Buy Low, Sell High: 20 Trade Candidates to Revamp Your Dynasty Roster (Ep. 139)

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hello everybody.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Dynasty Football Podcast. I am
Ryan Warmley, joined today by Pat Fitzmorris and Scott Bogman Boggs.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
We missed you last week. I was Opening Day. It
was great.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
I got to see the Diamondbacks historic fourteen run inning.
I got to see a lot of friends and family
in Phoenix. So I had a good time. But happy
to be back and talking football with you guys. Fitz,
we had a great time last week. We'll have to
somehow manage bringing Bogs back into the into the fold
here for this week's episode.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Yeah, we were trying not to be resentful of Bogman
for sitting there and watching baseball, drinking beer, eating hot dogs.
But you know, we survived. But it's nice to be
back to the three man weave.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Of course, let's jump into the episode here, jam packed.
As always, we're talking by low Sell high dynasty trade
candidates to revamp your roster. As a quick reminder, all
of our early twenty twenty four consensus rankings and tiers
can be found at Fantasypros dot com slash rankings. You
can also nowavigate from there to our staff Dynasty rankings
on the site as well. We've got rookie rankings in

(01:04):
addition to all of that. Let's start with the news
and notes quickly. There's really one big one. Stefan Diggs
traded to the Houston Texans. It was a blockbuster yesterday morning.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Fits. What was your immediate takeaway from seeing this?

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Oh, so many things go into this. I guess worm
the slight of a slight value hit for Nico Collins
and Tank Dell, but really the rich get Richer a
wide receiver. And now, obviously I think the Bills need
to draft someone, but maybe this offers some a value
boost to my guy, Khalil Shakir. Mostly, I was just

(01:36):
thinking about CJ. Stroud and how the people who drafted
him last year, quite possibly as the third quarterback in
the rookie drafts behind Anthony Richardson and Bryce Young, they
just rolled Yatzi with that and it just keeps getting
better and better. Like Stroud has this terrific season, and
now they are just going all in on him and

(01:57):
trying to win this, you know, maybe win a championship
before his rookie contract expires, and like they've they've got
to pay Stefan Diggs a lot. I know the Bills
are eating some of his money, but like they signed
him to a big four year contract extension two years ago.

(02:18):
But it times out pretty well for the Texans because
by the time his contract has expired, that's right around
the time they'll have to be thinking of extending Stroud,
and obviously they're gonna give him a ton of money,
but they don't have to do that yet, and they
can afford a move like this. I think it makes
sense for both sides. Bills were pretty cap strapped, they're
gonna go out and draft a wide receiver, I would imagine.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Now Stroud was the QB three in all of my
rookie drafts last year for the record, so a lot
of people. I was a beneficiary that in a couple
of leagues getting as late as the one of six,
even in superflex, So that is certainly to your point,
something is really paid out for a lot of people. Bogman,
My first takeaway when I saw this was, you know,
we've talked a lot about how the clear you know,

(03:01):
in rookie drafts this year in super Flex, there's a
very clear top eight. There's tiers within that, but it's
a clear top eight is number nine. Now, just whichever
receiver the Bills take in the first round, yeah, probably,
I mean it has to because I, like Fitz said,
I don't think they're going to roll with the combo
of Shakir, Curtis Samuel and Justin Shorter right, So all

(03:22):
it almost makes it too obvious that they are going
to be taking a wide receiver in the draft. But
this is a deep class, so they don't really care.
They obviously have a lot of wide receivers they like.
I think Stefan Diggs screaming at Josh Allen on the
sidelines probably had a lot to do with this move.
So and it hurts. It hurts Digs a lot, I

(03:44):
feel like, you know, because he goes to being the
clear number one, the overwhelming target share guy in Buffalo too.
Now Niko is gonna get more than him some games.
Tank might get more than him some games. Saltan Schultz
was a big part of what CJ. Stroud did last
year as well, and they brought in Joe Mixon. I
think this team is having an incredible offseason. They just

(04:06):
took one of the seconds that Minnesota gave them and
turned it into Stefan Diggs, So they basically traded A
one for Digs, A two, A five, and a six.
I think they're they're doing pretty good this offseason. They
made some good acquisitions and like Fitz said, this is
this team super Bowl just got a little better.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Let me ask you guys real fast, do you think
if everyone stays healthy next year, Diggs leads this team
in targets?

Speaker 1 (04:33):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yeah, I would say probably, but I think say it'll
be very close. I was. I was just gonna ask
how you guys would rank these three. Not for dynasty
because obviously Digs is much older than the other two,
but but just for this year going into the season,
how are you planning to rank these three? Because I
feel like, depending on the person you ask, you're gonna
get three wildly different combinations. Probably Dell lower just because

(04:58):
of the injury, but he looks real good for a stretch.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
There is rookie season.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Obviously, we know what Nico did last year and what
Diggs has done in the past before Joe Brady was
his offensive coordinator, So I like, I think you can
really make the case in a lot of different directions, right, bagman, Yeah,
I mean, it is real hard like I just said Diggs.
But now when you asked me the question, I want
to say Collins, and I'm probably gonna go with Collins.
So yeah, I think I go Collins, Diggs and Tank,

(05:23):
Like you said, because of the injury and the side,
there are still sized concerns with Tank. He's a great
wide receiver, but if he can't stay healthy and that's
gonna be a theme in his career, that's a concern.
So I think he has to go third. But uh,
you know, I don't if you wanted to put him
ahead of Diggs, I understand too, because Diggs is definitely
a fading star.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Fit's the same question, are you ordering those?

Speaker 2 (05:43):
I think that's probably the way most people order it
is Collins, Diggs, Dell.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Is that what you would do as well?

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Fits Diggs, Collins delf for me, because I think Diggs
is gonna demand the ball like there might be the
diva factor there. But no, I mean I I don't
think Digs has hit the wall yet, but we still
have to be at least a little bit concerned about
the way he ended last season. I mean, like his
run in Buffalo great overall averaged one hundred and eleven

(06:10):
catches over thirteen hundred yards nine point three touchdowns a season.
But last year, in his last ten games of the season,
including the playoffs, which was from Week ten on, he
averaged forty two point two yards per game, averaged just
five point three yards per target, and had one touchdown
over that ten game stretch. So he we saw some

(06:31):
major slippage from him late in the season. I think
he's gonna have to have to answer the question of,
you know, whether he's still that top dog alpha receiver.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Last question on this fits I asked about, you know,
the one oh nine in rookie drafts to Bogman, I
know you have been a guy who has said you
think the one to nine is probably Brian Thomas if
he goes before the Bills can picked and then they
picked somebody else. Do you think whoever the receiver is
au Xavier Worry the eighty min'll Troy Franklin and Lad
mccacky your receiver of choice. Would that person in Buffalo

(07:05):
be ahead of Brian Thomas and your rankings?

