Even Single Mothers Don't Mother Alone Feat. Queen Afua

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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Welcome back to Good Mom's Bad Choices. I'm Erica and
I'm Mela. Happy Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Happy Wednesday world.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
It's the first week of February. Welcome to February.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Thank you for this beautiful welcome. Yes, it's Black History Month.
It is even though every day is Black History Month.
When you're black, this is a fact. Let's welcome all
the white people.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
This month, we are focusing on self love. The theme
is love Thyself February. So welcome to this month's theme.
I'm really excited. I just want to get straight into
that because we have an incredible guest today. We have
none other than holistic expert, wellness expert, best selling author,
just overall amazing, incredible woman, Queen for.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
I am so happy to be here with you both.
Thank you. I feel like I've known you for you
lifetime to Actually i'm laughing. I know them. I know their.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
She called her daughter and she was like, I just
have to call my daughter because it feels like she's here.
And I was like, I'll be her daughter. Do you
need your daughter ever messes up? I'm here, Queen.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Okay, if you ever miss her and you are not
in New York, we are here for you.

Speaker 5 (01:42):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
You know what, I manifested this a very long time ago.
You know, I see you on the timeline, I see
you working with like amazing women like Erka Bardou, and
you've done so much work, you know, and I've I've
followed it here and there, and I was like, one
day she's gonna come on our show. So finally when
it aligned, it feels so good to have you here.
And like, honestly, to be honest, me and Erica were
super nervous.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
Very this is how nervous looks. Fabulous nervous.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Then yeah, we we got your book, The Sacred Woman,
and I was like, I don't think I'm able to
finish this in time to meet Queen.

Speaker 5 (02:14):
I was like, oh no, what am I gonna do it?
She's gonna know. I'm like, no, I'm gonna.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
Living it already. That's why you're relating to it, because
you said, oh, okay, that feels familiar. Oh wait a minute,
my aunt, my mother. You know, you start to see
your family because I connected to you as I was writing.
I remember your mother, your grandma, because it's the energy
of our culture and that's the unity. So that book
is not for you to get stressed out.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
I wasn't s I mean I was more so just like, wow,
I should Firstly, I should have gotten it a long
time ago.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
This is the right time for you to have it.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Okay, I received that. Okay, I'm gonna least always glad
he has gone. Queen is here. She told me.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
It's okay.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Everything's in divine time, in alignment, when you're ready. I
think we're nowis and now we're ready to receive the information.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
I just am so, I'm just so, I have so
many questions, but really I'm just really curious about you know,
your journey to queen a fool.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
And I was just letting on our listeners to know
we're referencing this book. She's written many books, but the
book that we're referencing is The Sacred Woman, what has
been called the women's Bible of our time. In case
you are not familiar. So if you're listening and you're wondering,
what are they talking about? That is what we were
talking about.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
It is, yes, and will link it here in the
episode description so you can check it out. But yeah,
what is what has been your journey in becoming a
sacred Woman? I mean I know that, like we all
are sacred women, but I think a lot of times
we don't even we can't identify that, we can't identify
that within ourselves, or we don't really we don't even
really know what exactly that means. So how did you

(03:50):
come to this?

Speaker 4 (03:51):
Did I come to that? Well, it's in Nate, I'm
coming out of the sixties. So the whole movement of
freedom and liberation and Angela Davis and the great ones
of our time, they came out of the sixties. They
were the revolutionaries. And inside of that there was a
love of culture, a love of holistic healing on different levels.

(04:16):
And during that time, I was very sick, you know,
as a teenager, I had PMS chronic I had ezema
from head to toe, I had arthritis, I had asthma soul.
I was really looking for my healing. And it's my
healing that brought me to the culture. I remember being
in my mother's kitchen and having fish on Friday, and

(04:41):
I wasn't vegetarian then, but I heard this drum playing
and I stopped. I said, where is that. I ran
out of my family's home, ran to where the drum
was playing, and this was drummer, playing by himself. He
was just drumming, and I stood, I was spellbound. I
felt my culture, It's like, no matter what we've gone through,

(05:03):
it's still there, it's still in us. And so I
just stayed with the drum and then I became a dancer.
It was all in that same zone. So I studied
Haitian dance, Brazilian dance, African traditional dance, and it just
kept healing me. The movement was the medicine, and it

(05:25):
just went and I was in. I was in a
I went to the Metropolitan Opera with a dance. It
was done and it was from Chemic, based on chemetic teachings.
So dance and medicine and holistic and culture. It led me.
But when I say, writing the second one book, it
pulled me all the way in because I said, okay,

(05:48):
in talking about the sacred woman, the sacred woman is
the woman who's connected to the divine, who's conscious that
she is connected to the divine spirit. That could be
all the mare Jaja, whole of the most High, all
the spiritual names for the one Divine that is moving
and inspiring us to be who we are. So in
that process of the growth and the healing. I was saying, So, now,

(06:13):
what is where did aroma therapy come from African natural lifestyle?
Where did Rekie come from African natural lifestyle? We did,
color therapy and astrology come from African natural lifestyle. We
added fasting and hydro and healing baths and meditation and yoga.

(06:37):
All that that was considered new age is all African
natural lives. Our stuff. So it just led me back
to having a greater love for our stuff, which is
what holistic medicine is based on, our culture, our way.
And so the deeper I go into our way, the
more connected I feel to what civilization start out as

(06:58):
the first mothers. We were the original heelers.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
You're from New York, right, So it sounds like even
as a young girl, you had this your your mind
and your ear was open to this voice that kind
of was guiding you. And what a blessing because I
feel I do feel like children have this voice. And
somewhere along the way, you know, the voice gets lower
and lower and lower and lower, and that we can't

(07:24):
hear it anymore. And then sometimes whether it's something that
happens in your life and you have this awakening or
sometimes it never happens, and so I just I'm thinking
of you. I meant imagining you as like a young teenager,
like listening to this drum and having this calling. Mila
was telling me she's like I done. I was listening
to an interview with Queen and she was saying how

(07:44):
that you were sick as a young in your youth
and that you went on this retreat that really kind
of helped you change your life when it comes to eating,
and even on our retreats. You know, we do women's
retreats and we've we've done them exclusively in Costa Rica
as of now. And one of the things that I
always find so alarming is the food element of the retreat.

(08:10):
So it's very intentional, it's very clean, it's basically farm
to table, and a lot of these women struggle. They
struggle with it. No matter how nourishing the food is,
how filling the food is, their body literally rejects it.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
Because they've been raised from generation to generation fast food,
junk food, grab and go, high level of meat and take. Well,
it's actually plantation died also, so hundreds of years of
one way from grandmother to daughter to daughter to daughter
to daughter. It's a habit, but it's a habit that

(08:47):
we must break because with that habit, we have that diabetes,
the high blood pressure, the five word tumors, the cysts,
the stress, all of that. It's primarily what we're eating
and what's eating at us.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
It's all connected much judgment around eating healthy, which I
think is it's so ironic when I like, I listen,
I am not the healthiest person. I do go in
and out. I've been vegan before, I've been vegetarian. I
kind of like fluctuate. I'm on the spectrum all the time.
But I know that when I really am trying to
be my healthiest self is when I get the most

(09:18):
like pushback from my friends. They're like, oh, you're doing
that again, Oh you go, you You're so healthy. I'm like, yeah,
like why why is this a bad thing that I
want to be healthy?

Speaker 3 (09:30):
So funny it's one of your friends. The week you
choose to be clean, you be judging everybody else.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
She'd be clean for one week, like, oh you don't
want to eat vegetables, Oh my girl, we were just
eating the SAME's. I think that's maybe where you get
the pushback. Girl, I think it's your judgment. I don't know.
I think that she did this to me last night.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
I was like, do I think generally I eat pretty
healthy most of the time, and whenever I like, can
we like not eat it? Can we not eat here?
Can we try to? They're like, okay, But I just
find and it's not just with me, I just find
in general, like even going on these retreats, Like when
we do these retreats, a.

Speaker 5 (10:07):
Lot of the women are like, there's.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
No chips, like the alternatives, there's this, there's that you
could get the seaweed, or like, I'm still hungry, and
I'm like, girl, you don't ate like a whole filet
of a chicken like you you need to ask yourself,
why are you still hungry?

Speaker 4 (10:25):
Like? What is wanted to prepare them? You what happens
they come on a retreat and all of a sudden,
the life is changing me really, but where is they
want their comfort foods? That's the fun, that's recreation. Food
is recreation. So you actually have to build them up
to come on your retreats if you try and change
their lifestyle so that it's not such a jarring Oh
my gosh, it's like my whole life is based around food,

(10:48):
and now you're taking the food away from me. No,
I'm giving you love. I'm showing you love. So it's
having compassion and mercy and just taking someone through their transition.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
You kind of live your life like your lifestyle is
detox essentially, like you have this detox.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
Lifestyle, detox everything. Yeah, do talk the house, detox relationships, attitudes,
my own thoughts. I know when detoxing came because I
had to heal myself and I use foods, I use
healing baths, I use water therapy, so I use all
of that. That's a part of the detox. But also

(11:23):
my thinking, some thinking that I have to let go of,
you know. You know, and when I think about single mothers,
I had to detox some thoughts from that too.

Speaker 5 (11:33):
Which ones were those.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
That I said, we're not divorced, We're going through transformation
that shifts the relationship with your children, with yourself, Because
when I think about, okay, we're going to divorce, you know,
divorce looks like cut the sulfur in half, cut the
children in half. The energy, the words, the stress level,

(11:55):
the aloneness of the divorce as opposed to saying I'm
going through a transforming and i am letting go of
a part of me that needs to pass away, and
I'm embracing something better and greater in my life. So
that helped me to really say, and then a single parent,
the single you don't just raise your child by yourself.

