403: My New Game

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I need to apologize to you guys, because I said
one fifteen and I am now eight minutes, nine minutes late.
That is my I apologize. I'm afraid to say anything,
and don't. You don't have to say anything. I'm apologizing
to you, and I'm apologizing to the fans. The ship
got on the road a little late. That being said,

(00:22):
a lot of news has happened in between now and
one o'clock. Jeff Bezos has now stepped down as CEO
of Amazon. Yeah, why are you so excited about that?
How does that affect us in anything? Because there's a
job opening and it could be me. I don't know
if they're this is America, Jack. I don't know if

(00:43):
they're hiring actors for the position. But you can try audition,
maybe set itself to listen. I've seen Ted talk. All
Ted talk is is somebody getting up on stage and
convincing you that they are on point with their stuff.
I love how you struggled for the sentence, on point

(01:04):
with their stuff, with their stuff. That's like that what's
his name? The simple guy in the Simpsons when he goes, Lisa,
do you like stuff? Yes? That's when Ralph Wickham's trying
to flirt with Lisa. I like stuff, but I know
what it is. I know how to do that. If

(01:24):
somebody writes it for me, I got you. I'm an actor,
That's what I do. I have a theory that running
Amazon maybe a bit out of your skill set, don't
I didn't say I wanted to run Amazon. I want
to be the face of Amazon. How about that? That's
what I want. I want to be the face of Amazon.

(01:46):
When you think of toys and packages and deliveries and
a bunch of jobs for Americans, I want you to
think of me. Okay, okay, maybe they'll put your face
on the box if you get the job. That's branding.
Speaking of your face on things, we should talk about
this awesome new merch that's in the merch shop for everybody. Hi, everybody, welcome.

(02:09):
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(02:30):
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but it's actually real cool. Even if you don't even
if you don't have a badge that you need to
pull on, you can put your keys on it. It's
almost like I gotta say, and I'm not just saying
this because we made them. It's a nice fidget toy.

(02:51):
You know how you used to have the fidget toys. Yeah,
I have it on my desk and I've been fidgeting
with it all day. Okay, but you gotta put it down.
We're doing a podcast. I know, I'm all right. I'm sorry.
It's like when I ate and people get all upset.
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(03:12):
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(03:32):
bring you to our merch page. We know you guys
like merch because you seem to buy a lot of it.
And we have new stuff for Valentine's Day. You know what.
I love the locket because you know what, it reminds
me of what betcha he reads? Betcha she so's Maybe
she's made me a closet of clothes. Maybe they're strict.

(03:55):
Why shouldn't they be? They're one mistake was given a me.
Maybe I want to know the audience to know that
if you know what that is, you either are gay
or love musicals or both, as is Mike. Here we go.

(04:21):
So maybe now there's prayer, go ahead, the last one
of it's kind. Won't you please come get your baby? Baby?
Let him have it with that note, girl, babe, give

(04:46):
me a little run. Girl. I don't know if we
can beat that intro. Let's get into it. Five six seven?
Ear how about s about a bunch of nurses? Story? Sound? Yeah,

(05:19):
We're gonna do a shorter show today. You know why why?
Because I have been affected by negative comments on my Instagram?
What happened? So what happened. It's because the GT, isn't
it they? I had people saying the GTS thing was boring.
I had people saying they didn't want to hear about
the stock market, and a I'm giving them social media
because I'm so fucking sick of social media and maybe

(05:42):
I'm not taking my criticism well today, but we're gonna
give the people what they want. How many people are
gonna we're gonna go, We're gonna go right to the show?
How many people said it was boring? And how many
people said they didn't want to hear about the stock market?
I started, I stopped reading it, but there were probably
like four um stopped doing a GT kombucha ad and
like maybe three don't talk about the stock market, So

(06:06):
maybe seven people piss me off? Really yeah, out of
out of over a million, I love the fact that
you got to take a break. If anything, now is
the time to take a break. Well, I am taking
a Twitter break. I gotta tell you it's you know
that that documentary. Did you guys watch the documentary? What's
it called? The Social Dilemma? Is? Yeah? I was really

(06:27):
if you haven't seen that and you're listening to this,
please check it out. It's on Was it on Netflix? Yeah?
I was on Netflix. It's really mind blowing about and Donald,
I know you watched it. Just about how these these
these apps were designed to be addictive, and I am
fully been addicted to time. I'm I'm so addicted, dude,
I'm so addicted. I'm now paying money on apps. Now.
It's so bad because you know you're buying shit, buying

(06:50):
shit on apps, like there'll be video games, and I'm like,
I really need this power up though. But I'm talking about,
like I'm talking about, through all this insane news cycle
between Trump and the pandemic and everything else, I have
been addicted to Twitter. I just read news NonStop like
a drug. Just what happened this second? What happened this second?

(07:13):
And then I watched the documentary and I laughed at myself.
I'm going, it's just no different than any other addiction.
I'm fully addicted to this app. And the app is
so negative and cynical and just a rain cloud. I
find that I'm then filling my brain with just fucking
a fire hose of negativity. Well, everybody, I would like

(07:34):
to stop that. Everybody seems to think that their information
is the correct information. Where they're getting their information is
the by it's the information of the gods. It seems
like my information is so perfect and so on point

(07:56):
with what I which with what triggers me that I
can't stop looking at my social media and phones, you
know what I mean. So my phone, so whatever whatever
I started, whatever algorithm I created, it's so perfect for
me now that it's like, like you're talking about, I

(08:17):
wake up in the morning, I grab my phone, I
get on the toilet, I grab my phone, you know
what I mean. Like, it's like it's crazy. And that's
what and that's what social media is. It's made to
trigger you to because it sees what you what you
what you keep tapping on and now you're gonna get
flooded with. Of course, what I learned on the documentary
was that even when you're on Instagram, even when you're

(08:37):
scrolling by things, and let's say, you slow down because
for me, it's like a camera gadget, let's say, because
that's what my whole feed is, like puppies and camera gadgets.
But like you slow down, it's registering, oh, even before
you clicked on it, it knows that you slow down
around the area of that camera gadget. And so now
it's like, you know, they do it great in that

(08:58):
documentary they show, You're like, Okay, he's he's flowing down
for the camera gadget. Now let's send him a push
notification for you know. And it's so true. The Instagram
has really figured out their algorithm how to sell shit
to me. Because everything, everything I passed, that's an ad
I'm like, oh, yeah, they're right. I do kind of
want that. But I'm not even Instagram is the next
step I'm starting, because that's at least pictures. I'm starting

(09:19):
with taking a Twitter break just because I think it's
I just don't think all that negativity is good for
my brain personally. But that's where everybody gets their news from.
Now I know, I gotta find it. I'm trying other
sources for news. I get taken a break, you know.
I think Twitter was like, I gotta take a break
from this. It's not just the Trump talk. It's just

(09:39):
like anything anything. The whole game, you're the whole game
of Twitter is who can be more snarky and quippy
about any topic? And that's fine. I participated and I
have a lot of followers over there, and I'm sure
that I'll fucking fall off the wagon and be back
soon all you lovely people who follow me. That's what
I'm about to say. At the end of the day,

(10:00):
the day you know why you have Twitter, and you
know why you have well, I'll go back to promote
my wares. I love, I love. It is an amazing
tool for me to say, hey, guys, I have this
thing coming out and I and I do it for
the podcast, I do it for the projects I have
and that's amazing, and but I just I just find
I just kind of like that documentary has been sitting
with me, like over my shoulder, and I've been thinking
about it. I recently have a friend who's who's taking

(10:23):
in a February off from booze, and I was thinking
to myself, I've taken alcohol breaks a bunch too, But
I thought to myself, you know what, I want to
take a I'm gonna I'm gonna be inspired by my
friend and take a Twitter break anyway. I do Black
History Month, buddy, Happy Black History Month to you, my my, my,
my African American friend. Okay, do you did you watch
the show? I told you all to watch um in

(10:45):
and of itself. You didn't want you. But I know
about I know about it. I know I know about
the guy. And I'm not gonna pretend that I did
watch it, but I know about the guy through Neil
Patrick Harris, who was like, who who is a big
time Uh? He's into agians, magic, He's into you know,
he's into illusions and all that stuff. And we were
filming a signa commercial together and he was telling me

(11:07):
about this guy on Broadway who he went to see
and he had never seen any he had never seen
the tricks, like any of these tricks. Right. The thing
with magicians is like they all know each you know,
for the most part. I don't know if you've ever
seen the movie The Prestige. Yeah, I love The Prestige, right,
one of my favorite movies. Everybody, but everybody knows, you know,