Speaker 3 (07:07):
I think so, Like a lot of people I've I've
heard Brian Thomas sort of connected to the Colts at
number fifteen. If Thomas goes to the Colts at fifteen
and like my guy Kean Coleman or Ladd McConkie. I mean,
I think they're gonna want a big guy. Even if
they reached went for someone like Xavier Legatt, who no
one expects to be a first rounder, if they took

(07:27):
Legett there, I think Legett would probably be my one
O nine over Thomas.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
I think I think that's fair.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
I mean, we've talked a lot about how after the
one away it's gonna really come down to landing spot.
This immediately becomes a crazy appealing landing spot. Let's open
into the bilos here. We're gonna give everybody ten bilos.
Then we'll go to ten cell highs later in the show.
Fits us start with you. Who's your first by low.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
It's Chase Brown, No more Joe Mixon in Cincinnati. So
it's gonna be some combination of Chase Brown and Zach Moss.
A lot of people think Moss is going to be
the primary guy. I think Brown's better. But even if
I'm wrong, I think Brown is still going to have
a very fantasy relevant role. He's most likely going to
play on passing downs based on the success he had

(08:12):
as a pass catcher last year. I mean, he looked
really good last year in limited doses, especially in the
passing game. Cut fourteen to fifteen targets for one hundred
and fifty six yards in a touchdown, So the efficiency
was through the roof. Granted, yes, a very small sample size,
but I mean Brown is fast and shifty, and he
could play on any down and be used as a

(08:34):
workhorse if they need him, because he averaged twenty seven
point three carries a game in his final season at Illinois,
Like they worked him into the ground and he held
up under that massive workload. So right now his ECR
is RB forty two. I've got him at RB twenty
nine for Dynasty.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
How early in the draft would the Bengals need to
take a rookie running back for that running back to
scare you off of Brown? Because if it's like a
seventh round, you're probably not really concerned. It's more like
a depth piece. At what round are you saying, well,
this probably doesn't bode well for Chase Brown.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Day two would be bad, and maybe even round four
might be Uh, sweaty palms, Bobby, what.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Do you think? I agree?

Speaker 2 (09:15):
And I don't know that Chase Brown is better than
Zach Moss, but he definitely is healthier than Zach mossak
Moss has never played every game in a season in
his career. He's had a lot of major injuries. He
had one coming in to the NFL, which I feel
like he's looked better the further he's got away from
that bad like break when he was at Utah. But yeah,

(09:35):
I mean, I gotta be honest. Fits got to the
list first, and this is one of those instances where
I was extremely jealous of three or four of his
picks for you know this exercise. Chase Brown was at
the very top of my list, So I think it's
an excellent pick.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Let that be a lesson to you to get your
names to me.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
I was gonna say, I was wondering why Bogman's choices
I beat him to the paunch.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Oh yeah, yeah, okay, thanks fitz uh Bogue. Let's go
to your first pick, which might race in my brass,
but I think is actually a pretty good one.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Look, I'm gonna say Bryce Young, right, he's QB twenty
and I don't know if I would get him that
much higher in my overall rankings, right like, I think
QB twenty is probably where he should be, but I
think the overall thought process on him is pretty low
after last year. And as you mentioned before, Worm, you
know Stroud was three. He was behind Bryce Young in

(10:28):
a lot of drafts, and it's because he was so
good in college and the Panthers were miserable last season.
They were a huge embarrassing failure. But they've added guards,
which was a big issue for them. They added Deontay Johnson.
They just need any wide receivers that can get separation.
They're probably going to add more in the draft. They've
hit the reset button on the defense, so the defense

(10:50):
is probably it's like Derek Brown and a lot of
free agent signings, so it's gonna be leaky. So I
think with an improved O line, another year for another
year for Bryce Young, I think we're gonna see closer
to that two percent turnover worthy play rate. His last
two seasons in college, he had a top ten adjust
a completion percentage his final year in college. This season,

(11:14):
it was only his adjusted completion percentage in the NFL
was only better than Will Levis and Kenny Pickett. So
I don't think we're gonna see this version of Bryce
Young again. I think we're gonna give him better targets.
We're gonna give him more time to throw through the
draft and through free agency signing, and I think we're
gonna see a much improved Bryce Young. So I think
this may be the time to buy him at his

(11:36):
lowest point. So if you can get him now, especially
in a super flex league, I'm going to try to
go out and get him. Yeah, I think it's important
to differentiate between by and by low. The whole reason
why it makes sense is because he's his value has
probably never been lower. And you know, it's it's not
that you think he's under ranked, it's that there is

(11:56):
baked in upside. He has the pedigree and the team
around him like could hardly get much worse, right, Like,
eventually you would think they would get better.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
So it's more like it's a smart swing to take.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
I don't want to say full on lottery take it,
but it's a smart, you know, upside play to make,
rather than saying like, oh, he's gonna way out perform
his ADP this season necessarily, if that makes sense, kind
of mitigate, you know, from the risk standpoint, what do
you make of Bryce Young fits because again, I mean,
it's hard to have much worse of a rookie season
than he did. But we do see quarterbacks take a
step in year two. You know, again, theoretically the town

(12:29):
should be better. He already, as Deontay Johnson added, how
are you evaluating Young from a dynasty perspective?

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Right now?

Speaker 3 (12:35):
I agree with the way you guys see this, And look,
I drafted him ahead of C. J. Stroud in a
league last year, and yes I regret it, but I'm
also not calling it a total loss either. Like it
would be hard to stack the deck against Bryce Young
much more than he had the deck stacked against him

(12:55):
last year. It was David Carr type deck stack. Yeah,
against Bryce, Like the offensive line was just gross. Adam Thielen,
who I believe has three or four grandkids, was the
leading receiver. It was just like there was nothing there
for him. That the infrastructure was so bad and the
ecosystem was so unhealthy. And yet like we saw some

(13:17):
flashes late in the season, he lit up my Green
Bay Packers on Christmas eve Day for over three hundred
yards and looked really good doing so. So there are
signs of hope here. Let's hope he can still be
that sort of point guard, extraordinary type quarterback. A lot
of people thought he'd be coming in because the tape

(13:38):
he put up at Alabama was terrifically. I think he
can still be that guy.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Fitz Let's stick with you for your next by Low.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
It's DJ Moore, And it's possible that some of the
people rostering DJ Moore right now are feeling a little
bit uneasy with his situation. The Bears brought in Keenan Allen,
the rumors that they might draft Roma, say at one
oh nine in the NFL Draft at the end of
the month, and the Bears are going to be playing
a rookie at quarterback, granted a very highly touted one.

(14:10):
Moore turns twenty seven next week, so squarely in his prime.
He's gone over eleven hundred yards and four of his
last five seasons despite never having played with a truly
prolific passer, I mean, Justin Fields last year was probably
the best quarterback he's ever played with, and Field's averaged
under two hundred passing yards a game, so and yet

(14:31):
Moore still had thirteen hundred and sixty four yards so,
and some of that was with Tyson Bagent too. Like DJ,
Moore is just an awesome receiver. He's really good. So
I'm not going to freak out about the situation. And
if anyone wants to freak out about his situation and
maybe sell him to me at a very reasonable price,

(14:52):
I am absolutely game because he's gonna earn targets, he's
gonna make plays, and yes, there's more target competition, but
I do like to think that with Aleb Williams at
quarterback for the Bears, assuming they do take him, that's
maybe going to grow the overall passing pie in Chicago.
So even if Moore is getting a slightly smaller share
of that pie, you know, with a bigger overall pie,

(15:15):
maybe he doesn't lose that much.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
I'm not sure what his quarterback situation was in high school,
but it certainly wasn't good at Maryland, and it certainly
wasn't good in Carolina, and it hasn't been great in Chicago.
He is about to play with like clearly the best
quarterback he's ever played with, Bagman, I'm curious, do you
see it more? Obviously, Kayla Williams, huge upgrade. We're excited
about that. Do you see the addition of Keenan Allen
in potential edition of Roma Dunza or if not a Duneza,

