August 12, 2021 • 45 mins
Christina calls in from the Kingdom of Fife, where she is continuing her love affair with links golf and preparing for the Scottish Women’s Open. This gets Alan ruminating on the golf and cultural differences between Scotland and Ireland. They also discuss Nelly Korda’s golden performance in Tokyo and what her starpower means for women’s golf.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
All right, and welcome to another episode of Full Send
with Christina Kim and Alan SCHIPNUK You're great. UK Links
Land tour continues. So where exactly are you right now?
C K I am in the let's see, I'm on
the east coast of Scotland right now. We are getting
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ready and prepared for the Trust Golf Women's Scottish Open
held at dun Barney Links Golf Club, which I played
for the very first time on Saturday. And I have
you played it? I gotta tell you I have never
I I really you would never have guessed that this
golf course was built a year ago it opened in Yeah,
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I've seen the photos. It looks pure. I haven't been
over to that part of the world since the pandemia.
I'm I'm dying to get there. It looks, it looks
tell me about it. Yeah, it's it's a beautiful. It's it.
You know there there are new courses out there, like
I'm a big fan of the Renains Renaissance Um Club
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over here in Scotland as well that Tom Doake designed.
I I I found it to be great fun um
And then I don't know if you ever played done
Donald Links it's again these are more modern link style
courses or links inspired courses, but you've got the issue
with like these, you know, elevated greens, where it's like, well,
how exactly are you supposed trundle something up there? You
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know you've got like a hud yards and you're gonna
hit your you gonna hit a little bit of a
low draw six iron to chase it on up there.
And so you don't really get that opportunity with a
lot of these modern day links golf courses. But Dombarney
it fits the land beautifully. Um. Where in the is
it the fourth of five? The fourth, the Firth of fourth?
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The fourth of five? I have not I have been
playing a lot of golf and it is about ten
o'clock at night here, So I'm I'm I'm a wee
bit tired, if you will, um. But this the trip
over it's nice because let's see, going from the US
to France for the van, there was a series of
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delays with the travel because anytime you're flying from the
East coast uh to Europe, you're going to be flying
in a red eye and at the time of day
that you're tending to fly you're gonna encounter a lot
of thunderstorms over in the northeast. And so I dealt
with some ship there, got Annibe about eight hours late.
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And then the simple little hop, skip and jump from
Geneva to Belfast was a it was it was a
ship show. Um. And so the flight that I took
from Edinburgh to or excuse me, Belfast City to Edinburgh
was the easiest flight ever they were. It was like
thirty minutes of total airtime from take off to landing. Um.
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It was. It was nice. It was nice, um, but
it it's been great. And Sunday was Todd's birthday. He
turned nineteen and um for his birthday, because this was
his first time to Scotland, I took him over to
St Andrew's where we were I was. I brought him
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over to the Old Course and he did not believe
that they were going to have no golf on the
Old Course on a Sunday, Like it's just something that
you know, it just doesn't make sense, Like, well, Sunday
is like the weekend of it, surely people are gonna
be playing golf. It's like, no, there's there's no golf east.
You're just gonna sit there, You're gonna see so many dogs.
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And we drove around. We went to the San Andrew's
Castle and the cathedral which is currently closed. Um so
like I was like, I was like a dog try
to hop onto the table to try and get that
one piece of toast that's like near the edge of
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the table, Just trying to get a peek into the cemetery.
And and so we were not able to visit. Uh,
Tom Morris is great, young or old. I would say
that's more of a suggestion than a rule. I think
you should have just topped the fence outdoors. Come on,
the people are dead already. How offendive are they going
to be? Like I, I hold a lot of traditions
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in in and I hold a lot of reverence out
of respect for those people that are the ones that
are inhabiting that land by way of their bones and everything. Um,
they're not gonna jump a fence to pay your respects.
I mean, I don't know. I'm I have to say,
I'm kind of disappointing, Christina. It was in the middle
of the day, so if we were out late at night,
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who knows, we might have hopped the fence. We might
have gone over across the Swoken Bridge with a couple
of clubs in our hands and played the played into
Death Valley and the middle of the night and maybe
had people watching us. But that's where you and I differ.
Allen call back, all right, fair enough, Um, yeah it is.
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It's incredible that the old course is just a public
park on Sundays, but that's all it is. And it's
it's perfect that that double fairway one in eighteen. I mean,
I've seen people playing frisbee, there's picnickers, like you said,
there's lots of pooches. H It really to me distills
how golf's place in Scottish life. That you know, a
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lot of these great courses go right through the middle
of town, like I think about like you know, Cruton Bay,
You're just you're playing through the neighborhoods, those first few
holes and so many others and it's the central part
of life. At the same time, they don't take themselves
too seriously. I mean, it's it's not the be all
end all like, yeah, well we'll close on Sundays, people
can have picnic. Sure, this is like the most famous
course in the world, maybe the best, most iconic and
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the fact that they shut it down so folks can
just kind of hang out and have fun. I mean,
I've absolutely love everything about that. And um so, anyway,
it's neat that that Todd got to see in that regard.
Did you guys walk out a little further so we
can see some of the holes We did not because
we also had a tea time at Pan Mirror that.
Um I should have done a bit more research on
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in looking at because and that's the thing, like any
time I remember whenever, like when we played Carneustee years
ago for the Women's Open for the first time, you know,
people are like, oh, yeah, I just stayed in St. Andrew's,
Like it's not a big deal. You know, you can
rent an airbnb there and you'll be able to be
in St Andrew's this And I'm like, yeah, it says
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it's nine miles, but you have to cross the Table bridge.
You have to drive like ten miles east, ten miles west,
cross the bridge, and drive ten miles back east. So yeah,
as the crow flies, it's nine miles, it's an hour. Yeah,
you know, I've made that mistake a few times too.
It those roads are something else. So I mean they
they're barely wide enough for one and a half vehicles.
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And yeah, and it's sixty miles an hour. Yeah, that's
another thing that's just obscene. Where you sit there and
it's just like and you know, whether you're going uphill
or downhill, like there's they're just enough of these little
uh you know, little dips and little little hills that
you're just like, yeah, I'm I don't even feel going comfortable.
Don't even feel comfortable going sixty kilometers an hour a
little and sixty miles and they are just people that
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are like zipping by you, um, you know, passing you
over on the right side, and you're just like you're
welcome to just go, just go. One thing I do
enjoy about driving over there is because I'm sort of ambidexterous.
Like when I was in elementary school, i would write
with both hands and i'd get to like I'll start,
you know, on the left side, and i'd get to
basically the middle of my body, I'd switched to my
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right hand. And I did that for a while, and
finally my teacher we're like, your handwriting sucks. You have
to pick a hand, and just to be a contrariant
I went. I went as a lefty, but like I
throw a ball right hand in right, I kicked better
with my left foot. I shoot a basketball right hand
did but I actually like dribbling to my left, so
the whole body is confused. Um. But I love driving
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the stick shift and changing the sticks in my left hand.
It's totally comfortable, whereas most right ease like that's really
hard to do. So um, it's all It's kind of
one of the pleasures. I don't even drive stick at
home anymore. So when you get over there and your
and your vox all or whatever and you're shifted into
the left hand, like, it's just all part of the
fund and zaniness, I guess for sure. And that's part
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of like, you know, I look upon the entirety of
the season. And obviously this year we were not fortunate
enough to be able to play UM in Australia because
waving vaguely into the ether um. And so usually whenever
I come to play in Australia, I book a car
so that I can do the left side drive. And
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most of their cars really are still are are in automatic,
so you just get comfortable getting on that left side drive.
And then anytime I'm in the UK, you know, I'm
just like, you know, just give me, you know, a bumblebee,
a sewing machine, um, you know, a shoebox, what have you,
and give me stick and it's just so much fun.
Like last week we had a gosh, what was there's
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a Vauxhall course, I think, um, And then this week
we we have a Scoda uh Fabia. The names are classic,
names are incredible, very incredible, um, and so like this
week and it's crazy because it's like, this is one
of those stick shifts that has like a sixth gear,
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and um, it's kind of slow coming out of first,
and between it being slow coming out of first combined
with hill starts, it is a uh, it's safe to
call it a terrifying experience. But once you get to
third gear, you can go sixty miles an hour in
third gear and it's it's it's just it's nutty, like
there's more there there, there's more in the throttle with
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third gear than there is and first. And um, we
had Todd. Uh Todd drove for his birthday. He drove
us around and I was like, I'm like okay, because
we both were talking about like going sixty and third
and it's just such a smooth ride. It's not like
screening at us, like you're at seven pm. And I
was like just for ships and gate, like as long
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as it's safe, Like next time we're stopped, can you
just throw it into first and just FLOORA and see
what happens. And it was just like the it was
the slowest start, but we were a he did redline
it no, not gonna lie um, which was super fun.
But he got first gear, got up to thirty four.
It was It's just it's like the strangest vehicle. We're
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just having so much fun though, and being in these
tiny cars um, which I've come to find I can
actually pack a lot better now. Um you know, oh yeah,
I mean it is. It's not tetrious, it's not janga.
I don't I don't even know what you Lincoln logs basically,
and um that's always a frustration, is you book there.
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I've been down this a couple of times and I
know that the cars are small, so I will call
Hurts or whomever. It's like, give me like a van.
