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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast
A and Paranormal Podcast Network. Now get ready for another
episode of Dark Becomes Light with Heidi Halls. Welcome to
our podcast. Please be aware of the thoughts and opinions
expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions only
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you to do your own research and discover the subject
matter for yourself. You are listening to Dark Becomes Light
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with Me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio and
Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome to my show.
Remember each week this is the place you go to
for anything that you're experiencing personally that's out of the ordinary,
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from angels to alien shadow people to hat man. Go
to my website shadow Folks dot com or Heidi Hollis
dot com and tell us about it right as much
detail as you would like about what you're experience and
what you're curious about, what you're researching, and I will
read it here on the show And always know, if
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you have something you want to say on this program,
you can pop on here and share your story and
do just that. This is for you, this is for me,
This is for everybody. I want it to be a conversation.
And uh, I think it's about time that week get
to that point, don't you. Today is going to be
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one of my favorite types of shows where I am
only taking your emails, your stories, and uh wow, I
always enjoy this part because it really helps me connect
with what it is people are experiencing. I mean, how
else am I going to get to the bottom of
any of this unless you keep in touch with me
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and I do my best to put it out there.
All right. So this first email, this says, Dear Heidi,
thank you so much for sharing your information on a
recent radio interview. It is nice to know I'm not
alone and not crazy. I've not had a lot of
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experiences that you and the host had, but I've had
enough weirdness that I've questioned thing since I was a child.
That's sad, isn't it that we question ourselves because people
say it's so odd to speak of these topics they continue.
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One thing that has resonated with me was the feeling
of being here at this time for a purpose. I've
had the crazy idea that we are all pieces in
a giant chess match that we can't comprehend, and that
I volunteered or agreed to be here. I've spent a
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good portion of my life preparing for a battle of
some sort, years in the martial arts and tactical training.
I've had two dreams that were just not normal dreams.
The first one came true and always stuck with me
the feel of it. You guys ever have those types
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of so called dreams that seem so real and it's
like hard to believe it didn't happen. I personally call
those uh, waking dreams where you feel like you're awake.
So um, yeah, that's that's that's amazing. Okay, so it happened.
The second one has not yet come true, but may
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actually be coming true in a form I didn't expect.
I've had times when I clearly have heard internally to
do something or not to do something. I don't ignore it.
Bad things happen when I do. I've seen shadow people
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and even had sleep paralysis. The last time was a
year or so ago and was the first time in
a long time that had happened. My dog that had
died recently showed up while I was praying and telling
it to leave, and it left unsure why Dakota showed up.
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I don't see many relatives and dreams, or at least
I don't remember them. I've always questioned the narrative and
felt that the truth would be a mix of everything
combined in some way. I've asked God for confirmation on
certain things and actually have had answers in different ways.
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There was this group that was researching the Hebrew language
called the Chronicle Project. To make a long story short,
they found Hebrew was actually a self defining language and
each symbol was a word. That's interesting. I never heard
of that. Their translation of the Creation story from the
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oldest version of it in Hebrew actually lines up a
great deal with most of this. They could also see
where things had been added in due to the way
it would translate out. I'm not sure what my part
to play in this would be. I do know where
I am supposed to be at this time. I would
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like to know if there's anything else I should be
doing other than what I am. I work as an
inhospital nurse practitioner. For what it's worth. I would have
never pegged myself in the past as an impath, but
I am. I've fought with it my entire life, and
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it was terrible in my teens and twenties. It has
taken a long time to understand myself better, hard to
see something I always thought of as a weakness is
actually a strength. Thank you for listening, Sandy. Wow, Sandy,
thank you so much for taking the time to write
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so much detail and seriously heartfelt um for the listeners
that are trying to grasp it is that Sandy is
referring to. I did do an interview more recently, and
I was talking about how over the years I've had
a great deal of people reach out to me after
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they've read my book, The Secret War, and they've told
me how they were surprised to find they could relate
to a lot of things that I wrote in there.
And what it was that I think is really triggering
some folks, is uh, this inner knowing, like like we're
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here at this time for something really specific, Like we
feel like warriors ready to take something on, Like we
don't know exactly what it is, but we know kind
of what it is, and we know it's a big
freaking deal, but we're not exactly sure what the deal is.
Always it's a it's a strange thing. It's a strange balance.
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It's like you're on the ready and you know it's
something against evil and you're working on the good side
of stuff, and and and it pulls at you, it
gets you. Like this, Sandy here said, you know, done
martial arts. I feel like I'm prepared and I'm ready
for battle. And these people find that they're digging into
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these certain topics and they're they're making themselves aware they're
physically fit, or they meditate in order to project and
feel if something is coming this away and uh, and
also to know that where they're situated at like somehow
that's connected to whatever this drive is to beyond the ready.
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Like and when these people would reach out to me,
they're like, what is this? You know, I felt it
when I read your book that this is this is right,
this is this is it? This is like part of
this And and I like to ask him where where
are you at? And they're like, Peru, Colombia, you know,
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all these different countries and and I'm like, great, it's
like it's it's nice to recognize and know where you're
at as you feel prepared and ready for this battle
as well. And and it's kind of like a nod
of recognition because we resonate and we are finding each other,
and it's it's such a it's kind of a thing
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without words, but just oh, it's a big something. It's
a big something. And I know for people who are
not exactly in the know about what I'm what I'm
speaking of here, it sounds kind of baffling, but oh,
when you sit on the receiving end of some of
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the emails and the messages that I get, it wouldn't
be baffling, not one bit. You'd be like just smiling
from the inside out. It's a it's a really really
really comforting thought knowing, like you know, everybody always asks,
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you know, what's my purpose? What am I doing here?
But we have this thing that says, I kind of
know what my purposes. I kind of get it. I'm
here at this time for a reason. I know I
know this, but you can't really express it. It's like
and then here I was. I was in college when
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I wrote that book, The Secret War, the first one
that discusses shadow people, and I spoke of this battle
that's coming, that's between good and evil in the form
of shadow people, hat Man and these other beings that
kind of work with them as well, whether willingly or unwillingly.
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And now I sit here and I'm I'm receiving these
multitude of emails from around the globe of people experience
exactly what I wrote that book about, that these beings
are approaching and digging into our souls and making room
for their horrible things. And as much as it seems
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like a fantasy, time and time again, at least once
a week I get somebody who writes me and says,
I thought it was the only one. I thought I
was alone in this, only to find this is a
bigger phenomena. And sometimes it's reassuring to know that I
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pulled another person into this understanding. But sometimes it's just
gives me the sinking feeling that it's growing so much
that there goes another one. You know, it's really really
complicating and difficult topic for me to always pull it
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all in and let it sing again about how big
this is and how much worse it is now with
Sandy has written here also dives a little bit deeper
into some other areas that I want to I want
to give some decent time too, So I don't want
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to cram it all in here before we go to
our break, because there's some patterns. There's some patterns here
that I'm I'm curious if all of you who are
more used to listening to me now speaking all the subjects,
if you picked up on them and why some of
the things may have happened in Sandy's life, and so
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we're going to dive on in. So guys, stick around.
