Reclassifying Marijuana, White v. Black Voter Turnout Gap, Derontae Martin Death Investigation

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Speaker 1 (00:35):
Today's Tuesday, April thirty, of twenty twenty four. Coming up
on Roland Martin on The Filter, streaming live on the
Black Star Network, the US Drug Enforcement Administration is reclassified marijuana.
Will tell you what this actually means for citizens, especially
those who were convicted of marijuana chargers. Also on today's show,

(00:55):
a follow up to the case of the black man
in Missouri who was shot in the head in the
attic of a white supremacist will tell you the results
of an FBI investigation. Also, the Brenda Center for Justice
studied nearly a billion voter files and found that the
gap between white and black voter turnout is increasing. Yeah,

(01:16):
this is an alarming story. I keep telling y'all about
our power. Well, this is an issue that we must address. Also,
Byron Allen's De Grio lays off all of its video
and podcast staff and nearly all of their shows have
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Since nineteen seventy one, marijuana has been classified as a
Schedule one drug, defined as a drug with no excepted
medical use and a high potential for abuse. Well, that
is now changing. The DEA is expected to reclassify marijuana
from the most strict Schedule one to the less stringent
Schedule three. This is the first time the US government

(03:01):
is acknowledging its potential medical benefits. Doctor Sean de Macy
is the founder of the National Holistic Healing Center, joined
us from Washington, DC. Sean, I'm glad to have you
here so explain to people why this is a huge decision.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
Well for our community.

Speaker 7 (03:20):
The first thing, the impact that it has is that
it opens up the access for patients.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
Patients feel more.

Speaker 7 (03:27):
Comfortable using cannabis as medicine because now the government is
saying it's actually medicinal benefits in using it. So we're
so excited that the government is just finally accepting and
sharing the news that we've known for decades and that
we've been fighting for our rights for legalization, to just

(03:49):
be able to have access to healthcare. So that's the
underlying issue that we're dealing with today, But there's also
implications on what it looks like for small business owners
that are of brown and black community social equity, and
what it looks like for us in the taxation realm.

(04:11):
So for every dollar that we generate in cannabis, seventy
cents of that goes to the federal government on taxes.
So now with the rescheduling of cannabis, this actually allows
us to normalize our taxation and get taxed like every
other business in the United States, so we can actually

(04:34):
now start to generate a profit.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
But again, what they're focusing on the health benefits, and
so what we have seen is a lot of focus
on this over the last several years. We have seen
the NFL the NBA also change their position when it
comes to the health benefits as well. And so you know,

(05:02):
this is a dramatic, dramatic move by the DA and
one that people have been demanding for a very long time.

Speaker 7 (05:10):
Definitely, and not only that, Roland, what's interesting about this
rescheduling is that it opens up for more access to research.
So now you'll start to see more pharmaceutical companies come
in do more research. But it also allows pharmaceutical companies
to come in, cultivate, manufacture, sell, and distribute cannabis along

(05:35):
with us small businesses. So this is kind of like
a tricky place, but for us in terms of our community,
what is so empowerful about rescheduling is that black and
brown communities that were targeted, that have been incarcerated for
cannabis will see less and less of those incarcerations. And

(05:59):
so we have a long way to go, but we'll
take our victory today because we know that incremental change is.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
Really going to help us on the long run.

Speaker 7 (06:10):
But we just have to get situated and making this
progress today will definitely impact our community in the future.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
I want to bring in my panel right now, doctor
Mastapha Santiago, a lead former Senior Advisor for Environmental Justice
with the EPA, Joseph out of DC, Randy Bryant, DEI Disruptor,
also out of DC, Joe Richardson, Civiright's attorney.

Speaker 6 (06:32):
Out of LA Glad to have all three of you here.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Joe I'll start with you your question for Doc regarding this decision.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
All right, get afternoon.

Speaker 8 (06:45):
I'm glad to hear this news. This is good news.
So I wonder thinking about this. You've been on this,
on this crusade for quite some time. And when I
say that, I mean that there's been a lot of
work and effort, brus blood sweat tiers toward getting the
government to move along to where we actually are the
state of marijuana, the medicinal values, etc. What would you say,

(07:09):
having accomplished this would be your next frontier? What are
some other barriers related to this issue that you would
like to see come down?

Speaker 7 (07:19):
Well, we know that the cannabis laws have been intertwined
in systemic racism since the inception and in nineteen seventy one,
as Roland pointed out, is that with the Substance Control Act,
it classified it as Carolyn. So what we need to
do is systematically unwind all of the racial barriers that

(07:42):
we've seen that have been implemented through policy, through laws,
and then really find a good way for our community
to be able to expunge their previous convictions and institute
more rights. And I think like that is the most

(08:03):
fundamental thing we can do for our community because we
know that if we have the right to vote, we
can say who's in power.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (08:17):
Mustapha.

Speaker 9 (08:18):
Yeah, well, thank you for being with us.

Speaker 10 (08:20):
You know, we know that, as you mentioned earlier, there
are a number of different health benefits, the benefits from cancer, lowering,
blood pressure, anxiety, a number of different things that are
associated with cannabis. Do you feel that this will also
open the door because you mentioned earlier about research, and
often people are a bit hesitant when there's a controlled

(08:40):
substance that's a part of their research. So I'm wondering
your thoughts on that.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 7 (08:46):
Well, when I was a couple of decades ago, when
I was a student at Howard University studying prostate cancer
and then, you know, one of the major barriers I
had was the fact that I couldn't study it.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
And so for me, especially.

Speaker 7 (09:04):
With cancers like cross state that disproportionately impacts our community,
it's important for me to find a way that men
black men have a sustainable life and be able to
have access to true healthcare.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
So now we can do this with the rescheduling.

Speaker 7 (09:23):
Literally, this rescheduling puts cannabis.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
In the same category as tailanal.

Speaker 7 (09:29):
And so with that we can actually start to look
at those fundamental health care issues.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
That can start to change lives.

Speaker 7 (09:38):
And when I say change lives, but throughout all diseases,
all disease states, we can really start to introspect on
what impacts that cannabis can have on sustaining the human life.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Randy, Yeah, I have.

Speaker 4 (09:59):
I'm not su prize that this happened.

Speaker 5 (10:01):
I know it was a long time coming, and I'm
certainly very happy that they are going to change the scheduling.
But I can't help but to just wonder about equity.
You know, many of our brothers and sisters have been
locked up and remain locked up because of just having.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
Small amounts of marijuana.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
And I also worry about, you know, the wealth gap
they talk about all the time. How you know, the
federal government, of course, is going to make quite a
bit of money, which is why I believe there's been
a big push to make it, you know, to change
the laws.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
But how will we ensure.

Speaker 5 (10:33):
That we black people will have an opportunity to also
benefit from this new change.

Speaker 7 (10:40):
Well, I'm gonna touch on your last point first, which
is said throughout the nation is the simple fact that
social equity licenses have been issued and allowable for people
of color, and that will give us the access to
be able to participate in this billion dollar industry. But
I want to also erase the misconception of the billion

(11:04):
dollar industry.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
Like I said before, where.