I want an actual van, like a van of the
sliding door, like a van and you get their infestation wagon.
You got four dudes and travel bags in suit cases,
walk into the office requested event sir, Well, this is
a van. No, this is a station wagon. It's not
a van, and it's not even that biggest station it's
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like a mid size and uh we um. Last time
I did a big trip through Scotland that that happened
to us. We wound up stashing our travel bags like
at an airport hotel. And even so, the whoever was
in the in the back seat, there was always suitcases
or golf clubs. It was just I mean, I don't know,
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I guess. You know, they don't have a they don't
have a robust gasoline and oil and gas industry like
in the US, and the prices are high for petrol
and so they want smaller cars and I guess getting
better mileage. But man, it is hard to find the
right size ride. But that's where the problem eyes. And
in having four people in a car, I'm like, two
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people is perfect. Two people. You can toss as much
crap as you want into the back of the sewing
machine and they just wind it up and go And
actually reminds me of a time when the when I
want in sicily uh. Duncan and I were there. We
were driving you know over like like into Mount mount
Etna basically, which is where the golf course um was constructed,
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like at the base of Mount Etna, and we were gosh,
it was um Stacy Keatings and and her now husband Darren.
They were in a smart car and they were like,
we had hills and so it was the two of them,
her golf bag, both of their suitcases because she's Australian,
he's English, so they you know, they were traveling. They
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were traveling, and so Duncan. I had a smaller car.
It was, you know, a little bit larger than like
a small Mini Cooper, and we had a decent engine though.
So we're like going up these hills and we drive
by them because they're in a literal smart car and
the thing is like struggling to go up the hill.
And we're going, like, you know, says an hour up
these hill and then we crested and then you have
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to go back down this hill. And you know, as
we're coming down towards you know, just past the midway
point of this hill, you see Stacy and Darren's card
just scream. It's like someone threw a marble down a mountain.
It's just terrifying to watch. And Darren had his legs
wrapped around the golf bag and I was just like,
I was like, I should have asked if I could
take some of your stuff because this is just obscene,
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that's funny. So this is an interesting thing. If for
folks haven't been lucky enough to travel over there, how
would you describe the difference between Scotland and Ireland, not
only the golf courses, but culturally and all that. I
have my own thoughts. I want to hear yours first. Well, um,
you know, when we landed here in Edinburgh, Todd actually
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asked me the same thing. So I would say, and
it's not in a bad way or and anything like that,
Like the Scottish are just I feel like they are
harder people, or maybe a heartier people, you know, a
heartier people, and they obviously rightfully so, are very proud
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people because they invented golf. And I would I don't know,
it's hard to say. I feel like Ireland from the
parts that I've been Ireland and Northern Ireland, the landscape
is a bit more Um, dramatic by way of saying
key Game of Thrones, E, you've got these really tall cliffs, um,
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you know, with the cold, cold sea just kind of
coming in at you. And and I feel like, Um,
in Scotland you get more beaches. I feel like the
land is is less dramatic. I feel like you get
more foothills as opposed to like mountaintops and cliffs that
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that that fall down several hundred feet and things like that. Um.
I again, it's not a dig I just feel like
for me and I feel like this is terrible of
me to say, and hopefully no one comes after me,
because I still absolutely love Scottish food. I feel like
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there's a bit more flavor in Irish food than there
is in Scottish food. I feel like they use salt
a bit more or they seethe in it at different times.
I prefer ulster fry over a full Scottish breakfast. Um.
You know, there's not much of a difference, but um.
And it could also just be from where I, you know,
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was consuming said food. Um. And you know, maybe next
episode I'll be like, dude, I was so wrong. I
just I must have gone to just you know, the
one the one place. You know, you've been there a
lot a bunch of truth. So this is pretty large
sample size. Let's let's be yes. I prefer Irish sausages,
the Lynk sausage in Ireland over Scotland. Scotland, I do
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prefer their square sausage. Um cold on. Can we talk
about the bacon over there? Like it's basically a piece
of ham, Like it's how how can I get with
even calling it bacon? There's nothing crispy about it. You
can't hold in your fingers. It flops around like that.
That is among the most offensive things is their version
of bacon. Alan I think you're American is showing because
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I have run into this problem a lot where you know,
if I'm if I'm with um uh say Americans and
we're in England and someone's like, oh my god, can't
people just speak English? And I'm like, we're the ones
with the accent. As it turns out, I'm pretty sure
that the UK came up with bacon before we did
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in America, but we perfected it behind it. Yeah, okay,
they may have been doing it longer, but we do
it better. Let's just let we do it differently. We
use different cuts. We use different kinds, Like there's this
I think ours is back bacon and there's his shoulder
bacon or something like that. A slice of ham something
slice of ham flops around on your plate. But yeah,
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I agree with everything you said for the most part.
It's interesting because a lot of you know, the Irish
links courses aren't tend to be on really dramatic terrain.
Like if you think about obviously, Ballely Bunyan, I mean,
La Hinz has got some great stuff. Hinge, I'm still
so mad. I haven't been there. Okay, well, Hints is incredible.
It's probably my favorite, but don't worry about it. Um.
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You know, the towering dunes at Royal Ports. Obviously we're
talking about the Irish Island, including Northern Ireland. But if
you think about, like, uh, the old course. You know,
that's like that great Sam Steed quote when the first
time you showed up there, he's like, oh, it looks
like there's an old golf course that used to be here.
He's like, no, Mr Sneed, that's the old course. You know.
It's just like this lunar landscape. It's very flat and
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as you get closer to the green it gets increasingly interesting.
But you know, it's a lot of the Scottish courses,
you know, I think about like Royal Troon, I'm you know,
Western Gale's going down the list. I mean, I'm pretty
flat pieces of earth. The interest is architectural and every
and the turf and everything else. But I feel like
the just the movement of the land on Irish courses
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is more dramatic. So um agreed entirely, which I find
funny because I find that the Irish people that I've
encountered in so far, um their courses are more dramatic
as people. They're more subtle, And it's the other way
around in Scotland, which trust me, like I it's it's again,
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it's hard to pick which you prefer. I love them both.
And one of the things I love about Scottish links
is the fact that there's so much subtlety and everything
is so understated. Is like sometimes you have to step
back and you know, you experience it a lot, especially
if you're using a poll cart or you know, they
call it a trolley here in the British aisles. Duncan
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always calls it, Oh you got your Mr Mr you
got Mr rolly with you and I'm like Mr Rowley.
He's like yeah, Thomas Rowley, t Rowley, And um, when
you're pulling along that little trolley, you really get a
sense of like the moguls and the fairways and things
like that, and it's you know, it's just I think
it's just beautifully understated and um, you have to really
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have your eyes and your mind open to truly create
these shots. You're not forced into anything. You just have
to be able to sort of expand your vision and
almost look upon um Scottish links as a you know,
a magic eye book where you have to actually you
know the it's there, it's just not you know, glaring
in your face. You know there's a bunker surrounded by
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rough because we're in America, and you know the only
way to make a course tougher is either make it
longer or make the fairways narrower, which is you know,
I know, and just yeah, and it's just I love
the subtlety of it. But the Scottish people they're they're
they're upfront, they're beautiful kind um, but there they are
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harder people. Yeah, well they're ballbusters for sure. The Irish
it's more with a wink that the Scotts love to
get in your business. And I mean, I of course
I love that because I I dish it out to you.
But remember that my first trip to Scotland. I can't
if I told the story in this podcast at this point,
but it never fails to make me laugh. Um with
a bunch of American dudes and one of them walks
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into the clubhouse and he's wearing his hat, and the
bartender like very sterily says, sir, over here, we remove
our hats in the clubhouse. So she persually the guy
takes off and he's totally bald, and the guy's like,
never mind, put it back on. It's so great, just
like knifed them twice. Oh that's brilliant. That was so funny.
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But it's yeah, as you say, I mean all this said,
I mean I could play golf and skoll the rest
of my life quite happily. So it's all good. And yeah,
and Ireland too, I'm either win, it's like it's it's
it's a win win. But so let's talk about the
women's Olympic competition was just ended basically last night, and
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by now everyone knows that that Nellie Corda has continued
her golden play, and of course there was a great
race for the silver and the bronze, and um, some
some couple people didn't make it onto the podium. Still
put a little charge into the whole thing. So uh,
I mean, we gotta start with Nelly because world number
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one wins the first major wins of gold medal, is
clearly now the dominant player in the sport and someone
that you know, famous family, the most graceful, naturally beautiful
golf swing you could ever conjure. She's obviously telegenic, like
just a perfect ambassador for for women's golf. Even though
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it's funny because I don't think she's the most charismatic personality.
She's so low key, and that's part of her charm too,
is he's like, doesn't seem too affected by any of this.
But um, you know, like where Jessica and her sister
is is obviously an extrovert and I think quite hilarious.
