January 21, 2024 • 27 mins
2024 is about healing! And we need to heal from intergenerational trauma.
This week, Malik is joined by Dr. Mariel Buqué, author of BREAK THE CYCLE: A Guide to Healing Intergenerational Trauma.
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Books Yet they have all the books that the whole
wild world Wunner reads Malague Books. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to
Malik's Bookshell, bringing a world together with books, culture and community. Hi,
my name is Malik, your host of Malik's Bookshow. This
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has been an amazing start to twenty twenty four and
let me tell you I was blessed on January thirteenth
to host a wonderful Hitler. Someone this electric and has sunshine.
A doctor in psychology. She lives in New Jersey, but
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traveled in a groundbreaking loop book to Milak Books to
talk about break the Cycle, a guy to healing intertransgenerational trauma.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
This book.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Was powerful, her speech was powerful, her conversation was powerful,
and it was a healing session that took place at
Malie Books. I'm gonna share my interview with her.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
For a few minutes that I was able to take
with her Doctor Muriel Bouquet. I also want to share
some of doctor Muriel's Bouquet conversation with our moderator and Flores,
who's an entrepreneur and has her own movement in her right,
but she had a wonderful and engaging conversation with doctor
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Muriell Bouquet.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
So I'm gonna feature some of.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
That talk as well, and that's gonna be my segment
because this is twenty twenty four and it's about healing
and we need to heal from intergenerational trauma. See, because
we're passing on from one generation to the next these
issues and these problems to continue to plan us now.
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So if we want to heal from the past, we
have to understand the now.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
The present, so that we can change the future.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
And so that's what the conversation was all about, doctor
Muriel Bouquet. So I'm gonna let her speak for this
groundbreaking new book that just came out, dis available at
all bookstores, but you gotta go to miliebooks dot com
and purchase a copy from us and support us. We
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do we still do have a few signing copies, So hey,
go to miliebooks dot com pick up Break the Cycle,
a Healing God to transgenerational trump Man. Let me say this,
what's coming up at Malik Books. We're kicking off Black
History Month with comment That's right, the Grammy winner, the
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Emmy winner, the Oscar Winner.
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Common at Malague Books coming to.
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The Neighborhood February third. Now you got this is a
ticket event. You got artists with you for this part
of our Black History event because we're taking over the mall.
We're doing music, dancing, we're doing book signings, free books.
We're giving them well a couple of thousand books to
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They are partnering with us in the Lahmart Park book
festal and we're bringing to Los Angeles our inaugural Black
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His new book out and then We Rise.
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It's a book about healing both mentally and physically, easy
to follow tips and affirmations, things that can change your
life because only then can change happen, and.
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Then we can ride.
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Now this is a ticketed event. You gotta go to
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We want to blow up this event at Melik Books.
We want to take over the mall. We want to
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You got an RSVP for the comed event, This Black
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History inaugural event at Westfield Coast Whites. The main event
is going to take place inside of Elite Books as
were common, but everything else is downstairs on the ground
level next to Macy's Center Court. Music dancing, Joso to
Bozo to clown, book giveaways, la.
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Sparks in the house.
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We got African dancing, we got jazz being played.
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Listen. This is a festival, but we kicking.
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Off third twenty twenty four Black History Month right here
at Westfield Covid City Mall. Produced by the Lamart Park
Village Book Fair and Melik Books in partnership with the Westfield.
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Covid City Mall.
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Go to emelikbooks dot com for more detail and the
register for our kickoff event with award winning Emmy Oscar
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we rise a guide to Loving and taking care of Self.
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Happy New Year everyone. I have doctor Muriel Bouquet, and
you know what she wrote this book called Breaking the Cycle,
a God to Healing Chance, inter transgenerational trauma. Well, hey,
she can tell you more about this book. But this
is the beginning of New Year, and this is my
first episode this year on my podcast, Malik's Bookshelf. Bring
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the world together with books, culture and community.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
How you doing, doctor, I'm doing.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
So good and I love your energy so much.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Hey, I always say, you know, we're gonna be doing
this event today, and I'm so thankful just to kick
off the year with you. You know, I hear that
your book is a national bestseller and it's breaking barriers,
and so I got a chance to have an event
with you tonight.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
But before we get started, I.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Got to handcuffed you an interview for my podcast release Bookshew,
So tell me.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
A all about your book.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Well, at Break the Cycle is literally what it is
as a guide, It's a guide's healing into generational trauma.