Speaker 7 (11:07):
We are today, every dollar that we generating the cannabis industry, seventy.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
Cents actually goes to taxation, so.

Speaker 7 (11:18):
We're not really making money. And if you look at
what that looks like in terms of cannabis businesses today,
we owe the federal government over three billion dollars collectively.
And so now with the rescheduling, is only the beginning
of ability to generate profit. So those social equity licenses

(11:43):
that have been issued now can go to those that
were disproportionately impacted by.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
The War on drugs.

Speaker 7 (11:51):
Let me give you a great case in point Washington,
DC have encouraged legacy, what we call legacy or illicit
mark to come up into the light to participate in
a regulated market so that they can have access to
freely participate in the industry that will generate wealth that

(12:15):
they created. And so with that we see New York,
we see all the different states coming on with this
equity path.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
Now, is it just that easy, en, There's a lot
of regulatory hurdles.

Speaker 7 (12:30):
There's a lot of issues surrounding social equity and funding
for people who want to actually start their business. But
there is the first step, which is that we're getting
a license, and then from there we have to work
on the incremental change. And that incremental change just being
able to have the potential to generate some type of

(12:53):
generational web wealth is just the beginning of trying to
restore the justice that has been done on our community. So, no,
isn't where we want to be today?

Speaker 4 (13:06):
Is it heading the right direction? Yes? It is.

Speaker 7 (13:10):
And now the flip flop on what you said previously,
let's talk about the state of.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
Expungement right now.

Speaker 7 (13:17):
I remember when I went to the White House two
years ago and we spoke to the Special Advisor to
the President and talked about how pardons should be issued.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
And less than six months later.

Speaker 7 (13:30):
The pardons were issued for simple marijuana possession.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
That was such a.

Speaker 7 (13:36):
Huge victory for us, but also the message was to
tell all the governors to issue pardons in all the
states to those that actually had marijuana possession charges. That
didn't happen because a lot of governors didn't have the
power to institute such change. But we see right now

(13:58):
in Congress there's legislation like the Hope Act that says
that expungement for low level possessions of medical cannabis or
cannabis period should be a sponge automatically that expungement will
start to right the wrongs on our community and give
us an opportunity not only to start out again, but

(14:23):
have access to an industry that can generate generational wealth.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Thank you for that, all right, man, doctor Shanda.

Speaker 6 (14:34):
We shall appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Thanks so much, and we'll see what's next. Thanks lot.

Speaker 6 (14:42):
All right, folks, got to go to a break. We
come back.

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This is something that is in line with Morehouses mission
and also with this objective of being a place that
allows for engagement of social justice issues and moral concerns.

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Now again you have students, as.

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Willis faculty both releasing letters saying that Morause should send
that invitation.

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I want to start with you your thoughts on the
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(19:56):
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stand up uh and fight against injustice.

Speaker 9 (20:12):
So, you know, having the President.

Speaker 10 (20:14):
Come and some of the actions that he have done
has done, of course, are going to create a situation
where there's some iory from many of the students who
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President of the United States coming, you know, it's great
for fun.

Speaker 6 (20:31):
Grandma's here, It's great.

Speaker 9 (20:33):
To lift everything up. So, but you should listen to
the voices of your students.

Speaker 10 (20:41):
They are the lifeblood of your institution and be able
to address whatever concerns they may have.

Speaker 6 (20:49):
Understand that particular point there.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
But here, Joe, President Barack Obama, he spoke at more
House in May two thousand thirteen.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (21:01):
If you talk to others, they'll.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Talk about his drone attacks impact on civilians taking out
Kadafi in Libya.

Speaker 12 (21:10):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (21:11):
And so do you since here, Joe, there's.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
A double standard between Obama.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
And well, you know there there's an argument there.

Speaker 8 (21:23):
Interestingly, Uh, the provosts at Morehouse, brother Kendrick Brown, actually
was here at the University of Redlands, my undergrad automiter recently, uh,
right before getting to uh getting to Morehouse, So I
can imagine what he's what he's wrestling with, and so,
you know, Interestingly, talking to my daughter and kids her age,

(21:43):
they were hard on Obama, even though Obama and the
opportunities that he present that he helped and the presentation
of just the possibilities, let alone what he actually accomplished,
uh created and paid the way for them. People that
age professors, people in an intellectual environment where you're supposed

(22:05):
to be stimulated, where you're supposed to speak up and
speak out, etc.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
Are going to have something to say about this.

Speaker 8 (22:10):
And so I think that if assuming Biden gets the
chance to speak there, I think he should directly address
what's actually happening. Maybe this is an opportunity to actually
build a bridge that right now is not built. I
think that he's suffering from this politically, whether he ought
to or not, I think he absolutely is. I think
he needs to reconnect with this young demographic that's going

(22:33):
to be vital for him to win.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
And I do think that given what we were able to.

Speaker 8 (22:38):
Accomplish over the years, the Civil Rights Acts, sixty four
or sixty five, the Voting Rights Act, the things that
happen with who, by most accounts, was a racist president.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
I don't say that. I don't think that you keep
dialogue from happening.

Speaker 8 (22:52):
And if you consider that part of the dialogue, I
think you allow him to be there because we do
want to be different than other places.

Speaker 4 (22:59):
However, we can still hold him accounts book account but
we can still.

Speaker 8 (23:02):
Respectfully allow young people uh to speak out, to speak
out forcefully, but respectfully and with measure and with balance.
It can be something that can be built upon. I
don't say stop talking, but I say, let's hear what
he has to say, and then what he does related
to this very real situation that has the potential to

(23:24):
hurt him as it's hurting the people.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
Uh that that folks are talking about and speaking on behalf.

Speaker 6 (23:31):
Of, Randy.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Last year, President Biden uh actually spoke at Howard University graduation.
Uh and UH with him speaking. Uh there, give me
one second. I want to pull this up, like I say,
he spoke. He spoke there last year. Uh, and he

(23:56):
you know, got some pushback, got some pushback from some
fun folks, and you had some students who were not
happy with him speaking. There were several who stood up
and actually protested turn their back on him as he
was speaking.

Speaker 6 (24:15):
And so that was of course quite interesting.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Well that took place, and it wasn't a you know,
major demonstration, but you probably, if I remember, because my
niece graduated, she was in the class, you probably had
about ten, maybe fifteen students who stood up, might have
been more. So it's not like he doesn't quite remember that.

Speaker 6 (24:51):
Randy.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
Yes, I thought you were going to say something else.
I'm sorry, Roland. I was gonna.

Speaker 5 (24:56):
I really actually am impressed with the students and that
they are being said, that they are participating in this
democracy and they're keeping the conversation going. Isn't that why
we send our young people to schools? And I also
respect that Biden wants to come and that the university
wants them to come, because that's what a university is
supposed to be. So my take is that he does

(25:19):
indeed come, but like Joe said, you know, and continues
the conversation. But the students can absolutely let it be
known respectfully what their issues are, and I respect.

