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February 16, 2024 48 mins

In a special episode, co-hosts Sydni and Sarah hop on the mic for one last time as a two-host show. Listen to hear the girls' discussion on the harms of aesthetics (and esthetics), the changing politics of awards seasons, and a trip down memory lane during the last four years and three seasons of Crying in Public. Listen to hear about big (and exciting!) changes coming to Season 4 of the Show: dropping February 22nd.

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
I want to share something really vulnerable. Are you ready vulnerable?
So I tan this morning.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
And I just finished, and I have on a row
and then I realized I really had to pee.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
So if you tan, you know the conundrum of peeing
when you're tanning. Usually I try to hold it for
as long as possible because think about it, it's like
you're sitting your tanned ass on a toilet seat which
is mostly probably going to be white porcelain, so it
stains pink. It's stayed like tanner stains white porcelain pink.

(00:50):
And if you have swamp bass, it's just like and
I sit on my desk at all day, like I
work from home, I'm not up and around, so I
most of the time have swamp bass when I'm home
and what I have to say, and it's fine like normally,
but when you pee, it's not fine, okay, And you
know the struggle if you get it, if you can.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
So I went to the bathroom. I couldn't hold it anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
I'm post to shower in like three hours, and I'm like,
there's no actual like rocket peace. So I ran to
the bathroom before recording this is just and I had
to kind of like lift up to pee, you know,
like I'm not gonna sit my ass down, I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Like lift it up a little bit slightly. And then
the pee didn't go to go.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
And it made a very big streak down my leg.
So now I have like Peace Street down my leg,
Like right.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Now, why don't you just squat?

Speaker 2 (01:37):
I did squat, and he still didn't like spurt it.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Do you do you not usually squat when you.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
No, I don't usually sweet squat when I pee in
my own home.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
What do you mean?

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Oh no, I mean, oh no, yeah, like I usually
do when I'm at bars or something.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Like describing this kind ofry, I was like, girl, just squat.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
No, I did, That's what I did, but like it
just but squatting in my own home very annoying. But yeah,
I squatted it, and it just it didn't like go
where I wanted it to go.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
It just went.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
And I's so sorry. This is a problem that I've
never faced it. I don't think I ever will.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
It's totally fine, but I just kind of wanted to
share your flight my life so hard.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
I walked into the living room and I was like,
it smells like self Tanner in here. Yeah, and it's
hilarious because both of my roommates and if you guys
don't haven't seen us, like us, there's the cover. I
am black and I are white, and I tan sometimes
like for events, just like make my skin tone more even,
and we all use the same shade of tan, which.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
My sands ultra dark.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Yeah, let's use the discussion for another time. But I
remember I was Chance asking to borrow mine and I
was like, yeah, but like just warning you, like it's
ultra dark. We all use ultra dark. I was like, hmm,
that can't be right.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
No, it's right.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
And so it's very noticeable too, like this isn't even
a gradual tan. It's like there's literally a full peace
streak down my leg and I have to figure out
how to fix it because I have a really really
fancy event tonight, like or how to get like a
gown and everything. So this is just going to be
so interesting. And the other people at this event are
like conservative in both ways of the word, like conservative

(03:08):
where they don't show skin and also conservative where they're
just like very button up.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
So I'm screwed. Like I was already nervous about my dress.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Showing a little skin, and now I have to be
worried that there's a literal peace.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Streak going down my leg. Just hopefully no one notices.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Well, two things, are your legs out in your dress?

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Ye're like a little bit like from the knee down?

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Can you use a key tip put tanner on it
and follow the streak?

Speaker 1 (03:31):
It just doesn't because it's already been on for like
four or five hours, So it just doesn't when you
put If you did, let let's say we let's put
this in a practice, you put the tanner on a
cue tip, but the rest of the tanner is already
said in so much that you're still going to see
where the tanner's streak is, and it's going to overlap
onto the other tanner, which is going to make it darker.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
So it's going to make it almost even more noticeable.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Because believe me, I've tried, like I've literally tried that
exact same thing.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
For another I don't know about.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Isn't that just so crazy?

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (04:02):
No, I'm just maybe I'll just scrub extra hard on
that leg and like scrub on my tenrol. This just
reminds me of the one time when I got a
spray tand forre Beachweek, and then my boyfriend promptly cheated
on me, so I cried and it was just all
down my next way to wash all off.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
It's like when I got it. I'm I know there's
like a resurgence of like black women getting skin, getting tans,
or like doing tans because it makes us look glowy,
like it's cute or whatever. But that was that's a
recent that's a twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four thing.
That's a that's a recent thing. So imagine my shock
when Ida competitive cheer like my whole life and we

(04:37):
were younger, we went to like our nationals or whatever.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Oh this is a great story.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
And they tapped our team to do like an instructional video.
I really don't know why because we really weren't that good,
and I think we're just like the most diverse team
thanks to me and my Asian friend.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
You're just carrying the team on your back.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Because they were like, y'all come here. So our coach
was like, y'all have to get spray tands, and mind you,
I'm from Florida, So like, if you had the good genes,
you were tan. If not like sorry, but she was like, okay,
guys are all getting sprayed hands, and I was like
ha ha, like sex for y'all, like have fun. And
then mind you, my coach is bluck and she was like,
oh you too, and I was like, M don't know

(05:16):
what that could possibly be, because why would I need
to get a spray tan I'm black? And so my
parents were like what So anyway, I went to one
of those like ghetto fabulous like in this girl's apartment
with the tent spray tnds because like all of my
friends got spray hands normally because I don't think a
star feel, and so they're all like picking out their
shades and like their tones, and I pull up and

