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July 21, 2021 122 mins

7.20.21 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Delta variant COVID infection surge; Okla. Ed board bans critical race theory; Proud Boys head pleads guilty to vandalizing a Black church in Washington D.C.; French President Emmanuel Macron made civil rights leader Rev. Jesse Jackson a commander of the Legion of Honor; Billionaire Jeff Bezos successfully travels into space

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Speaker 1 (00:46):
Today, there's two of the the July twenty two, twenty one
coming up. A roller Martin on the field, the Delta
variant causing major problems skyrocketing increase of COVID cases across
the country. Dr Ivnie Hilton says, I told you all
this is what's gonna happen. That's not really how she

(01:06):
sounded her South Carolina accent. You know what I mean.
In Oklahoma, the State Board of Education past emergency rules
HB seventeen seventy five, the band's critical race theory. We're
talking with the only black board member Uh who also
voted against it, Henry Uh. Enrique Tario, the leader of
the Proud Boys. He's guilty to vandalizing the historic Nasbury

(01:29):
not even for this church here in Washington, d C. Also,
a French President, Manuel L. Kron made civil rights leader
Reverend C. Jackson Senior a Commander of the Legion of
Honor Francis Highest Award. Will show you the ceremony. Plus
billionaire Amazon CEO Jeff Bezo successfully traveled into space this morning.

(01:50):
I'm swing the video. Also, he announced that he's given
Van Jones a hundred million dollars to hand out. However,
he was so choosing. In our next door black business
segment is with beautiful curly Mia business is fired by
and created by an eight year old folks. Is time
to bring the fall? Roland Martin unfiltered piscoll. He's whatever

(02:14):
the miss, he's on it, whatever it is. He's got
the school to back the fine. And when it briefs,
he's right on time. And it's rolling. Best believe he's
going putting it down from this lust to use to
politics with entertainment just books. He's scolling, rolling all it's

(02:39):
scolding Morte rolling with rolling and he's spooky spressed. She's
real question, No, he's rolling. Martell. All right, My first

(03:04):
guest loves to say listen, listen, y'all better listen in
her Charleston, South Carolina accent. I'm talking about Dr Ebdie Hilton.
She's been a frequent guest on the show. Uh, go ahead,
full of listen, listened. If they did listen, we wouldn't
be in this mess that we're in right now. So

(03:28):
so y'all, Dr Ebanie Hilton, she has been of course
from University Virginia, also a good stock consulting our South Carolina. Uh.
She has been constantly upset with these folks when it
comes to COVID not want to put their their mask on. Uh.
Folk getting upset about the vaccine. Uh everything. Got one

(03:50):
of them space age masks, Uh that she wears when
she's in the hospital where for four thirteen, fourteen, fifteen hours,
and they she don't even take it off to eat, y'all.
She ain't taking it off. And so you've got the
delta variant. That a chorus that is happening all across
the country. Now you have the lambda variant is causing
many conversations about vaccines and mass mandates. Here the COVID

(04:13):
numbers as of today in the US thirty five million
and nineteen thousand and five six reported cases of COVID,
nineteen and six d four thousand, nine hundred and nine
reported debts. Now we are seeing increases happening in the
variety of states. On the White House. Uh, they've also

(04:35):
reached out to Fox News regarding their controversial of COVID
cover coverage often disputed by Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, law
Ingram and others. This is former Fox White House correspondent
called Cameron talking about the spread of misinformation by folks
like Tucker Carlson. It's about ratings, just money, and ratings

(05:00):
ultimately precome revenue, and that's the name of the game.
Whoever gets the most clicks on social media, makes the
most money, gets the most fame, gets the most attention.
And that type of activity is not journalism. It's not news,
it's gas lighting. It's propaganda. I mean, just last week,
new infections went up sevent and according to uh, the

(05:24):
CDC which over excuse me, the n I H which
oversees the CDC, it is uh, absolutely point five of
those infections are people who haven't gotten vaccinated. I mean,
come on, anybody who disputes that sort of stuff is
putting people's lives at risk and potentially killing them. There.

(05:45):
Of course, last night you had all of a sudden
Sean Hannity with a different tone. I'm just curious, are
they gonna get sued or something, because normally, you know,
when they decide to change means their tone things result
of a lawsuit. Y'all. Here is the labormouth himself last night. Listen,

(06:08):
just like we've been saying, please take COVID seriously. I
can't say it enough enough. People have died. We don't
need any more death research like crazy. Talk to your doctor,
your doctor's medical professionals you trust based on your unique
medical history, your current medical condition, and you and your
doctor make a very important decision for your own safety.

(06:31):
Take it seriously. You also have a right to medical privacy.
Doctor patient confidentiality is also important, and it absolutely makes
sense for many Americans to get vaccinated. I believe in science.
I believe in the science of vaccination. They're just like
we've been a whole bunch of folks on Fox knew
not y'all, they got their vaccines. Remember they were complaining

(06:53):
about the vaccine passports. You do know at Fox News
they have to require that EVA come into the building.
But but just so you understand the game, that's Carl Cameron, y'all,
he spent years at Fox News is playing Check this out.
I saw this, uh where I was coming in and

(07:13):
m you just heard Sean Hannity there on Fox News.
This is media matters. Sean Handy tells his radio caller
he was correct to his ignore his doctor and refused
uh the COVID vaccine. Mm hmmm. See, yeah, I need
to understand the game is being played. See. This is

(07:34):
why we're dealing with the delta variant. And cases are
increasing in Texas and California because all these idiots who
keep missing to people like Sean Handy and Tucker Carlson.
When when when when you heard President Joe Biden say
Facebook is killing people because they allowed mis information. The algorithm, folks,
is drives revenue. And when you have these conservative people

(07:55):
on the right like Being Shapiro and others, uh Dan
bon Geno with the top numbers on Facebook, they're spreading
misinformation that ebony is the problem. They literally are listening
to these idiots as if they're giving them great information, right,

(08:17):
And it's and it's ridiculous considering the fact that you
don't have to I don't I don't know, the saying
you don't have to see a duck to know it's
a duck, like if you can hear it quack. We've
been now in this pandemic for a year and a half.
We shouldn't have to tell people that water is wet
and that COVID is dangerous um but yet here we
are and what we're seeing across the nation, we have

(08:38):
an increase in in our COVID cases over the last
two weeks. And if you think about the last two weeks,
that means January four, where everyone was partying. That's where
we're seeing these numbers right now. So how don percent
increase in new cases thirty or forty five percent in
hospitalizations UM forty five percent in death even though our
our testing is down thirteen percent, So imagine that we're

(09:01):
not testing as much as we were two weeks ago,
and yet our councilor going up, which is a bad,
bad sign. And if you're looking at it across the board,
Mississippi has had an increase in over three hundred eight percent.
If we're doing in at Arkansas, we're talking about a
hundred and UM Alabama. You can go literally across the
board and you're looking at two hundred three percent increase

(09:23):
in your new cases. And I hate to say it,
from Mississippi. With this, you know three increase, you don't
have the hospital density that they do in New York City,
that they do in California. You don't have the infrastructure
in place, so all those persons that are getting infected,
the likelihood of you dying increases because the resources there
to keep you alive are simply not there. So what what?

(09:46):
What what happened was ebony. We had these people who
we gotta open up, open up, open up, and they
will put in pressure those pressure on the Biden administration
to do so. Uh, they lifted up the mask mandate
and and folk just lost their damn mind. I mean
the moment the mask mandate was lifted, Oh, folks just

(10:06):
lost their mind. Now you've got Los Angeles reimposing the
mass mandate. Now they've got people who are mad at
them because they're saying, even if you're taking the vaccine,
where your mask? And we we had a scientist from
North Carolina A and t On who kept trying to
explain to people that COVID night, that that that the
COVID vaccine is not a hundred percent proof, that just

(10:31):
because you get the vaccine does not mean you can't
get COVID again. It drastically reduces the possibility and if
you do get it, it's not going to be as
fatal as it was um as it was last year.
But we're seeing increasing number of people who have gotten it.

(10:53):
Coco Golf pulled out of the Olympics because she got
COVID rich eyes in with the NFL network vaccinating. He
got to be on my mare Bill Maher, Uh, he
got it. That was another immediate person the other day
where and and Bay again alter the vaccine, but they
still got it right. I mean, the closest thing I
can give to people is birth control pills. Right, women,

(11:14):
we know we can take birth control pills. But if
you go and you're not protected, or you're not using
other methods of of trying to be have contraception, you
can still get pregnant. Same thing with COVID nineteen. The
vaccine is supposed to allow your immune system to be
ready on day zero if you get in contact with
someone with COVID. It does not prevent someone from coming
into your into your presence, coughinging your face, and actually

(11:37):
transmitting the virus to you. It's not a the analogy
I uses like a raincoat. I can have a raincoat
on and keep me dry for the most part, but
if I jump into a pool of water, I'm going
to get wet. Same thing with this vaccine. You cannot
rely on it to prevent you from getting infected. It
is supposed to be a booster for your immune system

(11:58):
to be able to respond and a thing I think
I said on the very first time I was on
your show. We use death too much in America as
a as a sign of how this pandemic is going.
There are other consequences of COVID other than just death.
The vaccine does a fantastic job of keeping you alive,
and you get infected with COVID, and that's fantastic. But

(12:19):
we do know is that long COVID does exist, and
long COVID is where the inflammatory process of this virus
literally causes your organs to work differently, your brain, your kidneys,
your lungs. And so their studies out of Standford, for instance,
where they looked at people who didn't present with brain
um like symptoms of loss of taste and smell, they
didn't have that, But when they did autopsies on these

(12:40):
people after they died from COVID, their brains resembled those
of persons with Alzheimer's and Parkinson's disease. We don't know
what this virus is doing as far as the impact
it has on your body structurally. And there was a
report by Fair Health of over two million people, and
what they found was that tree of those two a

(13:00):
million people complained of symptoms of COVID nineteen for at
least greater than thirty days, and that's what they were
using as a market for long COVID. And the interesting
thing was that ninety percent of people who said I
didn't have any signs and symptoms of COVID. I didn't
have a cough, I didn't have a fever. I literally
just went and got tested and I came up positive
for COVID. Well, nineteen percent of those persons like that

(13:21):
said that within those thirty days, something about their body
was different. Either they complained of g I upset, they
complained of what we call COVID brain fog our, inability
to concentrate, they had painful um experiences, they had differences
in their lab work. And those are people who didn't
even have any signs and symptoms that they were infected
in the first place. So to play around with COVID

