August 21, 2023 • 35 mins
It's a CLASSIC story!
Boy meets boy on the set of a TV sitcom. A bromance blooms, and a chart-topping boy band is born! Malcolm Kelley, one-half of the platinum-selling duo MKTO, opens up about his fateful meeting with Tony Oller, making the transition from actor to musician, hearing their hit song "Classic" on the radio for the first time, to joining Taylor Swift on stage!!
Malcolm also reveals the reasons behind their split (both times) to now working on new music as a solo artist!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bass, an iHeartRadio podcast. Hello,
my little Peanuts, it's me your host, Lance Bass. This
is Frosted Tips with Me, your host Lance Bass, and
Turkey Turchin, my lovely co host and also husband. Hello,
there are you today, Turkey fantastic. Yeah, you're having a
(00:25):
good day, a great day.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
It's a great day to have a great day. It
is that you know everyone listening right now. When you
wake up in the morning, you always tell yourself in
that mirror it is a great day to have.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
A great day. And then you have a great day.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
You have a great day.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
You know there's going to be some little probably downs
during the day, but it's still gonna be a great
day at the end.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Of the day.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
You remember that, or at least you just tell yourself,
you just remember that. I feel like there was something
that I wanted to tell everyone. There was something I
was like, Ah, I want to talk about this.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
You're cutting banks.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I'm getting bang.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Can you believe? Can you believe?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Forty four years and finally getting I had bangs as
a kid, Remember you did?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I had the total bowl cut.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
You did, I had the quintessential seventies bowl cut, which
I had in the eighties, because you know, down where
I'm from, we're like ten days years.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
A decade behind the times.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah, so pictures of me when I'm six years old
looks like it's nineteen seventy three.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yeah, a little bit. Someone to o. TMZ just posted.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
A picture he'd like smiling. By the way, if you.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
See any of my family photos at Easter, you know
where we're like dressed up in our church attire, it
looks like a horror movie because it looks a little
too innocent.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Yes, your mom came straight from the set of Little
House in the Prairier.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Very Little House on the Prairie. But just you're like,
there's no way this family is not there's demon possessing
and going on there, especially that little kid with a
bull cut.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
It's like children on the stairs that movie. Go into
your house.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Children of the Corn are that too?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Yeah? Oh you and your so there were definitely.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Corn corn with our like head white hair. Oh yeah, yeah,
we yeah, it was scary.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yeah, you died. It's definitely probably course.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
TMZ post one of those Easter pigs and it just
it just it's scary. To me, but it's really cute.
It is cute the most horrific way and the worst
way possible. Somehow it ends up being cute. Well, that's
not what I wanted to talk about, but you know,
that'll just have to do. It's a conversation because we
have to get to our guest today.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Actually be doing something. We can talk about. What we
can talk about. How we went to Taylor Swift concert.
Oh and the Kelly Clarkson concert.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
My god, how well did I bury that?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah, okay, So a couple of weeks ago we had
an epic one we did Okay, So we start off
with the t Swift show on Friday Airs. It's so
Fie Stadium. We went with friends, We did the whole thing.
We made friendship bracelets, we made tons of friends.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I dressed that Era's outfit. Yeah, what er were you?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I was a love, Yes, you were lover and you
were speak now I was speaking now. But lavender, Hayes,
I mean I was full on lavender. And I think
if there was a competition for best stressed, I would
have gotten the boy best dressed.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Just wow, he's a confident man. No.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I was just told that several times. So I'm just
repeating what other people are saying. Many people are saying, well,
it's a good people picked that outfit up for you.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
You did.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
It was your jacket, and it's our jacket. Our jacket,
very good, That's what it was.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Just my styling.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
You do style me, well, thank you, thank you. You
will too though you're both great stylists. See see he
tried to give me the compliment, but then he had
to give it to himself, as if we're equal stylists.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
I'm sorry, I'm never going to give that to you. Lance,
I'm never going to give that to you. You like
to think you're the stylist of the relationship, but you
are not.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
I am a good you're not. You might be a
better one. No, you might be a better but I'm
a good style. I pick out a lot of that.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
You're like, oh, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I'm always very honest, like, nope, those shoes are not
going with that. You gotta do this this slash. I'm
very good at finalizing an outfit. Fine, I do fine touches, okay,
just to make it perfect pop.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
So anyway, I digress. Taylor Swift was awesome.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Let's move on. Kelly Clark's in the thing I.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Love about Taylor's concert was that it is everyone there
is just so happy. I've never been to a concert
where everyone was just smiling and having the best time.
And I'm talking about to the concession stand people, to
the security.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Everyone was just so happy.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
They're like welcome to so fire, you know, naming their
favorite T Swift song. All the security and concession stand
people were collecting bracelets too, So it was it was
just a fun moment, Like it really was. Everyone's in
a good mood. She put on a spectacular show. Oh
you you know, every song is a major hit. Girls
(04:50):
got some hits. She got some hits, She got some hits.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
The world did.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, So it was really fun.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
And the next day go to Friends of bur Day
in Vegas.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
We go to Helen Clark.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
The next night, we were supposed to go to Katie
Perry that I to T Swift. So we if we
would have gotten that all in we've gotten three pop
princesses and a whole weekend.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I don't think we could handle.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I would have just died.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah, So we missed Katie, but we did get to
Kelly Clarkson, which is kind.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Of the opposite of what t Swift is.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yes, because hers is a intimate show and she just
sits there with her band and she tells stories, and
she cries and she messes up.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
And and she serves.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
That girl can sing.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Oh god, I mean it's just so good.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Definitely, I would say top five vocalists, my top five.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Favorite she's always been, would be your top five.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
See, I got Kelly in there there, I have already
on a Grande yeah, And I have celenon Celene, and
I have Jesse j.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Oh yeah, Jesse j And I think Tory.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Kelly kellyble mentions right in there.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
And I'm sure I'm missing some of course, obviously, like yeah,
but no, not even yeah, but those are my my
off I feel like there's someone missing though, Well I'm
not listening, so I'm sorry, person that's probably not listening
to the show.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Well, you know what, they can be very like India.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Red love it.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
She would be like top twenty. I don't know if
she's on my top five, but I do love that.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I'm letting India already now and have been taking.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
All right, when we come back, we're gonna have Malcolm
David Kelly that's right, m K t O.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I love this man.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yes, man, they got some they got some bops.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
They have some classic songs and.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Their current what it's nice. You know, it's nice to
know some iconic band members, but it's it's fun to
have someone that's like, oh, you.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Just have a song in the wrong. I actually heard
that on the radio recently.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
All right, guys, So when we come back, we're gonna
have mister Malcolm Kelly. All right, welcome back to the show. Everyone,
(07:05):
all right, we have the man, the myth the legends here.
Malcolm David Kelly's an American rapper, singer, songwriter, and actor
from bell Flower, California, best known for portraying the character
Walt Lloyd on ABC series Lost and as one half
of the pop duo m K t O, which we love.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Welcome, Welcome to the show. Thank you, thank you, thank
you guys for having me. What's going on?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
I mean, it's good. I'm so glad that we have
because we cover the gamut on the show with all
group members from every decade, but now we have someone
that's actually current.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
So what's it like being relevant these days?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Man, So you're you're so talented. But let's take it
back to the beginning. So, bell Flower, California. What was
it like growing up in that town? And did you
always know that you had talent?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Man?
Speaker 5 (07:55):
You know, just just being in Beflo, California, right next
to Long Beach, just being the kids, you know, listening
to all type of music, you know, growing up on
snoop and definitely listening to your guys is you know,
and I mean no, I mean, but I'm just saying,
like that's that's just the influence, like the radio, like
you know, my mom would turn on kids or you
know what I'm saying, whatever the case may be. I'm
in Loan Beast, so that's just what I was around.
(08:15):
But I loved all music, you know what I'm saying. So,
I mean that was just a start to just opening
me up to everything. The music video was just like
it was crazy, you know what I'm saying. That's kind
of what dropped me into the you know, the acting
and stuff like that a little bit. But yeah, I
mean I think that just opened the doors up to
just like, Yo, this is this is dope. I want
to be a creative, I want to do these type
of things and how supportive. Was your family they were
(08:38):
they were they were supportive. You know, they're very supportive.
