April 24, 2023 • 64 mins
Deric Muhammad returns to the show discussing solutions of many of the problems in underserved community also and how the youth can apply these solutions to their lives. His new book "New Rules" is now available at www.truthtrafficker.com. Tune in and join the conversation in the socials below.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Yet you know boys is back and reload it all
in your mind.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yeah, now deep throating.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
This is going the streets, the real, the real goading,
the distenfranchise, the truth escapegoating, and they ain't know where
we speak the truth, so they ain't quoted because we
wrote it. The North South East Coaches, the gie be
mocked for keeping your head, Bobby.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
It ain't no stopping.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
And once the bee drops head by and then the
system is so corrupt they threw the.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Rock hot their heads and then blame it on us.
Don't get it twisted on colding. We danced to put
no butterment biscuits. It's Willie d y'all reloaded with another
episode of information and instructions to help you navigate through
this wild, crazy, beautiful world in the studio, the truth trafficker,
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my brother Derek.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Muhammad, piece of mild But how you doing, sir, hey man?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
How you doing man?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Thank you for having me, bro ladies and gentlemen. I
just want y'all to understand this. This, this, this is
one of the good guys. This guy is on the
front lines. He don't just talk it he walking and
everything else in between. This man on a daily basis,
fight for social justice, he fights against police brutality, he
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fights for economic equality. I mean, the list goes on
and on and on. But one of your biggest, biggest,
I would say things that you champion is black male development. Yes, sir,
why is that so important to you?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Black male development is important to me because I don't
think that we as a people are going anywhere until
the black man puts himself in position to take the lead. Again,
I don't think that we as a people are going
anywhere unless we invest in the future of black people.
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I tell people all the time. Right now, there is
a battle for currency supremacy. You've got China, You've got
Saudi Arabia, You've got Russia, South Africa. They're all gang
tackling the dollar. And the conversation is surrounding what should
we be investing in. Some people say put your money
in gold, others say put your money in land. Well,
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the point that I want to make is that no
matter what we invest in, and I believe we should
invest wisely, our greatest investment is going to be the
investment that we make in our children and in the
next generation. And I believe too often the black mail
is left out of the conversation when it comes to
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upw with mobility. When is the last time you had
or heard a presidential candidate come up with an agenda
for the black mail? You don't hear it. So black
mails may up about seven percent of the population in America,
but we get blamed for ninety percent of America's problems.
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So I think that we as black men have a
duty to place our focus on the development of black boys.
And this is the only way that we will survive
as a people. We must invest in the black male.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
And we got to do that as black people. We
got to do that because it's not in their best
interest to do that, because they would be fighting against
themselves because their goal is to make us look bad.
Their goal is to subjugate, to deny, to ridicule, to criticize,
to discriminate. That's their goal against us. So we have
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to be intent on fighting that off, coming up with
initiatives to fight that off. And we have to understand
what we're up against, like, this is not by happenstance.
You know, this is by design, right, This is not happenstance.
This is designed. This is by design that there's never
an agenda for the black man. Oh, there's an agenda. Yeah,
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there's an agenda. There's an agenda right now to emasculate
black men, to see black men as effeminate. That is
an agenda. There is an agenda to make sure that
black men have to be reliant on his woman financially.
That is an agenda that the black man is kept
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out of the household. It's an agenda too. Every time
something happens, when black man goes out and do something reckless,
something forout, it is to make him look like he
is representative of all black males. So their overall plan is, Okay,
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we're going to hold our best up as an example
of who we are collectively, and we're gonna hold your
worst worst up as an example of who you are collectively.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Man.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
And until we see that, we're not gonna get it.
Because I see a lot of dummies on social media
all the time where black people can't do this. Well,
you know, we are worst enemies, you dumb bastards. You
got to be the dumber in a bag of rocks
to believe that. But there are people who believe in
and they think they're smart.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Yeah, and you're right, dear brother. There is an agenda
that is propaganda based, that paints the picture of the
black male as an endangered species, paints a picture of
the black male as be steal, animalistic, maniacal, and literally inhumane.
And as long as that propaganda not only affects how
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the world sees us, because that's not the most important part.
The most important part is how it affects the way
we see one another. And as long as we are
impacted by that propaganda, then we won't see black boys
as being worth investing in. We won't see black men
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as being worth investing in. So that's why the knowledge
of self is critical. See, our young boys have to
be taught who they are, whose they are, and where
they come from. One of the first things that I
was taught in the Nation of Islam is that the
black man is the original man, the maker, the owner,
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the cream of the planet Earth, god of the universe,
and the black man is Alpha and Omega. The question
is asked in our lessons, what is the birth record
of the Black nation? And the question is the Black
nation has no birth record, He has no beginning or ending.
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When you begin to teach a young black male that
his ancestry starts at the beginning of time, not in
fifteen fifty five when the first slave ship landed in Jamestown, Virginia.
It makes him to look at himself a little bit differently.
When you teach him that the Greek philosophy that they're
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taught in college is actually ancient Egyptian philosophy that represents
the stolen legacy of our people, it makes him to
look at himself a little bit differently. See, we think,
brother Will, that our young brothers are out in the
streets gang banging, hustling and being emotional and erratic and
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killing and stealing because they come from the projects and
they don't have anything. That's not true anymore.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Some of the most ridiculous cases that I'm getting a
coming from young brothers who live in the suburbs, who
sometimes both of them their parents make six figures. I'm
talking about a youngster, and this is a true story.
Youngster got killed at a pool party. I mean did
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in bad Will didn't walk right up on him in
broad daylight and shot him in the chest. So when
these cases come to my desk, I started doing a
little research looking on social media. So I'm looking at
the youngster that lost his life on his Instagram page.
You know, laid back. He got a stack of money
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in both hands, and he got an ar fifteen across
his lap. But what people don't know is he's doing
this in a five thousand square foot house. Brother, do
you know that some of these young brothers are ashamed
that their parents made it out of the hood because
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it don't sound cool when somebody asks you where you're
from and you say, oh, I'm from Parentland. You know,
the new neighbor hood that your parents moved in with
the five thousand square foot house. But our culture has
become as such to where we celebrate dysfunction. So a
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lot of my partners, their sons don't want to be
like the good guy that they are today. That rather
be like who they used to be because that is, unfortunately,
what is celebrated within the culture. So I'm teaching our
young brothers every opportunity that I get, you know, don't
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become a crash dummy out here trying to find an identity. See,
if you don't give that young black male and identity,
the streets will give him one and they'll turn him
into a crash dummy. In the process. But I think
it's very very sad. Bro. So many of our brothers
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who came up with us, they fought very hard. Some
of them had to go do time, come home and
get it together to put that family in a better position.
But because their sons, they feel like their life is
supposed to look just like NBA young boys or little babies,
and if their appears to be a little bit different,
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they'll actually be ashamed of that, some of them.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Man, you said a mouthful, You said a mouthful. I
don't understand it. Look, I'm from the hood, man, and
that's just that's my story, right, But I wish I
was not from the hood. Now. Some people would say, well, damn,
will you know if you wasn't from the hood, you
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wouldn't be who you are today. You're right, I probably
would be better than I am today. You see, that's
the part that we don't get, you know, you don't
I know Black people that will say, well, we did it.
It was good enough for us. We walked to school,
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we wore tennis shoes with them, you know. We we
went without eating, or we didn't have three meals a day,
We didn't all this type of stuff. But the idea
is for you to put your kids in a position
where they can be better than you, where they can
have better access, better options. This is why I appreciate
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people like ice Cube so much, who put his who
set up his son Osha Jr. To be able to
have better access than he had. Some people who ain't
ever had ship frowns on that. People that have always
had it understands that, you know, I'm doing this shit
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so you ain't got to go through what I went through.
This is why I'm doing it. This is why t
I was so frustrated with his son, you know, King,
you know, going out there acting reckless and saying, look, man,
I made this shit easy for you. Man, I did it,
so you ain't.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Got to do it. But it's something that we have
to correct within the culture that says that in order
for a black male to get his full respect, he
has to have been tainted at some point. He has
to have been a street guy. He had to have,
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you know, dipped down into the lowest depths of hell,
walked on the edge of a cliff between you know,
Hell and Heaven. You know, you don't have to go
through what some of us went through. In order to
be successful. But if the culture is saying you gotta
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be like Willie d meaning used to be poor, used
to be a robber, used to bus his gun, used
to do this and that, and this is all documented,
been to prison, and now he is a mogul. Okay,
but what if you what if you didn't go through
the used to part be part? What if you never
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went to jail, if you never made f's on your
report card, what if you never dropped out of school? Okay?
Do we still give the black mail that same respect
whose parents opened up those doors for him, we should,
especially if he took what his parents were doing to
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the next level. If your son takes what you're doing
to the next level without going to the penitentiary, without
having you know, a gang tattoos all over his neck
or whatever, then I believe that he deserves the same
respect then the brother who picked hisself up out of
that lifestyle and built himself up into something better. But
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I feel like stories like the story of jay Z,
and this is not a knock at jay Z. You know,
come from the hood, used to sell dope, told a
thousand stories about how much dope he sold. Now the
brothers billionaire. My thing is a black male should be
able to reach Jay Z's level and get the same
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kind of respect even from the streets, without him having
had to go through that dangerous part of his life.
So to the young men who might be listening, bro,
it's cool if you make straight a's bro. It's cool
if you made it through school. It's cool. If you
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went to college and got a degree, get one that
you can use. It's cool. We all gonna make mistakes
in life. But your life does not have to look
just like NBA young boys in order for you to
be respected in the culture. And if people respect you
less because you walk the straight and narrow, then the
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hell with him.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Bro, do you Here's the thing, Dereck. The people who
put so much emphasis on a person having struggled or
being from the hood and ordered for him to be
legit or authentic, there's wrong with society anyway. They don't
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even count many of these people because look, they've picked
up and ran with the narrative, the propaganda that was
put out there for us. Right there are people who
create the propaganda, and they're the ones who say you
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have to be like this, this or that in order
to be accepted. And then you got the clowns, the
coconuts and the dummies who are brainwashed, who have what's
it called syndrome, what's it called Stockholm syndrome, who just
fall right in line with it, and they perpetuated. These
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people don't count. What I don't understand is why there's
so much emphasis on respecting their views, respecting their opinion.