(12:16):
Your children are raised by a community, whether you know
it or not. It could be your best girlfriend, it
could be an uncle or cousin, the grandmother's school, the school.
You have to just tap into everything so you don't
feel like isolate or single or by myself or I
have to do it all and that becomes a problem
because I'm one. Sister said, all the daughters upset with

(12:40):
their mothers. They're anger with their mothers. You know why,
because the mothers take all the brunt. The mother was
never designed to do one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
I love that. I love that.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
I think that we take that on so much like
society puts it on us, and that's the expectation. We
eat it a lot of times. Our spouses or our
partners put it on us.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
While you're the mother, Well what do you mean? You're
the mom?

Speaker 3 (13:00):
And if and then you've you hold this guilt that
if I don't perform at this level. And I hate
that because it really takes away it takes away the
individuality and like and a lot of times the purpose
that women hold and we've got I've gotten into like
spats with women about that.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Like it goes both ways.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Like women are like, yeah, like maybe my only purpose
isn't just to be a mother, like I have things
outside of that. We're multifaceted. But because I posted something
about this recently, and then there's also on the other side,
women who are like, why why does it Why are
you making it seem like it's not okay to just
want to be a mother and a wife And it's
not neither. You know, you could if some people that's
just your purpose to be a mother and a wife,

(13:40):
and but for many women, it's your purpose. You could
do that and do other things.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
I don't believe that's any woman's sole purpose.

Speaker 5 (13:46):
I think that.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
I mean, there's women who will, but.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
I think that women that that really that feel that way.
And I'm not just like, it's not to say that
you can't be those things and be the best at them,
but I would encourage you to also explore other facets
of your being outside of motherhood, like it doesn't you're
not a bad mom, or like you're not you're not

(14:09):
you don't have a real job unless if you're not
being a mother or you're not at home. I think
that's why they carry that burden because they maybe they're
sitting at home moms and they feel there's like a
level of kind of like guilt or privilege they feel
guilty about and so they're like, no, this is a job,
and it's like, we know it's a job.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
I think that it's just like a combination of things.
It's like when the whole world tells you that like
you're going to grow up with you know, you're a
little girl and they give you a kitchen set, you know,
when they give you a little baby, you know, and
you're walking around with your your stroller as a three
year old. It's like training, you know, to be like,
this is your purpose in life, and for some of us,
that's one of our purposes. I think it is triggering
for some women when other women say like, this may

(14:50):
be not your whole purpose. It's because we've been brainwashed
to believe that our entire existence is contingent about having
a partner and having a baby intending to that household.
And I think we were talking about this before the
show started. Is that that's why sometimes often if you
those relationships with your child's father doesn't work out, you
feel this immense level of responsibility and disappointment if it

(15:13):
doesn't work, and men don't generally feel that same level
of disappointment, And you know, it's just like a I
think it's really important for women to take a moment
to hear your own voice and say, is this all
that my purpose is? Is there more to me? Are
there more things that I feel passionate about? But when
you have been told over and over and over again,

(15:34):
if this is successful, this is your level of success,
and then you hit that, and then some other women
is like, no, you're going to be defensive in that.
It's going to be hard for you to get past. Actually,
maybe there is something further and deeper, and you know,
so it's it's always interesting to me to for women
particularly to like be upset about that that idea. But

(15:58):
I think it's because maybe they feel like, damn, I
got God, I might have got got believing that this
is my only sole purpose. You know, it's triggering if
someone like says you could be doing more but you're not,
or maybe you have more of a gift to offer people.
And a lot of times we don't even realize that
our gifts, even within our families and our communities, it's
not necessarily you have to be like strap your boots

(16:18):
up and go to work and clock in or be
the CEO.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
You know, like there's so many it's called balance.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
Yeah, you know, it's having a family that's and I
couldn't figure it out to separate. So I was extreme.
I would with motherhood into my work, so mothering and work.
I mothered my children, I mothered my work, I mothered
the community. There's a lot of nurturing that we're now.

(16:45):
I said to the mother's mother, you, if you can
actually mother yourself, you would take through all the self
care and you'd get into your balance. And you also
discovered that there's other parts of you. And that's when
you do you start your own business, or you write
your book, or you create a product. And the family

(17:09):
raising through the sixties, the cultural thought was that it's
a family business. That's what you're doing, and you nurture
that and you bring your family to whatever that is.
And so the family grows from the business. In African culture,
there will be the family of the musicians, the family
of the educators. So this is the family working together.

(17:32):
So it's never just the mother alone anyway, it was
always and so when mother said I'm by myself, don't
affirm those words. There's no one else out there. I
mean just your story alone. Is amazing that your daughters
when the first of all, you have daughters, and the
daughters are almost the same age, and you were looking
for each other to help. And I remember back in

(17:52):
the day, I said, well I created a co op,
a mother co op. It was five mothers and each
of us had a day and we took all five.
You know, you had you one had one. Well, whoever
that was If my day is Monday, I have activities,
Bring all the children me on Monday.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
So everyone has.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
Everyone had their time. So you have a few days
that you can have to yourself to grow and develop yourself,
so you won't be an angryer mother. So important you
know you'll be at peace because a lot of times
mother's taken out on their children whatever is happening with
their mates or whether it's not happening with their fault
with the fathers, and so we have a lot of
healing and bouncey and do to be a mother, to mother,

(18:35):
you the mother your children, probably the mother your purpose
and all of that mothering. It's work, you know, but
it's self work and it's worth it. It just takes
you to a higher level when you start to unravel
and grow. Me and my daughter is a mother daughter grow.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
It's a mother.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
Actually she's raising me now, you know, the circle of
life said, okay, money, you gotta be up to date
with stuff. And so now she's doing a lot.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Of amazing that you were able to receive that mothering.
I think, especially like in the black communities, especially for
my mom, Like, it's been a long journey to recognize that.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
We have we have a we have a lesson for
each other. You know, it's not one side. It's not
one sided.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
And I and I see that, and like I read
something about you saying that not only like having a tribe,
but raising your sons and like raising your kids amongst heal,
healed people and healthy people, and like you know that
that's the important part about raising your vibration and making
sure your community is vibrating at the same levels, so

(19:36):
that you know, like even when I met Erica, like
rapid healing began because we, you know, not even realizing,
made this commitment to like speak honestly, and that was medicine,
you know, just verbally releasing the anger and the things
that like we were feeling going through those experiences. And like,
now that I hear you talk about it, I think

(19:57):
back to like my grandmother and mom, and I felt
her anger, I felt her sadness. I felt when she
was where she was upset with my dad and it
boiled trickle down to us and how it made me
feel and how I even till this day am like
learning to release that. So I'm careful not to inherit

(20:19):
that like all of those negative things that she may
have been experiencing, because she didn't seek out a tribe,
because she didn't have the sister to say, like, this
doesn't feel good, so you know, she just sat with
it like so many moms and women do because you
think you're supposed to be committed to your family, you know, dynamic.
But the truth is is like the release of that

(20:42):
is so healing for your kids, because when you're trying
to work through it alone, it oftentimes doesn't get resolved alone.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
You cannot work alone. It's particularly for women. Are we
work in circles. We work as a collective energy. When
we feel isolated, that's when we heard we have to
seek each other out. And when I when I first
sat with you and you said, how you did seek.
There was a seeking, there was a yearning, and you said, okay,

(21:12):
so now we're together, now we're going to do so.
Life is going to just show up. But you have
to call and help. And you cannot feel like, oh,
nobody's there. Don't affirm it. You know from yes, there's
someone out here is going through what I'm going through
that can help me and to grow me. I can
only imagine, because you've been done for five years, the
beginning of the conversation and all the issues that were starting,

(21:34):
and now you've grown through and you know so much
has happened to transform you. But I think it's just
so wonderful that you did find each other and that
you helped each other, and your daughters are going to
be you know, blessed because of that.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
It's so wonderful.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
I think about the circles and think I think about
women because we get this question a lot. It's like
I don't have affirming that, I don't have anyone, and
I don't have a tribe, or I don't have a
Jamila or in America. And I think, I think about
you in the sixties and or the seventies, and I
think about the women now in this day and age.
I feel like there are so many more opportunities and

(22:12):
resources to actually find your circle.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Now.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
We create a circle for women, whether it's the retreats,
whether it's the meetups, whether it's really you have your
own circles too, and I and really it's all of
our circles, and they're so easily accessible now because you're
sitting on your phone looking and scrolling through so many
things except not really looking and scrolling and trying to
find your circle. And at this point, in this day

(22:38):
and age, you can find your circle on the internet.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
You can find your circle without even trying to find yoursel.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Like there really is no reason except you getting in
your way and you thinking like ah, making excuses like ah,
that's weird, I don't know them, or maybe like next time,
or they don't look like my people, or like just
just making these agreements with yourself without really stepping out
and trying something different. And that's really what it has
to be. It has to be you getting uncomfortable and

(23:04):
just saying, you know what, I'm just gonna start and
I'm going to try it. When I met Mila, like
I don't I would never go try to meet a
friend that I saw on the internet that I knew
was going to be at a bar. And that was
my intention, Like that was my only intention in going.
In fact, I didn't have a lot of time because
I was breastfeeding and my mom, my mom was my

(23:24):
daughter was like three months old, and my mom.

Speaker 5 (23:26):
Was like, where are you are?

Speaker 4 (23:27):
You're going?

