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March 12, 2024 42 mins

All dogs are puppies and all cats are kittens. You have to sit with dignity to meditate. The question of the retinol bump and when to judge the day. Who cares if years lie fallow? Kate calls a club a spade, and Jacqueline offers the idiot take of an outsider. Could they put on a magic show to save their lives? Maybe it’s time for Movie POOG… That’s Greg, for ya! 

Brands mentioned: Dieux Skin, Lyma, Celsius, The Ludlow Hotel, Pat McGrath, Armani

 

Edited and mixed by Allie Graham.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi, I'm Kate ber Lance. I'm Jacqueline Novak.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
And this is poog, an ongoing conversation about wellness between
two obsessive friends.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Two untamable intellects. This is our hobby, This is our hell,
This is our naked desire for free products. This is poog.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Today's topics loosely speaking, three Doves Belongings movie Poog. Hello, Hello,
I say hello.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Wait, we're going to parties this week? Oh god, it's
a huge question. There's a week. Although when this air
is one, will it be who cares?

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Oppenheimer will have already swept?

Speaker 4 (00:46):
What does it mean to have clothing? I don't understand
how anyone does anything. I mean.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
I stopped in like a vintage kind of store and
just going through racks and just going what's it all mean?

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:06):
I don't know, And I don't know what the path
is to go into a party and enjoying one's outfit
and what do you do with the dress later?

Speaker 4 (01:15):
It's just it's all one big.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Well you have to I mean, I can tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
It's I can tell you a path which is I mean,
I'm very lucky because one of my oldest and closest
friends Kimmi Auberg is like a vintage archivist stylist extraordinary.
So I've literally been working close since I was in
high school, like begging for her to you know, or
she would like give me things that she didn't wear anymore,
like hand me downs, like hand me downs of her

(01:40):
I've been wearing for sixteen years.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
Oly shit, Now does she but does she archive like
other sizes or is it just.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Well as of right now, I've just truly lucked out
because I can wear her clothes sometimes, so it's like
some of hers amaze me. So that's what I'm doing
this week. For example, I'm wearing her clothes the things
that she you know, of course she makes.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
She just is tailoring that can happen whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, but she I should Actually this actually just sounds
like an ad for her, but I also don't care
if it is, but it should be. But what I'm
saying is that, yeah, you should talk to her because
you know what she can also do almost like personal
shopping level, like here's what you should get, here's what
you should get, oh my god, and some stuff again
returnable like real reel. She was like, get this gown
and it was like maybe this will work, maybe it won't,

(02:27):
didn't work, return, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
It's like it never happened, you know.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Well, I saw a headline that said something like, you know,
the resale market is more popular than ever, but nobody's
turning a profit. Now.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
I don't know if they mean what does that mean resale?

Speaker 3 (02:42):
I think, well, technically, I think the real reel is resale.
And then like I went by this store and something
about this kind of intrigued me.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
I went in.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
They're like, I forgot it was called is No, it
was called like rescue or something, and it was like
it was a room for of clothing racks. Okay, each
clothing rack was some woman's closet.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
I went to one of these stores and I hated it.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Now rows of hars No, I mean I knew what
it was. It smelled like you know that Goodwill clothing
out of the closet, that like smell of clothing. Yeah,
it smelled like that, which is fine, But I'm like,
don't smell like that and have expensive things, do you
know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (03:28):
It's like when I used to go to Century twenty one,
New York, and it's like, of course, the most expensive though,
like things in the world, like these Italian designers that
are so expensive, like they're not even like a name,
I know, you know what I mean. And it's like

(03:48):
a three thousand dollars dress marked down to twenty five
hundred and there's like deodorant stains on it and like
a tear and it's like it was.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
That four I know.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Well, I'm once again here's another shout out that I
do with love. I'm hiring for a third time. Sorted
out the two personal the organizers. Yeah, because I I
had again add meltdown, full meltdown where once again, you
know who cares. I've talked about this too much. The
point is I need help. I can't do it alone,
and I need to shed like half my belongings. I'm

(04:21):
convinced now you're funny with the word belongings.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
It's a lovely word.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
But today, but today or yesterday, when I was like
I don't care, I need help, you know, it's like
delegating like I need And obviously that's an extravagance to
to hire someone. But also it's actually not because I'm
wasting the amount of time, you know, our money I
waste from the I had a meltdown, because this is
the kind of thing that I'm sure you can relate to.
It's like I had to do something. It was like

(04:51):
I couldn't find the plugged it was a It's funny
how I'm hiding from saying what it was because it
feels a shameful.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
It was a ring light.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Okay, I had to put an audition on tape. There, yea,
there it is, which already is enough to throw me
into absolute madness.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Really, oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
I just assume you put you just put tapes.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Together like no, almost never knowing your own greatness.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
No, I can't bring myself to do it. And so
I was like, Okay, I'm gonna do it. I'm going
to find the strength. My house doesn't have the lighting
to do that for.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Those of you.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
So it's just to be clear, I'm I'm coming out
completely raw and vulnerable and saying yes, when you put
for an audition before COVID, you'd go into an office
and you'd have an actual experience with someone. Now do
it to everything being digital in the world becoming more
and more disembodied every day. Auditions something you know conceivably
about energy and raw sentuality in the room is now

(05:44):
also on zoom Wow. To be clear, I'm not blaming
the casting directors. I'm blaming the industry as a whole.
Or I don't know what I'm blaming. But the point
is the lighting in my house is not appropriate for
something like that. I don't have the medical grade hospital lighting.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
Do some do you think serious actors do they have.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
You know, setups?