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Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on the I
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Today's show is all about you and your messages, your stories,
and I appreciate you more than you know because you
help me and you help others get real world, real
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life situations that translate that relates to other people. And
this is how we that's how we defeat the dark.
This is how we do this because we can because
dark becomes light, right all right? So, just before the break,
I had Sandy who wrote a very interesting email. It
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was in regards to an interview that I gave recently.
I'm talking about this recognition that a lot of us
around the world are are having about this unique time
that we're in, Like there's something inner that's tell telling
us I'm on the ready. I'm supposed to be here,
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and I feel like a warrior of a sort. And
it's so odd. It's so odd to say to some people,
but not to others who feel this. And and I
kind of mentioned his son this interview I gave recently,
and uh, and I got this beautiful message here from
Sandy saying, I know that feeling. And over the years,
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I mean, I have easily had about a hundred people
reach out to me saying the same thing, and from
all walks of life, I mean, from everywhere, all over
the world and using Google Translate, like I know, I know,
I know what you're saying, you know, like, yes, it's
awesome to recognize you too. And I honestly was going
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to like start a group or something because it was
so many people that would randomly pop up. You know,
it's probably been over a hundred, but it it's such
a unique feel and I don't know, energy and a nod.
It's a nod of I recognize you, I see you.
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And uh, you know, it's not about ego, it's not
about anything. It's just this thing, right. So Sandy writes
about that, and she also is writing about how she
has this inner voice that a lot of us have,
but sometimes it seems really audible. That's like do this,
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don't do that, like a like a direction to make
sure that you're on the ready. Like this is how
I'm reading it, this is how I'm feeling. And so
this is a pattern that Okay, some of you that
I haven't really spoke about this type of thing on
this program, but this is this is this thing, this
is that something, and I just I don't have the
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best words for it. But this is another pattern of
people who are up against this dark force that's here
that I've written about so many times in my books
that it's it's like spiritual warfare. It really is. Um
we say aliens, we say shadow people always say hat man,
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you know, but it's all in the same arena. Uh So, yeah,
you know when people feel like, gosh, this evil is
getting out of control, it might win. Oh heck, no,
it's not. It's not going to win. And I think
there's a lot of sleepers who are waking up. But
it's not like we're actually sleeping though, either, because we
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kind of are in this no that we just can't
put into words. Um that I feel is just really
so magical. But how can you say God is everywhere,
and he's in all of us, and some of us
are looking at I'm going, yeah, I think I'm here
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working for you, aren't I? But we all are if
we choose to write. It's a weird thing. I don't
know how to express it best, but um, there is
that pattern right there that here is somebody who also
speaking of shadow people and sleep paralysis. So people who
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have this light in them, it attracts darkness, that really does.
It's like flies to outdoor porch light. I mean, so
these things just come. So I'm I'm not surprised, but interesting.
Sandy goes into this thing where the sleep paralysis happened,
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and their dog had recently died showed up while they
were praying and telling this shadow being to go away, right,
And they're like, gosh, just not sure why Dakota would
show up. That's the name of their dog. And It's like, well,
it's obvious to me because our protectors come in all
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shapes and forms, and obviously Dakota was there to help
you out. And I think that's absolutely brilliant and beautiful,
and that is another pattern and keeping these things at
bay but also attracting them because of what it is
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that you feel your purpose is to be doing, or
that you're insightful, or you have experienced other things. This
is all attractive to these dark beings. I mean, they
want to limit us, They want to totally stump out
our our light. And when somebody has that that, I
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don't know where they resonate this something that they feel
is all for the positive, all for the good. Oh
you better believe, you better believe this stuff will just
come flying at him. So not a surprise. And and
Sandy's in the helping field. She's a nurse, I'm an
occupational therapist, so helping people is just so much a
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part of who she is, which I think is just
another tell of these hidden warriors. So the balance is here, guys,
it really is. We are not going to sit idly
by and let this darkness hand any kind of sentence
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that isn't going to be met with a nice battle.
Let's just put it that way. So thank you so
much Sandy for taking the time to write in. And
we've got another. This is a bigger email, which I
appreciate and I think you guys do too, because it
really helps to paint the picture. As I always say,
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all right, so this one says, uh, dear Heidi, I'm
listening to your new podcasts. That's this one, and you
are amazing. Well, thank you. It's very kind of you.
I used to listen to you when George Norri had
you as a guest on Coast to Coast. I am
fascinated that you coined the term hat man, as it
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is really the best description. You are also awesome on
sub breddit too. I personally recently discovered that I just
don't go looking for these little outlets that people are
venting on and I found that so um, they continue,
and it is sad that some don't believe that this
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entity is really evil. That is a pattern guys on
know why. Um. At the end of my story, I
want to reference some other things that I have heard
from a couple other places. Please be patient with me,
as I know you are very busy, never too busy
for this. I am all about putting out this information,
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so do not be distracted by my receiving emails. And
people are so kind. They're always so thoughtful and say
to me in these messages or emails, I know you're busy,
but I'm like, no, it's okay. Send this. This is
what I'm here for, all right, So they continue to
say my uncle's story from five years ago. One day
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in August, my uncle Samuel called me and he was
talking just about normal everyday things like yardwork, baseball, et cetera.
And let me tell you, Heidi, he is a strong
and very fundamental Christian. He is a no nonsense kind
of guy. He has never had an need ghosts or
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paranormal experiences. In fact, he believed that only occult dabbling
people had those kind of experiences. About ten minutes into
our phone call, he just out of the blue told me, Terry,
I had an experience a few nights ago with a demon.
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I was in shock. This was the last man I
expected to hear this from. I asked him what happened?
Now again, Heidi. He was sixty six at the time
and barely ever got online except for when he looked
at email, weather news, and a few preachers. That's cute.
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He had never heard of the hat man I had.
Because I had heard your interviews and read stories online
about it, I wasn't sure what to think. I never
mentioned it to sam because he would have told me
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it was nonsense. More than likely he is a southern
strict man who wanted to know nothing about the paranormal.
But now ten minutes into our conversation, he starts in
to tell me about his very scary experience from a
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few nights before. He said, it was about two or
three in the morning. He was in bed and in
the first bedroom down his hallway. He had awakened, and
it was not totally dark in his bedroom because he
had a light on in the bathroom right across the
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hall from him. His bedroom door he always kept half open.