(13:43):
when we don't know the long term impact they can
have or your body is a dangerous game to play.
You know, man, you know I've got foods on YouTube
going old. This is a con game. Uh and uh
you know this this is you know, this is a joke.
The vaccine as a joke and I'm sorry, it's it's

(14:03):
not it's it's it is not a get out of
jail free car where all I can now just go
out and wild and out and I can just walk
around and and and part of this thing was this
is where the information came in Ebony and where it
was a problematic because because then it was like, oh, well, no, sure,
if if you've got vaccinated, you can sure, you can

(14:23):
be in groups now, and you can be in groups
of you know, up to ten and twenty and everything
is fine. It was kind of like, yeah, but you
don't know if they ass got it great, And we
were saying that with the CITYCS lifting of the mass mandate,
we have to realize it was based on information that
was coming out of Israel. And Israel did a fantastic
job invascinating their country. They literally had six of all

(14:45):
their adults vascinated by April the third or fourth, the
thing it was, but they still didn't lift their last
mass mandate until April eighteen to allow for even more
persons to be vaccinated. Now we in the United States America,
we still have not gotten to six of our population
um fully vaccinated. If we know that, and so for

(15:05):
us to try to use Israel as a surrogate for
what we should do here was was premature in my opinion.
For one. For two, UM, we we know that we
have to think about COVID on the global scale of things,
and then also locally, so to tell the entire nation
United States of America, hey you can. You can go
about your lives and and take off your masks and

(15:26):
wonder about when we're having outbreaks in Missouri where people
are literally have to transport their patients out of state
because they don't have any hospital beds for them. We
have outbreaks in Mississippi. UM, Florida, literally one in every
five new cases of COVID is coming out of Florida.
Stay away from Florida. When we have those types of situations,

(15:47):
we can't make these blanketed statements and say go out
and be free when it's not safe and vaccines for
those persons saying that vaccines don't work. What I'm telling
you in my IIC right now, I have a person
half my age. Literally if they don't get a long transplant,
they will die. That's the truth of what happens. It's

(16:09):
not old people, is not the sick people it is
people that look just like you and me that are
struggling to breathe at this point, um, And it doesn't
have to be that way. The vaccine does a fantastic
job of preventing you from getting to that severe form
of COVID. Nineteen Well, my my one of my lawyers,

(16:30):
UM was misdiagnosed. UM absolutely believe that she has COVID.
Doctor said, you have COVID longs she had she three
months ago. She said, I need to transfer your work
to someone else because I am still dealing with COVID
One year later, and I text her the other day

(16:52):
just to see how she was doing, and she is,
she's getting better. But but this is a year later
and these people are playing games. You. You tweeted this
a friend who got vaccinated. I think she was. She's
a doctor if I'm correct, and got COVID. Uh. There
are so many other examples that was. That was. I
saw a tweet the other day where a young lady

(17:13):
out of Houston, she's uh, she's a pharmacist. Uh, and
her dumbass boyfriend refused to take the vaccine. Now his
asses in the hospital and the I see you fighting
for his life because he was like, oh yeah, at
vaccine is stupid. We see these other stories where people
were big, big time anti vaxers and now they're literally

(17:34):
fighting for their lives and they got these and they're
posting these photos of them in their hospital beds. And
I don't understand how nuts folks are on this. I
don't get it. I don't get it. I'm not trying
to play play games. I'm not trying to be sick
and and again bitching about a mask like first of

(17:57):
all ever, but he was so crazy. It's not that
many times. I'm actually around a lot of people, so
ill walcome to a convening store mass. Now when I'm
walking out and ain't nobody on my left and ain't
nobody on my right or in front of me behind me, hell,
I take it off. I'm telling it's hard because people

(18:22):
want to make it hard. Um. People will complain about
the wetness of water if you let them. But what
I do know is that those same persons who are
complaining about a mask, when they come into the hospital,
they're begging, begging for a mass that has some oxygen
because they can't breathe. And the I think what we
have to realize is the the burden that it placed
on medical profession. You mentioned um the retweet I did

(18:44):
of a physician who is now infected UM, because trying
to take care of persons who have COVID in the
in the hospital, that's one of my greatest fears. I mean,
I go to work, and I will go to work
and and take care of patients because that's what we're
supposed to do. But I don't want to die. And
so for persons to be as selfish as they are

(19:05):
to UM to say I just don't want this, right, Um.
If you have curiosities and you you have concerns about
what how the vaccine works, for sure, let's talk that through.
But if it's just say I just don't feel like
doing that, then when you when COVID, if COVID touches
your throat and you cannot breathe anymore, think about it.
If you're gonna keep that same energy, um, Because if

(19:27):
you're not going to keep that same energy and you're
gonna want someone to help you, then then help me
help you go get vaccinated. You can test your ZIP
code to get backs, which is g E T V
A X, and you'll have all the information of exactly
where within your locality you can go and get vaccinated. UM.
If you have questions, follow me on Twitter right me,
and I'll try to answer as many of your questions

(19:48):
as possible. But what we know is that right now,
the persons that are dying in the hospital aren't the
very old. Because we've done a great job about saying
our our elderly population. Over sevent those um elderly people
are vaccinated. It's young people and they're living leaving behind
their kids. They're living mind orphans UM. At this point,

(20:08):
you don't have to do that. You literally can get
a vaccination save your life and hopefully if you if
we are to get infected, if I do get infected, UM,
hopefully the vaccine will prevent me for getting lone COVID
and the permanent disability related to this this virus. So look,
I gotta this fool here. Y'all just mad because we

(20:30):
won't run off the cliff with the rest of the sheet. Okay,
Silver Harmonics, when you die of COVID, uh, let us
know your again. No no, no, don't say sometimes you
gotta go ahead. So Silver Harmonics, if your family members
are watching, if you I did if you die of COVID,
let us know because you were stupid with the comments

(20:52):
you made on YouTube. Then I got this first person
blessing season. So you trust the government. What about the
Tuskegee experiment. Oh hey, let me say this, but on
that for a second. Go ahead, because I was gonna
go ahead and handle it. But go right ahead, because
Tuskegee has brought up over and over again. But if

(21:12):
people truly know the history of what Tuskegee actually was,
Tuskegee experiment was carried out from nineteen thirty two to
nineteen seventy two, just ten years before I was born.
It was actually ended, and this is tiskey. Experiment was
actually the U. S. Public Health Service calling out to
the black community saying, we want people with quote unquote
bad blood to come in and we're gonna give you
treatment for bad blood. But actually what they were looking

(21:35):
for was people were syphilist and the thing with Tuskegee
was that they did not give them treatment. That was
the problem with tuskeg. They let's slow that down. They
were not injected with anything. Now, what they did was
monitored them. They didn't forgive them any They they didn't

(22:00):
they didn't provide any medical care. There was no injection
of black people to the Tuskegee experiment. Go ahead, right,
And that's the problem. We knew that the care for
syphilis in nineteen forty was penicillin. So for thirty years
they allowed this experiment to happen, knowing they had a
medicine that could cure these people. And so with COVID,

(22:23):
when we've been watching for this last year and a half,
black and brown people dying at higher rates. If the
United States government said we have this vaccine that could
save your life and they said we're not gonna give
it to you, that would be Tuskegee Part two. But
when we have now this whole idea of um, I
don't want the vaccine because they may be trying to

(22:45):
do something. Do you think do you think I would
go and tell my grandmother to do this? Do you they? Um?
Do you think you would see that the most powerful
people in our country were the very first ones running
up on stage to try to get vaccine needed because
they realized this is the only thing that can keep
them alive. To see two, we've already lost six hundred

(23:07):
and thirty thousand Americans at least, and that number is
grossly underestimated because we weren't testing a lot of people
early on in the pandemic, because we didn't have tests.
So when we're looking at that, it's it's again when
you whenever you're trying to come up with an argument,
and I welcome healthy discussions, but make sure it's based
in facts. And if you're gonna bring up Tuskegee, just

(23:30):
realized that Tuskegee was the holding back of medicine. It
wasn't the giving of medicine. They knew we were sick,
and they said, I'm not gonna treat you because I
want to see what syphilis does to the brain, to
the lungs. What is it? What does it do to someone?
If we don't give you medical care, Well, you don't
have to have that anymore. In America. You can get
treatment and that starts, especially in this pandemic, with again testing.

(23:54):
Get backs. G E t v A S your zip
code and you can find out where to get vaccinated.
All right there and Dr Ebony Hilton, and I'll see
you a little nice look cute candles over there over
your left shoulder. I got it in out. This is
a stressful week. No, No, you're you're trying to get
your little tent ten for ten on on on room

(24:15):
raider on Twitter. You ain't fooling me. It's a candle
from where you're going. You got the books, you got
the candles, you got your eighteen degrees on the wall. Uh.
Only thing missing your looking everybody else. That's kind of grief. Yes,

(24:36):
I ain't seen it. I'll give you extra grief. I'll
give you extra I ain't seen it. Okay, Charleston, I
have seen all right, what's that later? All right? Take
care all y'all. Uh or bringing my panel, but before
I bringing them in y'all. Uh. Dr Anthony if foul

(25:00):
you just got sick and tired of Center Rampaul's podcast.
They went at it today. Listen to this into something
if the point that you are making is that the
grant that was funded as a sub award from eco
Health to WUHAN created Sauce Covie two. That's where you
are getting. Let me finish. We don't know in the lab,

(25:23):
but all the evidence is pointing that it came from
the lab. You and there will be responsibility for those
who funded the lab, including yourself. I totally. I totally
resent the law that you are now propagating, Senator, because
if you look at the viruses that were used in

(25:44):
the experiments that were given in the annual reports that
were published in the literature, it is molecularly impossible. No
one saying those it is molecular virus caused the pandemic.
What we're led thing is the gain of function research
was going on in that lab and NIH funded it.