(15:41):
I think it's likely they ad at least another receiver
somewhere in the draft. Do you think that the you know,
lack of defensive attention that Moore might get now will
be more of a boost than the decline possibly in targets?
I really do, yeah, because I mean, what have we
seen from DJ Moore? He's been the number one by
a lot in Carolina, the number one by a lot

(16:02):
in Chicago, and he has put up great numbers. So
to me, he is one of the few wide receivers
that is that has seemed pretty QB proof, right, And
if you like you said, you're gonna give him the
best one. I don't like everything out of Maryland, but
I definitely like DJ Moore and I think he is
going to have his best season this year, whether or

(16:24):
not they draft Roma Doon Say, I think they're going
to be able to pass more. You know, we'll get
into it a little bit later. I don't think this
run game is going to work as well as they
think it's going to work. And the defense is still growing,
so I think they're going to need to pass. I
think DJ Moore is going to have an enormous season,
and I definitely like this Bilo as well. You know, Fits,

(16:44):
we talked about how we really want to see if
we can swing a trade live in the air sometime
one oh one. Your pick that you got from Debro
for DJ Moore, What do you think?

Speaker 4 (16:54):
Not quite? I need the quarterback.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yeah, thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
And by the way, I don't think we can call
DJ Moore entirely QB proof because when Baker Mayfield was
playing for the Panthers, Mayfield was the one guy who
managed to absolutely destroy DJ Moore's productivity.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Well that's Baker though, I mean, that's not really DJ Morris.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
Well, then you're right. The Baker was great last year.
It was weird where they those two just had no
chemistry watching.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yes, sometimes it's just like two guys aren't on the
same page and it just just does not work.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Jean Digs and Josh Allen.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
That worked a little bit better than DJ Moore and
Baker Mayfield. I've give your next Bylow. I'm gonna go
with Zach Charboney here and right, he's not too low.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
He's RB twenty nine.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
But I am super excited to see what Ryan Grubbs
does well with this offense. In his press conference, he said,
we are going to be a physical team. The team
has great skill players right. The wide receivers are amazing.
In the running backs, Walker and Sharbony are both really good.
Grubbs had a great aerial attack at Washington. But this

(17:58):
is the team with mcdonne donald at the helm. McDonald
comes from Baltimore, where they ran the ball and played defense.
They were one of three teams last season that ran
the ball more than they passed. They led the league
in rush attempts. You know, McDonald's a defensive guy, but
good offensive coaches fit the system to work with the
personnel on the roster, not vice versa. So I don't

(18:20):
think this is a team that's going to come in
here and draft Michael Pennix and throw the ball at
eight hundred times a game. I mean they could, but
you can't do that with Gino Smith, right. Gino is
a guy that is you know, he gets on heaters.
Sometimes he's good, sometimes he's bad. So you kind of
have to work that out every game. And I think
you're going to benefit yourself by running the ball a lot.

(18:41):
I'm not saying, you know, I wouldn't put Walker in
by low or sell high or anything. I still think
Walker is easily the better running back here. I think
he's one of the best running backs in the league.
But I do think this is a team that is
going to put together a two headed monsters with Zach
Sharbonay behind Walker. I think he's gonna he's going a
little bit too low right now. And once again, I

(19:03):
think if you're going to buy him, now is the
time because if he has a big season, anything happens
to Walker, his value is going to skyrocket. So get
him now while he still hasn't really proven himself.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Fits if if I guarantee you Walker like stays fully
healthy and is on the team, how would you evaluate
Sharbona based on what we saw as a rookie and
we know of him as a prospect.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
Yeah, I mean he's really good, and I guess in
redraft that would just make him a handcuff or whatever.
But like, I still want him in Dynasty even though
the path to fantasy startability I guessed in dynasty leagues,
like we're not starting Zach Charbonay in week one if
Kenneth Walker is healthy, you know, But like charbon A

(19:48):
is really talented, and I'm gonna willing to play the
long game with him, even though Kenneth Walker is terrific.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
Like I love Kenneth Walker.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
He when he came out, like a lot of people
had him ranked even with or ahead of Breis Hall.
You know, like Walker was that highly regarded as a prospect,
and I don't think he's done anything to.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
You know, sour us on him at all. But charbon
Ay is like great deal.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
Of potential run, catch threats, good size, like pretty much
the entire package. Yeah, Like I don't know if Scattle's
going to continue to be the fifth run heaviest team
in the league like they were last season, but still
like there's a.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
Lot of potential here with charbon Ay.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
So even though there's not a clear path the playing
time or at least, you know, the sort of playing
time that would make him a startable commodity, I'm still
willing to buy in.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
If someone's panic selling on.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Him fits, let's stick with you for your next by low.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Yeah, Christian Watson, And this is not just packer homersm
Like the hang ups with Watson are one he's been
having these chronic hamstring issues and two the Packers now
have a really good and really large collection of young
pass catchers Watson, Jayden, Reid, Romeo Dubbs, Dontavian Wicks, the
two tight ends Muskrave and Craft. So the Packers sent

(21:14):
Watson too a specialist to have them examine the hamstring issue.
Hopefully that leads to some adjustments in his training, diet,
exercise regimen, whatever. The hamstring issue is a concern for sure,
but it's not enough to make me walk away. And
as for the target chair thing, like, I am always

(21:35):
going to fade the too many mouths to feed narrative
as a reason to be down on a player. If
a receiver's good, he's going to earn targets and make plays.
And I want to bet on a guy who's six
foot four, has sub four to four speed, who is
good enough to score eight touchdowns over a four game
span as a rookie and also scored four touchdowns over

(21:56):
a three game span last year despite playing in only
nine games, Like, I want to invest in that guy.
And if other people perceive all sorts of headwinds with
Christian Watson, so much the better for me and making
a trade offer to that person.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Bogman, what do you think? I mean?

Speaker 2 (22:12):
I who was like, there was a ton of hype
last year, and I like in the preseason debro was
particularly high. So we're only when you're you know, removed
from that, and there was injury stuff last year. What
do you think I definitely agree with the sentiment of,
you know, too many mouths to feed is a little
eye rolling, because we've seen that too many times where

(22:34):
you know, even even at a different position, even at
running back, even at tight end, you know, if you're
the better player, you're going to get the targets, you're
going to get the run. As Tony Romo famously described
the NFL, it is a meritocracy. If you merit being
out there, you will be out there. It doesn't matter
who's ahead of you. It's ever changing landscape every single week.

(22:57):
So do I think Christian Watson's the most talented player
on this roster?

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (23:01):
I don't have him much higher than his than his
ECR right now in terms of uh, you know where
we're putting all these wide receivers.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
I have him.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
I actually have him two spots below where his ECR
is at forty two. He's at forty right now. I
don't know that everyone is ranked their rookies, so maybe
I'll have him a little bit higher than consensus once
everyone does rank rookies. I know some people like to
wait until after the draft to see where the landing
spot is, so I'll probably be a little bit higher
on him than consensus post draft. And yeah, I like

(23:34):
to buy I'd like to buy him, but the injury stuff, man,
is going to keep happening.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
That is what keeps me away.

