February 6, 2024 • 30 mins
JoJo dives deep into her dating history...sharing secrets we've never heard before!She reveals ALL her firsts -- first crush, first kiss, first relationship...Plus, which celebrity couple is her inspiration?!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Jojosa Now with me, Jojo Siua and
iHeartRadio Podcast. All right, welcome back to Jojo. See what now,
I'm gonna start crying. Oh my god. We are about
too deep dive into a scary, scary, scary topic, very
scary topic. But it's gonna be light. It's gonna be light,
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it's gonna be fluffy, it's gonna be fun, it's gonna
be energetic. We talking about the history of my love life.
Oh dear god, Oh my god. All right, Ah well,
let me just say my love life has been a
very very public affair. I've been very public about a
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lot of parts of my love life, for sure. There
recently has been more that I've kept very private. I
will say that I've learned a lot lot of lessons
and we're gonna deep dive on that. Stay tuned. But
I wanted to just kind of go like back in time,
because there's as much as the world knows or things
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they know, there's a lot that the world does not
know at all. And we are going back to POV.
I'm going with two thousand and let's say twenty eleven.
I was a really cute eight years old. Are you
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ready for this? Well, okay, actually, let's go even back
in time a little bit further. I when I was
very young. Everybody has their like cutey little crushes, right,
I did have a crush on my neighbor. His name,
Oh my god, I think his name was Carter. I
don't know. I was literally like three or four. I
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was very very young, had a little crush on him. Anyways,
cut to third grade, and I don't know if you
guys know this or not, but I'm actually a married woman.
When I was in third grade, I got proposed to
at Recess. I went for the last semester of third grade.
That's why I realized I was right there. However, for
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the last semester of third grade, just to make sure
I didn't want to go to school, make sure I
didn't want that to be my life, you know what
I mean. And it definitely was not the life for me.
I was on track with schooling. That was another reason.
We wanted to make sure that I was, like, you know,
where I needed to be, and very much so. Was
we're chilling Anyways, One day, the bad boy his name
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was Braxton, and he he was cutie like he was
like a cutie little boy, but he was a bad boy.
He got in trouble. He was sitting in time out
at recess. Well, rumor had it he was gonna propose
to me that day that he was sitting at timeout
and I can, like, I can picture this so vividly.
Oh my god, it's one of those memories I like,
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I genuinely don't have a photo of can't don't have
a photo of him, but like, I can see him,
if that makes sense. I can see the thing he
gave me, I can see where I put it, I
can see where it all happened. So I walk over
to him and we're I mean, we're babies at this
point time, we're eight years old. And I was like, hey,
I heard you have something to tell me today and
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he was like yeah, and I was like what is it.
He was like, will you marry me? And I was
like yeah, we had never talked before this. Keep in mind,
it was very much so just like rumor had it,
he was gonna ask me out and ask me to
marry him, apparently. And he gave me this like cutie
little like glassy jak ring that comes on the top
of a cupcake and yeah, I put it in my
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cubby in my laundry room at my house. We had
like this big stack of cubbies that our shoes would
go in, and I popped that ring in there, and
rumor has it's still there to this day. So, yeah,
I'm engaged. I'm off the market now, apparently engaged with
a man for God for twelve years now. Obviously I'm kidding.
That story is a very true story, but are so
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I'm kidding about the whole engaged thing. Anyways, after that,
I that is when I went on to Abby's alto
and dance competition, and boy, oh boy, did I have
a crush on Travis. Now, see, I don't. It's weird
because obviously now I'm very very if you didn't know,
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very very gay, and I don't find I can appreciate
men's attraction nowadays, but I don't find them. I'm not.
I'm not. I'm not. I don't think I will ever
fall for a man anymore. I consider myself a lesbian,
and so I look back at my life and I think, like,
how much of all of that, all the boy crushes,
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was real? How much of that was me being like, oh,
I need to have a crush on a boy. How
many girls in my life that were my friends did
I actually, like actually have a crush on but like
was like too scared to realize it or admit it,
you know what I mean? Like, anyways, Bob, I do
audc Abmay's also in dance Competition, my first TV show.
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They edited this out of the first episode, but it's
so sad. It was my first date that I ever
went on, and it was with Travis. We had a
duo and they set us on this little date. We
got to go into Crafty and pick out snacks. We
got oranges and em and m's and we sat on
the stairs and we ate them and we talked and
we held hands. It was cute. It was really cute. Obviously,
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nothing ever came of that. The best part about it
is Travis. Now we talk about this, We've talked about
it a few times. Travis is very openly gay. I'm
very openly gay. So we were like, that's why we
were both okay with this because we both knew, which
is great. It's amazing. It just works. If it works,
it works, and if it doesn't, it doesn't. So then
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I come home from audc and all of a sudden,
I get my first real official boyfriend. What's his name?
I don't remember? How did I meet him on Instagram?
What did my mom do make me break up with
him in eight hours? Now? I thought I was breaking
this man's heart and apparently I was, at nine years old,
don't know what this kid was really. Never talked to him,
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talked for about a day, and he was like, want
to be my girlfriend? And I was like, frick ye
I do, and yeah. We dated for eight hours and
then that was it. Mom made me in things which
honestly valid. I would make my kid, Freddy to do
the same. Freddie is not my kid yet, Freddie will
be my kid one day. If I ever talked about kids, Freddie,
Eddie and Teddy, Freddy's my baby girl, and then Eddie
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and Teddy are the twin boys. Those are my babies
one day. Anyways, then I am definitely off the dating
scene for a very long time. Then I don't want
anything to do with crushes. Think they're silly, think they're
waste of time. Then I turned twelve, and that's when
I was on Dance Moms, and so it was very
When we were on Dance Moms, there was a lot
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of us girls, and it was very much like who
do you have a crush on? Who do you have
a crush on? Who do you have a crush on?
And stuff. For me, I was like, well, damn, I
need to have a crush. Let's go h Thomas. And
I'm John talking very openly about this because it is
all public out there. If you scroll back on my
life far enough, you would find all of this information.
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But no one's gonna take time to scroll three years.