Speaker 4 (25:29):
Them for being bold enough and involved.

Speaker 5 (25:33):
Enough to care about what's happening and to speak out
on it. So I think this can be a win
win situation. But I would allow the president to come,
and the president is always going to be controversial, right,
I mean, it would be unlikely that someone who has
so much power and touches so much of what you know,
we do day to day would not have some controversy.

(25:53):
But I am so incredibly proud of those students at
moor House that they're that involved in being good citizens
of this country.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
They have the right to come, all right, folks, hold
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and they may be moving in to remove them, and
so we're monitoring that. So we're talking about that. We

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That's right here on the Black Table on the Black
Star Network. Hm bru Smith, creator and executive ducer of
The Proud Family Louder and Prouder in Washington, Roland Martin.

(30:50):
All right, folks, the protests continue at Columbia University as
some students there actually take over a university building there
called Hamilton Hall. Uh and so you continue to see,
uh what as the students are fighting for the university
to divest.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
That was that was one of the issues right there.

Speaker 16 (31:14):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
And you also, of course have these students who have
been protesting now earlier that was a news conference uh
where student leaders were were addressing the media.

Speaker 6 (31:29):
Uh, and they were talking about, uh, the.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Issue of food and things along those lines that were needed.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Here is some of that news conference.

Speaker 17 (31:44):
Taking over.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Uh.

Speaker 18 (31:47):
Well, for first of all, we're saying that they're obligated
to provide food to students who pay for a meal plan.

Speaker 17 (31:52):
Here you mentioned that there was a questions.

Speaker 18 (31:57):
To allow it to be brought in. I mean, well,
I guess it's ultimately of what kind of community and
obligation Columbia feels it has to its students. Do you
want students to die of dehydration and starvation or get
severely ill, even if they disagree with you. If the
answer is no, then you should allow basic I mean
it's crazy to say because we're on an ivy leage campus,

(32:17):
but this is like basic humanitarian aid we're asking for,
like could people please to have a glass of water?

Speaker 4 (32:22):
But they did put themselves in that.

Speaker 11 (32:25):
Very deliberately in that situation and in that position, so
it seems like you're sort of saying, we want to
be revolutionary, so we want to take up this building.

Speaker 17 (32:34):
Now, would you please bring us food and water?

Speaker 18 (32:37):
Nobody's asking them to bring anything everything. We're we're asking
them to not violently stop us from bringing in basic
humanitarian aid, the delivery of dude. We are looking for
a commitment from them that they will not stop it.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
But I haven't stopped it.

Speaker 18 (32:52):
Well, I don't, I'm not. I don't know to what
extent it has been attempted. But we're looking for a commitment.

Speaker 17 (32:59):
Why should.

Speaker 11 (33:02):
Now?

Speaker 1 (33:03):
You have seen the again, you've seen the protests continue there,
the battle of continuities. In fact, this is interesting.

Speaker 6 (33:11):
There other folks who actually started.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Bringing food, passing it through the days to pass off.

Speaker 6 (33:17):
To the protesters there.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
This has been contentious, not just there Havelndia.

Speaker 6 (33:25):
What are other universities as well?

Speaker 1 (33:27):
You had USC, you had USC, you had USC canceling
their graduation. You've seen protests a numerous campus as well.

Speaker 6 (33:38):
This year.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Is another video here of the students taking over in
Hamilton Hall. This is one of the videos. There's social
media showing them there dropping signs there and they're going
back and forth with the administration on that. Now NYPD
Blew is there as well, so you have them there

(34:01):
first of all, and again decisions of being made as
to whether they are going to actually go back onto
the campus. That has been part of the issue all
across the country with this unrest, if you will, of
law enforcement in terms of their actions. Senator Chuck schuer
Center from New York address the issue on the floor

(34:22):
of the United States Senate about what's happening.

Speaker 6 (34:24):
To major mister President.

Speaker 19 (34:27):
I'd like to begin today by saying a few things
about the protests at Columbia University. Smashing windows with hammers
and taking over university buildings is not free speech. It
is lawlessness, and those who did it should promptly face
the consequences that are not merely a slap on the wrist.

(34:48):
Free speech, discussion and even strong disagreement are fundamental American values,
and campuses should be places where those values are cherished.
Cannot be places of learning and argument and discussion. When
protests veer into criminality and those who commit such acts

(35:10):
are doing nothing to convince others that their cause is just,
it is also unacceptable.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
When Jewish now that was our center truck Schumer there,
I was about panel here. You know, this is being
quite contentious. And one of the things, Joe, that has
been really interesting is watching all of these people suggest
that because these students and others in other campuses. And
I was having this conversation with a guy on a

(35:37):
plane today flying back from Los Angeles, where there's this
notion that because they are protesting, they're expressing anti Semitism.
And this has been sort of bandoned about back and forth,
and you have a lot of folks to say, wait
a minute, how can you call someone an anti semit
because they are protesting and calling for a cease fire

(35:58):
or calling for the universe to divest h And I've
seen that phrase thrown around a whole lot, and I'm
just trying to understand, how how can you be against
the killing of Palestinians. Well, then you're calling people anti Semites.
Your thoughts, your assessment on what you're seeing.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
The hotter the situation is, the less likely you are
to have it.

Speaker 17 (36:27):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (36:28):
People feel safe, for lack of a better term, with
absolutes and extremes, and so it's very easy. It doesn't
take any work, it doesn't take any effort, doesn't take
any desernment, it doesn't take any research to just say
there should there should be no anti semitism. Nobody disagrees
with that, So in fact, I agree with the notion

(36:48):
root it out where you find it.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
But here you have a situation. Even Michael Moore talked
about this the other day.

Speaker 8 (36:54):
You know, you have a situation where you've got a
lot of kids that are anti war, they're not necessarily
anti semis And interestingly.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
This is a lot of the same stuff that was
said with.

Speaker 8 (37:10):
Protesting about divestment related to South Africa Vietnam war protests.
I mean, you can go on and on about how
we've been here so many times, but somebody has to
do the work to separate the wheat from the chaff,
and we should have space to protest, not to be

(37:32):
an ismitic, not to make people less safe, not to
commit vandalism, all that truth. You can say the same
thing about what's been going on and set about Black
Lives Matter, and it's amazing that we would actually have
this discussion in the shadow of January sixth, on a
day when nobody was arrested, They didn't do anything to
anybody that day, and the Supreme Court is in the

(37:54):
process of maybe letting them off the hook.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
And so what we have to do is do the
work of nuance so that.

Speaker 8 (38:01):
We can separate the week from the chap so that
we can acknowledge people's right free speech related rights, so
that we can listen to a perspective that's being had
and said, even if one disagrees with it, as long
as it can be communicated respectfully. Because if we can't
do that, ultimately, we just don't have a country, mustapa.

