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October 30, 2023 45 mins

Welcome to JoJo Siwa … Now. 

Get to know JoJo Siwa like never before. Dance Moms drama, falling out with friends, going through a rough breakup while on Dancing with the Stars, and how Special Forces changed her life.

JoJo reveals what a day in her life is really like, the real reason the bow is gone … And why you might hear her ex on the podcast!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Joja Sua Now with me Jojo Siua,
an iHeartRadio podcast. Well, the day has finally come. I
have my very own podcast. After years of being in
front of the world, it has been a solid eleven
years now. It's been over a decade that I have
been in the public eye, which is quite crazy when

(00:25):
I when I actually start to think about it, it
really gets put into perspective for me when I see
my old costumes, When I see what nine year old
Jojo was wearing and how tiny it is, I'm like,
how have I been doing this for so long? Anyways,
we're gonna we're gonna talk a bunch about that. We're
gonna recap pretty much a big chunk of my life today.

(00:47):
But first I just want to say I am so
excited to be starting Jojo Sewa. Now. This podcast is
all about my past, meeting my future, and what I
want my future to be and who I am now
because I think the world really got to see me
grow up. But then at some point, I think the
world kind of still visualizes me as a kid, because

(01:11):
that image is still out there in front of the world,
but I am a bit of a different human now
you know, I hit age twenty, and now I got
lots of fun stories. I know, lots of fun things
up my sleeve. But of course everything is always done
with a good heart, with your intention. Everything everything I
try to do is super genuine and super super true

(01:33):
to who I am. You know, I think I truly
did build my whole career off of being exactly who
I am. I never wanted to be a character or
something fake or something phony, And so you know, you
see me as a kid, and you see me that
I was. I was filming videos all day long and
screaming around my candy filled house with rainbow walls, and

(01:54):
wearing these crazy outfits and being seventeen years old wearing
a side pointytail and hairbow. And the thing is is
none of that was fake. None of that was a
persona that I would put on for videos. But I
just didn't show the other side. I didn't show once
the camera's cut. It was me who was editing everything.

(02:15):
It was me who was coming up with the idea
for tomorrow. It was me who was behind it all.
There was never network or management or corporate. Of course,
you know I have a manager, and of course I
was signed to Nickelodeon for the last few years of
my life, the last lot years of my life, but
it was always genuinely from me and from my heart.
And so I think that's something that a lot of

(02:35):
people think about child stars, is that. And I think
this comes from me meeting a lot of child stars
that have been put in a position where they're doing
something they necessarily don't want to do. But for me,
it's the opposite. It's I was always doing exactly what
I wanted to do. I've had such a great support
system around me for years, and so it's cool to

(02:58):
see how I transition from being a kid on Dance
Moms to a YouTuber, to a singer, to now a podcaster,
to a Special Forces recruit to a Dancing with the
Stars X star. I mean, there's so many crazy things
that I've done. And so today I want to take

(03:20):
a trip down memory lane, and take a trip down
future lane, and take a trip down current lane. And well,
my friend from England was just hanging out with me,
and so I've been saying the quote chat shit right
now a bunch. So we're gonna we're gonna chat some shit. Aha,
Let's do it. Me right now. What's going on with

(03:41):
me right now is actually it's quite fun the phase
of life that I'm in right now. Currently it is
October in twenty twenty three. I'm in a very very fun,
confusing phase of my life. I'm about to be twenty
and a half years old, so I'm close to my
twenty first birthday, and i feel like, you know, you

(04:02):
do turn an adult when you're eighteen, but I also
feel like there's a sense of adulthood that comes when
you turn twenty one as well, and so being almost there,
I feel like I'm in this weird phase where I
still feel young, but I'm not quite young anymore. Does
that make sense. I don't know if that makes sense,
but it is what it is. I've been working on
new music for the last year, which has been so

(04:23):
much fun, and it is finally all really coming together
and coming full circle. I truthfully, I have been working
on it since April twenty twenty two, so it's been
over a year that I've been working on, writing, recording, producing,
everything to do with with my new music, and it
is my biggest passion in life and I'm so happy
about it. Also currently is Special Forces has been airing,

(04:46):
which has been so fun. Oh my gosh, getting to
watch Special Forces has been crazy. No, it was one
of the most wild experiences of my life. And I
am going to talk so much about it on this podcast,
give you all this. You know, this is my like
little spoken journal this podcast, and so you're gonna hear
lots and lots, so I don't want to spoil too much.

(05:07):
But finally watching it air and come to life and
see how it's been you know, produced and chopped down
and edited has been crazy because there's so much that happened.
I mean, you were on camera twenty four hours a day.
It's crazy. Special Forces really really was one of the
most wild experiences of my life. Let's go back to
the beginning. My career started when I was nine years old.

