November 15, 2021 • 58 mins
ust hours after the last putt dropped Christina relives an emotional tournament week during which she lost a chance at victory but held on to secure her card for next season. Alan offers an update on his Mickelson biography, a preview of his trip to the Wishbone Brawl and, perhaps, the Sand Belt Classic in Melbourne, Australia.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hello, and welcome to another episode of bull Send with
Christina Kim and Alan Chipnuk. It is only a couple
of hours after the last put dropped at the Pelican
LPG Championship. It was an action impact week for our girl,
c K. So proud of you. You played your butt off,
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secured your card for next year. Obviously you were in
the hunt today. It didn't quite go the way you wanted,
but you held tough and you got it done and
take it away. Tell me everything. I'm just gonna sit
back and listen. Um, but what a week? Yeah, I
should we go from the semi second hole backwards? Or
should we go from Monday when I had to play
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in the fucking Monday qualifier? And so it's it's it's
this whole thing. One the field closed, I was not
in the field. That was the first alternate, and I
contact it. Uh Tim Aaronson with Outlier Management Group. Love
those guys. They used to represent me back when they
worked with Octagon and then they had left the company
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um to start their own thing, and so messaged him
because gosh was around Halloween. Before the field closed, the
tournament had announced that Maria Fosse and Stephanie Meadow had
received the first and second excuse me, second and third
sponsors invites, and I was like, phil um, are you
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guys going to continue in with that same philosophy? And
can I at least throw my name in the hat again? Maybe? Please?
And so Tim was like, well, we're still you know,
we're working on a bunch of different things. We're trying
to figure out who we're going to give the invites to,
but we are definitely you know, you're you're definitely in contention.
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And I'm like, okay, cool. And so all of last
week goes by, and the or excuse me, all of
two weeks ago go by, or I don't know a
day is it? Ship um? Anyway, the week before the
tournament goes by, and I'm like texting Tim because he
was like, I'll let you know in forty eight hours.
And I texted him and I was like, so, I know,
it's been forty six He told me to wait forty eight,
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but but your girls die in here. And Tim was like,
we're still we're still working out a few things. I
promise I'll let you know as soon as I can.
I was like, okay, He's like at this point. Uh.
You know obviously like we're we're not going to tell you,
you know, and we're not the we're not the actual
decision makers. So our recommendation is to make sure that
you go to the Monday qualifier to see if you
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can't play your way in that way, and then if
you don't, like obviously everything has to kind of get
reset anyway. So I'm like, son of a bitch, and
so there, you know, obviously there's any number of players
that you could think of that might be part of it,
you know, whether it's say it's if it's Cheyenne Woods,
whether you think, you know, could it be Gnatly Goull
This she has to every heart. She's just beautiful, tall
girl that lives in Tampa. Like, there's any number of
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people that they could have thought of. And so I'm like, okay, well,
so I go prepare for the mone To qualifier. Turns
out the Airbnb that I had booked, um I I
didn't read the fine print closely enough, because it turns
out it was a clothing optional resort that I had
rented my condo in, and the amount of men that
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were donald ducking around the place, I only saw one
pair of titties the entire time that I was there,
And um, I saw a lot of other bits though,
and it was it was. And so people at those
couple of places are the ones you don't want to
see naked. It's like I went to a water park
in Orlando, and all the moms in a thong were
the ones you didn't want to have in a thong.
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Like it's a weird self selecting audience. I can't even
explain why. But let's let's not get bogged down in that. Yeah,
I will say, like, I have no problem with nudity.
Everybody is born nude. Everybody, you know, everybody's nude underneath
their clothes. Uh. My only thing is it's like because
I don't care. I mean, I'll flop about freely. I
look like Dr Zoidberg from Futurama with the shell off,
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or or I tell people I look like a sharp
a running. But you know, it's like I I because
I don't care. You know, if I'm in the buff,
but I like to think, you know, would other people
be uncomfortable with it? But if you're technically in a
clothing auctional resort, the whole bag, you're comfortable that you're
not supposed to. Yeah, everyone should just be like okay.
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And I remember because I had to walk up one
flight of stairs to get into my condo, the condo
that was right at the base at the top of
the stairs. As the days went on, the guy was
losing more clothes and the temperatures were dropping, and my
last full day there, he was completely in the buff
and I was like, okay, I gotta go inside my place.
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And I'm just like I I first to start if
you like, hey, how's it going, Yeah, Airbnb, and then
it was just like hi there, how are you? And
then it was like hi, and then it was just
like not, you know, like just avert the eyes and
walk off. So that was before the tournament started. Great moments,
And I mean you would think that they wouldn't be
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the fine print. It would be like in the headline
clothing optional condo, right like if you come on, that's
the kind of thing you probably need to make clear. Yeah,
nudist colony, that would be. That would be helpful. That
would be helpful. But either way, I mean, it was
still it was it was a nice spot, so it's
all good. Um, And I had, you know, I had
a good time anyway, because I was like, you know what, Yeah,
these people are free, like living your life. My only
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thing is like, it's kind of cold, like when it
got cold you well, I mean I don't care about that.
They all fit and plus you know, summer showers, summer growers.
But you know, it's just if it's cold and you
live in Florida, Like the Floridian mindset is that it's
extra cold, so yeah, you should probably be wearing clothes.
Maybe that's why everyone was Donald ducking because they had
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to wear a shirt to try and stay warm. So anyway,
the Monday qualifier starts. I've got my my buddy John
Claire Um catting for me. Who's in here? Okay, so
what is the mindset? You're playing a Monday, but you
know you might have this, uh you know, second chance.
There's there's this safety net, perhaps the sponsor's exemption. So
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can you block that out of your mind and just
go all in on the on the Monday? Are you
still thinking, well, if I don't play my best, it's okay,
I still have another shot at it. No, my brain
was like, you know what, just play your way in
and then that way you don't have to make the
tournament feel obligated or feel guilty if they don't give
you an invite. My thoughts were. And also I had
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applied for one of the sponsors invites prior to the
announcement of Maria FOSSi and Stephanie Meadow before they became
eligible to play by merchant virtue of their own merit,
and I got shot down there. So I was like,
I can't rely on them, Like, you know, I know
they want to help me, but you know, at the
end of the day, it truly is at the discretion
of the sponsor. And I firmly believe, like, hey, what
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are we going to do? Be like, hey, give us
millions of dollars and we won't give you anything in return,
you know, aside from like you know, the TV and
the ads and all that stuff. But like, you know,
you got to make sure that you're you're willing to
give as well as you know, take millions. So I
was like, no, the Monday is the only way I
get in. Go play the Monday. I'm three under through
fifteen holes, sorry steen holes finished bogey bogey, missed by one,
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and so I'm just like, oh my god, I was like, okay, well,
you know what, fuck it, I'm first alternate. That's I'm
first alternate. The last thing I want is for anyone
to fall ill or become injured or anything. I want
some bitch to be like, oh my god, I'm in Bermuda.
I completely forgot to remove my name from the list
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and leave it at that. You know, I don't want
anyone to have, you know, cause any issues. So just
by the way, for your fans, of which I'm the
president of the fan club. Like when when I saw
you missed by one, I was gonna text you for
play by play, but I was like, no, maybe that's
not the best because yeah, I know, because I wasn't
you know, there was not any like real uh, I
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didn't know what happened. I obviously knew it probably came
down to the last hole, the last put, and I
was dying, dying to know. But in a rare showing
of discretion, I was like, Okay, I'm just gonna let
it go. So, bitch, you use that on Monday, but
you couldn't use that today. Okay, I waited until you're
on the gold person you couldn't see it. Yeah, alright,
Well just as a spoiler alert. So you know, Christina
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had said she was two weeks ago like I don't
want to do a podcast, like I just want to
focus totally this week on secure in my car. And
of course I respected that, So you know, she gets
off to this flying start. I'm jumping ahead, but I'm
dying to tweet about it. But I don't even want
to be a voice in the chorus. So I didn't
say anything until she was in the middle of her
round today, like you finally, I'm gonna let it out
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and just say how proud I am over And then
the second, like literally the second I pressed send, a
few things went sideways. But let's go back. So all right,
hold on real quick, though, I will say you had
it was the six words you could not use. I
don't want to jinx it. And then you go up
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the worst time. I mean, I've had some ill times
in my life. That's at the top of the list.
We'll get to that, all right, So we'll get to
that heartbreak at the Monday. So now you're you're in
the waiting game. You're still obviously grinding to get your
game ready. I as soon as I know that I'm out,
I put my ass in my car and drive the
nearly one hour from the Monday qualifier course to the
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Pelican Golf Club and I get a phone call from
Tim Aaronson and he was just like, Hey, I told
you I would let you know. I'm just letting you know,
I saw that you miss a qualifier by one. We
are going to choose to wait until after the qualifier
because the LPG regulations state the Tuesday prior to the
tournament week at five pm Eastern. If I'm not mistaken,
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is the off day. It's it's considered our our commitment deadline. Uh,
there's a late withdrawal deadline that is five pm the
Friday of the week prior to the tournament, and the
sponsors exemptions are granted until either five pm or one
hour after the conclusion of the Monday qualifier, whichever one
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happens later. And then in theory, if they choose not
to give out the exemptions at all, it just go
to alternates one and two. And so he was like,
We're just I'm letting you know, we're gonna, you know,
use our you know, stay within the guidelines and wait
one hour after the qualifier. And I was like, okay,
I you know, I appreciate you calling me and letting
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me know that I'm telling you my asses driving to
the golf course right now because at present, i'm first
alternate and I want to make sure that I'm ready
to tee it up on Thursday if I if something
were to happen and somebody were to withdraw, That's where
I'm at. And so I'm on the driving range and
hitting some ball. Was talking with a couple of girls
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and Chantelle Shantell in the cabe she used to be
with the Golf Channel. She she pops up and she's like, hey,
you know, we're just chatting and chatting, you know, and
you know, just talking about a bunch of stuff and everything,
and we're talking about the PGA Tour live stuff, and
you know, we're just we're just gabbing. And I get
a I don't realize this because I have my phone
like on my face. Yes, And then I decided to
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set it down on my Gepod Pro, which is a
it's a it's it's basically a stick with a magnet
on it so you can film your own videos. Um,
and I love those guys with g pod prow and
so I stuck it on there because I was taking
a couple of down the line videos and stuff, and
I just like, I'm like, all right, we've been talking
for like twenty minutes. I like, grab my phone. I look,
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I have two text messages from Tim Aaronson and one
miscall And I opened it up and he was like,
call me right away or else we're going to give
the spot to Natalie. And I was like, you know,
not realizing Nadali's in Saudi Arabia, and so I call
him and I'm like Aaron. I was like Timmy, Timmy,
how how how are you? And he was just like, ship,
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we just gave the spot to Natalie. And I was
like what oh And he was like, I'm just kidding.
And I saw I said this in an interview. I
swear to god, I lept up six ft in the
air like I was. I jumped up and down I was.
I looked like I was on a pogo stick. I
was rolling around in the grass like a dog that
just came across an old cow shit like I was.
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I was just beyond elated and I was like, oh
my god. And it was just like it was. It
was the most unreal moment ever, and Tim was like, UM,
look to your left and up and I look, I'm
on the ground. I look up and they're in the
second story of the building, immediately behind the driving range,
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which I think they used for like indoor teaching and
things like that, if I'm not mistaken, and that's where
they had their tournament office set up. And he's like
standing out the window like pointing at me, and UM,
I was just like oh. I was like, well, I'm
not ashamed, Like, you know, I'm just letting you guys
know you're making the right decision. Like I truly am
so stoked, and I cherished the opportunity to be able
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to play this week. And then I was like all right,
like it's fucking go time. And and at that point,
so going back a little bit, Sorry I keep jumping
back and forth. Um, I talked, I've spoken with Todd
and like we had been talking, you know, the week before,
and I was, you know, I was so stressed out.
I was so stressed out for three weeks straight and
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my brain wasn't even thinking. And uh, we've been you know,
we've been talking about you know, like talking about the
swing and talking about you know, all kinds of stuff.
And then I was just like it was Sunday and
I was like, okay, I'm gonna be like a foe,
crazy needy girl kind of thing, like do you wanna
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do you want to come? And it texted me because
I said, you know, my buddy John's going to caddy
for me in the Monday qualifier, and he was just
like all right. He was like, well, he's like I
did a final pack already. He's like, I've been packed
for a week. And I was like, oh my god.