(05:37):
I'm just like, girl, I don't know they're all gonna
I'm round. They're all the same on me, Like I
don't know what to do. So we all got our
hands whatever. I looked like just like extremely glowy, like
I had bathed in Jurgen's glowy lotion and it was
just like it was like Edward Clooney said, into the sun,
just like reflecting sun.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Oh sparkly.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
But the thing is, I guess because all my friends
knew she didn't think to like tell us about aftercare,
so in my head, like I got it on and
then like okay, I'm cool. So we went to go
eat after and I remember I got up out of
the booth and there was just like a smear of
brown across the entire booth and I was like, oh,
but yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
I never heard that part of the story.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Now that spray tans are like back, I would like
to say that I was on the pioneering end of that. Yeah,
and you're welcome.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Every time I go on TikTok, spray tans are either
intensely in or like aggressively out, you know what I mean.
Like everyone's like, don't put, don't do spray tan, it's
bad for you, and then everyone's like, no, do it.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
It's cute.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
You know. I'm on British TikTok because I find it
like extremely.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
So spray tans are in, yes.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
But it's not even necessarily spraystan. It's orange. And this
poor girl, she's so sweet. I love her making videos
because like she just has like a very sweet soul
event and.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Exactly what you're talking about. She was like, it's not orange,
and everyone was like.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
All the comments were like like okay, Twitters in this
phase where like everyone's still mean and bullying people, but
it's like under a tone of like trying to be nice.
So it's like, hey, girally, like this makeup is so cute,
let's work on not being orange. Like that'll be the comment.
And so she replied to one of them and she
was like, I keep seeing comments about people thinking that
I'm orange, but like you guests to realized that, like
it's color theory, like the darker I put my tan

(07:14):
on because my eyes are blue, it looks orange. And
the first comment was like, no, it's just orange. And
I feel bad because I'm like, there has to be
some sort of like a movement within the tanning community
to move away from being orange because it's really taking
over that in the handstreaks. And I know that's not
my business as a black person, but I pray it's

(07:34):
totally your business. I pray with the Tanning community, and
I pray for peace solidarity.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
I think, like what a lot of people don't understand
is that you have to sometimes if you have a
certain like I think people in the fair like Ivory
Foundation community.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Need to get tanner, that's like more cool toned.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
People love to get like the orange, yellow, green vein,
blue vein on her tone like tanner, and that's just
not what you need.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Like if you are ginger and you.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Have freckles and you have like skin the shade of
literally my dining room table, which is stark white, by
the way, you need to not get like Bondai Sands
or Loving Tan. I think those are just not the
right brands for you, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Like it's so and also, like on this conversation, it
is so important to remember that it's okay to not
be tan, Like I think that we as society have
taken it too far, Like it is okay for it
to be the dead of winter and you not be
crispy crispy chicken brown. Like I think that that's okay,

(08:39):
And I think we all need to as a community,
as a world, as a society, move on from that
because I fear it's too much. It's too much.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
I think, do whatever you feel comfortable with.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Like a lot of people consider like getting tan as
important as like doing their nails and their hair and
stuff like that. So it's like if it gives you
more confidence, go for it. But I think Sydney's point,
let's just all work as a society to like not
feel like you need to match these societal standards to beautiful, is.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
All I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, so I agree with that sentiment.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
I think, and I fully agree with that, but I
must add a cop yacht at a black person in
the room at it. I'm fully support your right to tan.
I think that that is a god given right, and
I think that you should exercise it to your fullest content.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
I really appreciate your.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
However, although nevertheless common in conclusion, you look another race,
we need to go back to the drawing board.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Like there's that's true.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Agree Like I remember on the Bondie Sands Instagram and
all those like old school like tanning companies, there would
be girls who are my shade. And I think that
that is the modern modern definition of blackface, like blackfishing.
Why do you look a different race? Like and it's
it's a there's a lot of like layers to where

(09:57):
that people don't understand. There's like, well I want to
be dark, okay, cool, cute, whatever, but there's like a
line and the line shouldn't be crossed.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
I think that's a necessary asterisk, Like that's not even
an opinion. That's like literally, I mean there's a huge
issue here if you like need to feel like you
have to be another ethnicity to like fit in or
be like gorgeous and whatever. I mean, it's it's really
it's not okay. And I think Sydney's right, like not
only to the extreme point, but to the necessary point.

(10:26):
It's like that is black fishing at that point or
just like other ethnicity fishing, and so it's no good.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
It's no good.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
And it goes both ways, like in a lot of communities,
whether that's like in Asia India, which is an Asia
in my mind, say that differently Africa, et cetera, Jamaica.
Like skin lightning is a huge thing also, and I'm like,
we need just like as a you need to love
our skin no matter what the shade is, please, because
why are we bleaching and scorching and electrifying and sitting

(10:53):
in frying beds to try and be another color? Like
just love your skin acid is please.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
As someone who tans, I approve that message for or
like as someone who literally like tans, someone who.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Also tans and is black. That's like I'm saying, you know,
like you gotta love it is. Take it.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Take it from us people who regularly not or maybe
not regularly, but people who are like used to tanning,
just take it all with a grain of salt.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Anywas I? I just spent twelve minutes on tanning. I
think it's really important.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
We talk about the heart issues, but we did kind
of end on like like important.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Channing like kind of tastes over your day too, because
like does I only do it for special events? But
I'm like, damn, I have to get up it fricking
seven am and just not. I can't sit down, I
can't lay down. I can't walk around, I can't put
clothes on, I can't leave my house. So I just
literally stand up upright. I can't touch anything for three hours.
That's ridiculous. They need to make like I guess they
do have tanning Lishen, so never mind.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
I like the Bondai Sands gradual tanning milk. It's like
lotion and you I don't know why they just don't
call it lotion. I don't know they had to be
like milk, but you put it on and it just
like gets it's easier to manage the color theory of
your body that way, because it's like it's good for
your face and like your shoulders and stuff like and
your hands, areas that can go too overboard with tan,