(05:27):
I did my first TV show, Abby's Ultimate Dance Competition.
And prior to Abby's Ultimate Dance Competition, I came out
to California a little bit when I was like four.
My mom got me an agent out here. I actually,
people don't know this about me. So when I was little,
I was very I was very different. I was very

(05:47):
I was very smart as a kid, but I was
very witty. I was very quick and I could dance.
I people, I don't know. I'm just I'm just reading
the stories. I don't remember what I was like when
I was little. Bit that so that people tell me
about me when I was little. Anyways, when my mom
brought me out to California WME, which is a massive agency,

(06:08):
they didn't have a kid's department at the time, but
they wanted to create one and they wanted me to
be the first kid ever signed to their agency. And
back in the day, my mom felt like that was
too big of a risk, and so we put me
with an agent that already had a kid's department. And
looking back, knowing how big WM is now that we

(06:32):
understand the industry, it's crazy to think what my life
path could have been or would have been if we
would have taken that opportunity. But I know that it
would be so different than where I am now. So
I am very grateful that everything worked out the way
that it did. So yeah, cut too. I was nine
years old. I was a dance competition kid my whole

(06:53):
life up until nine, and then I still was until
I was about thirteen, did dance competitions. My mom owned
dance studio. Dance was dance was my life. But I knew,
I knew I wanted more. I knew I had more
in me. But you know, I was in Omaha, Nebraska.
It's where I'm from, and so there's it's not much there, right.
And then when I was nine, I did my first
TV show, Abby's Ultimate Dance Competition, and that was I mean,

(07:15):
it was a skype audition. At the time, it wasn't
even zoomo Skype. And yeah, it was like a six
six eight month long audition process, lots of paperwork. The
final audition was in New York. They ended up liking me.
I did season two of the show. It was incredible.
I finished fifth on the show. But I what was

(07:37):
cool about it is the world gravitated towards me. I
had a very large personality as a kid, and I
was not afraid to speak my mind. I was not
afraid to vocalize. I was not afraid to talk and
people people seemed to enjoy that. And so then this
producers of Dance Moms, which is at the time it
was Lifetime's number one show in one hundred and forty

(07:58):
one country. Is a crazy crazy status was dance Moms.
It's the same producers, same network as Abbey's Ultimate Dance Competition,
and so after I did season two of VAT, they
asked me to join Dance Moms in season five. And
originally I was only supposed to be there for a
week actually, and then they ended up enjoying me being
there and joining me as a part of the team,

(08:19):
and so stayed for two and a half years. I
stayed from the time I was eleven to thirteen, and
it's great, you know, I can't complain. I of course
had hard days on Dance Moms, but I had a
lot more good days than I did hard days, and
it's really did shape me to be who I am now,
and who I am now is because of that. It's

(08:43):
a it's a good thing. I laughed, because I just
obviously I did Special Forces and everyone was like, how
are you gonna deal with the ds is yelling at you?
And I was like, the same way I dealt with
Able yelling at me back in the day. And of
course me and everybody laughs about that, but really was true.
I've been trained from a very young age to have
critiques go in one year and straight out the other.

(09:07):
But while letting the information that you need to have
stick in your brain. If that makes sense, which I
think is a bit of a blessing in disguise. You know,
it's it's it's tough. I've gotten to do a lot
of fun things. I got to be on Dancing with
the Stars, I got to be do Special Forces, I
got to do my music, I got to go on
d R a M. The Tour. I feel like every

(09:30):
project that I've done has shaped me in a way.
From smaller projects. I did the Angry Birds movie. I
did a TV show called Celebrity Watch Party, I did
a show called Livesing Bell Shorties to the big projects
you know, Stars Forces, Masked, Singer, Dance Moms, Jose and

(09:51):
My World, my Dream Tour and every everything does really
attribute to who I am today. You know, I have
memories and I've made friends along the way, and I
am a very firm believer is the people that are
around you, you will be a product of them. And
so I'm a very firm believer. And keep your bubble
good because if your bubble is good, you will be good.

(10:14):
And I think that is something that is so important.
If I can give anyone advice, it would it would
It would definitely be that I want to talk past, present,
and future me. That's called the triple P. We should
make that a thing. We should ask people what's their
what's their triple P? Past president? Oh, future is in
f unless we did past, present and future. All right,

(10:36):
So for my past, president and future. Because something about
me is I'm a little bit dyslexic. So I have
this big sheet of questions here and things that I
want to talk about. And it's really fun because my
clearly my p's and f's now apparently I didn't know
that was gonna be one, but my b's and d's.
I get mixed up my ms and n's, my z's

(10:56):
and s's, and my my e's and threes. Uh. You
know letters that are similar, I can get a little confused.
P's and q's are a big one. It's not bad.
I can I can read, I can write so's. It's
nothing that's hard for me to deal with. But if
I'm say I'm writing like a handwritten card to somebody
and I write happy birthday, I will either do it

(11:16):
all in caps or happy would have capital h R
H J P B Y, and then birth would have
a capital B, and then day in birth day, the
D and DA would also have a capital D. Because
my brain doesn't register which way that D er be
supposed to go. It just they look the same. So
we just yeah, we just we lean with Iraq with
a lean with Iraq with it. That's like my life saying, anyways,