(26:04):
That is not away from it. It meets your definition,
and you are obfuscating the truth. I'm not obfuscating the
truth expired, but I will allow the witnesses to let
me just finished. I want everyone to understand that if
you look at those viruses and that's judged by qualified
virologists and evolutionary biologists, those viruses are molecularly impossible. Results

(26:29):
are pandemic. We're saying they are gain of function viruses
because they are not all viruses that became more transmissible
and human. And you funded it, and you admit the truth,
and you imply all your time is expired, and I
will allow witnesses who come before this committee to respond.
And you are implying that what we did was responsible

(26:52):
for the deaths of individual I totally resent that. And
if anybody is lying here, Senator, it is you us.
Come on. Dr Fauci. Ben mixing as the host of
Benjamin Dixon Show podcast recent UNDI principal filer Team Mail
Communications Ali PhD, former Senior Advisor for Environmental Justice E

(27:16):
p A. Ben Fauci like, I'm tired of this ship
he should have been. I'm glad to see I'm tired
of it. Um. What what Ram Paul is doing here
is particularly in the various because he is making an assertion. Um.
That is, he's insinuating that Dr Fauci, in this gain

(27:36):
of function research is what triggered the pandemic. And he
knows that while he's making that distinction in front of
the Senate, hearing that the Trump supporters are gonna just
run with that, he understands how to do this double speak.
It's very Orwellian, is very night four. He's a professional
propagandis is a press professional liar, and he specializes in

(27:57):
have truth. And I'm glad Dr Fauci read him for Phil.
What we're dealing with, Teresa, is we're dealing with Yahoo's
on the right, who are really stuck on stupid uh
and uh, they really believe this this kind of crap. Uh.
And that's part of the problem. Ron Brownstein tweet this
about a new CBS poll and the Trump voters described

(28:17):
January six attack as defending freedom. Just call it an insurrection. Uh.
That these are these are the y'allhoo's we're dealing with,
who are endangering America. Absolutely. I mean so I think
from the beginning when we started to talk about what
the pandemic was gonna look like, um, you know, I
think probably the halfway through, we were still in the

(28:39):
process and the research stage, so that of course there
was no plan in place. Um. So I think there's
just been obviously rhetoric that has been coming across either
from my media streams, um either you know, even from
the administration on and down, you know, from the beginning.
So when we look at now, you know, with the
race going extremely high and we're trying to figure out solutions,

(28:59):
we can't help to think about those naysayers in the
beginning that said this pandemic was you know, just not
extreme or it wasn't as penetrable as it is today.
But again, I guess that didn't matter what the hype
rising cases that we've had, not only in the US,
but across the board. Look, we're dealing with some crazy

(29:21):
people here. And look, if y'all want to be one
of these black folks who want to play games with this,
going right ahead. I keep trying to explain the folks
most off, ain't no flip side to death. I mean,
it's not when you're gone, You're gone. There's it. Y'all

(29:43):
can play with this all y'all want to. I ain't
playing with it. Yeah, you know, it's like playing Russian roulette,
you know, with your life, with your health, uh, and
your wealth. When you actually look in totality of how
you know, COVID nineteen impacts you. You know, we know
that we're dying a disproportionately, so so we should be
doing everything that we can to make sure that any

(30:04):
of our relatives, any of our friends, any of the
folks in our community have all the information that they
need so that they will go ahead and make sure
that they get vaccinated. But also continue to wear your mask.
We know that it's also impacting, um, you know, our
our long term health, which Ebony shared with us. And
then the third part that we don't talk enough about
is that it is also impacting our wealth because if

(30:25):
you get sick and you have to be in the
hospital for any amount of time, we know how expensive
that is. So any of those three reasons should be
enough for you to make sure that you stop playing
around with this um you know, with this virus, because
it's real and it's not playing with folks you don't care.
You know what color you are, what party you are,

(30:47):
it will take you out. Um. Look, people have asked
me when I am I going to allow panels like
yourself back in the studio. I said it's gonna be
another six months. I said, we we, we you are
not out of the danger zone. And so I don't
want panelists for the potentially exposed. I don't want staff

(31:07):
particularly exposed, because again, we we've got to be out
of this danger zone that we're in. Until folks want
to keep playing games, go right ahead. But I'm I'm
warning y'all, y'all gotta sit here, uh and and really
really really deal with this stuff, folks. And so again,
if y'all y'all want to sit here and don't take it, okay,

(31:28):
but guess what do understand what's gonna happen. You could
be like one of these people here who are in
I see you gasping for air, uh, saying please please
save my life. Why don't you do that before your
dumbass gets sick? All right, let's talk about this stupidity
that's going on all across the country. Uh, this happened

(31:50):
yesterday the Texas Center. This is Philip Lewis tweeted this here.
The Texas Center passed the deal to eliminate a requirement
that public schools teaching the KKK is morally wrong. That
same bill drop studying Mark of the King juniors. I
have a dream speech as a curriculum requirement. Not in
Oklahoma's the Voard of education. They passed an emergency rule
on House Bill seventeen seventy five banning critical race theory. Yeah,

(32:14):
it wasn't even being taught in Oklahoma schools. Other rules
implemented include check this out. Parents are permitted to inspect
school curriculum. Okay. Teachers who violate rules could face suspension
of their teaching certificate. I told y'all what's going on here.
These crazed, deranged white people, these white conservatives, are going nuts.

(32:37):
They're trying to group everything under critical race theory and
it's idiotic. But you see what's going on the Texas Bill,
and it's neighboring Oklahoma. Their actions is causing them to
have impact far greater than so called critical race theory.
Carlicia Williams Bradley is the only Oklahoma State Board of
Education member who voted against these particular rules. She joins us,

(33:00):
right now, take us inside the room. What what What
was the conversation like with a fellow board members who
are debating critical race theory when it's not even being
taught in Oklahoma schools. Now, you know, we had the
board meeting and there were several parents who signed up
to speak. You only have eight individuals who are able

(33:21):
to make it on that docket. And many of the
comments related critical race theory. Compared it to teaching and
talking about race and privileges in school as bullying. They
talked about, um, these discussions on race and racism lead
to things such as genocide and other countries. I mean,
the concepts that these parents and the fear mongering that

(33:43):
went into this discussion was just completely outlandish. And when
it came time for the board to vote, my fellow
board members were silent. I shared about the fact that
many of the comments that were made aren't even things
that are taught in a K twelve classroom when we're
talking about critical race theory and not truly understanding the definition,

(34:06):
placing everything under that umbrella. And what we're really saying
is that we are not comfortable having conversations about race
and racism, are teaching our true, accurate history, and this
is an act of a censure of our of our
history teachers, of our teachers in the classroom, and for
us in Oklahoma administrators, teachers, even myself. I didn't get

(34:29):
the final version of those rules until thirty minutes before
the meeting. So this is happening swiftly, and it is
happening in the dark. And just to put this thing
in perspective, wasn't it just in eighteen when Oklahoma started
teaching the Tulsa race massacre in Oklahoma school So it

(34:52):
took all those years, almost a hundred years, Bob. They
moved real fast on this one. Yes, and and and
it's so interesting the energy that surrounded Tulsa just a
month ago. We're celebrating the centennial, not celebrating, but commemorating
the centennial, a spotlight is on our history and telling

(35:15):
this truth. And many of the school districts began to
adopt new curriculum that was developed. And so now here
comes House Bill seventeen seventy five. And while some individuals
are saying, oh, just teach the standards and you will
be fine, it's the consequences attached to that when you
talk about making a student feel uncomfortable, to feel anguish
or guilt, and there being a penalty of your teaching certificate,

(35:38):
and even further in the consequence of school district could
lose accreditation, which means losing all of their state funding.
So there are so many things that are attached to
the fear that is surrounding this bill. The fact that
of the hundreds of education um laws that were past
that this was the one the only one that we

(35:59):
need to create emergency rules for that steps past that
public comment process. So not only you know, when we
think about finally getting to speak the truth and putting
that in the standards is three steps forward and four
steps back for us here in Oklahoma. And I'm just
deeply concerned at where we've landed, and especially in being

(36:19):
the only person to voice dissent at this sup board.
And the thing that the thing that we're seeing, and
and and and this is what people have to realize
when you look at that Texas bill, when you look
at what these foods in Tennessee have been trying to do,
how they've been trying to change the textbooks as well.
The real deal, these folks do not want race, they

(36:43):
don't want diversity, they don't want any of this stuff
being taught. And their strategy is to put everything under
this critical race theory umbrella. Correct. I mean, And it's interesting,
you know, even when you look at the bill for Oklahoma,
it doesn't say critical race theory in the bill. It
says that you can't talk about meritocracy, that you can't

(37:06):
speak on hard work ethic and it being related to
somebody's race or identity, that you can't make people feel anguish, guilt,
or um any type of fear in regards to their
race or their gender. So there's there's coded language in there,
But underneath all of it is the ability to silence
conversations about race, to silence conversations about the truth and

(37:30):
our history. And it is an organized movement as many
people that have reached out to me since the rules passed.
It is our community oftentimes reacting to the circumstances. But
to be honest with you, the conservatives were organized already
to be on that agenda to speak at this meeting.

(37:50):
They were sending hundreds of emails to the board members
days before we got to this vote. So I just
really encourage, especially as we look across the kind tree
and this is happening rapidly, we must organize and we
must elevate our voices. Well, but you gotta realize, I
mean this, this has been driven by Fox News, by
conservative talk radio. That's what's been going on here. And

(38:13):
so it is it is a trump up uh, fake conversation.
And that's what it is, pure and simple true, you're right,
I mean, And then it is it's a conversation that's
not built on truth. And even when you try to
approach the conversations about critical race theory not being taught
in school at all. I now see now that we

(38:34):
have passed these rules, there's another surge of um many
of the conservative think tanks who are saying capture screenshots,
do whatever you send, send reports to the State Department
about these teachings and schools. They are on a mission
to find anything possible to continue to ignite the flame

(38:55):
of this fear and really a false conversation, but it
has um the center of attention, especially in a state
like Oklahoma that isn't even funding education properly. While we're
sitting here talking about what you can't teach, we're not
even funding public and education to the degree in which
we should, so that it is really smoking mirrors. But

(39:16):
it is also for us in our state that just
finally began to reckon with our past, a critical and
pivotal point to where we have to say, not here,
not now. We need to do something and we need
to see something change. All right, then we'll look keep up.
You know the fight. Uh That's that's what it entails.

(39:36):
And I know it's it must be lonely being the
only voice dissenting. But remember Wisconsul and barbar league who
was the lone voice voting against that war in a
rock and she was hailed as as a fearless UH
leader a decade later. And so sometimes you gotta do
it by yourself when others don't want to stand up.

