November 13, 2025 • 40 mins
What happens when two Dominican kids who grew up side-by-side actually start living the dreams they used to talk about?
In this episode, I sit down with my longtime friend Bryan 20+ years of brotherhood, laughter, and grind to talk about what it really means to grow up Dominican, chase your goals, and keep your identity through it all.
We talk about:
- How Dominican parents shaped our hustle mentality
- The unspoken challenges of growing in your craft while staying true to your roots
- Balancing culture, faith, and ambition
- What friendship looks like after decades of growth and change
- The dreams we’ve caught… and the ones we’re still chasing
It’s part nostalgia, part real talk and a reminder that you can come from humble beginnings and still create something bigger than you imagined.
🎙️ If you’ve ever wondered what happens when you stop talking about your dreams and start living them, this one’s for you.
Find bryan on instagram: @Bryan.dejesus
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So welcome to the podcast. This is a random PROMPTU
who's going to hang out? It was like, you know what,
let's do an episode. Everything is already set up. This
is made for this mountain with Josh Rosa, we're turning
pain into purpose. So I don't actually use these phones ever,
So go ahead to.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Say imagine they were just never connected.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
It's just that little waukey, you know. Brian introduced yourself.
Who are you? Well, who's Brian?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I am Brian Media. I'm a videographer, creative strategist, a
long time friend of Josh, probably your longest friend. I
would say how much time we got known each other.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Like twenty three years?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Twenty three years a long time.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
We could have graduated college at this point. You know,
the depths of all that to create a strategies, what
does that? What does that mean? What does it mean?
Like what do you like to do? What do you
do in that field?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
So when it comes to that, it's kind of like
everything you see in advertising campaigns is not just an idea,
is not just let's make something cool. There has to
be like a strategy behind it. So you have to
find an insight, like what is the universal truth to
make this connect with other people. And I feel like
that's what I kind of like enjoy is like the
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ideation and the finding the true meaning behind certain ads,
Like for example, there's an ad with on shoes, the
running shoes and Almo, and people are like, that's such
a random is a random, but the strategy behind it
is that Nike and Adidas like they're very hard, tough, grind,
(01:33):
never stop, and not everyone. You know, it's that demographic.
Sometimes you want soft running, like you want to enjoy
your run, and it's like who embodies soft and kindness
and it's like Elmo. Yeah, and then there you see
the through line of why that connects instead of being random,
and then it connects with people because that's a universal
(01:54):
truth that not everyone wants to run a thousand miles.
Some people just want to run one and enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah, that conversation with Hector recently. Actually, but I don't
know where this episode actually falls because this is like
a we decided to talk about purpose. So if we're
listening to this episode, maybe whay watch it. We're gonna
talk about purpose. That's the whole goal today's episode, even
struggling with purpose and trying to find that deity kind
of just conversation around that. So I don't know where
that episode falls, but we're talking about that specifically. Hector
(02:20):
actually works for Nike and that's something he does. They
run something called We Run Uptown, which is that and
that's kind of the premise that they have. That's people
just want to get into running. They want to do
these things and they want to be a part of it,
but they might not have it all figured out or
it might not be like, you know, super polished to
just kind of just jumping into these things. So looking
at purpose though, looking at that word purpose, what is
(02:40):
that to you? Like? What what do you define your
life purpose as? Which that's a really deep philosophical question,
but you know, what would life purpose look like? For Brian?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
It's interesting because like throughout my life, I feel like
purpose has had different iterations, Like sometimes at certain points
I identified it with what I do and it's probably
not that then sometimes like my relationships like and my
good son, good brother, good friend. So I feel like
purpose is like kind of ever evolving. I don't think
(03:13):
it's like one thing because if you find it, then
what do you do after that?
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
You know, so I think it just continues, but I'm
still trying to figure out. I feel like we're all
still trying to figure it out, even when it looks
like we haven't figured out.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah, there's never such thing as being perfectly perfect. Everyone's
going to have seasons of ups and downs. I think
one of the greatest things is being able to value
what your ups look like and being able to appreciate
the lessons of the downs. And a lot of people
lose sight of that because it's easy to get lost
in the fact that I'm not doing anything, like I
feel like I'm not doing anything that I feel like
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I'm not moving, I feel like things aren't changing. But
the only time I say this is very often there's
a difference between motion and movement. Like you can flare
your arms up a lot and throw them in the
air and be super exhausted because you moved a lot,
you didn't change, there was no motion. That's movement. So
I think the biggest goal should be that there should
always be movement. Whether you feel like you are completely
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full of what you're doing or you feel like you're
void from where you are, there has to be something
extra moving into So what does movement look like for
you in this season?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Like, what does that feel like in this season? I
define it as rest. Actually, I feel like for the
past two years I've been grinding super hard and burning out,
and I guess I needed to to kind of like
find out what are my boundaries and like my capabilities.
So in this season, right now, I'm resting. I'm taking
care of me, like my mental my health, addressing whatever
(04:36):
I need to address before I can, you know, really
hit the ground running again.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
So what would your dream career then be, Because I
know we talked about the things that you want to do,
the things that you are, but what would that like defining?
Like this is, uh, this is the most purposeful career
path for me.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
My end goal is being a creative director. I don't
know for what because I feel like if you would
me ten years ago, it would have been Nike. Yeah,
five years after that, it might have been when I
was working in the studio. It might have been for
a music production coming or something or label. So I
don't know, but I do know I want to be
a creative director, and like.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Are there any ways of you doing that on your own?
Like without like other people like being a creative director.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Of course, but I think you still need to build up,
you know, somehow, your your resume, your resume, and that
you're really capable of doing it because it requires a lot.
It's not just being creative, because I think at a
certain point, credit director, you're not You're not doing so
much creativity, you're kind of managing. Yeah, but I feel
like being in that field and being responsible for all
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the people and their growth and like putting out work
that really means something I feel like aligns with me.
So I would say creat director, but I wouldn't define
in what, but definitely.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
What behind Being a creative director makes you feel like
that's where you belong, Like what is the antithesis of
that job? What's that thing that is Like that's why
I want to do that.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I feel like just like it's tough. I feel like
I've inspired for it, and I've met other creative directors
and like how they manage to like create these campaigns
and these ads and like these products that really touch people.
And I feel like, as a kid, that's what I
would see. I would see these commercials, these ads with Nike,
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Adidas that really touched me and like help me I
guess feel inspired and I feel like I want to
create things that also create inspiration for the next generation.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, that's speaking to the growth that people have, and
we've seen that often. One of my best, like one
of my favorite campaigns I've ever seen was the Smile movie.
I think that was genius. They had people randomly smiling,
Yankee games and like the subway, So I think that
was the smartest thing. But before we dive in, deepproach
and the jump to these real quick commercial break. So yeah,
as we were just saying this is how this works.
(06:54):
By the way, we've never heard this, there's like a
second of a pause here, so it's a little bit
awkward for us, but not that awkward because we kind
of just get to the conversation.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
The millennial paus.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
The millennial pause fits perfectly into podcasting, and for those
people that don't know, like, commercials are the reason that
we're able to stay here and not be like, yo,
give me five dollars to listen to my podcast. It's
just the beauty of being in an industry like that,
And the beauty of this industry specifically is that we
give voices to Latino people like that's our goal of
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our people to be able to influence and grow a
community of that. So you're talking about purpose and talking
about things you want to do. How does your heritage,
your ethnicity, your dominicanness, How does Sony and A fit
into this role? I don't know, I still have the
name out there, but how do they fit into that
influence that has.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Over you major because they came My mom came at fifteen,
my dad later on, and they did jobs that didn't
allow them to pursue like what they truly wanted to do.
My dad is a painter and my mom is she
takes care of kids, staycare. And I feel like through
(08:01):
me they live like yeah, like they see me chase
a dream and they support it as opposed to like
most other I feel like it's parents. Parents are it's
like just do something or like just get a job
a doctor factory, Yeah, something that they could brag about
kind of sometimes Yeah, And it's kind of been the opposite.
I think my persistence has shown them that it's not
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just a choice that I just want to do something cool.
It's kind of like I really, I really want to
bust masks for this.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, and a lot of them I mean a lot
of our parents in general, its patics in general. They
they're not dreamers, like to put it nicely, and their
mindsets has always been, oh, I just just get a check,
check off the box, get a check, pay your bills.
That's it. But there's nothing that's been driving them. And
this is what kind it's a purpose that a lot
(08:51):
of people fall into that same rut. Right we are.
We're doomed to repeat the things that we don't address.
So when our parents were doing things and they weren't
growing through things, and they weren't leng themselves, they weren't
be pushed, or maybe they just didn't have the luxury
that we have, because let's be real, growing up in
this country, we have a luxury that most other people don't.
They don't see the ability to dream. Ye, And that's
the thing I think makes a huge difference. So, well,
(09:14):
how do you feed into that dream that they had, Like,
how does that tie in for you?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I feel like I just try to honor, try to
honor the sacrifice, Like first generation, if I'm allowed to dream,
then I should dream. I shouldn't let that sacrifice go
go on unnoticed. It should definitely be something that I
need to like take advantage of. And like, if we're
already here and they've already made these sacrifices, why not
(09:40):
just go for it?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, what would you tell high school Brian oh Man
to talk to him and say, hey, look, this is
where we are now, this is where we want to be.
