March 2, 2023 • 41 mins
Paige takes this episode to answer your questions about her facts of life, including her backstory, why she does what she does, ways in which she keeps herself happy, LIV, and more!
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Allow everyone, welcome back to the Playing Round podcast. I'm
your host Page Renee, and we're going to be doing
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a Q and A episode today. We haven't done this
in a little bit, so I think it's gonna be
a lot of fun. Unfortunately, Sam lost her voice when
we were in Chicago. It was a very hectic couple
days of work morning till night. I was at the
Chicago Golf Show on Saturday and Sunday and also did
shoots with X Golf and it was Mayhem at the
Chicago Golf Show I've never been there before. The only
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time I've done something like that was the PGA show
in Orlando, and this was vastly different. This is open
to the public, and the setup was really cool. But
I'm starting to see the impact that I'm having, which
is it's been overwhelming in a positive way. Because before
I can almost live a double life where I had
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followers online, but in my private life I could walk
around and you really do anything I wanted and never
be recognized or noticed. But I would say in the
last year and a half it really switched over after
I was named the Sexiest Woman Alive by Maxim that
I started to get recognized a lot everywhere, and of
course certain places I expect if I'm on the golf
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course or a sporting event that's kind of my main demographic.
But now I'll be at like a restaurant or a
grocery store or at the airport, and people are coming
up to me now, and it's really interesting because a
lot of the first thing they say is I listen
to the podcast, and I love when people say that,
or they'll be like, you taught me how to do
a flop shot or a bunker shot, and they pick
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out these really specific things that are the most meaningful
to me, Like I love when people listen to the podcast,
and I love when people watch my golf instruction. And
that's the number one thing that they say most people
say when they come up and meet me for the
first time. And it's always nice to put a face
to the name because I don't really get to I
get to interact with a lot of you, but it's
just different when you're able to connect with someone one
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on one, you face to face. And so Chico Golf
Show was awesome. But I'm really excited to get into
this Q and A and let's just do it. So
the first question is do you usually play from the
whites at most courses. I think a lot of people
expect women to play from the front tis. I mean
they literally call them the women's teas, the red teas.
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And sometimes I'll play from the front ties. And this
is one tip drill they actually tell people to do
all the time. If you want to start getting comfortable
shooting lower scores, play from the front ties. So start
from the fronties. And if you can't shoot part under
from there, then you probably shouldn't move back. But if
you consistently can shoot underpar from the front ties, then
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you can move back to the next ties, and then
we can shoot underpart from those teas. Then you can
move back and you just go from there until you're
shooting another apart from the tips. But most people have
these mental barriers and they can't break through. And you
see a lot of people where they're having the round
of their life and then they go triple bogie bogie
or double double double on the last holes or the
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back nine because they're not used to going low. They're
not comfortable being in that situation. So when you play
from the front ties, it should be a little bit
easier because the course is shorter, which means you have
more wedges in. But people realize that that's where they're
struggling because most people don't practice their short game and
their wedges that much, and so this is a great
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drill to do when you're trying to get comfortable shooting
lower scores. To work on your short game is play
from the front ties. The teas that I play from
kind of all over. If I want to have more
of a relaxed, fun round, I'll play up. If I
am just you know, playing my normal teas, it's usually
one in front of the tips. If I'm playing with
a bunch of dudes, then I'll play from whatever teas
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they want to play from, and most of the time
it's from the tips, and so I'll just kind of
mix and match and play wherever. And I think that's okay.
Like you can play different tea boxes and even on
some holes even during the round if you don't want
to play from the tips on all of them, or
if you want to play up on some do it.
Make the course whatever you want to make it. And
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I think that that makes it so much more fun
because there are certain holes that just set up better
as like a reagionable part four or a two sharp
part five, or you want to stretch it out and
make it a difficult part four. Like you can play
the course differently all the time, and so if you're
at your home course and you play the same teas
all the time, I want to challenge you to play
different teas and mix it up and play the course
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so many different ways, and it actually turns it into
a completely different golf course. It's one of my favorite
things to do. Next question is will you be at
the page Spranic bubble Head Day at the Brewers game
this June. Yes, I will be there. We had such
an amazing time. The last time I was at the
Brewers Stadium, I threw out the first pitch and unfortunately
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went viral for being body shaped. So hopefully this time
goes better, and maybe I'll bring like a whole lighting
crew out with me so I look the best that
I can. But jokes aside, I'm really excited to go back.
I think I'm throwing up the first pitch again. Hopefully
I won't be as nervous as last time. I was terrified,
shaking like a leaf. I pounded like two tequila shots
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before I went out there because I was so nervous.
I didn't want to go viral for like a fifty
cent type first pitch throw, and luckily I didn't do that,
but I then had to deal with all of those
other blind shaving issues. But I'm really excited to go back.
That whole crew is so incredibly nice. Everyone there was
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so sweet and it's going to be really great. So
if you are in the area around the area, you
guys can come out and we're doing a big event
at the ex Gulf there in Brewer Stadium, giving away
bubble heads, doing the first pitch, all of that good stuff.
So I'm very excited for that again. Hopefully I'll be
less nervous the last time. Next question, is one thing
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you would give ad advice to the teenage version of you.
This is a really great question. I think that I'm
a real people pleaser, and I have learned to overcome
that through the years of maturity and just dealing with
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people not liking you, even though you're doing everything you
possibly can to make them like you, and it puts
so much pressure on yourself and it stresses you out.
And so I think I would tell teenage me to
just not give a shit, to not really care. You
don't need the popular people to like you. You don't
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need to seek validation from boys, you don't need to
seek validation from anyone. It's taken me, again, like I said,
years to find this inner confidence. It's also taken me
years of therapy to also come to the realization that
I love myself and I'm confident in who I am
and to not let anyone else bring me down. I
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think that's something that we can all learn from, is
that you can be so nice to people and do
everything in your power to be a good person and
they still might not like you, and that's okay. And
why are you chasing validation from someone who doesn't even
like you? It doesn't make sense. I used to do
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that growing up, especially as a teenager with boys all
the time. If they didn't like me, it almost made
the chase more enticing, and I was just setting myself
up for heartbreak and failure. And I had to learn
that you set the standard, you know, like, that's okay,
Like you need to set hire standards for yourself, and
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you should only let people in who one want to
be your friend or a partner, whatever it may be.
As this applies to everything in your life, romantic, personal relationships,
business relationships. Why do you seek out people who have
no interest in you? And this has helped me and
like I said, my personal life and also my professional life,
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I only want to work with people who understand me
and my business. And what I'm trying to create as
well in my personal life is having friends, family partners
around who just love me for me and not trying
to change or feeling like I have to change who
I am. And so I think that would be. The
big advice I'd give to teenage version of myself is
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set your standards, hie, love yourself, be confident who you are,
and don't seek validation for people who just don't like you.