I didn't I for some reason because I was so
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stressed and so needy, like I became I don't know,
I wasn't thinking and I was just like, oh my god,
like my brain did not work whatsoever. I was like,
there's no excuse. I'm like, I'm buying your ticket right now.
So we confirmed on Sunday afternoon, my time, and he
flew out Monday morning and landed like Monday just before midnight,
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and I was just like yeah, and I like, I
didn't uh. I didn't want to tell him until he landed,
just had his dress outside, like I let him. I
missic qualifier by one. I told him about the new
Beist colony and like whatever whatever, and then like I
did finally, I was like I finally broke it to him.
I was like, yeah, like let fucking do this. Yeah,
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I mean this is the and of course, like you know,
Ryan French of the Firefiit Collective is has shown a
very bright spotlight on this. But just the razor thin
margin between making it or not in professional golf, and
for you, it comes. You know, it could be one
put on the Monday qualifier, It could have been one
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more girl on the sponsors exemption list, and however, those
decisions get made, and you know, one didn't go your
way and one did and now you've got have a
chance to control your own destiny in the town. It's
incredible turn of events. So quite quite literally, quite literally,
I it was. It was unreal because I think I
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mentioned it before. I was points one oh one, one
oh two. We're all in the field, So I mean
I could have finished you know, any any anywhere on
the money list are the points less? Excuse me, the
race to see any pointless? And yeah, I mean I
will tell you right now. Monday qualifiers are a different
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type of golf altogether. It is completely different, and um,
it sounds like I'm complaining. Uh, it's more. It's more
that I'm finding, you know, ways for there to be improvement.
Is that the qualifier course played so much longer than
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the tournament course did. And because you know, it was
it was pretty wet. But I mean like we had
like four hundred and thirty yard par four's dead into
the wind with a backpen, you know, and and um,
you know, and it was like a literal like, oh
my god, did you see that that tumble? I got
two yards of rolled nice kind of a thing, you know.
And but you know, golf courses are always going to
be you know, victims to the elements and things like that,
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and different parts of the town are gonna you know,
be a little bit you know, more saturated than others,
different types of grass. Like I it's I at it,
it's a thing. But I was just like, god, damn,
like this shit stressful. Um so Monday, like Monday qualifiers
are no joke, Like it's it's it's a different mentality.
It's almost like a playoff where you have to make
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a birdie to win. You know, you can't play for
pars in a playoff. And it's the same thing with
those Mondays. It's like absolutely, you know, I love how
Monday qualifiers. A guy I'll shoot like one under and
then just walked to the parking lot of the turn.
He's like, I got no chance exactly exactly and and
and not to mention, I mean, any wonder like in
all honesty, any wonder that so many um, so many
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of these players you know, you get your you're fucking
it is exhausting, It is exhausting. Like I don't necessarily
consider myself as part of that you know, Monday qualifier,
qualifier class I get to start, you know, like I
just I just went and played somewhere else is basically
what ended up happening for me during the week. So like,
huge shout out to Lauren Coglin for um, you know
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she she won the Monday qualifier having shot three under
and then you know she she had a great week,
was able to retain her card, which was pretty sick. Um.
So I know she's a no link up girl, but
you know she's a buddy of mine. I'm super super
proud of her. And yeah, it was it's it's so
so so draining and um, but it's it's interesting because
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I think people were as focused on you and Lauren
as they were the top of the leader board, because
you know, we had no business up there. That's probably
what they were thinking. No, no, but I mean as
far as retaining your card, because all praise to Nully
and we will get into her because I know you
played there and you have a girl crush on her,
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but she already has three wins in a gold medal
this year, so if she doesn't win the Pelican, it's
still been an amazing year. I mean, this this, this
this wind did not change her life. It was cool.
I'm glad she I'm glad she snagged it, but ultimately,
you know, it doesn't really make a difference in her
day day existence. But you, Laura and all the other players,
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you were fighting for that top one spot. I mean
that is that is life or death, and you know,
metaphorically it's a big, huge deal. And so, uh, it
was cool. I mean, I got a lot of tweets
out the week about how you're doing. Uh, And obviously
the no Laying up community was focused on Lauren, and
it was cool. I mean, it just it's neat how
there's there's as much focus now almost on the the
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top of the leader board and the Bobba leader board.
There's like the tournament and within the tournament, and I
think fans are much more tuned into and and so
you know, you get off to a flying start, uh,
you know, first couple of rounds that it must have
felt so good with with all that, because obviously if
you missed the cut, you know, you're probably you're in
You're in really tough shape given everybody else in the field.
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So what is that that mentality? How do you how
do you balance between attacking and protecting those first two rounds? Well,
I mean and and part of it is, you know,
I and I've I've said before like Todd's like taking
half of Valium. You know, like he's just he's so
chilled out, and he has this amazing presence and this
incredible aura, and he's just there's just something like I
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can lean on him anytime I need to. And we were,
you know, like all week long, we worked in perfect
seink like I I you know, asked him for you know,
a handful of like you know, do you like this club?
At this club? And and you know it's he's he's
so great because he doesn't feel like he needs to
tell me what to do. Like he's like, I have
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full faith that you can hit. You can hit any
yardage with three clubs, you know, and I trust that
you know like what you're doing. And so knowing that
he has that faith in me puts more faith in me.
And the fact that he, you know, doesn't pull me
off of shots and things like that, like that makes me.
You know, it's one of those things where it's like
you don't feel like you second guess yourself, you know,
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and we're in perfect harmony every single time. Um. And
he he read a lot of really really good puts.
He read some great puts. Um, I will say, like
I feel like I could have been thirty under through
the first three rounds and honesty, like I missed so
I mean I missed probably half of the puts in
my first nine holes every day every day and um so,
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which was really really awesome. Um, but no, I just
I was like, Todd, this is if this is our
last event, like one, let's just have some fucking fun
and to like, there's nothing to lose at this point,
Like the only thing that can go wrong is if
if is if I get in my own way and
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you know, it was this was It was a nice
It was nice because I was able to sort of
get back, you know, like a fraction of what I
felt like when I won UM at the lord Ano
Choi Invitational presented by bonam x uh that sense of zen.
I don't get me wrong, I was scared shitless all
four days because that is like the Pelican Golf Club is.
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If you haven't played it, it's a phenomenal golf course.
It's especially for Florida. There is no rough between the
fairways and the bunkers. There's no rough between the bunkers
and the you know, there's fringe, but no rough between
the bunkers and the putting surface. They've got these shade runoffs,
they've got uh, you know, plenty of water, but not
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so much that you're like, well, we're obviously in Florida.
It is a spectacular property originally designed by Donald ross Um.
So there's just some pretty incredible complexes to the greens,
and you know, I was just like, let's just have
a fucking ball, like this was a gift, Like let's
just have some fun. And also like you know, it's
not like you know, I kind of joked about it,
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but it was like, you know, and also no pressure.
It's not like I want to make the entire Doyle
family and everyone with decks imaging and cannot uh uh.
Conica Minolta and everyone with outlier management looked like a
bunch of scrub by shooting one. You know. I was like,
I don't want them to look bad as well as
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there are a lot of people that this is involving.
It is something that I'm like, I was so honored
to be able to get the chance to tee it
up and that they believed in me, and their belief
in me, you know, they might have just been like, fun,
I give it to her, like I don't know, but
you know what I mean, like just the fact that
I was still given that you no, I I actually
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I talked with I talked with Tim. I was like
and I said, it was like, I feel like my
one motto was thank you, I'm sorry in the same breath,
and so he said, no, like you we we thought
about it, and this is awesome. We're giving you a
chance to to you know, write your own destiny, and
you know, we want you to succeed and you're great
for the game, you know, which I was just like,
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I don't know what you mean about that last part,
but thank you for giving me the chance to to
write my own destiny because you know, as a self
proclaimed and probably clinically uh proven control freak, you know
now that I can control ship as in control myself
let alone. You know, I can't control what, you know,
any of the girls behind me on the on the
points list are doing. Like at least I can control myself,
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and so that that gave me a sense of calm.
And yeah, it was just it was just easy golf,
like you know, I mean I had a really really
nice pairing for the first two days. Um, you know,
it was I had a couple of you know, I
had a nice practice round on Tuesday. It was nice
and late because Todd got in or late and I
was like, man, you might still be adjusting to the
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West Coast time or from the West Coast time, and
you know, just all kinds of stuff. I was like,
I was like, let's just go late. Uh we cheat
off like a half past twelve. We had a player
meeting at five, and I was like, surely all of
these girls that are between twelve and twelve twenty four
when we cheat off. Will understand that we all need
to finish and we should all be granted the opportunity
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to finish. We're on like whole fourteen, there's nobody behind us.
I'm like, if we don't finish by four fifty six,
heads are going to roll because I Am not going
to be late to our mandated player meeting. Um. And
and we did finish on time, made it over all
of that, and um, you know, it's just you know,
had had a really really nice pairing. Um, I had
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really good pairings all four days, to be honest, but yeah,
I mean the first two days I was just having fun.
You know. It was nice to have a clean scorecard
on Thursday, although it didn't feel like one because I
honestly I missed four puts in the front nine that
I felt like I should have made. Um, And you know,
it was, you know, a couple of puts you know,
towards the end of the round. But it was it
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was just so much fun. And again though it was stressful,
Like I don't know if it was like daylight savings
or what it was. I was exhausted by the end
of the round. Um. Yeah, well it's it's the emotion
you're pouring into it. I mean, there was so much
going on, so alright, so let you play two great
rounds and you put yourself right in the thick of
it Saturday. Your reward is a pairing with world number
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one Olympic gold medalists and everyone's favorite golfer, Nelly Korda.
So it's somewhat amazing. You guys hadn't played together until now.
But I guess there's a big age difference and all that.
So well, and realistically we also had we we run
on different schedules as well, like I don't know, like weeks,
I want to play earlier, she's playing late. The weeks
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I want to play late, she's playing early. Like you know,
we just had it just never happened. Also, by the way,
we had a brawling party, first public engagement like outside
of playing golf that I've attended, And there was a
concert Bye pit Bull Mr. Three oh five the pit
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Bull was there and he so I mean, like, I
I can, you know, I can I like his music.
I'm not like a ginormous fan. I can't think of
every you know, every song, every album because there's truly
two damn men need a name, amazing performer though he
had a seven person live band. The guitarist is this
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beautiful woman that also played the guitar, guitar and saxophone.
Excuse me he had. He brought six backup dancers that
were all legit tens like I would have flipped for
any of them. They were scored. It was this. It was,
honest to God, and it wasn't like one of those like, oh,
this is a private engagement, all staying for like twenty
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five minutes at you know, some some rich dudes daughter's
sixteenth birthday and then he's going to spoil her with
a Rolls Royce or something he like. And they had
like videographers there because they had the screens on either
side of the stage. Honest to God, the way that
you would have thought just by looking at the video
that it was the fucking v M as it was.
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Everything was first class and he laid it out the
entire time. He was on stage for over an hour
and a half private engagement. I saw him in a
super Bowl party. It was the same deal. I mean
it was. It was fun and I don't think there's
any ugly backup dancers in pit Bulls Bulls World for sure,
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Like that's that's a memory I have as well. But
they were ridiculous, and there was there was like a
five minute section when he was going to he went
to go change. He didn't out. He did a wardrobe change.
Like huge props to that as well, like super appreciative
as as a as an attendant of said concert, and
the entire band went um and they played salsa music.
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Everything was live and then one of the dancers did
an impeccable salsa uh uh dance. I don't even know
what you would call it. Like everything was top notch,
Like there was no halfassory whatsoever, not that I would
expect it from anybody that's being paid to like perform,
but it was legitimately one of the most impressive performances
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I've ever seen, even though it's not necessarily might go
to music. This is wardrobe change. He changed from white
suit into a white suit like anyway, so came out
with black pants and a black leather jacket that must
have weighed forty seven pounds. When he did eventually take
it off switched into a black suit. I was expecting Mr.
