May 3, 2024 • 43 mins
Kristel Candelario is off on a 10-day whirlwind of adventure and romance.
Ring door video from a neighbor shows Candelario hauling her suitcase to a car as she heads out of town, and she is posting pictures from the beginning of her trip about her 'best life' adventure.
Back at home in Cleveland, Ohio, in the late night, early morning hours, the same Ring Doorbell camera that catches Candelario loading her suitcase into a car before she leaves her home, now is picking up the faint sounds of a crying baby.
When Kristel Candelario leaves on her 10-day vacation, she places her 16-month-old baby, Jailyn, into a pack-n-play pen with a couple of bottles of milk and some crackers, nothing else. Jailyn is left alone, in a playpen, for 10 days straight. She dies from starvation and dehydration; she is hungry and thirsty.
Joining Nancy Grace Today:
- Derek Smith – Defense Attorney for Kristel Candelario
- Dr. Heidi Green – Clinical Psychologist, Trauma Specialist, and Author: ‘The Path to Self-Love and World Domination; IG: @drheidigreen
- Barry Golden– Former Senior Inspector for the U.S. Marshals Service, Owner of Golden Consulting and Investigations
- Dr. Eric Eason – Board-certified Forensic Pathologist, Consultant; Instagram: @eric_a_eason, Facebook: Eric August Eason, LinkedIn: Eric Eason, MD
- Sia Nyorker - Weekend Anchor & Multimedia Reporter at WOIO-TV in Cleveland
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Did a thirty two year old mother lounge and frolic
on a Puerto Rican beach while her little baby died
in a playpen. As a matter of fact, I don't
(00:27):
like listening to it, but as I've told so many juries,
I can't even count them anymore. You can't turn away
from the evidence. You're on this jury. You're in the
box and you have to look at it and you
have to listen to it, whether you hate it or not.
I have listened over and over to a neighbor's ring
(00:51):
doorbell cam. You can't see anything, but I can hear.
I can hear reportedly baby Jalen screaming. Now, this is
on about day three of no food, no water, no mommy,
(01:14):
no daddy, no nothing. Now I'm going to find out
from a veteran investigative reporter, is it true that this
little baby girl, just sixteen months old, was found in
a playpen like a pack and play, with excrement, her
(01:40):
own faces, her own poop smeared on her lips, in
her mouth dried as a little thing was trying to
find something to eat?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Is this real?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
And joining us today is the man who defends mommy,
high profile lawyer joining us Derek Smith again, I Nancy Grace,
this is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us
here at Crime Stories and on Serious XM one eleven.
(02:21):
Brace yourself and you've got to listen really carefully to
hear what I believe is baby Jayleen screaming from mommy. Listen,
(02:48):
you have to listen very carefully. But I hear baby
Jayleen screaming for mommy. Did mommy actually go this? Ohio?
Mom to lounge and frolic? And I say frolic because
I've seen photos of her that looks as if she's
dancing on a beach in Puerto Rico. There she is,
(03:11):
beautiful young woman. My boy, can looks be deceiving? Is
that Crystal Candelario on a Puerto Rican beach? If so,
where's baby? Where's baby Jayleen? Where is her other seven
year old daughter? Joining me in all star panel to
(03:33):
makes sense of what we know? But right now, but
this is this is what I understand to Sea New Yorker,
joining US anchor and multimedia reporter at wo Io Siah,
thank you for being with us. Let me understand something.
I'm about to play a nine to one one call.
(03:54):
Now is this nine one one call? I want you
to listen to it, Sea and tell me it is
what happens when mommy finally drags home.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Listen, what does.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
She think was going to happen? Leaving her baby alone
for ten days? Okay, Sea, New Yorker joining US w
O I O t V. See again, thank you for
being with us. When was the night on one call?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Mate?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
It was made the day she came back on June sixteenth,
And again, prosecutors told us that that nine one one
called came after she returned and after she had redressed
the baby. So the baby Jalen had.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Already stop stop stop stop? Uh oh See New Yorker,
did you.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Just say after she refter dressed the baby, after.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
She redressed the baby, And that was new information that
came out in court? And I felt I watched people
in court their mouths just they were covering their mouths.
I mean, we were just shocked. That was shocking information.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Okay, before I play the rest of the nine one
one call, uh Sean New Yorker joining US w O IOTV.
Derek Smith, did you know the allegation that your client
came home?
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Now?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Wait, sees the baby, then redresses the baby and nice
fresh clothes, I guess, and then screams into the phone.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
You did or did you learn that.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
It did not happen?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
That did not happen?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Okay, all right, guys, Derek Smith wins a lot of cases.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Okay, did you just see him? Look, look, look right
at me and go that didn't happen. That did not happen.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
You know what, if I'm ever charged with a felony,
I'm calling Derek Smith. He looked right at the camera
and said that did not happen. Okay, let's listen to
more of that nine one one called Brace Yourself.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Derek Smith? Why why? Why? Why? Because you left her
(06:59):
alone for ten days? That's why? Why? Why?
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Derek?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Again, why is your client screaming into nine on one climbing?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Why? Why? Why? When she left the baby alone for
ten days? What did she think was gonna happen?
Speaker 6 (07:16):
I asked myself that question. Still today, we still don't
have a clear answer. She couldn't articulate why she did it,
what she was thinking when she just up and left
her with a couple bottles of formula and some baby
cookies and crackers in her pack.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
And play when she up and left.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
There's more to that nine one one call to that
wasn't necessarily played at the sentencing. She did perform CPR
on Jayleen after that when Jayleen, you know, according to
my clients, squeezed.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Her finger and she was saying that she still was
not gone.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
It's okay, hold on right there, Let's not put perfume
on the pig.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
And you say gone, I know what that means, because
for the longest time and even now, it's hard for
me to say these words. Keith is dead. That was
my fiance, Keith. I would say gone, he's gone. So
let's just force ourselves to say the truth. Derek Smith
(08:30):
is a high profile lawyer who represents Crystal Candelario. When
you say your client came in and squeezed her baby's
finger and that she wasn't gone, you mean your client
says she wasn't dead.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Is that right?
Speaker 5 (08:46):
That's correct?
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
To doctor Eric Easton, doctor Eric Easton joining US Board
Certified Forensic Pathologist and consultant on Facebook. Eric August Easton,
doctor Ason, thank you for being with us. How long
can a human live without anything to drink?
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Probably no more than a couple of days is what
we usually say.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
I've had.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
I'm aware of cases that I had in Georgia where
an infant was left for a couple of days and
the belief was that she could have survived no more
than like three or four days.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
At best, certainly not ten days.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
No, if the baby had a bottle of formula, or
let's just say two bottles of formula and the pack
and play and the baby had that, how long could
the baby live a.
Speaker 7 (09:36):
Couple more days?
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Of course, but it's tough to say. You know, each
individual is different, so it's very tough to say exactly
how long this baby would have lived. So many factors
to consider, but it would have prolonged the survival time
for sure.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, the so called killer Ohio mom,
Crystal Candelario lounges on a Puerto Rican beach after leaving
her baby daughter.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Just a few months old, for ten days.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
And oh, dear Lord in Heaven, you know how many
people across this country would pay lots of money to
have a beautiful baby like that? Okay, what more do
we know? Listen to Dave Matt Crime Online.
Speaker 8 (10:28):
Crystal Candelaria is off on a ten day whirlwind of
adventure in romance. Ring doorbell video from a neighbor shows
Candelaria hauling her suitcase to a car as she heads
out of town, and she's posting pictures from the beginning
of her trip about her best life adventure back at
home in Cleveland, Ohio in the late night early morning hours.