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (06:06):
They have little they must yeah, or a little bit,
or they go to a studio or something.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
So I we got I have the ring light from
something that we did, some poog things.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
They sent us ring lights. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
The point is I go, oh, I have the ring light.
I remember, Yeah, I go into the office, I go
into the closet.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
I find the ring light.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
But I guess that is gone.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
No, the plug is yeah, the core with the plug
is gone.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
It's just gone heavy enough to make me because you
go where throw hurl the entire ring light into the street.
And I go, this is a free ring light. I
don't know how much they retail for the point is I, oh,
I'm throwing it into the road and I'll just buy
a new one if I need one. In fact, I thought, well,
I'm not even going to do it now, now the
day's ruined.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
One cannot judge the day, okay.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
From within the day?

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah, or were we gonna say, yeah, I mean certainly,
you know what I forget to Really, it's really wise
to always remember in the middle of the night it's
not reality. Because I woke up in the night the
other day kind of spiraling these things.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
It's not real. And then the day tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
The moonlight's truth, and it's it's dangerous.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
The truth of the moonlight.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
I go into these these spirals of about cleaning, and
it's like funny to have someone pointed out to you,
like Chris like being like, it's always eleven o'clock at night, Okay,
when you do that, I start going going into this
thing about needing to clean up. It's like, it's interesting,
like mess really upsets me at night more than in

(07:32):
the day. It's like and it almost seems like it
shouldn't be like that almost seems like but it's like
it's like chaos.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
The chaos. Yeah, I can't do the case the.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
Cleaned up together ten minutes a.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Day on the phone, by way, that's real. Also, I
was like, and I should just put this out there,
how would I do it? And going a massive poog
sale where you want a lipstick? I tried once you
want you want to face product? I did two pumps
of you know what I mean, it's like so.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
All opened and a little bit used exactly.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Because it's just I have.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
You can't donate it, but like hardly used items, you know,
like what do I do? And that's what paralyzes me
is I'm.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
Like, what am I on the bottom of your feet? Is?

Speaker 2 (08:11):
You always say right right now? You actually are the
one that said that with oil, I.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Mean you always go to me when I was like, again,
use it when I can do your bottom of the feet,
And so then I was like, yeah, you have to
just boldly use.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Or but I'm saying or get rid of Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
I have this fantasy, of course, as maybe we all do,
right the minimalist lifestyle. I have five lips, six, I
have four shirts I have. You know, I'm like, how
many outfits do I need?

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Ten? Maximum? Like there's too much.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
There's two You'll notice I have two full clothing racks
right now, like my closet is a disaster.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
I live, I believe it.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Two clothing racks full of who knows what and you
know everything's on the chopping block.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Well, I got a petticure today.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
I have a question.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
It's Los Angeles March seven. Does that mean it's time
for sandals in this town?

Speaker 1 (09:03):
No, it means's Oscar Week.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
Baby, No, I know, I mean like Oscar Week.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Oh we theres always it's always open toe in this town.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Do you it's always open toad in this town. Essentially
occasion where open toe always is appropriate in Los Angeles town. Yeah,
you don't have to do it, but no one's it's
a winter. You're not like a packing that winter. Yeah,
that's what I'm Yeah, that's taking over the cobblestones. No,
it's Los Angeles open toe always appropriate.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
Oh my goodness, I just there's a closed toe to me,
really closes an outfit in a way that I like,
I can't help it.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
A closed toe closes an outfit. Would you say?

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, it's like it a hard stop versus to sort
of spilling out onto the pavement.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Oh my god, I understand open toe is is a risk.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
With a new lima.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Well's on out yet, Well, it's like out in London.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
I think I was actually envisioning a trip in order
to go there and beg because you can't.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
Even get it in this town.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Were they based?

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Well, I think the FDA hasn't it proved it. It's
just that powerful. And it's like four times. It's like
four times. Actually read my lima hold.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
On pausing for Jacqueline walking off the air.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
So hi, So yeah, I like to walk around like
this doing other things like I.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Really need to get back into it. Yeah, I need to.
By the way, it's like another week has passed. Walk
me through this, please, for the love of God, another
week of my life has passed, and I'm not using
retinal Okay.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
It's really interesting you say this because I finally.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Started on what what brand?