Speaker 9 (38:27):
You know, it's interesting.

Speaker 10 (38:29):
I was a part of student protests at a couple
of different campuses over my academic career, and we often
want young people to stand up, you know, we want
young people to be a part of trying to make
the world a better place.

Speaker 9 (38:44):
But in my conversations with a number of young people
in different campuses, you know.

Speaker 10 (38:49):
They're following Fanning new Hammer when she said, I'm sick
and tired of being sick and tired. They're tired of war,
they're tired of seeing people die, they're tired.

Speaker 9 (38:58):
Of people not using common sense. So they want, you know,
the hostages to come home.

Speaker 10 (39:04):
We all do, but they also want that thirty plus
thousand folks who have been killed to that decease.

Speaker 9 (39:11):
Also, so we should listen to young people.

Speaker 10 (39:14):
They are a part of the compass of if our
country is moving in the right place, is our country
actually embracing humanity? Is our country also being honest about
injustices that are happening, because often too many people are
afraid to speak out against injustice. They only want to
do it when it's comfortable, because there is a price

(39:36):
to pay when you speak out about injustice. So if
we've got young people who are willing to put their
academic credentials on the line, if they are willing to
also possibly be beaten or arrested, then we have to
honor that. But we also have to be clear, at
least from the movement that I come out of, that

(39:57):
violence is.

Speaker 9 (39:58):
Not the way. Gotta also make sure that we don't
have others.

Speaker 10 (40:02):
Who are not students who sometimes will participate in our
protests or marches, who don't have our best uh, you know,
who just don't have the same type of focus that
we have. They have their own agenda, if I can
say it that way. So we got to make sure
that students are being honored they're being uplifted and that
their voices matter.

Speaker 17 (40:27):
Randy, you know, the way.

Speaker 5 (40:29):
History has worked in the United States is that every
time there has been a movement, it usually does start
with young people, even if we look at the Civil
rights movement. So this is nothing new.

Speaker 4 (40:40):
And I believe that if our.

Speaker 5 (40:41):
Government were smart, they would recognize that they are not
going to be able to beat them. They're not going
to be able to propagandize the message and try to
say that when someone says we don't believe in war
our genocide, that's the same as saying that there's there
being anti semitric So I believe that they need to
pay attention and say, Okay, we really need to pay

(41:02):
attention to these students and make some changes or at
least give them a platform to listen.

Speaker 4 (41:08):
But what I have seen some of the post.

Speaker 5 (41:10):
To be police handling students too roughly and them doing
going through extreme measures to shut them down is not
going to work in the long run.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
It never has historically.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Well, it is a continuous continuation again of lots of drama,
lots of conflict on the campus of Columbia and other
universities around the country.

Speaker 6 (41:33):
So we certainly will see what happens.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
The impact on graduations and if it's going to continue
when the school year lets out for summer. All right, folks,
hotel one second, we come back, black and white voting
patterns widening. We're not going to the pollst folks. I
keep telling y'all, we're leaving our power at home. That's
not a good thing. We'll talk with the Brenda Center

(41:57):
next on Roll Unfiltered on the Black Star Network, now
streaming on the Blackstar Network.

Speaker 6 (42:06):
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Speaker 20 (42:07):
I just had was manifested about life.

Speaker 6 (42:09):
I said, I would love to come back because it was.

Speaker 20 (42:12):
A great time and these kids need that right now.
They need that that that male role model in the schools.
I think even on because people are scared of going
to the high school, you know, the high school.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 20 (42:26):
I would love to bring it back, and I think
we could bring it back.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
You know what do you think?

Speaker 17 (42:30):
I think.

Speaker 6 (42:30):
I think we're just when young people a pope.

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let's go.

Speaker 6 (42:36):
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bullshit you see out there on TV.

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Speaker 1 (47:27):
Black voter participation was significant with the election of President
of Barack Obama in two thousand and eight and twenty twelve,
yet we're now seeing a widening gap between black and
white voters. The Brennan Center for Justice, they actually did
a report called growing Racial Disparities in Voter Turnout two
thousand and eight twenty twenty two.

Speaker 6 (47:48):
A huge, huge, a result of that.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
Is the Supreme Court weakening the voting rights at Kareem Creighton,
the senior director of Voting Rights and Representation at the
Brennan Center, joining us now from New York, York.

Speaker 6 (48:00):
Kareem glad to have you here. So let's let's walk
through this and so again.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
Election Obama two thousand and eight, lot of attention, a
lot of focus, a lot of energy, and then we
saw twenty ten Republicans win the midterm elections and things
began to change.

Speaker 14 (48:20):
Well, that's right, Roland. It's fair to say thank you
first off for having me here to talk about the report.
We're delighted to share information about it. What you said
is absolutely right. Twenty two thousand and eight was certainly
a hallmark year for African American political participation, in part
because of the election of America's first African American president.

(48:41):
So turnout was, you know, significantly high, hit some historic eyes.
What happened in twenty ten is actually what happens a
lot in elections. Because it was a midterm year, the
president is not on the ballot, most people tend not
to show up as they would in a presidential year.
That number goes down. But importantly, with this report fulled,
this is on is what happened in twenty thirteen and

(49:03):
beyond where the Supreme Court of the United States issued
a decision in this case called Shelby County versus Holder,
which essentially got rid of one of the significant protections
that made sure that voters could have access to the
ballot on a fair and equal basis, particularly in the
states that were part of the worst of American history,

(49:24):
and denying people about with respect to race.

Speaker 4 (49:26):
What we show in this.

Speaker 14 (49:27):
Report is that among the reasons that turnout goes up
and down, one of the significant drivers of this is
the issuance of that decision that the Supreme Court made,
suggesting that we no longer needed the protections of the
voting right tech. And while what we saw prior to
twenty thirteen is a closing of the gap between African
American voters and white voters and Franklin non white voters

(49:49):
and white voters generally, after two twenty thirteen we saw
that gap widen, and it actually became more pronounced, grew faster,
and became bigger in the very places where we had
Preclayer's protections, and after twenty thirteen didn't any longer. So
you're right, the trend is very disturbing. One it's most
disturbing when you look at African American participation compared to

(50:12):
white participation.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
And so when you talk about that two thousand Shelby
Beholder decision.

Speaker 6 (50:22):
What really happened there?

Speaker 1 (50:25):
And so walk people through what Republicans started to do
all across the country.