He lives out Rule, Kentucky on his own private land
and is locked right and secure. He said, he was
wide awake, and this tall man is approaching his half
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open door, coming from the direction of his kitchen. Thanks
to the Holy Spirit, he discerned that this was evil
and not a human. All right, do you guys guess
what we gotta get to our next break? I know,
I know, but this will surely hold you over because
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You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with me. Heidi
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Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast
AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Today's show is all about your emails,
what it is that you're experiencing out there, and what
you'd like to share. And just before the break, I
am sorry I had to leave you guys hanging because
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we have an email from Terry, who is sharing about
a really creepy situation that they're super strict religious. Sixty
six year old uncle is sharing about a very tall
man approaching his bedroom door that is halfway open and
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he can see and discern, as they put it, that
whatever was coming was evil and not human. So to
continue this story, Terry dictates this entity reaches down to
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the door knob and opens the door all the way
to the door stopper. That is physical. Oh, I would
say that's physical. I mean, could there be fingerprints? Well,
there's a thought, right, he said. The deep man had
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on a wide brimmed dark hat and wore a long coat. Heidi,
when he told me that, chills went down my spine
because of what I had read and heard in your interviews. Again,
he had never heard of the name hat man. However,
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I let him continue his description. He said that he
couldn't see a clear face, but this thing was not
a shadow. It looked physical and had opened his door
all the way. Sam was numb with fear and he
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felt like he was going to die. Okay, I have
to stop right there. Okay. In the beginning, when I
first started talking about hat Man Shadow, I called him
hat Man shadows, as if he was a shadow being
another form that they could take because they do shapeshift.
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I had never seen him myself, so I did not
know how physical he was, and that's just it. Listen
to this very physical description of what it is that
he could and did do. This is so bone chilling
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when you hear these descriptions. It's so personal and interesting
enough that his uncle felt this presence coming and discerned
this was not human what was coming to him. Like
a lot of people have their theories about who hat
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Man is and they say, oh, he's this, he's that,
he's on this. He was a man that was possessed
way back in the day. I am telling you, until
you meet him, you will know he has nothing human,
never been human, and he will tell you he's not human. Oh, yeah,
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because hat man likes to talk nothing you ever want
to come across ever in your lifetime, because people resent
and regret the day they ever saw him once. Trust me,
I get the emails. Okay. Now this part where Terry
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is sharing that his uncle Sam was numb with fear
and he felt like he was going to die. This
is so common, so common. The people are so full
of fear. It is like they give up almost on
their lives. And that's when he really really takes advantage.
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But let's continue. I haven't read this ahead of time,
just so you know, I'm like you. I'm on the
head edge of my seat. Like what happens next? Okay um,
he continues. The hat man took a step into his
room and kept looking at him again. The only light
was to the entity's back from the bathroom light. Sam
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said to it, I rebuke you in the name of Jesus.
The entity didn't move. It continues to stand there and
look at him. Oh, I got chills. Sam said. He
was confused. He said, in the Bible it says evil
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will flee from the Messiah's name. Sam was really getting tense.
He had scooted against the headboard, thinking what am I
gonna do. Finally, Sam says, I pled the blood of
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Jesus and with that, like a split second, it just
instantly vanished. Oh did you guys get that chill? I
gotta chill. I got a chill. Um Wow, huh interesting.
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So hat man froze. He didn't move, and he, I guess,
I don't know what is that? You know, see kind
of testing it. I have heard of that where he
will freeze in the name of Jesus or absolutely disappear
when they hear that name. But he froze. He froze,
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He didn't move any further, and then Sam took a
step up, pleads the blood of Jesus and boop gone
to how that works? He continues, I was freaked out
just because I knew what it was. So I told him.
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He was like, how do you know? And I told
him how I had heard for years about it. I
had never and still have never seen it, thank god,
nor had any encounters of my own. So now, oh no,
he was really freaked out. However, he is still alive
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and it has not happened again in five years. He
was really upset because he's a strong Christian and thought
only people who tamper in the dark occult had these
things happen. Yeah, so that's a story, and I related
to you. I was curious how this thing doesn't just
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kick the door open and why it just didn't pop in. No,
it takes the door knob and pushes the door open.
That is a physical manifestation and not a shadow, as
you know. Okay, I'm addressed that part right now, because yeah,
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sometimes he does use the door. Sometimes he does use
a handle. Sometimes he breaks glass, Sometimes he's thrown garbage cans.
Sometimes he punches people. He has this ability to also
take a step into a closet and disappear. Why is
he like closets. I don't know what his deal is
with closets, But he'll walk through the wall, He'll walk
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through a tree. This is what he does and why
he chooses to do one thing over another. Maybe he
needs psychological treatment. I don't know, But all I know
is he's horrible. And to know that he was a
demon from like the bottom of your uncle's soul. What
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does it matter if he used the door knob, he
knew he wasn't human, he knew that he was absolutely
pure evil. So um, yeah, why does he wear a hat.
I want to know and it doesn't make any sense,
but I kind of do have an idea about that.
But he is very physical, but I don't understand why
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he does things as he does. Now this person continues.
Now Heidi comes the question and a quick comment or two. First,
is it a demon or a fallen angel um? Neither?
He says, he's the devil, and then they continue. And finally,
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Father Malachi Martin, in his second interview with Art Bell
and nineties, told a caller who was being dragged out
of the bed to do this and say, in the
name of God who created you, and in the name
of Jesus, who saved me, I exercise you. I told
you what my uncle said, pleading the blood of Jesus.
(40:19):
I apologize for this being so long. Oh don't don't apologize.
I hope you read it. And I love listening to
your podcast. Oh thank you. You sound amazing and more
serious when you are hosting on this show, and I
like the tone and style. I know you are a
joyful person, but you get down to business when you
(40:41):
talk of this awful entity. Oh my goodness, that's funny.
I have to address that. The fact that you named
Steiner's work was mind blowing. It is just crazy how
he did the sculpture and how it was done. You
revealed the hat man and I was just like, wow, Heidi,
(41:02):
you are a warrior and a warm person who is
helping others and I salute you. Wow. That touches me.
You guys have no idea. Um, keep with a good work.
I hope you read this to the end. I will
continue to listen to all of your research, guidance and
(41:23):
work you put in. Thank you so much. Oh wow, Terry,
that's that's the person's same. I am humbled, Terry. I'm humbled.
And there's a few things that I didn't address and
read off here, um, but I did write you back
about it. There's something that you've mentioned here at the
(41:46):
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a reason behind everything, and I think you might find
it interesting. So after the break, I'm going to chat
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before the break, I was reading off an email that
was really multifaceted with so many things going on and
experiences that Terry and his uncle had experience. And Wow,
I'm humbled, I really am. I I love it when
(45:28):
listeners let me know if I'm I'm hitting the mark.
Did did this help? And is it inspiring? And you know, Terry,
this was really kind of you. And uh, something that
you mentioned here A couple of things actually that you
mentioned here. Um, you you apologize for this email being
so long, and I always say on this show, make
(45:49):
it as long as you want, because it really really
paints the picture and gives the listeners a good idea
on patterns. Um. You get to see and hear these
patterns coming through and and it's really it resonates, and
I think it helps train the mind and the eye
to spot how these things break down a person. And
(46:14):
but something else that you had mentioned here, Terry that
your uncle. He's still alive. He hasn't experienced hat Man again.
And he was puzzled by what it was that this happened.
You know, why, why why did this happen? And a
lot of people think, well, you must have been playing
with the wig aboard, must have been doing this, must
(46:36):
have been doing that. You know, there are so many
strange things that attract him. It could be because he
was like this man of God, and Hatman thought I'm
going to see if I could scare him to death, because,
like you mentioned here, he thought he was going to die.