They're not for us. Anybody who thinks like that, it's
not for us. So fuck damn and the harnts they
rode on. You see, that's the way I'm built like.
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They don't even count. It's like a It's like a troll, right,
I got a saying on Willie d Live our block trolls,
because trolls a hose. You see, a troll main objective
is to cause confusion. They go in and somebody can
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have a form where everybody's all positive energy, everything is great,
it's just a beautiful conversation, and they'll just jump in
and throw a monkey wrench in and just basically just
throw a grenade and then walk off. They don't care
what happens after that, whether you fall for it or don't,
They don't care. But if you if you do far forward,
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they actually care more, but it doesn't matter to them.
Their trolls and their goal is never to be progressive.
Their goal is never to add to society, to be
of use to society. Their goal is to be the
nothing that they are, nothing, the nothing that they are,
So they don't count. This is why I disrespect them
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so emphatically. They don't count. So we shouldn't put such
an emphasis on these type of people who really don't
count in the first place.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
I think the way to combat that is. You know,
there's a saying right now that attention is the new drug.
I would go further than that and say that attention
is the new oxygen for a lot of these youngsters.
They live it, they breathe it, and seeing a lot
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of them, they'll put themselves in death's highway just to
get attention. You know, the reason that a lot of
black boys want to be football players is because that's
who gets all the attention in the household. If the
family sat around and watch chess tournaments on Sunday, they
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want to be chess players. It's not just about them
wanting to grow up and make money being an NFL
ball player. It goes back to the childhood in them
seeing who gets the attention, who gets the time, the
quality time from my parents. That's who I want to be,
That's what I want to be like. So what we
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have to do is we have to be we have
to be aggressive in our praise when these young boys
do something right. You know, we have to be more
aggressive in our praise than we are in our condemnation
of them when they do something wrong. So if they
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make all aids on their report card, we make a
big deal out of that. If you catch one of
them helping the elder take their groceries in next, we
make a big deal out of it. Because at the
end of the day, they all want to be celebrities.
And I have a saying, Bro, I say, every child
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should feel like a celebrity in their own household. Feel
like a celebrity in your own house, Bro, do you
know what that feels like. If you make your child
feel like a celebrity in their own household, then they're
less likely to go out into the streets and pull
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a crash dummy move to try to get attention to
be famous in the streets. So I think it, well,
I don't think I know it all starts in the household.
Coming up from the household, it extends, you know, to
the hood. So those of you who may be listening
who have sons, we have to make sure that we're
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letting our sons know how proud of them, that we
how proud of them we are of them when they
do something right, because that's really all they looking for, Bro,
They're looking for time, and they're looking for attention, and
if we don't give it to them, then the traps
that are waiting out in the streets will lure them
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in the position to get the attention that they want,
but they'll end up dead in jail. Bro, I'm talking
about guys are out here dying from posts that they're
making on Instagram, certain posts that they this one brother,
bTB Savage. Yeah, bTB, that's a bad situation, my brother.
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And don't get me wrong, you know, my condolences go
out to his family because they had nothing to do
with this. But I don't know that it was a
wise thing to do to make the Instagram post that
he made in the blood of somebody who he just
killed in self defense that may have cost him his life.
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That's the point that I'm making.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
The thing is that he had already won. Like, any
time you defend yourself successfully, you're gonna get praised, right
because there's a lot of bullies in our society, a
lot of people who take advantage of others, people getting
guns stuck in their faces every day. So people were
on his side because they can empathize with that. Now
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he had a right to defend himself, yes, against someone
who was attacking him that right. Where he lost that
where he takes the l is when he takes it
too far and starts to brag about it. One thing
that I don't do is brag about winning after I win.
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If I beat somebody, I don't have to brag. I
already want everybody know. I want you know I beat you.
I've seen people get killed in dice games, bragging, card games,
bragging after basketball games, bragging. When you beat somebody, they're
already humiliated, right, So if you've already done, you've already
done something to their spirit and you know it, they
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know it. If you had an audience, the audience knows it, right,
So I just leave it at that and keep it moving.
But if you go to like antagonizing somebody after you've
just defeated them and they're already upset. You could trigger
something in them that is.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
The push them over the edge.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
You could push them over the edge, and it could,
it could. It could entice them to want to do
something bad to you, like it can entice him to
want to take your life. And this youngster after, you know,
his girl is the one that actually squeezed the trigger.
You know, she's the one who actually killed the dude,
is right, Yeah, but he had a struggle with the
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guy and he was telling her to shoot him. This
is his words. So after the murder, you fast forward
a couple months later or so, he's in Houston. He
posts a photograph standing in the dry blood of the
guy he killed. He went back to the scene, not
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two months later, but obviously this was probably the same
day or whatever. He went back to the scene of
the crime and took pictures of himself. So he saved
him and he posted him a couple of months later
on social media and standing in the blood of the
guy that he You know what.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
It reminded me of. It reminded me of that we
can't be stopped album cover was that was that we
can't be stopped after Bill shot himself in the eye.
That's yeah, that's we can't be stopped right and how
it was your idea, man, let's we need to take
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Let's take it right here. Yeah, just happened to be
in a hospital where Bill had inflicted his gunshot wound
on himself, took a photo, took a picture of the
album cover. I remember when that album cover came out
because the cover itself was so controversial, it made you
want to go get the album right now, comparing these
two situations, because nobody killed, nobody, nobody was bragging about,
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you know, but I'm thinking that, first of all, why
would you take a photo like that? Why would you
take a photo like that? If I had to kill
someone in self defense, the last thing you would see
me do is take a photo in that person's dry blood.
Now now, And I'm not eating rest in peace or
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however y'all say it to be TV Savage. I'm not
even disparaging the brother. But what I'm saying is that's
something in the water, that's something in the culture that
made him think that number one, taking the photo would
be advantageous to his career, because that's what I think
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it has something to do with men. Let me get
that photo real quick.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
It's all about and posting the photo.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
This might accelerate the sale of my music. This may accelerate.
But you putting yourself on death's highway for what, brother?
The attention, the money ain't even worth it. And I
think that that's what we have to take a step
back and look at, just not the fact that he
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took the picture and posted the picture, but why he
did it. Who are you trying to impress?
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Like?
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Where where does where does this? Where does doing this
move you forward in your career?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Man?
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Unfortunately, this kind of madness is celebrated in certain aspects
of our culture. Yes, you kill somebody's op, you go
take a picture by the grave. You know there was
a time, brother, that even in the heat of the
most you know, aggressive battle rap, you didn't disrespect the dead.
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But I think but it ain't. It ain't got nothing
to do with the dead. You're taunting his homies because
you believe that this is what's going to get you attention.
And it's sad to say that certain elements of the
music industry according this kind of thing. And I believe
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this is how a lot of these youngsters feel like
they could get recorded. Did you know by putting this
kind of content out, that's true because it attracts attention
to their music and to their PERSONA.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Got a boys reloaded podcasts will be right back after
this week.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
You know, I was a very reckless young man, as
you know my bed witness. But it wasn't until I
actually decided that I wanted to live that I started
protecting myself better so that I could have a future.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Do you remember at at what moment, like what happened?
Was it particular incident that they say, you know, I
want to live.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I saw people getting killed my age. Yeah, I was
seeing them getting murdered. It's like and I saw a
lot of things, simple things like you get into a
fight at a basketball court. You leave, You allowed the
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guy to leave, You beat him up, you allow him
to leave, You continue to play basketball. He comes back, boo, boom,
gun you down. I see a guy calls another guy's
sister the B word. She goes to get her brother.
Brother comes back with a shotgun, blows his head off.
I see guys getting into a fight over a parking space.
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Guy puts a gun out, boom, Another guy bullying a guy.
This is he This is when we're like teenagers, like sixteen.
This guy's a bully. So we're at the skating rink
and he cuts in on the guy slow dragon his girl. Now,
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this guy had done this a hundred times, just bullying.
Guys just go in while you dance with your girl.
They just get right in front of her, you know,
and push you out the way and start dancing. And
he had buddies around him. If you tried to fight,
they just jump you. So they go outside and dude
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goes to his car to get to get his gun.
Guy follows him out. What you're gonna do, what you're
gonna do, You're gonna shoot me, what you're gonna do,
You're gonna do? Boom boom, boom, boom boom. Put him
on the front porch at his mama house. You see.
So I've seen almost damn near any kind of scenario.
You can get caught up in some foolishness and get
your life taken. And I was just like, so I
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used all of those experiences and I just started moving
in a different way. I don't think that experience is
the best teacher. I think that other people's experience is
the best teacher.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
That's real.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
So I mean, if if you go around that corner
and come back bleeding profusely and you say, will don't
go around that corner, they just I just got stabbed.
They stabbed it. Do it out there, got a machete.
He stab at everybody. And I take my dumb ass
around the corner anyway and get stabbed. You know, does
that make sense? No, I'm gonna say, Okay, I take
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your word. You bleeding, I see blood. You just came
around that corner. Bleed, dude, wild in a machete. You
know what, Let me make sure I don't go around
that corner. That's me. So I just I just picked up.
And I still made a few mistakes along the way,
but I was able to greatly reduce my chances of
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checking out early by just being observant and love it
on myself. See, once I learned to love myself, I
actually started learning to love other people, like really love.
And I understood that love ain't just me helping you fight.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Love ain't me that's at Love, ain't just me.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Helping you go shoot up the block or shoot some dudes.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Love is me telling you it ain't worth it, right,
And and that's as loyalty.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yeah, love is telling me, is me telling you it
ain't worth it, homie. Love is me seeing the situation
and being able to say, say, bro, man, them dudes
is crash dumbis man? Let them crash into somebody else.
Don't throw your life away with a food you know
and ain't got nothing to do but being afraid. But
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you do have to pick your battles. So a friend,
a true friend, would taking consideration what would happen in
the event of your demise and your parents, your siblings,
the people who love you, your children, your wife, what would
happen to them if you were if you were murdered?