Speaker 14 (50:31):
Right, Well, what we heard the Court decided to credit
this argument. We thought it was actually a bad one
at the time, as did a minority on the Court,
that we no longer needed these protections of the voting
right tech because as they saw it, those numbers were
starting to close between African American and white voters. And
the question the Court asked was, well, if that's closing,

(50:52):
why do we need these same protections that we needed
in nineteen sixty five, They wrongly, in my view, issued
a decision got rid of the provision that protected the
voters in particularly the South, from having new laws on
the books that had the likelihood of discriminating and without it,

(51:13):
without that federal protection, what states did literally after the
Supreme Court issued that decision was to enact a new
round of voting laws that we all knew that would
have been illegal under the preclearance provision. But essentially that
when after many of the channels that African Americans and
other voters used to participate in elections. And what that

(51:34):
cumulative effect actually meant was that hundreds of thousands of voters,
particularly voters of color, in these jurisdictions had more barriers
than fewer barriers to cast balance. And what that, among
other things, has contributed to is a growing gap. Fewer
people show up to the polls, and those fewer people,
more often in these places, relate to people of color,

(51:58):
in particular black people. App represents again hundreds of thousands
of voters voters that would be voters of color in
our political system between twenty thirteen and twenty twenty two,
which we measured as part of our study.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
So and so in terms of and one of the
things that I have been doing is really just trying
to get our folks to understand where we have to
be while we have to be focused. And unfortunately, what
we're seeing is, you know, we're seeing places like Louisiana
where we're just we're not turning out and numbers are

(52:37):
real low, and so therefore we're leaving our voting power
at home.

Speaker 14 (52:41):
That's that's fair. You know, you know, my people are
originally from Louisiana, and we have, you know, a tradition
of actually voting in that state on Saturdays, and you know,
you probably recall that this time around we had the
statewide election for most of the state offices on the
same day of homecoming for a grand land of Southern

(53:02):
usually a place where you see a lot of African
Americans show up. So we have a lot of these effects,
both of laws that the legislators have put on the
books in states that have made it more difficult to
cast ballots. Frankly, redistricting another place where precliners used to
do work. Legislators are now are essentially daring people to

(53:22):
take them to court by drawing fewer districts in which
African Americans have a fair opportunity to elect candidates. And
what that is meant is that people to get a
fair map or get election systems. This goes to everything.
Remember from where your polling place is, what kinds of
offices are available to be voted on. People have to
go to court and sue, and that takes more time,

(53:44):
it takes a lot of money, and it usually means
that while the fighting is happening, elections keep moving. And
all of these elections and the policies that follow from
it are done without really the sort of protection of preclearance,
and what that is meant is frankly, a system that
is more difficult for African Americans to vote rather than less.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
Questions out from the panel random you first.

Speaker 5 (54:11):
So we are aware that it seems as if there
has been just a huge push to make voting as
difficult as it can be for people of color, particularly
black people.

Speaker 17 (54:23):
I mean, what can we do?

Speaker 5 (54:26):
I mean, it's so frustrating because you know it should
be the way we should have the right to vote.

Speaker 17 (54:32):
I mean, how do we fight back?

Speaker 4 (54:36):
How do we fight back?

Speaker 14 (54:38):
Well, one of the things we continue to do the
Branded Center among the constellation of civil rights organizations is
we take these folks to court, and unfortunately we are
doing it in a judicial system that is less friendly.
The last administration put a lot of people on the
bench who were frankly skeptical, if not in the hostile

(54:59):
to the idea of fair enforcement of the voting rights ack.
So we're having to fight new battles. But we're in there,
and a lot of groups are putting their time and
talent on the line to make sure that that happens.
That's one part of it. The other part of it, though,
is what we always say, and I know it's you know,
for many people seemingly trite, but there really is no

(55:21):
substitute for people showing up to vote. It means, though,
we have to be more organized than we were before.
It means that we have to be prepared for obstacles.
That would include things like being less able to organize
people ahead of time to do things like cast absency balance.
But what we can do, and I think I would

(55:42):
like to make sure that we focus on this is
make sure that we in every public space that we
know of, whether it's campuses, at HBCUs, churches, you know,
social clubs, we find everybody that we can and remind
them of what the stakes are in this election and
frankly reelection. If you aren't, as you know, aware of

(56:04):
what the results can be when people who don't represent
you and who aren't interested in talking to you are
in charge. You know, we're starting to see how that
looks in a lot of different elections and it's not
very good, particularly for the policies that follow from it.
And so what I would just say, more than anything, is,
you know, make sure that we are talking to our

(56:25):
younger voters in particular because many of them, unfortunately, you know,
have seen a world that hasn't been as effective on
you know, policy issues that you know, young people and
all of us care about. But I think it's really
talking to people getting prepared and organizing, and a lot
of groups out there are you know, ready and willing
to help people do that.

Speaker 8 (56:45):
Thank you, Joe, And the first of all, I appreciate,
greatly appreciate the work that you're doing and the case
where we all are pleasantly surprised with the Supreme Court
rule in favor of voting rights in the Alabama. Perhaps

(57:08):
you know, and I wonder if you have any thoughts.
It's difficult a trog as a slog as we have
with the courts. Is that case potentially instructive about some
narrow route? And are you finding that any particular grounds
or any particular things are a little bit more likely,

(57:28):
even if not likely in and of itself, to be
successful relatively speaking? And is that case instructive at all?

Speaker 14 (57:37):
Well, thanks for the question. I actually grew up in
Montgomery and worked pretty closely at different stages of this
redistrict defate it definitely is instructive and definitely a breath
of fresh air to see the court at least acknowledge
in a place where some of the heaviest polarization exists,
racially polarized voting, which is usually one of the key
factors to show the need for some sort of judicial remedy.

(58:02):
This is under section two of the Voting Ranks TACK,
which continues to be in place, which allows us, even
with the same fights we have to get in in
two that some court's Republican appointed courts note actually will
get to the right answer. The important piece of this, though,
is even while the Supreme Court made its decision, the

(58:22):
state didn't just sort of pack up and say, all right,
you got us. It said, well, you know, we still
have questions about it, and we're going to fight on
the merits of the case in twenty twenty four. So
you know, it is instructive at least to say the
Court has not closed the books on the Voting Ranks TACK.
But I think the continued fight that we see in

(58:43):
a lot of states Georgia, Texas, Louisiana, as we talked about,
suggests that there is continuing a need to address this
real effort to try to upend all the work that
was done from nineteen sixty five onward to protect voting
rights through federal legislation. And more than anything, I would

(59:04):
also add it highlights the need for us to adopt
new legislation that does some of the work that we
see the Supreme Court undercut. We need a new Voting
Rights Act in place that gets after a more positive
vision of voting that reflects all the people who live
in these places that have grown tremendously in the last decade.

(59:26):
And really without a Congress and a president to put
that in place, which by the way, requires people to
show up and vote, we really can't expect that to happen.
So if you're asking the question about why it would
be necessary, what do you get if you show up
and vote, The answer is you get more protections to
keep it possible as people in your state and local governments,

(59:47):
the folks who fill potholes, the folks who build libraries,
and the life who fund your schools, that those people
are actually listening to your community.

Speaker 17 (59:57):
Thank you.

Speaker 10 (59:59):
Mustapha well, brother, thank you for everything that you do
and for the Bread and Center.

Speaker 9 (01:00:04):
I'm curious and I know that you can't be nostrodamus.

Speaker 10 (01:00:08):
But what does the future look like if we cannot
rectify the situation and begin to move it in a
positive direction for black folks.

