
or eleven, twelve point lead that possibly could have got
the sixteen, seventeen, maybe even eighteen. Now they turned the
ball over like three times in a row, and a
twelve point lead, all of a sudden, it's down to five.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
Remember what we talked about in.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
The Super Bowl, Ojo, When you get the momentum, how
much separation can you put Because like you said, you
know nbat if they're gonna go on a run two,
So you just wanted to be because think about it,
they were down. They went from down one to up
fourteen like that. That's what the Unions did to the
Laker and just like that.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
But I don't know. I just don't know.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
I've seen I've seen a D the first game last year,
have a monster game and they lost Lebron. The last
game when they got swept, he had forty and they lost.
Lebron and a D played well together and lost. Has
to play better because he has to play better.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Arsin Reeve has to play better, and Ruy and some
of the other supporting casts and players come off the bench.

Speaker 5 (38:36):
You got, you got, you got.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Somebody got to give them the confidence or the green light.
It's okay to shoot the ball. It's okay, you gotta
pull it. You gotta pull it because listen, a seven
game series, right, you're already down one.

Speaker 5 (38:50):
Just let it go.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Yeah, they have thirdy harm. I mean, the series doesn't
start until somebody wins on the opposing team's court.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
But the problem is is.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
That he's a good offensive player, but he's his foot
is because you know they're gonna put you in the
pick and roll and you gotta fight hard, and you
know it's it's just Murray. I mean, Murray, ain't no
easy task. But when you're in the Western Conference, ain't
none of the guards in the West easy task because

you got Shade and you got Stepped, and you got
a d Fox, and you got Luca and you got Tyrie.
So you ain't got no easy wins and you're dealing
with hard. Although hard, it's not what he once was.
He's still crafty, he's still shifted. He still can get
it done. So there are no easy there's no like, man,
I got a night off. No you don't, No, you don't.

And so it's gonna it's gonna be a yeah, it's
gonna be it's gonna be a tough gona be to
the Knicks beat the Sixers one eleven and one o four. Uh.
Joel Embiid threw it up the glass, he slammed it

down and he had a little scare the left knee,
causing Joel he missed twenty nine games with that knee.
The Sixers outscored the Knicks by fourteen win mb was
on the court, but they were outscored by twenty one
when he wasn't. Uh. This was another game, but it
came down to Josh Hart All the big shots down

the stretch. Josh Hart made him. He made every three
he got every time they rebound. You know, I was
on there and they asked me. I said, man, most
of the time, a lot of games, Jaylen Brunsey, he's
not an efficient player. Oh look at this, hey, Chad,

where did Jaylen bruns shoot from the floor.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
Eight to twenty six?

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Yeah, twenty two, this is twenty You know this is
not the Jayleen brush you're gonna get every night.

Speaker 5 (41:05):
He's he's he's he's there, he's big.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Yeah, I'm saying he's under fifty tonight, going to be
shooting for the season. He's under fifty percent.

Speaker 5 (41:18):
He gonna give your points.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
And if you know, you know the Knicks, you know
the Knicks are in the playoffs because of Jaylen Brunton
in this show.

Speaker 5 (41:25):
Even even even though he's under fifty percent.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
I'm not saying that he is to say he could
be true. Oh Joe, So let me get this right.
That's like me said, man, oh man, oh Joe, Oh Joe.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Have one hundred and seventy yards he had Catcher, I
should have had one hundred.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
I can't even talk.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
I can't even say anything negative about Jayleen Brunton all
the name or the Knicks, obviously, but they are they
they are in the playoffs because of him. Takes a
lot of shots, he scores a lot of points, he
makes a lot of makes a lot of plays, he
facilitates the balls that well.