Do you wish you played on the LPGA Tour? Yes,
I always wanted to be a professional athlete, and it
kills me to this day that I never made it,
especially because I was a competitive gymnast growing up and
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I was competing on a really high level. I wanted
to go to the Olympics, but with gymnastics there's an
age restriction, so you have to be sixteen or turning
sixteen in the year at the Olympics, and the first
year I would have been eligible was eighteen, which is
past your prime. I also fractured my kneecap twice and
just didn't have the right body build. I'm a bit
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taller and needing to be short and strong, and I
just it's not my body type. And so once I
quit gymnastics, which was a really hard decision. I was
twelve at the time. My whole identity was gymnastics and
being known as you know Page, a gymnast, and Page
is gonna go the Olympics, and it's really hard to
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give that up. And so I sat around with my
family and I said, what can I be good at?
What sport can I turn pro in? And first we
tried tennis because my aunt, she was a professional tennis player.
She came out put me through bootcamp, and I was like,
not for me. I wish I stuck with it, because
I think I would have actually been a better tennis
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player than a golfer. But it was just a little
too similar to gymnastics, and I needed a big change.
I didn't come from a golf family, but my dad
played recreationally, and so he took me out and he
said that I'm a bit more introverted and shine. He
thought that golf would be a good fit for me,
and I fell in love with it right away. And
so from the first golf ball I hit, I dedicated
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everything I had to being a pro golfer. I was homeschooled.
I practiced every single day morning till night. It was
my only goal. I was a highly read junior golfer.
And then at eighteen, I had to make the decision
to go to college or to turn pro, and everyone
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told me that I needed to go to college to
get a little bit more experienced personal life experience and
also playing experience and playing on a team in a
different environment. And because I was homeschool I thought it
was a good idea. I went to University of Arizona
first and then just wasn't the right fit for me,
so I transferred over to San Diego State University. So
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many growing pains, so many growing pains I was burnt
out of I wouldn't say golf, but just dedicating my
life to something and not really seeing the results. So
with gymnastics it was hard because I was fighting injuries,
and then with golf. Golf is such an interesting sport
because you can work out, eat right, practice and still
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not achieve your goals. And that was something for me
that I just couldn't wrap my head around. And it
also went against everything that my parents ever told me,
because I come from two athletes, and they always said
if you put the work in and you dedicate your
life to something, you will be successful. But that just
wasn't happening with golf, and I was driving myself crazy
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because I felt like I should be achieving at a
much higher level and I had the athletic ability, and
every coach that I worked with said, you're going to
be a top five player in the world. I had
amazing hands, great body awareness, the power of the speed.
I had everything to be a world class golfer. But
I just couldn't put it together and I didn't know why,
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and it was driving me insane, actually insane, and I
just got to the point where I just stopped caring.
I wanted to have more of a social life. I
wanted to have fun. I was tired of dedicating my
life to something and just not seeing the results. So
when I was playing at STSU, I just lost my
desire for it. And my senior year, the last turn
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it was Regionals in Utah, which is so funny because
Sam was playing with Arkansas at that same tournament. I'll
have to talk about that the next episode. We just
found that out, and I remember going up the eighteenth
hole being so incredibly happy because I didn't have to
play golf anymore, and I was gonna put the clubs away.
I just didn't want to do it anymore. So the
clubs went away for about two weeks and I started
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to miss it, and so I was talking to my
parents and they said what do you want to do?
You know you needed to get I had one more
semester I had to finish with school, so I was
going to go back and be the assistant coach at
STSU and they were going to cover the last semester
for me, and then we also decided that maybe I
can turn pro. And there were so many ways that
my life was going at that time, and none of
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it was clear. So I sat down, as was the
summer before the last semester, and my dad said, let's
just give it to go. Let's give the summer a
go and then we can. You can practice and play
as you're being the assistant coach, and that's it did.
So I decided that that's what I was going to do.
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I was playing really well, and then my whole life
flipped upside down. I blew up on social media. I
didn't end up going back to be the assistant coach.
I didn't even finish my last semester of college. I
never got my degree, which is something that's so crazy
and I've actually never talked about that. I was like
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two credits shore of getting my degree and I never
got it. And like I said, my whole life changed
I then got the invite to go play in Dubai.
I blew up there, did one whole year of playing
golf professionally and just was mentally exhausted, exhausted, and golf
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you fail more than you succeed. And I was doing
that in the public eye, and everyone was telling me
you should quit, you should give up, You're not good,
all of these things. And I was already dealing with
these mental issues of years and years and years of
trying so hard and coming up short. And I just broke.
I honestly cracked. I broke, and I just stopped. I
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said maybe I'll go back, and I've never gone back
to try to play golf professionally again. It keeps me
up at night, to be honest, because I feel like
a failure and it's really difficult for me to wrap
my head around the fact that I never made it
now as a gymnast, as a tennis player, not as
a golfer. And it's been hard. It's really hard because
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I felt like I could do it and there was
just something missing. But instead of sitting down and feeling
sorry for myself, I picked myself back up and threw
myself into my media work, and my background of just
grinding hard work has really helped me in my media
career because I work so incredibly hard, and the difference
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is here, the harder I work, the more successful I've become.
And I think that's why it's been a more fulfilling
journey for me than with professional golf, because the more
hours I put in, the harder I work. For my
partners and myself, it's the outcome is great, the outcome
is positive, and that's just been something that is really
fulfilling for me because I feel like I am reaping
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the rewards of my hard work, and so I am
happy that I'm doing what I'm doing now. But if
I had the choice to be doing what I'm doing
or play on the LPGA Tour, I would probably pick
the LPGA Tour because that was just a goal that
I've always wanted to achieve and it was a dream
of mine and I wish I could have checked that
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off before I went over into doing media work full time,
but that's not how life works, and you always have
to adapt and change and evolve and just brush yourself
off and figure it out and move forward. You can't
regret decisions that you've made or dwell on failures, you
have to use them to motivate you to keep pushing forward.
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Is there any nudity on only Page. No, there is
no nudity on only Page. I think some people get
confused because it is only Page and it was a
cheeky name to make fun of only fans because I
get asked you only fans all the time by people,
and so I wanted it to be very tongue in cheek.
There's no nudity, and that's on purpose. I also think
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that implied nudity and not showing everything as actually sexier
as being able to use your imagination, and that's something
that I will always continue to do. I have no
issue with like implied nudity at all. I just never
want to show those parts of my body and I
never will do that. I also just don't think it
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is beneficial to my business goals and how I see
my career unfolding in the next five, ten, fifteen, twenty years.
And it's not a knock on anyone who does that.
It's just a personal preference that I never want to do.