Is to help us to uncover the wounds of the
past that have been flowing through generations of our families
and communities, and the hurt and the wounds that have
gone on unaddressed, that have been in the shadows of
our family closets, and the wounds that continue to perpetuate
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generation after generation. And it's a guide for us to
start shedding that and stepping into legacies of abundance.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Wow wow, wow.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Well, you know what, I'm tired of the excuses. I'm
tired of the complaining I'm tired of us, you know,
not doing we're supposed to be. I think we're responsible
to make these changes. And I see you got some solutions.
Instead of talking about the trauma and the problem, tell
me a little bit about the solutions.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Well, the solutions have to be mind, body, spirit, culture.
So we have to have multi level solutions, because intergenerational
trauma is actually the type of emotional wound that hurts
us at all of those levels. So in our mind,
we have to like work on our emotions and our bodies,
we have to work on settling our nervous system. In
our spirit, we have to work on reconnecting, grounding, rerooting,
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and also reconnecting to ourselves. And then in culture, we
have to start excavating the wounds that are situated in
our cultures and the ways in which our cultures continue
to perpetuate traumas into our communities by way of all
the things that happen in our society. Our societies can
be very traumatizing. There's so many ways in which, you know,
systems traumatize us, so many ways in which our cultural
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norms tend to traumatize us.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
And so the.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Actual solution has to be at all of those levels.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Absolutely not on one particular thing. You know, it's not
as simple as we think. We have to address all
of those elements and that could be challenging. And so
what are some of the strategies that you use to
break through those shackles.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
It's gonna be really I love this question. This. I
got to just say, this is probably one of my
favorite questions that I've gotten so far period on the book.
And you know, breaking the shackles of the past, I
really lean on the wisdom of Living Ancestress and Angela
Davis and the ways in which she helps us to understand,
like we must liberate our minds as well as liberate society.
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So in the Liberation of the mind piece, it's going
to be really critical for us to actually like ground
ourselves by reconnecting with our ancestor roots by actually doing
deep breathing, like for real, like really getting into deep
breathing and getting ourselves really grounded on a day to
day basis, even if it's just five minutes a day
of just like doing deep breaths, it can do wonders
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for bodies that are historical, that are caught up in
a historical terror that still lives in us. And when
it comes to the liberating of society, it's also about,
you know, disseminating the kinds of texts like this one
that can be liberatory to our communities, like give people
the tools to self liberate, and this is one of
those tools.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Wonderful, wonderful one. We got a big show tonight, Saul.
I would love to continue this conversay, but we're about
to have a huge event. Is sold out, packed house.
They came out to see you. They gonna hear about
breaking the cycle. Hey, God, the Healy Interogenerational Trauma by
doctor Murio Bouquet.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Yes, thank you so much for having me. This is
such an honor, truly, truly.
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To murial Oka that everybody came here to see.
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So I'm gonna introduce you and Florence a community builder
and a soul centric entrepreneur.
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And Florens is living.
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Her passion as the founder of we All Pro Latina
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Listen, we got to develop entrepreneur spirit all through this
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She was born in Houston, Texas, raised in outside of
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By the now in the famous phrase she coined thirteen
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We must do what we need to do to make
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So y'all give it up and Florida, you know, welcome,
Thank you all for being here.
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Now, y'all all came for doctor Muriel, who came the
author of Break Disciple, a god to healing into generational
trauma all right now.
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Doctor Muriel buka Is is a Columbia University trained.
Speaker 7 (15:34):
Trauma Informed SAE College professor and to Sound Bath healer.
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She has appeared as an expert on Good Money America
and Today and of The Lord, So Glamor and welp
Us Good, among men other outlets, and has offer her.
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Wellness talks to corporations such as Google, Capital One, and Meta.
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She is originally from Dominican Republic and currently lives in
New Jersey.
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And she's here in the neighborhood and belief boss, so
let's bring it.
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What a roundable put doctor Millia, Okay.
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We forgot to say one thing though, we're all going
to get up and celebrate this one.
