Texas DA Seeks Reinstatement of Crystal Mason's Conviction, Hope in Haiti, Menthol Ban Delayed Again

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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Today's Friday, April twenty six, twenty twenty four. Coming up,
I'm rolling Martin Unfilter's streaming live on the Black Start Network.
I'm here in Miami, where I will later be moderating
a conversation with a Fulton County DA Fondie Willis at
the NAPCO conference. On today's show, Crystal Mason continues to
be terrorized by Republican DA in Terran County.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
They are appealing the.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Texas corpor Appeals decision getting rid of her case. We
chatting with her in her attorney. This is just an insane,
insane story. We chatting with her attorney on tonight's show. Also,
black Ohio man dies in police custody after telling the
competent he could not breathe.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
There's bodycam video we have for you.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Also, Big Tobacco successfully pays off a lot of black folks.
That's keeping the Body Administration from banning menthol cigarettes.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Will talk to of the co founder and.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Co chair of the African American Tobacco Control Leadership Council
about this devastating decision. Also, the Prime Minister of a
Haiti has a step down. We'll chat with a foreign
policy expert. About what this means for the country and
of course, uh, just the latest that's happening in the
world of politics. Lots of talk about it's time to

(01:37):
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Speaker 1 (02:19):
He's all right, fous, Welcome to Roland Martin on Filtered.

(02:42):
On Monday, Vice President Kamala Harris is going to be
in Atlanta kicking off what is being called an empowerment
economic tours, specifically targeting African Americans, especially black men. The
goal is to tout uh, the plans or sorry, the
initiatives the Biden Hairs administration has actually implemented over the
last three years, but also to lay out an agenda

(03:04):
over the next four years if they are reelected. The
first two stops are going to be taking place in
Atlanta and Detroit on Monday. They're going to be on
stage with the co host of Earn Your Leisure. This
of course, is one of the issues that you see
taking place, how they're using the vice president traveling around
the country speaking to the issues. She's a lot more active,

(03:27):
obviously than President Joe Biden is. And so this of
course is a significant issue because by starting in Atlanta,
they're focusing on what's happening there, of course economically for
African Americans historically Detroit, and then they're going to be
adding other cities to this tour over.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
The next few months. That's going to my panel. I
want to talk about this here.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Joining us on the show today, Michael im Hotep, host
African History Network show Coming to Us out of Detroit.
Also on today's panel, we are joined. We're joined by
Kelly Batheia Communications Strategies out of DC, Matt Manning, and
Civil Ro's attorney out of Corpus, Christian Glad to have

(04:10):
all three of you here, and so we're gonna be
joined by Kelly shortly.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
I'm gonna start with you, Michael.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Detroit is one of the city's vice pre President's going
to be going to and these are the type of
conversations they've got to have because they have done things.
But the reality is they have been horrible when it
comes to messaging what those issues are. But one of
the things they also want to do with this tour
is also let people know how they can tap into
the resources to access available money. Again, we're in campaign season,

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and this is them trying to address the economic issues
that are important to African Americans.

Speaker 5 (04:49):
Absolutely, this is time to show and teil. This is
time to claim your victories.

Speaker 6 (04:56):
Talk about what you've accomplished.

Speaker 5 (04:57):
The one point nine trillion dollar American Rescue plan that
saved the economy, and no Republicans in the House or
the Senate voted for the bill. When you had Republicans
saying open the schools, open the schools. It was only
Democrats who passed a bill to fund about three hundred
and if i'm about three hundred and fifty billion dollars
something like that that went to funding schools, paying for

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better ventilation systems, paying for personal protection, et cetera, personal
protection equipment, et cetera. So this is the time to
connect the policies of the Biden Harris administration, and they
have a lot to talk about. Connect that to everyday
African Americans and house impacting them. The African American Media

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Network has increased sixty percent under the buying the Harris administration.
We know we have a record number of jobs created
fifteen million jobs, over eight hundred thousand manufacturing jobs, et cetera.
But also another important thing to connect is connecting people
to the resources, connecting people to the available money.

Speaker 6 (05:57):
The reason why all this exists is.

Speaker 5 (05:59):
Because point nine million African Americans, along with other Americans,
voted for Biden Harris, especially here in Detroit. And the
reason why it's important to hit Detroit, Atlanta and other
key cities that have high African American populations is one,
these are cities that.

Speaker 6 (06:15):
Help put Biden Harris over the top. Two.

Speaker 5 (06:17):
Donald Trump is specifically targeting these cities like Philadelphia, Detroit, Atlanta,
Milwaukee that have high African American populations and saying we
need to watch those people, We need to watch those cities,
and saying somehow we engage in voter fraud. But he's
the only candidate that told his constituents to vote twice,
So this is extremely important.