You know, Nellie, it's more she's more inward. But um, anyway,
we're happy to have her. She's gonna I think she's
gonna have a great run at the top, and the
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gold medals is a huge part of that. So tell
me about your your thoughts on how it all played out. Well. So,
I love the fact as well that as a number
one player, I mean obviously you know, we have you know,
NB Park, Loreino Ochoa, Um, you know, Lydia Ko Jin
Yungko we have. We've had so many amazing um women
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that were young and number one in the world. And
I feel like it's a little different with Nellie because
good or bad, right or wrong, like she can appeal
to a wider variety of people. Um, you know as
as number one, Like you said, she's very telegenic, she's
you know, damn near six foot tall, um you know,
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and and and like you said, she's she is very
introspect of and yet still shares you know, she is
um it's it's her golf swing is very similar to
how I view her in that she's filled with grace.
She is gentle yet strong. Um. So I think it's amazing.
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I I'm not gonna lie. I'm gonna have to have
you commentate for me, because how in the hell what
happened in the playoff? Because I was I was traveling
and I was on social media trying to figure out
what in the hell happened? All I knew was that, um,
you know, I'm a birdie seventeen boghe et eighteen. I
don't even know how she bogeied eighteen. And then they
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said there was going into a playoff and then it
was like congratulations Olidia Cohen winning bronze. I'm like, okay, my,
I mean, did she lose with a birdie? What happened?
I mean, Lydia made bogey and it was it was
kind of not a great end. It was a super
thrilling day. But um yeah. Last thing about Nellie is
I played with her um this year at the Kia
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Classic Pro am and for nine holes and that was
super fun. And she's a great little trash talker, you know,
which I think comes from being in a family of
athletes and hyper competitive and and having sister that she does.
And she was, you know and as you know, proms
canna be slow. So we had a few backups on
the tea. And she's having fun on social media and
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she's playing hip hop and she's just basically like a normal,
you know whatever, twenty three year old kid with obviously
a tremendous gift. And so I think she's really equipped
for a long run at the top. I mean she's
sort of been bred for this in some ways, right,
and she has this incredible support group and some of
the other players you mentioned, Like, you know, Lorena always
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was sort of uneasy in the spotlight. She was such
a sweet, down earth, kind of simple, traditional, you know,
daughter of Mexico. And I remember I remember following her
at a tournament in Mexico City and she walked the
first tea holding hands with her dad and he did
like the little sign of the cross on her forehead
before she teet off. I mean it was it was
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incredibly sweet. Um, but you know she was I don't
she didn't really care about the fame and the celebrity.
In fact, I think she didn't want any of it.
And unfortunately, if you're gonna be number one in the world,
that's just that's part of the deal. And you know, yeah,
he's saying like you can go down the list like
some It's not just on the women's side. I mean,
if you look at you know, Fred Couples was the
same way you got the number one. He hated it
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and he kind of retracted. Um, it's it's a huge
spotlight and it's a big burden and not every player
can deal with it, and but um, I think Nelly can,
and I think she's gonna keep going in her sort
of unaffected way. And I like what you said. Their
golf swing is a metaphor, like for a lot of people,
the way they swing the club tells you a lot
about them, and you just watching her swing it makes
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it gives me like this relaxed, pleasant feeling. I think
that's kind of that's kind of her vibe. But um, yeah,
I mean it was obviously you'd rather, you'd rather win
a gold or silver, but for Lydia to get her
second medal and this has kind of been a comeback
year for her, and she was quite emotional talking and
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dedicating the the bronze to her mom and and all
of that, it was it was, it was. It was
pretty sweet and for for a Japanese player to to
get on the podium as well as the host country,
I mean it was probably the best case scenario for
the sport, um and um. And then add the young
Indian golfer who put on a putting exhibition like it was,
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it was ridiculous. I mean, it's one of the greatest
pudding performances ever. Like I saw her strokes gained was
thirteen plus. You can't even can't even process that. And
uh and even though she didn't she didn't get a medal,
like it was riveting to watts. And I don't know
if you followed on social media, like the Prime Minister
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and all these dignitaries from India were all excited about it.
And you know that's for those There's obviously plenty of
naysayers about Olympic golf. But um, if she, you know,
can you imagine that the entire political establishment of India
would be would be that excited if she, you know,
she finished top five at the the you know, women's
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PGA Championship, it'd be a great accomplishment. But they probably
they don't even know really know what it means. Um,
but to almost win a medal, everyone knows what that means.
It's just a cultural universal and um, so that that
energy around the whole the whole thing was great. And um,
you know, I mean the big difference between the men's
and the women's embrace the Olympics is that the world
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number one showed up for the women and got it done.
And that was awesome. And it just continues with my
admiration for the way that all the female golfers the
world have embraced the Olympics and and recognized the the
magnitude of the opportunity. And so yeah, it was it
was great stuff and I was h this put to me,
put a whole exclamation point which has been an awesome
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summer for for women's golf really, oh no doubt, no doubt.
Yeah a d d put on a fucking clinic. And
the fact that she stumbled into the game by accident
in essence, you know, like just randomly was introduced to
the game, is is is something I think is so incredible.
And yeah, I mean I've played with her before and
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her putting stroke is just it's it is It's like
g it's like it is exactly. It is incredible. And
I love knowing that because she has an extreme amount
of talent. I'm glad to see that at I mean,
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to an extent, the world's truly largest stage. Um, obviously
it's a limited field, but at the largest stage by
way of how the overall sports fan would look upon it,
she was able to um really showcase some her talents
and and yes, like obviously, you know, it would have
been amazing for her and all of India, especially with
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everything going on with with you know, this delta variant
and everything to to come up with a medal in golf.
But god, I mean, Paris isn't that far away either,
you know. And and I'd love to see where her game, um,
how it transcends from this point on. Well, and so
I covered I'd never heard her name until the Rio Games,
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and um, and she had a nice showing there as well,
and I got to chit chat with her a little bit.
Totally delightful personality and it was interesting to see, you know,
she was just an awe of everything and everyone at
that point, but you could tell see there's a different
confidence in sense of belonging. And um, you know, I
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never asked for autographs. That was like so tacky. I
never asked players for anything because I don't want to
cross that line, even for people charity things. I get
hit up all the time, like I just I'm not
a fan. I don't want to act like a fan.
I'm not gonna ask anyone for any thing. I never have.
But in Rio, I love the hats so much because
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they were so colorful and like the huge emblems, and
so I asked when when the women's competition was over, um,
because I was. It kind of grew on me as
the Games gone by. I was like when the men's things,
I were like, yeah, I like the hats, but I
don't really I don't want to ask anyone. But by
the time the women's competitions were so into it. So
I got like a half dozen hats and one of
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them was adds India hat because it was cool. I
had the big flag and not nice nice and blue,
and so I have. I have a whole little stat
and I have one of Lydia's New Zealand hats, you know,
the the fern, and I wear that one a lot,
and it's funny because it gets a lot of attention
when if I want Carmel beats, like wearing that, uh,
people you think it is like all blacks or they
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know it's New Zealand, Like the hack gets more commentary.
But I have um. Maria Virchanova gave me one from this,
you know, the Soviet Union that was so cool. It
looks like it was recovered from the ashes of the Chernobyl.
I mean it's just like so retro and uh Santragal
gave me one from Germany. It's got like the big Eagle.
I mean, it's like totally intimidating. And a few others.
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I occasionally wear them because they're just fun. But by
far the all the New Zealand one gets the most recognition,
which I think is funny. And I was happy to
see Lydia rocking that again. I mean, it's just such
a great look in general, I mean just and I
enjoyed it in the men's competition to just think the
absence of clutter and corporate logos and like just just
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just to see like the American dudes and just the
simple USA was was cool and that that to me
is as part of the fun. Is the even that
the men's clothing was often kind of ugly, I thought,
I thought the women it was way different. They look
they look great, and I enjoyed all the they just
worn't better and I think maybe they had better selection
or whatever. But the flags, the hats, all of it
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to me is just part of the fun, no doubt,
no doubt. And we've only got what the three years
till the next one. Yeah, I feel like you know. First,
first it was Zeka, which every athlete in the world
showed up for the Games despite Zeca, except for male golfers.
So it's like it was a little sass, but whatever,
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we survived that, and then of course COVID and in
spite of everything we had, we had a great men's
and women's competition and I think the gold yeah, exactly.
I think that Paris will be a turning point because
who doesn't want to go to Paris? Like, even if
Dustin Johnson doesn't want to play, I'm sure Pauline is like,
We're going to Paris, and um, you know, I think
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you'll get some of the guys who've been on the fence,
and the word of mouth continues to build, you know,
with Rory and JT talking about what a transformational experience
it was that filters down, um and um. So I
think I think folks will turn out for Paris. We
know the best women will be there because they're always there.
If you can get the top guys, and then obviously
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everyone's gonna come strong for l A, Like why wouldn't
you go to the Games in l A compute any simpler.
So hopefully we have a couple of blockbusters in front
of us with all the best players and and golf
really kind of it becomes even more firmly in trench
because it's still it's still a little tenuous. I mean,
if you're if you're on the IOC and you're not
a fan of golfer, you can say, listen, man, we
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can't even get the number one player in the world
to show up, like um, like there's a case for
voting it out. But yeah, it's still on probation right now. Still. Yeah,
I was a member of the USA Golf and I
was part of the board, so you know, it's it's there.
It's not guaranteed to say by any means, by any means. Yeah,
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I think you know, Nelly winning the gold is big.