(39:57):
Thank you, I appreciate it. All right, Colleicia Williams Brad,
thanks a lot. Are are folks, Um, this is look
at my panel here, um TOAs I'm gonna start with you.
We need to understand what it's about coming down the
pipe here. What you what you're having is and people
don't understand what's going on. You can you can have

(40:19):
all the black folks in Atlanta, Republicans control the legislature.
In Georgia. You got black folks who are in Houston,
which you get Republicans control the legislature in Austin, Texas.
You got in your state, oh, lafece in Philadelphia, but
you got Republicans who are controlling legislature, uh, in the
state capital. That's what they fall The folks love talking

(40:40):
by local control. No, they only believe in that when
they are in power local they want to control everything
happening in these cities. They want to stifle black power. Absolutely.
You should see the amount of disproportionate um, not only laws,

(41:01):
but strongholds that they have on certain conditions here in
the city of Philadelphia. UM. But again, I think Republicans
that all are always thinking about the long game. UM.
So they you know, kind of gave up on local
elections and some of these areas in the Commonwealth, and
they have been focused on state wide appeal. And I
think that same message and that same UM strategy has

(41:21):
been working across different states where they're doing the exact
same thing in the exact same playbook. So I think
it's UM really incumbent up to us local elected officials
that are UM African American to strive for those statewide
positions and to ensure that their basis not only focused
on local issues, but stronger UM state wide relations, because

(41:43):
we honestly wouldn't have some of these issues that we
are today if they were in positions on the state
wide basis. It's all about power. It's about control, Mustafa,
and that's what Republicans are doing. Yeah, it has always
been about power, and this is you know, this is politics.
Folks know that they don't have any major policy to

(42:04):
run on in two or that we've seen so far,
so they go back to these old, you know, things
that they can try and whip people up about UM
and get folks to, you know, to get in line
with what the Republican Party thinks that it currently stands for,
what it does stand for, because they're the ones that

(42:24):
are supporting this, so we know what the game is.
We have to be very concerned though, that there's the
culing of teachers that will happen, you know, where the
subjectiveness of being able to say, well, you said this,
which was out of steps so you're no longer there.
And as we lose good teachers, we hurt black and
brown students who desperately need to have folks who look

(42:46):
like them who they can connect with. So you've got
the two different dynamics that are going on. You've got
the politics and the power that's going on, and then
you've also got the silencing of teachers that are willing
to tell the truth about the history of our country.
Ben I'm just thinking about how much effort that they
go through to ensure that um two things. They have

(43:08):
a boogeyman um like Mustafa was saying, it's a cyclical outrage.
It's a seasonal outrage. In a few months, will be
outraged over the war on Christmas, even there, even though
there's no such thing. Republicans are professional propagandists. They've mastered
the art of the talking point, and they understand how
to maintain and sustained outrage. Between elections. That's what they're

(43:29):
good at. The second things that they're absolutely committed to
making sure that the history of this country is never
told by the people who have been on the receiving
end of this country's power, and so the oppressors never
want the history told by the oppressed. Um. Look, folks,
just understand what's going on here. Look, we're trying to
warn you in advance. It's gonna ben more of this happening.

(43:50):
I gotta go to directly come back. Reveren Jesse Jackson
Senior is honored by the Nation of France. Will show
you exactly what took place. Also, later in the show,
we'll talk about uh black business and how you could
use the next door app to actually throw your business.
All of that don't move up next right here on

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I believe that people, our ages have lost the ability
to focus the discipline on the art of organizing the challenges.

(45:19):
There's so many of them, and they're complex, and we
need to be moving to address them. But I'm able
to say, watch activity, I know this roll that is
so freaking dope. What still impacts and what creates change

(45:47):
is when we mobilize, when we say we're not powerless,
and if I get with you and you and you,
and all of a sudden, it's ten and twenty hundred
and two thousand and five thousand. All of a sudden,
you have mobilize people. That creates that voting power, and
then when you throw somebody out, it catches their attention
real quick. But not only just that they have to

(46:11):
know what it is that they're standing for. Because if
you have friends that talks politics, then of course we're
having a decent conversation and I'm being educated at the
same time. But if my group of people are not
talking about that, then I still don't know. So I
can unite with you, and then I'm I'm making sure
that you have the voice, But what if you don't

(46:32):
have the courage to speak, So you're still getting a
group of people together that don't know how to do nothing.
George Floyd's death hopefully put another nail in the car
for the racism you talk about awakening America. It led
to a historic summer of protests. I hope younger generation

(46:56):
don't ever forget that non violence is so forward. This
is all riddle and you're watching Roland Martin unfiltered, stay woken.

(47:18):
The President of France has presented Reben Jense Jackson Senior
with the country's highest award. President Emmanuel Macron commemorated Jackson
for helping change the destiny of the United States by
making him the Commander of the Legion of Honor. That's
an award that many African American soldiers received in France
uh in World War One. They were also awarded other

(47:41):
French medals at the time when the United States was
not recognized in the bravery of African Americans. UH. Here
is part of that ceremony. The French Republic is grateful
for your tinus work to promote liberty, equality and fraternity
and full of hope you have instilled in us all

(48:03):
for over half a century. I just described some of
your main fights, your merits, but all of us are
very aware of this legacy, what you deliver, what definitely

(48:27):
is the privilege to have you here today. This is
why it is an honor and a great pleasure for
me on behalf of the French Republic to decorate you
as a Commander in the Legion of Honor. M m

(49:00):
m h m hm mu Jesse Jackson or no the
light people can say, lukupis Canada the last your donner

(49:27):
m hm hm hm hm. Yeah, all right, folks, And

(50:07):
just if anyone was wondering, um, Reverend Jackson was awarded
a Presidential Medal of Freedom in the United States by
President Bill Clinton in two thousands. Of course, UM he
um is dealing with the reality of Parkinson's disease. UH,
and UM it is important. UM UM I think it

(50:29):
is important that this generation and UH others do not
diminish Teresa, nor underestimate or ignore the tremendous work over

(50:56):
his life of Reverend Jesse Jackson, Sr. It is it's
very painful for me to watch him now, someone who
was such a powerful orator. UH, someone who UH is

(51:18):
arguably one of the top ten greatest orators of the
twentieth century. UM. But a lot of folks UM ignore
and dismiss what he has done and accomplished on behalf

(51:38):
of a lot of folks, but especially black folks. I agree,
and UM I think you know, as we talk about
what the next generation looks like, even my generation, UM,
you know Jesse Jackson, you know who has been through
a lot, who has um suffered Parkinson's disease. You know,

(51:59):
at the tender age of seventy nine, UM, he he
has been a monument and you you have seen him
in social justice organizations. You have seen a marching. You
have seen him establishing coalitions. He has been the foundation
of a lot of these institutions. And I think for me,
it's it's more so about remembering his legacy and remembering

(52:22):
his purpose. And I think, you know, uh, you know,
even this honor has shown that he is being remembered
because of the great works he has done. And I
think some of those uh, those works not only is
going to be remembered, but it's going to be passed
down by generation and generation. But again, we just gotta
again keep pushing our history and um pushing our legacy

(52:44):
to the next generation. And because I have spent a
significant amount of time with him, um will staff up.
Because I have um interviewed him on numerous occasions, folks
who uh, people who have known him if he meaned

(53:08):
R King's lieutenants. UM. I think in many ways, because
Reverend was in so many places, he was so familiar
to a lot of people that folks did have not
really had the reverence, if you will, uh, and the

(53:31):
appreciation for what he has done. I mean, Reverend Jackson
is a is a treasure. You know, He's not just
an American treasure. He is a planetary treasure and the
work that he has done. And you know, some folks
know about the work that he did with Dr King,
a transformational work of the civil rights movement, you know,

(53:54):
the founding of Rainbow Push, bringing all kinds of people
together push for social justice, for workers rights, and really
trying to make sure the real change actually happened, you know,
running for president and actually pulling together a fantastic democratic
campaign in that space, you know, reaching across uh international

(54:17):
borders and helping to free folks who had been you know, kidnapped,
um and all these other types of things that that
are a part of his legacy. You know, my grandmother
once said, you know, don't give me roses after I'm gone,
give them to me while I'm here. And we truly
want to honor um Rev. Then let's make sure that

(54:38):
we're uplifting his story. But you know, we have to
also start to push and make sure that many of
these these buildings have his name and other great men's
names on it. When we go to Capitol Hill, why
don't we see, you know, a building named after Jesse
Jackson Jr. Or John Lewis or number the other greats

(54:58):
who have been apart not just a of our past history,
but continue to make history to this day. So you know,
I'm thankful to the French for what they've done for
our people in the past, and that they continue to
honor our folks in a way that sometimes we don't
do it ourselves in our own country. And we've got
to push, because if we don't push to make sure

(55:18):
that they're honored, nobody else will. Uh. Benjamin Um, I've
I've never traveled ire nationally Reverend Jackson, but many folks
have made it clear that he is often treated like
a head of state when he goes overseas. And uh.
And I'll say this, and I don't care what anybody

(55:41):
has to say. Um, you could talk about uh today,
you could talk about the n double A CP, multiple presidents.
You can talk about the National Urban League, multiple presidents. Uh.
You can talk about Reverend Sharpton, other civil rights leaders.
But I can tell you right now that they're none

(56:03):
of them, none of them. None of them have the
stature and and have been who can and and have
the ability to pick in in his prime, going in
the seventies and the eighties and the nineties and in
two thousand, who could pick the phone up and make

(56:27):
things happen, and four ce ceo s uh to drop
their schedules to meet with him. Uh that that And
I'm and and and I long said, I long said
this to a lot of people. I said, uh, what
happens when Reverend Jackson is no longer on the stage.

(56:50):
And a lot of people and I get folks who
say we don't need to have the one leader. I
totally get that. But what I was trying to get
people to understand was the influence and the power to
be able uh to to to to impact things. And
that's the piece right there, this battle that we're having

(57:10):
right now with ad agencies. I'll say it, if Reverend
Jackson was not uh significantly slowed uh in his speech
hurt by Parkinson's uh, his voice uh would be his
voice would be very loud and persisted on this issue.
And and and again, I don't care, and I and

(57:32):
I know all of them. I know all the civil
rights folks from Sharpton and Derek Johnson and Mark Moreal.
We can go on and on and on, but the
realities is here. None of them can and hold a
candle to Reverend Jackson. H. I'm thinking of two things.
I'm thinking of the funeral of C. L. Franklin when

(57:53):
Jesse Jackson was there UH and Jasper Williams was preaching.
It was I don't know what year was, but I
I couldn't have been but a boy. I saw the
tape of it, and Jesse Jackson was moving with a
style and a grace that matched his commitment to black
people and human rights. And he has always had that
that grace and that that soul deep down in him.

