Secrets of Special Forces

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Jojosa Now with me Jojo Ciua and
iHeartRadio podcast. Welcome back to Jojo c One. Now do
I have a podcast for you? Oh my, As you
all know, Special Forces, World's Toughest Test Season two has
been the latest and greatest step in I mean, I

(00:24):
don't want to say career. I want to say latest
and greatest step in my life. Earlier this year, I
had the pleasure of going to New Zealand to film
an incredible show for Fox called Special Forces, but it
ended up being way beyond a show. Anyone who's watched
Special Forces you know what it's about. Anybody who hasn't watched. Basically,

(00:47):
we go into military selection for eight days. Up to
eight days. You can tap out at any time. You
can what's called VW voluntarily withdraw. You can't get eliminated, though,
and so it's your choice. You can if it's medical
and the doctor says you need to go, that can happen,
but it's it's your choice. It's your willpower, it's your

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mental strength, your physical strength that can get you through.
And I I thought I knew what I was getting
myself into, but I didn't, and I had the most
incredible eight days ever. And I'm lucky enough that my
selection experience got to be documented for a TV show.
It's so weird because you know, Special Forces is a

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TV show, but it is in my brain, not not
a TV show. It is the It is the weirdest thing.
And so today, now that the whole show is out there,
the whole show has aired, I wanted to do a
podcast special where I just deep dive into every detail
of Special Forces. Talk about stories, talk about memories, talk
about the other recruits, talk about the ds, talk about

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the task, talk about what you saw, what you didn't see,
what you saw versus what it was with some more context,
talk about the behind the scenes of selection, every minor
detail that I could say in these next few hours,
probably have a podcast. I just want to talk all
about it. I want to read you my journal from

(02:13):
Special Forces that I kept while I was there, and
we'll get into literally everything. And to help me do that,
I have a very very special guest here. I got
my mom. Hey, Hi. I was okay to do this
episode alone, truthfully, but then I was like, you know what,
it's gonna feel weird. I was like, I can only

(02:33):
talk to myself for so long, and my mom and
I have kind of wanted to just talk about Special
Forces and we do a lot, but we always wanted
to like sit down and read my journal together, and
like she could just have a solo asked me questions
without my dad and brother I interrupted, no dogs around,
no friends around, like just you and me. And I thought,

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who better to do this full sit down with deep
diving into special Forces than my mom? Because you're also
not going to be afraid to ask me the things
that some people might not, you know what I mean.
So I think having you here and getting to talk
about this is just she's gonna it's gonna be.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Great because it's not gonna be like a press interview.
It's just gonna be like a real.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Chat chit chat. And I I I cross my heart spreaded,
I hand on a bible. I'm not gonna I'm not
gonna sugarcoat anything. I'm not gonna bullshit anything. I'm also
not gonna embellish anything any stories that I tell. I'm
a straight up storyteller. You know that about me. I
don't embellish the truth. A lot of times my parents
used to think I did. And then they'd find out

(03:36):
what happened and they'd be like, oh, she literally told
it straight up as it was. And I mean with this,
you know, none of the stories need embellishing. They were
all crazy and the stuff we did was crazy. Uh
And so yeah, I think I just want to tell you,
like dig on me, like like asking on you. Okay,
likes you literally everything you can think of. Well, the

(03:57):
truth is like, I'm not really gonna have another chance
to like really tell all these stories like this is
that one moment to really tell everything.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
So and I always tell everybody that visits, like right
now to talk to you about it because I know
you like to talk about it. Yeah, because sometimes people
are afraid. And even my friend's coming out Monday and
she was like, I want to talk to Jojo about
well she mine, and I'm like, no, she loves to
talk about special Forces.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
It's had thing to talk about. I love to talk
about every every single element of it, literally like any
any of it. Okay. I feel like we should just
start back in March when I got the email at
the time, it was an email to do the show.
I got an email from my agent and we were
on set of x MG Pop our girl group their

(04:43):
Moves music video, and I think you actually pointed it
out to me, or did I? I pointed out to me, yeah, mom,
go check the email off because I saw season one
on the show and I was offended. I was like,
why did they not ask me to do this? And
I had been in the Fox Family, which is the
network it's on, so I was like, why did they
not ask me to do this show? Then I was

(05:03):
actually grateful because where it was filmed in Jordan has
some sketchy LGBTQ laws and so I wouldn't have been
able to do it. But luckily where this season was
going to be filmed was in New Zealand because INCREDIBLEOLOGYBTQ laws,
and so I was very lucky that I was able
to say yes. And immediately I told you on said
I was like, look at the email, and I just

(05:24):
dropped into a push up and we were like ready
to go. I was ready to go. And at this
point it was March thirty first when the email came through,
and the filming was going to be at the end
of June, mid June, end of June, top of July. Midgely,
they didn't really know when, so all those dates were
on hold and I actually had another project, two other
projects that were in that time, and I was like,

(05:45):
tell me how to move Like, I can't do it.
I can talk about the project the world knows about.
It was the Dance Mom's Reunion, right. Originally the Dance
Moms Reunion was supposed to be filmed top of July,
and I was like, well, tell them I can't be
there because I'm doing this. So we got the offer.
I said yes, and you were mad at me. I
was like, no, you're not doing that, Jojo. My mom
did not want me to know a show at all. No.

(06:08):
I was already running around, I said that day, telling
everyone that I was doing it. I was like, what
can I do? What can I come up with me?
And I remember I pulled up the trailer and just
started showing everyone and being like, this is what I'm
about to do. This is what I'm about to do.
And a little side story I had done. I had
gotten an offer for a project right before I got
the Special Forces offer that I really wanted to do,

(06:29):
but my team decided ultimately that it was not a
good opportunity. Well it was a good opportunity, but it
clashed with something else too close, and so they made
me say no to it, and I was pretty devastated,
Like I didn't want to say no. You were super
excited about that one too, Yeah, super excited about that one,
and I was stoked about it, talked about the opportunity,
but my team was like, Nope, nope, it's too it's
too similar. And I was like ah, And then I

(06:51):
got the Forces offer and I would have had to
say no to Forces. Would you have rather done the
others versus the cast on that shirt had percent? Also
side note forces lingo. When I say selection, that means
filming essentially. When I say bergen, that means backpack heavy, heavy, heavy,

(07:11):
backpack with a with a sandwagon and we'll get into that.
When I say recruits, that means other cast. That's pretty
much the lingo. Okay, dyes, DS is the leader D
this is the directing staff. Where did you live? What's
that place called the accommodation? Accommodation. The accommodations is where
we slept. The base is where our whole base. Uh.

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The parade square is like the little square in the
middle of our base where we would go out to
like listen to the ds and then they had their
stage on the Paride Square. Then we had the mess
which is where we ate, and then you know, the
doctor's office. We had the dry room, which was basically
like a big sauna. If you think about it like that,
you see the dry room a lot on the dry
room a lot. That's where all the breakdowns happen. Your

(07:55):
wet kit. You have a wet kit, a dry kit.
So a wet kit is if you're wearing. Your kit
is your clothing. So then if you get wet, that's
considered wet kit. And then you have a dry kit
in your bag at all times. We had two dry
kits in our bergains at all times, bergen bag, backpack. Yeah,
we'll get into all that, but that's that's some small
forces lingo. Anyways, I said, yes, you were mad at me,

(08:25):
and then all of a sudden it was time to
go to New Zealand. And I got to go to
the New Zealand a few days actually before it was
Easter Sunday. We have to talk about Eastern side. Yeah yah, yeah, yeah,
So we didn't. We didn't actually talk for a minute,
Like my mom was pretty pretty upset about me. Then
all of a sudden easter rolled around and she made
me an easter basket. She was really proud of this
easter basket. She was like, you're not even ready for it.

(08:47):
You're not even ready for it. And I was like,
you're talking to me again. Okay, sick, Well, we were talking.
I was just annoyed because I didn't want you to
do it. It was your own safety only talking if
we had to. There was no like fun mom daughter
chit chat anymore. It's like she was mad at me.
But I was like, you know what, I'm gonna be twenty.
I wasn't twenty yet. I was still nineteen, and I
was like, I can do anything I want when I'm twenty.

(09:08):
I can say yes to this. Why because I'll be twenty.
That was my mentality on it. You can say yes
to anything. But normally we like agree on it, of course. Yeah,
and this is like a first like disagreement, especially on
a project like normally anyway, So it's Easter Sunday and
she gives me this easter basket and it's all my
favorites from air one and it has healthy food and
it's all this goodie stuff. It was a great basket,
great basket and then it had a bracelet in it,

(09:31):
and I pulled the bracelet out and it said keep going.
And you want to say what you say? I keep going?
So she said the bracelet says keep going, but it
means don't quit. And you know, somebody asked me, They said,
what's the best advice your mom here? And I hear
advice give me. I never took it funny because I
didn't up quitting. I quit with about eight hours remaining,
which we'll jump into. But yeah, then she was like,

(09:54):
I've come to terms. This's just on Easter. She's like,
I've come to terms with it. You're doing it, and
now I just have to embrace it. And it was
sensitive though, like anything you're like, this means you're okay,
Like you're okay, and I'm like, yeah, like it's gonna
be okay. But you weren't okay. I just you were fighting. Yeah,
it still was a sense of subject like now we
would have mother daughter chit chat. But if I was like, hey,

(10:15):
I'm going in the garage to break in my boots,
you would be like annoyed. You'd be annoyed. Yeah, So
speaking of then I got my boots in you know
what I mean, so excited. I did not take those
things off my feet, they said. I asked them of
the Season one recruits. I was like, hey, any advice,
and they were like, break in your boots, and so
I did you know? Once I got my boots in

(10:35):
the mail, they asked me for my shoes. I set
it in right away and I did not take those
boots off. They came everywhere with me. They got worn.
I worked out in them somehow, though I didn't break
them in enough, like I mean crazy, And they actually
sent me a few pairs. They sent me a pair
that was my pair that I wore, was my first
pair that I got, and they were they were too big.
So I was like, hey, they're too big. Can you

(10:56):
send me a smaller size. They sent me a different brand,
small size that was still too big, and I was like,
all right, the other ones are more comfortable. They were
faster to put on. I was like, I'm sticking with
the originals, even though they're a little big. So my
boots are actually a hair big on me. But I
was like, you know what, I'd rather have a big
than small. Yeah, did you ever know that I knew?
You said? They were big. Yeah, they were a little big,
but I didn't mind because then I could get them off.