When the number one player in the world wins a goal,
it just turns up the volume. And if Paris turns
out to be a great show, I think I think
golf is pretty is on solid ground. But you know,
who knows what what airborne pathogen is coming our way
in through years, Like let's just it's unbelievable. But anyway,
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all right, that's enough Olympics, So what else is going on?
Let let's let's tee up the Women's Scottish Open. Like
how you're feeling about your game and seemed to like
the course a lot, But where are you personally right
now and in this this long your European adventure. Well,
I guess the best way for me to put it is,
I've been building up momentum. I um, you know, I've
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been working on just getting to a point where I
can compress the ball a little better. And you know,
I've been working on the swing where it's one of
those things where it's like, you know, I'm getting under plane.
I'm getting under plane. Hose talking with Todd and he's like, well,
it's like you just gotta stop pulling with your hands.
I'm like, sweetheart, I promise you you you want to
see pulling of the hands, I will show you what
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I did a few years ago. My hands are so
passive right now. And that's what I feel like, is
kind of you know, pulling me away where I want
to be in terms of being on plane and this
and that. And it was just like one of these
things where it was like like on the driving range
a couple of when we're in Northern Ireland, like it
was one of those things where it's like, it's not
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that I was pulling with my hands. I was dropping
my trail shoulder on the start of the downswing as
opposed to getting it high in the backswing and then
basically turning and rotating it in the downswing. It was
like it was going up and then it was coming down,
and it was so it was kind of crunching on
like the back of like say my qel um on
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the right hand side. And when you're you're doing that,
you know you're you're you're reducing the amount of space
your space you're getting you know, like not not ideal
spinal flection and rotation, and you all of a sudden, yeah,
your hands get Oh no, it's not painful. The only
thing that hurts is what the ball ends up doing,
and your ego suffers a blow, but physically it's not
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a big deal. Um. But then that's where I was
getting under plane. It was one of those things where
it was just like we gotta figure out where what
the causes. We know what the effect is, but we
need to know where the true original causes. And then
that's been helping me to be able to stay on
top of the ball a little bit more, which has
allowed me to compress the ball a little bit more.
And between the rounds over in Northern Ireland and and
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here before here in Scotland before teeing it up in
the tournament, like I've been able to start compressing the
ball a little bit more, which is great because you
need to have, um, you know, various trajectories, you need
to have various spin rates with the same clubs. You
need to be able to you know, play high, play
it low, use the ground, fly it in the air. UM.
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So I actually feel like I'm in a better place now.
I say this all the time. But you know, like
Todd and I we always talked about in all these
videos we watch on YouTube of you know, like old
Tiger when he was still working with Butch and talking
about how, you know, the number one player in the world,
he was the best ball striker in the world, felt
like it took him six months for a certain move
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to come into form, and this and that and you know,
how to I would always talk about trusting the process,
and so this is one of those things where it's like, Okay,
we're just building up to when we're going to have
a late season run, and there's no reason why the
late season run can't start in August. And yes, I'm
still working with my um armlock putter, with my wrist
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locked grip. I've now gotten to the point though, where
because it's like, again, so much of my golf is
feel based and and in in that sense of artistry,
and I feel like I've been sort of you know,
locked into this, you know, square stand, square knee, square hit,
square shoulder, square elbows, this that whatever. Like well, Jack
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Nicholas never did shit like that on Palmer didn't do
ship like that. Like I always potted well when I
was when I was a little bit open, not a
little bit, I was open with my feet and my shoulders,
and then I would basically push the putter down the line.
And I started doing that just because of the way
that you know, I'm left eye dominant, the way that
my eye sit. Um. You know, it's I I've I've
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been working with Dr Ryan concert On on you know,
our fixation duration, and it's about getting that quiet eye,
quiet mind and everything. And it's just like when I
see straight, it looks like I'm aiming left. So I
just sort of opened everything up again and it just
sort of just open stuff up, and it I've been
like actually truly hitting the lines I want to be
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hitting my puts on and and it's it's one of
those things where it's it's it's again feeling more artistic
as opposed to like meet more. I'm a robot and
so everything has to be square. And I'm like, I'm
very sure my left titties bigger than my right titty anyway,
So that's going to mess with all kinds of ship
as it is. So it's just it's one of those
because it's like I looked down and I'm like, well,
a lot of things are square, but it's my rib
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cage weird. And I'm like, I'm pretty sure it is
one of my titties is bigger. I did not see
that coming, but um, I mean it's it's an issue.
I mean, if you can find a way to speak
to women about things like this without sounding like Andrew Cuomo,
you will be well to find out that you're not
going to have a lot of symmetry. If you spend
time truly looking at someone's face, they're not There's a
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reason why models have so much symmetry is because that's
why they're models is because yeah, it is rare um
you know, like Tom Cruise, like he's got like three
front teeth or something like that or five or whatever
it is, or is his his teeth are you know,
kinked off to the side. You don't realize that he's
still looked upon. Is one of the most gorgeous men
in the world. But when you actually sit and look
at his teeth, you're like, first of all them teeth
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you had before a top gun like christ alive. And
then secondly after they did that, like this is what
they did. Like symmetry is is there's a time and
a place for it in a lot of ways. But
my golden ratio is very different. And now I feel
like I can stop swinging and I can fucking play,
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which is so exciting. That's huge. That's that's all you want.
And you said something a minute ago that it it is
like so key is when when you compress the ball
and you have a solid strike, the wind doesn't touch
the ball, like it'll just tear through the wind. And
when when the strike is just not quite as good,
that's when your ball gets tossed all around and well,
that's when it looks like the lawnmower came by and
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ate it up before you took a swipe at it. Yeah,
I mean it's it's so different. Like I've learned this
plane and band and a lot like you don't have
to overthink the wind. You just have to hit it
flush and then your ball is gonna go more or
less where you want to. Absolutely absolutely, as well as
looking at and and again, like a lot of the
rounds I played in UM on this trip have been
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with the prevailing wind, which has been great because you
get to see the way the course was meant to
be played by way of utilizing and using the land.
And you know, like, okay, the wind is you know,
more or less seven seven thirty winds, so that means
that the ball is going to be you know, falling
a little bit to the right. And oh yeah, if
you actually look, you know there is that you know,
like there's that camera in the fairway there that's going
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to cause the ball to to trickle off and you know,
or you can you know. And and another thing is
I'm doing a lot better I've never been. I'm not
a fighter. I'll argue, I'll debate, um, I'm not a fighter. Though,
And I don't like holding things up against the wind
like I like using the land. I like using the
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wind and and being non resistant and just being like
you can still snuggle it up close if you know
where to land it and how to play it. Um,
and just being back on fescue grass. I mean, there's nothing.
Fescue is my favorite strain of grass. It's the best.
It's tough though, if you have if you have a
wind coming hard out of the right and and you
play a draw and you ride the wind, that your
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ball comes in so hot. I mean, if you can't
cut it up into the wind, that's better. Club up.
I like two clubs and ship no. I know that
that's always when I struggle with you just got to
land on the front, let it run. But it is
it is so fun when you pull it off. Um,
well this, I'm excited that you're excited. I mean that's big.
I can't wait to watch this tournament. I'm very I'm
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keenly interested in dumb Barney like it is spectacular. It's
just there's new links courses being built, like you know
you tink King's Barns and um Castle Stewart. I mean
those are A plus plus courses and you know there
are ten years ago, but now you have Dumb Barney,
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you have St Patrick's Links that um the doke just
built up in northwestern Ireland and hogs Head's not really links,
but it looks like a pretty cool spot. I mean
you kind of it's like the New York Skyline. You
feel like every building is already been built and every
time I go there, there's a new skyscraper. And we're
kind of like that with links courses like wow, like
they're still coming online and how cool is that? And
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all the more reason to get over there and just
play some golf. So absolutely anyway, Well I can't wait
to watch, and um, as always, I'll be pulling hard
for U c K. So, um, why don't you get
some sleep and you can release our listeners. I would
love that. I will. I gotta, I gotta pull another
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another full send segment for this episode. And yes I
am going to harp on Bryson again, and I do
feel bad, but I mean, honey, you guys start yelling
for and you got to get to a point where
you stop being so defensive, like you can't you can't
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sit there and say that you do when there's footage
of you not or what's the most pathological, very very
faintly bark for right when it is less than a
second away from hitting the ground. Well I know, and
he's like, oh well my ball, my ball goes so
far they won't hear me. What happens is you got
(43:45):
big lungs, right. But also when when you yell for,
then other people will yell on the tea box and
the marshal and whatever and so and and down the
fair way as well. You hear it. You hear it
when when when people yell for travels, I mean, it's
sort of a viral thing to to use another Bryson issue,
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like when you yell for, other people yell for, and
it just it gets spread from person to person, much
like the coronavirus. And that's a whole other kettle of
fish with Bryson kind of yelling for because he wants
to leave that for people that actually fucking need it. Mike,
it's just so, Mike job. That's it. There's anything else. No,
you're done. That's it. That's a perfect ender. Well, thank
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thank you, and I'm sorry because my brain was so
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four thirty your time, and by your time, I meant
my normal time, which is the East coast of the US.
So we're actually filming. Uh, it's about two forty five
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All right, and welcome to another episode of Full Send
with Christina Kim and Alan SCHIPNUK You're great. UK Links
Land tour continues. So where exactly are you right now?
