March 27, 2023 • 63 mins
Willie D sits down with Dr. Candace Matthews discussing her work in the community, child protective services, her role in establishing the New Black Panther Nation chapter in Houston, holding politicians and local officials accountable, her journey and more. Tune in and join the conversation in the socials below.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You know boys, it's back and reot it all in
your mind. Yeah, and that deep throating. This is for
the streets, the real, the relroading, the distant franchise, the
truth to escape Golding, and they ain't knowing we speak
the truth, so they ain't quoted because we wrote it.
The North South against Code is the g be my
for keeping your head bobbing, and it ain't no stopper
(00:22):
and wants to be drives head by And then the
system is so corrupted they threw the rock out of
their heads and then blame it on us. Don't get
it twisted on Code and me and dance it for
now buttament biscuits, it's Willie d y'all reloaded with another
episode of information and instructions to help you navigate through
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this wild, crazy, beautiful world. In the studio, Doctor Candice,
you know what. Everybody should know your name by now,
but I'm gonna go ahead and say it anyway. Make
sure you put some respect on it from me. Doctor Kenneth.
Doctor Kenneth Matthews is in the house. You know you
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have been doing some phenomenal work. Phenomenal work I'm talking about,
like you've been putting it on the line. You've been
doing this for a long time, but more recently you've
gained a lot of notoriety for holding our elected officials
feet to the fire. Where'd you get your sense of community? Well,
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I got it directly from my parents, actually, because I
grew up around politics, you know what I mean, Like
my mom and dad was cool with Mickey Leland. Mickey
Leland used to come in gumbo, fried shrump and fish
at our house. You sleep on the couch at our house.
So it's kind of like I was kind of always
around it. But then I was pushed into it when
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I became a business owner. So I owned a foster
adoption agency, and the stuff is tied in to federal
legislation as well as state legislation. So when I got
into a lajam when I first got started, because I
had the wrong people working for me who clearly didn't
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have your best interests, and so I had to get
a team to come in to come help me get
everything in order, and so had state reps of Fronya
Thompson had stepped in the gap and came in and
helped me out to where we got everything on a
level playing field and so then I was like, you
know what, this business is tied into politics because these
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state people go hard on your first until they realized
that you connected with certain politicians. Right, So I was like, Okay,
it's something more to this. Right. So then I was
invited to the Texas Coalition of Black Democrats meeting first
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time going never knew none of these people in my life,
and so they were doing an endorsement screening at this
specific time. Now I'm on the outside looking in, and
I have education sense and also street sense. So I'm
listening to these politicians telling everybody what they want to hear,
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but it's nothing in place to hold them accountable. Right,
So before I became a member, I listened a little bit,
and then before the meeting was over, I said, I'm
gonna give my opinion, but I'm gonna pay my dues
first before i give my opinion. And then when I
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turned around and I gave my opinion, I paid my
dues and I said, first of all, everybody in here
that's doing this endorsement shit is fake. It's fake, I said,
because I come from the child welfare background, and the
state comes in our office every month or sometime every
other month, and we have to have records to show
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what is it that we're doing that we're staying on benchmark.
So my question is, y'all don't have anything in place
to show what is it that y'all have when they
come in here to come in here in line stuff?
What is it that you have to hold them accountable?
So then I was presented that charge that night, why
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don't you create an accountability program? I say, oh, yeah,
you show you on that. The's like yeah. So I
created the accountability program where it had all the evaluation
tools for every level of government. Okay, then I created
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a spreadsheet where we can go in to see when
you're dealing with your congressional or your state legislators, to
see what they voted on, what they didn't vote on.
Because what I noticed was that people in the community
that look like us, we really didn't know who the
for because the only thing that we did was just
name recognition. You know what I'm saying. But now it's
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something in place to show if you come in here
telling us one thing, but you didn't voted another way,
we got records to show that if you run around
here on your Texas Ethics Commission report. Receiving funds from
donors who will utilize you as a puppet, We're gonna
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know about it. So now by me creating that program,
it expanded to where they wanted me to do it
for the entire state. So I did it for the
entire state. So I'm all around, you know, Texas, laying
a him on everybody, because one I'll go through legislative
session and if I see that you're voting for something
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that's not in the best interest of black people, I'm
gonna tell your hands up. And nine times out of ten,
what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna bring all the media
stations out there and i'm gonna light you up. Then
if you're going to any community meetings and you over
here line of these people, I'm gonna coming, then I'm
gonna aggivate that whole meeting and I'm gonna get these
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people to proof on your line tail. And so that's
how I just went, you know, from there, and throughout
the whole process, it was like majority of my hats
was men. I ain't had no women. It was all men.
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You know what, And it's to be honest, it's the
darkness of me right now to even fathom, well, we
got something in common though, because the majority of my
hate is a man. Also, what's up with that? I
don't know? And it's kind of like, but my thing is,
I don't feel that I'm manly, but I feel no.
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I'm saying that hating on for a man, to hate
on a woman or a man is unmanly, That's what
I'm saying. Yeah, And it's like, what I don't understand.
Let me tell you something, bro, what I didn't understand.
I was like, wait a minute, who are these people? Like?
Who are you to say something about me? And you
don't even know me? You know what I mean? Like,
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you don't know nothing about me? And you over here
running your mouth and really low key while you over
here running your mouth, and let me find out who
you are, you donna get your ass wood. But see
I had to bring that Northeast and put it in
the back pocket, you know, because see it wouldn't turned
to small other stuff, you know. But um, but when
I got into more in the cracks and crevices and
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in the valleys, the highs and lows, I started to
see a lot of fake stuff that was actually happening. Too,
and a lot of fake stuff that the average person
wouldn't be able to see. I wanna be able to notice,
you know what I mean. That was the first time
I was able to see when they put this smoke
screen type theatrics out there. So now you know, damn well,
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you voted for this, but then you coming back to
the community like you're fighting against it, you know what
I mean. So that was the purpose of having that
accountability system where you hold them accountable and you hold
them to Hey, this is what you said, but this
is not what you're doing. And then when you bring
it to the community and then the community have trust
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in you, then they're gonna ride with you, you know
what I mean. And so me, I've always had a
good reputation in the community because I come from a
good home. Let's talk about that good home. You grew
up on the northeast side of Houston. But fun would
ye you know, went to C King and all that
good stuff and L bcl More you know my old
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stomping grounds. Uh you know, I'm assuming you played at
and see the gas park at some point. Who did? Yeah,
So your roots on the northeast side of Houston, you
grew up in the household with who, with my mom
and my dad. And that was interesting enough because I've
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always grew up around my aunts, uncles. They're married, they
have their children, you know, my grandpa, grandma, they married.
Then you have your other grandparents and your other aunts
and uncles, so you never really seen a single parent.
I never seen that, and so you know how I
was introduced to that when I entered school, because my
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whole complete lifestyle was for me to see the mama,
the daddy and the kids. You go on to church,
you know, if you don't go to church, family reunions, graduations, parties.
I mean, stuff that was normal. It's like normalized stuff
in your traditional black families. That's what I grew up with.
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But then when I came into meeting other people from school,
I didn't know anything about foster kill. I didn't know
anything about kids being adopted, you know, I didn't know
anything about Oh, yeah that's my mama boy friend, but
my daddy live over here. You know. Oh that's my
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daddy girlfriend and I don't like her, but my mama,
you know, she over here. And then for me to
be that friend that your friend had come to you
and tell you that I don't like my daddy, but
I want to stay with him. But then I got
to stay over here with my mama because she got
to get the child spool for my daddy. I've never
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knew anything of that caliber until I started going to
school with kids who experienced that. And so our house
stayed full of kids, Like my mama had everybody over that.
We had everybody kids was over there. My mom took
care everybody kids. That's why everybody loved to today right now.
And so they were come to the house and they
would share their stories and everything at the house, and
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then they were always would tell me it was like, Kennis,
you lucky, like you got both of your parents, like
you got your mom or you got your daddy. And
then on top of that, like you become the school
fresh you know what I'm saying, Like you be up
on the latest stuff and everything. And I was like,
but that's what your parents supposed to do, though, you
know what I mean. And it was just a different
ball game, Like I never dealt with having a sister,
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and we didn't have the same mom and daddy, you
know what I mean. It was just interesting, Like I
just wasn't used to it, you know, right, And I
guess that's why you have the family dynamic that you
have to day. You're a married woman. How many kids? Yet?
For kids? Now? How is it that you were able
to this is tricky, y'all get ready for this. How
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is it that you're able to be this opinionated woman
who is not docile, firm, fair, loving, generous, but also
a woman who can be aggressive when need be. How
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is it that you can be that and still be
all the things you need to be to your man,
It's all about balance because first of all, you can't
be married with or any kind of man. I'm assuming
you saw that also you saw some examples in that
with your mother, Yeah, because it's kind of pigy on
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that my mom and dad's relationships here. My dad was
always the man of the house, right. My mom made
sure that he was the man of the house. But
my dad was not that type of man to put
down his wife. I think he made sure that he
was the man of house and your mom accepted it. Nah.
I think it was kind of mutual type thing. Because
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you gotta keep mind they both come from a background
with a hand Both of their pas Why I say
it up, Here's why I say that. Because here's why
I say that, because I don't care who a woman is.
No woman made a woman can make me assume my
role as a man, like no woman gives me a
permission to be a man. I'm a man by essence,
just like somebody was saying, what he allowed her to
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be the woman? No, she is the woman, you know, No,
he is the man. But I think they kind of
jailed because you gotta keep mind they both came from
a family structure that was there, that was already in
place like that, you know what I mean. And so
and what I've noticed also is that the reason why
we have a lot of families that are broken up
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like that, because a lot of them do not come
from that find that that that that foundation family structure,
you know what I mean. Because in my opinion, and
I could be wrong, but this is my take, you
have some females that out here that I don't need
a man. You know, I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do,
and I'm gonna do it how I do it. You
know what I mean? That you have men out here? Well, look,
I ain't a female gonna do what I say and
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gonna do it how I do it, or if not this,
she can roll you know what I mean. And those
are two toxic type ideologists, you know what I mean?
And so like in my household, because I'm gonna be
transparent in my household. See, I'm married to a real man.
See my husband used to be a street nigga back
in the day with much respect still in the streets.
But we have a relationship where we respect each other. Right,
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Nah do I sometimes go off phone that joker. Oh yeah,
I go off phone him if it's something that I
don't like, right, But what I noticed about him, he
don't ague with me. You know that, he don't ague
with me at all. He'll turn around me like you're right,
you're right, And that makes me even more matter, you
know what I mean. You know why he know why
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he does that because he understands that women oftentimes do
not care about being right. They just want you to
agree with them. You just say, you know what, you're right,
You got, That's how it is. But you know, yeah,
and it's like and so like with me. You know,
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I can be like if I feel disrespected or if
I feel and it's not even as him being disrespectful.
It could be people that's around him that could be
possibly disrespectful. Then I turn around and check this shit,
you know, I check it, and then I'm gonna turn
around and I check him too, you know, and then
he'll turn out be like wait, man, hold up, hold
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up now, wait wait wait, let's talk about this. Or
if he's not, let's talk about it. Then he'll be like,
you know what, you're right, we're moving on because seeing
you're going to Pettyville, and see I'm about to deal
with you when you're in Pettyville. Now when you're talking
about this checking, I'm assuming this is a private conversation.
This checking is not public. No, I wouldn't say that
it's public, and I really, to be honest, let me
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rephrase that. I wouldn't necessarily say checking towards my man.
But I'm gonna check those outside influences. If I feel
that it's something that's that comes from an outside influence,
then yeah, I'm going all the way ten thousand on you.