So I'm just gonna give it to you all now
in a thirty minute podcast. Had a crush on a
kid named Thomas. He was on Nickelodeon. He was very
very cuteie boy. He was awesome, super nice kid. We
became really good friends. All I wanted was for this
boy to kiss me on my thirteenth birthday. Did it
happen spoiler alert No, but didn't. We text and where
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were so cute? We were so cute? Oh my god,
looking back, it was so cute. It was very thirsty.
I was very desperate. I gave very much so pick
me girl, which is fine, but it just obviously is
not the vibe now. Anyways, I used to be like, oh,
I want to play a game. The yeah, let's play game.
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And I'd be like, let's play two truths and a
lie and he'd be like, okay, this is all over text.
How this man ever tolerated me or was friends with me,
I don't know, Thomas. I'm so sorry for this. Anyways,
I was like, I love to sing and dance. I
have a massive crush on you. I own thirty seven cats,
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which one is a lie? Like I and I would
do that so often, like then he would do his,
and his would be like, I'm from Argentina. My name
is Thomas. I'm on Nickelodeon, like it was so like chill.
Then I'd be like from Argentina's for sure the lie.
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Then I would be like you would think like I
would get the hint, like yo real back in. Then
I would be like, I really really miss you. I
think you're cute. I'm forty seven years old, like just
so stupid, Jojo so stupid. Obviously had no game or
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did I have the best game. I mean, Joe Relman
was kind of doing her big one. I'm not gonna
lie anyways, Thomas crushed that fizzled out. Then I moved
on to Robert Irwin had a massive crush on Robert Irwin.
Was obsessed with the man. Thought we were for sure
gonna get married, Like was was convinced we were gonna
get married. And then cut to I actually, for real,
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for the first time ever, had a little bit of
a fling with a person, and this was my first.
The first two flings were with boys, and I had
one real boyfriend. And then that's when I kind of realized, like, hey, wait,
I was seventeen, We're got okay, No, I need I
need to stick in order. I'm almost saying, I'm trying
to jump to the good part. I'm trying to switch
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to girls, guys. I'm trying to get past this whole
boy part of my life. But it genuinely was the
first seventeen years of my life. So there's there's a lot,
there's a thick of it that we got to get through. Anyways,
had a cutie little boyfling that was fun, fresh fears.
Got my first kiss when I was sixteen. It was cute.
I'll give it to us, like whatever we were like,
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we were a cutie little like vibe and then cut
to oh god, cut to later that same year, Yeah,
This is in twenty twenty, twenty twenty. This is like
POV September. I'm like, all right, Internet's boring right now?
What can I do? How can I shake it up?
And I was like, you know what, I want to
make the internet think I have a boyfriend. This is
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at a point in TI where I was very hated
on the internet, and I was like, oh, they'll eat
this up. So I was like, all right, someone asked
me to prom and I was like, sorry, I could go,
but like, my boyfriend probably wouldn't like that very much.
Did exactly what I thought I was gonna do with
the world. Went into a store. Oh my god, who's
Jojesi his boyfriend? YadA YadA, YadA, YadA YadA. So then
I went with it for a bit and then my
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friends Kyler and Madison. Madison has a younger brother and
his name is Mark, and they were like, hey, they
knew what I was doing. They knew like the likes
like that it wasn't real because they were very close
to me, and they were like, we want to set
you up with Madison with her little brother Mark, And
I was like, oh my god, yes, please do it.
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And so then Mark and I met, and they didn't
tell Mark, like the whole thing that was going on
on the internet with me having this like fake boyfriend.
So then Mark saw that and was like what is this?
And I was like, oh god, let me explain myself.
So then I had to explain myself and he was
like of course naturally he was like I do not
believe you. And I was like okay, like I promised,
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and I was like, talk to your family, like they
know what's going on right now. So then he did,
and then obviously he became my boyfriend. And he became
my boyfriend very fast. It was National Girlfriend Day and
or maybe it was National Boyfriend Day. I don't know,
it was one of the two. And he was like, oh, man,
I wish I wish I could actually celebrate today. And
I was like, well why can't you? And he was like,
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cause you know my girlfriend officially And I was like, well,
why can't I be? And he was like do you
want to be? And I was like yeah, And it
was cute. We were driving home from the sugar factory
and we were on a little date and he was
driving my car and then yeah became his girlfriend. He
became my boyfriend. It was cute. That was a fun
little relationship. No, nothing bad, just young me, very very
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very gay, And yeah, I ended things. I've actually I've
only ever been in the position where I'm the one
to end things. I've never I've never been broken up with,
which is interesting because so obviously all of those relationships
are like CUTEI fun, Like half of them are all jokes.
And then you know, of course Mark, and the one
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before Mark was very like, it was cute. And also
I'm only saying the one before Mark because it wasn't
ever very public, and I don't know if he would
want it to be public, so I'm being I'm being cautious,
I'm being respectful, although I'm sure he would be fine
with it being public. We're good friends now today, been
in my life for He's literally been in my life
since I was like five, maybe we even known each
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other and like just saw him a few months ago,
like we're chill anyways. But those were all just like cute, fun, frivolous.
And then when I realized I was gay was right
after I had broken up with Mark, and I had
a friend who was gay, and I knew she was gay.
She had come out to me that year. I kind
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of had my thoughts beforehand, but then she officially came
out to me that year and thought it was cool,
and my parents asked me. They were like, what would
you do if she ever tried to make a move
on you? And I was like ooh, and I was like,
she would never she's my best friend, Like that'd be weird.
And but I was like, wait, I would enjoy like
I would. I would be okay with that. I would
like that. And that's kind of when I knew, like
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for real, like, oh, this is real, like you don't
like boys. And that was kind of my first realization.
And then when I saw her in person again because
we hadn't seen each other for a year. But then
when I saw her in person again, I was like, oh, oh, oh,
I don't like you, like a friend. But of course,
you know, in my head, I thought there's no way
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she would ever like me. YadA, YadA, YadA. A few
days later, find out she likes me. It was great.
We had a good time. She ended up becoming my
first girlfriend. I definitely was in some sort of version
of love, not the you're the one love, but for
sure some version of love. And it's interesting to look
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back on because I know in the moment when I
was in my first serious relationship that I definitely was
convinced that I like that, that was it, Like that
she was the one for me. We were getting married,
she was gonna be the mother with my children. Like
that was definitely a very prominent thought in my head.