Speaker 14 (01:00:17):
Yeah, it's a good question, and I'll just pick up
where I left off about a lot of these states
we've been talking about are some of the fastest growing
states in the country, and they are powered by the
growth of young people of color, including black people. And
the hard question to be thinking about is if we
can't get a system through a robust enforcement of the

(01:00:39):
Voting Rights Act, where people who can have an interest
in showing up been participating in our election system actually
find a system that welcomes them and not pushes them
away or penalizes them for it. We're going to get
to the point where our democratic system is really only
responding to a minority of people in our country, and
we can call that a lot of things. I think

(01:01:01):
it becomes less likely that most people are going to
accept it as a valid and democratic process, and I
think it questions whether the experiment that we call America
is going to be able to continue. So you know,
everybody's used the term. I use it a lot myself.
Existential We are in an existential crisis. Either we're going
to get a system that lives up to the expectation

(01:01:22):
that we all have that the majority of the people
in this country should drive elections and answers and policies
that reflect their interests. But if we're not going to
do that, I think a majority of the people will
get sick of it or either become apathetic or worse.
And so, you know, again, if you're thinking about trying
to explain or figuring out ways to explain to people,

(01:01:43):
young people in particular, why it's important, I think the
answer is because your future really depends upon it. And
then that's not just hyperfoctly. It means if we're going
to be in a system that serves everybody, it's the
only way that we get the policies that we deserve.

Speaker 6 (01:01:59):
Thank you well.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
And that's one of the reasons why, you know, we
make a concerned effort to constantly explain this to people,
and it's hard for people people like, oh man, you know,
you keep talking about this voting thing, and I'm like, hey,
it's real, and you can't act like it has no impact.

Speaker 14 (01:02:18):
Yeah, I see you're out there talking. I mean, if
you're talking about your student loans, if you're talking about
the price of what you have to pay to go
to the grocery store, and you know, make dinner, if
you're talking about the environment or foreign policy. All these
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attempt for nine gag order violations. He issued the gag
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potential witnesses, court staff, prosecutors, and the family members of
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what the arrogant one himself he did.

Speaker 10 (01:09:41):
Well, it's good that he's finally beginning to actually follow
the letter of the law, because we know that that's
not something that he normally does. He feels that he
can thumb his nose at the law. So, you know,
as he continues to get fined, and I believe in
New York that there is a limit to what those
finds look like, but there's not a limit to him
being able to go jail. That may actually get his

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attention and have him, you know, to sort of just
make sure that he has the right type of decorum
that someone should have in this type of situation. Although
for most folks, nine thousand dollars doesn't seem like a
lot of money, especially for somebody like him, who you know,
is wealthy. Folks can debate how much wealth he actually has,
but you know, one hundred and thirty thousand dollars is

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what he paid allegedly to Stormy Daniels. So a lot
of people are putting that into context and are looking
for greater amounts tied to the violation.

Speaker 9 (01:10:32):
But folks should actually follow the law.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
Sheer arrogance, that's what we're dealing with. Right here, Joe.
And that's exactly who Donald Trump is. And he doesn't
care about rules, doesn't care about the law, and the
only way to get an act right is to enforce
the law. If this was any one of us, a
no way in hell we can be still, you know,
running out miles, putting all our stuff on social media.

Speaker 6 (01:10:59):
We'll be sitting out behind in jail.

Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:11:02):
I mean, he does kind of what he wants to,
and so frankly, that's what I'm looking for in nine
thousand dollars is not particularly impressive to me. That's a
little something. But you know, why didn't you let him
sit for a couple of days? You know, why didn't
you do that? If you really believe that was going
to happen, sure he'd make it into a crusade. But
he doesn't want to be in jail. He doesn't want
to be you know, he doesn't want to be a

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hero like that. You know, he doesn't want to be.

Speaker 4 (01:11:24):
A martyr like that.

Speaker 8 (01:11:26):
So hopefully we'll see if you know, it ends up
being necessary that the judge takes it to the hill
that way, and you know, the judge wants to be balanced,
they want to be measured so that when you get
to that point, it's not seen as an overreaction. It's
not seen you know, you know, you have to temper
justice with mercy, as it were. But at some point

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if he continues to do that with all of this
thing going on, and these things that are said put
people in jeopardy, you know, mess with people's safety. They're disruptive,
they're disrespectful to the rule of law, to the to
the court process in general.

Speaker 4 (01:12:01):
And so let's see if it ends up going any further. Randy.

Speaker 5 (01:12:09):
What's unfortunate is that he probably made more money, way
more than the nine thousand dollars, just by putting up
what he puts up, because people seem to fall more
in love with him the more he.

Speaker 4 (01:12:22):
Goes against the system.

Speaker 5 (01:12:24):
So yeah, I would love to see that he was
punished in a way that would really hurt him and
just spend a little bit of time in jail, because
I don't think.

Speaker 14 (01:12:31):
He wants that either.

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
All right, folks, let's go to our next story, where
the Wisconscerant Supreme Court says there was nothing wrong about
the firing a forem Milwaukee police officer for posting racist
memes after resting an NBA player. The court's fifty four
page opinion stated the former officer Eric Andrade received due
process understated law in the US Constitution when he was

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fired in twenty eighteen. Androtti was one of the Milwaukee
police officers involved in the arrest and tasing a former
Milwaukee Bucks player Stirling Brown in January twenty eighteen in
the Walgreens parking lot. Brown sued Milwaukee police and accused
him of racially profiling him, using accessive force, and making
it an unlawful arrest. He settled with the city for

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seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars. You know, it's very interesting, Joe,
how these cops.

Speaker 6 (01:13:24):
Think that they could just get away with anything.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
And I'm glad to see the Wisconference Supreme Court saying
now you should have to ask part Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:13:32):
And it's been upheld at every level. This has not
been a back and forth thing, and it was upheld
five two here. It's interesting, and frankly, the police department
was strategic. They said, listen, people are going to take
these Facebook posts and they're going to use these to
undermine your testimony when we have to defend against you

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or as it pertains to an investigation that you were
involved with. How can we say that you were balanced
if your post racist names? And so, you know, some
of us and we work on our certain jobs, lawyers
or officers of the court. You know, police officers are
supposed to be held to a high standard. They have
literally have people's lives in their hands potentially, and so

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therefore it very well might be. Yes, it might be
that something you post on Facebook has the potential to
undermine your job prospects.

Speaker 4 (01:14:26):
That's basically what happened here.

Speaker 8 (01:14:28):
I think they were right, and it's good that they
were confirmed in that regard, and hopefully this is a
message to folks.

Speaker 4 (01:14:34):
That you can't just do and say anything.

Speaker 8 (01:14:36):
There's no such thing as being quote off duty as
it pertains to your conduct and how you carry yourself
and how it has the potential to bear on your credibility,
particularly in that profession.