Speaker 4 (11:02):
T te?

Speaker 1 (11:04):
No, you got a prescription?

Speaker 4 (11:07):
Okay, Well here's a huge question. How quick does that expire?
Because I have it from like two years ago and
I'm like, is it expired?

Speaker 1 (11:16):
I don't know, but I'm trying to think what.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
Oh I know who just who inspired me? The Do
Skincare founder?

Speaker 1 (11:23):
Did you go to the party it's tonight? Are you going?

Speaker 4 (11:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (11:28):
I mean, okay, so this is great, but this is huge.
Do Skincare? We love do We were invited to a party.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Tonight, I guess start launching to celebrate. I have another
professional obligation. But so launching and some four are huge,
love the products, happy for them.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Major. Wait, So why did she inspire you to get.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
She was just talking about on her account where she
really gets into the details of skincare. She was talking about,
you know, with retinoids or I always.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
Forget which one's the one.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
But she was like, you use it for months and
you're not like blown away, you know, and so then
you stop using it?

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Oh no?

Speaker 4 (12:04):
And then she showed this picture of this like old woman.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
Yeah okay, and it was like three years of use
in this woman's whole like eye area completely turned around.
But it took years, okay, but it was like it
took years for her to become eighty, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
So it's gonna take some years to become seventy two.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
Yeah, we've retten like slowly.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
I have to say.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
I have a friend who's been, you know, doing retinal
really religiously. She's forty, doesn't look it, But what does forty?
We say, doesn't look forty, forty is young. I'm not
saying that to be like radical. I'm just saying like,
people who are forty look young.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Do you know what I mean? So forty is no longer.
In the eighties, forty was something. It's not anymore.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
Oh, totally.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
You look back. Now we look at what it's not people.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Oh this woman was twenty five, she looks sixty eight
because literally, yeah. Well also different because back in the
day there were smoking a lot of cigarettes. They were
drinking martinis around the clock, God bless them. Nowadays you
have the thing or young people look older because of
the work. Oh yeah, and now older people look younger.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
I saw a thing that was like, oh, you're age
and quicker than we used to do because of whatever.
And I was like, that doesn't seem true to me.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
No, I feel like I don't. I I was trying
to think of that. I was like, when will I
what what kind of sounds old to me?

Speaker 2 (13:30):
I'm like, I guess like when you're seventy, it's a
little bit like, oh my god, I'm seventy or something.
But I'm seeing sixty five year olds who are looking unbelievable,
and I'm you know, it's just it's it's changed.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yeah, No, I have to do it. I have to
do it. But here's the thing, Jacqueline, help me do this.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah, doesn't the retinal isn't there a period where it
kind of makes you They call it the retinal auglans,
like it makes your skin purge or something.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
Yeah, who knows me. Don't you use P ninety or whatever?

Speaker 1 (14:00):
You've been off it for years. I've been off it
for years?

Speaker 4 (14:02):
Wait? What is it?

Speaker 1 (14:03):
The P sixty? I used to use it.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
What I'm saying, I've just been off of it, not
because I stopped liking it. I just stopped. This is
why life is so impossible. You just stop these things.

Speaker 4 (14:11):
I know.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
We just like, I know I stopped. Why I know why?

Speaker 4 (14:16):
Well, it's like, you know, I work out daily now,
and you know there are years where.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
I didn't end like and I'm living those Yeah, And.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
It's like I had scaram me for years previous that
and been like, oh, yeah, this is how I have
to live. This is I'm happy and you forgot Like
why is there no retention of the knowledge of what worked?

Speaker 1 (14:36):
I know it's really hard.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
But who cares? I mean, who cares?

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Dodgers on the day and it's like dungeons of the
day don't judge loss of years there's just no you know,
it's just it's like an efficiency model of one's life
is simply untenable.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
Absolutely like yes years live fallow. Who cares.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
It's like you know what I mean? Like, oh, completely
completely this like milk it.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Yeah, I've been doing a little casual work in front
of the television.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
It is like an add thing the brain. You let
the brain sort of you partially give it something to
kind of havel do, leaving just enough brain power to
do the work that I struggle with doing when I'm
too much of my brain is brought to it.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
What's the work?

Speaker 3 (15:31):
So like, okay, like let's say I'm just trying to
lightly edit a document but normally full full of caffeine
at my desk. The document is expanding with new ideas. Okay,
but I'm supposed to be trimming it. It's like, okay,
we're putting on dateline and I trim a little and
I glance up the screen and then I go down.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
I trim a little. What was I doing?

Speaker 5 (15:50):
All right?

Speaker 4 (15:51):
Trimming? It's like I need a little bit less of
my brain. This is like how add people get more
dumb when they're tired?

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yeah, oh god, when you hear that, Oh wow.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
Well and my brain training games like after two cocktails
when suddenly my scores.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Through the roof through the roof.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
It was one of my texts I got from you
that will live on the infamy as you being like,
I'm better on booze, should up it?