Speaker 6 (06:39):
Matt.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
I've long said that they have to be doing these
type of things. We saw the Vice president, of course
on the Reproductive Freedom tour. But this here you have
to be speaking to the core audience, and what you're
seeing is you're seeing again gen X, millennials, gen Z
who are really about out economic opportunities entrepreneurship as opposed

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to previous generation generations that may be focused on social programs.
And so telling the story is one thing, but also
letting people know about resources that are available is another.

Speaker 7 (07:16):
It is it's especially important when you're in an environment
where I think we've discussed on the show, there are
a lot of Americans who have a feeling that the
economy is in worse shape than it is by actual
economic metrics. So it's important for the administration to not
only put minds at ease in terms of where the
economy is, but to correlate with that, here are resources

(07:37):
to help, you know, improve your economic situation and to
show that we're in fact concerned about making sure you
have the needs of your needs met. So I think
what's important about that is, you know, what we see
a lot of times with political rhetoric is we see
correlation to phenomena that aren't even in the control necessarily
of the politician, but they're going to take credit for it.

(07:59):
And here there are a lot of things that the
Biden Harris administration should be taking credit for. I think
it's important that they go on that tour trumpeting that success.
Particularly I know when you were talking to Michael, and
Michael being from Detroit, I think I saw the other
day that Detroit valuations of homes correct me if I'm wrong,
it's like significantly higher in the last year than it's
been in a very long time.

Speaker 8 (08:18):
That's the kind of thing you have to.

Speaker 7 (08:19):
Go and say, black people, this is what my administration
has done for you, this is the consequence of our policy,
and this is why you should give us another four
years of a go here in the White House, because
we're working for you, and the fruits of our labor
are things like a significantly increased housing market in Detroit.
So they've got to go because the reality is if

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they don't do that, the narrative will be controlled by
the other side, where they're either through misinformation or cherry
picking certain data, they will try to paint a picture
that's not necessarily true.

Speaker 8 (08:50):
So they've got to control the narrative in this circumstance.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Absolutely do that now.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Of course, going to Atlanta, Georgia battleground state, Detroit Michigan
battleground state. Wouldn't be shocked they're going to go to Philadelphia,
Pennsylvania battleground state. But I would also and I wouldn't
be surprised if Charlotte is on that list. North Carolina
battleground state, Milwaukee, Wisconsin battleground state. But I also would
hope it would go to a place like Houston, although

(09:17):
that's in Texas. That could be beneficial to send a
congressman Colin Alreds bid running up for the United States
Sin against Ted Cruz, but you also are going to
a place where you have a significant black entrepreneur class
there as well. You've got Hbcuexas Southern University, prayer Viea
is only fifty miles down the road. So I think
all of those are critically important, and so I would

(09:40):
really hope this is going to be an expansive tour
that is taking the message around the country, speaking to
what has been done, but also what they're planning to
do for the next four years. It's one thing to
say what we've done, but you also have to have
an agenda for what we want to do if getting
re elected.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Let me go to a break, we come.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Back We're going to talk this case out of Texas
that simply not go away. For eight years, Crystal Mason
has been terrorized by the Terran County District Attorney's office. Yes,
I'm calling it terrorized. And here they now are going
to appeal. They're going to appeal a Texas appeals Court's
decision to throughout her case. This is literally one of

(10:19):
the dumbest things I've ever seen in my life. And
how they are just terrorizing this black woman is beyond shame.
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Speaker 1 (12:26):
When we say a Republican party, they don't like black people.
This is a perfect example of that. The Tarrant County
District Attorney's Office, they have announced that they're going to
be appealing last month's ruling by the Texas Appeals Court
that overturned the Crystal Masis twenty eighteen conviction for illegal voting. Now,

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Crystal Mason was on federal probation for felony conviction in
twenty sixteen when she voted in an election with a
provisional ballot. Now, she says she didn't know she could
not vote. This actually went to court. The folks were
the probation folks said in testimony that she didn't know.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
She was not told.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
She was convicted anyway two years later a voter fraud
and sentenced to five years behind bars because state law
only allows fellows to vote if they have fully finished
their sentence, including any parole or supervision requirements. Now, keep
in mind she had to go back to federal prison
for violing the terms of our probation, and then they

(13:38):
tacked on two more years of supervisor released.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
So although she has not gone to state.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Prison, she didn't have to go back to federal prison
because she was indicted. On March twenty eight, the Texas
Second Court of Appeals overturned Macey's conviction because she didn't
have quote actual knowledge unquote that she couldn't vote while
on federal supervise.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Release in a tax fraud case.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Now, I want to read for you the statement because
this is important before I go to her turning, and
it shows you how sadistic and shameful these folks are
in Ran County, Texas. This is the statement that they released,
And when I read this for you, you're probably going

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to say, you've got to be kidding me.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
This is a.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Quote from this.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Statement.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
The trials, the trial Court's guilty verdict should should be affirmed.
Voting is a cornerstone of our democracy. This office will
protect the ballot box from frausters who think our laws
don't apply to them. Crystal Mason, a four time felon,