(11:17):
I'd have wiggle room, like you don't want.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
To get like blisters, because I didn't rub weird or anything.
Of course I had blisters.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
We all had blisters, but I think breaking them in
so much like when I I did get blisters when
I was breaking them in at home. Yeah, and then
when I got there, the blisters were not as bad.
And now I was thinking too, because like you said,
your feet were cold a lot. Yeah, they probably shrunk
down a little bit too, I'm sure. Yeah, probably even bigger.
Yeah yeah, yeah, oh god, these boots they went through it,

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but like crooked. Now my one boot is criokeet. So
what I did is when I got back to my hotel,
I literally took my shoes off and put them in
my suitcase. I unlaced them however they were, and I
ripped them off and I just put them away and
I was like, do not touch them, do not move
the laces like I want to preserved. And yeah, we
have them in a case now at the house. All right,
let's cut to now I'm going to New Zealand. You

(12:10):
can't come with me because you have Look, you could
have come with me, and for a point in time,
you were going to come with me. And what happened
was XOMG Proper Grow Group had some performances. And the
thing is, my mom didn't want me to be in
New Zealand a loon in case something happened I ended
up out a hospital. She wanted somebody there with me,
which is so valid and I'm very grateful for that. Luckily,
nothing happened, and I was fine, you know what I mean,

(12:32):
But she didn't want me to go alone. And totally understand,
but I was like, you have priorities with XOG. It's
silly for you to come to New Zealand to sit
in a hotel room. And also I never really told
you this. You're going to be mad at me and
you're going to get offended. We're going to get offended. Okay.
I didn't want you to come to New Zealand because
I knew.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
I know.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
I'll tell you why though, Because I knew I was
going to be in the hotel room for fourteen days,
eleven days, Yeah, dramatic. I was gonna be in the
hotel room for eleven days. And I knew the flight there,
you were going to be a head case in the
hotel room. You were going to be so mad at me.
Imagine the day before selection, you would have you would
have like you you you didn't want me to do
it so bad, So the flight going there with you

(13:14):
would have been so hard. It would have been different.
It would have been so I mean, I would have
been like a two year old. I would have been
like supportive, a temper tantrum. But I would have known
your support was fake. I knew your support was fank
even when we were here. Imagine in New Zealand. I
imagine imagine me waking up fake Okay, it's six in

(13:37):
the morning in New Zealand. We're still on American time,
so who knows what times on I'm on it's freezing
cold and pitch black outside, and I'm like, I'm going
out for a run. That exactly. Yeah, okay, Because even
when you called me and you're like I'm out running
by myself, I'm like, is someone with you? But in
my head, I'm like no, and I'm going to selection,
like I gotta like, you know, I don't want you
to get kidnapped. Well I did that anybody literally and

(14:00):
you know what I mean, Like I know, you know
what I mean. Yeah, I guess it was like, of course,
like I wanted you there, but I knew for the
sake of what I was getting myself into, the best
thing would have been for you to not be there
to like probably.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
If I would have come, we should have just been separate,
like we could have worked it out that way, Like
I flew different, I got my own hotel room, but
I just wanted somebody to be there in case something happened.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Like even with so my friends ended up coming, Rachel
and Abby, and even with them, you were like, make
sure that they do not leave the hotel, and I
was like, mom, they're not gonna sit on their ass
in the hotel. About eight days, I was like, want
is Abby's birthday? They're gonna go do things. And I
was like, dude, like they're not going to Australia, like
they're gonna stick in the zone, but they're gonna go

(14:46):
do things. You're like, they need to be in five minutes.
I just wanted them to be close.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
I just want to I wanted somebody to be there
for you if you needed.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
That's not such a bad thing. It's not that it
was just funny. Like I will say, my expectation going
into it versus the reality of it was a lot different.
I did understand like, oh no, yeah, they should stay
close to the hotel. In reality, our base was two
hours away from the hotel, you know what I mean.
We didn't know that. It didn't matter where they were.
But anyways, so that's that's that. So finally in New Zealand,

(15:19):
I remember when I said goodbye to you guys, and
I was going to meet Rachel Nabbey at the airport.
But saying goodbye here was very, very hard. We weren't
going to see each other. It was only going to
be gone in New Zealand for nineteen days, but we
weren't going to see each other for like thirty days
because of the way that the schedules worked out, and
it was hard. It was hard to say goodbye. It
was hard because we knew where I was going. It
wasn't like I was going on a tropical vacation with

(15:40):
my girlfriend. It was like, yo, I'm going to Like
at the time, we were like, yeah, it's gonna like suck
a little bit and be hard, but like I'll be fine,
Like I didn't know actually how hard it was going
to be, and so I didn't know that I went
to Vegas when you left? Did you really just to
distract yourself? Just really good night? Honestly? Yeah? Smart, like
I just got to get out of here. It's like, yeah,

(16:02):
I don't blame you. And then yeah, I flew to
New Zealand And, which is far is very far. We
were in the southern Island New Zealand. We were in Queenstown.
We didn't fly into New Zealand though, we flew into
somewhere and then took a flight to Queenstown. What's crazy
too is our cover story. I was able to memorize

(16:22):
it because when I saw it it was the same
flight that I took. It was lax to Auckland, Auckland
to Queenstown flight n Z eight one to one or
whatever it was. I don't remember it exact, but at
the time I was like, that was my same exact
flight I was on. I can memorize that super easy.
Is that crazy? Yeah? I thought was helpful me. Rachel
and Abby had a lot of fun together. We when

(16:43):
we flew to New Zealand. It was just fun, like
we we all ended up in one airplane seat at
one point in time, like it just was fun. And
then we we Kelly Rizza was on our flight. Okay,
so Rachel was texting. I was like, Yo, someone by
your show was sitting by me, and I said, who
isn't Kelly Rizzo? It's like Google and I saw who
Kelly Rizzo was, and so then I texted, and you know,

(17:04):
we kind of figured out like one person. And then
Kelly was like she knew another person that was doing
the show. Was like, I think she told me about Jack.
She knew Jack was cool. Yeah, so and I knew
Kelly and Jack were doing it right, So that was
kind of like the first people that I figured out
was doing the show. And then she knew about a
basketball player but she didn't know who. And then she
was like in a couple of other people like that,

(17:26):
like no one knew but yes, did you never know
on reality TV? Yeah? I know. Anyways, we get to
New Zealand and it was great. We got to the hotel.
Our hotel was beautiful, it was called the Millbrook. We
were going to stay there. I was going to be
there for like eleven days, kind of get acclimated to
the climate, you know, get it so early. I went

(17:47):
to early. When I got there, Tyler had like just
found out that he was going to do this show. Yeah, crazy, right, yeah,
it's crazy. Once we figured that out, we were like,
well he found out like three days befo where I
got there. That's crazy. That wow. Yeah, And they kept
pushing filming back. So originally it was top of June,
then it was mid June, then it was end of June,

(18:07):
then it was top of July. Then it was kept
getting pushed back. Ended up being though we got to
the Millbrook, I was gonna have like eleven day and
queen Town, Queenstown, gonna have the time of my life.
And U went out Day one, went to I Fly
had got back to the hotel and the crew was like, hey,
the welfare team. They were like, hey, Paparazzi knows you're here.

(18:31):
You can't leave the resort, and I was like, sick. Great.
So we were on this like golf course was beautiful,
and I was like, all right, well, I guess I'm
just gonna occupy my time training and getting used to
the weather and figuring out who else is doing this show.
Like that's I knew everyone's gonna be staying there, and
so I spent the rest of the ten days, you know,
running around in a T shirt and shorts, and mind you,

(18:51):
it was freezing. My my friends were wearing like snow clothing.
Oh okay, yeah, and it was like freezing and I'm
running around in like biker shorts and a T shirt
or a sport and I was like, I'm just trying
to get used to the weather. It's literally that called
for me did not get used to the weather. It's
fine running hills, thinking that I'm training and taking like
selfies on top of the mountain. Yeah. Having the time

(19:12):
of my life at the Millburg Resort, going to a
little coffee shop, eating healthy, taking electro lights, carving up,
doing some burpie is like thought I was training. I
was doing nothing when I went back at it. But
it was fun, you know. Yeah. Queenstown, New Zealand, it
doesn't get light out until about like ten am, and

(19:32):
then it got dark at about four pm, so it
was very little daylight. So I would wake up to
go for a morning run at eight and be pitch black.
And then if I was like, oh, I'm gonna go
to a night workout at seven pitch black. That's great.
It was awesome. Yeah, it was fun though. I just
I mean, I was living my best life. I was chilling,
and then came time. I never told you about this,
so I brought my like cute little outfit to wear

(19:53):
for when we got like when we're gonna go. I
brought this like really cute off and I was stoked
about sending my photos and they're like, oh, that's not
warm enough. And I was like, well, I'll be fine
and it's not warm enough and I was like, but
it's cute. They're like, it's very cute, but it's not
warm enough. I was like, I swear, I'll we find
I've been running in shorts and a T shirt, like
I promised, don't worry about me, and they like jojo,

(20:14):
our health and safety team is not approving this outfit.
And I was like, okay, we'll go shopping. So then
I got app able to go. I ended up going shopping.
I was like, look, this isn't gonna work. I just
got to go. So I ended up we were trying
to send someone for shopping and I was like, nah,
I just got to go. So I went out, went
shopping and got some cute outfits, brought them all back
to the room, found, picked and choosed. No, I'm sorry,

(20:35):
I'm lying that that was before when I went shopping
for Abby to get her an outfit, because I went
shopping for bras and underwear. No no, no, no, no no no.
This is so when I needed that clothes is when
I couldn't leave the resort. Yeah, yet reached an abbey.
It was when they facetied me and they sent me
photos and I was like, just get it all. We
bought like four thousand dollars like a like a kind

(20:56):
of like a like Dick Sporting good stuff store. Okay,
there was a lot of there cold there, so there's
a lot of a lot of options, and I mean
we spent like four grand on like snow clothes. And
after they were like, we're going skiing, and I was like,
just take this clothes, like oh that's cool. Yeah. I
was like I don't care, take what you want. And
they were like we'll return the rest and I was
like no, literally, you're babysitting me. Like take whatever you want,

(21:18):
just stay close to the resort. Yeah. So then I
ended up having a better outfit send it in everyone
like did it was great? The little Kaki jacket, little
Kakki outfit. And I was like, I'm still making it
fashion on top, but I swear I have thermals on under.
And they were like, okay, that's fine. So then I
did my Master interview and that day, and that's your
one with your Sequence shirt and your pinking a Sequence

(21:39):
shirt and the picker bones so that yeah, the piggyons.
So that happens before you go to selection. Okay, so
you're there and you do the Master and you don't
really know what you're talking about, right, But now on
the way to my Master interview, my driver he was
like he said something actually that really stuck with me
throughout the whole thing, and I'll get into that. He