And also because I just had such a traumatic experience
with the picture that got leaked, and I just that
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was really hard on me. And so for all those reasons,
there's no nudity, but also because there's more value on
Only Page than just seeing a nipple, and I try
to provide so much value on Only Page. The instructional
content there really shines there is something for everyone, and
we're going to continue to keep building in actually going
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to Florida tomorrow to shoot more instructional content to make
Only Page the best that it can be. Also, we're
doing giveaways and all the annual members got a free
built shirt, and there's behind the scenes footage and just
there's so many other things on there that I think
brings so much more value than seeing a titty, and
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I want to continue to keep doing that. I'm never
going to shy away from the sexy side of my
brand because I like the way that my body looks.
I don't think there is anything wrong with the human body.
I think it's absolutely beautiful. And I work incredibly hard
in the gym with my diet, and I am young
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and I want to be able to feel sexy. There's
nothing wrong with that, but I want to do it
in the guidelines that feel comfortable to me. And so
I will always continue to stay true to that. That's
that we're going to change. But it's not like you're
you're not going to see sexy pictures on only page.
You're going to see sexiness and cheekiness everywhere because that's
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just who I am. That's my brand, and I will
always stay true to that. Thoughts on Live getting a
zero point two TV rating last weekend, I'm not surprised.
I think that Live has fizzled a little bit. It
came out with a bang that first year because of
all of the controversies and the curiosity of which players
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are going to jump over and which ones aren't, and
I think they were expecting a lot more players, higher
ranked players to jump on board. I remember during the
height of it, you were hearing names like Colin Moore,
Cowan and Xander Schaffling, Patrick Cantling And obviously they didn't
end up doing that and they stayed on the PGA tour.
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But if that happened, if more players jumped over, then
I think it really could have been interesting this year.
But that just didn't happen. It's not surprising they're also
on the CW. I don't remember the last time I've
watched TV or I have watched the CW. I think
that just entertainment is evolving, and I wish they were
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a little bit more creative with how they decided to
maybe stream live. There's so many reasons why I think
that it's continuing to fail and not be where they
expect it to be. But I mean, does anyone really
carry you know? I think that it has made the
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PGA Tour better. I think that the Live Verse PGA
Tour controversy of last year has elevated the game for
not only the players, but for the viewers. There has
been changes on the PGA Tour as well as new
ideas like the Stadium Tour with Tiger and Rory, which
I'm really excited about. So I think, all in all,
it's been really positive and I don't if you're forward
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tall are you? So this is an interesting question because
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when I meet people, some of the responses are and
it's always surprises me. I thought you'd be taller in person,
and that how bit a lot. In the Chicago Golf Show,
I had multi people tell me I thought you'd be taller.
I'm almost five eight, so I'm not short, but I
guess I just have a presence of looking taller on
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social media. But everything's I'm going to be like maybe
five ten eleven but only only five eight. Not short,
but yeah, everyone's just really surprised. Might just be out
of my body proportions that make me look a little
bit shorter. Next question is I've missed the mental health
and anti bowling material used to post. Yeah, this one's interesting.
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So I used to open up about mental health and
just the the online abuse that I was facing when
I first started my career on social media, which was
a while ago now, and I felt that first off,
I wasn't I wasn't equipped to handle life online and
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life in the public eye. I was twenty two twenty
three when all of this happened. I was thrown into it.
I had no idea what to expect. It was really
challenging to live a normal life and then instantly overnight
have hundreds of thousands of people have a negative opinion
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about you, and it took a toll on me mentally.
I think when I would talk about it, I came
off as if I was having this victim mentality, And
even to this day, people say that I used to
play the victim where I play the victim, but I
think that it was just me trying to deal with
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all of the hate that I was getting and it
was coming in such a large volume, but I don't
think any human being should be able to handle that,
and they're not equipped to be able to handle it.
And so over the years I have just stepped away
from that because anytime I have talked about, you know,
the online shaming that I've received, the response is always like, well,
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you put yourself out there, so it is what it
is like if you can't take the heat, step out
of the kitchen, And I honestly kind of agree with
that because I have a choice to to this job,
and I can step away at any point. I don't
have to do this, And although it's a big negative,
it's just a part of what I do. And when
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you separate what you do and like what people are
saying from the reality of the situation, it's really not
that bad. I've created this persona. It's almost like a
shell to protect myself, and the persona is this like
how going sex pot, you know, funny, rebellious padrone character.
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And although it's still me, it's a it's a very
exaggerated version of myself. And it's been easier for me
to handle the negative shots that people take daily because
it's not about me, it's not to me. They don't
know me, and so I just don't talk about it
anymore because I also just think that people are way
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too soft online now. And I also noticed that mental
health started to almost be a trend where people were
talking about it to seem relatable, and that also kind
of upset me, because I think it is great that
people are talking about and being so open about it,
but some of the people who were talking about it
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were almost using it as a way to seem cooler,
and it really rubbed me the wrong way because they
weren't making changes in their life, and they weren't giving
their followers tips to be able to handle mental health issues,
and they're also not trained to be able to do so.
And so moving forward with my platform, I have decided
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to only talk about it when I feel like I
can give advice on how to make you feel better.
It's not like, oh, I'm depressed, You're depressed. We're all depressed,
like life stocks. It's like, okay, maybe I feel anxious today. Well,
if I'm feeling anxious, here is what I do to
not feel as anxious. Maybe it is cutting alcohol out
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of your life, or focusing on your diet, or taking
a walk or disconnecting from your phone or you know,
providing some type of value instead. I would see these
influencers who would talk about mental health issues and how
they were feeling, but then the next video it's them
partying and doing all these things, and they talk about
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how crappy they feel and all this stuff, and they
never change it and they don't provide any positivity back
to their audience. And so it's been it's been gosh.
I don't even know really how to put this in words,
because it has been an interesting journey for me online
on who I want to be and the content that
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I want to talk about. And I just have personally
decided that I want my content to be about fun
and a silliness and a cheekiness, and so everything that
I put out now is to provide entertainment and to
hopefully put a smile on your face. And that is
my way of, in a roundabout way, going back to
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mental health, is to make people happy and to provide
a little bit of sunshine in their day, because life
is hard and we're all dealing with stuff, and so
if I can put a silly video or a picture
or something out there and make someone smile, I feel
like that is more beneficial to their mental health than
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me talking about how I have anxiety and I have
talked about and the people who follow me know that,
And so this is what I've been doing recently to
try to make a positive impact on other people, and
I feel better doing it, and I get so many
comments about how my content does make them very happy,
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and so this is just something that I will continue
to do and I probably won't talk about mental health
or anti bowling that much moving forward, because I just
feel much better creating content that makes people happy and
create a community of positivity. I feel like that is
actually more beneficial. How are you feeling these days? You
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seem so happy? I love it. Yeah, I am really happy.
I am about to be thirty on the end of March,
and I feel in the last couple of years I
have matured and grown and changed so much, so much.