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World Why to be showing up in all white I
almost went to the party dressed in all white. But no,
he's evolving. So anyway, sorry, sorry, all right, that that
was a lot of pitbull content. Let's move on. So Nelly, yes,
now now now, So yeah, I had never even so
much just played a practice round with Nellie and um,
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you know, I was just like, hey, you know, like
get to the first teacher, like yeah, She's like I'm
She's like, I'm excited. We've never been paired together. Like
it's crazy. I think that in all these years we've
never been paired together. I'm like, how long you've been
on tour, you know, because it's just a well compared
to me, you know, well yeah, but I'm entering my
twentieth year, so just you know, ingest in Jess, I
was like, well, like how long have you been on tour? Um?
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But no, I was just like, no, dude, this is
going to be awesome. And I had tweeted the night
before because I was also pared to stay young kids.
I was like, I cannot wait to be out driven
by a collective hundred and sixty yards on every freaking
hole I stayed within like anywhere from like thirty to
fifty yards of of of of Nelly on almost every drive.
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I was like, okay, excuse me, you're bragging about being
within fifty yards. Okay, Christia, Yeah, that's a huge accomplishment
for me. I could be her mother quite literally, Like
I outdrove say Young a couple of times. Like it
was just like one of those things was like, excuse me,
Like this was kind of a thing. I'm sorry, I
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that was that was a feather in my cap for me.
I was stupid by that. I'm just I'm just giving
me a hard type. I know. Nellie's right ahead, Yeah, no,
she's she was. Yeah. So that actually that made me
feel a lot better. Um that yeah, I mean it
was like we both Burdie the first hole and then
like we're just like we're talking about like life, talking
about her boyfriend, talking about like her dog, talking about
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like just anything and everything under the sun. And I
was just like more and more enamored with her as
a round went on, because you know, when you when
you watch her, like, obviously she's very kind, she's um,
you know, obviously we talked about how telegenic she is.
She's TV does not do her justice. Pictures do not
do her justice. She needs to be in three dimensions, um,
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and you know, but she's she's not you know, she's
not like saying me like I will sit there and
I'll talk to a tree like you know, like she's
she's she's much more introverted than I am, um, which
doesn't necessarily mean much of anything, to be perfectly honest.
So it was like Robin Williams or I mean, that's
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that's the standard. We're all more introverted than New York
Christina okay fair, but um. Like one thing that I
was really impressed was was like you know, because it's
like if she was like, dude, you talk too much,
like I would have been like, oh, ship, I'm sorry,
like I I didn't realize I was like, you know,
distracting you or this or that or where she didn't
give a fuck, like I'd be talking to her about
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all kinds of ship and she just she was all
in on it. She never was dismissive of me, like
she was patient, she like always like and she also
she had signed the social contract in that I would
ask her a question, she would answer it, and she
would ask me a question and actually listen to my answer,
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like I was just like you're it really is it
really really is there girls I've known for five years,
I'm still waiting on my first fucking question. And so
like the fact, and and it was it was easy
talking like you know, like and we wouldn't necessarily it
was like there'd be a there were a couple of
topics that were like not necessarily easy, but it's just like,
you know, how are you doing? You know, how is
long distance going? Or you know, what are your plans
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on this or that? Do you want to have kids?
I know you're still a puppy yourself, but you know,
like where are you at right now? You know, and
and just all these like really you know, just interesting questions,
and she gave thoughtful answers. I mean, I'm sure she
appreciated in that golfers in general can be a little
standoffish in the tournament setting and um, I think especially
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pressure packed into the season event. Everyone's in their own
little world. And for her it's probably fun to have
someone to engage with and who was obviously interested in her.
And I mean, maybe you deserve a small piece of
her victory because she probably enjoyed the round and relaxed
her and you know, can you get can you get
five percent? You think no, no, but no, honestly don't no.
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I mean, trust me, there are times when I've been
not like outwardly told you talk too much, you're a distraction.
But it's like if someone giels kind of like a
dismissive answer, just kind of like you know what, wherever,
Like she was fully engaged, Like that was huge. So
I don't know if you remember her. I played with
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her at the proms in San Diego. Yeah. Um, And
one of my takeaways besides everything that you said, was
her incredible economy of motion, like she just it's like
it's hard to really express, but she moves so gracefully
and she's completely contained, like there's no fidgeting, there's not
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a second of wasted anything. Like it's she's just so
inward and then it's like it all gets channeled through
her golf club like it's just like she's conserving her
her cheek and then dam like the ball is explodes
off the face. It's it's a little startling because she
everything about her gentle like her voice and her manner
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and the way she moves, and it's like you feel
like this is like relaxing to be in her presence.
You know, she got this very soft laugh all of it,
and she steps up and then the violence when when
her club hits the ball. It's it's really it's a
little bit like Dustin Johnson. Um, you know it's I
mean Dustin's obviously you can see as a jock, and
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you can see that with nell A too. But even
so it's just like it's like not nothing is wasted.
Not there's no words, there's no expression, there's no motion
that that's ever used when it doesn't have to be.
And that was one of my takeaways, Like it was
just kind of cool to be around that. Her energy
very much, so very it's and that was one thing
I was that I had commented was just that, like
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you know, I said, everything she does is done with grace,
you know, even in how she interacts with people, you know,
and and um, she's very graceful. She's like you said,
it's it's it's very it's efficient, but not in like
a robotic sense. It's just that like but she has
she has she like girls got flow, she's got flow.
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And it's just like I was just I was so
I honest to god, was so surprised because um like
Lydia very much the same way, and that she's just
she's just so chill. She like she's no fun to
talk shit about people with like and it's like not
that you're like saying actual bad things about someone, but
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just like when you're just like shooting the ship kind
of talking about someone, and she's always like yeah, but
you know she you know, she'll be like oh yeah,
but you know, like uh, you know, Christina doesn't talk
about when she goes and volunteers are a sup kitchen,
you know, and people like, well, you're no fun. We're
just we're just we're not actually saying that someone is
a bad human being. But you know, like she always
see the best in people and it's nice to talk trash,
I get it, she lets you. And Nellie is the
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same way. So that being said, I am so pumped
that we've got people like those two that the next
generation of golf is in their hands, because there are
there are there are some people that could I mean
truly everybody, but there are some people that could definitely
take a lesson in watching her interactions with people. Um
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of the world. Lydia cos like one of my favorite
athletes on the planet and you sport human beings and
human beings. Yeah, and and Nelly is just's he's a
world class So yeah, that that's cool, all right. So
you play very well alongside Nellie. You're right there going
into the final round. So now this to me is
like a little bit of a mind funk where of
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course you want to a tournament that's the ultimate goal
and that that takes care of your future for a
nice long while, but you can't like come out of
the gate trying to knock down flags and do anything
crazy that kind of attitude. Ship. Um, so what is
your mentality going into this round where there's there's a
tournament in the tournament of trying to you know, the
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points race, and then there's the actual tournament that you
have what you asked to win. So how how do
you feeling when you step to the first tea? Ah?
So I had done a really good job of controlling
my emotions all week long. Um, it may not have
looked like it if anyone was watching the telecaster was
following along. That was me controlling my emotions. I was.
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I had noticed how high my heart rate was like
the entire day, and nothing I could do no amount
of breathing I could do could quell that. I felt
like I had this tightness in my chest and in
my in my back, like I was just like it was.
It wasn't that it felt like something needed to crack,
but I was like something something like I don't know
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if someone like accidentally stuck a pencil between my but
cheeks and I didn't realize it, and I was walking
around like that all day. But I was just clenched,
and I was acknowledging that I was clenched. And so
it was. It was tough. It was it was a
bit cooler. It was actually beautiful. It was like seventy
degrees out, but there was a little bit of a
there was a good breeze um and I just, you know,
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I wasn't making as good a contact of the golf
ball as I had wanted to. The wind was kind
of altering a few things, and I wasn't adjusting in
the way that I could have and or should have.
And then like and on top of that, like I
couldn't stroke a hat, Like I couldn't make a put
to save my life. And that was the hardest thing
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for me to accept. Like I just couldn't like I couldn't.
I couldn't get the ball to like end up near
the hole. My touch was a bit off, you know.
I think I think I might have maybe like not underdressed,
but you know, once it drops below seventy, like and
it sounds kind of silly, but this is my job,
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This is my work. I should have brought like a
neck gaiter or my ear mouths or something like. I
just I just kind of felt cold all day and
it showed with with my putter as well. Like I
was just cold all day and everything was off by
like a degree, a degree off with you know, whether
it was the angle of attack that I was swinging out,
whether it was you know, the line that I was
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trying to take, whether it was this, whether it was
out there was just a lot of you know, just
near missus, which kind of felt a little bit on
the familiar side, but was supremely irritating seeing how like
twenty four hours ago it was not so it was
it was it was, it was. It was a tough day, um,
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you know, and and yeah, like I was just like
I didn't ever really get like mad mad um. I
played with Patty Tata of a nick kit and we
were thank you. Um we were on fourteen is the
part five and she she mishit her t shot and like,
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because I mean that girl long. People say Nelly long,
that girl long. And yeah, and she she pushed her
drive into a bunker and buried her driver on the
tea box and I was like, as I still got hit,
and that's in no way ever, not in some form
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of my vision. And so I like went over there
and like tapped it down with my driver and like
tapped it down with my feet and then went and
teet off or whatever. But it was, yeah, it was
just it was I there's it's really it's really hard
to like quantify or to articulate what the day was like.
It was just tough. And it was again I couldn't
struck a cat. I felt like I couldn't club a
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seal like I couldn't, you know, I mean I I
couldn't hit the side of a barn if I was
five ft in front of it. Like it was just
it was just one of those things. And I talked
to Todd and I said, you know, my tempo is
a little bit off, and you know, like I I
it's like everything went cold, like metaphorically as well as
in a literal sense, like my fingers were cold. I
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couldn't couldn't quite feel anything, like everything was just getting cold.
And and you know, it's to think that if I
had shot even par like you know, let alone five
fucking over like, it would have been a completely like
Lord only knows where I would have ended up. And
so that was that was today. It was a tough
pill to swallow. But with everything going on the previous
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six days, like I'm I'm honestly like, I'm super proud
of how I played those first three days, and today's
just like I'm tired. Yeah, no, I mean there's there's
an emotional toll. I mean it for sure like you
were everything you went through that there that's gonna hit
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you at some point. But nice if it was tonight
at eight pm, But I'm not surprised you woke up
and everything fell off. I mean, your nervous system had
been through a heck of a lot. And but honestly,
like you know, I was watching I so I was
watching the Front nine on the live stream, and I
could see you didn't have your best stuff, But I
mean you got around an even par. And that was
when I tweeted your head to the back nine. I
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was like, I'm so proud of see k. I mean,
there's so much on the line and she's just gotten
it out. And uh, you know, obviously you made a
couple of bad swings on the back nine that that
cost you. But the bottom line is, I mean you
could have blown up and shot a million on the
back the way you were feeling, and you still held
in there through in a birdie made enough pars and
and got got it in the barn. So there's gotta
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be some satisfacts and knowing like as much as a
struggle as it was and as much pressure as you're under,
bottom line, you kept your card and that was the
goal at the start of the week. And is that
the obviously a little disappointed about how the day played out,
but is that the overriding emotion is just pure relief. Yes, yes,
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that's that. My number one goal coming into this week
was just keep my card. And I mean I had
set the bar low, like obviously everybody wants to win
every week, there's no question about that, but I was
just like, just fucking get into the tournament, you know,
And then you know, and then it's like, all right,
like obviously you want to play well, but you don't
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know how much everyone else has been practicing for you know,
this the you know one all season as well as
during these weeks off, and you know, you don't know
how hungry everyone else is. Like don't get don't get
ahead of yourself, just trying to stay in the moment,
and you know, and then I I put together a
really good round and this sounds super silly, but you know,
I shot five under in that first round and I
looked to see where the cut line was after the
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first day, like I just wanted to know, like, okay,
like how is everyone playing? How is everyone feeling? I
gotta say that course is so hard. Like I think
if if if someone would have pulled Todd before the
tournament started, after the practice round and after the pro am,
you probably would have been like, you know, if she,
if we can get around one or two under, you know,
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every couple of every day or so, like we'd be
pretty happy with that, you know, a little one going
out and you know, shooting fourteen under in the first
three rounds and and in all honesty, missing half of
the puts in the front nine that I legitimately could
have made. I could have, honest to god been thirty under, um,
you know, for through the first three rounds and not
as in like, oh my god, I should have been
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thirty under. It was like legit, like hitting really good
shots and and just missing holes and things like that,
you know, and those all those misses were like me
reading puts bad Todd. Todd was a fun getting rock
star all week, um, And so for me, it was
just like you know what, like you just gotta remember, like,
look at where you were six days ago, you know
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you and I did the math. If I had stayed
first alternate and I didn't get the sponsors invite and
everything else panned out the way that it ended up
panning out, I would have finished one oh one on
the CIMA points list. How fucked is that? Well? Absolutely insane.