Speaker 5 (41:57):
And I guarantee you he won't have another game like
he had today.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
I'm not gonna say he's not, because they have lent
that can bother Tobias Harris six ' eight, Kelly Oubrey
six six sixty seven. Kyle Lowry is tenacious, although he
probably have better against Kyle because Kyle's a little small.
So small and small, you like Jaln Brunson in that
situation and then you send him to your help and

you got Joel andbid back there to really make things
even more difficult for But Jaylen Brunson is gonna be
an All NBA player, probably the second team. I don't
think he's not gonna nudge out first Shaye or or
Luca for first team. But I think he's gonna be
the second team, and rightfully so. I think he average
what twenty eight points this season, had one of the

last the best one third best ten game stretch since
nineteen eighty had almost.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
Three hundred and eighty points.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Only Kobe and Jordan scored more over the last ten
games of a regular season. So An Bruston, it's gonna
bet Jaylen Bruston, you just try to neutralize him. But
here's the thing, though, Ojo, is that you got him
to shoot eight for twenty six.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
That's the game you gotta steal, because, like you.

Speaker 5 (43:09):
Said, playing that way, I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Based on who he is, based on how he's played
all season long, even though you're saying he's shooting under
fifty percent, he's gonna come back. And if you win nine,
if you went nine for twenty six, I'm sure it's
gonna clean up. He's gonna be shooting the higher percentage
in the next game.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
Yeah, Yeah, you just gotta make him work. If he
if tested shots all straight, they run. Yeah you about
dad O Joe? Man, you can't man, You see Joe
with that?

Speaker 2 (43:45):

Speaker 3 (43:45):

Speaker 2 (43:46):
I can't play no better defense. The man one hand
caught it. Bro, Come on that the dude high pointed
ball in the middle of the field with three guys
on him. Bro, what you want me to do? I
can't play no better defense than that. But where they
lost the game, where the Sixers lost the game, they
will rebinding by twenty two. You can't get out rebounding
like you can't got because you know Josh Hart's gonna
crash the board. He's one of those guys. He's gonna

he's a hustle player. He's gonna crash the board and
he can make timely shot, which he did, but his
biggest asset is his hustle, his ability to track down
loose balls. And he gave the Knicks a couple of
extra possessions that they ended up scoring. But who would

have thought that the Knicks would out rebind Num by
twenty two. Now you know, Joe el Ebiid is not
gonna be able to. He's not gonna be able to.
He's not as mobile as he was. He's got that
bulk in knee breaks. So Tobias Tobias did, he had
nine nine rebound.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
What what Maxie finished with? Yeah, man, Maxi, MAXI gonna
have to of the load. He's gonna have to put
the Sixers on the shoulders. That I mean, the best
way he can because Embiid and be can only do
so much with a.

Speaker 5 (44:58):
Bad need, especially at that height, especially at that size.

Speaker 3 (45:02):
What we're used to see him.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Remember, he's really not going to be able to be
as effective as he wants to, even though it's playoff time.

Speaker 5 (45:08):
If anything, I listen.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
I don't think I'm allowed to say it on here,
but there's something that we used to take when we
were injured a little bit that allowed us to play
an effective game where we couldn't feel nothing.

Speaker 5 (45:18):
I'm not sure if.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
They had the T word, you know, yeah, I can
say that you tore it off.

Speaker 5 (45:23):
Do they have that in the NBA?

Speaker 3 (45:24):
Oh yeah, they got it?

Speaker 5 (45:25):
Yoh, okay, Well, well listen man one of them and
do what you need to do.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
The Knicks had twenty three offensive rebounds. I don't know
if twenty three out rebound offensive rebound twenty three to nine,
that'd be interested. How many second chance points did they have?
Can we see that? Hold up?

Speaker 3 (45:54):
They had to have a commanded lead. With that three
offensive rebounds.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
You get crazy twenty offensive rebound. Think about how many
Think about the points you scored off of those twenty three,
twenty six Off of those twenty.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
Three they got twenty six.