But now you know, that was three years ago. I'm
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looking back at it, and I so it was at
the very end of twenty twenty, very beginning of twenty
twenty one, so a little bit over three years ago.
Looking back at it, I'm like, that was definitely some
sort of version of love, but it was not the
version of love now that I can see that I
would have one day, if that makes sense. Now, we
had a great relationship. We had great times. We had
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good times. Of course, every relationship has a hard times,
like that's no secret, but very fun learned a lot,
had a good time. Very first serious relationship lasted nine
months and then I ended things. And so I'm gonna
talk about ending things. Being the one that's always had
to end them is interesting. It's a tough perspective because
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you are are very obviously something has happened or something
is happening that you don't want to be in the
relationship anymore. But then at some point you kind of
get convinced, like I'm gonna hurt this person if I leave,
so I need to stay. Then you're hurting yourself, But
then are you doing any good for them? But it's
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this person that you care so much about you don't
want to hurt them. But then it's it's just like
this such just back and forth dynamic, and it gets
it gets really tough, and so you're you're double hurting
yourself while you're hurting somebody else Whereas I think being
the person being broken up with, I feel like if
someone broke up with me, I would be very hurt,
but I would know that they were making the right
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choice for them, you know what I mean, versus like
being the person that has to do it. Like that's like,
I don't know. I've always found it very, very very
hard going through breakups for me is something that I
take very seriously. It's why I'm very cautious to get
into another relationship because I I'm scared of breakups. I
think after you go through your first like heartbreak or
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version of a heartbreak, it scares you for sure, and
I think that's kind of where I'm at in life,
where I'm like, Okay, wait, do I want to do
that to myself again? And I of course I do.
But I now have some very very serious criteria and
I've learned boundaries and I've learned structure, and it's been hard.
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I took all of twenty twenty three and I was like, no, dating,
grow up, Jojo, find yourself, find your life, find your habits,
find out to love properly. Get rid of your toxicity.
Because I look, I won't lie. I'm for sure been
toxic before, as we all have. Like anybody who thinks
they haven't been toxic before, you lie in dear self.
We've all been seventeen and eighteen and nineteen, and I'm
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currently twenty. I'm not much older, and I look back
and I'm like, no, I definitely there's mistakes that I made. There's,
of course, mistakes that have just happened, but there's there's
a lot that I've learned in the last year that
I'm like, now I'm excited to apply to a new relationship, honestly,
and some people are going to think that I sound
crazy right now, and that is okay. One of the
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biggest things for me right now that I'm looking for
a relationship is somebody who is ready for kids. I
am not ready, but I am very near ready, and
I think that within the next three save three four.
I wish I could say two three, but I still
feel like I will be a little young in two years.
But I say three four because I feel like that's
like pregnant in three babies and four you know what
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I mean. And that is something that I care very
very much about. I have wanted kids for a very
long time. I of course went away. I make the
joke to my family all the time. I'm like, thank
God I'm not straight, because if I was, and if
it was, that was the process of me getting pregnant,
that would be like we would have a four year
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old by now. I'm kidding. I'm kidding, I'm kidding. I've
just had a very I've had a very big maternal
instinct since I was literally twelve. But of course, you know,
me liking women, there is a very different process. All
processes of getting pregnant are difficult and tough and confusing,
but you know, as as a data bean where there's
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a little bit of extra steps. So that is something
now that I'm really looking for in somebody who's like
ready to be there in three years, which I think
is why now I gravitate towards people that are older
than me. I gravitate towards like twenty seven, twenty eight
age because I feel like that's when more people are
ready to have little babies. And then one day Freddy,
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Eddie and Eddy will be into the world and then
everybody will get to see my fantasy that I've always
wanted to live with my children. I can't wait. My
friend the other day was like, what are you gonna do,
like when you want to come to the studio, Like,
how are you gonna do that with kids? And I
was like, oh, I, Well, they'll be here with us.
They will be having the time of their life with
us for sure. Oh man, Okay. I feel like I
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want to just like crack down on some like fun
random dating questions, love life history questions, and just like
go freaking in for some fun. One of the first
questions is have you been on dating apps? That actually
is one of the worst parts, literally worst parts about
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being a celebrity is you cannot go on dating apps.
It sucks. There is a dating app for celebrities called Reya,
but there's not a lot of people on it, and
you have to get approved. It's a whole thing. You
have to get recommended. It's a whole thing. But the
problem is Tinder bumble hinge. You can make an account,
can submit my driver's license, put in my password number. God,
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I could give them my social Security number, but there's
something that still registers Jojo Siua. Even if I put
Joelle Siwa, that will flag the account and get it
taken down. And so I verified them all all taken down.
And it is brutal because I would have so much
fun on a dating app. But honestly, I think it's good.
I think it keeps me very very sane, and that's
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a good thing. Another question, what role do your friends
and family play in your romantic relationships? This is something
that I have had to learn the very very very
hard way. In the beginning, I told everyone everything. I
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told everyone, the good, I told everyone, the bad, everyone
the happy, I told everyone the sad. Meeting close friends,
close family, And that is something that I realized. When
you care about somebody, if so say I'm telling my
mom the bad, write what's going on that's making me
sad in my relationship, which is a very normal, natural thing. Uh,
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she is only going to remember that, She's not gonna
remember the good stuff, and then it kind of made
her and everybody around me. I'm just using her as
a specific example. Resent the person that I was with,
Resent my partner. And it's happened different times, multiple times.
And it's hard because I can't get mad at her
for caring about me, but also at the same time,
it's my fault for sharing too much of the bad.
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But I also needed the help with the bad, you
know what I mean. And here's the lesson that I learned,
and I swear on my life. I just learned this
lesson yesterday my very best friends Kelsey. She is actually
my tap teacher. She said, she says, it depends on
what you're fighting about in your relationship. Are you fighting
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about big stuff or are you fighting about small stupid stuff?
And I thought to myself, I said, oh, yeah, we
only fight about small stuff. That's good. We don't fight
about big things like that would be good. Like that,
I was thinking about my past relationships and I was like, yeah,
we don't fight about anything big. We only fight about
like little stupid stuff. And as I was thinking that
to myself, she said, because if you are, you want
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to be fighting about the big stuff that matters. And
I was like, wait, wait, what do you mean? And
she was like, well, if you're fighting over stupid, little
everyday things, that's not okay. That's creating a tox environment.