Speaker 5 (23:27):
Yeah, you're going.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
So I was like, Okay, I got to hurry up
because my mom was already judging me, and I don't
want to hear judge, you know, but like I felt
called to do it.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
That's the truth, that's right. Did that intuition. When that
intuition kicks in, that's God, that's the most high talking
to you and guide you. Because the most I hears
you cry and you're call and your need of you
and your daughter. She was calling. Also she needed a playmate.
She didn't want the same frequent see so you was

(24:01):
able to listen. I have a little book called Impeccable Listening.
And I said, well, and I was going to have
a meeting with Laura London and Leila Dehlia and I said, most, Hi,
what am I getting to give to them? And then
I heard impeccable listening? I said, I said, well, so

(24:26):
what's impeccable? I have this conversation going on. I said, so,
what's impeccable listening? Peccable listening is listening to your intuition impeccably.
And I started to reflect on that, because for me,
that's going to save the world. And I said, when
I did not listen impeccably, I went down the rabbit
hole and I had relationships that were toxic and I

(24:48):
didn't want to see them until they showed up all
the way. Okay, most when you're back on the ground,
on the floor, you said, okay, now how do I
get up off this ground? The next time I asked
a question, I'm and to listen and packleby. I'm not
gonna make it up. You know how you ask a question,
but your uni mind said no, but we don't want that.
Let me go put okayle listening what I gave and

(25:11):
that has been my savings grace. But even though I
did not listen to Peckaby, I'm so grateful because I
wouldn't have had the children. So I'm glad I didn't
listen because I do love my children, who are adult people.
And so that's why I just take your whole life
and just embrace it and say, this is my consciousness,

(25:33):
is where I was, This is where no regrets. It's
all lessons. And I always say every lesson is a blessing.
So embrace the lesson that allows me to continue to
dance and to sing and to spin in my kitchen
and to be myself. Because what ages women is the
regrets that makes you old and broken and worn, that

(25:54):
gives you the high blood pressure, that gives you the
breast cancer, that give you the fibers, all of that
accumulation of all the relationships that disappointed you. So I said,
clean house, give.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Everyone that forgiveness.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
You're right that forgiven that resentment, that anger that builds
up because so and so took your time and did this.
I've seen that like fester, and how like ugly that
can become, and like even thinking about like you know,
talking about like your tribe and impeccable listening and listening
to yourself, and like women having a hard time reaching
out to other women. You know, I realized that when

(26:30):
during the women's retreats, everyone is like kind of on
guard in ways because we've kind of learned that too.
But a lot of times I feel like women don't
trust women because truly they don't trust themselves.

Speaker 4 (26:42):
Yeah, they have a mother daughter relationship, whatever happened grandmother, mother, auntie,
you just they're just relationships to du recycle. So in
the room, you could be women in their twenties, thirties,
and forties, but in the room is they're seven years old,
five years old, six years old, and you could your
eye open. We actually see that age where they're actually

(27:03):
carrying that into every relationship. So when you were bullied
or someone made you feel small, or you wasn't so
called pretty enough, or talked about your hair or talked
about your complain all that stuff, you grow up as
a woman feeling not worthy. And so those relationships are
really coming from all the childhood issues.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
They haven't released that pain.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
Because that's what sickness comes from. That's all the diseases
coming from the built up of unresolved issues that create
the men in our lives.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Because then we attracked the men that that's the circumstances
and the messages that we've heard that are probably aren't true,
but we haven't listened to ourselves to release them. I
read in your or maybe I listened in an interview
that you were saying that you know with your with
your kid's father, is that you recognize that you guys

(27:56):
would make each other sick if you stayed, and so
you you know, like.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
How what was that process for you?

Speaker 3 (28:03):
I know a lot of women's I mean, like my mom,
for instance, stayed in a marriage and a relationship for
so long. Like I think she lost herself in a
lot of ways and it's now, you know, trying to
pick up the pieces and you know, and the same
I start when I got in a certain age, I'm like, oh,
my mom's like a little girl.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
You know.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
My mom met my dad when she was fourteen, And
sometimes I see her that age, you know, like she'll
call me like where.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Should I go? What should I do?

Speaker 3 (28:25):
I'm my girl, But I remember, like the roles will always,
you know, I'll hold her she'll hold me. But I
think a lot of women have a hard time listening
to their own voice because we've been taught to you know,
like not that we're not supposed to follow our men
or take leadership, but when we choose the men that
are not worthy of being followed, it can confuse you

(28:48):
and confuse your own voice. So like during that time,
having three kids, deciding to make that choice, what was like,
what was that process for you?

Speaker 4 (28:58):
I said to my I remember, I remember where I was.
I was right in Brooklyn on Flatbush Avenue. And I said, Hm,
if I stay in this relationship, it was a violent relationship,
I might destroy my They sure may not have any hope.
So I can stay in the relationship because growing up,

(29:21):
you're supposed to stay together, right no matter what, keep
the family together. But if I go, I might make it,
they might make it. If I stay, I might die
in this relationship fully, And then what will they have.
They'll have a dead mother spiritually, virtually, virtually, emotionally, psychologically,

(29:44):
and then how will they grow as human beings? And
I know it's going to be hard if I left
for them, not having the father in the house. I
know it's going to be difficult, but I know it
would be worse. I had to make a choice if
I stayed, and then and then my daughter at three
years old. I can't believe I listened to a three
year but I trusted what she said. She knew it

(30:09):
was a violent moment, and she said, Mom, let's go
to grandmother's house. And I had that shoulder that you
just okay, okay, said let's go to grit making a
choice for us. I said, okay, because what happens If
I would have stayed and that kept going the voice

(30:30):
to add to the hands of this, I might have
just wiped her out fully, you know, over time, her
love and all of that that, you know, it grew.
And because I never talked negative about their father no
matter what, I didn't bring all my stuff in it,
you know, and that helped them because they had to
make their own choices about life. That was our relationship.

(30:53):
But that was that crossroads and I don't regret it.
I'm grateful that I had the strength to take it on.
And it was not easy journey, you know, I went.
My story makes my want to cry, but I'm so
happy that I'm still joyous and I'm in peace in
my soul. The relationships are all my lessons. So that
was a huge lesson of growing up and developing and

(31:15):
being mature and not relying on someone to take care
of all my knees. So that's that's part of how
I became a businesswoman.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
You have to You're like, well, now I get his children.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Then that is a profound statement.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
If I did not stay, I would die and not
be a dead mother.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Dead mother.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
I think about all the dead mothers walking the earth
right now.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
My mom was dead for a long period of my
growing up. And when you said that, that shit struck
me because I never thought about it in that way.
And that is true, you know. And like I had
a conversation with my mom when I was six, I
was like maybe five or six, and I was like
why with like where you're not happy?

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Like do you why don't you leave?

Speaker 3 (31:57):
You See, I remember the same ex where I was at,
what house we were at, looking across from her, and
like she didn't listen, and you know, in years and
years past, and like she's still dealing with that anger
and dealing with that hurt. But that was also the
motivation for me when I got in a relationship that
was abusive and difficult, and I saw the makings of

(32:20):
the family dynamic in which I grew up in and
I was like, oh, hell no, like this is not
will I will be dead will I've started to feel numb,
like I wasn't myself anymore. My friends I could tell
couldn't recognize me. I couldn't recognize myself. But I think
it's really powerful for our listeners, for us to hear
you say that, because I think a lot of times

(32:41):
as women, you know, we were like, we know that
we're strong.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
But it feels.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
It feels weak to be like you know, you don't
think when you think of Queen, Queen of Fool, you're like,
never she would be in such a relationship and with
an abusive person that could.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
It was Helen Robinson before Queen a Fool. I grew
into that reality and that took a lot of growing
up in it. When I accepted Queen, I said, that's
a little too much. People are not gonna like me.
And I accepted it because I felt I was representing

(33:21):
us and I have to sit up on my seat
of power. And then I accepted. I accepted a fool
born on Friday, which is the day of Love and Venus.
And I do love myself, my community, my people, my family.
So I know that everything was in divine order, and
so I have you know, there was is a shame

(33:41):
that comes with it, and women don't want to say
anything or they want to dress up and look pretty
and look lovely as if they're not getting jacked up
at home. And then that's a part of the death,
you know, So the true you never is born. But
also it's really because there's no blame. It's what you
go into the relationship with becomes the relationship. So my insecurities,

(34:05):
my fears, my doubts, all of my energies and attitudes
connected to this being, you know. And we started off
really great vegetarian vegetaranir Oh, that's hot. Okay. I was
powerwalking in Brooklyn and jogging, and I knew he was
going to kind of try to wrap to me. You
could always, you know, and too, so he came around,
he said, Hi, how you doing. Happy Sunday? I said,

(34:26):
happy Sunday to you jogging and he was in a
jazz and I was in a jazz and so it
was so it was a lovely frame of great possibilities,
But inside of that there's still your insecurities, your fears,
your doubts, or am I pretty enough? I'm just so happy.
I'm so grateful for this relationship with that all that's
coming in. So that's why we have to really get
to ourselves and help our daughters and talk to them young,

(34:50):
see yourself, and talk to them now, because otherwise they're
going to fall into the same traps and you're gonna say,
wait a minute, how.

Speaker 5 (34:58):
Did this happen?

Speaker 4 (35:01):
I didn't tell her that, I didn't have that conversation.
She never even saw that. But if you don't clear
that up inside yourself, it will passed down mother to daughter.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
I mean, I think about the frame and how many
women and men enter relationships based on the frame just
this this frame frame.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
Oh he looks so fine that frame, and he's got
the money, and he's got the he likes me, oh great,
a little bit more than that.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
But sometimes it's not, you know, and and and that's
and that's where the death begins.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
Well because people, you know what women, men, we're seeking.
We're seeking validation if we haven't sought it out to
validate ourselves. We're seeking someone to tell us we're beautiful.
We're seeking someone to tell us you're so worthy. I
want to be with you. I love you, you know
what I mean? And then that feels so good because
a lot of times we haven't validated ourselves, we haven't
really really loved ourselves. And I find that a lot

(36:00):
of us say, of course I love myself, I know
I'm fine, I'm the bomb, I respect myself, But then
our actions show up and it's not that. And I
had to like really crack myself open and be like, girl,
you lying that is a lie because this doesn't add up,
you know. So a lot of times it's like we
all is. It's in our human nature to want to
feel needed. I want to feel loved, and if we

(36:22):
haven't addressed that like void in ourselves, we will seek
out whomever, even if it's basic, the basic framework to
fill our cups, and like it's never it's never enough
if it's not first filled by you.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
Well, one of the things is missing. That's why the
book Sake of Woman, I believe, is an answer to
so many levels and so many calls, because what's missing
is a guide to grow into yourself. Stolen people store
a culture, a language, a land, a home, or medicine away.