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Speaker 1 (24:16):
Give me your next bylow. Give me Terry McLaurin.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
He's going off the board wide receiver thirty seven right now,
and all I can think with Cliff Kingsbury coming in,
and to me, it doesn't really matter if it's Jane
Daniels or Drake May. I particularly would want Drake May,
but I know Jane Daniels may fit better for Cliff Kingsbury.
Doesn't make any difference to me. Terry McLaurin is going
to be the number one here. And what made me really,

(24:44):
you know, I think back to DeAndre Hopkins getting in
this offense, getting with Kyler Murray right and having that
first like really huge year when he was fifth in
points per game. He was twenty second his second year
under Kingsbury, was tenth in points per game his third year.
His only full health season was that first year in

(25:05):
twenty twenty, where he finished fourth overall in total points
among wide receivers. McLaurin is the current number one in
Washington by a wide margin. It's Johan Dotson who is
incredibly disappointing last season, and Olamide Zakias next to him.
We all expect them to add a wide receiver in
the draft. But they're gonna take a QB with that

(25:27):
first pick, so you're gonna have to wait on a
wide receiver. It's deep this year, there's gonna be a
good one, and there's gonna be one that could surely
pass Dotson, But I don't know if there's gonna be
a wide receiver in his rookie season to just sail
past Terry McLaurin. So I think in this system, knowing
this defense is still you know they're putting it together.

(25:47):
I know Dan Quinn is the defensive guy, but the
personnel is not great that defensive line, especially edge thrushers.
They added a lot, but they didn't add anyone overwhelmingly great.
So maybe better than last year, but not good. I
think as long as the QB plays improved, we should
expect to see mclaurn eclipse his career highs one hundred

(26:09):
and thirty four targets and seven touchdowns, which makes him
way more than the number one wide receiver four. I
think he's at least a high end wide receiver. Three
to me fits How you know, to what degree will
your opinion of McLaurin in dynasty change based on which
quarterback it is the commander's ad.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Not all that much. Whether it's McCarthy, may or Daniels.
I think I'll still probably feel about the same with McLaurin,
just as long as it's not Sam Howell, because one,
I think Sam Howell is bad and number two, Sam
Howell seemed like he was much more comfortable throwing to
the middle of the field than to the boundaries, So

(26:51):
I think like it just wasn't a good fit for
McLaurin at all.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
Like mclaurin's always been really good, he's just always ace
the eye test. So I'm totally with Bogs here.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Fits Let's stick with you for your next Bilow.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Travis kelce Look, if you perceive your Dynasty team to
be a championship contender in twenty twenty four and the
team that has Travis Kelcey is maybe rebuilding or retooling,
go out and get him because Kelsey is no longer
unattainable or super expensive. He's thirty four now, he's coming

(27:25):
off his worst season statistically since twenty fifteen, and yes,
maybe he is slowing down a little bit, but this
dude still came within sixteen yards of his eighth straight
one thousand yard receiving season, and that was playing in
only fifteen games. So I still think he's going to
be a highly impactful tight end. Playing with Patrick Mahomes

(27:48):
and the addition of Marquis Brown is probably going to
make his job a little bit easier, give him a
little more room to work with.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
So go out and get him.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
If you're in contention, Bog, I'm curious what you think.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
I'm Kelsey, because I like, I totally see the case
that fits is making. But I'm just would be so
nervous that I'd be the one left hold in the
bag and trading for him the year that this thing
actually does nos dive off a cliff because he's an
aging tight end who has had so much usage that
just it just scares me. I can't believe the agist
Pat fitz Morris here it has Travis Kelcey as a

(28:23):
by low, But I love it. Look sure, at some
point you're going to be at some point he's going
to decline. He's going to fall or retire one of
the two. Right, It's not his path isn't five or
six more years. I think we all know that it's
you know, two seasons at worst, probably maybe three seasons.

(28:47):
I mean, they win the Super Bowl this year, he
could retire. You know, it wouldn't be shocking. And I
know his agents want to turn him into the Rock
and all that stuff and blah blah blah dating Travis
or dating Taylor Swift, blah blah know, all all that,
all that off field distraction. Sure, but I mean with
Rashie Rice being in trouble potentially getting a you know,

(29:08):
large suspension, if not worse. You know, Marcus Brown, I
don't know, he's kind of washed. I think this team
is going to draft a wide receiver as well, especially
after Rice's issues. But Kelsey is still going to be
the main guy. And as long as he is out there,
he is the dude, and he is a giant difference

(29:28):
maker at the tight end position. So yeah, I'm all
aboard this one, especially if it's owner that you know,
a manager that wants to get out from under Kelsey
because he's aging and you can get him just a
little bit cheaper. So yeah, I'm I'm aboard this, you know,
by the old man, Travis kelcey uh train here for sure.
And I like to see the growth from fits buying

(29:50):
the old men here.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
Look, I mean, it's only for a certain type of team,
a title contender. If you're in a productive struggle, you're
not going out to get Travis of course.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Yeah, I just get this sense that, like I really
have a gut feeling that, like the only reason it
felt to me that he came back was because he
wanted to go for this three pet that they've been
talking a lot about, and so I just am very
nervous that they are going to, even more so, to
whatever degree we saw it last year, even more so
kind of save him to unleash him in January, and

(30:22):
that you know, won't help you for fantasy. Are you
rostering him anywhere? You know, trade trade with worm everybody,
That's what we should do. I actually don't think I
have him in dynasty anywhere, So that's I don't know.
Maybe that speaks to my pessimism about where he is
at least in terms of trading for him. Bogman, I'm
less pessimistic on the guy that you're going to talk

(30:44):
about next. Yeah, Keith Mitchell going off at RB forty nine.
And the risk here, of course is that he doesn't
come back one hundred percent after a torn acl and
if that takes him off your list.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
I understand that he started the season on the I
he ended on the IR. Honestly, I get it. But
he didn't have a lengthy injury history at ECU. He
had a hit pointer that cost him a game his
last season, and then a shoulder injury that reeks of
roster manipulation by the Ravens. I'm not going to accuse
anyone of anything, but he started the year on the

(31:19):
pup right, didn't play the first five games, I think so,
and then he had a hamstring injury that cost him
a game. Then of course the ACL injury, right, and
I know Dereck Henry is coming here, and Dereck Henry
is a monster. But once again with Keith Mitchell, he
is not a dude that has to have one hundred
carries to make an impact. He balances with Henry perfectly

(31:41):
because Henry is that guy that wears down the defense.
And last season, among running backs with at least twenty carries,
he had the best PFF elusive rating, the most breakaway yards,
the most yards after contact. He was seventh among yards
of running backs in yards per route run. The talent
is all, the risk is the health and this could

(32:02):
be the lowest he is for a while. I think
he's the perfect complimentary back next to Derrick Henry, and
I'm trying to get him wherever I can. He's gonna
be particularly cheap, especially because I don't think he's going
to be able to start the season on time. I
think he's gonna start on the puff again, and because
that injury was late, and you can probably get him
for a song at some point. And I think the

(32:24):
closer we get to the season starting, and you know,
the more reports we hear about him not being ready,
the cheaper he's gonna get. So this might be one
of those where you want to hold out the closer
to the season to get him when people are being
frustrated and they don't want a roster guy that's going
to be hurt and stuff like that. But I think
right now could be the time to get him. It
is a risk, but I don't think it's going to

(32:46):
be a very costly risk either, So I would go
out and see what it's going to cost for Mitchell
if you can. Yeah, I don't want to hear any
accusations of you know, roster shenanigans this time. When he's
on puff because he will define be one hundred percent warranted. Yeah,
we've already seen like what the fit can be in
this offense. He looked awesome sharing a backfield with Lamar

