May 2, 2024 • 31 mins
On this week's bonus episode Ophira chats with the hilarious Jake Johanssen about dropping his 19-year-old daughter off at college in Dublin, Ireland and his love of the Flowbee.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, it's Sofia at Eisenberg. Here back with a midweek
treat for you. I am super happy to connect with
this comic I love. I opened for him pre Pandemic
at Gotham Comedy Club and then we hung out drinking
with another pal till four am.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I do believe.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Also, he holds the record for the most comedy stand
up comedy performances on The Late Show with David Letterman,
and that number is forty six. My friends, he's on
tour all the time. He's a father, He's Jake Johansson.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Oh, what a nice introduction. I'm so glad that you
said you didn't really put a how long ago? That
mustaf it was just pre pandemic. Just yeah, it's pre pandemic. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I don't remember, actually, because I don't have a great
sense of time of what was pre pandemic. I keep Actually,
it feels like everything that happened before the pandemic was
either the year before or when I was a child.
There's like ur swans of time. I can't I can't
hook to a calendar anymore.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
That's one of the things about having a kid is
now you can sort of think of a memory and
then imagine how old you think your kid was at
that time. My daughter, she's nineteen, about to be twenty.
She was probably in her midst you know, between five
and eight.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I think between five and eighty exactly. That's what it
felt like. You had a teenager at home during a
quarantine time. Yes, still in high school.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Yeah, the pandemic hit when she was just finishing her
freshman yere of Okay, And she had also chosen to
go to this private high school that was a really
bad fit for her, So she was hating that the
whole year, and then they went virtual. We'd already put
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the wheels in place for her to switch to the
public high school, which you know, I was the parent
who was in favor of that from the beginning, right,
but I was overruled by the two ladies in my house.
So then she was virtual. Then most of her or
sophomore year until the end, so a whole year of
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bedroom high school, which was not right. And then the
summer between the year in the bedroom high school and
her junior year is when my wife got diagnosed with
the multiple myeloma.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
It was horrible. I'm sleeping in the camper in the yard. Yeah,
because my wife needed to be able to get up
and do whatever was read in the middle of the
night or whatever she wants to do to just deal
with all the stuff that's going on in her body.
So I would be on call in the camper, and
then she would call me if she needed me to
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make her something to eat her something, and then I
get my daughter ready to go to school. It was
really a tough transition back to school that her mom's sick,
our pandemic, with that extra other level on, it was
pretty pretty rough. And then my daughter has shared, or
our daughter has shared with me that she really didn't
feel like she got what she needed.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Don't mean to laugh, but it's like such a of
course a teenager would say this, but continue please.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yeah, Well she's grown up, you know, I mean, and
she's right. She deserves she You deserve your parents to
be one hundred percent there for you and and and
on call and drop everything. I mean, that's one of
the parenting things that I would give advice to other
parents is say, hey, if your kid wants to talk
to you, stop doing whatever you're doing and just go
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one hundred percent with them, because that decreases as they
get older, and then once they're natures, you definitely want
to stop. If they want to talk, you stop everything.
But I couldn't do that because I'm making scrambled eggs
and trying to sleep and taking my wife to doctor's
appointments and talk, coordinating with friends who were bringing food
over it. I mean it was full on. So so yeah,
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she gave us, she gave us some notes on parenting.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
For that, and they were they I mean, if you
were to send them up, they were like, you were
not here enough for me.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it would be. It would be like
if you're you're you're in the middle of some kind
of catastrophic hurricane iceberg shipwreck thing, and uh and someone's
complaining that your eye contact is not really great. You're
not you know. I was like, look, I'm trying to
just save us all. I'm trying to get us all
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fed and to bed and to and and I'm sorry
that I'm not I don't look great about while I'm
doing that. But yeah, that's what that was. She and
it was ballad feedback. And I'm sure she when she
gets a little older, she get her but yeah, she
was forced into a into a like sucking up buttercup situation.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
When she wanted yeah what, she felt vulnerable and she
needed Okay, So but like just to throw through this
conversation a little bit of different direction. I hear you,
and I hear you saying like, hey, you know, if
you're it is true. Like I have a very talkative
eight year old, and sometimes I have said to him,
so does my husband, like you just have to stop
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talking for a while, And I think that, how, oh
my god, I'm going to eat these words when he's fifteen, sixteen,
whatever and doesn't want to say ten words to us.
But you have toured your whole career as far as
I can gather as a stand up and I imagine
that there were a bunch of times during the course
of your daughter's life where you were working and could
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not be there for the conversations or the whatever. So
I'm just wondering, like, how do you that was just
part of the gig, But how did you manage that?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
I tried to be one hundred percent there when I
was there. And the other thing is you know that
going on the road, I would go to a comedy
club for a weekend gig, that's generally the scenario when
I would go on the road. I'd leave town on
a Wednesday, come home on a Sunday, and I would
only do that. I was always just trying to work
two weekends a month and have a couple off. So
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I was on the road usually twenty one gigs a year,
one hundred and twenty days a year. That's how much
I was out of town, which is significant, but they're
in little chunks like that. And then when I was here,
I could get up in the morning, get her ready
for school, take her to school, be there when she
comes home. So I was present as much as possible.
But yeah, there were moments where there was a lot
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of times where my wife had to be the primary person.
And then with a daughter too. I have a great
relationship with my daughter, but there's all the lady stuff
that pretty quickly I'm not the first choice of.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
She wasn't going to teach that.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah, it's pretty awesome in the sense that she'll tell
me stuff sometimes where I'm like, wow, you really, that's
nice that you would share that with me.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I didn't expect that, and you know, to that, and
as a comic, I mean, I feel like I've seen
the worst of humanity, and by that I mean audiences
like around the country, because you see people some are
having a good time, but others aren't drunk and in
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various versions of not their greatest self, especially may I
just say the men. And as you were raising a
daughter and you're seeing, like you have front lines to
some what the world is like out there. Were you
very protective of your daughter or she became a teenager
or a young adult.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Well, I wasn't super worried about her being able to
take care of herself, because you know, when she was
a baby, we went to these rye classes. I don't
know if you remember that from or if you were exposed.