(11:41):
my past, present and future, my past me. You know,
I'm going to answer this in a in a bit
of a in a bit of an emotional way. I
don't think my past me felt many emotions, and I
think that my present me is feeling the effects of that.
I think past me took everything and made it positive,

(12:05):
and so now I have this odd Oh God, why
did I get this deep? This is okay. I mean,
we're already down this pass path, so we might as
well just keep going down this path. But I feel
like present me now feels like sometimes I have to
keep that positive outlook, to keep that reputation, which it's

(12:27):
weird because it's not something that I force. But I
tend to not let myself get emotional, or let myself
get sad, or let myself feel things until I do,
and then it is a wrap. The second that I
feel sad I I it takes it takes a lot
to get me there, but once I'm there, it's very
hard for me to come out of it. And so

(12:48):
I think with my future me, I I wanna, I wanna.
I want to find that balance. I want to find
that balance of being able to just feel emotions as
they arise and not bury. You know. I uh uh
Daddy Foxy on Special Forces, which you're going to hear
a bunch of Daddy Foxy stories and you'll hear why
I call him Daddy Foxy. He told me that he said,

(13:09):
suppressing my emotions is not going to be good for me.
And that's the lesson that I did learn on Forces.
I had to get my emotions out, but I'm still
still something that I'm working through and so that's that's uh,
something that I want to work on in my past
president future. Uh. I love my life and I've gotten
to a lot of cool things in my life, especially
related to my career, and I think my future is

(13:32):
going to be really cool. I think my past was
really cool. I have this fun, fun little game that
I like to play in my own brain because four
years ago I did the Masked Singer, which was my
favorite TV show, like of all time, Like I enjoyed
it so much. And two years later, which would be
two years ago, I did Dancing with the Stars, which
was my favorite thing I've ever done in my life.

(13:54):
Oh my god, it past, It's so fun. And now
today I did Special Forces. So I'm kind of questioning.
I'm like, what am I going to do in two
years that will become that next favorite? I don't I
don't know what it'll be. I didn't I didn't expect Stars,
and I didn't expect Forces, and so now and I
also didn't expect mass singers, So I don't know what
she's gonna be, but I am excited for her. Sins

(14:25):
were where I feel like I'm on a I'm on
a path of emotion, which which is fun. And so
I want to talk about my bubble because I do
have a really a really good bubble around me. I
have a really good friends, a really good family, and
I've tried to keep good people in my life, and
I've had to how to learn a lot of life

(14:48):
lessons at a very young age of how to keep
good friendships and to utilize having good people in your
life because good people are really hard to find and
once you find them, you cannot let go of them.
And uh, that's actually something that I am dealing with
right now is I have a really good human in

(15:09):
my life, and I can, I can I can sense that,
you know, I might have to not be your friend anymore.
And that's that's something that's really tough, because once you
have a good person, you don't want to let them go,
and it's so hard. And I've had to do that,
and I've had to do that with actually my two
best friends. With both of them, I had a massive,

(15:33):
massive falling out, didn't speak to them both for months
separate occasions. But they are such good people and they
are such good people for me that they did make
their way back into my life. And I'm a firm
believer in life is gonna happen how it does, and
you have to trust the universe. Miss universe is scary.
Miss universe plays tricks on us. She certainly plays tricks

(15:54):
on me, but you have to trust her because in
the end, you know, you only get this life once.
And whatever you say, whatever you feel, it's okay, and
you're you are able to be who you want to be.
You're able to have the friends that you want to have,
but keep your keep your close people close. You know,
keep your keep your family good, and keep your keep

(16:17):
your friends good. And uh, having people's backs, being honest,
genuine and having their backs speaking of things that are
scary and speaking of things that are good things Special
freaking Forces. Oh my gosh, I'm shifting gears here because
I just love Special Forces so much. It was the
most wild ride of my life. I was away from

(16:40):
my family, was away for my friends. And I'm a
very I mean, as you can probably tell by how
I was just talking about my family and friends. I'm
a very family oriented, friend oriented person and I do
require my people to be able to live. Uh and uh,
Special Forces ripped that away from me. And I'm not
gonna lie. First day I was thrive and I was hiting. Yes,

(17:03):
I got a set and emotional, but like, I was
thriving day one and day two. But then day three
kicked in and I realized, honestly, you'll see this in
a future episode, and it's been in trailers so I
can talk about it. But I do say, like I
wish I could call my mom and just tell her
how much fun there's been and how much pain there's been. Like,

(17:24):
there's been pain, but there's also been a lot of fun.
And that's what I wanted to do. I wanted to
call my friends and be like, Yo, we just ran
down a damn wall like that was insane. I didn't
want to call my friends and be like, oh, we
just did this workout and it sucked. I wanted to
be like, yo, I just belly flopped into the fucking
pitch black ocean ate absolute shit and enjoyed it like
it was awesome. My biggest rush in my life. I

(17:47):
dived backwards off of a helicopter and I just I
don't know. I really missed telling my people the good.
What was cool about Special Forces is the people that
were there became those people for you and we. I
mean it started with fourteen of us, and I won't
spoil it, but all of us really have become such