(11:29):
magicians usually know the ins and out of magic. It's
rare that somebody comes along and makes the magicians and
the illusionists go, how the hell did he do that?
You ever watch that show? Do you ever watch that
show fool Us with Penn and Teller? Oh? Yeah, that
show was fun. It's a really great show. Donald. You

(11:50):
might like it. We're Penn and Teller, who obviously the
pretty darn dialed in magicians who know and anything and everything.
They have a magician on and the magician does a
trick and then they confer and if they if they
can figure out how the magician did it, then you
didn't win. And if you fool them, then you get
to open for them in Vegas. That's awesome, you know,

(12:12):
And it's really cool because they do it in a
really clever way where they don't want to obviously, if
they if they know how he did it, they don't
want to ruin it for everyone, so they'll sort of
speak in like magician jargon. They'll be like, oh, I'm
curious if you've ever learned the sailorman switch, and the
guy I'll kind of smile and they'd be like, hey,
you got it. So they won't like ruin the trick
for everyone, but they'll let the magician know that they

(12:32):
figured it out. They figured it out, you know. They
taught me my first magic trick Penn and Teller did
back when I was in junior high school and I
was doing a television special with Marlow Thomas called Free
to Be a Family and we got to meet like
a bunch of people and we'd built a space bridge
to Russia. And it was like the first time that uh,
like what we're doing right now is zoom call was done.

(12:53):
This was back when I was in junior high school. Anyway,
Free to Be a Family, it was the sequel to
Free to be You and me, Free to be you
and me right and so uh And in it, Pinteller
comes and they teach the kids of America how to
do a magic trick, and it was the how to
make the handkerchief disappear in your hand trick. Let me
tell you something, man. First of all, what amazing, what amazing,

(13:19):
What an amazing act they had, because I really thought
that dude was mute up until up until he taught
us the trick. You know what I mean? I think
you know what's funny. I once saw their off when
I was a child. My dad took me to their
first off Broadway show, and it was weird because he
I don't think he was mute, Like when he wasn't
on stage, like they would do a thing where at

(13:39):
intermission they would chat outside with people, and I think
he was out there talking. I don't know. I think
his stick is he only doesn't when he's quote in character.
Got it? But he that I mean, I used to.
They were so funny to me, and they were so different,
and I love that. You know. One of the guys
had his nails painted. One of his nails was painted.
I thought that was really cool, you know what I mean. Well, anyway,

(14:00):
I gotta tell you Donald please and listeners please check
out I can't probably the most highly recommended thing I'm
going to give you since we've been doing this podcast.
It's called In and of Itself. It's on Hulu. It
is a taped performance of a off Broadway one man show.
And he is an illusionist and there are illusions, but

(14:22):
he also is a genius storyteller and he weaves these
beautiful stories around the illusions and also without spoiling anything
the editor as Frank Oz directed it. By the way,
maybe I'll get you to watch it. Maybe I'll get
you to watch it. You know how I love Frank Oz. Well,
I maybe listen. I was trying to think of a
Star Wars connection for you, and I found one. Frank

(14:45):
directed it. Frank. I know Frank Oz was Yoda and
everything like that, but it's not that every once ran
up on Frank Oz and was like, this is angel dust,
It's PCP. You have any idea what this dust to kids?
He looked at me like yeah, and he looked at
me like I was crazy. Yeah, he looked at me
I was crazy. And I was like, uh, do you
remember that line? He's like, yeah, I remember that line.
But dude, you're blowing my mind. And I was like, good,

(15:08):
I'm glad I'm blowing your mind. That's cool. Anyway, lasting
last thing I'll say about it is that Frank was
directed it in such a cool way that they cut
between multiple performances and it's just a you know, it's
a really clever way to present the material, and it's
it's a little bit slow paced at first, so have patience.
Put your phone away. I'm telling you it is. I

(15:31):
think it's one of the most beautiful things I've seen
in a long time. I could not agree. When when
was the play? When was this? They did like over
five hundred performance of it. I'm assuming it's so genius.
I'm assuming that the pandemic must have been the thing
that closed it, because I don't know how this would
ever close. Yeah, probably I know my family saw it

(15:51):
live two years ago. I wish i'd seen it live.
It really makes you misslive theaters. All right, totally, let's
segue into the show, Donald, because some people out there
like us to uh do less of a shoot the
shit session, and we're gonna give them a special episode today.
Oh really, So we're gonna do what. We're gonna do
what the seven haters wanty, We're gonna give the seven
haters with it, all right, this is for the seven haters. Actually,

(16:12):
the seven haters probably would like none of the that
sixteen minutes of talk we just did. Okay, well, you know,
but from here on out, this is for you seven
haters out there. Yeah, here's one for you seven haters,
you know. All right, here we go. I'm not even
I'm not even gonna time you because that might slow
down the show for the seven. There we go, There
we go. Heads. I still want my beat though, I

(16:34):
still want. By the way, Daniel, that new beat you
found his fire He's got more. I made DJ. Thank you. No,
I know you're a DJ, and I know you're good
at that, but I'm giving you affirmation. I appreciate that.
Thank you. You should find a way to put I
appreciate that. On your all your beats from here on out,
I appreciate Daniel, I have a question for you, like

(16:56):
another one. I appociate that, Daniel. You know how DJ's
have or radio DJs have the pad They can hit
and it will be like sixteen phrases whatever they want,
like yeah, I could hit it and it would be
Donald like making something. Can I have one of those
for our shown? No, I want one, and I wanted
to somehow um the you know, go into your live

(17:18):
recording of the show so I can always hit it. Yes, Donald, Yes, dangerous, dangerous,
And I know Donald's gonna do you want me to
turn the key. I'm not gonna do it. I'll turn
my key about it. I'll turn my key on. Now,
I'll turn it. I'll turn that key for you, but
only for one the only one thing. I can't abuse it.
I can't abuse it, cannot abuse it. If you abuse it,

(17:39):
that ship is out the window. I thought I thought
you were gonna say that you wanted one two, and
I knew that would be a bad idea. No, no, no, no,
I mean I'd be doing beach in the middle of
the fucking o the fucking podcast. What I want to
do is I want to do what they do on
Howard Stern was they have like you know, well they
have a zillion at this point, but we would have
like ten or so catchphrase noises and sounds, and we
could hit it and I could hit it at a

(18:00):
strategic moment. And we're only doing that for the handle,
Dan Scandel, why do you look like you abhor this idea?
I love the idea. I just know that once we
get into the nitty gritty of actually getting it done,
it might not be such a popular idea anymore. I
know people be sticking me hitting the button, but I
think for a few episodes, great, Well, we'll talk about
it after the show. Well can't I just put a

(18:21):
line into my H six zoom recorder. But if you
want us to hear it, you're gonna have to have
two lines. Argue it out. This is your specialty. You
build computers. I know how to I do indeed know
how to do it. Just get take a lot of
effort on your part, Zack. I'm just letting you know
you're gonna have to have the software on your computer.
That's all I'm saying. I just think what's gonna happen
is I'm gonna do it for two episodes and then everyone,

(18:43):
including my seven haters, who are gonna fucking hate it. Well,
we're doing this for the seven. You're right, you know what, Donald,
you seven haters are getting a shorter preamble to the
to the Scrub's recap. But in exchange, I'm getting a
noise machine or you'll work it out. We'll work it out,
all right, do Cox and Jordan is still married. Turk's

(19:07):
jealous of the todd Elliot's the chief and j D's
the coach. Chief. Karma is the ultimate ass kicker. The
way it comes back around is very reminiscent of a
circle Wow brief today. All right, Karma, Well, I don't
know if the seven haters said to shorten your well,

(19:30):
they wanted it shorter, they didn't want any of the
other stuff. So yeah, you know what, you know what,
since they made us cut fun, they get a shorter
fucking summaries. Shorter fucking summaries. Those seven has those seven
you get for Hayden. Oh boy, I think I think
like one point four million people follow me on Instagram.
Those seven people ruined it for everybody, Um, all right, Donald, No,

(19:55):
some people would say, just stopped reading your comments, But
I agree with you. I'm making fun of myself and
I always give you shit when when when someone roles
you up, I'm like, so one person out of that man,
he fucked you up. How about Garrett Donovan as meth guy.
Very funny and looking very young and smelt I like

(20:16):
the haircut. I haven't seen Garrett with a hair cut
like that. And since this, I guess, do you think
he's gone bald? Garrett? No, no, I think he has.
I think he had. Oh sorry, we should tell everyone
who he is. Garrett Donovan is one of our very
funny writers on the show. He was a partner writing
partners with Neil Goldman and together they were a very

(20:36):
funny writing team. And that's him in the beginning of
this episode, playing a politician who's on meth, who's handcuffed
to the bench. He can't wave his hand to go
hey because he's but he's the one math. This episode
was funny. I laughed a lot. I laughed a couple
of times. Actually, yeah, once again, Rob Machio steals the

(20:57):
show in this episode. Once again, Robs, I mean you
see his whole package. The fat thing about a banana
hammock is it's just cock and balls wrapped in in
a little cupboard. But you're just looking at the whole thing.
Well you can't see it, but yeah, it's I mean
you can't see the outline of the trunk, but you

(21:20):
see the mass. Yeah, you see mass. You see with Yes,
you can tell that Rob is not small length. Oh yeah,
no he's I think he's Italian. No, he's Italian. But
we should we should ask I know we did ask
him on the show, but I'd like to ask him

(21:40):
what do we have? How do I freeze? Does he
have a giant cock? Does he have a giant cock?
Because I don't know what's creating such a mass. I know,
if you tuck balls and shaft into a tiny thing,
it looks good. But his looks particularly girth, massive mass massive.