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She's a national best sellar.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
And how do we access our intergenerational higher self? That's
one of my favorites. Sis.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
You know, the higher self has been like I think,
popularized enough that a lot of us understand. Okay, it's
a wiser part of you, right, But the intergenerational higher
self is not just the wisest aspect of your mind
and the wisdom that you carry inherently by just the
genius that you are, but also the wisdom and strength
that's been passed down generation to generation that has landed
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upon you.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
And it's wisdom that is tangible wisdom, like things that people.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Have said, words of affirmation, ways in which you know,
family members have said, hey, you know, you may want
to kind of watch out for this, right, Like that's wisdom,
But there's also inherent wisdom. And there's also, like I
explain more in the book, I don't want to get
too heavy about it, but there is a biological also
like aspect of how we inherit wisdom and strength from ancestors.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
But all of that lives in us. But because we're
so busy, because we're so like.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
On autopilot as a global community, we don't have baked
into our society ways in which we can actually pause
and reflect on the inherent wisdom and and strength that's
in us. Like I say in the book, you know,
take a moment and pause and think, what was the
last thing that you had to overcome?
Speaker 5 (18:10):
What got you through? If you think about that now
and you start thinking, like, huh, what did get me through?
Speaker 8 (18:19):
Who was with me?
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Like in in spirit, like who was guiding me?
Speaker 17 (18:23):
Who was just because they showed me love on a
day to day basis, I felt their love and their
presence allowed me to persevere through this circumstance.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Those are the things that are there that allow you
to then also have the reservoir of wisdom that you're
going to need for the journey ahead. But I'm getting
I'm getting a little bit sidetracked.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
So it's a generational higher self. It's also it's.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
It's the version of ourselves that is m more inhaling,
the version of ourselves that utilizes that wisdom intentionally and
and and gathers it and goes to the root of.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
The all of the.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Beautiful gems that are there in our communities, and like
really like sits and meditates on on the things that
a lot of us have been like because of colonizations,
disconnected from and and that intergenerational higher self leans on
that wisdom.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
You lean on the wisdom of your intergenerational higher self
on a day to day basis. So how do we acquire.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Many times, it's just by sitting in silence, It's by journaling,
It's by.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
Having conversations, even with you know, people that we love.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
My cousin, they said, the future doctor my suster is here,
and she is somebody who's a fellow psycho breaker with me,
and I have conversations with her, and I'm like, yo,
where did that come from?
Speaker 5 (19:47):
Like I you know, And so that's my intergenerational higher self.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Like she's dope, you know, Like she's out there like
always like guiding me and like helping me to to
connect to parts of me that the busy of day
to day life.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Don't allow me to connect you very readily.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
But when I can like connect with people that hold
me in love, when I connect with myself, when I
connect with silence, when I connect with the universal elements,
of life.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
When I sit and I I do this and ask
the people that are close to me. I sit and
I watch the moment, y'all, like I have Like I
was just in.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Carpenteria, I have like ten pictures of the moon from
like two days ago.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
When I sit with those moments, I'm.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Able to access the wiser parts of me. And I
want us to do that more, because that's how we're.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
Supposed to exist.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
We're not supposed to exist in this like ever evolving,
like never ending cycle of stimulation. We're supposed to be
in a headspace with ourselves and befriend ourselves. And so
when we can do that, we can have greater access
to that intergenerational wisdom that's there.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
And uh, still, I love Still. I love that.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
I love that still is out in the world, y'all.
Have I kept Still in like my back pocket for forever.
And my my team kept saying, can we.
Speaker 14 (21:23):
Make this graphic of void still?
Speaker 4 (21:24):
And I'm like, no, it can't go out into the
world because I couldn't get I couldn't put it out
because there's you know, there's contractual.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
Things that you can't do. But I'm like, it's out.
Speaker 14 (21:33):
People can do still.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
So I'm just really excited that it gets to be
in your hands because it's a tool that when I
tell you, people respond so well to this tool.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
And I use it all the time, and it's a
tool that is also a relationship building. It's supposed to
be to calm your nervous system and to really help
you gain a steady mind, but I think it's much
more than that because it also offers you an opportunity
to do.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
That so that you can come back into your relationships.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
With a common goal in mind that can be solution
focused and not relationships destroying.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
So STILL is an actual acronym. We love acronyms and psychology,
and I don't know why we do this, but STILL.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Stands for stop temperature inhale lay launch And basically, imagine.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
You're sitting at the family table and all of a
sudden somebody says something. They come out their base and.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Tell me, tell me more. So, obviously you know your
nervous system's gonna respond and it's gonna start preparing to
protect you.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
And what we do in that moment the best course
of action.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
And of course it takes practice, and I always tell
people practice when you don't need it, so that when
you do need it, you've already.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
Built mastery over the school. But you picture a stop sign.