(22:00):
we I asked him. I was like, so, like have
you seen him set up or like do you know
what's going on? Like do you know what anything? And
he was like, oh, get ready And I was like
what do you mean? And he was like, I can't
talk about it, but like get ready. And I was like,
have they been like doing water stuff and he was like,
oh yeah, he's like we've watched them, not even like
the crew. He was like, citizens in Queenstown have been
watching them rehearse all of your guys stuff that you're

(22:21):
doing for the last few weeks. It's like no way.
He's like yeah. And I was like is there water
and he was like, yeah, lots of water. And I
was like, okay, just tell me this. What kind of
wildlife is there? And he was like, we have no
wildlife that can hurt you here. And I was like,
I was like, even in the water, because my biggest
fear at the time was sharks, and he was like

(22:42):
even in the water. He was like, there's no wildlife
in Queenstown that can harm a human. And I was like,
thank god, that's amazing. So that gave me a really
big sense of relief. But was he like get ready?
Like he was like it's gonna be nice. Yeah, he
was like get ready. And then as did scare you? Yes, yeah,
did your like heart fall? I was just like, okay,
here we get I mean like I watched his lawn,

(23:02):
but like I was like, I don't know what to expect.
And then as we were we're still driving the master
interview and he goes he goes right over in this
area is where your guys's bases, and so me being me,
I'm like, ooh, Apple Maps, and so I went on
Apple Maps and I saw like the direction that he
pointed was where a place called Milk Lake, and so

(23:22):
I sent that to you, being like, this is where
we're gonna be. And I didn't see it before, but
I knew that's where it was because that's what he said.
And so then I was able to like kind of
google it, kind of like see it, and it was
I mean, it was it was beautiful. It's awful, but beautiful. Anyways, Uh,
so I go to my master interview. You don't really
know what to expect. You was freezing while I was

(23:43):
doing the master interview. Really yeah, freezing because they could
have have like heater on because it was loud. And
the master interview lasts probably three hours just talking. They're
asking you everything because they have to, you know, accommodate
for every challenge, right and accommodate for whatever your story
might be there. I don't really know. And so you know,
they're asking you about everything. They're asking you about stories

(24:04):
about family, about how do you feel about water, how
do you feel about helicopters? How do you feel about
jumping off a boat, how do you feel about going backwards?
How do you feel about the dark, how do you
feel about sharing a room? Like everything they can think of?
And uh yeah, your Master interview gets deep. Were you like,
was your mind racing? Like because you knew it was
they were doing. I more so was like, Okay, they
didn't ask me about tear gas, and so I knew

(24:27):
we weren't going to get anything with tear gas. They
didn't ask me about fire, and so I knew we
weren't going to do anything with fire. Did Season one
have tear gas and fire? Yes? Okay? And we found
out in New Zealand it's actually illegal amaze anything with
tear gas. Yes, we love New Zealand. But then I
knew like, okay, submerged in water okay, cold water okay,

(24:49):
driving like the things they asked me about. And so
then while we were there, you know, we kind of
were like, okay, well, in my Master I was asked this,
well you asked none of us were asked about fire, Kay,
there's nothing with and none of us were asked about
gas or stuffing with gas, you know what I mean.
So like we kind of all chit chatted about what
we were talking about, and you could figure it out,
but not everything, like it's so unpredictable. Uh So I

(25:11):
did my master interview and like two days later selection
and the whole time you're there, we have this incredible
welfare team. My two main welfare people's names were Jay
and Kate, and they were so amazing. They were great
while we were at the hotel, and then when we
go just section you never see them. Wow. Found out
after the fact though. They are watching us around the
clock to make sure that we are like okay, you're

(25:34):
not okay, but they're making sure that you're like not okay,
but okay. Yeah, and so yeah, because I when I
when I left, Kate was one of the first people
that I saw, and I mean you would have thought
that I saw like you did you just hung her, yeah,
like literally just like crashed into her arms and she
was like, you did so good, you did so good,
love it, you did so good. How old is she?

(25:56):
She's maybe a little bit older than me, a little
younger than Rachel, Okay, like I would say twenties, twenties. Yep.
She was so nice and I just remember seeing her
and I actually saw her one day outside of base,
you rarely saw crew rarely. One day I saw her
and I just like looked at her. I was like,

(26:16):
I just want to hug right now. And I told
her that when I saw her again, because you couldn't
speak to him even if you saw him, and I
was like, I just wanted to come and hug you.
And she was like, you have no idea, I just
wanted to hug you. Yeah. So anyways, they were great though.
I was at the hotel so accommodating, so nice, so helpful. Uh,
and then yeah, I woke up and I asked her

(26:36):
before I went to sleep. I was like, do you
know what my call time is? And she was like,
we're picking everyone up between six and nine. Be ready
at six. And I was like, okay, it's me. I'm going.
I'm oh, I'm you somehow knew you were gonna. I
literally said, I'm gonna be one of the first people
to get pulled. I just know it. And I was
sure enough. I was. Actually I think I was the
second person to get pulled. I think Brian was the
first person. Brian Austin Green and Oh. I forgot a

(27:00):
story when we were when we were training in the
apartment a hotel, we couldn't use the actual gym, and
so the special Forces team made like a makeshift gym
in a hotel room. And by a makeshift gym, it
was not a chim It had a treadmill and elliptical,
a rowing machine that didn't work, and a bike, and
then it had one forty pound dumbell, one twenty pound

(27:23):
dumbbell in two ten pounds. It was not a gym.
And I was like, Okay, we're gonna make it work.
This is fine, this is fine. Anyways, while we were
in there, one day I found a sheet that had
a map of the hotel, a dot on every room
and then the room number with everyone's initials by it.
And so for the ten days that I was there,
I was like, oh, I'm making this my mission to

(27:45):
figure out everyone who's here. Figured out Savanna Chrisly figured out,
Brian Austin Green, I figured out. I didn't figure out
Robert Horry, didn't figure out Dez. I ended up seeing
Nick Viele in a coffee shop at the hotel, and
Rachel Abby recognized him, and I was like, okay, cool,
Like who knew that that was gonna become my early,

(28:06):
didn't know about Tyler. I actually saw Aaron with my
own two eyes, but didn't know she didn't know who
she was. Then we figured it out, googled Olympic, Olympic
people with initials E J, and then I saw her
picture and then yeah, Aaron Jackson. She's a skater. So
I kind of spent my time figuring out who some
of the recruits are. Uh yeah. So then for day

(28:28):
one we go to selection. Do you want to tell
them Brian Houston Green story how you surprised him? Oh? Yeah,
so I So, Brian and I were we were really
good friends from Dancing with the Stars and so when
it was time to shine and I saw that he
was he was there, I was like, oh my god,
I'm gonna go to his room and just surprise him,

(28:48):
just go knock on his door. So I called called
Sharna actually because I didn't know for sure if it
was him, but like, who else has the initials B
A G. And so I called his girlfriend Sharna and
I was like, Hey, where's Brian And she was like,
oh baby, he's in New Zealand about to film show.
What's up? And I was like, oh my god, I'm
here too. She was like, no way, he's gotta lose

(29:08):
his mind. And I was like, yes he is. I
was like, is he here here? And she was like no,
he's flying in today. And I was like, all right,
text meeting leans, don't say anything, but I'm gonna go
to his room and surprise him. So then I go
to his room and I surprise him. And you weren't
supposed to know any when I was there, and you
were supposed to each other. So then he was like
shut up. And so then I went to his room.
We hung out for a little bit and then all
of a sudden, production comes knocking on us, and I

(29:30):
was like, oh my god, So went I just go
run and hide in his bathroom and I'm just like
productions having like a ten minute meeting with him. Productionally
he's I come back out, they come back. I go
hide the bathroom again. That was fun. And then another
time I snuck into Savannah Christly's room, uh huh, found
out she was there. We started messaging on Instagram and
she was like, dude, can you come help me with
my hair for my master interview? And I was like

(29:51):
of course, So I went up to her room helped
her with her hair. I ended up leaving my comb
in and she was like, oh, the welfare team's coming
in five minutes. Leave, so I left. Then I ended
up leaving my cold in her room and I was like, hey, dude,
I need my colle and she's like okay, and I
was like, I'm gonna go for a jog. Drop it
off your balcony in like three minutes. So then I
go for a jog and like jogging and circles around
her balcony that she comes out. I just catch it

(30:11):
and just keep running like that's hilarious. I didn't know
that that was that was funny. What she did help
with her hair with like what she wanted me to
braid it, but then I didn't end up breaking it.
I was like, girl, looks good. Let's just leave it
because I was thinking of her interview. I was like,
what did you do? Yeah, no, she wanted braids, but
then she was like, actually gonna like to wait it
ended up and I was like, no, girl, you look great.
We're like yeah. So then they we all got picked

(30:43):
up early in the morning and we drove to base,
which was not to Base. I'm sorry, we drove somewhere
we never knew where we drove. We drove to the
top of a mountain, uh, and we waited for hours.
So when they picked you up, you were just like
a regular person, though you weren't blindfolded her. We just
picked up in a production car, like went up, drove

(31:04):
maybe an hour away, and then we got miked. It
was first time you got your waist pack and your
necklace mike, and you put it on and then you
sat in the car. I fell asleep in the car
waited for everyone to get miked. At some point, Kelly
was like, I gotta go to the bathroom. And they're like,
all right, just go right down there, and we're like
she was like okay, So then she goes right down
there and squats. And I was like, well, I don't

(31:25):
got to go, but like I'm here for the adventure.
And I went to the bathroom and it was the
first time I had ever squatted. I've never squat indeed,
I mean I'm like a professional at it now, like
I've done it. I mean like you have to control
it would be on my leg or something. You have
to like really like dial it. And I used to

(31:47):
tell all the boys all the time because you know,
we'd go this is so wrong. We're like we'd go
piss together, and like I would be like squatting, and
like Tyler and Jack would be right there. I'd like,
you guys don't know how lucky you have it, the
fact that you can be so easily and I have
to like balance and squat and aim. Like, well, y'all
are like and yeah, no wiping, you just like put

(32:08):
your pants back up and cold it a day. Yeah
that's so weird. Yeah, So we got miked whatever. Then
they were like, all right, we're going to go into
these like big They took us in like two vans, right,
two vans. Figuring out the stating arrangements on this van
was impossible. They had half of us in the wrong
van and we had to come back and switch it up.
I ended up being in a van with Brian Black.