(12:09):
or like your knee caps or your elbows, like areas
on your body that can get very easily over tanned.
A gradual tanning lotion or serum or milk can really
like help with just color regulation.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
I think it's important.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Like if you feel like sometimes you go overboard, I
highly suggest get something like that.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
You can get it a like CBS or pharmacy, the.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Beauty community, the body community community, or I think have
the ask. Okay, I've learned so many things recently about
aesthetics esthetics. There's a difference aesthetics aesthetics esthetics estheticians. It
scares me because there's that whole conversation on TikTok right
now because of that one picture of Kylie Jenner, she
honestly pisses me off. Was one picture of her at

(12:52):
what a word show? Was it? Or was it a
fashion show? Was it a fashion show? And so when
you get filler, is something called migration that happens. We're
like you might put filler in your cheeks, but like
as six seven years go by, if you're getting them
dissolved and reput in, but not all of it dissolved
or like you're just leaving it there. Sometimes it migrates
to other parts of your face. And the thing is

(13:12):
is that I never really thought about this. I watched
this video on it. Our knowledge and research of filler's, botox,
et cetera is extremely limited. Like we're the first generation
that's going to see the long term effects of botox
and filler, and we're living as the living proof of
what's happening. So like at first they thought that like
lip filler or nose filler would only last like six
or seven months and you have to get it dissolved

(13:33):
and refilled. Now they're realizing it might last maybe three
or four years, or might be realizing that you don't
have to get dissolved to get it like redone. So
people are just kind of like throwing things in and
out their body and not really knowing the side effects
of it. Like they said now that like no swiller
can make you go blind potentially if it migrates to
your eyes, like and we don't know that because it's
like literally happening as we speak. And I'm not shaming

(13:54):
anyone that has filler, because trust me, I think about
Lilip Filler every day.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
We've done so many episodes on that. If you want
to really here are stands on you know, getting worked.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Onne, listening to your body.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yeah we done eventually, and yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah go listen to our other episodes.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
We completely like this is criticism coming from or just like,
these are thoughts coming from people who like fully support
this community.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Trust me, I want to be in the community real bad,
and I get money, I will be. So I think
that it's just scary, like not knowing the effects and
seeing them come out in real life, and so that
really freaks me out because I'm like, I'd rather go
to like an actual surgeon to get like lit the
learn done. But like, and trust me, I love the
Instagram girlies, but like some of them I know in
real life, and I'm like, gro, you did not go

(14:34):
to school for this. You went to school for marketing,
So I don't know how you're out here giving injections
to people's faces. So that scares me like a little bit.
And I really support estheticians, and I think that what
they do is awesome, but I feel like we need
to as a society create like a school yeah, where
we can't just study the law term effects, you can
get a degree and putting fuller in my face because
I'm really scared about what's going to happen if, like
you apply in craftics, it might look good. Is it

(14:55):
going to be good for my face in four years?

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yes, it's really good question.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Even like last I get them downe. I have them
in my face right now And actually, as I was
sitting on the table, I was like, where, how did
you know you're in my eye with a substance? I
don't know, and it kind of freaks me out a
little bit. I'm gonna keep getting them done, but I
do wonder I was gonna get in my eyes in
about two years, we'll see.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
It's so scary.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
And I also another buzz thing for me are the
prices when I go online, It's like lip fillers are
like thirty bucks. I'm like, like, I just don't think
they should be that inexpensive.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
No, I thought that littfiller might be like two hundred. Oh.
I was so humble. I do my little research because
I want to get Okay, it sounds really weird. There's
one side of my mouth that is shorter than the
other side, and it didn't drive me crazy until my
sister was like, this, one side of your face is
shorter than the other. You should get that AlSi.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Like, not true.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Like I love Taylor, She's amazing, it's just not like
I don't.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
I've never noticed that.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
My sister has this special ability that we will be
sitting at dinner and she'll be looking at me and
she was like, you need to get this done. Oh
my god. I'm like, oh so now I'm like obsess
is getting this one piece of my lip filled. But
I don't want the whole thing filled. I want this
in one corner filled with like ooop, like like one
little like spurt of filler. Apparently that's not sold. So
if I wanted to get like a full lip fliller

(16:13):
flippity flip done, that thing is like six dollars. I
was like, six hundred dollars, And then I think is
like I'm watching Love Island. Every single girl on this
show has a lip filler, cheek filler, chin filler, tapeins,
nail extensions, last extension. I'm like, girl, you're up keep
your low maintenance is like six thousand dollars, Like what

(16:33):
what are you guys doing? I guess it's influencers, but
they get it before they come in, So I'm like,
what was your job before this?

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (16:38):
I must I want that to be someone's thesis and
I would actually read it cover to cover because I
wonder that a lot. Actually, And I told everyone that
I want to get my lips done, and I keep
getting videos about people saying how weird people talk with
lip filler and they do talk differently, but like I'm
excited for that. Yeah you want to. I want to
have the little like you know in my straw, like struggling, yeah,

(16:58):
struggling to drink if you just have no feeling in
your vie, Like no, I want them so badly. So
if you have them like growling jealous, not making fun.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Of you, yeah yeah no, no, no no no.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
It's scared to me though, because like sometimes I'll see
I know you have to get them done gradually. If
you want like a dramatic change, I want the least
humatic change possible. I want the least humatic change possible.
That scares me. So when someone opens like a filler
academy that's registered with the real Department of Registered Schools,

