August 9, 2023 • 42 mins
Paige and Sam get right into it with the divot rule, JT and the Ryder Cup, Lucas Glover's win and his wife's shocking past domestic violence incident, and Bryson DeChambeau's key to success (which Paige and Sam have been preaching forever!). They finish up with a quick golf T&A session.
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Speaker 2 (01:17):
Hello everyone, Welcome back to the Playing Round Podcast and
you are here with your two favorite golf girls, Sam
and Paige. And Sam, we have a lot to talk about.
It was a very interesting week in golf and so
let's just get right on into it. So I have
to say that I was sweating over the last couple
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holes because I picked Russell Henley to win and it
was tight between him and Lucas Glover. And the first
thing we need to talk about the rule on divets.
Russell Henley got absolutely fucked over. And yes, you could say,
like if he hit the green or if he hit
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the fairway, then he wouldn't have to deal with these issues.
But he missed the green, landed in a divot the
size of a crater because everything would feedback in land
in the divot, and he didn't get up and down,
and then he got a horrendous lie on the next
hole where it plugged, well, it looked like a plugged
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but it didn't, and then he had to like hack
it out. And on the flip side, Lucas Lever snap
hooked a drive on eighteen and it hits a cart,
hits a cart, it bounces all the way back and
it didn't matter in the end he won by two
but luck of the green. Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
So you've been very vocal about your rules disagreements in
the past, but I want to know what your proposed
fix is to this. Is it just like nearest point
or relief one club length like it is with a
cart path, or you can't have a whole club length
to improve your lie.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Just I think it's dearest point. And if you are
in the fairway and you land in a divot, you
should get free relief. That's it. So this rule wouldn't
apply to the shitty lie that Russell Henley had on
whole seventeen, but it could help them out on the
par three because everything keeps feeding back in and feeding
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back in, and so they set these courses up to
trick up the players, and then on top of it,
they're all landing in the exact same divot. And at
some point it's just not fair. And you can say
life's not fair, Golf's not fair. It's just the rub
of the green. But I don't like that you hit
a good shot, you're in the fairway, you should get
relief from a divot.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yeah, And I think what's interesting about the divot situation
is like, is there not someone there fixing them as
they go. I understand that it still sucks, but like,
I don't understand how a divot is left untreated for
at a PGA Tour event.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
I guess I will say though, if I was in
Russell Henley's position and someone put the divot back into
the grass, back into the divot, or if they standed it,
that would have been a much more difficult shot. There's
nothing worse than when you have a chunk of grass
that they replace their divot with. Okay, it's the piece
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of grass is the divot and the hole is the divot.
What do you call the divot? Dibbot? It's the divot
for the divot, Like, what do you call that thing?
You know, there's there's.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
A lot of people like amateurs who don't are just
learning golf who call Ballmark's dinnert.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
When you take a chunk, Yeah, when you take a
chunk of the grass, that's the chunk is the divot,
and the grass that flies is the divot. So you
put the divot back in the divot.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Anyway, I'm trying to explain this and I'm like, you
put divot.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
People are like just shut up, But this just makes sense.
But a sand and divot, or a divot that is
replaced in the it's impossible to hit from. It's so difficult.
So just a wide chunk of nothing is a much
easier shot than if it was sanded. So I'm glad
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they didn't fix it in Russell Henley's position. But anytime
you walk up and you look down in your balls
and a divot, it's just so deflating.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
And I think a lot of people say, you know,
we shouldn't change that rule because it's just is what
it is. Like. You know, my mom used to say
fairs are for fars, are for funnel cakes, like life's
not fair. But think about how few times you've landed
in a divot in your life? Like it doesn't happen
very often, I don't think, which is why I think
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changing the rule. It's not like it would automate, automatically
make you improve by ten shots, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
It always happens when it shouldn't happen. That's where know
they know, the divots know, and I'm I'm praying to
the golf gods throughout my round. I'm fixing other people's ballmarks.
I'm fixing other people's dibts, and I still end up
in other in dibits. It does not make sense to me,
But I will say that it was really entertaining to
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one watch Justin Thomas tried to make the playoffs and
then that back and forth between Lucas Glover and Russell Heinley.
Before we get into Lucas Glover, because we have a
lot to say about that, let's talk about JT not
making the Fedik Cup playoffs. So, first off, what has
happened to Justin Thomas. We've talked about this before and
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we're both on the same page of it's golf. You
have the ups and the downs, but someone of Justin's caliber,
even when he is really struggling, should still be one
of the best seventy players in the world.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I know what happened. He got married, He got married,
he got married, he got a little perspective, had a
no Phone's wedding at Troubadour. The fuck is up and
hasn't made a cut. Actually, well, he made the cut,
but I don't know. I think we've talked about this before.
When you're searching, it's like the most demoralizing bullshit because
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you just can't, like you can't find anything, and that
I feel like, I don't know, I feel for him.
I think he's one of my favorite players to watch.
I love how he's one of the few players who
I love watching his emotion and how he actually cares,
and like, you know, it's such a stark difference between
watching him and like a Patrick Cantley, who like has
never had an emotion on his face in his life.
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And I love the fire in Justin Thomas, and I
think it's been it's been hard to watch. And I think,
did you see the chip on the eighteenth hole?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Chip on the eighteenth hole where he has to make
it He has to make birdie on eighteen to make
it into the playoffs, and he hits it left, has
this seventy yard hook around trees off of the pine straw,
hits an amazing shot. And then Justin Thomas, known for
one of the best short games on tour, hits this
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incredible pitch shot, hits right in front, hits the pin.
I thought it was going in and just popped on out.
But when you're talking about Justin Thomas caring so much
and being so passionate and feisty. It's what makes him
so great, but it's also, I think the reason why
he is struggling so much right now. So I think
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that Amy Olsen put this perfectly where she said that
in golf, you have to practice every single day like
it is the most important thing in your entire life,
and you have to care so much. But then tournament
day comes around, you tee it up and you have
to play like you don't care one bit. And it's
such a really difficult dynamic with golf because it is
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so mental, and you're seeing a player like Justin Thomas
who cares so deeply and he works so incredibly hard
and he's doing everything he possibly can, and when it's
going well, you have that confidence. But when one thing
starts to go wrong, I write an article where he's not.
He's really changed up his diet and he's doing everything
he can to get back to that level. It's almost
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like the more you put into it and the more
you care, the harder it is to perform under pressure.
And I think that's what we're seeing because he does
care so much and he is so passionate about what
he does, and you see a player like a Dustin
Johnson or they always say Brooks, yeah, Brooks, where they
try to like play with no care at all, like
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no worries in their mind, nothing at all. You have
to go out there. And I've even seen this, and
this is something that I really struggled with when I
was playing competitively, especially in college golf, when I would
see people get absolutely trashed the night before a tournament
and then go out there and shoot a sixty six.
And I'm grinding, I'm trying to eat while I'm working out,
doing everything I need to be doing, and then I
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absolutely blow it on tournament day. And that is so
demoralizing to see that and say, like I'm doing everything
I possibly can, it should be working. And golf is
one of those sports where it's almost the opposite. When
you're not properly conditioned or you're not taking care of
your body, it's going to show up in other sports,
but with golf not always the truth.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
I could not agree more. And I think one of
the things that I always noticed when playing was like
when it was really raining or when it was super
windy and your mind is so focused on something else.
I've always tended to play better because I'm so not
focused on what score, Like where I'm at on my scorecard,
what I'm thinking about in my swing. I'm trying to
stay dry, keep all my towels under the umbrella. But like,
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how do you train yourself to care less? You need
to do that.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I need to do that, trust me a bunch of
sports psychologists, and still it never helped. We can talk
about this all day long, but we all know that
Justin Thomas is going to make the Ryder Cup.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Do you think so?
Speaker 2 (10:47):
I think so.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
If I was another player, I'd be pissed. Who played
a lot. I would be fucking missed. I don't know.