Now if you're fighting over like where not fighting over,
but getting in pickles about like where you want to live,
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what you're freaking wedding financials or your your baby timeline,
Like there's there are big things, how you're gonna be
your house payment, who's paying the house? Like, there's a
lot that goes into it. That are big fights, not fights,
but talks I guess a better word. And of course
some of them lead to fights, but big talks. And
it's interesting because I was like the example that I used,
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there was a water bottle on the table, and I said, wow,
that's crazy because like me and my ex we would
argue over if that water had too much or too
little water in it to flip and do the water
bottle flip challenge. And Kelsey was like, that's not something
you should fight over. And I was like, that blew
my mind. And so I think that that's what my
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family could see and my partners is I we were
fighting over small things and they didn't know that that's
what was frustrating them. But I was telling them bad
stories about small things that we would fight over and
they would be like, Jojo, that's just unnecessary. You don't
need it. And now now it all makes sense. Literally
yesterday I learned that lesson. So I was like, that's interesting.
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That's an interesting thing for me to pick up on.
What what are these arguments about. Are they about important
things or are they about small stupid things. They should
be about important things, never those small stupid things. Now,
I will say love can be very fun, whether it
is true love or it is just like cute love,
it can be very fun. And there can be a
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lot of good with the bad, and it's it's hard
because you want to enjoy that good so much, but
you also can't let that bad affect you so much.
And so that's kind of where I've learned to just
like take it for what it is. When someone shows
you their true colors, believe them, whether that be good
or bad. But just just always have your head pretty
clear as clear as possible. Another question, do you feel
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like you're the chaser or do you like to be chased?
Oh see, this is so hard for me. I am
definitely I love the chase. I do love the chase.
But I hate games. So that's the problem. I don't
like playing games. I don't like if someone plays games
with me like that immediately turns me away from somebody.
But I love the like I want, but I can't have.
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I love it, but I hate the game of it.
So it's two. I also, even if I wanted to
be chased, I physically can't let it happen. Like I
don't know what it is. If I get a text,
I'm gonna respond to it. If I see you your calling,
I'm going to answer it. If you waited three hours
to respond to me, I'm not gonna wait six I'm
gonna wait three minutes, like I'm I'm I can't help bet.
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It's it's bad. How do you find ways to be
your individual self? Honestly, that's something that I will admit
is a very big flaw in me and relationships in
the past. I never I never did, and I think
that was a combined effort between me and past partners,
for sure. But that is something that I really try
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to figure out in twenty twenty three by being alone,
being looking at my friends, looking at my friends relationships,
seeing how they live, seeing how the ones their traits
that I like, their traits that they don't like, the
traits that I want in a relationship that they have,
the trades that I don't want. And well, my very
good friends Rachel and Abby, there there's a lot of
independence in their relationship. And I really really love that
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I have these other friends who work on cruise ships
and they have massive sense of individuality as well. And
I think that I've learned that that is so important
that I have some friends as well who are very
attached at the hip. I actually I have straight friends
as well who are individual and I have straight friends
as well who are attached at the hip. And I
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see now what I want to be like, and I
see who I want to be like, and I see
what couples I enjoy hanging around as their friend, and
I want to create that space for my friends as well.
And it's tough, but you gotta do what you gotta do. Man,
All right, last freaking question, are you ready? It's massive?
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Do you want to get married one day? You're never
gonna believe this. I know I sound crazy, but you
just got to get on board. When I talk about Freddy,
Eddie and Teddy, I'm very serious. People think in the
beginning I'm joking about it, and they think a long time,
especially because their names are hysterical Freddy, Eddie and Teddy. Also,
if anyone has any middle name, suggestions, poor Freddie, she
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needs a middle name yet. Eddie and Teddy they have
their middle names. You've got Eddie, Anthony, Teddy Tyler. But
Freddie doesn't have a middle name yet. But I both
both Eddie and Teddy their middle names are named after somebody,
and so I want Freddie to also be named after somebody.
But I can't. I can't come up with like what
rings like Eddie, Anthony Rings, Teddy Tyler, Teddy ty Like
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that is the cutest little name ever, Teddy Tyler rings.
I was like, Freddie needs like a like what's going
to click? So if you have any suggestions, let me know.
But back to what I was saying is I am
very serious about it, and I really really want babies
and I think that if somebody partner wise comes into
my life and is very serious and very good within
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these next few years, one million percent I would want
to get married. However, I am dead set on the
on little baby Freddie coming here in three or four years,
and so if no one's in my life at that
point in time, kids will be my priority before a
serious relationship and before marriage. And so I think it
is just like a look into the future, what's gonna happen.
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I'm not opposed to being married, but at the same time,
I'm like, oh, I just don't want vibe is. But
I look at Chrishelle and g Flip and I want
what they have so bad. I like their relationship. To me,
I'm just like you two are literally freaking perfect, like
obsessed with them both, and they're both just amazing people.
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And so I'm like this, seeing them married makes me like, oh,
that looks nice. That looks nice. But then you know,
no one's around in the next three or four years.
They're gonna they're gonna be marrying me with a baby,
So it's it's all up for grabs. Man. Oh boy,
this was only the start of the deep dive of
my love life. We have a lot to go in
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hard lessons that I've learned, hard things that I've gone through,
situations that I've never talked about, Situations that I've never
been public about, things that I have been public about
that I regret, things that I regret doing, saying, being
and I will say there's a lot. There's a lot
that I've learned by making mistakes publicly, and uh, that's
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gonna be a fun deep dive and that is going
to I think be a very a good learning curve
and a very good rant session for me, because that's
what I feel like. This podcast is my personal rant session.
But it's gonna be a goodrand session for me because
I've learned a lot of lessons. I've learned that I
want to keep my love life, believe it or not,
private from here on out about my life, but what's
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out there's already out there, and so there's no shame
in talking about it now because it is already out there.
And I think the only thing that I can do
is make things more clear, more be more aware of
what they are, what they were. Uh yeah, that's gonna
be the game plan. So get freaking ready because that
that podcast Deep Dive is going to be a whole
other level good freaking look just on popcorn for that one.