It would like leave your baby alone and let them
discover scarves and simple toys and not no wind up screen,
none of that stuff. And so our daughters like can
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she's not She's a baby, She's just crawling and then
getting into situations with other babies, you know. And my
wife came home crying because she thought that our daughter
was too meek and was getting taken advantage of by
these other babies, and that maybe maybe it meant that
she was going to grow up and not be assertive,
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and my wife was like crying. My wife was really
upset that this was a potential reality for our baby daughter.
And I was like, well, you know, let's just see
how it goes. And then there definitely been times during
those tween and teen years where I had to go, hey,
this is the person that you thought was not going
to be assertive. This kid is so self aware. It
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could be because of the school she went to, but
she's very diplomatic and forceful in solving her problem. She
went through some interpersonal bullying stuff when she was really little,
so she figured out some skills. But yeah, I would
say this, are we allowed to curse on the show? Yeah,
I would say that this is true. I mean the
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lesson that cancer I feel like reinforced with me my
wife's cancer. The advice i'd give you about my wife
is do not fuck with her, and I would give
you that same advice about my daughter. So I didn't
really I don't really worry about her, and you know,
the dark side of humanity because also I feel like
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I taught her. I mean I would tease her and
give her a hard time, like when she was little
and she would ask how old I was I would
told her I was like thirteen years old, and because
she didn't know, she didn't know, she'd goes, mom's, mom's
forty and you're fifteen now. Yeah, So she was kind
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of used somebody giving her a hard time and teasing her.
And so her sense of humor is pretty awesome now.
Like she'll she'll say some stuff where it's it's not stabby,
but you know what I mean, it's sarcastic.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
She she's got to reaction.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
It's pretty funny. And I feel like I learned that.
I learned that still not just at stand up, but
I went from working in restaurants, and I've said this
to my daughter as a as a father daughter lesson,
like if someone says something super mean to you, the
best thing you can do is laugh and pretend it
was a joke. And then usually the other person will
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go along with that because they don't want to correct
you and say no, no, no, that wasn't a joke.
I'm a dick. So she's pretty our daughter. I don't
worry about her in the world. I didn't worry about
her getting taken advantage of or bullied or we gave
her this Irish name Fanula, and she decided and then
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she grew up and when it was time to pick colleges,
she's she's starting. Long story short, she's going to Trinity
College in Dublin, Ireland. And yes, and so we dropped
her off there in the fall, and you know, we
flew over and we're going to be there for a
couple of weeks, just to help her get oriented because
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then we're going back to America and you're going to
be in Ireland and it's going to be intense. So
we get there. We took her to the Ikea to
buy you know, this is the other thing. They don't
have a meal plan. She's in student housing, but they
share a kitchen and it's make your own food, buy
groceries and make your own own. Yeah, so she's had
to figure out. So we take her to Ikea. The
morning after we get there, we're sort of jet lagged.
(11:37):
We go to breakfast, We go to Ikea in a
taxi and get all the stuff she needs in a
taxi back to her hotel that it may put the
mattress top or on her bed. My wife helps they,
you know, get the bathroom, sort of sort it out.
It's two in the afternoon the day after we get there.
We're going to be there for basically another three weeks.
And our daughter goes, Okay, fuck off, you guys can
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leave now.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
You bought me on my shit. Goodbye.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
I want to be an island. Then, so we're in
town and then there's other banking sort of things that
have to happen. So I've got to meet her to
give her this cat it's like a thousand euros. I
got to give her this cash, but she's going to
put in the bank to get her student visa after
we leave. So I got this envelope with this cash
because I've been taking it out of the bank and
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she doesn't want to come and meet me. I got
to go to her dorm, which is about a mile
and a half walk from where I am. So it's
not terrible because I walk over there and she's at
the picnic table in the courtyard with some friends, and
she goes, just give me the envelope. And then I'm
with my people and I go, no, this isn't a
drug deal. We're going to go in your apartment. We're
going to talk for a minute. But that's great. But
(12:50):
I think the great thing is She is very independent,
and I feel like I've always had the attitude with
her is like we're not going to try. And of course,
if it's a dangerous situation and I just got to
say you need to shut up and get in the car,
I'm going to do that. But most of the time
it's like I'm going to explain to you why this
is what I want you to do. And there's not
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a giant choice, but we can keep talking about it,
and I'll be if there's a way to give you options,
I will do that. But I was always about this
is the reason why we're doing this, why we have
to do this. And even with Tat she wanted, she
was so wanting to get a tattoo, and I kept saying, like, listen,
(13:35):
I'm not going to tell you you can't get a tattoo,
because you're right, you're eighteen. You can get your own
money whatever you want. But I will tell you that
the difference between what I liked when I was eighteen
and what I liked when I was twenty eight are
pretty those are pretty different. So really think about your
tattoo before you go and get it. So we've been
able to I don't think she's gotten the tattoo yet.
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But you know, you don't always know.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Now with a kid, you don't always know.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
I mean, look, we wouldn't have even gotten into this
job if we just didn't want someone to listen to us.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Your kid. Oh no, that's the one thing I've learned immediately.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
It's not going to be your spouse either. I mean, story,
I'd have this. Do you ever have this experience where
you come home from your trip where you've gone somewhere
different than where they are, and they've just been in
your house doing the things they always do. But when
I come home, they go first. They're gonna tell me
(14:40):
all the things they did, what happened at the grocery store,
and what Skyler said to you know, uh Caitlin or yeah,
I got to hear all of that, and then maybe
I get to tell my story.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Maybe I know, No, I get the So, what's one
thing that was that you enjoyed when you were in Texas?
I'm like, uh, the show went well, okay, okay, we're done.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Oh boy, they need a little work on their interview skills.
Interview skills, these partners of ours.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Now compared to like your childhood, you grew up in Iowa,
and I don't.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Know, is that right? Born in Iowa and then we okay,
most of my child was right across the border in Lacrosse, Wisconsin.