That same ring doorbell camera that catches Candelaria loading her
(10:51):
suitcase into a car before leaving now is picking up
the faint sounds of a crying baby.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Oh, I've played it for you. I'm not going to
play it again. Joining me right now.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Doctor Heidie Green, clinical psychologist and trauma specialist, author of
The Path to Self Love and World Domination. I don't
know if I want to go that far. You can
find her at doctor Heidigreen dot com. Doctor Heidie, thank
you for.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Being with us. What does that mean?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
A world wind trip of adventure and romance? Earlier this morning,
I could hardly think straight because I know my daughter
has a math, a chemistry and what is the other one?
Ap literature test and she worked her fingers to the
bone for days. She's been studying till eleven thirty and
(11:39):
twelve at night, and my son has the same rigorous
testing schedule that was earlier this morning. I could hardly
think straight because I was worried, not whether they'll pass,
but I was worried about them, and there was nothing
I could do to help them get through a seemingly
very very difficult cult trial. How do you leave for
(12:03):
ten days of adventure and romance and get on a
plane and fly to Puerto Rico and leave the baby
in a pack and play with a bottle? How does
that happen? Adventure and romance my rear end.
Speaker 9 (12:17):
It's unfathomable, truly, And when we're looking at it from
a mental health perspective, there can be questions such as,
was there were there cognitive issues? Did she not understand
that her child would die?
Speaker 2 (12:33):
But wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, Nider, Heidi,
I'm certainly not a shrink. You are the high profile
clinical psychologist, not me. But if you know how to
wind your way through a major metropolitan airport and get
through TSA and pull out your driver's license and put
(12:54):
your face up and do this and that and find
the gate and get on when they call you and drink, drink,
and then frolic and I know Derek Smitha hates that world.
His client was frolicking on the beach doing jigs and dances.
There are other photos of her arms up in the
air like she's doing, you.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Know, a yoga stretch. Stop a mommy. She just not
mentally ill.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
If you can wind your way through an airport like
the one in Ohio, you been.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
To that airport?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Uh uh No, she is not suffering any mental deficiency.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
She's not.
Speaker 9 (13:32):
It doesn't appear that she is suffering from any kind
of cognitive deficiency. So one could surmise that she had
at least average intelligence, and she would at the very
least understand that leaving a baby for ten days is
very likely to result in that child's death. Now, does
(13:54):
she have a mental illness is a different question. But
even people who have depression, anxiety, even more serious mental
health disorders still can have an understanding of what would
happen to a baby being left for that long. So
(14:15):
for me, it's difficult to imagine how there's going to
be a defense that says that her mental illness had
something to do with this, because having a mental health
condition doesn't render you incapable of understanding what would happen
to a child after ten days alone.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
You just heard a high profile clinical psychologist, doctor Heidie Green,
state that, hey, did she not understand baby dies after
you leave it the line for ten days?
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Halla, Why do you think he threw.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
A bottle of formula in there and some crackers because
she knew the baby with eight She's got one seven
year old child and this is a sixteen month old baby.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Of course, she knows the baby's gonna get hungry. She
knows what happens when a baby doesn't eat or drink.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
See a New Yorker joining me anchor multimedia reporter WOIOTV.
They're in Ohio, Sia, thank you for being with us.
This mom knows exactly what she's doing. Look at all
these selfies. Okay, she's not leaving much to the imagination,
but I'm not the church lady, so I don't care.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
But look at her taking selfies.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Okay, there you go with a full on Kardashian pout
with the mouth.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
And there's another one. Oh yeah, there it is. Yeah.
See those nails, see that lipsticks, see that hair, the makeup.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
This woman is in no way mentally or emotionally deficient.
Uh huh, Siah, what can you tell me about this woman?
Speaker 3 (15:54):
What I could tell you is that, you know, during
all of this, the came out, they showed these photos.
You know, like you mentioned, we saw tickets, we saw receipts.
She was able to get on a plane, she was
able to travel. You know, she came back. She was
caught on many you know, surveillance videos, and so people
(16:15):
there in the courtroom felt a sense they weren't buying it.
No one was buying that. And you know, this is
not to say that she doesn't suffer from some kind
of mental illness, but as far as leaving her sixteen
month old child alone in that playpen for that long
of a period, no one was buying that.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Okay, I'm with you on that, Derek Smith.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Before I go to bury Golden from US Marshalls Service,
Derek Smith, does your client have some sort of a
mental deficiency like that I don't know about. Was she
having a psychotic break when she was dancing on the
Puerto Rican beach while her baby starved?
Speaker 1 (16:56):
To night faces?
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Oh, that's what we were searching for. The State.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
Did their exam evaluated her for the sanity at the
time of the act and for just overall her sanity,
and then our own expert evaluated her. They did have
a provisional diagnosis of borderline personality disorder along with anxiety
and depressiment.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Hold on, I got to write that down. Borderline?
Speaker 2 (17:19):
What borderline personality disorder?
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Can you name.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
One person, one person you graduated with from law school
that you're not convinced has some sort of a personality
disorder and depression?
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah, that sets in.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
About week three first year when you find out that's
what you got to do the next three years and
then have to represent clients.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
You know, did it?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I mean that would throw me over the edge. Personality disorder?
What personality disorder? Let me cross examining you just a minute.
What personality disorder?
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Do this woman have? Just a disorder?
Speaker 6 (17:53):
Well, she was hospitalized in February four what she thought
was complex migraines because her old bio he was left
side of her body was just numb and she was
in bed for days.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
Her parents took her.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
She seemed to have gotten over that on the beach.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
In Case says, nothing was numb on that beach, all right.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
So what's the personality disorder? Histrionic? Maybe extreme narcissist. Wait, Derek,
I know your trial record.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Okay, Yeah, You're not going to win on a narcissistic
personality disorder because jurors will hate somebody. You know, Narcissus,
the Greek player in mythology who fell in love with
his own reflection and ultimately wanted to get closer and
closer to his own reflection, fell into the water and
(18:45):
I think died. That's the genesis of the narcissistic personality Moniker.
So somebody thinking of just himself, that's not convincing me.
Is there anything else you can throw at me? Come on,
hit me. I'm ready.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
So she was taking effects her and depicote, and she was.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
What is that they're off brand?
Speaker 6 (19:09):
What that was to treat what they thought was episodes
of epilepsy and seizures. Didn't have that, yep. And then
the effects her was that was treated to help her migraines.
It was supposed to help her pain. But those are
all They're both antidepressants, yeah, and they work with the
neurotransmitters in the brain. And she's not only taking them.
(19:32):
There was a medical record that she was abusing them.
She ran out when she shouldn't have, but they refilled it.
And then a few weeks before this happened, she ran
out and stopped all medications. Another red flag. You can't
do that, ask you know, can ask the psychiatrist here
on the panel.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I contain you this much, Derek Smith. She is feeling
no pain in these selfies or on the beach. So
you're and again this is why he wins cases. He
looked right at me and said, her disorder is she
thinks about herself all the time, narcissistic, and she has
(20:12):
headaches and she was takingsolet epilepsy medication which she really
was an epileptic and a flexor what was that.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
For, Derek?