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iHeartRadio Podcast. All right, welcome back to Jojo. See what now,
I'm gonna start crying. Oh my god. We are about
too deep dive into a scary, scary, scary topic, very
scary topic. But it's gonna be light. It's gonna be light,
(00:23):
it's gonna be fluffy, it's gonna be fun, it's gonna
be energetic. We talking about the history of my love life.
Oh dear god, Oh my god. All right, Ah well,
let me just say my love life has been a
very very public affair. I've been very public about a
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lot of parts of my love life, for sure. There
recently has been more that I've kept very private. I
will say that I've learned a lot lot of lessons
and we're gonna deep dive on that. Stay tuned. But
I wanted to just kind of go like back in time,
because there's as much as the world knows or things
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they know, there's a lot that the world does not
know at all. And we are going back to POV.
I'm going with two thousand and let's say twenty eleven.
I was a really cute eight years old. Are you
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ready for this? Well, okay, actually, let's go even back
in time a little bit further. I when I was
very young. Everybody has their like cutey little crushes, right,
I did have a crush on my neighbor. His name,
Oh my god, I think his name was Carter. I
don't know. I was literally like three or four. I
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was very very young, had a little crush on him. Anyways,
cut to third grade, and I don't know if you
guys know this or not, but I'm actually a married woman.
When I was in third grade, I got proposed to
at Recess. I went for the last semester of third grade.
That's why I realized I was right there. However, for
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the last semester of third grade, just to make sure
I didn't want to go to school, make sure I
didn't want that to be my life, you know what
I mean. And it definitely was not the life for me.
I was on track with schooling. That was another reason.
We wanted to make sure that I was, like, you know,
where I needed to be, and very much so. Was
we're chilling Anyways, One day, the bad boy his name
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was Braxton, and he he was cutie like he was
like a cutie little boy, but he was a bad boy.
He got in trouble. He was sitting in time out
at recess. Well, rumor had it he was gonna propose
to me that day that he was sitting at timeout
and I can, like, I can picture this so vividly.
Oh my god, it's one of those memories I like,
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I genuinely don't have a photo of can't don't have
a photo of him, but like, I can see him,
if that makes sense. I can see the thing he
gave me, I can see where I put it, I
can see where it all happened. So I walk over
to him and we're I mean, we're babies at this
point time, we're eight years old. And I was like, hey,
I heard you have something to tell me today and
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he was like yeah, and I was like what is it.
He was like, will you marry me? And I was
like yeah, we had never talked before this. Keep in mind,
it was very much so just like rumor had it,
he was gonna ask me out and ask me to
marry him, apparently. And he gave me this like cutie
little like glassy jak ring that comes on the top
of a cupcake and yeah, I put it in my
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cubby in my laundry room at my house. We had
like this big stack of cubbies that our shoes would
go in, and I popped that ring in there, and
rumor has it's still there to this day. So, yeah,
I'm engaged. I'm off the market now, apparently engaged with
a man for God for twelve years now. Obviously I'm kidding.
That story is a very true story, but are so
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I'm kidding about the whole engaged thing. Anyways, after that,
I that is when I went on to Abby's alto
and dance competition, and boy, oh boy, did I have
a crush on Travis. Now, see, I don't. It's weird
because obviously now I'm very very if you didn't know,
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very very gay, and I don't find I can appreciate
men's attraction nowadays, but I don't find them. I'm not.
I'm not. I'm not. I don't think I will ever
fall for a man anymore. I consider myself a lesbian,
and so I look back at my life and I think, like,
how much of all of that, all the boy crushes,
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was real? How much of that was me being like, oh,
I need to have a crush on a boy. How
many girls in my life that were my friends did
I actually, like actually have a crush on but like
was like too scared to realize it or admit it,
you know what I mean? Like, anyways, Bob, I do
audc Abmay's also in dance Competition, my first TV show.
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They edited this out of the first episode, but it's
so sad. It was my first date that I ever
went on, and it was with Travis. We had a
duo and they set us on this little date. We
got to go into Crafty and pick out snacks. We
got oranges and em and m's and we sat on
the stairs and we ate them and we talked and
we held hands. It was cute. It was really cute. Obviously,
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nothing ever came of that. The best part about it
is Travis. Now we talk about this, We've talked about
it a few times. Travis is very openly gay. I'm
very openly gay. So we were like, that's why we
were both okay with this because we both knew, which
is great. It's amazing. It just works. If it works,
it works, and if it doesn't, it doesn't. So then
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I come home from audc and all of a sudden,
I get my first real official boyfriend. What's his name?
I don't remember? How did I meet him on Instagram?
What did my mom do make me break up with
him in eight hours? Now? I thought I was breaking
this man's heart and apparently I was, at nine years old,
don't know what this kid was really. Never talked to him,
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talked for about a day, and he was like, want
to be my girlfriend? And I was like, frick ye
I do, and yeah. We dated for eight hours and
then that was it. Mom made me in things which
honestly valid. I would make my kid, Freddy to do
the same. Freddie is not my kid yet, Freddie will
be my kid one day. If I ever talked about kids, Freddie,
Eddie and Teddy, Freddy's my baby girl, and then Eddie
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and Teddy are the twin boys. Those are my babies
one day. Anyways, then I am definitely off the dating
scene for a very long time. Then I don't want
anything to do with crushes. Think they're silly, think they're
waste of time. Then I turned twelve, and that's when
I was on Dance Moms, and so it was very
When we were on Dance Moms, there was a lot
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of us girls, and it was very much like who
do you have a crush on? Who do you have
a crush on? Who do you have a crush on?
And stuff. For me, I was like, well, damn, I
need to have a crush. Let's go h Thomas. And
I'm John talking very openly about this because it is
all public out there. If you scroll back on my
life far enough, you would find all of this information.
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But no one's gonna take time to scroll three years.
So I'm just gonna give it to you all now
in a thirty minute podcast. Had a crush on a
kid named Thomas. He was on Nickelodeon. He was very
very cuteie boy. He was awesome, super nice kid. We
became really good friends. All I wanted was for this
boy to kiss me on my thirteenth birthday. Did it
happen spoiler alert No, but didn't. We text and where
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were so cute? We were so cute? Oh my god,
looking back, it was so cute. It was very thirsty.