As much as I love Justin Thomas and the Ryder Cup,
I think I will think less of Zach Johnson if
he picks him.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Really, I think that's a hot take. Explain.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I don't think he's worthy of it this year. Like
if you look at the if you look at the
people who if it wasn't Captain's picks and it was
just the next six people who would have qualified on play,
he's like seventieth on that list.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Like literally, well actually seventy first.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Well yeah, good one. But yeah, I don't know. I
think I don't think it will be the right move.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Do you think there's some merit to be take that?
Within the Ryder Cup, having great team camaraderie and having
someone who is a fiery, feisty player almost eliminates bad
play of the entire year because you would see on
the European team where they would bring certain players in
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who really weren't playing their best, but they would turn
it up and they could bring it when it counted
during the Ryder Cup because they were great match play players.
Is that something that you're looking at Justin Thomas? I
would say from the camarader aspect, yes, because everyone loves
Justin Thomas and I think he would add so much
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to the team atmosphere. But when I think of great
Ryder Cup players, Justin Thomas is not the first person
that pops into my mind.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
I mean, he's the first person I think of when
I think of like the celebration photos with Tiger and
things like that. But like at that point, just make
him a volunteer assistant and have him drive a golf cart,
like if it's about the camaraderie, like he'll still be
in the locker room. Still, I don't know, we could
go in a whole rabbit hole about that.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
The last thing I'll say is my only issue with it,
is that I do think that Justin Thomas will be
on the team, and I can see all the reasons
why he will potentially be on the team. But if
I am a player who is having the year of
my career and this is probably my only Ryder Cup
opportunity and they pick Justin Thomas over someone who is
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actually playing extremely well right now and they will never
play in a Ryder Cup, I would be very frustrated
if I was that player. That's a tough beat, for sure.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
I agree, and that'll be interesting.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
So we got to get into this Lucas Glover situation
because it was a very interesting one. So after Lucas
Glover won, his daughter was bawling hysterically, and Lucas Glover
got very emotional, and he had this amazing interview with
Amanda and he was talking about how this means so
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much to him because he's been playing really bad this
year and he just hasn't been able to see his
kids that often. And so I was really touched by that,
really touched by that, and I was thinking, I'm like,
how bad has Lucas Glover been playing this year that
you can't even see your kids, like you were on
the road every single week and you have to make money.
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So I looked and he's been on tour since his
twentieth year on tour. His total career earnings is thirty
point five million dollars, and this season alone he has
made two point five million dollars.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
He's played in twenty five events, made fourteen cuts, four
top tens, five top twenty fives. I mean, what is
going on here? The daughter crying threw me off to
begin with. Maybe it's my aversion to kids. And then secondly,
I don't know what are they spending? Are they did
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he spend it all already?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
But the whole Lucas Glover situation is giving the same
energy as James Han when he was complaining how he
couldn't fly back to see his daughter start the first
day of school and all these parents working multiple jobs
and barely you know, making it buy And James Han
made at that point like twelve million dollars throughout his career,
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and you're looking at Lucas Glover and I know he
just won, and that was probably a big chunk of
the two point five million dollars, but he was still
making a ton of money before he got this win,
and so it's like it almost it always ruined the
moment for me when I found that out. It's like,
sometimes you look at these pros and I'm sure we
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all have our own issues, and no matter how much
money you have, there are still things that people are
battling every single day. And I understand that, but.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Calm a butt, But like, come on, come.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
On, I think it's just a little insensitive to say
that given your financial position and knowing what other people
are going through and what they have to go through,
Like some people don't even see their kids at all
because they are working multiple jobs and they're gone in
the morning and they're gone at night, and they're trying
just to get by. And it's like, come on, Lucas Lover, like,
I know this means a lot to you, and I'm
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supportive and I like you, but it just came off
a little insensitive to me.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Well, all I have to say is that I bet
his wife was happy after he won, because I remember
a time where she was Remember this, I.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Think you need to run through Lucas Glover's timeline because
it is a wild one, and I'm not sure a
lot of people remember.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
This, so I remember it, and then I went down
a rabbit hole, and I don't remember all of this
shit that I'm about to tell you. I don't remember
the details being that out there. And this was when
I worked at Golf Channel, so I feel like I
should have known at this point.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
So okay, set it up for us, Sam, what year
we in?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
We are in twenty nineteen? It's May twenty nineteen, and
ponavidri Beach at the Players Championship.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
It was twenty nineteen, twenty nineteen. It wasn't even a
long ago. I thought this happened in like twenty fifteen.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
No, And the best part is that at this point
in his career, when this event happened, he had made
twenty million dollars. Okay, just keep that in mind, and
his whole career earnings. And that's just on course. That's
not giving sponsors like all that, you know, appearance on
his hat, all that shit. Okay. Christa is the wife's name.
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After the third round at the Players in twenty nineteen,
Lucas Glover shot a seventy eight. Christa Glover was arrested.
On a domestic violence charge after she reportedly became upset
and quote forcefully attacked Lucas after he shot seventy eight.
This is all like quotes from the court documents. I'm
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not even exaggerating this. She showered Lucas with insults, called
him a pussy and a loser, then resorted to physical violence.
She told him that Lucas needs to fire everyone, and
he would and he better win or she and the
kids would leave him and he would never see them again.
So then this whole thing goes down. She's hitting him
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right and and his mom. Okay, she's like in a
physical altercation with Lucas and his sixty three year old
mother at the time, Christa calls nine to one one
and says she's being attacked by Lucas's mom. Lucas grabs
the phone and is like, that's not true. She's lying,
Like both of these women are out of their minds.
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Then he said, then this is like a fucking I'm serious.
Then he tells the police, my wife has gone crazy
and she's trying to blame it on my mom, but
it's really her. Keep in mind, this is happening at
their rental house in panavidre Beach, Florida, after he had
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just played three rounds at the Fucking Players a year
before the Chainsmokers. This was not that long ago, Okay,
So apparently Lucas and his mom both had visible injuries
like bruises and cuts, and there was blood on his
mom's shirt, so like, this was not just a little.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Like I don't remember it being like this. I don't either.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
So she was charged with battery and resisting an officer.
And then when she was in the back of a
cop car, she goes to the cops. Wait till the
tour here about this. You will lose your job. This
is why cops get shot in the face. Wait till
I talk to a judge. You will be fucking fired
over this. In quotes in the court documents, that's what
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she said. Then then what happens, Sam, I can't believe
there's more then a report. You know, they have to
like investigate and talk to Lucas and talk to the
mom and do the whole due diligence thing. Lucas said
that his wife regularly yells at him when he plays bad.
And then after that, this is how I found out
about it, because Lucas tweeted. He came out with like
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a statement and said that it was a private matter.
Everyone's fine, and it would be handled in private. Then
Christa did twenty five hours of community service and her
case was thrown out, and it's just all no and void.
Now what.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I remember this situation and I remember seeing her mugshot,
but I didn't realize it was that bad. And domestic
violence is no joke on either side. And I don't
think that people talk about the abuse that of most
men face in their w relationships, and it's never really
fully brought to light. And I want to be very
serious about this moment because people don't talk about this
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and think about if it was reversed and what would
have happened and what would have transpired. They're still together.
He mentioned in the post conference talk with Amanda that
he was like, my wife couldn't be here today, like
say hi to mom, like all this stuff. He like
pointed it out that they are like still together, and
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it's insane. It's insane, it's scary.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
I think, like you said, it's not talked about. A
lot of issues aren't talked about, various issues when it
would have been the other gender or would have been
a different person. And I think that the fact that
I literally worked for Golf Channel as someone who wrote
articles about this shit and I did not know any
of this is crazy. And I don't know. I think that,
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like you said when you were looking up his career,
he's been a lot more accessful than I thought he was.
I mean, there's not that many guys on tour that
have made over thirty million, Like, there's just not I mean,
he has like.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
A Charles Howell, a third career. It's going right in
a sneak career, sneak a good career. Yeah, that's insane.