(46:57):
He knew it wasn't human. He knew he was facing
something that literally pulls people to hell. I mean imagine that.
I imagine that we're in this digital world. We've got
the coolest cars and boats and airplanes, and then something
that you recognize to be pure evil just opened the
(47:20):
door to your bedroom, and you have a staring competition,
and you use the words that you know and that
you've been taught to banish it. He say, Jesus name,
go away type of thing, and he froze. He froze.
He didn't disappear, But then he said, I pleaded the
(47:40):
blood of Christ. And then then he disappeared. So I
guess he realized your uncle wasn't going to back down.
But he's puzzled again why. But this could be any
number of reasons, and I'm glad he hasn't come back.
But I know that fear that people have when they've
experienced him like that. So in your face, the fear
(48:05):
the day he ever comes back, or he even considers it,
or even to speak his name. And you said your
uncle was freaked out that this is a real entity,
that this is a real thing that others are experiencing,
and it's in huge numbers, guys, huge numbers. I'm always
blown away that me one person speaking on these topics
(48:30):
when I can't tell you how many times people are like,
that's not a real thing. Uh, you know, it wasn't easy.
It wasn't easy, but I was highly determined, very much
like this. I don't know work or aunt. That's just like,
I'm not going to back down. I'm going to keep
(48:52):
going a little bit out of time, a little bit
at a time. You know, whenever I could, I would
try another route to read folks, and lo and behold,
I was successful, and only for a lot of the
message to get distorted out there and unfortunately and doing
(49:14):
my best to straighten that out. But yeah, I'm really
grateful for you, Terry, for taking the time to share
your story and and thank you for the kind words.
It does, it does help, it helps, helps encourage. I'm
not going to back down anyhow. Um that mentioning Rudolf
(49:35):
Steiner's work. Yeah, Um, for those of you who haven't
heard my other uh episodes, right, give the name of
hat Man. I learned what his name is, and I
had no idea that somebody else had sculpted him a
hundred years ago. As soon as I saw the image
(49:58):
of the sculpture, I'm like, wow, who did such an
accurate sculpture of hat Man? Without his hat? Of course? Um?
And it turned out to be Rudolf Steiner And I
was not familiar with his work at all, so crash
course for me. Um. But the name was Ariman And yeah,
(50:21):
scroll back through my my episodes here and have a
look at the big reveal. Isn't it the name of
one episode? And yeah, it's just I can't even tell
you that moment. That moment was something else to learn
of this, but something else that you mentioned here, Terry,
you mentioned Mike Tone and you know, I'm a joyful
(50:42):
person now so many times I've gone on coast to
coast am since two thousand and two, I believe, and
I'm always just like and one of those people that
has a giggle, you know. And and uh, I've done
(51:02):
talk radio as a host for a long time. Okay,
we're talking about close to fourteen fifteen years now, and
I've always done this show is really like upbeat fast
but you know, having a good old time with the
show and just being myself and I've enjoyed it. But
when I've come on a certain shows are being interviewed
(51:25):
and people are like, why, I don't know, can I
take her serious? Because she's giggling? Like really, like, does
that mean you lie because you giggle? I mean, what
is it? I mean? I laugh about most things in life.
I mean, I had a horrible injury and as the
PT was inflicting incredible pain on my body, I started
(51:48):
laughing because it's just my way of letting things out.
And one thing I also know, when it comes to evil,
they really hate it when you laugh. They don't have
much of a sense of humor that comes from a
good place. So what is laughter? It comes from a
(52:08):
good place, it really does. Um. So when I expressed myself,
I come as I am, and this is how I
address things in my life, even painful things. And people
are like said a nervous laugh. No, I'm not nervous.
I'm just being who I am. I have always just
(52:30):
been that way. And the strange thing this is hilarious.
I'm not ticklish, so maybe that's why I laugh at
most other things. I don't know what that is, but
any who, Um, yeah, so it's it's it's strange to
me that how it comes across on podcasts and interviews
where people are like, m I could tell she's a
(52:52):
joyful person. Thank you, Terry. I'm glad you recognize that.
And then while others are like, well can I take
her serious because she's giggling out. I have worked in
major cities and UH as a therapist, and people that
got to know me, you know, I'm pretty much how
I am. I mean, I'm just like happy, go lucky
(53:13):
pretty much. And the folks that would learn of my
background writing these books on everything from Jesus Encounters to
Angel Encounters to shadow people and hat Man and all
this stuff and aliens. Uh, the folks that would learn
of this that are really kind of you know, scientific
(53:34):
medical folks, They're like, wow, Heidi, do you know because
you are just so who you are, just happy, go lucky,
regular person that you know, I probably wouldn't believe somebody
else talking on these things, but because you can do
(53:55):
it so casually, it convinces me. Other eyes, I'll check
that out. You know, a lot of these shows and
people that go and speak on these horrific topics or
crossing over to the other side topics, they are dead
pan serious, dead pan serious, and I'm like, wow, if
(54:19):
I did that, I think I'd hurt myself. And and
trying to hold that look on my face because it, oh,
it's really really challenging. I'm I know, for my first
few episodes here on doing Dark Becomes Light that I
tried to keep it more serious and on the level.
(54:39):
And and even still I'm still more serious on the level.
And but that's not typically how I am. Um, for
any of you who have heard my past radio shows
that I've I've hosted, I mean it's a party, um,
I mean just being who I am. And but still
I just I try to keep that part of me
(55:02):
here through this program as well, even though I am
keeping it more tone and then at a certain style,
and uh, people get used to a certain delivery, I
guess when it comes to these topics, and uh, but
still understand there are people who really do appreciate like
(55:23):
that are not looking into these topics. They appreciate a regular,
everyday person who works with them, who goes, oh, I
saw a demon again last night, you know, and and
just keeping it real and they feel more comfortable to
ask questions instead of hiding because I'm not hiding and
I'm just being who I am. Though my name is Heidi.
(55:45):
People like to okay whatever, Um yeah, but yeah, I
mean sometimes just be the example. Be who you are.
I think that's really important. I don't know how else
to be, but then to be myself. And I could
say that. I know I've brought a lot of people
(56:06):
into awareness who probably never would have been because I
was just my happy, go lucky self. So yeah, you'll
hear me giggle on the show and crack a joke
or two because that's who I am. Well, we have
come to the bottom of another program, and I want
to encourage you all to go to shadow Folks dot
com or Heidi Hollis dot com and also check out
(56:28):
my paranormal comic strip, The Outlanders Comic dot com. And
remember send all that you've experienced out there. I am
more than happy to read what you're experiencing, and if
you'd like to come on here to share your story,
you are always welcome to do that. Wow, this has
(56:50):
been a really fascinating show. Um, yeah, I'll catch you
next time. You have been listening to Dark Becomes Light
with me Heidi Hollis on I Heart Radio and Coast
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you can pop on here and share your story and
do just that. This is for you, this is for me,
This is for everybody. I want it to be a conversation.