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was convicted of illegal voting on March twenty eight, twenty eighteen,
in a bench trial in the four hundred and thirty
second Judicial District Court. She was convicted based on testimony
from the election judge and poll clerk that she read
the provisional voter affidavit, affirm that she provided accurate information,
signed the affidavit, and testify it if the affidavit language

(15:24):
was clearly understandable to mean that a convicted fellas such
as herself was ineligible to vote. On March twenty eight,
twenty twenty four, the Second Quarter of Appeals reversed her
conviction and published an opinion stating if there was evidence
showing Mason may not have known she was ineligible to
vote on the day she voted, the Second quart of

(15:46):
Appeals failed to give proper deference to the trial court's
guilty verdict and rewaited the evidence in favor of Mason.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
The second Quarter of Appeals misapplied.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
The sufficiency of review but not viewing the evidence in
the light y'all gonna love us here by not viewing
the evidence and the light most favorable to the trial
court's verdict in contravention to binding precedent for the Texas

(16:19):
Court of Criminal Appeals, the Second Court of Appeals publication
of its opinion creates the very real risk that future
sufficiency cases will likewise be wrongly analyzed and decided. This
office request if the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals grant
review in this case reversed the Second Court of Appeals

(16:41):
decision and affirm the trial court's guilty verdict.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
That's goal.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Taz County DIA's office Kim Cole, Crystal Mason's attorney Jonas
Right now, Kim hate to have the fact that we're
talking to you again about this case.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
This has been going on.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
For eight years, and for people who don't understand, she
found a provisional ballot. The ballot was not even counted,
so wasn't like it actually was included. That's one They
also lie in this statement Kim by saying that, oh,

(17:19):
she knew this, she knew that. And then they also
lie by saying that the uh, once there was evidence
Seawan Mason being out of.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Domes, she was indulgible.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
It's court to the court, So they're trying to say
that they're wrong. There was testimony, wasn't there actual testimony
by a probation officer who said no, one told her
she couldn't vote.

Speaker 11 (17:46):
Correct, That is absolutely correct, Roland. And it wasn't just
a probation officer. He was a supervisory probation officer. He
was overall the probation officers. And he testified understanding. This
was their witness. This was not Crystal's witness. This was
their witness that they called to the stand and they
asked him, point blank, didn't you tell her that.

Speaker 10 (18:08):
She was not eligible to vote? And he said, no,
I did not.

Speaker 11 (18:14):
They they conveniently leave out the fact that, you know,
they point out that she filled out a provisional ballot,
filled out her you know, direct information.

Speaker 10 (18:24):
Yes, she did. Filling out a provisional ballot is not illegal.
And then they go on.

Speaker 11 (18:30):
Who if they were if she didn't think she was
eligible to vote, her she knew she wasn't eligible to vote,
Who would put that right name on there the accurate information?
Who would sign the ballot if they knew they weren't eligible?

Speaker 10 (18:47):
She didn't know? And that's.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah, And what bothers me here? Again?

Speaker 1 (18:55):
I love this line here that they misapplied the standard
because they should have only reviewed evidence in light most
favorable favorable to the trial courts.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Verdict. That's not their job.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Their job is to look at the verdict, the prosecution
and the defense weigh the evidence. So basically, the Tan
County DA is saying, oh, y'all should overlook anything it
doesn't make us look good.

Speaker 11 (19:25):
And that's essentially what they're saying. Unfortunately, the hypocrisy is
real because we've seen time and time again that they
have absolutely ignored President. Otherwise we wouldn't be where we
are right now with the Roe v. Wade situation, with
affirmative Action and numerous other other president that has provided
and expanded rights for minorities. So the hypocrisy is real, right,

(19:48):
but that is unfortunately the standard that anytime there is
an appeal, they are to view the evidence in the
light most favorable to the upholding the verdict. However, that
doesn't mean be ignorant, and they did not prove their case.
Their witnesses contradicted each other. And what they also failed

(20:09):
to include was that the Second Court of Appeals said
that even if she had read the affidavit, there is
absolutely no language whatsoever in that affidavit. Because Crystal testified
that she didn't read it, they're going on her two
neighbor's testimony that was inconclusive that she read it.

Speaker 10 (20:31):
They was like, well, I think she read it. You know,
she was moving her.

Speaker 11 (20:34):
Finger anyway, Christal did not actually read the affidavit. She
was filling out her information because on one side is
the attestation. The other side is where she fills out
her information, and she was putting her information on there
because they did admonish her that she had to provide
accurate information, and she made sure everything matched up with
her driver's license.

Speaker 10 (20:55):
And so that being said.

Speaker 11 (20:58):
Even if she read it, there's nothing in the provisional
ballot affidavit that says that if you are ABC and
X y Z.

Speaker 10 (21:07):
You are not eligible to vote.