You know, just let me, you know, be a kid.
You know what I'm saying. I think that's very important,
not really shutting down. You know what I'm saying that
the kids just mine, you know, just letting them be them,
being themselves. So, you know, my family was very big
on that, you know, just let me be me. When
I wanted to do something, you know, they were they
(08:59):
were very advocate let me do it.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, where your acting career definitely took you into music.
So when did you know that you were musically talented?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, I'm still young.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
You know, I was in high school performing at the
high school shows, and you know, with my friends, we
were always making music. We had the what was that
not logic it's a garage band on on the mac
when it first came out, or just recording, you know,
to cassette tapes on the radio, making our own little
radio stations, like just going crazy. When YouTube first came out,
We're doing lips and music videos, you know what I'm saying.
(09:31):
So music was always the thing. I just love to perform,
love to be on stage, loved the feeling it gives off,
you know, and once it got to like creating my
own music, you know, it's just like it was something.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
It was fun.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Man.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
It's also a relief for me, you know what I'm
saying as well, just telling stories and yeah, man, I
just kept going in love with it.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
What songs did you perform in high school? What'd you
do on last?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Oh? Man?
Speaker 5 (09:51):
I mean in high school it was a lot of fun,
turned up party, you know what I'm saying. We like
the party, you know, we performing at all the high
school parties. And now did you have a school, Yeah,
we had, we had to grow. What was the name
you were going crazy? It was a Sad Boys standing
for sex and business, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
So, yeah, man, we're for the ladies.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
You know, you're going crazy turning the party, yuh, you know,
sex and business. But yeah, we were just going crazy,
you know, just just being kids, just having fun.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Do you still talk to a lot of the Sad Boys?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, I still I'm still in contact with a lot
of them.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Are you still down there or are you in La?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I moved to North Hollywood. I'm back in Long Beach though.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Okay, nice Long Beach is the ship, I mean anywhere
closer to well, I mean I guess we're close to
the beach here too, but it's so weird to literally
it's just you know, fifteen miles out to be about
LA time. Yeah, sure, yeah, you just it's like, I
forget we're a beach town. Come on, Uh so what
type of okay? You listen to everything growing up because
(10:47):
the radio was just very at.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
That time that time, and there was no YouTube, you
know what I'm saying, So you were just listening.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
You were kind of forced to listen to the radio.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
It's like the TRL era, just like you're forced to
like these top ten songs. You're voting for him, But
if you're song it and get on, you're still forced
to like songs for sure, which you know can be
good in the way. Well, as an artist is good
because you get more people listening to your music. Everything's
so segmented. Everyone has their fans all compartmentalized everywhere.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
That and there's just so many artists now yeah, no,
there's so many streams of music.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Well, thanks of TikTok. Do you like your TikTok?
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Are you? Man?
Speaker 5 (11:24):
You know I'm trying to trying to keep up with
the TikTok. Yeah, there's a lot going on in there
every every second. But but no, I love it though.
I just I love where the game is going. It's evolving,
you know, it's just the powers in your hands. It's
just kind of how you use it, you know what
I'm saying. So, yeah, TikTok is done.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Well.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
You eventually met your friend Tony Aller after working together
on a TV show. Uh Now, who was the first
to suggest making music?
Speaker 5 (11:48):
Like I said at that time when we came together,
like we both find out we love music just just
as much as each other. You know, I'm making music
in my trailer, he's making music in his trailer. A
lot of downtime when you're shooting, so yeah, we're just
coming to each other's trailers or whatever, and you know
you're making this.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Oh, let me throw a verse on that.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Or even when we were we weren't done, you know,
shooting on set, we'd go straight home or I go
to his house, and you know what I'm saying, we're
recording music, you know, all night and just you know,
being bachelors running around the city having a good time.
So it was just a lifestyle and yeah, man, we
just love music.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Well that just is so an authentic way of starting group.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Not many people there they started that way.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Yeah for sure, for sure, Like we didn't get put
together like I don't know, it was, yeah, like we
it was just like, yo, you love music, I love music.
Put some stuff up on YouTube, and you know at
that time, that's when people were kind of getting seen
on YouTube. You know, producers, you never know who's watching
on YouTube, you know what I'm saying. So I guess
he hit up he was trying to do music, so
(12:48):
I guess he hit up a friend and that ended
up finding our videos and they sent that to some
producers and you know that ball started rolling from there.
So but yeah, it just started. You know, we love
music together. So that was pretty pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I mean, you came out swinging with your first hit,
you know, a huge hit, but the second single, classic
was even bigger, which you know, always your sophomore song
and your sophomore album is always hard because you know,
you have to impress everyone a second time and a
lot of times, you know, artists work twenty years to
get that first single out.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
So you know it's good, but then the second one
you're like, oh crap, now what do we do? Yeah,
but y'all killed it, charting Top twenty Billboard Charts, double platinum,
two hundred twenty five million views on YouTube. What did
that feel like?
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Man? Was? It was surreal?
Speaker 5 (13:37):
Like you know, being from Long Beach, like I said,
just seeing everything that I named growing up and always
dreaming about touring or putting out a CD, you know
what I'm saying on my own or like you know,
I never really saw how that would happen, but ended
up meeting Tony and then like doing the whole label
bid thing, like labels bidding for us, trying to figure
out what we're gonna get signed to, and meeting our producers.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Well, how did that process go down? How did you decide?
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Because you know now people don't even sign with labels anymore. Yeah,
but you know, back in our day, you were fighting
for a label and you'd be lucky if one would
look at you. You had lots of labels wanting you, guys,
So how did you end up deciding who you wanted
to go with?
Speaker 5 (14:19):
It was also you know, the the producers we were
assigned to, you know, they they wrote a lot of
music for a lot of dope artists in the game,
you know, Neo and Helo, Beyonce, just like a lot
of stuff. So they've had a very nice influence in
the game. So the relationships with the with the labels
for them were very easy, you know what I'm saying.
(14:40):
But you know, when they they got down to the business.
So we got a single, let's figure out how we
could do it. So you know, that's that's where they
were at that point. So it was just like, you know,
the labels were definitely trying to get trying to get involved,
so I understood that, but you know, we we definitely
had to do our part and sell the record, you
know what I'm saying. So we're going to three cities
you know a day, you know sometimes and you know
(15:02):
what I'm saying, the white tour bus van, you know
what I'm saying, Like we were really grinding it out.
I know, people think like we're coming from acting and
maybe had like can bring some of that weight with us,
you know and help us on our music journey.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
But now we really had to grind from them from
the ground us.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
It is for sure, for sure, So acting fans are
not music fans.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah, no, it definitely kind of grew into that later.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
You know, I would see people, you know, respecting what
we do, you know, as both of what we do.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
But but yeah, it was a grind.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
So the label bids going up, you know, to whatever
labels and them trying to figure that out, ended up
signing with the label.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
It was just it was just dope, man, the dream
come true.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
And then uh, you know, we signed with the label
for certain reasons and with our producers, you know, they
had their vision for us, you know as well when
we're young, so you know we were kind of overlooking
that a little bit. But uh, you know that's the
name of the game, you know what I'm.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Saying, we have to trust them.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Yeah, sure, career, yeah, you know, and they did great.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
They did great, you know, getting into you know, top
ten on Billboard Classic, like touring all over the world,
opening for Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I know we were talking about her. She brought us
out of Jellette stage. Which tour did you do with Taylor? Well,
she just she was like doing a tour.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
She was paying homage to certain songs she liked, so
she would bring our artists to come perform those songs.