You know what I mean, I'm gonna turn from Candice
until a whole King Cobra, because you know, King Cobra's
eat snakes okay, and if you're doing some snake shit,
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I'm gonna come after you, huh. Which brings me to
Austin County. Oh, Lloyd, same man. The folks in Austin
County is living in a bubble. Give us an update
on miss Betty Smith's case. Well, right now, this is
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the black woman. For those who don't know, this is
sixty five year old grandmother who was beaten by three
white employees at a store after she found a fifty
dollars bill on the floor. They felt like she didn't
deserve that fifty dollars bill, so they wanted to take
it back from her, and she was literally fighting for
her life. They actually kidnapped Hilda against the wheel inside
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of the store. They locked the doors on it, and
the police and ended up sending her to jail, right
and her daughter and her granddaughter and the daughter. Oh yeah, yeah,
Austin County. Y'all are you y'all deplorable? Man? Y'all your
mama should be embarrassed in your dad and should have
pulled that Go ahead, Kenna, Well, what's going on right
now is that they have legal representation and so that
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process is going on right now. As far as dealing
with her civil rights being violated, and even with her
daughter as well as the granddaughter. So that's in process
right now, and I can't really, you know, properly divulge
a lot of it because it's in process. But what
was interesting to me when we end up dealing with
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this case, the granddaughter sent me the video to my
inbox on Facebook, you know, and sometimes I really don't
take you know, people inboxes if I don't know you,
you know what I mean. And so I just so
happened to take a look at it. And then I
didn't even know brother Cornell looked at it. So being here,
I'm calling each other about this situation. So we was like, yeah,
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we got to move on this because that's that's just
not right. Like we looked at the video, We looked
at what happened, how it happened, and those people had
their audacity, nobody at the temerity to say we was
restraining her baby. I am trained to teach restraints. That
wasn't a restraint, that was an assault, you know. And
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you locked this lady in that store, violating her civil rights.
And then the fifty dollars did even below need one
of you jokers, you don't need the fifty dollars actually
belonged to a customer who was their prior, and they
didn't even know it. They didn't find out who that
customer was. Well, yes they did, because when they went
back and looked at the actual video, the video showed
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that it fell out of his pocket. Okay, but the
fifty dollars was not in the cash register. The fifty
dollars was not on the floor behind the cash register.
The fifty dollars was on the floor in front way
to the other side of the cash register. So in
the state of Texas, if you find something that no
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one has claimed as yours, right, So what happened to
the fifty dollars? Did the guy ever get the fifty dollars?
You know what, I really don't know if the guy
got the fifty dollars or not, because no, because what
they tried to do. The owner of the store, because
he was so just just upset about what actually happened,
and he fired those employees. He offered to give the
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grandmother fifty dollars back, and the grandma was like, nah,
I don't want the fifty dollars. And then the cold
think about that situation was that all she was doing
was going into the store to get her special needs
son to ice cream. The special needs son was in
the car, you know what I mean. And so this
fifty dollars in below, and neither one of y'all that
was in that store. The grandmother even said, well, look
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called the owner. I'll give the fifty dollars to the
owner if you know, if need be, you know what
I mean. So she wasn't really just like tripping. She
was more and less like, hey, this is my lucky
day out of five fifty dollars. And then y'all go over.
He ain't just go straight gorilla on this grandma, and
don't thank You're not going to get some consequences behind it.
So what ended up happening. We end up going to
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Austin out of Belleville, me, Brother Quarnell, some of the
Black Panthers, some of the pastors, community members, families, all
of us was there the first time, and we made
a demand that that DA in Austin Countar you need
to make sure you look at this video correctly, and
you need to make sure that charges need to be
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made on all three of them. And then brother Quannell
was very adamant about that man putting his hand on
that grandmother because brother Quardell was like, I'm about to
bring all these black panthers to this boy Highs and
we're gonna get some straightening going on. Right. So without
that process we heard, we hardly hear anything. Then probably
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about a month later, no charges. So and who determined this,
I'm assuming the clan jury, yeah, the supposed Yeah, the
clan jury, like you said, the jury, yeah, but it's
the clan clan Because by the way, for everybody out there, Uh,
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that was a phrase that I coined. So when y'all
start hearing it everywhere else, like all the other stuff
that I'd be saying, people be picking up and not
be giving me my credit for, you know, so you
know I would use that one. So, um, it was
interesting because we did bring up about the the ethnic
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the the ethnic makeup of that specific jury because so
y'all telling us and some of these people have prior histories,
you know, prior criminal histories and things like that, and
so you're telling us that this video we've seen the
same video that you looked at. So you tell telling
me that you didn't see no charges whatsoever. And we've
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seen the same damn video, right, So that's when we
surrounded that uh DA's office and it went viral, of course,
and we sent a message. And what I like with
Brother Cornell did. He said, and I'm gonna give you
something better. We're gonna start a New Black Panther Nation
chapter right here. I'm gonna give you something that you need,
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something that you don't want, but I'm gonna give you
what you need. And so that's how we end up
establishing another chapter in Belleville. Now, when did y'all do that?
Uh that actually happened that day? So and who is
the leader of that chapter? I think it's that pastor
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I forgot his actual name right off, but um, but
it is a chapter theretos Loaded podcast, we'll keep right
back after the spot. Let's get into the New Black
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Panther Party and how you mean the nation, because it's two.
You got the New Black Panther Party that's not us,
and then you got the New Black Panther Nation, which
is us. Okay, I'm glad you clarified that the New
Black Panther Nation correct led by Brother Cornel X. Correct,
Good Brother Cornel X. How did you in Coinnell and
meet in the first place? And what brought about this? Uh,
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this relationship? Did you guys have, um, you know with
working together to better society? You know what? Me and him, Uh,
we linked up on one case and this was a
case I think that we all was kind of had
some interest with. I can't remember exactly which case was
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because we worked on so many and me and him
hit it off, you know from there. And I'm the
type of person. I'm a straight up person, you know
what I mean. I like to judge people for myself
and who you are and for me to know if
you're a snake or not. Right, Because I had so
many people saying bad stuff about this brother, you know
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what I'm saying, saying stuff like he takes people money
and he'd do all this and he do all that right.
And this brother was very transparent with me. This brother
showed me straight lawsuits that he won on these people
who saying this stuff about him, you know what I mean.
Then on top of that, when me and him work together,
I said, you know what, I need you to teach
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me the game on how to deal with the media,
because you gotta keep him out. I already had a
platform too before me and him linked up, and my
platform was with the Democratic Party for the Black Caucus.
And so when me and him linked up and I
told him, I said, I'm gonna be a student, and
I want you to be the teacher to show me
how to navigate with this media part. This brother showed
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me how to write press releases. This brother showed me
how to send out press releases. This brother showed me
how to play the media on certain instances, as far
as like, you don't want to make yourself too common,
because then if you turn around and do so many
press conferences, they're not gonna come out. So he showed
me the game on how to deal with certain media
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outlets to give them the exclusive and then make them
fight for the next exclusive and things like So he
just taught me the whole entire game on how to
do it, and also even how to conduct an actual
press conference and how to navigate through a press conference
to the fact where you don't be liable, you know.
And me and him worked on several several cases together,
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and some of the stuff what I found interest in.
He'll turn around and I'm like, brother Cornell, you're on
your way and he'll be like, now you got it,
and I'm like, did this joke? Could just leave me
up here to do this? And I turned around and
rocked it. And to this day right now, I'm the
only person that can speak on his behalf if he's
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not there, because he told me, he said, you got something,
you gotta light that's in you. You have something, and
you're gonna get bigger. And he said that I'm gonna
perpetuate it. So at what point did he give you
that role that you have with and what exactly is
your role in the New Black Panther Nation? And you
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know what, And I'm glad you asked that question because
I didn't all the way jump into the New Black
Panthers at all, because I still kept the Rainbow Push
Coalition with Revend Jesse Jackson and also the Black Caucus,
which is a text coalition of Black Democrats, and so
we would do things. It'll be joint organizations that we
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would do. And so I got to send you know
how they move what they do because I'm all about
black people at the end of the day, and when
I saw seeing that they actually out here doing things
for black people and about black people. I was like,
you know what I say, brother Cornell, I'm gonna come
on and join. I'm gonna join. And he said, well
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you join. I want you to be my national Minister
of Politics because you already in the politic realm. Already
you know how to navigate through that. And sometimes he'll
call me to ask me to reach out to a
politician on certain things, or if he need to phone
number and things like that. Because I'm in that arena,
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I want to pause for a moment to recognize what
Quannelle saw, what the insight that he had to to
bring you in. He saw that light in you, and
he saw that blood, that new blood that we have
to have to keep the movements going. Like this is
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how they're able to throughout so many movements. You have
one person at the helm and they feel like it
when they stop that person, the movement stops. But if
you have a quantels and a doctor Kennis Matthews teaming up,
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which nobody saw coming. I didn't see it coming and
I'm on the streets. You know what I'm saying. I
got my pulse on the community. I see what's happening,
and I didn't see that when coming when I was like, oh,
I know this is going down. I'm like, it's gonna
go down. And I'm talking about here, I'm talking about Bama,
like you go to Bam Bam. You know the funny part,
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this is what he told me to he said. He said,
I'm gonna make you the female meeting, because no nation
is stronger than it's black woman. And what I like
about him is that he's not a male chauvinistic type guy.
You know, he's not misogynistic at all. He believed in
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a woman having a voice. You have a lot of
these jack legs suckers around here that don't believe in
women having a voice at all. They want to try
to solid you, you know. And I actually had that
happen to me, you know, before I joined the nation.
I had that happened to me when I was at
the Capitol doing a legislative session, right And I ain't
gonna say the politician name, but that joke will know
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who he is if you're watching, you know what it is, sucker.
So what happened. We were man, say that chump name.
Let me tell you what's his name. Let me get
the scenario. So he turned around and um, we were
doing a press conference with you know, all the passes
and things like that. And so by me being the
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accountability person and the vice chair of the entire Black
Caucus for the state, they was like doctor Matthews, make
show you know you that Rep Ron Reynolds, all the
may show. I was in the building. Even Garrett Bledsoe
with NAACP that's over Texas. All of them made sure
I was in the build. This joker trying to cut
me bro he turned around and try to get me
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cut out of the press conference. Okay, And so one
of the people that was helping organize this ran it
by me and told me to play on what was
going on, right, say, I'm the wrong person to tell
me that some snake stuff going on, because I'm the
kind of person I'm gonna go straight to the snake
who did it right, And they didn't think that's what
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I was going to do. And I did. And I
told Garret Blesso, I say, you might want to turn
your head because this ain't gonna have nothing to do
with you, all right. So I went over there, I say, say,
it was brought to my attention you went over here
doing some snake shit. Bro. He told me, Well, I say, man,
don't play the fake stuff for me. Doc, I say,
I'll tell you right now. I have full niggas from
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homestead up here in two hours. So I'm gonna tell
you this, and I'm gonna say this again. What you're
not gonna do is try to silence me. Okay, So
I say, are we clear? Because when I walk away
from here and I make a phone call, it's gonna
be a problem for you. We had the whole press conference.