And then for a little for five years we lived
in Tennessee. But but midwest, right that Iowa, Wisconsin.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Okay. So do you look back at your own childhood
as like free and unsupervised and dangerous just running through fields.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
There was a lot of that. There was a lot
of yeah, but and there we was. There was a
lot of that. Where I would be it was like, hey,
you need to be home when it gets dark because
that's what we're going to eat. So come home when
it gets dark at six o'clock. You know, maybe I
had to watch. We didn't have phones or watches. Maybe
I had a watch, or maybe it was just like,
it's getting dark, I need to go home. But I
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came home one time, and when we lived in Tennessee,
so that was from when I was ten to fifteen
years old, so I must have been thirteen fourteen, and
I came home and I had you know, we're out
swimming in creeks and you know, mud catching staffing turtles.
We're just doing stupid, dangerous things the kids do. And
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I come home one time and I said, man, I
hurt my ankle. I was. I was kind of limping
home and I had a stick with a crook in
it that I was using as a crutch, and I
thought my mom just thought it looked funny. And then
I was playing up or it was a joke, and
so I come in the house and she goes, oh,
it's oh, you hear your ankle. So we had dinner,
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we sat, we watched TV, and then it swelled up
giant and then finally she took me to the emergency
room and it was a hairline fracture or whatever it was.
So I had some very less a fair parenting. And
then my dad, who just passed away. That's a whole
nother that's the other side of the parenting when your parent. Anyway,
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my dad was My dad was a Here's how I
described my childhood as far as my father was concerned.
We had two options. We could be happy or we
could be quiet. Those were those were your two choices.
You know, it's great for you to be happy, but
if you're sad, you know, crying, don't. I'll give you
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something to cry about. Stop crying. I'll give you something
to cry about. That. That's the greatest hit from my
childhood a little bit. Not that they were abusive of
my parents, but they were just not They weren't the same.
And my father did say to me, you know, I'm
jealous of you and how much time you've spent with Fnula,
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your daughter, because I didn't even think that was an
option for me. He had a career a corporate executive,
and so he was you know, he'd leave the house
at six point thirty in the morning, not come home
sometimes until six thirty or eight o'clock at night, and so.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
He wasn't oh wow, yeah, he was classic like that.
Classic went around a.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Lot in that sense, and yet it was always like
something would happen while he was not there, and then
it would be like when he gets home, something's going
to happen. You know, wait till your father gets home.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Threat, wait wait till your dad gets out.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Of like, oh my god. I mean I described to
my sister, most of my childhood was like this is
an over dramatization, but it was sort of like being
in a in a kind of a dangerous prison situation
where you couldn't trust the guards or the other inmates,
you know, and so you just keep quiet and get
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through it until you finally get released. But just kind
of just suppress everything, bottle it up, don't have too
many opinions, do your best, you know. I was a
valedictorian in my high school and just just get through
the prison time. And my sister, My sister went a
little more cool hand luke, Like she opposed my dad
and spoke truth to power and it did that was
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not it didn't It wasn't good. She's tough, but I
wouldn't recommend her approach.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
I mean, these dynamics in my family are very similar.
I'm the youngest, so I sort of and my dad
died when I was thirteen. So but before that, he
same kind of hours and he he was the scary one,
like he was the person that was going to lay
down the law. Like they were authoritarian figures that provided
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for us.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Yeah, most of my parents' friends now are dead, but
when I would run into them throughout my career. You know,
That's one of the great things about our job, right
is we're traveling around the country. Yeah, and so they
advertised that you were in town in the paper and
people who want to you coming. People show up, and so.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I would see to see what you've become.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
I would see their like parents who I knew from
when I was a kid, and it was so hard
to call them by their first names. I just felt
like I couldn't like mister or missus whatever, that's what
I had to call them. And now our daughter's friends
call us by our first name. And oh yeah, I
mean I feel like we're we're lucky, my wife and
(20:21):
I And I'm sure you have this with your kids too,
where I feel like she enjoys our company. Of course,
she's already said I'm coming home for the summer this
summer from college, but next year I'm going to get
a job at Dublin.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Ooh nice, I love it.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Is she, by the way, does she want to do
anything artistic or is she doing a different path?
Speaker 3 (20:45):
She's kind of similar. So, like I said, I was
valedictorian in my high school class, and I was really
great at math and science, and I thought I was
wanted to be a veterinarian, and then I wanted to
be a chemical engineer, and then I switched to journalism,
and then I dropped out to become a comedian. So
I made that journal journey from the math science brain
to the creative brain.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
And I yeah, I feel like you started the highest
salary and just kept going lower and lower and lower.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Yeah, we worked out. It worked out in the end.
I mean, look, if you want me to parents and
other comedians, all I would say is save your money.
This is the classic show business mistake. Don't make the
mistake where you think, because you're having a great year,
now you're going to have that same year forever. Save
your money. So things worked out, okay, as far as
far as that goes. But so my daughter was very
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good in math and science and high school. She took
calculus and advanced calculus and physics and chemistry and all
that stuff. But then when you go to college, these
European colleges, you have to apply in a major. And
so her major is Duel Honors in history and literature.
So she's studying amazing things and writing papers and being creative,
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and you know, we're trying. I don't worry. When I
went to college, somebody who has taken that major would
be like, good luck in your history store career. Yeah,
but nowadays I feel like those those two areas are
going to give you a perspective on the world and
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your fellow human beings, and an ability to understand and
express what you think should happen next. And I feel
like those are the skills that are going to be
in demand. All of that science and engineering stuff. That's
pretty quickly the AI is just going to tell you
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the answer and you're not going.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
To But Jake, I was just you know, doing a
little extra research on you. This is no way this
is true. Do you still cut your hair with a
nineteen nineties flow bee? Yes?
Speaker 3 (22:54):
I do, in fact, this hair this haircut. No, yeah,
I just did this. I touched it up yesterday.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Do you ever cut your kid's hair with the flow?
Speaker 3 (23:02):
No? She quickly. She always had a pretty strong fashion sense.
And then her mother is also very stylish. I have
my wife has let me trim bits of her hair,
and I've assisted on some coloring projects. But yeah, they
both they're not let me do haircuts. That's great.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
So I'm often talking, you know about how stand up
comedy hours in particular do not mix well with parenting.