So classic was a song she liked, and uh, we
almost missed the show, like she was performing at jel
At Stadium and uh, she had one night, but we
were like touring and running around. But we made the
second show and yeah, she brought us up on the riser, Like.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
So you got to perform in the stadium. Yeah, yeah, okay,
the first time.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Please tell me what that moment is the first time
you step out in front of seventy thousand people.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
Oh my god, it was like crazy, It was crazy. Well,
you know, we don't even think we did like a
sound check. Yeah, I'm not sure if we did a
sound check, but.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
It was so much different from when all the people
were out there, you know, just screaming and going crazy,
different level of noise. It's so so wild. I just
wanted to take my in ears out and just enjoy,
just enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
You know.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
She brought let us come out on the riser, so
we came out from under the stage.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
It was just that was for you. Do you remember
your first Yeah, I know you.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I'm like, that's why I have goosebumps right now because
I know I remember that feeling. And you'll always remember
it because it was opening up for Jana Jackson. Yeah,
a rope tour and it was the Detroit Stadium super
Dome and yeah, we come out and you just get
this wave of this noise and then you get goosebumps
and they don't go away.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yeah, they just don't go away.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
It is turns in the energy dancing. It was great. Bro.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Do you remember the first time you heard your song
on the radio, because that that's a moment.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I think everyone is.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Like Tony and I we were in the car going
I don't know where we were going, but we were
on the road somewhere. Knew it was playing, and he
was you know, made sure the radio station was on,
and you know, we were just going crazy in the car.
I think it might have been like nighttime, you know
what I'm saying. We were just we were just going crazy.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Bro.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
You know that's that moment, you know, the first time
the songs the radio we're listening to, He's out, We're
just we're going crazy.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
So yeah, I never forget that.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
He probably knows where we were, like where we were going,
but but yeah, I just knew we were in the
car going crazy.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
That was That was dope. What about you. You remember the
first time we were in Germany.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
We lived over there the first couple of years, and
but we were separated into two vans, so there was
three of us in one car and two and the other.
And I guess we had just left a radio station
and so we had the radio on. We're just hoping
that we would hear it, and it played, and oh
my gosh, we were but we were also children, right,
We were definitely just goof balls. And I remember there
(18:32):
every van was stuffed with stuffed animals because over in Europe,
if you go on stage, you're gonna leave with five
hundred stuff down. Okay, that was just that. So we're
all like making that stuffed animals dance and we're trying
to like, you know, communicate between the cars.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
So yeah, so yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
And it just sounds so much better on the.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Radio radio right a little bit.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
It's just like it's just that you should always listen
to a song, Yeah, for sure. All right, reflecting on
the ten years the song, ten years later, what do
you think it was or why do you think it
was such a massive hit? Why does it resonate with
so many people?
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Yeah? Ten years it doesn't even know. This song like
just came out.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
It's true, but I'm telling you that's that COVID thing.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Time just warped, like we lost the good four years
of forward.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
It trips me out when people are like, yeah, I
was listening to that was my jam in high school.
I'm like, yeah, okay, but now ten years man, not,
I don't know. It's beautiful, but I think just like
you know, when the record was written, and when you
write the record with different people, you just get to
tap into so many different people, you know, in different genres,
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different age groups. So I think that was a key
thing for the song. Like so many people love it,
like you at the shows, you see the kids loving it,
the parents can sing along to it, the references Michael
Jackson's It's just so many, so many little cool things.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
It's the upbeat song.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
It feels good, yeah in summer.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
So it's like the quintessential, like this is the song
of the summer.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Yeah, Like it's a little jam. It's a jam for sure.
So yeah, man, it's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
So you guys, you go on tour, you release more music,
your debut album EP. But in twenty seventeen, you announced
a split which only lasted for a year. So go
through this? Why why you take your break?
Speaker 3 (20:27):
You know we were going through I mean it was
just a hell of a roller coaster.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Of an experience, you know, just jumping into that world
and not really knowing what to expect. But you know
it it was a I don't know, man, I can't
really speak for him. You know, Tony was going through
some things as well, and yeah, so I really don't
know what was his initial like thing to.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Oh so it was his idea to take a break.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
I mean, yeah, he wanted to take a break, you
know what I'm saying, or whatever the case may be.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
And how don't feel about that? I mean you red
or you just supportive? It was what it was.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Yeah, you know I was kind of you know, yeah,
I was like, yeah, that's cool. I wanted to go
off and do some other you know, kind of get
back into the acting and do that thing. Like, uh,
I didn't mean to like go away so abruptly, but
you know kind of when I jumped into the music,
you know, I really didn't uh, you know, have the
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my acting side there, like I should have, just to
make sure everything was you know, running you know, kind
of parallel to each other, but you know, just going
off and doing the music. You know, it was a
great thing though, so it kind of was you know,
taking his time. You know, we were torn just like
so much, so you know, just not being away like acting,
you get to go away for a little bit, come home,
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you know, just toring you on the road.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
It's like it's it's a baseball year around, you know,
so that it is very comparable base just always on
the road. We have that many shows in a week
for sure.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
For sure.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
Christmas, we've got to be in New York for the
Christmas Parade on Christmas Day while everybody's watching it.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Like you know, it's just you know, a different world
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
So and I know we I would love to talk
to about your acting stuff. But as everyone knows, we
are on strike now. Yeah, SAG after WGA, So everyone
police support all us, Yes, support because it is it
is uh, you know, it's just sad what they've done
to our community.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
And I don't know if I've said this on the
show before, but I'll say it again. Eighty seven percent
of the SAG actors can even qualify for insurance which
is only twenty six thousand dollars a year for sure,
So eighty seven percent of an industry is making under
twenty six it's making under twenty six thousand dollars. How
how is that even legal? Yeah, it's it's just crazy.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
To t us down with, you know, what's going on
with the actors and everybody. So yeah, it needs to
be worked out.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yeah, it's I mean, but you can say that with
every industry, the top one percent gets everything, it gets
even more greedy, and then they're going to try to
you know, take as much as as possible before the
rule changed, and they know the rules are about to change,
so they're just trying to cash out as quickly as possible.
But hopefully we can get this settled quickly because we
all got to get back to work, yes sir, all right,
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so you get back in twenty eighteen. How did that
first conversation happen?
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Who called it? I think he?
Speaker 5 (23:33):
Uh, you know, it's a conversation between us and the producers.
You know, it's like a little bit of you know,
some some alcohol you know involved, so some stuff just
had to be worked out, you know, liquid courage. Yeah,
and just on my end, you know, just like you know,
not wanting to do like certain things or like literal events.
I'm like, bro, this is one of the easiest jobs
in the world, you know, like we can't be not
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wanting to do certain things, you know what I'm saying.
But so yeah, I'm just like, yeah, you ready to go.
I mean it's easy, like you know, but I was
kind of getting back into the acting a little bit,
shooting some stuff. So I was like, but yeah, the
music is this is something I love. You know, I
was gonna do it regardless, like you know, solo, like
this is always something I've loved to do and always
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dreamed about doing. But we build something, let's let's keep
it going, you know what I'm saying. Let's do what
we you know, got to do. The fans want it
like it's it's all right there, like it's easy, so
let's get it done.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
You know.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
I kind of was pushing the thing, like, you know,
we can both still let's do some solo stuff as well,
like you know, I know that's kind of what we
both dreamed, Like you know what I'm saying. We never
really envisioned of being a group, you know when we
were you know, not when we haven't met. So you know,
let's let's not let that vision go away, even though
we built a great thing, you know, so it's just
trying to figure things out. I was like, let's figure
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it out, let's jump back into it. Yeah it was easy.
It wasn't really and.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
You were making you were releasing music till twenty twenty.
Then COVID happens, assuming and you haven't done any music yet.
Are we going to have anything soon that we could
listen to?
Speaker 5 (25:03):
No, sir, you know, just growing up and kind of
understanding the business. You know, we're kind of talking about
the acting and you know, uh, you know, just a
lot of stuff has to get changed as well. You know,
the music is a whole nother you know, beast itself,
you know, where things have to get figured out. So yeah,
just understanding that and you know, uh, just kind of
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understanding the business a little more and fighting on that.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
You know, on that end, it just.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
It just wasn't you know, it wasn't you know, Yeah, yeah,
it wasn't worth it, bro for sure.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Well.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Uh, in the meantime, you haven't worked on your soulo music. Yeah,
you're just released an EP earlier this year.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
So how does it feel to work on music that's
totally your own?
Speaker 2 (25:48):
It's dope.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
You know, Tony and I were doing that as well,
you know, just making music are our own and releasing it.
But you know, when you get with the label, you
know they want to be involved, they want to produce
them on it, right, they got to it. Yeah, so
you know that kind of takes the fun out of
it of creating a little bit. But you know, they
were letting us write a little bit here and there.