I was very desperate. I gave very much so pick
me girl, which is fine, but it just obviously is
not the vibe now. Anyways, I used to be like, oh,
I want to play a game. The yeah, let's play game.
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And I'd be like, let's play two truths and a
lie and he'd be like, okay, this is all over text.
How this man ever tolerated me or was friends with me,
I don't know, Thomas. I'm so sorry for this. Anyways,
I was like, I love to sing and dance. I
have a massive crush on you. I own thirty seven cats,
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which one is a lie? Like I and I would
do that so often, like then he would do his,
and his would be like, I'm from Argentina. My name
is Thomas. I'm on Nickelodeon, like it was so like chill.
Then I'd be like from Argentina's for sure the lie.
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Then I would be like you would think like I
would get the hint, like yo real back in. Then
I would be like, I really really miss you. I
think you're cute. I'm forty seven years old, like just
so stupid, Jojo so stupid. Obviously had no game or
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did I have the best game. I mean, Joe Relman
was kind of doing her big one. I'm not gonna
lie anyways, Thomas crushed that fizzled out. Then I moved
on to Robert Irwin had a massive crush on Robert Irwin.
Was obsessed with the man. Thought we were for sure
gonna get married, Like was was convinced we were gonna
get married. And then cut to I actually, for real,
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for the first time ever, had a little bit of
a fling with a person, and this was my first.
The first two flings were with boys, and I had
one real boyfriend. And then that's when I kind of realized, like, hey, wait,
I was seventeen, We're got okay, No, I need I
need to stick in order. I'm almost saying, I'm trying
to jump to the good part. I'm trying to switch
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to girls, guys. I'm trying to get past this whole
boy part of my life. But it genuinely was the
first seventeen years of my life. So there's there's a lot,
there's a thick of it that we got to get through. Anyways,
had a cutie little boyfling that was fun, fresh fears.
Got my first kiss when I was sixteen. It was cute.
I'll give it to us, like whatever we were like,
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we were a cutie little like vibe and then cut
to oh god, cut to later that same year, Yeah,
This is in twenty twenty, twenty twenty. This is like
POV September. I'm like, all right, Internet's boring right now?
What can I do? How can I shake it up?
And I was like, you know what, I want to
make the internet think I have a boyfriend. This is
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at a point in TI where I was very hated
on the internet, and I was like, oh, they'll eat
this up. So I was like, all right, someone asked
me to prom and I was like, sorry, I could go,
but like, my boyfriend probably wouldn't like that very much.
Did exactly what I thought I was gonna do with
the world. Went into a store. Oh my god, who's
Jojesi his boyfriend? YadA YadA, YadA, YadA YadA. So then
I went with it for a bit and then my
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friends Kyler and Madison. Madison has a younger brother and
his name is Mark, and they were like, hey, they
knew what I was doing. They knew like the likes
like that it wasn't real because they were very close
to me, and they were like, we want to set
you up with Madison with her little brother Mark, And
I was like, oh my god, yes, please do it.
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And so then Mark and I met, and they didn't
tell Mark, like the whole thing that was going on
on the internet with me having this like fake boyfriend.
So then Mark saw that and was like what is this?
And I was like, oh god, let me explain myself.
So then I had to explain myself and he was
like of course naturally he was like I do not
believe you. And I was like okay, like I promised,
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and I was like, talk to your family, like they
know what's going on right now. So then he did,
and then obviously he became my boyfriend. And he became
my boyfriend very fast. It was National Girlfriend Day and
or maybe it was National Boyfriend Day. I don't know,
it was one of the two. And he was like, oh, man,
I wish I wish I could actually celebrate today. And
I was like, well why can't you? And he was like,
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cause you know my girlfriend officially And I was like, well,
why can't I be? And he was like do you
want to be? And I was like yeah, And it
was cute. We were driving home from the sugar factory
and we were on a little date and he was
driving my car and then yeah became his girlfriend. He
became my boyfriend. It was cute. That was a fun
little relationship. No, nothing bad, just young me, very very
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very gay, And yeah, I ended things. I've actually I've
only ever been in the position where I'm the one
to end things. I've never I've never been broken up with,
which is interesting because so obviously all of those relationships
are like CUTEI fun, Like half of them are all jokes.
And then you know, of course Mark, and the one
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before Mark was very like, it was cute. And also
I'm only saying the one before Mark because it wasn't
ever very public, and I don't know if he would
want it to be public, so I'm being I'm being cautious,
I'm being respectful, although I'm sure he would be fine
with it being public. We're good friends now today, been
in my life for He's literally been in my life
since I was like five, maybe we even known each
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other and like just saw him a few months ago,
like we're chill anyways. But those were all just like cute, fun, frivolous.
And then when I realized I was gay was right
after I had broken up with Mark, and I had
a friend who was gay, and I knew she was gay.
She had come out to me that year. I kind
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of had my thoughts beforehand, but then she officially came
out to me that year and thought it was cool,
and my parents asked me. They were like, what would
you do if she ever tried to make a move
on you? And I was like ooh, and I was like,
she would never she's my best friend, Like that'd be weird.
And but I was like, wait, I would enjoy like
I would. I would be okay with that. I would
like that. And that's kind of when I knew, like
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for real, like, oh, this is real, like you don't
like boys. And that was kind of my first realization.
And then when I saw her in person again because
we hadn't seen each other for a year. But then
when I saw her in person again, I was like, oh, oh, oh,
I don't like you, like a friend. But of course,
you know, in my head, I thought there's no way
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she would ever like me. YadA, YadA, YadA. A few
days later, find out she likes me. It was great.
We had a good time. She ended up becoming my
first girlfriend. I definitely was in some sort of version
of love, not the you're the one love, but for
sure some version of love. And it's interesting to look
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back on because I know in the moment when I
was in my first serious relationship that I definitely was
convinced that I like that, that was it, Like that
she was the one for me. We were getting married,
she was gonna be the mother with my children. Like
that was definitely a very prominent thought in my head.
But now you know, that was three years ago. I'm
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looking back at it, and I so it was at
the very end of twenty twenty, very beginning of twenty
twenty one, so a little bit over three years ago.
