When You Struggle to Love Yourself.

If self-love feels fake, forced, or downright impossible you’re not broken. You were conditioned to believe that loving yourself is something you have to earn. Maybe someone told you you were “too much.” Maybe love was given only when you performed. Maybe comparison, trauma, or rejection taught you that being hard on yourself is “normal.”

But here’s the truth: self-hate isn’t humility and it’s definitely not motivation. It’s a cage. And it’s time to walk out.

In this episode, Joshua Rosa goes deep on the real reason self-love feels unnatural and how to finally rewrite that story. You’ll learn how to:

✅ Break the toxic patterns that keep you stuck in self-criticism

✅ Reframe childhood messages that shaped your self-image

✅ Start treating yourself like a friend, not an enemy

✅ Build healthy boundaries that protect your peace

✅ Practice small, meaningful acts of self-care that rebuild trust with yourself

✅ Understand how self-love transforms every relationship in your life

And most importantly: you’ll discover why your worth was never up for debate in the first place.

💭 “If you spoke to your friends the way you speak to yourself… you wouldn’t have any.”

This isn’t about arrogance. It’s about reclaiming your dignity. It’s about refusing to shrink just because someone else couldn’t see your value. It’s about choosing self-love not because it’s easy but because it’s necessary.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's insane to think that we've been conditioned to love
ourselves only on the amount of love that we receive.
So it's not that we have self love or care
for us, it's that we have envisioned how we love
based on how we've been loved. What I mean by
that is that we perceive the amount of love that
we're giving to ourselves how it should be given, or
where it should it be given, based on the lack thereof,

(00:22):
or how someone make this feel. And the reality is
that for a lot of us, we stay in that
cycle because it's easier to stay there than it is
to do anything else. And we struggle with this mountain
of just knowing that we deserve love despite what we do,
despite how we show up, despite what we have, despite
what we bring to the table, despite anything. We deserve

(00:43):
to be loved simply because we are. And that's what
we're struggling with here. So, if this has been this
has been you, if this is something that at some
point in life or or will encounter at some point,
if you've been in this boat, this is what this
episode is about. And I've been having people that we're
gonna be showcasing and sharing in other episodes, and it's

(01:06):
something that we seem to come to terms, to come around,
and it's just I feel like it's such a prevalent
thing in so many of us because we've struggled with that.
So we're starting to sea a little bit different. Thank
you for being on this episode, Thank you for listening,
and let's dive into this. This is made for this
Mountain with Josh Rosa or we're turning pain into purpose.
Who told you that you were unlovable? And why did

(01:27):
you believe them? Like? Was it a failed relationship or
romantic partner where you were in this invested in this
relationship and so into it and just caring about them
and giving them to them, and they ruined what love
is for you? Or they treated you poorly, or they
hurt you and physically, emotionally, mentally, spiritually. Who told you
that you were unlovable and you actually believed what they said?

(01:51):
Was it your past traumas, the things that you've experienced,
your family members, the people that put you in things
that have made you just feel like you're not worth
love or worth loving? Has been the wounds of comparison?
Have you been the person that told you that you're
not lovable because you don't do a provide or look
like have you been the one that has been your
biggest enemy. The reality is that for a lot of people,

(02:12):
we have been our worst enemy. We've allowed ourselves to
rob ourselves of the love we deserve because we think
that we are not worthy of that love. And I
get it. I'm not saying it's easy, but I do
think it's important to understand where this comes from because
we can never hear from it and we've never identified it,

(02:34):
and I want to dive into That's what we're diving
into here, right, this is what we're looking at, what
we're staying with. And again, thank you for being here,
thank you for listening. If you have been getting something
from these podcasts, I would love if you would share
with somebody, right because I think that's one of the
biggest things that we can do, is give a little
bit of tidbits to help people move along in their
day or struggling things are struggling with and grow from.