But you know, with some reflections, since you know you
have a fully grown person now as your child. Have
you noticed anything that maybe in a way that your
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stand up career actually helped you as a parent.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Oh, yes, yes, I mean I'm always I don't know
if this is a male female thing, but I was
always trying to explain to my wife or not explained
to her. Not I don't want to make it sound
like I'm some kind of expert and she's not. But
it's very been a situation with another person, like a
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child or another adult, and they are having a strong
emotional response, they're angry with you or or whatever. It's
probably it's a problem. It's very difficult to not match
what they're doing. You know, if they're yelling at you,
it's hard not to then yell back at them. And
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if they feel like if you're into this dialogue about
like you're unfair, know what uring is unfair? It's to
just keep getting oppositional. And I would always say, you know,
this kid just wants to feel like she's got some control,
because she doesn't have any control. She lives in our house.
We buy all the food, you know, technically we can
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make her wear whatever clothes and be home and all this.
She wants to be in control. She wants to feel
like she's in control and so and she's freaking out.
If you're ever in a situation with an eight year
old or a thirteen year old where you're you're right
and they should really be apologizing and being the bigger person,
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dream on, that's never going to happen if you've got
to be the person who chills out and takes it
down a notch and deals with it. And so my
approach from stand up if people are heckling, my thing
is always just give them attention, Like I'm not going
to stop the show for every every dominas or somebody
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yells something, I'm going to talk to them. Sometimes what
they said was kind of funny. We all have a
laugh and they feel what it's like to have the attention,
and then they realize they don't. They don't have any material,
and they let you go back and do your.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Show and so exactly, they're like, well.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
So mine is ready with my daughter. Like if I'm
trying not to get emotionally engaged, right, the worst thing
it can happen if you're on stage and somebody starts
heckling you is you get angry with them. Like if
you're really angry at someone in the audience. Yes, you're
going to lose the rest of the audience. You know,
you let them have their stupid emotions. You don't say
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that children, but you have your emotions. And this is
what I'm doing. And then sometimes and then as my
daughter has gotten older, like and her sense of humor
got better, and I would always like, you know that
thing you can do when when everybody's when people are
kind of saying mean stuff, and you can say something
mean back. But it's like a joke or a disarming
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you know, I feel like I could get my daughter.
Sometimes she would just start laughing at how ridiculous her
anger was starting to seem. She would start we would
both start laughing. Sometimes that's amazing, or I mean, bottom line,
sometimes I would just say some version of of like,
I've been dealing with drunk grown ups for decades, And
(27:08):
are you sure that you want to get into a
contest who can say the meanest thing to the other
person with me? Is that what you think you want
to do?
Speaker 1 (27:24):
That is the best threat from a professional stand up
comic to a child.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Ever, you really want to go up because this because
I don't know if you've done an eleven thirty five
spot at the you know, Vegas Funny Bone or.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
What I thought her one time said to me, Oh,
I you know, she's she's nineteen going on. I'm thirty
years old now, so it's so her language. She's she
didn't really swear very much, and then when she started
to swear, my only thing was just be careful about
who you're swearing in front of because people can judge
you based on that. But so we let her. She
says whatever she says. Oh, I see what you do, dad,
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because I'll say I love to say the most inappropriate
thing or do the ethnic accent that you're not supposed
to do when we're at the dinner. Oh, I see
what you do Dad. You just think of the most
fucked up thing to say, and then you say it,
and I go it kind of it's a safe we're
(28:23):
just laughing.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Yeah, yeah, you're like, but I've honed it.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
I've honed it in general. That's right, that's what you're
trying to do. That's I encourage you to also do that.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
That's awesome. Oh my goodness, thank you, thank you so
much for talking to me. I hope I am half
as good as a parent that.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
You I love the way you're empowering my child.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yes, oh yeah, right, exactly as you were telling me here.
I'm sure the results are a parent. But also I
kind of want to do Brazilian jiu jitsu, and I
know there's a place in my neighborhood. I'm going to
drop back.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Yeah, if it's the Hens, there's a couple of great
ones in New York. But Henzo Gracie's place spelled Ari
and Neo, and also Marcelo Garcia, Marcelo Marcello Garcia his place.
Those are the two famous e Brazilian guys there. But
you should definitely go check it out that they'll let you.
Usually you can take a few classes and they'll give
(29:22):
you a loaner. Gee is the pajama kind of suit
that you wear. They'll give you a loaner one of those.
But it's it's a great workout and I really encourage
you to do it. It's empowering. Here's the other thing about it.
It's one hundred percent physical and mental engagement for the
whole time. So you go into class, you warm up,
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and then they teach you a technique and you get
paired with a partner and you practice back and forth
on the technique with each other, and then at the
end of the class, usually you have a few rounds
where you just spar and wrestle around with someone for
five minutes and they're going to break it in five minutes.
And during that class you're a one hundred percent mentally
and physically engaged. So it's like it's a flow experience
(30:06):
that you're having, and no matter what's happening in your life,
Like when my wife was sick with cancer and my
daughter was home from school on depression, I could leave
the house for an hour and a half and just
have this vacation for that period.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Of time, total escape.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Right, So please, you should do it. Anybody listening who
is interested in this should try it. Yeah, it's great,
I love it.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
I love it. Hey, you can go see Jake live everybody.
You tour all the time. But you're coming kind of
close to me right now. You're going to be at
the beautiful Ardent Guildhall in Arden, Delaware on May eleventh,
one day before Mother's Day. I hope you get back,
and I know.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
One day before and prior to that, the ninth, I'm
going to be in Arlington, Virginia, and the tenth I'm
going to be in Manassas, Virginia.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Oh, Virginia, Virginia, Delaware.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Yeah, fantastic.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
So go to jakethi dot com. Everybody do that.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Jake this dot com. You can link to things, you
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Speaker 1 (31:13):
Just I'm pointing below. There's nothing below. It's a podcast,
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Speaker 3 (31:19):
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Go through your life and subscribe.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Subscribe, Yeah, don't be afraid.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Subscribe,
Hey, it's Sofia at Eisenberg. Here back with a midweek
treat for you. I am super happy to connect with
this comic I love. I opened for him pre Pandemic
at Gotham Comedy Club and then we hung out drinking
with another pal till four am.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I do believe.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Also, he holds the record for the most comedy stand
up comedy performances on The Late Show with David Letterman,
and that number is forty six. My friends, he's on
tour all the time. He's a father, He's Jake Johansson.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Oh, what a nice introduction. I'm so glad that you
said you didn't really put a how long ago? That
mustaf it was just pre pandemic. Just yeah, it's pre pandemic. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I don't remember, actually, because I don't have a great
sense of time of what was pre pandemic. I keep Actually,
it feels like everything that happened before the pandemic was
either the year before or when I was a child.