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And on my watch. So when I look at you,
I don't just look at Derek. I see your daughter,
I see your wife, I see your mother. Yes, sir,
people that I know that love you. Yeah, so I'm
going to protect you, Yes, sir, that's love to me.
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But see, when you're growing up a lot of times,
when you grow up in certain environments, you learn everything
that's right is wrong and what's wrong is right.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Right, And that's also loyalty. Will you know, among the
street organizations, loyalty is very important. I was speaking to
a group of boys out in Miami last week, and
I was telling them that there is a difference between
loyalty and being disloyal to yourself. You know, if somebody
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comes up to you and say, hey, in order for
us to accept you into the gang, then you're gonna
have to show your loyalty by robbing that convenience store
and popping the store onwer on your way out. If
you want to be a part of this gang, well
they're telling you they want you to be loyal to them,
but at the cost of you being disloyal to yourself.
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So that's why it's key that which you said, I
learned to love myself, then I learn the love of
the people. It's the same with loyalty. You got to
be loyal to yourself. You got to be loyal to
your gifts, your talents. You got to be loyal to
your life and the plans that you have set for yourself.
And let me tell you something, if you are a
black male in America and you do not have a plan,
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then you have a problem. You should be able to
go up to every young black male in America. I
don't give a damn. If you're ten years old, you
ask him what you want to be in life, what
you want to do in life, where you're going. He
needs to be able to tell you, because if he's
not able to tell you, we know that somebody got
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a plan for him once he's once he If he
tell you he don't have no plan, then you need
to sit down with him and help him map out
of plan based on his skills, his gifts, his talents,
and his interests. The earlier you catch them, the greater
of opportunity. You have to not just save them, but
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set them on a course for success. You know, and
we can't shy away from those who have already quote
unquote gone astray. In my in my book New Rules,
I write a chapter about how we need to repurpose gangs.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Yeah, stee the cover.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
New Rules, New Rules. Yes sir, Yes sir, yes sir.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
We got we got a good. Do we get this?
We captured that good? We got it.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
On page twelve we talk about repurposing gangs, and I
tell the story of the wolves in Yellowstone Park. You know,
wolves are predators by nature, and there were too many
of them in Yellowstone Park, so they got rid of
all of the wolves. But when they got rid of
the wolves, the deer came and took over. The deer
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started eating up all the vegetation. When they ate up
all the vegetation, the trees stopped growing, the rivers started
drying up, and people didn't want to go to the
park anymore. So what they did is they allowed a
few of the wolves back into Yellowstone Park. Yeah, they
killed a couple of deer, but it ran them away.
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Next thing, you know, the vegetation, vegetation started growing back.
When the vegetation started growing back, the trees grew taller
than they'd ever grown before. The rivers started running again.
They were all cleaned up, and barry started growing from
the trees. So now bears were coming to pick the
berries off the trees, and rabbits were coming and running around.
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And what happened is instead of just getting rid of
the wolves, they just repurposed them. When you look at
the original purpose for black so called gangs, the original
plan was to protect the community against white supremacist gangs. Right,
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that was the original purpose. But the politics of crack cocaine,
the politics of mass incarceration, the politics of them you know,
taking foreign agents out of Russia and dropping them into
the hood as agents among the gangs to turn the
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gangs against one another. You know, the past three four
decades of gang warfare has been ridiculously the multuus to
black life and black men. So we have to look
at how or why the gangs were originally started and
repurpose them back so that the goal is to build
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the community and not destroy the community. The government puts
billions of dollars a year into the eradication of gangs,
and they may as well turn that money into toilet
paper and wipe their behinds with it, because gangs ain't
going nowhere. It's if hip hop is fifty years old,
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gangs are older than hip hop. And as long as
the government creates the conditions, the family conditions, the community
conditions that would make these youngsters want to join gangs,
that will always be gangs. But they have to be
reorganized and they have to be repurposed and bring them
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back to their original agenda, and that is the protection
of the black community, the protection of black women, the
protection of black children, the protection of our elders, and
the organizing of us as black men to be the
defenders of our agenda.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
How do you repurpose these law enforcement gangs. That's a
very good question, you know, because they are a gang.
I saw something in Kansas City, a woman by the
name of Monicia Smith. She is suing the Kansas City
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Police Department for illegal searching, illegal search and death. They
broke into the woman's house. They kicked the door in
with a warrant and stole twenty thousand dollars. So the
backstory is Monica Monicia wakes up in the middle of
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the night to a knock on her door. She looks
out the people sees somebody who appears to be shot.
Afraid for a life, she doesn't open the door. She
gets contacted by an officer who tells her I'll be
by to pick up the video. She spooked because she
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has in the back of her mind all of these
police killings of black people, specifically black men, So she
don't open the door rightfully, sore rightfully. So so they
decide that, you know what, we're going to come in
and get it. So a couple of days later they
go in, they kick her door down, and she I
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guess she gets she gets alerted some type of way
that they're at our house. She speeds over to her house,
jumps out the car with her daughter, and they start
calling them all kinds of names, make them, they draw
down on them, make them put their hands up. She
fully cooperates. She allows them to take DNA samples, uh
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do blood testing that was from the blood that was
on the door. And then she goes back in the
house and she realizes how money is gone. She immediately
contacts them and say, hey, man, you know y'all, you
know came in here, took my money. Of course, they
played dumb, so she had to escalate it, and eventually
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she ends up filing a lawsuit and telling her story
and putting them on blasts. But this is something that
has been going on for a while in the US.
There's a big uptick in police stealing money in merchandise
from the citizens of America. They're they're pulling people over
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in their cars, They're stealing money from people, take illegally
searching people, stealing their money, and they're kicking in doors
with bogus warrants, breaking into people's homes and stealing their
money and their merchandise, taking whatever they want. I just
saw some group, another group of officers who who inadvertently
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captured themselves on video stealing money from a person that
they identified as a suspect. They were at this person's
house and they're going through the closet, taking money out
the purse, taking money out of clothes, and just stealing,
just going in. It's like the whole idea to go
in here is not to oh so that we can
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secure justice. The idea is to go in here and
steal people's stuff.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
Yeah, yes, sir. There was a Kool Klux Klan grand
dragging by the name of JB. Stoner, and back in
the sixth he made a statement. He said, sooner or later,
he said, very soon, you won't see Ku Klux clan
members wearing white and white hoods and white sheets. He said,
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we'll be wearing police uniforms. We'll be wearing firemen uniforms.
This will be the new uniform for many of our members.
And so there was a concerted effort for white supremacists
to infiltrate these police departments. You asked the question, how
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do we repurpose these police gangs. You cannot repurpose them
because to re means to do again. To repurpose means
to bring them back to their original purpose. Their original
purpose was slave catching. See, I don't care what anybody
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tells you. The job of the police departments in America
are to make certain that what happens in black and
poor neighborhoods does not spill over into what happens into
rich neighborhoods and white neighborhoods. That's the purpose of the
police departments, and whatever happens within that context is free games,
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fair game. But I agree with you. You know, even
after the George Floyd marches in the whole era, the
whole George Floyd that was literally might as what we
call it the George Floyd era, you would think that
these police officers would be more careful, or that they
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would take a step back because they don't want to
see America go up and smoke again. It appears they
have gotten worse, and as time goes on, they're gonna
get worse. Which is one of the reason is that
we have to repurpose street organizations and that black men
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like myself and yourself, we have to be serious about
the business of organizing these young men so that we
can police and patrol our own neighborhoods. I don't think
that there's any other way for us to get justice,
because I think it was it was W. E. B. D.
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Boys said that you cannot expect to get justice from
a system that was not set up to give you
that in the first place. So when I see good
police work, I'm surprised. When I see that gang activity
what they call the Blue klucks Klan, I'm not surprised,
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dear brother, because if you study the history of policing
in the United States of America, we have always been
the targets.
Speaker 3 (44:58):
Always Little boys reloaded podcasts will be right back after
the break.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Did you see the video of the police officers who
apparently gunned down the guy who robbed didn't rob the bank,
but shot up the bank the employee. The bank employee
shot up the bank.
Speaker 4 (45:25):
No, sir, I didn't see that. You didn't see that, no, sir.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Well, in any event, I'm on one of those pro
cop farms checking them out, and they're like just all
of the oh, praise you know, you know how you
go all praise, all praise la la the law, right,
they just praising good cops. This is why cops are
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heroes and cops and cops. This happened in Louisville. This
is Louisville Metropolitan Police Department. These are the same people
who killed Breonna Taylor, right, and they're just all praise,
all praises. I went in there like a troll and
through the monkey rich and I threw the grenade and
turned my back. I say, is this the same Uh?
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Is this the same police department that killed Breonna Taylor?
And they were mad? Yeah, get get Like, what all
it takes is like one act of bravery right for them,
and then they're coming for the next thousand infractions.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
Right.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
I say, this is why we need cops because of
these type of situations. Well, these type of situations don't
happen often enough to justify police officers overreach. You see, like,
these type of things don't happen often. But what does
happen often is police stretching their authority, beating up people, stealing, robbing.
Speaker 4 (46:53):
Killing, rapist and not being held to count not being
held accountable. Right, And it's the lack of accountability. It's
the lack of accountability that creates them us that us
versus them mentality When it comes to black people in America,
it is a justifiable mentality. It's the same with the
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health industry. There's a doctor by the name of j.
Marion Sims, and he has been championed as the father
of gynecology. So if you send your children to medical school,
you have to study the research and the science from
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Jay Marion Sims. I think I'm saying his name right.
There's a statue of him in Central Park that just
got removed in twenty eighteen because when they studied his history,
they studied that he learned what he learned about gynecology
from his research experimentation on black women. And what he
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would do is he would perform surgical procedures on black
women with no anesthesia, with no anesthesia because the belief
was that black women were more prone to be able
to take the pain. Then he'd take what he learned
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and turn around and perform the same procedures on white
women with anesthesia.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
Right.
Speaker 4 (48:33):
But he went down in history as a champion in
the medical industry. And you wonder why black women and
black men are a little reticent when it's time to
go to the hospital, because it's just another system in
America that was built on the pain and suffering of
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black people. It's the same with the police departments in America.