(36:56):
And that's from the beginning of time to walk throughout Africa.
When we were stolen those four hundred years. That had
a devastating impact on us. And we're still trying to
recover so many of our men their rights of passages
in prison, so many of our sisters their rights of
passages on the pole dancing. You know, we have different
things that have happened that have us in these situations

(37:17):
that we need to staw healing. So the rice of
passage is a way that we can begin to find
our way home to ourselves and that there's a healing
affirmation that our ancestors gave to us. It says, we
are the women who lightened the darkness.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
We are the women who lighten the darkness.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
We have come to lighten the darkness.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
We have come to lighten the darkness. It is lightened,
it is lightened. We have overcome the destroyers. We have
overcome the destroyers.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
We are there for those who weep, who hide their faces.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
We are there for those who weep and hide their faces,
who sunk down. We sunk down.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
They looked upon us, then they looked upon us game
We are the women. We are the healers.

Speaker 5 (38:04):
We are the women.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
We are the healers.

Speaker 4 (38:06):
We are the women. We are the healers. So we
could take time to really go inside our hearts and
our minds, and our spirit and our blood and our womb,
all of the healing. That from gateway to gateway, we
would discover the true beauty and that would radiate and
then we won't have to look for the man. He
would seek us out and we would be patient because

(38:28):
we know that we're ageless and we're beautiful, and that
we're the original paradigm of the beauty of what a
woman is. So that we can now hold on to
our grace and our beauty, and then he will come,
the right one will come. But he also needs his
rights of passage. Many of our men, they have not
been poured into love and nurturing and you know, so

(38:50):
what do we do with that? They need to heal.
So we have a program for the women, which is
sacred women rights a passage, and we also have it
for the men, which is man heal ourself, wellness, worried.
So by having a method in a way, in a pathway,
you can find your way home. And that will only
inspire whatever your circle is. You have a circle, right

(39:11):
and another step a circle. If we could have a
unified circle, someone we can all drink from the well,
from the water, from the ocean. That would then bring
us together, because it's the divide and conquer. You know,
women can't come together because they're divided with their mothers. Okay,
women can't. Men and women can't come together because women

(39:31):
are anger at their fathers. So how do we unify?
We have to have a right away home and a
method that we can all live by that we can
agree with. And when I love the second woman is
but it's a channel, you know, I just like I
love the fact that you having to be the card.
And I just was laughing because I felt so much
of myself and the two of you, and that my work,

(39:55):
because my work is circles, and those circles will answer
the question what are you going through? It's in the circle.
I say, everything that you need is in the circle.
Just seek And if you seek, and even if this
circle doesn't have that answer, by you asking, someone will
come in that circle and they'll have with the circle needs.
So you just have to know that everything that you
need is right there and just call on it and

(40:18):
trust your intuition, which is a feminine principle of power.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
Well, you know I have there's a lot there that
I a.

Speaker 5 (40:29):
Yes to.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
All of that be I feel like this I've always
been I've always been guided by my intuition. However, I
have not been impeccable with it.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
And you have choice things that you listen to.

Speaker 5 (40:41):
Ye this, I'm like, oh, I don't like that. She
must be wrong.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
She's tripping to that again.

Speaker 5 (40:47):
Let me say, let's just say something real quick.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
Let me just.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
But I really you know, at the end of last year,
I went through something that really called me to say, Erica,
you knew you always know, Okay, stop and trust trust
the voice. And then a voice came to me. I
had this download and it was just like, this is

(41:14):
what you must do, and don't betray me again, you know.
And I was like, Okay, So I feel like I'm
in this this year, this this next year of my life.
I am like really listening to Like I'm really really
listening closely and not letting my emotions guide my my

(41:35):
decisions to follow my intuition, because I think too there's
there's a level of sometimes like where I feel like, oh,
let me just be more. Let me My intuition is
telling me no, but I want to be I want
to be compassionate here, So let me.

Speaker 4 (41:47):
Just see you could be compassionate and say thank you
for so nice meeting.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
I realized that too. I realized that too. And you know, also,
I think in in beginning to read the same woman,
and it's really all about, you know, healing and healing
the womb, and how healing the wom. I mean, I
don't know what it's all about, but I know that
at its core, it's really very much about healing the

(42:12):
woman and how that kind of heals everything else. And
I was thinking too about my womb and the real
me and Mila when we met, how I just had
my child, and how I had never been called to
do something like this before, and how I feel like
almost this like my womb called me to find someone
else who was in the same space as me, and

(42:33):
and just how too as women like that. And granted,
we are all mothers in our own rights. Some women
give birth, some women give birth to other types of things,
but we all have a womb and it's such a
gift and it is like blessed and layered with so
much intuition. It is our gift. It is our divine
gift as women that we have, and so often we

(42:55):
betray ourselves by not listening to it, by not nurturing it.
And I was reading in the book You Have a
Sacred Womb Journal, and I was reading some of the
questions and I was like, okay, I was like a number,
I'm gonna read some here because I was like, oh
my god, am I ready to answer these questions like this?

Speaker 5 (43:15):
While it's I was like, these are these are some.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
Questions that we always hope even like no one would
ever ask us and then let alone ask let let
alone ask ourselves. Like one of them was how many
men and what type of men have entered your womb?
And you know, that's always like this taboo question. The
women are like, don't ask me that shit, how many
of you?

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Like you know, like it's like it's a loaded question
for women. But men are like.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
You yeah, because we're because we are valued based on
that number, I mean at least in their eyes or
in our eyes too, Like our value comes from that number,
and that even thinking about that privately sometimes can be
really scary for a woman, and like the fact that
you can't even face that, but you did.

Speaker 5 (43:57):
The act is it's and you have.

Speaker 4 (44:00):
Left of some things. You were left with, the psyche,
the emotions. It's not all your emotions. You think it's
this is just me. Wait a minute, No, that's not right.
That's another entity that's still in the So you have
to watch who you say yes to, because they drop
in their thoughts, their feelings, their hurt, their sadness, their joy,

(44:20):
their pleasure, the pain, how they see women, and then
you walk in it. It's in the veins, it's in
the blood, it's in the womb of the heart, the mind.
So you have to discern and you have to ask
most high guide my relationship, show me, because obviously I
don't know, because that's why I keep ending one. So
you make the relationship, you create this to me, and

(44:42):
I'll do the work to be of the frequency that
I'm seeking so that I can really become one with that.
Because the children, I had to think about what state
of consciousness I was in in conception, because the state
of consciousness was the child that came into my wound,
the soul and house, and then they came into the world.

(45:03):
I learned compassion out of that with my children. I said, okay,
I said, I said to yell as a mother, I
get up. I used to be perfect, like take your juices.
Do you know I have the workshops? Did I tell
you to sit up too strict? Extreme? So I had
to really look at myself and what I was thinking,

(45:24):
what I was eating, what I was feeling, and the conception,
because it's the conception that creates the soul and how
they're move and walk in the world. So it's not
just what you are carrying yourself and you have a baby. No,
it's everything that you are and everything that you felt
and everything that they felt, because it's really one spirit

(45:44):
moving through you. So the information is in your child
of where you were at that time.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
That's kind of scary because when I was pregnant, I
think I went through there was a period of a
lot of joy, and then there was a period of
a lot of fear, sad, not having my mother's support
of my pregnancy. For for the first few months of
my pregnancy, my partner like just it just was his

(46:12):
safety was in question. So I was always worried and concerned,
and so there was a lot of like fear, and
I'm thinking about my daughter now and she is amazing.
We are different though, obviously, I think as most children.
I think as mothers we start to realize that our children,
we are just portals for them and they're not our minimes.
But I think of like too, the things that I

(46:33):
carry during hergnant my pregnancy and how they show up
in her as a human now. Yes, and she is.
She plays it safe. She is a by the book
type of girl. And if you good mom's bad choices,
clearly we are not so so I think I am.
I think that there's parts of me that are that way.
But I know for me as a mom, it's been

(46:55):
frustrating sometimes I'm like, girl, we're parking in the red.
She's like, oh my god, Mom, we could not parking
the red.

Speaker 5 (47:01):
The police are gonna come.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
I'm like, okay, that was that fear in the womb.

Speaker 5 (47:07):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (47:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
She does not like to break the rules, like she's
she needs to be on time, like she has expectations,
and I'm like, okay, and thinking about that and what
you just said, I'm like, it's so, it is so important.
It is kind of scary though it kind of puts
a lot of pressure on them, on a mother too,
to like really try and be you have to as.

Speaker 4 (47:29):
You can soul. But then also it's both sides. Like
my daughter moves slower than I do. I move fast.
Sometimes we'll go into a brick wall. I'm moving so quick,
so I need to slow down and so when she moves,
I have to move into that. Really have to practice.
That's my lesson here. And then we talked about it
and she says, I need to like when you when
you get a vision, you just move on it, and

(47:51):
I need to stop moving on it. So there is
something is giving a take the ebb and a flow
that is a dance between mother and daughter. It's really special.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
Yeah, I think my lesson has been to not try
to change and not try to make her feel bad
for those things and instead try to I guess, like
just relate to her and accept it. And yes, I
think we're still she's only seven, so the ebbs and flow,
you know, I haven't.

Speaker 5 (48:16):
Got there yet, right, But I mean that that is
my that's my hope.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
And if I ever have another child, I definitely I
know that it would it would have to be a
different experience, I'm so much more self aware.

Speaker 5 (48:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:32):
Oh well, the level of your consciousness is the level
of your mate.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Oh that's the truth.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
Shit, So it has something you can So okay, you
know what, not right now, let me work on myself
a little bit further, because when you say okay, this
is it? Is it? Really it is? There a few
more things that you can clean up and put in
order in your life because when you say yes, block,
you lock into that place of consciousness. And that's what

(48:59):
she created the relationship or the life that you carry,
which is a continuation of the relationship. When you talk
about womb wellness. Well, Sacred Woman opened up the energy
of the womb healing and the conversation with the womb.
And the first time I heard the womb speak and
I call her she because I wanted to have close

(49:20):
relationship because we stay down there, you know, disconnected. I was.
I saw maybe thirty people that week for clients. Everybody
was in a crisis. And I remember four fifteen. It
was four fifteen on a Friday, and I had a thump.
My wound. Life really dropped. I didn't know about a
prolapse uteris then, and I said, oh wait, a minute.