Speaker 5 (46:11):
You're gonna win the game every time.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
Twenty six second chance points.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
Huh, you're gonna win the game if you gonna sixers
the game every time.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
So plus eighteen yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
So Nix's whole servant home on the night in which
Jaylen Brunson did not shoot the ball particularly well.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Normally, guys like Jaylen Brunson.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
When they don't shoot well game one, they come back
and light your ass up in game two.

Speaker 3 (46:40):

Speaker 2 (46:40):
You better be on your best behavior. You better be
on your best behavior. The team Wolves beat the Suns one.
With forty seven seven seconds remaining in the third quarter,
ad drifted.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
To the left wing, shot a shot over. Trey, shot
a Trey over.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Kevin Durant looked at him because he said, that's his
favorite player. They had a fun together, and man, I
spoke about this after the game.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
Let's take a listen to what he had to.

Speaker 5 (47:04):
Say, a little back and forth with Kevin Durant the
in the third quarter.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
How fun is that? And what do you make of
the atmosphere tonight?

Speaker 5 (47:09):
I think everybody here knows that's my favorite player of
all time.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
So that was probably one of the best feelings ever
in my whole life, for sure.

Speaker 5 (47:18):
That's dope, that's live, that's life.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
Get ill.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
I mean, look to go and give people that you
actually has to be one of the greatest feelings of
all time. And then to come out there to have
a good game, to hit a shot like that on
the person you look up to.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
And listen.

Speaker 5 (47:37):
I think this is this moment.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
I think at one point in time when Zion was
coming out, I think they were trying to make Zion
the face of the NFL.

Speaker 5 (47:44):
I mean about the NFL.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
I thought they were trying to make Zion the next
Lebron James, the base of the NBA.

Speaker 5 (47:49):
I could be wrong.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
I just want to know what you think about Anthony
Edwards being next in line as the face of the league, And.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Well, who's the first guy to win the championship? Because
you gotta win. You're gonna have to win. He's doing that.
This is second year in the playoffs, so you're gonna
have to win. Jason Tatum said, hey, I won't play
I want DS and man clearly is with him. He
has the personality, he's at the charisma, he has the charm,

he knows how to talk a job, he gets he
gets his situation resolved, He gets his head old straight.
Believe he goes gonna look. Ain't nobody gonna be the
face league? UNTI Lebron Stay.

Speaker 5 (48:39):
Yeah, you're right, you're right.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
I see what you mean. I see what you mean.
But he just looks like he's poised to be next. Man,
he looks like he's poisoned to be next. And then
when you watch his game, chat tell me I'm not lying.
Tell me I'm not lying. If Anthony Edwards movements, his
mannerisms do not remind you of twenty three that played

for Chicago, I'm not saying he's Michael Jordan. I'm just
saying his movement, mannerhythms are exactly the same.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
Exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Man, you but you look at these guys. If you
look at Jordan when he got ear man, you don't
realize how.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
Ben he was. He was loved. Yeah, yeah, I said,
bad damn George like a stick figure. Man.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
You talk about athleticism and he missed around and guy
with a Tim Brover. Yeah, it was good that I
read it. It was good that I read and did
he got to come? You know, Jordan was not a
was not a he was super athletic. He was not
a great shooter. He turned himself into that.

Speaker 5 (49:54):
You don't think he was a good a good shoot.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
He turned himself into that mid rain shot. Not when
he came out. Now, when he came out, he got better.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
He turned himself into what he saw that was that
that turned out to be the money that may pull up.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
He get going in to pull up.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Yeah, and the fall away when you see Kobe, you
see guys have added that to their repertoire.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
Now he came in and started with.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
You see Lebron sam Foot.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
Shoot it up here. Hey, but it's this is gonna
be a fun series.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Look, I don't really take too much out of the
first because the home team, I mean, obviously we'd have
a different story if one of the road teams wins,
we have something different to talk about. But they held
Servant home. You think, okay, there's a reason why we
wanted home court. We held serve at home. Let's make
sure we get two of these and then we go
on to trying to get one there. But the team

got to
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