(32:31):
China was in my van. I believe Body was in
my van. I believe Samana Christie was in my van.
I don't think Tyler was in my van. I don't
think Nick was in my van. And we were just
split fifty fifty. Yeah, and you're in these again just
like normal humans. And now we are in these vans
like normal humans. We don't know where we're going, we

(32:52):
don't know how long we're driving for. Oh, Dez Bryant
was in my van. It was super nice in my van,
and we're all just having the time of our life. Yeah,
I mean it is a celebrities in a van literally
chit chatting up a store and having fun, like a
bunch of celebrities that never met each other. Like, are
you nervous and you're gonna finish? Like yeah, anyways, Uh,
then literally out of nowhere, I'm talking though, like maybe

(33:13):
two hours in like, oh you're driving for that long?
For so long? Out of nowhere, boom bang gun bow
bow fire, explosion. All of a sudden, door slams open.
Get down, head down, down, move all of a sudden,
like what the oh my god? Like you like didn't
you didn't want to like blink? Yeah? And then one

(33:36):
by one were the drivers in on it? Yeah? Of
course the drivers are the people that opened the door,
were the ds? Yeah? So the drivers the production yeah yeah,
and so so anyways, the DS slam the door open.
Then all of a sudden, one by one, you just
feel a hand grab you and pull you out of
the van and you just hear it. You hear them

(33:57):
like clapping on people's hoods. You hear people struggling to
get out. You hear Tara reeb oh my head. He
hears a man of Chrisly being like, oh, like you
just like you just hear noises and you're just like
waiting for your turn. Anyways, noise back corner of the
bus and in the back corners. I'm like, they're pulling
me last. I already know how this goes, and so

(34:18):
at this point I'm like still in like ooh, we're
making a TV show, right, Like I'm not in this
as like real life mode yet. Anyway, so they come
and he grabs me and dis billy as who came
and grabbed me, and you know, it's a pretty like
it's a pretty stone grab like they're not like gentle
with it. He grabs my like hood of my jacket
and he pulls me out and he's like step down

(34:40):
and your they have your head tucked down, so you
step out of the car. Then he like rips my
head up right, so I lift my head, lift my
head up and like I just see cameras staring at me,
and I was like kind of smiling because like I
don't know here we go well, like no, I was
smiling because like I just got pulled by the hair
kind of hot, like I'm so gay, which is why

(35:03):
I can like talk about it like this, like not
actually attracted to any of the ds, but like pull
me by my hair, like no, wonder I call you
Daddy Foxy. Like anyways, that was Daddy Billy that did that.
So I was like kind of giggly. And then I
get out of the van and I like pulled it
together really fast, and he puts up a hood over
your head. You get the hood over your head. This

(35:24):
is like the black sack. And they take us and
they you can't see nothing. You can't see nothing, uh,
And then they put us in a in a line
on our knees and you're kneeling with your hands on
the person in front of you's back for maybe like
twenty minutes. Then all of a sudden, they just they
say stand up, stand up, but they kind of yank
you up, and then they're like walk and you just walk.

(35:45):
And we don't know where we were walking. We don't
know if we were on the edge of a cliff.
We still don't go to the stake. We don't really
air that. We walked for probbly twenty minutes. We don't
know where, we don't know what. It was pitch black,
and you're just like following the leader walking and then
eventually they shove us back in the car, still with
the hoods overheads. We drive a little bit further. They
take us off, they line us up, they make us

(36:08):
stand again. They we walk some more in a line.
They you put your hands like you're like praying, and
then they carry you by your thumbs and that's how
they guide you. And then das will hold on to
your thumbs and then they like guide you and they
just say walk is It's just weird not being able
to so strange, so strange being like, here's this stranger.
I'm on the edge of a mountain, like I know
we were driving, but like, huh, so strange. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Wait.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
It was the hood like sealed, so like you couldn't
like cheat and peak or like you couldn't cheat and peak,
but you could move it so you could breathe them.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
When they put it on you, they like put it
to your neck, but then you could kind of like
chanaggle it a little bit. So that way you could
breathe better. But yeah, no, it was it was pitch black.
You can't see anything. And then all of a sudden,
they lined us up, got us all standing up, and
they took our hoods off one by one, and you
would just hear them rip someone's hood off to who
are you, tyler? What do you do? Stop smarking at me?

(37:03):
Smoke one more time, and to be the last thing
you ever do, Like you just hear him talking. Then
you hear God. I don't remember who they did, do.
I think it was Savannah Risley and they took her
hood off and they were like, who are you? And
she's like, my name is Savannah and they were like,
what do you do? She's like, I'm gonna really, I
don't care, and then you know, he ripped Billy, ripped
my hood off. Dyes, but Billy I eventually got picked
and he ripped my hood off. Who are you? My

(37:26):
name is Jojo, and he's like, what do you do?
I was like, I don't even remember what I said.
And he was like, now you're a number, Jojo? How
does that feel? And I was like, kinky, But I
didn't say that That's what I thought and he was like,
he was like, I don't like you. And I was like, oh,
and they actually aired that and I have that written

(37:48):
down in my journal and I was like, Wow, that's
my new mission to make this man like me. He
really said he doesn't like Yeah, but I was like, Oh,
you're gonna like me. I was like, you don't know
it yet, because look going into it, I know what
I look like. I know I look like I'm a
twenty year old influencer prick. I know I look like
I'm a ball of energy that never shuts up and

(38:10):
doesn't have a serious bone in her body. I know
that's what I give off. But when you meet my core,
I'm so far from that and so a piece of me.
It was like, you don't even know you think you
know me. I don't even know you're gonna love me.
Just start on Instagram person like yeah, And in my head,
I'm like, you want a hard worker. You want someone

(38:31):
who's gonna take this shit seriously. You want someone who's
gonna care, who's gonna fight for the team. You ain't
gonna get anyone better than me. Like, if you want
someone who works hard, I'm a girl. If you want
someone who's not like that's yeh. But but I know
that I don't look like that. I know I don't
give off that vibe. But I know that's my brain.
And so I was like, you know what, like just

(38:51):
just you're gonna like me. So you were thinking I
don't like you either. Oh no, I was like, oh no,
I have a mission. Yeah. And then all of a sudden,
you know, they take us, They take us all off.
They tell us to turn around and we see the trenasium,
which was our first challenge, and I saw that and
I was like, okay, here we go, all right, and
you just see a man do it. We didn't know

(39:13):
who the man was at the time. It was DSQ,
but we didn't know who he was. And you just
see him doing it and you're like, ah, that was
pretty easy. They're on a rope, they fall ropes, gotch
you cool. So we turn back around and they chuck
you your kit, chuck it in trash bags, and then
they're like, and go but your kid on as fast
as you catch your kids clothing. Yeah, okay, so you
just have your clothing. No berg and yet. And so
they give us our clothing and we put it all

(39:35):
on and all this when you were changing every single
time during Special Forces, anything and everything that could go
wrong went wrong. Shoes, nodded, pants, buttoned, unbuttoned, wrong, buttoned,
shirt inside out and backwards, arm inside out, pant lake
inside out backwards, every single armband missing, and you'd have

(39:58):
to take your whole thing off. I mean, everything that
could go wrong went wrong. And we did a fitting
for a kit before, so you knew everything was gonna fit.
But some people actually had like mismatch, like Tyler and
I think Tom's got swapped. Oh wow, uh huh, and
so like they just like made it work. But like
Tyler and Tom are very different sizes, you know what

(40:18):
I mean. But they made it work and it was
fine anyways. So yeah, you put your kid on and
we had so we had socks and shoes, and then
we had long johns which are like long thumbal pants.
Then our our our battle dress, so that's the green
pants essentially. Then we had our long jawn shirt which
is the gray shirt. Then we had a fleece, a puffer,

(40:42):
a jacket, and then our armband and then our beanie
and our gloves. We were we had a lot of layers,
so everyone puts everything on it. We all look like shit.
It's so mismatch. If you watch a difference in everyone's
choreography and their outfits from episode one to episode three
when I became wardrobe police, it is actually insane. Like

(41:04):
episode three, four, five, six, seven, and eight, no one's
out of place in her outfit. That's because of me,
and all the boys will attest to that, and the girls.
Everyone will attested that. Anyways, So we all put our
clothes on and it's like just strip. Like I literally
look over and I see Brian in his boxers. I
was like, what the And like Brian was the only
one that I knew at this point, so I was like,

(41:25):
why am I seeing him in his bo Okay, Kelly's
in her underwear, Like this is just so frange cool, great,
And then I just step out there and then you know,
it was just helping you. But like everyone's helping each other,
like just get each other dressed, like make it happen.
Then freezing, freezing, but you're the cold is the last
thing you're thinking about at this point. So that is

(41:47):
trenasium time, and they call Kelly to go first, and
we're like, all right, I go get him Kelly, And
I mean if I would have had it gone first,
I would have been shitting bricks. So you just see
Kelly and she goes and she failed. She but fell
and I saw her hit her leg and I was like, oh,
that looks like it hurt, right, That's why my mom
didn't want me to do Yeah, And then someone else
went second. I don't remember who went second, or maybe

(42:07):
maybe Brian did go second. Brian went before me, and
so I saw Brian go and he fell and he
clipped his leg and I was like, ooh, that hurt.
So then I go okay, And now when I go
over to the dasym, they're like, you need to take
this shit seriously. I was like, oh, you have no idea.
I am like, I really am, like I know what
I looked like, like, I mean, really serious person. While

(42:29):
I was waiting for my turn, I was doing push ups,
I was doing planks, I was practicing walking and waddling.
Like there's no like ten minute totorial on how to
do this, like let's try it on like a practice,
or it's like here, look at it, huh, and now
go do it. There's no lesson on how to do it?
Do you know? That's when you were little used to
say you can wonder how everyone else is doing things,
or you can just try to figure it out. Yep,

(42:50):
that is this. It's just this anyway. So I go
down and as I'm going down, you have to like
go through like you have to go on this bridge
and then you have to go in a hole and
then you go down a ladder and then you're on
a platform. And what the Grenadium was was two platforms,
two wobbly ladders in between the two platforms with like
a bar in the middle that you had to step
up and over, and then a drop three hundred foot drop,

(43:12):
like just crazy, unreal. There was a rescue team at
the bottom too, just in case like crazy, So that
was reassuring. So I was like go down. And as
I'm going down the ladder, my safety rope locks and
you see me in the episode kind of like flying
around like a ferry and DS Billy's like get down,
and you hear me giggle. Well, what actually happened was

(43:36):
my rope got locked, my safety rope, and so I'm
dangling there right and he's like get down. I'm like
I can't, and he's like, get you'll ask down now,
stop fooling around. I was like, no, literally, look like
I can't get down, like the rope is holding me up.
And he was like, oh all right, and so then
the team fixed it and it came down. So now
in my head, I'm like, shit, this is gonna be

(43:57):
easy if I got resistance like that, That's what I thought,
because like, I mean, the rope blocked me like that,
and now I'm gonna be set. The second you touch
that platform unlocked, it is a loose cannon, no safety nothing,
It is loose. So I was like all right, and
then you step onto this. I mean, the ladder is
probably an inch and a half thing and you step

(44:21):
on and it is wobble nation and Billy the whole
time is eyes forward, don't look down, don't fall. You
look like a baby waddling too. Mama, Come here, mama.
Where when like he's just poking and poking and poking
at you, I was just like, okay, I got this.
Like everyone was kind of hyping me up before. They
were like they were like, you're gonna do it, You're

(44:42):
gonna do it, and I was like, you know what,
I actually might like go slow stand strong. And when
I went when it started raining, so it wasn't raining
for anybody. And then I started the rain, and so
I was like, oh sick. I was like, don't look
down like you saw two people fail, Like, just do it.
I wanted to be the first person that did it.
I was like, that'd be sick and it would have

(45:02):
been so cool. And so I start waddling and I'm
doing great, doing the best out of everybody so far.
Pass go to touch my toes and I stand back up,
and the dancer on me is like touchto stand up
like easy peats. Well, what happened was as I went
too fast because I just was like, all right, just
stand up, and my hips just got a little under me.