Looking back at it, I'm like, that was definitely some
sort of version of love, but it was not the
version of love now that I can see that I
would have one day, if that makes sense. Now, we
had a great relationship. We had great times. We had
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good times. Of course, every relationship has a hard times,
like that's no secret, but very fun learned a lot,
had a good time. Very first serious relationship lasted nine
months and then I ended things. And so I'm gonna
talk about ending things. Being the one that's always had
to end them is interesting. It's a tough perspective because
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you are are very obviously something has happened or something
is happening that you don't want to be in the
relationship anymore. But then at some point you kind of
get convinced, like I'm gonna hurt this person if I leave,
so I need to stay. Then you're hurting yourself, But
then are you doing any good for them? But it's
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this person that you care so much about you don't
want to hurt them. But then it's it's just like
this such just back and forth dynamic, and it gets
it gets really tough, and so you're you're double hurting
yourself while you're hurting somebody else Whereas I think being
the person being broken up with, I feel like if
someone broke up with me, I would be very hurt,
but I would know that they were making the right
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choice for them, you know what I mean, versus like
being the person that has to do it. Like that's like,
I don't know. I've always found it very, very very
hard going through breakups for me is something that I
take very seriously. It's why I'm very cautious to get
into another relationship because I I'm scared of breakups. I
think after you go through your first like heartbreak or
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version of a heartbreak, it scares you for sure, and
I think that's kind of where I'm at in life,
where I'm like, Okay, wait, do I want to do
that to myself again? And I of course I do.
But I now have some very very serious criteria and
I've learned boundaries and I've learned structure, and it's been hard.
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I took all of twenty twenty three and I was like, no, dating,
grow up, Jojo, find yourself, find your life, find your habits,
find out to love properly. Get rid of your toxicity.
Because I look, I won't lie. I'm for sure been
toxic before, as we all have. Like anybody who thinks
they haven't been toxic before, you lie in dear self.
We've all been seventeen and eighteen and nineteen, and I'm
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currently twenty. I'm not much older, and I look back
and I'm like, no, I definitely there's mistakes that I made. There's,
of course, mistakes that have just happened, but there's there's
a lot that I've learned in the last year that
I'm like, now I'm excited to apply to a new relationship, honestly,
and some people are going to think that I sound
crazy right now, and that is okay. One of the
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biggest things for me right now that I'm looking for
a relationship is somebody who is ready for kids. I
am not ready, but I am very near ready, and
I think that within the next three save three four.
I wish I could say two three, but I still
feel like I will be a little young in two years.
But I say three four because I feel like that's
like pregnant in three babies and four you know what
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I mean. And that is something that I care very
very much about. I have wanted kids for a very
long time. I of course went away. I make the
joke to my family all the time. I'm like, thank
God I'm not straight, because if I was, and if
it was, that was the process of me getting pregnant,
that would be like we would have a four year
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old by now. I'm kidding. I'm kidding, I'm kidding. I've
just had a very I've had a very big maternal
instinct since I was literally twelve. But of course, you know,
me liking women, there is a very different process. All
processes of getting pregnant are difficult and tough and confusing,
but you know, as as a data bean where there's
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a little bit of extra steps. So that is something
now that I'm really looking for in somebody who's like
ready to be there in three years, which I think
is why now I gravitate towards people that are older
than me. I gravitate towards like twenty seven, twenty eight
age because I feel like that's when more people are
ready to have little babies. And then one day Freddy,
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Eddie and Eddy will be into the world and then
everybody will get to see my fantasy that I've always
wanted to live with my children. I can't wait. My
friend the other day was like, what are you gonna do,
like when you want to come to the studio, Like,
how are you gonna do that with kids? And I
was like, oh, I, Well, they'll be here with us.
They will be having the time of their life with
us for sure. Oh man, Okay. I feel like I
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want to just like crack down on some like fun
random dating questions, love life history questions, and just like
go freaking in for some fun. One of the first
questions is have you been on dating apps? That actually
is one of the worst parts, literally worst parts about
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being a celebrity is you cannot go on dating apps.
It sucks. There is a dating app for celebrities called Reya,
but there's not a lot of people on it, and
you have to get approved. It's a whole thing. You
have to get recommended. It's a whole thing. But the
problem is Tinder bumble hinge. You can make an account,
can submit my driver's license, put in my password number. God,
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I could give them my social Security number, but there's
something that still registers Jojo Siua. Even if I put
Joelle Siwa, that will flag the account and get it
taken down. And so I verified them all all taken down.
And it is brutal because I would have so much
fun on a dating app. But honestly, I think it's good.
I think it keeps me very very sane, and that's
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a good thing. Another question, what role do your friends
and family play in your romantic relationships? This is something
that I have had to learn the very very very
hard way. In the beginning, I told everyone everything. I
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told everyone, the good, I told everyone, the bad, everyone
the happy, I told everyone the sad. Meeting close friends,
close family, And that is something that I realized. When
you care about somebody, if so say I'm telling my
mom the bad, write what's going on that's making me
sad in my relationship, which is a very normal, natural thing. Uh,
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she is only going to remember that, She's not gonna
remember the good stuff, and then it kind of made
her and everybody around me. I'm just using her as
a specific example. Resent the person that I was with,
Resent my partner. And it's happened different times, multiple times.
And it's hard because I can't get mad at her
for caring about me, but also at the same time,
it's my fault for sharing too much of the bad.
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But I also needed the help with the bad, you
know what I mean. And here's the lesson that I learned,
and I swear on my life. I just learned this
lesson yesterday my very best friends Kelsey. She is actually
my tap teacher. She said, she says, it depends on
what you're fighting about in your relationship. Are you fighting
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about big stuff or are you fighting about small stupid stuff?
And I thought to myself, I said, oh, yeah, we
only fight about small stuff. That's good. We don't fight
about big things like that would be good. Like that,
I was thinking about my past relationships and I was like, yeah,
we don't fight about anything big. We only fight about
like little stupid stuff. And as I was thinking that
to myself, she said, because if you are, you want
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to be fighting about the big stuff that matters. And
I was like, wait, wait, what do you mean? And
she was like, well, if you're fighting over stupid, little
everyday things, that's not okay. That's creating a tox environment.