(02:57):
And I hate to be this guy, but I have
to be turned on those downloads right so that the
podcast downloads and are download the podcast and that automatically
ALMOSTO you're with the new episodes, and these are important
because it helps us know that we're actually reaching people.
And I don't want to spend too much time on
that because I think it's it takes away from the

(03:17):
fact that we're talking about real, deep wounds that for
a lot of us we have prevalently And I've seen
this again with the conversations that I've had with people
that are going to be on the show or that
already have been uh, and just the comment sections in
my videos whenever posting the social media. It just it
just shows us the reality that we're not the only

(03:39):
ones struggling with this, Like we're not the only ones
that struggle to love themselves. We're not the only ones
that struggle to relieve, believe, or perceive themselves as a
person that's dignified and worthy of love. And for a
lot of people, they've been robbed of that, not necessarily
in a traumatic, super traumatic way. I mean, yeah, possibly right,

(04:01):
that's also a thing, but for a lot of people
in the simplest ways and the ways that they haven't
realized that, and the ways that when you showed up
for people, they didn't show up for you. When you
poured into people. They didn't pour it into you when
you were doing and stretching yourself thin for other people.
They never reciprocated that. So what happens is that subconsciously
or even consciously, we've integrated the way that those people

(04:24):
have treated us with the way we think we should
be treated. And this is where cutting those bridges and
knowing your words and separation is actually important. I want
to be clear, I don't I'm not a fan of
the culture of just cut everyone off and run away.
I don't think that's effective or useful. I do think
that is appropriate in certain times, but I think first
we need to make sure and analyze that is it

(04:45):
that mergs it me? Because it doesn't make sense to
cut people off that are trying to be good to
you and help you and serve you when it's just
your past mistakes or past wounds, your past trauma that
you've been dealing with that you haven't been able to
heal from, and then it's easy to just pond it
off and say, well, I don't want to change this,
so I'm gonna blame you. I want to be clear,
I'm not for that culture. I don't think that's good

(05:05):
or helpful for anyone. But I am poor understanding that
there are certain certain people in certain situations that do
deserve for you to cut them off, for you to
walk away. Why because they are not serving the version
of you that deserves to be loved and cared for.
They're more concerned with what they get from you. And

(05:28):
this happens often. Right, we've again equated the way that
we feel we should be loved or cared for by
their either attention or lack thereof. So we get into
this vicious cycle that we think that this is the
only way that that's gonna happen, That the only way
that I'm ever gonna feel like I am deserving of
something is based on the response that I get from
those people. And this happens so often. This is dichotomy

(05:53):
between the power and the relationship is shifts to one
side because now if I control how you feel, I
control how you act. A lot of people have been
stuck in that same run. They've been stuck in that
same cycle of just repeating the past dramas, the past mistakes,
the past the failures, the shortcomings from all those things,

(06:13):
because it's easier to stay in the double I know
than to go into something new, than to be able
to completely change and make something different. And we'll talk
a little bit more about that after this quick commercial break.
If self love feels fake to you, it's not because
you're broken. It's because you were trained to believe being

(06:35):
hard on yourself is normal. Like you have been convinced
that the only way to give yourself tough love is
to be hard on you, is to push yourself in
different ways. And the reality is that that's not motivation,
that's self degregation. We're not looking at this from the
scope of how do I push myself to be better?
We're looking at it from the scope of how do

(06:56):
I punish myself or not being better? And the biggest
struggle there is that we may this into this terrible
cycle of life that now we also equate that with
other people. We think that if they don't do the
same before us, that if they don't speak to us,
how we think we need to be spoken to you? Right,
Because again we're tying this in to what we've been
taught in condition that that is love. That we think

(07:18):
that that that's how we're staying This is why so
many people staying vicious cycles, They stay in so many
terrible things because it's so easy to just receive what
you think you deserve. Now, listen to that. Clearly, it's
so easy to receive what you think you deserve. So
if you change what you think you deserve, if the
way you think and perceive and act. Again, I'm not

(07:39):
saying it's easy. I never want people to think that
you're gonna wake up tomorrow and everything be perfectly fine.
I'm saying there is a process to this. If we
change the way we address these things, if we change
the way we allow things to be addressed to us,
if we change the way that people speak to us
or allow them to speak to us, then we begin
to change how we think. And this is I'm gonna

(08:00):
mess it up, probably, But if you change the way
you think, you'll change the way you live. If you're
able to change the perception of what life is and
what you agree with what you've allowed, you'll completely change yourself.
Hating yourself is not change. Like choosing to look at
the worst version of you and say, well, you are this,

(08:21):
and you are that, you would become your own biggest enemy.
You become your own biggest critic. When you were meant
to be your own biggest cheerleader. When you do not
motivate yourself by hating yourself, by self degregating, is not motivating,
it's killing. And you don't allow things to grow and
flourish in places that you have been so bad to you.
I shared this before, and there was an Ikia study

(08:41):
done and I just real quick where they spoke to
two different plans and they said the same. They put
them the same room, same light, same food, all that stuff,
But they spoke to one really poorly and one really well.
And the one that was spoken to well grew and flourish,
and the one that was spoken too poorly died and
just became brown. If a plant can live off of
the words that receive, how much more do you do?