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men that we don't fully talk about enough. And I
don't mean to like totally change the subject, but when
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we to the Barbie movie, this was actually a conversation
that we had where it was all about how women
feel like they have to be everything all the time
to everyone, and no one ever discusses the fact that
men also feel those pressures. They have to look a
certain way, they have to act a certain way, they
can't be too emotional, but they have to show some emotion.
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They have to be all these things all the time,
and it's exhausting. It's exhausting. And then there's issues that
happen like this that don't fully get talked about, and
it's difficult, Like it is difficult. And I hope that
you know, we have a male dominated audience, and I
think growing up in golf, which is very male dominated,
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we do see that side a little bit more, and
I wish people talked about it.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Yeah, it's scary what goes on behind closed doors, and
like we talk about all the time, you never know
what somebody is going through. And the more compassionate kindness
you can show mostly online because I feel like that's
where people get, you know, their big boy britches on
and think they can say whatever they want. It's just
you never know what people are going through and that
is the moral of the story here.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
So then, learning from my mistakes, maybe it wasn't insensitive
that Lucas Glover was crying, and good for him for
showing his emotions. And then it meant a lot too, because,
like we said, you don't know what's going on behind
closed doors, and he again, you don't know. I don't
want to speculate anything, but he was very emotional for
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a reason. It meant a lot to him. So good
on Lucas Glover. Something that was really cool that happened
was Bryce in d Schambeau shot a fifty eight to
win the live event. I tweeted this, most people can't
even shoot at fifty eight in a four man scramble
with mulligans, and a bunch of people were commenting, They're like,
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I've shot lower, and I'm like, yeah, you're cheating, You're cheating.
But the fact that still four people all of their
best shots and you still can't shoot a fifty eight.
I don't care where you are, what course you're on,
from what distance. A fifty eight is so fucking good.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
It's crazy, and I think it. I mean, first thing
I'll say is if he shot at fifty eight and
no one saw, it doesn't really count. But it's just
a little joke. I had to get in there. I
do think I was a little bit sad that I
didn't hear anything about it or see anything about it
until he had already made the putt to shoot fifty eight.
Like I would have loved to watch that live golf
PGA Tour. I don't give a shit. I would have
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loved to tune in and see that.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Right.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
A couple interesting facts about his fifty eight. He had
a bogie. Okay, that's crazy. I mean we did see
Jerry Kelly shooting fifty eight, but he did. And talk
about times when you don't care. I don't think he
could have cared less about how he was playing, and
he was just firing them off that day.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Bryceon also played with a long drive driver, the Crank
Golf driver. They that brand has won over twenty five
World long drive Championships.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
That's crazy, but that makes sense because I was looking
at his what's in the bag and it was like
his long driver and his short driver, and I'm like, what, what?
What is a short driver? Why do you have a
long driver a short driver? So that checks out. Thanks
for clarifying that for me.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Some things you could have kept to yourself. You know
what I think is interesting, which is very timely. We
have been on only page telling you guys about games
you can play on the golf course by yourself with
friends this summer, and one that we just uploaded was
playing the front tees and how both of us in
college played that all the time.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
This for years, for years.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
And guess what Bryson said his key to success?
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Can you finish your thought because I'm gonna ran, I'm
gonna I'm gonna rant after this, so you continue.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
He said that his key to success was and has
been playing the front tees because he's comfortable making a
shit ton of birdies. That's literally what he said after
And then I was like, huh, that's a bit funny,
isn't it.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
The fact that that we foreshadow everything, Yes, and that
we have been saying this for years four years. Sam
and I have both played at a very high level.
We didn't make it for our own personal reasons, but
we're really cute. So we've we've discussed if people would
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just listen to what we're saying, they would be so
much better off. Now. It's a huge story that Bryson
is like I puted from the Red Teeth.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
I have been telling you that for years, the amount
of retweets that I saw men being like, Oh, I'm
gonna do it now, like do as I.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Say, Do as I say.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Listen first time what we are telling you, because we
know our stuff, and it's getting.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
To the point where I'm tired of downplaying our ability.
I'm tired of it. And we are fucking good. We
have played at such a high level, we have worked
with some of the best coaches in the world, and
we know what we're talking about. Listen to us. You're
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going to improve if you listen to us. And I
see these guys on the internet following people who can't
break ninety five, and we are here giving you quality information,
everything that we have learned and absorbed in our years
(27:38):
of playing. We are giving it to you for free,
for free. It drives me insane. That really bothered me
because I'm like we have been saying that, We've always
been saying that. We've talked about this multiple times on
this podcast, on YouTube channel, on op that is just
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a game that you should do to shoot lower scores.
It is such a good game to do.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Deep breaths.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I mean, it's frustrating.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
No, it is. I was gonna.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Let you I'm good, I'm good, I'm good.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
I was gonna let the high pitched rant go on
as long as it did to Yeah, I think, uh,
I think you're right, and I think, you know, maybe
everybody will come around one day realize that we're not idiots.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
It's like when we tell people to go get fitted.
You how many times I've told people to go to
Club Champion and go get fit for your clubs. That
buying off the rack is such a waste of money.
You're not going to get the performance that you're looking
for out of your golf club. So just go and
get fit. And every time someone listens to me, the
messages I get back is like I've gained fifty yards,
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I've done this, I've done this, and like I know,
I know, you know. What I've started to do to
get people to listen to me is someone called me
their golf mommy, and so I have now become golf
mommy on Instagram, and so as their mother, I'm telling
them what they should be doing, and they listen, and
(29:15):
they listen. They're finally listening to their golf mommy. So,
as your golf mommy, go to Club Champion and go
get fit for your clubs. And because we all love
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Speaker 3 (29:26):
We're going to rapid fire through five golf questions we
were asked on the Instagram account last night. Number one,
which I think this is an interesting question. Our blade
or mallet putters better? It depends on your putting stroke.
I also think better is just not a word you
can use here. We've talked about this before. A lot
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of the time, if you don't like what you're looking
down at, forget it. That's why people change putters a lot,
is because they get fatigue of looking down at the
same putter all the time. Or you have people like
Tiger who use the same and style for their whole lives.
So do you think it's fair to say that there's
not a better or worse No. I think it comes
down to your stroke and what's most important? Are you
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face balanced? Is it toe hang?
Speaker 2 (30:12):
What does the shape of the hozzle look like? These
are all things that really actually do come into play
on what makes a good putter for you, because you
could really like something but it might not be the
best putter for you. But when it comes to putting,
it's such an individualized experience where you could play a
putter that's not fair for you, that doesn't like you
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should be playing something totally different. But if you have
confidence with it and you're putting well with it and
you can make it work, then it's one club that's
completely different than any other club in your bag. And
I still recommend going to get fit because I do
think a lot of people are playing the wrong putter
for them and they're having a potter with toe hang
and need one with face balance, And then they're like,
why am I missing them all this way or that way.
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I'm like, well, it's because it is of your putter,
but no, it's what looks good to your eye. There's
not one is not better than the other. I do recommend, though,
when you do get a new putter, to stick with
it for a little bit, because I do see people
changing their putters up quite constantly, and I think that's
also a mental issue that they have when it comes
to putting. Stick with it and get through the good
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times and the bad times, like think of your putter
as a marriage. Well, I can't speak on that. Let's
go the next question.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Oh god, I'm dead. Okay, what's your favorite drill to
learn better tempo?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I'm putting or full swing?
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Full swing?