Now if you're fighting over like where not fighting over,
but getting in pickles about like where you want to live,
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what you're freaking wedding financials or your your baby timeline,
Like there's there are big things, how you're gonna be
your house payment, who's paying the house? Like, there's a
lot that goes into it. That are big fights, not fights,
but talks I guess a better word. And of course
some of them lead to fights, but big talks. And
it's interesting because I was like the example that I used,
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there was a water bottle on the table, and I said, wow,
that's crazy because like me and my ex we would
argue over if that water had too much or too
little water in it to flip and do the water
bottle flip challenge. And Kelsey was like, that's not something
you should fight over. And I was like, that blew
my mind. And so I think that that's what my
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family could see and my partners is I we were
fighting over small things and they didn't know that that's
what was frustrating them. But I was telling them bad
stories about small things that we would fight over and
they would be like, Jojo, that's just unnecessary. You don't
need it. And now now it all makes sense. Literally
yesterday I learned that lesson. So I was like, that's interesting.
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That's an interesting thing for me to pick up on.
What what are these arguments about. Are they about important
things or are they about small stupid things. They should
be about important things, never those small stupid things. Now,
I will say love can be very fun, whether it
is true love or it is just like cute love,
it can be very fun. And there can be a
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lot of good with the bad, and it's it's hard
because you want to enjoy that good so much, but
you also can't let that bad affect you so much.
And so that's kind of where I've learned to just
like take it for what it is. When someone shows
you their true colors, believe them, whether that be good
or bad. But just just always have your head pretty
clear as clear as possible. Another question, do you feel
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like you're the chaser or do you like to be chased?
Oh see, this is so hard for me. I am
definitely I love the chase. I do love the chase.
But I hate games. So that's the problem. I don't
like playing games. I don't like if someone plays games
with me like that immediately turns me away from somebody.
But I love the like I want, but I can't have.
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I love it, but I hate the game of it.
So it's two. I also, even if I wanted to
be chased, I physically can't let it happen. Like I
don't know what it is. If I get a text,
I'm gonna respond to it. If I see you your calling,
I'm going to answer it. If you waited three hours
to respond to me, I'm not gonna wait six I'm
gonna wait three minutes, like I'm I'm I can't help bet.
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It's it's bad. How do you find ways to be
your individual self? Honestly, that's something that I will admit
is a very big flaw in me and relationships in
the past. I never I never did, and I think
that was a combined effort between me and past partners,
for sure. But that is something that I really try
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to figure out in twenty twenty three by being alone,
being looking at my friends, looking at my friends relationships,
seeing how they live, seeing how the ones their traits
that I like, their traits that they don't like, the
traits that I want in a relationship that they have,
the trades that I don't want. And well, my very
good friends Rachel and Abby, there there's a lot of
independence in their relationship. And I really really love that
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I have these other friends who work on cruise ships
and they have massive sense of individuality as well. And
I think that I've learned that that is so important
that I have some friends as well who are very
attached at the hip. I actually I have straight friends
as well who are individual and I have straight friends
as well who are attached at the hip. And I
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see now what I want to be like, and I
see who I want to be like, and I see
what couples I enjoy hanging around as their friend, and
I want to create that space for my friends as well.
And it's tough, but you gotta do what you gotta do. Man,
All right, last freaking question, are you ready? It's massive?
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Do you want to get married one day? You're never
gonna believe this. I know I sound crazy, but you
just got to get on board. When I talk about Freddy,
Eddie and Teddy, I'm very serious. People think in the
beginning I'm joking about it, and they think a long time,
especially because their names are hysterical Freddy, Eddie and Teddy. Also,
if anyone has any middle name, suggestions, poor Freddie, she
(27:08):
needs a middle name yet. Eddie and Teddy they have
their middle names. You've got Eddie, Anthony, Teddy Tyler. But
Freddie doesn't have a middle name yet. But I both
both Eddie and Teddy their middle names are named after somebody,
and so I want Freddie to also be named after somebody.
But I can't. I can't come up with like what
rings like Eddie, Anthony Rings, Teddy Tyler, Teddy ty Like
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that is the cutest little name ever, Teddy Tyler rings.
I was like, Freddie needs like a like what's going
to click? So if you have any suggestions, let me know.
But back to what I was saying is I am
very serious about it, and I really really want babies
and I think that if somebody partner wise comes into
my life and is very serious and very good within
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these next few years, one million percent I would want
to get married. However, I am dead set on the
on little baby Freddie coming here in three or four years,
and so if no one's in my life at that
point in time, kids will be my priority before a
serious relationship and before marriage. And so I think it
is just like a look into the future, what's gonna happen.
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I'm not opposed to being married, but at the same time,
I'm like, oh, I just don't want vibe is. But
I look at Chrishelle and g Flip and I want
what they have so bad. I like their relationship. To me,
I'm just like you two are literally freaking perfect, like
obsessed with them both, and they're both just amazing people.
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And so I'm like this, seeing them married makes me like, oh,
that looks nice. That looks nice. But then you know,
no one's around in the next three or four years.
They're gonna they're gonna be marrying me with a baby,
So it's it's all up for grabs. Man. Oh boy,
this was only the start of the deep dive of
my love life. We have a lot to go in
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hard lessons that I've learned, hard things that I've gone through,
situations that I've never talked about, Situations that I've never
been public about, things that I have been public about
that I regret, things that I regret doing, saying, being
and I will say there's a lot. There's a lot
that I've learned by making mistakes publicly, and uh, that's
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gonna be a fun deep dive and that is going
to I think be a very a good learning curve
and a very good rant session for me, because that's
what I feel like. This podcast is my personal rant session.
But it's gonna be a goodrand session for me because
I've learned a lot of lessons. I've learned that I
want to keep my love life, believe it or not,
private from here on out about my life, but what's
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out there's already out there, and so there's no shame
in talking about it now because it is already out there.
And I think the only thing that I can do
is make things more clear, more be more aware of
what they are, what they were. Uh yeah, that's gonna
be the game plan. So get freaking ready because that
that podcast Deep Dive is going to be a whole
other level good freaking look just on popcorn for that one.
(30:02):
I love y'all. Thanks for listening to joges Now. I'll
see you next time. Peace out. Thank you so much
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