(09:04):
The you that are sentient are human. You can choose
to dwell on things and grow in things or remaining things,
and it's easy for you to stay there. But the
reason that we think that self hate is self love
is because we've been told that you should not be
joyful or happy about you, that you should want to change.
And I'm not saying don't want to change, because again,

(09:25):
you should want to be better. You should want to progress,
but you should also give yourself enough love and grace
in the stages that you're in right now to know
that those stages are for right now. And yes, I'm
not saying don't motivate yourself to be better, absolutely, because
that's the fullness of love. If you love yourself fully,
you will push yourself to be better. But you know

(09:47):
not to not to kill yourself, not to diminish you
in the stages that you're in now, just in hopes
of thinking that's motivation. That's not motivation. That again is attack.
And yes there's use for a certain things like that.
There is use for you feeling like this is the
worst place to be in and you're tired of being
in that place. That's good. That's good motivation to no

(10:09):
longer want to remain in a place that you know
you don't belong. But it's not good motivation to sit
here and destroy the character of who you are. The
way we reshaped that, the way we we menage that
gues We're gonna talk about psychological components in a minute,
but before we get there, just this. We're shaping. We're
shaping that image. We're shaping how we see that it's
knowing that I still have value and still have worth

(10:30):
despite the fact that I'm not where I want to be,
despite the fact that I'm not in the physical fitness
that I want to be, that I'm on the financially
say that I want to be, that I'm not the
relationship that I want to be, man the career that
I want to be. Despite those things, I still have
worth in value, and my worth and value will never
change if those things are in my life. So if
I do better in my career, my worth and value

(10:53):
doesn't change. If I get married, my worth and value
doesn't change. If I get six pack abs, my worth
and value does not change. Because when we start basing
our worth and value on what we do, we will
never have worth of value because it will never be enough.
You will never be able to do enough in this
world that will change that for you. And that's the point,

(11:16):
right No matter the level of success, the peak that
you hit, the mountain of loving yourself you're struggling to
love yourself is always going to be there if you
have given that mountain a position as to what you do.
So if your success is depicting how much you love
you, you will never be successful enough to love yourselfuly because

(11:40):
there's so much more. Like you could be the best
videographer in the world. It could be the best podcast
in the world. You could be the best accountant in
the world. And even then you should be pushing yourself
to more because there is more. You might be the
best in the world, but there's someone catching up to you.
There's other people that are doing amazing things. There are
other places that you need to be better. So what

(12:03):
we do is that we put this goal. And there's
something I've been working on and I think the last
episode was the one fallacy, and this is something that
I've been coining. I haven't found out anywhere. If it exists,
it used me, but I've been talking about the one fallacy.
And we keep putting when in front of things like
the reason that we don't succeed, we're not happy, we're

(12:23):
not joyful, is because we say when, so when I
do this, when this happens, when I feel this way?
When when this? When that We keep putting this fallacy
of when because we think that that thing is going
to happen, and when the things happens, that that's when
you can do anything else. That's a lie. Knowing that
they're going to progress and be better. That's good, that's
what you are. That's the benefit of being you, of

(12:46):
being able to change and adapt and grow. But those
things do not depict the value and work that you have.
And if you keep saying when, then you'll never be
So that just that reality, Right, How do we shape
that We understand that our self worth and our value
is not depicted on our successes. It's not depicted in

(13:07):
the world around us, but it's just depicted in us,
in who we are and what we bring to the
table and the value that we have. It's not based
on anything or anyone else. The truth is, if you
spoke to your friends the way you speak to yourself,
you wouldn't have any So why not stay and start
being your own friend? Like, actually give yourself the encourage.