(18:07):
a family because we all share the same experience. And yes,
you can watch it, but you can't feel it and
you can't smell it, and you can't understand the time
of what it really really was. You know, like you
see us doing that driving challenge, right, every person that
did the driving task, it was about twenty five minutes,

(18:28):
and so those of us, I mean, I think I
went like fifth or sixth. You're just chilling in the
woods for a couple hours, you know, and then after
you pass the test, it's another however long until the
next person comes, and so you're just you're chilling and
you all have that bond that we can understand that
we can share stories about it. And there's so much
that goes on behind the scenes of Special Forces that

(18:49):
you don't see because it's not even behind the scenes,
just gets edited out because it's twenty four hours a day.
And so you know, when you're taking twenty four hours
and making it a forty two minute episode where you
have to share fourteen individual storylines while sharing the group storyline,
while sharing the tasks, while sharing the DS's storylines, while

(19:10):
sharing a few duo storylines, you know, it's a lot,
and so a lot gets cut down and cut edited out.
So for us to be able to share those stories
is it's truly a blessing. And I'm very, very grateful
for my fellow recruits. They have become my family. Special
Forces for me was a massive life changer. Another project

(19:33):
for me that was a massive life changer was Dancing
with the Stars. It was the first ever same sex
couple to be on Dancing with the Stars, and that
meant a lot, as as it would I had just
come out. It was in the same year that I
came out, And I mean I came out when I
was I was seventeen, and I didn't understand at the
time what a big deal that was. I didn't understand

(19:56):
why that was scary. Now that I'm not much I'm
only three years older. But I look back and I think,
oh my god, I'm three years older than when I
came out. That's terrifying. It feels like that was yesterday. Seesh,
Oh my god, that's that's wild. But I literally I
remember I was on the phone with my girlfriend at
the time and I was like, I think I want

(20:16):
to come out to the world, and she was like, okay,
do it. So then I goes to this picture and
I threw it on my Instagram story and that's how
I confirmed it. And it was it was just like that,
and I didn't think twice about it. And then you know,
of course, there was a lot of positivity and a
lot of love and acceptance, but then there was also
a lot of negativity and I did lose a lot

(20:36):
and I didn't care. I still don't care the things
that I lost and the people that I lost, and
if I lost a chunk of fans, because it's you know,
it's who I am. It goes back to I created
my career off of being genuine. And if you didn't
like me because on January whatever, I was straight and
on January the next day I was gay, then you

(20:59):
know what I meant to like me? And uh, I
don't know. I just try to really really be genuine,
really be who I am, because you can. Only little
little me said I saw this in a video. It
was like, what's the best advice you could give somebody?
And it was like, be yourself because if you're not yourself,
then eventually you're gonna have to like break being your
fake self and like no one wants to deal with that.

(21:21):
That's that's what like my little kid advice was. So
I'm gonna I'm gonna take your advice and run with it. Uh. Anyways, though,
Dancing of the Stars was right after I came out,
and it was incredible, I mean it was It actually
was some of the hardest days of my life emotionally
as hard as uh Special Forces was Dens with the

(21:42):
Stars on week three. Between Week three and week four
is I went through my first real breakup. You know,
I had I had dated a man, I had a
boyfriend of those who of you who didn't know, but
that sadness of that breakup lasted one night and then
it was done. However, with my first girlfriend, when we
broke up, I was very, of course devastated. It was

(22:04):
my choice, but I was. I was still very devastated,
of course, and so going through that while being on
Dancing with the Stars was a blessing, but it was
also a curse because I was super distracted and I
had something to do every single day. But then at
the same time, I was so emotionally exhausted because I'm

(22:25):
going through something that I never had to want to
go through, and of course it's it's the course of life.
And now being a little bit older, I'm like, yeah,
you have to go through that in life. But I
remember my Dancing with the Stars partner, Jenna, she was
the best support system she for so many reasons, I've
had a lot of confidence issues in my life, and

(22:47):
I think it comes a little bit from being in
the dance world. I think it comes a little bit
from being in the public eye and nothing, nothing that's beyond.
But I Jenna, for me, really broke me out of
my shell and she really made me feel comfortable in
my own skin. And there was days where I would
have to call her and she told me, if you

(23:08):
were ever feeling a certain way about yourself, call me
and just show me a mirror and I will know
what to tell you. And I remember I did it
one day, and she she got me through it. And
she she's the best human ever. And we we freaking
made some history. We didn't win Dancing with the Stars,
but we did make some history. Some of the dances
she created, I mean, body language was just I mean

(23:28):
it's iconic, and Sandy and Frenchy dance, Penny Wise are
all both of our Argentine tangos. Everything. It's fun for
me actually to watch Dancing with the Stars because I
see how I started episode one. You know, I got
the purple glitter in my hair and a crazy colorful costume,
and then you know, you see episode two and it's like, Okay,

(23:50):
she has like a little color in her hair, but
it's more rhinestones than you see episode three, and I
put like fine gold glitter in my hair, but my
costumes like a little bit hotter. And then it's like
episode four. Okay, episode before I was Prince Charming and
freaking descendants. We can't count episode four. But then boom,
episode five hit and it was like what who? That