I have put so much effort into being the best
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version of myself and trying to do things that make
me happy and finding my purpose and finding what makes
me fulfilled and just not being as hard on myself
and down on myself and so critical of everything that
I'm doing. And it's interesting because I would always try
to search for a purpose in life and to feel
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fulfilled and like what would make me happy? And I
realized that it's not that serious, and you can feel
fulfilled by doing things that just make you happy. I
went into everything in my career and even in life
just trying to do something bigger than myself and to
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try to make a change and try to do all
these things. And I put so much pressure on myself
to be perfect and to achieve things and to be
the best that I could be, and I was making
myself miserable and I hated waking up because I felt
like a failure every single day. And so I just
switched my mindset over and I go, Okay, what's going
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to make me happy today? And sometimes it's making a stupid,
little silly video that I post online and makes other
people happy, and that makes me happy. And it's not
about changing the game or doing all these things. It's
just about doing something that makes you feel good. Maybe
it's going for a walk, maybe it's whatever it may be.
Just do something every day that makes you feel good,
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and it could be such a small thing. And I've
just been trying to focus on that and also just
be a good person and be a good friend, and
be a good partner and just try to do those
little extra things and go out of my way to
make someone else feel better. And that has actually been
a really big change in my life. Next question is
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do you consider yourself a good role model? I think
that's really subjective. What is a good role model and
why is it a good role model for you? Or
why it is someone a bad role model? And so
I can't say that I think I'm a good or
a bad role model, because I think I probably am
a good role model for some people, and some people
probably think that I'm a bad role model. I know
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that the content that I create and my business is
not everyone's cup of tea, and I've accepted that, but
I'm also really proud of everything that I have accomplished.
I think if I went up to anyone and I said, hey,
your daughter at twenty nine is the CEO of a
profitable media empire that is growing every single year with
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endless opportunities, I don't think anyone would be like, Yeah,
that girl's a disappointment to me. I wouldn't. I wouldn't
want that, you know. So I think it's how you
frame things. But if you know nothing about me, you
quickly glance at my Instagram, you could come up with
the assumption that I am just a desperate girl using
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my body for male validation. And if that is your
judgment call, then you'd probably think I'm a bad role model.
So again, I think it just goes into not making
a stamp judgment about someone and learning more about them
and who they are and their business or whatever it
may be, to coming up with your own idea if
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they or a good or a bad role model for you.
I also don't think that my content is for a
younger audience because I don't think anyone under the age
of honestly fifteen should be on social media. I don't
think it's healthy for them. And so I'm not creating
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content for ten twelve year old boys and girls because
they shouldn't be on social media anyways. And I like
the content that I create. It's supposed to be fun,
it's supposed to be tongue in cheek, and it's also
a statement. I got really tired of people telling me
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what I can and cannot wear, and telling me that
what I wear changes their opinion on if I'm a
good or a bad person. It makes no sense to me.
And I've dealt with this for so many years of
brands and people not wanting to work with me or
having these judgments about me because of what I wear.
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And I'm a bit There's one thing about me. I
actually am a bit rebellious, and if you tell me
that I can't do something, I'm going to do it
ten times more. And I think that what I've warned.
If you see the progression of my Instagram. I've always
been a bit more revealing with my clothes, but I've
done it a bit more recently to prove a point
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that you can respect the game of golf, and you
don't have to wear what is deemed appropriate, and you
can have fun on the golf course. You do all
these things, you can be a good person. It doesn't
matter if you're wearing a crop top or not hot.
It just does not make sense to me at all.
I have been like this since I was a little girl.
I was so shy, I didn't talk to anyone. But
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if I saw and justice happened, I sprung into action
and I stood up for anyone because it just doesn't
make sense to me. And so My whole business is
kind of evolved into pushing boundaries on purpose to prove
a point, because I'm so sick and tired of seeing
these people on their moral high ground who pretend to
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be so perfect for the public and then behind the
scenes are just shitty people. And they have the audacity
to tell me that I'm a bad person or a
bad role model because I'm showing a bit of cleavage.
Give me a fucking break. And so I push the
boundaries to be like, this is insane that someone what
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someone wears can truly affect your entire judgment about them.
It blows my mind. And even there has been some
little rumblings in the golf industry about only page you
know on there, I don't do nudity. I have expressed
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multiple times that I will never do nudity, and people
still think that I'm going in a direction that's you know,
not suitable, and it's like I'm wearing a bikini or
I'm wearing you know, very tasteful lingerie. Who cares. I'm
still the same person. Why does me also being sexy
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make you think differently about me? I will never ever
understand that, And so you know what, I do, which
is probably stupid in the long term, but this is
like what I stand for. I'm gonna continue to do
it to prove my point, and I'm gonna continue to
keep pushing to show that, like, you can wear what
you want to wear and you can be who you
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want to be. And if someone doesn't like that, okay, fine,
But it doesn't mean I'm a bad person, Like it
doesn't define who I am as a person. And I
just wish people would be more open minded. And I
get so worked up when I talk about stuff like
this because to me, it's so logical and it makes sense.
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And then I will talk to other people. I hear
other people's opinions about stuff like this, and it just
it doesn't add up to me. You know, I'm saying
one plus one equals two, and they're saying, no, it
equals three, and you're arguing about it. But you know
for a fact that it equals two, and they're arguing
and they know for a fact that it equals three.
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And that is what this feels like. And so I
have always always push the boundaries, and it's with purpose.
It's not for validation online validation, although that does seem
nice sometimes and sometimes it is really nice. It's more
than that, and within my entire business too, and what
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I stand for it's not I don't do this for
the money. I don't do this for any other reason
but to just keep pushing forward and to show people
that a woman can be sexy, she can be smart,
she can be talented, she can be all of these things,
and what she wear doesn't define who she is. And
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I feel so incredibly strongly about that, and I will
continue to push forward. I will continue to wear what
I wear for a reason and there's purpose behind it.
So I don't know if any of what I said
answer the question if I think I'm a good role
model or a bad role model, but I do want
to clarify that I am not advocating for young girls
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or women to show their body off if they don't
want to. I am advocating for women to be able
to be themselves without unfair judgment. And if that means
that they want to cover up because that's how they
feel comfortable, then fucking go for it. If they want
to show off their body, then fucking oh for it.
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That is what I stand for, and I try to
push that message across because women face so much crap
every single day, double standards all the time, and I
am just pushing against that. So that's for Some people
like that and some people don't like that, but I
am happy with what I stand for and who I am.