(58:16):
That manifested not only in how he responded to the
preached gospel being Reverend Jesse Jackson, but also to the
liberation aspect of the gospel. And I I also am
reminded of I think Roland. You had him on back
when it was the year anniversary of George Floyd's death,
and he was on with UH, Carlton Pearson and Jamal

(58:37):
Bryant that day and I heard him. I heard him.
He still has the same level of brilliance, but you
could see, but you could see the struggle with Parkinson's
and and I just see a struggle of a of
a brilliant man who still has so much more that
he could say. But like you said, like just to fight,
the physical fight. Uh. He hasn't let his album. Even

(59:00):
if it slowed him down. He is still one of
the most brilliant men I've ever heard speak. And again,
he was with Reverend Barbara a week or two ago,
got arrested here in in d c H fighting for
voting rights, and the dealers is here. Uh. He's not perfect.
Nobody is perfect. M Oka wasn't perfect. JFK wasn't perfect.
Lb J wasn't perfect. Uh. And we we understand that.

(59:21):
I'm gonna many of y'all probably have have have never
seen this. A lot of y'all who are watching and listening, UM,
I probably listen to this at least six to eight
times a year. UM. And I brought it forward. But
if y'all really want to understand what Benjamin just said,

(59:47):
I need the last seven minutes of Reverend Jesse Jackson
Seniors speech at the nineteen eight Democratic National Convention in Atlanta.

(01:00:09):
If listening to the last if you are not moved
to tears listening to the last seven minutes, I mean
I can actually my eyes can well up even just
talking about it. So understand setting y'all understand this is
his second presidential run he comes in second to Michael

(01:00:32):
Dukaka's anyone who remembers that he took a bust a
bus from Chicago to Atlanta and it was as if
he was the candidate going to claim the nomination in Atlanta.
But I want you to listen. And again I pulled
it a little bit before to just to set it up.

(01:00:55):
But the brilliance. And that's why when all the folks
talking about Obama's two thousand four speech, you know, not
blue stags, not red stags, not y'all. I'm sorry. I mean,
I look, I know, my, my, my, my, white commentators
on CNN, they just went crazy with that. I was like, y'all,

(01:01:15):
I'm I'm I'm sorry. That don't even touch Reverends eighty
four or his eight eight speech. It just don't. But
I need you to listen to this. And again, a
lot of y'all have never I posted this on Instagram
a couple of years ago. People had never heard this,
were blown away. Check this out. But then, for our children,

(01:01:44):
young American hold your head high. Now we can win.
We must not lose. For the drugs and violence, premature pregnancy, suicide, cynicism,
pisciments them and the spam. We can win wherever you
are tonight, I challenge you the hope and the dream.

(01:02:07):
Don't submerge your dreams. Exercise above all else, even on drug.
Dream of the day you're drug free, even in the gutter,
Dream of the day that you will be up on
your feet again. You must never stop dreaming. Face reality, yes,

(01:02:31):
but don't stop with the way things are. Dream of
things as they ought to be. Dream Face pain, but
love hope, faith and dreams, and have your rise above
the pain. Use hope and imagination as weapons of survival
and progress. But you keep on dreaming. Young America. Dream
or peace. Peace, It's rational and reasonable. Wall is irrationalble

(01:02:57):
in this age and unwinnable. Dream of teachers who teach
for life and not for a living. Dream of doctors
will concern more about public health than private wealth. Dream
of lawyers more concerned about justice and the judge ship.
Dream of preachers will concerned more about conferences than properteering.

(01:03:19):
Dream on the high road, sound values and then America
to go forth to September October Noveleman, then beyond America
must never surrender to a high moral challenge. Do not
surrender the drugs. The best drug policy is a no

(01:03:42):
fresh use. Th surrender with needles and cynicism. Let's have
no fresh use on the one hand, are clinics on
the other. Never surrender, young America, go forward. America must
never surrender the man who should. We can feed the
hunger and clothe the naked. We must never surrender. We

(01:04:06):
must go forward. We must never surrender to a literacy,
invest in our children. Never surrender, and go forward. You
must never surrender the inequality. Women cannot compromise e r
A or comparable world. Women are making six asssts on

(01:04:27):
the dollar. That where the man makes, women cannot by meat.
Cheaper women cannot by bread. Cheaper women cannot thy milk.
Cheaper women deserve to get paid for the work that
you do. It's right and it's fair. Don't surrender, my friends,

(01:04:53):
those who have age tonight, you deserve our compassion. He
must age. You must not render in your wheel chairs.
I see you sitting here to night in those wheel chairs.
I've stayed with you, I've reached out to you across
our nation, and don't you give up. I know it's tough.
Sometime people look down on you. It took you a

(01:05:15):
little more effort to get here tonight. And no one
should look down on you, but sometimes mean people do.
You're only justification we have for looking down on someone
is that we're gonna stop and pick them up. But
even in your wheel chairs, don't you give up? We
cannot forget fifty years ago when I back to against

(01:05:36):
the wall, Ruisa Belt was in the wheelchair. I would
rather have ruisea belt in the wheelchair, the Reagan and
Bush on the horse. Don't you surrender and don't you
give up? Don't surrender and don't give up? Why I

(01:06:00):
cannot challenge you this way? Jesse Jackson, you don't understand
my situation. You'd be on television. You don't understand. I
see what you with the big people. You don't You
don't understand my situation. I understand you see me on TV,

(01:06:26):
but you don't know the me that makes me me.
They wonder why does Jesse it run? Because they see
me running for the White House. They don't see the
house I'm running from. I have a story. I wasn't

(01:06:48):
always on television, Rogers, when I always outside my door
when I was born late one afternoon October in Greenville,
South Carolina, no riders asked my mother her name. Nobody
chose to write down our dress. Her mama was not

(01:07:09):
supposed to make it, and I was not supposed to
make it. You see, I was born to teenage mother
who was born the teenage mother. I understand. I know
abandonment and people being mean to you and saying you're

(01:07:31):
nothing and nobody and could never be the thing. I understand.
Jesse Jackson, it's my third name. I'm adopted. When I
had no name, my grandmother gave me her name. My
name was Jesse Burne and I was twelve, so I

(01:07:53):
wouldn't have a blank space. She gave me a name
to hold me over. I understand for nobody knows your name.
I understand when you have no name. I understand. I
wasn't born in the hospital. Mama didn't have insurance. I

(01:08:18):
was born in the bed at house. I really do understand.
Born in the three room house, bathroom in the backyard,
slop job by the bed, no hard and cold running water.
I understand wall paper used for decoration, no but windbreaker.

(01:08:46):
I understand. I'm a working person's person. That's why I
understand you. Whether you're black and white, I understand work.
I was not born in the silver sporn in my
mouth as the shuple program from my hand, my mother
are working a woman some of the day. She went
to work earlier rons and our stockings. She knew better

(01:09:12):
machine rule runs and her stockings so that my brother
and I could have matching socks and not be laughed
at this school. I understand at three o'clock on Thanks
You even day, we couldn't eat turkey because Mama was
paying somebody else's turkey. At three o'clock we had to
play in football if they'll detain ourselves. And then around

(01:09:35):
six o'clock she would get off the After this the
bust and we would bring up the leftovers and get
I took in leftovers the caucus the cranberriers around eight
o'clock at night. I really do understand every one of
these funny labels they put on you, those of you
who are watching this broadcast at night in the projects

(01:09:55):
on the corners, I understand, call your outcast low down.
You can't make it. You're nothing. You're from nobody sub
class on the class. When you see Jesse Jackson, when
my name goes in nomination, your name go to in
nomination I was born in the slum. For the slum

(01:10:17):
is not going in me, and it wasn't going in you.
And you can make it wherever you are the night
you can make it me. Hold your head high, stick
your chest out, you can make it. It gets stopped sometimes,
but the morning comes. Don't you surrender suffering, greet character, character,

(01:10:42):
priest's faith. In the end, faith will not to support you.
Must not surrender. You may or may not get that,
but just thought that you are qualified when you hold
on and hold out. We must never surrender. America will
get better and better. Keep hope alone, Keep hope alive.

(01:11:05):
Chiep hope alive on tomorrow night and the yon cheep
hope alive. I love you very much. I love you
very much. That that right there, um is I dare

(01:11:38):
say why it is? Um it is? It is hard
to to to look at today because we we are
so used to um uh we we I think for
a lot of us got so used to uh hearing him.
And I would say it's akin uh ben to not

(01:12:01):
being able to hear someone else who suff from parkiss
Muhammad ailen uh And and which which is the value
of video? The value uh with someone had did, said
so much and did so much the ability to be
still be able, uh to hear it today and so
again for a lot of people who who never saw

(01:12:22):
a hurt that, uh, they probably were like, Yo, yeah,
that was a night, Yeah it was. And I was
looking at the date it was, it was July twenty.
It was a day today, Um that he gave that speech.
And Um. One of the things that jumps out to
me Roland is it's just how how magnificent that brother

(01:12:44):
Wood is as a word smith. And I still hear
that calculus going on as he's contemplating how to speak,
even with the inhibition or the the Parkinson's holding him back,
that that same brilliance is still calculating, uh in his
mind every time I hear him speaking. I think you
for sharing that entire clip, because I've I've seen it.
I don't know if I've seen it as many times

(01:13:05):
as you, but I do know that that is one
of the most powerful speeches that I've ever seen, definitely
from Reverend Jackson, but period. It's one of the most
proferful speak and and most awful for the people who,
again who don't understand the eight run presidential candidates were

(01:13:27):
not talking about apartheid, right, they were not talking about
universal health care. When you if you, if you, people
need to under for the people out here, y'all need
to understand Bernie Sanders agenda in two sixteen and was

(01:13:50):
straight out of Reverend Jackson. It's amazing the people who
call themselves if Reverend Jackson's those two runs were sold,
it's they scared the living ship out of the Democratic Party.
That that's what led to the creation of the Democratic

(01:14:10):
Leadership Council, the d C, which which led to the
election of Bill Clinton. They were scared to death of
this black man and his progressive agenda. He was and
is a transformational figure in American history and American politics
and the labor movement. So many different so many different