Would you or what would you tell them?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
It's interesting because I do think about that often, and
I feel like I'm harder on myself now and I
feel like high school Brian be like, yo, that that's dope.
Like what you're doing is like you're really doing it.
I didn't even know that was a real thing that
you could do. He would definitely be proud. But I'll
let him know, like just just like trust your gut,
like don't listen to anybody.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Like don't date that other girl, or don't go to
that party.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Don't drink that spray bottle. It's not spray. He'll be
tight later on. Yeah. But even when I look back
at our high school years, I don't regret much. I
feel like we lived such a We didn't go to jail.
We didn't go to jail. We were like honestly there
for each other. We support each other and whatever we
were doing, we always made sure that we were like safe.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Like yeah, we also also have a very tight knit
like we didn't have other friends, but it wasn't like
the same and we have one friend who I think
he's in jail again, and definitely a very different, different
world in that perspective, but it could have been very
easy to go that route. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yeah, And it's interesting because like even getting older, like
let's say, in the past like ten years, like the
type of friends I've had like really aligned with like
what I wanted to do. Yeah, and I feel like
that twenty twenty pandemic time was like a magical time
for us, like.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Everyone was hanging out. Yeah, everyone be friends, but of
being friends.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Like we were all being super creative, like we were
always creating something. So I feel like I give up
like a lot of props at that time, like that.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
World stopping the pandemic d Yeah, you just show what everything,
But you know what, at the very least, our creativity
was born. I mean, even me, that's where I really
I started making content, Like when I was still in
Younkers before we get together, That's when that's when I
started making concerts. So youngers. Well that's why I was
teaching in the Bronx and then that transition period, did
I move out in the pandemic? Yeah, wow, that's wild. Yeah,
(11:47):
we decided to move to the apartment building. But yeah,
how did that? I'm trying to picture because I remember
like limiting younkers and making contact with the T three. I.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, literally and this telefunction that I still have over there,
which literally proves you don't need amazing this, You don't
need just to start. Just start.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Yeah, that's something I said another podcast that I was on.
I was like, it could let it be ugly, but
make it perfect as you go through it. So it
should just do something. People's hardest thing is starting. They
don't start.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, it's funny because like now that you say that,
I've been kind of feeling stuck, right and I've been
reading a lot of things and they say the curate
of being stuck is just doing something, Like, just do
something is what kind of like gets you out of it,
snowball effect.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Start a little bit and everything else changes. So being
stuck tell us a little more of that, Like what do
you think you're stuck in your creativity?
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Or so I think after because I had finished school
last year. I told myself, like, you know what, I'm
gonna go back and I'm gonna finish finished. I got
into this program for designing art direction five months of
like accelerated like education in that field and advertisement. I
got into uh an internship with this creative agency for
(13:04):
like four months, and then like it stopped, you know,
like my body my mind was like out of it,
and though I was trying to honor my body, I
still felt stuck, like I didn't know what my next
step was, and I kind of just realized, like there
doesn't need to be a next step right now, Like
maybe it is just taking care of my health because
(13:27):
I was dealing with some health issues. And then it's
also my mind, like how can I go into something
at forty percent of my capacity? So I think I
just needed to tell myself that I'm not stuck, that
I'm just resting. Like define it differently, yeah, because that's
that's the word definition, how you define something.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Because there's a difference between being stuck and feeling like
you're in a rut and then seeing that you just
need forcively forced to rest. So you have to be
present that you have to be real to and I
think a lot of people again, that's a struggle that
we have that we don't. We don't give ourselves season
of intentional rest. It's just like.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Hustle grind. Mentality doesn't let you think about it says
if you're stopped, you're not doing anything.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Yeah, not to lie, it's a flat out lie.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, it really is. It's it's I feel like it
benefits some people, like for you to continue to hustle.
I'm pretty sure whoever's paying you would rather have you
grind than to rest. But in order for you to Yeah,
but I do think it's the best.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
There are seasons where you do have to press in,
Like there's moments you have to like, Okay, well this
gotta get done. You know, we got yeah through. But
then you have to be intentional about that time. It's
your polity exactly. We have also to be like conscious
of like how by the way, I don't know if
you guys hear that, but I'm trying to fix it.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
But how we use our time too, Like we do
things that don't give us really rest, and then when
it we need the rest, we've already wasted that time
and whatever. So it's like being intentional of your time
as well.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah, yeah, making it make it purposeful and fruitful. Like today,
like there's my only day where I'm really because I'm
not not watching Luke, So it's the only day that
I'm like full, I'm gonna be here all day yay,
like Sunday stuff like that when I can squeeze in.
But it's intentional time here, Like there's like a thousand
things I have to get done, so I'm trying to
be a intentional about that. I think that's a big,
(15:14):
big takeaway for people though, intentionality and putting priorities on
the table, because that's that saying don't put your eggs
in too many baskets, right, You're trying to do too
many things, and that's how you you make sure that
you do a lot of things wrong, Like you don't
do one thing, well, what in this season? What's intentional
for you? Like, what are you doing intentionally.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Right now? It's like, I I don't know if I
told you into an accident a couple years ago from
my back, yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I remember if you told you, but it was like
random and I'm like, what do you mean? You got
to connect? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Completely random, and I never addressed it and like, were
you like on a bike or something, Yeah, I was
a and then someone turned on a red light and
just rocked me and I never I guess being young,
you don't your body is just like.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
I'm Dominican with Dominican mom that told me if you
get hit by a car, you stay down.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah, oh no. My mom was like, we can't afford ambulances,
but ensuran exactly. And then I don't know, it just
it kind of hit me a little bit harder this year,
I guess with the mount of stress I was dealing with,
like my body was reacting to it pretty bad. So
definitely got that checked out PT. I got a new
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therapist too, for like talking about my blocks and like
why I'm not being able to do certain things because
I'm very aware of like what I'm doing, what I'm
not doing, and I understand like that it I could
not be doing this, but there's probably something behind it
as to why I'm not being able to get through
this threshold. So it's just more being intentional with like
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what's wrong or like I guess, having awareness of like
what's going on with me and how to address it.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Which is huge. I mean a lot of people don't
try to make those changes, and especially in our culture,
get that tied into like ef I mean, our relatives
usually like mental health has never been a thing, Like
they don't really care about that. It's like put some
dire on it and get it together, but you can't.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, and then like they become full adults that just
do yeah, broken adults goods exactly cycle. There's awesothing you're
addressing that because that's something we don't we don't really
look at. I do think in this in this generation,
we are very like pro mental health, like we are progress.
I mean, this podcast is a mental health podcast. It's
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emphasis of it to people that all seven of you
that listen, I appreciate you, but the realities that these
people are looking for something that helps soothe it. Like
I say this, a lot of this podcast doesn't mean
that I'm like a Ford expert or the leading neurologists
in the world that knows everything about synaptic pathways and
how our brains work. I know a lot, but maybe
not that sense. But it's not that you It's not
(17:53):
that there's something new that's going to be discovered. It's
just something that you already know that you haven't addressed
exactly it rolls yourself, like be honest with yourself and
really address it.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yeah, and you need someone else to help you address it.
Even though you know exactly what it is. They can say,
you could write down the words, give it to them
and they'll just say it back to You're like, yeah,
that's what it is. Yeah, you just need to hear
it from the exterior.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yeah, sometimes you do. And I feel like when we're
in this hustle grind mentality too, like we kind of
push push away people, not probably not intentional, probably because
you're so focused, but like going back to center and sleeking,
like what grounds you. Sometimes it's your friends, Like sometimes
it's that text much like hey, come through the studio
the seventeen times, Yeah, and you finally come and you're
(18:36):
just like, wow, that's exactly what I needed. And it's
kind of like those moments and those things that you
kind of need to like hold sight something.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Really dive into those because we all need it. We
need we need places where we don't have to be
on And I say that often like I'm like I
don't I don't want to feel because my roles and
my jobs and things I have to do. I do
have to be on I do have to be a
person that, for better lackwords, I have to have like
pr train and I have to be able to speak correctly,
and I have to not post pictures that look crazy,
(19:04):
which I don't. It's not it's not. No, it's not
what I am.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
But no, yeah, you're not the dude walking down the
street that could just post whatever and talk about whatever
freely and there's no consequences.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah. But then in that same briss, what I'm alluding
to is that we all need places where we can
authentically be ourselves. Like I say, I equated to having
people who are living room people, because in your in
your living room, you have no shoes on, you're comfortable,
your eliest version of you, and you're good, you're at
peace because you're at home. You need to have that
that that balance. And not everyone has people that they
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could be like that with, right, That's not always a case.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
And I feel so bad.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Yeah, because you need you need community. That's a natural
thing that all humans need.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
You need community like something that just like gets you
like you don't there's no like you don't have to
give the concept. The context is already there. Yeah, you
know what I'm saying, Like, I can send you a
meme and you'll know what I'm talking about. I don't
have to explain to you because we've had that built in.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
It's already. Uh what's that? What's that? It's uh ingrained
or no, it's like it's a joke. When it's an
inside joke, it's like an joke or something of that
that norm. But we'll talk a little bit more about
this after this real quick commercial break. But yeah, the
reality that is an inside joke, right, there's the things
that we can talk about and just be real with ourselves.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
And just like let down that guard.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Yeah yeah, and not need to be like, oh, this
person's gonna judge me or treat me differently. Dude, you've
seen the worst of the worst. That's it. There isn't
the worst, not I mean having to kill the puppy
or anything like that, but you know it could be
as bad as bad. And that's when you have to
feel comfortable. You have to have people have that good Well,
you need your community. Yeah, how what what does community
look like for you? Lately?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Lately it's been like now I'm like getting out of
like this like funk time of grinding and stuff. And
I'm trying to just reconnect with a lot of people,
which is like being intentional when like I'm invited somewhere,
Like no one really has to invite you anywhere, you know,
just like being aware of like this person wants to
see you, like honor it a little bit more like
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you know, take care of yourself, but also be like
aware of like people reaching out, like show up, and
also like being uh just there for people, Like sometimes
it's not convenient for you, but it's not about your convenience,
it's about actually showing up.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Yeah, I feel like I have a word that I'm
gonna say just to make like a clip so people
are gonna get this from the Instagram. There's not evenything crazy,
But I'm gonna say not to get too messy, because
that's what I want to watch. It's like, what's the
mess what's wrong with you? Why are you here because
of that? If you're here because you heard that one
clip and you listen to this whole pody, what's wrong
with you? Yeah? But not to get too messy. But
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there are people that I've dealt with in my life.