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I also know that my parents are really happy and
proud of who I am, and I think they would
say I'm a good role model. And that's all that
matters to me is what my parents think, and my
friends think so and you know, my partner, so that
those are those are the people who matter to me,
and I think that's who you should also care about
the opinions if if they're really close to you. So
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that is the episode for today. I really hope you
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Allow everyone, welcome back to the Playing Round podcast. I'm
your host Page Renee, and we're going to be doing
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a Q and A episode today. We haven't done this
in a little bit, so I think it's gonna be
a lot of fun. Unfortunately, Sam lost her voice when
we were in Chicago. It was a very hectic couple
days of work morning till night. I was at the
Chicago Golf Show on Saturday and Sunday and also did
shoots with X Golf and it was Mayhem at the
Chicago Golf Show I've never been there before. The only
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time I've done something like that was the PGA show
in Orlando, and this was vastly different. This is open
to the public, and the setup was really cool. But
I'm starting to see the impact that I'm having, which
is it's been overwhelming in a positive way. Because before
I can almost live a double life where I had
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followers online, but in my private life I could walk
around and you really do anything I wanted and never
be recognized or noticed. But I would say in the
last year and a half it really switched over after
I was named the Sexiest Woman Alive by Maxim that
I started to get recognized a lot everywhere, and of
course certain places I expect if I'm on the golf
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course or a sporting event that's kind of my main demographic.
But now I'll be at like a restaurant or a
grocery store or at the airport, and people are coming
up to me now, and it's really interesting because a
lot of the first thing they say is I listen
to the podcast, and I love when people say that,
or they'll be like, you taught me how to do
a flop shot or a bunker shot, and they pick
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out these really specific things that are the most meaningful
to me, Like I love when people listen to the podcast,
and I love when people watch my golf instruction. And
that's the number one thing that they say most people
say when they come up and meet me for the
first time. And it's always nice to put a face
to the name because I don't really get to I
get to interact with a lot of you, but it's
just different when you're able to connect with someone one
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on one, you face to face. And so Chico Golf
Show was awesome. But I'm really excited to get into
this Q and A and let's just do it. So
the first question is do you usually play from the
whites at most courses. I think a lot of people
expect women to play from the front tis. I mean
they literally call them the women's teas, the red teas.
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And sometimes I'll play from the front ties. And this
is one tip drill they actually tell people to do
all the time. If you want to start getting comfortable
shooting lower scores, play from the front ties. So start
from the fronties. And if you can't shoot part under
from there, then you probably shouldn't move back. But if
you consistently can shoot underpar from the front ties, then
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you can move back to the next ties, and then
we can shoot underpart from those teas. Then you can
move back and you just go from there until you're
shooting another apart from the tips. But most people have
these mental barriers and they can't break through. And you
see a lot of people where they're having the round
of their life and then they go triple bogie bogie
or double double double on the last holes or the
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back nine because they're not used to going low. They're
not comfortable being in that situation. So when you play
from the front ties, it should be a little bit
easier because the course is shorter, which means you have
more wedges in. But people realize that that's where they're
struggling because most people don't practice their short game and
their wedges that much, and so this is a great
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drill to do when you're trying to get comfortable shooting
lower scores. To work on your short game is play
from the front ties. The teas that I play from
kind of all over. If I want to have more
of a relaxed, fun round, I'll play up. If I
am just you know, playing my normal teas, it's usually
one in front of the tips. If I'm playing with
a bunch of dudes, then I'll play from whatever teas
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they want to play from, and most of the time
it's from the tips, and so I'll just kind of
mix and match and play wherever. And I think that's okay.
Like you can play different tea boxes and even on
some holes even during the round if you don't want
to play from the tips on all of them, or
if you want to play up on some do it.
Make the course whatever you want to make it. And
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I think that that makes it so much more fun
because there are certain holes that just set up better
as like a reagionable part four or a two sharp
part five, or you want to stretch it out and
make it a difficult part four. Like you can play
the course differently all the time, and so if you're
at your home course and you play the same teas
all the time, I want to challenge you to play
different teas and mix it up and play the course
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so many different ways, and it actually turns it into
a completely different golf course. It's one of my favorite
things to do. Next question is will you be at
the page Spranic bubble Head Day at the Brewers game
this June. Yes, I will be there. We had such
an amazing time. The last time I was at the
Brewers Stadium, I threw out the first pitch and unfortunately
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went viral for being body shaped. So hopefully this time
goes better, and maybe I'll bring like a whole lighting
crew out with me so I look the best that
I can. But jokes aside, I'm really excited to go back.
I think I'm throwing up the first pitch again. Hopefully
I won't be as nervous as last time. I was terrified,
shaking like a leaf. I pounded like two tequila shots
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before I went out there because I was so nervous.
I didn't want to go viral for like a fifty
cent type first pitch throw, and luckily I didn't do that,
but I then had to deal with all of those
other blind shaving issues. But I'm really excited to go back.
That whole crew is so incredibly nice. Everyone there was
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so sweet and it's going to be really great. So
if you are in the area around the area, you
guys can come out and we're doing a big event
at the ex Gulf there in Brewer Stadium, giving away
bubble heads, doing the first pitch, all of that good stuff.
So I'm very excited for that again. Hopefully I'll be
less nervous the last time. Next question, is one thing
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you would give ad advice to the teenage version of you.
This is a really great question. I think that I'm
a real people pleaser, and I have learned to overcome
that through the years of maturity and just dealing with
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people not liking you, even though you're doing everything you
possibly can to make them like you, and it puts
so much pressure on yourself and it stresses you out.
And so I think I would tell teenage me to
just not give a shit, to not really care. You
don't need the popular people to like you. You don't
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need to seek validation from boys, you don't need to
seek validation from anyone. It's taken me, again, like I said,
years to find this inner confidence. It's also taken me
years of therapy to also come to the realization that
I love myself and I'm confident in who I am
and to not let anyone else bring me down. I
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think that's something that we can all learn from, is
that you can be so nice to people and do
everything in your power to be a good person and
they still might not like you, and that's okay. And
why are you chasing validation from someone who doesn't even
like you? It doesn't make sense. I used to do
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that growing up, especially as a teenager with boys all
the time. If they didn't like me, it almost made
the chase more enticing, and I was just setting myself
up for heartbreak and failure. And I had to learn
that you set the standard, you know, like, that's okay,
Like you need to set hire standards for yourself, and
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you should only let people in who one want to
be your friend or a partner, whatever it may be.
As this applies to everything in your life, romantic, personal relationships,
business relationships. Why do you seek out people who have
no interest in you? And this has helped me and
like I said, my personal life and also my professional life,
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I only want to work with people who understand me
and my business. And what I'm trying to create as
well in my personal life is having friends, family partners
around who just love me for me and not trying
to change or feeling like I have to change who
I am. And so I think that would be. The
big advice I'd give to teenage version of myself is
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set your standards, hie, love yourself, be confident who you are,
and don't seek validation for people who just don't like you.