So right now we have to redefine what it means
to be pro black. You know, back in the sixties,
if you wanted integration, they might have said, oh, you
will pro black. Or in the seventies, if you were
with the Black Power movement, they would say, hey, you know,
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you're pro black. Or if you pushed for black people
to be able to go white universities, that was considered
pro black. Or even if you thought that someday we
should have a black president and we've had that, that
may have been considered pro black. I heard this brother
one time say that success is a moving target. He said,
(49:37):
when you're two years old, success is getting through the
night with our peing and to be right, you turn fifteen,
success is having a girlfriend. You turn twenty two, successes
you know, paying off your first call. Thirty years old,
success is behind your first house. You know, fifty five
years old, success is having your first grandchild. Then you
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get older, you get to be eighty ninety years old.
Next thing, you know, success again is getting through the
night without peeing in the bed. It's like a moving target.
It comes full circle. Well, I believe that being pro
black is a moving target, and what it means to
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be pro black today may be different from what it
meant fifty years ago. See, we're not just charged with
fighting for what our ancestors fought for. God damn it,
we should be fighting for more. So if you're not
talking independence, then you're not talking pro black. If you're
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not talking ownership, you're not speaking pro black. If you're
not talking about us organizing ourselves to patrol our own
communities and not dependent on the police to handle situations
like the one that happened with what's my sister's name? Me, shit,
the sister in Louisville. No, not Brianna, the other sister
(51:05):
we were just talking about.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
But but oh.
Speaker 4 (51:10):
Sister Monica. Yeah, we could have handled that situation, you know,
in a way to where it brought her justice. So
independence is the new pro black, And if that's not
what we're talking about, then we got to change the
frequency of the conversation.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
I'll ride with independence being the pro new pro black,
But I also ride with self love is just black, period.
Like I think that I think that anybody, no matter
if you're black, every single person that's black, should be
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pro black, because to be pro black it is to
mean that you love yourself. Yes, sir, and I think
that every single person that's white should be pro white.
Every single person that's Mexican should be pro Mexican, Asian whatever.
You know what I'm saying. I think that's just a
person that love and said I think that you are
that should That should be a GIMMI everybody.
Speaker 4 (52:09):
Yeah, I think it starts. I think it starts right there.
I agree with you, it starts with self love. But
before you can really have self love, you have to
have self knowledge because it's difficult to love yourself if
you don't know yourself. And knowing yourself means knowing your
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history as well, because those who don't know what was
don't understand what is, and they will never be prepared
for what will be. So I agree, brother, when you
love yourself, then you respect yourself. When you respect yourself,
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then you are most likely to respect your brother. And
when you respect your brother, you are less likely to
want to kill your brother. Why because who is your brother?
Your brother is your other self. So when you look
in the mirror and see somebody that you hate, when
you see someone who is a reflection of you who
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looks like you. It's easier for you to hate that
brother if you hate yourself. And if it's easy for
you to hate that brother, then you could very well
hurt that brother or kill that brother. But I agree,
bro at all starts with self love, and that's something
that we still have to be taught in twenty twenty three.
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Because see, when you look at the definition of white supremacy,
white supremacy represents the preservation of all things white over
all things none white. Okay, you cannot have white supremacy
with out black inferiority. You can't have one without the other.
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Black inferiority is the oxygen to white supremacy. That means,
in order for me to believe that a Caucasian or
European person is inherently better than I am, somebody has
already had to trick me into believing that I was
born less than And when we operate with this black
(54:28):
inferiority complex, it creates a dynamic among us where it's
very easy for us to disrespect each other. You know,
like respect and my humble opinion is a universal currency.
Where you get it where you give it. You should
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be able to receive it. But the most powerful form
of respect that an individual can have is respect for himself.
Once you have respect for yourself, then it goes back
to respect, you know, for your own right. Recently, a
nonprofit by the name of I should be ashamed of myself.
(55:15):
I forget the name of this organization, but they gave me.
I should have just left it at another profit. They
gave me an award, a Community Leadership Award, and it
was very beautiful. I appreciate it. And when I got
the award, in my award speech, I said that I
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was always taught that the greatest award that you could
be given is not an Academy award, a Grammy, or
an Emmy, but the greatest honor is to be honored
by your own That's the greatest honor. And when we
see it from that perspective, then the respect of month
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US bills. But I think it goes back to self love.
My brother, I agree.
Speaker 2 (56:07):
Did you see this guy, Mark Taylor, the coach, Yeah, yeah,
this guy went to at Last.
Speaker 4 (56:14):
I saw it this morning, made.
Speaker 2 (56:16):
A video where he just totally just clown talking about
black people everywhere he was. He was saying, Atlanta, what
he used to Atlanta ain't what it used to be.
They can have it, they can have it. You go
to But he said, you're going the restaurants and the blacks.
They're in the cards, in the cards, they're black. And
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then he threatened to hang this black lady who he
thought that might try to cut him off. Did you
see that part?
Speaker 4 (56:46):
I saw that part. I saw it. I saw it
on your page.
Speaker 2 (56:49):
Yeah, this guy, Mark Taylor is an uncivilized mutt, and
he needs to be brought to heel. I'm pretty sure
that whatever contracts that he had pending or whatever deals
he had going on right now, he's those are all coming.
They're tumbling down, and people are distancing themselves from because
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he was cool with Nick Saban over at Alabama. That's
you know. I seen him on pitches with him, and
this guy was celebrating, you know, his achievements in coaching football.
This guy coaches college players, He coaches high school players
to become college players, and college players become pro players.
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And over eighty percent of his clientele are black. Eighty
percent of his customers, over eighty percent of his customers
are black, right, so it's like they don't mind making
money off of us, but they will still have this
type of energy like and you wonder where did where
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does this come from? Like like what did people do
to you? Like, here's the thing about me. If I
don't like you, we can't make no money together. You
can't make no money off mind, name, likeness, image, right, brand, contacts, nothing,
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even if it means that I'm not going to make money.
If I don't like you, we can't get no money together.
But that goes to show you how unprincipled they are.
They could be like I hate him, I hate him,
I hate him, I hate him, but I deal with
him and laugh and hug hug him and kicking he
he ha ha, as long as I'm getting paid. But
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an uncivilized mut has no principles. An uncivilized mutt will
kill his own mama for some money. He'll kill his
own children for some money. He'll kill himself for some money.
Mark Taylor is an uncivilized mut. Sir, where did they
come from, Derek, Brother? They come from America. They come
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from America. And you have to remember, my brother, the
chief reason, the chief agenda for bringing our forefathers to America.
We didn't come here as slaves. We had to be enslaved.
We came here as educated, civilized human beings who were
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builders of civilization, but they brought us here to be
made merchandise and uncivilized MutS. Look to use your words
like Mark Taylor, still have that mindset that I can
(59:52):
stomach the presence of black people as long as their
presence equals a profit for me. You gotta understand that
the big house where the master live, that it was
right there on the plantation with the rest of black folks.
And as much as they hated us, they stomached our
presence because it was our labor that.
Speaker 4 (01:00:15):
Made them rich. But what came to mind when I
saw that video, brother, is how many of these other
redneck coaches think just like him, but would never ever
be caught expressing it on a video like that. Like
(01:00:36):
when Donald Trump was president and everyone was in the
uproar and in such you know, fury that you had
someone of his ilk in the White House. You know,
everybody was just upside down about it. What you think
about Donald Trump? What you think about Donald Trump. Let
me tell you something. I'm not worried about Donald Trump.
(01:01:00):
I'm more concerned about the Donald Trump minded joker that's
in the line behind me at the at Starbucks or wherever,
or black on coffee shop. Right, well, if I'm at
the grocery store, they're everywhere. Brother, Donald Trump didn't get
to the White House by himself. Somebody had to vote
(01:01:22):
for him.
Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Vote.
Speaker 4 (01:01:25):
So there's eighty million of them running around here. I'm
not worried about the one that's on TV.
Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Who ain't gonna bust a great pushing nothing then save it.
Speaker 4 (01:01:35):
My concern is the ones that are teaching my children
at these universities, coaching our sons on these football fields,
making our food. Not that they make the food, but
they don't actually prepare it. But when you go to
their restaurants and they they they're serving you. Bro, you
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you just so when I saw the video of Mark Taylor,
I just said to myself, man, I wonder how many
more of these are running around? And this thought crossed
my mind, brother, and I hope it doesn't happen. I
just hope that some you know, paarent of a black
(01:02:21):
athlete doesn't come out into the public and say, we
been knowing mister Taylor all our life. He done nothing
but good for my family. He gave my sons hot
dogs every week. I just hope and pray that nobody
(01:02:41):
is ignorant enough to come out and defend this blatant
overt And it's not just racism, bro, this is pure
hatred for black people that this man is expressing. But
think of the hundreds of families that put their black
(01:03:03):
boys in his hands. For years, this man been thinking.
Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
Like this man, with everything that black people have done
for this country, everybody in this country that benefits should
be kissing our ass. That's right. I said it. I
said it. America ain't America. America don't have its richest
America don't have this economic superpower position. With our black people,
(01:03:32):
we put America in the position that is in to
be a world superpower. Black people, y'all should be kissing
our ass instead of hating on us, instead of waking
up every day mad. But I know why they mad
because they can't get the free labor no more. That's
why they mad. But still okay, at some point the
teacher must be at some point the student going to
(01:03:54):
become the teacher. Man, suck it up, butter Cup, we
ain't going back. Appreciate you, Derek Man. Appreciate you for
coming on the show. Ladies and gentlemen, dak Muhammad before
you go what you got coming up?
Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
Man?
Speaker 4 (01:04:06):
Go out and get my new book, it's called New Rules,
where we discussed some of the issues that we've discussed
here today. Truth trafficker dot Com is where you can
purchase the book. Buy a copy by two by three,
four five and give me your feedback. I'd like to
know what you think about the book, and that's it
New Rules, True traffic dot Com.
Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Or if you run an organization, you know, buy as
many books as you need and give it out to
each each member.