(13:30):
I say this often again, podcasts are always so good
for this because there are things that we all know, right,
Like there's things that I'm saying on this podcast that
you've probably listened to and heard a million times, and
all these things and you probably say it to other people,
But sometimes we need someone else to tell us what
we already know, Like we need someone else to help
us walk through things and unpack things and just be

(13:53):
aware of things that we already know. So whenever I
talk to people about stuff like this, I always say
to them, what would you say you like? What would
you if you were me? Right, we're switching roles, and
I was the one in your situation, I was the
one that was struggling to feel love, or to feel joy,
or to feel these things. If I was the one
in your shoes, what's the advice you would give to me?
And I always reversed, and they will give some amazing advice,

(14:17):
to give some of the greatest advice in the world,
And I'm like, that's amazing advice. Why don't you take it?
Because it's easy for us to tell other people, but
it's harder for us to receive it to ourselves. So
this exercise of looking at your thing and giving yourself advice,
telling yourself, what would you do? Appropriately in there, I
mean able to step away, because what happens is sometimes
we're so engulfed in things that those things become everything

(14:38):
we think of. So stepping away from that, stepping out
of that allows you to really just be able to
just be bold and honest with you, So what advice
would you give yourself? For most of us, you're your
own biggest enemy, when in reality, you were supposed to
be your own biggest support system. You were supposed to
be the one that chears you on. You're supposed to
you are the voice that you hear consistently. Right, You're

(15:01):
the person that that is is in your life and
in your mind? Why is it that you have to
be the one that kills you the most? And self
hate is a habit, like listen to like any habit,
anything that we repeatedly do, we become right that old phrase,
your habits are your life. What habits you have would

(15:22):
be the habits you become. And self hate has become
a habit for a lot of people. Like it's easy
to talk down to us, We talk down to ourselves.
So that's why when other people do it too, we
just allow it to roll off our shoulders. We stay
in that because we are infirm in us. It's easy
to be hated when you don't love you. You perceive
those things. You think that that's the love you deserve,
So that's lovely remain in. It's a habit. We need

(15:46):
to break the habit of self hate. We need to
break the habit of degregation. We need to break the
habit of making us the worst version of us just
because someone told us that's what we were. You need
to learn to yourself in every struggle, because again, the
struggle doesn't define you. You define the struggle. What you do next,
how you remove yourself, what you change, and that that's

(16:08):
where you change, that's where you grow. And then the
most powerful thing you will ever do, the most emotionally
and emotionally intelligent thing you will ever do, is learn
to have compassion for yourself, like learn to give yourself
mercy and grace, learn to live in something that was
ready given to you, not because you're perfect, not because
you have to figured it out, but simply because you

(16:29):
deserve it. And we are going to be the worst
versions of ourselves if we keep depicting and depending our
love on everything else, our self worth on everything else,
or value on everything else. We have to be our
own biggest advocate. So what advice would you give that

(16:50):
person like you were in these shoes right now, You're
struggling with this thing, whatever that thing is. What would
you tell them? How would you walk with them? What
would be the advice you say to them? What would
you tell them to be harder on themselves or would
you tell them to give themselves some grace. Would you
look at them and say you deserve what you got
or would you look at them and say you never
deserved it. And if you were there and you're in
this now, it doesn't mean that you remaining in it.

(17:11):
Do you continue to beat yourself down? Or do you
tell them things happen, we learned, we improve, and we change.
But if we stay in this, if we continue to
live in that kind of life, no one's going to
hate you more than you. And the irony is that
no one should love you more than you should be

(17:32):
the one that's consistent with you. The best revenge you
will ever have on someone who hurt you is it revenge.
It's loving yourself despite everything else. There are some people
who hurt you and made you feel like you don't
deserve love, or they they tain to the image of
love that you've had, or you wanted to give so
much to them and pour so much into them that

(17:54):
that you overpour it and now you feel like you
have nothing left for anyone else. The greatest revenge that
you will ever have on the person who hurts you.
Is learning to love yourself so deeply that they never
have access to you again. Is learning to be this
version of you. It's just content that isn't miserable, isn't hurt,
isn't dwelling in their pain, but is changing and persevering

(18:17):
and everything else because you didn't allow them to walk
away with the love you deserved. You depicted it, you
created it, you lived in it because it's yours. And
at this point, we can only demand the things that
we believe we deserve. We will never be who we are,
we never receive the love we deserve if we continue

(18:38):
to stay in these things simply because we think that
that's who we are. Unfortunately, a lot of people are
living under what they deserve because they've allowed someone else
to actually take that from them. You deserve the fullness
of love. You deserve the completeness of what it is,
not partiality. And this is every relationship, not romantic guess again,