They are like that that completely shut me out completely,
don't speak to me ever again, And then I don't
know where pop up and be like, oh, this isn't
this like everything is normal, that's not okay.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
It's not just there's people that I come across and
they're like, I haven't seen them.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
In a long time, right, speak about the same person.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
But no, I'm pretty sure it's not. They'll just be like, yo,
Josh is doing this thing. I'm like, why don't you
tell Josh that? Like but then again, it's also like
they know that they don't they haven't spoken to you
in a while, or like they've they've already shut you out.
So it's almost like their only way of like acknowledging
it that you are somebody else through someone else. You know,
(22:16):
it's already they already have the kind of like the
shame of like I already stopped talking to him.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yeah, but everyone's welcome to talk to me. I'm not
not like what I am. I'm nothing. I'm just the
person that.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
It's also I'm pretty sure they forget how you are
since or how you've changed like since then.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Yeah, I mean, and again, it's different because you don't
have relations with certain people, so you might feel that.
I get that. I'm not not indicating. I'm also very introrated,
so maybe, yeah, leave me alone. Very awkward anyways, Yeah,
just get a like.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
A little heart the podcast share the podcast share the podcast.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
No, but it's just like this reality where I get it.
I understand that because it's like you don't speak to people.
You don't speak to person, so you feel awkward about
engaging them. But I mean, at the same time, I
think you should. Oh, you're not gonna know the character
of a person off of like social media, like exactly,
that could be the world's biggest villain and no one whatever.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah, people, it's crazy because like what if if that
was true, there's still people out there that don't know
that side, that will share their their heartbreaks to you
because of who you are.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Yeah, okay, that's not me, but that's.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Definitely not him. I wouldn't be friends with the guy.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
That's a horrible thing to do. No, but there are
people like that. Like I've encountered people in this world.
I've encountered both sides. I haven't come to a lot
of the other side, though I haven't come to that
many bad people. But as like I've grown in my
networks and the things I've been invited to, the things
I've seen, And again, I'm no one special, but I
have been fortunate to be in certain rooms that I'm
(23:45):
just like, how did I even get here? But I've
seen both sides. I've seen the side of people who
are in these places and they're like very almost vindictive.
They're just like, oh, I'm you need to worship the
ground and walk on and that doesn't work with me.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
You You've met so many people that I'm pretty sure
no one can really like shake you and be like
oh no I should.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Yeah, but like this is different because if you're a
good person, I'm gonna like you, like I'm gonna speak
to you and socialize. But if you if you're like
that kind of I'm telling you, I met those people
where they're just like, oh I'm this and that I'm
just like, shut up, no one cares.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
And it's also you've met, like I'll say again, you've
met pretty big people, and then that's probably the way
you are is probably what actually builds that relationship as
opposed to like just being another person in the room.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yeah, because I realized that I'm funny sometimes, So what
it hits, it hits like they're just like, h this
guy's hilarious and just keep me around. But like those
people really like it's that saying don't meet your heroes,
like they're not one of my heroes. People like that.
I've seen the like, yo, like you look like you're
this is and this but is evil. But I have
I'll be honest, I've seen maybe maybe this is unfortunate,
(24:53):
and maybe I've just been around like the right group
of people. I've seen a lot of people are very
very nice people in this industry, like like media industry
in general, that are just like just so cool. So
I think it makes it so much easier when you
really see the good in people and people are actually
good with you.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yeah, and I feel like you've had the opportunity to
like move the veil where like see it.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
For all my my friends and me like, OK, guys,
this is where we're at.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah, it's almost like you get to actually meet these
people and actually see like what is behind the current
and like it's not as bad problem.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
And and there's actually I talked about this before and
I and I I mentioned that as like as a
proverb in a power so uh powable. All these things
in the Bible that Jesus talks about. It talks about
this parable where he's like to just to make it
real short, that there's like this leader and this guy
that works for him, and he's people owe him money.
(25:45):
They owe the boss money. So this guy is like
doing the wrong things, he's messing up. But then he
finds out the boss is going to fire him. So
what he does is that he goes to these other people.
He says, Okay, you owe me this much, give me
a third of what you owe, give me a half.
I rite your promisory, know for that much. So what
he was doing was that he was in a position
that he was put on. So what he was doing,
he was putting those other people on because if his
(26:07):
job left now Grant Need did it for a different reason,
like I'm doing it because I just want people, Like
I tell you all the time, bro, come with me
to the stay because I would rather be able to
put people in places that they want to be, not
necessarily because you could do something for me later, but
just because I'm here now, let's open the door for everybody.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yeah, So he did that for himself that was the
wrong thing to do, but for preservation, just the thought
of it is important because it's like, if I can
do something for someone else, why would I not do
it when I open doors so that we could all
be inside the room.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Yeah something Not everyone thinks that way. Sometimes it's like
if I put you on your taking from me, yeah,
and but just like the wrong way to think, because
there's so much to have, like, and I feel like
that's like a block for people. I feel like they
think that this is only so much and that's.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Actually why people don't make anything though, That's why they
don't go anywhere. Because even even the stuff that made me,
like the thing that put me where i'm that was
because I was doing to give to people, like the
social media. Okay, granted, TikTok started paying me, so that
was like.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Oh cool, yeah you say that so like casually, but
like you busted your ass so but yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
My reference is like, yeah, I'm getting paid now, but
I wasn't getting paid before. Yeah, Like it was like,
oh people are receiving something, Oh cool, I'm gonna do
this because of that message that I heard. And so
it's like because of the good more good came out,
people end up being greeting. So this is just a
full circle back to that person where people who make
you like you have to worship and walk kiss the
(27:34):
ground they walk off. We have a couple more minutes here.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
I actually have a question for you. Go for it,
because I've been actually next to you through your whole journey. Yeah,
how does it like have you ever had moments where like,
all right, you've had like where you are now and
like where you started, and like how your intention I
guess opened up a path Like did you ever see
(27:57):
like where like you didn't know how it was possible
to get to a point, but you being persistent and
like just a good person, I guess like the past
just kind of opens up for you. You kind of realize,
like I didn't even know how to get to here,
but somehow, well.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Even even this, I mean, who gets paid to talk
on a microphone? Like very few people do that. And
then when I say very few, I mean the numbers
like two percent or something like that in the entire
country that are paid from a network at least to
do stuff like this. So this wasn't even a plan.
This was never part of the plan. The part of
the plan. Plan was always like the media stuff. As
the media stuff grew, I was like, Oh, I'm going
(28:31):
to work with companies and work with people and work
for organizations to help them grow their reach and stuff
like that. That was the plan. This was never the plan.
This was a byproduct of just somebody being good. Something
that was good saw me and said, hey, I like
what you're doing. Let's make it happen. And to be honest,
I've said this a lot, and I keep saying that
(28:52):
I'm going to keep saying it is that I'm living
this season, this at least this contract, like there isn't
the next one. Like I'm going to do everything I
possibly can to enjoy because I don't know. I don't
know if if I'm reaching the right people. I don't
know if I'm reaching the right numbers. I don't know
what the metrics. I mean, my metrics to me look good,
but I don't know if they look good to that yeah,
to the industry, to the to that level, to the company.
(29:12):
So I'm just like whatever, I'm going to push and
do and do and enjoy until I can't and if
it doesn't happen next year, it doesn't happen next year.