So but yeah, just doing it on my own is great.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Man.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
I just love to create and you know, but even
in that, just learning how to collaborate with writers and
different people, with different producers.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
So still doing that and it's been awesome.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Bro, Who is the who is the producer that you
want to work with? If you had just anyone? Oh man,
man Toddy Dolla sign. Leon Thomas is definitely coming up
right now. He was on a couple.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
Uh he was an actor as well, and he's also
a musician, very very talented writing for everybody right now,
So I love to work with him. Who else uh
bands for real?
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Uh man, It's just so many dope people. There's so
many minds crazy? Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
What do you think of about writers now?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Because there's there's so many songs now that have fifty
people as credited, right right, Yeah, you know it's like
doctor Frankenstein is just making all these songs. What do
you think about these major collaps with fifty different writers?
Speaker 5 (27:16):
I mean it can be a headache sometimes. I mean
I guess it feels like it's cheating.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Yeah, and on the splits.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
But that's what I'm saying, like, yeah, you get that
many powerful writers in the room, like who are specialized
just the top line of the.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Bridge or you know, just the melody.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Oh yeah, yeah, you better get it better because no
one's taking nothing.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Yeah exactly exactly, but yeah, not that many people.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Maybe like yeah or yeah it's a good numb Max,
that's a good number. Yeah, yeah, don't go crazy for sure.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
All right, Turkey here is gonna love this. But you
have worked with Celindion.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Your featured on the song Save Your Soul for a
twenty thirteen album Loved Me Back to Life. It was
on the vinyl version, which vinyl is huge. Again, how
did this happen? What was it like working with Selin.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
That was our producers you know, like I said, they've
worked with a lot of the great people. Uh so
I think that they've worked with her, you know previously before.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
And you know they were trying to figure out.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
Some somebody to do the verse, and you know it
was in house, so you know, they blessed me and
let me do it. So I was I was excited.
You know, I didn't get to meet her while we
recorded the record, but but yeah, that was dope.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
That's still cool to be a part of it.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
All Right, what's next for you? We got more music,
more acting?
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yeah, more music, more acting? What's that?
Speaker 3 (28:34):
You know everything's figured out on that end?
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Uh, Like where do you see like the next ten years?
Where's your perfect world?
Speaker 5 (28:42):
I've been writing a lot as well, so just throwing
on that hat, you know what I'm saying, Just more ownership.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
So yeah, scripts for the for the TV and the movie.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
You know, I definitely got some some ideas in that film,
in that in that realm.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
So you're you're creative in the film television.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
For sure, for sure. Yeah, that's always.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Been a dream project that you would want to bring up,
that you would like to put in the universe.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
Oh man, Uh, you know, Key Key Palmer has something
that she, you know, what's got going on. You know,
I think, uh, you know, it's just a lot of
us from from that time, uh that.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
We're trying to do something. So I think that's just
going to be big. So your friend.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
We did a movie called Yeah You Did You Did
Want to?
Speaker 5 (29:24):
We worked together a long time ago. But you know,
blessings to her and everything she's got going on. But yeah,
we're just going to do something. Shout out kofe uh.
But yeah, it's just something something we're gonna do something
from with the people from our era who kind of
kids love that. But yes, to stay tuned, stay tuned.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
All right, Okay, so I need to frost a tip
from you. What tips do you have for people who
want to pivot in their careers from acting to being
a duo to solo. It seems like you've been able
to navigate it all so smoothly, So do you have
any tips.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Definitely take advantage.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
Of of you know, your social media, I think is
just one of the big things, you know, just kind
of being around you know, just kind of right before
it wasn't here, then right when it was here, and
kind of just trying to understand that transition. And you know,
still learning every day from how the kids, you know,
you utilize TikTok and how they're doing it, and just
(30:20):
being real heavy with the content, you know. Yeah, I
think I think it's all on you.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
You know.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
The more content you push out obviously quality, then you know,
you want to build your fan base and uh, you know,
and if you build a good core, you know, I
think with you know, how people are following you, you know,
they'll be able to follow what you do, you know.
And I think if they like it, they'll mess with it,
you know. And if they like you, you know, they'll support
what you do, you know. So and I just taking
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advantages of that.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
I've noticed that, Yeah, if you want to like get
in the mainstream, you have to go where the teenagers are. Yeah,
and that is right now on TikTok. So I the
smartest thing I ever did was a couple of months ago.
I went to a twenty one year old I know
to help me run my social media. It's been a
game changer. She thinks of things that like I don't.
(31:08):
I'm like, wow, you're and she's so quick at everything.
We can film five TikTok videos in an hour and
she has them edited within the hour.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
It is, it goes over.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
You know, it's just connect she is, I mean for sure,
and she has no idea who in sync is. She
don't know who Whitney Houston is, right, Like, what the hell?
Speaker 2 (31:28):
But you have to but.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
You have to know that that generation thinks that way
if you're going to try to win them over, because
they really are the tastemakers. They're the ones spending the money.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
And parents Yeah well yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Bad parent did not know who Whitney Houston was. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Yeah, you will never understand what it's like to be
a twenty two year old right now, Like you think
that that was just yesterday.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
It feels like I was just twenty two. But Megan's
so much information.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
It's just I mean, it's the whole different world.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
It was like we were born in the fifties to her. Yeah,
that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
That is nuts.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
That is the nineties from that was like our fifties. Yeah,
that's wold, that's just weird.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
That is weird.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
All right.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
I got some fan questions from Jesse McFerrin, What do
you think about your song classic Blowing Up Again?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Thanks to TikTok man.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
That's dope man, Like I said, shout out. You know.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
The challenges. Yeah, no, just keep it going, keep it rocking.
You know, how can I forget or whatever? We'll turn
it out, turned it yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Catherine DC twelve wants to know what are your thoughts
on duos categorized as boy bands. That's a good question because, yeah,
everyone has their own vision of a boy Band's usually
five guys the dance or you know whatever. But two
guys is that considered a boy band?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I always thought it was like a duo.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
Yeah, I mean yeah, because I'm I considered a boy
band more.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Yeah, like right, you can consider it to be multiple
guys like singing dance.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
It's like it's despite the boy version of Spice girls. Yeah,
boy band, but it is definitely evolving.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
People with boy band the band.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yeah, but one direction didn't dance where they have a
boy band.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
You know, nobody they play instruments, the only saying, so
I would say they were a boy They kind of
hopped around.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Yeah, but Hanson, so it all just kind of starts
flowing extra poppy.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Then you're a If you're like not, then you're yeah
not a boy Yeah, the cancer was straight.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Up, yeah, exactly. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I mean, who knows, it's all it's all evolving bands.
I mean when we were a group, there wasn't even
a term called boy were definitely a boy band, yeah,
but we didn't know what that was. We were like, no,
we're boised men. What are you talking about.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
We're a We're RB vocal group. That's what we're like.
Oh no, we're a band.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
All right.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Before we let you go, I have to know what
we are watching right now? What are we listening to?
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Like?
Speaker 1 (33:59):
What's songs do we need to know right now?
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Yeah? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
They could be old classics to like what what gets
you in the mood?
Speaker 3 (34:07):
I'm an R and B guy. I liked a lot
of R and B.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Like Brian McKnight.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
Yeah, old school R and B for sure. Yeah, any
any type of R and B. Yeah, go with that.
I can't really name.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
We'll skip the TV and film because.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Again, well we can't support you, sag you and your
members guys that.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
For a second. Thank you guys so much.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
It was so great to see you and catch up.
I I mean, I know so much about you now,
and I'm so happy that you were able to join us.
We're definitely going to try to get Tony on here
finish up the group. So what do we have to
ask him? Is there something that you're like, Oh, you
got to ask him this?
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Uh, give us some inform.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Let's get him in trouble a little bit.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
He's an open book, I mean something U Yeah, I
love it.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Well, Malcolm Kelly, thank you so much for being on
Frosted tips. How can everyone stay in touch with you
out there?
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (35:08):
At the Red Malcolm on all the socials, Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, threads,
whatever you use.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Oh, we're on threads still. I mean I forge Threads
was like twenty four hours for me because I got
rid of I got rid of Twitter so long ago.