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
I felt like I was one of the most productive
people and I felt like a mother of six because
I scheduled a just a mole check a druma Can
you imagine this a.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Medical years ago? I did that dermatology just checked.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Well, it's terrifying when they start doing it because you
were because she starts checking my scalp, which is good, yeah,
and you go, how fucking terrifying? Can you imagine you
just living your life here? We are sunscreen on the
face screen, something on your scalp takes you out, fucking
helen or she's checking between my toes, and then I
start going, really, you should actually be checking my asshole
like so much of medical stuff.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
As I joke, I send it to the sky.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Oh, because I'm like, what if there is something on
my asshole? Like what if there's a mole in my
asshole that I've never seen? Well, I think, I think
no one's ever seen and that mole needs.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
Some damage, doesn't get there right?

Speaker 1 (17:12):
But can't are the only activated if sun hits it?
You know what I'm saying? Or is there something lurking?
Because she said something to me.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
She goes like yeah, like and you know, gynecologically, like
that's part of what's important to getting exam as they
look at it, and I'm like, wait, so a mole
that's like in my vagina or.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Like, to my knowledge, I don't have a mole in
my vagina. And let's be honest.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
I know by now, okay, folks, I was exploring early
with a hand mirror.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
I mean moles. Are there even moles on what's that called?
That kind of flesh? You know, mucus membrane?

Speaker 1 (17:47):
It's not really a mole?

Speaker 4 (17:48):
Is it something else? Oh?

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yeah, I guess I don't mean inside. You know what
I'm saying, like, what if there were a mole? And
then well I wake up? I think about this constantly.
I had an ex roommate who said to me, any
gynecology who's worth their shit is probing your asshole. Every
exam interesting because there's stuff that's like, you know, potential
tumors or I don't even know, but she I just

(18:10):
remember her being like they should be checking you rectally.
But because it's like frowned upon or like we live
in a puritanical society where it's like don't go in
my ass, women die or something. Yeah, or you know,
it's like this idea, like and so now I'm like,
what i'd have to do bag for a rectal exam?

Speaker 5 (18:27):
Well, it is like the outer wall, you know, yeah,
it makes sense the other side, if I mean, if
it's check up time.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
I was just thinking if I could pull off all
doctor's appointments one day year, like the main ones.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah, like nine to eleven, eleven to Yeah, I just
go through tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
I got my teeth clean, Like June six is like
is the day instead of just.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
How are you with teeth cleaning? Because I hadn't gone
for you?

Speaker 4 (18:52):
You know what? You know what?

Speaker 1 (18:53):
It made me feel good because he goes your gums
look good.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
No, I've been good for years because with that, because
you know, one they bother you, which is great, and
too walking distance.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
Oh it's everything.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Well, I feel like a little I want to think
because I you know, I've talked about Luccio.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Kim, you're an influencer of teeth. Yeah, and the hags
are going in there signing up.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Three feelings for you, Free feelings, I know. Can you
imagine going to get VB.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
And I'm scared to go in I'm feeling too sensitivity
and I'm scared.

Speaker 5 (19:21):
I have some tooth sensitivity. Oh it's hell and one
tooth when they're cleaning anything. It's just remember I just
surrendered transcend.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
I was thinking about you when I was doing it,
that you were saying sensitivity is worse than pain?

Speaker 4 (19:32):
Yes, and how did you experience that?

Speaker 2 (19:35):
It wasn't that bad? But since because I was trying
those unnatural whitening strips and I think one of them
kind of went a little too hard at one of
my tea A little upset in.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
The singers or the zuomies or whatever they call them,
are when cats run wild at night. The courtyard cat
has been coming to our door and meowing for our attention.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
So sweet, Oh my god, go out there, scoop them up.
Made a little box.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
You're going to be really hard about, Jacqueline. What I'm
looking for literally like.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Two for my parents? A cat?

Speaker 4 (20:07):
Two cats?

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yep, yes, bonded pair perhaps or not. Yes, if anyone
knows Los Angeles area. I want two cats, big.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
Cat alliance for my parents, filled with them great, filled
with sweeties.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Is that exciting too? They're down for two?

Speaker 4 (20:22):
Yeah? Well it's I mean, you know, classics.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
Happy right, the cats loved the cats love too.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
When I was seven or eight, for my birthday, we
went so this woman in the penny Saver with these
cats and we were looking at them, and then my
mom called my dad and said, we really like them.
We think we want to get oneies I get two.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Can you imagine that's a fucking daddy.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
That's Greg. That's Greg for you.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
It was and it was about.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
Like, yeah, like they entertain each other, you know, like
the keepers of the company. It wasn't like it wasn't
about extravagance.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
I know it wasn't about extravagance. Oh my god, Oh
my gosh.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Making home kittens, not even kittens, were taking cats because
you kind of know what you at.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
They're kind of cooking kind cook.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
I just call even full cats kittens.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
I call all dogs puppies.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
Yeah, some get confused people.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
I'm going to New York in a few weeks for
can you believe this? Only pleasure?