Speaker 4 (01:04:33):
Yes, sir absolutely, I like that, will yes sir, piece
and blessings absolutely.
Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
This episode was produced by a King and brought to
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my brother Derek.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Muhammad, piece of mild But how you doing, sir, hey man?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
How you doing man?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Thank you for having me, bro ladies and gentlemen. I
just want y'all to understand this. This, this, this is
one of the good guys. This guy is on the
front lines. He don't just talk it he walking and
everything else in between. This man on a daily basis,
fight for social justice, he fights against police brutality, he
(01:18):
fights for economic equality. I mean, the list goes on
and on and on. But one of your biggest, biggest,
I would say things that you champion is black male development. Yes, sir,
why is that so important to you?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Black male development is important to me because I don't
think that we as a people are going anywhere until
the black man puts himself in position to take the lead. Again,
I don't think that we as a people are going
anywhere unless we invest in the future of black people.
(02:00):
I tell people all the time. Right now, there is
a battle for currency supremacy. You've got China, You've got
Saudi Arabia, You've got Russia, South Africa. They're all gang
tackling the dollar. And the conversation is surrounding what should
we be investing in. Some people say put your money
in gold, others say put your money in land. Well,
(02:24):
the point that I want to make is that no
matter what we invest in, and I believe we should
invest wisely, our greatest investment is going to be the
investment that we make in our children and in the
next generation. And I believe too often the black mail
is left out of the conversation when it comes to
(02:46):
upw with mobility. When is the last time you had
or heard a presidential candidate come up with an agenda
for the black mail? You don't hear it. So black
mails may up about seven percent of the population in America,
but we get blamed for ninety percent of America's problems.
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So I think that we as black men have a
duty to place our focus on the development of black boys.
And this is the only way that we will survive
as a people. We must invest in the black male.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
And we got to do that as black people. We
got to do that because it's not in their best
interest to do that, because they would be fighting against
themselves because their goal is to make us look bad.
Their goal is to subjugate, to deny, to ridicule, to criticize,
to discriminate. That's their goal against us. So we have
(03:47):
to be intent on fighting that off, coming up with
initiatives to fight that off. And we have to understand
what we're up against, like, this is not by happenstance.
You know, this is by design, right, This is not happenstance.
This is designed. This is by design that there's never
an agenda for the black man. Oh, there's an agenda. Yeah,
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there's an agenda. There's an agenda right now to emasculate
black men, to see black men as effeminate. That is
an agenda. There is an agenda to make sure that
black men have to be reliant on his woman financially.
That is an agenda that the black man is kept
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out of the household. It's an agenda too. Every time
something happens, when black man goes out and do something reckless,
something forout, it is to make him look like he
is representative of all black males. So their overall plan is, Okay,
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we're going to hold our best up as an example
of who we are collectively, and we're gonna hold your
worst worst up as an example of who you are collectively.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Man.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
And until we see that, we're not gonna get it.
Because I see a lot of dummies on social media
all the time where black people can't do this. Well,
you know, we are worst enemies, you dumb bastards. You
got to be the dumber in a bag of rocks
to believe that. But there are people who believe in
and they think they're smart.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Yeah, and you're right, dear brother. There is an agenda
that is propaganda based, that paints the picture of the
black male as an endangered species, paints a picture of
the black male as be steal, animalistic, maniacal, and literally inhumane.
And as long as that propaganda not only affects how
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the world sees us, because that's not the most important part.
The most important part is how it affects the way
we see one another. And as long as we are
impacted by that propaganda, then we won't see black boys
as being worth investing in. We won't see black men
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as being worth investing in. So that's why the knowledge
of self is critical. See, our young boys have to
be taught who they are, whose they are, and where
they come from. One of the first things that I
was taught in the Nation of Islam is that the
black man is the original man, the maker, the owner,
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the cream of the planet Earth, god of the universe,
and the black man is Alpha and Omega. The question
is asked in our lessons, what is the birth record
of the Black nation? And the question is the Black
nation has no birth record, He has no beginning or ending.
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When you begin to teach a young black male that
his ancestry starts at the beginning of time, not in
fifteen fifty five when the first slave ship landed in Jamestown, Virginia.
It makes him to look at himself a little bit differently.
When you teach him that the Greek philosophy that they're
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taught in college is actually ancient Egyptian philosophy that represents
the stolen legacy of our people, it makes him to
look at himself a little bit differently. See, we think,
brother Will, that our young brothers are out in the
streets gang banging, hustling and being emotional and erratic and
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killing and stealing because they come from the projects and
they don't have anything. That's not true anymore.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Some of the most ridiculous cases that I'm getting a
coming from young brothers who live in the suburbs, who
sometimes both of them their parents make six figures. I'm
talking about a youngster, and this is a true story.
Youngster got killed at a pool party. I mean did
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in bad Will didn't walk right up on him in
broad daylight and shot him in the chest. So when
these cases come to my desk, I started doing a
little research looking on social media. So I'm looking at
the youngster that lost his life on his Instagram page.
You know, laid back. He got a stack of money
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in both hands, and he got an ar fifteen across
his lap. But what people don't know is he's doing
this in a five thousand square foot house. Brother, do
you know that some of these young brothers are ashamed
that their parents made it out of the hood because
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it don't sound cool when somebody asks you where you're
from and you say, oh, I'm from Parentland. You know,
the new neighbor hood that your parents moved in with
the five thousand square foot house. But our culture has
become as such to where we celebrate dysfunction. So a
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lot of my partners, their sons don't want to be
like the good guy that they are today. That rather
be like who they used to be because that is, unfortunately,
what is celebrated within the culture. So I'm teaching our
young brothers every opportunity that I get, you know, don't
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become a crash dummy out here trying to find an identity. See,
if you don't give that young black male and identity,
the streets will give him one and they'll turn him
into a crash dummy. In the process. But I think
it's very very sad. Bro. So many of our brothers
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who came up with us, they fought very hard. Some
of them had to go do time, come home and
get it together to put that family in a better position.
But because their sons, they feel like their life is
supposed to look just like NBA young boys or little babies,
and if their appears to be a little bit different,
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they'll actually be ashamed of that, some of them.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Man, you said a mouthful, You said a mouthful. I
don't understand it. Look, I'm from the hood, man, and
that's just that's my story, right, But I wish I
was not from the hood. Now. Some people would say, well, damn,
will you know if you wasn't from the hood, you
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wouldn't be who you are today. You're right, I probably
would be better than I am today. You see, that's
the part that we don't get, you know, you don't
I know Black people that will say, well, we did it.
It was good enough for us. We walked to school,
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we wore tennis shoes with them, you know. We we
went without eating, or we didn't have three meals a day,
We didn't all this type of stuff. But the idea
is for you to put your kids in a position
where they can be better than you, where they can
have better access, better options. This is why I appreciate
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people like ice Cube so much, who put his who
set up his son Osha Jr. To be able to
have better access than he had. Some people who ain't
ever had ship frowns on that. People that have always
had it understands that, you know, I'm doing this shit
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so you ain't got to go through what I went through.
This is why I'm doing it. This is why t
I was so frustrated with his son, you know, King,
you know, going out there acting reckless and saying, look, man,
I made this shit easy for you. Man, I did it,
so you ain't.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Got to do it. But it's something that we have
to correct within the culture that says that in order
for a black male to get his full respect, he
has to have been tainted at some point. He has
to have been a street guy. He had to have,
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you know, dipped down into the lowest depths of hell,
walked on the edge of a cliff between you know,
Hell and Heaven. You know, you don't have to go
through what some of us went through. In order to
be successful. But if the culture is saying you gotta
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be like Willie d meaning used to be poor, used
to be a robber, used to bus his gun, used
to do this and that, and this is all documented,
been to prison, and now he is a mogul. Okay,
but what if you what if you didn't go through
the used to part be part? What if you never
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went to jail, if you never made f's on your
report card, what if you never dropped out of school? Okay?
Do we still give the black mail that same respect
whose parents opened up those doors for him, we should,
especially if he took what his parents were doing to
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the next level. If your son takes what you're doing
to the next level without going to the penitentiary, without
having you know, a gang tattoos all over his neck
or whatever, then I believe that he deserves the same
respect then the brother who picked hisself up out of
that lifestyle and built himself up into something better. But
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I feel like stories like the story of jay Z,
and this is not a knock at jay Z. You know,
come from the hood, used to sell dope, told a
thousand stories about how much dope he sold. Now the
brothers billionaire. My thing is a black male should be
able to reach Jay Z's level and get the same
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kind of respect even from the streets, without him having
had to go through that dangerous part of his life.
So to the young men who might be listening, bro,
it's cool if you make straight a's bro. It's cool
if you made it through school. It's cool. If you
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went to college and got a degree, get one that
you can use. It's cool. We all gonna make mistakes
in life. But your life does not have to look
just like NBA young boys in order for you to
be respected in the culture. And if people respect you
less because you walk the straight and narrow, then the
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hell with him.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Bro, do you Here's the thing, Dereck. The people who
put so much emphasis on a person having struggled or
being from the hood and ordered for him to be
legit or authentic, there's wrong with society anyway. They don't
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even count many of these people because look, they've picked
up and ran with the narrative, the propaganda that was
put out there for us. Right there are people who
create the propaganda, and they're the ones who say you
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have to be like this, this or that in order
to be accepted. And then you got the clowns, the
coconuts and the dummies who are brainwashed, who have what's
it called syndrome, what's it called Stockholm syndrome, who just
fall right in line with it, and they perpetuated. These
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people don't count. What I don't understand is why there's
so much emphasis on respecting their views, respecting their opinion.
They're not for us. Anybody who thinks like that, it's
not for us. So fuck damn and the harnts they
rode on. You see, that's the way I'm built like.
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They don't even count. It's like a It's like a troll, right,
I got a saying on Willie d Live our block trolls,
because trolls a hose. You see, a troll main objective
is to cause confusion. They go in and somebody can
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have a form where everybody's all positive energy, everything is great,
it's just a beautiful conversation, and they'll just jump in
and throw a monkey wrench in and just basically just
throw a grenade and then walk off. They don't care
what happens after that, whether you fall for it or don't,
They don't care. But if you if you do far forward,
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they actually care more, but it doesn't matter to them.