I'm like, you know what, it would be nice to
have something like that again. No, it lasted twenty four hours.
I can't just TikTok Instagram. It's all I got time
for ye at the real Milchael. All right, Malcolm, thank
(35:34):
you so much. We'll talk to you peace. All right, guys,
be good to each other, don't drink a job out there,
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there are you today, Turkey fantastic. Yeah, you're having a
(00:25):
good day, a great day.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
It's a great day to have a great day. It
is that you know everyone listening right now. When you
wake up in the morning, you always tell yourself in
that mirror it is a great day to have.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
A great day. And then you have a great day.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
You have a great day.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
You know there's going to be some little probably downs
during the day, but it's still gonna be a great
day at the end.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Of the day.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
You remember that, or at least you just tell yourself,
you just remember that. I feel like there was something
that I wanted to tell everyone. There was something I
was like, Ah, I want to talk about this.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
You're cutting banks.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I'm getting bang.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Can you believe? Can you believe?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Forty four years and finally getting I had bangs as
a kid, Remember you did?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I had the total bowl cut.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
You did, I had the quintessential seventies bowl cut, which
I had in the eighties, because you know, down where
I'm from, we're like ten days years.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
A decade behind the times.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah, so pictures of me when I'm six years old
looks like it's nineteen seventy three.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yeah, a little bit. Someone to o. TMZ just posted.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
A picture he'd like smiling. By the way, if you.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
See any of my family photos at Easter, you know
where we're like dressed up in our church attire, it
looks like a horror movie because it looks a little
too innocent.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Yes, your mom came straight from the set of Little
House in the Prairier.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Very Little House on the Prairie. But just you're like,
there's no way this family is not there's demon possessing
and going on there, especially that little kid with a
bull cut.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
It's like children on the stairs that movie. Go into
your house.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Children of the Corn are that too?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Yeah? Oh you and your so there were definitely.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Corn corn with our like head white hair. Oh yeah, yeah,
we yeah, it was scary.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yeah, you died. It's definitely probably course.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
TMZ post one of those Easter pigs and it just
it just it's scary. To me, but it's really cute.
It is cute the most horrific way and the worst
way possible. Somehow it ends up being cute. Well, that's
not what I wanted to talk about, but you know,
that'll just have to do. It's a conversation because we
have to get to our guest today.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Actually be doing something. We can talk about. What we
can talk about. How we went to Taylor Swift concert.
Oh and the Kelly Clarkson concert.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
My god, how well did I bury that?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah, okay, So a couple of weeks ago we had
an epic one we did Okay, So we start off
with the t Swift show on Friday Airs. It's so
Fie Stadium. We went with friends, We did the whole thing.
We made friendship bracelets, we made tons of friends.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I dressed that Era's outfit. Yeah, what er were you?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I was a love, Yes, you were lover and you
were speak now I was speaking now. But lavender, Hayes,
I mean I was full on lavender. And I think
if there was a competition for best stressed, I would
have gotten the boy best dressed.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Just wow, he's a confident man. No.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I was just told that several times. So I'm just
repeating what other people are saying. Many people are saying, well,
it's a good people picked that outfit up for you.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
You did.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
It was your jacket, and it's our jacket. Our jacket,
very good, That's what it was.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Just my styling.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
You do style me, well, thank you, thank you. You
will too though you're both great stylists. See see he
tried to give me the compliment, but then he had
to give it to himself, as if we're equal stylists.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
I'm sorry, I'm never going to give that to you. Lance,
I'm never going to give that to you. You like
to think you're the stylist of the relationship, but you
are not.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
I am a good you're not. You might be a
better one. No, you might be a better but I'm
a good style. I pick out a lot of that.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
You're like, oh, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I'm always very honest, like, nope, those shoes are not
going with that. You gotta do this this slash. I'm
very good at finalizing an outfit. Fine, I do fine touches, okay,
just to make it perfect pop.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
So anyway, I digress. Taylor Swift was awesome.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Let's move on. Kelly Clark's in the thing I.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Love about Taylor's concert was that it is everyone there
is just so happy. I've never been to a concert
where everyone was just smiling and having the best time.
And I'm talking about to the concession stand people, to
the security.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Everyone was just so happy.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
They're like welcome to so fire, you know, naming their
favorite T Swift song. All the security and concession stand
people were collecting bracelets too, So it was it was
just a fun moment, Like it really was. Everyone's in
a good mood. She put on a spectacular show. Oh
you you know, every song is a major hit. Girls
(04:50):
got some hits. She got some hits, She got some hits.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
The world did.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, So it was really fun.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
And the next day go to Friends of bur Day
in Vegas.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
We go to Helen Clark.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
The next night, we were supposed to go to Katie
Perry that I to T Swift. So we if we
would have gotten that all in we've gotten three pop
princesses and a whole weekend.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I don't think we could handle.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I would have just died.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah, So we missed Katie, but we did get to
Kelly Clarkson, which is kind.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Of the opposite of what t Swift is.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yes, because hers is a intimate show and she just
sits there with her band and she tells stories, and
she cries and she messes up.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
And and she serves.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
That girl can sing.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Oh god, I mean it's just so good.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Definitely, I would say top five vocalists, my top five.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Favorite she's always been, would be your top five.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
See, I got Kelly in there there, I have already
on a Grande yeah, And I have celenon Celene, and
I have Jesse j.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Oh yeah, Jesse j And I think Tory.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Kelly kellyble mentions right in there.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
And I'm sure I'm missing some of course, obviously, like yeah,
but no, not even yeah, but those are my my
off I feel like there's someone missing though, Well I'm
not listening, so I'm sorry, person that's probably not listening
to the show.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Well, you know what, they can be very like India.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Red love it.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
She would be like top twenty. I don't know if
she's on my top five, but I do love that.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I'm letting India already now and have been taking.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
All right, when we come back, we're gonna have Malcolm
David Kelly that's right, m K t O.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I love this man.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yes, man, they got some they got some bops.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
They have some classic songs and.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Their current what it's nice. You know, it's nice to
know some iconic band members, but it's it's fun to
have someone that's like, oh, you.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Just have a song in the wrong. I actually heard
that on the radio recently.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
All right, guys, So when we come back, we're gonna
have mister Malcolm Kelly. All right, welcome back to the show. Everyone,
(07:05):
all right, we have the man, the myth the legends here.
Malcolm David Kelly's an American rapper, singer, songwriter, and actor
from bell Flower, California, best known for portraying the character
Walt Lloyd on ABC series Lost and as one half
of the pop duo m K t O, which we love.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Welcome, Welcome to the show. Thank you, thank you, thank
you guys for having me. What's going on?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
I mean, it's good. I'm so glad that we have
because we cover the gamut on the show with all
group members from every decade, but now we have someone
that's actually current.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
So what's it like being relevant these days?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Man, So you're you're so talented. But let's take it
back to the beginning. So, bell Flower, California. What was
it like growing up in that town? And did you
always know that you had talent?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Man?
Speaker 5 (07:55):
You know, just just being in Beflo, California, right next
to Long Beach, just being the kids, you know, listening
to all type of music, you know, growing up on
snoop and definitely listening to your guys is you know,
and I mean no, I mean, but I'm just saying,
like that's that's just the influence, like the radio, like
you know, my mom would turn on kids or you
know what I'm saying, whatever the case may be. I'm
in Loan Beast, so that's just what I was around.
(08:15):
But I loved all music, you know what I'm saying. So,
I mean that was just a start to just opening
me up to everything. The music video was just like
it was crazy, you know what I'm saying. That's kind
of what dropped me into the you know, the acting
and stuff like that a little bit. But yeah, I
mean I think that just opened the doors up to
just like, Yo, this is this is dope. I want
to be a creative, I want to do these type
of things and how supportive. Was your family they were
(08:38):
they were they were supportive. You know, they're very supportive.
You know, just let me, you know, be a kid.
You know what I'm saying. I think that's very important,
not really shutting down. You know what I'm saying that
the kids just mine, you know, just letting them be them,
being themselves. So, you know, my family was very big
on that, you know, just let me be me. When
I wanted to do something, you know, they were they
(08:59):
were very advocate let me do it.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, where your acting career definitely took you into music.