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There's a lot going on to I mean, you've talked
in previous podcasts about how because the pandemic they're using
the two thousand and nineteen criteria first start and that
that negatively affected you. Um, and even the last month
even you've been doing some pretty major swing changes, and
you know, you hear this all the time when swing changes,
you you have to master it on the on the
range first, then you have to mas master in turnament conditions,
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and then has to hold up under pressure. And so
you did a heck of a job. And you know
Sunday is always going to be the ultimate test when
you're in the middle of a swing change and you
know you're you're not quite there, but you've obviously made
a huge amount of progress into the last few weeks.
So that's got to be exciting as as you look
forward as well. Absolutely, I'm I'm stoked, like I'm I'm
probably not going to bathe for the next ten days,
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but I'm you know, I'm I'm like like to an extent, Yes,
I am disappointed in not playing in the cimeme UM
toward Championship this week. There was one of two spots
that would have allotted me the opportunity to play UM.
It would have been if I finished first, I would
have jumped into the into fifty one I think of
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the points lest this was what was projected. Or if
I finished second, that would have gotten me to sixty,
like mid sixties, and even that might not have been
enough to get in. And the way I see it
my off season starts one week sooner than everyone else's.
I also don't have the pressure from the CIMME toward
championship riding on my shoulders, So I get to give
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myself a couple of days extra rest and be able
to get back on it like sooner than anyone else,
and be more prepared than anybody else at the start
of the season. And I get to actually play in
the state of Florida at the beginning of the season.
I'm pretty sure based on the numbers. Yeah, that's awesome. Well,
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you know, it's been a journey, Like we've been doing
this podcast all season long, and there's there's been adversity, right,
and you've been honest about about some of the challenges,
and that that's I think why the fans have been
on your side because they've they've been on this journey
with you for a long time and there's been a
lot of highs and there's been a few loads, and
so this this week was kind of a microcosm of
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the whole season. Like it, Uh, there's a lot of
great stuff and there was challenges, but you know, you're
still standing. So I'm super proud of you that it's
it's really it was a great offer and not for
real and um, you knowing for the listeners, it's it's
been fun to experience the highs and the lows, and
I'm glad you have a happy ending. It's not it's
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not a Hollywood ending. You know. That would have been
you making a thirty footer on the last hole to
win the tournament. That's Hollywood. But this is a reality.
Like you, it was a grind and you kept your
card and you're in a position to really you know,
it's a springboard for next season. So I'm happy fourteen
under through three rounds. Like what fun do I think
I am? Yeah, I mean that's I mean yeah, and
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you know I play shot for shot with Nelly on Saturday.
Like there's a lot of great stuff there. So again,
you gotta give yourself a little more time for for
the swing changes to bake in and um, and it's
hard if you haven't had a chance to contend for
a tournament in a while. Um, it's not easy to
put yourself in that position. So uh, you know, I
would just say congratulations and onward, Well, thank you, Alan, No,
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this is I'm I'm not gonna lie. I'm super, super
stoked to get my off season started because I get
to you know, my team, I will sit there and well,
you know, assess everything. We'll figure out, you know, where
the best places are for improvement. We'll figure out, you know,
what the things I'm doing really well are, and you know,
sort of just be able to kind of tackle things
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on and and find a way to be able to
play golf stress free, and you know, just I'm just
happy to be able to live in the moment right now.
You know. Also, Todd and I went fly fishing a
few times over at the He grew up fifteen minutes
from here in Dunedin, Florida, and so he took myself
and and Danny Chapman, who caddies for alle Ewing um
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uh fishing a couple of times. And my cast is
getting a lot better, right Well, I mean that's another
That's another thing from this season is I mean, you've
talked a lot about how how much Todd has helped
you and you guys seem to have great chemistry and
he's got to know your game and you know, it's
not easy to find a caddy really really vibe with,
and you seem to have done that, so that that's
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another positive. You know, you started out this year as
a question mark, like how is that relationship going to
be And it's all just have been solidified. And you know,
soph you guys are gonna be back at it next year,
like you'll be way ahead of where you were. You know,
he's got all the institutional knowledge, he knows the courses.
Now you know it's your game. Like there's there's a
lot of a lot of pluses that came out that relationship.
To no doubt, no doubt, he's a rock star and
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he I really I don't know if he realized that
he signed up to be, um, you know, helping me
with my swing, catting for me having a pat my
head when I need it, um, you know psychologists. At times,
he's like Sigmund Freud out there, my fly Gilly as
it turns out, like the the the poor guy, like
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you know, let alone, like the life that he has
to live outside of like a tournament round and and
the life that he has at home, you know, with
his with his girlfriend and his daughter. Um Marley, dude,
she's like five ft five or five ft six now
she might be like seven inches taller than when you
saw her last year. I'm sure that's right. Yeah, she
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was a sweetheart. Yeah it's neat that I yeah, no,
I I'm happy I got to know Todd and his
daughter a little bit because a little more insight into
your relationship. So that's great stuff. Well, all right, what
are we what's going on? No? No, no, no, no?
How's the book coming along? Like we? Deadline is in
a couple of weeks. How are you happening? Um, I
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have there's one more chapter. It's not even a long one.
I'm so close I can taste it. But before I'm
now going back and doing some deep fact checking, rewriting passages,
and I'm adding stuff that I've been meaning to add
for a while or came up, Like I want to
get everything the first like nineteen chapters totally in order.
(51:45):
So when I when I finished, when I put that
last little period on that last sentence, like I really
will feel like I'm done. So um, it's yeah, it's
this Michelson book is it's out of control. Like it's
absolutely out of control. It is so much fun. As
I go back and there's things that I wrote, you know,
a few months ago, I haven't really touched and and
(52:05):
I just keep plowing forward. And so as I'm going
back and improving these chapters, it's like, damn, that was fun.
I forgot how fun that was. And yeah, I mean
I'm a clear eyed critic of my own work, like
al right, something, and it's like like it's a you know,
it's a B plus or something, you know, which to
me would be sad because I have high expectations for myself.
(52:25):
But all I'll be like, yeah, I just didn't come
together for whatever reason. But like every freaking chapter it's
just rollicking. I mean, there's so much in there, and um,
I can on your book then everything is magic. I mean,
I don't know, I just I after all these years,
(52:45):
I kind of know what readers enjoy, and there's just
so much in here that fans are going to spoon
up and uh. And it's not just feel like there's
little diversions about this and that, and Tiger makes them.
He's got these cameos that are hilarious and there's there's
just so many little funny moments and insightful things. And yeah,
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I'm I'm excited. I can't wait for this to be
out in the world. I think people are gonna lose
their minds. It's just so fun to read. But anyway,
I'm not done yet. I mean, I've still got another
another week at least of hard work. But actually, you know,
my deadline was December one, and I wasn't sure I
was even gonna make it, you know, back in the summertime,
late summer. But I think I'm actually gonna get done
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like a week earlier, to be unbelievable. So I know,
yeah that I'm sure my publisher will be happy about that.
But I'm thank you. It's been it's been a challenge.
I mean, and now, you know, like basketball season started
two weeks ago, so I'm coaching the Carmel High girls
j V basketball team on the head coach, and that
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takes like a ridiculous amount of time. It's not only
the two hours a day in the gym plus driving
back and forth, which would be like half an hour
each way, and but it's the pract this plan. I mean,
I have like a minute by minute practice plan, and
it takes a lot of thought to come up with
new things and and sequence it so it makes sense,
like sometimes each girl needs a ball, sometimes your partner stuff,
and then we're doing the systemic things. And I have
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five girls on my team who have never touched a
basketball before. Like there, they're freshmen. There, their athletes, they play,
but they play other sports, whether it's water polo or softball.
One girls on the JV football team, I mean, she's
a jock, but we had, you know, we have to
explain what what is traveling? What is three seconds in
the key? Like, I mean, so dealing with that, and
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then I have I have a nucleus of really good players,
and so trying to construct practice that makes sense for
everybody is a real challenge. So it's like my my
productivity on the book has dipped a little bit because
I'm just like so obsessed with you know, uh JV basketball.
But it's also fun. It fills me up with all
kinds of good feelings, like they're these girls are awesome
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and it's so much fun to be in the gym.
And just like in two weeks, some of the some
of the newbies have improved so much. Is like a joke,
like and it's very it's very gratifying for them. Of
course it's exciting and fun. So it's gonna be hell
of a season. But I just gotta survive, get the
book done, get through Thanksgiving, and then I can you know,
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exhale a little bit. But by the way though, um,
i'll put this out there to any listeners. Next Saturday,
which is the twenty November, is the Wishbone Brawl at
goat Hill Park and I'm going to drive down and
write about it. Of course that's a notion side just
you know in the San Diego area, and Fred Couples
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is playing in it. Sander Shoffley, the gold medalists. Yeah,
so the Wishbone probably've been doing it. It's probably the
fifth or sixth annual. It's always around Thanksgiving and it's
just a super casual exhibition. There's no ropes, who walk
right down the fairway and the guys used all per
simmon um. So if you want to watch Fred Couples
hit a persimmon driver, that's like almost sexual, right and yeah,
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I don't need can have one. And I felt it move,
Yeah exactly. There's a there's a stirring in our in
our southern regions and yeah, and so it's um, Dean
Wilson's gonna play and then um, this guy who's the
course record holder at the Goat who's just you know,
uh not not a not a tour player echelon. So
it's gonna be a once a lifetime experience for him
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and all the money goes to support, um, you know,
the Goat Hill, uh Caddy Academy and improvements on the
golf course and it's just a really neat day. Matt
Janelle is gonna be the m c you know the
fact that Collective is sort of co hosting the whole thing,
and uh, there's plenty of links outre if you just
google Wishbone Brawl, it'll come up. You have to buy tickets.
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All the money goes to charity and it's really a
super cool experience. So that's that's on the horizon. Um.
And oh this is also this is a very hard
maybe I need to figure out. UM I want to
go down to Melbourne and cover the sand Belt Classic.
That's Jeff Ogilvie's new tournament and you know it's at
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Royal Melbourne at Kingston Heat. It's gonna be the greatest
tournament golf and um, I need to get some sort
of travel exemption from the Australian government. But we can
make that happen. I'm I'm gonna go cover that, which
would be flat out amazing, and I know, yeah, for sure,
we got to mobilize our people. But so yeah, there's
some fun stuff coming up, but we have we have
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future um, we have future podcast to deep dive on
all that. But all this has kind of been perculating
and it's all just popped into So yeah, there's all
kinds of excitement around here. But well we'll get into that.
This this is your podcast, Christina. Next week we can
talk about other stuff. So yeah, well we'll definitely run
down the Wishbow next week. That's that's gonna be awesome.