Speaker 5 (20:24):
They treated that all headaches for.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Right, Okay, So that is not a personality disorder, Doctor
Heidie Green just in the gyuest, No, does that equal
a personality disorder? Migrain meds and epilepsy meds.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
No, Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Joining you right now is Barry Golden, former Senior inspector
US Marshall Service, owner of Golden Consulting and Investigations.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Mary Golden.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
This woman was in Puerto Rico, isn't it true? I
mean you've gone all over the world apprehending violent fellas.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Isn't it True's true?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
When you leave, for instance, the Ohio airport, and you
travel out of the country to another country, you have
to be able to show your passport, your ID, probably
still your COVID shot proof, all sorts of red tape.
You have to go through to get into Puerto Rico,
even though it's one of our territories. Isn't that true?
Speaker 5 (21:23):
That is true? Nancy, thank you for having me.
Speaker 10 (21:25):
And those are the things that I thought of when
I looked at this case. And the first person and foremost,
she thought about the welfare of this child by preparing
some bottles of milk or formula, because she thought right
then and there before she left for the airport, she
packed her luggage, put these bottles into the plate pen,
and then thought, well, she needed something to drink.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
She's going to need something.
Speaker 10 (21:49):
And then she completely forgot about it, packed her luggage,
got in a taxi or drove herself to the airport,
and then went through the airport, like you said, like
normal people. She did the things that normal people of
a normal mental capacity do go through TSA hop on
an airplane. She didn't go through TSA with the bazook
or handguns or something like that. Crazy. She went as
(22:11):
a normal person through the checkpoint, got on a plane,
didn't cause any problems on an airplane, landed in Puerto Rico,
and did all the things that people do on vacation,
go to the beach. She cared for herself. She did
not take a shower for ten days. Okay, she ate
for ten days. She did all these things that normal
(22:32):
people do. And then she comes back and she freaks
out that her baby is dead when she gets home.
It took her ten days until she finds out and
sees her baby lying there in filth to realize this,
and then she goes haywire.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Guys, I want you to hear Anna Faraglia, the prosecutor
in this case.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Listen to what she said.
Speaker 11 (22:56):
Crystal Candelaria loved the stainable. On six ' four, twenty
twenty three, she leaves because there is a receipt that's
found in her car that she is in Taylor, Michigan.
Unbeknownst to miss Candelario, her neighbors had ring doorbell, and
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the Cleveland Police Department Homicide Unit has gone.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
Through six hundred and forty eight.
Speaker 11 (23:27):
Hours and videos of the ring doorbell which you're going
to see in this presentation.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
The state goes through nearly seven hundred hours of ring
doorbell video until they hear the baby Jayleen screaming for food,
for water, for mommy, anything and more from Anna Farauglia.
Speaker 7 (23:51):
Listen with regards to Miss Candelaria.
Speaker 11 (23:55):
She returns to Caiaga County on six ' six at
seven forty one am. So at this particular point we
have reason to believe that this child was left alone
for two days now, and she returns on sixty six,
twenty twenty three. Additional cameras show her again at eleven
(24:25):
fifty one on sixty six, and on five point twenty
four of sixty six, she is taking a suitcase and
now leaving Cuyahoga.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
County see New Yorker, joining US anchor multimedia reporter WIOTV.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
In Cleveland, SIA.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Could you describe the condition Jayleen was in when authorities
found her.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
It was it was heartbreaking. They found the baby severely dehydrated, starved,
thirteen pounds, fingernails, oral cavity, caked in feces, her own feces,
and I mean it was awful. It was awful, and
(25:15):
you know, we knew pieces of that. But to see
photos and to hear those cries, it was devastating to
hear that. In the courtroom, I witnessed many of the
law enforcement that were there wiping away tears and just
mountaining open.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
This little girl's cries echoed through the streets of her.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Neighborhood in the dead of the night.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
This baby girl whimpered, she screamed, she howled, she cried,
but no one came to her rescue. Why her mother,
Crystal Candelario, was away on a ten day summer vacation
and left her alone in a pack and play with a.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Few bottles of milk. That's ill.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
That's all the sixteen month old baby girl screaming, including
around one am, two days after mommy leaves her. But
where is mommy? Hundreds and hundreds of miles away in
Puerto Rico with a male friend. After a few days
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at the beach, then another stop to Detroit, where she
finds her baby caked in feces.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Her own feces.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Were Apparently the baby tried to eat her own feces
to live. To doctor Eric Eston, renowned forensic pathologist, Doctor Eston,
death by starvation or dehydration is a slow and painful death.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Describe.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Yes, so your body runs out of fluids and the
body runs out of electrolytes, and it takes a long
time for that to occur. And yeah, it's a slow
and painful way to go. Very unfortunate doctor.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
According to documents we've managed to obtain, this little sixteen
month old girl, Jayleen, was emaciated, with sunken eyes, dry lips,
and faces in her mouth and fingernails. She weighed seven
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pounds less than she did at her last doctor's visit.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Seven pounds less. What does that mean.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
I mean she lost a lot of weight due to
lack of nourishment. You know, she was left with just
that bottle of formula, but when that ran out, she
had then get energy from whatever muscle mass or batty
tissue was left. And then when that was all depleted,
death is going to occur because there's nothing left to
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pro long.
Speaker 12 (28:08):
Life crime stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 11 (28:22):
So when we look at these are items from her phone,
her actions indicate to us that she is in Puerto Rico.
Speaker 7 (28:31):
Having a good time with.
Speaker 11 (28:33):
Friends, and that there is not a care in the
world about the sixteen month old that was left.
Speaker 7 (28:43):
Alone in the pack and play.
Speaker 11 (28:46):
These pictures show somebody who is showing some discretion and
judgment because she's having a good time. Meanwhile, this child
is in a pack and play.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
See New Yorkers joining us w O IOTV. What is
a prosecutor talking about Anna for Auglia?
Speaker 1 (29:05):
What is she talking about? Items from mommy's phone.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
She's talking about all of the social media posts. She's
talking about all the photos that she posted while she
was away in Puerto Rico, in Detroit, the receipts, the
phone calls she made. She was, you know, laying out
all of the evidence. What were the pictures and photos
she was on the beach, She was you know, with
(29:32):
different friends. She was smiling, she was taking selfies, she
was having a you know, it looked like she was
having a lovely time.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Okay, Derek Smith, you got assigned.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
You you took this case.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
How do you and I'm going to withhold judgment. I'm
curious how do you fight a case?
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Your defense is going to be some sort of mental
impairment or as you said, personally disorder where a jury
is going to say, hey, do I believe you are
my lion eyes when I'm looking at all these selfies
and the good times she's having in Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Hey, you ever been through you ever been on the
international flight?
Speaker 9 (30:13):
I have.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
I took one recently and nearly got arrested in Aruba
with Nalie Holloway's mother.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
It's taking them all this time.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
They still having arrested Gorn Vandersloop for murder, but they
wanted to arrest me and Natalie's mother. That said, I
had to go through a lot of cr ap crap
to get to Aruba, through customs, through this, through that.
How do you fight a case full of phone evidence
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when and you're claiming personality disorder?
Speaker 5 (30:46):
You don't.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
What do you mean by that? You don't You can't.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
You can't fight obvious facts.
Speaker 6 (30:53):
I mean you go in there and try to make
up stories that are totally off somewhere. No one's going
to believe. You're gonna lose your credibility right from the start.
You cannot dispute intersputable facts. It just can't happen.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yeah, you know what, You're right, Derek, And I think
that's why you win so many cases, because you take
what you've got and then you work with that and
you spin it into the best scenario that you can
so working with these facts, I hear doctor Heidi Green
jumping in, go ahead, doctor Green.