(49:41):
Oh my goodness, I didn't know what to do. And
now I began to kind of panic, like I gotta
take care of myself. I got to heal myself. I
can't go outside of myself for someone to heal me.
I've got to heal myself. So I went to my
girlfriend was in my laboratory building to my product, and
I said, well, heed her my womb. But like it
just dropped out of me. She said, well, you're the heel.
I don't know what to tell you. I said, well, okay,

(50:05):
And that was the moment I said what am I
going to do? Ask the question what am I going
to do? And I heard the inner voice That was
the loudest I heard the voice in the early days.
It says, go upstairs now, not okay, I'm not questioning
because I'm desperate. I need a healing right now, and
I know it has to come from within. And she said,
go upstairs where I have a meditation room at the

(50:27):
time in Brooklyn. And she said, now lay down, and
I put your feet up against the wall, so it
was like an angle about angle. And now she said,
put your hands on me. And then she says, not
breathe brief life into us, and she began to talk
to me, and then I relaxed. The time went and
then she gave me a formula and I had to
leave New York.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
That was one of that was part of the face.

Speaker 4 (50:51):
It was a big formula which I could have debated,
but I wasn't. I wouldn't want to have HYS directed me.
If that was not in the cards, I'm not having it.
So I said, oh, is that what I need to do? Okay,
now my children? What am gonna do with that? And
the business? And I have eight people employed. But I
but I asked Creator, how do I do it? How
do I heal me and keep everything else going? How

(51:14):
do I heal me and take care of my children?
How do I heal me and take care of my company?
And I was given a formulation and I did it
for six months. Every month I'd come back here, back
in New York Brooklyn, and I would work to my clients.
I'd get on that plane ten days later. It's like
eight nine months birthday, get on the plane, go for
two weeks work in the same time. St. Croix come

(51:37):
and I did that, and I had time to do
a healing bath and a sun bath and take fresh pineapple.
I was able to really go in. But in that
time I really finished that first chapter, which was Womb healing,
the Voice of the Womb, the Journal of the Womb,
the conversation, the woomb yoga dance. Everything was womb, warm,

(51:58):
warm woman. I remember the husband at the time said,
what you think everything is the womb? I said, yes,
all of you came from out of us. So I'm
listening to the womb talk and I'm being obedient. But
then what happened over time? Everyone cannot relate to sacred women.
It's so intense, right, but everyone knows they have a womb,

(52:18):
and those who wombs have been taken and hys directed me,
they still have a womb. It's the womb of the mind,
or what we think we birth, recreate. It's the womb
of the heart. But we feel we birth, we create,
and what we think and what we feel it translates
into the condition of our wounds. If we have been
domuculosis or fib were tumors or assists. It's really what's
inside the heart, how we feel relationships that were not

(52:40):
resolved or healed up. So that brought me into womb
kill Love, which is what I'm doing now, and I
want to invite you both in every all of your
listening audience to for the New Year, knew you a
womb kill Love holistic party. Oh yeah, So you come
on and we're just going to have a part. We're
going to celebrate our wombs. We're gonna have conversation with her,

(53:02):
We're gonna do some healing movements. I'm gonna talk about
the wombfruit jewel up and some things you can do
in the kitchen and your healing baths and your love potions.
Then we're just gonna have two hours of talking and
chatting and sharing some of our womb's stories and mother
daughter stories about what was your birth story? Do you remember?
Do you know? Did your mamma talk to you about it?
So we're just gonna have a time where we have

(53:25):
time to really reflect in a journal and to go
deeper in our healing. So those who are one sacred women,
that's a big body of work. From the words as medicine,
to movement as medicine, that's a sacred woman, to your
inner child's medicine, to your mace has medicine, to your
business has medicine, these or twelve gateways of medicine, but

(53:48):
those say, well I need to do I can't do
all of that. But what I can do is I
can focus on this firebird that's growing in me that
I don't want to grow anymore and I need to
change some habits. So that's for all the women, you know.
So that's what we have common ground. It is.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
That's amazing to think about too. I mean, I've ever
considered the womb outside of the like this womb like
the womb of the heart and the woman of the mind.

Speaker 4 (54:14):
Yes, yes, well, I always want to know holistic, how
does this all impact everything? How does my womb state
impact my children if I'm healthy or not? And what
am I birthing a my birthing a business and my
birthing a new thought? I see the connection, honess you sauce, Oh,
it's a body, mind and spiritual connection. So I would

(54:38):
have to then say, what was in my heart at
the time that I brought that mate into my life?
What was I thinking that I brought that made into
my life? And according to my thoughts when I started
to actually map them and trace them, you know, you
get up at between four and six. And the more
you can you can see things you can never see.
The melon is pouring out. So I said, okay, now,

(54:58):
what was that relationship about? And what was I feeling
during that time? Was you feeling lonely? Was you feeling frightened? Scared?
So you bring someone into your life to feel a
void that it's really for you to heal up. You
have to heal yourself. And then to the frequency that
you heal yourself, that is the make that will come

(55:19):
in and that will be the relationship that is healthy
or not healthy. So what are we birthing even in
this minute when someone says I just want a man, Okay.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Watch out any man. Don't care what you ask for
that intation, right.

Speaker 4 (55:37):
And so we do have to look at everything that
we're birthing in our lives. It's coming from inside of ourselves,
coming from our mother's story. So I'm miss our mother's story.
And I remember there was a young lady, she was
about thirty five. She called me and she says, I'm
having womb pain every month, and I'm scared about it.
I have assists. I don't have it to my assists.
So I said, well, tell me about the women in

(55:57):
your family. She said, well, I have five on and
all five of them had hysterectomies. Okay, my mother had
a partial and my grandmother had a partial. I says, okay,
So what are you eating? Dead food, junk food, fried food,
fast food? What are your relationships are? Like? Well, I
have someone in my life, but I don't know if
he's really my mate. So now we get all that

(56:18):
confusion going on. I says, okay, well, right now, the
direction that you're going on, now you're going to be
following your aunts. You have a choice. You can actually
save your room by taking time to heal yourself. And
taking that time to heal yourself, you can change your
whole story and then you become the light of the family. Now,

(56:41):
be the light of the family could be a problem
for some. They're like, how come I'm different? You better
be glad that you the one.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Chain makes the change.

Speaker 5 (56:49):
Come on.

Speaker 4 (56:50):
My daughter says this story. She says, when her girlfriends,
eight of them is in the house, in and out
of the house all the time, right, and they would
laugh at me, they would teenagers. I have my bells
on up in my dance, I have my stylead in
my pocketbook. You know me, I'm making a smoothie with
berries and fruits and all your mother is just over

(57:11):
the top all of Israel. I said, don't worry, I'll
see them in their thirties.

Speaker 5 (57:16):
They'll be back, They'll be back.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
And I went about my life. I didn't feel no
way about it. I left with them, and that's exactly
what happened. They thought, well, can you tell me about
this movie meal? And I'm having a little problem in
this and the third And it's just to have insight
that your future is right now and that you have
divine wisdom. When you clean the house, this wisdom kicks in.

(57:38):
It's amazing. But the Creator can do for our lives
and we can actually clean up our house. This is
the top of it. Let's just do a deep cleaning.
I'm with it.

Speaker 5 (57:47):
I've been.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
I have been on the journey of that since that's
a little at the end of December, and I want
to continue this and not be a detox per se.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
But my like a life, lie lifestyle, chose life.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
I truly do I feel, But my body screams at
me like when I am not in alignment with it
in all ways, whether it's the food I'm eating, whether
it's the company I'm keeping, whether it's whatever it is,
and it comes out in different ways. I can be impatient,
I could be bitchy. I can My stomach hurts all
the time. Even as a child, my stomach always hurt

(58:23):
and my mom would never was like, why is your
stomach always hurt me? I was like, I don't know,
Like she always thought I was kidding, and I was like, no,
I'm in pain. And I think a lot of it
was my diet. I couldn't figure out what my diet
needed to be. And even now, like I know when
I have gone over the edge, I have done too
much of this or too much of that. My body
is like I feel like a burnt I feel like

(58:46):
fire in my body. I'm inflamed.

Speaker 4 (58:48):
Yeah, blames actually, I mean that's what metapause is. Your
body's in flames. So you have twenty thirty years of
being inflamed, so as you mature, the flames really go.
So what you do now will affecate your future. So
be wise with your wellness and listen to the body,
and then you do. You don't have to jump into it,

(59:09):
into it and just okay, I'm gonna do everything now,
just start to drink.

Speaker 5 (59:12):
Water, and that's what I usually do.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
And so I've been much more patient with myself and
it feels better. I feel better doing it this way
and I'm just looking and.

Speaker 4 (59:22):
It's just it feels better because she said, see, when
you change up and you get upset with us and
tell us start up.

Speaker 5 (59:28):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
I can be a tyrant.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
You know what it's like.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
It's it's when you listen to your body, when you
listen to your mind, to your womb, when you listen
to your intuition, which a lot of us we lose
that that you know, like you hear it, but you're like, eh,
you like you just write it off as a voice
in your head. I've learned in this in this relationship
when you know, when she got the download to come
to the club and we met in the bathroom and
then I was like I'm going. And then you know,

(59:59):
years couple of years later, she's like, let's start this podcast.
And I didn't even really know what that was and
I didn't really care. I was like, okay, Like I
needed a friend, I needed the like, you know, I
didn't have that many black friends. I had no mom friends,
and I was seeking that. I was like, I need
someone who really understands me. But I've learned in this process,
and I think Erica has too. It's like when I

(01:00:20):
submitted to like whatever that was that was pushing me
to be like, yeah, let's do this. Ye, the world
opened up for me in ways. You know, we're sitting
in our studio. I'm like that I didn't see that vision.
But we took the first step, yes, and it felt uncomfortable.
It felt we were to just like turn on a
mic and be like no one's listening, but who cares?