C K I am in the let's see, I'm on
the east coast of Scotland right now. We are getting
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ready and prepared for the Trust Golf Women's Scottish Open
held at dun Barney Links Golf Club, which I played
for the very first time on Saturday. And I have
you played it? I gotta tell you I have never
I I really you would never have guessed that this
golf course was built a year ago it opened in Yeah,
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I've seen the photos. It looks pure. I haven't been
over to that part of the world since the pandemia.
I'm I'm dying to get there. It looks, it looks
tell me about it. Yeah, it's it's a beautiful. It's it.
You know there there are new courses out there, like
I'm a big fan of the Renains Renaissance Um Club
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over here in Scotland as well that Tom Doake designed.
I I I found it to be great fun um
And then I don't know if you ever played done
Donald Links it's again these are more modern link style
courses or links inspired courses, but you've got the issue
with like these, you know, elevated greens, where it's like, well,
how exactly are you supposed trundle something up there? You
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know you've got like a hud yards and you're gonna
hit your you gonna hit a little bit of a
low draw six iron to chase it on up there.
And so you don't really get that opportunity with a
lot of these modern day links golf courses. But Dombarney
it fits the land beautifully. Um. Where in the is
it the fourth of five? The fourth, the Firth of fourth?
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The fourth of five? I have not I have been
playing a lot of golf and it is about ten
o'clock at night here, So I'm I'm I'm a wee
bit tired, if you will, um. But this the trip
over it's nice because let's see, going from the US
to France for the van, there was a series of
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delays with the travel because anytime you're flying from the
East coast uh to Europe, you're going to be flying
in a red eye and at the time of day
that you're tending to fly you're gonna encounter a lot
of thunderstorms over in the northeast. And so I dealt
with some ship there, got Annibe about eight hours late.
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And then the simple little hop, skip and jump from
Geneva to Belfast was a it was it was a
ship show. Um. And so the flight that I took
from Edinburgh to or excuse me, Belfast City to Edinburgh
was the easiest flight ever they were. It was like
thirty minutes of total airtime from take off to landing. Um.
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It was. It was nice. It was nice, um, but
it it's been great. And Sunday was Todd's birthday. He
turned nineteen and um for his birthday, because this was
his first time to Scotland, I took him over to
St Andrew's where we were I was. I brought him
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over to the Old Course and he did not believe
that they were going to have no golf on the
Old Course on a Sunday, Like it's just something that
you know, it just doesn't make sense, Like, well, Sunday
is like the weekend of it, surely people are gonna
be playing golf. It's like, no, there's there's no golf east.
You're just gonna sit there, You're gonna see so many dogs.
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And we drove around. We went to the San Andrew's
Castle and the cathedral which is currently closed. Um so
like I was like, I was like a dog try
to hop onto the table to try and get that
one piece of toast that's like near the edge of
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the table, Just trying to get a peek into the cemetery.
And and so we were not able to visit. Uh,
Tom Morris is great, young or old. I would say
that's more of a suggestion than a rule. I think
you should have just topped the fence outdoors. Come on,
the people are dead already. How offendive are they going
to be? Like I, I hold a lot of traditions
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in in and I hold a lot of reverence out
of respect for those people that are the ones that
are inhabiting that land by way of their bones and everything. Um,
they're not gonna jump a fence to pay your respects.
I mean, I don't know. I'm I have to say,
I'm kind of disappointing, Christina. It was in the middle
of the day, so if we were out late at night,
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who knows, we might have hopped the fence. We might
have gone over across the Swoken Bridge with a couple
of clubs in our hands and played the played into
Death Valley and the middle of the night and maybe
had people watching us. But that's where you and I differ.
Allen call back, all right, fair enough, Um, yeah it is.
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It's incredible that the old course is just a public
park on Sundays, but that's all it is. And it's
it's perfect that that double fairway one in eighteen. I mean,
I've seen people playing frisbee, there's picnickers, like you said,
there's lots of pooches. H It really to me distills
how golf's place in Scottish life. That you know, a
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lot of these great courses go right through the middle
of town, like I think about like you know, Cruton Bay,
You're just you're playing through the neighborhoods, those first few
holes and so many others and it's the central part
of life. At the same time, they don't take themselves
too seriously. I mean, it's it's not the be all
end all like, yeah, well we'll close on Sundays, people
can have picnic. Sure, this is like the most famous
course in the world, maybe the best, most iconic and
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the fact that they shut it down so folks can
just kind of hang out and have fun. I mean,
I've absolutely love everything about that. And um so, anyway,
it's neat that that Todd got to see in that regard.
Did you guys walk out a little further so we
can see some of the holes We did not because
we also had a tea time at Pan Mirror that.
Um I should have done a bit more research on
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in looking at because and that's the thing, like any
time I remember whenever, like when we played Carneustee years
ago for the Women's Open for the first time, you know,
people are like, oh, yeah, I just stayed in St. Andrew's,
Like it's not a big deal. You know, you can
rent an airbnb there and you'll be able to be
in St Andrew's this And I'm like, yeah, it says
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it's nine miles, but you have to cross the Table bridge.
You have to drive like ten miles east, ten miles west,
cross the bridge, and drive ten miles back east. So yeah,
as the crow flies, it's nine miles, it's an hour. Yeah,
you know, I've made that mistake a few times too.
It those roads are something else. So I mean they
they're barely wide enough for one and a half vehicles.
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And yeah, and it's sixty miles an hour. Yeah, that's
another thing that's just obscene. Where you sit there and
it's just like and you know, whether you're going uphill
or downhill, like there's they're just enough of these little
uh you know, little dips and little little hills that
you're just like, yeah, I'm I don't even feel going comfortable.
Don't even feel comfortable going sixty kilometers an hour a
little and sixty miles and they are just people that
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are like zipping by you, um, you know, passing you
over on the right side, and you're just like you're
welcome to just go, just go. One thing I do
enjoy about driving over there is because I'm sort of ambidexterous.
Like when I was in elementary school, i would write
with both hands and i'd get to like I'll start,
you know, on the left side, and i'd get to
basically the middle of my body, I'd switched to my
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right hand. And I did that for a while, and
finally my teacher we're like, your handwriting sucks. You have
to pick a hand, and just to be a contrariant
I went. I went as a lefty, but like I
throw a ball right hand in right, I kicked better
with my left foot. I shoot a basketball right hand
did but I actually like dribbling to my left, so
the whole body is confused. Um. But I love driving
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the stick shift and changing the sticks in my left hand.
It's totally comfortable, whereas most right ease like that's really
hard to do. So um, it's all It's kind of
one of the pleasures. I don't even drive stick at
home anymore. So when you get over there and your
and your vox all or whatever and you're shifted into
the left hand, like, it's just all part of the
fund and zaniness, I guess for sure. And that's part
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of like, you know, I look upon the entirety of
the season. And obviously this year we were not fortunate
enough to be able to play UM in Australia because
waving vaguely into the ether um. And so usually whenever
I come to play in Australia, I book a car
so that I can do the left side drive. And
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most of their cars really are still are are in automatic,
so you just get comfortable getting on that left side drive.
And then anytime I'm in the UK, you know, I'm
just like, you know, just give me, you know, a bumblebee,
a sewing machine, um, you know, a shoebox, what have you,
and give me stick and it's just so much fun.
Like last week we had a gosh, what was there's
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a Vauxhall course, I think, um, And then this week
we we have a Scoda uh Fabia. The names are classic,
names are incredible, very incredible, um, and so like this
week and it's crazy because it's like, this is one
of those stick shifts that has like a sixth gear,
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and um, it's kind of slow coming out of first,
and between it being slow coming out of first combined
with hill starts, it is a uh, it's safe to
call it a terrifying experience. But once you get to
third gear, you can go sixty miles an hour in
third gear and it's it's it's just it's nutty, like
there's more there there, there's more in the throttle with
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third gear than there is and first. And um, we
had Todd. Uh Todd drove for his birthday. He drove
us around and I was like, I'm like okay, because
we both were talking about like going sixty and third
and it's just such a smooth ride. It's not like
screening at us, like you're at seven pm. And I
was like just for ships and gate, like as long
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as it's safe, Like next time we're stopped, can you
just throw it into first and just FLOORA and see
what happens. And it was just like the it was
the slowest start, but we were a he did redline
it no, not gonna lie um, which was super fun.
But he got first gear, got up to thirty four.
It was It's just it's like the strangest vehicle. We're
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just having so much fun though, and being in these
tiny cars um, which I've come to find I can
actually pack a lot better now. Um you know, oh yeah,
I mean it is. It's not tetrious, it's not janga.
I don't I don't even know what you Lincoln logs basically,
and um that's always a frustration, is you book there.
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I've been down this a couple of times and I
know that the cars are small, so I will call
Hurts or whomever. It's like, give me like a van.
I want an actual van, like a van of the
sliding door, like a van and you get their infestation wagon.