Their trolls and their goal is never to be progressive.
Their goal is never to add to society, to be
of use to society. Their goal is to be the
nothing that they are, nothing, the nothing that they are,
So they don't count. This is why I disrespect them
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so emphatically. They don't count. So we shouldn't put such
an emphasis on these type of people who really don't
count in the first place.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
I think the way to combat that is. You know,
there's a saying right now that attention is the new drug.
I would go further than that and say that attention
is the new oxygen for a lot of these youngsters.
They live it, they breathe it, and seeing a lot
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of them, they'll put themselves in death's highway just to
get attention. You know, the reason that a lot of
black boys want to be football players is because that's
who gets all the attention in the household. If the
family sat around and watch chess tournaments on Sunday, they
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want to be chess players. It's not just about them
wanting to grow up and make money being an NFL
ball player. It goes back to the childhood in them
seeing who gets the attention, who gets the time, the
quality time from my parents. That's who I want to be,
That's what I want to be like. So what we
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have to do is we have to be we have
to be aggressive in our praise when these young boys
do something right. You know, we have to be more
aggressive in our praise than we are in our condemnation
of them when they do something wrong. So if they
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make all aids on their report card, we make a
big deal out of that. If you catch one of
them helping the elder take their groceries in next, we
make a big deal out of it. Because at the
end of the day, they all want to be celebrities.
And I have a saying, Bro, I say, every child
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should feel like a celebrity in their own household. Feel
like a celebrity in your own house, Bro, do you
know what that feels like. If you make your child
feel like a celebrity in their own household, then they're
less likely to go out into the streets and pull
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a crash dummy move to try to get attention to
be famous in the streets. So I think it, well,
I don't think I know it all starts in the household.
Coming up from the household, it extends, you know, to
the hood. So those of you who may be listening
who have sons, we have to make sure that we're
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letting our sons know how proud of them, that we
how proud of them we are of them when they
do something right, because that's really all they looking for, Bro,
They're looking for time, and they're looking for attention, and
if we don't give it to them, then the traps
that are waiting out in the streets will lure them
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in the position to get the attention that they want,
but they'll end up dead in jail. Bro, I'm talking
about guys are out here dying from posts that they're
making on Instagram, certain posts that they this one brother,
bTB Savage. Yeah, bTB, that's a bad situation, my brother.
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And don't get me wrong, you know, my condolences go
out to his family because they had nothing to do
with this. But I don't know that it was a
wise thing to do to make the Instagram post that
he made in the blood of somebody who he just
killed in self defense that may have cost him his life.
(21:24):
That's the point that I'm making.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
The thing is that he had already won. Like, any
time you defend yourself successfully, you're gonna get praised, right
because there's a lot of bullies in our society, a
lot of people who take advantage of others, people getting
guns stuck in their faces every day. So people were
on his side because they can empathize with that. Now
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he had a right to defend himself, yes, against someone
who was attacking him that right. Where he lost that
where he takes the l is when he takes it
too far and starts to brag about it. One thing
that I don't do is brag about winning after I win.
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If I beat somebody, I don't have to brag. I
already want everybody know. I want you know I beat you.
I've seen people get killed in dice games, bragging, card games,
bragging after basketball games, bragging. When you beat somebody, they're
already humiliated, right, So if you've already done, you've already
done something to their spirit and you know it, they
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know it. If you had an audience, the audience knows it, right,
So I just leave it at that and keep it moving.
But if you go to like antagonizing somebody after you've
just defeated them and they're already upset. You could trigger
something in them that is.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
The push them over the edge.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
You could push them over the edge, and it could,
it could. It could entice them to want to do
something bad to you, like it can entice him to
want to take your life. And this youngster after, you know,
his girl is the one that actually squeezed the trigger.
You know, she's the one who actually killed the dude,
is right, Yeah, but he had a struggle with the
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guy and he was telling her to shoot him. This
is his words. So after the murder, you fast forward
a couple months later or so, he's in Houston. He
posts a photograph standing in the dry blood of the
guy he killed. He went back to the scene, not
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two months later, but obviously this was probably the same
day or whatever. He went back to the scene of
the crime and took pictures of himself. So he saved
him and he posted him a couple of months later
on social media and standing in the blood of the
guy that he You know what.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
It reminded me of. It reminded me of that we
can't be stopped album cover was that was that we
can't be stopped after Bill shot himself in the eye.
That's yeah, that's we can't be stopped right and how
it was your idea, man, let's we need to take
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Let's take it right here. Yeah, just happened to be
in a hospital where Bill had inflicted his gunshot wound
on himself, took a photo, took a picture of the
album cover. I remember when that album cover came out
because the cover itself was so controversial, it made you
want to go get the album right now, comparing these
two situations, because nobody killed, nobody, nobody was bragging about,
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you know, but I'm thinking that, first of all, why
would you take a photo like that? Why would you
take a photo like that? If I had to kill
someone in self defense, the last thing you would see
me do is take a photo in that person's dry blood.
Now now, And I'm not eating rest in peace or
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however y'all say it to be TV Savage. I'm not
even disparaging the brother. But what I'm saying is that's
something in the water, that's something in the culture that
made him think that number one, taking the photo would
be advantageous to his career, because that's what I think
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it has something to do with men. Let me get
that photo real quick.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
It's all about and posting the photo.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
This might accelerate the sale of my music. This may accelerate.
But you putting yourself on death's highway for what, brother?
The attention, the money ain't even worth it. And I
think that that's what we have to take a step
back and look at, just not the fact that he
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took the picture and posted the picture, but why he
did it. Who are you trying to impress?
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Like?
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Where where does where does this? Where does doing this
move you forward in your career?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Man?
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Unfortunately, this kind of madness is celebrated in certain aspects
of our culture. Yes, you kill somebody's op, you go
take a picture by the grave. You know there was
a time, brother, that even in the heat of the
most you know, aggressive battle rap, you didn't disrespect the dead.
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But I think but it ain't. It ain't got nothing
to do with the dead. You're taunting his homies because
you believe that this is what's going to get you attention.
And it's sad to say that certain elements of the
music industry according this kind of thing. And I believe
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this is how a lot of these youngsters feel like
they could get recorded. Did you know by putting this
kind of content out, that's true because it attracts attention
to their music and to their PERSONA.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Got a boys reloaded podcasts will be right back after
this week.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
You know, I was a very reckless young man, as
you know my bed witness. But it wasn't until I
actually decided that I wanted to live that I started
protecting myself better so that I could have a future.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Do you remember at at what moment, like what happened?
Was it particular incident that they say, you know, I
want to live.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I saw people getting killed my age. Yeah, I was
seeing them getting murdered. It's like and I saw a
lot of things, simple things like you get into a
fight at a basketball court. You leave, You allowed the
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guy to leave, You beat him up, you allow him
to leave, You continue to play basketball. He comes back, boo, boom,
gun you down. I see a guy calls another guy's
sister the B word. She goes to get her brother.
Brother comes back with a shotgun, blows his head off.
I see guys getting into a fight over a parking space.
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Guy puts a gun out, boom, Another guy bullying a guy.
This is he This is when we're like teenagers, like sixteen.
This guy's a bully. So we're at the skating rink
and he cuts in on the guy slow dragon his girl. Now,
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this guy had done this a hundred times, just bullying.
Guys just go in while you dance with your girl.
They just get right in front of her, you know,
and push you out the way and start dancing. And
he had buddies around him. If you tried to fight,
they just jump you. So they go outside and dude
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goes to his car to get to get his gun.
Guy follows him out. What you're gonna do, what you're
gonna do, You're gonna shoot me, what you're gonna do,
You're gonna do? Boom boom, boom, boom boom. Put him
on the front porch at his mama house. You see.
So I've seen almost damn near any kind of scenario.
You can get caught up in some foolishness and get
your life taken. And I was just like, so I
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used all of those experiences and I just started moving
in a different way. I don't think that experience is
the best teacher. I think that other people's experience is
the best teacher.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
That's real.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
So I mean, if if you go around that corner
and come back bleeding profusely and you say, will don't
go around that corner, they just I just got stabbed.
They stabbed it. Do it out there, got a machete.
He stab at everybody. And I take my dumb ass
around the corner anyway and get stabbed. You know, does
that make sense? No, I'm gonna say, Okay, I take
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your word. You bleeding, I see blood. You just came
around that corner. Bleed, dude, wild in a machete. You
know what, Let me make sure I don't go around
that corner. That's me. So I just I just picked up.
And I still made a few mistakes along the way,
but I was able to greatly reduce my chances of
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checking out early by just being observant and love it
on myself. See, once I learned to love myself, I
actually started learning to love other people, like really love.
And I understood that love ain't just me helping you fight.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Love ain't me that's at Love, ain't just me.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Helping you go shoot up the block or shoot some dudes.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Love is me telling you it ain't worth it, right,
And and that's as loyalty.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yeah, love is telling me, is me telling you it
ain't worth it, homie. Love is me seeing the situation
and being able to say, say, bro, man, them dudes
is crash dumbis man? Let them crash into somebody else.
Don't throw your life away with a food you know
and ain't got nothing to do but being afraid. But
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you do have to pick your battles. So a friend,
a true friend, would taking consideration what would happen in
the event of your demise and your parents, your siblings,
the people who love you, your children, your wife, what would
happen to them if you were if you were murdered?
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And on my watch. So when I look at you,
I don't just look at Derek. I see your daughter,
I see your wife, I see your mother. Yes, sir,
people that I know that love you. Yeah, so I'm
going to protect you, Yes, sir, that's love to me.
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But see, when you're growing up a lot of times,
when you grow up in certain environments, you learn everything
that's right is wrong and what's wrong is right.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Right, And that's also loyalty. Will you know, among the
street organizations, loyalty is very important. I was speaking to
a group of boys out in Miami last week, and
I was telling them that there is a difference between
loyalty and being disloyal to yourself. You know, if somebody
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comes up to you and say, hey, in order for
us to accept you into the gang, then you're gonna
have to show your loyalty by robbing that convenience store
and popping the store onwer on your way out. If
you want to be a part of this gang, well
they're telling you they want you to be loyal to them,
but at the cost of you being disloyal to yourself.