The S is for stop, So you picture a stop
sign and you freeze in place.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Don't do anything else because whatever it's gonna come out
your mouth might destroy that relationship, might make things worse.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
You might feed the cycle. So you wanna kind of
just pause. The TEA is for temperature. And I know
that many of you have.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Probably been in, you know, down the rabbit hole of
like cold water stimulation and then water plunges and all
those things. They're actually really effective tools to use in
our day to day life.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Cold water plunges as an extreme version of it, right
you're not gonna go from the kitchen from the table,
But as an extreme version of it.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
It actually does help us to release endorphins that can
actually calm down our nervous system and calm down that
threat response and help us feel more at ease.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
And so a version of that that I would do
like in therapy, and this will work really great with you.
Like my kid clients loved it and it worked really
well with them.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Was we would actually have ice, but not because there
was a therapy offcause you would have just a little
freezer and like.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
The ice cubes that are like reusable, the ones that
are in plastic.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
But you can use ice. You can splash your face
with cold water. You can you know, just hold the ice,
put it somewhere on your face, like you want the
cold stimulation to actually start regenerating, like those endorphins that
you're gonna need to just like.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
Really cool off.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
And I always say, like it's kind of a version
of like pulling off your emotions, but like a really
tangible version of it.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
The eye's been inhale and it.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
You know, deep breathing has been very popularized, and I'm
really happy for that.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
But the thing about deep breathing that we're not saying
enough is that we need.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
At least five minutes of deep breaths in order for
our nervous systems.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
To catch up to the fact that we're trying to
help it relax. And so for five minutes take the moment.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Like that means that you might need to like exit
the table for a bit and take those deep breaths,
because your nervous system will then.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
Say, Okay, I'm in a better place. I am no
longer in that.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Threat response where I need to lunch at this person.
I'm in a place where the steadiness is in. And
the added benefit of that is that our our actual
like brain region, our cortical region that you know, we
in essence like need to be at its mean the
neuro's top science and your shadows better. But we do
need that area of our brain to actually be in
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its optimal functioning, to be solution oriented, to be able
to be like cognitively flexible and be creative. And if
that part of our brain is in essence like in
survival mode, we're not gonna have the opportunity to access
the genius that's there.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
So deep breathing, the first l is for lay, which
is just like go somewhere and just either lay.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Down or sit down, just exit whatever energy space you're
in and just go sit somewhere else and just taking
the energy there that's perhaps a little bit more calm
and doesn't have that tension in it, and then launches
to come back and re engage, come back into the circumstance.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
That you just exit it, but now with a steadier mind,
with a.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Steadier nervous system, and with an ability to be solution
focused that can actually forge a connection between yourself and
the other person rather.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
Than create a disruption that could, you know, be very detrimental.
I'm gonna thank you.
Speaker 18 (26:34):
For leading into your higher self, for the work that
you have done to heal, for embodying that, for breaking
the cycles, and for sharing your medicine with us. This
is a very important book that I really hope that
you all take with you, that you all heal with,
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that you all really make a practice, and that you
share as well.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
Because we do live by.
Speaker 14 (27:01):
When one grows, we all grow.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
When one heels, we all heal.
Speaker 18 (27:04):
And this is definitely what I am caring for all
of you here, and thank all of you for following
your own higher selves.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
To be here today, to making the choice to be
here for you.
Speaker 14 (27:15):
So thank you so much.
Speaker 18 (27:17):
Thank you so much, Money Books for having us, and
now please thank you the books.
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Malik's Bookshell, bringing a world together with books, culture and community. Hi,
my name is Malik, your host of Malik's Bookshow. This
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has been an amazing start to twenty twenty four and
let me tell you I was blessed on January thirteenth
to host a wonderful Hitler. Someone this electric and has sunshine.