So when did you know that you were musically talented?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, I'm still young.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
You know, I was in high school performing at the
high school shows, and you know, with my friends, we
were always making music. We had the what was that
not logic it's a garage band on on the mac
when it first came out, or just recording, you know,
to cassette tapes on the radio, making our own little
radio stations, like just going crazy. When YouTube first came out,
We're doing lips and music videos, you know what I'm saying.
(09:31):
So music was always the thing. I just love to perform,
love to be on stage, loved the feeling it gives off,
you know, and once it got to like creating my
own music, you know, it's just like it was something.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
It was fun.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Man.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
It's also a relief for me, you know what I'm
saying as well, just telling stories and yeah, man, I
just kept going in love with it.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
What songs did you perform in high school? What'd you
do on last?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Oh? Man?
Speaker 5 (09:51):
I mean in high school it was a lot of fun,
turned up party, you know what I'm saying. We like
the party, you know, we performing at all the high
school parties. And now did you have a school, Yeah,
we had, we had to grow. What was the name
you were going crazy? It was a Sad Boys standing
for sex and business, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
So, yeah, man, we're for the ladies.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
You know, you're going crazy turning the party, yuh, you know,
sex and business. But yeah, we were just going crazy,
you know, just just being kids, just having fun.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Do you still talk to a lot of the Sad Boys?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, I still I'm still in contact with a lot
of them.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Are you still down there or are you in La?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I moved to North Hollywood. I'm back in Long Beach though.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Okay, nice Long Beach is the ship, I mean anywhere
closer to well, I mean I guess we're close to
the beach here too, but it's so weird to literally
it's just you know, fifteen miles out to be about
LA time. Yeah, sure, yeah, you just it's like, I
forget we're a beach town. Come on, Uh so what
type of okay? You listen to everything growing up because
(10:47):
the radio was just very at.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
That time that time, and there was no YouTube, you
know what I'm saying, So you were just listening.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
You were kind of forced to listen to the radio.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
It's like the TRL era, just like you're forced to
like these top ten songs. You're voting for him, But
if you're song it and get on, you're still forced
to like songs for sure, which you know can be
good in the way. Well, as an artist is good
because you get more people listening to your music. Everything's
so segmented. Everyone has their fans all compartmentalized everywhere.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
That and there's just so many artists now yeah, no,
there's so many streams of music.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Well, thanks of TikTok. Do you like your TikTok?
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Are you? Man?
Speaker 5 (11:24):
You know I'm trying to trying to keep up with
the TikTok. Yeah, there's a lot going on in there
every every second. But but no, I love it though.
I just I love where the game is going. It's evolving,
you know, it's just the powers in your hands. It's
just kind of how you use it, you know what
I'm saying. So, yeah, TikTok is done.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Well.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
You eventually met your friend Tony Aller after working together
on a TV show. Uh Now, who was the first
to suggest making music?
Speaker 5 (11:48):
Like I said at that time when we came together,
like we both find out we love music just just
as much as each other. You know, I'm making music
in my trailer, he's making music in his trailer. A
lot of downtime when you're shooting, so yeah, we're just
coming to each other's trailers or whatever, and you know
you're making this.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Oh, let me throw a verse on that.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Or even when we were we weren't done, you know,
shooting on set, we'd go straight home or I go
to his house, and you know what I'm saying, we're
recording music, you know, all night and just you know,
being bachelors running around the city having a good time.
So it was just a lifestyle and yeah, man, we
just love music.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Well that just is so an authentic way of starting group.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Not many people there they started that way.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Yeah for sure, for sure, Like we didn't get put
together like I don't know, it was, yeah, like we
it was just like, yo, you love music, I love music.
Put some stuff up on YouTube, and you know at
that time, that's when people were kind of getting seen
on YouTube. You know, producers, you never know who's watching
on YouTube, you know what I'm saying. So I guess
he hit up he was trying to do music, so
(12:48):
I guess he hit up a friend and that ended
up finding our videos and they sent that to some
producers and you know that ball started rolling from there.
So but yeah, it just started. You know, we love
music together. So that was pretty pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I mean, you came out swinging with your first hit,
you know, a huge hit, but the second single, classic
was even bigger, which you know, always your sophomore song
and your sophomore album is always hard because you know,
you have to impress everyone a second time and a
lot of times, you know, artists work twenty years to
get that first single out.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
So you know it's good, but then the second one
you're like, oh crap, now what do we do? Yeah,
but y'all killed it, charting Top twenty Billboard Charts, double platinum,
two hundred twenty five million views on YouTube. What did
that feel like?
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Man? Was? It was surreal?
Speaker 5 (13:37):
Like you know, being from Long Beach, like I said,
just seeing everything that I named growing up and always
dreaming about touring or putting out a CD, you know
what I'm saying on my own or like you know,
I never really saw how that would happen, but ended
up meeting Tony and then like doing the whole label
bid thing, like labels bidding for us, trying to figure
out what we're gonna get signed to, and meeting our producers.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Well, how did that process go down? How did you decide?
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Because you know now people don't even sign with labels anymore. Yeah,
but you know, back in our day, you were fighting
for a label and you'd be lucky if one would
look at you. You had lots of labels wanting you, guys,
So how did you end up deciding who you wanted
to go with?
Speaker 5 (14:19):
It was also you know, the the producers we were
assigned to, you know, they they wrote a lot of
music for a lot of dope artists in the game,
you know, Neo and Helo, Beyonce, just like a lot
of stuff. So they've had a very nice influence in
the game. So the relationships with the with the labels
for them were very easy, you know what I'm saying.
(14:40):
But you know, when they they got down to the business.
So we got a single, let's figure out how we
could do it. So you know, that's that's where they
were at that point. So it was just like, you know,
the labels were definitely trying to get trying to get involved,
so I understood that, but you know, we we definitely
had to do our part and sell the record, you
know what I'm saying. So we're going to three cities
you know a day, you know sometimes and you know
(15:02):
what I'm saying, the white tour bus van, you know
what I'm saying, Like we were really grinding it out.
I know, people think like we're coming from acting and
maybe had like can bring some of that weight with us,
you know and help us on our music journey.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
But now we really had to grind from them from
the ground us.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
It is for sure, for sure, So acting fans are
not music fans.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah, no, it definitely kind of grew into that later.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
You know, I would see people, you know, respecting what
we do, you know, as both of what we do.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
But but yeah, it was a grind.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
So the label bids going up, you know, to whatever
labels and them trying to figure that out, ended up
signing with the label.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
It was just it was just dope, man, the dream
come true.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
And then uh, you know, we signed with the label
for certain reasons and with our producers, you know, they
had their vision for us, you know as well when
we're young, so you know we were kind of overlooking
that a little bit. But uh, you know that's the
name of the game, you know what I'm.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Saying, we have to trust them.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Yeah, sure, career, yeah, you know, and they did great.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
They did great, you know, getting into you know, top
ten on Billboard Classic, like touring all over the world,
opening for Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I know we were talking about her. She brought us
out of Jellette stage. Which tour did you do with Taylor? Well,
she just she was like doing a tour.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
She was paying homage to certain songs she liked, so
she would bring our artists to come perform those songs.
So classic was a song she liked, and uh, we
almost missed the show, like she was performing at jel
At Stadium and uh, she had one night, but we
were like touring and running around. But we made the
second show and yeah, she brought us up on the riser, Like.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
So you got to perform in the stadium. Yeah, yeah, okay,
the first time.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Please tell me what that moment is the first time
you step out in front of seventy thousand people.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
Oh my god, it was like crazy, It was crazy. Well,
you know, we don't even think we did like a
sound check. Yeah, I'm not sure if we did a
sound check, but.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
It was so much different from when all the people
were out there, you know, just screaming and going crazy,
different level of noise. It's so so wild. I just
wanted to take my in ears out and just enjoy,
just enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
You know.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
She brought let us come out on the riser, so
we came out from under the stage.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
It was just that was for you. Do you remember
your first Yeah, I know you.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I'm like, that's why I have goosebumps right now because
I know I remember that feeling. And you'll always remember
it because it was opening up for Jana Jackson. Yeah,
a rope tour and it was the Detroit Stadium super
Dome and yeah, we come out and you just get
this wave of this noise and then you get goosebumps
and they don't go away.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yeah, they just don't go away.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
It is turns in the energy dancing. It was great. Bro.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Do you remember the first time you heard your song
on the radio, because that that's a moment.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I think everyone is.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Like Tony and I we were in the car going
I don't know where we were going, but we were
on the road somewhere. Knew it was playing, and he
was you know, made sure the radio station was on,
and you know, we were just going crazy in the car.