So it's going to be great. That's so exciting. Thank
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you so much for telling me about that so late
and it happening well, I mean they only announced a
few days ago because it was hard to get guys
to commit, like Ogilvy was gonna try and come over
from Australia. But yeah, because he had a walk off
ace that that basically won the one the Wishbone Brawl
a couple of years ago. It's like an I sort
of some my iconic moment at Go Hill and just
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flat out dunked it on the last hole and oh,
my god, that's a great days. So yeah with that
semi amph the amphitheater setting awesome. Yeah yeah yeah. Um
so anyway, all kinds of excitement, but we'll um, we'll
run it back next week. Anyway. Congratulations to you to
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the listeners who've been here like all year slash all season. Um,
it's cool. You can be a part of this journey
as well. So um you want to you want to
send us home, Christina, Yes, let's send us home. So
thank you to everyone for listening to yet another episode
of Full Scent with Christina Kim and Alan Schipnuk Fine
Hello, and welcome to another episode of bull Send with
Christina Kim and Alan Chipnuk. It is only a couple
of hours after the last put dropped at the Pelican
LPG Championship. It was an action impact week for our girl,
c K. So proud of you. You played your butt off,
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secured your card for next year. Obviously you were in
the hunt today. It didn't quite go the way you wanted,
but you held tough and you got it done and
take it away. Tell me everything. I'm just gonna sit
back and listen. Um, but what a week? Yeah, I
should we go from the semi second hole backwards? Or
should we go from Monday when I had to play
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in the fucking Monday qualifier? And so it's it's it's
this whole thing. One the field closed, I was not
in the field. That was the first alternate, and I
contact it. Uh Tim Aaronson with Outlier Management Group. Love
those guys. They used to represent me back when they
worked with Octagon and then they had left the company
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um to start their own thing, and so messaged him
because gosh was around Halloween. Before the field closed, the
tournament had announced that Maria Fosse and Stephanie Meadow had
received the first and second excuse me, second and third
sponsors invites, and I was like, phil um, are you
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guys going to continue in with that same philosophy? And
can I at least throw my name in the hat again? Maybe? Please?
And so Tim was like, well, we're still you know,
we're working on a bunch of different things. We're trying
to figure out who we're going to give the invites to,
but we are definitely you know, you're you're definitely in contention.
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And I'm like, okay, cool. And so all of last
week goes by, and the or excuse me, all of
two weeks ago go by, or I don't know a
day is it? Ship um? Anyway, the week before the
tournament goes by, and I'm like texting Tim because he
was like, I'll let you know in forty eight hours.
And I texted him and I was like, so, I know,
it's been forty six He told me to wait forty eight,
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but but your girls die in here. And Tim was like,
we're still we're still working out a few things. I
promise I'll let you know as soon as I can.
I was like, okay, He's like at this point. Uh.
You know obviously like we're we're not going to tell you,
you know, and we're not the we're not the actual
decision makers. So our recommendation is to make sure that
you go to the Monday qualifier to see if you
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can't play your way in that way, and then if
you don't, like obviously everything has to kind of get
reset anyway. So I'm like, son of a bitch, and
so there, you know, obviously there's any number of players
that you could think of that might be part of it,
you know, whether it's say it's if it's Cheyenne Woods,
whether you think, you know, could it be Gnatly Goull
This she has to every heart. She's just beautiful, tall
girl that lives in Tampa. Like, there's any number of
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people that they could have thought of. And so I'm like, okay, well,
so I go prepare for the mone To qualifier. Turns
out the Airbnb that I had booked, um I I
didn't read the fine print closely enough, because it turns
out it was a clothing optional resort that I had
rented my condo in, and the amount of men that
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were donald ducking around the place, I only saw one
pair of titties the entire time that I was there,
And um, I saw a lot of other bits though,
and it was it was. And so people at those
couple of places are the ones you don't want to
see naked. It's like I went to a water park
in Orlando, and all the moms in a thong were
the ones you didn't want to have in a thong.
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Like it's a weird self selecting audience. I can't even
explain why. But let's let's not get bogged down in that. Yeah,
I will say, like, I have no problem with nudity.
Everybody is born nude. Everybody, you know, everybody's nude underneath
their clothes. Uh. My only thing is it's like because
I don't care. I mean, I'll flop about freely. I
look like Dr Zoidberg from Futurama with the shell off,
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or or I tell people I look like a sharp
a running. But you know, it's like I I because
I don't care. You know, if I'm in the buff,
but I like to think, you know, would other people
be uncomfortable with it? But if you're technically in a
clothing auctional resort, the whole bag, you're comfortable that you're
not supposed to. Yeah, everyone should just be like okay.
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And I remember because I had to walk up one
flight of stairs to get into my condo, the condo
that was right at the base at the top of
the stairs. As the days went on, the guy was
losing more clothes and the temperatures were dropping, and my
last full day there, he was completely in the buff
and I was like, okay, I gotta go inside my place.
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And I'm just like I I first to start if
you like, hey, how's it going, Yeah, Airbnb, and then
it was just like hi there, how are you? And
then it was like hi, and then it was just
like not, you know, like just avert the eyes and
walk off. So that was before the tournament started. Great moments,
And I mean you would think that they wouldn't be
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the fine print. It would be like in the headline
clothing optional condo, right like if you come on, that's
the kind of thing you probably need to make clear. Yeah,
nudist colony, that would be. That would be helpful. That
would be helpful. But either way, I mean, it was
still it was it was a nice spot, so it's
all good. Um, And I had, you know, I had
a good time anyway, because I was like, you know what, Yeah,
these people are free, like living your life. My only
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thing is like, it's kind of cold, like when it
got cold you well, I mean I don't care about that.
They all fit and plus you know, summer showers, summer growers.
But you know, it's just if it's cold and you
live in Florida, Like the Floridian mindset is that it's
extra cold, so yeah, you should probably be wearing clothes.
Maybe that's why everyone was Donald ducking because they had
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to wear a shirt to try and stay warm. So anyway,
the Monday qualifier starts. I've got my my buddy John
Claire Um catting for me. Who's in here? Okay, so
what is the mindset? You're playing a Monday, but you
know you might have this, uh you know, second chance.
There's there's this safety net, perhaps the sponsor's exemption. So
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can you block that out of your mind and just
go all in on the on the Monday? Are you
still thinking, well, if I don't play my best, it's okay,
I still have another shot at it. No, my brain
was like, you know what, just play your way in
and then that way you don't have to make the
tournament feel obligated or feel guilty if they don't give
you an invite. My thoughts were. And also I had
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applied for one of the sponsors invites prior to the
announcement of Maria FOSSi and Stephanie Meadow before they became
eligible to play by merchant virtue of their own merit,
and I got shot down there. So I was like,
I can't rely on them, Like, you know, I know
they want to help me, but you know, at the
end of the day, it truly is at the discretion
of the sponsor. And I firmly believe, like, hey, what
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are we going to do? Be like, hey, give us
millions of dollars and we won't give you anything in return,
you know, aside from like you know, the TV and
the ads and all that stuff. But like, you know,
you got to make sure that you're you're willing to
give as well as you know, take millions. So I
was like, no, the Monday is the only way I
get in. Go play the Monday. I'm three under through
fifteen holes, sorry steen holes finished bogey bogey, missed by one,
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and so I'm just like, oh my god, I was like, okay, well,
you know what, fuck it, I'm first alternate. That's I'm
first alternate. The last thing I want is for anyone
to fall ill or become injured or anything. I want
some bitch to be like, oh my god, I'm in Bermuda.
I completely forgot to remove my name from the list
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and leave it at that. You know, I don't want
anyone to have, you know, cause any issues. So just
by the way, for your fans, of which I'm the
president of the fan club. Like when when I saw
you missed by one, I was gonna text you for
play by play, but I was like, no, maybe that's
not the best because yeah, I know, because I wasn't
you know, there was not any like real uh, I
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didn't know what happened. I obviously knew it probably came
down to the last hole, the last put, and I
was dying, dying to know. But in a rare showing
of discretion, I was like, Okay, I'm just gonna let
it go. So, bitch, you use that on Monday, but
you couldn't use that today. Okay, I waited until you're
on the gold person you couldn't see it. Yeah, alright,
Well just as a spoiler alert. So you know, Christina
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had said she was two weeks ago like I don't
want to do a podcast, like I just want to
focus totally this week on secure in my car. And
of course I respected that, So you know, she gets
off to this flying start. I'm jumping ahead, but I'm
dying to tweet about it. But I don't even want
to be a voice in the chorus. So I didn't
say anything until she was in the middle of her
round today, like you finally, I'm gonna let it out
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and just say how proud I am over And then
the second, like literally the second I pressed send, a
few things went sideways. But let's go back. So all right,
hold on real quick, though, I will say you had
it was the six words you could not use. I
don't want to jinx it. And then you go up
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the worst time. I mean, I've had some ill times
in my life. That's at the top of the list.
We'll get to that, all right, So we'll get to
that heartbreak at the Monday. So now you're you're in
the waiting game. You're still obviously grinding to get your
game ready. I as soon as I know that I'm out,
I put my ass in my car and drive the
nearly one hour from the Monday qualifier course to the
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Pelican Golf Club and I get a phone call from
Tim Aaronson and he was just like, Hey, I told
you I would let you know. I'm just letting you know,
I saw that you miss a qualifier by one. We
are going to choose to wait until after the qualifier
because the LPG regulations state the Tuesday prior to the
tournament week at five pm Eastern. If I'm not mistaken,
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is the off day. It's it's considered our our commitment deadline. Uh,
there's a late withdrawal deadline that is five pm the
Friday of the week prior to the tournament, and the
sponsors exemptions are granted until either five pm or one
hour after the conclusion of the Monday qualifier, whichever one
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happens later. And then in theory, if they choose not
to give out the exemptions at all, it just go
to alternates one and two. And so he was like,
We're just I'm letting you know, we're gonna, you know,
use our you know, stay within the guidelines and wait
one hour after the qualifier. And I was like, okay,
I you know, I appreciate you calling me and letting
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me know that I'm telling you my asses driving to
the golf course right now because at present, i'm first
alternate and I want to make sure that I'm ready
to tee it up on Thursday if I if something
were to happen and somebody were to withdraw, That's where
I'm at. And so I'm on the driving range and
hitting some ball. Was talking with a couple of girls
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and Chantelle Shantell in the cabe she used to be
with the Golf Channel. She she pops up and she's like, hey,
you know, we're just chatting and chatting, you know, and
you know, just talking about a bunch of stuff and everything,
and we're talking about the PGA Tour live stuff, and
you know, we're just we're just gabbing. And I get
a I don't realize this because I have my phone
like on my face. Yes, And then I decided to
(11:28):
set it down on my Gepod Pro, which is a
it's a it's it's basically a stick with a magnet
on it so you can film your own videos. Um,
and I love those guys with g pod prow and
so I stuck it on there because I was taking
a couple of down the line videos and stuff, and
I just like, I'm like, all right, we've been talking
for like twenty minutes. I like, grab my phone. I look,
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I have two text messages from Tim Aaronson and one
miscall And I opened it up and he was like,
call me right away or else we're going to give
the spot to Natalie. And I was like, you know,
not realizing Nadali's in Saudi Arabia, and so I call
him and I'm like Aaron. I was like Timmy, Timmy,
how how how are you? And he was just like, ship,
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we just gave the spot to Natalie. And I was
like what oh And he was like, I'm just kidding.
And I saw I said this in an interview. I
swear to god, I lept up six ft in the
air like I was. I jumped up and down I was.
I looked like I was on a pogo stick. I
was rolling around in the grass like a dog that
just came across an old cow shit like I was.
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I was just beyond elated and I was like, oh
my god. And it was just like it was. It
was the most unreal moment ever, and Tim was like, UM,
look to your left and up and I look, I'm
on the ground. I look up and they're in the
second story of the building, immediately behind the driving range,
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which I think they used for like indoor teaching and
things like that, if I'm not mistaken, and that's where
they had their tournament office set up. And he's like
standing out the window like pointing at me, and UM,
I was just like oh. I was like, well, I'm
not ashamed, Like, you know, I'm just letting you guys
know you're making the right decision. Like I truly am
so stoked, and I cherished the opportunity to be able
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to play this week. And then I was like all right,
like it's fucking go time. And and at that point,
so going back a little bit, Sorry I keep jumping
back and forth. Um, I talked, I've spoken with Todd
and like we had been talking, you know, the week before,
and I was, you know, I was so stressed out.
I was so stressed out for three weeks straight and
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my brain wasn't even thinking. And uh, we've been you know,
we've been talking about you know, like talking about the
swing and talking about you know, all kinds of stuff.
And then I was just like it was Sunday and
I was like, okay, I'm gonna be like a foe,
crazy needy girl kind of thing, like do you wanna
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do you want to come? And it texted me because
I said, you know, my buddy John's going to caddy
for me in the Monday qualifier, and he was just
like all right. He was like, well, he's like I
did a final pack already. He's like, I've been packed
for a week. And I was like, oh my god.