Speaker 2 (31:33):
My favorite drill for tempo is the stop at the
top drill. Tiger Woods came out and he said that
this was a drill that he used when he was
playing his best golf and it's so simple and so easy,
but it really does help you. So you swing up
to the top of your swing, hold it for a second,
and then you come down. It sinks everything up. Most
people rush it from the top and everything is out
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of sync where their hips are going first, with hands
are going first, and so when you stop at the
top to be able to make contact, everything just has
to come through smoothly. And as the best drill that
has worked for me for tempo, how about you, I.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Would say, if we're if you're talking about more just
to get the feeling, I would say swinging with two
clubs in your hands, or getting one of those little
swing weights off Amazon that are two or three pounds
and putting it down by the club head. I think
getting yourself to really get in the motion and used
to slowing down mostly in your backswing, and when you
use heavier clubs, that's not going to allow you to
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cast it up here get really fast at the top
of your swing. I would say, that's something that I
always did. And then I mean, if you do have
the means too. If I could recommend one training aid,
it would be the orange whip for the tempo. I
literally loved my orange whip. Took that thing everywhere, So
that's what I would say. What kind of snacks do
you like to bring on the golf course? People are
looking for snack ideas multiple people actually.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
So I would say most people will go for a
hot dog at the turn, which is a delicious snack.
But when I was playing competitively, you want to keep
your energy and you don't want to have an insane
burst of energy, So you don't want to have a
sugar spike or a caffeine spike because within golf you
want to stay as level as possible, and so sometimes
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when you have too much caffeine or too much sugar,
you can get a little bit jittery, which can affect
your putting. So I like snacks like a peanut butter
and banana sandwich. You can do a peeb and j
anything with some protein as well, So you can do
a protein drink, a nice trail mix that has, you know,
like unsalted almonds and really things that are a bit
(33:33):
boring or bland. But when you're trying to keep your
energy and your focus for such a long period of time,
anything like my favorite trail mix is like adding some
dried fruit almonds. You can add some dark chocolate to
that if you want, like a little bit of a
kick of sugar. A peanut butter banana sandwich, and then
a protein bar and a protein shake, and you want
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to try to nibble at least every three holes and
drink a ton of water, and that way you're going
to be hydrated, feeling good, your energy's going to be consistent.
But eating every three holes is really the way to go.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
That's the key that I was going to say was
I think it's less about what it is and more
about the consistency throughout. Because the people who just eat
a big ass hot dog on whole number ten is
like good luck, and then you're gonna want to go
to sleep after the round because you've also had eight beers.
So like, I think it's more. I was a beef
jerky and salted goldfish, not the original goldfish, the plain
(34:27):
yep white ones. I love those, and I think they
were I would just have a handful every three holes
and some beef jerky, and I feel like that really
worked for me. But water intake, for sure, especially it's
so damn hot out there, you guys, like I can't
even go outside to walk my dog. It's so fucking
hot here. I can't do it anymore.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
The snacks that I was recommending were for like a
competition or a turn, Yeah exactly. But if you're going
out with your buddies, go have fun, like go drink
a beer, have the hot dog, like eat what you
want to have that Snickers bar, like it's okay. But
if you do really want to eat to fill your
body to help help you shoot lower scores, then what
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you are in taking is actually very important.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
What's the most important club to get fit for? Like,
let's say you can only afford to do one.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
That's a really hard question because let me just go
through all of them and why I think each one's
important because they're all different, and I think it's determined
on like what you're struggling with in your game. So
having a really great driver that's fit for you is
so important because most people are losing up to twenty
yards by having a driver that's not fit for them,
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and you will shoot lower scores, and we've seen this
with data. You will shoot lower scores if you hit
it farther, and you can drop your handicap easier if
you're hitting it just about ten yards farther. So that's
an easy way to fix your game. And also your
dispersion will also get better, so you'll be hitting for
more fairways. But if your irons aren't fit for you,
then you're going to struggle and you're not going to
hit any greens. And most people don't have a good
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enough short game to get through their round with only
hitting eight greens, and so having irons that fit for
you are so incre important. Most people struggle with their
short gams because they don't actually have wedges that fit
for them. Wedges are so neglected when it comes to
the fitting process, and it is actually one of the
more important clubs that you need to get fit for
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because everyone has a different attack angle and so the
bounce is going to be different for each person, and
a lot of people will dig or they'll hit shots
that they just can't hit because of their bounce does
not fit their swing. And so if you have wedges
that fit, you can actually hit off tight lines. You
can hit these shots that you've been struggling with because
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your wedges just were wrong for you. Having a putter,
I mean's the scoring clubs, so of course that you
want to have a putter that's fit for you. Having
really good woods, like a good three wood off the
tea is so vital and into par fives because most
people struggle with their three wood and they don't have
one that's fit for them. And it's like, once you do,
it's a game changer because if your driver struggling, then
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you hit your three wood off the team, you can
also go for part five. So they're all really important.
I mean, out of everything I said, which one would
you say is most important?
Speaker 3 (37:02):
I mean, if we're talking strictly like strokes per rounds
that you use the club for I would say putter
probably number one and then shortly behind number two. For
a weekend golfer, probably a sixty degree wedge, fifty six
degree wedge. I mean, and actually practicing it, I think
is also a key to this. That's what I would say.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
So what we're saying is all of the clubs are important,
so go and get fit for all of them. But
you could be driving it amazing and you're struggling with
your irons, And I would say one thing to look
out for is inconsistency across your club So if you
hit your driver really well and then you're missing your
woods left and your irons right, then that's a club
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fitting issue. That's not a swing issue. If you're missing
all of your clubs the consistent way, then that tends
to be more of a swing issue. But if there's
inconsistencies across your clubs with where you're missing them, that
is actually a fitting issue. And one thing that was
really interesting is Horsell came out. He said that the
loft and lies on his clubs were wrong and it's
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just a mistake of no one, just the wear and
tearor of traveling and playing with them. All the time,
the clubs will bend, and he was struggling with his
clubs because they were just a degree or two off.
And so again, it just shows you how small of
a change can make a massive difference. And that's someone
who gets their clubs looked at every single week. So
imagine what getting fit could do for you if you've
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never gotten fit before.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
We're like broken records. Maybe they'll listen to us one day.
Who knows, mother knows best golf? Mommy says, go get fit,
all right? Last question, how can I practice my lag, putting,
slash speed control? The number one thing that I did
when I was getting ready to go out and play
a golf course, no matter if it was a tournament
or playing on a Saturday, is find two holes that
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are thirty ish feet apart and just go back and
forth with two golf balls. Put two, don't worry about
making them, just try to get in a general vicinity
of the hole. Because I feel, I like short game
is very neglected when it comes to warm up. Everyone
just wants to take their nine nine and their driver
on the range and drink a few beers and talk
about how they're going to try to break a hundred
today with their friends and they go to the first
(39:11):
tea because they didn't realize it was their tea time
and they didn't get to putt, and it's a whole thing,
and it's like, dude, you literally the most strokes of
your golf round are your putting. Can you please start
taking putting seriously? Please? Yep, that was my rant no,
and I totally agree with you.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
And I think a lot of people struggle with being
able to practice putting because a driving range there's a
spot for everyone. For the most part, driving ranges are wide,
they're big, and they do that because most people go
when they practice their long game before they go to
their tea time. Most putting greens are quite small and
there aren't two holes available because everyone's crowded around and practicing.
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So what I like to do is use the caller.
And this drill is also on op so if you
want to go and see me walk you through it,
then you can go over to my subscription site. But
what you do is you have a golf ball and
you put it to the collar. You try to get
it as close as you possibly can without it going
past the collar, and you just go back and forth.
So it's essentially the same drill as what Sam said
(40:13):
is you go back and forth, you go back and forth.
But if you don't have a hole, you can still
put different spots on the putt and green and that
should never be an excuse. And I think sometimes that
is an excuse for people because they just don't want
to go practice in and like, oh, there's too many
people there, there's no room for me. No, there are
drills that you can do and you don't need an
open putt and green to do so. And I also
(40:34):
like to find an uphill and a downhill putt too,
to see how each one reacts before you go out
on the golf course, because you see this all the
time where people will three putt first couple holes. They're like, oh,
I didn't know the speed of the green. The putty
green was right there. It was right there available for
you to go and hit some putts, and you chose
not to do it. So you have to practice these
(40:54):
things to get better and Brant, this was a very
rancy episode.
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Speaker 2 (01:17):
Hello everyone, Welcome back to the Playing Round Podcast and
you are here with your two favorite golf girls, Sam
and Paige. And Sam, we have a lot to talk about.