But this was never a part of the plan, which,
to be honest, gives me so much more optimism because
if this was never a part of the plan, I
wonder what else is in a part of the plan.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Yeah, it kind of like, uh, I forget where I
heard it where. It's like when you ask God for something,
is like leave the door open a little bit, because
if you're asking for just one hundred, he's only gonna
give you a hundred, but he was probably planning to
give you so much more. Yeah, And it's kind of
like you could ask, oh, I want to do this,
but like he has way more planned for you.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeah, And you just have to want to obviously do
the work because people people think that they're going to
receive without the work. You can't because you never put
the effort for it. But be open to the idea
of so much more. Like that's again, this was never
a part of bad this, Yeah, getting place doing these things,
see and not to I don't know. I mean, I
(30:08):
don't never talk finances, but not to talk finances. But
I've never seen so much money in my whole life,
Like I've never seen a check that magnitude, and it's
kind of scary to be honest, because it's like, Okay,
what if I adjust my life to that standard, but
I don't meet that standard later.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
It's exactly and I feel like people fall into that
oh yeah, where it's like more money, more problems, Yeah, biggie,
smallest out to the big where it's like you start
to like spend and do things on that level, but
it's not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Like I said, you know, yeah, so enjoying the season
of it's that that's always the biggest goal. This was
never part of the plan, but it's a byproduct of
the work, and I think that's why it's important. Am
I willing to put in work for it? Because like
you said, sorry, I busted my my ass doing this,
but doing creating content and being up and writing and
(30:59):
doing all these things and learning how to color grade
because that was never a videography right now. Yeah, I
think photography is my thing. I love photography, but learning
sound design and all these things and every day I
get better. But yeah, it was never the plan.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
No, Yeah, I just asked because like when twenty twenty
hit and we were living together and creating content, like
I didn't. I hadn't. I like I knew I liked videography,
but it wasn't like I knew I was supposed to
do more. And like I would see campaigns and I
was just like, yo, I don't know what that job is,
(31:33):
but like I would love to do that. And I
just kept saying that and like I guess keeping that
forward and just like putting in the work somehow, like
the doors were opening to that path and I didn't
even know that that was already in play for me.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Yeah, So I mean a lot of time, but I
mean this is my podcast. I do what I want.
I forgot we should have cut off ready, But if
you're still here, you're the best because we all a
little bit more probably gets better listen. So it use
those gifts. And there's kind of a challenge I'm going
to give you. I don't know how open to it,
but what if you were to start creating campaigns on
(32:06):
your own, like fifteen thirty second campaigns.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
So what I do is like now, like I'll take
like for social media, like make this like no, yeah,
like right now, like what I've been doing really is
like all right, like I'll take a challenge where It's
like if the X brand needed Z product or whatever,
and just kind of break it down of like what
the strategy is, what the billboards out of home stuff
(32:32):
looks like, how does it live on media?
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:35):
So like, for example, I'll do Nike.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Like pitch decks.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
So yeah, yeah, I'm just prict seeing pitch decks and
like seeing my process and how I would do things.
I have it on my on my website and everything,
and that's what I'm kind of doing. I'm doing like
these mock pitch decks.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
So what if like speck work. Basically this is like
and I haven't seen this, and I mean I feel
like the power again. I'm a byproduct of the power
of one consistency, two product, and three social media. All
these things tie into each other. The reason that I
have what I have is because of that. What if
you created a social media platform like Twitter or whatever
(33:11):
talk TikTok where in which you start off with like
the video by by product of it, Like let's say
I don't know, we're doing a go what is audio
technica whatever? A campaigned for these headphones, right, and you
start off with what like you creates use your videography
skills to create a video aspect to it and then
(33:31):
in that create the whole pitch for it. I say
that because one it's practice, of course, Two it teaches
people online, which is what they want. But three it
makes you visible to those companies. No.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Yeah, And I've I've talked to many people too in
the industry where it's like, oh, I got X job
and they looked at my portfolio and they actually liked
the spec work, not even the real work I did. Yeah,
because the spec work is like you unleashed, like with
full creativity. There's no guardrails like you unleas year of creativity.
And I have thought about that and like I just
(34:04):
like I have been gearing up to just feel okay
in the moment and then gearing up to do stuff
like that. So like on my spare time, I'm doing
the pitch decks and I haven't really got back to biography,
which is like another thing that I feel like.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
You got a place here. It's not big, but no, yeah,
free content.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
But it's funny how like the brain and the mind
plays with you. Because I haven't done it really in
a year because I've been focusing on this one thing
and now I'm like my confidence in it is different
as it was when I was doing it.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Every day editing component, which is.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Sometimes look at my old stuff, I'm like how did
I How did I do that? But it was just
like that, like I didn't see anything. I was just
focused on getting the product out, you know, like I
would see something and I would just do it. I
didn't think about failing.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
One thing that is you never know who's looking. So yeah.
One one cool thing that I've noticed, specially with the
following that I have, is I'll sometimes like randomly like
see a person that likes something or common, which I
don't often because there's a lot, but when I do
see it and I click it, and I'm like, dude,
I just saw this dude in the movie. Like there's
like like random people like they're already there, so they're
seeing there's eyeballs in those things. Yeah, one simple thing
(35:15):
can change your life.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
It's funny, like I always in my head think that
they have a different algorithm or something, but they literally
have the same timeline as us, Like they're watching the
same stuff. The same things that go viral pop up
on their stuff.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
So it's like that one video that I had the
j coeg one. But there's the other one that we
really viral that it was like I'm okay with like
people walking away that whole thing. You had like Glorrilla
on it, you got like her on it, well these
random people like it was a point that was like
I got tired of screenshot in people because I'm like,
(35:50):
but what happen must have happened is that somebody in
that circle posted it and they all kind of caught it.
But that's what happens. Go back to like, you don't
know because what about trying to rapping. At the end
of that, it might.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Get signed bars your podcast over rad career starting.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Might start it anyway, Little Josh a little smooth Jay smooth,
the good old oh you had bars, different bars, but
that subject. But no, bro, thank you for jumping on
this podcast episode. It's always nice to have an episode
with actual friend. I have one with Teve too, I
think anyone with James and oh yeah, I'm trying to
get Ronnie forever. But Ronnie's a Ronnie.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
So Ronnie is Ronnie.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
We'll see. Maybe he might come. He says he's coming
up for Luke's birthday. So I'm away what's today's date.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
I don't know because I want to do a podcast
same time next year twenty It actually changes, yeah, because
like right now I'm in the process, but like looking back,
I feel like I would love to rewatch it and
showed a different one.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Or you could just make everything happen next month and
we'll come back in the month. That's a hell of
a challenge, Listen, if you start creating the content. I'm
a firm believer. If you start, you set yourself up
to win.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Yeah, just do something, Just do it, do it. Like yeah,
there's I feel like I see people that like now,
I'm just like Wow, they're really stuck to it. It's
like happening for them. And it's just really just being consistent.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Everyone sees the mountaintop. No one sees the long hours
that you spent in the hours, but they're like, oh,
he got lucky. He just no, I didn't. I was
doing the work when you weren't lucky exactly.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
And I feel like that shows like like like say,
there's people that know who you are and know you're
popping off. It might have not consumed all the content,
but they can't deny the hard work. The consistency.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Yeah, I mean, and you'd be surprised. And again that
is my podcast if you're here to appreciate you anyway,
when you got an extra extra episode here. There are
a lot of people and I and I've been seeing
this myself, were there a lot of people who knew
you in different stages of your life and.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
They want to you don't deserve that. They want to
keep you there as that version that they know, or.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
They'll say stuff like, oh man, he's so sneaky and
secret the whole time is just not their business because
you're not involved in what I'm doing or how I'm moving.
Why are you so concerned about my pocket but not yours? Yeah,
it's one of those annoying things that we we tend
to see people who gave up on their dreams judge
you because you're living yours. Yeah, that's it's like go
(38:10):
plain traffic.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Yeah, it's it's like at first you probably see it
as like they're hating, but then it's also hard to
like put yourself in their shoes like that. They only
see the version that they know of you.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Yeah, or they knew or they saw they knew what they.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Knew of you and then like you've changed so much
and it's like you're the fake one. But it's not that.
It's like you stayed the same, but I've grown.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Yeah, yeah, they don't have to respond to that. And
or worse, they try to limit your your vision by
their beliefs. They try to say that you can't do
this because I don't believe I can. So if you're
making it happen, now, you're horrible. You're this, You're that. Bro.
I can't tell you the amount of times I've seen
people who live in glass houses throwing stones like you.
There's not a single perfect person in this world. But
if you're more concerned about my life than the things
(38:54):
you're doing wrong in yours, you got other Yeah, you
have a bigger problem, like will can do because there's
the people that talk nons is about me, But are
people that I know really bad things about And I'm like,
you know that so much more And it's like, yeah,
your yours closet is full of skeletons that we just
(39:14):
we're better people, we take higher roads. But this is
the reality that people can only try to tear you
down when they're below you. There's no one above me.
That's ever tearing you down people people up top that
that whole propab break. There's collaboration at the top. People
up top are trying to bring you up. People below
are trying to bring you down. Yeah, that's what the
focus has to be. We're trying to bring you down.
Stay over there.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
And it's interesting because like they're punching up.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Yeah, they have to.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
You know what I'm saying, You're not punching down.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
That's what distinguishes between a person that desires growth and
a person that desires to tear it down to destroy.
If you want to grow, you're not concerned about entertaining
the peanut gallery because the Peanut Gallery is free. Everyone
has access, Exactly. They're all gonna say stuff. But at
the end of the day, if you're doing what you
need to do, none of those people matter. Exactly.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
I totally agree, And it shows at the end of day.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
It shows so live on video, so is recorded forever.