(45:22):
And I watched everyone else fall and hit their leg
or their hip or their back, and I was like
absolutely not. Billy said, dude, He's like, if you're gonna fall,
just fall. And so that's why I just like sucked
in the middle because I was like, going down, don't
hit your head, don't hit your leg, just go down.
And so when I knew I was going down, I
was like, don't even fight for it. I was like,
just go down. And so then I went down and

(45:44):
I was like, dang it, Like I was mad at myself,
and I got over to Billy, and Billy was like,
you know what you actually did all right? Like I
thought you were going to do it, and I was
like thank you Stappan. He was like, but you did it.
You failed, and I was like, valid failed. Then I
go up to crawl up the ladder again. So you're
now on the other platform. Oh mind you after now,
so you're dangling. They pull you up. You have to

(46:04):
get your feet back on and they put resistance on
it now and you still have to waddle across, just
with resistance now. So either way, all of us waddled across.
Just if you failed, you then got resistance and it
was just as hard. Like I mean, okay, that's a lie.
It was not just as hard with resistance. It was
much easier with the resistance because he just felt safer.
But like it's you still had to do it. That

(46:27):
really sucks. Yeah, so you weren't free from it once,
you know, once you felt you still had to do it. Yeah,
Is that because that was the only way to get
you out or like yeah, they could have like probably
swung you. But like yeah, it was just the easiest.
That's not gnarly. So then I go up and I
go to Foxy DS Foxy and after every task, you
know a few of the DS would give you like

(46:48):
a creature, right, So go to das Foxy and he's like,
and I'm going to be own a swift. Y'all thought
you had it. Then I blinked and you failed. And
I look at him dead and I was like, so
what you're saying is next time you shouldn't blink, and
he I mean if that is when I learned never
speak to the DS out of touch like that. He

(47:11):
was like, a fuck goal with your comments, and I
was like, nope, valid, valid. I shouldn't have said that.
I should not have said that. That was very disrespectful
of me. I should have So I was like sorry
staff and ran away. But but again he kind of
like hyped me up. So then I go across the
bridge and I go over DSQ and DSQ goes, I'm
gonna be honest with you. I was like, yes, Staph,

(47:32):
he goes, you looked like a bag of ass out there,
and I literally was like, he's right, I did. I did.
I had a shot to look really cool, and I
failed get your shit together, huh. And that is when
I learned I'm way too hard on myself looking back,
but I really took that and I was like, you did,
look stupid, you failed. Don't do that anymore. And I

(47:55):
was the only person there that was really hard on
myself about failing tasks. Then we go back over and
you have to wait for everyone to finish, and we
all got really thirsty, and so mind you, we're probably

(48:18):
in like six hours deep at this point. We're all
really thirsty, and so we see water jugs and we're like, hey, staff, like,
can we fill these drugs up? And they're like, go quick.
So we go and me and Tom Sanderval we're helping
everybody fill up water jugs. Okay, they're like, all right,
that's enough. Tom and I didn't fill ours. Fuck. So
we start filling ours and I start filling Tom's and

(48:38):
they're like, I said, that's enough for you to get
your ass back over there and getting a plank. Fuck.
So now Tom's is filled, Mine still not, uh uh.
So we're in a plank down, up, down, up, doing
pushups while everyone's just watching us. They're like, when we
say something you listen to us, and we're like okay, valid.
So then everyone felt really bad that I didn't fill
up the water. Yeah that's the only one now that

(48:59):
didn't have a wall. And everyone at this point was
trying to share with me. I'm a germophobe. I don't share.
I don't share drinks, I don't share food. And I
was like, no, no, I'm alright, I'm all right, Like
I would rather have been thirsty. I was like, I
will be thirsty, I will eventually get water. I'm not
sharing with these strangers. That's an important detail. That is
an important detail even to this day, like the fact

(49:19):
that like, wait till I tell you about dinner at
Nicks the other night. Okay, anyways, and the concert story
with nicksho so yeah, I was like, no, I'm not
sharing waters, No, no way. I was like I'm good, guys,
thank you, I'm not really that thirstay porched. So then
everyone ends up finishing like no drinks of water, no
drinks of water. Still have not taken a drink of water.

(49:40):
We get into the cars now and we don't know
where we're going there, Like all right, when I say move,
you move into those vehicles. Move so we go into
the cars. We get in the cars and we start
driving and we're starving now at this point because it's
like now probably like four o'clock since breakfast. Yeah, and
so we're starving, and all of a sudden we see

(50:00):
like these four brown bags up by the driver and
we're like, what do you think is in those bags?
There's four bags, there's four of us in the car, like,
what is it? And we were like, hm, we should
ask for them, and like the drivers can hear us,
were like, no, we shouldn't ask, And then like all
of us were like, you think, like, look if all
four of us ganged up on that driver, like we

(50:20):
could take them, Like we could take the driver for
the brown bags. And so finally we asked to drive.
We're like, hey, what are those do you got any snacks? Like? Oh,
those brown bags by chance for us? And the driver
was like and then all of a sudden someone just
reached for them and we could take them, but like
we had to like take the initiative to do it
real in the brown bag was our lunch. Oh, And

(50:42):
we didn't take them for about an hour into the
car ride. Oh, and then finally we grabbed them, and
there was four four bags. Four sandwich is all different
and it was mystery. So I was like, all right,
everyone pick which one you want without seeing it. So
everyone picked two left. There was a long, skinny bigette
and there was a thick one. And I was like, well,
I'm going to be smart that. One of the boys
was like, you can pick and I was like, I
want the thick one, like you, I want the meat one. Right.

(51:04):
I opened it up and it was a smoked salmon
bangel I have like verbally said out loud multiple times
in my life, I hate smoked salmon. I opened it
and I was like, that's what you get for taking
the thicker that's what you get for being selfish that
you hate. Good luck you were just trying to get meat, though.
I ate the whole thing. You would have thought it

(51:24):
was my peanut butter and jelly like by the way
I ate it. It was so good, every bite of
it and now it's like a comfort food. But yeah,
ate every little bite of it. Uh. And and then
I was like, okay, was there water in your rag? Nope,
still don't have water. Still didn't have water. It was
just a sandwich. So then we eventually got back to
base and it was like get on, get on the

(51:45):
bright square. So then we got on the praid square
and that's when they chucked us our burgains for the
first time. And they chucked the burgain and they're like,
don't let it touch the ground, and you know, of
course a few people did. And they're like, this is
your reality. They kind of give us like a duk
on what's going to be. And then they're like, go
accommodations and they point us to the door and you
run in there, right, So you run in there and
then in just a little bit, Daddy Foxy ds Foxy

(52:06):
comes and he's like, all right, let's go. I'm gonna
take you on two of your base. Takes us on
a tour, shows us all around, shows us the mess
the doctor's office, where to go if we need the doctor,
the bathrooms. This is where we can hang out. This
is where you cannot go. You can't go past these lines.
If you want to go to the bathroom, you can't
go this way. You have to go around the long way.
You have to jog everywhere. You have to go in
buddy system, you have to go in pairs. There's a

(52:27):
lot of rules, and we got the rundown that night,
and then we didn't know what to expect for the
rest of the night, you know, we kind of At
some point they said, dinner's ready, mess is ready, and
they assigned duty recruit and first duty recruit I believe
was black China, and so they assigned her duty recruit.
And so they said, whatever you need to do to recruit,

(52:48):
you know, you go to the rock. And so she
went to the rock and they said dinner's ready, and
then she came and told us that dinner was ready,
and so we go in. You had your little fucking
silver tin canister that you took with you go in
and it was like rice, peas and carrots and chicken
and white juice. The chicken and white juice was sucks
as fuck, but the rice and peas. I was thriving,

(53:11):
literally my meal before I left. I had my best
friend make me rice peas, carrots and chicken. Like it
was just like my dream. Did you have a water?
I'm still like, God, give my k once I got
the basic, I didn't get water, okay, Yeah, so then yeah,
we we we ate dinner and I was like, it's
actually not a bad like, I mean, you're starving, so

(53:32):
it's like it is what it is. I love the
white rice, the peace. I was thriving last night. And
then you know, we all just kind of like wander
back to O accommodations. You don't know what's gonna happen.
Pick where you slept in the room. No, so you
go in and you had a bed and a box
with your number on, and in your box there was
a robe. You could only wear the robe though if
you were going to her from the shower and you

(53:54):
could only like sleep with it. You could have like
lounge around in your robe. And it was like a big, warm,
dry robe. Some toilet paper, uh, notepad was in our burgains. Uh.
I think the only stuff in there was the toilet
paper and the robe and our our toothbrushes, and you're
gonna they provided you with that. I was sandwiched in

(54:17):
between Tara Reid and Tom Sandaval, and then I ended
up being sandwiched between Jack Osborne and Tom Sandaval, and
then just next to Tom Sandval. I ended up having
the end for a few nights. Okay, Yeah, so then
that was it. We never knew what was gonna happen
that night. We didn't know if we were gonna get
called back out, and then all of a sudden, lights
just went out and our room was pitch black. We

(54:37):
all got our head lamp out, and we're like, okay,
like do we call it a night? And we fell
asleep and everyone, uh the first night we all go
to fall asleep and we're all now exhausted. Yeah, and
so we're all like laying in bed and like people
are noisy. Tom's noisy, Tara was noisy. Tara was snoring,

(54:58):
slooping or drink like just like you're like, just like
over it though, right, So you're just laying in bed
and all of a sudden, out of literally nowhere, Tara
wakes up and goes hood hair has that and Thomas,
I'm talking it is pitch black in the room. Everyone's asleep.