It was a very interesting week in golf and so
let's just get right on into it. So I have
to say that I was sweating over the last couple
(01:41):
holes because I picked Russell Henley to win and it
was tight between him and Lucas Glover. And the first
thing we need to talk about the rule on divets.
Russell Henley got absolutely fucked over. And yes, you could say,
like if he hit the green or if he hit
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the fairway, then he wouldn't have to deal with these issues.
But he missed the green, landed in a divot the
size of a crater because everything would feedback in land
in the divot, and he didn't get up and down,
and then he got a horrendous lie on the next
hole where it plugged, well, it looked like a plugged
(02:23):
but it didn't, and then he had to like hack
it out. And on the flip side, Lucas Lever snap
hooked a drive on eighteen and it hits a cart,
hits a cart, it bounces all the way back and
it didn't matter in the end he won by two
but luck of the green. Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
So you've been very vocal about your rules disagreements in
the past, but I want to know what your proposed
fix is to this. Is it just like nearest point
or relief one club length like it is with a
cart path, or you can't have a whole club length
to improve your lie.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Just I think it's dearest point. And if you are
in the fairway and you land in a divot, you
should get free relief. That's it. So this rule wouldn't
apply to the shitty lie that Russell Henley had on
whole seventeen, but it could help them out on the
par three because everything keeps feeding back in and feeding
(03:22):
back in, and so they set these courses up to
trick up the players, and then on top of it,
they're all landing in the exact same divot. And at
some point it's just not fair. And you can say
life's not fair, Golf's not fair. It's just the rub
of the green. But I don't like that you hit
a good shot, you're in the fairway, you should get
relief from a divot.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yeah, And I think what's interesting about the divot situation
is like, is there not someone there fixing them as
they go. I understand that it still sucks, but like,
I don't understand how a divot is left untreated for
at a PGA Tour event.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
I guess I will say though, if I was in
Russell Henley's position and someone put the divot back into
the grass, back into the divot, or if they standed it,
that would have been a much more difficult shot. There's
nothing worse than when you have a chunk of grass
that they replace their divot with. Okay, it's the piece
(04:21):
of grass is the divot and the hole is the divot.
What do you call the divot? Dibbot? It's the divot
for the divot, Like, what do you call that thing?
You know, there's there's.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
A lot of people like amateurs who don't are just
learning golf who call Ballmark's dinnert.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
When you take a chunk, Yeah, when you take a
chunk of the grass, that's the chunk is the divot,
and the grass that flies is the divot. So you
put the divot back in the divot.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Anyway, I'm trying to explain this and I'm like, you
put divot.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
People are like just shut up, But this just makes sense.
But a sand and divot, or a divot that is
replaced in the it's impossible to hit from. It's so difficult.
So just a wide chunk of nothing is a much
easier shot than if it was sanded. So I'm glad
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they didn't fix it in Russell Henley's position. But anytime
you walk up and you look down in your balls
and a divot, it's just so deflating.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
And I think a lot of people say, you know,
we shouldn't change that rule because it's just is what
it is. Like. You know, my mom used to say
fairs are for fars, are for funnel cakes, like life's
not fair. But think about how few times you've landed
in a divot in your life? Like it doesn't happen
very often, I don't think, which is why I think
(05:47):
changing the rule. It's not like it would automate, automatically
make you improve by ten shots, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
It always happens when it shouldn't happen. That's where know
they know, the divots know, and I'm I'm praying to
the golf gods throughout my round. I'm fixing other people's ballmarks.
I'm fixing other people's dibts, and I still end up
in other in dibits. It does not make sense to me,
But I will say that it was really entertaining to
(06:14):
one watch Justin Thomas tried to make the playoffs and
then that back and forth between Lucas Glover and Russell Heinley.
Before we get into Lucas Glover, because we have a
lot to say about that, let's talk about JT not
making the Fedik Cup playoffs. So, first off, what has
happened to Justin Thomas. We've talked about this before and
(06:34):
we're both on the same page of it's golf. You
have the ups and the downs, but someone of Justin's caliber,
even when he is really struggling, should still be one
of the best seventy players in the world.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I know what happened. He got married, He got married,
he got married, he got a little perspective, had a
no Phone's wedding at Troubadour. The fuck is up and
hasn't made a cut. Actually, well, he made the cut,
but I don't know. I think we've talked about this before.
When you're searching, it's like the most demoralizing bullshit because
(07:11):
you just can't, like you can't find anything, and that
I feel like, I don't know, I feel for him.
I think he's one of my favorite players to watch.
I love how he's one of the few players who
I love watching his emotion and how he actually cares,
and like, you know, it's such a stark difference between
watching him and like a Patrick Cantley, who like has
never had an emotion on his face in his life.
(07:31):
And I love the fire in Justin Thomas, and I
think it's been it's been hard to watch. And I think,
did you see the chip on the eighteenth hole?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Chip on the eighteenth hole where he has to make
it He has to make birdie on eighteen to make
it into the playoffs, and he hits it left, has
this seventy yard hook around trees off of the pine straw,
hits an amazing shot. And then Justin Thomas, known for
one of the best short games on tour, hits this
(08:02):
incredible pitch shot, hits right in front, hits the pin.
I thought it was going in and just popped on out.
But when you're talking about Justin Thomas caring so much
and being so passionate and feisty. It's what makes him
so great, but it's also, I think the reason why
he is struggling so much right now. So I think
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that Amy Olsen put this perfectly where she said that
in golf, you have to practice every single day like
it is the most important thing in your entire life,
and you have to care so much. But then tournament
day comes around, you tee it up and you have
to play like you don't care one bit. And it's
such a really difficult dynamic with golf because it is
(08:46):
so mental, and you're seeing a player like Justin Thomas
who cares so deeply and he works so incredibly hard
and he's doing everything he possibly can, and when it's
going well, you have that confidence. But when one thing
starts to go wrong, I write an article where he's not.
He's really changed up his diet and he's doing everything
he can to get back to that level. It's almost
(09:07):
like the more you put into it and the more
you care, the harder it is to perform under pressure.
And I think that's what we're seeing because he does
care so much and he is so passionate about what
he does, and you see a player like a Dustin
Johnson or they always say Brooks, yeah, Brooks, where they
try to like play with no care at all, like
(09:28):
no worries in their mind, nothing at all. You have
to go out there. And I've even seen this, and
this is something that I really struggled with when I
was playing competitively, especially in college golf, when I would
see people get absolutely trashed the night before a tournament
and then go out there and shoot a sixty six.
And I'm grinding, I'm trying to eat while I'm working out,
doing everything I need to be doing, and then I
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absolutely blow it on tournament day. And that is so
demoralizing to see that and say, like I'm doing everything
I possibly can, it should be working. And golf is
one of those sports where it's almost the opposite. When
you're not properly conditioned or you're not taking care of
your body, it's going to show up in other sports,
but with golf not always the truth.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
I could not agree more. And I think one of
the things that I always noticed when playing was like
when it was really raining or when it was super
windy and your mind is so focused on something else.
I've always tended to play better because I'm so not
focused on what score, Like where I'm at on my scorecard,
what I'm thinking about in my swing. I'm trying to
stay dry, keep all my towels under the umbrella. But like,
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how do you train yourself to care less? You need
to do that.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I need to do that, trust me a bunch of
sports psychologists, and still it never helped. We can talk
about this all day long, but we all know that
Justin Thomas is going to make the Ryder Cup.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Do you think so?
Speaker 2 (10:47):
I think so.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
If I was another player, I'd be pissed. Who played
a lot. I would be fucking missed. I don't know.
As much as I love Justin Thomas and the Ryder Cup,
I think I will think less of Zach Johnson if
he picks him.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Really, I think that's a hot take. Explain.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I don't think he's worthy of it this year. Like
if you look at the if you look at the
people who if it wasn't Captain's picks and it was
just the next six people who would have qualified on play,
he's like seventieth on that list.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Like literally, well actually seventy first.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Well yeah, good one. But yeah, I don't know. I
think I don't think it will be the right move.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Do you think there's some merit to be take that?