(19:00):
easy picking, right, it's low hanging fruit, but every single
relationship in your life you deserve the fullness of those things.
Those friendships, you deserve, the fullness the family members you
deserve the fullnus. Yeah, so ROMANTICALLYATIONP. You deserve the fullness.
Every relationship deserves the full version of you, in the
full version of it. And we'll talk a little bit
more after these last few commercials. I refuse to love

(19:23):
me less just because some people couldn't appreciate it, like
the reality of my value or the lack of their love.
They couldn't depict that right, They couldn't change that in me.
So I refuse to allow people that didn't have the
fullness of me to tell me that I'm not avable
capable of receiving full love. Learning to love yourself isn't

(19:46):
just liking what you look like or what you have
or what you valuate. It's learning everything you do flows
from who you are. It's understanding these three things. One
that no one is going to save you, and no
one is responsible for you except you, Like there's no
one in this world who's going to come into your
life and love you so much and pour into you

(20:07):
so fully that you are gonna feel full and whole.
That there's nothing that anyone else can do for you
that you shouldn't have already done for you. Because if
you give them the power to do that, then you
rob yourself with the power to live in it. Two,
it isn't your job to be liked. This is a
big one. It's not your job to be liked. You

(20:28):
don't have to change or mold or be different than
that's who you are, to fit into places so that
somebody could like you. If they don't like you, then
you have been given a gift. You have been removed
from a place that you thought you needed to be
in for something that you just don't have to. It's
not your job to get people to like you. The
people that love you will love you fully for you,
not for what you do, for what you provide, simply

(20:50):
because you are. Those are the people that you need
in your life. And they might be many, you might
be few, but whatever it is, they won't change how
you view you. And Three, life will continue, whether you
enjoy it or not. Like this is a scary thing
that life is gonna keep going. Life is gonna continue,

(21:11):
is gonna keep moving, it's gonna keep changing. Whether you
choose to love your life or enjoy it, or be
the best version of it or not, It's still gonna
keep going. The only thing you're doing is wasting the time.
The only thing you're doing is sitting through this thing
and knowing that there's potential impossibility of something more, but
not living in that. You have the choice today right

(21:33):
now to say I'm going to live in something full
like I'm not going to stay in the cycle of
hurt because I've been hurt, but I'm gonna live in
the fullness of who I am. This is our reality,
right We have the choices to do more and to
be more and to act like we deserve more or
or the opposite. Where we have the choices to live under.

(21:55):
We have the choices to remain in this thing. This
mountain of loving yourself is never going to move unless
you finally identify one of the wounds that have happened
to you where they stem from. Who told you that
you couldn't be loved. To knowing that you have value
when worth despite anything else. Three shifting your mind, being
able to think and change and be perspective and change
that introspective about you before anything else, And three that

(22:22):
the four that life is going to continue you like.
The reality is that we either continue to do the
same thing or we change. We can't want things to
be different it continue to stay in the same place.
For a lot of us. It isn't confidence that we lack,
its self love. And there's a huge difference between the two.
And and I wanted to break this down just a

(22:42):
little bit too, because it's easily confused as confidence, like
there are a lot of people who are very confident
but don't fully love themselves. And I know it sounds
a little bit like it's contradictory, right, because for you
to be confident, you need to know that everything is
based on you and I'm actually gona give you the finish, right.
So confidence is a belief in your ability to do

(23:03):
a thing. It's skill based, situation specific, and grows from
reps and results. It answers can I self love? However,
self love regard, respect, and care for yourself regardless of
your performance. It's identified, its identity level and stable that answers,

(23:24):
am I worthy even if I can't? So, first of all,
there's two things that we need. We need to be confident,
but we also need to love ourselves fully. Confidence Well,
this is a beauty because confidence builds to self love, right,
So this is the entry point to self love. The
confident me is that the one that enters into the
self love me. So we talked about habits, right, building

(23:46):
your habit and being able to know that that self
hate is a habit. Self love is a habit. That
same way, confidence is built by repetition. Like your habits,
that becomes your confidence. Like, what's a great example of this?
A piano. So I've played piano for a number of
years of my life, right, and I'm not the greatest.
It's not my main instrument. I just learned it. Well.