I didn't I for some reason because I was so
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stressed and so needy, like I became I don't know,
I wasn't thinking and I was just like, oh my god,
like my brain did not work whatsoever. I was like,
there's no excuse. I'm like, I'm buying your ticket right now.
So we confirmed on Sunday afternoon, my time, and he
flew out Monday morning and landed like Monday just before midnight,
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and I was just like yeah, and I like, I
didn't uh. I didn't want to tell him until he landed,
just had his dress outside, like I let him. I
missic qualifier by one. I told him about the new
Beist colony and like whatever whatever, and then like I
did finally, I was like I finally broke it to him.
I was like, yeah, like let fucking do this. Yeah,
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I mean this is the and of course, like you know,
Ryan French of the Firefiit Collective is has shown a
very bright spotlight on this. But just the razor thin
margin between making it or not in professional golf, and
for you, it comes. You know, it could be one
put on the Monday qualifier, It could have been one
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more girl on the sponsors exemption list, and however, those
decisions get made, and you know, one didn't go your
way and one did and now you've got have a
chance to control your own destiny in the town. It's
incredible turn of events. So quite quite literally, quite literally,
I it was. It was unreal because I think I
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mentioned it before. I was points one oh one, one
oh two. We're all in the field, So I mean
I could have finished you know, any any anywhere on
the money list are the points less? Excuse me, the
race to see any pointless? And yeah, I mean I
will tell you right now. Monday qualifiers are a different
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type of golf altogether. It is completely different, and um,
it sounds like I'm complaining. Uh, it's more. It's more
that I'm finding, you know, ways for there to be improvement.
Is that the qualifier course played so much longer than
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the tournament course did. And because you know, it was
it was pretty wet. But I mean like we had
like four hundred and thirty yard par four's dead into
the wind with a backpen, you know, and and um,
you know, and it was like a literal like, oh
my god, did you see that that tumble? I got
two yards of rolled nice kind of a thing, you know.
And but you know, golf courses are always going to
be you know, victims to the elements and things like that,
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and different parts of the town are gonna you know,
be a little bit you know, more saturated than others,
different types of grass. Like I it's I at it,
it's a thing. But I was just like, god, damn,
like this shit stressful. Um so Monday, like Monday qualifiers
are no joke, Like it's it's it's a different mentality.
It's almost like a playoff where you have to make
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a birdie to win. You know, you can't play for
pars in a playoff. And it's the same thing with
those Mondays. It's like absolutely, you know, I love how
Monday qualifiers. A guy I'll shoot like one under and
then just walked to the parking lot of the turn.
He's like, I got no chance exactly exactly and and
and not to mention, I mean, any wonder like in
all honesty, any wonder that so many um, so many
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of these players you know, you get your you're fucking
it is exhausting, It is exhausting. Like I don't necessarily
consider myself as part of that you know, Monday qualifier,
qualifier class I get to start, you know, like I
just I just went and played somewhere else is basically
what ended up happening for me during the week. So like,
huge shout out to Lauren Coglin for um, you know
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she she won the Monday qualifier having shot three under
and then you know she she had a great week,
was able to retain her card, which was pretty sick. Um.
So I know she's a no link up girl, but
you know she's a buddy of mine. I'm super super
proud of her. And yeah, it was it's it's so
so so draining and um, but it's it's interesting because
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I think people were as focused on you and Lauren
as they were the top of the leader board, because
you know, we had no business up there. That's probably
what they were thinking. No, no, but I mean as
far as retaining your card, because all praise to Nully
and we will get into her because I know you
played there and you have a girl crush on her,
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but she already has three wins in a gold medal
this year, so if she doesn't win the Pelican, it's
still been an amazing year. I mean, this this, this
this wind did not change her life. It was cool.
I'm glad she I'm glad she snagged it, but ultimately,
you know, it doesn't really make a difference in her
day day existence. But you, Laura and all the other players,
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you were fighting for that top one spot. I mean
that is that is life or death, and you know,
metaphorically it's a big, huge deal. And so, uh, it
was cool. I mean, I got a lot of tweets
out the week about how you're doing. Uh, And obviously
the no Laying up community was focused on Lauren, and
it was cool. I mean, it just it's neat how
there's there's as much focus now almost on the the
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top of the leader board and the Bobba leader board.
There's like the tournament and within the tournament, and I
think fans are much more tuned into and and so
you know, you get off to a flying start, uh,
you know, first couple of rounds that it must have
felt so good with with all that, because obviously if
you missed the cut, you know, you're probably you're in
You're in really tough shape given everybody else in the field.
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So what is that that mentality? How do you how
do you balance between attacking and protecting those first two rounds? Well,
I mean and and part of it is, you know,
I and I've I've said before like Todd's like taking
half of Valium. You know, like he's just he's so
chilled out, and he has this amazing presence and this
incredible aura, and he's just there's just something like I
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can lean on him anytime I need to. And we were,
you know, like all week long, we worked in perfect
seink like I I you know, asked him for you know,
a handful of like you know, do you like this club?
At this club? And and you know it's he's he's
so great because he doesn't feel like he needs to
tell me what to do. Like he's like, I have
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full faith that you can hit. You can hit any
yardage with three clubs, you know, and I trust that
you know like what you're doing. And so knowing that
he has that faith in me puts more faith in me.
And the fact that he, you know, doesn't pull me
off of shots and things like that, like that makes me.
You know, it's one of those things where it's like
you don't feel like you second guess yourself, you know,
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and we're in perfect harmony every single time. Um. And
he he read a lot of really really good puts.
He read some great puts. Um, I will say, like
I feel like I could have been thirty under through
the first three rounds and honesty, like I missed so
I mean I missed probably half of the puts in
my first nine holes every day every day and um so,
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which was really really awesome. Um, but no, I just
I was like, Todd, this is if this is our
last event, like one, let's just have some fucking fun
and to like, there's nothing to lose at this point,
Like the only thing that can go wrong is if
if is if I get in my own way and
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you know, it was this was It was a nice
It was nice because I was able to sort of
get back, you know, like a fraction of what I
felt like when I won UM at the lord Ano
Choi Invitational presented by bonam x uh that sense of zen.
I don't get me wrong, I was scared shitless all
four days because that is like the Pelican Golf Club is.
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If you haven't played it, it's a phenomenal golf course.
It's especially for Florida. There is no rough between the
fairways and the bunkers. There's no rough between the bunkers
and the you know, there's fringe, but no rough between
the bunkers and the putting surface. They've got these shade runoffs,
they've got uh, you know, plenty of water, but not
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so much that you're like, well, we're obviously in Florida.
It is a spectacular property originally designed by Donald ross Um.
So there's just some pretty incredible complexes to the greens,
and you know, I was just like, let's just have
a fucking ball, like this was a gift, Like let's
just have some fun. And also like you know, it's
not like you know, I kind of joked about it,
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but it was like, you know, and also no pressure.
It's not like I want to make the entire Doyle
family and everyone with decks imaging and cannot uh uh.
Conica Minolta and everyone with outlier management looked like a
bunch of scrub by shooting one. You know. I was like,
I don't want them to look bad as well as
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there are a lot of people that this is involving.
It is something that I'm like, I was so honored
to be able to get the chance to tee it
up and that they believed in me, and their belief
in me, you know, they might have just been like, fun,
I give it to her, like I don't know, but
you know what I mean, like just the fact that
I was still given that you no, I I actually
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I talked with I talked with Tim. I was like
and I said, it was like, I feel like my
one motto was thank you, I'm sorry in the same breath,
and so he said, no, like you we we thought
about it, and this is awesome. We're giving you a
chance to to you know, write your own destiny, and
you know, we want you to succeed and you're great
for the game, you know, which I was just like,
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I don't know what you mean about that last part,
but thank you for giving me the chance to to
write my own destiny because you know, as a self
proclaimed and probably clinically uh proven control freak, you know
now that I can control ship as in control myself
let alone. You know, I can't control what, you know,
any of the girls behind me on the on the
points list are doing. Like at least I can control myself,
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and so that that gave me a sense of calm.
And yeah, it was just it was just easy golf,
like you know, I mean I had a really really
nice pairing for the first two days. Um, you know,
it was I had a couple of you know, I
had a nice practice round on Tuesday. It was nice
and late because Todd got in or late and I
was like, man, you might still be adjusting to the
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West Coast time or from the West Coast time, and
you know, just all kinds of stuff. I was like,
I was like, let's just go late. Uh we cheat
off like a half past twelve. We had a player
meeting at five, and I was like, surely all of
these girls that are between twelve and twelve twenty four
when we cheat off. Will understand that we all need
to finish and we should all be granted the opportunity
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to finish. We're on like whole fourteen, there's nobody behind us.
I'm like, if we don't finish by four fifty six,
heads are going to roll because I Am not going
to be late to our mandated player meeting. Um. And
and we did finish on time, made it over all
of that, and um, you know, it's just you know,
had had a really really nice pairing. Um, I had
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really good pairings all four days, to be honest, but yeah,
I mean the first two days I was just having fun.
You know. It was nice to have a clean scorecard
on Thursday, although it didn't feel like one because I
honestly I missed four puts in the front nine that
I felt like I should have made. Um, And you know,
it was, you know, a couple of puts you know,
towards the end of the round. But it was it
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was just so much fun. And again though it was stressful,
Like I don't know if it was like daylight savings
or what it was. I was exhausted by the end
of the round. Um. Yeah, well it's it's the emotion
you're pouring into it. I mean, there was so much
going on, so alright, so let you play two great
rounds and you put yourself right in the thick of
it Saturday. Your reward is a pairing with world number
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one Olympic gold medalists and everyone's favorite golfer, Nelly Korda.
So it's somewhat amazing. You guys hadn't played together until now.
But I guess there's a big age difference and all that.
So well, and realistically we also had we we run
on different schedules as well, like I don't know, like weeks,
I want to play earlier, she's playing late. The weeks
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I want to play late, she's playing early. Like you know,
we just had it just never happened. Also, by the way,
we had a brawling party, first public engagement like outside
of playing golf that I've attended, And there was a
concert Bye pit Bull Mr. Three oh five the pit
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Bull was there and he so I mean, like, I
I can, you know, I can I like his music.
I'm not like a ginormous fan. I can't think of
every you know, every song, every album because there's truly
two damn men need a name, amazing performer though he
had a seven person live band. The guitarist is this
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beautiful woman that also played the guitar, guitar and saxophone.
Excuse me he had. He brought six backup dancers that
were all legit tens like I would have flipped for
any of them. They were scored. It was this. It was,
honest to God, and it wasn't like one of those like, oh,
this is a private engagement, all staying for like twenty
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five minutes at you know, some some rich dudes daughter's
sixteenth birthday and then he's going to spoil her with
a Rolls Royce or something he like. And they had
like videographers there because they had the screens on either
side of the stage. Honest to God, the way that
you would have thought just by looking at the video
that it was the fucking v M as it was.
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Everything was first class and he laid it out the
entire time. He was on stage for over an hour
and a half private engagement. I saw him in a
super Bowl party. It was the same deal. I mean
it was. It was fun and I don't think there's
any ugly backup dancers in pit Bulls Bulls World for sure,
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Like that's that's a memory I have as well. But
they were ridiculous, and there was there was like a
five minute section when he was going to he went
to go change. He didn't out. He did a wardrobe change.
Like huge props to that as well, like super appreciative
as as a as an attendant of said concert, and
the entire band went um and they played salsa music.
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Everything was live and then one of the dancers did
an impeccable salsa uh uh dance. I don't even know
what you would call it. Like everything was top notch,
Like there was no halfassory whatsoever, not that I would
expect it from anybody that's being paid to like perform,
but it was legitimately one of the most impressive performances
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I've ever seen, even though it's not necessarily might go
to music. This is wardrobe change. He changed from white
suit into a white suit like anyway, so came out
with black pants and a black leather jacket that must
have weighed forty seven pounds. When he did eventually take
it off switched into a black suit. I was expecting Mr.
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World Why to be showing up in all white I
almost went to the party dressed in all white. But no,
he's evolving. So anyway, sorry, sorry, all right, that that
was a lot of pitbull content. Let's move on. So Nelly, yes,
now now now, So yeah, I had never even so
much just played a practice round with Nellie and um,
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you know, I was just like, hey, you know, like
get to the first teacher, like yeah, She's like I'm
She's like, I'm excited. We've never been paired together. Like
it's crazy. I think that in all these years we've
never been paired together. I'm like, how long you've been
on tour, you know, because it's just a well compared
to me, you know, well yeah, but I'm entering my
twentieth year, so just you know, ingest in Jess, I
was like, well, like how long have you been on tour? Um?
