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April 17, 2024 15 mins

From G430 MAX 10K drivers to hit more fairways, to PLD custom putters to fit their stroke. Shane and Marty detail the equipment they have in the bag and how each club is custom-fit and custom-built to help them play their best.


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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The guys from Ping.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
They've kind of showed me how much the equipment matters.
I just love that I can hit any shot I
kind of want.

Speaker 3 (00:06):
We're gonna be able to tell some fun stories about
what goes on here to help golfers play better golf.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hey, everybody, I'm Shane Baker, Marty Jertsen with me. We
are going to look into our golf bags and see
where we're playing a lot of new gear for Pings.
So I have almost entirely new gear in the bag.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
What about you same?

Speaker 3 (00:24):
I think like pretty fresh anything that anything dated in
this bag?

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Well, I'm trying to think.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
I think my driver three wood thing we're gonna talk
about the most exciting in my five wood. Those are
probably my oldest clubs in the bag I've had for
you know, maybe nine months.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Well let's start.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Let's start with what you get the most excited about
in that is driver, Probably the most exciting driver that
I've had in a long time. I'm Max ten K.
I'm assuming your Max ten K is one oka been playing.
By the way, I've been playing this tour two point
zero cheft from sixty five. I think this is seventy five.
I've been playing it, I think since the last iteration
the driver, and I'm obsessed with it. I'm nine degree

with the driver. I think you've got a little more
loft on yours.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah, I'm the ten to five, but I'm in the
big minus, which means turns it down one point five degrees.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
So it's like net nine.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Net nine.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Why don't you just now?

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Let me ask you a question, why don't you just
play nine?

Speaker 3 (01:17):
So if you put it, if you put the ten
five in the big minus, you're gonna open the face
angle just slightly right. So I have a lot of
things going on in my driver and not hit it left. Okay,
that's my kind of thing. I fight my technique. So
I like the ten to five in the big minus
opens the face a little bit interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
I like how that sits down.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Let me ask you a question, how did you figure
that out? You know, I mean versus somebody that's going
to get fit for a driver. How do you figure
out to tweak that?

Speaker 1 (01:43):

Speaker 3 (01:44):
I think it's it's one of actually the benefits of
having our trajectory tuning sleeve. You can use it to
tweak the loft. But as you're tweaking the loft and
putting the shaft in at a different angle, it's changing
the touch point on the ground, so it's moving the
touch point more forward.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Then when the head.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Grab the acts on the head, it okay, rocks the
face a little bit more open, and it also kind
of points the face angle at a dress slightly more open.
Do the because the club has loft on it, you're
de lofting, it opens the face face fractionally as.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Well, every little half a degree matter. Sham.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Your bag is incredible. All right, Let's show the funniest,
coolest club in your bag.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
All right, the funnest one.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
My driver, now my driver at the ten k I'm
playing close to forty six inches right, It's like forty
five and seven eighths, which is fun because I'm because
the inert is really high. I'm trying it a little
bit longer so i can get a little more club.
Its okay, so far, it's going pretty straight. So most
people are expected a three wood out of the head
cover exactly, not three exactly. So let's start with the
genesis and how this happened. Okay, we're right put the

back of the bag. You know. It's oh yeah, So
we were running some stats, and I was wondering. I
was just thinking about my game, and I'm like, in
Arizona Golf, how many times do I hit threewood off
the tee? Because I was kind of struggling with three
wood off the tee versus how many times do I
hit off the ground. So I started keeping stats on
this and I got like ten or twenty rounds in
in Arizona Golf, and I was like, man, I've only

hit this thing off the ground like twice. And so
then we started mining everyone's data. Okay, okay, and that's
I think We've talked about this on a few episodes
where if you hit it shorter, you hit your three
were off the ground A lost sure. If you hit
it three hundred yards on an average flips right of
course at flips and you hit it ninety percent of
the time off the tee, Well, in Arizona Golf, I

was hitting it ninety five percent of the time off
the tee. So I was like, I'm gonna build this
fun little thing, which is let me get more inertia
hit my three woods. So I got a twelve degree
G four to thirty max CG shifter in the fade.
And this thing is only forty two and three quarters
inches long, and I got the same shaft do you
have in your driver there? Two or two point oho

seventy five black Shane. This thing is the funnest thing.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
You hit it off the ground too.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
It's very functional off the ground.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
I made a few eagles off the ground by I
could build to go as long as I want I
need it to. I mean, you're kind of constrained by
what you can hit with your driver, but I build
it to go about two seventy and a lot of
times I tea it really low. And if I'm nervous
in my tendency with the three wood, even though we
have all these fitting options, is kind of get underneath it.
Some had technique things and hit it to the left.