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
Yeah, it is. It is quite interesting when you look
at these cops Randy, who think they can just do
whatever they want, say what they want, and you know what,
we're gonna be protected and we'll get our jobs back.

Speaker 6 (01:15:02):
And then they force them to get with.

Speaker 5 (01:15:04):
Back pay, right, And it's understandable that they are arrogant
like that because oftentimes they have been able to get
away with things that nobody else can.

Speaker 4 (01:15:13):
So I'm happy when that law actually works in the
way that it should work.

Speaker 5 (01:15:20):
You know, it's always interesting to me that people really
don't understand, you know, this freedom of speech, and they
think that it believed that it allows them to say
whatever they want, whenever they want, to whomever they want,
and which.

Speaker 4 (01:15:33):
Is absolutely incorrect.

Speaker 5 (01:15:34):
So many people need to spend some time understanding the law,
particularly those who try to enforce it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
And it was a five too opinion. And one of
the things mustafa when you look at you know, he
shared on Facebook a number of racist memes that was
out there, and so they made it clear that now
do you don't have any first of them and rights
you're a cop. You got to sit here and a

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bye by the law, and you can't sit here. And
and then of course what he had posted and again
they tried to claim it was again they tried to claim, oh,
you know, I have these rights.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
And so in his what's crazy I'm gonna show you
this year?

Speaker 6 (01:16:22):
Uh, litten pull it up.

Speaker 12 (01:16:24):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
Oh, I'm not sure why I cannot pull it up
what's going on. I gotta fix what's going on. But
it says hours after the arrest, this is why, Andred
Andreddi wrote nice meeting Strumming Brown of the Milwaukee Bucks
at worked this morning, lo l hashtag fear the deer
that that literally was a tweet. Three months later, he
shared a meme of NBA star Kevin Durant mocking his hair.

Speaker 16 (01:16:46):
Uh and uh.

Speaker 6 (01:16:47):
He also.

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
Uh and then uh when Jared he says, uh, this
is Milwaukee paper. Androdi wrote a post about j R.
Smith of the Cleveland Cavaliers after the team lost Game
one of the NBA Finals, quote, I hope Jared Smith
double parks and Walgreen's handicapped parking spot when he's in Milwaukee,
alluding to Sterling brown Man.

Speaker 10 (01:17:10):
You know, maybe there needs to be an amendment to
the Constitution that says, don't say or do stupid stuff,
because that's what these folks continue to do or don't
do racist stuff.

Speaker 14 (01:17:20):
You know.

Speaker 9 (01:17:21):
It's interesting.

Speaker 10 (01:17:22):
May Angelo once said to us, you know very clearly
that when someone shows you who they are, believe them.
These individuals cannot serve and protect because they have these
biases that are so deeply you know inside of them
that there's no way that you could ever actually do
serving and protecting in.

Speaker 9 (01:17:43):
A way that all people are able to receive.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
That.

Speaker 10 (01:17:46):
So the only thing that now most folks have is
the legal route, and of course in hitting folks in
the pocket, as we often talk about. I think Randy
has also shared on previous shows that we also have
to make sure that these officers, and again it's not
all officers, but when we have these types of individuals,
that they have to have some personal accountability financially if

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we want to see things that actually change, because many
times the cities are the ones who are picking up
the cost and these folks never end up feeling that
that financial pain that often will get people.

Speaker 1 (01:18:19):
To do right.

Speaker 10 (01:18:21):
So we'll see if we evolve into that positioning where,
you know, when we have these racist police officers who
make them actually have to carry some of the burden financially.

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black kid shot in the head and the adding of
white supremacist. Now the FBI has issued their ruling mon
to tell you all about it and talk to his

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Folks.

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We got an update on this very strange case out
of Illinois. On April twenty fifth, twenty twenty one, Deronte
Martin attended a prom party at the home of James Wade,
who was a noticed noted white supremacist in this Illinois town.
The problem is Deronte was later found dead in the

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in ways attic. Now, the local coroner quickly ruled Drante's.

Speaker 6 (01:24:40):
Death of suicide.

Speaker 1 (01:24:42):
It took months to get a second autopsy and an
m panel jury ruled Derante's death resulted from violence, not suicide. Well, well,
the FBI they've investigated the case and they found that
the nineteen year old black teen died from a self
inflicted gunshot. Erica Lots is Derante's mother. She joins us,

(01:25:07):
right now, this has to be troubling for you, Erica,
for you know this, for the FBI come this conclusion.
Y'all have been hoping that you wanted them to get
involved in here, and still you know, no justice. And
so the FBI rules this, but in the panel jury
said it was violence.

Speaker 17 (01:25:29):
Okay, first off, this happened.

Speaker 11 (01:25:32):
First off, this's happened in Fredericktown, Missouri, Illinois, which is
maybe two hours south of Saint Louis, And the FBI
actually never did an investigation. In December twentieth of twenty

(01:25:57):
twenty three, myself and my mom, along with the legal advisor,
we went and sat down with the FBI and we
were asking for them to help investigate it and as
a hate crime, and they said that it was not
a hate crime, so they could not investigate Derante's case

(01:26:17):
and therefore they would not be overruling the verdict of
Madison County Sheriff's Department in Missouri Highway Patrol Troop E
of a self inflicted gunshot wound to the head, regardless
to the jury inquest or the second autopsy.

Speaker 1 (01:26:39):
So how did they then come to this conclusion?

Speaker 11 (01:26:48):
Well, as of April the twenty fourth, it was told
to me by Associate Press, which is the news paper.
The newspaper contacted the FBI, and the FBI notified them
that they let us know on December the twentieth that

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they closed Durante's case due to the investigation, in which
that's not what they told us. They told us that
Durante's case did not stand grounds for a hate crime.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
Okay, So I guess what I'm still confused is how
they arrive at this conclusion and what now.

Speaker 2 (01:27:35):
You have.

Speaker 1 (01:27:38):
Go ahead?

Speaker 11 (01:27:39):
But they basically have cleared James Wade, but they're not
investigating William Cody get In or Zachary Graham.

Speaker 17 (01:27:51):
And the William Cody.

Speaker 11 (01:27:53):
Get In is the one who admitted ven to the
police that he gave Durante a gun under the influence
because he was in.

Speaker 17 (01:28:01):
Fear of his life.

Speaker 11 (01:28:02):
And dak grey Graham is the one who said that
he shot himself laying down, when the detectives who did
the investigation said that there was no way that he
could have been laying down when he shot himself, that
he had to have been sitting up. Even after the
one of the witnesses said that he was laying down

(01:28:24):
and shot hisself. So nobody in the house has been
investigated but James Wade, which is a nine one one caller,
So what's next for you.

Speaker 17 (01:28:40):
To keep it, to keep pushing the issue.

Speaker 11 (01:28:43):
For somebody to investigate, because my son was murdered. Even
in the second auto report or the second it was
not a direct contact wound, there's no proof of evid
then it's with the wound that this was a self
inflicted besides of different statements from different people that conflict

(01:29:07):
each other.