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But no, I was just like, no, dude, this is
going to be awesome. And I had tweeted the night
before because I was also pared to stay young kids.
I was like, I cannot wait to be out driven
by a collective hundred and sixty yards on every freaking
hole I stayed within like anywhere from like thirty to
fifty yards of of of of Nelly on almost every drive.
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I was like, okay, excuse me, you're bragging about being
within fifty yards. Okay, Christia, Yeah, that's a huge accomplishment
for me. I could be her mother quite literally, Like
I outdrove say Young a couple of times. Like it
was just like one of those things was like, excuse me,
Like this was kind of a thing. I'm sorry, I
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that was that was a feather in my cap for me.
I was stupid by that. I'm just I'm just giving
me a hard type. I know. Nellie's right ahead, Yeah, no,
she's she was. Yeah. So that actually that made me
feel a lot better. Um that yeah, I mean it
was like we both Burdie the first hole and then
like we're just like we're talking about like life, talking
about her boyfriend, talking about like her dog, talking about
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like just anything and everything under the sun. And I
was just like more and more enamored with her as
a round went on, because you know, when you when
you watch her, like, obviously she's very kind, she's um,
you know, obviously we talked about how telegenic she is.
She's TV does not do her justice. Pictures do not
do her justice. She needs to be in three dimensions, um,
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and you know, but she's she's not you know, she's
not like saying me like I will sit there and
I'll talk to a tree like you know, like she's
she's she's much more introverted than I am, um, which
doesn't necessarily mean much of anything, to be perfectly honest.
So it was like Robin Williams or I mean, that's
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that's the standard. We're all more introverted than New York
Christina okay fair, but um. Like one thing that I
was really impressed was was like you know, because it's
like if she was like, dude, you talk too much,
like I would have been like, oh, ship, I'm sorry,
like I I didn't realize I was like, you know,
distracting you or this or that or where she didn't
give a fuck, like I'd be talking to her about
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all kinds of ship and she just she was all
in on it. She never was dismissive of me, like
she was patient, she like always like and she also
she had signed the social contract in that I would
ask her a question, she would answer it, and she
would ask me a question and actually listen to my answer,
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like I was just like you're it really is it
really really is there girls I've known for five years,
I'm still waiting on my first fucking question. And so
like the fact, and and it was it was easy
talking like you know, like and we wouldn't necessarily it
was like there'd be a there were a couple of
topics that were like not necessarily easy, but it's just like,
you know, how are you doing? You know, how is
long distance going? Or you know, what are your plans
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on this or that? Do you want to have kids?
I know you're still a puppy yourself, but you know,
like where are you at right now? You know, and
and just all these like really you know, just interesting questions,
and she gave thoughtful answers. I mean, I'm sure she
appreciated in that golfers in general can be a little
standoffish in the tournament setting and um, I think especially
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pressure packed into the season event. Everyone's in their own
little world. And for her it's probably fun to have
someone to engage with and who was obviously interested in her.
And I mean, maybe you deserve a small piece of
her victory because she probably enjoyed the round and relaxed
her and you know, can you get can you get
five percent? You think no, no, but no, honestly don't no.
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I mean, trust me, there are times when I've been
not like outwardly told you talk too much, you're a distraction.
But it's like if someone giels kind of like a
dismissive answer, just kind of like you know what, wherever,
Like she was fully engaged, Like that was huge. So
I don't know if you remember her. I played with
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her at the proms in San Diego. Yeah. Um, And
one of my takeaways besides everything that you said, was
her incredible economy of motion, like she just it's like
it's hard to really express, but she moves so gracefully
and she's completely contained, like there's no fidgeting, there's not
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a second of wasted anything. Like it's she's just so
inward and then it's like it all gets channeled through
her golf club like it's just like she's conserving her
her cheek and then dam like the ball is explodes
off the face. It's it's a little startling because she
everything about her gentle like her voice and her manner
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and the way she moves, and it's like you feel
like this is like relaxing to be in her presence.
You know, she got this very soft laugh all of it,
and she steps up and then the violence when when
her club hits the ball. It's it's really it's a
little bit like Dustin Johnson. Um, you know it's I
mean Dustin's obviously you can see as a jock, and
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you can see that with nell A too. But even
so it's just like it's like not nothing is wasted.
Not there's no words, there's no expression, there's no motion
that that's ever used when it doesn't have to be.
And that was one of my takeaways, Like it was
just kind of cool to be around that. Her energy
very much, so very it's and that was one thing
I was that I had commented was just that, like
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you know, I said, everything she does is done with grace,
you know, even in how she interacts with people, you know,
and and um, she's very graceful. She's like you said,
it's it's it's very it's efficient, but not in like
a robotic sense. It's just that like but she has
she has she like girls got flow, she's got flow.
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And it's just like I was just I was so
I honest to god, was so surprised because um like
Lydia very much the same way, and that she's just
she's just so chill. She like she's no fun to
talk shit about people with like and it's like not
that you're like saying actual bad things about someone, but
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just like when you're just like shooting the ship kind
of talking about someone, and she's always like yeah, but
you know she you know, she'll be like oh yeah,
but you know, like uh, you know, Christina doesn't talk
about when she goes and volunteers are a sup kitchen,
you know, and people like, well, you're no fun. We're
just we're just we're not actually saying that someone is
a bad human being. But you know, like she always
see the best in people and it's nice to talk trash,
I get it, she lets you. And Nellie is the
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same way. So that being said, I am so pumped
that we've got people like those two that the next
generation of golf is in their hands, because there are
there are there are some people that could I mean
truly everybody, but there are some people that could definitely
take a lesson in watching her interactions with people. Um
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of the world. Lydia cos like one of my favorite
athletes on the planet and you sport human beings and
human beings. Yeah, and and Nelly is just's he's a
world class So yeah, that that's cool, all right. So
you play very well alongside Nellie. You're right there going
into the final round. So now this to me is
like a little bit of a mind funk where of
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course you want to a tournament that's the ultimate goal
and that that takes care of your future for a
nice long while, but you can't like come out of
the gate trying to knock down flags and do anything
crazy that kind of attitude. Ship. Um, so what is
your mentality going into this round where there's there's a
tournament in the tournament of trying to you know, the
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points race, and then there's the actual tournament that you
have what you asked to win. So how how do
you feeling when you step to the first tea? Ah?
So I had done a really good job of controlling
my emotions all week long. Um, it may not have
looked like it if anyone was watching the telecaster was
following along. That was me controlling my emotions. I was.
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I had noticed how high my heart rate was like
the entire day, and nothing I could do no amount
of breathing I could do could quell that. I felt
like I had this tightness in my chest and in
my in my back, like I was just like it was.
It wasn't that it felt like something needed to crack,
but I was like something something like I don't know
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if someone like accidentally stuck a pencil between my but
cheeks and I didn't realize it, and I was walking
around like that all day. But I was just clenched,
and I was acknowledging that I was clenched. And so
it was. It was tough. It was it was a
bit cooler. It was actually beautiful. It was like seventy
degrees out, but there was a little bit of a
there was a good breeze um and I just, you know,
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I wasn't making as good a contact of the golf
ball as I had wanted to. The wind was kind
of altering a few things, and I wasn't adjusting in
the way that I could have and or should have.
And then like and on top of that, like I
couldn't stroke a hat, Like I couldn't make a put
to save my life. And that was the hardest thing
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for me to accept. Like I just couldn't like I couldn't.
I couldn't get the ball to like end up near
the hole. My touch was a bit off, you know.
I think I think I might have maybe like not underdressed,
but you know, once it drops below seventy, like and
it sounds kind of silly, but this is my job,
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This is my work. I should have brought like a
neck gaiter or my ear mouths or something like. I
just I just kind of felt cold all day and
it showed with with my putter as well. Like I
was just cold all day and everything was off by
like a degree, a degree off with you know, whether
it was the angle of attack that I was swinging out,
whether it was you know, the line that I was
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trying to take, whether it was this, whether it was
out there was just a lot of you know, just
near missus, which kind of felt a little bit on
the familiar side, but was supremely irritating seeing how like
twenty four hours ago it was not so it was
it was it was, it was. It was a tough day, um,
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you know, and and yeah, like I was just like
I didn't ever really get like mad mad um. I
played with Patty Tata of a nick kit and we
were thank you. Um we were on fourteen is the
part five and she she mishit her t shot and like,
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because I mean that girl long. People say Nelly long,
that girl long. And yeah, and she she pushed her
drive into a bunker and buried her driver on the
tea box and I was like, as I still got hit,
and that's in no way ever, not in some form
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of my vision. And so I like went over there
and like tapped it down with my driver and like
tapped it down with my feet and then went and
teet off or whatever. But it was, yeah, it was
just it was I there's it's really it's really hard
to like quantify or to articulate what the day was like.
It was just tough. And it was again I couldn't
struck a cat. I felt like I couldn't club a
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seal like I couldn't, you know, I mean I I
couldn't hit the side of a barn if I was
five ft in front of it. Like it was just
it was just one of those things. And I talked
to Todd and I said, you know, my tempo is
a little bit off, and you know, like I I
it's like everything went cold, like metaphorically as well as
in a literal sense, like my fingers were cold. I
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couldn't couldn't quite feel anything, like everything was just getting cold.
And and you know, it's to think that if I
had shot even par like you know, let alone five
fucking over like, it would have been a completely like
Lord only knows where I would have ended up. And
so that was that was today. It was a tough
pill to swallow. But with everything going on the previous
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six days, like I'm I'm honestly like, I'm super proud
of how I played those first three days, and today's
just like I'm tired. Yeah, no, I mean there's there's
an emotional toll. I mean it for sure like you
were everything you went through that there that's gonna hit
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you at some point. But nice if it was tonight
at eight pm, But I'm not surprised you woke up
and everything fell off. I mean, your nervous system had
been through a heck of a lot. And but honestly,
like you know, I was watching I so I was
watching the Front nine on the live stream, and I
could see you didn't have your best stuff, But I
mean you got around an even par. And that was
when I tweeted your head to the back nine. I
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was like, I'm so proud of see k. I mean,
there's so much on the line and she's just gotten
it out. And uh, you know, obviously you made a
couple of bad swings on the back nine that that
cost you. But the bottom line is, I mean you
could have blown up and shot a million on the
back the way you were feeling, and you still held
in there through in a birdie made enough pars and
and got got it in the barn. So there's gotta
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be some satisfacts and knowing like as much as a
struggle as it was and as much pressure as you're under,
bottom line, you kept your card and that was the
goal at the start of the week. And is that
the obviously a little disappointed about how the day played out,
but is that the overriding emotion is just pure relief. Yes, yes,
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that's that. My number one goal coming into this week
was just keep my card. And I mean I had
set the bar low, like obviously everybody wants to win
every week, there's no question about that, but I was
just like, just fucking get into the tournament, you know,
And then you know, and then it's like, all right,
like obviously you want to play well, but you don't
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know how much everyone else has been practicing for you know,
this the you know one all season as well as
during these weeks off, and you know, you don't know
how hungry everyone else is. Like don't get don't get
ahead of yourself, just trying to stay in the moment,
and you know, and then I I put together a
really good round and this sounds super silly, but you know,
I shot five under in that first round and I
looked to see where the cut line was after the
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first day, like I just wanted to know, like, okay,
like how is everyone playing? How is everyone feeling? I
gotta say that course is so hard. Like I think
if if if someone would have pulled Todd before the
tournament started, after the practice round and after the pro am,
you probably would have been like, you know, if she,
if we can get around one or two under, you know,
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every couple of every day or so, like we'd be
pretty happy with that, you know, a little one going
out and you know, shooting fourteen under in the first
three rounds and and in all honesty, missing half of
the puts in the front nine that I legitimately could
have made. I could have, honest to god been thirty under, um,
you know, for through the first three rounds and not
as in like, oh my god, I should have been
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thirty under. It was like legit, like hitting really good
shots and and just missing holes and things like that,
you know, and those all those misses were like me
reading puts bad Todd. Todd was a fun getting rock
star all week, um, And so for me, it was
just like you know what, like you just gotta remember, like,
look at where you were six days ago, you know
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you and I did the math. If I had stayed
first alternate and I didn't get the sponsors invite and
everything else panned out the way that it ended up
panning out, I would have finished one oh one on
the CIMA points list. How fucked is that? Well? Absolutely insane.