And uh, I think it's about time that week get
to that point, don't you. Today is going to be
(02:05):
one of my favorite types of shows where I am
only taking your emails, your stories, and uh wow, I
always enjoy this part because it really helps me connect
with what it is people are experiencing. I mean, how
else am I going to get to the bottom of
any of this unless you keep in touch with me
(02:28):
and I do my best to put it out there.
All right. So this first email, this says, Dear Heidi,
thank you so much for sharing your information on a
recent radio interview. It is nice to know I'm not
alone and not crazy. I've not had a lot of
(02:51):
experiences that you and the host had, but I've had
enough weirdness that I've questioned thing since I was a child.
That's sad, isn't it that we question ourselves because people
say it's so odd to speak of these topics they continue.
(03:12):
One thing that has resonated with me was the feeling
of being here at this time for a purpose. I've
had the crazy idea that we are all pieces in
a giant chess match that we can't comprehend, and that
I volunteered or agreed to be here. I've spent a
(03:33):
good portion of my life preparing for a battle of
some sort, years in the martial arts and tactical training.
I've had two dreams that were just not normal dreams.
The first one came true and always stuck with me
the feel of it. You guys ever have those types
(03:54):
of so called dreams that seem so real and it's
like hard to believe it didn't happen. I personally call
those uh, waking dreams where you feel like you're awake.
So um, yeah, that's that's that's amazing. Okay, so it happened.
The second one has not yet come true, but may
(04:15):
actually be coming true in a form I didn't expect.
I've had times when I clearly have heard internally to
do something or not to do something. I don't ignore it.
Bad things happen when I do. I've seen shadow people
(04:37):
and even had sleep paralysis. The last time was a
year or so ago and was the first time in
a long time that had happened. My dog that had
died recently showed up while I was praying and telling
it to leave, and it left unsure why Dakota showed up.
(05:01):
I don't see many relatives and dreams, or at least
I don't remember them. I've always questioned the narrative and
felt that the truth would be a mix of everything
combined in some way. I've asked God for confirmation on
certain things and actually have had answers in different ways.
(05:24):
There was this group that was researching the Hebrew language
called the Chronicle Project. To make a long story short,
they found Hebrew was actually a self defining language and
each symbol was a word. That's interesting. I never heard
of that. Their translation of the Creation story from the
(05:45):
oldest version of it in Hebrew actually lines up a
great deal with most of this. They could also see
where things had been added in due to the way
it would translate out. I'm not sure what my part
to play in this would be. I do know where
I am supposed to be at this time. I would
(06:09):
like to know if there's anything else I should be
doing other than what I am. I work as an
inhospital nurse practitioner. For what it's worth. I would have
never pegged myself in the past as an impath, but
I am. I've fought with it my entire life, and
(06:30):
it was terrible in my teens and twenties. It has
taken a long time to understand myself better, hard to
see something I always thought of as a weakness is
actually a strength. Thank you for listening, Sandy. Wow, Sandy,
thank you so much for taking the time to write
(06:52):
so much detail and seriously heartfelt um for the listeners
that are trying to grasp it is that Sandy is
referring to. I did do an interview more recently, and
I was talking about how over the years I've had
a great deal of people reach out to me after
(07:14):
they've read my book, The Secret War, and they've told
me how they were surprised to find they could relate
to a lot of things that I wrote in there.
And what it was that I think is really triggering
some folks, is uh, this inner knowing, like like we're
(07:34):
here at this time for something really specific, Like we
feel like warriors ready to take something on, Like we
don't know exactly what it is, but we know kind
of what it is, and we know it's a big
freaking deal, but we're not exactly sure what the deal is.
Always it's a it's a strange thing. It's a strange balance.
(07:58):
It's like you're on the ready and you know it's
something against evil and you're working on the good side
of stuff, and and and it pulls at you, it
gets you. Like this, Sandy here said, you know, done
martial arts. I feel like I'm prepared and I'm ready
for battle. And these people find that they're digging into
(08:19):
these certain topics and they're they're making themselves aware they're
physically fit, or they meditate in order to project and
feel if something is coming this away and uh, and
also to know that where they're situated at like somehow
that's connected to whatever this drive is to beyond the ready.
(08:41):
Like and when these people would reach out to me,
they're like, what is this? You know, I felt it
when I read your book that this is this is right,
this is this is it? This is like part of
this And and I like to ask him where where
are you at? And they're like, Peru, Colombia, you know,
(09:01):
all these different countries and and I'm like, great, it's
like it's it's nice to recognize and know where you're
at as you feel prepared and ready for this battle
as well. And and it's kind of like a nod
of recognition because we resonate and we are finding each other,
and it's it's such a it's kind of a thing
(09:24):
without words, but just oh, it's a big something. It's
a big something. And I know for people who are
not exactly in the know about what I'm what I'm
speaking of here, it sounds kind of baffling, but oh,
when you sit on the receiving end of some of
(09:45):
the emails and the messages that I get, it wouldn't
be baffling, not one bit. You'd be like just smiling
from the inside out. It's a it's a really really
really comforting thought knowing, like you know, everybody always asks,
(10:05):
you know, what's my purpose? What am I doing here?
But we have this thing that says, I kind of
know what my purposes. I kind of get it. I'm
here at this time for a reason. I know I
know this, but you can't really express it. It's like
and then here I was. I was in college when
(10:27):
I wrote that book, The Secret War, the first one
that discusses shadow people, and I spoke of this battle
that's coming, that's between good and evil in the form
of shadow people, hat Man and these other beings that
kind of work with them as well, whether willingly or unwillingly.
(10:51):
And now I sit here and I'm I'm receiving these
multitude of emails from around the globe of people experience
exactly what I wrote that book about, that these beings
are approaching and digging into our souls and making room
for their horrible things. And as much as it seems
(11:15):
like a fantasy, time and time again, at least once
a week I get somebody who writes me and says,
I thought it was the only one. I thought I
was alone in this, only to find this is a
bigger phenomena. And sometimes it's reassuring to know that I
(11:36):
pulled another person into this understanding. But sometimes it's just
gives me the sinking feeling that it's growing so much
that there goes another one. You know, it's really really
complicating and difficult topic for me to always pull it
(11:57):
all in and let it sing again about how big
this is and how much worse it is now with
Sandy has written here also dives a little bit deeper
into some other areas that I want to I want
to give some decent time too, So I don't want
(12:18):
to cram it all in here before we go to
our break, because there's some patterns. There's some patterns here
that I'm I'm curious if all of you who are
more used to listening to me now speaking all the subjects,
if you picked up on them and why some of
the things may have happened in Sandy's life, and so
(12:40):
we're going to dive on in. So guys, stick around.
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dark becomes light, right all right? So, just before the break,
I had Sandy who wrote a very interesting email. It
(16:42):
was in regards to an interview that I gave recently.