A doctor in psychology. She lives in New Jersey, but
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traveled in a groundbreaking loop book to Milak Books to
talk about break the Cycle, a guy to healing intertransgenerational trauma.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
This book.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Was powerful, her speech was powerful, her conversation was powerful,
and it was a healing session that took place at
Malie Books. I'm gonna share my interview with her.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
For a few minutes that I was able to take
with her Doctor Muriel Bouquet. I also want to share
some of doctor Muriel's Bouquet conversation with our moderator and Flores,
who's an entrepreneur and has her own movement in her right,
but she had a wonderful and engaging conversation with doctor
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Muriell Bouquet.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
So I'm gonna feature some of.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
That talk as well, and that's gonna be my segment
because this is twenty twenty four and it's about healing
and we need to heal from intergenerational trauma. See, because
we're passing on from one generation to the next these
issues and these problems to continue to plan us now.
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So if we want to heal from the past, we
have to understand the now.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
The present, so that we can change the future.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
And so that's what the conversation was all about, doctor
Muriel Bouquet. So I'm gonna let her speak for this
groundbreaking new book that just came out, dis available at
all bookstores, but you gotta go to miliebooks dot com
and purchase a copy from us and support us. We
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do we still do have a few signing copies, So hey,
go to miliebooks dot com pick up Break the Cycle,
a Healing God to transgenerational trump Man. Let me say this,
what's coming up at Malik Books. We're kicking off Black
History Month with comment That's right, the Grammy winner, the
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The Neighborhood February third. Now you got this is a
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We're giving them well a couple of thousand books to
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They are partnering with us in the Lahmart Park book
festal and we're bringing to Los Angeles our inaugural Black
History event and comment is our headline.
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His new book out and then We Rise.
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It's a book about healing both mentally and physically, easy
to follow tips and affirmations, things that can change your
life because only then can change happen, and.
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Then we can ride.
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Now this is a ticketed event. You gotta go to
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We want to blow up this event at Melik Books.
We want to take over the mall. We want to
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You got an RSVP for the comed event, This Black
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History inaugural event at Westfield Coast Whites. The main event
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were common, but everything else is downstairs on the ground
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Sparks in the house.
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We got African dancing, we got jazz being played.
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Listen. This is a festival, but we kicking.
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Off third twenty twenty four Black History Month right here
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Covid City Mall.
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Go to emelikbooks dot com for more detail and the
register for our kickoff event with award winning Emmy Oscar
grab me comment exclusively signing his new book, and then
we rise a guide to Loving and taking care of Self.
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Happy New Year everyone. I have doctor Muriel Bouquet, and
you know what she wrote this book called Breaking the Cycle,
a God to Healing Chance, inter transgenerational trauma. Well, hey,
she can tell you more about this book. But this
is the beginning of New Year, and this is my
first episode this year on my podcast, Malik's Bookshelf. Bring
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the world together with books, culture and community.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
How you doing, doctor, I'm doing.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
So good and I love your energy so much.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Hey, I always say, you know, we're gonna be doing
this event today, and I'm so thankful just to kick
off the year with you. You know, I hear that
your book is a national bestseller and it's breaking barriers,
and so I got a chance to have an event
with you tonight.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
But before we get started, I.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Got to handcuffed you an interview for my podcast release Bookshew,
So tell me.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
A all about your book.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Well, at Break the Cycle is literally what it is
as a guide, It's a guide's healing into generational trauma.
Is to help us to uncover the wounds of the
past that have been flowing through generations of our families
and communities, and the hurt and the wounds that have
gone on unaddressed, that have been in the shadows of
our family closets, and the wounds that continue to perpetuate
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generation after generation. And it's a guide for us to
start shedding that and stepping into legacies of abundance.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Wow wow, wow.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Well, you know what, I'm tired of the excuses. I'm
tired of the complaining I'm tired of us, you know,
not doing we're supposed to be. I think we're responsible
to make these changes. And I see you got some solutions.
Instead of talking about the trauma and the problem, tell
me a little bit about the solutions.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Well, the solutions have to be mind, body, spirit, culture.
So we have to have multi level solutions, because intergenerational
trauma is actually the type of emotional wound that hurts
us at all of those levels. So in our mind,
we have to like work on our emotions and our bodies,
we have to work on settling our nervous system. In
our spirit, we have to work on reconnecting, grounding, rerooting,
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and also reconnecting to ourselves. And then in culture, we
have to start excavating the wounds that are situated in
our cultures and the ways in which our cultures continue
to perpetuate traumas into our communities by way of all
the things that happen in our society. Our societies can
be very traumatizing. There's so many ways in which, you know,
systems traumatize us, so many ways in which our cultural
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norms tend to traumatize us.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
And so the.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Actual solution has to be at all of those levels.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Absolutely not on one particular thing. You know, it's not
as simple as we think. We have to address all
of those elements and that could be challenging. And so
what are some of the strategies that you use to
break through those shackles.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
It's gonna be really I love this question. This. I
got to just say, this is probably one of my
favorite questions that I've gotten so far period on the book.