Speaker 9 (31:31):
Yes, I just wanted to mention that people with personality
disorders are everywhere.
Speaker 7 (31:38):
They aren't murdering people.
Speaker 9 (31:40):
It's a fairly common mental health condition, as is anxiety,
as is depression. And even if this mother had let's say,
all of the mental health conditions that have been thrown
out here, drug abuse, depression, narcissistic personality, borderline personality disorder,
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none of these things make a person a murderer. And
what's important to remember is that she had ten days here.
Speaker 7 (32:11):
All she needed was one second, one second.
Speaker 9 (32:15):
Of clarity that said, oh my gosh, I need to
tell someone.
Speaker 7 (32:19):
I need to tell someone i'm with. I need to
call nine one one.
Speaker 9 (32:22):
I need to call my doctor, I need to call
a family member. She wasn't psychotic, at least her attorney
hasn't said that. She didn't suffer from a cognitive impairment.
At least her attorney hasn't said that, And so it's
difficult to believe that, even if she had multiple mental
health conditions, that over the course of ten days, she
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didn't have a single second of clarity that would result
in her telling someone that her baby needed help.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Guys, take a listen to prosecutor Anna for Auglia.
Speaker 11 (32:56):
Now we turned our attention to June sixteenth, at seven
point thirty six am. She is back in Cayahaga County.
Her car reappears in front of her house. She goes
(33:17):
in and she finds her daughter dead. She takes the
time to redress her.
Speaker 7 (33:25):
And then she calls nine to.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
One one Barry Golden.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Derek Smith contests that he is Kendeloreo's lawyer. He said
the redressing did not occur, and there's a reason he's
picking that particular fact to dispute his claim is that
defense claim is that his client had multiple personality disorders
as she was possibly abusing prescription drugs that put her
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in an altered mental state. He is contesting. He's going
along with the photo evidence that he cannot refute. He's
going along with the text evidence that he cannot refute.
But he is challenging that one fact by the prosecutor
for a very critical reason because if his client took
the time in a moment of lucidity and sanity to
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redress the child, Barry and she clearly knew the implications
of what she had done and tried to cover it up.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Agreed, disagree? And why why would.
Speaker 10 (34:26):
The prosecutor bring those facts into a court of law
to a judge if they weren't true. The investigators went
to that crime scene, and that would have been easy
to determine whether those clothes have been on that child
for ten days with feces and all this stuff all
over the clothes, or if the clothes were clean. That's
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clear and concise evidence right there that either she changed
the child or they were feces. If this child had
feces in her mouth, on her body everywhere, they would
have been on the as well. And if these clothes
were clean, then she obviously changed the baby. I don't
know why the prosecutor would present these facts in a
court room to the judge if they weren't facts that
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came from the investigators.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Guys, I want you to hear Candelorio on BODYCM what
she says to police when they arrived.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Listen last night.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
She was screaming.
Speaker 7 (35:26):
And I see one moment when I was staying take
a shower knee and she was she was screaming.
Speaker 9 (35:35):
I don't know how.
Speaker 7 (35:36):
Believe she getting pain?
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Okay about what time was that last night?
Speaker 13 (35:42):
Maybe I would say it, yeah, okay, So she was screaming,
you know, for page in this morning when I would up,
you know, I said, I took her into one.
Speaker 11 (35:59):
When I see her.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Seeing New Yorker joining US anchor multimedia reporter WIOTV there
in this jurisdiction, Sia. Now I know hearing that statement
that his client gave to police was like a knife
to the heart because you can no longer claim, hey,
she's not lucid, she's crazy. She's on these mats, she's
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not supposed to be on them. She's out of her mind,
personality disorder, migraines. Here she is flying out, lying and
very lucid and coherent, and I would like to say,
very articulate as she lies to her teeth about being
there the night before.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
What is this statement? What does it mean? Sea New Yorker?
Speaker 3 (36:47):
The video doesn't lie. There were videos, there were phone calls,
there were records, the photos. You know, she's sitting there
telling the investigators this story, sorry, and it's not matching up.
And they know it. They know it's not matching up.
It didn't make any sense.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Two, doctor Eric Eson, renowned pathologist and consultant. Doctor Eson.
We have been talking about the mom and how she
lied and her romantic getaway with an unnamed male boyfriend.
But I want to bring us back to reality.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Now.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
I know this is a part of your job that
you don't like, and I know, Derek Smith, that you
don't want to hear this, But these are the facts.
How would Jayleen have been found? What state would she
have been in? You heard emaciated, this little baby's eyes
sunken in, feces under her nails, in her mouth, dried
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where apparently she was trying to eat anything she could find.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Describe the saying, h well, we heard a lot about it,
you know, feces in the in the bascinette, or it
was the pack and play I think it was. You know,
this question about the clothing and whether she was redressed,
A lot of that is going to be found in
the autops of report. So it's going to describe whatever
clothing the child was wearing when death occurred, And there's
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going to be clues in the autops of your report
about when the death actually occurred. So if the death occurred,
you know, several days before being found, then you're probably
going to start seeing signs of decomposition on the body,
skin discoloration, and what we call skin slippage, where the
skin will start to peel off itself.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
As please don't trip over that so lightly skin as
you say, and this is certainly a euphemism skin slippage
that sounds like nada, your your your skirt slipped, But
this is when you're skin comes apart your you're decaying
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and your.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
Skin peels off itself, Yes, slips right right and see.
And it's rare to see signs of decomposition in an
infant or a child because most of these deaths occur
and the child will be found within minutes or hours later.
So you have infants found in an unsafe sleep environment,
you know, when the death occurs, you know, minutes or
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hours later they're found. But it's rare to have a
child or an infant be found decomposing.
Speaker 7 (39:33):
It's pretty rare.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
And that's what you're going to see when the body
starts decomposing.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Derek Smith is a very well known defense attorney who
took on Crystal Candelario's case. Derek, I just got to
ask you something you got in court and you gave
it your all.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
You did everything you could for her.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Not this case, because I know you can't comment on
this case, but how do you deal with defending other
cases with such disturbing facts? Because I know, as a
prosecutor sometimes going over the court house, I'd have to
just pull off the road and just sit there like
what what happened?
Speaker 1 (40:19):
How?
Speaker 2 (40:19):
How could somebody do this? But in your situation, you
have to keep going.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
Yeah, it wasn't easy.
Speaker 6 (40:30):
Fortunately a colleague of mind, Patrick Milligan and I, I
mean we're able to kind of we both have children,
his little older than mind, but we were able to,
you know, kind of help each other out when we
were struggling with these pictures and some of these facts.
And it's good to have, you know, other attorneys to
help you kind of through these things because we're human too,
and it's it's very difficult to see and even now
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going over it again, I mean a lot of sleepless
nights trying to figure out what the hell she was thinking?
Speaker 5 (41:00):
What would was that somebody to do something?
Speaker 1 (41:02):
If I got to give it to you, I got
to give it to you. Derek Smith.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
While I completely disagree with you, and I certainly do
not want your job. You got in there and you fought,
you fought, and you got her the best deal she
could have gotten. That judge, I got to say, really
gave her hell at sentencing, and you stood right beside
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her throughout see New Yorker.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
This is a very tough case for me as a mom.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
When I think about my twins at that age, they're
really premature, so they were really small. But when I
hear that ring cam from the neighbor of the baby
just screaming for something to eat or drink, or mommy
or somebody, and she died in that pack and play,
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day after day after day, losing seven pounds in ten days.