I'm talking about this recognition that a lot of us
around the world are are having about this unique time
that we're in, Like there's something inner that's tell telling
us I'm on the ready. I'm supposed to be here,
(17:05):
and I feel like a warrior of a sort. And
it's so odd. It's so odd to say to some people,
but not to others who feel this. And and I
kind of mentioned his son this interview I gave recently,
and uh, and I got this beautiful message here from
Sandy saying, I know that feeling. And over the years,
(17:29):
I mean, I have easily had about a hundred people
reach out to me saying the same thing, and from
all walks of life, I mean, from everywhere, all over
the world and using Google Translate, like I know, I know,
I know what you're saying, you know, like, yes, it's
awesome to recognize you too. And I honestly was going
(17:51):
to like start a group or something because it was
so many people that would randomly pop up. You know,
it's probably been over a hundred, but it it's such
a unique feel and I don't know, energy and a nod.
It's a nod of I recognize you, I see you.
(18:14):
And uh, you know, it's not about ego, it's not
about anything. It's just this thing, right. So Sandy writes
about that, and she also is writing about how she
has this inner voice that a lot of us have,
but sometimes it seems really audible. That's like do this,
(18:38):
don't do that, like a like a direction to make
sure that you're on the ready. Like this is how
I'm reading it, this is how I'm feeling. And so
this is a pattern that Okay, some of you that
I haven't really spoke about this type of thing on
this program, but this is this is this thing, this
is that something, and I just I don't have the
(19:01):
best words for it. But this is another pattern of
people who are up against this dark force that's here
that I've written about so many times in my books
that it's it's like spiritual warfare. It really is. Um
we say aliens, we say shadow people always say hat man,
(19:24):
you know, but it's all in the same arena. Uh So, yeah,
you know when people feel like, gosh, this evil is
getting out of control, it might win. Oh heck, no,
it's not. It's not going to win. And I think
there's a lot of sleepers who are waking up. But
it's not like we're actually sleeping though, either, because we
(19:47):
kind of are in this no that we just can't
put into words. Um that I feel is just really
so magical. But how can you say God is everywhere,
and he's in all of us, and some of us
are looking at I'm going, yeah, I think I'm here
(20:11):
working for you, aren't I? But we all are if
we choose to write. It's a weird thing. I don't
know how to express it best, but um, there is
that pattern right there that here is somebody who also
speaking of shadow people and sleep paralysis. So people who
(20:34):
have this light in them, it attracts darkness, that really does.
It's like flies to outdoor porch light. I mean, so
these things just come. So I'm I'm not surprised, but interesting.
Sandy goes into this thing where the sleep paralysis happened,
(20:57):
and their dog had recently died showed up while they
were praying and telling this shadow being to go away, right,
And they're like, gosh, just not sure why Dakota would
show up. That's the name of their dog. And It's like, well,
it's obvious to me because our protectors come in all
(21:19):
shapes and forms, and obviously Dakota was there to help
you out. And I think that's absolutely brilliant and beautiful,
and that is another pattern and keeping these things at
bay but also attracting them because of what it is
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that you feel your purpose is to be doing, or
that you're insightful, or you have experienced other things. This
is all attractive to these dark beings. I mean, they
want to limit us, They want to totally stump out
our our light. And when somebody has that that, I
(22:04):
don't know where they resonate this something that they feel
is all for the positive, all for the good. Oh
you better believe, you better believe this stuff will just
come flying at him. So not a surprise. And and
Sandy's in the helping field. She's a nurse, I'm an
occupational therapist, so helping people is just so much a
(22:28):
part of who she is, which I think is just
another tell of these hidden warriors. So the balance is here, guys,
it really is. We are not going to sit idly
by and let this darkness hand any kind of sentence
(22:52):
that isn't going to be met with a nice battle.
Let's just put it that way. So thank you so
much Sandy for taking the time to write in. And
we've got another. This is a bigger email, which I
appreciate and I think you guys do too, because it
really helps to paint the picture. As I always say,
(23:14):
all right, so this one says, uh, dear Heidi, I'm
listening to your new podcasts. That's this one, and you
are amazing. Well, thank you. It's very kind of you.
I used to listen to you when George Norri had
you as a guest on Coast to Coast. I am
fascinated that you coined the term hat man, as it
(23:34):
is really the best description. You are also awesome on
sub breddit too. I personally recently discovered that I just
don't go looking for these little outlets that people are
venting on and I found that so um, they continue,
and it is sad that some don't believe that this
(23:55):
entity is really evil. That is a pattern guys on
know why. Um. At the end of my story, I
want to reference some other things that I have heard
from a couple other places. Please be patient with me,
as I know you are very busy, never too busy
for this. I am all about putting out this information,
(24:18):
so do not be distracted by my receiving emails. And
people are so kind. They're always so thoughtful and say
to me in these messages or emails, I know you're busy,
but I'm like, no, it's okay. Send this. This is
what I'm here for, all right, So they continue to
say my uncle's story from five years ago. One day
(24:39):
in August, my uncle Samuel called me and he was
talking just about normal everyday things like yardwork, baseball, et cetera.
And let me tell you, Heidi, he is a strong
and very fundamental Christian. He is a no nonsense kind
of guy. He has never had an need ghosts or
(25:00):
paranormal experiences. In fact, he believed that only occult dabbling
people had those kind of experiences. About ten minutes into
our phone call, he just out of the blue told me, Terry,
I had an experience a few nights ago with a demon.
(25:23):
I was in shock. This was the last man I
expected to hear this from. I asked him what happened?
Now again, Heidi. He was sixty six at the time
and barely ever got online except for when he looked
at email, weather news, and a few preachers. That's cute.
(25:48):
He had never heard of the hat man I had.
Because I had heard your interviews and read stories online
about it, I wasn't sure what to think. I never
mentioned it to sam because he would have told me
(26:08):
it was nonsense. More than likely he is a southern
strict man who wanted to know nothing about the paranormal.
But now ten minutes into our conversation, he starts in
to tell me about his very scary experience from a
(26:32):
few nights before. He said, it was about two or
three in the morning. He was in bed and in
the first bedroom down his hallway. He had awakened, and
it was not totally dark in his bedroom because he
had a light on in the bathroom right across the
(26:52):
hall from him. His bedroom door he always kept half open.
He lives out Rule, Kentucky on his own private land
and is locked right and secure. He said, he was
wide awake, and this tall man is approaching his half
(27:17):
open door, coming from the direction of his kitchen. Thanks
to the Holy Spirit, he discerned that this was evil
and not a human. All right, do you guys guess
what we gotta get to our next break? I know,
I know, but this will surely hold you over because
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You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with me. Heidi
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Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast
AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Today's show is all about your emails,
what it is that you're experiencing out there, and what
you'd like to share. And just before the break, I
am sorry I had to leave you guys hanging because
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we have an email from Terry, who is sharing about
a really creepy situation that they're super strict religious. Sixty
six year old uncle is sharing about a very tall
man approaching his bedroom door that is halfway open and
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he can see and discern, as they put it, that
whatever was coming was evil and not human. So to
continue this story, Terry dictates this entity reaches down to
(31:40):
the door knob and opens the door all the way
to the door stopper. That is physical. Oh, I would
say that's physical. I mean, could there be fingerprints? Well,
there's a thought, right, he said. The deep man had
(32:00):
on a wide brimmed dark hat and wore a long coat. Heidi,
when he told me that, chills went down my spine
because of what I had read and heard in your interviews. Again,
he had never heard of the name hat man. However,
(32:26):
I let him continue his description. He said that he
couldn't see a clear face, but this thing was not
a shadow. It looked physical and had opened his door
all the way. Sam was numb with fear and he
(32:49):
felt like he was going to die. Okay, I have
to stop right there. Okay. In the beginning, when I
first started talking about hat Man Shadow, I called him
hat Man shadows, as if he was a shadow being
another form that they could take because they do shapeshift.