And you know, breaking the shackles of the past, I
really lean on the wisdom of Living Ancestress and Angela
Davis and the ways in which she helps us to understand,
like we must liberate our minds as well as liberate society.
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So in the Liberation of the mind piece, it's going
to be really critical for us to actually like ground
ourselves by reconnecting with our ancestor roots by actually doing
deep breathing, like for real, like really getting into deep
breathing and getting ourselves really grounded on a day to
day basis, even if it's just five minutes a day
of just like doing deep breaths, it can do wonders
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for bodies that are historical, that are caught up in
a historical terror that still lives in us. And when
it comes to the liberating of society, it's also about,
you know, disseminating the kinds of texts like this one
that can be liberatory to our communities, like give people
the tools to self liberate, and this is one of
those tools.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Wonderful, wonderful one. We got a big show tonight, Saul.
I would love to continue this conversay, but we're about
to have a huge event. Is sold out, packed house.
They came out to see you. They gonna hear about
breaking the cycle. Hey, God, the Healy Interogenerational Trauma by
doctor Murio Bouquet.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Yes, thank you so much for having me. This is
such an honor, truly, truly.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Now you know you can get the book at maleikbooks
dot co for all you listening right now, but it's
sold wherever books are sold. Believe books dot Com for
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Hi, everybody doing, come on now where the energy out?
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I know.
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I can't receive the doctor the doctor, but you gotta
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Well, welcome, welcome, welcome, y'all came.
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To a beautiful black old bookstore, family own coach, really
elevated by black people, Latino people, and this is a
wonderful place to elevate our can really sit complaining them
about what's going on society. We're doing something nobody I
can find it literature in books, particularly children books.
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Why because children are one of our future. So I
want to thank you all for coming out today, and
I'm gonna introduce our moderator, and I'm gonna introduce our
main even.
Speaker 8 (11:00):
To murial Oka that everybody came here to see.
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At least you can pull that phone out and follow
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So also, I know y'all gonna be taking pictures. Y'all
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You know, I know we in for this event but
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Show up for that, right, So hey, we're gonna we
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Time Grammy winner, an active this is well, and y'all.
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All right, now, let me introduce to you Moderator to day.
But I'm gonna need to pull out the classes.
Speaker 7 (13:20):
You know, that's what happens, you know, when you ain't
even right where you know, you start not taking right.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
It's affecting your eyes too, so so I need the classes.
But now when I was young man, I can see
any way back there that ain't the taste of that.
Speaker 13 (13:41):
So I'm gonna introduce you and Florence a community builder
and a soul centric entrepreneur.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
And Florens is living.
Speaker 8 (13:51):
Her passion as the founder of we All Pro Latina
eight one Latina own it operated, communed Dripping Media and
he fits Epple System, founded in twenty ten with a
mission of connecting and fully entrepreneur spirit of Latins.
Speaker 9 (14:11):
Listen, we got to develop entrepreneur spirit all through this
country because corporate America is not going able to hire everybody.
So you've got to create opportunities for yourself, so give
it up.
Speaker 7 (14:25):
She was born in Houston, Texas, raised in outside of
her and is now settled in Los Angeles, where she
lives with her daughter and lives every day.
Speaker 13 (14:36):
By the now in the famous phrase she coined thirteen
years ago, when one pros we all problem and we
all give it up for a fluence because that's a
wonderful Together.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
We must do what we need to do to make
the change. Together. We go right together, get to make
change right.
Speaker 14 (15:01):
So y'all give it up and Florida, you know, welcome,
Thank you all for being here.
Speaker 12 (15:11):
Now, y'all all came for doctor Muriel, who came the
author of Break Disciple, a god to healing into generational
trauma all right now.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Doctor Muriel buka Is is a Columbia University trained.
Speaker 7 (15:34):
Trauma Informed SAE College professor and to Sound Bath healer.
Speaker 15 (15:42):
She has appeared as an expert on Good Money America
and Today and of The Lord, So Glamor and welp
Us Good, among men other outlets, and has offer her.