Speaker 4 (21:20):
No?

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah, how excited? Do you think about restaurants? Anything about reservation?

Speaker 4 (21:25):
Maybe you should go to.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Gonna go see Cola Scola's show. Oh God, jealous.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
Lucille l'ortel.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah, I'd say, good tickets, but I think you can
only get them if you're lucky at this point.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
Yeah, still you should try.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Maybe they do stand, but I still go to the website.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah, thrilled to go to dinner, going to go to Rafts.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Yeah, shout out.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
You got a great two explosive meals, two nights in
a row a Rafts.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yes, Oh, I didn't know you went bang bang That's amazing.
Is the best.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah, Board of the Ludlow, staying at the Ludlow really
forever shout.

Speaker 4 (21:59):
Out, big time and forever shout out God.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
I have to say something that I think this is
totally okay to say, which is that shout out to Tatiana,
who at the Lovelow has been wonderful hooking us up.
Huge friend of the pod. She is, she's exiting, exiting,
She's exiting, Jacqueline, You hear what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
I got the email.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
You're kidding disgusting because I emailed her, so I thought
it was just our correspondence. You gotta I'm today's my
last da at the love love kind of an email.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Yeah, what did we do? Is she gonna she's gonna
help us? Is she gonna set us up at the
next time?

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Well?

Speaker 4 (22:30):
Yeah, I was like, let me know where you land.
Of course, like the way I've been chasing bandeir.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
I would also like to formally say, I hope it's
clear if there are any or tropical hotels like us for.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
I remember when we tried to get Sea Bob and
they weren't interested.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Oh my god, that's right.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
I want to go to Sea Bob again. How do
you stay awake during meditation?

Speaker 1 (23:09):
It's hard? I mean, well, I'm actually it wasn't that
hard for me.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
You know, I'm way off. I'm it's devastating. I've abandoned
my spiritual practice and I have to get back on.
I was trying to convince myself I could meditate in
the bath, but I don't think that's true.

Speaker 4 (23:23):
Lying backwards even like lying down like you're doing.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
You know it kind of like sit up in the bath,
like yeah, partial.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
We're calling cover your shoulders with bubbles.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
You're not supposed to do like technically with meditation. It's
like you're not your head's supposed to be away from
a wall or a pillar or whatever. You're supposed to
be floating free.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
Yeah, you're supposed to be either upright with sitting, with
dignity or something.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Guess what I guess what I begged for? Well, no,
it's funny. That made me laugh internally. But magic mind
the little Macha special talk about add medication alternative.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
It's coming down each getting full month supplies. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:02):
Wait, is this someone that we saw on ad for?

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah? Oh my god, and I see each other. This happens.
This happens.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
We send each other the same Instagram ad at the
same time that we both get.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
I mean, that's got to be like ding ding ding
at Instagram headquarters, like where they're just like, look, two
best friends like to share the same thing simultaneously.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
The algorithm knows, so the algorithm.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
I'm working my trying to bring the corners of the
cheeks up. Look. I just applied to a lip glass
from Pat McGrath.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
Love Pat McGrath, What lilip glass did you send?

Speaker 4 (24:38):
No? I think it was given.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Can I see it? Is it in a tube? Let
me see Pat McGrath lipstix or.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
My wicked whisper lust glass lip gloss. Wicked whisper I
think is the.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Color wicked whisper? Hey, A good question for you? Yeah,
where are you with magic? I went to the magic
Castle the other night where I hadn't been about.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
To your call.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Years ago we discutt you'd be fun to go with.

Speaker 4 (25:02):
I sure would.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
So you have been?

Speaker 4 (25:05):
No, I've never been?

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Okay, this is huge. Yeah, double day.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
Have you been many times?

Speaker 2 (25:11):
No? I went ten years ago and then I went
this week, and I have to say, Jacqueline, I saw
some incredible magic. You know what I got to see.
I got to see full blown a motherfucker lighting a
match and then two birds come flying out, No birds,
white doves.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Magic.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
I saw this guy turn true the thing of like
here's a match. He goes poof and then birds are
just there like crazy shit. I saw him turn three
birds into a dog, a dog. This guy's got three
little poodles. I'm sorry. His guy's got three white doves.
And I was saying, I go, the doves aren't real.
I couldn't believe they were real, like the and I

(25:49):
and I was like there and I was watching them.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Going some kind of electronic robot.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
Yeah, like and then and then you smelled them. What
how'd you know? No?

Speaker 2 (25:58):
No, then it's like no, like, that's not that's not
what the trick is. The question is not are the
doves real?

Speaker 5 (26:03):
Right?