Within the Ryder Cup, having great team camaraderie and having
someone who is a fiery, feisty player almost eliminates bad
play of the entire year because you would see on
the European team where they would bring certain players in
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who really weren't playing their best, but they would turn
it up and they could bring it when it counted
during the Ryder Cup because they were great match play players.
Is that something that you're looking at Justin Thomas? I
would say from the camarader aspect, yes, because everyone loves
Justin Thomas and I think he would add so much
(12:05):
to the team atmosphere. But when I think of great
Ryder Cup players, Justin Thomas is not the first person
that pops into my mind.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
I mean, he's the first person I think of when
I think of like the celebration photos with Tiger and
things like that. But like at that point, just make
him a volunteer assistant and have him drive a golf cart,
like if it's about the camaraderie, like he'll still be
in the locker room. Still, I don't know, we could
go in a whole rabbit hole about that.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
The last thing I'll say is my only issue with it,
is that I do think that Justin Thomas will be
on the team, and I can see all the reasons
why he will potentially be on the team. But if
I am a player who is having the year of
my career and this is probably my only Ryder Cup
opportunity and they pick Justin Thomas over someone who is
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actually playing extremely well right now and they will never
play in a Ryder Cup, I would be very frustrated
if I was that player. That's a tough beat, for sure.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
I agree, and that'll be interesting.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
So we got to get into this Lucas Glover situation
because it was a very interesting one. So after Lucas
Glover won, his daughter was bawling hysterically, and Lucas Glover
got very emotional, and he had this amazing interview with
Amanda and he was talking about how this means so
(13:28):
much to him because he's been playing really bad this
year and he just hasn't been able to see his
kids that often. And so I was really touched by that,
really touched by that, and I was thinking, I'm like,
how bad has Lucas Glover been playing this year that
you can't even see your kids, like you were on
the road every single week and you have to make money.
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So I looked and he's been on tour since his
twentieth year on tour. His total career earnings is thirty
point five million dollars, and this season alone he has
made two point five million dollars.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
He's played in twenty five events, made fourteen cuts, four
top tens, five top twenty fives. I mean, what is
going on here? The daughter crying threw me off to
begin with. Maybe it's my aversion to kids. And then secondly,
I don't know what are they spending? Are they did
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he spend it all already?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
But the whole Lucas Glover situation is giving the same
energy as James Han when he was complaining how he
couldn't fly back to see his daughter start the first
day of school and all these parents working multiple jobs
and barely you know, making it buy And James Han
made at that point like twelve million dollars throughout his career,
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and you're looking at Lucas Glover and I know he
just won, and that was probably a big chunk of
the two point five million dollars, but he was still
making a ton of money before he got this win,
and so it's like it almost it always ruined the
moment for me when I found that out. It's like,
sometimes you look at these pros and I'm sure we
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all have our own issues, and no matter how much
money you have, there are still things that people are
battling every single day. And I understand that, but.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Calm a butt, But like, come on, come.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
On, I think it's just a little insensitive to say
that given your financial position and knowing what other people
are going through and what they have to go through,
Like some people don't even see their kids at all
because they are working multiple jobs and they're gone in
the morning and they're gone at night, and they're trying
just to get by. And it's like, come on, Lucas Lover, like,
I know this means a lot to you, and I'm
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supportive and I like you, but it just came off
a little insensitive to me.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Well, all I have to say is that I bet
his wife was happy after he won, because I remember
a time where she was Remember this, I.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Think you need to run through Lucas Glover's timeline because
it is a wild one, and I'm not sure a
lot of people remember.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
This, so I remember it, and then I went down
a rabbit hole, and I don't remember all of this
shit that I'm about to tell you. I don't remember
the details being that out there. And this was when
I worked at Golf Channel, so I feel like I
should have known at this point.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
So okay, set it up for us, Sam, what year
we in?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
We are in twenty nineteen? It's May twenty nineteen, and
ponavidri Beach at the Players Championship.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
It was twenty nineteen, twenty nineteen. It wasn't even a
long ago. I thought this happened in like twenty fifteen.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
No, And the best part is that at this point
in his career, when this event happened, he had made
twenty million dollars. Okay, just keep that in mind, and
his whole career earnings. And that's just on course. That's
not giving sponsors like all that, you know, appearance on
his hat, all that shit. Okay. Christa is the wife's name.
(17:03):
After the third round at the Players in twenty nineteen,
Lucas Glover shot a seventy eight. Christa Glover was arrested.
On a domestic violence charge after she reportedly became upset
and quote forcefully attacked Lucas after he shot seventy eight.
This is all like quotes from the court documents. I'm
(17:26):
not even exaggerating this. She showered Lucas with insults, called
him a pussy and a loser, then resorted to physical violence.
She told him that Lucas needs to fire everyone, and
he would and he better win or she and the
kids would leave him and he would never see them again.
So then this whole thing goes down. She's hitting him
(17:46):
right and and his mom. Okay, she's like in a
physical altercation with Lucas and his sixty three year old
mother at the time, Christa calls nine to one one
and says she's being attacked by Lucas's mom. Lucas grabs
the phone and is like, that's not true. She's lying,
Like both of these women are out of their minds.
(18:07):
Then he said, then this is like a fucking I'm serious.
Then he tells the police, my wife has gone crazy
and she's trying to blame it on my mom, but
it's really her. Keep in mind, this is happening at
their rental house in panavidre Beach, Florida, after he had
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just played three rounds at the Fucking Players a year
before the Chainsmokers. This was not that long ago, Okay,
So apparently Lucas and his mom both had visible injuries
like bruises and cuts, and there was blood on his
mom's shirt, so like, this was not just a little.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Like I don't remember it being like this. I don't either.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
So she was charged with battery and resisting an officer.
And then when she was in the back of a
cop car, she goes to the cops. Wait till the
tour here about this. You will lose your job. This
is why cops get shot in the face. Wait till
I talk to a judge. You will be fucking fired
over this. In quotes in the court documents, that's what
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she said. Then then what happens, Sam, I can't believe
there's more then a report. You know, they have to
like investigate and talk to Lucas and talk to the
mom and do the whole due diligence thing. Lucas said
that his wife regularly yells at him when he plays bad.
And then after that, this is how I found out
about it, because Lucas tweeted. He came out with like
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a statement and said that it was a private matter.
Everyone's fine, and it would be handled in private. Then
Christa did twenty five hours of community service and her
case was thrown out, and it's just all no and void.
Now what.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I remember this situation and I remember seeing her mugshot,
but I didn't realize it was that bad. And domestic
violence is no joke on either side. And I don't
think that people talk about the abuse that of most
men face in their w relationships, and it's never really
fully brought to light. And I want to be very
serious about this moment because people don't talk about this
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and think about if it was reversed and what would
have happened and what would have transpired. They're still together.
He mentioned in the post conference talk with Amanda that
he was like, my wife couldn't be here today, like
say hi to mom, like all this stuff. He like
pointed it out that they are like still together, and
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it's insane. It's insane, it's scary.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
I think, like you said, it's not talked about. A
lot of issues aren't talked about, various issues when it
would have been the other gender or would have been
a different person. And I think that the fact that
I literally worked for Golf Channel as someone who wrote
articles about this shit and I did not know any
of this is crazy. And I don't know. I think that,
(20:54):
like you said when you were looking up his career,
he's been a lot more accessful than I thought he was.
I mean, there's not that many guys on tour that
have made over thirty million, Like, there's just not I mean,
he has like.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
A Charles Howell, a third career. It's going right in
a sneak career, sneak a good career. Yeah, that's insane.
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I think there's a ton of issues that happen with
men that we don't fully talk about enough. And I
don't mean to like totally change the subject, but when
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we to the Barbie movie, this was actually a conversation
that we had where it was all about how women
feel like they have to be everything all the time
to everyone, and no one ever discusses the fact that
men also feel those pressures. They have to look a
certain way, they have to act a certain way, they
can't be too emotional, but they have to show some emotion.