(22:04):
By the way, by the way, penis aside, his body
looks amazing. Ripped. He's ripped. It only makes sense that
after he pulls his heart out. Yes, but wait, before
you get to that. So he's so, he thinks he's
he thinks he thinks there's a calendar being shot outside.
That's what you told them, right, Yeah, there's there's surveyors.
There's there's surveyors that are surveying something with their surveying equipment,

(22:28):
and and Don and Turk wants to steal the surgery
that he supposed to do, so he tells them that
they're out there shooting the Sacred Heart calendar. And he's
out there and he's and he's fully oiled up, and
he's looks slim and and really great, and he goes,
this is June. And then he turns around and sticks
his ass out and he goes, here's a little peek
at July. That's funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I forgot though

(23:01):
that Rob looked so good. Yeah, Rob is freaking you know,
when you look back at all of this, I remember
Rob being like, I can't eat that because it'll be
you know, you know, twenty minutes on a you know,
three minutes on the lips is thirty years on the hips.
He would say shit like that, you know what I mean,
Like right, and if you really he looked like he

(23:25):
worked out consistently and starved himself. But he's still big
and you know what I mean, he's still you know,
like has a big waist and still looks strong, but
he's slim and fit, like yeah, I don't know how
old he was at the time, but well done, Rob,
Yeah he looks great. He did a good job. I mean,
that's a lot of pressure to be in that tiny

(23:46):
amount of clothing on national and it is crazy when
you think about it. You know, I've said this before,
but when we moved to ABC from NBC to ABC,
ABC said we couldn't show Rob and his banana hammock anymore.
And it is pretty crazy when you look at it,
and I know it's you could say, how is it
different from a woman in a bikini, But it is
bizarre to see someone that naked on what was network TV.

(24:08):
I mean you can see that a male a mail
that naked on network TV is a little is a
little bizarre because it's not and it's not what It's
not that he's in his underwear. It's that we're not
highlighting that, we're highlighting shaft balls, all of it, Like
that's what the show, that's what the shot is highlighting.
And it's covered in a fire material. It's right, fire

(24:31):
covered balls and shafts all it's made to make. It's
made to make you not. Nobody's looking at Rob Maschio
in this and shaft and balls all rolled and all
rolled into a tight ball. That's enough to stop talking
about your willing um um. How funny speaking of of

(24:53):
of homosexuality, How funny. There were nights in the service
when it didn't seem too gre That ship was hilarious, Perry,
even if I went that way, And believe me, there
were knights in the service where it didn't seem that
was far fetched. Ted isn't my type, Yeah, and then
Ted goes, I beg to different I've seen in it.

(25:14):
There were knights in the service where it didn't seem
all that far fetched. So the so Jordan and Cox
are still married because of a Ted made of paperwork error. Right,
and he's still married to his ex wife who's married,
who is sleeping with his brother, right because his brother
has a hairpiece. Right, and but kels Kelso goes Mazzel

(25:40):
tubs all around. Ken Winningham directed this. Did we say that? No?
Ken Winningham directed this, and we like Ken Winningham a lot.
He's a very talented director. And it was written by
Gabrielle Allen. Let's talk about You've been graveled. Donald because
this is the introduction. There's a few things here that
are scrubs runners that are introduced here. One of them

(26:04):
is the You've Been Graveled game? Does this come back?
I forgot. I don't know. I don't know that it
comes back, but I will say this, this was this
was one of those things where Turk and JD are
really pushing hard for this game to work. Yeah, and
if it does come back, I don't know if the
two of them can be the ones that graveled the
next person like it would have to be somebody like Molly.

(26:26):
I think maybe Molly gravels somebody. I think it does
come back. We asked Trevor Ricky. We haven't asked him
anything in a while, and he's got the signed Funco pops.
Let's get it, okay, Trevor. In this episode, we learned
that JD and Turk are trying to get the game
gravel You've Been Graveled to catch on. Does this come
back in future episodes? I don't remember if this is

(26:47):
the only episode where people are graveled. Happy Season four, Donald, Zach,
Joel and Daniel, j D and Turk have a lot
of fun games. My personal favorite is coming up in
a few episodes in My Roommates, but gravel is only
mentioned in this episode My New Game. But if you're
looking for more gravel themed hijinks, there's a similar prank
in My Finale where Doctor Kelso and Donnie replaced Ted's

(27:09):
coffee with dirt. Thanks Trevor. That and then okay, so
that ship was hilarious. When Turk finally realizes that JD
was the one that graveled him, and he says to JD,
hey man, no, Turk says, I mean, JD says the Turk, Well,

(27:32):
what about putty pants? No, Plato pants? Yeah, what about
Plato pants? What the fuck is that game? And then
I know? And then Turk says, well plato pants became
all about the money? Yeah? And then hell about backstories?
I don't know, there's no backstory. It was just something
that we made up. Right. Then there's two moments. There's
two moments in this episode that are like I have

(27:52):
no like so random and then not explained. This is
one of them. We don't know anything about what Plato
pants is or why it became all about the money,
and we'd have no idea what that game is, And
the other at the end of the episode when in
the baseball we're at the baseball field. Why am I
tackled for no reason? And no reason whatsoever whatsoever? And

(28:12):
the guy doesn't even say sorry, and you don't address it.
It just happens. And the guy throws the baseball and
he almost hits me in the face with the baseball,
and I don't move. It's like, wait, this is a
weird And then ted you owe me money, which I
remember you wrote you that, I remember that, I remember
that that It's funny. I can't believe you remember that.
I was so proud of that. That was such a
great joke because it one it closes the show, but

(28:34):
it was such a I remember thinking, I remember thinking
that is that reminds me of like my cousin when
he gets drunk and fucking that is exactly what he
would say, some dumb shit like that, you owe me money,
right before he passed out. And you know what it
really reminds me of, though, what it reminds me of

(28:55):
a certain night that you and I went out. No,
I didn't go out. You were at home. Did we
go out that night? I've got more money than you.
I've got more money than you. I've got more money
than all of you, and then passed out right on
his face. Yeah, Donald, and I knew someone who got
so hammered. And we were all back at my house

(29:17):
hanging out, and he was so embarrassingly drunk that he
was like, we got more money than you, and I
have got money than you. And he's like pointing at us,
and then like one Mississippi, two, Mississippi, three, Misissippi, collapsed,
passes out. That's how he went out. That's how he
went out. He passes out with his pass Not only

(29:39):
does he pass out, he passes out with his ass
up in the air. And then and then Josh goes.
I wonder what he's dreaming about, and Zach goes, probably
all of his money. Oh it's so awkward, but um,
but yeah, I don't know why. For me, it was
so fun on occasion when I would come up with
a line on set or one of those guys like

(30:01):
Sam and just like, oh my god, this would be
a funny thing for Ted to say before he passed out,
and then Sam does it and does it's so funny.
I just remember you and I were belly laughing. It
was laughing so hard. I owe me money. I remember
thinking that was such a genius joke too, Like, wow,
Zach fucking wrote, that's a great that's the first time

(30:23):
season four. It's the first time he thought I wrote
a funny joke. No, well, everything else was kind of
like a button. This is like, this was a joke
that went on from him pouring the uh the alcohol
in the thing, and now he's drunk. He's drunk. He's drunk.
He drank the booze so fast because literally it's like
a minute after he said something like I go thirsty ted,

(30:47):
he goes, it makes the tears taste less bitter, right,
and then he's drunk quick. Really not much of a drinker,
but he really pounds down in that fucking vodka. Hey, um,
I laughed a lot at when I'm walking on the street.
This is the episode if you haven't watched it, where

(31:08):
Jad's obsessed with being co chief and he wants to
be the real, just regular chief and he's had these
he has his business cards and he goes, I'm trying
not to make it about me, you know, unless there's
someone I could doink As he's handing this is the
first time I think that we hear the scooter referred

(31:29):
to as Sasha. No, no, just is it? Yeah? I
think so because this is report to Sasha. I guess
that's in your show, right, um? I forgot whereas gets.
By the way, my episode's coming up, the one that
I directed that you all know is the best episode
in the Scrub's history. It's coming up very soon. I

(31:52):
just looked at the Majigi and it says four oh eight.
I always thought, for some reason it was fifth season,
but it's not. It's the episode of season four. Well,
so it has to be our little, our little, our
little spreadsheet that Joel made, says Zach Braft, director, are
you a good surgeon? By the way, I don't think.