Speaker 1 (26:03):
I was convinced that getting them out of it was
too rich exactly.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
So then at some point this magician he's got the
three doves, he does something and then I'm not kidding,
just now the three dog there were there were three
doves in his hand, and now there's a small white poodle.
And then he puts the pool down, the poodicles running
off stage. Okay, I but they're happy though. Well I'm

(26:31):
gonna leave it at that. But then, but then this
was the thing that was crazy. And then he goes
He's holding a red scarf and a blue scarf and
a green scarf. I'm looking at the scarves. What's he
gonna do?

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Poof a huge parrot?

Speaker 4 (26:45):
What another animal?

Speaker 2 (26:47):
A fucking gigantic parrot, which by the way, I was
in awe of. And I was like, I'm actually because
I'm going whoa but I'm actually just going whoa with
the majesty of the parrot, like that's what I'm you know.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
And then I go oh, and he produced it out
of thin air.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
So so this was like crazy, it was I gotta say, wow,
it was pretty great.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
It was pretty great. And then oh, Jacqueline, you would
have flipped out for this. We go into one room
a mentalist, full mind reader doing the craziest mind reading tricks.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
Oh my god, did he do them on you?

Speaker 2 (27:17):
And I don't understand no to people around me, but
I will never as long as I live. I don't understand.
He goes, He goes, oh, this was crazy. I'm gonna
botch it. Even trying to retaell. It's like I can't
even try to retail magic. Everyone take out your phone calculator.
I know there's no phones a lot. Take out your
phone calculator. People have their phone calculator out. He goes,
excuse me, without telling me, please holding your mind and
number between one and you know, three hundred and fifty. Right,

(27:40):
He's like, you got it. She's like yeah, he'll point
someone else. You please number two one, three hundred and
fifty you one hundred? Okay, da da da da, and
then he writes something down on a chalkboard. He writes
a little thing number on his chalkboard. It writes something
down on his chalkboard, puts it down. He goes, okay,
he goes, man, what was your number? She goes this number?
What was your number?

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Adds them up?

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Okay, yeah, and then he goes, and what's the number
if we add them all up? Everyone's on my calculator.
There's the number. He flips around his chalkboard. That's the
number he wrote down.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Okay, interesting, okay, no, And then he goes yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
And then he goes, and then everyone add the number
or subtract or whatever the fuck to what's on your
calculator the number that I'm showing you that he wrote down. Boom,
there's the number. It's the date of that day. It
was like three five twenty four.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
That kind of trick is interesting to me because.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Does that make it kind of like, oh, that that
is just math or something.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
Well, that's what I'm wondering.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
But I saw close up magic with cards that blew
my mind saying card I was made fool because I
forgot the difference Beween Club and Spade did everyone laugh
mm in a sweet way, and.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
Because wait, I can't picture a club all of a sudden.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
I shut down around cards or like numbers, maths, I Jack,
I'm like, what is it, Queen Jack?

Speaker 1 (28:58):
I mean king order, Like I don't know.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
Yeah, I mean I would assume you'd be able.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
To figure out that it's pretty close there.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
Yeah, I mean hearts and diamonds.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
I always forget about diamonds. You can seven the diamonds well,
then okay, but then there is.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Second My cards is great, so like okay, I yeah,
sometimes I feel like, okay, it's hard sometimes to be
wowed by like close card magic or whatever it's called, okay,
close up magic whatever card magic, because it's sort of.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
Like I don't know what the hell's going on anyway, right, It's.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
Like it's like I'm not shocked, like I guess the
medium of cards, right, It's almost like I guess and
I would want to know. But like the history of
magic and card tricks, it's like why did they become
a thing? And it's like, is it because a deck
of cards was something that people were so familiar with

(29:55):
and with so mundane, okay, and that they're familiar with
and understand and know how it works, but then to
pull these things off with it, you know, it's like
holy shit, right, It's almost like they become so associated
with magic, that's what the hell are you going to do?
You know, it's going to like shock me, right, like

(30:16):
other than like you know, is there you know brilliant me? Yeah,
I just know, but this is like this is this
is just someone who doesn't have the information, just like surmising,
you know, like like people like if I knew my ship,
I'd be so annoyed listening to me right now. But
I also think, you know, sometimes it's fresh to hear
a outsider's idiot take.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Right, whatever is the wisest so fools.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
And little children. So it's like it's like it's like.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
I'm just reflecting on like I like, like on the
backs of fools, literal like this is just something on
the backs of that's great.

Speaker 4 (30:55):
Okay, So so it's I mean, yeah, I guess I'm
just I imagine you go into magic and and maybe and
I don't know, but I feel like card magic, like
is this thing, like are you respected if you if
you were to just not do that at all, like

(31:16):
if you didn't master that if you didn't master like
the shuffle or whatever, you know, like.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Yeah, are you is it?