There's like ur swans of time. I can't I can't
hook to a calendar anymore.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
That's one of the things about having a kid is
now you can sort of think of a memory and
then imagine how old you think your kid was at
that time. My daughter, she's nineteen, about to be twenty.
She was probably in her midst you know, between five
and eight.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I think between five and eighty exactly. That's what it
felt like. You had a teenager at home during a
quarantine time. Yes, still in high school.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Yeah, the pandemic hit when she was just finishing her
freshman yere of Okay, And she had also chosen to
go to this private high school that was a really
bad fit for her, So she was hating that the
whole year, and then they went virtual. We'd already put
(01:49):
the wheels in place for her to switch to the
public high school, which you know, I was the parent
who was in favor of that from the beginning, right,
but I was overruled by the two ladies in my house.
So then she was virtual. Then most of her or
sophomore year until the end, so a whole year of
(02:12):
bedroom high school, which was not right. And then the
summer between the year in the bedroom high school and
her junior year is when my wife got diagnosed with
the multiple myeloma.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
It was horrible. I'm sleeping in the camper in the yard. Yeah,
because my wife needed to be able to get up
and do whatever was read in the middle of the
night or whatever she wants to do to just deal
with all the stuff that's going on in her body.
So I would be on call in the camper, and
then she would call me if she needed me to
(02:48):
make her something to eat her something, and then I
get my daughter ready to go to school. It was
really a tough transition back to school that her mom's sick,
our pandemic, with that extra other level on, it was
pretty pretty rough. And then my daughter has shared, or
our daughter has shared with me that she really didn't
feel like she got what she needed.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Don't mean to laugh, but it's like such a of
course a teenager would say this, but continue please.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yeah, Well she's grown up, you know, I mean, and
she's right. She deserves she You deserve your parents to
be one hundred percent there for you and and and
on call and drop everything. I mean, that's one of
the parenting things that I would give advice to other
parents is say, hey, if your kid wants to talk
to you, stop doing whatever you're doing and just go
(03:39):
one hundred percent with them, because that decreases as they
get older, and then once they're natures, you definitely want
to stop. If they want to talk, you stop everything.
But I couldn't do that because I'm making scrambled eggs
and trying to sleep and taking my wife to doctor's
appointments and talk, coordinating with friends who were bringing food
over it. I mean it was full on. So so yeah,
(04:03):
she gave us, she gave us some notes on parenting.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
For that, and they were they I mean, if you
were to send them up, they were like, you were
not here enough for me.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it would be. It would be like
if you're you're you're in the middle of some kind
of catastrophic hurricane iceberg shipwreck thing, and uh and someone's
complaining that your eye contact is not really great. You're
not you know. I was like, look, I'm trying to
just save us all. I'm trying to get us all
(04:35):
fed and to bed and to and and I'm sorry
that I'm not I don't look great about while I'm
doing that. But yeah, that's what that was. She and
it was ballad feedback. And I'm sure she when she
gets a little older, she get her but yeah, she
was forced into a into a like sucking up buttercup situation.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
When she wanted yeah what, she felt vulnerable and she
needed Okay, So but like just to throw through this
conversation a little bit of different direction. I hear you,
and I hear you saying like, hey, you know, if
you're it is true. Like I have a very talkative
eight year old, and sometimes I have said to him,
so does my husband, like you just have to stop
(05:14):
talking for a while, And I think that, how, oh
my god, I'm going to eat these words when he's fifteen, sixteen,
whatever and doesn't want to say ten words to us.
But you have toured your whole career as far as
I can gather as a stand up and I imagine
that there were a bunch of times during the course
of your daughter's life where you were working and could
(05:38):
not be there for the conversations or the whatever. So
I'm just wondering, like, how do you that was just
part of the gig, But how did you manage that?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
I tried to be one hundred percent there when I
was there. And the other thing is you know that
going on the road, I would go to a comedy
club for a weekend gig, that's generally the scenario when
I would go on the road. I'd leave town on
a Wednesday, come home on a Sunday, and I would
only do that. I was always just trying to work
two weekends a month and have a couple off. So
(06:10):
I was on the road usually twenty one gigs a year,
one hundred and twenty days a year. That's how much
I was out of town, which is significant, but they're
in little chunks like that. And then when I was here,
I could get up in the morning, get her ready
for school, take her to school, be there when she
comes home. So I was present as much as possible.
But yeah, there were moments where there was a lot
(06:32):
of times where my wife had to be the primary person.
And then with a daughter too. I have a great
relationship with my daughter, but there's all the lady stuff
that pretty quickly I'm not the first choice of.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
She wasn't going to teach that.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah, it's pretty awesome in the sense that she'll tell
me stuff sometimes where I'm like, wow, you really, that's
nice that you would share that with me.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I didn't expect that, and you know, to that, and
as a comic, I mean, I feel like I've seen
the worst of humanity, and by that I mean audiences
like around the country, because you see people some are
having a good time, but others aren't drunk and in
(07:18):
various versions of not their greatest self, especially may I
just say the men. And as you were raising a
daughter and you're seeing, like you have front lines to
some what the world is like out there. Were you
very protective of your daughter or she became a teenager
or a young adult.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Well, I wasn't super worried about her being able to
take care of herself, because you know, when she was
a baby, we went to these rye classes. I don't
know if you remember that from or if you were exposed.