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So what happened since put it this way? Me and
this individual, we got into it again. And this was
with a situation I don't know, if I don't know
if you know about it that happened in Lubbock, Love
but Texas, and there was some racist stuff where they
were calling the children monkeys and yelling nigga and then
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one of the young ladies tried to kill herself in
that process. And so when Reverend Jesse Jackson daughter called me, yes,
and so we didn't we in Texas, we didn't even
knew about the story. But Reverend Jesse Jackson daughter saw
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the story in Chicago, and so she reached out to me,
and she reached out to another politician you know that
was here, and so then that's where the alliance had
came in. And so me and this person was an
alliance together. And so I'm the kind of person I
don't do well with people who try to run the show,
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don't I don't do well with that, right, And so
when this person tried to run the show, it made
it very uncomfortable for some of those families that were
there because they shared the concern like, well, how are
you gonna set up what we're gonna do this press conference?
And you didn't even ask us, you know what our
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religious preference is, you know how we feel about it,
and then you're doing zoom calls and you're not even
involving us, you know, in it, right. And so when
that happened, we all in the group text together. I
turn around and I put it in that group text,
say why did you not invite us and the families
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to this zoom call? I got a problem with you,
and that all of us was at that test. Because
I'm kind of person I'm gonna hit you right there.
And then I turn around and son a personal text
and I said, hey, you need to call me because
we got something to discuss right, Okay, I'm at the
beauty shop get my hat done, you know, and I
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get a call. Hey, cannis, um, all right, what problem
you have? I say, Okay, so the problem that I
have is this one. You did not invite us on
this zoom call, you know what I mean, Me, the families,
none of us, So we really don't know what you passed.
This got going on, you know what I mean. If
we're all supposed to be in a joint effort, then
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it goes from we're trying to get our flights, we're
trying to get everything together so we can plan appropriately,
but you're not answering your phone right then, I said,
Then one of the other elected officials was trying to
call you and you didn't even answer his phone either.
You know what I mean. That's a lie. That's a lie.
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I say, Look, nigga, who are you talking to? Who
are you talking to? Chump? You know what I'm saying,
Because I don't like that snake shit that you did.
And I said, and first of all, you're not gonna
be talking to me like that, like one like I'm
your wife, or if I'm like one of your kids
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or one of the members that you're jack led Church
South like, to me, all of them got it bad
if he talks to them like that, That's what I'm saying.
And so that male toxic molest toxic um misogynistic behavior
was a problem, you know what I mean. And so
then I got the other elected officials because they heard
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about it. There's like, now, look, y'all need to just
squash that. You know what I'm saying, y'all need to
just go and y'all just go and help the people
and stuff like that. Y'all just keep y'all beef aside.
I say, see death right, there is one thing that
I can't rock with in politics because if I know
you're a snake and I know you do snake stuff,
I'm gonna call you out. And then once I call
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you out, I'm not gonna fool with you, you know
what I mean. Like, I'm not gonna sit up here
and laugh in your face like we're cool and we
really not, you know what I mean, Because I know
what type of snake you are. No, I want you
to know. I know what kind of snake you are,
and you better stay up out of my lane because
you keep playing with me. I'm gonna blast your ass.
And that was kind of how I went from Now,
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I mean blast you means that highly criticize and hold
you accountable. Okay. So that's the that's the the university,
that's the university definition. I'm giving the straight I'm giving
the street definition. I'm fire up. Okay. So Candice. Uh,
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often times these problems that that you're you're attacking. Uh,
these when people bring you these issues, a lot of
these issues are systemic, absolutely, and the people who are
are often named in the you know who are who
often are the subjects of the of the of the
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criticism of the finger point or white people. Uh. Are
there any white people that are supportive of you, who
have who have the power, and who have influence. Oh? Absolutely,
I have quite a bit of white people who are
very supportive with what I do and and you're not
what and and like I always would tell them, I said,
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what you're doing is completely out of the box, and
I really appreciate what you're doing and that you're not
falling into the um How did I tell them myself?
I appreciate that you're not falling into the tunnel of
white supremacy because you gotta keep in mind, Like I
always explain to him, See, a lot of black people
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we've been traumatized, broke, like, we've been seriously traumatized, and
we really don't trust white people, you know what I mean?
So by you being these white people that stand away
from that, that is not for the systemic racism, that's
not for the white supremacy, that's not for anything that's
you know, dealing with racism. You know, Hey, we're good,
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you know what I mean? And how do you persuade
white people who see you often attacking the system that
includes white people who are running the system that you know,
you're not against white people, you're just against white people
who are against you. Well, this is what I tell them.
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I'm not against white people. I'm against white supremacist and
I'm also against agents of white supremacy because you also
have agents that look like us, you know, the cocon nuts.
You know Candis owns. I mean, how do you feel
about Candid's owners? I don't like her. You don't like Okay,
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that's one thing, you know, Like I'm the real Candids,
that's the real kid. Yeah, I don't know who the
hell I don't know who the hell it is do
you ever hear her name and just be like, damn,
you know, I wish she didn't have my name. No
what I'd be like, you know what? She just needs
to shut the hell up, and she better not let
me see her ass because I'm a light up. I
think y'all spell your name different. Yeah, I think we do.
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But it's like the stuff that she does is just like, ma'am,
shut up. I think she spells her name. I think
it's us with an ad, isn't it. Yeah, yeahs her
name with an ad. Yeah. I don't like them. Yeah,
I don't like them. She kind of yeah. She was
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recently doing some jackabooing about, um, why does black sel lebrities.
Why don't black celebrities live in black neighborhoods? Why she
don't stay in the black neighborhood. Yeah, well we know,
you know, we know what she's about, you know, uh,
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you know. But the trip part about it is the
people that hear certain things that she's saying, they go like, yeah, yeah, yeah, candids,
that's right, that's right, you know, and people like her,
they're very good at pointing out the obvious things that
people know that you know it's true and you can
agree with. But but then they also, uh what they do,
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They go top heavy. Once they get you, get your
trust on that obvious thing or whatever that they know
they can get you with, then they come back with something,
uh like something assinine, like why don't black celebrities live
in black neighbors But first of all, that's a true
definition of a narcissist. Yeah, well it's not. It's not
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even And she's a gass exactly because because she knows,
she knows that it's about classism, not racism, exactly. She
knows not it's not about racist, about class she knows that.
But the average person may not pick pick up on
that right because you know, you'll never hear Candide Ones
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ask the question, why don't rich white people live in
poor neighborhoods? Live in poor white neighborhoods? Why don't rich
white people live in trailer parks? She'll never ask that question. Well,
because she's an agent, Well WILLI you already know what
it is she's she's actually by design to be put
on that type of platform, you know what I mean?
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Because one, she's a gas lighter, and that's normally what
they do. And so they try to activate the African
Americans that are not woke, you know what I mean,
who actually cannot really see the smoke screen, cannot really
see the foolishes that she's doing, you know what I mean.
But see she gets real or real candids come through there,
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She's gonna get the bears, you know what I mean,
Because you don't know if I'm gonna be on an
educational tone or if I'm being on a hood tone.
And see that's what be killing them. Because just because
I'm educated doesn't mean I have to talk like I'm
straight out of Harvard. I'm gonna talk like Candice, you
know what I mean, because Candice is the one that
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got me where I am. Not the education Candice did
because Candids had to go in now and go get it. Okay,
great point, flip side is just because you got those
you got your fingernails all done up in all that
kind of stuff, don't mean that you're gonna talk hood either.
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So you got you can hit them from any angle.
That's got to be something that you know to have
that you know to be able to do that, like
they can't box you in, Nope, Who who is Candice?
Who is Candice Matthews, not doctor Candice Matthews. Who is
Candice when she goes home and takes off that cowgirl
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had right for you. I Am just a down the
earth's sister. I like the chill. I love my family.
You know, sometimes they get on your damn nerves. You
just be like, man, get out my damn face. Let
me risk for a little bit. And I like to
smoke my stogies. You know. I take care of my mama,
you know, take care of my sisters. You know. Then
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I turn around and provide jobs for people besides me
at doctor Matthews. I provide opportunities for people, you know.
And I'm just I just regular sister, you know that
have respect for herself and have the utmost respectful my people.
That's it, you know, nothing more, nothing less, you know.
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And I just don't like snake shit. And that's what
the doctor Matthews had on all went out it on.
You know. I'm just that person, that's it. Like, I'm
not that type of girl that you know when you
get with a celebrity that you get star struck. You
know what I'm saying. You pull your pass up just
like me, you know what I mean. You may have
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a little bit more influence, you know, with people because
of the work and things that you do. But that
don't give you a pass with me, because I'm gonna
hold you recountable regardless, you know. And and if I
say hey to you and you don't speak to me,
all right, well then you don't gotta worried about me
doing nothing else, but Y'll be jail. So I'm just saying,
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you know, and I've been around a lot of celebrities.
I'd be around a lot of people, and I've always
had and my mom and my dad always say this,
I've always had that type of aura that draw people
to you. You know. People don't not gonna draw to
something that that's just okay. This is something I see
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every day, you know what I mean. They want to
draw to somebody way man, now, who is that? You
know what I mean. It's like anywhere I walk in,
the power gonna come in the room when I walk in,
and you can be the most powerful person in now.
But my mentality is I'm the most powerful person in here.
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How do you maintain your advocacy for children and do
what you do in the community at large. Right, all
of those cases that aut there with people being attacked,
you know, from all kinds of angles, you know, right, political, educational, social,
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How do you do that? Well? The kid thing is
you got to have good people working for you, you
know what I mean. And like member, I told you
the beginning, Like when I first got started, I didn't
have the right people working for me. And so the
a board of directors that I have all come from
experience part of working working at Xon, you know, work
that five Star companies, and then also that was a
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college professor, you know, and we all kind of got
together and created this is how we need to do
this portion in reference to who you need to have
to come in to come work. So my dad, he's dead,
he died in twenty seventeen, but he was on my
board and my dad told me, he said, you know,
when I worked at XON, you know what Xon used
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to do. I'm like what they used to do, he said,
because you know how you got the state always coming
in here, They always coming in here, and they always
ardent and everything. You need to get somebody that worked
for the state to come in and be your compliance person.
I say, you know, I ain't never really thought of that,
And guess what, I have that in place right now,
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And any time that state come up in now, you
ain't finding new because I got the same person who
used to come in and regulate us. Right. So that's
what I mean by having the right people, the right team,
so you can make sure your business is navigated properly.
And I also have a management company that I pay
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out of Austin that handle all of my back office. Now,
one of my employees can tell you that they paycheck
have been laid. Now, foster parent can tell you that
they reimbursement has been laid because I run my business
to a top tier expectation. And see, once you do that,
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the stuff that I do in the community, I'm just
giving back because I'm not charging nobody to do that.
I'm giving back because God didn't bless me to where
I can provide jobs for other people to take care
of their families. So that's basically like me giving a
tide to my community by going in and fighting for
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the underdog and standing in the gap for him, and
I can move the way that I moved too, because
by you not paying me, I don't have to take
it o case if I don't want it. What do
you think about those who do go into the community
and fight for justice for those people who have been wronged.
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Do you think that they deserve monetary compensation? Yeah, if
that's their only line of work, then absolutely, you know
what I mean. But seeing my situation, I've been blessed
because I was already established before I even got into
the activism peace So that's why I can move the
way that I move. But for that actual activist who
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does not have that luxury, then yeah, I believe that
you should, you know, be paid because it takes a
lot of time, It takes a lot of effort, It
takes a lot of countless hours to do what you
do to make sure people are being treated fairly and
have a seat at the table. And that's my point
because those activists, they are the unsung heroes of society.
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These guys go put the work in day, night, seven
days a week, three sixty five. They own the case
all the time, and sometimes we don't get that. We
only see the activists. We don't see that the activists
has a family. You don't see his wife is you
don't see her husband. You don't see their children, you
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don't see the house that they have to pay the
mortgage on the cause, you don't see that they have
a life. And I'm gonna tell you something else about activism.