Speaker 11 (21:09):
Nothing in there, So how would she have known.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
He was also, he's all interesting, I mean, here's the deal.
So she was convicted of tax fraud. She was inflating
returns for her clients in terms of preparing their taxes. Okay,
that's why she went. When we were their pressure leaves,
Crystal Mason a four.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Time felon was it.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
It's like, wasn't that tied to the same case? And
so they're trying to give the impression that, oh, this
is a repeat offender. This woman is a minace to society.

Speaker 11 (21:50):
Yes, that is after they have continued to persecute and
disparage her. Here what they fell to Crystal isn't the
same Roland, I mean she is, and every saying gotta
pass and every sin I got a future. Okay, So
let she does have a prior criminal history. Otherwise she
wouldn't even be in this situation to ascertain whether or

(22:10):
not she was eligible to vote.

Speaker 10 (22:11):
Okay, So that's how we're landing here. Yes, she is
a felon.

Speaker 11 (22:15):
However, what they fail to acknowledge in stating this, she's
a four time felon, which they also included the one
where she was acquitted, this particular case where we can.

Speaker 10 (22:29):
Look past at right.

Speaker 11 (22:30):
Yeah, Anyway, in all of her other cases, Crystal pled guilty.
She admitted her wrongs, even to the case that got
her sent to federal prison. She has no problem holding
herself accountable for the things that she's done wrong. Why
on earth would she fight for seven years to prove

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her innocence when in all of these other cases she
admitted her guilty because she do something wrong.

Speaker 12 (23:00):
She was like, I did it.

Speaker 11 (23:01):
I mean, I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna take accountability
for my actions here.

Speaker 10 (23:06):
She didn't know she was not eligible, so she refuses.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
I mean right, I mean the thing, the thing that
jumps out to me is before I go to before
I go to Matt and Michael with their questions.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Okay, has she gone to stay prison?

Speaker 1 (23:26):
No, but she actually because of this, she returned to
federal prison for two years.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
You would think a common sense.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
DA would say, Okay, we've been dealing with this one
case for eight years. They literally are spending more time
on this case than they have on heinous crimes that
have been committed.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
So the waste of resources, to me is unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
This is no We're going to make an example of
of this black woman, and this is about creating a
chilling effect about anybody else who's formerly incarcerated in voting,
the same thing they did when they attacked the black
man in Houston who stood in live for six hours
and guess what he was later found he could vote,

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and he now says, hey, I'm not going to vote again.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Because of what I went through. That's what this is
all about.

Speaker 10 (24:27):
You're absolutely right, you are absolutely right.

Speaker 11 (24:31):
I've said over and over again in their summation. In
Crystal's original trial, they said they wanted to send the
message to voters much like their ridiculous, disparaging, inaccurate statement
that they released yesterday. They are trying to send a message.
They are trying to quote unquote protect the ballot box,

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as if, of course, Roland you know where that comes from,
as if folk like us.

Speaker 10 (25:01):
Shouldn't be there.

Speaker 11 (25:03):
And so they are absolutely still trying to send the
same message seven years later, eight years later, we're coming
up on another election. Eight years later, they're still trying
to send the same message. They don't want folks who
look like Crystal at the ballot box. They are trying
to protect the ballot box, not from frosters, because let's
be honest, we've seen the documentation of who was committing

(25:24):
all the voter fraud in the past few elections.

Speaker 10 (25:26):
They don't look like Crystal.

Speaker 11 (25:28):
So they're not trying to protect the ballot box from Crystal,
I mean from fraudsters.

Speaker 10 (25:34):
They're trying to protect the ballot box.

Speaker 11 (25:36):
From those who are have been typically disenfranchised by this
since this system, and that is the whole point of
them continuing to beat this dead horse.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
And correct me if I'm wrong. There was a This
is just of the peace. Russ Casey. We admitted to
forging signatures to get on the primary ballot, and he
pled guilty to records Tampre.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
He resigned. That happened in twenty eighteen. These folks are.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Spending more time, and he was an elected official. They're
spending more time going after her than they did going
to add somebody like him, and in fact, and in
fact and in fact before that, and he was sentenced
to two years in jail, but it was probated over
five years.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
But they want to see in her to prison.

Speaker 11 (26:43):
They absolutely want to send her to prison because they
want people who look like her. They want to protect
the ballot box from folks who look like her and
you and me and want to and mister Rogers down
there in Houston. They want people that look like to
fear that they may suffer the same faith.

Speaker 10 (27:03):
Look at what all they're doing. Look at all of the.

Speaker 11 (27:08):
Taxpayer money they're spending to put an innocent woman in prison.

Speaker 10 (27:14):
It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Matt Manning your question.

Speaker 7 (27:25):
So Kim, thank you first for your advocacy. You're doing
stellar work. And ironically I'm writing a PDR to the
Court of Criminal Appeals as we speak, So.