(33:07):
Jackson and Gus Edwards. Imagine now sharing a backfield with
Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
The health is a question mark, like no doubt about it.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
But again, just like Bryce Young, you're not saying to
go by, You're saying to go by low if you
can get him really cheap. This is this is I
would put the you know, a moniker of lottery ticket on,
but a guy who can hit really big, who has
the talent and the fit fits you are ranking Mitchell
quite low.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
I believe he's in your.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
RB sixties late sixties range in Dynasty. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
I mean I have been the Greek chorus for Bogs
up to this point, but I can't get on board
with this when and of course I knew you were
gonna be with him on this where he was a
Ravens fan. But like, I'm just not interested and I
wouldn't even give up a late third round rookie pick
for Keith Mitchell. To be quite honest with you, like,
I just don't see he's too small to ever have

(33:59):
a financial workload, and so it's gonna be tough to
decide when you're gonna start him in a managed league.
Maybe in a Best Ball dynasty league, he might be
a little more appealing because you're gonna get those big
plays assuming he comes back fully healthy. And you don't
like to see a back this small have a major

(34:20):
knee injury. That's possibly going to make him a little
less explosive. And you know, just like there are always
gonna be durability issues or concerns with the guy this
small to begin with. So I'm just not too excited
about this, honestly. And you know, I'm not going to
be going out and making offers for Keaton Mitchell.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
Sorry.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
I know he's not the same caliber of player, but
it is funny for me to hear you making the
case against Mitchell based on like size and stuff like
that when you're so high on Devon Ah.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
I know they're not the same player. I know they're
not the same player, but I did it, did it work,
But I was like, I'll leave that one alone. I've
been on shows with.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
You and ericson where you disagree on h Han and
you're the high guy on him. So then to hear
you making the case against a player that's like not
as good but stylistically maybe similar. But to Pat's point,
a chance not coming off of torn me. I know,
I just I had to to cat up because I've
heard that argument on the other side of it. But
I'm not say Mitchell and ah Chan are anywhere near

(35:27):
the same. They play the same way, they have the
same style, right, but h Chan is an Olympic level sprinter, so.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Yes, yes I would.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
I want to really be clear, I'm not saying Mitchell
is Divide a Chance fits who's your next Bilo.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
Jackson Smith and Jigba And as with Christian Watson a
DJ Moore, I am fading the too mini miles to
feed narrative. So like I'm happy to swoop in if
someone is concerned that JSN situation is still the same
as it was last year, where he's got to share
targets with the dk met and Tyler Lockett, who I

(36:01):
think a lot of people or at least the JSN
investors were hoping would move on insteads Yettle, you know,
brings back lockets, So I don't know. Maybe people are
feeling panicky after JSN only had six hundred and twenty
eight receiving yards and four touchdowns as a rookie, and
like there's no more clear path to targets with him.

(36:23):
He also had just this weird He averaged nine point
nine seven yards per catch last year and his average
depth of target was six point one yards, so the
usage was kind of strange, But I'm optimistic. Boggs was
talking early about Ryan Grubbed, the new offensive coordinator who
managed to juggle three really good wide receivers at Washington,

(36:45):
so maybe that bodes well for JSN. And just I
still think that this is a really talented guy, and
we have no reason to doubt that talent based on
his rookie year, and he just turned twenty two and
was a first round pick.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
So still really bullish on this guy.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
And if whoever drafted him last year is not feeling
as good about him as they did a year ago, yes,
I will put in a good faith offer to try
to get him off your hands.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Yeah, Bogman, I pretty much could not have been higher
on JSN last year, and we kind of knew what
to expect going into last season with Lockett and Metcalf there,
So I don't feel.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Like I'm scared off at all. What about you?

Speaker 2 (37:28):
No, And it's always best to get one of these
supremely talented dudes before they have that enormous season, because
you know, if he did have that enormous season, he'd
be up where Pokin Nakua is. Right, So he does
he have the talent to get there?

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Maybe?

Speaker 2 (37:44):
I mean I think he could, but I don't know.
I have him a little bit higher than consensus. I
think he's still going to be real good. You may
have to play the waiting game a little bit. You know,
if Gino isn't good, do they go to Sam Howe
who wasn't good in Washington last year? I'm a little
I think my most concerning thing here would be the

(38:05):
quarterback scenario, because I don't think Gino played as well
as he did, you know, in twenty twenty two in
twenty three, Sam Howell concerns me. So I still think
they may be hunting there, which is why I like Sharboney.
But I do think anytime you can buy one of
these super talented wide receivers before they put up a
Pro Bowl level season is a good time to buy,

(38:25):
So I'm absolutely on board with this one as well,
bog Bean, sticking with you for your last by love.
All right, we're gonna go low here. Give me Jalil McLaughlin,
who right now is currently sitting at RB sixty four
on our Dynasty list. And who the hell is the
quarterback in Denver? We have no idea. We know that

(38:46):
the passing game isn't going to be great with probably
whoever they bring in. We know that the defense is
still weak, especially at putting pressure on the QB. So
what is the game plan going to be to counteract?
That's to be to run the football a lot. And
you know it's either an old vet or rookie and
this team is going to be relying on that run game.

(39:07):
I'm a believer in Javante still, but McLaughlin looked good
at the end of the year. He's passed p Ryan
in the pecking order. In my opinion. McLaughlin had fourteen
more mistackles forced than p Ryan twenty to six, in
only four more touches than p Ryan. McLaughlin had a
higher yards per carry, yards after contact, breakaway percentage carries
the ten yards and grated better than p Ryan in

(39:30):
literally every single PFF category. So the trend started at
the end of the season in December with more touches
going to McLaughlin than p Ryan forty one to thirty four,
and I expected to continue. And this guy is going
for a song right now. You can literally get him for,
you know, a throw in a very late pick. If

(39:51):
you have five rounds, you could probably get him for
a fourth or fifth round rookie pick. And I think
I would be willing to do that because I like
what I saw from Leo McLaughlin and I love Javonte.
I still have him as a very high running back,
but I think there's more questions with him coming off
the nasty knee injury and not looking great last season.
So I think McLaughlin is a really cheap BILO that

(40:13):
I want right now. I was surprised to see him
ranked as low as he is in the consensus. I
thought Debro alone would have him higher because he's ranking
him as a top twenty four running back for next season.
I think he has an RB twenty one in Dynasty,
which I know that I have to imagine is the
highest anybody. I mean, I got him at forty eight,
and I've thought I was going to be high, so

(40:34):
I got him as an RB four.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
He's going off as an RB six.