You got four dudes and travel bags in suit cases,
walk into the office requested event sir, Well, this is
a van. No, this is a station wagon. It's not
a van, and it's not even that biggest station it's
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like a mid size and uh we um. Last time
I did a big trip through Scotland that that happened
to us. We wound up stashing our travel bags like
at an airport hotel. And even so, the whoever was
in the in the back seat, there was always suitcases
or golf clubs. It was just I mean, I don't know,
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I guess. You know, they don't have a they don't
have a robust gasoline and oil and gas industry like
in the US, and the prices are high for petrol
and so they want smaller cars and I guess getting
better mileage. But man, it is hard to find the
right size ride. But that's where the problem eyes. And
in having four people in a car, I'm like, two
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people is perfect. Two people. You can toss as much
crap as you want into the back of the sewing
machine and they just wind it up and go And
actually reminds me of a time when the when I
want in sicily uh. Duncan and I were there. We
were driving you know over like like into Mount mount
Etna basically, which is where the golf course um was constructed,
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like at the base of Mount Etna, and we were gosh,
it was um Stacy Keatings and and her now husband Darren.
They were in a smart car and they were like,
we had hills and so it was the two of them,
her golf bag, both of their suitcases because she's Australian,
he's English, so they you know, they were traveling. They
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were traveling, and so Duncan. I had a smaller car.
It was, you know, a little bit larger than like
a small Mini Cooper, and we had a decent engine though.
So we're like going up these hills and we drive
by them because they're in a literal smart car and
the thing is like struggling to go up the hill.
And we're going, like, you know, says an hour up
these hill and then we crested and then you have
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to go back down this hill. And you know, as
we're coming down towards you know, just past the midway
point of this hill, you see Stacy and Darren's card
just scream. It's like someone threw a marble down a mountain.
It's just terrifying to watch. And Darren had his legs
wrapped around the golf bag and I was just like,
I was like, I should have asked if I could
take some of your stuff because this is just obscene,
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that's funny. So this is an interesting thing. If for
folks haven't been lucky enough to travel over there, how
would you describe the difference between Scotland and Ireland, not
only the golf courses, but culturally and all that. I
have my own thoughts. I want to hear yours first. Well, um,
you know, when we landed here in Edinburgh, Todd actually
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asked me the same thing. So I would say, and
it's not in a bad way or and anything like that,
Like the Scottish are just I feel like they are
harder people, or maybe a heartier people, you know, a
heartier people, and they obviously rightfully so, are very proud
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people because they invented golf. And I would I don't know,
it's hard to say. I feel like Ireland from the
parts that I've been Ireland and Northern Ireland, the landscape
is a bit more Um, dramatic by way of saying
key Game of Thrones, E, you've got these really tall cliffs, um,
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you know, with the cold, cold sea just kind of
coming in at you. And and I feel like, Um,
in Scotland you get more beaches. I feel like the
land is is less dramatic. I feel like you get
more foothills as opposed to like mountaintops and cliffs that
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that that fall down several hundred feet and things like that. Um.
I again, it's not a dig I just feel like
for me and I feel like this is terrible of
me to say, and hopefully no one comes after me,
because I still absolutely love Scottish food. I feel like
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there's a bit more flavor in Irish food than there
is in Scottish food. I feel like they use salt
a bit more or they seethe in it at different times.
I prefer ulster fry over a full Scottish breakfast. Um.
You know, there's not much of a difference, but um.
And it could also just be from where I, you know,
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was consuming said food. Um. And you know, maybe next
episode I'll be like, dude, I was so wrong. I
just I must have gone to just you know, the
one the one place. You know, you've been there a
lot a bunch of truth. So this is pretty large
sample size. Let's let's be yes. I prefer Irish sausages,
the Lynk sausage in Ireland over Scotland. Scotland, I do
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prefer their square sausage. Um cold on. Can we talk
about the bacon over there? Like it's basically a piece
of ham, Like it's how how can I get with
even calling it bacon? There's nothing crispy about it. You
can't hold in your fingers. It flops around like that.
That is among the most offensive things is their version
of bacon. Alan I think you're American is showing because
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I have run into this problem a lot where you know,
if I'm if I'm with um uh say Americans and
we're in England and someone's like, oh my god, can't
people just speak English? And I'm like, we're the ones
with the accent. As it turns out, I'm pretty sure
that the UK came up with bacon before we did
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in America, but we perfected it behind it. Yeah, okay,
they may have been doing it longer, but we do
it better. Let's just let we do it differently. We
use different cuts. We use different kinds, Like there's this
I think ours is back bacon and there's his shoulder
bacon or something like that. A slice of ham something
slice of ham flops around on your plate. But yeah,
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I agree with everything you said for the most part.
It's interesting because a lot of you know, the Irish
links courses aren't tend to be on really dramatic terrain.
Like if you think about obviously, Ballely Bunyan, I mean,
La Hinz has got some great stuff. Hinge, I'm still
so mad. I haven't been there. Okay, well, Hints is incredible.
It's probably my favorite, but don't worry about it. Um.
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You know, the towering dunes at Royal Ports. Obviously we're
talking about the Irish Island, including Northern Ireland. But if
you think about, like, uh, the old course. You know,
that's like that great Sam Steed quote when the first
time you showed up there, he's like, oh, it looks
like there's an old golf course that used to be here.
He's like, no, Mr Sneed, that's the old course. You know.
It's just like this lunar landscape. It's very flat and
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as you get closer to the green it gets increasingly interesting.
But you know, it's a lot of the Scottish courses,
you know, I think about like Royal Troon, I'm you know,
Western Gale's going down the list. I mean, I'm pretty
flat pieces of earth. The interest is architectural and every
and the turf and everything else. But I feel like
the just the movement of the land on Irish courses
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is more dramatic. So um agreed entirely, which I find
funny because I find that the Irish people that I've
encountered in so far, um their courses are more dramatic
as people. They're more subtle, And it's the other way
around in Scotland, which trust me, like I it's it's again,
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it's hard to pick which you prefer. I love them both.
And one of the things I love about Scottish links
is the fact that there's so much subtlety and everything
is so understated. Is like sometimes you have to step
back and you know, you experience it a lot, especially
if you're using a poll cart or you know, they
call it a trolley here in the British aisles. Duncan
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always calls it, Oh you got your Mr Mr you
got Mr rolly with you and I'm like Mr Rowley.
He's like yeah, Thomas Rowley, t Rowley, And um, when
you're pulling along that little trolley, you really get a
sense of like the moguls and the fairways and things
like that, and it's you know, it's just I think
it's just beautifully understated and um, you have to really
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have your eyes and your mind open to truly create
these shots. You're not forced into anything. You just have
to be able to sort of expand your vision and
almost look upon um Scottish links as a you know,
a magic eye book where you have to actually you
know the it's there, it's just not you know, glaring
in your face. You know there's a bunker surrounded by
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rough because we're in America, and you know the only
way to make a course tougher is either make it
longer or make the fairways narrower, which is you know,
I know, and just yeah, and it's just I love
the subtlety of it. But the Scottish people they're they're
they're upfront, they're beautiful kind um, but there they are
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harder people. Yeah, well they're ballbusters for sure. The Irish
it's more with a wink that the Scotts love to
get in your business. And I mean, I of course
I love that because I I dish it out to you.
But remember that my first trip to Scotland. I can't
if I told the story in this podcast at this point,
but it never fails to make me laugh. Um with
a bunch of American dudes and one of them walks
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into the clubhouse and he's wearing his hat, and the
bartender like very sterily says, sir, over here, we remove
our hats in the clubhouse. So she persually the guy
takes off and he's totally bald, and the guy's like,
never mind, put it back on. It's so great, just
like knifed them twice. Oh that's brilliant. That was so funny.
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But it's yeah, as you say, I mean all this said,
I mean I could play golf and skoll the rest
of my life quite happily. So it's all good. And yeah,
and Ireland too, I'm either win, it's like it's it's
it's a win win. But so let's talk about the
women's Olympic competition was just ended basically last night, and
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by now everyone knows that that Nellie Corda has continued
her golden play, and of course there was a great
race for the silver and the bronze, and um, some
some couple people didn't make it onto the podium. Still
put a little charge into the whole thing. So uh,
I mean, we gotta start with Nelly because world number
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one wins the first major wins of gold medal, is
clearly now the dominant player in the sport and someone
that you know, famous family, the most graceful, naturally beautiful
golf swing you could ever conjure. She's obviously telegenic, like
just a perfect ambassador for for women's golf. Even though
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it's funny because I don't think she's the most charismatic personality.
She's so low key, and that's part of her charm too,
is he's like, doesn't seem too affected by any of this.
But um, you know, like where Jessica and her sister
is is obviously an extrovert and I think quite hilarious.
You know, Nellie, it's more she's more inward. But um, anyway,
we're happy to have her. She's gonna I think she's
gonna have a great run at the top, and the
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gold medals is a huge part of that. So tell
me about your your thoughts on how it all played out. Well. So,
I love the fact as well that as a number
one player, I mean obviously you know, we have you know,
NB Park, Loreino Ochoa, Um, you know, Lydia Ko Jin
Yungko we have. We've had so many amazing um women
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that were young and number one in the world. And
I feel like it's a little different with Nellie because
good or bad, right or wrong, like she can appeal
to a wider variety of people. Um, you know as
as number one, Like you said, she's very telegenic, she's
you know, damn near six foot tall, um you know,
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and and and like you said, she's she is very
introspect of and yet still shares you know, she is
um it's it's her golf swing is very similar to
how I view her in that she's filled with grace.
She is gentle yet strong. Um. So I think it's amazing.