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There's a lot going on to I mean, you've talked
in previous podcasts about how because the pandemic they're using
the two thousand and nineteen criteria first start and that
that negatively affected you. Um, and even the last month
even you've been doing some pretty major swing changes, and
you know, you hear this all the time when swing changes,
you you have to master it on the on the
range first, then you have to mas master in turnament conditions,
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and then has to hold up under pressure. And so
you did a heck of a job. And you know
Sunday is always going to be the ultimate test when
you're in the middle of a swing change and you
know you're you're not quite there, but you've obviously made
a huge amount of progress into the last few weeks.
So that's got to be exciting as as you look
forward as well. Absolutely, I'm I'm stoked, like I'm I'm
probably not going to bathe for the next ten days,
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but I'm you know, I'm I'm like like to an extent, Yes,
I am disappointed in not playing in the cimeme UM
toward Championship this week. There was one of two spots
that would have allotted me the opportunity to play UM.
It would have been if I finished first, I would
have jumped into the into fifty one I think of
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the points lest this was what was projected. Or if
I finished second, that would have gotten me to sixty,
like mid sixties, and even that might not have been
enough to get in. And the way I see it
my off season starts one week sooner than everyone else's.
I also don't have the pressure from the CIMME toward
championship riding on my shoulders, So I get to give
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myself a couple of days extra rest and be able
to get back on it like sooner than anyone else,
and be more prepared than anybody else at the start
of the season. And I get to actually play in
the state of Florida at the beginning of the season.
I'm pretty sure based on the numbers. Yeah, that's awesome. Well,
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you know, it's been a journey, Like we've been doing
this podcast all season long, and there's there's been adversity, right,
and you've been honest about about some of the challenges,
and that that's I think why the fans have been
on your side because they've they've been on this journey
with you for a long time and there's been a
lot of highs and there's been a few loads, and
so this this week was kind of a microcosm of
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the whole season. Like it, Uh, there's a lot of
great stuff and there was challenges, but you know, you're
still standing. So I'm super proud of you that it's
it's really it was a great offer and not for
real and um, you knowing for the listeners, it's it's
been fun to experience the highs and the lows, and
I'm glad you have a happy ending. It's not it's
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not a Hollywood ending. You know. That would have been
you making a thirty footer on the last hole to
win the tournament. That's Hollywood. But this is a reality.
Like you, it was a grind and you kept your
card and you're in a position to really you know,
it's a springboard for next season. So I'm happy fourteen
under through three rounds. Like what fun do I think
I am? Yeah, I mean that's I mean yeah, and
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you know I play shot for shot with Nelly on Saturday.
Like there's a lot of great stuff there. So again,
you gotta give yourself a little more time for for
the swing changes to bake in and um, and it's
hard if you haven't had a chance to contend for
a tournament in a while. Um, it's not easy to
put yourself in that position. So uh, you know, I
would just say congratulations and onward, Well, thank you, Alan, No,
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this is I'm I'm not gonna lie. I'm super, super
stoked to get my off season started because I get
to you know, my team, I will sit there and well,
you know, assess everything. We'll figure out, you know, where
the best places are for improvement. We'll figure out, you know,
what the things I'm doing really well are, and you know,
sort of just be able to kind of tackle things
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on and and find a way to be able to
play golf stress free, and you know, just I'm just
happy to be able to live in the moment right now.
You know. Also, Todd and I went fly fishing a
few times over at the He grew up fifteen minutes
from here in Dunedin, Florida, and so he took myself
and and Danny Chapman, who caddies for alle Ewing um
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uh fishing a couple of times. And my cast is
getting a lot better, right Well, I mean that's another
That's another thing from this season is I mean, you've
talked a lot about how how much Todd has helped
you and you guys seem to have great chemistry and
he's got to know your game and you know, it's
not easy to find a caddy really really vibe with,
and you seem to have done that, so that that's
(49:53):
another positive. You know, you started out this year as
a question mark, like how is that relationship going to
be And it's all just have been solidified. And you know,
soph you guys are gonna be back at it next year,
like you'll be way ahead of where you were. You know,
he's got all the institutional knowledge, he knows the courses.
Now you know it's your game. Like there's there's a
lot of a lot of pluses that came out that relationship.
To no doubt, no doubt, he's a rock star and
(50:16):
he I really I don't know if he realized that
he signed up to be, um, you know, helping me
with my swing, catting for me having a pat my
head when I need it, um, you know psychologists. At times,
he's like Sigmund Freud out there, my fly Gilly as
it turns out, like the the the poor guy, like
(50:38):
you know, let alone, like the life that he has
to live outside of like a tournament round and and
the life that he has at home, you know, with
his with his girlfriend and his daughter. Um Marley, dude,
she's like five ft five or five ft six now
she might be like seven inches taller than when you
saw her last year. I'm sure that's right. Yeah, she
(51:00):
was a sweetheart. Yeah it's neat that I yeah, no,
I I'm happy I got to know Todd and his
daughter a little bit because a little more insight into
your relationship. So that's great stuff. Well, all right, what
are we what's going on? No? No, no, no, no?
How's the book coming along? Like we? Deadline is in
a couple of weeks. How are you happening? Um, I
(51:23):
have there's one more chapter. It's not even a long one.
I'm so close I can taste it. But before I'm
now going back and doing some deep fact checking, rewriting passages,
and I'm adding stuff that I've been meaning to add
for a while or came up, Like I want to
get everything the first like nineteen chapters totally in order.
(51:45):
So when I when I finished, when I put that
last little period on that last sentence, like I really
will feel like I'm done. So um, it's yeah, it's
this Michelson book is it's out of control. Like it's
absolutely out of control. It is so much fun. As
I go back and there's things that I wrote, you know,
a few months ago, I haven't really touched and and
(52:05):
I just keep plowing forward. And so as I'm going
back and improving these chapters, it's like, damn, that was fun.
I forgot how fun that was. And yeah, I mean
I'm a clear eyed critic of my own work, like
al right, something, and it's like like it's a you know,
it's a B plus or something, you know, which to
me would be sad because I have high expectations for myself.
(52:25):
But all I'll be like, yeah, I just didn't come
together for whatever reason. But like every freaking chapter it's
just rollicking. I mean, there's so much in there, and um,
I can on your book then everything is magic. I mean,
I don't know, I just I after all these years,
(52:45):
I kind of know what readers enjoy, and there's just
so much in here that fans are going to spoon
up and uh. And it's not just feel like there's
little diversions about this and that, and Tiger makes them.
He's got these cameos that are hilarious and there's there's
just so many little funny moments and insightful things. And yeah,
(53:08):
I'm I'm excited. I can't wait for this to be
out in the world. I think people are gonna lose
their minds. It's just so fun to read. But anyway,
I'm not done yet. I mean, I've still got another
another week at least of hard work. But actually, you know,
my deadline was December one, and I wasn't sure I
was even gonna make it, you know, back in the summertime,
late summer. But I think I'm actually gonna get done
(53:30):
like a week earlier, to be unbelievable. So I know,
yeah that I'm sure my publisher will be happy about that.
But I'm thank you. It's been it's been a challenge.
I mean, and now, you know, like basketball season started
two weeks ago, so I'm coaching the Carmel High girls
j V basketball team on the head coach, and that
(53:51):
takes like a ridiculous amount of time. It's not only
the two hours a day in the gym plus driving
back and forth, which would be like half an hour
each way, and but it's the pract this plan. I mean,
I have like a minute by minute practice plan, and
it takes a lot of thought to come up with
new things and and sequence it so it makes sense,
like sometimes each girl needs a ball, sometimes your partner stuff,
and then we're doing the systemic things. And I have
(54:13):
five girls on my team who have never touched a
basketball before. Like there, they're freshmen. There, their athletes, they play,
but they play other sports, whether it's water polo or softball.
One girls on the JV football team, I mean, she's
a jock, but we had, you know, we have to
explain what what is traveling? What is three seconds in
the key? Like, I mean, so dealing with that, and
(54:34):
then I have I have a nucleus of really good players,
and so trying to construct practice that makes sense for
everybody is a real challenge. So it's like my my
productivity on the book has dipped a little bit because
I'm just like so obsessed with you know, uh JV basketball.
But it's also fun. It fills me up with all
kinds of good feelings, like they're these girls are awesome
(54:56):
and it's so much fun to be in the gym.
And just like in two weeks, some of the some
of the newbies have improved so much. Is like a joke,
like and it's very it's very gratifying for them. Of
course it's exciting and fun. So it's gonna be hell
of a season. But I just gotta survive, get the
book done, get through Thanksgiving, and then I can you know,
(55:16):
exhale a little bit. But by the way though, um,
i'll put this out there to any listeners. Next Saturday,
which is the twenty November, is the Wishbone Brawl at
goat Hill Park and I'm going to drive down and
write about it. Of course that's a notion side just
you know in the San Diego area, and Fred Couples
(55:36):
is playing in it. Sander Shoffley, the gold medalists. Yeah,
so the Wishbone probably've been doing it. It's probably the
fifth or sixth annual. It's always around Thanksgiving and it's
just a super casual exhibition. There's no ropes, who walk
right down the fairway and the guys used all per
simmon um. So if you want to watch Fred Couples
hit a persimmon driver, that's like almost sexual, right and yeah,
(55:59):
I don't need can have one. And I felt it move,
Yeah exactly. There's a there's a stirring in our in
our southern regions and yeah, and so it's um, Dean
Wilson's gonna play and then um, this guy who's the
course record holder at the Goat who's just you know,
uh not not a not a tour player echelon. So
it's gonna be a once a lifetime experience for him
(56:20):
and all the money goes to support, um, you know,
the Goat Hill, uh Caddy Academy and improvements on the
golf course and it's just a really neat day. Matt
Janelle is gonna be the m c you know the
fact that Collective is sort of co hosting the whole thing,
and uh, there's plenty of links outre if you just
google Wishbone Brawl, it'll come up. You have to buy tickets.
(56:42):
All the money goes to charity and it's really a
super cool experience. So that's that's on the horizon. Um.
And oh this is also this is a very hard
maybe I need to figure out. UM I want to
go down to Melbourne and cover the sand Belt Classic.
That's Jeff Ogilvie's new tournament and you know it's at
(57:02):
Royal Melbourne at Kingston Heat. It's gonna be the greatest
tournament golf and um, I need to get some sort
of travel exemption from the Australian government. But we can
make that happen. I'm I'm gonna go cover that, which
would be flat out amazing, and I know, yeah, for sure,
we got to mobilize our people. But so yeah, there's
some fun stuff coming up, but we have we have
(57:24):
future um, we have future podcast to deep dive on
all that. But all this has kind of been perculating
and it's all just popped into So yeah, there's all
kinds of excitement around here. But well we'll get into that.
This this is your podcast, Christina. Next week we can
talk about other stuff. So yeah, well we'll definitely run
down the Wishbow next week. That's that's gonna be awesome.
So it's going to be great. That's so exciting. Thank
(57:46):
you so much for telling me about that so late
and it happening well, I mean they only announced a
few days ago because it was hard to get guys
to commit, like Ogilvy was gonna try and come over
from Australia. But yeah, because he had a walk off
ace that that basically won the one the Wishbone Brawl
a couple of years ago. It's like an I sort
of some my iconic moment at Go Hill and just
(58:08):
flat out dunked it on the last hole and oh,
my god, that's a great days. So yeah with that
semi amph the amphitheater setting awesome. Yeah yeah yeah. Um
so anyway, all kinds of excitement, but we'll um, we'll
run it back next week. Anyway. Congratulations to you to
(58:28):
the listeners who've been here like all year slash all season. Um,
it's cool. You can be a part of this journey
as well. So um you want to you want to
send us home, Christina, Yes, let's send us home. So
thank you to everyone for listening to yet another episode
of Full Scent with Christina Kim and Alan Schipnuk Fine
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