(17:31):
and I'll get to one of your graduates because I'm
really scared of these Instagram phil or girlies. Though I
love your business acumen, love entrepreneurship, it's just like, moment,
I need.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
More certificates on your you know what I mean, that's
the only thing.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Like I want to walk in your office and be
upset and overwhelmed and jealous about how smart you are.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
You know, yes, I just don't want to fear my
lips exploding. Those are like the.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Two I don't want to blind. Surprisingly, that's a very
interest thing to say. Don't want to blind. I don't
want to lose feeling on my face.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
And I want to look fact, I want to be
able to use a straw, but like I can struggle
a little bit. Yeah yeah, in like a cute way
where they're like she's like maraw.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Like yeah, I want you to look at her.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
That's really all that's that's concerning me at the moment.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
That is so funny.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
That's been on my mind for a while this week. Actually,
so my.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Chest, I thank you. I'm happy we can be your
safe space. I want to talk about the Grammys, the Grammys.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
And just award shows in general. I want to get
I've been waiting to talk to you about this. I
want to get.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Your thoughts on a ward shows in general, Sydney, and
I want to get your Who else would I be
talking to? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Sorry, likely, No, it's any I want to get your
thoughts on award shows in general because I don't like them.
But I'll give my reasons in a second. And I
mean I like them because they're entertaining, but I don't
like them for a lot of reasons as well. And
I want to get your opinion on like who won.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
And stuff this year, because I know you definitely have opinions.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
Let's get cracking period of the Platypus. When he gets mad,
he goes.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Like, yeah, wait, that was pretty good. Do it again, the.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
Like in my head, that's what I silent when I'm mad.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
But did you know I can do a really good
doof in shorts impression sometimes?

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Well, here started talking to her ruin like weird voices,
and I'm like, okay, literally just talking to myself. You're
like cool. Son.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
He came in the living room.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
One day because she's so damn quiet. And I was
in the fridge being like, do I want feta cheese
cheese Swiss cheese, just like to myself, like.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
And I just got so.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
The thing is is like I grew up in an
ethnic household. People think I walk lightly on my feet.
I'm not a tiny girl like I I'm you. I
think cause I lived in a two story house and
I have ethnic parents. So if you're going off one
creek like lightly on my feet and yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
But anyways, back to the Grammys and the award shows
in general, what do you think about award shows?

Speaker 3 (19:53):
I think that they've declined in society. I remember that
like when I was a little kid, like waiting up
to watch the VMA's and like I'm thinking about like
Lady Gaga's meat dress performance, oh, like Kanye West interrupting,
like they were iconic moments. But I feel like now
there's just so many singers and you didn't know who's
gonna win, so it's it's lost, it's pizazz. Also, I

(20:16):
don't have cable TV, so I have to watch it
on the computer, which is like not the vibe. I
want a public slice of cake. In front of my
childhood television to watch it. But also like logic, we
don't have like the same quality or caliber of icons
that we had when we were younger, Like I think
now kind of that same idea with like influencers or
like everyone's a celebrity, where it's lost that Pazaz like

(20:40):
why are people that I know at the Grammys like
you're not a musician, you're not an artist, And I
mean it's great for them, excited that they get to
have those opportunities. At the same time, I remember that
like I forgot it was Rachel Zegler who talks about
this where she was literally nominated for Best Picture for
West Side Story at the Oscars, was the leading woman

(21:01):
in that motion picture and was not invited to the show. Meanwhile,
jib Jabiti Boo from New York Fashion Influencer got to go,
I'm like, there.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Are people who are like actually.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
In this craft, not for like followers or like to
put it on their TikTok, but like people who invest
their time, their talent.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Their energy, went to school for this and who were
like dead broke at one point.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yes, like dedicated their lives, like this is their craft,
This is their passion. Who can't go and celebrate their
own moments because we've made it into like some kind
of media entertainment spectacle. So that's kind of annoying, but
also like where's the drama, Like I'm bored of seeing
like yes, Maley Cyres had a mullet or whatever, and
like her dress was cute, Tina Turner whatever, like love
that for her, loved the one for her. I was
very excited for her, like watching her be so great, grateful, gracious,

(21:46):
got the same word, being so thankful for like where
she's at was beautiful to see. I want to meet dress.
I want Kanye West stuffing up there. Yes, JAYZ ranted,
but like too little, too late, so I missed like
the drama of the grandeur of things like the crazy
ormances and don't even get me started on that woman.
You know how I'm gonna say, she follows me so much,
and the gram we just like slidified my permanent dislike

(22:09):
for this woman. If I'll let you go first.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Thank you. Yeah, I feel free to talk about that
however much or less as you want, because I know
we've already like covered the specific artist so many times
in the podcast.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
But like, I always love to hear your thoughts on
just like who are considered like the most famous people
in America right now, and how it's like a little dumb.
But anyway, my thoughts on award shows are very similar
to Sydney's. I feel like they're great for the people
who get put on the pedestal, but so much and
so often I feel like we are putting the wrong

(22:40):
people on these pedestals. As someone who's a content creator
and considered an influencer by some because it's I just
don't consider myself one, I also hate that word, but
like as someone in that space, I am extremely critical.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Of the space. I just think back to like last
year's fashion.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Week, there was so much drama with like influencers because
and this is top of mind, I think, because fashion
Week is literally this week and right now, and so
I'm just thinking back to like last fall, when like
influencers and artists, designers, people who made the shows happen
and who like put put it on and did the
whole damn thing, they felt like their space was being

(23:19):
infiltrated by like these content creators who were just therefore,
I think s then to use the amazing most best
word here for this, like spectacle.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Everything has to be a spectacle.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
And I think sometimes people are trying so hard to
make things into what can be photogenic that they're really
missing what matters. And I think that comes with like
the wave of content creators and like the priority that's
put on them at awards shows and at fashion week
events and like stuff that just never used to include them.
Like influencers are like we're like media. It's like, if

(23:50):
you want to give us a press pass, go for it,
but just holding us to the same caliber or holding
like certain influencers to the same calibers like literal a
list celebrities I don't agree with, And I just think
like we're putting our priority all in the wrong people,
and the Grammys and the Oscars and the Tony's and
everything else.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Kind of reflects that.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
It's like why is Alex Earl getting shot more than
like people who are actually nominated. I don't know, just
stuff like that. I know she literally like wasn't in
the actual camera work when they like showed it live.
But you know what I'm saying, it's like on social media,
her like walking in in the rain was more was
the most popular clip from the whole damn Show. I'm like,
what's going on? Why do we care that she got

(24:29):
rained on? It was raining, All the celebrities got rained on.
I don't know, it's just and like I'm.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Happy for her.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
I actually really do like Alex Earl. I think she's
like pretty funny.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
I just think, like I don't have to over explain,
but I think it's just gone down in terms of
like what actually matters. We've just been losing the authenticity
and like I think, who was the comedian who hosted
that award show that I also can't remember?