Tell me in that courtroom, how did the judge respond?
Speaker 3 (42:04):
It was gut wrenching, And the judge even said in
his sentencing he said, the baby waited. Baby Jit then
waited for as long as she could. You know, ten
days you were going. But you know, after the medical
examiner and everybody laid out, she waited for as long
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as she could. You know, she stood at a long
and agonizing death, but she waited for somebody to come
help her. And there was no help. Her mother was
nowhere to be.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Found, and I wish I could just take this baby
and raise her myself. But now this baby is in
heaven and mommy is behind bars.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Goodbye friend,
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Did a thirty two year old mother lounge and frolic
on a Puerto Rican beach while her little baby died
in a playpen. As a matter of fact, I don't
(00:27):
like listening to it, but as I've told so many juries,
I can't even count them anymore. You can't turn away
from the evidence. You're on this jury. You're in the
box and you have to look at it and you
have to listen to it, whether you hate it or not.
I have listened over and over to a neighbor's ring
(00:51):
doorbell cam. You can't see anything, but I can hear.
I can hear reportedly baby Jalen screaming. Now, this is
on about day three of no food, no water, no mommy,
(01:14):
no daddy, no nothing. Now I'm going to find out
from a veteran investigative reporter, is it true that this
little baby girl, just sixteen months old, was found in
a playpen like a pack and play, with excrement, her
(01:40):
own faces, her own poop smeared on her lips, in
her mouth dried as a little thing was trying to
find something to eat?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Is this real?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
And joining us today is the man who defends mommy,
high profile lawyer joining us Derek Smith again, I Nancy Grace,
this is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us
here at Crime Stories and on Serious XM one eleven.
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Brace yourself and you've got to listen really carefully to
hear what I believe is baby Jayleen screaming from mommy. Listen,
(02:48):
you have to listen very carefully. But I hear baby
Jayleen screaming for mommy. Did mommy actually go this? Ohio?
Mom to lounge and frolic? And I say frolic because
I've seen photos of her that looks as if she's
dancing on a beach in Puerto Rico. There she is,
(03:11):
beautiful young woman. My boy, can looks be deceiving? Is
that Crystal Candelario on a Puerto Rican beach? If so,
where's baby? Where's baby Jayleen? Where is her other seven
year old daughter? Joining me in all star panel to
(03:33):
makes sense of what we know? But right now, but
this is this is what I understand to Sea New Yorker,
joining US anchor and multimedia reporter at wo Io Siah,
thank you for being with us. Let me understand something.
I'm about to play a nine to one one call.
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Now is this nine one one call? I want you
to listen to it, Sea and tell me it is
what happens when mommy finally drags home.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Listen, what does.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
She think was going to happen? Leaving her baby alone
for ten days? Okay, Sea, New Yorker joining US w
O I O t V. See again, thank you for
being with us. When was the night on one call?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Mate?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
It was made the day she came back on June sixteenth,
And again, prosecutors told us that that nine one one
called came after she returned and after she had redressed
the baby. So the baby Jalen had.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Already stop stop stop stop? Uh oh See New Yorker,
did you.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Just say after she refter dressed the baby, after.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
She redressed the baby, And that was new information that
came out in court? And I felt I watched people
in court their mouths just they were covering their mouths.
I mean, we were just shocked. That was shocking information.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Okay, before I play the rest of the nine one
one call, uh Sean New Yorker joining US w O IOTV.
Derek Smith, did you know the allegation that your client
came home?
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Now?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Wait, sees the baby, then redresses the baby and nice
fresh clothes, I guess, and then screams into the phone.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
You did or did you learn that.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
It did not happen?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
That did not happen?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Okay, all right, guys, Derek Smith wins a lot of cases.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Okay, did you just see him? Look, look, look right
at me and go that didn't happen. That did not happen.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
You know what, if I'm ever charged with a felony,
I'm calling Derek Smith. He looked right at the camera
and said that did not happen. Okay, let's listen to
more of that nine one one called Brace Yourself.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Derek Smith? Why why? Why? Why? Because you left her
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alone for ten days? That's why? Why? Why?
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Derek?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Again, why is your client screaming into nine on one climbing?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Why? Why? Why? When she left the baby alone for
ten days? What did she think was gonna happen?
Speaker 6 (07:16):
I asked myself that question. Still today, we still don't
have a clear answer. She couldn't articulate why she did it,
what she was thinking when she just up and left
her with a couple bottles of formula and some baby
cookies and crackers in her pack.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
And play when she up and left.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
There's more to that nine one one call to that
wasn't necessarily played at the sentencing. She did perform CPR
on Jayleen after that when Jayleen, you know, according to
my clients, squeezed.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Her finger and she was saying that she still was
not gone.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
It's okay, hold on right there, Let's not put perfume
on the pig.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
And you say gone, I know what that means, because
for the longest time and even now, it's hard for
me to say these words. Keith is dead. That was
my fiance, Keith. I would say gone, he's gone. So
let's just force ourselves to say the truth. Derek Smith
(08:30):
is a high profile lawyer who represents Crystal Candelario. When
you say your client came in and squeezed her baby's
finger and that she wasn't gone, you mean your client
says she wasn't dead.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Is that right?
Speaker 5 (08:46):
That's correct?
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
To doctor Eric Easton, doctor Eric Easton joining US Board
Certified Forensic Pathologist and consultant on Facebook. Eric August Easton,
doctor Ason, thank you for being with us. How long
can a human live without anything to drink?
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Probably no more than a couple of days is what
we usually say.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
I've had.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
I'm aware of cases that I had in Georgia where
an infant was left for a couple of days and
the belief was that she could have survived no more
than like three or four days.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
At best, certainly not ten days.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
No, if the baby had a bottle of formula, or
let's just say two bottles of formula and the pack
and play and the baby had that, how long could
the baby live a.
Speaker 7 (09:36):
Couple more days?
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Of course, but it's tough to say. You know, each
individual is different, so it's very tough to say exactly
how long this baby would have lived. So many factors
to consider, but it would have prolonged the survival time
for sure.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, the so called killer Ohio mom,
Crystal Candelario lounges on a Puerto Rican beach after leaving
her baby daughter.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Just a few months old, for ten days.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
And oh, dear Lord in Heaven, you know how many
people across this country would pay lots of money to
have a beautiful baby like that? Okay, what more do
we know? Listen to Dave Matt Crime Online.
Speaker 8 (10:28):
Crystal Candelaria is off on a ten day whirlwind of
adventure in romance. Ring doorbell video from a neighbor shows
Candelaria hauling her suitcase to a car as she heads
out of town, and she's posting pictures from the beginning
of her trip about her best life adventure back at
home in Cleveland, Ohio in the late night early morning hours.
That same ring doorbell camera that catches Candelaria loading her
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suitcase into a car before leaving now is picking up
the faint sounds of a crying baby.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Oh, I've played it for you. I'm not going to
play it again. Joining me right now.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Doctor Heidie Green, clinical psychologist and trauma specialist, author of
The Path to Self Love and World Domination. I don't
know if I want to go that far. You can
find her at doctor Heidigreen dot com. Doctor Heidie, thank
you for.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Being with us. What does that mean?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
A world wind trip of adventure and romance? Earlier this morning,
I could hardly think straight because I know my daughter
has a math, a chemistry and what is the other one?