It would like leave your baby alone and let them
discover scarves and simple toys and not no wind up screen,
none of that stuff. And so our daughters like can
(08:03):
she's not She's a baby, She's just crawling and then
getting into situations with other babies, you know. And my
wife came home crying because she thought that our daughter
was too meek and was getting taken advantage of by
these other babies, and that maybe maybe it meant that
she was going to grow up and not be assertive,
(08:27):
and my wife was like crying. My wife was really
upset that this was a potential reality for our baby daughter.
And I was like, well, you know, let's just see
how it goes. And then there definitely been times during
those tween and teen years where I had to go, hey,
this is the person that you thought was not going
to be assertive. This kid is so self aware. It
(08:52):
could be because of the school she went to, but
she's very diplomatic and forceful in solving her problem. She
went through some interpersonal bullying stuff when she was really little,
so she figured out some skills. But yeah, I would
say this, are we allowed to curse on the show? Yeah,
I would say that this is true. I mean the
(09:14):
lesson that cancer I feel like reinforced with me my
wife's cancer. The advice i'd give you about my wife
is do not fuck with her, and I would give
you that same advice about my daughter. So I didn't
really I don't really worry about her, and you know,
the dark side of humanity because also I feel like
(09:35):
I taught her. I mean I would tease her and
give her a hard time, like when she was little
and she would ask how old I was I would
told her I was like thirteen years old, and because
she didn't know, she didn't know, she'd goes, mom's, mom's
forty and you're fifteen now. Yeah, So she was kind
(09:59):
of used somebody giving her a hard time and teasing her.
And so her sense of humor is pretty awesome now.
Like she'll she'll say some stuff where it's it's not stabby,
but you know what I mean, it's sarcastic.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
She she's got to reaction.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
It's pretty funny. And I feel like I learned that.
I learned that still not just at stand up, but
I went from working in restaurants, and I've said this
to my daughter as a as a father daughter lesson,
like if someone says something super mean to you, the
best thing you can do is laugh and pretend it
was a joke. And then usually the other person will
(10:35):
go along with that because they don't want to correct
you and say no, no, no, that wasn't a joke.
I'm a dick. So she's pretty our daughter. I don't
worry about her in the world. I didn't worry about
her getting taken advantage of or bullied or we gave
her this Irish name Fanula, and she decided and then
(10:57):
she grew up and when it was time to pick colleges,
she's she's starting. Long story short, she's going to Trinity
College in Dublin, Ireland. And yes, and so we dropped
her off there in the fall, and you know, we
flew over and we're going to be there for a
couple of weeks, just to help her get oriented because
(11:17):
then we're going back to America and you're going to
be in Ireland and it's going to be intense. So
we get there. We took her to the Ikea to
buy you know, this is the other thing. They don't
have a meal plan. She's in student housing, but they
share a kitchen and it's make your own food, buy
groceries and make your own own. Yeah, so she's had
to figure out. So we take her to Ikea. The
morning after we get there, we're sort of jet lagged.
(11:37):
We go to breakfast, We go to Ikea in a
taxi and get all the stuff she needs in a
taxi back to her hotel that it may put the
mattress top or on her bed. My wife helps they,
you know, get the bathroom, sort of sort it out.
It's two in the afternoon the day after we get there.
We're going to be there for basically another three weeks.
And our daughter goes, Okay, fuck off, you guys can
(12:00):
leave now.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
You bought me on my shit. Goodbye.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
I want to be an island. Then, so we're in
town and then there's other banking sort of things that
have to happen. So I've got to meet her to
give her this cat it's like a thousand euros. I
got to give her this cash, but she's going to
put in the bank to get her student visa after
we leave. So I got this envelope with this cash
because I've been taking it out of the bank and
(12:27):
she doesn't want to come and meet me. I got
to go to her dorm, which is about a mile
and a half walk from where I am. So it's
not terrible because I walk over there and she's at
the picnic table in the courtyard with some friends, and
she goes, just give me the envelope. And then I'm
with my people and I go, no, this isn't a
drug deal. We're going to go in your apartment. We're
going to talk for a minute. But that's great. But
(12:50):
I think the great thing is She is very independent,
and I feel like I've always had the attitude with
her is like we're not going to try. And of course,
if it's a dangerous situation and I just got to
say you need to shut up and get in the car,
I'm going to do that. But most of the time
it's like I'm going to explain to you why this
is what I want you to do. And there's not
(13:12):
a giant choice, but we can keep talking about it,
and I'll be if there's a way to give you options,
I will do that. But I was always about this
is the reason why we're doing this, why we have
to do this. And even with Tat she wanted, she
was so wanting to get a tattoo, and I kept saying, like, listen,
(13:35):
I'm not going to tell you you can't get a tattoo,
because you're right, you're eighteen. You can get your own
money whatever you want. But I will tell you that
the difference between what I liked when I was eighteen
and what I liked when I was twenty eight are
pretty those are pretty different. So really think about your
tattoo before you go and get it. So we've been
able to I don't think she's gotten the tattoo yet.
(13:59):
But you know, you don't always know.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Now with a kid, you don't always know.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
I mean, look, we wouldn't have even gotten into this
job if we just didn't want someone to listen to us.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Your kid. Oh no, that's the one thing I've learned immediately.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
It's not going to be your spouse either. I mean, story,
I'd have this. Do you ever have this experience where
you come home from your trip where you've gone somewhere
different than where they are, and they've just been in
your house doing the things they always do. But when
I come home, they go first. They're gonna tell me
(14:40):
all the things they did, what happened at the grocery store,
and what Skyler said to you know, uh Caitlin or yeah,
I got to hear all of that, and then maybe
I get to tell my story.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Maybe I know, No, I get the So, what's one
thing that was that you enjoyed when you were in Texas?
I'm like, uh, the show went well, okay, okay, we're done.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Oh boy, they need a little work on their interview skills.
Interview skills, these partners of ours.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Now compared to like your childhood, you grew up in Iowa,
and I don't.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Know, is that right? Born in Iowa and then we okay,
most of my child was right across the border in Lacrosse, Wisconsin.