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Speaker 1 (41:40):
Guys, let's move into the cell highs.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
We'll move a bit quicker in this section because we
are up on it on time fits.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
Giving your first cell high Michael Pittman. A year ago,
maybe Pittman was a little undervalued because he was coming
off at disappointing twenty twenty two. But now I think
the pendulum has swung a bit too far in the
other direction and he's become one of the more old
valued players in fantasy football. He averaged ten yards per
catch and or has averaged ten yards per catch and

(42:07):
seven yards per target over the last two years, which
isn't great. He scored four touchdowns in each of the
last two seasons, and he has fifteen total touchdowns in
sixty two career games, so he did get heavy target
volume last year, although much of the year was played
with Gardner Minshew. And you have to think that the
running volume for the Colts is going to be up

(42:29):
with Anthony Richardson a quarterback, of the passing volume is
going to be down and you're left with a guy
who doesn't hit on a lot of big plays and
doesn't score many touchdowns. If that passing volume and target
volume for Pittman is curtailed, he's going to take a
hit as far as his value. And so yeah, I

(42:50):
just plus, we're talking about the possibility of the Colts
getting either a wide receiver or like if brock Bauers
were to fall to them at fifteen, maybe adding a
pass catcher so Pittman might have additional target competition. I
would happily take pick one oh seven or one await
in a rookie draft for Pittman if anyone wanted to

(43:12):
give me that.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
And if I had Pittman on a.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
Roster with like wide receiver firepower to spare, I would
absolutely swap him out for like Kenneth Walker or some
other player of that ILK can I like, I think
I could get Kenneth Walker for Pittman in most leagues.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Yeah, I think I think that's a good one.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
I mean, for as much as everybody's really excited about
Anthony Richardson as a fantasy quarterback, still a huge unknown
about what he is as an NFL passer. We barely
got to see it last year, he was already raw
in that regard coming in, you know, inexperience that didn't
get a lot of college starts.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
So they're a huge question mark there.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
Plus, like you mentioned, they might be adding a pass
catcher in the top half of the first round to
take targets away from Pittman. So so I'm with you there, Bogman,
what do you think about Pittman? I mean, I want
to wait and see what they do in the because
if they don't take a wide receiver, like if they
go Terry on Arnold or you know, another spot maybe
O Line, whatever it is, then now I'm starting to

(44:10):
go Okay, well we're back to it's Alec Pierce, it's
Josh Downs, and it's Pittman. And Pittman is by far
the number one there, and you know, maybe this whole
offense opens up with under Richardson. So I think it
really depends on what the Colts do. If they take Mitchell,
if they take Brian Thomas, a wide receiver, very high.

(44:30):
Now I'm much more likely to trade Pittman. But that's
the risk. You know, if you if you trade for
him now, maybe he's cheaper. If you trade him away now,
maybe you get more. So that that's the risk. It's
not what I want to take, but I understand it
for sure. Bugwan, who's your first sell high All right, listen,
the name here is going to jump off the page. Okay,

(44:53):
and uh it's Pukinikua and he's wide receiver eight. And look,
I still have him as a wide receiver one. He's
wide receiver well to me, but I at least want
to see if I can flip him to get one
of those top three wide receivers in this class. If
I could flip Pooka and I could get Harrison, if
I could get Neighbors, and if I could get o'doon say,

(45:15):
I'm doing that. So I know that's not everyone's strategy.
Because Pooka was great last year, but he only had
one fully healthy season over four years in college. He
missed nine games his sophomore season, took a medical red
shirt at Washington, transferred to BYU, played the entire next season,

(45:37):
then missed three more games.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
At the end.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
He's amazing, he's set rookie records. But if I can
flip him and get a ton for him a haul,
especially if my team's not very good, this is a
guy that can maybe get you back multiple pieces right now,
or if I could get if I could replace him
with one of those, what I feel like is a
safer option at wide receiver, because yes, he's great now
and I think he's going to be good, but who

(45:59):
is replacing Stafford. Stafford isn't long for the NFL, right
and you know Cooper cup is still there and he
was hurt a lot last year. There's just a couple
little things pulling at me to where you know, I'm
not selling him for the best offer. That's not what
I'm doing here, but this might be the highest he's
ever gonna be, So I'm at least seeing what I

(46:22):
can get for him right now, and I'm considering offers
that that's That's what I'm saying. So I know this
name is big, it's gonna leap off the page, but
there is a reason behind it. Well, it's it's the
opposite of what we talked about with some of these
by lows, where you're not saying sell Pooka, You're saying
sell Hi. If you can get you know, a haul
or a really really surefire stud piece, then that's worth considering.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Fits. Do you agree?

Speaker 3 (46:47):
Yeah, I mean, Pooka is terrific. He passes the eye
test with flying collars. And I'm not really worried about
Stafford's age or the presence of Cooper Cup but yet,
like there were some injury concerns with him coming out
of college, and those concerns like, now, no one's worried
because he made it through his rookie season and was
used heavily and made it through intact. But I totally

(47:08):
get it, like, if I had other good pieces at
wide receiver, it makes sense to use Puka as trade
bait to maybe get something else fits.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
Let's sick with you for your next so high.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
David Montgomery, And I am not anti Montgomery by any
means quality NFL running back, but I'm inclined to sell
high on a guy who just had thirteen touchdowns the
previous year and is now sharing a backfield with one
of the most dynamic, most explosive young running backs in
the game and jamieer Gibbs. So yes, sure, there is

(47:41):
a role for David Montgomery in the Detroit offense, but
he had fifteen or fewer carries in his last five
games of the season playoffs included, and in nine of
his last twelve So after the Lions were they came
out of the gates and used Montgomery pretty heavily, got
some twenty carry games. Really see the twenty carry games
for him at all down the stretch. Also had a

(48:04):
career low sixteen receptions last year, and there is just
not much pass catching upside for Montgomery with Gibbs around.
So if people want to look at the lofty touchdown
total from Montgomery last season and buy him from me,
I'm happily parting with him.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
All right, Bogman, who's your next cell high? Give me
DeAndre Swift. What's the difference between Swift's first three mediocre
seasons in Detroit and its most successful season last year
in Philly. It's the run blocking. It was third last
year for Swift behind Philly's line. His three seasons in Detroit,
they were sixteenth, twentieth, and ninth. He never earned the

(48:44):
coaching staff's trust in Detroit, he never got the carries,
and so he was out quick. Philly gave him a
year and were so impressed by him that they paid
Saquon Barkley a ton of money to come and be
the new running back in Philly. So I understand that
Chicago paid him. I know that he's going to get

(49:05):
the first crack there, but I don't think he's better
than Roshan and I think he's not much better than
Khalil Herbert, if he's better than Khalil Herbert at all.
This is a guy that I was high on coming in.
I've been supremely disappointed in as a pro and I
am not going to let him getting paid make me
have him as he's right now RB sixteen. I don't

(49:27):
know why he's RB twenty nine to me on my board.
So there's a bunch of rookies I would take over him.
I get that. You know, Caleb Williams is coming in.
They have big improvements on this offense. Maybe he can
score a bunch of touchdowns, but I just don't think
he's that good of a running back. And I would
like to sell him high if I can right now,

(49:48):
because when I was looking at values, I could not
believe he was ranked as high as RB sixteen. Three
mediocre seasons and one good one with the line doing
most of the work. I mean, look, he made guys
tackles a bunch, but it's because he got to that
second level instead of being tackled by lineman he was
being or linebackers. He's being tackled by corners in safeties

(50:10):
more last year. So for me, I'm selling DeAndre Swift
quickly if I can. Yeah, Fits, I agree with Boglin
wholeheardly here, what do you think? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (50:22):
And even though the numbers overall were really good last year,
it was basically he just had those two monster games
early and then after that the numbers were just pretty
good and not great. So like everything was kind of
frontloaded with him last year. So I'm with Bogs like
I think. Plus the fact that the Bears rolled out

(50:43):
a big contract for him, while at least big by
running back standards.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
Maybe that has a lot of people over appraising him.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Who's your next cell high fifth?