I think it might have been like nighttime, you know
what I'm saying. We were just we were just going crazy.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Bro.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
You know that's that moment, you know, the first time
the songs the radio we're listening to, He's out, We're
just we're going crazy.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
So yeah, I never forget that.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
He probably knows where we were, like where we were going,
but but yeah, I just knew we were in the
car going crazy.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
That was That was dope. What about you. You remember the
first time we were in Germany.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
We lived over there the first couple of years, and
but we were separated into two vans, so there was
three of us in one car and two and the other.
And I guess we had just left a radio station
and so we had the radio on. We're just hoping
that we would hear it, and it played, and oh
my gosh, we were but we were also children, right,
We were definitely just goof balls. And I remember there
(18:32):
every van was stuffed with stuffed animals because over in Europe,
if you go on stage, you're gonna leave with five
hundred stuff down. Okay, that was just that. So we're
all like making that stuffed animals dance and we're trying
to like, you know, communicate between the cars.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
So yeah, so yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
And it just sounds so much better on the.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Radio radio right a little bit.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
It's just like it's just that you should always listen
to a song, Yeah, for sure. All right, reflecting on
the ten years the song, ten years later, what do
you think it was or why do you think it
was such a massive hit? Why does it resonate with
so many people?
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Yeah? Ten years it doesn't even know. This song like
just came out.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
It's true, but I'm telling you that's that COVID thing.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Time just warped, like we lost the good four years
of forward.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
It trips me out when people are like, yeah, I
was listening to that was my jam in high school.
I'm like, yeah, okay, but now ten years man, not,
I don't know. It's beautiful, but I think just like
you know, when the record was written, and when you
write the record with different people, you just get to
tap into so many different people, you know, in different genres,
(19:43):
different age groups. So I think that was a key
thing for the song. Like so many people love it,
like you at the shows, you see the kids loving it,
the parents can sing along to it, the references Michael
Jackson's It's just so many, so many little cool things.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
It's the upbeat song.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
It feels good, yeah in summer.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
So it's like the quintessential, like this is the song
of the summer.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Yeah, Like it's a little jam. It's a jam for sure.
So yeah, man, it's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
So you guys, you go on tour, you release more music,
your debut album EP. But in twenty seventeen, you announced
a split which only lasted for a year. So go
through this? Why why you take your break?
Speaker 3 (20:27):
You know we were going through I mean it was
just a hell of a roller coaster.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Of an experience, you know, just jumping into that world
and not really knowing what to expect. But you know
it it was a I don't know, man, I can't
really speak for him. You know, Tony was going through
some things as well, and yeah, so I really don't
know what was his initial like thing to.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Oh so it was his idea to take a break.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
I mean, yeah, he wanted to take a break, you
know what I'm saying, or whatever the case may be.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
And how don't feel about that? I mean you red
or you just supportive? It was what it was.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Yeah, you know I was kind of you know, yeah,
I was like, yeah, that's cool. I wanted to go
off and do some other you know, kind of get
back into the acting and do that thing. Like, uh,
I didn't mean to like go away so abruptly, but
you know kind of when I jumped into the music,
you know, I really didn't uh, you know, have the
(21:23):
my acting side there, like I should have, just to
make sure everything was you know, running you know, kind
of parallel to each other, but you know, just going
off and doing the music. You know, it was a
great thing though, so it kind of was you know,
taking his time. You know, we were torn just like
so much, so you know, just not being away like acting,
you get to go away for a little bit, come home,
(21:45):
you know, just toring you on the road.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
It's like it's it's a baseball year around, you know,
so that it is very comparable base just always on
the road. We have that many shows in a week
for sure.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
For sure.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
Christmas, we've got to be in New York for the
Christmas Parade on Christmas Day while everybody's watching it.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Like you know, it's just you know, a different world
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
So and I know we I would love to talk
to about your acting stuff. But as everyone knows, we
are on strike now. Yeah, SAG after WGA, So everyone
police support all us, Yes, support because it is it
is uh, you know, it's just sad what they've done
to our community.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
And I don't know if I've said this on the
show before, but I'll say it again. Eighty seven percent
of the SAG actors can even qualify for insurance which
is only twenty six thousand dollars a year for sure,
So eighty seven percent of an industry is making under
twenty six it's making under twenty six thousand dollars. How
how is that even legal? Yeah, it's it's just crazy.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
To t us down with, you know, what's going on
with the actors and everybody. So yeah, it needs to
be worked out.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yeah, it's I mean, but you can say that with
every industry, the top one percent gets everything, it gets
even more greedy, and then they're going to try to
you know, take as much as as possible before the
rule changed, and they know the rules are about to change,
so they're just trying to cash out as quickly as possible.
But hopefully we can get this settled quickly because we
all got to get back to work, yes sir, all right,
(23:25):
so you get back in twenty eighteen. How did that
first conversation happen?
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Who called it? I think he?
Speaker 5 (23:33):
Uh, you know, it's a conversation between us and the producers.
You know, it's like a little bit of you know,
some some alcohol you know involved, so some stuff just
had to be worked out, you know, liquid courage. Yeah,
and just on my end, you know, just like you know,
not wanting to do like certain things or like literal events.
I'm like, bro, this is one of the easiest jobs
in the world, you know, like we can't be not
(23:56):
wanting to do certain things, you know what I'm saying.
But so yeah, I'm just like, yeah, you ready to go.
I mean it's easy, like you know, but I was
kind of getting back into the acting a little bit,
shooting some stuff. So I was like, but yeah, the
music is this is something I love. You know, I
was gonna do it regardless, like you know, solo, like
this is always something I've loved to do and always
(24:18):
dreamed about doing. But we build something, let's let's keep
it going, you know what I'm saying. Let's do what
we you know, got to do. The fans want it
like it's it's all right there, like it's easy, so
let's get it done.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
You know.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
I kind of was pushing the thing, like, you know,
we can both still let's do some solo stuff as well,
like you know, I know that's kind of what we
both dreamed, Like you know what I'm saying. We never
really envisioned of being a group, you know when we
were you know, not when we haven't met. So you know,
let's let's not let that vision go away, even though
we built a great thing, you know, so it's just
trying to figure things out. I was like, let's figure
(24:50):
it out, let's jump back into it. Yeah it was easy.
It wasn't really and.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
You were making you were releasing music till twenty twenty.
Then COVID happens, assuming and you haven't done any music yet.
Are we going to have anything soon that we could
listen to?
Speaker 5 (25:03):
No, sir, you know, just growing up and kind of
understanding the business. You know, we're kind of talking about
the acting and you know, uh, you know, just a
lot of stuff has to get changed as well. You know,
the music is a whole nother you know, beast itself,
you know, where things have to get figured out. So yeah,
just understanding that and you know, uh, just kind of
(25:26):
understanding the business a little more and fighting on that.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
You know, on that end, it just.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
It just wasn't you know, it wasn't you know, Yeah, yeah,
it wasn't worth it, bro for sure.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Well.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Uh, in the meantime, you haven't worked on your soulo music. Yeah,
you're just released an EP earlier this year.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
So how does it feel to work on music that's
totally your own?
Speaker 2 (25:48):
It's dope.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
You know, Tony and I were doing that as well,
you know, just making music are our own and releasing it.
But you know, when you get with the label, you
know they want to be involved, they want to produce
them on it, right, they got to it. Yeah, so
you know that kind of takes the fun out of
it of creating a little bit. But you know, they
were letting us write a little bit here and there.
So but yeah, just doing it on my own is great.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Man.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
I just love to create and you know, but even
in that, just learning how to collaborate with writers and
different people, with different producers.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
So still doing that and it's been awesome.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Bro, Who is the who is the producer that you
want to work with? If you had just anyone? Oh man,
man Toddy Dolla sign. Leon Thomas is definitely coming up
right now. He was on a couple.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
Uh he was an actor as well, and he's also
a musician, very very talented writing for everybody right now,
So I love to work with him. Who else uh
bands for real?