(24:10):
was Sandy and Frenchy, and then after that it was
Penny Wise, and then after that it was body language
and it was like, Oh, that's a woman. It's not
a kid anymore, that's a woman. And that was a
really cool That was a really cool way for me
to grow up on Dancing with the Stars, and I
think that started my grow up process, and then I
think Special Forces kind of finished it. I feel like
I definitely went into Special Forces one way and came

(24:30):
out another. I love the human that I went in before,
but I am proud of the human that I came
out of. And obviously you haven't seen all of Special
Forces yet, so I can't really go into too much
detail about everything that I went through. But what I
can't say is that I'm so proud of that journey

(24:52):
and I'm just ah could talk about Forces for years
and I could talk about Stars for years there. I
always have this joke. I'm like, what if they did
Forces All Stars and Dancing with the Stars All Stars
at the same time and I had to pick one. Ah,
I couldn't do it, so I would I would tell Jenn.
I'd be like, look, Jen, we're doing both. I'm gonna
get you on Special Forces even though you haven't done
it yet. We're gonna do it All Stars and you're
gonna be on it. And uh, we're gonna well rehearse

(25:15):
Standing with the Stars in the middle of night. We're
doing both shows. We will be at the freaking Recruits
by day and DWTS by night. Oh okay, let me see,
let me see. I Uh, you can't see it. But
I have this list of things that I wanted to
talk about today, and the next thing on my list
is what it's like being uh in the public guy

(25:38):
and living in the public eye. For me, it's kind
of all I know, which is scary if you think
about it too much. Uh, but then it's awesome if
you don't think about it too much. And so I
I have my days where I do think about it,
and I have my moments that are like what nothing

(25:59):
is just for me. And I really didn't experience that
until I started dating, and I realized that if I
go on a date, it's me girl that I'm with
and everybody else, and it is it is, it is,
it is. It's not me and a partner, it is
not it's it's me and Legitia quadrillium. Like it is. However,

(26:21):
many people are there and the staring people don't even
you don't really realize that you're staring, and people don't
do it on purpose, and even if people aren't asking
for photos or videos or anything, which I love and
I would never ever say no to or deny or
be angry about, but you know, you have to deal
with being at a dinner date and everyone's watching you.
Everyone's watching your every single move. And I'm used to it.

(26:43):
But then once I realized, once I started dating, that
my partners aren't used to it, and so that kind
of became something that I had to learn how to juggle.
And same thing in friendships. Now I kind of realize, like, look,
if you become friends with me, kind of know what
you're getting yourself into. And I'm very lucky because I'm
a very good group of friends around me who I
love and ador so much, and I would do literally

(27:03):
anything for some of the cool things about being in
the public eye. You can go anywhere and have a
good time. You really can. And it's funny the good
times that I've had and the funny stories that I
can tell. And you know, people want to become your friend,
and people want to be fun and people want to
be nice to you, and people want to hype you up.
Of course, you know, there's the negative here and there,

(27:25):
but it's just such a fun life. I get to
do a lot of really cool things because of the
life that I live. I get to go on a
lot of cool trips. I do a lot of brand
deals I do. I get to meet a lot of
really cool people. I've gotten to have some of the
coolest people become my friends. I mean, one of my
fellow recruits is good friends with John Mayor. Kelly Rizzo
is very good friends with John Mayor, and I love

(27:47):
John Mayor. If I'm having a day, he can call
me down by his music. And so she had to
make a video for me, and she was telling me
the story of how she asked him. He was like,
you know, Jojas, you and John Mayer was like, yeah,
of course, and like the fact that that's a thing,
Like how the fact that Miley cyrus knew who I was?
How how did my le like that? Stuff like that

(28:08):
just like blows my mind. So I think that's it's
probably my favorite part about being in the public eye
is like the cool people. I don't fan girl, but
like IL for a few people. I wanted to dive

(28:28):
a little bit more into my my, my relationship world.
I feel like I should have an X on this podcast.
That would be so interesting, that'd be so intriguing. I
don't know if any of them would be down. I
don't know if I would be down. That seems like
a bad idea. Never mind, never mind anyways, Uh, relationships

(28:49):
for me have been the hardest thing navigating the public eye.
I mean I've navigated growing up. I've navigated small things
of getting new teeth to big things of cutting my hair.
Those are both physical things. I guess losing one vocal
cord is something that I had to deal with in
the public guy, that's something that's that's no, that's still physical.
I don't know. I've had to deal with mental things too.
I've had to deal with oh, like, I mean, like

(29:11):
I've had to deal with a lot of mental things
my I do. I snapchat almost every day, and this
was out a phase where I was doing it strictly
every day and my dad passed away. And he he
passed away in a in a pretty brutal way. He
was a baby puppy, he was about four months old
and got attacked by a coyote. And I remember that
day being like, I need to snapchat, but I can't.