(01:14:32):
genres that he was able to navigate. And you know,
he brought that Greenville, South Carolina, that country swag, which
is so important because people can connect with that because
they know you're just telling it to him real and
that you're not putting on airs. And some of us
who got a country background would sometimes say, and that
was that was Reverend Jackson. I remember when I was

(01:14:53):
working for John Conyers, and I remember the first time
he walked into office and put his hand on my
shoulder and I looked up and saw on him. And
then as soon as we got to talk, and ran
to the back and called my mama to tell her
that I had just officially met Jesse Jackson. I mean,
he was just real. He's so incredibly real and such
a blessing for our country that have had before and

(01:15:15):
to still have. And that's why I say we gotta honor.
We gotta continually honor. And you know all these people
do the remixes, you know, Bernie and President Obama and
a number of others. He was the originator, uh, you know,
as James Brown wants you used to say so, he
was the originator of his space and we should honor
that absolutely. And to Teresa, when again when we talk

(01:15:36):
about that agenda, when we talk about where we are today, Uh,
it was that run in nine completely transform the Democratic
Party in the in black power. Um, people don't understand,
do Cacus and the white Democrats had to negotiate with

(01:15:57):
Reverend Jackson. That's Ron Brown becomes the first African American
Chair of the Democratic National Committee. Not only that Reverend Jackson,
the late doctor Ron Walters with Ron Brown, they changed
the Democratic Party rules to go from winner take all,
too proportional, uh to to proportional delegation. Here's the deal,

(01:16:22):
folks and peace. Somebody was like rolling, You ain't got
to compare Reverend Jackson and Obama. Here's the deal. Reverend
Jackson does not change the rules in nineteen eight, there
is no Obama presidency because in if people and y'all

(01:16:43):
can sit here, y'all all people who love Obama and
oh my god, he's out forever. President Michelle's out forever,
first Lady, facts are facts. In two thousand eight, Obama
lost Texas, Pencil, Vania, Ohio, Nevada, California. If the nineteen

(01:17:09):
eight rules were in place, Hillary Clinton wins all of
the big states, grabs those super delegates, and wins the nomination.
So for everybody, and then look, I noticed stuff Reverend
said about Obama, y'all. I know a backstory y'all don't
even know, and I ain't even gonna get into it.

(01:17:31):
But to understand why the why, I the reason I
still call Reverend Jackson. And there's a lot of media people,
including black media people, who no longer call his phone.
There's A reason why we still call him is because
I will not disrespect how he changed the game for

(01:17:53):
a whole lot of us. Absolutely, And and you know,
I Reverend Jackson, as I think, has done the original
blueprint of what it means to actually run as a
black elected official, um or even elected official that without boundaries.
So he has made sure that when it came to policy,

(01:18:14):
when it came to making change, game changer policy and recommendations,
that he understood who the people were. And so I think,
you know, and part of his orator ability was to
really put himself in the shoes and get to know
who the people are he was representing. And so when
we start to look at our you know, the elected

(01:18:36):
officials today, UM, I'm always you know, impressed with those
who are looking at a Reverend Jesse Jackson's as Shirley Chisholm,
who has paved the way, not just because they put
themselves in the ring and allow people to look at
themselves as uh, you know the first or you know,
they've done it and let's see what the results are.
But those who have you know, just went out there

(01:18:59):
into the deep um and allowed themselves to be pulled at,
to be picked um, but also just to be an
original person. And so you know, as we started to
look at our our officials today, you know, I believe
there is still that cord. Like I believe we also
have that fire within us. But it just takes um,
some of those remembering some of those clips to bring

(01:19:21):
you know, that that real potential that we all have
in us in order to get you know, our country
in the right direction. I just want to And again, folks,
we started this segment of and I was I was
not uh planning to go that long and being I'm
glad you caught that because I you know, we played
it here, did not realize today was the anniversary of
that of that speech. Um. And uh you know the

(01:19:45):
French honoring Reverend Jackson. And you know you hear all
the time sometime what the Bible says about a prophet
in his hometown. But I just think, uh, and I
do I do this all the time and and um,
and I say this to a lot of younger black folks,

(01:20:08):
and part of this, uh, it's maybe Mustafa because when
you are in alpha, there is such reverence for the
seven jewels. Um. When you most fraternities and sororities when
we think about our founders. I remember when I was
honored with the National the National Association in Black Goermals,

(01:20:30):
the President's Award. I said something, uh when I got it,
and I said, N A b J. Don't ever hold
another event where you don't uh have your founders stand
up and be recognized. Uh, always honor your forty four founders.
For me, when I come across our civil rights veterans,

(01:20:56):
when when whether it was Congressman John Lewis or v
and CT Vivan or Reverend Joseph Lowry or Steel and
Bachelor Andrew Young, uh Diane Nash in Chicago, Merley Evers,
williams Um. I tell people all the time, go up
to them and tell them, thank you, thank you for
what you did. Uh show that appreciation because just like granted,

(01:21:23):
our seven jewels of Alpha are no longer here. But
without those who put in the work, without those who
found it our organizations, then they don't exist. And so
I think a lot of folks, and I watched people.
I watched people a lot Mustafa at events and they'll
just walk past certain folks and they'll just just like, Okay,

(01:21:46):
I'm just too busy, and I'm like no, no, no, no,
let them know. Any any time I get an opportunity
to sit in a room and talk with Harry Bella Fonte,
I do it. Uh. And and y'all know how I feel.
I don't at no, I don't like I don't use
the N word. You can't use it on my show.
But I will say this here. It was a Reverend

(01:22:09):
Sharpton's uh. I think it was one of the National
Action Network dinners. Uh. And we were videotaping it and
I came up to hair Bella Fonte. Uh. And he
turns around, Niko when you're taking me out the lunch,
And I was like, now, you know, I don't let
nobody call me the N word, but you are hair Bellafonte,
So you're gonna get a pass today. But but again,

(01:22:32):
it's it's always And I just think a lot of
people need to show that depreciation. And so whether they
are our star wars on the national level, in your state,
in your city, in your church, learned to show appreciation. Yeah,
you know, they've given so much to us. Sometimes you know,

(01:22:52):
we don't even know everything that they did, you know,
all of the sacrifices, but we know enough about the
sacrifice since that they did and they didn't have to
do it. You know, they were doing what they could
to uplift our people, to create new opportunities so that
the next set of generations would have an easier road
to travel, but also so that we could then take

(01:23:13):
it to the next level. So the least that we
can do is to let them know how much we
appreciate them. You know, if you're if you're a person
who believes in saying the word love and you actually
believe what you're saying, that you should let them know
that you love them because of all that they did,
and make sure that you're giving them that same energy
back that they gave for decades upon decades upon decades. Absolutely. Uh, Teresa,

(01:23:41):
I'm going to leave it there. I think you know,
Reverend Jackson, UM, this is again, while he's alive, we
need to give him as flowers, but we also need
to um ensure that those who are running today that
they are also focused on on the same priorities UM.
Because issues haven't changed, it's just a different spokesperson at
the time time. So we just need to make sure
we're keeping those issues alive, UM and make sure we're

(01:24:04):
putting fuel to the fire when we take that oath
of office final conna on this topic. Then I really
appreciate um, Reverend Jackson, Um not being the first person
to tell me, but one to say it over and
over again that I am somebody. And I appreciate him
being somebody who has invested his life telling the rest
of us that we all are somebody. All right, Then,

(01:24:26):
folks gotta go to a break. When we come back,
another billionaire goes into space. Do you all really care?
I'm just curious, do you really care? Uh? But he
also announces that he given Van Jones a hundred million
dollars uh, and did it for a chef Jose as well.
We'll tell you about those details. Plus our marketplace segment

(01:24:49):
when we focus on a black business sponsored by next
Door that is next on rolling my unfiltered Some friends.
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It's injustice, it's wrong. I do feel like in this
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big piece. Our conflict is not about destruction. Conflicts gonna happen. Hello, everyone,
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right back to the house. For me, it was a
very emotional day. Over a period of ten years, my

(01:26:20):
neighborhood went from being almost nine eight percent black to
being ninety eight or sent white. So all of a sudden,
oh God, I'm the suspicious looking black man. I posted
on the next door, and then I no longer felt
comfortable walking in this neighborhood. The response I got was
hundreds and hundreds of neighbors offering to walk with me.

(01:26:42):
This experience moved me and changed the way I saw humanity.
At the next door. We come to work every day
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we started this company, we felt that technolology had an
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We knew that having the support of your neighbors was critical.
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Little black kids often go to stores and see dolls
they don't resemble themselves. Many black children express their wishes
for dolls with the same skin tone or curly hair.
Mother daughter duo Ivanna and Zoe Uh have created beautifully
curly mead dolls, books, and other merchandise to inspire confidence
in our youth. All right, joining us right now for

(01:29:58):
our segments. Both Uh, the two of them. How y'all doing?
Hey you? I think I'm glad to see you? So, um,
where does it originate from? So? Whose idea was it?
How did you start? So? When I was six years old,
I did not like my hair and I wish it
was straight like my classmates. And so I did everything

(01:30:22):
I could to help um. And so, you know, hearing
my daughter say this to me, she actually came home
from school and said, Mommy, why is my hair not
pretty like my classmates? Hare? And so that really broke
my heart, because what mother wants to hear that their
child feels less than, you know, what they are. And
so I did everything I could to help. And one
of the things I did was buy her a black doll.
And I really loved that doll, but she didn't have

(01:30:44):
hair that looked like mine. I wanted a doll with
curls and braids, and so when we went to the
stores and couldn't find anything, I wanted to do something
about it. And so Zoe decided she wanted to start
a business, and of course I had to support her dream.
All right, Okay, okay, all right, so she but she
wanted all the business and but you were not going, girl,

(01:31:06):
you want to do what? I mean? Honestly, she she came.
She kept saying, Mommy, I want to make a business.
I want to make dolls that have curly hair. I
want to make dolls that have lobs and braids, just
the way I wear my hair. And I was like, like,
because I had my cushy corporate job and I honestly
wasn't thinking about this. So but she kept persisting, and

(01:31:27):
she kept just harping on it, like I want to
make a business. I don't know how this happened, rolling,
but here we are. Okay, so I want to do
a business. And so how did you uh construct your
first um products? Definitely a joint collaborative effort, So you know,

(01:31:48):
I wanted to really dig into what she wanted, right,
and so she was very clear about one of dollar
has curly hair. I want a doll that has braids
and so we just started to win the research. I
want to show your doll. We just started doing the research,
um and so just you know, looking online, reading off,
trying to figure out you know, manufacturing and and design

(01:32:08):
and all those things. So it was definitely a process.
But I would say we made it happen, I think
with tenacity and hard work and passion. And she kept
she wouldn't let it go. So we made it happen.
And we're still you know, work in progress, but you
know we're doing it. So so how many dolls have
y'all made in souls since you started this whole deal, zoy?