You're gonna take that challenge. I'm gonna take that challenge.
Hold on, make sure the focus is on me, yo.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
And then we said that, we said the date already
live on.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
I'm gonna just crop those parts and put it all together.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
You're gonna make one viral clip
Speaker 1 (40:24):
And then by the end of the month or whatever
whatever time frame it takes
So welcome to the podcast. This is a random PROMPTU
who's going to hang out? It was like, you know what,
let's do an episode. Everything is already set up. This
is made for this mountain with Josh Rosa, we're turning
pain into purpose. So I don't actually use these phones ever,
So go ahead to.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Say imagine they were just never connected.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
It's just that little waukey, you know. Brian introduced yourself.
Who are you? Well, who's Brian?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I am Brian Media. I'm a videographer, creative strategist, a
long time friend of Josh, probably your longest friend. I
would say how much time we got known each other.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Like twenty three years?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Twenty three years a long time.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
We could have graduated college at this point. You know,
the depths of all that to create a strategies, what
does that? What does that mean? What does it mean?
Like what do you like to do? What do you
do in that field?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
So when it comes to that, it's kind of like
everything you see in advertising campaigns is not just an idea,
is not just let's make something cool. There has to
be like a strategy behind it. So you have to
find an insight, like what is the universal truth to
make this connect with other people. And I feel like
that's what I kind of like enjoy is like the
(01:12):
ideation and the finding the true meaning behind certain ads,
Like for example, there's an ad with on shoes, the
running shoes and Almo, and people are like, that's such
a random is a random, but the strategy behind it
is that Nike and Adidas like they're very hard, tough, grind,
(01:33):
never stop, and not everyone. You know, it's that demographic.
Sometimes you want soft running, like you want to enjoy
your run, and it's like who embodies soft and kindness
and it's like Elmo. Yeah, and then there you see
the through line of why that connects instead of being random,
and then it connects with people because that's a universal
(01:54):
truth that not everyone wants to run a thousand miles.
Some people just want to run one and enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah, that conversation with Hector recently. Actually, but I don't
know where this episode actually falls because this is like
a we decided to talk about purpose. So if we're
listening to this episode, maybe whay watch it. We're gonna
talk about purpose. That's the whole goal today's episode, even
struggling with purpose and trying to find that deity kind
of just conversation around that. So I don't know where
that episode falls, but we're talking about that specifically. Hector
(02:20):
actually works for Nike and that's something he does. They
run something called We Run Uptown, which is that and
that's kind of the premise that they have. That's people
just want to get into running. They want to do
these things and they want to be a part of it,
but they might not have it all figured out or
it might not be like, you know, super polished to
just kind of just jumping into these things. So looking
at purpose though, looking at that word purpose, what is
(02:40):
that to you? Like? What what do you define your
life purpose as? Which that's a really deep philosophical question,
but you know, what would life purpose look like? For Brian?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
It's interesting because like throughout my life, I feel like
purpose has had different iterations, Like sometimes at certain points
I identified it with what I do and it's probably
not that then sometimes like my relationships like and my
good son, good brother, good friend. So I feel like
purpose is like kind of ever evolving. I don't think
(03:13):
it's like one thing because if you find it, then
what do you do after that?
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
You know, so I think it just continues, but I'm
still trying to figure out. I feel like we're all
still trying to figure it out, even when it looks
like we haven't figured out.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah, there's never such thing as being perfectly perfect. Everyone's
going to have seasons of ups and downs. I think
one of the greatest things is being able to value
what your ups look like and being able to appreciate
the lessons of the downs. And a lot of people
lose sight of that because it's easy to get lost
in the fact that I'm not doing anything, like I
feel like I'm not doing anything that I feel like
(03:43):
I'm not moving, I feel like things aren't changing. But
the only time I say this is very often there's
a difference between motion and movement. Like you can flare
your arms up a lot and throw them in the
air and be super exhausted because you moved a lot,
you didn't change, there was no motion. That's movement. So
I think the biggest goal should be that there should
always be movement. Whether you feel like you are completely
(04:04):
full of what you're doing or you feel like you're
void from where you are, there has to be something
extra moving into So what does movement look like for
you in this season?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Like, what does that feel like in this season? I
define it as rest. Actually, I feel like for the
past two years I've been grinding super hard and burning out,
and I guess I needed to to kind of like
find out what are my boundaries and like my capabilities.
So in this season, right now, I'm resting. I'm taking
care of me, like my mental my health, addressing whatever
(04:36):
I need to address before I can, you know, really
hit the ground running again.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
So what would your dream career then be, Because I
know we talked about the things that you want to do,
the things that you are, but what would that like defining?
Like this is, uh, this is the most purposeful career
path for me.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
My end goal is being a creative director. I don't
know for what because I feel like if you would
me ten years ago, it would have been Nike. Yeah,
five years after that, it might have been when I
was working in the studio. It might have been for
a music production coming or something or label. So I
don't know, but I do know I want to be
a creative director, and like.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Are there any ways of you doing that on your own?
Like without like other people like being a creative director.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Of course, but I think you still need to build up,
you know, somehow, your your resume, your resume, and that
you're really capable of doing it because it requires a lot.
It's not just being creative, because I think at a
certain point, credit director, you're not You're not doing so
much creativity, you're kind of managing. Yeah, but I feel
like being in that field and being responsible for all
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the people and their growth and like putting out work
that really means something I feel like aligns with me.
So I would say creat director, but I wouldn't define
in what, but definitely.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
What behind Being a creative director makes you feel like
that's where you belong, Like what is the antithesis of
that job? What's that thing that is Like that's why
I want to do that.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I feel like just like it's tough. I feel like
I've inspired for it, and I've met other creative directors
and like how they manage to like create these campaigns
and these ads and like these products that really touch people.
And I feel like, as a kid, that's what I
would see. I would see these commercials, these ads with Nike,
(06:24):
Adidas that really touched me and like help me I
guess feel inspired and I feel like I want to
create things that also create inspiration for the next generation.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, that's speaking to the growth that people have, and
we've seen that often. One of my best, like one
of my favorite campaigns I've ever seen was the Smile movie.
I think that was genius. They had people randomly smiling,
Yankee games and like the subway, So I think that
was the smartest thing. But before we dive in, deepproach
and the jump to these real quick commercial break. So yeah,
as we were just saying this is how this works.
(06:54):
By the way, we've never heard this, there's like a
second of a pause here, so it's a little bit
awkward for us, but not that awkward because we kind
of just get to the conversation.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
The millennial paus.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
The millennial pause fits perfectly into podcasting, and for those
people that don't know, like, commercials are the reason that
we're able to stay here and not be like, yo,
give me five dollars to listen to my podcast. It's
just the beauty of being in an industry like that,
And the beauty of this industry specifically is that we
give voices to Latino people like that's our goal of
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our people to be able to influence and grow a
community of that. So you're talking about purpose and talking
about things you want to do. How does your heritage,
your ethnicity, your dominicanness, How does Sony and A fit
into this role? I don't know, I still have the
name out there, but how do they fit into that
influence that has.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Over you major because they came My mom came at fifteen,
my dad later on, and they did jobs that didn't
allow them to pursue like what they truly wanted to do.
My dad is a painter and my mom is she
takes care of kids, staycare. And I feel like through
(08:01):
me they live like yeah, like they see me chase
a dream and they support it as opposed to like
most other I feel like it's parents. Parents are it's
like just do something or like just get a job
a doctor factory, Yeah, something that they could brag about
kind of sometimes Yeah, And it's kind of been the opposite.
I think my persistence has shown them that it's not
(08:25):
just a choice that I just want to do something cool.
It's kind of like I really, I really want to
bust masks for this.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, and a lot of them I mean a lot
of our parents in general, its patics in general. They
they're not dreamers, like to put it nicely, and their
mindsets has always been, oh, I just just get a check,
check off the box, get a check, pay your bills.
That's it. But there's nothing that's been driving them. And
this is what kind it's a purpose that a lot
(08:51):
of people fall into that same rut. Right we are.
We're doomed to repeat the things that we don't address.
So when our parents were doing things and they weren't
growing through things, and they weren't leng themselves, they weren't
be pushed, or maybe they just didn't have the luxury
that we have, because let's be real, growing up in
this country, we have a luxury that most other people don't.
They don't see the ability to dream. Ye, And that's
the thing I think makes a huge difference. So, well,
(09:14):
how do you feed into that dream that they had, Like,
how does that tie in for you?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I feel like I just try to honor, try to
honor the sacrifice, Like first generation, if I'm allowed to dream,
then I should dream. I shouldn't let that sacrifice go
go on unnoticed. It should definitely be something that I
need to like take advantage of. And like, if we're
already here and they've already made these sacrifices, why not
(09:40):
just go for it?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, what would you tell high school Brian oh Man
to talk to him and say, hey, look, this is
where we are now, this is where we want to be.
Would you or what would you tell them?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
It's interesting because I do think about that often, and
I feel like I'm harder on myself now and I
feel like high school Brian be like, yo, that that's dope.
Like what you're doing is like you're really doing it.