(33:12):
I had never seen him myself, so I did not
know how physical he was, and that's just it. Listen
to this very physical description of what it is that
he could and did do. This is so bone chilling
(33:36):
when you hear these descriptions. It's so personal and interesting
enough that his uncle felt this presence coming and discerned
this was not human what was coming to him. Like
a lot of people have their theories about who hat
(33:56):
Man is and they say, oh, he's this, he's that,
he's on this. He was a man that was possessed
way back in the day. I am telling you, until
you meet him, you will know he has nothing human,
never been human, and he will tell you he's not human. Oh, yeah,
(34:18):
because hat man likes to talk nothing you ever want
to come across ever in your lifetime, because people resent
and regret the day they ever saw him once. Trust me,
I get the emails. Okay. Now this part where Terry
(34:40):
is sharing that his uncle Sam was numb with fear
and he felt like he was going to die. This
is so common, so common. The people are so full
of fear. It is like they give up almost on
their lives. And that's when he really really takes advantage.
(35:03):
But let's continue. I haven't read this ahead of time,
just so you know, I'm like you. I'm on the
head edge of my seat. Like what happens next? Okay um,
he continues. The hat man took a step into his
room and kept looking at him again. The only light
was to the entity's back from the bathroom light. Sam
(35:28):
said to it, I rebuke you in the name of Jesus.
The entity didn't move. It continues to stand there and
look at him. Oh, I got chills. Sam said. He
was confused. He said, in the Bible it says evil
(35:49):
will flee from the Messiah's name. Sam was really getting tense.
He had scooted against the headboard, thinking what am I
gonna do. Finally, Sam says, I pled the blood of
(36:10):
Jesus and with that, like a split second, it just
instantly vanished. Oh did you guys get that chill? I
gotta chill. I got a chill. Um Wow, huh interesting.
(36:30):
So hat man froze. He didn't move, and he, I guess,
I don't know what is that? You know, see kind
of testing it. I have heard of that where he
will freeze in the name of Jesus or absolutely disappear
when they hear that name. But he froze. He froze,
(36:53):
He didn't move any further, and then Sam took a
step up, pleads the blood of Jesus and boop gone
to how that works? He continues, I was freaked out
just because I knew what it was. So I told him.
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He was like, how do you know? And I told
him how I had heard for years about it. I
had never and still have never seen it, thank god,
nor had any encounters of my own. So now, oh no,
he was really freaked out. However, he is still alive
(37:38):
and it has not happened again in five years. He
was really upset because he's a strong Christian and thought
only people who tamper in the dark occult had these
things happen. Yeah, so that's a story, and I related
to you. I was curious how this thing doesn't just
(38:01):
kick the door open and why it just didn't pop in. No,
it takes the door knob and pushes the door open.
That is a physical manifestation and not a shadow, as
you know. Okay, I'm addressed that part right now, because yeah,
(38:27):
sometimes he does use the door. Sometimes he does use
a handle. Sometimes he breaks glass, Sometimes he's thrown garbage cans.
Sometimes he punches people. He has this ability to also
take a step into a closet and disappear. Why is
he like closets. I don't know what his deal is
with closets, But he'll walk through the wall, He'll walk
(38:48):
through a tree. This is what he does and why
he chooses to do one thing over another. Maybe he
needs psychological treatment. I don't know, But all I know
is he's horrible. And to know that he was a
demon from like the bottom of your uncle's soul. What
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does it matter if he used the door knob, he
knew he wasn't human, he knew that he was absolutely
pure evil. So um, yeah, why does he wear a hat.
I want to know and it doesn't make any sense,
but I kind of do have an idea about that.
But he is very physical, but I don't understand why
(39:35):
he does things as he does. Now this person continues.
Now Heidi comes the question and a quick comment or two. First,
is it a demon or a fallen angel um? Neither?
He says, he's the devil, and then they continue. And finally,
(39:55):
Father Malachi Martin, in his second interview with Art Bell
and nineties, told a caller who was being dragged out
of the bed to do this and say, in the
name of God who created you, and in the name
of Jesus, who saved me, I exercise you. I told
you what my uncle said, pleading the blood of Jesus.
(40:19):
I apologize for this being so long. Oh don't don't apologize.
I hope you read it. And I love listening to
your podcast. Oh thank you. You sound amazing and more
serious when you are hosting on this show, and I
like the tone and style. I know you are a
joyful person, but you get down to business when you
(40:41):
talk of this awful entity. Oh my goodness, that's funny.
I have to address that. The fact that you named
Steiner's work was mind blowing. It is just crazy how
he did the sculpture and how it was done. You
revealed the hat man and I was just like, wow, Heidi,
(41:02):
you are a warrior and a warm person who is
helping others and I salute you. Wow. That touches me.
You guys have no idea. Um, keep with a good work.
I hope you read this to the end. I will
continue to listen to all of your research, guidance and
(41:23):
work you put in. Thank you so much. Oh wow, Terry,
that's that's the person's same. I am humbled, Terry. I'm humbled.
And there's a few things that I didn't address and
read off here, um, but I did write you back
about it. There's something that you've mentioned here at the
(41:46):
end that I wanted to address that I think you
and the listeners will find interesting When you mentioned my
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a reason behind everything, and I think you might find
it interesting. So after the break, I'm going to chat
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hundred three four Welcome back. You are listening to Dark
Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart
Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast Network. Just
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before the break, I was reading off an email that
was really multifaceted with so many things going on and
experiences that Terry and his uncle had experience. And Wow,
I'm humbled, I really am. I I love it when
(45:28):
listeners let me know if I'm I'm hitting the mark.
Did did this help? And is it inspiring? And you know, Terry,
this was really kind of you. And uh, something that
you mentioned here A couple of things actually that you
mentioned here. Um, you you apologize for this email being
so long, and I always say on this show, make
(45:49):
it as long as you want, because it really really
paints the picture and gives the listeners a good idea
on patterns. Um. You get to see and hear these
patterns coming through and and it's really it resonates, and
I think it helps train the mind and the eye
to spot how these things break down a person. And
(46:14):
but something else that you had mentioned here, Terry that
your uncle. He's still alive. He hasn't experienced hat Man again.
And he was puzzled by what it was that this happened.
You know, why, why why did this happen? And a
lot of people think, well, you must have been playing
with the wig aboard, must have been doing this, must
(46:36):
have been doing that. You know, there are so many
strange things that attract him. It could be because he
was like this man of God, and Hatman thought I'm
going to see if I could scare him to death, because,
like you mentioned here, he thought he was going to die.