(29:32):
I was so sad. And There's been lots of days
like that where I am like, got it, but I can't,
and you just have to flip it on. Today I
was it was it was. It was the crack of dawn.
It was a crack of dawn. I dropped my front
off at the airport at five point fifteen in the morning.
Sun wasn't now yet. I'm dropping her off and I'm sobbing.

(29:53):
I'm an emotional wreck. When I get to air hurts.
I can't do him. I hate the a worn airport.
It was a mess and dropping her off and I'm
crying and she's comforting me, obviously because I'm sad and
she's sad too, and I hear all my way. Oh
my god, your journalsy and I was like, oh I
move it together quickt Hi, nice to meet you. And

(30:13):
of course I took a picture with her, which was
really sweet. And then I go back to being side
with my friend and literally five seconds later another person
came out to me was like, oh my god, Jonasy,
what can we take a picture? Of course, of course absolutely,
But like having the ability to snap in and out
really quick is something that's, uh, that's interesting. I don't
know why I started going on that tangent. Something about

(30:35):
public relationships. Oh, I relationships are hard to navigate. They
are so hard to navigate as it is, and then
you put the public figure in it, and then you
put the lesbian in it, and it is just a mess.
But it's entertaining. I will say my love life is
very entertaining. It keeps my people entertained, keeps my family entertained,
It keeps myself entertained. And I'm very busy and I

(30:57):
do have my priority straight and so I I tend
to not let it really override me, but it is.
It is pretty intense. Now there's something that everyone wants
to know. This is something that everyone asks me about
Oh my god, I actually have a funny story about this.
So this is a good segue for me to talk

(31:19):
about this. Being in the public eye, people do come
up to me a lot. I was just talking about
that with the airport experience, and you know, sometimes it's
like comedion times and other times it's you know, in bathrooms.
But just the other day, I was somewhere and I
was walking around and I am now twenty years old.
I've not stuck a hair bow in my hair for
two years now. Nothing against the hair bow, I just

(31:40):
haven't worn it. And I still love them. I still
love jojobos. I love what jojobo's mean, I love what
they stand for. I love my past of wearing them
every day. I still sometimes stick little bows in anyways,
it's been a long two years. I haven't worn one.
And walking around in this girl goes, oh my god,
are you jojo with the bobo? And I turned around
and I was like, yeah, you did not just jojo

(32:01):
with the bobo me. She just jojo with the bobo me.
And that kind of became a thing. I was like,
I just got jojo with the bobo. I just got
Because people used to say that all the time to me,
oh my god, you're joje with the bobo, like that
became a thing. But I was twenty years old walking
around somewhere with like cool friends and secure jojo with
the bobo was like fucking hell, Oh god, I'm always
gonna be this bokend, aren't I? And uh, I'm not

(32:22):
mad about it. The jojovo is something that I love. Uh,
there are so many different jojobos. I think the meaning
behind the jojobo is my favorite part about it. You know,
if you see somebody with a jojo bo on which
is a big old hair boat with a little silvery
tag on the right ribbon, right bottom ribbon, if you're
at school and you have no one said with that lunch,

(32:44):
if you're in a jojobo, you're a seaminader and you
will be nice to everybody, and you will accept everybody,
be kind to everybody. And so if you're alone and
you see someone with the jojobo and you know that
you can go sit by them because they will welcome you,
or if you have no one to play with that
recess and so that's something I'm makes me really proud.
I came up with that when I was I would
have been twelve, and so like that's now being twenty

(33:08):
and seeing a twelve year old you and I have
my girl group exmg pop and like seeing that age,
seeing that I created that at that age, makes me
really proud of my baby's self. Yeah. Church of Bills
are great. There's so many cool ones. Oh my god.
I found one that was like Army the other day.
I was like, oh special Forces bo. There was my
friend whened one with a unicorn on it for her

(33:29):
niece and I was like, uh, all right, girl, I
got like five thousand free to pick from. A unicorn
is very we got. We got a lot of thazons,
but big, pick your poison, Pick your poison. Think for me,
the thing with the bow is, honestly, I didn't. Everyone
would always ask me. They'd be like, was when when's
the bobo gonna go go? Like that was a thing
that was a thing that people from my mom asked me,

(33:52):
to corporate asked me, Nickelodeon asked me. They and something
that I even asked myself, and of course something that
social media ants would ask me. And uh, the honest
answer was I didn't know. I have no I had
no idea and I'm like I said, I'm a firm
believer in life just takes its course and we just
got to lean with a rock with it, and so
kind of the same thing with the jojo bo I. Uh.