Ap literature test and she worked her fingers to the
bone for days. She's been studying till eleven thirty and
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twelve at night, and my son has the same rigorous
testing schedule that was earlier this morning. I could hardly
think straight because I was worried, not whether they'll pass,
but I was worried about them, and there was nothing
I could do to help them get through a seemingly
very very difficult cult trial. How do you leave for
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ten days of adventure and romance and get on a
plane and fly to Puerto Rico and leave the baby
in a pack and play with a bottle? How does
that happen? Adventure and romance my rear end.
Speaker 9 (12:17):
It's unfathomable, truly, And when we're looking at it from
a mental health perspective, there can be questions such as,
was there were there cognitive issues? Did she not understand
that her child would die?
Speaker 2 (12:33):
But wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, Nider, Heidi,
I'm certainly not a shrink. You are the high profile
clinical psychologist, not me. But if you know how to
wind your way through a major metropolitan airport and get
through TSA and pull out your driver's license and put
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your face up and do this and that and find
the gate and get on when they call you and drink, drink,
and then frolic and I know Derek Smitha hates that world.
His client was frolicking on the beach doing jigs and dances.
There are other photos of her arms up in the
air like she's doing, you.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Know, a yoga stretch. Stop a mommy. She just not
mentally ill.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
If you can wind your way through an airport like
the one in Ohio, you been.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
To that airport?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Uh uh No, she is not suffering any mental deficiency.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
She's not.
Speaker 9 (13:32):
It doesn't appear that she is suffering from any kind
of cognitive deficiency. So one could surmise that she had
at least average intelligence, and she would at the very
least understand that leaving a baby for ten days is
very likely to result in that child's death. Now, does
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she have a mental illness is a different question. But
even people who have depression, anxiety, even more serious mental
health disorders still can have an understanding of what would
happen to a baby being left for that long. So
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for me, it's difficult to imagine how there's going to
be a defense that says that her mental illness had
something to do with this, because having a mental health
condition doesn't render you incapable of understanding what would happen
to a child after ten days alone.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
You just heard a high profile clinical psychologist, doctor Heidie Green,
state that, hey, did she not understand baby dies after
you leave it the line for ten days?
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Halla, Why do you think he threw.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
A bottle of formula in there and some crackers because
she knew the baby with eight She's got one seven
year old child and this is a sixteen month old baby.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Of course, she knows the baby's gonna get hungry. She
knows what happens when a baby doesn't eat or drink.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
See a New Yorker joining me anchor multimedia reporter WOIOTV.
They're in Ohio, Sia, thank you for being with us.
This mom knows exactly what she's doing. Look at all
these selfies. Okay, she's not leaving much to the imagination,
but I'm not the church lady, so I don't care.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
But look at her taking selfies.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Okay, there you go with a full on Kardashian pout
with the mouth.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
And there's another one. Oh yeah, there it is. Yeah.
See those nails, see that lipsticks, see that hair, the makeup.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
This woman is in no way mentally or emotionally deficient.
Uh huh, Siah, what can you tell me about this woman?
Speaker 3 (15:54):
What I could tell you is that, you know, during
all of this, the came out, they showed these photos.
You know, like you mentioned, we saw tickets, we saw receipts.
She was able to get on a plane, she was
able to travel. You know, she came back. She was
caught on many you know, surveillance videos, and so people
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there in the courtroom felt a sense they weren't buying it.
No one was buying that. And you know, this is
not to say that she doesn't suffer from some kind
of mental illness, but as far as leaving her sixteen
month old child alone in that playpen for that long
of a period, no one was buying that.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Okay, I'm with you on that, Derek Smith.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Before I go to bury Golden from US Marshalls Service,
Derek Smith, does your client have some sort of a
mental deficiency like that I don't know about. Was she
having a psychotic break when she was dancing on the
Puerto Rican beach while her baby starved?
Speaker 1 (16:56):
To night faces?
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Oh, that's what we were searching for. The State.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
Did their exam evaluated her for the sanity at the
time of the act and for just overall her sanity,
and then our own expert evaluated her. They did have
a provisional diagnosis of borderline personality disorder along with anxiety
and depressiment.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Hold on, I got to write that down. Borderline?
Speaker 2 (17:19):
What borderline personality disorder?
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Can you name.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
One person, one person you graduated with from law school
that you're not convinced has some sort of a personality
disorder and depression?
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah, that sets in.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
About week three first year when you find out that's
what you got to do the next three years and
then have to represent clients.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
You know, did it?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I mean that would throw me over the edge. Personality disorder?
What personality disorder? Let me cross examining you just a minute.
What personality disorder?
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Do this woman have? Just a disorder?
Speaker 6 (17:53):
Well, she was hospitalized in February four what she thought
was complex migraines because her old bio he was left
side of her body was just numb and she was
in bed for days.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
Her parents took her.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
She seemed to have gotten over that on the beach.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
In Case says, nothing was numb on that beach, all right.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
So what's the personality disorder? Histrionic? Maybe extreme narcissist. Wait, Derek,
I know your trial record.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Okay, Yeah, You're not going to win on a narcissistic
personality disorder because jurors will hate somebody. You know, Narcissus,
the Greek player in mythology who fell in love with
his own reflection and ultimately wanted to get closer and
closer to his own reflection, fell into the water and
(18:45):
I think died. That's the genesis of the narcissistic personality Moniker.
So somebody thinking of just himself, that's not convincing me.
Is there anything else you can throw at me? Come on,
hit me. I'm ready.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
So she was taking effects her and depicote, and she was.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
What is that they're off brand?
Speaker 6 (19:09):
What that was to treat what they thought was episodes
of epilepsy and seizures. Didn't have that, yep. And then
the effects her was that was treated to help her migraines.
It was supposed to help her pain. But those are
all They're both antidepressants, yeah, and they work with the
neurotransmitters in the brain. And she's not only taking them.
(19:32):
There was a medical record that she was abusing them.
She ran out when she shouldn't have, but they refilled it.
And then a few weeks before this happened, she ran
out and stopped all medications. Another red flag. You can't
do that, ask you know, can ask the psychiatrist here
on the panel.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I contain you this much, Derek Smith. She is feeling
no pain in these selfies or on the beach. So
you're and again this is why he wins cases. He
looked right at me and said, her disorder is she
thinks about herself all the time, narcissistic, and she has
(20:12):
headaches and she was takingsolet epilepsy medication which she really
was an epileptic and a flexor what was that.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
For, Derek?
Speaker 5 (20:24):
They treated that all headaches for.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Right, Okay, So that is not a personality disorder, Doctor
Heidie Green just in the gyuest, No, does that equal
a personality disorder? Migrain meds and epilepsy meds.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
No, Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Joining you right now is Barry Golden, former Senior inspector
US Marshall Service, owner of Golden Consulting and Investigations.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Mary Golden.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
This woman was in Puerto Rico, isn't it true? I
mean you've gone all over the world apprehending violent fellas.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Isn't it True's true?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
When you leave, for instance, the Ohio airport, and you
travel out of the country to another country, you have
to be able to show your passport, your ID, probably
still your COVID shot proof, all sorts of red tape.
You have to go through to get into Puerto Rico,
even though it's one of our territories. Isn't that true?
Speaker 5 (21:23):
That is true? Nancy, thank you for having me.
Speaker 10 (21:25):
And those are the things that I thought of when
I looked at this case. And the first person and foremost,
she thought about the welfare of this child by preparing
some bottles of milk or formula, because she thought right
then and there before she left for the airport, she
packed her luggage, put these bottles into the plate pen,
and then thought, well, she needed something to drink.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
She's going to need something.