(55:20):
We're all like what and she's like hell and yes,
John and Thomas a liar and you can't understand what
she's say and we're like, Tara, what She's like, my
liar is John and Tom and they said someone else
here has the liar and Jack osboard. I think it
was was like Tara, shut the fuck up and go
back to sleep, and she was like, yeah, I'm so sorry,

(55:45):
and she fell asleep. Hellow her and yeah she's great,
and we all just were like, what the fuck was that? Okay,
so fall asleep. Now we don't know when you wake up.
Thomas's no one, no one, no one now. So the
next day we actually, okay, I should pause there now,
any questions on that first day, first night? Yes, what
were you like?

Speaker 2 (56:05):
So you're the lights go off, you're laying down, You're
laying in your bed? Yes, what are you thinking? Are
you happy to be?

Speaker 1 (56:10):
Genuinely, I was thinking how long do I get to
be here? How long do I get to be in
this bed with these lights off? Will I get How
will I know when to wake up? I was very
stressed about that. I was like, because I don't want
to be the one that doesn't wake up like you'reep
And everyone else is like, yeah, like how will I
know when to get up? And I was very stressed
about that when I was like, just fall asleep, like
you're gonna want to sleep? Uh huh? Was it hard

(56:30):
to fall asleep for me? No? No, you I have
this weird thing where the more uncomfortable I am, the
better I sleep. If I sleep in a warm room
with nice cozy blankets, I will not sleep. But if
I'm on a plane sitting straight up with turbulence, I
will crash, you know what I mean. So like I
slept great, okay, everyone, So we had we had a
sleeping bag, okay, and every single human got out there

(56:54):
sleeping bag at night and this night one and like
laid it out, got in it, took their clothes off,
like slept in just like their long John's and like
a sports bar. The boys slept topless like it just
like didn't matter. They're in their sleeping bag. And I'm
laying on the bed with my full gear still on,
shoes on, laying there with my robe over me, and
everyone's like jojo no, And I was like yes because

(57:16):
at some point they're going to be like get ready now,
And I don't want to deal with putting my sleeping
bag back in my bergen, no, because you never put
it in your bergain in the bottom. Yeah. Taught us
how to arrange our burgen. Oh, that first day we
had to fill our burgen with sandbags. So we had
to make our burgen. It was about twenty five kilograms
and you had to make it from thirty to thirty
five kilograms. I see, I don't just to make it

(57:37):
heavier for training. Oh yeah, okay, yeah, And so that
we had to do. And I was like, I ain't
getting my sleeping bag out from the bottom of my
bag every single night to then put it in. No, no,
no way, that's happening. Because what happened was it went
sleeping bag. I'm sorry. Your whole burgin was lined with
a waterproof bag, and so you would have to take

(57:58):
the sleeping bag was in the bottom of the waterproof bag.
She would have to take all your dry kid out,
all of your accessories out, put your sleeping bag back,
put all your stuff back in, and then put the
stand back in. Sleep bag goes out the bottom. No way,
I'm doing that every night. I was like, you'll leave
it fine. We called. So the first night no Jack
gassed us out with the fire they asked. So we

(58:18):
had all these different jobs. We had firewood, dooty recruit,
washing duty, and cleaning duty. Okay, dotey recruit was in
charge of everybody. Firewood was in charge of chopping wood,
making sure it was always stocked up to the top
in case there was a blizzard. And we couldn't get
out of chopwood. You always had to have it like
double stocked. Cleaning was in charge of like making sure
the accommodation was tidy, and then washing up was in

(58:39):
charge of making sure the dishes got done by day three.
We all just were like, okay, everyone makes sure your
own spot isn't tidy. I always wanted wood, so me
and a boy would always go to the wood, didn't
matter who always was me and a boy. I basically
became dooty recruit. Like I mean, I shouldn't say that,
because doody recruit did have a lot more roles than

(58:59):
I took on the role of like making sure everyone
had it together. That we just kind of thing. And
then Jack really took over washing up, and Kelly, while
Kelly was there, really took over washing up, which was
like prepare the dishes for everyone to be able to
clean them up. Yeah, it was super great. That's not
a great job. No, I hated that job. I never
wanted that job, but I did a lot for everyone else.

(59:21):
Like I just kind of like made it work. Like
we all just wore like be self suspicient, like clean
up your own spot, like just let's get in trouble
for the big things off the small anyways. So yeah,
we we did that. So does the room just like
quiet down and everyone just like we kind of. Tom
would do his arts and crafts in the middle of
the night, so night one, you know Tara's snoring. Tom

(59:44):
didn't do arts and crafts night once, so I won't
talk about that till night too, But yeah, Tara, Tara snoring.
Beds are creaky like it just and no one knows
when to wake up. And if you had a pee,
you had to go with a buddy. And so I
told everybody. I was like, look, I pee like a
freaking dad that drinks too much water. I was like,
if anyone has going in the bathroom in the middle
of night, I'm your girl, pack me up. I don't care.

(01:00:06):
And so I would wake up with anybody and everybody.
You would just hear like, in the middle of the night,
is that anyone to wake the house to go to
the bathroom, And you would listen, and if somebody was like,
yeah I do, you would just like fall back asleep.
But if nobody did, I was always the one that
was like, ya go, And actually Tom Santaval was the
other one that was like, yall go. Me and him
were really good about like going if someone else had
to go, how come I want you to go with somebody.

(01:00:28):
Always have to be in a buddy system in case
I'm just I don't know, in case war strikes, Yeah,
it could happen. Not everybody listened to the Buddy system.
In the beginning. Tom was very bad about listening Buddy system.
He was like, if I just gotta be in the
middle of the night, like I'm just gonna go, Like
I'm fine. We're like Tom, You're gonna get us all
in trouble. Just follow the world, buddy. Uh yeah. So

(01:00:53):
night one. Night one, honestly, like was pretty chill, Like
it was a big fun sleep like we were at
freaking summer care. You're not scared, You're not worried. I
can do that at this point is a vacation. At
this point like ooh spooky, Like we had to like
fall down a ladder. Oh, Like it wasn't too high,
it wasn't too like man, yeah, I mean like we
did it, like everyone got through it. Everyone did it.

(01:01:13):
Like we were chilling. Uh yeah. So then we fell
asleep night one. We woke up all of a sudden,
the lights just like turn on. Oh, they just turn
on out and know we're super bright. And if you
watch when they turn the lights on, you see me
shoot up out of it. I was the first one up,
and I was like, lights are on. Everybody, Like I
think to dressed this day? Yeah, because I stayed in

(01:01:36):
my clothes. Yeah okay, And I mean I'm thinking that
they're gonna come and be like get all the way
to that now. Every day when we woke up, we
had an hour, but I never I was like, I
was waiting for the day when they were going to
like beat our ass in the beginning, but they never did.
They're probably waiting for you to sleep and as wards
for sure. And then eventually the only thing that I
ended up taking off when I slept was my shoes.

(01:01:58):
So I would take my shoes off and I would
put them at the edge of my bed fully like
open and unlace so I could slip them on super fast.
And then what I would do is I would sleep.
If I got too hot, I would take my jackets off,
but I would lay them down like in order so
I could just slide them back on, and I would
sleep with my armband on me, so everyone else will

(01:02:19):
kind of like take their armband off. But I would
sleep with my armband on me and my head lamp
in my hand. That was something that I didn't do
till probably like day four or five, because sometimes in
the middle of the night you would need your head
lamp or what like if somebody had to go to
the bathroom to grab your toilet. People need your head
lamp or see somebody. Yeah, and so I would wrap
my armband on my arm or in my hand. I'd

(01:02:41):
i'd lace it to my hand, or I would put
my and my other hand had my head lamp because
I was like, I just want to be prepared. I
just want to be prepared. All I want to be
as prepared I am prepared. I swear. I want to
make them like you. That was my only mission today too.
We woke up, let's go on. No one knows what
to expect. All of a sudden, you dirty recruit. And

(01:03:02):
so Angela was due to her cruit and homegirl is
out like a light. And so Angela wake up, wake up.
And that's when you see me going over them like
good morning sunshine, like yeah, I could and wake up,
and she did not want to get up. She did
not want to get up, and I was like, oh shit,
here we go. So they called her out and they
were like, breakfast will be up in five. So we

(01:03:23):
go out and we go up to breakfast in five
and uh yeah. We we walk into the mess and
we don't know what to expect for breakfast. And now
now everyone's like, okay, we're here, like it's day two,
like we got this. And we go into the mess
and it's it's breakfast is up and we see a
platter of white toast that's not really toast, it's just

(01:03:43):
like white bread. We see a bowl of jelly, bowl
of dried fruits, pot of oatmeal, pot of scrambled eggs
on our runny and we're like, all right, sick breakfast right,
like chilling at this. I made oatmeal and jelly. Yeah,
mix it up, put some fresh the dried fruits in it,
got some scrap old eggs, ate some toast. By the end,
we didn't know that we were going to get this

(01:04:04):
breakfast every single day. So by the end, this breakfast
got so old. Yeah, to the point where my end
in concoction was I kid you not because you just
wanted to eat fast, literally scrambled eggs, jelly and oatmeal
mixed together, scooped on bread. Shove it in. Why did
you want to eat fast? Because you just didn't know
when you were going to be done eating. That's disgusted

(01:04:25):
and you had to clean your stuff and hum, it
was awful, but like at the time, it was delicious.
I like, I loved breakfast because I knew what we
were getting and I was great. Plain oatmeal and scrambled eggs.
I'm good, Like I can live all that white bread.
I'm good. By the end of it. It was like
fucking eggs and oameal on toast and call it good. Like,
doesn't mean I never thought to put someone like the

(01:04:45):
dried fruit in your pocket? Tom did? Tom did? Tom
saved the drive fruit always huh. I a few times
would take some dried fruit, but he didn't really didn't. Okay,
So I'm gonna read you my day one journal, okay,

(01:05:07):
and then this will kind of maybe maybe lead into
more stories. Honestly, we probably could just do day one
like this has been so much. Let's just do day
one because that's when they found the cigarette tintauris. Yeah,
we can stories that I like have out of schimical
because this is gonna lead into that. This is gonna
lead into the learning the things. I didn't talk about

(01:05:31):
learning the things yet. I made a list of who
I like versus who I didn't like, things I missed. Yeah,
there's so many details to do day one. Okay, okay,
so this now, yeah, okay, Yeah, Like I said, there's
gonna be a lot of parts. I'm gonna do this
day by day because seriously, there's so many stories, and

(01:05:51):
I just I want to go into as much detail
as possible with all of this, and I want to
tell every story that I can think of. Solway it's
out there in the world. I think you're smart to
do that, because I was wishing there would be like
a tell all yeah YouTube and stuff like that. I
have a lot more stories from day one. So let's
hear journal Day one, all right, Journal, Day one Journal.