(34:13):
I woke up. It was the day after my eighteenth
birthday and I literally was like, I don't I don't
want to wear it today. And my mom was like, okay,
so so so dope, and I was like, all right,
that feels right. And then about like four months later,
as when I did Dancing with the Stars, and uh,

(34:34):
it was the first time that somebody had asked me this.
I did my master interview, which was like, you know,
the big interview that you see before the first episode airs,
and so doing the Master interview and I go and
they asked. They said, well, you were a side ponytail
and bow and at first I was like, nah, I
don't do that anymore. And then they were like, but
we we really want that iconic jojo look, and I

(34:57):
kind of realized. I was like, wait, this isn't this
isn't a bad thing. It's not a bad thing to
be eighteen and we're a bo who cares. It's who
I am, It's it's what I it's what I am.
And and so I said yes, And I was like,
I actually, you know what, you know what, I will
stick the thing in my head. I absolutely will. And
so I wore so I pot tell them both that
day and it kind of was comforting, like I was like,

(35:17):
I like, I like this, Like it felt like, all right,
I don't have to think about how I'm doing my
hair today. Uh but yeah, I mean I got nothing
against the bow. I love it. I always will. Yeah,
she's myice, She's my little she's my little smell. You know,
Jojovo can't complain about her. We love her. If you've
stuck along with me this far feel like I need

(35:38):
to do like a coat, like if you've stuck along
with me this far go comment on my most recent
Instagram post, penguins anyways, my life now? All right, my
life now day in the life it consists, I wake up,
I work out. Actually that's the life. I wake up,
I make a free workout, I work out, then I
eat breakfast. Then I normally will shower, i'lln't really get red.

(36:01):
Then typically in a day, I try to do one
like really fun activity for me, whether that's surfing, whether
that's under skydiving, whether that's dancing. I try to make
something in my day be like a hardcore, fun, fun moment. Typically,
my day will have some sort of computer work, whether
that's editing a video for social media, applying to emails,

(36:23):
creating graphics, creating posts, whatever it may be. There's always
some sort of computer work. And then I will try
to make sure my life is organized every day, whether
that's my room, my car, my closet, whatever it is
to be organized, I will. I will put all my
things together. And then I try to also do something

(36:43):
meaningful with my family every day. And that's something that
I wanted to change after I did Special Forces. Prior
to Special Forces, you couldn't pay me to go to dinner.
I like to be home. I like to not go out.
And so now I'm really in a position where I'm like, Nah,
you want to go to dinner, let's freaking go. So
we'll do dinner, we'll do we'll do movie nights. Well, well,

(37:03):
we have fun, we have a we have a really
good time. Yeah, that's pretty much pretty much for Dafe.
Every day is different. Every day is different than Budjam
is still the same. Every day I alway saying let's
go win the game. I feel like I need to
wake up and like listen to Driam. I feel like
that should be my alarm clock. I feel like that
would really start my day right on the right foot.
I'm actually gonna I think I'm gonna. I think I'm

(37:24):
gonna do that tonight. Music for me has been a
massive part of my life. From my first song, which
is actually called I Can Make a Dance. Everyone thinks
it's Boomerang. Technically it was I Can Make a Dance. Anyways,
we wiped that song from the internet, and then Boomerang
became my first song. Uh yeah, Boomerang started it all off.

(37:44):
And I'm so proud of that song. I'm so proud
of the meaning of that song. I'm so proud that
kids are still just now discovering that song. You know,
my best friend has a baby who's about to turn
two years old, and uh, she likes Boomerang and she
likes Jojo Bobo show show, and so she is having
a Jojo theme second birthday party. And I'm like, Boomerang
came out, like your age quadrupled ago, how is this possible?

(38:07):
And it's cool to me. You know these these kids
are just now discovering old jojo and that's kind of why,
you know, I want to have that still live because
that is such a great thing for kids. You know,
my my, my old music. Can a Candy Store Hold
the Drama Ever goes a Supergirl Boomerang, dre Eam Time

(38:29):
to celebrate Worldwide Party. All the messages behind those songs
are so strong that you don't even really realize it.
You know, can Candy Store talks about how life is
so great and you have to live at like Kendey
Candy Store. Dar Eam talks about how you know life
is a dar eam and we get one every girls.

(38:50):
A Supergirl talks about how we're all different, but every
single one of us is a superhero. Uh. A Worldwide
Party is about how there's so many different races, languages, sexualities,
there's so many different religions. But at some point, one heart,
one beat, Worldwide Party, and that really, you know what,

(39:11):
I'm realizing that doesn't rhyme at all. One Heart, one beat,
Worldwide Party. When you sing it, it rhymes, but when you
say it, it sounds so stupid. But anyways, uh, yeah, I
don't know those songs. The songs have such important meaning
to me. Now my music, you know, it's more adult.
I can't tell you what it's all called yet. And
I have a lot of music done, but it it's

(39:34):
fun because it's music throughout stories in my life. You know.
I have some songs that are the most aggressive songs
that I wrote, but they're about something from when I
was thirteen or fourteen. Or I have a song that
is like so young and kiddie, but that's a song
from now you know what I mean. It's like, it's
it's crazy, how like different stories in my life have

(39:54):
become songs that I write. Ooh, there's a rhyme different
stories in my life. Those are the songs I write.
That is a freaking bar and we all know it.
Thank you. We're gonna fucking what do we copyright? We're
gonna copyright that anyways. But no, the new music has
been so fun to make. Taking Writing about love is fun.