Speaker 10 (21:49):
And then she completely forgot about it, packed her luggage,
got in a taxi or drove herself to the airport,
and then went through the airport, like you said, like
normal people. She did the things that normal people of
a normal mental capacity do go through TSA hop on
an airplane. She didn't go through TSA with the bazook
or handguns or something like that. Crazy. She went as
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a normal person through the checkpoint, got on a plane,
didn't cause any problems on an airplane, landed in Puerto Rico,
and did all the things that people do on vacation,
go to the beach. She cared for herself. She did
not take a shower for ten days. Okay, she ate
for ten days. She did all these things that normal
(22:32):
people do. And then she comes back and she freaks
out that her baby is dead when she gets home.
It took her ten days until she finds out and
sees her baby lying there in filth to realize this,
and then she goes haywire.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Guys, I want you to hear Anna Faraglia, the prosecutor
in this case.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Listen to what she said.
Speaker 11 (22:56):
Crystal Candelaria loved the stainable. On six ' four, twenty
twenty three, she leaves because there is a receipt that's
found in her car that she is in Taylor, Michigan.
Unbeknownst to miss Candelario, her neighbors had ring doorbell, and
(23:17):
the Cleveland Police Department Homicide Unit has gone.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
Through six hundred and forty eight.
Speaker 11 (23:27):
Hours and videos of the ring doorbell which you're going
to see in this presentation.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
The state goes through nearly seven hundred hours of ring
doorbell video until they hear the baby Jayleen screaming for food,
for water, for mommy, anything and more from Anna Farauglia.
Speaker 7 (23:51):
Listen with regards to Miss Candelaria.
Speaker 11 (23:55):
She returns to Caiaga County on six ' six at
seven forty one am. So at this particular point we
have reason to believe that this child was left alone
for two days now, and she returns on sixty six,
twenty twenty three. Additional cameras show her again at eleven
(24:25):
fifty one on sixty six, and on five point twenty
four of sixty six, she is taking a suitcase and
now leaving Cuyahoga.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
County see New Yorker, joining US anchor multimedia reporter WIOTV.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
In Cleveland, SIA.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Could you describe the condition Jayleen was in when authorities
found her.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
It was it was heartbreaking. They found the baby severely dehydrated, starved,
thirteen pounds, fingernails, oral cavity, caked in feces, her own feces,
and I mean it was awful. It was awful, and
(25:15):
you know, we knew pieces of that. But to see
photos and to hear those cries, it was devastating to
hear that. In the courtroom, I witnessed many of the
law enforcement that were there wiping away tears and just
mountaining open.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
This little girl's cries echoed through the streets of her.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Neighborhood in the dead of the night.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
This baby girl whimpered, she screamed, she howled, she cried,
but no one came to her rescue. Why her mother,
Crystal Candelario, was away on a ten day summer vacation
and left her alone in a pack and play with a.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Few bottles of milk. That's ill.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
That's all the sixteen month old baby girl screaming, including
around one am, two days after mommy leaves her. But
where is mommy? Hundreds and hundreds of miles away in
Puerto Rico with a male friend. After a few days
(26:24):
at the beach, then another stop to Detroit, where she
finds her baby caked in feces.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Her own feces.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Were Apparently the baby tried to eat her own feces
to live. To doctor Eric Eston, renowned forensic pathologist, Doctor Eston,
death by starvation or dehydration is a slow and painful death.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Describe.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Yes, so your body runs out of fluids and the
body runs out of electrolytes, and it takes a long
time for that to occur. And yeah, it's a slow
and painful way to go. Very unfortunate doctor.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
According to documents we've managed to obtain, this little sixteen
month old girl, Jayleen, was emaciated, with sunken eyes, dry lips,
and faces in her mouth and fingernails. She weighed seven
(27:36):
pounds less than she did at her last doctor's visit.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Seven pounds less. What does that mean.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
I mean she lost a lot of weight due to
lack of nourishment. You know, she was left with just
that bottle of formula, but when that ran out, she
had then get energy from whatever muscle mass or batty
tissue was left. And then when that was all depleted,
death is going to occur because there's nothing left to
(28:07):
pro long.
Speaker 12 (28:08):
Life crime stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 11 (28:22):
So when we look at these are items from her phone,
her actions indicate to us that she is in Puerto Rico.
Speaker 7 (28:31):
Having a good time with.
Speaker 11 (28:33):
Friends, and that there is not a care in the
world about the sixteen month old that was left.
Speaker 7 (28:43):
Alone in the pack and play.
Speaker 11 (28:46):
These pictures show somebody who is showing some discretion and
judgment because she's having a good time. Meanwhile, this child
is in a pack and play.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
See New Yorkers joining us w O IOTV. What is
a prosecutor talking about Anna for Auglia?
Speaker 1 (29:05):
What is she talking about? Items from mommy's phone.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
She's talking about all of the social media posts. She's
talking about all the photos that she posted while she
was away in Puerto Rico, in Detroit, the receipts, the
phone calls she made. She was, you know, laying out
all of the evidence. What were the pictures and photos
she was on the beach, She was you know, with
(29:32):
different friends. She was smiling, she was taking selfies, she
was having a you know, it looked like she was
having a lovely time.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Okay, Derek Smith, you got assigned.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
You you took this case.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
How do you and I'm going to withhold judgment. I'm
curious how do you fight a case?
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Your defense is going to be some sort of mental
impairment or as you said, personally disorder where a jury
is going to say, hey, do I believe you are
my lion eyes when I'm looking at all these selfies
and the good times she's having in Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Hey, you ever been through you ever been on the
international flight?
Speaker 9 (30:13):
I have.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
I took one recently and nearly got arrested in Aruba
with Nalie Holloway's mother.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
It's taking them all this time.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
They still having arrested Gorn Vandersloop for murder, but they
wanted to arrest me and Natalie's mother. That said, I
had to go through a lot of cr ap crap
to get to Aruba, through customs, through this, through that.
How do you fight a case full of phone evidence
(30:42):
when and you're claiming personality disorder?
Speaker 5 (30:46):
You don't.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
What do you mean by that? You don't You can't.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
You can't fight obvious facts.
Speaker 6 (30:53):
I mean you go in there and try to make
up stories that are totally off somewhere. No one's going
to believe. You're gonna lose your credibility right from the start.
You cannot dispute intersputable facts. It just can't happen.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yeah, you know what, You're right, Derek, And I think
that's why you win so many cases, because you take
what you've got and then you work with that and
you spin it into the best scenario that you can
so working with these facts, I hear doctor Heidi Green
jumping in, go ahead, doctor Green.
Speaker 9 (31:31):
Yes, I just wanted to mention that people with personality
disorders are everywhere.
Speaker 7 (31:38):
They aren't murdering people.
Speaker 9 (31:40):
It's a fairly common mental health condition, as is anxiety,
as is depression. And even if this mother had let's say,
all of the mental health conditions that have been thrown
out here, drug abuse, depression, narcissistic personality, borderline personality disorder,
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none of these things make a person a murderer. And
what's important to remember is that she had ten days here.
Speaker 7 (32:11):
All she needed was one second, one second.
Speaker 9 (32:15):
Of clarity that said, oh my gosh, I need to
tell someone.
Speaker 7 (32:19):
I need to tell someone i'm with. I need to
call nine one one.