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Who?

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Just like did a bang up job?

Speaker 3 (24:53):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Oscars?

Speaker 3 (24:54):
Right? Jo? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (24:56):
But it was the Oscars, right, yeah? Whatever, no one
we need to do it's what's your quote?

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Okay? I love knowing everything, but.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
It was It's just like stuff like that, like why
didn't we get someone more iconic to host the show
instead of this like random comedian that nobody knows.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
That's just my opinion. And he was also extremely offensive
to like multiple people. But anyway, you know, those are
my faults.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Now for my biggest thought, it's gonna make some of
you mad.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
This is the biggest thought.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
Bubble does it make some of you mad, But it's
time we have the conversation.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
It's actually gonna make some of you so upset.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
Me thinks it's time. So y'all's favorite girly terror Swift,
I this woman really bothers me. And I'm gonna crebace
this by saying, there's this like idea that everyone is like,
if you don't like Terry Swift, you're a misogynist. No,
I just don't like her, and I'm gonna start by

(25:46):
saying this, Yes, she can write songs that many people like.
There are songs that I like. I will bump love
Story any day, anytime. I'll bump Dayless, give me Fearless,
bott it So like, I'm not saying that I dislike
her music. I just think that one she is a

(26:07):
capitol machine, like she releases like fifteen albums a year,
and like ask someone who like literally study the right
studies copyright law and like media law. I think that
once she's very smart lawyers. But too, I think that
she's found her a way to make herself a victim
in any situation by manipulating the story, which I find
to be dishonest. So that all aside I think she

(26:29):
does make some great music, though I'm not a fan
of the more recent music or anything of that sort.
The Grammys is supposed to highlight and honor like big
changes in music, like influential music, influential albums, albums that
are on the cutting edge of like new styles and

(26:49):
things like that. When it comes to Album of the Year,
that's like a record of the year, album of the year, whatever,
two biggest awards. The last time a black woman won
that award was twenty five years ago. It was Lauren
Hill in nineteen ninety nine. That's a whole other conversation
which you're telling me that not a one black person
has made a good album in twenty five years, a
black woman. No Beyonce, no Sissa, no Rihanna. Like I

(27:14):
can name fifteen people that I think should have gotten
that award anyway.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Also, if I can interject, for like literallyero point three seconds,
it's just so funny because by the Grammy's own credibility,
they've given Beyonce so many fucking awards.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
He's the most awarded person in history. I know it
has never gotten and.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Yet has never gotten album. Thank you. That's literally all.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
I's gonna say and I'm talking anti I should have
won self title, should have won self title changed the
way that we like. The reason why artists drop music
on Friday Nights is because of self Titled by Beyonce.
Just gotta say that. So as okay, I will say,
I will practisis by saying I am a siss A fan.
So I'm a little bit biased. But from the most
objective position ever, SOS was like a revolutionary album in

(27:55):
terms of like defining genres, defining like traditional notions of lyricism,
like as a technical production standpoint, incredible, from a genre standpoint, incredible,
Like even fellow artists have said that, I guess one
of the best album they've heard in a very long time.
It's been on the Billboard charts for over a year,
Like it's just a good album Midnights. Out of all
the albums she's ever made, it's my least favorite. I

(28:16):
think that the Grammy Awards are trying to capitalize on her,
like being the it girl of the moment with like
Travis Kelsey whole other conversation that bothers me so much,
and her heirs tour like whatever. So the fact that
one renaissance, one last year, but also to that Midnight's
one over Sizza. I think it wasn't necessarily an award
that was based on the album itself, but about her

(28:39):
popularity in knowing that people are going to tune in
and be drawn in to watch her win the award.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Oh look at what she did.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
She like dropped her album and everyone was like, everyone
was like, this an award show, why are you dropping
an album?

Speaker 3 (28:48):
When she dropped her album too, she dragged people on
the stage that didn't win in the same category who
didn't want to go on, like lonadl right basically was like,
I do not want to go dragted out there anyway.
Three as the most revered Black woman, Celene Dion. She's
not black, but black people love her such Princess Diana
of Now Black people love Selene Deon. So how come

(29:10):
she no one has been suffering from like a debilitating
disease for years. This is her first public appearance in
multiple years to come give out this award. Terra so
doesn't even look at her. She snatches the award out
of her hand and then goes to the mic, and
I remember it like pans to the audience. People's faces
were like that you just snatched that didn't even look
the woman in the eye, didn't say thank you, like whatever,

(29:31):
Like when I tell you, I saw like six minute
videos on TikTok on Twitter from white, black, straight, gay,
old young being like, there's no way just disrespected Selene
Dion on that stage when she's making her first public
appearance to come give you an award, Like that's crazy.
Number one two, Like, I think the perfect counter opposite
to that is Miley Cyrus When she got her award

(29:53):
from Mariah Carey. She talked about Mariah Carey her entire speech.
She was like, this is insane, Like it's my first Grammy.
But like I was happy yesterday, I'm gonna be happy tomorrow.
Like this is just like a way to kind of
like monumentalize my success. But like Maria cam Muri cam
Muri Carrey, like that was a way to like senser yourself. Yes,
also like have reverence people who are like taking him
out their day to come like celebrate you whatever. So