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I I'm not gonna lie. I'm gonna have to have
you commentate for me, because how in the hell what
happened in the playoff? Because I was I was traveling
and I was on social media trying to figure out
what in the hell happened? All I knew was that, um,
you know, I'm a birdie seventeen boghe et eighteen. I
don't even know how she bogeied eighteen. And then they
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said there was going into a playoff and then it
was like congratulations Olidia Cohen winning bronze. I'm like, okay, my,
I mean, did she lose with a birdie? What happened?
I mean, Lydia made bogey and it was it was
kind of not a great end. It was a super
thrilling day. But um yeah. Last thing about Nellie is
I played with her um this year at the Kia
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Classic Pro am and for nine holes and that was
super fun. And she's a great little trash talker, you know,
which I think comes from being in a family of
athletes and hyper competitive and and having sister that she does.
And she was, you know and as you know, proms
canna be slow. So we had a few backups on
the tea. And she's having fun on social media and
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she's playing hip hop and she's just basically like a normal,
you know whatever, twenty three year old kid with obviously
a tremendous gift. And so I think she's really equipped
for a long run at the top. I mean she's
sort of been bred for this in some ways, right,
and she has this incredible support group and some of
the other players you mentioned, Like, you know, Lorena always
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was sort of uneasy in the spotlight. She was such
a sweet, down earth, kind of simple, traditional, you know,
daughter of Mexico. And I remember I remember following her
at a tournament in Mexico City and she walked the
first tea holding hands with her dad and he did
like the little sign of the cross on her forehead
before she teet off. I mean it was it was
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incredibly sweet. Um, but you know she was I don't
she didn't really care about the fame and the celebrity.
In fact, I think she didn't want any of it.
And unfortunately, if you're gonna be number one in the world,
that's just that's part of the deal. And you know, yeah,
he's saying like you can go down the list like
some It's not just on the women's side. I mean,
if you look at you know, Fred Couples was the
same way you got the number one. He hated it
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and he kind of retracted. Um, it's it's a huge
spotlight and it's a big burden and not every player
can deal with it, and but um, I think Nelly can,
and I think she's gonna keep going in her sort
of unaffected way. And I like what you said. Their
golf swing is a metaphor, like for a lot of people,
the way they swing the club tells you a lot
about them, and you just watching her swing it makes
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it gives me like this relaxed, pleasant feeling. I think
that's kind of that's kind of her vibe. But um, yeah,
I mean it was obviously you'd rather, you'd rather win
a gold or silver, but for Lydia to get her
second medal and this has kind of been a comeback
year for her, and she was quite emotional talking and
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dedicating the the bronze to her mom and and all
of that, it was it was, it was. It was
pretty sweet and for for a Japanese player to to
get on the podium as well as the host country,
I mean it was probably the best case scenario for
the sport, um and um. And then add the young
Indian golfer who put on a putting exhibition like it was,
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it was ridiculous. I mean, it's one of the greatest
pudding performances ever. Like I saw her strokes gained was
thirteen plus. You can't even can't even process that. And
uh and even though she didn't she didn't get a medal,
like it was riveting to watts. And I don't know
if you followed on social media, like the Prime Minister
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and all these dignitaries from India were all excited about it.
And you know that's for those There's obviously plenty of
naysayers about Olympic golf. But um, if she, you know,
can you imagine that the entire political establishment of India
would be would be that excited if she, you know,
she finished top five at the the you know, women's
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PGA Championship, it'd be a great accomplishment. But they probably
they don't even know really know what it means. Um,
but to almost win a medal, everyone knows what that means.
It's just a cultural universal and um, so that that
energy around the whole the whole thing was great. And um,
you know, I mean the big difference between the men's
and the women's embrace the Olympics is that the world
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number one showed up for the women and got it done.
And that was awesome. And it just continues with my
admiration for the way that all the female golfers the
world have embraced the Olympics and and recognized the the
magnitude of the opportunity. And so yeah, it was it
was great stuff and I was h this put to me,
put a whole exclamation point which has been an awesome
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summer for for women's golf really, oh no doubt, no doubt.
Yeah a d d put on a fucking clinic. And
the fact that she stumbled into the game by accident
in essence, you know, like just randomly was introduced to
the game, is is is something I think is so incredible.
And yeah, I mean I've played with her before and
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her putting stroke is just it's it is It's like
g it's like it is exactly. It is incredible. And
I love knowing that because she has an extreme amount
of talent. I'm glad to see that at I mean,
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to an extent, the world's truly largest stage. Um, obviously
it's a limited field, but at the largest stage by
way of how the overall sports fan would look upon it,
she was able to um really showcase some her talents
and and yes, like obviously, you know, it would have
been amazing for her and all of India, especially with
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everything going on with with you know, this delta variant
and everything to to come up with a medal in golf.
But god, I mean, Paris isn't that far away either,
you know. And and I'd love to see where her game, um,
how it transcends from this point on. Well, and so
I covered I'd never heard her name until the Rio Games,
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and um, and she had a nice showing there as well,
and I got to chit chat with her a little bit.
Totally delightful personality and it was interesting to see, you know,
she was just an awe of everything and everyone at
that point, but you could tell see there's a different
confidence in sense of belonging. And um, you know, I
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never asked for autographs. That was like so tacky. I
never asked players for anything because I don't want to
cross that line, even for people charity things. I get
hit up all the time, like I just I'm not
a fan. I don't want to act like a fan.
I'm not gonna ask anyone for any thing. I never have.
But in Rio, I love the hats so much because
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they were so colorful and like the huge emblems, and
so I asked when when the women's competition was over, um,
because I was. It kind of grew on me as
the Games gone by. I was like when the men's things,
I were like, yeah, I like the hats, but I
don't really I don't want to ask anyone. But by
the time the women's competitions were so into it. So
I got like a half dozen hats and one of
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them was adds India hat because it was cool. I
had the big flag and not nice nice and blue,
and so I have. I have a whole little stat
and I have one of Lydia's New Zealand hats, you know,
the the fern, and I wear that one a lot,
and it's funny because it gets a lot of attention
when if I want Carmel beats, like wearing that, uh,
people you think it is like all blacks or they
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know it's New Zealand, Like the hack gets more commentary.
But I have um. Maria Virchanova gave me one from this,
you know, the Soviet Union that was so cool. It
looks like it was recovered from the ashes of the Chernobyl.
I mean it's just like so retro and uh Santragal
gave me one from Germany. It's got like the big Eagle.
I mean, it's like totally intimidating. And a few others.
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I occasionally wear them because they're just fun. But by
far the all the New Zealand one gets the most recognition,
which I think is funny. And I was happy to
see Lydia rocking that again. I mean, it's just such
a great look in general, I mean just and I
enjoyed it in the men's competition to just think the
absence of clutter and corporate logos and like just just
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just to see like the American dudes and just the
simple USA was was cool and that that to me
is as part of the fun. Is the even that
the men's clothing was often kind of ugly, I thought,
I thought the women it was way different. They look
they look great, and I enjoyed all the they just
worn't better and I think maybe they had better selection
or whatever. But the flags, the hats, all of it
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to me is just part of the fun, no doubt,
no doubt. And we've only got what the three years
till the next one. Yeah, I feel like you know. First,
first it was Zeka, which every athlete in the world
showed up for the Games despite Zeca, except for male golfers.
So it's like it was a little sass, but whatever,
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we survived that, and then of course COVID and in
spite of everything we had, we had a great men's
and women's competition and I think the gold yeah, exactly.
I think that Paris will be a turning point because
who doesn't want to go to Paris? Like, even if
Dustin Johnson doesn't want to play, I'm sure Pauline is like,
We're going to Paris, and um, you know, I think
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you'll get some of the guys who've been on the fence,
and the word of mouth continues to build, you know,
with Rory and JT talking about what a transformational experience
it was that filters down, um and um. So I
think I think folks will turn out for Paris. We
know the best women will be there because they're always there.
If you can get the top guys, and then obviously
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everyone's gonna come strong for l A, Like why wouldn't
you go to the Games in l A compute any simpler.
So hopefully we have a couple of blockbusters in front
of us with all the best players and and golf
really kind of it becomes even more firmly in trench
because it's still it's still a little tenuous. I mean,
if you're if you're on the IOC and you're not
a fan of golfer, you can say, listen, man, we
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can't even get the number one player in the world
to show up, like um, like there's a case for
voting it out. But yeah, it's still on probation right now. Still. Yeah,
I was a member of the USA Golf and I
was part of the board, so you know, it's it's there.
It's not guaranteed to say by any means, by any means. Yeah,
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I think you know, Nelly winning the gold is big.
When the number one player in the world wins a goal,
it just turns up the volume. And if Paris turns
out to be a great show, I think I think
golf is pretty is on solid ground. But you know,
who knows what what airborne pathogen is coming our way
in through years, Like let's just it's unbelievable. But anyway,
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all right, that's enough Olympics, So what else is going on?
Let let's let's tee up the Women's Scottish Open. Like
how you're feeling about your game and seemed to like
the course a lot, But where are you personally right
now and in this this long your European adventure. Well,
I guess the best way for me to put it is,
I've been building up momentum. I um, you know, I've
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been working on just getting to a point where I
can compress the ball a little better. And you know,
I've been working on the swing where it's one of
those things where it's like, you know, I'm getting under plane.