Speaker 1 (01:29:14):
Questions from talent Joe Richister. You first, first of.

Speaker 8 (01:29:18):
All, my condolences. No parents should have to bury a child,
and that's something that you've done.

Speaker 10 (01:29:25):
Are you.

Speaker 8 (01:29:28):
Having any luck getting with legal counsel or any of
those types of things out in that area or somewhere
that could potentially be helpful and put resources behind investigation.

Speaker 4 (01:29:39):
And that kind of thing.

Speaker 17 (01:29:45):
No, not really everybody that we contact. It's hard to get.

Speaker 11 (01:29:48):
People to help us. I'm sorry because we have to
go up against We have to go against the police,
the corner, the medical amateur. Because even when they picked
up d Roan Tate, I never got a death notice.

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I never identify his body, and he was already embombed
by the time.

Speaker 17 (01:30:15):
That I even knew that my son was dead. On
twenty fifth, at twelve thirty pm.

Speaker 1 (01:30:20):
Oh gosh, I'm so sorry and wow.

Speaker 11 (01:30:23):
So we have to go against so many people, and
I haven't found anybody that's really willing to go up
against them.

Speaker 17 (01:30:32):
No matter which avenue I tried to take, I can't
find anybody help me hold on. Yeah, So all I
can do is just keep pushing the issue. And like,

(01:30:53):
I know, I sound like a mother who just like.

Speaker 11 (01:30:56):
To some people who refuse to just like admit them
my son committed suicide. But first of all, I know
my son was a suicidal I know he didn't commit
a suicide, and I knew he wasn't a drug at it.
And for them to be telling me that my son
overdosed and then shot himself in the head.

Speaker 17 (01:31:15):
Either he was dead and shot himself.

Speaker 11 (01:31:17):
In the head, or he was dead from a self
inflicted gunshot wound and then he overdose. You are just
telling me basically that I just have to admit and
accept the fact that I got a dead son and
they don't really care who did it or how or
why when there are people who are telling.

Speaker 17 (01:31:34):
What happened and they basically just said that they don't
have enough proof to that.

Speaker 4 (01:31:44):
Randy, no words.

Speaker 5 (01:31:52):
My very sincere condolences, and I would like to know
because how can the community, if you could speak out
to your community that is there, how could they best
support you as you go through each day and try
to obtain justice.

Speaker 4 (01:32:10):
How could they support you.

Speaker 11 (01:32:15):
Come stand up and speak out. I mean, like I'm
just asking everybody. I don't care if you have to
just tell your neighbor, like help somebody.

Speaker 17 (01:32:33):
Be York, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:32:35):
Yes, yes, so we need anybody to come forward.

Speaker 11 (01:32:40):
And honestly, it's what Demante is approven fact that your
kids don't have to hang out in the street.

Speaker 17 (01:32:45):
They don't have to be involved in drugs.

Speaker 11 (01:32:47):
They don't have to be gang banging because the Urante
didn't do none of that.

Speaker 17 (01:32:52):
And look at us in here, and have you been
offered some funchs?

Speaker 10 (01:33:02):
Yeah, mis Martin, I'm trying to together because I just
lost a teenage a cousin to gun violence, and so
I kind of feel your pain. I think Randy was
about to ask the question, and I know it's something
that I'm always trying to have in places that you
have someone to be able to talk to, you have

(01:33:23):
someone who can help with therapy. Do you have anyone
to be able to help you in that space because
this is a difficult journey and being able to want
to address i'm the killing of your son, but also
in being able to find the space for you to
be able to heal, which I know will take a while.
So the question is do you have that support?

Speaker 6 (01:33:48):
I think we lost your signal. Do we have it back?

Speaker 1 (01:33:56):
Yeah, it looks like we lost your signal there, So
we will try to get her back, but we will
certainly will communicate with her and their family to find
out what's next. This is a story.

Speaker 6 (01:34:10):
Again, We've covered it and it makes no sense whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (01:34:13):
When you when you when you unveil this just in
the details, are just studying in terms of how he
was found in an addict at a party. I mean,
it's just a lot of this makes no sense whatsoever.
So we appreciate her for coming on the show. Like

(01:34:37):
I say, we you know, we reported on this story
on several occasions.

Speaker 16 (01:34:40):
Uh, and just.

Speaker 1 (01:34:43):
All the best to Eric a lots in their family,
and uh, We're going to continue to try to, you know, again,
get get some sort of justice for this family because
it just doesn't make things that we just do not
come together, uh and make any sense whatsoever. And so
we'll try to get an answer to that question. Mustafa,

(01:35:05):
let me thank our panel. Let me thank Joe, Randy
and Mustafa for being on today's show. I stally appreciate it.
Thank you so very much. Folks, you can support everything
that we do here. Our goal is to is to
really focus on hop killer music again. You know, our
really focus is to really deliver the news in a
way that matters to you. In fact, I'm gonna I

(01:35:31):
was gonna do it today, but we were delayed in
getting Eric Allotts on the show. So tomorrow I'm gonna
unpack for you all the different chain is happening at
the Grio where they're getting rid of nearly all of
their shows, including their news shows, their daily news shows
with Mark Lamont Hill and Ebony Williams. And so we're

(01:35:51):
the only ones who still doing what we do.

Speaker 2 (01:35:53):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:35:53):
And so again, your support is absolutely critical, folks. Our
news matters, Our news matters. We can't see them waiting
on somebody else. But this is a perfect example. I
don't know if eric A. Lotts has been on other
news networks, I can guarantee you they're not come back
to the story. We've done this story two or three
different times, constantly trying to get updates. Which is why

(01:36:15):
black on media matters. You know a lot of people
out there love to run their mouths and criticize all
black media is black media, that.

Speaker 6 (01:36:24):
We're doing the work. We're putting in the work.

Speaker 1 (01:36:26):
We don't see it here and waste our time with
the people out there who all they do is are
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Speaker 6 (01:36:32):
That's not what we do.

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We are about speaking to the issues that matter. And
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Speaker 6 (01:36:42):
One jore not.

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Bring the Funk fan club. When we launched this show,
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And so y'all have been a huge supportive and so
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I'm looking at some news here that looks like NYPD

(01:37:06):
may be hitting onto the campus at Columbia. Give me
one second. Let's see NYPD. They've got drones flying over
campus and so they may be making a move on

(01:37:29):
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And so we will keep our eye on that story
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other folks out here.

Speaker 2 (01:37:45):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:37:45):
You do not see a commitment to a daily news
show from any of these other black on media folks,
none of them black owned a black target. Like I said,
you don't see a daily news show on Revolt, on TV,
on bet On, Aspire, on AFRO, you don't see it.
Black Enterprise, you don't see it with essence. You don't

(01:38:06):
see it with blavity. As I said, I'm gonna unpack
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Speaker 6 (01:38:20):
Unless it be real clear, you're not getting real.

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News from Shade, Room, balla Alert, Hollywood Unlocked. You're getting
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