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So that's why it's key that which you said, I
learned to love myself, then I learn the love of
the people. It's the same with loyalty. You got to
be loyal to yourself. You got to be loyal to
your gifts, your talents. You got to be loyal to
your life and the plans that you have set for yourself.
And let me tell you something, if you are a
black male in America and you do not have a plan,
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then you have a problem. You should be able to
go up to every young black male in America. I
don't give a damn. If you're ten years old, you
ask him what you want to be in life, what
you want to do in life, where you're going. He
needs to be able to tell you, because if he's
not able to tell you, we know that somebody got
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a plan for him once he's once he If he
tell you he don't have no plan, then you need
to sit down with him and help him map out
of plan based on his skills, his gifts, his talents,
and his interests. The earlier you catch them, the greater
of opportunity. You have to not just save them, but
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set them on a course for success. You know, and
we can't shy away from those who have already quote
unquote gone astray. In my in my book New Rules,
I write a chapter about how we need to repurpose gangs.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Yeah, stee the cover.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
New Rules, New Rules. Yes sir, Yes sir, yes sir.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
We got we got a good. Do we get this?
We captured that good? We got it.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
On page twelve we talk about repurposing gangs, and I
tell the story of the wolves in Yellowstone Park. You know,
wolves are predators by nature, and there were too many
of them in Yellowstone Park, so they got rid of
all of the wolves. But when they got rid of
the wolves, the deer came and took over. The deer
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started eating up all the vegetation. When they ate up
all the vegetation, the trees stopped growing, the rivers started
drying up, and people didn't want to go to the
park anymore. So what they did is they allowed a
few of the wolves back into Yellowstone Park. Yeah, they
killed a couple of deer, but it ran them away.
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Next thing, you know, the vegetation, vegetation started growing back.
When the vegetation started growing back, the trees grew taller
than they'd ever grown before. The rivers started running again.
They were all cleaned up, and barry started growing from
the trees. So now bears were coming to pick the
berries off the trees, and rabbits were coming and running around.
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And what happened is instead of just getting rid of
the wolves, they just repurposed them. When you look at
the original purpose for black so called gangs, the original
plan was to protect the community against white supremacist gangs. Right,
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that was the original purpose. But the politics of crack cocaine,
the politics of mass incarceration, the politics of them you know,
taking foreign agents out of Russia and dropping them into
the hood as agents among the gangs to turn the
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gangs against one another. You know, the past three four
decades of gang warfare has been ridiculously the multuus to
black life and black men. So we have to look
at how or why the gangs were originally started and
repurpose them back so that the goal is to build
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the community and not destroy the community. The government puts
billions of dollars a year into the eradication of gangs,
and they may as well turn that money into toilet
paper and wipe their behinds with it, because gangs ain't
going nowhere. It's if hip hop is fifty years old,
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gangs are older than hip hop. And as long as
the government creates the conditions, the family conditions, the community
conditions that would make these youngsters want to join gangs,
that will always be gangs. But they have to be
reorganized and they have to be repurposed and bring them
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back to their original agenda, and that is the protection
of the black community, the protection of black women, the
protection of black children, the protection of our elders, and
the organizing of us as black men to be the
defenders of our agenda.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
How do you repurpose these law enforcement gangs. That's a
very good question, you know, because they are a gang.
I saw something in Kansas City, a woman by the
name of Monicia Smith. She is suing the Kansas City
(38:38):
Police Department for illegal searching, illegal search and death. They
broke into the woman's house. They kicked the door in
with a warrant and stole twenty thousand dollars. So the
backstory is Monica Monicia wakes up in the middle of
(39:02):
the night to a knock on her door. She looks
out the people sees somebody who appears to be shot.
Afraid for a life, she doesn't open the door. She
gets contacted by an officer who tells her I'll be
by to pick up the video. She spooked because she
(39:23):
has in the back of her mind all of these
police killings of black people, specifically black men, So she
don't open the door rightfully, sore rightfully. So so they
decide that, you know what, we're going to come in
and get it. So a couple of days later they
go in, they kick her door down, and she I
(39:46):
guess she gets she gets alerted some type of way
that they're at our house. She speeds over to her house,
jumps out the car with her daughter, and they start
calling them all kinds of names, make them, they draw
down on them, make them put their hands up. She
fully cooperates. She allows them to take DNA samples, uh
(40:08):
do blood testing that was from the blood that was
on the door. And then she goes back in the
house and she realizes how money is gone. She immediately
contacts them and say, hey, man, you know y'all, you
know came in here, took my money. Of course, they
played dumb, so she had to escalate it, and eventually
(40:32):
she ends up filing a lawsuit and telling her story
and putting them on blasts. But this is something that
has been going on for a while in the US.
There's a big uptick in police stealing money in merchandise
from the citizens of America. They're they're pulling people over
(40:57):
in their cars, They're stealing money from people, take illegally
searching people, stealing their money, and they're kicking in doors
with bogus warrants, breaking into people's homes and stealing their
money and their merchandise, taking whatever they want. I just
saw some group, another group of officers who who inadvertently
(41:23):
captured themselves on video stealing money from a person that
they identified as a suspect. They were at this person's
house and they're going through the closet, taking money out
the purse, taking money out of clothes, and just stealing,
just going in. It's like the whole idea to go
in here is not to oh so that we can
(41:46):
secure justice. The idea is to go in here and
steal people's stuff.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
Yeah, yes, sir. There was a Kool Klux Klan grand
dragging by the name of JB. Stoner, and back in
the sixth he made a statement. He said, sooner or later,
he said, very soon, you won't see Ku Klux clan
members wearing white and white hoods and white sheets. He said,
(42:14):
we'll be wearing police uniforms. We'll be wearing firemen uniforms.
This will be the new uniform for many of our members.
And so there was a concerted effort for white supremacists
to infiltrate these police departments. You asked the question, how
(42:36):
do we repurpose these police gangs. You cannot repurpose them
because to re means to do again. To repurpose means
to bring them back to their original purpose. Their original
purpose was slave catching. See, I don't care what anybody
(42:59):
tells you. The job of the police departments in America
are to make certain that what happens in black and
poor neighborhoods does not spill over into what happens into
rich neighborhoods and white neighborhoods. That's the purpose of the
police departments, and whatever happens within that context is free games,
(43:24):
fair game. But I agree with you. You know, even
after the George Floyd marches in the whole era, the
whole George Floyd that was literally might as what we
call it the George Floyd era, you would think that
these police officers would be more careful, or that they
(43:45):
would take a step back because they don't want to
see America go up and smoke again. It appears they
have gotten worse, and as time goes on, they're gonna
get worse. Which is one of the reason is that
we have to repurpose street organizations and that black men
(44:06):
like myself and yourself, we have to be serious about
the business of organizing these young men so that we
can police and patrol our own neighborhoods. I don't think
that there's any other way for us to get justice,
because I think it was it was W. E. B. D.
(44:27):
Boys said that you cannot expect to get justice from
a system that was not set up to give you
that in the first place. So when I see good
police work, I'm surprised. When I see that gang activity
what they call the Blue klucks Klan, I'm not surprised,
(44:48):
dear brother, because if you study the history of policing
in the United States of America, we have always been
the targets.
Speaker 3 (44:58):
Always Little boys reloaded podcasts will be right back after
the break.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Did you see the video of the police officers who
apparently gunned down the guy who robbed didn't rob the bank,
but shot up the bank the employee. The bank employee
shot up the bank.
Speaker 4 (45:25):
No, sir, I didn't see that. You didn't see that, no, sir.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Well, in any event, I'm on one of those pro
cop farms checking them out, and they're like just all
of the oh, praise you know, you know how you
go all praise, all praise la la the law, right,
they just praising good cops. This is why cops are
(45:49):
heroes and cops and cops. This happened in Louisville. This
is Louisville Metropolitan Police Department. These are the same people
who killed Breonna Taylor, right, and they're just all praise,
all praises. I went in there like a troll and
through the monkey rich and I threw the grenade and
turned my back. I say, is this the same Uh?
(46:10):
Is this the same police department that killed Breonna Taylor?
And they were mad? Yeah, get get Like, what all
it takes is like one act of bravery right for them,
and then they're coming for the next thousand infractions.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
Right.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
I say, this is why we need cops because of
these type of situations. Well, these type of situations don't
happen often enough to justify police officers overreach. You see, like,
these type of things don't happen often. But what does
happen often is police stretching their authority, beating up people, stealing, robbing.
Speaker 4 (46:53):
Killing, rapist and not being held to count not being
held accountable. Right, And it's the lack of accountability. It's
the lack of accountability that creates them us that us
versus them mentality When it comes to black people in America,
it is a justifiable mentality. It's the same with the
(47:16):
health industry. There's a doctor by the name of j.
Marion Sims, and he has been championed as the father
of gynecology. So if you send your children to medical school,
you have to study the research and the science from
(47:40):
Jay Marion Sims. I think I'm saying his name right.
There's a statue of him in Central Park that just
got removed in twenty eighteen because when they studied his history,
they studied that he learned what he learned about gynecology
from his research experimentation on black women. And what he
(48:03):
would do is he would perform surgical procedures on black
women with no anesthesia, with no anesthesia because the belief
was that black women were more prone to be able
to take the pain. Then he'd take what he learned
(48:24):
and turn around and perform the same procedures on white
women with anesthesia.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
Right.
Speaker 4 (48:33):
But he went down in history as a champion in
the medical industry. And you wonder why black women and
black men are a little reticent when it's time to
go to the hospital, because it's just another system in
America that was built on the pain and suffering of
(48:53):
black people. It's the same with the police departments in America.