Speaker 8 (27:36):
This is really kind of appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (27:37):
But my question to you is this, first, have you
ever seen an appeal like this, because my understanding is
the Quarter Criminal Appeals send it down saying y'all use
the wrong construction of the statue and the opinion that
came out of the Second Court of Appeals was determining
the sufficiency of the evidence.

Speaker 8 (27:52):
So as far as I see this, this is purely political.

Speaker 7 (27:55):
And to that end, is there any mechanism that y'all
have to dism miss a frivolous appeal like you would
like a Rule ninety one, a dismissal on the civil side,
or any dismissal like that, because I think it's frankly
unethical to appeal it following the Court of Criminal Appeal's
opinion in this case. But I haven't seen the mechanism
whereby you could get it thrown out, you know, just

(28:16):
on its face, because I don't know how to get
there at all.

Speaker 11 (28:21):
From my understanding, there isn't one. We will have an
opportunity to file a response to their requests for discretionary review,
so we're still obviously I'm not her only attorney, and
we're still evaluating whether or not we will respond because,
to be quite honest, it's trash. I don't know if

(28:43):
it's trash, and you know, we're debating whether or not
we actually even you know, want.

Speaker 8 (28:48):
To even.

Speaker 11 (28:50):
Give it the credence to draft a response. But I
believe ultimately we will because we should say something because
this does not deserve the court's review, and hopefully the
Texas Quotter Criminal Appeals will not take it up. But no,
I don't believe there's anything any mechanism, like on the

(29:11):
civil side where we can just get this out of here.

Speaker 10 (29:13):
Please.

Speaker 11 (29:14):
This doesn't even doesn't even require one moment of your time.

Speaker 7 (29:20):
I mean, I think this is sanctionable, our arguably sanctionable
conduct because it's so rare that you have the top
court and rolling for all the viewers. The Court Criminal
Appeals in Texas is like our criminal Supreme Court. So
this is basically the criminal Supreme Court saying y'all got
it wrong below, look at it again, them acquitting following
that instruction, and then this Tarritor County DA still trying

(29:42):
to press the issue because he doesn't want to lose
in the court of public opinion. But the court has
already said what it is, so I mean to me,
it's sanctionable because I don't think there's an ethical basis
on which to advance this appeal anyway.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
My thoughts well, I certainly hope the court actually does
smack them down because this continuation of this case. It's
eight years she voted in twenty sixteen. I'm sorry, you.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Don't spend eight years on a case like this.

Speaker 5 (30:11):
Michael all right, Tony Cole, thanks for coming back on
giving us an update. First and foremost, how is Crystal
doing with this new news?

Speaker 6 (30:24):
Number one? Number two?

Speaker 5 (30:26):
Is there anything possibly the Department that Justice can do,
the Civil Rights Division, anything like that in regards to
suing Texas?

Speaker 6 (30:36):
What have you? So?

Speaker 11 (30:39):
First of all, Crystal is understandably distraught. She thought finally
that this nightmare was over because it is clear that
she has been targeted.

Speaker 10 (30:52):
They haven't put this.

Speaker 11 (30:55):
I always talk about the Affluenza team, you know, the
case that made national attention. This young man committed several primes,
you know, stole a vehicle, stole alcohol, killed for people,
and they did not advocate him going to prison.

Speaker 10 (31:14):
Crystal filled out a form.

Speaker 6 (31:17):
That's it.

Speaker 11 (31:18):
She failed out a form with accurate information, she didn't
lie on the form, and they want to send her
to prison. This is absolutely ridiculous. I would agree that
the continued prosecution should be sectionable because there is no
basis for it, absolutely no basis for it.

Speaker 10 (31:38):
So Crystal is not well. She is.

Speaker 11 (31:43):
She's very upset. She really really took particular issue with
the DA's attempt to disparage her in their last statement.
Their language was vile and very to me, very unprofessional.

(32:04):
So she really took issue with that to you know,
paint her as a four time felling. No, this conviction
was thrown out, so you can say, I mean, so
she isn't a four time FELA. But they just really
took you know, called her fraudster. They they really took
some low blows. And so she's not she's not happy,

(32:26):
and she was looking forward to moving forward with her
future without this hanging over her head.

Speaker 10 (32:34):
She has had to worry for the last seven years.

Speaker 11 (32:37):
At any moment this case could have turned the opposite
direction and she would have been looking at five years
in jail, in prison, and so.

Speaker 10 (32:48):
She finally thought that was over.

Speaker 11 (32:50):
Yours second question and I apologize I forgot justice vision.

Speaker 10 (32:59):
Yeah, I think there's a role that they should play.

Speaker 11 (33:04):
There are some issues going on in Tarrant County that
definitely would In fact, there's some other issues going on
in Tarrant County. May not be known to you, but
those of us locally know there's I actually am drafting
a DJ complaint not in regards to Crystal's case, but
in some other infringements of rights there in Tarrant County.

(33:29):
So the DJ should definitely step in and actually make
a move in Crystal's case too. If typically they don't
get involved in pending cases, but they definitely should look
at Tarrant County's.