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Uh man, It's just so many dope people. There's so
many minds crazy? Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
What do you think of about writers now?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Because there's there's so many songs now that have fifty
people as credited, right right, Yeah, you know it's like
doctor Frankenstein is just making all these songs. What do
you think about these major collaps with fifty different writers?
Speaker 5 (27:16):
I mean it can be a headache sometimes. I mean
I guess it feels like it's cheating.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Yeah, and on the splits.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
But that's what I'm saying, like, yeah, you get that
many powerful writers in the room, like who are specialized
just the top line of the.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Bridge or you know, just the melody.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Oh yeah, yeah, you better get it better because no
one's taking nothing.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Yeah exactly exactly, but yeah, not that many people.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Maybe like yeah or yeah it's a good numb Max,
that's a good number. Yeah, yeah, don't go crazy for sure.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
All right, Turkey here is gonna love this. But you
have worked with Celindion.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Your featured on the song Save Your Soul for a
twenty thirteen album Loved Me Back to Life. It was
on the vinyl version, which vinyl is huge. Again, how
did this happen? What was it like working with Selin.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
That was our producers you know, like I said, they've
worked with a lot of the great people. Uh so
I think that they've worked with her, you know previously before.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
And you know they were trying to figure out.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
Some somebody to do the verse, and you know it
was in house, so you know, they blessed me and
let me do it. So I was I was excited.
You know, I didn't get to meet her while we
recorded the record, but but yeah, that was dope.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
That's still cool to be a part of it.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
All Right, what's next for you? We got more music,
more acting?
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yeah, more music, more acting? What's that?
Speaker 3 (28:34):
You know everything's figured out on that end?
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Uh, Like where do you see like the next ten years?
Where's your perfect world?
Speaker 5 (28:42):
I've been writing a lot as well, so just throwing
on that hat, you know what I'm saying, Just more ownership.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
So yeah, scripts for the for the TV and the movie.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
You know, I definitely got some some ideas in that film,
in that in that realm.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
So you're you're creative in the film television.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
For sure, for sure. Yeah, that's always.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Been a dream project that you would want to bring up,
that you would like to put in the universe.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
Oh man, Uh, you know, Key Key Palmer has something
that she, you know, what's got going on. You know,
I think, uh, you know, it's just a lot of
us from from that time, uh that.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
We're trying to do something. So I think that's just
going to be big. So your friend.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
We did a movie called Yeah You Did You Did
Want to?
Speaker 5 (29:24):
We worked together a long time ago. But you know,
blessings to her and everything she's got going on. But yeah,
we're just going to do something. Shout out kofe uh.
But yeah, it's just something something we're gonna do something
from with the people from our era who kind of
kids love that. But yes, to stay tuned, stay tuned.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
All right, Okay, so I need to frost a tip
from you. What tips do you have for people who
want to pivot in their careers from acting to being
a duo to solo. It seems like you've been able
to navigate it all so smoothly, So do you have
any tips.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Definitely take advantage.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
Of of you know, your social media, I think is
just one of the big things, you know, just kind
of being around you know, just kind of right before
it wasn't here, then right when it was here, and
kind of just trying to understand that transition. And you know,
still learning every day from how the kids, you know,
you utilize TikTok and how they're doing it, and just
(30:20):
being real heavy with the content, you know. Yeah, I
think I think it's all on you.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
You know.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
The more content you push out obviously quality, then you know,
you want to build your fan base and uh, you know,
and if you build a good core, you know, I
think with you know, how people are following you, you know,
they'll be able to follow what you do, you know.
And I think if they like it, they'll mess with it,
you know. And if they like you, you know, they'll support
what you do, you know. So and I just taking
(30:46):
advantages of that.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
I've noticed that, Yeah, if you want to like get
in the mainstream, you have to go where the teenagers are. Yeah,
and that is right now on TikTok. So I the
smartest thing I ever did was a couple of months ago.
I went to a twenty one year old I know
to help me run my social media. It's been a
game changer. She thinks of things that like I don't.
(31:08):
I'm like, wow, you're and she's so quick at everything.
We can film five TikTok videos in an hour and
she has them edited within the hour.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
It is, it goes over.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
You know, it's just connect she is, I mean for sure,
and she has no idea who in sync is. She
don't know who Whitney Houston is, right, Like, what the hell?
Speaker 2 (31:28):
But you have to but.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
You have to know that that generation thinks that way
if you're going to try to win them over, because
they really are the tastemakers. They're the ones spending the money.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
And parents Yeah well yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Bad parent did not know who Whitney Houston was. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Yeah, you will never understand what it's like to be
a twenty two year old right now, Like you think
that that was just yesterday.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
It feels like I was just twenty two. But Megan's
so much information.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
It's just I mean, it's the whole different world.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
It was like we were born in the fifties to her. Yeah,
that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
That is nuts.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
That is the nineties from that was like our fifties. Yeah,
that's wold, that's just weird.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
That is weird.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
All right.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
I got some fan questions from Jesse McFerrin, What do
you think about your song classic Blowing Up Again?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Thanks to TikTok man.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
That's dope man, Like I said, shout out. You know.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
The challenges. Yeah, no, just keep it going, keep it rocking.
You know, how can I forget or whatever? We'll turn
it out, turned it yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Catherine DC twelve wants to know what are your thoughts
on duos categorized as boy bands. That's a good question because, yeah,
everyone has their own vision of a boy Band's usually
five guys the dance or you know whatever. But two
guys is that considered a boy band?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I always thought it was like a duo.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
Yeah, I mean yeah, because I'm I considered a boy
band more.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Yeah, like right, you can consider it to be multiple
guys like singing dance.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
It's like it's despite the boy version of Spice girls. Yeah,
boy band, but it is definitely evolving.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
People with boy band the band.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yeah, but one direction didn't dance where they have a
boy band.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
You know, nobody they play instruments, the only saying, so
I would say they were a boy They kind of
hopped around.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Yeah, but Hanson, so it all just kind of starts
flowing extra poppy.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Then you're a If you're like not, then you're yeah
not a boy Yeah, the cancer was straight.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Up, yeah, exactly. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I mean, who knows, it's all it's all evolving bands.
I mean when we were a group, there wasn't even
a term called boy were definitely a boy band, yeah,
but we didn't know what that was. We were like, no,
we're boised men. What are you talking about.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
We're a We're RB vocal group. That's what we're like.
Oh no, we're a band.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
All right.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Before we let you go, I have to know what
we are watching right now? What are we listening to?
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Like?
Speaker 1 (33:59):
What's songs do we need to know right now?
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Yeah? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
They could be old classics to like what what gets
you in the mood?
Speaker 3 (34:07):
I'm an R and B guy. I liked a lot
of R and B.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Like Brian McKnight.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
Yeah, old school R and B for sure. Yeah, any
any type of R and B. Yeah, go with that.
I can't really name.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
We'll skip the TV and film because.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Again, well we can't support you, sag you and your
members guys that.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
For a second. Thank you guys so much.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
It was so great to see you and catch up.
I I mean, I know so much about you now,
and I'm so happy that you were able to join us.
We're definitely going to try to get Tony on here
finish up the group. So what do we have to
ask him? Is there something that you're like, Oh, you
got to ask him this?
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Uh, give us some inform.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Let's get him in trouble a little bit.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
He's an open book, I mean something U Yeah, I
love it.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Well, Malcolm Kelly, thank you so much for being on
Frosted tips. How can everyone stay in touch with you
out there?
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (35:08):
At the Red Malcolm on all the socials, Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, threads,
whatever you use.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Oh, we're on threads still. I mean I forge Threads
was like twenty four hours for me because I got
rid of I got rid of Twitter so long ago.
I'm like, you know what, it would be nice to
have something like that again. No, it lasted twenty four hours.
I can't just TikTok Instagram. It's all I got time
for ye at the real Milchael. All right, Malcolm, thank
(35:34):
you so much. We'll talk to you peace. All right, guys,
be good to each other, don't drink a job out there,
take care of those animals and remember stay frosted. Hey,
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