So right now we have to redefine what it means
to be pro black. You know, back in the sixties,
if you wanted integration, they might have said, oh, you
will pro black. Or in the seventies, if you were
with the Black Power movement, they would say, hey, you know,
(49:15):
you're pro black. Or if you pushed for black people
to be able to go white universities, that was considered
pro black. Or even if you thought that someday we
should have a black president and we've had that, that
may have been considered pro black. I heard this brother
one time say that success is a moving target. He said,
(49:37):
when you're two years old, success is getting through the
night with our peing and to be right, you turn fifteen,
success is having a girlfriend. You turn twenty two, successes
you know, paying off your first call. Thirty years old,
success is behind your first house. You know, fifty five
years old, success is having your first grandchild. Then you
(50:00):
get older, you get to be eighty ninety years old.
Next thing, you know, success again is getting through the
night without peeing in the bed. It's like a moving target.
It comes full circle. Well, I believe that being pro
black is a moving target, and what it means to
(50:22):
be pro black today may be different from what it
meant fifty years ago. See, we're not just charged with
fighting for what our ancestors fought for. God damn it,
we should be fighting for more. So if you're not
talking independence, then you're not talking pro black. If you're
(50:43):
not talking ownership, you're not speaking pro black. If you're
not talking about us organizing ourselves to patrol our own
communities and not dependent on the police to handle situations
like the one that happened with what's my sister's name? Me, shit,
the sister in Louisville. No, not Brianna, the other sister
(51:05):
we were just talking about.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
But but oh.
Speaker 4 (51:10):
Sister Monica. Yeah, we could have handled that situation, you know,
in a way to where it brought her justice. So
independence is the new pro black, And if that's not
what we're talking about, then we got to change the
frequency of the conversation.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
I'll ride with independence being the pro new pro black,
But I also ride with self love is just black, period.
Like I think that I think that anybody, no matter
if you're black, every single person that's black, should be
(51:50):
pro black, because to be pro black it is to
mean that you love yourself. Yes, sir, and I think
that every single person that's white should be pro white.
Every single person that's Mexican should be pro Mexican, Asian whatever.
You know what I'm saying. I think that's just a
person that love and said I think that you are
that should That should be a GIMMI everybody.
Speaker 4 (52:09):
Yeah, I think it starts. I think it starts right there.
I agree with you, it starts with self love. But
before you can really have self love, you have to
have self knowledge because it's difficult to love yourself if
you don't know yourself. And knowing yourself means knowing your
(52:33):
history as well, because those who don't know what was
don't understand what is, and they will never be prepared
for what will be. So I agree, brother, when you
love yourself, then you respect yourself. When you respect yourself,
(52:54):
then you are most likely to respect your brother. And
when you respect your brother, you are less likely to
want to kill your brother. Why because who is your brother?
Your brother is your other self. So when you look
in the mirror and see somebody that you hate, when
you see someone who is a reflection of you who
(53:16):
looks like you. It's easier for you to hate that
brother if you hate yourself. And if it's easy for
you to hate that brother, then you could very well
hurt that brother or kill that brother. But I agree,
bro at all starts with self love, and that's something
that we still have to be taught in twenty twenty three.
(53:41):
Because see, when you look at the definition of white supremacy,
white supremacy represents the preservation of all things white over
all things none white. Okay, you cannot have white supremacy
with out black inferiority. You can't have one without the other.
(54:04):
Black inferiority is the oxygen to white supremacy. That means,
in order for me to believe that a Caucasian or
European person is inherently better than I am, somebody has
already had to trick me into believing that I was
born less than And when we operate with this black
(54:28):
inferiority complex, it creates a dynamic among us where it's
very easy for us to disrespect each other. You know,
like respect and my humble opinion is a universal currency.
Where you get it where you give it. You should
(54:49):
be able to receive it. But the most powerful form
of respect that an individual can have is respect for himself.
Once you have respect for yourself, then it goes back
to respect, you know, for your own right. Recently, a
nonprofit by the name of I should be ashamed of myself.
(55:15):
I forget the name of this organization, but they gave me.
I should have just left it at another profit. They
gave me an award, a Community Leadership Award, and it
was very beautiful. I appreciate it. And when I got
the award, in my award speech, I said that I
(55:38):
was always taught that the greatest award that you could
be given is not an Academy award, a Grammy, or
an Emmy, but the greatest honor is to be honored
by your own That's the greatest honor. And when we
see it from that perspective, then the respect of month
(56:00):
US bills. But I think it goes back to self love.
My brother, I agree.
Speaker 2 (56:07):
Did you see this guy, Mark Taylor, the coach, Yeah, yeah,
this guy went to at Last.
Speaker 4 (56:14):
I saw it this morning, made.
Speaker 2 (56:16):
A video where he just totally just clown talking about
black people everywhere he was. He was saying, Atlanta, what
he used to Atlanta ain't what it used to be.
They can have it, they can have it. You go
to But he said, you're going the restaurants and the blacks.
They're in the cards, in the cards, they're black. And
(56:38):
then he threatened to hang this black lady who he
thought that might try to cut him off. Did you
see that part?
Speaker 4 (56:46):
I saw that part. I saw it. I saw it
on your page.
Speaker 2 (56:49):
Yeah, this guy, Mark Taylor is an uncivilized mutt, and
he needs to be brought to heel. I'm pretty sure
that whatever contracts that he had pending or whatever deals
he had going on right now, he's those are all coming.
They're tumbling down, and people are distancing themselves from because
(57:10):
he was cool with Nick Saban over at Alabama. That's
you know. I seen him on pitches with him, and
this guy was celebrating, you know, his achievements in coaching football.
This guy coaches college players, He coaches high school players
to become college players, and college players become pro players.
(57:31):
And over eighty percent of his clientele are black. Eighty
percent of his customers, over eighty percent of his customers
are black, right, so it's like they don't mind making
money off of us, but they will still have this
type of energy like and you wonder where did where
(57:55):
does this come from? Like like what did people do
to you? Like, here's the thing about me. If I
don't like you, we can't make no money together. You
can't make no money off mind, name, likeness, image, right, brand, contacts, nothing,
(58:21):
even if it means that I'm not going to make money.
If I don't like you, we can't get no money together.
But that goes to show you how unprincipled they are.
They could be like I hate him, I hate him,
I hate him, I hate him, but I deal with
him and laugh and hug hug him and kicking he
he ha ha, as long as I'm getting paid. But
(58:43):
an uncivilized mut has no principles. An uncivilized mutt will
kill his own mama for some money. He'll kill his
own children for some money. He'll kill himself for some money.
Mark Taylor is an uncivilized mut. Sir, where did they
come from, Derek, Brother? They come from America. They come
(59:09):
from America. And you have to remember, my brother, the
chief reason, the chief agenda for bringing our forefathers to America.
We didn't come here as slaves. We had to be enslaved.
We came here as educated, civilized human beings who were
(59:32):
builders of civilization, but they brought us here to be
made merchandise and uncivilized MutS. Look to use your words
like Mark Taylor, still have that mindset that I can
(59:52):
stomach the presence of black people as long as their
presence equals a profit for me. You gotta understand that
the big house where the master live, that it was
right there on the plantation with the rest of black folks.
And as much as they hated us, they stomached our
presence because it was our labor that.
Speaker 4 (01:00:15):
Made them rich. But what came to mind when I
saw that video, brother, is how many of these other
redneck coaches think just like him, but would never ever
be caught expressing it on a video like that. Like
(01:00:36):
when Donald Trump was president and everyone was in the
uproar and in such you know, fury that you had
someone of his ilk in the White House. You know,
everybody was just upside down about it. What you think
about Donald Trump? What you think about Donald Trump. Let
me tell you something. I'm not worried about Donald Trump.
(01:01:00):
I'm more concerned about the Donald Trump minded joker that's
in the line behind me at the at Starbucks or wherever,
or black on coffee shop. Right, well, if I'm at
the grocery store, they're everywhere. Brother, Donald Trump didn't get
to the White House by himself. Somebody had to vote
(01:01:22):
for him.
Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Vote.
Speaker 4 (01:01:25):
So there's eighty million of them running around here. I'm
not worried about the one that's on TV.
Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Who ain't gonna bust a great pushing nothing then save it.
Speaker 4 (01:01:35):
My concern is the ones that are teaching my children
at these universities, coaching our sons on these football fields,
making our food. Not that they make the food, but
they don't actually prepare it. But when you go to
their restaurants and they they they're serving you. Bro, you
(01:01:59):
you just so when I saw the video of Mark Taylor,
I just said to myself, man, I wonder how many
more of these are running around? And this thought crossed
my mind, brother, and I hope it doesn't happen. I
just hope that some you know, paarent of a black
(01:02:21):
athlete doesn't come out into the public and say, we
been knowing mister Taylor all our life. He done nothing
but good for my family. He gave my sons hot
dogs every week. I just hope and pray that nobody
(01:02:41):
is ignorant enough to come out and defend this blatant
overt And it's not just racism, bro, this is pure
hatred for black people that this man is expressing. But
think of the hundreds of families that put their black
(01:03:03):
boys in his hands. For years, this man been thinking.
Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
Like this man, with everything that black people have done
for this country, everybody in this country that benefits should
be kissing our ass. That's right. I said it. I
said it. America ain't America. America don't have its richest
America don't have this economic superpower position. With our black people,
(01:03:32):
we put America in the position that is in to
be a world superpower. Black people, y'all should be kissing
our ass instead of hating on us, instead of waking
up every day mad. But I know why they mad
because they can't get the free labor no more. That's
why they mad. But still okay, at some point the
teacher must be at some point the student going to
(01:03:54):
become the teacher. Man, suck it up, butter Cup, we
ain't going back. Appreciate you, Derek Man. Appreciate you for
coming on the show. Ladies and gentlemen, dak Muhammad before
you go what you got coming up?
Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
Man?
Speaker 4 (01:04:06):
Go out and get my new book, it's called New Rules,
where we discussed some of the issues that we've discussed
here today. Truth trafficker dot Com is where you can
purchase the book. Buy a copy by two by three,
four five and give me your feedback. I'd like to
know what you think about the book, and that's it
New Rules, True traffic dot Com.
Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Or if you run an organization, you know, buy as
many books as you need and give it out to
each each member.
Speaker 4 (01:04:33):
Yes, sir absolutely, I like that, will yes sir, piece
and blessings absolutely.
Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
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