(24:06):
The reason I really learned it was because I want
to impress a girl. My first song ever was Casey
and Jojo on the piano, and I started like go
on YouTube and just learning songs. And as I went
into the worship atmosphere and ministry, I picked up more
a little bit more. I got a little bored. I'm
a drummer, so you don't always want to be loud.
But the way that I became confident in playing certain

(24:29):
things was repetition, right, is learning to play over and
over and over again. And that was a habit that
was built. Right, so I knew where my hands would land.
I knew I could look up and talk and do
all these things and still play at the same time
because it was already a repetitive thing in me. That's
the same concept with anything with any emotion, with any

(24:51):
action in ourselves. If we know that we have a
negative thought, right and we don't address that thought, we
let it linger, we let it marin it, we let
it ruminate, we let that thing be something stronger. If
we don't address it, it's going to stay. It will
remain in that same place. Why because the habit was

(25:12):
that the thought appeared. I knew the thought appeared, and
I decided to turn away from it, didn't address it,
didn't change it, nothing became different. So I'm confident in myself.
I know that I've practiced disability, but when that thought
lingered in my mind, that thing stayed. Self love is

(25:33):
knowing that even if I couldn't do the thing, even
if I couldn't play the piano, that I still have worth.
That my worth is not dictated on my ability to
do a thing. It's dictated on who I am already.
It's based on me and not on it. And this
is a mountain that I feel like remains in a

(25:54):
lot of people's lives for a long time. So I
don't want it again, don't never want to make it
seem as if this is going to be something that
tomorrow it could be easily or automatically fixed. It's not
just gonna change overnight. But it is something that we're
able to address. And for the reason a lot of
people struggle with this for a long time is because
this mountain shows up in different places. It's not just
how I see myself, right, because for some people it

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might be physical. They might see themselves in the mirror
and not like who they are, so they learn to
not love them because society has told them that they
shouldn't love that person. Again, I'm not saying don't change.
I'm not saying you don't work. I'm not saying you
don't grow. I'm saying to love the stages that you're
in because you know you're worth of your value, not
the worst, the value that's dictator or anything else. So
for a lot of people that change in categories, it

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might be how they look, or might be their finances,
or it might be their relationships, and you might pop
up in different places. But when this habit of loving
yourself is firm, every situation that pops up pops up
in every mountain of that comes into it changes. You're
able to address it fully. You're able to look at
that thing and say, well, okay, it's bad to do

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something about it. But that does not depict me. That
does not tell me who I am and what I'm worth.
That's not all of me. So thank you for being
on this episode. Thank you for you're just constant support
and does people that make it at the end of
this episode, you're the best because there's something here for you.

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So just echoing the things I said before in the
very beginning, and I'm trying to get better at this.
I'm not good at like telling people, hey, listen to
my episode or download the podcast because I'm supposed to.
But I'm not good at that because that's one of
my mountains, because it's not something that I've ever ingrained
in my mind, Like it's not something I'm like, oh yeah,
let me remember to tell people to download the episodes,

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because that's how we measure things, or tell or share
the episodes or it's never something there. I just hope
that people know that, right, And I guess that's a
bad thing. We shouldn't We shouldn't assume that people know things.
But it is how you are able to keep this episode,
these episodes going, podcast growing as we grow and as
we bring people on. Those are our metrics. So thank

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you for going and giving those five stars and downloading
those episodes and sharing it with people and posting on
your story and those are all the most amazing things
I could ever asked for. That's how you support me,
and I thank you so much for that. I thank
you for being here, thank you for the person that
just needed to receive this and received it. And this
is to go with our with our podcast here. So

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we have some interesting episodes coming up, and I would
love to hear from you, like That's something I mentioned
before and I'm still kind of working instructure in that,
but made mademore Motivated dot com that's my website, and
in that website I added a box for suggestions or
questions or things that you want to talk about in here,
and I would love to integrate that why because again

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you're here right, you're listening, you're speaking. I want to
be able to address that with you, like what do
you want to hear? What do you want to talk about?
What is it that I can be more intentional about?
Obviously we have our season scripted and all that amazing
stuff and important things, but I would love to pepper
that in because it means so much to me to

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hear people's story. It means so much to me to
know that there's something impactful happening, and it means so
much to me to know that you are here. So
thank you for listening to this episode, and we'll catch
you on the next one.