(01:32:30):
We have helped thousands of girls around the world with
our dolls. And I actually have a big goal this year,
UM to don't make five thousand dollars to underserve girls.
But right now we're doing it one thousand at a time.
And so the Social Empact, so for every doll bought

(01:32:51):
on our website, we give one to a girl in need. Wow. Wow,
Well that's that's strong there, and so uh so one
of the one of the things that uh look, distribution, marketing,
all those things matter, and so one of the things,
you know, we we partnered with next door uh, for
this particular segment, because people have used their apt to

(01:33:12):
be able to connect with their neighbors, to be able
to spread the word. And so how did y'all do that?
How did y'all you know, you know, starting out, it
is not like you have a big marketing budget, and
so how did you begin to build the word of mouth?
Did you do it with neighbors, friends, church, members of sorority, sisters,

(01:33:33):
other organizations? So, so talk about how that sort of start.
We can see a lot of people out there say
they want to start the business. Well, they but they
don't understand actually starting a business is the absolute easiest
thing in the world. It's ben it's selling what it
is you trying to sell? Right, So you want to

(01:33:58):
go go ahead? Yes, So we started off with of
course family members and church members, and then they started
telling friends and it just went from there. Yeah, and
we did a lot of shows in the beginning. And
so it's very intentional about that because I wanted Zoey
to really have that customer face to face interaction, um,
since you know, it's her business, and so that was

(01:34:20):
really great obviously pre COVID. So we launched in nineteen
and so we did a few of these vending events
and it was just so awesome, you know, having that
instant customer feedback and that really helps you as you
think through you know, what you're kind of product roadmap
looks like and sort of you know what you want,
what customers want to see next, because that customer instead

(01:34:40):
of customer feedback is critical. Well, it absolutely is. And
you know, and just you know, one thing I just
tell people is again, once you got a product, you
gotta sell it. I remember when, uh, when my wife
did her books, did her book, uh, Fulfill the Art
and Joy of Balance Living, and probably about three or
four months went by and I said, follow me, so

(01:35:02):
we're going to the office. I said, it's that. So
they were like, you know, all these probably had about
twenty cases of boxes that were stacked into the corner.
And she was like, those are my books. I said, no,
that's actually money sitting in a corner. That's inventory. Yes,
I said, that was money spent on those books and

(01:35:24):
they're sitting in the corner. I said, writing your book
and me ding your book was the easiest thing. Uh,
that needs to move out of this corner into somebody's hand.
And that's and that's the thing that a lot of
people again have to understand. You gotta get out there,
uh and work it. So so honestly to your point,

(01:35:47):
rolling like I would say, you can't rely on friends
and family. So while you're in the beginning there there,
you know they're supportive, they're not going to be your
long term customers. Let's be real because okay, so let
me so whole that point right there, because I want
to be could we need to walk this through people.
The average person also doesn't understand direct marketing. Was when

(01:36:08):
they when they mail that junk mail to your house
or when you're watching an infomercial. In the direct marketing business,
an absolute astounding rate is one point five p M.
That means that when they send that junk mail out,
an absolute fabulous, unbelievable response rate is one point five percent.

(01:36:37):
If if point five return by the product, they're excited.
So I say that because what your your point? People go, oh,
I go to a church and we got three thousand members,
so we probably can sell a thousand dollars. No, if

(01:36:57):
you sail thirty that's a great day. And people go, Okay,
it makes no sense because it's the one point five
percent rule if you sell. If you say, if you've
got three thousand members of a church and you sell
fifty dollars, you have far exceeded the market conditions in

(01:37:18):
terms of what you know mustould sell. And a lot
of people don't don't get that. They don't get that,
and honestly, that's the best way. That's proof of concept.
Right when total strangers are buying your product, then you
know you're in business. And I think for us that's
that's just been the greatest joy. So we were not
relying on friends and family. You know, we're doing everything
from digital marketing. So he goes live every week on

(01:37:38):
our Instagram and go ahead, we go live. I go
on live on Instagram and Facebook and do story time
with the dolls. So it's a great way to interact
with customers and exactly, and we do email marketing SMS,
so you know, we're we're testing, always testing different things
and just looking for for ways to continue to reach
our customers. Well, that that's one of the and that's

(01:38:01):
one of the when the folks had next door reached
out to us uh with their app UH and then
when I joined, I mean, actually, what's pretty cool when
because there are people who literally live in your zip
code where you connect with uh and and and and
and For people who are trying to be entrepreneurs, what
they also have to understand you got to use everything

(01:38:21):
at your at your disposals. So what you just laid
out is when you say I go live, I keep
I tell people that's free. Like that's free, and so
how do you and so so so what other social
platforms are y'all on where you're constantly putting the word out? Um,

(01:38:41):
we are on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, Interest, and TikTok at
beautiful curly meat. So on all the platform is beautiful,
beautiful curly meat. Yes, beautiful curly me. The only exception
is Twitter, where the character admits so it's a beautiful
curly m on Twitter. But everything else is that beautiful

(01:39:03):
curly me. I got you all right? Then, questions from
my panel, I will start with yeah, okay, fine, threees.
I'll start with you Hi, so one, congratulations. I think
my question is how come this wasn't around when I

(01:39:24):
was growing up? Because you didn't do it, Teresa, you
weren't you didn't do it. I feel like a question,
Um one, I think this is a phenomenal. Uh, you know,
just idea and it's necessary and I think coming from

(01:39:44):
a young person like yourself, it's it's so essential, especially
right now. Um So one of my questions is are
you working, uh you know, with Mattel and are you
in toy sores? Um tell us where we can pick
up this beautiful doll. Well, we are currently on our

(01:40:04):
website Beautiful Curling Me dot com, and my books Beautiful
Curling Me and Say It Show It are on Amazon
as well as on our website. So we are definitely
direct to consumer right now. But the plan is as
we expand, I will definitely explore options in retail, but
right now, beautiful curling Me dot com is the best place.

(01:40:25):
So again, they are direct to consumer, meaning they get
all the money. They ain't trying to have a middleman. Okay,
I'm just gonna I said, I said, I don't care.
Uh the next question uh has been been Uh yeah, no, absolutely,
congratulations on this. This is beautiful. I'm reminded of when
my uh shortly after I got married, Um, my wife

(01:40:48):
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you know, it was like mommy rise, my hair not
straight at the time. I had a long weave and
no no shape to anyone. But I had to lead
by example. And so that's definitely something that we see

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a lot of um here, our customers say that they're
you know, there's their children are really helping them come
into their own in terms of really embracing their natural beauty.
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children dolls that look like them because it's all about
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you inspire me and I'm gonna make sure that I
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I'm curious and I had to pull my hair down
to to be in lockstep with you. I'm curious which

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one of your dolls sells the best. I'm hoping you
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the richest man in the world, Jeff Bezo, successfully traveled
into space. He flew the edge of the Earth this
morning on a rocket and capsule developed by his private

(01:44:22):
space flight company, Blue Origin. The flight makes history of
the first unpiloted subordinal flight with civilians as crew members.
The entire flight was only ten minutes long. After Bezos return,
he spoke to the media where he thinked those who
made the mission possible. All right, I want to think

(01:44:51):
every Amazon employee and every Amazon customer, because you guys
paid for all this, so seriously, every Amazon customer out
there and every Amazon employee, thank you from the bottom
of my heart very much. It's very appreciated. The history
making flight comes down after Virgin Group CEO Richard Branson

(01:45:12):
flew to the edge of the Earth on a rocket
designed by his space tourism company, Virgin Galactic. Okay, question
for you must offa do you give a ship? My
question is why you know five point five billion dollars
from Blue Origin. Uh. And then of course we had
this billionaire space race that's going on. So I'm just

(01:45:32):
like they should get together if they are that interested
in space. And then the other half of money that
if they weren't doing it as individuals, they could invest
back into communities and make real change here on planet Earth. Yeah,
so somebody on YouTube asking why am I showing this? Uh,
because we're actually talking about it. And also today uh,
Jeff Bezos announced that he was giving handing out huge checks,

(01:45:56):
gave a hundred million dollars out of Van jones An
another hundred in the Chef Jose andres uh for them
to do work in support other charities as well. Uh.
And so I'm putting this out here again because it's
I'm still asking a question. Does does it matter to you? TERSA?
Is it? Is it of interest? Is it is there value?

(01:46:18):
Just your thoughts? Um, I think it's a it's a
it's a nice distraction. You know, billionaires going into space.
I can't tell you how many democratic emails that I
received from candidates saying billionaires are going to space while
poverty is continuing. So I think it was a helpful

(01:46:39):
conversation for them to help raise money. But again, if
we have so many issues going on right now that
you know, billionaires flying into space, you know, spending money
in technology, I think was you know, part one in
another phase? You know, Yeah, this video clip is so interesting,
but I think that the question, know, do we care?