It is one of the most dangerous jobs in the world.
Oh yeah, because you're talking about oftentimes going up against
and I'm talking about specifically the type of social justice advocates.
You're talking about going up against the machine. You're talking
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about going up against some of the most wicked individuals
known to man. And they are killers, make no mistake,
they're killers. They kill They will literally kill you. Some
of them have it in them to actually kill you.
And so people don't understand what activists have to go through.
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Activists get threats all the time. They get you know,
they get stocked, They sometimes people pull up at their homes.
You know. Uh, sometimes their kids get harassed. They go
through a lot. So say say, this is why I'm
like this him, this is why I'm like this exactly
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because let's see that thing. So let me let me
just share this with you before before I pull out.
This is one a minute, okay, So my thing is
this bro at the end of the day and trust me,
I know how to shoot that thing too. What I
know your muscle. So my thing is this is that
one um, you have to be protected and aware at
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all times because again, just like you said, you're fighting
against a machine, and they will send people to either
come to disrupt your household. They're sending people to come
and try to disrupt your business. They're sending people to
try to come and rattle and shake you up, you
know what I mean. But say you don't have a
rude awaken them when you come over here, right, what
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I'm saying so, hey, just because I'm doctor Matthews, I
mean I ain't strapped because I got it on the pattern.
Say babe, look here, look here. Let me say this.
I'm Houston strong, but I'm Texas tough. Yeah, fam, you
know hey, you know what's what's the what's the what's
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the Kyle girl had without the scrap? You know what
I'm talking about. You know what I'm talking about, like,
and that's how you should be yea. And I encouraged.
I encouraged that for anybody out there who are really
I encourage that for anybody to protect yourself first and foremost,
especially a lot of the ladies that are out there,
because a lot of times people roll up on women
and thinking they're sweet, thinking they're sweet, you know, and
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I kind of I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie.
Every time I see a dude trying to take advantage
of a woman, beating on the woman or whatever, and
she pulled that thing out and light them up. I
kind of chuckle. I chuckle a little bit. Uh, it's
it's it's amusing to me. I ain't gonna front because
I think people should keep that heads to themselves. Everybody leave,
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keep your hands to yourself, Leave people alone, and you
won't have those problems exactly, and know when to walk away. Yeah,
and like see and and see. That's what I catch
a lot of sea. My husband, don't be worried about
me too much, because you know I can handle man.
So but the average person that don't know me, you
don't even know. I got a whole she probably got
about three of a Moment's what I'm saying. So you're
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feeling froggish, I'm gonna make you jump right. I'm saying
you res the old cash. Yeah, I said, you know,
we used to say you're feeling froggy jump. Yeah, I'm
gonna make you. You're gonna make you jump. I'm gonna
get you out with me shooting. So I mean and
and and at the end of the day, bro, it's like,
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regardless of the fact, you have to make sure that
you are safe and what you do at all times
because you don't know where these ops coming from, you
know what I mean, So you have to be very
vigilant with everything that you do. And so just like
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when you wrote that video with me at Houston Community College,
you know what I'm saying. You think I was worried
about somebody? Think you about to come run up on me? Right,
They're gonna be worried about you because I'm gonna light
your ass up because somebody puts something on your comment
one time, UM saying that protect her at all calls
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uh because something It was something that was along those lines.
And I like when you said then she stay strapped.
You best believe she got out of an owner, she
got owner, and she got back and got back up.
That believe that. How do people who want to get
involved with your foundation, how do they get involved as
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far as they want to become parent? Can you can
you Can you volunteer? Can you volunteer without joining as
far as uh are you talking about? Because you know
I wear so many So are you talking about the
actual foster care agency? Are? Because that's that's another deal
and we definitely need foster parents for that. So let
me let me just go this way. Okay, if you
want to join or volunteer with the Texas Coalition of
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Black Democrats, you can definitely do that. You know what
I mean. I give you my my email, which is
doctor which is Dr Candice c A N D I
c E not a ce i CE Matthews with the
s then tcb D which is Texas Coalition of Black
Democrats at gmail dot com. So if you want to
get in, no, what if what if you're a Republican?
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You got some relic They can't. They can't because it's
a democratic organization. Other than that organization, another organization got
something for the Black Republican, anything for the black Republican
when it comes dealing with a chair, because we all
kind of agree a little bit on certain instances when
it comes dealing with kids. So if they want to
help with foster children, my agency name is Children of
Diversity and so you can go to the website which
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is www dot children, dash of dash diversity dot org.
So even if you want to become a foster parent,
or if you want to be a resting provider, or
let's say that you CPS, then play some kids in
your house, but you got to be in the Texas
Houston area of course. And if they place children, then
you come through us so we can license you, so
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you can receive funding to take care of your relatives
if you are a transfer family. So let's say that
you already have kids in your home, you already licensed,
but you had another agency. And if you don't like
how the agency is treating you, then come on to
the protection of the hammer. Because when the state come
over that missed with you, they mean they messed with me.
Come to death that's right, come on death row. But
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that's that's one thing that they can actually help with
as well. So I mean, it's it's rewarding because, believe
it or not, willing I used to be a false
sparing you know, you know I knew that right, Oh
see that now he's been fosparing and I had over
thirty kids graduate under me. Wow, graduate, I had over
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thirty kids graduate high school under me, and I had
about maybe twelve to thirteen they graduated college under me
because CPS pays for their school for free until they
are six or five years old when they go through
the PALS program and that shows them how to write checks,
bank accounts, you know, things like that, and that's designed
in the CPS system. But that's part of it before
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they can receive the benefits as far as what their
college being paid for. And they have to go to
a public university, not private. When you was a foster
paring how many kids were living under the roof at
that time? I had nine. But see now they can't
do it like that no more. You can only have
no more than six. And so my mom was retired
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from being a registered nurse. So I called my man. Now,
I say, mommaa, come out, girl, I need you to
come and help me over here with the young uns.
And so she was like, okay, I come in help
And I put my MoMA on the payroll. I was
paying mama too, you know what I mean. And then
I was the only young lady when I was working. Uh,
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what was the name of that place I worked for?
It was what was the name of that place. It
was singular. It was a wireless place where you do
your cell phones and stuff. Was it what was T
Mobile before it was T Mobile? I forgot the name
of Well anyway, it used to be T Mobile. I
used to work there, and I was the only one
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at that job with a range rover, and they were
trying to figure that out. You know what I mean,
because when I had like nine kids in that house,
the state pays you so many thousands of dollars per kid, right,
so even though I'm collecting my check from my job,
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which I can utilize whatever that I need to utilize
it for to build me together. And then the funds
that I received from the state, I would utilize it
on the kids and also to keep a roof over
our head. And so that's when I moved into, you know,
moving on up to the east side with the wifeo
you know, living in a house bigger than them. And
they didn't understand, like what does she do? Like she
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got all these children and they all different colors and stuff,
and every last one of them chere to cut your asside,
because they'll tell you that I've named mama, you know
what I mean? Because I and my family. We accepted
all of them kids, and we showed them love. You
know what I mean, What do you do with your
agency to avoid children being in the house with parents
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who are that just for the check. So this is
how we do this first thing when they come to
actually apply to be a foster parent. If you don't
have no job, you have to have a job. You
don't have a job, then you can't foster with us
unless it's like kinship that they didn't place you and
these are your relatives and you're just seeking to get
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a license so you can be able to take care
of them. That's different. But we have things in place
for people like that because they do have people that
are out there who are about the money. And like
when I fostered, I worked still, and that's why I
had my mom to come in as my RESCPIE person
so I can work, you know what I mean, Because
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at the end of the day, I didn't feel right
me personally. I didn't feel right because I like to
make my own money. I felt like that money that
I use that the state page, which is actually your reimbursement,
but I use it on the kids, like we'll take
on vacations you know, we would do a lot of
things with those children. They would not going to school
looking halfway half dress. You didn't even know that they
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were Falster kids, you know what I mean. And then
what I loved about my crew is that if I
was to get another kid to come through there, they'll
like that. They'll lace that new kid up, like, yo,
we like what we say. So don't come up in
here with they're lying, you know, because they have foster
children that when they get upset, they allowing the Falster
parent and then to create a whole investigation to the
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fact where they removed the kids to go through the investigation,
and then they'll try to bring the kids back. See,
the kids knew the system too, just like how I
knew the system. So like what I would do, It's
like my kids. I took them to like restaurants, like
they went to Popados. You know. They was like out
guard and teach our fridays all that, and I would
actually have I would always keep the receipts and I
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have everybody's signature on the back of every seat. So
if these state people come up in here, I'm gonna
share everything down grocery lists, everybody's signing the grocery list,
because you can't say that you're not eating. You can't
say that you don't have a roof overhead, you can't.
I mean, I just made it to where everything was transparent.
So the kids they felt safe because you got you
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got a mom that who's stepping up to take kid
of you. It's gonna make sure that nobody's gonna come
in here and mess with you. So when a new
kid would come then turned around, it kind of reminded me,
I ain't gonna lie. It kind of reminded me of prison,
you know what I mean, Like when the dude fish
come over the yard and you thank you for the
coming here with that man's they gonna jam me up.
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That's how those kids were because they protected where they
lived because that was the best how they ever lived.
They never lived in a sixty five hundred square foot
house where everybody got their own room, their own space,
you know, their own closet, you know, and they never
lived like that. These kids came from poverty, you know,
(01:00:58):
and they felt like, I'm in a position now that
I can make it so I'm nothing letting nobody think
they're gonna come in here, because you got a chip
on your shoulder and try to miss up where we live.
And that was what I really love about those kids.
And you know what, to this day, any holiday or
anything that we have is full of cheering. And I
was a fosi pairer before I became a real mother.
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You know that that's crazy. So when I got my
own kids, I was already season. You know, I knew
I had changed the dippers. I knew when a child
got highs. I knew when like my teenage daughter, I
know all the tricks of the trade. You know, She'll
try to do some little slick stuff and I'd be like, girl,
you already know I'm only U six, don't do that one. No,
(01:01:42):
try again, because I already had the experience, and I
had different ages of kids, you know, but the tough,
the tough group that I had was those teenagers. They
were tough. And so the foster agencies really couldn't understand
how this little old woman got control of these kids,
because these were kids that came from other placements that
disrupted those placelets. But then when they came to me,
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I just kept it. I kept a stream with them,
you know, I say, look, I want to know who
you are as a person. You know what I mean.
I'm gonna help you make it, but I can bring
it to the water, but I can't make you drink it. Okay,
But what you're not gonna do. You're not gonna come
in my house and you're not gonna disrupt nothing because
I'm the parrot. You I'm saying, I'm the parrot, and
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I'm gonna respect you, and you're gonna respect me. Now
you feel like you want to get a little gangster
around here, then I'm gonna have these sheriffs in here
and somebody gonna be going to the psych hospital tonight. Huh, Well,
you disrupted a whole lot of things these day. You
got these politicians around here running scared to death. The
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trip part about it is that if they're doing what
they're supposed to be doing, they ain't got nothing to
worry about it nothing. I'll support you exactly, but we
support you and everything you do, and we really appreciate
all the work that you do. We appreciate the work
that the Black Path Nation is doing, the New Black
Path and Nation is doing, the Black Pathers are doing,
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all of the other organizations and the activists that out there,
you guys putting in the work. Man. You know we
can't thank you enough. I want to get you on
the show again, very very soon. Love talking to you.