(22:21):
They have to be all these things all the time,
and it's exhausting. It's exhausting. And then there's issues that
happen like this that don't fully get talked about, and
it's difficult, Like it is difficult. And I hope that
you know, we have a male dominated audience, and I
think growing up in golf, which is very male dominated,
(22:43):
we do see that side a little bit more, and
I wish people talked about it.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Yeah, it's scary what goes on behind closed doors, and
like we talk about all the time, you never know
what somebody is going through. And the more compassionate kindness
you can show mostly online because I feel like that's
where people get, you know, their big boy britches on
and think they can say whatever they want. It's just
you never know what people are going through and that
is the moral of the story here.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
So then, learning from my mistakes, maybe it wasn't insensitive
that Lucas Glover was crying, and good for him for
showing his emotions. And then it meant a lot too, because,
like we said, you don't know what's going on behind
closed doors, and he again, you don't know. I don't
want to speculate anything, but he was very emotional for
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a reason. It meant a lot to him. So good
on Lucas Glover. Something that was really cool that happened
was Bryce in d Schambeau shot a fifty eight to
win the live event. I tweeted this, most people can't
even shoot at fifty eight in a four man scramble
with mulligans, and a bunch of people were commenting, They're like,
(23:52):
I've shot lower, and I'm like, yeah, you're cheating, You're cheating.
But the fact that still four people all of their
best shots and you still can't shoot a fifty eight.
I don't care where you are, what course you're on,
from what distance. A fifty eight is so fucking good.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
It's crazy, and I think it. I mean, first thing
I'll say is if he shot at fifty eight and
no one saw, it doesn't really count. But it's just
a little joke. I had to get in there. I
do think I was a little bit sad that I
didn't hear anything about it or see anything about it
until he had already made the putt to shoot fifty eight.
Like I would have loved to watch that live golf
PGA Tour. I don't give a shit. I would have
(24:33):
loved to tune in and see that.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Right.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
A couple interesting facts about his fifty eight. He had
a bogie. Okay, that's crazy. I mean we did see
Jerry Kelly shooting fifty eight, but he did. And talk
about times when you don't care. I don't think he
could have cared less about how he was playing, and
he was just firing them off that day.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Bryceon also played with a long drive driver, the Crank
Golf driver. They that brand has won over twenty five
World long drive Championships.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
That's crazy, but that makes sense because I was looking
at his what's in the bag and it was like
his long driver and his short driver, and I'm like, what, what?
What is a short driver? Why do you have a
long driver a short driver? So that checks out. Thanks
for clarifying that for me.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Some things you could have kept to yourself. You know
what I think is interesting, which is very timely. We
have been on only page telling you guys about games
you can play on the golf course by yourself with
friends this summer, and one that we just uploaded was
playing the front tees and how both of us in
college played that all the time.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
This for years, for years.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
And guess what Bryson said his key to success?
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Can you finish your thought because I'm gonna ran, I'm
gonna I'm gonna rant after this, so you continue.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
He said that his key to success was and has
been playing the front tees because he's comfortable making a
shit ton of birdies. That's literally what he said after
And then I was like, huh, that's a bit funny,
isn't it.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
The fact that that we foreshadow everything, Yes, and that
we have been saying this for years four years. Sam
and I have both played at a very high level.
We didn't make it for our own personal reasons, but
we're really cute. So we've we've discussed if people would
(26:27):
just listen to what we're saying, they would be so
much better off. Now. It's a huge story that Bryson
is like I puted from the Red Teeth.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
I have been telling you that for years, the amount
of retweets that I saw men being like, Oh, I'm
gonna do it now, like do as I.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Say, Do as I say.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Listen first time what we are telling you, because we
know our stuff, and it's getting.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
To the point where I'm tired of downplaying our ability.
I'm tired of it. And we are fucking good. We
have played at such a high level, we have worked
with some of the best coaches in the world, and
we know what we're talking about. Listen to us. You're
(27:18):
going to improve if you listen to us. And I
see these guys on the internet following people who can't
break ninety five, and we are here giving you quality information,
everything that we have learned and absorbed in our years
(27:38):
of playing. We are giving it to you for free,
for free. It drives me insane. That really bothered me
because I'm like we have been saying that, We've always
been saying that. We've talked about this multiple times on
this podcast, on YouTube channel, on op that is just
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a game that you should do to shoot lower scores.
It is such a good game to do.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Deep breaths.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I mean, it's frustrating.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
No, it is. I was gonna.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Let you I'm good, I'm good, I'm good.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
I was gonna let the high pitched rant go on
as long as it did to Yeah, I think, uh,
I think you're right, and I think, you know, maybe
everybody will come around one day realize that we're not idiots.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
It's like when we tell people to go get fitted.
You how many times I've told people to go to
Club Champion and go get fit for your clubs. That
buying off the rack is such a waste of money.
You're not going to get the performance that you're looking
for out of your golf club. So just go and
get fit. And every time someone listens to me, the
messages I get back is like I've gained fifty yards,
(28:52):
I've done this, I've done this, and like I know,
I know, you know. What I've started to do to
get people to listen to me is someone called me
their golf mommy, and so I have now become golf
mommy on Instagram, and so as their mother, I'm telling
them what they should be doing, and they listen, and
(29:15):
they listen. They're finally listening to their golf mommy. So,
as your golf mommy, go to Club Champion and go
get fit for your clubs. And because we all love
a good discount, you can use my code page.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
We're going to rapid fire through five golf questions we
were asked on the Instagram account last night. Number one,
which I think this is an interesting question. Our blade
or mallet putters better? It depends on your putting stroke.
I also think better is just not a word you
can use here. We've talked about this before. A lot
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of the time, if you don't like what you're looking
down at, forget it. That's why people change putters a lot,
is because they get fatigue of looking down at the
same putter all the time. Or you have people like
Tiger who use the same and style for their whole lives.
So do you think it's fair to say that there's
not a better or worse No. I think it comes
down to your stroke and what's most important? Are you
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face balanced? Is it toe hang?
Speaker 2 (30:12):
What does the shape of the hozzle look like? These
are all things that really actually do come into play
on what makes a good putter for you, because you
could really like something but it might not be the
best putter for you. But when it comes to putting,
it's such an individualized experience where you could play a
putter that's not fair for you, that doesn't like you
(30:34):
should be playing something totally different. But if you have
confidence with it and you're putting well with it and
you can make it work, then it's one club that's
completely different than any other club in your bag. And
I still recommend going to get fit because I do
think a lot of people are playing the wrong putter
for them and they're having a potter with toe hang
and need one with face balance, And then they're like,
why am I missing them all this way or that way.
(30:55):
I'm like, well, it's because it is of your putter,
but no, it's what looks good to your eye. There's
not one is not better than the other. I do recommend, though,
when you do get a new putter, to stick with
it for a little bit, because I do see people
changing their putters up quite constantly, and I think that's
also a mental issue that they have when it comes
to putting. Stick with it and get through the good
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times and the bad times, like think of your putter
as a marriage. Well, I can't speak on that. Let's
go the next question.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Oh god, I'm dead. Okay, what's your favorite drill to
learn better tempo?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I'm putting or full swing?
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Full swing?