(01:47:01):
Of course, we care how billionaires are spending their money. So, UM,
if they're going into space, great, you know, I don't
think it's a whole session about it, but thank you
for giving Van Jones a hundred million. I'm looking forward
to seeing how that trickles down the communities. M hm
hm uh, Now here's the deal. So there so a

(01:47:23):
lot of people being there were saying, uh, tax payer
money was wasted. Uh, NASA said no, billions were not.
Tax payer money was not spent on Blue Origin. But
this was a quote that came from uh one of
the folks, Um with NASA, are there are there are
billions of federal dollars going into what Jeff Bezos did today? No,
has the federal government put significant amounts of money somewhat

(01:47:45):
under a billion dollars any variety of areas for Blue Origin.
The answer is yes absolutely. I'm thinking about also the
fact that, um, we have subsidized Amazon. Some of the
lowest paid workers need welfare. UM. Jeff Bezos has managed
to get away with not paying taxes, a lot of taxes,
as as much as you would expect a billionaire to pay. Um,

(01:48:07):
he should be thanking the taxpayers for that, but he
al should be thinking his employees by paying them a
livable wage, letting them unionize, and best Alabamas that are
running programs against them. I'm not I'm not here for
billionaires to colonize UH space because we saw what they
did when they colonize this planet. So they need to
stay where they are and let the people handle these
types of things, because billionaires have shown that they have

(01:48:29):
no interest in the people. They have the interest in
their bottom line. So what about Mustafa uh the hundred
million dollars going to UH Chef Jose and Van Jones. Well,
you know, I have no problem with either one of
those UH folks, you know, if they're going to use
lots of dollars in the right way. But here's the

(01:48:50):
problem is that if you look at the billionaires who
have been giving these huge amounts of money away, none
of it has gone to frontline organizations are actually on
the ground doing the work. So when you operate from
that paradigm, it's very similar when we had enslaved people
in this country. But you always had this middleman in between,
you know, who's keeping everything in check and then doling

(01:49:12):
out what they thought that folks needed. And so you know,
we've just got to understand these these these paradigms, these
old paradigms that folks continue to work from that never
builds capacity inside of the organizations that are actually doing
the work. UH. Now, I will say this year you
do have, of course, the dollars that uh Bezos' ex

(01:49:36):
wife has given out, a lot of that money is
going to hbc USED. UH that has dramatically increased the
endowments of the hbc US. Uh. Teresa, she has been
doing incredible work. UM. I even think whoever you know,
ahead of the philanthropy and development has taken a crucial

(01:49:58):
eye to some of those grass ruts organizations that Mustapha
is talking about, because again, if we keep putting money
into the pot of safe organizations, we will never start
to see the matriculation of a great um necessity of
some of what some of these smaller organizations are doing.

(01:50:18):
UM that can better the community, that can better the
landscape around them. So yeah, she's doing incredible work, UM,
and I'm just looking forward to seeing more of what
she's doing or maybe trickling um to her husband UM
to do the same efforts in different ways. All right, then, well,
you know, look we you know, billionaires having fun. I

(01:50:42):
still and you know, I still haven't heard from somebody
why this actually um matters, like like what does it do?
It's like what's next? So I'm just curious a lead
of the problems. Please guilty the vandalising and Washington d
C historically black church. That's right, folks. Henry Enrique Tario
play guilty to one colend destruction of property and one

(01:51:04):
kind of attempted possession of a large capacity ammunition fee
UM ammunition feeding device. In December, he and other members
of the far right extremist group the stole of Black
Lives Matter banner from the Astbury not In Methodist Church
and burned it. Prosecuted say Tario posted after burning the
banner on social media. He was wrestled on January four
when he returned the d C, two days before the

(01:51:25):
Capital insurrection. The thirty six year old faces a maximum
sentence of a hundred eighty days in jail and a
thousand now refined for each offense. His sentencing will take
place on next month. Good alright, folks. Testimony continue today
in the trial of serial predator Ed Buck. When a
fourth victim took the standard described his encounter with Bucky
testified at the wealthy white Democratic donor called him a

(01:51:47):
nigger and white trash since he's of mixed rates. He
also described one incident where he became unconscious from the
drug use and woke up to Buck performing oral sex
on him. Buck Is His charges include running a drug Dean,
persuading others to travel for prostitution, and providing fatal doses
a man in fact of meanings to Jamal Moore and
Timothy Dean. He faces his life in prison if he

(01:52:09):
is convicted. All right, folks, I gotta ask you all
this here. This story just popped up. So you know.
Dion Sanders is the head football coach at Jackson State
University and Dion is deon Well. At the SWACK Media Day,
Dion took offense to a reporter calling him by his

(01:52:30):
first name. This is this. This is the story from
the Jackson Clarion Ledger. The ProFootball Hall of Fame quarterback
and second year coach demanded that reporters shouldn't call him
by his first name before walking out of a SWACK
Media Day event at the Sheridan Birmingham on Tuesday. You
don't call Nick Saban, Nick. Don't call me Dion Sanders

(01:52:53):
told Nick Sus from the Clarion Ledger. If you call
Nick Saban Nick, you get cussed out on the spot.
So don't do that to me. Treat me like Nick. Uh.
Then Suss was quoted uh in the UH it was
It was quoted here as saying, when I interview people,
I called them by their first name, whether it's someone

(01:53:14):
I've been working with for years or someone I'm talking
to for the first time. This is true of the
coaches and players on the Old Missbeat, the coaches and
players in Mississippi State and Southern miss when I help
out covering their teams, and as recently January even Sanders
two Suss says Suce has referred to Saban and the
football coach of his Old Missbeat, Lane Kipping by the
first names, along with the Bulldogs National Championship baseball coach

(01:53:37):
Chris uh Lamon's what do y'all make of Dion saying,
don't you call me Dion? You called me Mr Sanders
if you just met me. Put some respect on that
man names. I mean, don't make a Matthew twice he
walk out right. Well, and that's the that's the deal.

(01:53:58):
I mean, Teresa, here's the deal. If the if the
guy says, don't call him our first name, call me
Mr Sanders, and then you do a second time, He's
gonna walk the hell out. I mean, he gave you
a directive. And I think if that journalists really wanted
to ensure that he was getting cooperations uh in an
answer for his story, then he should have abided not

(01:54:20):
go through the history of whoa I called Nick and
we don't need all that. So um, just calling by
his first name, I mean, is Dion bringing too much drama?
Dion knows how to work the media, and Dion knows
there's no such thing as bad publicity. So I totally

(01:54:41):
get that there is a history with with white folks,
you know, in many instances calling us by our first
names or or other names that they've used. Um. But
at the same time, I also understand the marketing game
and uh, I just hope he has a winning season.
That is uh too funny, And so that was I

(01:55:06):
did see this one tweet where somebody said, if you're
talking about the swack in July, Dion is winning. Yea
here that's how they put it. So He's like, if
we're talking about the SWACK in July because also at
also at at the same news conference, Deon Santas went off,

(01:55:29):
let me see if I can find it. Uh. Deon
Sante's went off in the news conference complaining about the
media not giving hbc U S enough media attention. This
is what the Undefeated posted listening expect us to win.
We expect to win. We're the only team in the
country that people expect in the first year twin at all.

(01:55:54):
I agree with that expectations high. You brought in that
level of expectation and what did what have you learned?
This to all the question what have you learned about
black college football? Uh? I know you went to Florid
st right now in the trenches. In the trenches, we
need to do better in all fronts, every front, not
only on the field, but off the field. That's where

(01:56:17):
it starts. Um. In the last five years, we've only
had twelve guys get drafted the NFL. So if I
go around each table, when we have twelve in the SWACK, Now,
if I go around each table, I'm pretty sure even
if we just took the two at each table, what's
that do your math, So that means twenty four kids
you to get drafted, So what's the problem. So that

(01:56:38):
means exposure has to play a part. So we have
at least two from each team to get drafted. That
means we're not getting the right exposure. So that's on y'all,
and that's on us, not y'all in person, but that's
on ESPN. We have TV one and we have BT.
What they are, but we're black. We keep it at

(01:57:00):
a hunted wait they at I need, I got time,
I got time. We talk. Yeah, yeah, you're ESPN and
thank going. We're not ESPN fourteen like we were now
we're on ESPN and ESPN two which we're gonna be
for the orange blossom of Classics and we're thankful, but
we're not gonna sell them with that. We have a

(01:57:20):
wonderful commission of the Smack and he's doing some wonderful
things to give us those platforms. So if everyone has
at least two guys that can go, bro, what's the
problem exposure? We gotta do a better job at that.
Hm hmm. We called our TV one and be a team.
Well TV one is black on BT is not on

(01:57:40):
by com on by vat com CBS, Um, gotta get
your up, Ben and what what Dion speaking truth? Absolutely
speaking the truth I mean? And and then I also
not just the truth about the exposure and the coverage
and how difficult it is to even see and they
SPCU game, UM shout out to to I think, what

(01:58:02):
what do you mentioned? ESPN two is like the only
channel I can catch and the Throne cooking University game
on sometimes um and I agree with them. Also the
fact that he's bringing light to this and pressing the
media issue. Like Mustapha said, this is really a win
for hbc US because we need to be sending our
top talent to schools who know how to treat our
top talent like they are. Uh, Theresa, what what he

(01:58:24):
when he says we gotta do better? What he's also
saying the expectations of the h b C USED has
to be great as well, and that is how they
market their players, uh, and things along those lines. I agree.
And you know, I think with the win with the
n C Double A and taking care of their players
financially and ensuring that they not only get the sponsorship

(01:58:48):
that they deserve, but they can at least begin to
not struggle as they are beginning to practice. So I
think that is a continued conversation he is bringing up,
and I think he's at the right place to do it.
What's offer, Brother Sanders understands how to increase value. He
did it in his own career, you know, with many

(01:59:08):
of the things that he did. Was a phenomenal player.
But he also understood that the marketing of that phenomenal
nous was important as well. And now he's translating that
to his leadership in the swack and trying to make
sure that that people are actually honoring the players that
are there along with the schools. All right, then, well, folks,

(01:59:29):
good luck with it. I just sent d In the text,
Hey Dion, we'll hook you up TV one at got
no news, BT got no news, but you can come
of roll In Martin unfiltered. So I literally just sent
him a text. Uh and uh that still should be
his number. But it's all good because I got his
fiance's number two, So I just sent her text. See,

(01:59:49):
y'all need to understand something. All y'all young ass journalists
who don't know a damn thing, never ever ignore the
spouse or the future spouse because see then Zeil and
care in the cell phone so I called paultte see

(02:00:10):
some of y'all gonna learn, some of y'all gonna learn
how real journalists roll. I'm just saying, all right, y'all. Uh,
that's it for us today on Roller Martin Unfiltered. Uh.
Please support uh the young sister with the with the
dog company Beautiful Curly me following him on social media
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Let's see here, I'm scrolling, scrolling, scrolling all the ones
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And so that's it. Alright, folks, that's it. I will

(02:01:58):
see you guys tomorrow. And also I'm rocking to the
negro Leeds. Y'all go to the y'all go to Kansas City.
Please visit the Negro Leaves Museum in Kansas City. That's
where I got this Kansas City monarchs. Uh. I don't
know how they wore these jerseys back in the day.
This suthing is hot as hell. I don't know how
they played in the summer, but it's a really I mean,
this is like a winner jersey. Uh So this is

(02:02:22):
the satchel page uh jersey you see right here, uh
number twenty four Kansas City Monarchs that I got at
the Negro League Museum in Kansas City and rocket the
hat as well. All Right, folks, that's it. I appreciate it.
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