Speaker 10 (16:00):
Wellness talks to corporations such as Google, Capital One, and Meta.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
She is originally from Dominican Republic and currently lives in
New Jersey.
Speaker 15 (16:12):
And she's here in the neighborhood and belief boss, so
let's bring it.
Speaker 14 (16:18):
What a roundable put doctor Millia, Okay.
Speaker 16 (16:34):
We forgot to say one thing though, we're all going
to get up and celebrate this one.
Speaker 14 (16:38):
She's a national best sellar.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
And how do we access our intergenerational higher self? That's
one of my favorites. Sis.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
You know, the higher self has been like I think,
popularized enough that a lot of us understand. Okay, it's
a wiser part of you, right, But the intergenerational higher
self is not just the wisest aspect of your mind
and the wisdom that you carry inherently by just the
genius that you are, but also the wisdom and strength
that's been passed down generation to generation that has landed
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upon you.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
And it's wisdom that is tangible wisdom, like things that people.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Have said, words of affirmation, ways in which you know,
family members have said, hey, you know, you may want
to kind of watch out for this, right, Like that's wisdom,
But there's also inherent wisdom. And there's also, like I
explain more in the book, I don't want to get
too heavy about it, but there is a biological also
like aspect of how we inherit wisdom and strength from ancestors.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
But all of that lives in us. But because we're
so busy, because we're so like.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
On autopilot as a global community, we don't have baked
into our society ways in which we can actually pause
and reflect on the inherent wisdom and and strength that's
in us. Like I say in the book, you know,
take a moment and pause and think, what was the
last thing that you had to overcome?
Speaker 5 (18:10):
What got you through? If you think about that now
and you start thinking, like, huh, what did get me through?
Speaker 8 (18:19):
Who was with me?
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Like in in spirit, like who was guiding me?
Speaker 17 (18:23):
Who was just because they showed me love on a
day to day basis, I felt their love and their
presence allowed me to persevere through this circumstance.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Those are the things that are there that allow you
to then also have the reservoir of wisdom that you're
going to need for the journey ahead. But I'm getting
I'm getting a little bit sidetracked.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
So it's a generational higher self. It's also it's.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
It's the version of ourselves that is m more inhaling,
the version of ourselves that utilizes that wisdom intentionally and
and and gathers it and goes to the root of.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
The all of the.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Beautiful gems that are there in our communities, and like
really like sits and meditates on on the things that
a lot of us have been like because of colonizations,
disconnected from and and that intergenerational higher self leans on
that wisdom.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
You lean on the wisdom of your intergenerational higher self
on a day to day basis. So how do we acquire.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Many times, it's just by sitting in silence, It's by journaling,
It's by.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
Having conversations, even with you know, people that we love.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
My cousin, they said, the future doctor my suster is here,
and she is somebody who's a fellow psycho breaker with me,
and I have conversations with her, and I'm like, yo,
where did that come from?
Speaker 5 (19:47):
Like I you know, And so that's my intergenerational higher self.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Like she's dope, you know, Like she's out there like
always like guiding me and like helping me to to
connect to parts of me that the busy of day
to day life.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Don't allow me to connect you very readily.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
But when I can like connect with people that hold
me in love, when I connect with myself, when I
connect with silence, when I connect with the universal elements,
of life.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
When I sit and I I do this and ask
the people that are close to me. I sit and
I watch the moment, y'all, like I have Like I
was just in.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Carpenteria, I have like ten pictures of the moon from
like two days ago.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
When I sit with those moments, I'm.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Able to access the wiser parts of me. And I
want us to do that more, because that's how we're.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
Supposed to exist.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
We're not supposed to exist in this like ever evolving,
like never ending cycle of stimulation. We're supposed to be
in a headspace with ourselves and befriend ourselves. And so
when we can do that, we can have greater access
to that intergenerational wisdom that's there.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
And uh, still, I love Still. I love that.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
I love that still is out in the world, y'all.
Have I kept Still in like my back pocket for forever.
And my my team kept saying, can we.
Speaker 14 (21:23):
Make this graphic of void still?
Speaker 4 (21:24):
And I'm like, no, it can't go out into the
world because I couldn't get I couldn't put it out
because there's you know, there's contractual.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
Things that you can't do. But I'm like, it's out.