(01:00:40):
Or tell our business, or like I've been dating and
I slept with this person and I don't really like them,
or you know, just like really just pour out. But
when we made that decision and we followed our intuition
in that way, evy like the universe literally just structured
everything in our benefit. And a lot of times people, really,

(01:01:01):
I think, take for granted when you listen to your intuition,
how everything else will fall into place, even like in
your wildest dreams. And you know, even if I can
imagine for you, like coming from going from Helen to Queen,
you know, and like just taking that first step into
listening to the download into like making change. And it

(01:01:22):
may not be overnight, but the universe like spirit also
conspires in your benefit when you listen to your inner voice.
And that's how you know, because that's the thing like
when me and Erica started like birthing things, and I
was like, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
I like, we just talked about that, and now it's here.
Oh my god. We just talked about maybe having a book,
and now it's here. Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
We talked about having retreat and now when I see
us birth those things. It gave me the like the
foresight to understand my power as an individual in our
power together.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
And it's like my life.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
Transformed so much just by making that one step, you know,
and like allowing her or take me into this journey
and be like okay, you know, and just allowing God
to like shift everything else and be the light for
our families and for our community. And it's like it
really is like our bodies are connected with source, are

(01:02:15):
connected with everything outside of us. Just like you said,
when you heighten like your vibration, your sacred partnership will come,
your sacred friendships will come. Like all these things it's
like a light that radiates outside like an alarm system,
like peepe, sister, I'm over here, and it's true and
people take for granted like that inner voice. I remember

(01:02:38):
I was living in Atlanta in college, not much intention
behind anything, and I was living in the West End,
which is like a hippie black area, and I had
never been around so many like free thinking black people
because I grew up in the Valley. And I was
like intrigued by that by like women home birthing and
like the conversations I was hearing. And this girl was like, yeah,
I had a womb circle and I was like, what

(01:03:01):
are y'all doing over there? But when she said it,
it like stuck with me. And at the time, I
was like doing nothing intentional, sleeping around. And I remember
I went in my phone to go like hit up
some guy who did who knows who that was, and
I got the loudest message from my womb.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
It was the first and it was so loud and
it was like chill out, stop and I was like,
who it's like that. I was like, oh my god,
I didn't even know she could talk. What the hell
is going on? And it didn't so good.

Speaker 6 (01:03:35):
It was.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
It was so clear.

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
I was like, and they were like, I'm tired a bit,
just tired, okay. I was like, well, okay, well I
guess I'm gonna lay down. And it took me a
long time to like really like hone in on that voice,
like a very long time, because I heard it clearly,
but I didn't put you know, you know, when you
were in denial about your how your actions have not

(01:03:59):
made benefited you. I just remember that and thinking, damn,
that's crazy. But just as I've evolved, and even sitting
here and having this conversation with you, it's just like
so full circle. But it's like those little things really
do like manifest whether you listen or you don't listen.
And just like you were talking about, you know, like
this the situation that you like experience not listening to

(01:04:22):
your intuition. One thing about intuition is that mother Jumper
is going to show you oh yes, And it might
be in the case of a blow up where you
have to like, it might lay you down, it might hurt,
it might feel like the end, but it's gonna always
shake you. So you remember, oh okay, no, not that direction.

Speaker 4 (01:04:44):
It's to be zolved. Actually, the intuition is not going
to hurt you, but it's going to give you the information.
It's what you do with that truth, that information that
will determinef you want to be on the floor under
the bed lock in a closet of your own heart.
So if you when you hear it's it's called ask,
you ask for the question you want help. Often then

(01:05:06):
you listen and then you do. Many will ask hear
it and don't do it, and that's when we go
down the rabbit hole of pain. That's when you're on
the floor, regret, on the floor, on the couch, call
your girlfriend up. I'm going through this all over again.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
It'd be so funny that you're saying that, because the
download that I had about my intuition was how do
I honor myself in this scenario and get to the
joy faster? Like I don't want to add this to
my list of This is why I don't trust niggas.

Speaker 5 (01:05:40):
You know, no, we're not doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
We're not going to do that here. So how do
I deal with this betrayal and honor myself and not
allow this to a like have me on the floor
that granted I needed to go through my feels and
my feelings, and I did, but I got to the
joy so much.

Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
Faster this time because you're listening more because.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
I listened and she told me what I needed to
do to get there doing it, and I'm doing it
and I really am doing it and it feels good.

Speaker 5 (01:06:12):
And that's why I haven't really been I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Calling you like, I'm like, no, you can, I know,
but I don't have that feeling like there's of course,
there's moments where I'm sad and stuff I went through.
I went through a break up, and but I'm overall,
I'm just like, Okay, I know, I'm good with my
choice and I'm good with how I'm handling this, and
my boundaries are set and they feel good to me,
and I feel happy and I can move through whatever

(01:06:37):
I need to move through. Now. I'm not going to
wallow in my sorrow and add this to my like
I said, my list of this is why this is
this way, and.

Speaker 5 (01:06:47):
It feels so much better.

Speaker 4 (01:06:49):
And I'm like, oh, you are better because you're listening
and you're trusting and what you receive you go even
if it looks crazy at the beginning, like why would
I do that to myself. Why would I fast? Why
would I not eat today? Why would And then you listen,
Oh my gosh, that's why I needed to elevate to
actually hear the next message. I'm excited every day to

(01:07:10):
wake up between four and six. What's going to be
the download today. It's like coming attractions. I'm going to
get more information, more direction, more guidance, clarity. And so
I'm finishing up a manuscript and I said, it's going
to be finished today by seven o'clock most I said it,
and I have The editors are doing what they have
to do because I'm here right now and I've got

(01:07:32):
to be right here, and the spirit has said I
have it. Don't worry, don't for you have to add
one more line or one more page or any of that,
because it's the most high in us. It's always got Mary.
Mary loved this song. Goded me. When I played that song,
I said, okay, yes, I need that because we have
such We have this vast greatness inside of us when

(01:07:56):
we started to say yes to ourselves, our highest self.
But you have that relationship in the beginning. You don't
have a healthy relationship. So you say yes, everybody else,
Yes to what everybody else wants you to do, Yes
to your past and all of that. But when you
start to say slow down, sit a moment, meditate a bit,

(01:08:16):
think before you move, ask before you go forward, you
are having self time and self care time enough to hear.
Because it is frequency. The reason why we keep going
through the same trauma is because our frequency is at
the low level. The higher our frequency, the greater our innerhering.

(01:08:38):
The higher our frequency, the more that we can see
from our oocha. And then it's magic. Tap into your
supernatural magic, and that's the joy, that's the freedom, that's
the agelessness.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
It's just a wonderful thing. I want the agelessness. I
want the agelessness.

Speaker 4 (01:09:00):
You live in the life. You don't have to be
afraid of it. Otherwise I say, I'm going to be thirty, Okay,
that's the problem. I'm going to be forty, that's a problem.
I'm going to be fifties. I'm going to be sixty,
that's a problem. I'm going to be seven. It's not
a problem. Okay, I'm not making it a problem. But
the spirits said, now you, okay, you've been away from
your wom yoga dance for a minute. Get on this
yoga Matt right now, I said. But I started to saying,

(01:09:20):
I was, wait a minute, catch yourself. When I started saying,
would I get on this yoga Matten Street And when
I do my movements, I said, almost hot things. Then
you say, it's such a gratitude because your whole life.
This is a song that came out in the sixties.
You were not born, You were not even a thought
at that time. The nervous, the creator has a master
plan by Parrosnders, and that I heard when I was sixteen,

(01:09:43):
and I would say, and I was in Brooklyn on
Saint John's and New York Avenue, and this is black
they called the black Shop. Back then you had the
Cali shells, Angela Davis all powers to the people of Dashiki's.
It's those little shops. And this Muslim brother would be
outside and he would always be playing this smith every
single day. The credit has a master plan. And then
when I just stood there and I said, let me

(01:10:04):
go into the shop and had little Frankinson some mirror.
Let me just stand here, pick up a little carrier shell,
and I heard it went to my soul. That song
has carried me from sixteen up to sixty nine. The
Creator has a plan already for your life. It's already
in you. And when you start clearing the house and

(01:10:25):
saying yes to the divine of your divineness, all of
a sudden, your life begins to work and the things
of your past begins to shed. So I've got to
get younger with time at this point, but with wisdom.
So you don't want to get older and have no wisdom.
The wisdom comes with the age of having the trial

(01:10:45):
and error, having the experiences that didn't work, that you overcame,
that you learned from. That's the wisdom. You pay the
price for that. So embrace the wisdom. And the wisdom
is our intuition. So as you get older, you'll keep
your beauty, you keep your grace, you'll maintain your peace
as opposed to be angry with age, mad, regretful, revengeful,

(01:11:07):
and nobody want to be around you, so not even
your own self right, And that's that's that's the pattern
of dying away burst the breast that have a breast
removed and the overars you moved, and then a knavy
placement and then hit replacement and it takes your mind
and you're looking out the window for your entertainment, you know.
So we have a full life. Live a full life

(01:11:31):
every day, you know, and stud your healing and make
it a way of life, and you'll just continue to
grow and grow and grow and don't carry the weight
of the relationships on the past. Say I want to
thank you. When I was closing out the last marriage,
we've been nineteen years, he supported me writing a book,

(01:11:52):
say good woman, a great craftsman, a great soul, great teacher,
and it was time for the relationship to close out.
And I knew when it was because I grew up.
I was, I became. When I was in relationship, I
was like a little girl of the grown little girl,
and I needed to put someone to protect me until
I learned how to protect myself. And then the relationship

(01:12:15):
didn't really have the same purpose. But I remember when
I was leaving, physically leaving out of the space of
his studio and I said goodbye, the spirit said go
back and thank him. See that, Well, really I went
back and I just said wow, I said thank you.

(01:12:35):
I'm saying thank you for the nineteen years, the ups,
the downs, this that, whatever it showed up and I
kissed him on his first eye, and then I partied.
Because you know the thing about any relationship in well,
because the relationship will follow you like a badgeram I
believe that?

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
In well?