And then for a little for five years we lived
in Tennessee. But but midwest, right that Iowa, Wisconsin.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Okay. So do you look back at your own childhood
as like free and unsupervised and dangerous just running through fields.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
There was a lot of that. There was a lot
of yeah, but and there we was. There was a
lot of that. Where I would be it was like, hey,
you need to be home when it gets dark because
that's what we're going to eat. So come home when
it gets dark at six o'clock. You know, maybe I
had to watch. We didn't have phones or watches. Maybe
I had a watch, or maybe it was just like,
it's getting dark, I need to go home. But I
(15:58):
came home one time, and when we lived in Tennessee,
so that was from when I was ten to fifteen
years old, so I must have been thirteen fourteen, and
I came home and I had you know, we're out
swimming in creeks and you know, mud catching staffing turtles.
We're just doing stupid, dangerous things the kids do. And
(16:20):
I come home one time and I said, man, I
hurt my ankle. I was. I was kind of limping
home and I had a stick with a crook in
it that I was using as a crutch, and I
thought my mom just thought it looked funny. And then
I was playing up or it was a joke, and
so I come in the house and she goes, oh,
it's oh, you hear your ankle. So we had dinner,
(16:42):
we sat, we watched TV, and then it swelled up
giant and then finally she took me to the emergency
room and it was a hairline fracture or whatever it was.
So I had some very less a fair parenting. And
then my dad, who just passed away. That's a whole
nother that's the other side of the parenting when your parent. Anyway,
(17:04):
my dad was My dad was a Here's how I
described my childhood as far as my father was concerned.
We had two options. We could be happy or we
could be quiet. Those were those were your two choices.
You know, it's great for you to be happy, but
if you're sad, you know, crying, don't. I'll give you
(17:27):
something to cry about. Stop crying. I'll give you something
to cry about. That. That's the greatest hit from my
childhood a little bit. Not that they were abusive of
my parents, but they were just not They weren't the same.
And my father did say to me, you know, I'm
jealous of you and how much time you've spent with Fnula,
(17:47):
your daughter, because I didn't even think that was an
option for me. He had a career a corporate executive,
and so he was you know, he'd leave the house
at six point thirty in the morning, not come home
sometimes until six thirty or eight o'clock at night, and so.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
He wasn't oh wow, yeah, he was classic like that.
Classic went around a.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Lot in that sense, and yet it was always like
something would happen while he was not there, and then
it would be like when he gets home, something's going
to happen. You know, wait till your father gets home.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Threat, wait wait till your dad gets out.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Of like, oh my god. I mean I described to
my sister, most of my childhood was like this is
an over dramatization, but it was sort of like being
in a in a kind of a dangerous prison situation
where you couldn't trust the guards or the other inmates,
you know, and so you just keep quiet and get
(18:48):
through it until you finally get released. But just kind
of just suppress everything, bottle it up, don't have too
many opinions, do your best, you know. I was a
valedictorian in my high school and just just get through
the prison time. And my sister, My sister went a
little more cool hand luke, Like she opposed my dad
and spoke truth to power and it did that was
(19:11):
not it didn't It wasn't good. She's tough, but I
wouldn't recommend her approach.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
I mean, these dynamics in my family are very similar.
I'm the youngest, so I sort of and my dad
died when I was thirteen. So but before that, he
same kind of hours and he he was the scary one,
like he was the person that was going to lay
down the law. Like they were authoritarian figures that provided
(19:38):
for us.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Yeah, most of my parents' friends now are dead, but
when I would run into them throughout my career. You know,
That's one of the great things about our job, right
is we're traveling around the country. Yeah, and so they
advertised that you were in town in the paper and
people who want to you coming. People show up, and so.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I would see to see what you've become.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
I would see their like parents who I knew from
when I was a kid, and it was so hard
to call them by their first names. I just felt
like I couldn't like mister or missus whatever, that's what
I had to call them. And now our daughter's friends
call us by our first name. And oh yeah, I
mean I feel like we're we're lucky, my wife and
(20:21):
I And I'm sure you have this with your kids too,
where I feel like she enjoys our company. Of course,
she's already said I'm coming home for the summer this
summer from college, but next year I'm going to get
a job at Dublin.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Ooh nice, I love it.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Is she, by the way, does she want to do
anything artistic or is she doing a different path?
Speaker 3 (20:45):
She's kind of similar. So, like I said, I was
valedictorian in my high school class, and I was really
great at math and science, and I thought I was
wanted to be a veterinarian, and then I wanted to
be a chemical engineer, and then I switched to journalism,
and then I dropped out to become a comedian. So
I made that journal journey from the math science brain
to the creative brain.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
And I yeah, I feel like you started the highest
salary and just kept going lower and lower and lower.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Yeah, we worked out. It worked out in the end.
I mean, look, if you want me to parents and
other comedians, all I would say is save your money.
This is the classic show business mistake. Don't make the
mistake where you think, because you're having a great year,
now you're going to have that same year forever. Save
your money. So things worked out, okay, as far as
far as that goes. But so my daughter was very
(21:34):
good in math and science and high school. She took
calculus and advanced calculus and physics and chemistry and all
that stuff. But then when you go to college, these
European colleges, you have to apply in a major. And
so her major is Duel Honors in history and literature.
So she's studying amazing things and writing papers and being creative,
(21:59):
and you know, we're trying. I don't worry. When I
went to college, somebody who has taken that major would
be like, good luck in your history store career. Yeah,
but nowadays I feel like those those two areas are
going to give you a perspective on the world and
(22:21):
your fellow human beings, and an ability to understand and
express what you think should happen next. And I feel
like those are the skills that are going to be
in demand. All of that science and engineering stuff. That's
pretty quickly the AI is just going to tell you
(22:41):
the answer and you're not going.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
To But Jake, I was just you know, doing a
little extra research on you. This is no way this
is true. Do you still cut your hair with a
nineteen nineties flow bee? Yes?
Speaker 3 (22:54):
I do, in fact, this hair this haircut. No, yeah,
I just did this. I touched it up yesterday.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Do you ever cut your kid's hair with the flow?
Speaker 3 (23:02):
No? She quickly. She always had a pretty strong fashion sense.
And then her mother is also very stylish. I have
my wife has let me trim bits of her hair,
and I've assisted on some coloring projects. But yeah, they
both they're not let me do haircuts. That's great.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
So I'm often talking, you know about how stand up
comedy hours in particular do not mix well with parenting.