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Like no one in magic like respects you, Like it's
kind of like right, you know, you need to like
hit those marks before you start doing other stuff.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Like you're there's something really funny about Yeah, the cards
have just become so commonplace in magic that they're not like, Okay,
well here's something that you did that was fucking crazy.
And by the way, explain this to me, Jackham. So
he says, to my friend, pick a number between one
and maybe it was a hundred something like that. She's

(31:53):
like okay. He's like you've got it, like like you
really have it in your mind. She's like yeah, and
he's like we can all, you know, assume there's no
way I could know, right, And we're like, yeah, there
was no way. She goes, he goes, what was your number?
She goes thirty eight. He goes reach into my pocket,
which was inappropriate.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
Yeah, disgusting.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
She pulls out loose change in his pocket, counts it
out to thirty eight fucking cents. Explain let me think,
Jacqueline explained.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Okay, this is all this all to come up with.
So yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
I like the idea of having no knowledge of magic.
But if you and me had to put on a
magic show and a pinch okay, well to save our
lives totally, oh we do.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
So if I had to pull that trick off, how
would I pull it off? Right now?

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (32:37):
Number one through one hundred? It was definitely threw one
hundred ready.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Or definitely maybe maybe it was fifty I'm not sure, okay, okay, okay.
And it happened quick though, to be clear, So.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
Let's say pulls out the coins for thirty eight, right, okay?
That add up to thirty eight? Right? How many coins?
Was it? Right? It was three pennies and a.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Dime and an exam or whatever?

Speaker 4 (32:56):
Right?

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (32:58):
Okay, So let's just say her number. Let's say it
was eight coins. Add it up to whatever?

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Okay, okay, I'm.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
Just nothing was okay?

Speaker 3 (33:07):
So then so then she goes my numbers are eight,
and he goes reach in my pocket?

Speaker 4 (33:11):
How many?

Speaker 3 (33:11):
How many coins do I have? She reaches in and
she pulls out eight coins.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
See what I'm saying, do it again?

Speaker 3 (33:19):
So in other words, he's okay, I'm standing up, Okay,
we have to pull off this trick to survive for
our lives. Okay, I'm quickly going, right, here's the best
I can do to try to make that trick work.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
Okay, I go all right, whatever this person says, I
need to have something that I can then go okay.
So in other words, bad, bad example will be. And
in my left pocket I have thirty nine cents, and
in my shoe I have forty cents. Okay, okay, now
that would be okay, look under your look under your
chair man.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
That's fun, by the way, walking around with just ten
cents of one number?

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Every number, every number.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
Reach into my asshole? You know a sign from that's
just seventy six okay.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, So you write numbers on different
parts of your body.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
Yeah, you go, pull back, unbutton my shirt now now,
I mean that would trickly, you know a five year old,
right like it would be like you know, but but
so I was just trying to go, okay, well what
if you don't. You can't hide every amount of change everywhere?

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Right, yeah, you go, there's no going.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
My idea was thirty eight cents, right, was what it
adds up to. But you ask how many coins are
in my pocket. If her number had been eight, he
could have gone, reach in my pocket. How many coins
do I have?

Speaker 4 (34:36):
Okay? Coins?

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Is sorry?

Speaker 4 (34:38):
So that would cover two numbers. That would cover eight
and thirty eight. Do you see what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Okay, but then you have one through you have the others.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
No, I know, but I mean I I can figure
those out.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
And that's I guess what the thrill is, right, is
that that's why magic is strange. It's like, we know
it's not magic because magic's not real or whatever. Of
course magic is real in other forms, but the point
being that's, you know, it's like, wow, people are really
doing these tricks, and so there's a strange thing because
it's like, well, we all know it's not like you know,
these people have mastered these tricks and they really fucking have. Yeah,

(35:10):
but like that's the kind of trick that I mean,
we were shocked, right.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
Yes, I don't know if magic once was it's man's
a wizard.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Okay, I think it was. I think there was that wizard.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Yeah, and then it became it's a charlatan, and then
it goes I want to hire a charlatan for my party.
He's one of the best charlatans I know, right, and
then it's okay, it's a skill and we should actually
honor this skill whatever. So then what does it become about?
And it almost becomes about like you can't figure out
the trick. You don't know how I did it.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
It's not right. It's like you know I did it,
but you don't know how right.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
This is all you're saying.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
I'm just I'm like digging into it.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
So I'm like in that way, like magicians are these
challenges to our smarts if you're not sort of trying
to figure out how they're doing it or something like that,
like is it fun?