Speaker 10 (33:48):
Prosecution period, not just in Crystal's case.

Speaker 11 (33:52):
But in other their criminal prosecution period, because I guarantee
you Crystal's case is the tip of the icebern as
far as this malicious prosecution goes.

Speaker 6 (34:04):
Wow, all right, thank you.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Well, it is just again again it is shameful to me.
It is is utterly ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
And again they are terrorizing this woman. That's what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Uh. Their their their their behaviors and abomination. Uh.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
And I really believe that civil rights groups and others
should be showing up at the Terran County Commissioners meeting
condemning the DA, demanding the commissioners do an audit of
their department. To waste resources, to waste tax pair resources
going after this one woman for eight years.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Uh, it's nuts. Uh.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
And and I really do do hope that folks in
Terren County and Fort Worth are loudly protesting this district attorney,
calling him out and demanding he answer to this, because
this just makes no sense whatsoever.

Speaker 11 (34:54):
I agree, Roland, I agree, and we have been so
many any organizations and individuals have reached out in support
of Crystal, and we are planning they are planning some
type of actual action and protest of them continuing to

(35:17):
pursue Crystal, not just in the interests of justice, but
also in the interests of fiscal responsibility. They're spending taxpayer
dollars on a political narrative, and that's not how the
taxpayers want their dollars spent.

Speaker 10 (35:37):
And I would think if.

Speaker 11 (35:39):
There are funds allocated toward fighting crime, they would really
prefer that they pursue people who have actually committed crimes.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Absolutely, Attorney Kim Call, we surely appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (35:52):
Thanks a lot.

Speaker 10 (35:53):
Thank you Roland.

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Speaker 1 (38:54):
Well, the tobacco lobby spent a lot of money, a
lot of money, uh, getting a lot of black folks
to take up their position to fight the ban on
Menthol cigarettes by the Biden Harris Federal Drug Administration. Well,
it looks like that was money well spent. Today the
Biden Harris administration announced that they are not going to

(39:18):
be banning Menthol's cigarettes. This was the recommendation of the FDA.
Many folks thought this was going to actually go on
till next year, but the administration again has not provided
a timeline for a final decision on the band. Health
advocacy decisions should have been made by January twentieth for

(39:38):
the band to be in effect by twenty twenty five.
Because the FDA, the agency behind the band, will need
a full year for full implementation. Again, it was a
very orchestrated campaign by big tobacco to get African Americans
to oppose this. One of the things they did was
spread massive lives that if by getting rid of men

(40:00):
and thal cigarettes, this is going to cause significant harm
in the black community by having cops target African Americans,
And so what do they do. They employed civil rights
leaders like Reverendel Sharpton. They also utilized political stratus like
Antoine Seawright. They had mothers of the movement. In fact,
Sabrina Fulton sent out a tweet today saying she was

(40:21):
thankful for this position because this decision, because it could
have hurt African Americans being targeted by cops for having
Menthoughs cigarettes.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
All of those actually lives. Okay, they've had.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
They had law enforcement out there, black law enforcement officers
saying the exact same thing.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Uh and uh. They were successful.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Krol macgruder is the co founder and co chair of
the African American Tobacco Controlled Leadership Council. She joins us
right now, Carol, glad to have you on the show.
Saw you a couple of weeks ago with the National
Medical Association. You had significant number of black organizations that
were in support of this menthol Band. You also had
a variety of other groups as well, the group Tobacco

(41:04):
of Free Kids, a lot of people who were standing
behind this.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
But let's just be real clear, it was.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Big tobacco money spread around the black community that led
to this decision.

Speaker 17 (41:16):
Yes, Roland, we were so disappointed that the Biden administration
has put a pause on getting this rule out which
was promised to be out. Actually we're over several years now,
and actually since President Obama signed the Tobacco Control Act
in two thousand and nine, we're fifteen years out. And

(41:37):
the groups that are in support of getting the deadliest product,
the deadliest target of black men off the market, which
are newport cigarettes and mentilated tobacco products. In our lawsuit
that we found an additional lawsuit that was April second,
So that lawsuit is still in play. And this will
not be the first time that Black people have had

(41:57):
to throw themselves at the mercy of the court to
be protected when our own government will not stand up
and do the right thing and protect us. So our
co plaintifs in the lawsuit are ash action on smoking
in health, the National Medical Association, our nation's African American doctors,
and the American Medical Association has rejoined our lawsuit just

(42:18):
today as a matter of fact. So it's a sad case,
a sad day when our nation's doctors have to sue
the federal government to compel them to do what should
be a public health decision and not a political decision.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
And again, what Big Tobacco did, they had they were
funding African Americans meet with the Biden administration, and so
what they said is like, Oh, you don't want to
do this because this could harm your re election efforts
when it comes to reaching African American voters. That's literally
what they were saying to the Biden Hairris administration.

Speaker 12 (42:54):
That is correct.