(32:12):
I don't know that Turk is a good surgeon? I
wrote down today, I wrote down in this episode, is
Turk a good surgeon? I don't know. That doesn't seem
like you're great? And no, I think he's a good Okay,
I don't know that he's a good surgeon. I'll say
that I do know that Todd's a better surgeon. Todd
is probably the best surgeon in the He is the
best surgeon in the hospital. And Turk is very very

(32:35):
very jealous of it, right, But I mean you literally
sew your gown to the patient in this episode. It's
happened before. I'm sure. I'm sure it's happened before. The people.
You know, nobody's perfect. I heard of a story of
some some surgeon had they were cutting some tube and

(32:58):
they they had like the covering down on the person's body,
and they were cutting the tube on the cloth or
whatever it is that covers the person's body, and when
they were cleaning up, they saw that the knife had
gone through to the person's leg. That sounds horrible, man.
I mean, you know, I'm sure she like that happens
all the time. And then you know they're like, um, yeah, hey,

(33:21):
for free, we uh took a little benign tumor out
of your leg. All good god? Oh they lied. No,
I don't know that that's the end of the story.
I'm saying. I wonder if that's what people do. They're like, hey,
we saw something on your leg that was a little sketchy,
so don't worry. For free, we took it out, didn't
We have a moral episode one of those episodes where

(33:41):
Turk made a mistake and then went and told the yeah,
we just passed that. Yeah, you were like yeah, And
when we were recording that, I was like, I don't
know if they just go and admit that they fucked
up like that? Well, what do I know? Is the
caller here, Joel, let's invite the person in here. You
want to go to break first? Oh? Sorry, We're gonna

(34:03):
go to break everybody and we come back. We've got
a very exciting caller. Um, Joel, do we have any
presidents to give away? Uh? He could be our February
giveaway if you like. Yeah, I have so much leftover
merch from my different projects. I was thinking we could
also give away my old merchu. I think that work

(34:25):
I have, I wish I have, wish I was here
records love that? Oh god, I think this guy. Yeah,
I got Vinyl, Uh, wish I was here and Garden
States soundtracks. You should send that to Daniel he'd like that,
And to Joel Daniel, I didn't know a like. Look,

(34:46):
I mean, you know, we can save this for later.
But I've purposely not tried to fan boy as much
as possible. But surely you two know I literally grew
up watching Scrubs. Garden State is one of my favorite
and my family's favorite movies. The soundtrack is like a
soundtrack of our It is one of our family's favorite
soundtracks of all time. We don't need to go into
this right now, but like we can, we can. Why

(35:08):
are you sicking your head? Is all I'm hearing. All
I hear right now is dear Slim, I wrote you,
but you still in calling. I love. I sell my
painter and my home phone at the bottom. I sent
two letters back in autumn. You must not have got him.
There probably was a problem at the post office or something.
Sometimes sometimes too sloppy when my job. All right, but

(35:30):
anyway from my chest on that. Now we'll be right
back with with my my super fan and Joel and Daniel,
right back and we're bad, Daniel, Yes, this is gonna

(35:50):
be yours, Oh my god. And it's eighty graham n
dear mister, I'm too good to call her. All right,
my fans, this will be the last time that I
ever one hundred and eighty Grahams. That's good for record,
that record right a vinyl right THC. I'm so touched,

(36:12):
Thank you man, thank you. And it's been six months
and still no word. I don't deserve it. Inside is
a personal letter for me, Daniel. Oh there it is,
there it is. Oh God, he knows you, he knows
He wrote the last two letters perfect between. I had

(36:32):
this interesting story about this. Um, this crane were standing
on the flower was actually graffiti that was there way
and this didn't say New Jersey. It said um some
other some crane branding. But they changed it to New Jersey. Nice.
That's gorgeous. Thank you so much for how many? How many?
How many black people win the soundtrack? Um? Not many.

(36:58):
There doesn't appear to be any African Americans on the soundtrack.
You didn't even have met the man on the soundtrack? Man,
my god, at what point in the movie. I'm just
I'm just put this is. This is how I got
out of having to read the script. I just want
all right, Daniel, and we'll give that to you and
maybe we'll give it to us. That's really awesome, dude,

(37:20):
that's we're letting him in. Anthony, Anthony Balistrari. I believe
what's up? Anthony? Welcome thunderous applause Daniel for Anthony, Alice
and heavy. All right, there you go, you got it,
you got it. I don't but have you ever done
Oprah voice with an Italian last name? Donald Italian? So

(37:47):
welcome to the program sir, How are you? I'm great,
I'm great. How are you? Where are you? Calling in
from a arbor, Michigan? Well, well, and arbor in the house.
It's cold there. I'm gonna hold up, I'm gonna hold
up my hand. Where are you here? Zack? You got
it right? But it's right, okay. This is how they
tell you in Michigan. You hold up your hand and
he's right here. You're right. Every Michigan or I've met

(38:08):
has done that same thing. It's I'm sorry, you know what.
I just did that, the same thing. You know. Whenever
I tell me I'm from Jersey, they say what exit?
And I just hate that, And I just did it
to you. I did the hand thing from Michigan. I'm
sorry now, folks from Jersey and they tell me there's
a central Jersey that people not from Jersey don't know about.
Jersey's huge and people don't know much about it. You

(38:30):
know what I hate about people's shit about Jersey. Excuse
my my digression, but you know, people give This was
kind of one of the points of Garden State was like,
I wanted to show how beautiful it was. People. It's
the Garden State. I mean, that's why they call it.
People fly into Newark. It's one of the biggest international
airports in the world. Newark is our industrial area where
you know, it's a city, but obviously the airport is

(38:51):
the industrial park. So you land and people are like,
this is Jersey. Ah, Jersey's beautiful. I bet, I bet
end of Tyrade, end of Tyree. You know, I like
the industrial part of Jersey. I'm gonna be honest with you. Yeah,
you spent some time there. I spent quite a bit
of time there, like almost eight nine months there. And uh,

(39:15):
I love Jersey and shout out to shout out to
Jersey and shout out to the whole tri state area.
How about Yeah, well, I think we shoun just give Jersey,
shout out Michigan. Shout out Michigan, especially since we're giving
out these gifts from here. But it's nice. Um, all right, Anthony,
do you have a question for us? Well, first, for

(39:36):
a specific reason. All right, Anthony Wright in for yours,
tell us about your specific reason. It's sorry, Joel, I did, Yeah,
you know, Joel, and I were talking beforehand, I thought
I might just read out my email. Um, you'll be
the first call you've ever had read an email, but
I'm going to approve it. Turn your key, sir, turn.