(40:14):
Write about love is fun, Writing about heartbreak is fun.
Writing about being done dirty is fun. Like it's it's fun,
it's entertaining, and it feels like electrifying. I don't know,
I love it. I really do speak about things that
I love. Today is actually my favorite holiday. Well, now
we're gonna call it my favorite holiday. I do really

(40:35):
love Christmas, but I really love Halloween. I don't know
why I always have as a kid. I actually I
have a tattoo and my tattoo is one thy thirty
one and it has a lot of meanings. First meeting
is I have the tattoo design, so it's a straight line,
then the O three and then a straight line and
the OH three represents A the year that I was born,

(40:56):
and b the O three also represents my number one
special force. I was recreiting number three and then one
thy thirty one is how many days my first concert tour,
Driam the tour was and the reason why I have
it on this ear is because that's the idear that
I wore on that tour. Final meeting of it is
happy Halloween. And of course now this is no time

(41:19):
like the present to release Jojo Cima now first ever podcast.
I'm so excited. So satoo has a lot of meaning
behind it. Halloween for me is my favorite, my favorite Halloween.
It's probably either Halloween twenty nineteen or Halloween twenty twenty one.
Halloween twenty nineteen was when I was in the UK
for Driam the tour with this freaking Spider Man outfit.

(41:41):
It was all sequence. I should have known I was gay.
Not that being a girl and wearing Spider Man cousto
means you're gay. It doesn't, but I should have known
for me that that meant that. And then Halloween twenty two,
twenty twenty one, I'm sorry, I was dancing with the
Stars and so it was Penny Wise and I just ah,
it was something about that. It just was a beast.
Something else that's cool about Halloween is this started in

(42:03):
probably twenty seventeen, maybe is people started dressing up as me.
And it's funny because it ranges from little kids that
want to dress like Jojo Bobo Joso. That's a little kid,
say Jojo Bobo show show. Little kids want to dress
like that. But then the older kids want to dress
like Abby Lee and Jojosiba from dance Moms, and so they,

(42:23):
you know, wear a little funny, sparkly outfit of bow
in their hair, and it's it's fun to see the
range of kids from adults that really do do a
Jojo Halloween costume. And I think that's something that I'm
grateful for that I did grow up having a look
because it's so fun to recreate and even me myself,
I'm like, I love to recreate old Jojo looks like.

(42:44):
I think it's hilarious. I think it's cool. I think
it's a tribute. Obviously it's not who I am anymore,
but it is who I was, and so it's it's
kind of cool to like take a trip back down
to memory lane and then see all the kids do
that too, and see the adults do that. I mean,
it's just is awesome. I really do enjoying Halloween and
seeing all that. Okay, this is interesting. So I I've

(43:06):
never I cannot say this. I can't say I never lied.
I have told one lie in my career, one one
singular lie in my whole career. One thing has been fake,
and that is that I like candy. I don't like candy,
never have I'll eat candy. I don't fancy it though
it it is. It's just not want to gravitate towards
if there's a fruit plate and a veggie tray and

(43:28):
a candy tray, going straight to the veggies of fruit,
fruit first, then veggie, then candy. Now there's a cookie
or cupcake or freaking rice crispy treat, don't count me
out because that I will smash. But if there is
like a Snickers bar or some Skittles or some mmms
or something, nah, I don't. I don't gravitate towards it.

(43:48):
We have a ton of candy in my house. Never
eat it. I don't know. Just uh, never been my vibe.
I guess. Oh see. One of the reason why I
love Halloween it's because I do really love scary things.
I like scary movies. I like scary houses, haunted houses.
I like scary videos. I think scary is so fun.

(44:09):
I mean, it's just like lights up the showl. I
don't know. I love the like rush that you get
from it. Although I will say, and this is kind
of a fun point to wrap up my Halloween Send
Special Forces. Nothing scares me though. Nothing. I went to
Halloween Horne Ice and Share. Normally I'm so scared this show.
I was like, all right, yeah, let's go, let's go.

(44:30):
Nothing scarier than DIA's crew. Nah, I'm chilling DIA's Billy. Nah,
this ain't nothing, this is nothing. So I kind of
I don't get as scared anymore as I used to.
But uh yeah, I like scary things. They're fun. Oh
especially scary movies. Ah, scary movie date my favorite thing ever.
Ah ha, I get excited thinking about it. Whenever I

(44:51):
get excited, I get a numb left pinky. I don't
know why it's a thing, and it's I guess not
what I think about a scary movie. I don't know. Ah,
all right, well, I feel like that is probably the
place that I should wrap up this very first Jojosan, Now,
remember if you made it this far or I guess
probably like twenty minutes ago. Go comment penguins on my

(45:13):
recent Instagram post. I'm excited to start to have guests
on this podcast. Next we can look forward to me
chatting with Tyler Cameron, who became one of my best
friends on Special Forces. I adore him so much. I'm
so excited to get a talk with him. You can
see lots of fun future guests. I'm so excited. It's
gonna be a blast, gonna get to know more about me,

(45:34):
know about more of my inside life, know more about
my outside life. It's gonna be it's gonna be an
adventure that we are going on together, so buckle up
and I will see you there peace. Thank you so
much for listening, everybody. Be sure to follow us on
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