Speaker 9 (32:22):
I need to call my doctor, I need to call
a family member. She wasn't psychotic, at least her attorney
hasn't said that. She didn't suffer from a cognitive impairment.
At least her attorney hasn't said that, And so it's
difficult to believe that, even if she had multiple mental
health conditions, that over the course of ten days, she
(32:44):
didn't have a single second of clarity that would result
in her telling someone that her baby needed help.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Guys, take a listen to prosecutor Anna for Auglia.
Speaker 11 (32:56):
Now we turned our attention to June sixteenth, at seven
point thirty six am. She is back in Cayahaga County.
Her car reappears in front of her house. She goes
(33:17):
in and she finds her daughter dead. She takes the
time to redress her.
Speaker 7 (33:25):
And then she calls nine to.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
One one Barry Golden.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Derek Smith contests that he is Kendeloreo's lawyer. He said
the redressing did not occur, and there's a reason he's
picking that particular fact to dispute his claim is that
defense claim is that his client had multiple personality disorders
as she was possibly abusing prescription drugs that put her
(33:54):
in an altered mental state. He is contesting. He's going
along with the photo evidence that he cannot refute. He's
going along with the text evidence that he cannot refute.
But he is challenging that one fact by the prosecutor
for a very critical reason because if his client took
the time in a moment of lucidity and sanity to
(34:16):
redress the child, Barry and she clearly knew the implications
of what she had done and tried to cover it up.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Agreed, disagree? And why why would.
Speaker 10 (34:26):
The prosecutor bring those facts into a court of law
to a judge if they weren't true. The investigators went
to that crime scene, and that would have been easy
to determine whether those clothes have been on that child
for ten days with feces and all this stuff all
over the clothes, or if the clothes were clean. That's
(34:49):
clear and concise evidence right there that either she changed
the child or they were feces. If this child had
feces in her mouth, on her body everywhere, they would
have been on the as well. And if these clothes
were clean, then she obviously changed the baby. I don't
know why the prosecutor would present these facts in a
court room to the judge if they weren't facts that
(35:12):
came from the investigators.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Guys, I want you to hear Candelorio on BODYCM what
she says to police when they arrived.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Listen last night.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
She was screaming.
Speaker 7 (35:26):
And I see one moment when I was staying take
a shower knee and she was she was screaming.
Speaker 9 (35:35):
I don't know how.
Speaker 7 (35:36):
Believe she getting pain?
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Okay about what time was that last night?
Speaker 13 (35:42):
Maybe I would say it, yeah, okay, So she was screaming,
you know, for page in this morning when I would up,
you know, I said, I took her into one.
Speaker 11 (35:59):
When I see her.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Seeing New Yorker joining US anchor multimedia reporter WIOTV there
in this jurisdiction, Sia. Now I know hearing that statement
that his client gave to police was like a knife
to the heart because you can no longer claim, hey,
she's not lucid, she's crazy. She's on these mats, she's
(36:24):
not supposed to be on them. She's out of her mind,
personality disorder, migraines. Here she is flying out, lying and
very lucid and coherent, and I would like to say,
very articulate as she lies to her teeth about being
there the night before.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
What is this statement? What does it mean? Sea New Yorker?
Speaker 3 (36:47):
The video doesn't lie. There were videos, there were phone calls,
there were records, the photos. You know, she's sitting there
telling the investigators this story, sorry, and it's not matching up.
And they know it. They know it's not matching up.
It didn't make any sense.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Two, doctor Eric Eson, renowned pathologist and consultant. Doctor Eson.
We have been talking about the mom and how she
lied and her romantic getaway with an unnamed male boyfriend.
But I want to bring us back to reality.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Now.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
I know this is a part of your job that
you don't like, and I know, Derek Smith, that you
don't want to hear this, But these are the facts.
How would Jayleen have been found? What state would she
have been in? You heard emaciated, this little baby's eyes
sunken in, feces under her nails, in her mouth, dried
(37:52):
where apparently she was trying to eat anything she could find.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Describe the saying, h well, we heard a lot about it,
you know, feces in the in the bascinette, or it
was the pack and play I think it was. You know,
this question about the clothing and whether she was redressed,
A lot of that is going to be found in
the autops of report. So it's going to describe whatever
clothing the child was wearing when death occurred, And there's
(38:23):
going to be clues in the autops of your report
about when the death actually occurred. So if the death occurred,
you know, several days before being found, then you're probably
going to start seeing signs of decomposition on the body,
skin discoloration, and what we call skin slippage, where the
skin will start to peel off itself.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
As please don't trip over that so lightly skin as
you say, and this is certainly a euphemism skin slippage
that sounds like nada, your your your skirt slipped, But
this is when you're skin comes apart your you're decaying
(39:05):
and your.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
Skin peels off itself, Yes, slips right right and see.
And it's rare to see signs of decomposition in an
infant or a child because most of these deaths occur
and the child will be found within minutes or hours later.
So you have infants found in an unsafe sleep environment,
you know, when the death occurs, you know, minutes or
(39:26):
hours later they're found. But it's rare to have a
child or an infant be found decomposing.
Speaker 7 (39:33):
It's pretty rare.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
And that's what you're going to see when the body
starts decomposing.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Derek Smith is a very well known defense attorney who
took on Crystal Candelario's case. Derek, I just got to
ask you something you got in court and you gave
it your all.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
You did everything you could for her.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Not this case, because I know you can't comment on
this case, but how do you deal with defending other
cases with such disturbing facts? Because I know, as a
prosecutor sometimes going over the court house, I'd have to
just pull off the road and just sit there like
what what happened?
Speaker 1 (40:19):
How?
Speaker 2 (40:19):
How could somebody do this? But in your situation, you
have to keep going.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
Yeah, it wasn't easy.
Speaker 6 (40:30):
Fortunately a colleague of mind, Patrick Milligan and I, I
mean we're able to kind of we both have children,
his little older than mind, but we were able to,
you know, kind of help each other out when we
were struggling with these pictures and some of these facts.
And it's good to have, you know, other attorneys to
help you kind of through these things because we're human too,
and it's it's very difficult to see and even now
(40:53):
going over it again, I mean a lot of sleepless
nights trying to figure out what the hell she was thinking?
Speaker 5 (41:00):
What would was that somebody to do something?
Speaker 1 (41:02):
If I got to give it to you, I got
to give it to you. Derek Smith.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
While I completely disagree with you, and I certainly do
not want your job. You got in there and you fought,
you fought, and you got her the best deal she
could have gotten. That judge, I got to say, really
gave her hell at sentencing, and you stood right beside
(41:26):
her throughout see New Yorker.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
This is a very tough case for me as a mom.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
When I think about my twins at that age, they're
really premature, so they were really small. But when I
hear that ring cam from the neighbor of the baby
just screaming for something to eat or drink, or mommy
or somebody, and she died in that pack and play,
(41:54):
day after day after day, losing seven pounds in ten days.
Tell me in that courtroom, how did the judge respond?
Speaker 3 (42:04):
It was gut wrenching, And the judge even said in
his sentencing he said, the baby waited. Baby Jit then
waited for as long as she could. You know, ten
days you were going. But you know, after the medical
examiner and everybody laid out, she waited for as long
(42:28):
as she could. You know, she stood at a long
and agonizing death, but she waited for somebody to come
help her. And there was no help. Her mother was
nowhere to be.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Found, and I wish I could just take this baby
and raise her myself. But now this baby is in
heaven and mommy is behind bars.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Goodbye friend,
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