I didn't even know that was a real thing that
you could do. He would definitely be proud. But I'll
let him know, like just just like trust your gut,
like don't listen to anybody.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Like don't date that other girl, or don't go to
that party.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Don't drink that spray bottle. It's not spray. He'll be
tight later on. Yeah. But even when I look back
at our high school years, I don't regret much. I
feel like we lived such a We didn't go to jail.
We didn't go to jail. We were like honestly there
for each other. We support each other and whatever we
were doing, we always made sure that we were like safe.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Like yeah, we also also have a very tight knit
like we didn't have other friends, but it wasn't like
the same and we have one friend who I think
he's in jail again, and definitely a very different, different
world in that perspective, but it could have been very
easy to go that route. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yeah, And it's interesting because like even getting older, like
let's say, in the past like ten years, like the
type of friends I've had like really aligned with like
what I wanted to do. Yeah, and I feel like
that twenty twenty pandemic time was like a magical time
for us, like.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Everyone was hanging out. Yeah, everyone be friends, but of
being friends.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Like we were all being super creative, like we were
always creating something. So I feel like I give up
like a lot of props at that time, like that.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
World stopping the pandemic d Yeah, you just show what everything,
But you know what, at the very least, our creativity
was born. I mean, even me, that's where I really
I started making content, Like when I was still in
Younkers before we get together, That's when that's when I
started making concerts. So youngers. Well that's why I was
teaching in the Bronx and then that transition period, did
I move out in the pandemic? Yeah, wow, that's wild. Yeah,
(11:47):
we decided to move to the apartment building. But yeah,
how did that? I'm trying to picture because I remember
like limiting younkers and making contact with the T three. I.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, literally and this telefunction that I still have over there,
which literally proves you don't need amazing this, You don't
need just to start. Just start.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Yeah, that's something I said another podcast that I was on.
I was like, it could let it be ugly, but
make it perfect as you go through it. So it
should just do something. People's hardest thing is starting. They
don't start.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, it's funny because like now that you say that,
I've been kind of feeling stuck, right and I've been
reading a lot of things and they say the curate
of being stuck is just doing something, Like, just do
something is what kind of like gets you out of it,
snowball effect.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Start a little bit and everything else changes. So being
stuck tell us a little more of that, Like what do
you think you're stuck in your creativity?
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Or so I think after because I had finished school
last year. I told myself, like, you know what, I'm
gonna go back and I'm gonna finish finished. I got
into this program for designing art direction five months of
like accelerated like education in that field and advertisement. I
got into uh an internship with this creative agency for
(13:04):
like four months, and then like it stopped, you know,
like my body my mind was like out of it,
and though I was trying to honor my body, I
still felt stuck, like I didn't know what my next
step was, and I kind of just realized, like there
doesn't need to be a next step right now, Like
maybe it is just taking care of my health because
(13:27):
I was dealing with some health issues. And then it's
also my mind, like how can I go into something
at forty percent of my capacity? So I think I
just needed to tell myself that I'm not stuck, that
I'm just resting. Like define it differently, yeah, because that's
that's the word definition, how you define something.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Because there's a difference between being stuck and feeling like
you're in a rut and then seeing that you just
need forcively forced to rest. So you have to be
present that you have to be real to and I
think a lot of people again, that's a struggle that
we have that we don't. We don't give ourselves season
of intentional rest. It's just like.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Hustle grind. Mentality doesn't let you think about it says
if you're stopped, you're not doing anything.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Yeah, not to lie, it's a flat out lie.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, it really is. It's it's I feel like it
benefits some people, like for you to continue to hustle.
I'm pretty sure whoever's paying you would rather have you
grind than to rest. But in order for you to Yeah,
but I do think it's the best.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
There are seasons where you do have to press in,
Like there's moments you have to like, Okay, well this
gotta get done. You know, we got yeah through. But
then you have to be intentional about that time. It's
your polity exactly. We have also to be like conscious
of like how by the way, I don't know if
you guys hear that, but I'm trying to fix it.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
But how we use our time too, Like we do
things that don't give us really rest, and then when
it we need the rest, we've already wasted that time
and whatever. So it's like being intentional of your time
as well.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah, yeah, making it make it purposeful and fruitful. Like today,
like there's my only day where I'm really because I'm
not not watching Luke, So it's the only day that
I'm like full, I'm gonna be here all day yay,
like Sunday stuff like that when I can squeeze in.
But it's intentional time here, Like there's like a thousand
things I have to get done, so I'm trying to
be a intentional about that. I think that's a big,
(15:14):
big takeaway for people though, intentionality and putting priorities on
the table, because that's that saying don't put your eggs
in too many baskets, right, You're trying to do too
many things, and that's how you you make sure that
you do a lot of things wrong, Like you don't
do one thing, well, what in this season? What's intentional
for you? Like, what are you doing intentionally.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Right now? It's like, I I don't know if I
told you into an accident a couple years ago from
my back, yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I remember if you told you, but it was like
random and I'm like, what do you mean? You got
to connect? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Completely random, and I never addressed it and like, were
you like on a bike or something, Yeah, I was
a and then someone turned on a red light and
just rocked me and I never I guess being young,
you don't your body is just like.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
I'm Dominican with Dominican mom that told me if you
get hit by a car, you stay down.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah, oh no. My mom was like, we can't afford ambulances,
but ensuran exactly. And then I don't know, it just
it kind of hit me a little bit harder this year,
I guess with the mount of stress I was dealing with,
like my body was reacting to it pretty bad. So
definitely got that checked out PT. I got a new
(16:26):
therapist too, for like talking about my blocks and like
why I'm not being able to do certain things because
I'm very aware of like what I'm doing, what I'm
not doing, and I understand like that it I could
not be doing this, but there's probably something behind it
as to why I'm not being able to get through
this threshold. So it's just more being intentional with like
(16:48):
what's wrong or like I guess, having awareness of like
what's going on with me and how to address it.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Which is huge. I mean a lot of people don't
try to make those changes, and especially in our culture,
get that tied into like ef I mean, our relatives
usually like mental health has never been a thing, Like
they don't really care about that. It's like put some
dire on it and get it together, but you can't.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, and then like they become full adults that just
do yeah, broken adults goods exactly cycle. There's awesothing you're
addressing that because that's something we don't we don't really
look at. I do think in this in this generation,
we are very like pro mental health, like we are progress.
I mean, this podcast is a mental health podcast. It's
(17:29):
emphasis of it to people that all seven of you
that listen, I appreciate you, but the realities that these
people are looking for something that helps soothe it. Like
I say this, a lot of this podcast doesn't mean
that I'm like a Ford expert or the leading neurologists
in the world that knows everything about synaptic pathways and
how our brains work. I know a lot, but maybe
not that sense. But it's not that you It's not
(17:53):
that there's something new that's going to be discovered. It's
just something that you already know that you haven't addressed
exactly it rolls yourself, like be honest with yourself and
really address it.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yeah, and you need someone else to help you address it.
Even though you know exactly what it is. They can say,
you could write down the words, give it to them
and they'll just say it back to You're like, yeah,
that's what it is. Yeah, you just need to hear
it from the exterior.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yeah, sometimes you do. And I feel like when we're
in this hustle grind mentality too, like we kind of
push push away people, not probably not intentional, probably because
you're so focused, but like going back to center and sleeking,
like what grounds you. Sometimes it's your friends, Like sometimes
it's that text much like hey, come through the studio
the seventeen times, Yeah, and you finally come and you're
(18:36):
just like, wow, that's exactly what I needed. And it's
kind of like those moments and those things that you
kind of need to like hold sight something.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Really dive into those because we all need it. We
need we need places where we don't have to be
on And I say that often like I'm like I
don't I don't want to feel because my roles and
my jobs and things I have to do. I do
have to be on I do have to be a
person that, for better lackwords, I have to have like
pr train and I have to be able to speak correctly,
and I have to not post pictures that look crazy,
(19:04):
which I don't. It's not it's not. No, it's not
what I am.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
But no, yeah, you're not the dude walking down the
street that could just post whatever and talk about whatever
freely and there's no consequences.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah. But then in that same briss, what I'm alluding
to is that we all need places where we can
authentically be ourselves. Like I say, I equated to having
people who are living room people, because in your in
your living room, you have no shoes on, you're comfortable,
your eliest version of you, and you're good, you're at
peace because you're at home. You need to have that
that that balance. And not everyone has people that they
(19:35):
could be like that with, right, That's not always a case.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
And I feel so bad.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Yeah, because you need you need community. That's a natural
thing that all humans need.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
You need community like something that just like gets you
like you don't there's no like you don't have to
give the concept. The context is already there. Yeah, you
know what I'm saying, Like, I can send you a
meme and you'll know what I'm talking about. I don't
have to explain to you because we've had that built in.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
It's already. Uh what's that? What's that? It's uh ingrained
or no, it's like it's a joke. When it's an
inside joke, it's like an joke or something of that
that norm. But we'll talk a little bit more about
this after this real quick commercial break. But yeah, the
reality that is an inside joke, right, there's the things
that we can talk about and just be real with ourselves.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
And just like let down that guard.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Yeah yeah, and not need to be like, oh, this
person's gonna judge me or treat me differently. Dude, you've
seen the worst of the worst. That's it. There isn't
the worst, not I mean having to kill the puppy
or anything like that, but you know it could be
as bad as bad. And that's when you have to
feel comfortable. You have to have people have that good Well,
you need your community. Yeah, how what what does community
look like for you? Lately?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Lately it's been like now I'm like getting out of
like this like funk time of grinding and stuff. And
I'm trying to just reconnect with a lot of people,
which is like being intentional when like I'm invited somewhere,
Like no one really has to invite you anywhere, you know,
just like being aware of like this person wants to
see you, like honor it a little bit more like
(21:00):
you know, take care of yourself, but also be like
aware of like people reaching out, like show up, and
also like being uh just there for people, Like sometimes
it's not convenient for you, but it's not about your convenience,
it's about actually showing up.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Yeah, I feel like I have a word that I'm
gonna say just to make like a clip so people
are gonna get this from the Instagram. There's not evenything crazy,
But I'm gonna say not to get too messy, because
that's what I want to watch. It's like, what's the
mess what's wrong with you? Why are you here because
of that? If you're here because you heard that one
clip and you listen to this whole pody, what's wrong
with you? Yeah? But not to get too messy. But
(21:39):
there are people that I've dealt with in my life.