Speaker 4 (50:55):
Oh, it's for Shehi Rice.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
And this is not entirely about the knucklehead factor with
Rice being involved in this street racing incident, the details
of which we don't need to get into because I
think everyone's been getting those details ad nauseum over the
last week or so. But this is more about the
sustainability of what Rice did last year, and there's no

(51:17):
denying that he had a really nice rookie season, seventy
nine catches, nine hundred and thirty eight yards, seven touchdowns
in the regular season, plus the big game against Miami
and the playoffs one hundred and thirty yards in a touchdown. There,
my buddy Andrew Cooper a fantasy alarm head an interesting
point that the Chiefs through sixty nine screen passes to

(51:38):
wide receivers and tight ends last year. No other team
had more than fifty one wide receiver and tight end screens,
and the Chiefs had fifty three screens to wide receivers alone,
and most of them were going to Rashie Rice. And
a big reason for that is that the Chiefs had
so little firepower a receiver other than Rashie Rice, and

(51:58):
Rice is really just this short area catch and run guy,
at least so far. Like his average depth of target
last year was four point eight yards. He he was
just doing the little, you know, screens hitches. The Chiefs
didn't have another receiver capable of consistently getting opened downfield,

(52:19):
and now they've got Marquise Brown and they're probably gonna
draft at least one wide receiver from one of the
best wide receiver classes we've seen in some time. I
think Rice's role is going to be diminished, and it
wouldn't surprise me if his rookie season turned out to
be one of the best of his entire career. So
if I had Rice on a Dynasty team and I
have no shares of him anywhere, so this is purely hypothetical,

(52:42):
I would try to move him, but I'd probably wait
a couple of weeks until the it doesn't look like
you're panic selling after the Dallas street racing incident.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
Yeah, I think this is another really fair one. I mean,
Bogman fits laid it out. But let's say Kelsey staves
off father time for another year, they added Hollywood, who's
now playing with the best passing quarterback he's ever had.
Let's say they draft like one of your Texas guys
at the end of the first round. All of a sudden,
there might actually be some mouths to feed in case.
He not even to mention the legal issues here. So

(53:16):
what kind of trades If you agree that he's a
sell high, what would you be looking for, Bogman in
a trade with Rice? Yeah, I want to get I
want to get at least one of those second level
wide receivers from this class, Like, you're not getting a
top three obviously, you know. That's what I said, I
want to trade Puka for and Puka is way more
valuable than Rashi Rice, especially now, but I think this

(53:36):
is just such a bad time to trade him because
of the street racing thing, right that is, like I
think this is probably a good sell high, but now
because of this incident. Now, look if they come back
and they say, yeah, no one was really terribly hurt
in this. It was stupid, but he was lucky, you know,
and he gets whatever, a three game suspension or whatever,

(53:59):
then sell him, right, but it could be more than that.
I don't know all of the details. I know it's gross.
I know it doesn't look good for the young man here,
but it's just tough. It's just such a tough spot.
So let the dust settle. I think, on at least
the legality before you sell him. But then it's tough because,
like you said, if they do add someone in the draft,

(54:21):
his value is going to go down a little bit more.
So I said before, I'm not that impressed with this
Marquise Brown signing. I think he had had a good
system in Arizona, had a good quarterback, in Arizona, and
he still didn't make it work. Mahomes is the best
quarterback by a lot that he'll play with, but I
just don't know if Brown is ever going to put
it together. So I still like Rice. It would have

(54:42):
been a good time to sell him, but now it's
just tough after this whole incident in Dallas, So not fun.
Bog mean your next sell high, give me ty J
Spears here and The split for running backs under OC
Brian Callahan in Cincinnati were as follows. Twenty nineteen mix
and two hundred and seventy eight carries to fifty three

(55:02):
for Bernard. Twenty twenty, mixing was hurt. He only started
six games, but in those games he averaged nineteen pointy
eight carries per game.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Bernard the backup eleven point two.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
In the ten games he started, he had like a
couple more carries than mixing overall twenty twenty one back
to two ninety two for mixin fifty five for p
Ryan because Bernard was washed twenty twenty two two ten
to ninety five and he missed four games, and then
in twenty three uh two point fifty seven for mixing
down to forty four for Chase Brown. So look, Taylor

(55:33):
was calling the plays. It wasn't Callahan, but they installed
the whole game plan together. They liked to rely on
one running back. It seems they paid Tony Pollard. Ty
J Spears was here when Callahan came in. It's not
a guy that he was, you know, pounding the table
for and Pollard was the big signing.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
You know, Fitz has mentioned before about the knee stuff
with ty J Spears as well. There's just too many
little things stacking up here for me to value J.
Spears as high as he is. I know Pollard had
a disappointing season, but after he got over the injury,
he was much better down the stretch. So for me,
I just don't want to mess with Tij Spears right now.

(56:11):
I'd like to trade him if he is valued as
a low end RB two right.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Now quickly fits. What are you doing with Spears?

Speaker 3 (56:19):
Yeah, I mean, like if I had him, I don't know.
I mean it feels like I don't know if you're
selling high after the Pollard signing. But yeah, like I've
I'm worried that the knee thing, Like maybe he does
have one really good season in him. A La jay
Ajai who had that great season and then totally turned
into a pumpkin. But now that Pollard is there, like

(56:40):
any hope we had of TAIJ. Spears getting feature usage
is pretty much out the window. So yeah, I wouldn't
have much use for him.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Fits.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
I'm curious to hear your explanation for the next player
you want to talk about, because I'm not sure how
they could be sold high.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
Oh yeah, it's not even a cell high, it's just
a cell. It's Sam Howell. And if you to get
a berloniya a Baloney sandwich, pocket change whatever.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
Did I What did I say last week?

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Not even a Blooney sandwich, just as the bolooney is fine, exactly.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
I would take a third round rookie pick for Sam
Howell in a super flex league if I could get it,
and maybe you couldn't a super flex just because Sam
Holl did lead the league worm in pass attempts last
year with six hundred and twelve, and yet he was
quarterback twenty in Fantasy points per game, at least among
quarterbacks who started six games minimum, because he'd be twenty

(57:33):
two otherwise if you added Anthony Richardson and Joe Flacco.
Holl also led the league in sacks with sixty five. This, dude,
it's just a sack magnet and taking that many sacks
is just completely ruinous. We saw what taking sacks did
to justin fields value in Chicago and down the stretch,
Howl just completely fell apart over his last five starts,

(57:57):
three touchdowns, eight interceptions, fifty one point six percent completion
percentage at average four point eight yards per attempt, which
is just those are the numbers of a guy who's
going to be starting in the Canadian Football League in
a couple of years. So, but ten weeks, ten weeks
into the twenty twenty three season, Sam Hall was the
QB three in fantasy scoring. So if there's anyone in

(58:19):
your league who remembers the good times, baby, sell him
for a third round.