(39:58):
So I said, Hey, Joel, you know I've got I
just got done listening to episode four or one my
Old Friend's New Friend with Heather Graham that was at
Leased today. Your caller, the pharmacist tech, mentioned something about
the Fiser vaccine, which was not true, so I wanted
to offer some clarification for you Donald and the rest
of the fans. Though she was correct in saying that

(40:19):
historically many vaccines are prepared using embryonated chicken eggs. These
new mRNA vaccines produced by Fiser and Maderna are not
made that way. So I then provided Joel and the
email a couple of different excerpts from from documents saying
that these mRNA vaccines are made in a self free way,

(40:39):
so they're not So you needn't you needn't worry. You
want us to broadcast to all over the world, which
we can do for you now, thank you for this
public service that you needn't worry if you have an
egg allergy about these vaccines. Yeah, I would say no,
there's there's basically no egg. There's no egg in it
at all. So okay, yes, I call on Donald go,

(40:59):
I have I have a question now. Okay, So now
do you know about vaccine or is this just something
that you know that this vaccine doesn't have? Yeah, you know,
I'm about chemist. I know quite a few things about
a lot of stuff. I know stuff about vaccines. I'm
I'm not an expert, but I can tell you maybe
some stuff. Yeah, here's my question. Right, hear that Johnson

(41:19):
and Johnson's vaccine is coming out and it's DNA based.
What is the difference between DNA based and what does
that mean and the difference between what Fiser and Maderna is. Sure. Yeah,
you know I can speak more on the MR and
A vaccines because you know, in the last twenty four
hours I've tried to read out quite a bit more

(41:40):
on them. But the Johnson and Johnson vaccine is is
something different. It's not this new technology, however, it is
something that is it's not an old old technology as well.
They're using an aa V vector, so this is another virus. However,
it doesn't cause any disease in humans, and so they're
just using that same system too, in some viral DNA

(42:02):
into sales in order to create that immunological response. And
the Johnson Johnson one is coming out, right, it's it's happening. Yeah.
I think you know that they're probably applying for their
EUA somewhat soon. So I think their data is coming
out and then it looks pretty good. The last time
I checked, it wasn't as effective as these mr Anda ones,
but still definitely useful, especially because it's not stored in

(42:23):
the same way it can be stored at. Oh you
don't need the freezing cold you don't need the freezing
cold freezer special freezer thing. Yeah, that's right. What's your opinion, Anthony,
on whether the government should be giving out all the
second doses as as they come in or holding them back,
because that seems to be a point of contention these days. Yeah.

(42:45):
So I think we should really stick with what that
first authorization much said, which was that we should have
two doses separated by this amount of time, because that's
where all that data was showing. You know, they have
some data showing, you know, how effective it is with
just one dose, but that you know, they were only
tracking a certain amount of people like that, and that
was because you know, those people didn't show up for

(43:06):
their second dose or whatever, So that that's a much
smaller amount of people. We have much more data showing that, yes,
two doses can be this effective. And I think, I know,
but the trick is that, like you've got to the
logistics of planning to withhold these doses even though there's
a line around the corner, because everyone needs their second dose.
We got we gotta count on the fact if we

(43:28):
give these out that the second doses for the people
that already got their first dose will be back in time.
You know. That's that's a lot of trust in the
in the system. You're right, it's a crazy thing. It's
a crazy thing that we're even suggesting that we can do.
You know that the fact that we can sort of say, oh,
we're going to try and make all these things and
send them out to all these people, that's that's a

(43:48):
logistical nightmare. I can't even think about, you know, what
it would take to do something like this. Well, they
haven't quite dumb. They haven't figured I'm about to say,
they haven't figured it out. The rollout. I'm gonna be
honest with you, in my opinion, slows. I think it's
been very slow, as I think it's been especially slow
in African American communities and in Latino American communities. And

(44:09):
you know what I mean, Like if you look at
the data, it shows that white Americans are getting vaccine
a lot more than minorities in America, and that's that's
that's crazy to me. But as well, I understand that Anthony,
there wasn't really a federal plan, I mean, the previous
administration and just said to the states, like figure it out,

(44:31):
right now they have to turn and build a federal infrastructure.
I know that they are. I know that they asked
for military help manpower to help distribute vaccines. Don't you
think that will make it a little bit more organize
those zac Like i've in some ways, this is one
of the first time where it's like I kind of
wouldn't mind having you know, military medical personnel. No, I'm

(44:54):
I'm all for it. Do something, do something. We're we're
this incredibly rich country. We and like more money times
one hundred than anybody else does in the military. Use
them for something that's actually not going to put men
and women's life in danger, use them in any way, Well,
their life is going to still be in danger. It's

(45:15):
COVID man, So they're still risking catching COVID and dying
from cokay, And of course I'm just saying they're not
We're not sending them off to a foreign waders, saying
let's help heal the help them unbuild the country. Understood.
You know, it's important to note that that progress is
being made. You know, I'm from San Diego and I
lived there all my life before I turned eighteen, and

(45:35):
so I try to keep my my ear down at
what's happening down there. And they're setting up these huge
vaccine deployment things. There's one in Pecco, the place where
the Padres play. There's there's more being made all the time.
They want to do five thousand gosts a day. And
although that's not fast enough, it's something right, it's getting out. No,
didn't they set something up like that here at Dodger Stadium. No,

(45:57):
there's one in rivers Side. Riverside has the you don't
have All you have to do is make an appointment
and live in the Riverside area. It's a mass vaccination
uh spot in California, in Riverside, Caloria. You still got
to be over sixty five. No, it's anybody who wants
to get vaccinated that lives in the city of Riverside,

(46:20):
in the County of Riverside. Really, yeahses, I thought I
thought we had made a national rule that So what's happening.
So what's happening is that doses are being sent to
the state from now. Remember this is what I'm reading
here and not reading. This is what I'm seeing on
the news, So please do It's on the news, and

(46:40):
I'm quoting the news, So please don't jump on me
if you feel like I've misquoted somebody. Wow, we have
Anthony here to clarify any fuck up you make. No,
don't do that to him. That's not it's not right.
It's not right. Nobody deserves that prost. We should have
real GD back on because mister dials. So. But check
this out. So check this out. This is what's happening

(47:01):
across America with this rollout. Some places are set up
to deliver vaccine by appointment to the elderly. What happens
is this happened in La in Los Angeles County at
they were supposed to go till let's say it was
from eight o'clock in the morning to eight o'clock in
the night. They were doing their due diligence and giving

(47:25):
the vaccine to everyone that had the appointment, and at
seven o'clock somebody shows up with five hundred more vaccine
of containers of vaccine, and it's like, here, we've got
more vaccine. Now they don't have an appointment. These things
are gonna run out, They're gonna they're gonna expire. Yeah,

(47:49):
what do you do? This guy runs out into the
street and starts giving vaccine to people walking down the street.
If they're giving out vaccine and they're not carrying out
how it's being or not transported, but how it's being
taken care of, how it's being administered, If they're not
putting the infrastructure into place, what do you expect people
to do. So the City of Riverside, it seems like

(48:10):
it's like, look, if we have this vaccine, let's give
it away. Let's not throw it out. I've heard that.
I've heard anecdotally some stories about LA where there's distribution centers,
Like you're saying that run out of Senior citizen appointments
or run out of you know, all the people that
are eligible in whatever this is called one? Are we
in one? B? Is that what we're in now? I

(48:31):
don't know. I think it's called like whatever this is
like it's like supermarket workers, frontline workers, healthcare workers, and
everyone over sixty five, and so they don't have anyone
like you're saying, and so people are like lining up
like it's like a sneaker store or or supreme and
and waiting to be like, you know, you're gonna throw
them away? Can I get one of those? And so

(48:52):
that's become like a like a thing people are doing.
They're like waiting, and some days they don't get it,
some days they do. There are a bunch of is
there are a bunch of ways that you can get
vaccine and not be you know, a senior or there
are a bunch of ways I've I've you can volunteer
from what I understand, at the sites and watch, you know,

(49:16):
observe people administering. That feels like that feels like trying
to do something to get it feels I don't know,
a bit sketchy to me, Like you're like you're cutting
whereas whereas like we're in a line because they're gonna
go bad and no one's here. Feels like you're not cutting.
Do you know what I mean? I don't think I don't.

(49:36):
That's the thing though, the way it's being rolled out
right now, I don't know that. It feels like even
the government seems to be like survival of the fittest
because they're not. They don't give a crap on who's
or it feels like that. That's what it feels like
when you watch the news and you're given the information
from the news, That's what it feels like. It feels

(49:57):
like we aren't the country isn't doing enough to protect
people from COVID. That's what it feels like. That's the
narrative that the important thing is that these vaccines were
made in order to protect people from the risk of
it getting this disease, and everyone that is at a risk,
which are is mostly older people, but people that have

(50:19):
pre existing conditions, they should be able to get it
as quickly as possible. Well, we know somebody who didn't
have a pre pre existing condition and he passed away
from uh, from COVID, And you know what I mean,
Like and he was forty years old and healthy and
years and trainer. And so it's like, if it's available

(50:41):
and other people don't want it, to give it to
the people who do It's it's just that simple, you know.
Um yeah, yeah, all right, let's some segue because we've
got a long time on this and we're trying to
we're trying to do a show for the haters. So
we got we're doing a show for the haters. And
I feel like right now we're talking to all the
lovers out there, you know, but we worry about it.