(01:06:13):
Day one is a full story journal. Day one is one, two, three, four, five, six,
seven eight pages. All right. The eight journal is a
half a page. Like I got really over it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
But these are just like for people I can't see it,
like little like assignment notebook pages six four.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
Yeah, and the paper's waterproof. Yeah, waterproof, all weatherproof, all right.
Day one started at six forty five am. Drove to
Mountain wait until eight forty five, then got an army
van for an hour drive. Was a really fun ride,
sat by Brian and we were all having a great time.
The boom, explosions and fire. Out of nowhere, thean door
opened and we heard Billy Staff Billy, well, mind you

(01:06:51):
have something crossed out before Billy, because it's aid Daddy
Billy Staff. Billy say, head down, stay down, don't move.
Then he pulled us out one by one out of
the van. I was last to get pulled out, first
by the hood, but then by the hair, which I
liked it. Then we got bags over our heads, had
to walk like a Konga line, then drive more while
being blindfolded. First name Billy called me was Creatia. He

(01:07:13):
also said he didn't like me, which it's now my
mission to make him like me. We went to the
first task, ladder bridge walk. I went third. I failed,
which made me mad at myself. Everyone was nice, but
cue he called me a bag of ass, but also
he was right. I didn't like failing. I don't want
to again. After I went, I got in trouble for
helping someone fill their water. Then we got in a

(01:07:35):
new car and drove the Base, which was like an
hour away. There was four of us in the car.
They had four random sandwiches. I got a smoke salmon bagel.
I was so hungry, it was amazing. Then I got
to Base, took a tour ate dinner chicken, white juice,
rice peas, sweet potatoes, and carrots. I loved it. Favorite meal.
Now we're just waiting for the rest of the night.
I've wanted to call Mom, Kez, Rachel and Abby. It's

(01:07:56):
been a fun day and I just want to tell
everyone about it and hear it. Third days, I felt
my phone buzz in my head so much. Phantom phone
syndrome is real. Really, I wondered how it was to
just shut your phone off and crazy. Yeah, it's eight fifteen,
I'm gonna get some sleep quick. Uh nine oh seven,
awake and getting ready. So I slept for like an hour,

(01:08:20):
little under an hour, and then they were called us
ten forty three. We were done for the night. That's
a long day. Yeah, I'm being very hard on myself. Currently,
we had a test of character workout with a rock
oh my god. The rock workout was on day one. Well,
you had a little rock. We had a test of
character workout with a rock and we had to speed
get a rock. One of the boys handed me one,

(01:08:41):
and then when we all got back, I had one
of the smallest. We had a duck walk, lunchwalk, burpie
and something else. We slammed the rock while Burt being
and I broke mine. That's how small my rock was.
I broke it while throwing it. My stamina is by
far the best, but I know I could have made
that harder on myself. Then I have whoa. It's seven
fifty five pm and I just walked into a massive
between Brian and Angela. I was getting my mic changed,

(01:09:02):
but fuck, it's hated. I also have when I failed,
Daddy Foxy said I thought you had it and then
I blinked and you failed, So I go next time,
don't blink. Thought it was funny, but he didn't. My
budgie held me up like a fairy. Then I had
a list of who I liked versus who I didn't like,
but then I ended up crossing that out because I
was like, if my journal gets red again, I don't

(01:09:24):
want that being out there sixth grade. It's literally so
sixth grade. But the thing is is, I don't have
anybody tell me just who you liked right on this
light it was Brian, Savannah, Kelly, and Dez. They were
my first, but then I aboord a mission. I think
right away on day one probably would have also been Tyler.
I didn't know Nick well yet. Tyler. I got a

(01:09:45):
good vibe from day one. Yeah, those were honestly like people.
Day one dead stories. Oh I got good dead stories.
I got good dead stories. Oh you're talking to the
Robbert stories. But I got one. So on day one
they came in and they told us that we were
gonna need to memorize information. Oh yeah, so I have

(01:10:06):
that written down. Muppet clap, grit and NBC Muppet is
most useless pathetic person ever trained, Clap is clear loud
as an order, pauses, NBC nuclear biological chemical, and grit
group range indication type of fire. We didn't know what
we were gonna need them for, but we found out
on day two very early. Anyways, Yeah, so Robert Horry,
when we got back into the accommodations, I didn't really

(01:10:27):
understand what a big deal Robert Horry was and he
was telling some incredible stories about Kobe and playing with
Kobe and like, I mean, he is a massive basketball player,
like massive in the NBA, and so everyone really loved
his stories and he would tell these stories and I literally,
this is awful. But I was like fuck that, I'm
going to sleep because everyone was so engaged in his

(01:10:49):
stories that I was like, no one's going to come
in and interrupt this. I'm talking producers too have to
be in a control room being like, oh I want
to hear this story. No one's going to interrupt this.
And so I was sleeping tell his stories. I was
like I not, No, there was something else while I
was reading this, and I was like, oh, I want
to talk about that. Oh the rock workout. Yeah yeah yeah.
So I basically they called us out to the Paride

(01:11:11):
Square and they were like, go get a rock right where.
So they spread over to the rock pile and one
of the boys just hands me a rock out of
the pile and I just take it a run and
I literally got back into the Prade Square and I
looked at it and I was like God, damn it
because I just knew I knew what that challenge was
gonna be about. It was gonna be like, did you
pick a big rock word little rock? And I had
this one of the small lists. If they handed it,

(01:11:32):
they handed it to me. But like I should have
taken initiative. And that's what I learned, Like it's a
team game, but it's also a solo game. Yeah, And
so I had my little itty bitty freaking rock and
did all these workouts and I mean it was hard. Yeah,
I mean I had like a ten pound boulder and
like Jack Osborne's over there, and they called him the
Pillsbury Dope Boy because we had a dunk walkway it,
which is like when you're squatted down walking and he

(01:11:55):
was rolling his because he could have do They're like
and the fucking Pillsbury Dope Boys did go and I mean,
like I cackled, like they were so funny the DS.
I want to know, is there like a book where
the DS has learned all they're like funny phrases from
so funny they're phrases I can't even They just roast everyone.
They roast and they are quick. One day, DS Billy

(01:12:15):
looked at me and it was like, stop nodding naughty,
and I was like, that's brilliant. What do you call
Tara dippy Dora? Her dippy Dora? It's like, that doesn't
even make any sense, but it's hysterriby. Day two, what
they said to Tara was my favorite thing ever. And
so you'll hear about that on my part two. God,
this is gonna be an eight part series. I wanted
to hear about Tara's cigarettes too, So when we were

(01:12:37):
at the Trenasium, all of a sudden, well there's two
stories you're actually So when we're at the Trenasium, Tom
and Tyler realized that they had mixed up kids. So like,
let's say we have to go to the bathroom because
there was an indoor bathroom h here, And they were like,
let's say we have to go to the bathroom, let's
go change. Yeah, Well they go into the bathroom. They
were like, can we go to the bathroom. We'll go
in a buddy pair. So they go in and they're

(01:12:57):
in there. They were in there for like ten minutes,
Like mind you, yes, they did all have to take
everything all put anything back on. Well, DS Rudy was like,
where the fuck did they go? DS Rudy goes and
finds them in a bathroom changing together and is like,
you are not They're ship seriously and all of us

(01:13:18):
are like, what's going on out there? Right? Like no
one knows what's going on out there, and we just
see them come out, and like Rudy was like they
were changing, what are they going in there? And like
they were just they were literally swapping clothes. But he
thought they were like I never thought they were like
they were making they were like two straight there literally

(01:13:39):
swapping clothes. But yeah, they were, they thought. I don't
think he thought necessarily they were like making out like
I feel like Rudy's had probably more like comparing dick
sides or something like. I don't know, but yeah, they
got so mad at them. And then Tara tried to
sneak in cigarettes. So she and her clothes that she
arrived and had him in every pocket, every stock, every bra.

(01:14:01):
Well then you had to change, and so when we changed,
she swapped all her cigarettes and put them in the
pants and then there's in these socks down in these
shoes now, so she stocked up a cigarettes, but they
saw her. So as we're leaving, DS Box was like
give me your pack, and so she pulls out one
and he's like, is that it. She's like that's it.
He's like, open your pocket, and she pulls out another pack.
Then she pulls out another pack. She had like eight

(01:14:22):
packs on her. They ended up letting her keep one,
they did, Yeah, they did let her keep one. But yeah,
she had like so many packs of cigarettes on her.
It was hysterical. Gotta love good old terror. Oh my god,

(01:14:42):
any other day one I want to hear about the
fight that you walked into between Black China and Yeah,
so even when it aired, it's still confusing, like what
happened that I Brian. Brian has a personality that if
you don't understand, you don't understand for sure. And Black
China is a very strong personality that also if you
don't understand, you don't understand, and you she is a

(01:15:05):
bear that you cannot poke. Brian is a little boy
with a stick, and that is a recipe for disaster.
So literally I was I think he's in the restroom
or something, and I came back in and they were
just like fighting with each other and like no one
knew what was happening. That was like, what's going on?
And everyone was like I don't know. So I look

(01:15:25):
at Brian and I was like, hey, bro, like ye
you okay. He's like yeah, I'm fun. It doesn't matter.
But I was like what, Like literally everyone was like,
what happened? Asked her what happened? She didn't know what happened.
Asked him what happened. He didn't know what happened. I
was like, Okay, this is just strange. But they were
like yelling at each other in the accommodations. It was wild.
I thought it was over like the temperature in the room. No,

(01:15:46):
he literally like I think he cracked a joke and
she was like, well I don't joke like that, and
like he was like, oh, like okay, and she was like,
don't get sassy with me, and I was like, I'm
not sassy with you. You'reself like something like that, like
just like petty, silly, stupid. Like the people that bonded
in the beginning. Actually was interesting because it's very different
from how it ended. Like I in the beginning definitely