But you know, with some reflections, since you know you
have a fully grown person now as your child. Have
you noticed anything that maybe in a way that your
(23:46):
stand up career actually helped you as a parent.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Oh, yes, yes, I mean I'm always I don't know
if this is a male female thing, but I was
always trying to explain to my wife or not explained
to her. Not I don't want to make it sound
like I'm some kind of expert and she's not. But
it's very been a situation with another person, like a
(24:12):
child or another adult, and they are having a strong
emotional response, they're angry with you or or whatever. It's
probably it's a problem. It's very difficult to not match
what they're doing. You know, if they're yelling at you,
it's hard not to then yell back at them. And
(24:34):
if they feel like if you're into this dialogue about
like you're unfair, know what uring is unfair? It's to
just keep getting oppositional. And I would always say, you know,
this kid just wants to feel like she's got some control,
because she doesn't have any control. She lives in our house.
We buy all the food, you know, technically we can
(24:55):
make her wear whatever clothes and be home and all this.
She wants to be in control. She wants to feel
like she's in control and so and she's freaking out.
If you're ever in a situation with an eight year
old or a thirteen year old where you're you're right
and they should really be apologizing and being the bigger person,
(25:17):
dream on, that's never going to happen if you've got
to be the person who chills out and takes it
down a notch and deals with it. And so my
approach from stand up if people are heckling, my thing
is always just give them attention, Like I'm not going
to stop the show for every every dominas or somebody
(25:40):
yells something, I'm going to talk to them. Sometimes what
they said was kind of funny. We all have a
laugh and they feel what it's like to have the attention,
and then they realize they don't. They don't have any material,
and they let you go back and do your.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Show and so exactly, they're like, well.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
So mine is ready with my daughter. Like if I'm
trying not to get emotionally engaged, right, the worst thing
it can happen if you're on stage and somebody starts
heckling you is you get angry with them. Like if
you're really angry at someone in the audience. Yes, you're
going to lose the rest of the audience. You know,
you let them have their stupid emotions. You don't say
(26:19):
that children, but you have your emotions. And this is
what I'm doing. And then sometimes and then as my
daughter has gotten older, like and her sense of humor
got better, and I would always like, you know that
thing you can do when when everybody's when people are
kind of saying mean stuff, and you can say something
mean back. But it's like a joke or a disarming
(26:41):
you know, I feel like I could get my daughter.
Sometimes she would just start laughing at how ridiculous her
anger was starting to seem. She would start we would
both start laughing. Sometimes that's amazing, or I mean, bottom line,
sometimes I would just say some version of of like,
I've been dealing with drunk grown ups for decades, And
(27:08):
are you sure that you want to get into a
contest who can say the meanest thing to the other
person with me? Is that what you think you want
to do?
Speaker 1 (27:24):
That is the best threat from a professional stand up
comic to a child.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Ever, you really want to go up because this because
I don't know if you've done an eleven thirty five
spot at the you know, Vegas Funny Bone or.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
What I thought her one time said to me, Oh,
I you know, she's she's nineteen going on. I'm thirty
years old now, so it's so her language. She's she
didn't really swear very much, and then when she started
to swear, my only thing was just be careful about
who you're swearing in front of because people can judge
you based on that. But so we let her. She
says whatever she says. Oh, I see what you do, dad,
(28:03):
because I'll say I love to say the most inappropriate
thing or do the ethnic accent that you're not supposed
to do when we're at the dinner. Oh, I see
what you do Dad. You just think of the most
fucked up thing to say, and then you say it,
and I go it kind of it's a safe we're
(28:23):
just laughing.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Yeah, yeah, you're like, but I've honed it.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
I've honed it in general. That's right, that's what you're
trying to do. That's I encourage you to also do that.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
That's awesome. Oh my goodness, thank you, thank you so
much for talking to me. I hope I am half
as good as a parent that.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
You I love the way you're empowering my child.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yes, oh yeah, right, exactly as you were telling me here.
I'm sure the results are a parent. But also I
kind of want to do Brazilian jiu jitsu, and I
know there's a place in my neighborhood. I'm going to
drop back.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Yeah, if it's the Hens, there's a couple of great
ones in New York. But Henzo Gracie's place spelled Ari
and Neo, and also Marcelo Garcia, Marcelo Marcello Garcia his place.
Those are the two famous e Brazilian guys there. But
you should definitely go check it out that they'll let you.
Usually you can take a few classes and they'll give
(29:22):
you a loaner. Gee is the pajama kind of suit
that you wear. They'll give you a loaner one of those.
But it's it's a great workout and I really encourage
you to do it. It's empowering. Here's the other thing about it.
It's one hundred percent physical and mental engagement for the
whole time. So you go into class, you warm up,
(29:44):
and then they teach you a technique and you get
paired with a partner and you practice back and forth
on the technique with each other, and then at the
end of the class, usually you have a few rounds
where you just spar and wrestle around with someone for
five minutes and they're going to break it in five minutes.
And during that class you're a one hundred percent mentally
and physically engaged. So it's like it's a flow experience
(30:06):
that you're having, and no matter what's happening in your life,
Like when my wife was sick with cancer and my
daughter was home from school on depression, I could leave
the house for an hour and a half and just
have this vacation for that period.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Of time, total escape.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Right, So please, you should do it. Anybody listening who
is interested in this should try it. Yeah, it's great,
I love it.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
I love it. Hey, you can go see Jake live everybody.
You tour all the time. But you're coming kind of
close to me right now. You're going to be at
the beautiful Ardent Guildhall in Arden, Delaware on May eleventh,
one day before Mother's Day. I hope you get back,
and I know.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
One day before and prior to that, the ninth, I'm
going to be in Arlington, Virginia, and the tenth I'm
going to be in Manassas, Virginia.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Oh, Virginia, Virginia, Delaware.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Yeah, fantastic.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
So go to jakethi dot com. Everybody do that.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Jake this dot com. You can link to things, you
can follow me. Please like and subscribe, Like and subscribe.
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Just I'm pointing below. There's nothing below. It's a podcast,
but I'm pointing below. Just like.
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