Speaker 5 (01:12:54):
I believe that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
And one of the things that I'm doing this year
is releasing certain relationships that I have that have been
following me and that I've given power to. And I'm ready.
I'm ready to really release that. And even thinking about
I just want to go back because it's been bothering
me since I said it, like ten minutes ago, I
said my break, I broke, we had broke up.

Speaker 5 (01:13:14):
I want to just say I.

Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
Am in transformation, all right, I am in transformation because
that sounds so heartbreaking.

Speaker 4 (01:13:23):
And it's not that breaking breaks your heart, yeah it's
and it's so nice that spirit.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
I might have done breakups before, because the aftermath of
that I did break, but this, this is not that,
and it feels so much better.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
Graduating. You're evolving.

Speaker 4 (01:13:38):
We're choosing the words. That's some heck o, words of power,
words of majesty, words as medicines go heck oh. So
you're saying I grew evolved, You evolved like you're not
less because we separated. We are evolving, and so then
the gratitude allows you to now continue to blossom in

(01:13:59):
sacred women about you're in the mud. That's neph for
a tomb. In that mud, it's a lot of information.
It's like clay. Clay is a medicine. But then you
don't want to live and dwell in the mud. You
want to now grow. So that's when the fast and cleansing,
the changing of the diet, the forgiveness, the love, and
you start coming up through the water. You're purifying and

(01:14:19):
then at the top and you finally blossom. You come
to the top. This is the lotus, and this is
our ancestral gift that was given to us. You open up,
I'll say lotus, you say blossom, Lotus, Lotus, blossom. I'll
say lotus, you say blossom. I'll say loads, you say blossom.
And that's what we do. So then any relationship that
we're going through, Wow, I blossom. Because of that. I

(01:14:42):
became a business woman out of the most stressful relationship,
a holistic business because I had to heal myself, and
I healed myself every single time. I'm still fifty three
years healing myself.

Speaker 5 (01:14:55):
That's beautiful.

Speaker 4 (01:14:57):
That's what that relationship did. It said, if you don't
heal yourself, you're going to be peat the relationship again.

Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
And people people, I think, forget that. Like you could
date all different people, but if you haven't done the
work on yourself, you will continue to meet the same
person with the same trades and the same toxic. It
will Maine show up different in a different suit, but
consistently you will.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
You will, Yeah, you will.

Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
See the same lower vibrational people. The relationship that you're
talking about is that the relationship with your kid's father.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
Did you did you date or Mary or after that?

Speaker 4 (01:15:30):
I've always stayed in relationship. I love a relationship. Wait, actually,
you know this.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
This brings me to something because I know we're going
to get out of here soon because I'm hot.

Speaker 5 (01:15:41):
I don't know about you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
I'm hot, but we do. We play a little game
on our show with guests, and I would love to
play it with you. It's called Trigger, and I'm going
we're gonna learn a little bit about Queen a fool
really quickly that I'm and maybe dive into a little
bit of that. So the purpose of the game is
I'm going to say a word, and then you say
the first thing that comes to your mind.

Speaker 5 (01:16:02):
Don't overthink it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
I can't even get ready. I can't get little spie.
I'm gonna let you know, might get a little spicy. Okay,
let you know now you must ready, Okay. Religion, freedom, feminism, power, birth, now, motherhood,

(01:16:27):
you love, language, hugs, cannabis, I don't do it.

Speaker 5 (01:16:35):
Psychedelics this room.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
That's what we're going for.

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
Black man power, white man suppression, favorite food, grapes, guilty, pleasure.

Speaker 7 (01:16:52):
Africa, home, porn, porn, I don't even have.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
Porn.

Speaker 5 (01:17:13):
First thing that comes to mind, that's a good one.

Speaker 4 (01:17:25):
Why is that? That's the whole thing. I gotta think
about that. Why did I.

Speaker 8 (01:17:28):
Scream open relationship with self, love me, pussy power, yoni, egg,
after life, tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (01:17:51):
Do what death?

Speaker 8 (01:17:54):
There go?

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
Self care, us semen, retention, Oh you know how to
get me at different levels?

Speaker 4 (01:18:07):
But celebrated. Why don't I remember all.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
You remember?

Speaker 5 (01:18:14):
Human?

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
Biggest accomplishment writing having children?

Speaker 4 (01:18:21):
Witch, rich children?

Speaker 1 (01:18:23):
No witch, just a witch, the witch? Witch?

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
W I t c oh.

Speaker 4 (01:18:30):
Wish? What do I wish with witch?

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
Like like a witch?

Speaker 4 (01:18:34):
Doctor? Oh? Oh, medicine, pet peeve, pet peeve. I'm trying
to find the words for it, because it's it's social media.
When women talk about you, you can't talk back, dating, dating, rest.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
Monogamy, ancient polyamory, ancient idle, the mosag, bad choices, relationships, therapy,

(01:19:17):
green juice. That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
I survived you.

Speaker 4 (01:19:28):
I have a thing about triggers because this is the
generation of everyone has a trigger, right, Everyone's triggered. And
I said, you know what the triggers. The trigger is
a gun. So if you say that you triggered me,
that means you shot me, and then I've got to
shoot you back. There's a point where you can heal
up enough to you'll have any more triggers.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
Nothing can bother you. So it feels like a womb.

Speaker 4 (01:19:49):
You're just okay, like that's your choice, that's your thinking. Yeah, okay,
you know what I have done with the trigger, and
people I didn't know I was doing it. There was
something would say something. I'm just always say it was
a heavy dressat okay, got it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
I got it.

Speaker 4 (01:20:06):
And that was me not being judgmental just by saying
but people said, what does that mean? I said, well,
you know, it's just I'm just taking an information.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
I feel that sometimes it's better to just say nothing.
So at the beginning of our show, we asked Queen
to pull a card.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
Oh wait, before we pull a card, do you have
an affirmation for us today?

Speaker 5 (01:20:27):
We recited it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
Oh, that's that your affirmation was one of them.

Speaker 4 (01:20:29):
I have one more show one. This is what I've
been saying for seventeen years because of my granddaughter, onto Net.
She was three years old when it came through her
to me. And that is the power to heal is
within me, and I have the mighty power to heal myself.

Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
The power to heal is within me, and I have
the mighty power to heal myself.

Speaker 4 (01:20:56):
And I put that to everything, no matter what it
looks like, I can heal myself. I can overcome.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
That's from your granddaughter.

Speaker 4 (01:21:03):
Well, she was three years old and the family was
fighting around food around her and she was crying inside.
Did you know the inside cried? You look at someone's
face and I said, come to my center. I said,
sit down, let's meditate. Now. She didn't know what I'm doing.
Sit down across her legs. I said, let's go in
and let's breathe. And after her breathing and relaxing because

(01:21:24):
she was sad. I said, how do you feel now
after a meditation? I don't even know what the meditation was,
but she said, hm, I feel powerful. And I said, oh,
the powdery healer is within you and you have the
mighty power to heal yourself. And from that point on,
I've been saying that affirmation every day to my client.

Speaker 5 (01:21:45):
That's beautiful, beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:21:48):
And the three the three year old just realize that
three year.

Speaker 4 (01:21:52):
Old numbers and you Lloyd straight out were talking about that. Wow.
I mean being with you all there is an adventure.
I feel like I've been up the mountain.

Speaker 2 (01:22:06):
Down the bun Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:22:09):
I'm glad.

Speaker 1 (01:22:10):
We're such a mental workout, you know. I saw I
see your workouts on Instagram. I know that movement is
even in our school in Tantra, and I think in
just the schools of spirituality is movement is always at
the center of it. You have to and that's actually
that's when I got this download too. I hadn't moved
my body in a few days, and then I went

(01:22:30):
to movement and it was like, and that is why
I've been honoring that movement since I've not stopped moving
every day. I'm committed and this is a big commitment,
but I feel like I can do it. And I
have three hundred and sixty five days of movement. And
whether that is a walk, whether that is a stretch, yes,
Like it doesn't have to be a big thing, but
I know that I have to do that for myself

(01:22:53):
to keep my intuition impeccable.

Speaker 5 (01:22:57):
And to keep myself healthy and.

Speaker 1 (01:22:59):
Happy, you know, and feeling like grounded in my sacred womanness.
So you said second woman has a T shirt sacred
woman is you.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
Might need to make that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
Oh that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
That's it. Okay, you can take it.

Speaker 8 (01:23:15):
You can take it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
Do you want to collaborate? We can make this happen,
you know what.

Speaker 3 (01:23:21):
Even because we're in school and like the style of
tanser that we're studying is Tibetan, an ancient Tibetan tantrums.
But our school is owned by a black woman from Detroit. Actually,
but the studies and when I've realized, like we as people,
we equate medicine so much with like these Western medicines
of really drugs, narcotics, but the true medicine is all

(01:23:44):
the things that we have access to right here. And
it's like it's the same, it's all the same principles.
Even opening your book is movement, it's meditation, it's breathwork.
It's like, you know, moving if it's whether it's dance,
whether it's yoga. And I'm like, damn, you know we
are so we're I'm so confused about what medicine really is.
Is that we will take a foreign drug from a

(01:24:06):
person we don't know because they're wearing a white coat,
versus taking the time to think, you know, sit down
and you know.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
What does my body want?

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
It's telling me you chan't a mantra. That seems so crazy,
like and I'm like, rom if everybody be like, what
is wrong with her?

Speaker 5 (01:24:20):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:24:20):
What they do it in the church, I mean it's
always music is always accompanying our spiritual development. So definitely movement.
Even in the church, they are moving and rocking with
the tambourine. So do all of the spiritual practice in
all the spiritual houses. There is movement. There is motion,
but there's a movement without movement, and that is when
you shift your thinking. That movement even to do that,

(01:24:44):
you know, shift your attitude. How you see life. That's
a movement.

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
I will add that to my three hundred and sixty.

Speaker 4 (01:24:50):
You will add that, and you could do that.

Speaker 5 (01:24:52):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:52):
Thank you. Well.