We got so much more to talk about, but right
now we're out of time. Ladies and gentlemen, Doctor Candice
Matthews appreciate your baby, girl, I appreciate so much. All Right, y'all,
(01:03:34):
y'all be seeing me next time. So y'all, and remember
she got that thing on show. Dude, you want to
put it out again, No more talk. This episode was
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You know boys, it's back and reot it all in
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this wild, crazy, beautiful world. In the studio, Doctor Candice,
you know what. Everybody should know your name by now,
but I'm gonna go ahead and say it anyway. Make
sure you put some respect on it from me. Doctor Kenneth.
Doctor Kenneth Matthews is in the house. You know you
(01:07):
have been doing some phenomenal work. Phenomenal work I'm talking about,
like you've been putting it on the line. You've been
doing this for a long time, but more recently you've
gained a lot of notoriety for holding our elected officials
feet to the fire. Where'd you get your sense of community? Well,
(01:28):
I got it directly from my parents, actually, because I
grew up around politics, you know what I mean, Like
my mom and dad was cool with Mickey Leland. Mickey
Leland used to come in gumbo, fried shrump and fish
at our house. You sleep on the couch at our house.
So it's kind of like I was kind of always
around it. But then I was pushed into it when
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I became a business owner. So I owned a foster
adoption agency, and the stuff is tied in to federal
legislation as well as state legislation. So when I got
into a lajam when I first got started, because I
had the wrong people working for me who clearly didn't
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have your best interests, and so I had to get
a team to come in to come help me get
everything in order, and so had state reps of Fronya
Thompson had stepped in the gap and came in and
helped me out to where we got everything on a
level playing field and so then I was like, you
know what, this business is tied into politics because these
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state people go hard on your first until they realized
that you connected with certain politicians. Right, So I was like, Okay,
it's something more to this. Right. So then I was
invited to the Texas Coalition of Black Democrats meeting first
(02:56):
time going never knew none of these people in my life,
and so they were doing an endorsement screening at this
specific time. Now I'm on the outside looking in, and
I have education sense and also street sense. So I'm
listening to these politicians telling everybody what they want to hear,
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but it's nothing in place to hold them accountable. Right,
So before I became a member, I listened a little bit,
and then before the meeting was over, I said, I'm
gonna give my opinion, but I'm gonna pay my dues
first before i give my opinion. And then when I
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turned around and I gave my opinion, I paid my
dues and I said, first of all, everybody in here
that's doing this endorsement shit is fake. It's fake, I said,
because I come from the child welfare background, and the
state comes in our office every month or sometime every
other month, and we have to have records to show
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what is it that we're doing that we're staying on benchmark.
So my question is, y'all don't have anything in place
to show what is it that y'all have when they
come in here to come in here in line stuff?
What is it that you have to hold them accountable?
So then I was presented that charge that night, why
(04:24):
don't you create an accountability program? I say, oh, yeah,
you show you on that. The's like yeah. So I
created the accountability program where it had all the evaluation
tools for every level of government. Okay, then I created
(04:45):
a spreadsheet where we can go in to see when
you're dealing with your congressional or your state legislators, to
see what they voted on, what they didn't vote on.
Because what I noticed was that people in the community
that look like us, we really didn't know who the
for because the only thing that we did was just
name recognition. You know what I'm saying. But now it's
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something in place to show if you come in here
telling us one thing, but you didn't voted another way,
we got records to show that if you run around
here on your Texas Ethics Commission report. Receiving funds from
donors who will utilize you as a puppet, We're gonna
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know about it. So now by me creating that program,
it expanded to where they wanted me to do it
for the entire state. So I did it for the
entire state. So I'm all around, you know, Texas, laying
a him on everybody, because one I'll go through legislative
session and if I see that you're voting for something
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that's not in the best interest of black people, I'm
gonna tell your hands up. And nine times out of ten,
what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna bring all the media
stations out there and i'm gonna light you up. Then
if you're going to any community meetings and you over
here line of these people, I'm gonna coming, then I'm
gonna aggivate that whole meeting and I'm gonna get these
(06:10):
people to proof on your line tail. And so that's
how I just went, you know, from there, and throughout
the whole process, it was like majority of my hats
was men. I ain't had no women. It was all men.
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You know what, And it's to be honest, it's the
darkness of me right now to even fathom, well, we
got something in common though, because the majority of my
hate is a man. Also, what's up with that? I
don't know? And it's kind of like, but my thing is,
I don't feel that I'm manly, but I feel no.
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I'm saying that hating on for a man, to hate
on a woman or a man is unmanly, That's what
I'm saying. Yeah, And it's like, what I don't understand.
Let me tell you something, bro, what I didn't understand.
I was like, wait a minute, who are these people? Like?
Who are you to say something about me? And you
don't even know me? You know what I mean? Like,
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you don't know nothing about me? And you over here
running your mouth and really low key while you over
here running your mouth, and let me find out who
you are, you donna get your ass wood. But see
I had to bring that Northeast and put it in
the back pocket, you know, because see it wouldn't turned
to small other stuff, you know. But um, but when
I got into more in the cracks and crevices and
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in the valleys, the highs and lows, I started to
see a lot of fake stuff that was actually happening. Too,
and a lot of fake stuff that the average person
wouldn't be able to see. I wanna be able to notice,
you know what I mean. That was the first time
I was able to see when they put this smoke
screen type theatrics out there. So now you know, damn well,
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you voted for this, but then you coming back to
the community like you're fighting against it, you know what
I mean. So that was the purpose of having that
accountability system where you hold them accountable and you hold
them to Hey, this is what you said, but this
is not what you're doing. And then when you bring
it to the community and then the community have trust
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in you, then they're gonna ride with you, you know
what I mean. And so me, I've always had a
good reputation in the community because I come from a
good home. Let's talk about that good home. You grew
up on the northeast side of Houston. But fun would
ye you know, went to C King and all that
good stuff and L bcl More you know my old
(08:46):
stomping grounds. Uh you know, I'm assuming you played at
and see the gas park at some point. Who did? Yeah,
So your roots on the northeast side of Houston, you
grew up in the household with who, with my mom
and my dad. And that was interesting enough because I've
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always grew up around my aunts, uncles. They're married, they
have their children, you know, my grandpa, grandma, they married.
Then you have your other grandparents and your other aunts
and uncles, so you never really seen a single parent.
I never seen that, and so you know how I
was introduced to that when I entered school, because my
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whole complete lifestyle was for me to see the mama,
the daddy and the kids. You go on to church,
you know, if you don't go to church, family reunions, graduations, parties.
I mean, stuff that was normal. It's like normalized stuff
in your traditional black families. That's what I grew up with.
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But then when I came into meeting other people from school,
I didn't know anything about foster kill. I didn't know
anything about kids being adopted, you know, I didn't know
anything about Oh, yeah that's my mama boy friend, but
my daddy live over here. You know. Oh that's my
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daddy girlfriend and I don't like her, but my mama,
you know, she over here. And then for me to
be that friend that your friend had come to you
and tell you that I don't like my daddy, but
I want to stay with him. But then I got
to stay over here with my mama because she got
to get the child spool for my daddy. I've never
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knew anything of that caliber until I started going to
school with kids who experienced that. And so our house
stayed full of kids, Like my mama had everybody over that.
We had everybody kids was over there. My mom took
care everybody kids. That's why everybody loved to today right now.
And so they were come to the house and they
would share their stories and everything at the house, and
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then they were always would tell me it was like, Kennis,
you lucky, like you got both of your parents, like
you got your mom or you got your daddy. And
then on top of that, like you become the school
fresh you know what I'm saying, Like you be up
on the latest stuff and everything. And I was like,
but that's what your parents supposed to do, though, you
know what I mean. And it was just a different
ball game, Like I never dealt with having a sister,
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and we didn't have the same mom and daddy, you
know what I mean. It was just interesting, Like I
just wasn't used to it, you know, right, And I
guess that's why you have the family dynamic that you
have to day. You're a married woman. How many kids? Yet?
For kids? Now? How is it that you were able
to this is tricky, y'all get ready for this. How
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is it that you're able to be this opinionated woman
who is not docile, firm, fair, loving, generous, but also
a woman who can be aggressive when need be. How
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is it that you can be that and still be
all the things you need to be to your man,
It's all about balance because first of all, you can't
be married with or any kind of man. I'm assuming
you saw that also you saw some examples in that
with your mother, Yeah, because it's kind of pigy on
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that my mom and dad's relationships here. My dad was
always the man of the house, right. My mom made
sure that he was the man of the house. But
my dad was not that type of man to put
down his wife. I think he made sure that he
was the man of house and your mom accepted it. Nah.
I think it was kind of mutual type thing. Because
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you gotta keep mind they both come from a background
with a hand Both of their pas Why I say
it up, Here's why I say that. Because here's why
I say that, because I don't care who a woman is.
No woman made a woman can make me assume my
role as a man, like no woman gives me a
permission to be a man. I'm a man by essence,
just like somebody was saying, what he allowed her to
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be the woman? No, she is the woman, you know, No,
he is the man. But I think they kind of
jailed because you gotta keep mind they both came from
a family structure that was there, that was already in
place like that, you know what I mean. And so
and what I've noticed also is that the reason why
we have a lot of families that are broken up
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like that, because a lot of them do not come
from that find that that that that foundation family structure,
you know what I mean. Because in my opinion, and
I could be wrong, but this is my take, you
have some females that out here that I don't need
a man. You know, I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do,
and I'm gonna do it how I do it. You
know what I mean? That you have men out here? Well, look,
I ain't a female gonna do what I say and
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gonna do it how I do it, or if not this,
she can roll you know what I mean. And those
are two toxic type ideologists, you know what I mean?
And so like in my household, because I'm gonna be
transparent in my household. See, I'm married to a real man.
See my husband used to be a street nigga back
in the day with much respect still in the streets.
But we have a relationship where we respect each other. Right,
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Nah do I sometimes go off phone that joker. Oh yeah,
I go off phone him if it's something that I
don't like, right, But what I noticed about him, he
don't ague with me. You know that, he don't ague
with me at all. He'll turn around me like you're right,
you're right, And that makes me even more matter, you
know what I mean. You know why he know why
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he does that because he understands that women oftentimes do
not care about being right. They just want you to
agree with them. You just say, you know what, you're right,
You got, That's how it is. But you know, yeah,
and it's like and so like with me. You know,
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I can be like if I feel disrespected or if
I feel and it's not even as him being disrespectful.
It could be people that's around him that could be
possibly disrespectful. Then I turn around and check this shit,
you know, I check it, and then I'm gonna turn
around and I check him too, you know, and then
he'll turn out be like wait, man, hold up, hold
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up now, wait wait wait, let's talk about this. Or
if he's not, let's talk about it. Then he'll be like,
you know what, you're right, we're moving on because seeing
you're going to Pettyville, and see I'm about to deal
with you when you're in Pettyville. Now when you're talking
about this checking, I'm assuming this is a private conversation.
This checking is not public. No, I wouldn't say that
it's public, and I really, to be honest, let me
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rephrase that. I wouldn't necessarily say checking towards my man.
But I'm gonna check those outside influences. If I feel
that it's something that's that comes from an outside influence,
then yeah, I'm going all the way ten thousand on you.