Do you wish you played on the LPGA Tour? Yes,
I always wanted to be a professional athlete, and it
kills me to this day that I never made it,
especially because I was a competitive gymnast growing up and
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I was competing on a really high level. I wanted
to go to the Olympics, but with gymnastics there's an
age restriction, so you have to be sixteen or turning
sixteen in the year at the Olympics, and the first
year I would have been eligible was eighteen, which is
past your prime. I also fractured my kneecap twice and
just didn't have the right body build. I'm a bit
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taller and needing to be short and strong, and I
just it's not my body type. And so once I
quit gymnastics, which was a really hard decision. I was
twelve at the time. My whole identity was gymnastics and
being known as you know Page, a gymnast, and Page
is gonna go the Olympics, and it's really hard to
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give that up. And so I sat around with my
family and I said, what can I be good at?
What sport can I turn pro in? And first we
tried tennis because my aunt, she was a professional tennis player.
She came out put me through bootcamp, and I was like,
not for me. I wish I stuck with it, because
I think I would have actually been a better tennis
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player than a golfer. But it was just a little
too similar to gymnastics, and I needed a big change.
I didn't come from a golf family, but my dad
played recreationally, and so he took me out and he
said that I'm a bit more introverted and shine. He
thought that golf would be a good fit for me,
and I fell in love with it right away. And
so from the first golf ball I hit, I dedicated
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everything I had to being a pro golfer. I was homeschooled.
I practiced every single day morning till night. It was
my only goal. I was a highly read junior golfer.
And then at eighteen, I had to make the decision
to go to college or to turn pro, and everyone
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told me that I needed to go to college to
get a little bit more experienced personal life experience and
also playing experience and playing on a team in a
different environment. And because I was homeschool I thought it
was a good idea. I went to University of Arizona
first and then just wasn't the right fit for me,
so I transferred over to San Diego State University. So
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many growing pains, so many growing pains I was burnt
out of I wouldn't say golf, but just dedicating my
life to something and not really seeing the results. So
with gymnastics it was hard because I was fighting injuries,
and then with golf. Golf is such an interesting sport
because you can work out, eat right, practice and still
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not achieve your goals. And that was something for me
that I just couldn't wrap my head around. And it
also went against everything that my parents ever told me,
because I come from two athletes, and they always said
if you put the work in and you dedicate your
life to something, you will be successful. But that just
wasn't happening with golf, and I was driving myself crazy
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because I felt like I should be achieving at a
much higher level and I had the athletic ability, and
every coach that I worked with said, you're going to
be a top five player in the world. I had
amazing hands, great body awareness, the power of the speed.
I had everything to be a world class golfer. But
I just couldn't put it together and I didn't know why,
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and it was driving me insane, actually insane, and I
just got to the point where I just stopped caring.
I wanted to have more of a social life. I
wanted to have fun. I was tired of dedicating my
life to something and just not seeing the results. So
when I was playing at STSU, I just lost my
desire for it. And my senior year, the last turn
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it was Regionals in Utah, which is so funny because
Sam was playing with Arkansas at that same tournament. I'll
have to talk about that the next episode. We just
found that out, and I remember going up the eighteenth
hole being so incredibly happy because I didn't have to
play golf anymore, and I was gonna put the clubs away.
I just didn't want to do it anymore. So the
clubs went away for about two weeks and I started
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to miss it, and so I was talking to my
parents and they said what do you want to do?
You know you needed to get I had one more
semester I had to finish with school, so I was
going to go back and be the assistant coach at
STSU and they were going to cover the last semester
for me, and then we also decided that maybe I
can turn pro. And there were so many ways that
my life was going at that time, and none of
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it was clear. So I sat down, as was the
summer before the last semester, and my dad said, let's
just give it to go. Let's give the summer a
go and then we can. You can practice and play
as you're being the assistant coach, and that's it did.
So I decided that that's what I was going to do.
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I was playing really well, and then my whole life
flipped upside down. I blew up on social media. I
didn't end up going back to be the assistant coach.
I didn't even finish my last semester of college. I
never got my degree, which is something that's so crazy
and I've actually never talked about that. I was like
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two credits shore of getting my degree and I never
got it. And like I said, my whole life changed
I then got the invite to go play in Dubai.
I blew up there, did one whole year of playing
golf professionally and just was mentally exhausted, exhausted, and golf
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you fail more than you succeed. And I was doing
that in the public eye, and everyone was telling me
you should quit, you should give up, You're not good,
all of these things. And I was already dealing with
these mental issues of years and years and years of
trying so hard and coming up short. And I just broke.
I honestly cracked. I broke, and I just stopped. I
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said maybe I'll go back, and I've never gone back
to try to play golf professionally again. It keeps me
up at night, to be honest, because I feel like
a failure and it's really difficult for me to wrap
my head around the fact that I never made it
now as a gymnast, as a tennis player, not as
a golfer. And it's been hard. It's really hard because
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I felt like I could do it and there was
just something missing. But instead of sitting down and feeling
sorry for myself, I picked myself back up and threw
myself into my media work, and my background of just
grinding hard work has really helped me in my media
career because I work so incredibly hard, and the difference
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is here, the harder I work, the more successful I've become.
And I think that's why it's been a more fulfilling
journey for me than with professional golf, because the more
hours I put in, the harder I work. For my
partners and myself, it's the outcome is great, the outcome
is positive, and that's just been something that is really
fulfilling for me because I feel like I am reaping
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the rewards of my hard work, and so I am
happy that I'm doing what I'm doing now. But if
I had the choice to be doing what I'm doing
or play on the LPGA Tour, I would probably pick
the LPGA Tour because that was just a goal that
I've always wanted to achieve and it was a dream
of mine and I wish I could have checked that
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off before I went over into doing media work full time,
but that's not how life works, and you always have
to adapt and change and evolve and just brush yourself
off and figure it out and move forward. You can't
regret decisions that you've made or dwell on failures, you
have to use them to motivate you to keep pushing forward.
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Is there any nudity on only Page. No, there is
no nudity on only Page. I think some people get
confused because it is only Page and it was a
cheeky name to make fun of only fans because I
get asked you only fans all the time by people,
and so I wanted it to be very tongue in cheek.
There's no nudity, and that's on purpose. I also think
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that implied nudity and not showing everything as actually sexier
as being able to use your imagination, and that's something
that I will always continue to do. I have no
issue with like implied nudity at all. I just never
want to show those parts of my body and I
never will do that. I also just don't think it
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is beneficial to my business goals and how I see
my career unfolding in the next five, ten, fifteen, twenty years.
And it's not a knock on anyone who does that.
It's just a personal preference that I never want to do.