Speaker 17 (42:55):
That meant the lated tobacco smokers are going to rebeil
and against the Biden administration. But all those menthilated tobacco
smokers have a family member such as myself, who see
our families dying and our children addicted, another generation of
our children addicted, and so and this has to stop.
And the law that the FDA is going to put out,

(43:16):
it's not about the individual. This is about the head
of the snake. This is about the tobacco industry, the manufactures,
so there won't be anything left too smuggle to have
a black market because we're cutting it off at the head,
as opposed a lot of times. This is compared to
War on Drugs where we went out and arrested black
boys on the street. So this is about getting to those,

(43:37):
getting to the Wizard of Oz behind that curtain, who's
manipulating the strings to keep the black community addicted, with
us giving our resources and our bodies, our lives, paying
for our own deaths, and they have done everything they
could to pull out all the stops to keep the
status quo.

Speaker 12 (43:56):
But we will not be deterred.

Speaker 17 (43:57):
We were not going anywhere, and this is a fight
that the thinking people of our population. The National Association
for the Advancement of Color People Delta Sigma Theta Sorority,
Incorporated has two resolutions supporting this. The National Council Negro
Women and all those groups represent our voters, and those
groups represent people who really take a measured, considered discussion

(44:20):
and debate about this issue, which is very complex and
it scares people, and so we ask people like Reverend
al Sharpton ben Chavis help.

Speaker 12 (44:28):
Us fight against the industry.

Speaker 17 (44:30):
They owe us actually reparations for the harm that's been
caused our community. And that's the next phase of this fight,
is putting a number price tag on the reparations that
black people, black smokers who are victims of the tobacco industry.
Of how we can turn our people into survivors of
what has been done of this racist, pernicious targeting for decades.

(44:53):
How can we turn that around so that our people
are survivors and have good health, that they can enjoy
their health. Here, I'm here in Atlanta right now at
the African American Mayors Association meeting AMAH, and so our
black mayors are on board. They're still discussion. But when
you see your I talked to the mayor of New Rochelle.
Her father is a Newport smoker. So people are living this,

(45:15):
seeing it with their own families. As people die and
become sick, and the length of time that it takes
that our people cannot enjoy their old age and be
able to contribute to their family, enjoy their grandchildren because
they're too sick to do so. And so that day
is coming to an end and we need the Biden
administrated on administration on board. But in interm we keep

(45:37):
going city by city, state by state. Massachusetts has done it,
California has done it. We're looking at Maine, and we
are available to make this happen, and so that local
municipalities do have the authority to ban the sell of
these products in their communities. If we do it at
the federal level, then it's global, and then we were
cutting it off at the manufacturer's level. If the Biden

(46:00):
administration doesn't want to move and do the right thing,
we continue the work that we're doing to get these
deadly products out of our communities and to save the
next generation of our children who deserve to be protected.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
And again, we work with you. We work with the
Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids. I had somebody send me
a text today. We were in a group chat. We
were talking about how a lot of black folks were
paid off. Somebody said, Roland, they didn't They didn't try
to throw any money at you. I said no, because
folks know how I despise cigarette smoke. I said, so

(46:35):
they wouldn't eve attempt to try to sit here and
throw some money at me. And so I absolutely was
in support of this because it's also it's about black health,
and people need to understand that this is often what happens.
People need to understand them money, hundreds of thousands of
dollars that were being spent behind the scenes to get

(46:56):
Black people to oppose this Menthal band. And again, what
was most insidious was for them to be throwing out
that old black men could be targeted by cops and
could be arrested by cops and could be harassed by
cops if they had menthol cigarettes, when this band had
absolutely nothing to do with that. Those real lies that

(47:17):
were being spread to scare Black people, and the tactic worked.

Speaker 12 (47:22):
And it did work.

Speaker 17 (47:23):
And how they latch onto our legitimate pain and suffering
and the legitimate need and grievances that we have and
the need for a reform and that we have to
be up. We have to do those same things. We
have to do the police reform, and we have to
get these products off the market, and we need to
do that simultaneously at.

Speaker 12 (47:40):
The same time.

Speaker 17 (47:41):
We can't wait until we solve racism in America to
get the biggest predator, the biggest killer off the market,
which is the tobacco industry. We need them out now
and that's actually probably if it wasn't for all the
political interference and easier lift and that this is the beginning,
this isn't the end. So people are you know, they're afraid,
like what's.

Speaker 12 (48:00):
Going to happen.

Speaker 17 (48:00):
What's going to happen is we're going to have services
for our people. That's already happening. We black smokers, through
the taxes they pay, they've already paid for every single
thing that they could need to help them to get
off of nicotine. And so when we're working to get
them what they've already paid for, and that they need
to understand that they are the victims in this and

(48:22):
that no one loves a mentilated tobacco smoker more than
the African American Tobacco Control Leadership Council.

Speaker 12 (48:28):
That is why we exist, and that we're.