(01:16:07):
bonded with Kelly and Savannah. Tyler and Dez bonded because
like the like football vibe, Nick and Tyler actually like
prior to Special Forces. Vocally hated each other, serious publicly
hated each other. Mm hmm, yeah I didn't know that. Yeah,
Like we're very open about it, Like I don't know,
just like Bachelor Nation didn't agree, Like I don't know,

(01:16:28):
very different people. I think Nick has said something about Tyler.
Tyler had said something about Nick. But just like they
don't mix, you know what I mean. Yeah, probably just
like me and Christy from Dance Bombs prior to the reunion,
you just don't mix. You just don't walk on the
same side of the street. And then like you do
something like this and you're like, okay, wait, you know
what I mean. Yeah, Now Nick and Tyler are literally
like freaking brothers. Yeah, it's it's cool to see. Actually,

(01:16:53):
everyone just kind of like bonded to somebody immediately, and
then those bonds definitely changed. I grew very close to
Nick and Tyler and body Aaron and Tyler grew really close.
I grew pretty close to Jack actually as well. It
just it was cool to see, like who you who
you eventually like grew very close to well, and then too,

(01:17:16):
when people leave and if you're close to them, that
was hard. That was hard. I knew if Nick left,
I was going to have a harder time. I think
during Special Forces I was closer to Nick, and I
knew if he left, I was going to have a
really hard time because he like he was like really
brotherly figured to me, like I don't know something about him.
While we were there, like just felt like if I

(01:17:36):
needed a hug, Nick, give me a hug. Like even
now to this day, Nick is still one of those people,
but like while we were there, he was number one
for me. I like the feet story that you tell
about Nick. You'll have to wait for you for that's
a van story. That one too. I like that one,
the van story when he yeah, yeah too so soon

(01:17:56):
the van story was I just saw it in this
last EPISOD so that I saw and I got really happy. Yeah,
you gotta wait till day seven because those stories are great.
Man Day one, I think that's probably it. We fell asleep.
No one really knew what to expect. We didn't know
when the lights were gonna go on. We didn't know
how long we were going to sleep for. We didn't

(01:18:17):
know or we're supposed to wear. I fell asleep fully dressed.
I was like, I'm ready I'm ready. Whenever they call,
I will be ready. Yeah, we were still looking a
mess day one. No one had their outfits together. I
knew day one when they showed us the axe job
with the firewood, that I wanted that I wanted that
to be my job. And I knew it was gonna
be hard for people to get me that job because

(01:18:38):
all the boys were like, that's a man's job, you
know what I mean? And so I knew I was
gonna have to convince the boys like let me do
it with them. But eventually you'll hear all my firewood stories.
And you've never sung an act before. I never saw
an axe before, never tried wood before. No, heck no,
now professional at it. I would be interested to see
if I could do it like still, like how good
I would be at it? Because I got really good.

(01:18:58):
I did it every day. I wonder even go here
to like chop wood anytime, you know, anytime now I
see like a like uh like a like wood for sale,
I always send a picture of it to my boys.
I'll send it to a group out of me Jack, Nick, Tyler, Bodie,
because they were who took me out to chop the
wood with them. They're the best. Oh, I got great stories.
I ran an axe into my leg. Day two, I

(01:19:19):
burned my hand. There's so many stories that word gasoline
on yourself, Ford gasoline on myself, day six, five or six, Yeah,
so many stories, so many beastings that nobody saw. I
remember what I said, Did you cry and you're like
every day? Every day? I did not cry day one. Okay,
in the episode, it airs that I cried day one.
That interview was day six, day one. I no offense,

(01:19:42):
did not miss my family, did not miss my friends,
like I wanted to call everybody to be like dude.
So today I walked across a wobbly ladder and fell
down the middle of it and dangled and then got
pulled back up, then got told I looked like a
back half, then tried to smoke salmon, and then we're
on base. I have to carry this thirty five pounds back.
Supposed to be like in between thirty and thirty five,
but I made mine thirty six, so that way, like,

(01:20:04):
there's no fucking it up. And wait to hear the
Bergen story too, when when when they wait them oh
uh huh, Honestly, I'll give a spoiler because I've never
told you this. So they come in to WAM. Now
a big lesson that we learned this was on day seven,
is that we needed to take some initiative. Yeah, and
that was a big lesson we learned. Maybe it was
day six actually, And so then they they did a

(01:20:29):
pre kidnapping that didn't get aired where they like came
and kidnapped us and they took our burgains from us.
And then we're in our accommodations and we asked the DS.
We were like, hey, when will we get our burgins back?
And they're like, we'll bring them. Do you don't worry
about it? And so I go out a base, right,
I go out of our accommodations to go into the
mess and I saw our burgens outside of the gate
and I go back into everybody and I was like, hey, everyone,

(01:20:50):
I know we're not supposed to leave base, but our
burgins are out there and they're being not watched. Yeah,
And I was like, I think we should go grab them.
And Aaron was like, I'll come get them with you,
and I was like, all right, let's do it. We
didn't know if we're supposed to. We had a lesson
on taking an initiative, and I told everyone. I was like, look,
I know we're not supposed to be, but they said,
take initiative. Right there, I can see them. Someone can
come with me, we can take initiative. And I think

(01:21:12):
what was going to happen is they were going to
take stand out of them to make someone's not weigh
the right them out. I think that's what was going
to happen. But I took the initiative and Aaron took
the initiative with me to go get them. So then
they come out to weigh them, They're like, get your buggins,
get on the bright squat, no heads up that they're
going to weigh them. Right, we had the stand in
them out for seven days. They weigh everybody. They put
me last in line to get wait and DS Billy

(01:21:34):
like looked at me and like goes to pick up
my bag and I'm sitting there with flying colors confidence
mine's a kilogram over. Yeah, because I was not about
I told all the boys and you'll hear about this
on day one and two. I'm sorry. On day two
and three, I told everybody. I was like, we are
going to get in trouble. We are gonna get punished,
but not for something stupid. I ain't getting punished for
you not having your armband on or you having a

(01:21:56):
missing button. If we get punished because someone's button is different,
no happening on my watch, my way, and so sand
in my bag. No, I would rather have an extra kilogram.
So he has Billy goes and he puts mine on
the scale and he looked out and he was like,
oh shit, like he like like he thought he thought
I was gonna be the one that was like slacking
off the lader bag and I had the heaviest bag
because I was like not not he like me now?

(01:22:20):
He was like, so are we friends? Yet? So many
good stories though, so many memories? Anything else on day one?
I don't think there's anything else. I feel like I
really went in. I feel like it really did too.
I feel like I really just would want to know
like more of like what you are thinking? So like,
were you like nervous? I was very curious. I was

(01:22:41):
really curious who the first to go home was. I
will say night one, I was like, how is Terra
still here? I really did not know how terror I
didn't think she was going to make a day one,
I really didn't, and then she did. She got through
the rock workout and I was like, damn, like we
did it. Pull it and I was like all right.
So then I was kind of like, I wonder who
the first place to go home was. And it was
kind of a toss up between what it be Terror

(01:23:02):
or Angela who was black China. Yeah, And I was like, well,
both of them are falling asleep here, like they're both chilling.
That was something I was thinking. I was very curious
about who was going to go home. I was curious
about what was going on at home, my home, Like
I was very curious as like what my family was doing.
I was very curious to if everyone had a good day,
if everyone was okay, Like what if something happened, like

(01:23:22):
if I'm missing something. Yeah, that was always thought and
I just kept telling myself something is ever wrong, you
will feel it. You will know, like if someone dies,
their angel spirit will come to you and be like, hey,
heads up, I died, But like don't worry, like finish
your time here, you know what I mean? Like I
kept just keep doing the challenges. I got delusional. I
really got delusional. Man. I think night one I didn't.

(01:23:42):
I didn't miss any one. Night one, I really didn't.
Having the time of my life. I was like, this
is stoped. I'm away, like, yeah, yeah, this was hard,
but like I did it, you know what I mean,
little did I know how hard it was going to
get and how bad I was going to miss everyone.
I mean like day one, two and three were a
joy ride or came, hardest shit I've ever done. Then

(01:24:03):
day five came. It was harder than day four. Day six,
it was harder than day five. Day seven, day harder
than eight was. I mean, eight was my limit, you
know what I mean, it's crazy. Yeah. My priority was
just making everyone laugh when we were in the combinations.
Make everyone giggle, make everyone smile, make everyone crack a joke,
make them laugh however I could, because I knew everyone's

(01:24:24):
spirits are going to be down. I knew no one
had their family. I just wanted to make people laugh.
I wanted people to like me. I did, and I
just was like, I ain't going to change myself for
people to like people like I want to give they
one a good time, you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah,
it's such a great experience. I can't believe you did it.
I can't believe all the way there and did all
those things. So many things, so many freaking things like

(01:24:46):
you literally walked across two mountains like a ladder, like
wobbly super wobbly, like crazy things Like if I was
there with you, I'd be like, say, honey, don't go
so close the edge, save right. And this is like, yeah, gosh,
literally yesterday I was standing on a chair and You're like,
be careful, dun dangerous, And I'm like, Mom, this is nothing.

(01:25:11):
All right. Well, I feel like we have been chatting
about day one for a hell of a long time. Yeah,
but we got a lot more to talk about. I
feel like day two and three can maybe be a
combined effort. But who knows, maybe it'll be an eight
part series of special Forces. Thank you all for listening
to Jojesia. Now, thank you mom for joining me and
tell this. You will be back. You will be sitting

(01:25:33):
in this chair a lot more sitting on this bed,
sitting on this bed. But there there are a lot
of good stories. There's a lot we'll get into the
death notes. I'll read you my death note. We will
read every day's journal. I will tell stories from every
day stuff you didn't see. There's tasks you didn't see.
There's beastings you didn't see, there's breakdowns you didn't see.
There's stories with everybody, car rides, dinners, meals at everything

(01:25:55):
that didn't get aired because you know, you're taking twenty minutes,
twenty four hours into forty two minutes. Yeah, twenty four
hours into forty two minutes. Like think about that. That's right.
That's like literally not even ten percent, Like it's it's
a fraction of it. And so it's it's a very
difficult show to edit, and they gotta do what they
gotta do, and they got to chop out what they
gotta chop out. But there's a lot of stories. Eight

(01:26:17):
days isn't that long, but it is an eternity when
you're in it. So get ready. Buckle up, mom, Thank
you for joining me, thank you for roving here, Thank
you for listening, and uh yeah, I love you. I'll
see you soon. Thank you so much for listening. Everybody,
be sure to follow us on Instagram and TikTok at
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I'll see you next week.

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