Speaker 3 (01:24:55):
Before we started the show, we had you choose a card. Okay,
so we'd like to wait till the end to read
the card. And this card is the Star, and it
means hope, faith, purpose, renewal, and spirituality. The Star card
shows a naked woman kneeling at the edge of a
small pool. She holds two containers of water, one in

(01:25:19):
her left hand, the subconscious, and one in her right
the conscious. She pours the water out to nourish the
earth and to continue the cycle of fertility, represented by
the lush greenery around her. The other container pours the
water onto dry land. In five revolts representing the five senses,
the woman has one foot on the ground, representing her

(01:25:41):
practical abilities and good common sense, and the other foot
in the water, representing her intuition and inner resources and
listening to her inner voice. She is naked, representing her
vulnerability and purity under the vastness, one large star representing
her core essence, and seven small your stars representing the chakras.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
Wow as if we were every where, every word, every
it never fails.

Speaker 3 (01:26:10):
As the star follows the tower card in tarot, it
comes as a welcome reprieve after a period of destruction
and turmoil. You have endured many challenges and stripped yourself
bare of any limiting beliefs that have previously held you back.
You're realizing your core essence who you are beneath all
the layers. No matter what life throws your way, you

(01:26:31):
know that you are always connected to the divine and
pure loving energy. You hold a new sense of self,
a new appreciation for the core of your being. The
star brings renewed hope and faith in a sense that
you are truly blessed by the universe. You're entering a peaceful,
loving phase in your life, filled with calm energy, mental stability,

(01:26:53):
and more in depth understanding of both yourself and others
around you. This is a time of significant personal growth,
growth and development, as you're now ready to receive the
many blessings of the universe.

Speaker 4 (01:27:05):
Did you all give me a read of the day
all praises.

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
The most high?

Speaker 4 (01:27:12):
Oh wow, thank you? That exactly where I am. I mean,
I'm actually shifting sacred women as we speak and I
for fourteen days, I was asking for the channel. I said,
Most High, guide me, show me how is this to do?

Speaker 1 (01:27:27):
And this.

Speaker 4 (01:27:29):
Great awakening. I woke up at six in the morning
and I spoke to five women based on sacred women
in the rights of passage. And so this is the
time I go back to the three day retreat, and
I haven't done a sacred retreat on that level since
two thousand and one. And so they'll come to wherever
I am in Atlanta will be and then they'll go

(01:27:53):
for the twelve weeks. But it will be different than
it has been in the past. And it will allow
me to have more contemplative time, meditative time, because when
I write, I write and run. I'm running and writing.
You know, everything is always you know clock, you know,
like that. But I'm getting ready into a whole nother
era of my reality. And I'm so grateful and this

(01:28:15):
you have the opening of the way. I must say.
I wanted to say it earlier. Your Ost and never had.

Speaker 2 (01:28:21):
Ost.

Speaker 4 (01:28:22):
The Great Mother in your a composite. That's why there's
so much greatness that comes from the two of your pylons,
literally of gateways. Os is the great Mother and she
comes in and out according to who needs what. Neverthead
is her sacred sister, helper of the spiritual realm. There's

(01:28:43):
a story behind that won't take the time, but inside
of sacred and what makes sacred work is because of
us and neverthead sister to sister on the same path,
going in the same direction to heal themselves. And you
all coming together helps you to birth in some amounts.
When I first sat down and said, you'll have a book,
you said, well, it actually is coming out in the

(01:29:05):
spurring all the summer, so that that birthday and you're
seeking each other. It's like thousands of years have come
and gone and you found each other. And that's the
spirit of sacred woman. And and I put the book
in my bag. Let me take the book with me,
like it's like here's the Bible.

Speaker 2 (01:29:23):
We got, we got each I want you sign.

Speaker 4 (01:29:26):
I will so have a book signing moment. Don't worry, No,
don't worry. You're in la.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
Yeah, we're right around the barn stuff for you.

Speaker 4 (01:29:36):
I got some gifts for you. So I'm going to
give you all my spirits said, I'm going to give
you all the wood killed love kid.

Speaker 2 (01:29:42):
Thank you. Thank you, and I really hope to join
the Sacred Woman, uh, the love party.

Speaker 4 (01:29:51):
That's what I'm saying. That's why you're gonna give you
the gear. You see, we are our intuition is just bouncing.

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
Off these and walls, and it's beautiful, it is.

Speaker 4 (01:30:03):
It's so wonderful, you know. And that when I first came,
I kept laughing as I'm coming, I'm laughing but trying
to keep it cool because I felt my energy and
your energy. I said, what kind of mo sign? This
is something else there just like me. It looks different,
but there's a there's a part that I connect to
in the two of you, and I'm just so ecstatic

(01:30:26):
about it. That's how to get my door, I said,
just just feel the vibe. I don't know what you
might pick up. All right, we're here, You're here, wall
here together. That's the magic of life. Life is so
magical and so misty. It's not just pain and agony
and doubt and fear. There's another level and it's a frequency.

(01:30:48):
I'm gonna give you allttimate tune up, and the next
seven days I'm give you attiminate tune up, and I'm
gonna just read your frequency real quick, and I'm just okay,
now I'll do this. Boom bam boom boom boom.

Speaker 5 (01:30:57):
I'm like a gas I'm great.

Speaker 4 (01:31:00):
You just gave me to read of life. I said this,
that and the third I said, oh really, oh that's true. Okay,
I was confirming as you was talking. So I've got
to give it back. You know. It's just you know,
when you're gifted, give a give a gift, you know,
so we can all elevate together.

Speaker 2 (01:31:15):
Keep giving. It's a circle. It's a circle of giving
and receiving.

Speaker 3 (01:31:20):
And I'm so grateful for you, for you coming down
here and hanging out with us and chatting with us
and giving us all your amazing advice and just spending
time with us and holding space.

Speaker 2 (01:31:31):
I appreciate you, you.

Speaker 4 (01:31:32):
Wise women, you other wise women. Thank you, and you're
better together than a part. So no matter what you
may go through in life, stay together and grow grow
each other because you have the history of the stories,
and you can remind each other and you can support
and help each other. And you've done it already because
your circle is getting bigger and others who have the
same stories are coming in for the healing, for this,

(01:31:55):
and then the book is happening. You know, when you
get to the book, that's a big feet. So much
as you think you're working. Now, oh my gosh, take
that deep breath, because it's gonna be about to be
so on even more, just more is coming to you.
More blessings are coming to you, and people will You'll
come into a town and there will be hundreds and

(01:32:15):
hundreds of women, not only because of social media, but
because of the work that you've done, and they'll open
up a page and they'll hear your story and they'll
be transformed by you. Thank you, Thank you to the
literary work.

Speaker 9 (01:32:29):
Describe works definitely, and uh my little cancers, right, can
you what are you?

Speaker 5 (01:32:41):
Scorpio?

Speaker 4 (01:32:42):
Scorpion? Okay? All that water Okay, so y'all are just
bathing in the water.

Speaker 3 (01:32:47):
Okay, tonight's a full moon and cancer. I'm gonna prepare
the baths for the whole family.

Speaker 4 (01:32:53):
To prepare the whole bath for the whole family.

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
And everybody gets a bathroom.

Speaker 4 (01:32:58):
All right. That's the Great Mother talking.

Speaker 5 (01:33:04):
Thank you, queen. Where can our people find you?

Speaker 1 (01:33:07):
And on all your platforms and all your discovery boxes,
all your things, or just go to queenfood dot com.

Speaker 4 (01:33:15):
Okay, the whole world. And also I'm going to be
doing something this afternoon. Just I'm gonna talk about you
a little bit. It's wombcare Love dot Com. It's my
first time really officially coming on the I G Growing
that baby. My daughter said, well, why aren't you coming
on the I G of boom Kill Love. I said,

(01:33:37):
today's day. I have my face a beach on and
so I'm going to share. I'm gonna share this moment.
So thank you for you, you know, opening the way
for me to be here any time.

Speaker 5 (01:33:53):
Please.

Speaker 4 (01:33:53):
It's such a treat. Oh my gosh. Well, you know
when I give you, that's what I'm gonna do. When
I give you your your kid, your womb kill Love
Kid with your woom Food, jew Love with your womb
killed Love, super Food with your woombkle Love, Pink Roast Clay,
and this, that and the third, and I put all
that in some little special gifts in there. I want

(01:34:15):
you to open it up for everyone. Is absolutely absolutely
take out your steps.

Speaker 5 (01:34:20):
Oh girl, we gonna do a whole.

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
A whole by word, thank you, no worries. I can't
wait to guess who I'm friends with like, what she's
saying the queen.

Speaker 1 (01:34:33):
I actually told my daughters, I said, I'm interviewing a
queen today. She's like a queen, like a real queen.
I was like, yep, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:34:39):
Luna was like, can I wear pajama's the office? I
was like, no, the queen is coming.

Speaker 4 (01:34:45):
But she said, the princess is here, old princess. She's
all girl.

Speaker 5 (01:34:50):
Oh my god. Well, you guys, I guess we're gonna
end it here. I love you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:34:54):
You know where to find us on Good Mom's Underscore,
Bad Choices on Instagram, good Moms by Choices dot com.
Because we got a website and she you guys, go
visit it. Join our newsletter. We are constantly launching new retreats.
Please follow our retreat page at the Good Vibe Retreat
and join us. If this was your calling to say

(01:35:16):
I need to make a change, I need to say yes,
I need to shift, join us on the next retreat.
It's some beautiful women's circle work, womb healing going on
in the jungles and we would love to have you.

Speaker 1 (01:35:27):
Yes, We're going to Mexico in July and I cannot
wait to share this new space.

Speaker 5 (01:35:33):
With you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:35:33):
You know, me and Mila have only ever done our
retreats in Costa Rica, so this is a new new
energy and new space and I'm really really excited for
these for the first group to come, Like I always
think about our OG Costa Rica group and I'm really excited.
So to meet the OG Mexico group me too.

Speaker 5 (01:35:51):
And I guess that's it.

Speaker 4 (01:35:53):
Bye, love you, Bye.

Speaker 6 (01:36:01):
To yao ellenor j Solo ba record

Speaker 8 (01:36:20):
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