Speaker 4 (36:04):
You know, like it's like.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
The mentalist, like I could not fathom number ship.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
You know, he was doing the numbership.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
But he goes, he goes, he gets three broads, they
go up there, you know. And by the way he's
doing kind of old it's like old world.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
It's such a.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
Way broad in the poodle out back in the parking.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
That's sure, all right anyway, sorry, but he does write
down your number and your phone number two.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Yeah, okay, I go that's not a trick, to be clear,
that was him being fresh.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
Oh Okay, I'm taking this guy.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Yeah this, yeah, refreshha girl, put your hand in my pocket,
dig around, you know it's like yeah, her fingers grazing
his flaccid Hell but okay, so.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
I had a joke about in my act about the magician.
Do you remember, No, if they're bumped down, that their
genitals take a space in their suit where they could
be hiding other props. It's great because like trick up
your sleeve, you know, it's like, oh no, it was
like and it was there one prop that like they

(37:07):
can't like suddenly bring out, like, but it's taking up
space in our suit where they've idden all the can't
just yeah, okay, so the mentalist really took you for one.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Oh sorry, but here's another. One holds up.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
He holds up a bag filled with pictures. Right, it's
like the little cards. There's a basketball, there's a there's
a candle, there's a woman playing flute. Right, a million photos.
Each of you take out one of these photos and
hold it in your hands. Don't let me see it,
don't anyone see it. He's facing the audience, right, they
each take the picture. He guesses what each of them has.
He just looks in their eyes and goes basketball. Right,

(37:44):
I'm seeing this? How how how?

Speaker 1 (37:46):
How? How? How? How explain it? Jacqueline can help me think?
Help me?

Speaker 3 (37:50):
How this is like where I'm like the blind leading
blind is fantastic, Like, of course I have no clue,
you know.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
What I mean. But I'm enjoying.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
I'm enjoying.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
Okay, okay, could he do it?

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Oh wait, but I.

Speaker 4 (38:03):
Wanted to say the one thing that I know I've
brought up in the passages in the Prestige. Great movie,
great movie, great movie.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Okay, Lars, Oh my god, Oh wow, you have not
seen I Love me.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
No, No, I thought I've brought it up like seven
times this podcast.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
I'm looking it up. Oh yeah, you're gonna love it.
Two thousand and six. Yeah, oh fuck this poster fucking rules.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Scarlett Johanson, Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Okay, to be clear, we've got Christian Bale, We've got
I think about this movie crow?

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Is that Russell Crowe?

Speaker 4 (38:38):
No, it's so bad.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
Yeah, Hugh Jackman, Hugh Jackman.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
And then we've got the two of their faces, and
in the middle, like a wisp of smoke, we have
the beautiful scar Jo Hansen.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
God she's gorgeous. You're gonna go nuts for it. I
need to watch this. It's immediately. Oh my god, I'm
so excited for you.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
So so I'll say, well, actually I won't say anything
anymore because there's like philosophical like little things in it
that are relevant to our discussion.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Okay, and we'll wait.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
Everyone can watch the Prestige. It can be discussed polm
quote next week. But it has it has style, flare, insight,
and I mean, you're good. I can't believe you've haven't
seen it. I watch it every couple.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
Maybe we should have Maybe we should do a spin
off and we to do a podcast called movie Poog.

Speaker 5 (39:39):
And you came up with You came up with that
title real quick.

Speaker 4 (39:43):
You know, like we should call it movie Poog.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
We just yeah, I think we should start folk Club Poog.
I'm going to go scrub my body, diffuse my hair,
put on makeup, put on a full face of makeup.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
Yeah, what kind of makeup do you do for for
if you're really going for it?

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Just curious.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
I just remembered that my that my brushes aren't clean.
I'm going to pull them tonight.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
I'm going to blow dry them.

Speaker 4 (40:12):
With cold air.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
I'm going to do some one actually did and I
have to. I have to.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Oh that's true, but there's no time. I have to
post on the poogram. I did take a picture of
my makeup that I've been doing. Like to me, it's
really going out from doing Armani foundation, like luminous silk,
and I'm not using a brushlet.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
They've been using it on my hands, using the hands
as the blender.

Speaker 4 (40:35):
Right.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Yeah, I'm doing Pat McGraths lipstick. I'm doing Pat McGrath blush.
I hope. So I'm loving her fucking eyeshadow. I'm going
to do brown tonight.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
I'm going to do brown eyes, brown eyes shadow, curl
the lashes, mascara.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
Creamy or powder? What the eye shadow? It's powder?

Speaker 4 (40:53):
And do you just cover the lid and softly blend?

Speaker 1 (40:55):
What do you might do actually tonight?

Speaker 4 (40:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (40:57):
You know what, I'm taking it back. I might lie you.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
I've been into doing it makes you feel like a
little slut. It's fun lining the water line in liner.
I might do black water line tonight. Can you believe it?
I can with not not not a strong lip, kind
of a softberry lip.

Speaker 4 (41:14):
What should I wear to the do party all right.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
I'm gonna send you a picture tonight and again this
is This was styled by Kimmy Auberg texting it to
you so you can see it live on air.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Looks like I have tits because it's a push up
corset shirt. Bitch, this is gorgeous. I'm furious.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
I need help.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
She can help you.

Speaker 4 (41:47):
Tid to run to the vintage store. I know where
I'll go. She can help you, but I just it
needs to be something that can be worn again.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yes, of course, I don't know. Okay, I'm gonna get
in the shower. I love you, all right.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
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