And also because I just had such a traumatic experience
with the picture that got leaked, and I just that
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was really hard on me. And so for all those reasons,
there's no nudity, but also because there's more value on
Only Page than just seeing a nipple, and I try
to provide so much value on Only Page. The instructional
content there really shines there is something for everyone, and
we're going to continue to keep building in actually going
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to Florida tomorrow to shoot more instructional content to make
Only Page the best that it can be. Also, we're
doing giveaways and all the annual members got a free
built shirt, and there's behind the scenes footage and just
there's so many other things on there that I think
brings so much more value than seeing a titty, and
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I want to continue to keep doing that. I'm never
going to shy away from the sexy side of my
brand because I like the way that my body looks.
I don't think there is anything wrong with the human body.
I think it's absolutely beautiful. And I work incredibly hard
in the gym with my diet, and I am young
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and I want to be able to feel sexy. There's
nothing wrong with that, but I want to do it
in the guidelines that feel comfortable to me. And so
I will always continue to stay true to that. That's
that we're going to change. But it's not like you're
you're not going to see sexy pictures on only page.
You're going to see sexiness and cheekiness everywhere because that's
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just who I am. That's my brand, and I will
always stay true to that. Thoughts on Live getting a
zero point two TV rating last weekend, I'm not surprised.
I think that Live has fizzled a little bit. It
came out with a bang that first year because of
all of the controversies and the curiosity of which players
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are going to jump over and which ones aren't, and
I think they were expecting a lot more players, higher
ranked players to jump on board. I remember during the
height of it, you were hearing names like Colin Moore,
Cowan and Xander Schaffling, Patrick Cantling And obviously they didn't
end up doing that and they stayed on the PGA tour.
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But if that happened, if more players jumped over, then
I think it really could have been interesting this year.
But that just didn't happen. It's not surprising they're also
on the CW. I don't remember the last time I've
watched TV or I have watched the CW. I think
that just entertainment is evolving, and I wish they were
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a little bit more creative with how they decided to
maybe stream live. There's so many reasons why I think
that it's continuing to fail and not be where they
expect it to be. But I mean, does anyone really
carry you know? I think that it has made the
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PGA Tour better. I think that the Live Verse PGA
Tour controversy of last year has elevated the game for
not only the players, but for the viewers. There has
been changes on the PGA Tour as well as new
ideas like the Stadium Tour with Tiger and Rory, which
I'm really excited about. So I think, all in all,
it's been really positive and I don't if you're forward
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tall are you? So this is an interesting question because
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when I meet people, some of the responses are and
it's always surprises me. I thought you'd be taller in person,
and that how bit a lot. In the Chicago Golf Show,
I had multi people tell me I thought you'd be taller.
I'm almost five eight, so I'm not short, but I
guess I just have a presence of looking taller on
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social media. But everything's I'm going to be like maybe
five ten eleven but only only five eight. Not short,
but yeah, everyone's just really surprised. Might just be out
of my body proportions that make me look a little
bit shorter. Next question is I've missed the mental health
and anti bowling material used to post. Yeah, this one's interesting.
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So I used to open up about mental health and
just the the online abuse that I was facing when
I first started my career on social media, which was
a while ago now, and I felt that first off,
I wasn't I wasn't equipped to handle life online and
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life in the public eye. I was twenty two twenty
three when all of this happened. I was thrown into it.
I had no idea what to expect. It was really
challenging to live a normal life and then instantly overnight
have hundreds of thousands of people have a negative opinion
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about you, and it took a toll on me mentally.
I think when I would talk about it, I came
off as if I was having this victim mentality, And
even to this day, people say that I used to
play the victim where I play the victim, but I
think that it was just me trying to deal with
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all of the hate that I was getting and it
was coming in such a large volume, but I don't
think any human being should be able to handle that,
and they're not equipped to be able to handle it.
And so over the years I have just stepped away
from that because anytime I have talked about, you know,
the online shaming that I've received, the response is always like, well,
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you put yourself out there, so it is what it
is like if you can't take the heat, step out
of the kitchen, And I honestly kind of agree with
that because I have a choice to to this job,
and I can step away at any point. I don't
have to do this, And although it's a big negative,
it's just a part of what I do. And when
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you separate what you do and like what people are
saying from the reality of the situation, it's really not
that bad. I've created this persona. It's almost like a
shell to protect myself, and the persona is this like
how going sex pot, you know, funny, rebellious padrone character.
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And although it's still me, it's a it's a very
exaggerated version of myself. And it's been easier for me
to handle the negative shots that people take daily because
it's not about me, it's not to me. They don't
know me, and so I just don't talk about it
anymore because I also just think that people are way
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too soft online now. And I also noticed that mental
health started to almost be a trend where people were
talking about it to seem relatable, and that also kind
of upset me, because I think it is great that
people are talking about and being so open about it,
but some of the people who were talking about it
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were almost using it as a way to seem cooler,
and it really rubbed me the wrong way because they
weren't making changes in their life, and they weren't giving
their followers tips to be able to handle mental health issues,
and they're also not trained to be able to do so.
And so moving forward with my platform, I have decided
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to only talk about it when I feel like I
can give advice on how to make you feel better.
It's not like, oh, I'm depressed, You're depressed. We're all depressed,
like life stocks. It's like, okay, maybe I feel anxious today. Well,
if I'm feeling anxious, here is what I do to
not feel as anxious. Maybe it is cutting alcohol out
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of your life, or focusing on your diet, or taking
a walk or disconnecting from your phone or you know,
providing some type of value instead. I would see these
influencers who would talk about mental health issues and how
they were feeling, but then the next video it's them
partying and doing all these things, and they talk about
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how crappy they feel and all this stuff, and they
never change it and they don't provide any positivity back
to their audience. And so it's been it's been gosh.
I don't even know really how to put this in words,
because it has been an interesting journey for me online
on who I want to be and the content that
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I want to talk about. And I just have personally
decided that I want my content to be about fun
and a silliness and a cheekiness, and so everything that
I put out now is to provide entertainment and to
hopefully put a smile on your face. And that is
my way of, in a roundabout way, going back to
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mental health, is to make people happy and to provide
a little bit of sunshine in their day, because life
is hard and we're all dealing with stuff, and so
if I can put a silly video or a picture
or something out there and make someone smile, I feel
like that is more beneficial to their mental health than
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me talking about how I have anxiety and I have
talked about and the people who follow me know that,
And so this is what I've been doing recently to
try to make a positive impact on other people, and
I feel better doing it, and I get so many
comments about how my content does make them very happy,
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and so this is just something that I will continue
to do and I probably won't talk about mental health
or anti bowling that much moving forward, because I just
feel much better creating content that makes people happy and
create a community of positivity. I feel like that is
actually more beneficial. How are you feeling these days? You
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seem so happy? I love it. Yeah, I am really happy.
I am about to be thirty on the end of March,
and I feel in the last couple of years I
have matured and grown and changed so much, so much.