I'm getting under plane. Hose talking with Todd and he's like, well,
it's like you just gotta stop pulling with your hands.
I'm like, sweetheart, I promise you you you want to
see pulling of the hands, I will show you what
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I did a few years ago. My hands are so
passive right now. And that's what I feel like, is
kind of you know, pulling me away where I want
to be in terms of being on plane and this
and that. And it was just like one of these
things where it was like like on the driving range
a couple of when we're in Northern Ireland, like it
was one of those things where it's like, it's not
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that I was pulling with my hands. I was dropping
my trail shoulder on the start of the downswing as
opposed to getting it high in the backswing and then
basically turning and rotating it in the downswing. It was
like it was going up and then it was coming down,
and it was so it was kind of crunching on
like the back of like say my qel um on
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the right hand side. And when you're you're doing that,
you know you're you're you're reducing the amount of space
your space you're getting you know, like not not ideal
spinal flection and rotation, and you all of a sudden, yeah,
your hands get Oh no, it's not painful. The only
thing that hurts is what the ball ends up doing,
and your ego suffers a blow, but physically it's not
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a big deal. Um. But then that's where I was
getting under plane. It was one of those things where
it was just like we gotta figure out where what
the causes. We know what the effect is, but we
need to know where the true original causes. And then
that's been helping me to be able to stay on
top of the ball a little bit more, which has
allowed me to compress the ball a little bit more.
And between the rounds over in Northern Ireland and and
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here before here in Scotland before teeing it up in
the tournament, like I've been able to start compressing the
ball a little bit more, which is great because you
need to have, um, you know, various trajectories, you need
to have various spin rates with the same clubs. You
need to be able to you know, play high, play
it low, use the ground, fly it in the air. UM.
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So I actually feel like I'm in a better place now.
I say this all the time. But you know, like
Todd and I we always talked about in all these
videos we watch on YouTube of you know, like old
Tiger when he was still working with Butch and talking
about how, you know, the number one player in the world,
he was the best ball striker in the world, felt
like it took him six months for a certain move
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to come into form, and this and that and you know,
how to I would always talk about trusting the process,
and so this is one of those things where it's like, Okay,
we're just building up to when we're going to have
a late season run, and there's no reason why the
late season run can't start in August. And yes, I'm
still working with my um armlock putter, with my wrist
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locked grip. I've now gotten to the point though, where
because it's like, again, so much of my golf is
feel based and and in in that sense of artistry,
and I feel like I've been sort of you know,
locked into this, you know, square stand, square knee, square hit,
square shoulder, square elbows, this that whatever. Like well, Jack
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Nicholas never did shit like that on Palmer didn't do
ship like that. Like I always potted well when I
was when I was a little bit open, not a
little bit, I was open with my feet and my shoulders,
and then I would basically push the putter down the line.
And I started doing that just because of the way
that you know, I'm left eye dominant, the way that
my eye sit. Um. You know, it's I I've I've
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been working with Dr Ryan concert On on you know,
our fixation duration, and it's about getting that quiet eye,
quiet mind and everything. And it's just like when I
see straight, it looks like I'm aiming left. So I
just sort of opened everything up again and it just
sort of just open stuff up, and it I've been
like actually truly hitting the lines I want to be
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hitting my puts on and and it's it's one of
those things where it's it's it's again feeling more artistic
as opposed to like meet more. I'm a robot and
so everything has to be square. And I'm like, I'm
very sure my left titties bigger than my right titty anyway,
So that's going to mess with all kinds of ship
as it is. So it's just it's one of those
because it's like I looked down and I'm like, well,
a lot of things are square, but it's my rib
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cage weird. And I'm like, I'm pretty sure it is
one of my titties is bigger. I did not see
that coming, but um, I mean it's it's an issue.
I mean, if you can find a way to speak
to women about things like this without sounding like Andrew Cuomo,
you will be well to find out that you're not
going to have a lot of symmetry. If you spend
time truly looking at someone's face, they're not There's a
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reason why models have so much symmetry is because that's
why they're models is because yeah, it is rare um
you know, like Tom Cruise, like he's got like three
front teeth or something like that or five or whatever
it is, or is his his teeth are you know,
kinked off to the side. You don't realize that he's
still looked upon. Is one of the most gorgeous men
in the world. But when you actually sit and look
at his teeth, you're like, first of all them teeth
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you had before a top gun like christ alive. And
then secondly after they did that, like this is what
they did. Like symmetry is is there's a time and
a place for it in a lot of ways. But
my golden ratio is very different. And now I feel
like I can stop swinging and I can fucking play,
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which is so exciting. That's huge. That's that's all you want.
And you said something a minute ago that it it is
like so key is when when you compress the ball
and you have a solid strike, the wind doesn't touch
the ball, like it'll just tear through the wind. And
when when the strike is just not quite as good,
that's when your ball gets tossed all around and well,
that's when it looks like the lawnmower came by and
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ate it up before you took a swipe at it. Yeah,
I mean it's it's so different. Like I've learned this
plane and band and a lot like you don't have
to overthink the wind. You just have to hit it
flush and then your ball is gonna go more or
less where you want to. Absolutely absolutely, as well as
looking at and and again, like a lot of the
rounds I played in UM on this trip have been
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with the prevailing wind, which has been great because you
get to see the way the course was meant to
be played by way of utilizing and using the land.
And you know, like, okay, the wind is you know,
more or less seven seven thirty winds, so that means
that the ball is going to be you know, falling
a little bit to the right. And oh yeah, if
you actually look, you know there is that you know,
like there's that camera in the fairway there that's going
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to cause the ball to to trickle off and you know,
or you can you know. And and another thing is
I'm doing a lot better I've never been. I'm not
a fighter. I'll argue, I'll debate, um, I'm not a fighter. Though,
And I don't like holding things up against the wind
like I like using the land. I like using the
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wind and and being non resistant and just being like
you can still snuggle it up close if you know
where to land it and how to play it. Um,
and just being back on fescue grass. I mean, there's nothing.
Fescue is my favorite strain of grass. It's the best.
It's tough though, if you have if you have a
wind coming hard out of the right and and you
play a draw and you ride the wind, that your
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ball comes in so hot. I mean, if you can't
cut it up into the wind, that's better. Club up.
I like two clubs and ship no. I know that
that's always when I struggle with you just got to
land on the front, let it run. But it is
it is so fun when you pull it off. Um,
well this, I'm excited that you're excited. I mean that's big.
I can't wait to watch this tournament. I'm very I'm
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keenly interested in dumb Barney like it is spectacular. It's
just there's new links courses being built, like you know
you tink King's Barns and um Castle Stewart. I mean
those are A plus plus courses and you know there
are ten years ago, but now you have Dumb Barney,
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you have St Patrick's Links that um the doke just
built up in northwestern Ireland and hogs Head's not really links,
but it looks like a pretty cool spot. I mean
you kind of it's like the New York Skyline. You
feel like every building is already been built and every
time I go there, there's a new skyscraper. And we're
kind of like that with links courses like wow, like
they're still coming online and how cool is that? And
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all the more reason to get over there and just
play some golf. So absolutely anyway, Well I can't wait
to watch, and um, as always, I'll be pulling hard
for U c K. So, um, why don't you get
some sleep and you can release our listeners. I would
love that. I will. I gotta, I gotta pull another
(43:04):
another full send segment for this episode. And yes I
am going to harp on Bryson again, and I do
feel bad, but I mean, honey, you guys start yelling
for and you got to get to a point where
you stop being so defensive, like you can't you can't
(43:24):
sit there and say that you do when there's footage
of you not or what's the most pathological, very very
faintly bark for right when it is less than a
second away from hitting the ground. Well I know, and
he's like, oh well my ball, my ball goes so
far they won't hear me. What happens is you got
(43:45):
big lungs, right. But also when when you yell for,
then other people will yell on the tea box and
the marshal and whatever and so and and down the
fair way as well. You hear it. You hear it
when when when people yell for travels, I mean, it's
sort of a viral thing to to use another Bryson issue,
(44:06):
like when you yell for, other people yell for, and
it just it gets spread from person to person, much
like the coronavirus. And that's a whole other kettle of
fish with Bryson kind of yelling for because he wants
to leave that for people that actually fucking need it. Mike,
it's just so, Mike job. That's it. There's anything else. No,
you're done. That's it. That's a perfect ender. Well, thank
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you for listening. Make sure that you're subscribed to this podcast.
Tell all your friends give us a rating. Any thoughts
and opinions you may have, please share with us on
social media. I am at the Christina Kim on all
social media platforms. Alan is at Alan schipnuk on Twitter
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and on Instagram, and so I just want to say
thank you guys for listening. I'm sorry if this episode
was maybe a little bit more chilled out. It's a
quarter to eleven here in the evening um, which again, Alan,
thank you, and I'm sorry because my brain was so
not worky work that I told him let's film at
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four thirty your time, and by your time, I meant
my normal time, which is the East coast of the US.
So we're actually filming. Uh, it's about two forty five
where Alan is right now. So thank you. I'm sorry
that Monty had to go on a shorter walk, but
on behalf of everyone at the Firepit Collective, I just
want to say they thank you for listening to another
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episode of Full Send with Christina Kim and Alan. That's
a rap. Bye.
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