Speaker 14 (21:33):
People can do still.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
So I'm just really excited that it gets to be
in your hands because it's a tool that when I
tell you, people respond so well to this tool.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
And I use it all the time, and it's a
tool that is also a relationship building. It's supposed to
be to calm your nervous system and to really help
you gain a steady mind, but I think it's much
more than that because it also offers you an opportunity
to do.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
That so that you can come back into your relationships.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
With a common goal in mind that can be solution
focused and not relationships destroying.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
So STILL is an actual acronym. We love acronyms and psychology,
and I don't know why we do this, but STILL.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Stands for stop temperature inhale lay launch And basically, imagine.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
You're sitting at the family table and all of a
sudden somebody says something. They come out their base and.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Tell me, tell me more. So, obviously you know your
nervous system's gonna respond and it's gonna start preparing to
protect you.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
And what we do in that moment the best course
of action.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
And of course it takes practice, and I always tell
people practice when you don't need it, so that when
you do need it, you've already.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
Built mastery over the school. But you picture a stop sign.
The S is for stop, So you picture a stop
sign and you freeze in place.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Don't do anything else because whatever it's gonna come out
your mouth might destroy that relationship, might make things worse.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
You might feed the cycle. So you wanna kind of
just pause. The TEA is for temperature. And I know
that many of you have.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Probably been in, you know, down the rabbit hole of
like cold water stimulation and then water plunges and all
those things. They're actually really effective tools to use in
our day to day life.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Cold water plunges as an extreme version of it, right
you're not gonna go from the kitchen from the table,
But as an extreme version of it.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
It actually does help us to release endorphins that can
actually calm down our nervous system and calm down that
threat response and help us feel more at ease.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
And so a version of that that I would do
like in therapy, and this will work really great with you.
Like my kid clients loved it and it worked really
well with them.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Was we would actually have ice, but not because there
was a therapy offcause you would have just a little
freezer and like.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
The ice cubes that are like reusable, the ones that
are in plastic.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
But you can use ice. You can splash your face
with cold water. You can you know, just hold the ice,
put it somewhere on your face, like you want the
cold stimulation to actually start regenerating, like those endorphins that
you're gonna need to just like.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
Really cool off.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
And I always say, like it's kind of a version
of like pulling off your emotions, but like a really
tangible version of it.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
The eye's been inhale and it.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
You know, deep breathing has been very popularized, and I'm
really happy for that.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
But the thing about deep breathing that we're not saying
enough is that we need.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
At least five minutes of deep breaths in order for
our nervous systems.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
To catch up to the fact that we're trying to
help it relax. And so for five minutes take the moment.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Like that means that you might need to like exit
the table for a bit and take those deep breaths,
because your nervous system will then.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
Say, Okay, I'm in a better place. I am no
longer in that.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Threat response where I need to lunch at this person.
I'm in a place where the steadiness is in. And
the added benefit of that is that our our actual
like brain region, our cortical region that you know, we
in essence like need to be at its mean the
neuro's top science and your shadows better. But we do
need that area of our brain to actually be in
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its optimal functioning, to be solution oriented, to be able
to be like cognitively flexible and be creative. And if
that part of our brain is in essence like in
survival mode, we're not gonna have the opportunity to access
the genius that's there.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
So deep breathing, the first l is for lay, which
is just like go somewhere and just either lay.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Down or sit down, just exit whatever energy space you're
in and just go sit somewhere else and just taking
the energy there that's perhaps a little bit more calm
and doesn't have that tension in it, and then launches
to come back and re engage, come back into the circumstance.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
That you just exit it, but now with a steadier mind,
with a.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Steadier nervous system, and with an ability to be solution
focused that can actually forge a connection between yourself and
the other person rather.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
Than create a disruption that could, you know, be very detrimental.
I'm gonna thank you.
Speaker 18 (26:34):
For leading into your higher self, for the work that
you have done to heal, for embodying that, for breaking
the cycles, and for sharing your medicine with us. This
is a very important book that I really hope that
you all take with you, that you all heal with,
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that you all really make a practice, and that you
share as well.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
Because we do live by.
Speaker 14 (27:01):
When one grows, we all grow.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
When one heels, we all heal.
Speaker 18 (27:04):
And this is definitely what I am caring for all
of you here, and thank all of you for following
your own higher selves.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
To be here today, to making the choice to be
here for you.
Speaker 14 (27:15):
So thank you so much.
Speaker 18 (27:17):
Thank you so much, Money Books for having us, and
now please thank you the books.
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