(46:57):
He knew it wasn't human. He knew he was facing
something that literally pulls people to hell. I mean imagine that.
I imagine that we're in this digital world. We've got
the coolest cars and boats and airplanes, and then something
that you recognize to be pure evil just opened the
(47:20):
door to your bedroom, and you have a staring competition,
and you use the words that you know and that
you've been taught to banish it. He say, Jesus name,
go away type of thing, and he froze. He froze.
He didn't disappear, But then he said, I pleaded the
(47:40):
blood of Christ. And then then he disappeared. So I
guess he realized your uncle wasn't going to back down.
But he's puzzled again why. But this could be any
number of reasons, and I'm glad he hasn't come back.
But I know that fear that people have when they've
experienced him like that. So in your face, the fear
(48:05):
the day he ever comes back, or he even considers it,
or even to speak his name. And you said your
uncle was freaked out that this is a real entity,
that this is a real thing that others are experiencing,
and it's in huge numbers, guys, huge numbers. I'm always
blown away that me one person speaking on these topics
(48:30):
when I can't tell you how many times people are like,
that's not a real thing. Uh, you know, it wasn't easy.
It wasn't easy, but I was highly determined, very much
like this. I don't know work or aunt. That's just like,
I'm not going to back down. I'm going to keep
(48:52):
going a little bit out of time, a little bit
at a time. You know, whenever I could, I would
try another route to read folks, and lo and behold,
I was successful, and only for a lot of the
message to get distorted out there and unfortunately and doing
(49:14):
my best to straighten that out. But yeah, I'm really
grateful for you, Terry, for taking the time to share
your story and and thank you for the kind words.
It does, it does help, it helps, helps encourage. I'm
not going to back down anyhow. Um that mentioning Rudolf
(49:35):
Steiner's work. Yeah, Um, for those of you who haven't
heard my other uh episodes, right, give the name of
hat Man. I learned what his name is, and I
had no idea that somebody else had sculpted him a
hundred years ago. As soon as I saw the image
(49:58):
of the sculpture, I'm like, wow, who did such an
accurate sculpture of hat Man? Without his hat? Of course? Um?
And it turned out to be Rudolf Steiner And I
was not familiar with his work at all, so crash
course for me. Um. But the name was Ariman And yeah,
(50:21):
scroll back through my my episodes here and have a
look at the big reveal. Isn't it the name of
one episode? And yeah, it's just I can't even tell
you that moment. That moment was something else to learn
of this, but something else that you mentioned here, Terry,
you mentioned Mike Tone and you know, I'm a joyful
(50:42):
person now so many times I've gone on coast to
coast am since two thousand and two, I believe, and
I'm always just like and one of those people that
has a giggle, you know. And and uh, I've done
(51:02):
talk radio as a host for a long time. Okay,
we're talking about close to fourteen fifteen years now, and
I've always done this show is really like upbeat fast
but you know, having a good old time with the
show and just being myself and I've enjoyed it. But
when I've come on a certain shows are being interviewed
(51:25):
and people are like, why, I don't know, can I
take her serious? Because she's giggling? Like really, like, does
that mean you lie because you giggle? I mean, what
is it? I mean? I laugh about most things in life.
I mean, I had a horrible injury and as the
PT was inflicting incredible pain on my body, I started
(51:48):
laughing because it's just my way of letting things out.
And one thing I also know, when it comes to evil,
they really hate it when you laugh. They don't have
much of a sense of humor that comes from a
good place. So what is laughter? It comes from a
(52:08):
good place, it really does. Um. So when I expressed myself,
I come as I am, and this is how I
address things in my life, even painful things. And people
are like said a nervous laugh. No, I'm not nervous.
I'm just being who I am. I have always just
(52:30):
been that way. And the strange thing this is hilarious.
I'm not ticklish, so maybe that's why I laugh at
most other things. I don't know what that is, but
any who, Um, yeah, so it's it's it's strange to
me that how it comes across on podcasts and interviews
where people are like, m I could tell she's a
(52:52):
joyful person. Thank you, Terry. I'm glad you recognize that.
And then while others are like, well can I take
her serious because she's giggling out. I have worked in
major cities and UH as a therapist, and people that
got to know me, you know, I'm pretty much how
I am. I mean, I'm just like happy, go lucky
(53:13):
pretty much. And the folks that would learn of my
background writing these books on everything from Jesus Encounters to
Angel Encounters to shadow people and hat Man and all
this stuff and aliens. Uh, the folks that would learn
of this that are really kind of you know, scientific
(53:34):
medical folks, They're like, wow, Heidi, do you know because
you are just so who you are, just happy, go lucky,
regular person that you know, I probably wouldn't believe somebody
else talking on these things, but because you can do
(53:55):
it so casually, it convinces me. Other eyes, I'll check
that out. You know, a lot of these shows and
people that go and speak on these horrific topics or
crossing over to the other side topics, they are dead
pan serious, dead pan serious, and I'm like, wow, if
(54:19):
I did that, I think I'd hurt myself. And and
trying to hold that look on my face because it, oh,
it's really really challenging. I'm I know, for my first
few episodes here on doing Dark Becomes Light that I
tried to keep it more serious and on the level.
(54:39):
And and even still I'm still more serious on the level.
And but that's not typically how I am. Um, for
any of you who have heard my past radio shows
that I've I've hosted, I mean it's a party, um,
I mean just being who I am. And but still
I just I try to keep that part of me
(55:02):
here through this program as well, even though I am
keeping it more tone and then at a certain style,
and uh, people get used to a certain delivery, I
guess when it comes to these topics, and uh, but
still understand there are people who really do appreciate like
(55:23):
that are not looking into these topics. They appreciate a regular,
everyday person who works with them, who goes, oh, I
saw a demon again last night, you know, and and
just keeping it real and they feel more comfortable to
ask questions instead of hiding because I'm not hiding and
I'm just being who I am. Though my name is Heidi.
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People like to okay whatever, Um yeah, but yeah, I
mean sometimes just be the example. Be who you are.
I think that's really important. I don't know how else
to be, but then to be myself. And I could
say that. I know I've brought a lot of people
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into awareness who probably never would have been because I
was just my happy, go lucky self. So yeah, you'll
hear me giggle on the show and crack a joke
or two because that's who I am. Well, we have
come to the bottom of another program, and I want
to encourage you all to go to shadow Folks dot
com or Heidi Hollis dot com and also check out
(56:28):
my paranormal comic strip, The Outlanders Comic dot com. And
remember send all that you've experienced out there. I am
more than happy to read what you're experiencing, and if
you'd like to come on here to share your story,
you are always welcome to do that. Wow, this has
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been a really fascinating show. Um, yeah, I'll catch you
next time. You have been listening to Dark Becomes Light
with me Heidi Hollis on I Heart Radio and Coast
to Coast a m Paranormal Podcast Network. We'll catch you
next time. Be safe, goodbye everybody. Well, if you liked
(57:16):
this edition of Dark Becomes Light, wait til you hear
the next one. You've been listening to the I Heart
Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network
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