I find so many fairways with this thing. It's incredible.
That's kind of your fairwyfinder. That's the fairy find.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Totally my fairy finder.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
I'm a little more traditional. Next up, what do you
ad just a three wood? I didn't. I didn't like.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Tweak it down.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
This is G four thirty by the way, lst Yeah,
love this thing. Beautiful, beautiful in terms of sitting in
the address, and I like a little bit more low
profile with my three wood, So I love this thing.
The Max is great, but again, and to me, I
found it as much as much as I'm hitting off
the ground, I wanted to go LST versus the Max.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah, LST so LST tie body, it's really built like
a driver but supercharged tie body, tungsten soul plate, tons
of masks in the soule plate CG really really low.
And that's a good mix of good off the ground,
down the tea.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Our next clubs. A lot of the clubs in our bag,
especially irons and wedges, are similar, but this is where
we're different. You're five wood next? Is that right?

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Five with?

Speaker 3 (05:09):
And I'm kind of like some of the tour players
where I build my five wood short. So our standard
is forty two and a half half inch shorter, but
I play mine at like forty one and seven eighths
and that shorter helps me keep it a little bit lower,
take a little bit distance off. And again I have
the tour two point zero black seventy five.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
What's that thing fly?

Speaker 1 (05:29):
This thing flies like two fifty five.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
But I have a lot of versatility, like I can
hit a soft spinny cut with it if I want to.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
I can turn it if I want to. What do
you got in that spot?

Speaker 2 (05:38):
I've been a crossover guy. I had this seven wood
in for a bit, and I love the seven wood,
but I've been playing crossover since you guys introduced Yeah,
what is that ten twelve years ago? Yeah, I can't
get away from it. When I start to spray it
off the tea, which I'm like to do, I will
lean on the crossover heavily. So I go three iron crossover.
I think it flies kind of like a traditional two
iron for me. It's in that two forty two to

fifty range for me. And again it's like to your
twelve degree driver. This is kind of my fairway finder
when I need it and I like it. I can
take stuff off at about want too. I can hit
it like kind of stingy if I need to sting it,
and I can hit the bullet cut too. So big
crossover fan, and I have the two iron as well,
but I typically lean on the three.

Speaker 1 (06:18):

Speaker 3 (06:18):
I was looking at your hostle setting, so you got
it in the stock. We got the crosshouse there, and
then denote that it's a lefty hossele Ye stock setting.
I think one of the cool things that our fitters
of loved though, is that you can adjust that loft
on it, but also go to some settings that flatten
if somebody needs to.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
So we are in the same iron, but before we
get to those irons, I'm in a little bit of
a different situation with my four iron. I two thirty,
just again a little bit more forgiving. I could hit
a little higher in the air. Big fan of this club.
This was when I got my new set of things
last year in May. I think this was the club
that I was most in love with out of that bag,

and it still remains one of my favorites. So one
of the last remaining clubs that I have considering the
new stuff.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah, so I'm playing the blueprint s four iron and
one thing I do, Shane a little bit different. We
might have done this when I helped you with that
foreign with your foreign, and I think we did is
went a little bit longer. Yep, right, So I'm playing mine.
When I start transitioning my lengths, starting at the four
five six, I go three quarters of an inch increments
instead of traditionally your irons would be a half inch

longer per club, so I get just a little extra
speed boost, a little extra dynamic loft boost, and that's
really helped me. I actually also play a different shaft
in my foreign really, so I'm playing the KBS Tour
X in my fore iron and then I transition to
X one hundreds. I think your foe iron can kind
of be treated as like that. It's like your transition club.

It can be a little different model. You can maybe
go a little lighter shaft that has a little bit
more kick in it. So I think for players of
our caliber, our speed range, it's like okay to do
something a little bit different, you know, little longer lank,
a little lighter chaft, different model, transition it.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
You mentioned blueprint ass That's what I'm playing as well.
I'm gonna I'm gonna throw this out there. Likely to
be the most popular irons of twenty twenty four, and
for good reason, seeing a lot of players put these
in the bag quickly fall in love with them quickly.
I was the same way I got them in the
mail before a golf trip. I didn't hit them one time,
took them to the golf trip, loved him. Made some
verdies with them, hit them close. Beautiful, beautiful iron.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Shane, I'm kind of with you. I think this is
gonna be the player's iron in twenty twenty four and beyond.
I mean, I think what you've seen on the PGA tour,
so many of our staffers, tons of non staffers putting
them in play, which is an amazing sign, especially in
the iron category. We've learned from some and brought in
some of our great characteristics of our previous blade style irons.

But the big thing on these iron chain and why
they feel One of the reason why they feel so
good is the CG is really low, so it feels
like you're always like making good contact with the golf ball.
So I love that about them. I'm playing mine with
X one hundreds. Uh, kind of a color code between
black and red. I play right in between black and red,
pretty traditional loss, like I play mine, pretty traditional loss

that can blend right into my wedges.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
I'm X one hundred as well. Love love them. It's
funny with X one hundred, I feel like if youre
X one hundreds, you can be Yeah, it's hard to
kick it out and transitioning from irons to the new wedges. Yeah,
I mean, we were talking about the new wedges before
we started shooting.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
We'd love yeah, totally. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
So I go to a pitching wedge and then I
go because your blueprint with your pitch edge, I'm blueprint
with my pitching wedge.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
And yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
And what's fun, Shane, is when you when I put
my information into or find my grind app or webfit wedge,
it spits out in the exact recommendation. So I get
spit out of sixty t which I play, then a
fifty six bent to fifty five to perfect my gapping.
So my pitching wedge goes or my my fifty six