(51:07):
Don't worry about it. The haters want us to speak
things up and talk about things that the haters want,
the real true has, The real true haters just want
Donald and I to solely talk about Scrubs and spend
ninety minutes dissecting the episode. Now, Donal and I wouldn't
do this show if that were the rules, because we
would find it quite boring. What we enjoy is the

(51:29):
pattern and laughing like we do as friends, as Turk
and j D did on Scrubs. Because m seven of
my Instagram commentars got in my head, we're giving them one.
We're trying to we're making a show for the haters.
They're gonna get one, get one episode out of nine seasons.
What's that? This actually comes right into the question that

(51:50):
I had Antony. They would play Anthony perfect, Anthony would
be great? Does that even play ante? Anthony would be great?
I hear I hear Antoine sometimes and my family calls
me aunts an tz. Anthony's one of those names where
you can pick from a myriad of nicknames, like William. Oh,
but not Tony though A thousand percent not Tony. All right,

(52:12):
thank you all terrible? What about ants? Answer is great?
That's awesome. Go ahead, man, ask what's your question? So
you know, I wanted it to be somewhat thought provoking,
so I tried to Joel. Joel only gave me like
twenty hours to come up with a question, not even
less than I probably twell, go ahead anyway. This question

(52:35):
is for all you guys, um and it came from
a recent argument, loving but somewhat heated argument between me
and my best friend, who, of course I have to
shout out. His name's Matthew Sorrow. He is the JD,
the JD to my turken. Yeah, I love that, your brother,
I love Yeah. We took a we we dressed up

(52:55):
as Halloween and I was I was Turkey, he was.
But you didn't do black face. I didn't not do blackface. Okay,
the picture graduate. Every every year Donald has to warn
people do a public service announcement. You're welcome to play Turk.
Please don't face yourself. All right, go ahead. Uh So
the question is is about modern criticism? Um So, it

(53:16):
seems like increasingly these days, audiences feel like they have
a sense of ownership over the content that they love.
So audiences will, you know, they'll fall in love with
a movie or a show or a video game or whatever,
and and then there's some time and the next episode
or the next movie or the next season comes out,

(53:38):
and if the plot points or the character arcs or
something doesn't fall out the way that that audience member
particularly wanted it to, then they now feel like that
content is trash. You know, it's not what they wanted it.
It was bad, it was unpoorly. You know. There's lots
of examples of this, right, like, uh, you know the
Last of Us Part two, which was that you were

(54:00):
going to say that the last I was like, I
wonder if this is based on the Last of Us
Part two. It's not just based on that. Uh, you know,
the Rise of Skywalker is a movie example, the last
hold on I think, I think, I know, interms of television,
the last season of Game of Thrones, right, it just

(54:20):
really really really hit it. So to me, you know
where I fall on this is that, uh, it takes
away some of the agency that the creator has to
create their artwork in the way that they want. So
when people take this perspective that I would rather as
something else have happened, So therefore you made the wrong decision.
I think that's that that's somehow SIT's wrong with me. However, Alternatively,

(54:41):
other people, you know, they feel like audiences should be
catered to because that's what this is for. This is
for their entertainment. And so I wanted the opinion of
you guys, as artists and creators, which you all are, um,
just to think, maybe how do you feel do you
see this trend happening? What do you feel about this
this type of problem? So so I am I love

(55:03):
that this is the type of conversation that I like
to have, and I wish a lot of people had
conversations like this because I think maybe a lot of
the things that happen, a lot of the bullying that happens,
a lot of the I don't want to say hatred,
but that's what it is that comes from people's emotions
and investing and when they invest in movies and stuff
like that. If it's talked about, we can we can

(55:26):
solve all of these problems. So I am one who
believes that the audience does have some ownership. And I
feel like if you create something and you put it
out there, you're doing it so that the audience can
feel like they do have a bit of ownership in it.
And I think that's what makes And I'm going to
bring this up because it's one of my favorite things

(55:47):
in the world with Star Wars. I love that Lucasfilm
and them give you ownership, like give a lot of
the fans ownership in from fan film to theory to whatever.
I love that. Now where it gets a little dicey, though,
is when things don't go your way as a as

(56:11):
a self proclaimed owner of whatever it is. Um, I'm
of the I'm of the feeling that if it's if
it's good, it doesn't matter. So uh where So, Like
I have issues with the last Jedi. I still think

(56:34):
it's a good movie. I just don't think it fits
in the Star Wars, the Star Wars Skywalker Saga. Do
I hate the Wars? I can't wait. We don't have
time here, but one day, do I do? I hate
the Last Jedi? No, I love the Last Jedi. I

(56:56):
just don't think it fits. And I think because of that,
the Rise of Skywalker suffered. That's me personally. I'm allowed
to think that. I'm allowed to have that opinion. It's
my opinion, that's all it is. But you're probably not
the guy who's on a board or on Twitter trashing.

(57:17):
It's so hard that well, it goes a little too far.
Then people become bullies and stuff like that. And that
happens and and and that's where it goes too far.
You know. What happened to some of the actors from
Star Wars is horrible and should have never happened. That
girl should have never Kelly Marie Trand was bullied. Uh,

(57:40):
i'med best, you know what I mean? You know, either
Daisy Ridley like she's no longer on social media because
of it. Yeah, um, and it's because and I think
it's because uh, you know, fans want to be heard,
and when people conflict, when people fight back, when there's pushback,

(58:05):
then it becomes a I don't know, man, everyone, I
don't know, man, I don't know how to I don't know.
This is a great thought provoking question. I feel like
ownership in something. I think ownership in something is is
that's how you know you have a hit. When people
are like I feel like I'm a part of this.
You know you've struck a nerve, you know what I mean.

(58:27):
I know it's a bit self destructive. It can be
self destructive. You can destroy the things you like. Like
I worry for Bill. I'm sure, I'm sure Ted Lasso
season two is gonna be amazing, right, But there's so
much hype and pressure for him to deliver, for him
and Jason to deliver something as good or better that

(58:50):
you just you just can't help it. Go. Oh God,
season two. I hope that they don't get and I
can just picture like people being like no through and
fighting sucks, and it's well, you know, it's a high
class problem. You've created something that are so passionate about.
But but it also is like it's it's very hard
to once people like something so much to still create

(59:14):
in that space without offending some portion of the audience,
and you have to care about that. You need to
worry your offending. I just jump in here real quick.
The point is the fans don't know what they want,
and it's a problem because sometimes fans think that they
have ownership to the extent that they know how a
story should unfold, instead of sitting back and going, this

(59:37):
is how I'd like the story too unfold. This is
why I'm such a promoter of fan fiction and fan fiction.
Anything you want to happen can happen, and you can
grove that in that own space, but you you can't
possibly I a writer and a critic, don't know what
I want from a show like I have ideas, I
have thoughts about it, but what I want is to
be surprised, and I cannot manufacture that surprise by guessing

(59:58):
what's going to happen at the end. And you want
a creator, especially if we're going to talk about franchises
or big tent pole things that like have this longevity
and an established tone and feel like we live in
these worlds. Sometimes hours were rewatching these movies. We know
every detail and so we are invested in them as
if they are. You know, for some of us, it's

(01:00:20):
like sports, like we know the players, we understand the
rules of the world and how it works, and so
we get very enveloped in like if it doesn't follow
those rules, it's hard to understand. What I think is
happening right now for fans is there's a new We've
reached a new platitude of a fandom. Right before, if
you liked a movie, you liked a movie, yeah the poster,
maybe you saw it when it came to an old

(01:00:41):
theater and was rerunning. That was it. Now if you
like a movie or a TV show or a comic
or a franchise, there's like all this history involved in
this very long legacy, and there are now new people
allowed to tell those stories, right. And when you have
new people coming in to tell these stories, what they're
looking for is something that they got out of the
original fandom that wasn't at the surface. Right, So what

(01:01:04):
I love about Batman isn't necessarily Batman. He's like a
rich white guy going out to kick ass. I like
all his sidekicks who created a family for him and like,
and that becomes his like main thing that he has
to focus on is his family not going to kill
the bad guys. Now, that's different than what Batman was
intended for, but it's no. It doesn't mean any less
of a fan. Makes me a different kind of fan.
It makes me a fan who has a problem enjoying

(01:01:26):
a modern Batman movie. Right. That doesn't mean I don't
like it. It just means it's different, and we as
fans have to accept that there are two different roads
now and we have to appreciate those two roads. That
was my question. If you take that away, is it's
still a good Batman movie in your eyes? If I
take yeah, because it's still Batman. It's still the core
Batman that people can enjoy. I don't need to like
it to know that there's a fan base for it

(01:01:47):
and they freaking love it and they get a lot
of it. If you like Batman holding a gun power
to human, that's all you like. You can enjoy that.
There's no problem with that. I hate it. I hate
it so much. I don't think Batman ever would touch
a gun. It's weird to me. But there's other content
for me to enjoy and I don't have to tear
down a filmmaker or his vision in the same way
I don't like them or drive him off Twitter, exactly, exactly.