You know what I mean, I'm gonna turn from Candice
until a whole King Cobra, because you know, King Cobra's
eat snakes okay, and if you're doing some snake shit,
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I'm gonna come after you, huh. Which brings me to
Austin County. Oh, Lloyd, same man. The folks in Austin
County is living in a bubble. Give us an update
on miss Betty Smith's case. Well, right now, this is
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the black woman. For those who don't know, this is
sixty five year old grandmother who was beaten by three
white employees at a store after she found a fifty
dollars bill on the floor. They felt like she didn't
deserve that fifty dollars bill, so they wanted to take
it back from her, and she was literally fighting for
her life. They actually kidnapped Hilda against the wheel inside
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of the store. They locked the doors on it, and
the police and ended up sending her to jail, right
and her daughter and her granddaughter and the daughter. Oh yeah, yeah,
Austin County. Y'all are you y'all deplorable? Man? Y'all your
mama should be embarrassed in your dad and should have
pulled that Go ahead, Kenna, Well, what's going on right
now is that they have legal representation and so that
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process is going on right now. As far as dealing
with her civil rights being violated, and even with her
daughter as well as the granddaughter. So that's in process
right now, and I can't really, you know, properly divulge
a lot of it because it's in process. But what
was interesting to me when we end up dealing with
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this case, the granddaughter sent me the video to my
inbox on Facebook, you know, and sometimes I really don't
take you know, people inboxes if I don't know you,
you know what I mean. And so I just so
happened to take a look at it. And then I
didn't even know brother Cornell looked at it. So being here,
I'm calling each other about this situation. So we was like, yeah,
(18:03):
we got to move on this because that's that's just
not right. Like we looked at the video, We looked
at what happened, how it happened, and those people had
their audacity, nobody at the temerity to say we was
restraining her baby. I am trained to teach restraints. That
wasn't a restraint, that was an assault, you know. And
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you locked this lady in that store, violating her civil rights.
And then the fifty dollars did even below need one
of you jokers, you don't need the fifty dollars actually
belonged to a customer who was their prior, and they
didn't even know it. They didn't find out who that
customer was. Well, yes they did, because when they went
back and looked at the actual video, the video showed
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that it fell out of his pocket. Okay, but the
fifty dollars was not in the cash register. The fifty
dollars was not on the floor behind the cash register.
The fifty dollars was on the floor in front way
to the other side of the cash register. So in
the state of Texas, if you find something that no
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one has claimed as yours, right, So what happened to
the fifty dollars? Did the guy ever get the fifty dollars?
You know what, I really don't know if the guy
got the fifty dollars or not, because no, because what
they tried to do. The owner of the store, because
he was so just just upset about what actually happened,
and he fired those employees. He offered to give the
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grandmother fifty dollars back, and the grandma was like, nah,
I don't want the fifty dollars. And then the cold
think about that situation was that all she was doing
was going into the store to get her special needs
son to ice cream. The special needs son was in
the car, you know what I mean. And so this
fifty dollars in below, and neither one of y'all that
was in that store. The grandmother even said, well, look
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called the owner. I'll give the fifty dollars to the
owner if you know, if need be, you know what
I mean. So she wasn't really just like tripping. She
was more and less like, hey, this is my lucky
day out of five fifty dollars. And then y'all go over.
He ain't just go straight gorilla on this grandma, and
don't thank You're not going to get some consequences behind it.
So what ended up happening. We end up going to
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Austin out of Belleville, me, Brother Quarnell, some of the
Black Panthers, some of the pastors, community members, families, all
of us was there the first time, and we made
a demand that that DA in Austin Countar you need
to make sure you look at this video correctly, and
you need to make sure that charges need to be
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made on all three of them. And then brother Quannell
was very adamant about that man putting his hand on
that grandmother because brother Quardell was like, I'm about to
bring all these black panthers to this boy Highs and
we're gonna get some straightening going on. Right. So without
that process we heard, we hardly hear anything. Then probably
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about a month later, no charges. So and who determined this,
I'm assuming the clan jury, yeah, the supposed Yeah, the
clan jury, like you said, the jury, yeah, but it's
the clan clan Because by the way, for everybody out there, Uh,
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that was a phrase that I coined. So when y'all
start hearing it everywhere else, like all the other stuff
that I'd be saying, people be picking up and not
be giving me my credit for, you know, so you
know I would use that one. So, um, it was
interesting because we did bring up about the the ethnic
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the the ethnic makeup of that specific jury because so
y'all telling us and some of these people have prior histories,
you know, prior criminal histories and things like that, and
so you're telling us that this video we've seen the
same video that you looked at. So you tell telling
me that you didn't see no charges whatsoever. And we've
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seen the same damn video, right, So that's when we
surrounded that uh DA's office and it went viral, of course,
and we sent a message. And what I like with
Brother Cornell did. He said, and I'm gonna give you
something better. We're gonna start a New Black Panther Nation
chapter right here. I'm gonna give you something that you need,
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something that you don't want, but I'm gonna give you
what you need. And so that's how we end up
establishing another chapter in Belleville. Now, when did y'all do that?
Uh that actually happened that day? So and who is
the leader of that chapter? I think it's that pastor
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I forgot his actual name right off, but um, but
it is a chapter theretos Loaded podcast, we'll keep right
back after the spot. Let's get into the New Black
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Panther Party and how you mean the nation, because it's two.
You got the New Black Panther Party that's not us,
and then you got the New Black Panther Nation, which
is us. Okay, I'm glad you clarified that the New
Black Panther Nation correct led by Brother Cornel X. Correct,
Good Brother Cornel X. How did you in Coinnell and
meet in the first place? And what brought about this? Uh,
(23:31):
this relationship? Did you guys have, um, you know with
working together to better society? You know what? Me and him, Uh,
we linked up on one case and this was a
case I think that we all was kind of had
some interest with. I can't remember exactly which case was
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because we worked on so many and me and him
hit it off, you know from there. And I'm the
type of person. I'm a straight up person, you know
what I mean. I like to judge people for myself
and who you are and for me to know if
you're a snake or not. Right, Because I had so
many people saying bad stuff about this brother, you know
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what I'm saying, saying stuff like he takes people money
and he'd do all this and he do all that right.
And this brother was very transparent with me. This brother
showed me straight lawsuits that he won on these people
who saying this stuff about him, you know what I mean.
Then on top of that, when me and him work together,
I said, you know what, I need you to teach
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me the game on how to deal with the media,
because you gotta keep him out. I already had a
platform too before me and him linked up, and my
platform was with the Democratic Party for the Black Caucus.
And so when me and him linked up and I
told him, I said, I'm gonna be a student, and
I want you to be the teacher to show me
how to navigate with this media part. This brother showed
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me how to write press releases. This brother showed me
how to send out press releases. This brother showed me
how to play the media on certain instances, as far
as like, you don't want to make yourself too common,
because then if you turn around and do so many
press conferences, they're not gonna come out. So he showed
me the game on how to deal with certain media
(25:25):
outlets to give them the exclusive and then make them
fight for the next exclusive and things like So he
just taught me the whole entire game on how to
do it, and also even how to conduct an actual
press conference and how to navigate through a press conference
to the fact where you don't be liable, you know.
And me and him worked on several several cases together,
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and some of the stuff what I found interest in.
He'll turn around and I'm like, brother Cornell, you're on
your way and he'll be like, now you got it,
and I'm like, did this joke? Could just leave me
up here to do this? And I turned around and
rocked it. And to this day right now, I'm the
only person that can speak on his behalf if he's
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not there, because he told me, he said, you got something,
you gotta light that's in you. You have something, and
you're gonna get bigger. And he said that I'm gonna
perpetuate it. So at what point did he give you
that role that you have with and what exactly is
your role in the New Black Panther Nation? And you
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know what, And I'm glad you asked that question because
I didn't all the way jump into the New Black
Panthers at all, because I still kept the Rainbow Push
Coalition with Revend Jesse Jackson and also the Black Caucus,
which is a text coalition of Black Democrats, and so
we would do things. It'll be joint organizations that we
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would do. And so I got to send you know
how they move what they do because I'm all about
black people at the end of the day, and when
I saw seeing that they actually out here doing things
for black people and about black people. I was like,
you know what I say, brother Cornell, I'm gonna come
on and join. I'm gonna join. And he said, well
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you join. I want you to be my national Minister
of Politics because you already in the politic realm. Already
you know how to navigate through that. And sometimes he'll
call me to ask me to reach out to a
politician on certain things, or if he need to phone
number and things like that. Because I'm in that arena,
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I want to pause for a moment to recognize what
Quannelle saw, what the insight that he had to to
bring you in. He saw that light in you, and
he saw that blood, that new blood that we have
to have to keep the movements going. Like this is
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how they're able to throughout so many movements. You have
one person at the helm and they feel like it
when they stop that person, the movement stops. But if
you have a quantels and a doctor Kennis Matthews teaming up,
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which nobody saw coming. I didn't see it coming and
I'm on the streets. You know what I'm saying. I
got my pulse on the community. I see what's happening,
and I didn't see that when coming when I was like, oh,
I know this is going down. I'm like, it's gonna
go down. And I'm talking about here, I'm talking about Bama,
like you go to Bam Bam. You know the funny part,
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this is what he told me to he said. He said,
I'm gonna make you the female meeting, because no nation
is stronger than it's black woman. And what I like
about him is that he's not a male chauvinistic type guy.
You know, he's not misogynistic at all. He believed in
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a woman having a voice. You have a lot of
these jack legs suckers around here that don't believe in
women having a voice at all. They want to try
to solid you, you know. And I actually had that
happen to me, you know, before I joined the nation.
I had that happened to me when I was at
the Capitol doing a legislative session, right And I ain't
gonna say the politician name, but that joke will know
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who he is if you're watching, you know what it is, sucker.
So what happened. We were man, say that chump name.
Let me tell you what's his name. Let me get
the scenario. So he turned around and um, we were
doing a press conference with you know, all the passes
and things like that. And so by me being the
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accountability person and the vice chair of the entire Black
Caucus for the state, they was like doctor Matthews, make
show you know you that Rep Ron Reynolds, all the
may show. I was in the building. Even Garrett Bledsoe
with NAACP that's over Texas. All of them made sure
I was in the build. This joker trying to cut
me bro he turned around and try to get me
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cut out of the press conference. Okay, And so one
of the people that was helping organize this ran it
by me and told me to play on what was
going on, right, say, I'm the wrong person to tell
me that some snake stuff going on, because I'm the
kind of person I'm gonna go straight to the snake
who did it right, And they didn't think that's what
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I was going to do. And I did. And I
told Garret Blesso, I say, you might want to turn
your head because this ain't gonna have nothing to do
with you, all right. So I went over there, I say, say,
it was brought to my attention you went over here
doing some snake shit. Bro. He told me, Well, I say, man,
don't play the fake stuff for me. Doc, I say,
I'll tell you right now. I have full niggas from
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homestead up here in two hours. So I'm gonna tell
you this, and I'm gonna say this again. What you're
not gonna do is try to silence me. Okay, So
I say, are we clear? Because when I walk away
from here and I make a phone call, it's gonna
be a problem for you. We had the whole press conference.
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So what happened since put it this way? Me and
this individual, we got into it again. And this was
with a situation I don't know, if I don't know
if you know about it that happened in Lubbock, Love
but Texas, and there was some racist stuff where they
were calling the children monkeys and yelling nigga and then
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one of the young ladies tried to kill herself in
that process. And so when Reverend Jesse Jackson daughter called me, yes,
and so we didn't we in Texas, we didn't even
knew about the story. But Reverend Jesse Jackson daughter saw
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the story in Chicago, and so she reached out to me,
and she reached out to another politician you know that
was here, and so then that's where the alliance had
came in. And so me and this person was an
alliance together. And so I'm the kind of person I
don't do well with people who try to run the show,
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don't I don't do well with that, right, And so
when this person tried to run the show, it made
it very uncomfortable for some of those families that were
there because they shared the concern like, well, how are
you gonna set up what we're gonna do this press conference?