They are like that that completely shut me out completely,
don't speak to me ever again, And then I don't
know where pop up and be like, oh, this isn't
this like everything is normal, that's not okay.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
It's not just there's people that I come across and
they're like, I haven't seen them.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
In a long time, right, speak about the same person.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
But no, I'm pretty sure it's not. They'll just be like, yo,
Josh is doing this thing. I'm like, why don't you
tell Josh that? Like but then again, it's also like
they know that they don't they haven't spoken to you
in a while, or like they've they've already shut you out.
So it's almost like their only way of like acknowledging
it that you are somebody else through someone else. You know,
(22:16):
it's already they already have the kind of like the
shame of like I already stopped talking to him.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yeah, but everyone's welcome to talk to me. I'm not
not like what I am. I'm nothing. I'm just the
person that.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
It's also I'm pretty sure they forget how you are
since or how you've changed like since then.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Yeah, I mean, and again, it's different because you don't
have relations with certain people, so you might feel that.
I get that. I'm not not indicating. I'm also very introrated,
so maybe, yeah, leave me alone. Very awkward anyways, Yeah,
just get a like.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
A little heart the podcast share the podcast share the podcast.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
No, but it's just like this reality where I get it.
I understand that because it's like you don't speak to people.
You don't speak to person, so you feel awkward about
engaging them. But I mean, at the same time, I
think you should. Oh, you're not gonna know the character
of a person off of like social media, like exactly,
that could be the world's biggest villain and no one whatever.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah, people, it's crazy because like what if if that
was true, there's still people out there that don't know
that side, that will share their their heartbreaks to you
because of who you are.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Yeah, okay, that's not me, but that's.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Definitely not him. I wouldn't be friends with the guy.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
That's a horrible thing to do. No, but there are
people like that. Like I've encountered people in this world.
I've encountered both sides. I haven't come to a lot
of the other side, though I haven't come to that
many bad people. But as like I've grown in my
networks and the things I've been invited to, the things
I've seen, And again, I'm no one special, but I
have been fortunate to be in certain rooms that I'm
(23:45):
just like, how did I even get here? But I've
seen both sides. I've seen the side of people who
are in these places and they're like very almost vindictive.
They're just like, oh, I'm you need to worship the
ground and walk on and that doesn't work with me.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
You You've met so many people that I'm pretty sure
no one can really like shake you and be like
oh no I should.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Yeah, but like this is different because if you're a
good person, I'm gonna like you, like I'm gonna speak
to you and socialize. But if you if you're like
that kind of I'm telling you, I met those people
where they're just like, oh I'm this and that I'm
just like, shut up, no one cares.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
And it's also you've met, like I'll say again, you've
met pretty big people, and then that's probably the way
you are is probably what actually builds that relationship as
opposed to like just being another person in the room.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yeah, because I realized that I'm funny sometimes, So what
it hits, it hits like they're just like, h this
guy's hilarious and just keep me around. But like those
people really like it's that saying don't meet your heroes,
like they're not one of my heroes. People like that.
I've seen the like, yo, like you look like you're
this is and this but is evil. But I have
I'll be honest, I've seen maybe maybe this is unfortunate,
(24:53):
and maybe I've just been around like the right group
of people. I've seen a lot of people are very
very nice people in this industry, like like media industry
in general, that are just like just so cool. So
I think it makes it so much easier when you
really see the good in people and people are actually
good with you.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yeah, and I feel like you've had the opportunity to
like move the veil where like see it.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
For all my my friends and me like, OK, guys,
this is where we're at.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah, it's almost like you get to actually meet these
people and actually see like what is behind the current
and like it's not as bad problem.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
And and there's actually I talked about this before and
I and I I mentioned that as like as a
proverb in a power so uh powable. All these things
in the Bible that Jesus talks about. It talks about
this parable where he's like to just to make it
real short, that there's like this leader and this guy
that works for him, and he's people owe him money.
(25:45):
They owe the boss money. So this guy is like
doing the wrong things, he's messing up. But then he
finds out the boss is going to fire him. So
what he does is that he goes to these other people.
He says, Okay, you owe me this much, give me
a third of what you owe, give me a half.
I rite your promisory, know for that much. So what
he was doing was that he was in a position
that he was put on. So what he was doing,
he was putting those other people on because if his
(26:07):
job left now Grant Need did it for a different reason,
like I'm doing it because I just want people, Like
I tell you all the time, bro, come with me
to the stay because I would rather be able to
put people in places that they want to be, not
necessarily because you could do something for me later, but
just because I'm here now, let's open the door for everybody.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yeah, So he did that for himself that was the
wrong thing to do, but for preservation, just the thought
of it is important because it's like, if I can
do something for someone else, why would I not do
it when I open doors so that we could all
be inside the room.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Yeah something Not everyone thinks that way. Sometimes it's like
if I put you on your taking from me, yeah,
and but just like the wrong way to think, because
there's so much to have, like, and I feel like
that's like a block for people. I feel like they
think that this is only so much and that's.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Actually why people don't make anything though, That's why they
don't go anywhere. Because even even the stuff that made me,
like the thing that put me where i'm that was
because I was doing to give to people, like the
social media. Okay, granted, TikTok started paying me, so that
was like.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Oh cool, yeah you say that so like casually, but
like you busted your ass so but yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
My reference is like, yeah, I'm getting paid now, but
I wasn't getting paid before. Yeah, Like it was like,
oh people are receiving something, Oh cool, I'm gonna do
this because of that message that I heard. And so
it's like because of the good more good came out,
people end up being greeting. So this is just a
full circle back to that person where people who make
you like you have to worship and walk kiss the
(27:34):
ground they walk off. We have a couple more minutes here.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
I actually have a question for you. Go for it,
because I've been actually next to you through your whole journey. Yeah,
how does it like have you ever had moments where like,
all right, you've had like where you are now and
like where you started, and like how your intention I
guess opened up a path Like did you ever see
(27:57):
like where like you didn't know how it was possible
to get to a point, but you being persistent and
like just a good person, I guess like the past
just kind of opens up for you. You kind of realize,
like I didn't even know how to get to here,
but somehow, well.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Even even this, I mean, who gets paid to talk
on a microphone? Like very few people do that. And
then when I say very few, I mean the numbers
like two percent or something like that in the entire
country that are paid from a network at least to
do stuff like this. So this wasn't even a plan.
This was never part of the plan. The part of
the plan. Plan was always like the media stuff. As
the media stuff grew, I was like, Oh, I'm going
(28:31):
to work with companies and work with people and work
for organizations to help them grow their reach and stuff
like that. That was the plan. This was never the plan.
This was a byproduct of just somebody being good. Something
that was good saw me and said, hey, I like
what you're doing. Let's make it happen. And to be honest,
I've said this a lot, and I keep saying that
(28:52):
I'm going to keep saying it is that I'm living
this season, this at least this contract, like there isn't
the next one. Like I'm going to do everything I
possibly can to enjoy because I don't know. I don't
know if if I'm reaching the right people. I don't
know if I'm reaching the right numbers. I don't know
what the metrics. I mean, my metrics to me look good,
but I don't know if they look good to that yeah,
to the industry, to the to that level, to the company.
(29:12):
So I'm just like whatever, I'm going to push and
do and do and enjoy until I can't and if
it doesn't happen next year, it doesn't happen next year.