(30:15):
that annoyed me, So I should have when she got
stolen from whatever. I think I like Taylor Swift and
she makes it worse. I just think she's whole other
holder topic, but not my favorite person.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
No, I do want to talk more about Lana del Rey.
I'm not a Lana Delray fan, by the way. I
only know like literally point zero one two of her
songs and they're great.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
But I'm sure she's awesome.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
But to me, the look on her face on go
I felt like it was nasty. I don't obviously, like
I'm not sitting here being like Taylor like wanted to
embarrass her.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
But I'm just gonna tell you how it came across.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
It came across like Taylor was not thinking and she
was like on such an ignorant like high that she
really put other people in very uncomfortable situations. Celine Dion included,
but mostly Lona del Wright. The fact that she brought
up someone who is not going to be in the
best mood ever because she didn't fucking win. The fact

(31:13):
that she dragged her butt, dragged her little booty up
on that stage and made her watch on stage in
front of everybody as Taylor won the award. To me,
it just appeared to be extremely weaponized and humiliating. And
that's what I have to say. I was watching Lonna
del Rey, I know nothing about Lonna deel Wright, but

(31:35):
I was like, I just feel so bad for you
right now. I would actually text Taylor if Taylor was
my friend. I text her after that and be like, hey,
I love loves, hearts and kisses. I really didn't appreciate that.
It seems like you were trying to use me as
a prop to get your award, like to almost make
you look like a better person for bringing me up
on stage.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
In reality, it was after I just lost the award thing.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Also, what annoys me is that like, whenever something like
this happens, her fans are like, give her some grace,
like she was that woman is almost forty. That woman
is almost forty years old, so giving her excuses. And
I think that, like I just think that not holding
her accountable is what allows her to keep doing this.
Because like with the Kanye West thing, when he said
like I would still have to hero except or whatever
in that song, and she was like, I'd never knew

(32:23):
he'd use my name, Like this is awful, And then
he played the song for her and Kim Kardashian recorded it,
and then she said on the phone call, Yeah, you
can use that. That's funny. So the fact that it
came out that she lied about not being okay with
it to be the victim, and it turned around to
be like, well, Kim Kardashian illegally recorded me. It just
stuff like that that, like like just being so naturally

(32:43):
dishonest really bothers me. And that's why these words. I
don't like her. Also, like she's very selective about her activism,
like when it benefits her, she's happy to say something,
but like it was about like cats or something, but
it's about like the world, She's like nah, whatever, and
the whole Like this woman took a thirteen minute flight
couple of days ago, I would have been like a
four hour drive, and there's like a Twitter account that

(33:05):
tracks how much carbon emission she's using by her plane.
Now she's suing the kid that made the like the
college kid that made the tracker. I'm like, please, just
like take accountability for like your actions and stop like
blaming other people. That's what bothers me. Okay, I'm rant,
it's done. I'm done talking about her. Congrats to her
or whatever.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
SIDEI I think I was gonna say more, but I
actually think it's a perfect place to him because that
was just so funny. Yeah, what else is going on
in the world right now? I feel like so much
I don't even know where to begin. Maybe maybe instead
of that, we can how are you, Sidney give let's

(33:42):
give a little life update because we haven't posted in
a while. Oh I have something funny to say. I
posted a TikTok like two weeks ago, and somebody commented like,
oh my god, where's the podcast, Like you guys haven't
posted in so long? And I was like, I know,
definitely listen to the next one, Like sorry, God, we
just was so bad. I mean literally like I feel
like I can never nail you down, and then I

(34:04):
feel like you can never nail me.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
We can both.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
It goes both ways, and it's so funny because it's
like Sydney and I love recording so much, and it's
a great way for us to bond and connect because
we don't even get to see each other that often
anymore because of law school and all this stuff, and
because I'm working so hard, and.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
It's really really great. But it's just so.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
Funny because literally we haven't recorded a like months, and
because we live together, testament to how.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Busy we are we live together and we can't even
find time to record, but we did today, which is exciting.
But anyway, yeah, I want to do a little like
life update since we haven't recorded in so long, and
maybe just tell the people how we're doing.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Do you want to go first?

Speaker 3 (34:40):
You want me to? Sure school? It sucks? So yeah,
I'm in law school, still taking classes, doing research and
writing my thesis slash note now that is It's a
lot of work. I'm working at Warner Brothers right now
as an intern legal person or as an entertainment legal person.
Cute and fun. Relationship wise, y'all know the deal. It's whatever.

(35:07):
I love to rinse, washing, repeat, just a problem. I'm
cann't get over that eventually. Another episode health wise, I've
been going through it the last few months. Also another episode.
So yeah, I just like a lot the last few
months to try and balance everything. But my goal this
year is to make time for the things that I
want to do. I su'll explain a lot of things later,

(35:29):
but yeah, I'm excited. I'm like getting my life together,
getting organized, getting like better with my time management, saying
no to things, sticking to the beauty of.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Saying no, beauty of so exciting I've been saying no
so much recently, and it's it's really it's been great.
I do want to tell a funny story though, this
one time I didn't say no, and I probably should have,
but this is just a great anecdote. So my really
amazing friend Camden, who's just gorgeous in every aspect of
the word, is so funny because I don't fault him