And you didn't even ask us, you know what our
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religious preference is, you know how we feel about it,
and then you're doing zoom calls and you're not even
involving us, you know, in it, right. And so when
that happened, we all in the group text together. I
turn around and I put it in that group text,
say why did you not invite us and the families
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to this zoom call? I got a problem with you,
and that all of us was at that test. Because
I'm kind of person I'm gonna hit you right there.
And then I turn around and son a personal text
and I said, hey, you need to call me because
we got something to discuss right, Okay, I'm at the
beauty shop get my hat done, you know, and I
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get a call. Hey, cannis, um, all right, what problem
you have? I say, Okay, so the problem that I
have is this one. You did not invite us on
this zoom call, you know what I mean, Me, the families,
none of us, So we really don't know what you passed.
This got going on, you know what I mean. If
we're all supposed to be in a joint effort, then
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it goes from we're trying to get our flights, we're
trying to get everything together so we can plan appropriately,
but you're not answering your phone right then, I said,
Then one of the other elected officials was trying to
call you and you didn't even answer his phone either.
You know what I mean. That's a lie. That's a lie.
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I say, Look, nigga, who are you talking to? Who
are you talking to? Chump? You know what I'm saying,
Because I don't like that snake shit that you did.
And I said, and first of all, you're not gonna
be talking to me like that, like one like I'm
your wife, or if I'm like one of your kids
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or one of the members that you're jack led Church
South like, to me, all of them got it bad
if he talks to them like that, That's what I'm saying.
And so that male toxic molest toxic um misogynistic behavior
was a problem, you know what I mean. And so
then I got the other elected officials because they heard
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about it. There's like, now, look, y'all need to just
squash that. You know what I'm saying, y'all need to
just go and y'all just go and help the people
and stuff like that. Y'all just keep y'all beef aside.
I say, see death right, there is one thing that
I can't rock with in politics because if I know
you're a snake and I know you do snake stuff,
I'm gonna call you out. And then once I call
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you out, I'm not gonna fool with you, you know
what I mean. Like, I'm not gonna sit up here
and laugh in your face like we're cool and we
really not, you know what I mean, Because I know
what type of snake you are. No, I want you
to know. I know what kind of snake you are,
and you better stay up out of my lane because
you keep playing with me. I'm gonna blast your ass.
And that was kind of how I went from Now,
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I mean blast you means that highly criticize and hold
you accountable. Okay. So that's the that's the the university,
that's the university definition. I'm giving the straight I'm giving
the street definition. I'm fire up. Okay. So Candice. Uh,
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often times these problems that that you're you're attacking. Uh,
these when people bring you these issues, a lot of
these issues are systemic, absolutely, and the people who are
are often named in the you know who are who
often are the subjects of the of the of the
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criticism of the finger point or white people. Uh. Are
there any white people that are supportive of you, who
have who have the power, and who have influence. Oh? Absolutely,
I have quite a bit of white people who are
very supportive with what I do and and you're not
what and and like I always would tell them, I said,
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what you're doing is completely out of the box, and
I really appreciate what you're doing and that you're not
falling into the um How did I tell them myself?
I appreciate that you're not falling into the tunnel of
white supremacy because you gotta keep in mind, Like I
always explain to him, See, a lot of black people
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we've been traumatized, broke, like, we've been seriously traumatized, and
we really don't trust white people, you know what I mean?
So by you being these white people that stand away
from that, that is not for the systemic racism, that's
not for the white supremacy, that's not for anything that's
you know, dealing with racism. You know, Hey, we're good,
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you know what I mean? And how do you persuade
white people who see you often attacking the system that
includes white people who are running the system that you know,
you're not against white people, you're just against white people
who are against you. Well, this is what I tell them.
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I'm not against white people. I'm against white supremacist and
I'm also against agents of white supremacy because you also
have agents that look like us, you know, the cocon nuts.
You know Candis owns. I mean, how do you feel
about Candid's owners? I don't like her. You don't like Okay,
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that's one thing, you know, Like I'm the real Candids,
that's the real kid. Yeah, I don't know who the
hell I don't know who the hell it is do
you ever hear her name and just be like, damn,
you know, I wish she didn't have my name. No
what I'd be like, you know what? She just needs
to shut the hell up, and she better not let
me see her ass because I'm a light up. I
think y'all spell your name different. Yeah, I think we do.
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But it's like the stuff that she does is just like, ma'am,
shut up. I think she spells her name. I think
it's us with an ad, isn't it. Yeah, yeahs her
name with an ad. Yeah. I don't like them. Yeah,
I don't like them. She kind of yeah. She was
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recently doing some jackabooing about, um, why does black sel lebrities.
Why don't black celebrities live in black neighborhoods? Why she
don't stay in the black neighborhood. Yeah, well we know,
you know, we know what she's about, you know, uh,
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you know. But the trip part about it is the
people that hear certain things that she's saying, they go like, yeah, yeah, yeah, candids,
that's right, that's right, you know, and people like her,
they're very good at pointing out the obvious things that
people know that you know it's true and you can
agree with. But but then they also, uh what they do,
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They go top heavy. Once they get you, get your
trust on that obvious thing or whatever that they know
they can get you with, then they come back with something,
uh like something assinine, like why don't black celebrities live
in black neighbors But first of all, that's a true
definition of a narcissist. Yeah, well it's not. It's not
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even And she's a gass exactly because because she knows,
she knows that it's about classism, not racism, exactly. She
knows not it's not about racist, about class she knows that.
But the average person may not pick pick up on
that right because you know, you'll never hear Candide Ones
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ask the question, why don't rich white people live in
poor neighborhoods? Live in poor white neighborhoods? Why don't rich
white people live in trailer parks? She'll never ask that question. Well,
because she's an agent, Well WILLI you already know what
it is she's she's actually by design to be put
on that type of platform, you know what I mean?
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Because one, she's a gas lighter, and that's normally what
they do. And so they try to activate the African
Americans that are not woke, you know what I mean,
who actually cannot really see the smoke screen, cannot really
see the foolishes that she's doing, you know what I mean.
But see she gets real or real candids come through there,
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She's gonna get the bears, you know what I mean,
Because you don't know if I'm gonna be on an
educational tone or if I'm being on a hood tone.
And see that's what be killing them. Because just because
I'm educated doesn't mean I have to talk like I'm
straight out of Harvard. I'm gonna talk like Candice, you
know what I mean, because Candice is the one that
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got me where I am. Not the education Candice did
because Candids had to go in now and go get it. Okay,
great point, flip side is just because you got those
you got your fingernails all done up in all that
kind of stuff, don't mean that you're gonna talk hood either.
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So you got you can hit them from any angle.
That's got to be something that you know to have
that you know to be able to do that, like
they can't box you in, Nope, Who who is Candice?
Who is Candice Matthews, not doctor Candice Matthews. Who is
Candice when she goes home and takes off that cowgirl
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had right for you. I Am just a down the
earth's sister. I like the chill. I love my family.
You know, sometimes they get on your damn nerves. You
just be like, man, get out my damn face. Let
me risk for a little bit. And I like to
smoke my stogies. You know. I take care of my mama,
you know, take care of my sisters. You know. Then
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I turn around and provide jobs for people besides me
at doctor Matthews. I provide opportunities for people, you know.
And I'm just I just regular sister, you know that
have respect for herself and have the utmost respectful my people.
That's it, you know, nothing more, nothing less, you know.
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And I just don't like snake shit. And that's what
the doctor Matthews had on all went out it on.
You know. I'm just that person, that's it. Like, I'm
not that type of girl that you know when you
get with a celebrity that you get star struck. You
know what I'm saying. You pull your pass up just
like me, you know what I mean. You may have
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a little bit more influence, you know, with people because
of the work and things that you do. But that
don't give you a pass with me, because I'm gonna
hold you recountable regardless, you know. And and if I
say hey to you and you don't speak to me,
all right, well then you don't gotta worried about me
doing nothing else, but Y'll be jail. So I'm just saying,
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you know, and I've been around a lot of celebrities.
I'd be around a lot of people, and I've always
had and my mom and my dad always say this,
I've always had that type of aura that draw people
to you. You know. People don't not gonna draw to
something that that's just okay. This is something I see
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every day, you know what I mean. They want to
draw to somebody way man, now, who is that? You
know what I mean. It's like anywhere I walk in,
the power gonna come in the room when I walk in,
and you can be the most powerful person in now.
But my mentality is I'm the most powerful person in here.
Girdle spots reloaded podcasts will be right back after the sports.
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How do you maintain your advocacy for children and do
what you do in the community at large. Right, all
of those cases that aut there with people being attacked,
you know, from all kinds of angles, you know, right, political, educational, social,
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How do you do that? Well? The kid thing is
you got to have good people working for you, you
know what I mean. And like member, I told you
the beginning, Like when I first got started, I didn't
have the right people working for me. And so the
a board of directors that I have all come from
experience part of working working at Xon, you know, work
that five Star companies, and then also that was a
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college professor, you know, and we all kind of got
together and created this is how we need to do
this portion in reference to who you need to have
to come in to come work. So my dad, he's dead,
he died in twenty seventeen, but he was on my
board and my dad told me, he said, you know,
when I worked at XON, you know what Xon used
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to do. I'm like what they used to do, he said,
because you know how you got the state always coming
in here, They always coming in here, and they always
ardent and everything. You need to get somebody that worked
for the state to come in and be your compliance person.
I say, you know, I ain't never really thought of that,
And guess what, I have that in place right now,
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And any time that state come up in now, you
ain't finding new because I got the same person who
used to come in and regulate us. Right. So that's
what I mean by having the right people, the right team,
so you can make sure your business is navigated properly.
And I also have a management company that I pay
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out of Austin that handle all of my back office. Now,
one of my employees can tell you that they paycheck
have been laid. Now, foster parent can tell you that
they reimbursement has been laid because I run my business
to a top tier expectation. And see, once you do that,
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the stuff that I do in the community, I'm just
giving back because I'm not charging nobody to do that.
I'm giving back because God didn't bless me to where
I can provide jobs for other people to take care
of their families. So that's basically like me giving a
tide to my community by going in and fighting for
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the underdog and standing in the gap for him, and
I can move the way that I moved too, because
by you not paying me, I don't have to take
it o case if I don't want it. What do
you think about those who do go into the community
and fight for justice for those people who have been wronged.
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Do you think that they deserve monetary compensation? Yeah, if
that's their only line of work, then absolutely, you know
what I mean. But seeing my situation, I've been blessed
because I was already established before I even got into
the activism peace So that's why I can move the
way that I move. But for that actual activist who
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does not have that luxury, then yeah, I believe that
you should, you know, be paid because it takes a
lot of time, It takes a lot of effort, It
takes a lot of countless hours to do what you
do to make sure people are being treated fairly and
have a seat at the table. And that's my point
because those activists, they are the unsung heroes of society.
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These guys go put the work in day, night, seven
days a week, three sixty five. They own the case
all the time, and sometimes we don't get that. We
only see the activists. We don't see that the activists
has a family. You don't see his wife is you
don't see her husband. You don't see their children, you
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don't see the house that they have to pay the
mortgage on the cause, you don't see that they have
a life. And I'm gonna tell you something else about activism.
It is one of the most dangerous jobs in the world.
Oh yeah, because you're talking about oftentimes going up against
and I'm talking about specifically the type of social justice advocates.
You're talking about going up against the machine. You're talking
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about going up against some of the most wicked individuals
known to man. And they are killers, make no mistake,
they're killers. They kill They will literally kill you. Some
of them have it in them to actually kill you.