But this was never a part of the plan, which,
to be honest, gives me so much more optimism because
if this was never a part of the plan, I
wonder what else is in a part of the plan.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Yeah, it kind of like, uh, I forget where I
heard it where. It's like when you ask God for something,
is like leave the door open a little bit, because
if you're asking for just one hundred, he's only gonna
give you a hundred, but he was probably planning to
give you so much more. Yeah, And it's kind of
like you could ask, oh, I want to do this,
but like he has way more planned for you.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeah, And you just have to want to obviously do
the work because people people think that they're going to
receive without the work. You can't because you never put
the effort for it. But be open to the idea
of so much more. Like that's again, this was never
a part of bad this, Yeah, getting place doing these things,
see and not to I don't know. I mean, I
(30:08):
don't never talk finances, but not to talk finances. But
I've never seen so much money in my whole life,
Like I've never seen a check that magnitude, and it's
kind of scary to be honest, because it's like, Okay,
what if I adjust my life to that standard, but
I don't meet that standard later.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
It's exactly and I feel like people fall into that
oh yeah, where it's like more money, more problems, Yeah, biggie,
smallest out to the big where it's like you start
to like spend and do things on that level, but
it's not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Like I said, you know, yeah, so enjoying the season
of it's that that's always the biggest goal. This was
never part of the plan, but it's a byproduct of
the work, and I think that's why it's important. Am
I willing to put in work for it? Because like
you said, sorry, I busted my my ass doing this,
but doing creating content and being up and writing and
(30:59):
doing all these things and learning how to color grade
because that was never a videography right now. Yeah, I
think photography is my thing. I love photography, but learning
sound design and all these things and every day I
get better. But yeah, it was never the plan.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
No, Yeah, I just asked because like when twenty twenty
hit and we were living together and creating content, like
I didn't. I hadn't. I like I knew I liked videography,
but it wasn't like I knew I was supposed to
do more. And like I would see campaigns and I
was just like, yo, I don't know what that job is,
(31:33):
but like I would love to do that. And I
just kept saying that and like I guess keeping that
forward and just like putting in the work somehow, like
the doors were opening to that path and I didn't
even know that that was already in play for me.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Yeah, So I mean a lot of time, but I
mean this is my podcast. I do what I want.
I forgot we should have cut off ready, But if
you're still here, you're the best because we all a
little bit more probably gets better listen. So it use
those gifts. And there's kind of a challenge I'm going
to give you. I don't know how open to it,
but what if you were to start creating campaigns on
(32:06):
your own, like fifteen thirty second campaigns.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
So what I do is like now, like I'll take
like for social media, like make this like no, yeah,
like right now, like what I've been doing really is
like all right, like I'll take a challenge where It's
like if the X brand needed Z product or whatever,
and just kind of break it down of like what
the strategy is, what the billboards out of home stuff
(32:32):
looks like, how does it live on media?
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:35):
So like, for example, I'll do Nike.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Like pitch decks.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
So yeah, yeah, I'm just prict seeing pitch decks and
like seeing my process and how I would do things.
I have it on my on my website and everything,
and that's what I'm kind of doing. I'm doing like
these mock pitch decks.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
So what if like speck work. Basically this is like
and I haven't seen this, and I mean I feel
like the power again. I'm a byproduct of the power
of one consistency, two product, and three social media. All
these things tie into each other. The reason that I
have what I have is because of that. What if
you created a social media platform like Twitter or whatever
(33:11):
talk TikTok where in which you start off with like
the video by by product of it, Like let's say
I don't know, we're doing a go what is audio
technica whatever? A campaigned for these headphones, right, and you
start off with what like you creates use your videography
skills to create a video aspect to it and then
(33:31):
in that create the whole pitch for it. I say
that because one it's practice, of course, Two it teaches
people online, which is what they want. But three it
makes you visible to those companies. No.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Yeah, And I've I've talked to many people too in
the industry where it's like, oh, I got X job
and they looked at my portfolio and they actually liked
the spec work, not even the real work I did. Yeah,
because the spec work is like you unleashed, like with
full creativity. There's no guardrails like you unleas year of creativity.
And I have thought about that and like I just
(34:04):
like I have been gearing up to just feel okay
in the moment and then gearing up to do stuff
like that. So like on my spare time, I'm doing
the pitch decks and I haven't really got back to biography,
which is like another thing that I feel like.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
You got a place here. It's not big, but no, yeah,
free content.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
But it's funny how like the brain and the mind
plays with you. Because I haven't done it really in
a year because I've been focusing on this one thing
and now I'm like my confidence in it is different
as it was when I was doing it.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Every day editing component, which is.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Sometimes look at my old stuff, I'm like how did
I How did I do that? But it was just
like that, like I didn't see anything. I was just
focused on getting the product out, you know, like I
would see something and I would just do it. I
didn't think about failing.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
One thing that is you never know who's looking. So yeah.
One one cool thing that I've noticed, specially with the
following that I have, is I'll sometimes like randomly like
see a person that likes something or common, which I
don't often because there's a lot, but when I do
see it and I click it, and I'm like, dude,
I just saw this dude in the movie. Like there's
like like random people like they're already there, so they're
seeing there's eyeballs in those things. Yeah, one simple thing
(35:15):
can change your life.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
It's funny, like I always in my head think that
they have a different algorithm or something, but they literally
have the same timeline as us, Like they're watching the
same stuff. The same things that go viral pop up
on their stuff.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
So it's like that one video that I had the
j coeg one. But there's the other one that we
really viral that it was like I'm okay with like
people walking away that whole thing. You had like Glorrilla
on it, you got like her on it, well these
random people like it was a point that was like
I got tired of screenshot in people because I'm like,
(35:50):
but what happen must have happened is that somebody in
that circle posted it and they all kind of caught it.
But that's what happens. Go back to like, you don't
know because what about trying to rapping. At the end
of that, it might.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Get signed bars your podcast over rad career starting.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Might start it anyway, Little Josh a little smooth Jay smooth,
the good old oh you had bars, different bars, but
that subject. But no, bro, thank you for jumping on
this podcast episode. It's always nice to have an episode
with actual friend. I have one with Teve too, I
think anyone with James and oh yeah, I'm trying to
get Ronnie forever. But Ronnie's a Ronnie.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
So Ronnie is Ronnie.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
We'll see. Maybe he might come. He says he's coming
up for Luke's birthday. So I'm away what's today's date.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
I don't know because I want to do a podcast
same time next year twenty It actually changes, yeah, because
like right now I'm in the process, but like looking back,
I feel like I would love to rewatch it and
showed a different one.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Or you could just make everything happen next month and
we'll come back in the month. That's a hell of
a challenge, Listen, if you start creating the content. I'm
a firm believer. If you start, you set yourself up
to win.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Yeah, just do something, Just do it, do it. Like yeah,
there's I feel like I see people that like now,
I'm just like Wow, they're really stuck to it. It's
like happening for them. And it's just really just being consistent.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Everyone sees the mountaintop. No one sees the long hours
that you spent in the hours, but they're like, oh,
he got lucky. He just no, I didn't. I was
doing the work when you weren't lucky exactly.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
And I feel like that shows like like like say,
there's people that know who you are and know you're
popping off. It might have not consumed all the content,
but they can't deny the hard work. The consistency.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Yeah, I mean, and you'd be surprised. And again that
is my podcast if you're here to appreciate you anyway,
when you got an extra extra episode here. There are
a lot of people and I and I've been seeing
this myself, were there a lot of people who knew
you in different stages of your life and.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
They want to you don't deserve that. They want to
keep you there as that version that they know, or.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
They'll say stuff like, oh man, he's so sneaky and
secret the whole time is just not their business because
you're not involved in what I'm doing or how I'm moving.
Why are you so concerned about my pocket but not yours? Yeah,
it's one of those annoying things that we we tend
to see people who gave up on their dreams judge
you because you're living yours. Yeah, that's it's like go
(38:10):
plain traffic.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Yeah, it's it's like at first you probably see it
as like they're hating, but then it's also hard to
like put yourself in their shoes like that. They only
see the version that they know of you.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Yeah, or they knew or they saw they knew what they.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Knew of you and then like you've changed so much
and it's like you're the fake one. But it's not that.
It's like you stayed the same, but I've grown.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Yeah, yeah, they don't have to respond to that. And
or worse, they try to limit your your vision by
their beliefs. They try to say that you can't do
this because I don't believe I can. So if you're
making it happen, now, you're horrible. You're this, You're that. Bro.
I can't tell you the amount of times I've seen
people who live in glass houses throwing stones like you.
There's not a single perfect person in this world. But
if you're more concerned about my life than the things
(38:54):
you're doing wrong in yours, you got other Yeah, you
have a bigger problem, like will can do because there's
the people that talk nons is about me, But are
people that I know really bad things about And I'm like,
you know that so much more And it's like, yeah,
your yours closet is full of skeletons that we just
(39:14):
we're better people, we take higher roads. But this is
the reality that people can only try to tear you
down when they're below you. There's no one above me.
That's ever tearing you down people people up top that
that whole propab break. There's collaboration at the top. People
up top are trying to bring you up. People below
are trying to bring you down. Yeah, that's what the
focus has to be. We're trying to bring you down.
Stay over there.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
And it's interesting because like they're punching up.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Yeah, they have to.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
You know what I'm saying, You're not punching down.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
That's what distinguishes between a person that desires growth and
a person that desires to tear it down to destroy.
If you want to grow, you're not concerned about entertaining
the peanut gallery because the Peanut Gallery is free. Everyone
has access, Exactly. They're all gonna say stuff. But at
the end of the day, if you're doing what you
need to do, none of those people matter. Exactly.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
I totally agree, And it shows at the end of day.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
It shows so live on video, so is recorded forever.
You're gonna take that challenge. I'm gonna take that challenge.
Hold on, make sure the focus is on me, yo.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
And then we said that, we said the date already
live on.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
I'm gonna just crop those parts and put it all together.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
You're gonna make one viral clip
Speaker 1 (40:24):
And then by the end of the month or whatever
whatever time frame it takes
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