bent to fifty five goes one fifteen. Then I go
to my fifty degree right at fifty and that goes
exactly one third, and then my pitching wedge at like
one for six. So now the thing I they have
done with my wedges that some of our tour players
do is I play a very different grind in my
sand wedge than my lob wedge.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
So I play our wide sol. So the w grind
super wide. If you look at the.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Camber, which is how round it is from front to back,
it's got a lot more canber to it, so I
feel like I can be like way more aggressive on
my full shots. And this is awesome for long bunker
shots anytime you have that like awkwardly long, like thirty
five forty yarder. I've found that having this wide soul

is super helpful in those scenarios. But then my sixty
I have my sixty bent to sixty one is the
t grind and it's just stock. I didn't have to
put any extra grind on there, so it's thin. It's
got a lot of angle, but the angle is all
built up close to the lead edge, plenty of relief
on the trailing edge, the heel and the toe. Because
I moved the handle around a lot, I'll hit a

lot of chip shots the handle up, I'll hit high shots.
With the handle down, I'll open the face. A lot
of maximal importance to me is being able to hit
like a high spinny shot off a tight grass or
a tight line.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
And that's the grind.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
The tea grind is absolutely perfect.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Now, one other thing Shane I do that's a little
interesting on my lob wedge is I played a half
inch short. So a lot of people grab this and
they're like this thing feels tiny, So the shorter you go,
it's like everything you do is gripping down on it.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, and my swing weight is lighter too.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
Not for everybody, but the swing mate on my lob
wedge is like D one and it helps reduce the
ball velocity coming.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Off the face.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
So if you see, if you're a golfer that struggles
with maybe you're hitting those chip shots and like the
ball speed's always a little bit too high. Something to
kind of play around with. Let's go into earth. It's
very very interesting. I'm I'm pretty standard across the board.
I mean I'm as grind across the board, forty six fifty,
fifty six sixty.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
It's kind of been the way I played on wedges
for the last few years. Yeah, and I've been in
love with these wedges. They've been so awesome.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
I think the s grind is perfect for you because
you're kind of the meat and potatoes. When we've played golf,
you have kind of a meat and potato short game technique,
like like plenty of variety, but you don't do anything
in one extreme. You move the handle around, you move
the handle position around a little bit, you travel a lot,
you play a lot of different variety of courses. So
the s grind is kind of the meat and potatoes,

like reliable to Leana, Yeah, very reliable to Lena.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
And then putters. Now you talk about different in the bag.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah, this is as far off.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Maybe it's the five wood in the in the crossover,
but I mean this is wild. I mean, my PLD
is so great. I was so pumped to find the tie.
I mean, I just think it's perfect for me, a
little bit of a smaller head. Got a stamp with
the kids and the dog's initials. Don't forget the dog
of course, and uh yeah, I mean just I mean,
how can you not love to look at this butter? Yeah,
that tine is sweet.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
I think it was fun for us to work on
that with Cameron Champ because we originally launched the time
and it was like it was too big for him
and like, hey, let's make it smaller. And that's that's
what the PLD program is all about, Like customization. Yeah,
really for you, yes, make it. And so taking that
smaller version has been a great option for folks and
blades that are looking to go.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
To like a mid mallet. Now I'm a long putter guy.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
You know, I and played around which, By the way,
when'd you switch the long putter.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
I've been a long putter for like twenty years. Yeah,
so like a couple of years after college. It wasn't
necessarily that I was having the hebgb's.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
I just liked it. It was fun. I like the
physics of it, and.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Did anchor previously I had.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah, the first year was a little tough on that,
but a few things I've adjusted there. I've changed my
setup a lot, and compared to when I was anchoring,
my putter is now about an inch and a half shorter,
so I'm a little.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
More bent over.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
Use a claw grip, and I have the Oslow PLD
oslow and it has a full shaft offset, which I
really like. So if you look at the trail edge
of the shaft and line up with the face, it's
like a perfect intersection and it has just a slight
amount of toe hang. Because even with a long putter stroke,
I still wrote hate the face a little bit, so

it's very important. That's like the principle and putter fitting
to help with your start line is to match your
face rotation to your arc. So even with a long putter,
you still can have a little bit of arc, and
it's very important to still go through that fitting process.
So this thing, though, is about four hundred and ninety grams.
It doesn't look big, man, but this thing is solid

and long. Single alignment line. I use a line on
the ball, so I kind of try to my eye
catches the back, it catches the front of the line
marries it up there. And I love the way this
thing feels with the milling on the face.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
I mean that thing will push you over fifty pounds
when you're traveling. I mean you have to pay extra
for the back.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
I have a little luggage scale in my garage and
I always have a double shock. Surprised by that.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
I mean similar in terms of a lot of the
stuff we have in the bag. But there's obviously some
some differentiators in there with the you know, you have
the drive versus the three wood, and of course the
five wood and the crossover and the ledges are a
little bit different. The putter is drastically different. But I've
seen you make a lot of ten footers, so obviously
it's working for Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to do the
same thing. That's what's in the back
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