(01:02:11):
We have to allow space for all of our like
in the way that comic books has done really well
over the years, which is to say, if you don't
like a creator's vision, that's fine, don't buy it. It's different, right,
It's different, and it doesn't make it wrong or bad.
It's just different, and we can enjoy the different iterations
of the characters. Keepin. Years ago, no one had all
this ability to scream to the heavens everything. Yeah. I mean,

(01:02:35):
this whole everyone can opine thing has created uh, you know,
it has created this issue. Well, I mean it's it's
one of it's one of the most interesting and one
of my I don't I don't hate it. I love
the fact that there's all this dialogue. I do hate

(01:02:58):
the bullying, but I love the fact that there's all
of this dialogue about you know, a project that seemed
to be one of my favorite things, that seemed to
be uh you know, the argument was it's the same
thing over and over again, and then when it was
given something different, it shifted people. You know, it made
people go the wrong way. It made a lot of
people go a different way. It made a lot of people,

(01:03:20):
you know, it switched everybody up. I really seven to
eight you mean yeah? I well, yeah, seven to eight,
two nine, all of it, you know what I mean?
It isn't Star Wars a good example of U. Ryan
Johnson came out and made a film that was challenging everyone.
Everyone screamed at it, so then they overcorrected and went
back to like just a loyal fans. That's a perfect

(01:03:42):
example of it. And I think, so here's the thing.
It wasn't what a lot of fans wanted. That being said,
it was still made and there's a great story that
could have happened afterwards. But there was such an uprising
with the fans and such an argument with the fans
that uh that that that you know, it's split, it's

(01:04:05):
split Star Wars in half. But it was like it's
almost like a civil war that's going on or that
was going on, and uh that they tried to correct it,
and I think maybe that was I think maybe that
was a bad movie. I still love Star Wars. I
still I still watched The Rise of Skywalker. I still
watched The Last Jedi I still you know, I'm Me

(01:04:27):
and Joel talk about it all the time. Fans might
not know exactly what they want. They might think they
know what they Yeah, I agree with Joel. They might not.
They might think they know what they want, but that's
not necessarily going to be satisfying to them. It's comfort food.
It's comforting to just have something that's familiar. It's like

(01:04:48):
anything you tried that's different. You tighten up and you go, oh,
this is different, this isn't what I know, and and
I want the comfort. I want the safe thing. And
it also depends on how you think of movies and
stuff like that. You have to be invested. That's the
only way you can get to this level of fandom. Um,
all right, well that was a very thought provoking question. Um, look,

(01:05:10):
I think we need to we need to kind of
end it because we're doing a short show today for
for the hater. You don't want to try and fix
his life? Do you have a fix your life problem?
Of course, I was gonna be at stought revoked start
though I can't. I can't even I can't even think
right now, not even once. One of my buttons on
the on the new thing we're getting is gonna be weed,

(01:05:30):
not even once. I hate you, all right, You're Sammy Sam.
I hate you all right, A quick fix your life,
so go ahead, all right. So you know, I'm a
young or relatively young, single guy, and I work a lot,
and um, you know, I'm in graduate school. I I

(01:05:53):
lived in Silicon Valley before I moved out here to Michigan.
And there's this culture of working all the time, work
with work, and I'm in this PhD program at this
big R one university like University of Michigan, and it's
just the same, you know, your work, work, work, And
I see myself kind of barreling down this career path
of you know, having all this work in my life

(01:06:14):
where I'm sort of pushing away the other things. So
I can see how and this would be my mom's opinion,
which she's made vocal before many times, that I don't
give myself enough time to dedicate to like the non
work life portions of my life, you know, like the
romantic life or hobbies or other work life balance sorts
of things. So I know that you guys have both
navigated these careers where you know there's seasons I'm sure

(01:06:35):
where You've got these times where you're not doing much,
but then there are seasons where you're working all the time.
In those seasons, how do you still find that balance?
You know, how do you still make time for rancial
relationships or other things? You have to choose it because
this is all you got. I mean, I always come
at it from the point of view I don't believe
in an afterlife, So this is all I got. Okay,

(01:06:57):
I'm forty five years old. If I if I'm lucky,
let's say I make it to night, let's call it ninety.
So I got forty five solid years. That's and then
that's it. Then they shovel me in the ground. What
are you going to do with that time? Of course,
pursue your dreams and your goals like you are, But
do you want your one experience on earth not to

(01:07:18):
have love, not to have travel, not to have adventure? Um,
you're it's sound, you're very smart. Obviously you're going to
achieve all your your career goals. I don't think anyone
listening could have any doubts about that. But the question
you have to ask yourself is what else do you
want your life to be about? And it's about dedicating
time to that, making it a make, committing choosing to

(01:07:39):
making time for it. Joy. Sure, Donald, that's tough. Um,
Zach and I got into an argument over stuff. We
get into arguments over things like no, it's it's it's
it's quite all right. Uh. You know, uh, work is

(01:08:02):
very very important, and I get that. I'm one of
the people who hates the fact that work is so
important in making it so that I can have the
things I want. But I get I get the fact
I get work hard and you achieve things. But I

(01:08:24):
hate that. Okay, here's the thing. Here's the thing. I
hate that I'm defined by how hard I work. I
think that is. I think that is in a lot
of ways, bullshit I think I should be. I don't
think I should be defined by anyone. I feel like,
if you are going to judge me, judge me by

(01:08:45):
how I'm hard. I love my family, Judge me by
how hard I here's my daughter. Right comes in listeners.
Right as he said that, Wilder came in for a hug.
We're almost done. Okay, guys, my kid is going to
college today. He is Oh my god, he is leaving.

(01:09:08):
He is leaving the Homestead to go way to college.
That's exciting. Somewhere in California. Somewhere in California he can't
leave ulations. That's exciting. Yeah, he's going to art school
and he's you're getting your first nest moment. Yeah, it's
really it's pretty crazy. Only eleven more took a while
with all them kids. Yeah, well, Anthony, I don't know

(01:09:30):
you like that. First of all, you're getting a little
too comfortable taking shots at the host started. So that's
too much ownership, too much ownership right there. Anthony sounds
like as like Donaldson have a problem with that. That Anthony.
I love it. I love Anthony's putting his feet up

(01:09:51):
on the desk and ship. I love that. As he
should or as he should Listen, we gotta go, Anthony,
because we're trying to to to appea our haters and
do a shorter shot. You're a lovely You're a lovely man. Thanks, guys,
you're a very thought provoking guest. Don't feel bad if
some of the Star Wars stuff is cut out, because

(01:10:11):
I don't want them Lucasfilm to be mad at me.
Oh my god, oh he said, you honor me, Daniel.
He is a super fan. By the way, that's gonna
be a By the way, you saying you honor me
is gonna be another button on my path. Like you
honor me, you wannor me, Daniel, I need one also
that has a little record thing so I can be
honor me, honor me? How much you want your dad's

(01:10:33):
how much you want your I just want to fall
on DJ rig here all right, Uh, Anthony, good luck
in your pursuits. Oh, thank you, guys. We have no doubt.
I wanted to plug a couple of things, if you can. Unway,
I got a professional Twitter, as one does these days.
So if you guys wanted to shout that out, So
that's at a ballast underscore kem bio so a b

(01:10:55):
a l I s t underscore kem bioca. Especially if
you're a young lady looking for a PhD candidate. I
wouldn't disagree with you might and might live near Michigan.
I just followed all you guys this morning on Twitter
and followed Donald on Instagram as well. Thank you very much,
seven but only nobody that's only between you and me.