Speaker 2 (31:33):
My favorite drill for tempo is the stop at the
top drill. Tiger Woods came out and he said that
this was a drill that he used when he was
playing his best golf and it's so simple and so easy,
but it really does help you. So you swing up
to the top of your swing, hold it for a second,
and then you come down. It sinks everything up. Most
people rush it from the top and everything is out
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of sync where their hips are going first, with hands
are going first, and so when you stop at the
top to be able to make contact, everything just has
to come through smoothly. And as the best drill that
has worked for me for tempo, how about you, I.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Would say, if we're if you're talking about more just
to get the feeling, I would say swinging with two
clubs in your hands, or getting one of those little
swing weights off Amazon that are two or three pounds
and putting it down by the club head. I think
getting yourself to really get in the motion and used
to slowing down mostly in your backswing, and when you
use heavier clubs, that's not going to allow you to
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cast it up here get really fast at the top
of your swing. I would say, that's something that I
always did. And then I mean, if you do have
the means too. If I could recommend one training aid,
it would be the orange whip for the tempo. I
literally loved my orange whip. Took that thing everywhere, So
that's what I would say. What kind of snacks do
you like to bring on the golf course? People are
looking for snack ideas multiple people actually.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
So I would say most people will go for a
hot dog at the turn, which is a delicious snack.
But when I was playing competitively, you want to keep
your energy and you don't want to have an insane
burst of energy, So you don't want to have a
sugar spike or a caffeine spike because within golf you
want to stay as level as possible, and so sometimes
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when you have too much caffeine or too much sugar,
you can get a little bit jittery, which can affect
your putting. So I like snacks like a peanut butter
and banana sandwich. You can do a peeb and j
anything with some protein as well, So you can do
a protein drink, a nice trail mix that has, you know,
like unsalted almonds and really things that are a bit
(33:33):
boring or bland. But when you're trying to keep your
energy and your focus for such a long period of time,
anything like my favorite trail mix is like adding some
dried fruit almonds. You can add some dark chocolate to
that if you want, like a little bit of a
kick of sugar. A peanut butter banana sandwich, and then
a protein bar and a protein shake, and you want
(33:55):
to try to nibble at least every three holes and
drink a ton of water, and that way you're going
to be hydrated, feeling good, your energy's going to be consistent.
But eating every three holes is really the way to go.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
That's the key that I was going to say was
I think it's less about what it is and more
about the consistency throughout. Because the people who just eat
a big ass hot dog on whole number ten is
like good luck, and then you're gonna want to go
to sleep after the round because you've also had eight beers.
So like, I think it's more. I was a beef
jerky and salted goldfish, not the original goldfish, the plain
(34:27):
yep white ones. I love those, and I think they
were I would just have a handful every three holes
and some beef jerky, and I feel like that really
worked for me. But water intake, for sure, especially it's
so damn hot out there, you guys, like I can't
even go outside to walk my dog. It's so fucking
hot here. I can't do it anymore.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
The snacks that I was recommending were for like a
competition or a turn, Yeah exactly. But if you're going
out with your buddies, go have fun, like go drink
a beer, have the hot dog, like eat what you
want to have that Snickers bar, like it's okay. But
if you do really want to eat to fill your
body to help help you shoot lower scores, then what
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you are in taking is actually very important.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
What's the most important club to get fit for? Like,
let's say you can only afford to do one.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
That's a really hard question because let me just go
through all of them and why I think each one's
important because they're all different, and I think it's determined
on like what you're struggling with in your game. So
having a really great driver that's fit for you is
so important because most people are losing up to twenty
yards by having a driver that's not fit for them,
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and you will shoot lower scores, and we've seen this
with data. You will shoot lower scores if you hit
it farther, and you can drop your handicap easier if
you're hitting it just about ten yards farther. So that's
an easy way to fix your game. And also your
dispersion will also get better, so you'll be hitting for
more fairways. But if your irons aren't fit for you,
then you're going to struggle and you're not going to
hit any greens. And most people don't have a good
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enough short game to get through their round with only
hitting eight greens, and so having irons that fit for
you are so incre important. Most people struggle with their
short gams because they don't actually have wedges that fit
for them. Wedges are so neglected when it comes to
the fitting process, and it is actually one of the
more important clubs that you need to get fit for
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because everyone has a different attack angle and so the
bounce is going to be different for each person, and
a lot of people will dig or they'll hit shots
that they just can't hit because of their bounce does
not fit their swing. And so if you have wedges
that fit, you can actually hit off tight lines. You
can hit these shots that you've been struggling with because
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your wedges just were wrong for you. Having a putter,
I mean's the scoring clubs, so of course that you
want to have a putter that's fit for you. Having
really good woods, like a good three wood off the
tea is so vital and into par fives because most
people struggle with their three wood and they don't have
one that's fit for them. And it's like, once you do,
it's a game changer because if your driver struggling, then
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you hit your three wood off the team, you can
also go for part five. So they're all really important.
I mean, out of everything I said, which one would
you say is most important?
Speaker 3 (37:02):
I mean, if we're talking strictly like strokes per rounds
that you use the club for I would say putter
probably number one and then shortly behind number two. For
a weekend golfer, probably a sixty degree wedge, fifty six
degree wedge. I mean, and actually practicing it, I think
is also a key to this. That's what I would say.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
So what we're saying is all of the clubs are important,
so go and get fit for all of them. But
you could be driving it amazing and you're struggling with
your irons, And I would say one thing to look
out for is inconsistency across your club So if you
hit your driver really well and then you're missing your
woods left and your irons right, then that's a club
(37:43):
fitting issue. That's not a swing issue. If you're missing
all of your clubs the consistent way, then that tends
to be more of a swing issue. But if there's
inconsistencies across your clubs with where you're missing them, that
is actually a fitting issue. And one thing that was
really interesting is Horsell came out. He said that the
loft and lies on his clubs were wrong and it's
(38:06):
just a mistake of no one, just the wear and
tearor of traveling and playing with them. All the time,
the clubs will bend, and he was struggling with his
clubs because they were just a degree or two off.
And so again, it just shows you how small of
a change can make a massive difference. And that's someone
who gets their clubs looked at every single week. So
imagine what getting fit could do for you if you've
(38:29):
never gotten fit before.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
We're like broken records. Maybe they'll listen to us one day.
Who knows, mother knows best golf? Mommy says, go get fit,
all right? Last question, how can I practice my lag, putting,
slash speed control? The number one thing that I did
when I was getting ready to go out and play
a golf course, no matter if it was a tournament
or playing on a Saturday, is find two holes that
(38:50):
are thirty ish feet apart and just go back and
forth with two golf balls. Put two, don't worry about
making them, just try to get in a general vicinity
of the hole. Because I feel, I like short game
is very neglected when it comes to warm up. Everyone
just wants to take their nine nine and their driver
on the range and drink a few beers and talk
about how they're going to try to break a hundred
today with their friends and they go to the first
(39:11):
tea because they didn't realize it was their tea time
and they didn't get to putt, and it's a whole thing,
and it's like, dude, you literally the most strokes of
your golf round are your putting. Can you please start
taking putting seriously? Please? Yep, that was my rant no,
and I totally agree with you.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
And I think a lot of people struggle with being
able to practice putting because a driving range there's a
spot for everyone. For the most part, driving ranges are wide,
they're big, and they do that because most people go
when they practice their long game before they go to
their tea time. Most putting greens are quite small and
there aren't two holes available because everyone's crowded around and practicing.
(39:51):
So what I like to do is use the caller.
And this drill is also on op so if you
want to go and see me walk you through it,
then you can go over to my subscription site. But
what you do is you have a golf ball and
you put it to the collar. You try to get
it as close as you possibly can without it going
past the collar, and you just go back and forth.
So it's essentially the same drill as what Sam said
(40:13):
is you go back and forth, you go back and forth.
But if you don't have a hole, you can still
put different spots on the putt and green and that
should never be an excuse. And I think sometimes that
is an excuse for people because they just don't want
to go practice in and like, oh, there's too many
people there, there's no room for me. No, there are
drills that you can do and you don't need an
open putt and green to do so. And I also
(40:34):
like to find an uphill and a downhill putt too,
to see how each one reacts before you go out
on the golf course, because you see this all the
time where people will three putt first couple holes. They're like, oh,
I didn't know the speed of the green. The putty
green was right there. It was right there available for
you to go and hit some putts, and you chose
not to do it. So you have to practice these
(40:54):
things to get better and Brant, this was a very
rancy episode.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
I hope you guys enjoyed it as well. Thank you
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