I have put so much effort into being the best
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version of myself and trying to do things that make
me happy and finding my purpose and finding what makes
me fulfilled and just not being as hard on myself
and down on myself and so critical of everything that
I'm doing. And it's interesting because I would always try
to search for a purpose in life and to feel
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fulfilled and like what would make me happy? And I
realized that it's not that serious, and you can feel
fulfilled by doing things that just make you happy. I
went into everything in my career and even in life
just trying to do something bigger than myself and to
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try to make a change and try to do all
these things. And I put so much pressure on myself
to be perfect and to achieve things and to be
the best that I could be, and I was making
myself miserable and I hated waking up because I felt
like a failure every single day. And so I just
switched my mindset over and I go, Okay, what's going
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to make me happy today? And sometimes it's making a stupid,
little silly video that I post online and makes other
people happy, and that makes me happy. And it's not
about changing the game or doing all these things. It's
just about doing something that makes you feel good. Maybe
it's going for a walk, maybe it's whatever it may be.
Just do something every day that makes you feel good,
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and it could be such a small thing. And I've
just been trying to focus on that and also just
be a good person and be a good friend, and
be a good partner and just try to do those
little extra things and go out of my way to
make someone else feel better. And that has actually been
a really big change in my life. Next question is
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do you consider yourself a good role model? I think
that's really subjective. What is a good role model and
why is it a good role model for you? Or
why it is someone a bad role model? And so
I can't say that I think I'm a good or
a bad role model, because I think I probably am
a good role model for some people, and some people
probably think that I'm a bad role model. I know
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that the content that I create and my business is
not everyone's cup of tea, and I've accepted that, but
I'm also really proud of everything that I have accomplished.
I think if I went up to anyone and I said, hey,
your daughter at twenty nine is the CEO of a
profitable media empire that is growing every single year with
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endless opportunities, I don't think anyone would be like, Yeah,
that girl's a disappointment to me. I wouldn't. I wouldn't
want that, you know. So I think it's how you
frame things. But if you know nothing about me, you
quickly glance at my Instagram, you could come up with
the assumption that I am just a desperate girl using
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my body for male validation. And if that is your
judgment call, then you'd probably think I'm a bad role model.
So again, I think it just goes into not making
a stamp judgment about someone and learning more about them
and who they are and their business or whatever it
may be, to coming up with your own idea if
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they or a good or a bad role model for you.
I also don't think that my content is for a
younger audience because I don't think anyone under the age
of honestly fifteen should be on social media. I don't
think it's healthy for them. And so I'm not creating
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content for ten twelve year old boys and girls because
they shouldn't be on social media anyways. And I like
the content that I create. It's supposed to be fun,
it's supposed to be tongue in cheek, and it's also
a statement. I got really tired of people telling me
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what I can and cannot wear, and telling me that
what I wear changes their opinion on if I'm a
good or a bad person. It makes no sense to me.
And I've dealt with this for so many years of
brands and people not wanting to work with me or
having these judgments about me because of what I wear.
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And I'm a bit There's one thing about me. I
actually am a bit rebellious, and if you tell me
that I can't do something, I'm going to do it
ten times more. And I think that what I've warned.
If you see the progression of my Instagram. I've always
been a bit more revealing with my clothes, but I've
done it a bit more recently to prove a point
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that you can respect the game of golf, and you
don't have to wear what is deemed appropriate, and you
can have fun on the golf course. You do all
these things, you can be a good person. It doesn't
matter if you're wearing a crop top or not hot.
It just does not make sense to me at all.
I have been like this since I was a little girl.
I was so shy, I didn't talk to anyone. But
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if I saw and justice happened, I sprung into action
and I stood up for anyone because it just doesn't
make sense to me. And so My whole business is
kind of evolved into pushing boundaries on purpose to prove
a point, because I'm so sick and tired of seeing
these people on their moral high ground who pretend to
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be so perfect for the public and then behind the
scenes are just shitty people. And they have the audacity
to tell me that I'm a bad person or a
bad role model because I'm showing a bit of cleavage.
Give me a fucking break. And so I push the
boundaries to be like, this is insane that someone what
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someone wears can truly affect your entire judgment about them.
It blows my mind. And even there has been some
little rumblings in the golf industry about only page you
know on there, I don't do nudity. I have expressed
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multiple times that I will never do nudity, and people
still think that I'm going in a direction that's you know,
not suitable, and it's like I'm wearing a bikini or
I'm wearing you know, very tasteful lingerie. Who cares. I'm
still the same person. Why does me also being sexy
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make you think differently about me? I will never ever
understand that, And so you know what, I do, which
is probably stupid in the long term, but this is
like what I stand for. I'm gonna continue to do
it to prove my point, and I'm gonna continue to
keep pushing to show that, like, you can wear what
you want to wear and you can be who you
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want to be. And if someone doesn't like that, okay, fine,
But it doesn't mean I'm a bad person, Like it
doesn't define who I am as a person. And I
just wish people would be more open minded. And I
get so worked up when I talk about stuff like
this because to me, it's so logical and it makes sense.
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And then I will talk to other people. I hear
other people's opinions about stuff like this, and it just
it doesn't add up to me. You know, I'm saying
one plus one equals two, and they're saying, no, it
equals three, and you're arguing about it. But you know
for a fact that it equals two, and they're arguing
and they know for a fact that it equals three.
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And that is what this feels like. And so I
have always always push the boundaries, and it's with purpose.
It's not for validation online validation, although that does seem
nice sometimes and sometimes it is really nice. It's more
than that, and within my entire business too, and what
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I stand for it's not I don't do this for
the money. I don't do this for any other reason
but to just keep pushing forward and to show people
that a woman can be sexy, she can be smart,
she can be talented, she can be all of these things,
and what she wear doesn't define who she is. And
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I feel so incredibly strongly about that, and I will
continue to push forward. I will continue to wear what
I wear for a reason and there's purpose behind it.
So I don't know if any of what I said
answer the question if I think I'm a good role
model or a bad role model, but I do want
to clarify that I am not advocating for young girls
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or women to show their body off if they don't
want to. I am advocating for women to be able
to be themselves without unfair judgment. And if that means
that they want to cover up because that's how they
feel comfortable, then fucking go for it. If they want
to show off their body, then fucking oh for it.
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That is what I stand for, and I try to
push that message across because women face so much crap
every single day, double standards all the time, and I
am just pushing against that. So that's for Some people
like that and some people don't like that, but I
am happy with what I stand for and who I am.
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I also know that my parents are really happy and
proud of who I am, and I think they would
say I'm a good role model. And that's all that
matters to me is what my parents think, and my
friends think so and you know, my partner, so that
those are those are the people who matter to me,
and I think that's who you should also care about
the opinions if if they're really close to you. So
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that is the episode for today. I really hope you
guys enjoyed. I always love doing this Q and A episodes,
and I know you guys enjoy them as well. So
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