(01:11:18):
Thank you. Also, you know, I wanted to say that
scientific communication is really tough. You know, the biggest story
in the world right now is a science story, and
there's people out there that are really trying to do
that and disseminate information in a good way. And it's
really hard, but there are people out there that do it.
So if I could point everybody to this Weekend Virology,
which is a podcast as well as a YouTube channel

(01:11:43):
which is hosted by a virology professor at Columbia, and
it's a group of professors that get around and talk
about their virologists and immunologists that talk about everything that's
happening right now. And it's really good science talking and
it can be a little bit tough at times, but
they've got non scientists that list and it's great information
that I really I've been listening to lots of podcast lately,

(01:12:06):
and I'll add that to my mix. Thank you. Andy
Slavitt is also a great follow. Andy Slavitt is now
I think one of Biden's people in charge of the
COVID response and he's a super smart guy on Twitter
all about everything. All right, Anthony, thank you so much.
And those are that's a new section called Anthony's Plugs.

(01:12:27):
We're gonna have it in every episode, Anthony will come
back on and plug something. Just your friendly neighborhood bio
chemists trying to love it. Send good vibes. All right, sir,
thanks for coming on. Thank you, take you bye. All right,

(01:12:47):
Well that was nice. Donald. Let's talk a little bit
more about the show, because there's almost some funny stuff
we haven't talked about. There are quite a few things
that we haven't talked about. Marty returns the janitor sidekick.
They probably played one of the best pranks on you. Yes,
very good. Um the janitor. The janitor breaks the broom
in half, and I'm like, oh, you're trying to be intimidating.

(01:13:08):
Why he goes, no, I needed to break the broom
in half, and like, what possible reason could you have
for breaking the broom in half? And in walks Marty's
up broup. Thanks thanks bra Yea. By the way, it
was the perfect size for him. It was a perfect size. Yeah. Yeah.
And then he's but to make the joke work, he

(01:13:30):
has to sweep in the You have to see him
sweep with it. Yeah, but he's sweeping the carpet, which
is the plastic meal thing. Why am I sweeping the carpet.
Why am I mopping the carpet? Um? All right, so
that was funny and um I laughed at um when
he when Todd pulls his heart out in a fantasy
to give to the patient just as he's dying, he says,

(01:13:53):
I'm gay. Makes sense, makes sense? Yeah, Well we know
that he's fluid, as the kids say, well we know that. Well,
we know that he likes he wants to know about
Turk's package all the time. Yes, but I think it's
safe to say we've we've talked about on the show
that the Todd is the Tod That's what it is.

(01:14:13):
How cute my dog is, right or anything and everything?
Are you looking how cute my dog is? Right now?
So cute dog is not cute? That dog is so
ugly the dog you said, the dog look up like,
what the fuck you say about me? Say about Oh
my god, beautiful? He is a very you have a

(01:14:35):
very beautiful dog. Um Um, coolio, Sarah says, Coolio, and
Kelsa goes Coulio. Indeed, Coulio, Indeed, I want to talk
about Cox and Jordan in this episode. Go ahead, because
they have a very interesting storyline there in the beginning
of the show, they're all happy, go lucky and they're
loving the fact that they're just there's no real there's commitment,

(01:14:58):
but there's no there's nothing hanging over with them. And
then they find out that they're still married. She finds
their old wedding rings and she presents them to him
and he said, are you kidding me? I love this,
I'm going to wear this for the rest of my life.
And it sends them down a spiral of I don't
know if I can do this for the rest of
my life. Yeah, well it really articulates. Well, I think

(01:15:18):
that when you put a wedding ring on someone, the
differences you're saying for the rest of our lives. And
they were perfectly fine and getting along without the pressure
of for the rest of your life. Right the second
they had that pressure back, they were like fuck, they
were all all out of whack. So they hold a divorce.
They have a ceremonial divorce and invite people to come

(01:15:39):
watch them get divorced. And that's why Ted's getting drunk
at the end of the show, right, Yeah, exactly, because
it's the after party. Or are you about to say
you like what I like being married? I enjoy it.
I enjoy I like it. It's a lot of fun.
You found a good partner, you know, and it's not
always that way, but I truly joy Uh. My wife,

(01:16:02):
I think you got I think you got singleness out
of your system. You know, I was a serial data
for a really long time, and I don't know that
I was ever really single single. I am for sure
married now, and I think I've got the dating out
of my system. I love I love what me and

(01:16:23):
my wife have and how we and I think I
think if you have that, and you know, for us,
we like the feeling of being married. We like the
statement that it makes for us to us to each other.
But whatever, but whatever it is that you believe, whatever
makes love work for you, you stick to it, right,
And that's what Jordan and Cox do at the end
of the show. I think they show a good example

(01:16:45):
of a couple. It's like, we don't do We just
don't like the word married. It sucks us up. We
just we'd rather just not be married. It ain't for everyone,
It really isn't forever. Let's talk about those raw outfits
from the movie from any raw Yeah, No, I don't remember.
Are those the exact replicas, because I remember that was
the style ish, But I think I think it's a replica.

(01:17:06):
I really love the fact that we are having trouble
walking around. That's so funny we can't walk. And then
I really love your take on the word raw at
the end of the joke, no wonder Eddie Murphy called
it raw. I go, I go, he said, I'm chafing.
Now I know why Eddie called it raw. But you

(01:17:28):
added a little bit more to the raw at the end.
You were like rowe called it raw, and then I
and then I go to find I go, Carla ty powder.
But the way we walk in those outfits is so funny.
They should have brought those back. Oh, man, didn't we?

(01:17:49):
We didn't do it that again, didn't we? No? I
don't think we. How about um when Elliott's go, oh,
look at poor Elliott riding a tandem bike alone. I
be the saddest, the loneliest site you can see, is
someone riding a tandem bike alone. You don't that that's
a judging a book, bites cup. You don't know that

(01:18:09):
person's circumstance. Why why are they riding and tandem bike alone?
And alone? Well? In Elliot's. In Elliot's case, it was
the car broke down and that was the only bike
that she had available to her. Yeah, it'd be funny.
It would be even more sad if you could ride
the tandem bike alone from the back book that would

(01:18:33):
make it deem even more loadsome I don't even I
don't even want to take the lead. I just want
to be miserable in the back. By the way, I
would love a tandem bike you could ride alone from behind.
That would be so funny to watch. You just need
to adjust the steering to the back to the middle
to however it would be. Um. Yeah, so then I
get tackled. I didn't know why that happened. Although it

(01:18:56):
was funny, I just had no idea why it happened. Um,
and that's it. That's the show. Yeah. Well I was
gonna say that the real one ends with beck song
lost cause, but I had something else on my on
my one on iTunes for for some copyright reasons, thanks
a lot, Randall. Um, that's our show, everybody, Um, we

(01:19:19):
did it. No, that's our show. For the hater that's
our show, haters, yeah but one. But we still digress.
But for those of you who who write mean comments
to Donald and I saying that we digress too much.
That's as minimum as it's gonna get. That's as minimal
as it's gonna get. And we did an hour thirty
and that's it. That's the one time we're gonna do that.

(01:19:40):
In nine seasons, we do this, Okay, right you? Well? Yes,
I really liked that. I really I feel like we
should hang up and then catch up more because we
we We just didn't do enough of it and I
need more of it from you. Well, do you want
to We can always get off the We could always
get off the line. No, I don't want to. This

(01:20:00):
is for the haters. I'm gonna I'll call you privately, Okay.
I want to talk to you. I want to talk
to you about some movies I saw. I want to
do some impressions for you. Have seen any movie. I
want to tell you the craziest story you've ever heard. Sorry,
guys that can't tell them the show, But I have
the craziest bit of gossip for you. Yeah, I can't
wait to hear it. You're not gonna believe it. I

(01:20:22):
ran I ran into I ran into Brad Pitt. No,
I did. He's listening to the podcast and he wants
I gonna say this story, I'll say, I'll tell you. Um,
all right, guys, we love you. Um. Hey, for Valentine's Day,
this is a very cheap slash funny present for your lover. Uh.
It's a Turk and JD split heart key chains. Um.

(01:20:44):
They're available at a Cotton Bureau dot com. And then
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We uh, we love you. Check Out that show I
told you about on Hulu. It's really good in and
of itself. Donald, I'll call you in a moment. We'll
catch up. I'll tell you the Brad Pitt story. Dude,

(01:21:04):
I got something to tell you too. It's gonna be great. Okay.
By the way, I'm I'm I'm pregnant, but I don't
want to tell everyone on the show, so I'm gonna
tell you in private. You know, you know it's probably
I don't mean I don't I don't mean my partner's pregnant.
I mean I am pregnant. Well, you know it's probably
gonna be an ass baby. Then yes, I want to

(01:21:25):
tell you about I've already talked to the doctor about
how I'm going to deliver through my rector. Six seven,
eight stories about show me about a bunch of doctor nurses,
said he's the stories so yetto around here, yetto around here.

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