And so people don't understand what activists have to go through.
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Activists get threats all the time. They get you know,
they get stocked, They sometimes people pull up at their homes.
You know. Uh, sometimes their kids get harassed. They go
through a lot. So say say, this is why I'm
like this him, this is why I'm like this exactly
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because let's see that thing. So let me let me
just share this with you before before I pull out.
This is one a minute, okay, So my thing is
this bro at the end of the day and trust me,
I know how to shoot that thing too. What I
know your muscle. So my thing is this is that
one um, you have to be protected and aware at
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all times because again, just like you said, you're fighting
against a machine, and they will send people to either
come to disrupt your household. They're sending people to come
and try to disrupt your business. They're sending people to
try to come and rattle and shake you up, you
know what I mean. But say you don't have a
rude awaken them when you come over here, right, what
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I'm saying so, hey, just because I'm doctor Matthews, I
mean I ain't strapped because I got it on the pattern.
Say babe, look here, look here. Let me say this.
I'm Houston strong, but I'm Texas tough. Yeah, fam, you
know hey, you know what's what's the what's the what's
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the Kyle girl had without the scrap? You know what
I'm talking about. You know what I'm talking about, like,
and that's how you should be yea. And I encouraged.
I encouraged that for anybody out there who are really
I encourage that for anybody to protect yourself first and foremost,
especially a lot of the ladies that are out there,
because a lot of times people roll up on women
and thinking they're sweet, thinking they're sweet, you know, and
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I kind of I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie.
Every time I see a dude trying to take advantage
of a woman, beating on the woman or whatever, and
she pulled that thing out and light them up. I
kind of chuckle. I chuckle a little bit. Uh, it's
it's it's amusing to me. I ain't gonna front because
I think people should keep that heads to themselves. Everybody leave,
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keep your hands to yourself, Leave people alone, and you
won't have those problems exactly, and know when to walk away. Yeah,
and like see and and see. That's what I catch
a lot of sea. My husband, don't be worried about
me too much, because you know I can handle man.
So but the average person that don't know me, you
don't even know. I got a whole she probably got
about three of a Moment's what I'm saying. So you're
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feeling froggish, I'm gonna make you jump right. I'm saying
you res the old cash. Yeah, I said, you know,
we used to say you're feeling froggy jump. Yeah, I'm
gonna make you. You're gonna make you jump. I'm gonna
get you out with me shooting. So I mean and
and and at the end of the day, bro, it's like,
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regardless of the fact, you have to make sure that
you are safe and what you do at all times
because you don't know where these ops coming from, you
know what I mean, So you have to be very
vigilant with everything that you do. And so just like
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when you wrote that video with me at Houston Community College,
you know what I'm saying. You think I was worried
about somebody? Think you about to come run up on me? Right,
They're gonna be worried about you because I'm gonna light
your ass up because somebody puts something on your comment
one time, UM saying that protect her at all calls
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uh because something It was something that was along those lines.
And I like when you said then she stay strapped.
You best believe she got out of an owner, she
got owner, and she got back and got back up.
That believe that. How do people who want to get
involved with your foundation, how do they get involved as
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far as they want to become parent? Can you can
you Can you volunteer? Can you volunteer without joining as
far as uh are you talking about? Because you know
I wear so many So are you talking about the
actual foster care agency? Are? Because that's that's another deal
and we definitely need foster parents for that. So let
me let me just go this way. Okay, if you
want to join or volunteer with the Texas Coalition of
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Black Democrats, you can definitely do that. You know what
I mean. I give you my my email, which is
doctor which is Dr Candice c A N D I
c E not a ce i CE Matthews with the
s then tcb D which is Texas Coalition of Black
Democrats at gmail dot com. So if you want to
get in, no, what if what if you're a Republican?
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You got some relic They can't. They can't because it's
a democratic organization. Other than that organization, another organization got
something for the Black Republican, anything for the black Republican
when it comes dealing with a chair, because we all
kind of agree a little bit on certain instances when
it comes dealing with kids. So if they want to
help with foster children, my agency name is Children of
Diversity and so you can go to the website which
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is www dot children, dash of dash diversity dot org.
So even if you want to become a foster parent,
or if you want to be a resting provider, or
let's say that you CPS, then play some kids in
your house, but you got to be in the Texas
Houston area of course. And if they place children, then
you come through us so we can license you, so
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you can receive funding to take care of your relatives
if you are a transfer family. So let's say that
you already have kids in your home, you already licensed,
but you had another agency. And if you don't like
how the agency is treating you, then come on to
the protection of the hammer. Because when the state come
over that missed with you, they mean they messed with me.
Come to death that's right, come on death row. But
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that's that's one thing that they can actually help with
as well. So I mean, it's it's rewarding because, believe
it or not, willing I used to be a false
sparing you know, you know I knew that right, Oh
see that now he's been fosparing and I had over
thirty kids graduate under me. Wow, graduate, I had over
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thirty kids graduate high school under me, and I had
about maybe twelve to thirteen they graduated college under me
because CPS pays for their school for free until they
are six or five years old when they go through
the PALS program and that shows them how to write checks,
bank accounts, you know, things like that, and that's designed
in the CPS system. But that's part of it before
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they can receive the benefits as far as what their
college being paid for. And they have to go to
a public university, not private. When you was a foster
paring how many kids were living under the roof at
that time? I had nine. But see now they can't
do it like that no more. You can only have
no more than six. And so my mom was retired
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from being a registered nurse. So I called my man. Now,
I say, mommaa, come out, girl, I need you to
come and help me over here with the young uns.
And so she was like, okay, I come in help
And I put my MoMA on the payroll. I was
paying mama too, you know what I mean. And then
I was the only young lady when I was working. Uh,
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what was the name of that place I worked for?
It was what was the name of that place. It
was singular. It was a wireless place where you do
your cell phones and stuff. Was it what was T
Mobile before it was T Mobile? I forgot the name
of Well anyway, it used to be T Mobile. I
used to work there, and I was the only one
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at that job with a range rover, and they were
trying to figure that out. You know what I mean,
because when I had like nine kids in that house,
the state pays you so many thousands of dollars per kid, right,
so even though I'm collecting my check from my job,
(57:20):
which I can utilize whatever that I need to utilize
it for to build me together. And then the funds
that I received from the state, I would utilize it
on the kids and also to keep a roof over
our head. And so that's when I moved into, you know,
moving on up to the east side with the wifeo
you know, living in a house bigger than them. And
they didn't understand, like what does she do? Like she
(57:43):
got all these children and they all different colors and stuff,
and every last one of them chere to cut your asside,
because they'll tell you that I've named mama, you know
what I mean? Because I and my family. We accepted
all of them kids, and we showed them love. You
know what I mean, What do you do with your
agency to avoid children being in the house with parents
(58:05):
who are that just for the check. So this is
how we do this first thing when they come to
actually apply to be a foster parent. If you don't
have no job, you have to have a job. You
don't have a job, then you can't foster with us
unless it's like kinship that they didn't place you and
these are your relatives and you're just seeking to get
(58:26):
a license so you can be able to take care
of them. That's different. But we have things in place
for people like that because they do have people that
are out there who are about the money. And like
when I fostered, I worked still, and that's why I
had my mom to come in as my RESCPIE person
so I can work, you know what I mean, Because
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at the end of the day, I didn't feel right
me personally. I didn't feel right because I like to
make my own money. I felt like that money that
I use that the state page, which is actually your reimbursement,
but I use it on the kids, like we'll take
on vacations you know, we would do a lot of
things with those children. They would not going to school
looking halfway half dress. You didn't even know that they
(59:08):
were Falster kids, you know what I mean. And then
what I loved about my crew is that if I
was to get another kid to come through there, they'll
like that. They'll lace that new kid up, like, yo,
we like what we say. So don't come up in
here with they're lying, you know, because they have foster
children that when they get upset, they allowing the Falster
parent and then to create a whole investigation to the
(59:30):
fact where they removed the kids to go through the investigation,
and then they'll try to bring the kids back. See,
the kids knew the system too, just like how I
knew the system. So like what I would do, It's
like my kids. I took them to like restaurants, like
they went to Popados. You know. They was like out
guard and teach our fridays all that, and I would
actually have I would always keep the receipts and I
(59:52):
have everybody's signature on the back of every seat. So
if these state people come up in here, I'm gonna
share everything down grocery lists, everybody's signing the grocery list,
because you can't say that you're not eating. You can't
say that you don't have a roof overhead, you can't.
I mean, I just made it to where everything was transparent.
So the kids they felt safe because you got you
(01:00:16):
got a mom that who's stepping up to take kid
of you. It's gonna make sure that nobody's gonna come
in here and mess with you. So when a new
kid would come then turned around, it kind of reminded me,
I ain't gonna lie. It kind of reminded me of prison,
you know what I mean, Like when the dude fish
come over the yard and you thank you for the
coming here with that man's they gonna jam me up.
(01:00:36):
That's how those kids were because they protected where they
lived because that was the best how they ever lived.
They never lived in a sixty five hundred square foot
house where everybody got their own room, their own space,
you know, their own closet, you know, and they never
lived like that. These kids came from poverty, you know,
(01:00:58):
and they felt like, I'm in a position now that
I can make it so I'm nothing letting nobody think
they're gonna come in here, because you got a chip
on your shoulder and try to miss up where we live.
And that was what I really love about those kids.
And you know what, to this day, any holiday or
anything that we have is full of cheering. And I
was a fosi pairer before I became a real mother.
(01:01:20):
You know that that's crazy. So when I got my
own kids, I was already season. You know, I knew
I had changed the dippers. I knew when a child
got highs. I knew when like my teenage daughter, I
know all the tricks of the trade. You know, She'll
try to do some little slick stuff and I'd be like, girl,
you already know I'm only U six, don't do that one. No,
(01:01:42):
try again, because I already had the experience, and I
had different ages of kids, you know, but the tough,
the tough group that I had was those teenagers. They
were tough. And so the foster agencies really couldn't understand
how this little old woman got control of these kids,
because these were kids that came from other placements that
disrupted those placelets. But then when they came to me,
(01:02:05):
I just kept it. I kept a stream with them,
you know, I say, look, I want to know who
you are as a person. You know what I mean.
I'm gonna help you make it, but I can bring
it to the water, but I can't make you drink it. Okay,
But what you're not gonna do. You're not gonna come
in my house and you're not gonna disrupt nothing because
I'm the parrot. You I'm saying, I'm the parrot, and
(01:02:27):
I'm gonna respect you, and you're gonna respect me. Now
you feel like you want to get a little gangster
around here, then I'm gonna have these sheriffs in here
and somebody gonna be going to the psych hospital tonight. Huh, Well,
you disrupted a whole lot of things these day. You
got these politicians around here running scared to death. The
(01:02:49):
trip part about it is that if they're doing what
they're supposed to be doing, they ain't got nothing to
worry about it nothing. I'll support you exactly, but we
support you and everything you do, and we really appreciate
all the work that you do. We appreciate the work
that the Black Path Nation is doing, the New Black
Path and Nation is doing, the Black Pathers are doing,
(01:03:10):
all of the other organizations and the activists that out there,
you guys putting in the work. Man. You know we
can't thank you enough. I want to get you on
the show again, very very soon. Love talking to you.
We got so much more to talk about, but right
now we're out of time. Ladies and gentlemen, Doctor Candice
Matthews appreciate your baby, girl, I appreciate so much. All Right, y'all,
(01:03:34):
y'all be seeing me next time. So y'all, and remember
she got that thing on show. Dude, you want to
put it out again, No more talk. This episode was
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