(36:01):
for this, which is a hilarious story. And if he's listening,
he's gonna like die laughing. And Sydney, I don't think
I've ever told you this. So Camden is also speaking
of being busy, he's just like so busy.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
He's doing his he's in.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Medical sales, so he's on call like all the time
because a very big part of medical sales is you're
not only selling the product and explaining to the doctors
what it does and why you should have it available
in your facility, but he also installs it in patience
like it's like a very two important.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Hats type of thing.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
So it technically it's a sales job, but really he's
like in people's bodies.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
It's very odd, but I'm really proud of him.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
It's like his first big boy job and it's really exciting,
but it does take up ninety nine point eighty two
percent of his time, so I don't get to see
him very much lately either. And it's so funny because yes,
I have thirty minutes I can swing by, because he
has a car in the city which he needs for
his job. I can swing by pick you up, and
we can drive around for thirty minutes and then I
need to drop you back on home. And I was like,

(36:58):
that's the sweetest thing, Like I just think the fact
that like people can be so busy and still find
the time to like connect and bond, Like I just
love that.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
But he picks me up.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
While we're in the car, he gets a call, he
gets he's on call, he gets a call he has
to go to the hospital.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
In like bumblefuck Brooklyn.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
So he drives me from the Upper West Side to
Brooklyn to this hospital and he says, I'll be in
and out in fifteen minutes.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Just wait in the car.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Doesn't crack a window for me or nothing, turns on
the car, I mean, turns off the car and like
fucks off into the hospital. To me, I am sitting
in this car for an hour and a half, yes.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Playing TikTok and wait, sorry what watching tiktoks and.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Playing Slither dot io on my phone for an hour
and a half.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
I facedtime my mom.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
I was like, Mom, what if I don't have any oxygen.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
Because I can't get out of the car. Oh it sacks.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
And then he comes back finally and it gave us
a really good laugh. But he literally like dogs, at
least get the window cracked. He left me in the
car like you can call child' serviss on his butt.
He let me in the car for an hour and
a half and then felt so bad he got me dinner.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
But I thought that was so funny and just a
really funny little anecdote. I was like, Hamden, next time,
let's just hang out when you're not on call.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Okay. Yeah, And it kills me because he's working for
a guy I used to be involved with in.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
So yeah, that's the funniest part of this whole thing.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
The funniest thing is I was seeing this guy for
a while, like two years ago, and I remember like
randomly damming him and being like, my friend is interested
in your line of work, you guy should connect And
I remember thinking like They're so similar that I would
be scared to put them in the same room together.
But they love each other. And I'm still in this
guy's close friends and he'll just like post pictures of

(38:43):
him and it still throws me off a little bit.
They know each other and they know me so well
in so such different ways. So that's weird to think about.
But it's also funny to me because like, what are
the odds?

Speaker 1 (38:52):
It's so silly, so silly, Like what a weird?

Speaker 2 (38:57):
What is silly? Wally Goose? Oh God, So back to me.
My life update recently is so good.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
My boyfriend and I, who we started dating a year
and a quarter ago. It seems like it was just yesterday,
which is so crazy. Time is flying by. This winter
is also flying by. The cold is not giving me
as bad of seasonal depression as usual, which is exciting.
Sady and I did a bunch of episodes on seasonal

(39:28):
depression two and we both get them.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
We both get it pretty badly. So it's been.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
A short winter, I feel like so far. Also, I
feel like it's been a warm winter, so it really hasn't.
It's been like a sunny winter.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
It's been like sunny for the first part of it
that it got super super cold. And now I'm like,
oh crap, it's been four months and two weeks. But
January was three years long.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Yes, January was super long. I'm really happy. We're like
almost halfway through February. February is flying also because it's
the shortest month. Valentine's ye is coming up. Speaking of Zach,
so he is and listen to the podcast because I
order him not to. So I can tell you what
I got for him as a gift. We're going out
to a really nice dinner. He's surprising me with the dinner.

(40:09):
We like to do like these chef tasting, very fancy stuff.
So he's gonna like pay for the dinner and get
all that, and I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Get the gift.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
And I got us a mutually beneficial gift because the
dinner is mutually beneficial.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
So I was like, oh, no, no, no, it's just
it's a spat trip.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
I got us a couple's massage and a full day
pass at QC SPA. That's why I wanted to tell you,
Because Sinny and I had like a cute little roommate
moment and.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
We went to a QC SPA.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
It was really sweet because we got invited through the
podcast and they just invited us to come and eat
at the beast Strone check it out, and they had
like fire performances.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
It was very intense.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
Just somehow missed because I was in the bathroom.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Yeah, miss both of that. They did it like twice.
I do know how it.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
Yeah, So that was really fun. So that's I'm surprising
him with that. That's happening like next Saturday, and I
just hope he's and make plans for Saturday because I
told him.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
It was a physical gift because.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
He likes to try and he's so annoying he cannot
be surprised. He likes to try and like figure out
what I got him. But anyway, so Valentine's Day's coming up,
really exciting. All is well on the relationship front. Definitely
learning more how to be like part of a healthy
relationship and not be so intensely independent In all times,
I think I'm doing a really good job. Family's great,
my mom's came in a visit and to go see

(41:23):
muna huge.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
And work is so good.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
So I moved my like techie social media job to
part time.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
If you guys are like regular listeners. You know what
I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
And then I got a full time job on top
of that, so I'm a very busy bee. My full
time job, I do social media like Instagram, tiktoks, and
photo shoots for a restaurant hospitality group in Midtown. It's
pmac's Hospitality Group. If you ever want to check out
any of the restaurants, come visit me say hi. I'm
hardly ever there, but if i'm if I'm there, come.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
And say I.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
And because of that, unfortunately, I do have some very
sad news.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
This will be my last crying in public episode. I
am very upset about it. As you can tell.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
This is absolutely nothing to do with Sydney and ized relationship,
and I didn't want to say that because I feel
like whenever I listen to podcasts and someone's announcing their retirement,
I always feel like, okay, are you lying?