Speaker 4 (58:24):
Rookie Peck in a super Flax league.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Bogman, I'm not even going to ask you about how
to sell high on a quarterback ranked outside the top
thirty two in our consensus dynasty. Wait for Gino to
get hurt, and then when he's playing, you trade him.
That's what I would do. Don't even trade him after
he plays, Trade him like the day Gino gets hurt
and yes, before the next game, bogwin, who's your next
cell high? Christian Kirk going off at wide receiver thirty

(58:48):
five not really a cell high, but he's just valued
too high for what he is. I think he's only
twenty seven, but that clock has been running fast. The
Jags had it ridley last year, and they seem to
keep trying to add talent because they don't really buy
into the contract that they gave Kirk. They signed gave
Davis Devin Duvernet. A lot of mock drafts have them,

(59:10):
you know, taking a wide receiver early, if not a corner.
There's a couple needs on this team, of course, but
maybe I'm wrong, but I would at least put him
on the block. I would take so many of the
rookies over him. So if I could get you know,
a late two in early three, maybe even I might
be moving off Kirk and his finishes. He had a
wide receiver twenty finish and this is you know, points

(59:35):
per game in twenty two, but thirty three, thirty seven
and fifty five thirty two, fifty one. He flirts between
a wide receiver five and a wide receiver three there's
not meat on the bone. There's no upside here. So
if someone is wide receiver needy and can give you
a low end second round pick or you know a
high or you know, mid second round pick, that cost
is too much. It's too much for Kirk, but you

(59:56):
might be able to get it. So because people look
at him as number one with Vin Ridley gone, So
I'm looking to sell him right now while I can. Yeah, Pat,
I mean you have Kirk what wide receiver thirty seven?
It looks like in your Dynasty rankings kind of a
weird spot for trades or it's like, you know he
will start weeks for you at that ranking, you know,
particularly to get into Buie weeks and with injuries, but

(01:00:18):
you know, not like a particularly appealing, you know, asset
to go out and try and get. Are you trying
to trade him in leagues where you have him? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
No, I mean I'd be more inclined to trade for
him maybe. And it's funny, we probably haven't talked about
Christian Kirk that much on the show, and it sounds
like maybe I like him a little bit more than Bogs,
But I know we're kind of up against it on
time We'll table the Christian Kirk conversation for now and
come back to it, but I'm not necessarily looking to
sell him. Who's your last cell High That's Nick Chubb.

(01:00:50):
He's had an awesome career, one of the best pure
runners of the last decade. But I am fading the
injury recovery optimism on a twenty eight year old high
mileage running back who's coming off a torn ACL, torn MCL,
torn meniscus, an injury that took two surgeries to repair.
And Chubb had also sustained a major knee injury in

(01:01:10):
college in twenty fifteen when he towards MCLPCL and LCL
plus had some cartilage damage. I love the guy, but
I'm totally out on Chobb in dynasty after last year's injury.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
You know, I will say it might sound surprising people
who agree with you, like, oh, that injury was so
terrible and he's an aging running back, how would anybody
be interested by him? We had a Bold Predictions episode
earlier this week with myself, Debro and Erickson, and I
asked the audience to, you know, tweet us some of
their predictions, and one of them was something to the
effective Nick Chubb will be a top ten running back

(01:01:43):
this season, So there are folks out there who are
buying in the injury recovery optimism. He's ranked RB twenty
eight in our early ECR, you know, which is Dynasty still,
so you know you can judge how much that's been updated.
But I just, yeah, I don't know how you could
possibly feel good about trying to acquire him, But you

(01:02:04):
might have somebody in your league that is just a
huge fan loves watching him run and thinks, you know,
he's young enough that he can bounce back.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Bogwen, what do you make a Chubb right now?

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Yeah, this is one of those ones that I was
jealous that fit Scott to the page before me, because
I absolutely agree with the selling him right now. It's
Nick Chubb is a awesome running back, but this knee
entry was brutal. He makes a lot of money. He's
a cut candidate still. I think, you know, I thought
he would be cut by now, so he's probably just

(01:02:32):
going to restructure and be fine for June first and
all that stuff. But you know, I thought Jerome Ford
did a good job. They brought in Deontay Forman as well,
who's a decent backup, So I just don't know. I
don't know that we get the Nick Chubb that we're
used to seeing. So I'm agree. I will agree on
selling him.

Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
It was such a bad injury that I saw the
I don't think they even showed it on TV at
the day.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
They didn't know it was against the Twitter.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
Of course you could find the video on Twitter. I
watched it that like, that was the only time I've
watched it. I've never wanted to see that again. It
was a bad enough injury.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
I tweeted something from the from the Fantasy pros account
that was like a very earnest like this is terrible,
what a fun player to watch.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
Hope he recovers.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
And people were like like emotional, they're like mad about it,
Like they were like, uh like to like like as
if it was a joker something, which she definitely wasn't,
And it was like, I'm just like, I want to
watch Nick Chubb run.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
He's so fun as a running back.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
I just yeah, a huge, huge fan and that was
such such a crusher to see last season. By the way,
He's RB twenty three in our early twenty twenty four rankings.
RB twenty eight in our Dynasty rankings right now, I
think it's too high. In both Bogman Final Sell high
Jerry Judy was wide receiver fifty one, but I don't

(01:03:45):
see that. I don't think that that is how he
has been perceived after being traded to Cleveland. I mean,
we just mentioned Nick Chubb, right, people are saying, well,
Nick Chubb is down, Cooper's older, We're gonna get Watson back.
They got Judy and they extended him. I just don't
believe in Judy even a little bit. He suffered through

(01:04:08):
some truly awful quarterback play. But when a guy like
Courtland Sutton can make it work, I don't have any
excuses for Judy. Judy was ninety second in PFF receiving
grave last year, one hundred and fifty first of one
hundred and fifty three I think, or something and contested
catch percentage. He can't separate. He was eighty five of

(01:04:28):
ninety four wide receivers against man coverage. He was middle
of the road against zone. He can run after the
catch a little bit, he can find the hole in
the zone. But unless effort is the problem, and I
don't think it is, He's a middle of the pack
wide receiver that shouldn't be useful for more than a
bench level, and I think some people are gonna see

(01:04:49):
him as more than that because he's a buzzy name
that got traded and then got extended by Cleveland. So
I'm completely off of the Jerry Judy train. Yeah, Fits,
I'm curious to your opinion here before we up. And
it's not just like the pedigree or the fact that
he was traded. It's the fact that they did kind
of pay him. You know, in a market where mid
level receivers aren't necessarily always getting paid because you can

(01:05:10):
get the cheaper rookie, especially in a class like this,
we were surprising that they didn't just wait and take
one right like that was Yes, I agree, And so
it's confusing to me. And it's the only thing that
gives me pause from being overly pessimistic about Judy, which
is they did pay him, and so you would think
they have plans to utilize them and help them like
break out to a different degree. Or maybe that's just

(01:05:33):
kind of being overly optimistic.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
What do you think, Fits, I don't think we should
be confused about it. I think the Browns front office
just made a colossal blunder giving him that sort of money.
And you know, Boggs was very nice and not questioning
Jerry Judy's effort, but we know Steve Smith was not
as diplomatic when discussing Jerry Judy's effort, like, and I

(01:05:55):
kind of agree with Steve Smith on that. So I
don't know, Like I was really excited about Judy coming
up to college. I thought this was the guy who
was going to be an exceptional route runner and really
extraordinary after the catch. I haven't really seen a lot
of that, So I'm I'm with Bogs. I'm just out
here And if anyone wants to like follow the money
and believe that Jerry Judy is going to be this

(01:06:15):
impactful guy in Cleveland, have at it. Give me a
late second or even in early third, and I'd be thrilled.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
We will get out of there on that. Thank you
everybody for listening to this supersized episode of Bilo Sell
High Dynasty candidates for Bogman and Fitz, I am Ryan Warmley.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
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