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Like there must be something going on.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
Well, we live together.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Sydney and I are roommates and we've been like the
best of friends for over six years.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
It's crazy and we are totally fine.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
Unfortunately, I do have to end my reign here because
I never want.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
To do anything less than one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
And I felt like, because of my jobs and how
that conflicted with Sydney's work in school, we can never
nail each other down for dates. I feel like if
I can't do my one hundred percent, I don't want
to do it.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
I feel like that's not fair to not only Sydney,
but myself. And I am really upset that this is
the last episode I'm doing. But crying in public is
not over.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
It lives on not only in our hearts, but literally
in real life. Because Sidney's not stopping the podcast herself.
She is going to be continuing the podcast. New episodes
are coming at the end of the month or the
beginning of next month, and she will be having on
guests and she will be doing it solo, and it
will be so fantastic. And I can't wait to support
you and the rest of your journey and live vicariously
through you in your next season.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
I'm really excited for butches are stuck with me.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Can't get rid of me, can't get rid of me?

Speaker 3 (43:24):
It worked, No, I'm still glad to settle that. I
was like, I don't know how to like you know,
I'm so awkward. I'm like, so, guess what. But it's
so funny because like everyone is like dming and they're like,
what's happening, and I'm like, because we'll get to it eventually.
But yeah, and I'm excited. And it's so funny because

(43:45):
I at least hold Sarah. Like a year ago, I
was like, my biggest fear is doing an episode by myself.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
I think you said that on the podcast, because it's
like I need someone to rain me in, not I'm
going to like talk for an hour.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
So but I'm excited.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
I feel like you rained me and that's so funny. No, god, yeah, I'm.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
Bounced each other out the weirdness and the quirkiness. But
I'm excited. The new season's coming out February twenty second,
the trailer dropping next week. A person like really county
artwork that I made.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
On CANBA we Love we Are, and.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
Then the law school patient Canda accounts. I can't wait
to have that revoked. But no, I'm really excited. Prepare
yourself for some really cool guests and topics and such.
But yeah, you're stuck with me and the me and
the mic, and yeah, I'm excited. This is obviously like
a sad era to end, because this has been like
our thing for what four years now. Yeah, so it's

(44:38):
definitely a new era. I'm gonna be miss this one,
but no, I'm excited. So see how things go. And
know there is no beef. We literally live together, We're
still best friends. We've been best friends for six years.
We lived two yards away from each others two feet,
So yeah, I'm just excited. Obviously we're still good. So yeah,
we'll see how things go.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Yeah, I'm just so it is a very bittersweet moment.
I'm really fucking sad, but I'm also really fucking excited
for you, and I think that overtakes the sadness. Like
I feel like I haven't even had a moment to reflect,
just because I'm so excited that you're gonna continue and
I just can't wait to like listen to all the episodes.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
Well thank you. It is also really funny to me though,
because like whenever a podcast is like a big breakup
means Sarah like what's the fun? Yeah, Drawa, that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
But sorry to disappoint, should we have like created some
fake drama.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
I feel like we should know and be like Sarah,
fucking uh, take me to a Broadway show, nor about
it or something.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Sydney slept with my boy like I doesn't want to
create it just like bullshit.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
No, Unfortune is like the most peaceful breakup ever. But
it's not even a breakup. It's just like I would.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
I like to call it a retirement.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
Yeah, like unfortunate. It's just my time to retire. It's
just it's not yours. And that's so exciting.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
But there is no tea to be sipped unfortunately.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
So when I see people comment, I'm gonna say, you
did not listen to a minute forty six second thirty
three you.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Would it's minute forty eight fifty two seconds.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
Again, it's so hard knowing everything.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
You can't skip around, you guys. You have to listen
to the whole episode or don't.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
Listen it all. I see any freaking comments that are like,
wats the drama, I'm gonna say, you guys are not
watching in this episode, and I'm deeply hurt by it.
Thank you. So I'm gonna make the title of this
episode the most dramatic thing ever, just so people will
listen till the end.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Yeah, and if you're ever curious. Look on I will
be reposting all the Sydney shit. So look at my
Instagram account. There's a really no BA But.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
I love you.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
I love you too. Me and Sarah literally I see
her every day a guy for the last five years,
and like, we don't hug. We don't say anything sentimental,
like I'll come to fitten. You're like, hey, I'm like.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
No, we do hug.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
We hug in public, and exactly, we cry in public,
and we hug in public because I feel like I
have to because I don't usually. But whenever I see you,
like whenever we meet up somewhere, I hug you. And
it's so awkward. Yeah, I was like, it's literally the
most awkward thing.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
It's also so.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
Funny, doesn't He recorded the last episode actually like a
month ago. Yeah. We had like a very dramatic like
champagne porn.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
Yeah, oh this is our second time recording.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
Crash, and then Sarah's computer crash. We lost the episode. Yes,
So when you see that picture of us clinking glasses
on the story, you're gonna know, you're gonna know that
it was a month ago now, And yeah, that's what's
really important.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Support it's it's the it's the thought behind it that counts.
And now it's we're recording this at one pm on
a Friday, so we really can't drink champagne because that
would be a little concerned, actually a poppy health and
I'm drinking a pull.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
All right, you guys for the very last time. I
love you so much. You can find us.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
You can find us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify Crying
in Public Podcasts, and you can also follow us on
Instagram at Crying in Public Podcast. Get excited for season
three or season four? Get excited for Season motherfucking four
of Crying in Public and season three and all the
other seasons of Crying in Public have been some of

(47:59):
the best years of my whole because of Sydney and
ized dedication to the craft, and just like, recording has
been so fun, a great way to get a therapist
without actually hiring one, and it's yeah, some of the
best moments of my life have been recording. So I
just want to thank you guys so much for listening
and supporting me and Sydney throughout everything.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
And I love you. Yeah, by.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
Didn't cry, I like got so over here she said
this hand I saw it I can't.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
No more peace streets, please,
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