Speaker 17 (48:30):
Working hard to save the lives of the forty five
thousand Black people who die every year directly from tobacco
induced diseases. That's not counting secondhand smoke. That's not counting
all the asthma, all the poor quality of life and
health that we have in our old age because of
these debilitating diseases, diabetes, all of the things that we have.

(48:50):
They're exacerbated by smoking. Most of our diabetic amputations are smokers.
And so people need to understand that this touch is
every aspect of our life, whether you smoke or not,
it's affecting our community, and that the only way the
tobacco industry can survive is to addict another generation of
our children. And so if you're an addicted smoker, protect

(49:14):
do the right thing, Stand up and protect our next
generation of our children. This is what's at stake here,
and demand the services that you need to get off
of these products. And the first thing is to get
it out of our communities so that it's not always
around and part of our community, our norms and our communities.

Speaker 12 (49:32):
It's not normal, Matt.

Speaker 7 (49:38):
So the question I have is is there a precedent
for banning a comparable product that has been specifically targeted
on one demographic? And I asked because I understand the necessity,
I understand the value, and I support it. I am
wondering what the response has been in relation to the
obvious arguments. I'm sure on the other side about government overreaching,

(50:01):
about the idea that people have the choice whether the
smoke or not.

Speaker 8 (50:04):
I mean, I understand.

Speaker 10 (50:06):
This is right.

Speaker 12 (50:07):
This is what people need to understand about the menthol.

Speaker 17 (50:09):
When President Barack Obama signed the Tobacco Control Act in
two thousand and nine, the other flavors incombustible tobacco were
taken off the market.

Speaker 12 (50:17):
Menthol was left in.

Speaker 17 (50:19):
Black people are not the only people that smoke menthol,
but the vast majority of black smokers smoke menthol because
of the pernicious and racist targeting that we have endured
for decades. So Canada, the European Union, which is made
up of several, you know, countries in Western Europe and Europe,
they've taken it off and so that conversation of race, well,

(50:41):
you know, they have black people all over the world.
So the Black Canadians, they weren't saying, oh, you know,
our Black Canadians need menthol because they didn't endure the racist.

Speaker 12 (50:49):
Targeting that we've had.

Speaker 17 (50:50):
You know, when you're in Detroit, you look across the
river and there's Canada. The difference between Detroit and Windsor Canada,
which is a stone's throw, that's the difference in this
fight that we have in America for justice for health.
Justice for black people and health is our first civil right.
You can't enjoy any other rights if you're unhealthy, and

(51:11):
so our community we need to get healthy, and we
need to get the vector of death and disease, which
is the tobacco industry, out of our community.

Speaker 12 (51:20):
And however you feel about it, you.

Speaker 17 (51:22):
Need to disclose that you take money from the number
one killer of black people. If that's part of your conversation,
if that's if you're defending them, if you're feeling that
you know we have the right to pick how we
want to kill ourselves, you need to disclose that you
take money from the tobacco industry.

Speaker 12 (51:39):
People need to know that.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Michael.

Speaker 5 (51:45):
Hey, Carol, thanks for coming back on again. I remember
when you were on before dealing with this topic. And
it's interesting that a lot of these people, these civil
rights leaders, etc. Who say black lives matter, would take
money to not ban of mental cigarettes and save black lives.
That's a that's a conundrum right there. But two quick questions.
Number one, how would this band actually work? Because before

(52:10):
I think we're talking about a ban on manufacturing, not
on possession, So how would the band actually work?

Speaker 6 (52:17):
And two? Where can people go to.

Speaker 5 (52:19):
Get factual information on what the proposal is what the
proposed band is.

Speaker 12 (52:25):
Those are great questions.

Speaker 17 (52:26):
So our website which is Saving black Lives dot org.
Saving black Lives dot org, you can go on our
website and you can sign up to get all of
our email. On our eblasts we have sometimes the links
where you can go and sign in and sign up
and let your congress person know how you feel. The
Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids. They you know, they have
a lot of more resources than they do, so they

(52:48):
already have the forum up right now where you can
write your congressmen to tell them how you feel about this.
So they're a great source of information that Campaign for
Tobacco Free Kids. They have all of the cities and
states that have that have already enacted legislation to take
these products off the market. So how this works in
different ways on the FDA level, the tobacco companies, they

(53:10):
would still be allowed to actually manufacture in this country,
but they could only export, which is another issue because
we're allowing them to export death to someone else. But
they would no longer be sold, but it would not
be illegal to purchase them or to use them. And
so we know that people. I'm from the hood, I'm
from the community. I have my own family members in California.

(53:31):
We passed the law, they still are getting some products.
So it's a process. It's not magic. We passed the
Voting Rights Act fifty years ago, where you know, I
just was listening to where they're charged, you know, trying
to put the sister in jail who.

Speaker 12 (53:43):
Tried to vote. So these fights.

Speaker 17 (53:46):
Are real and they're not going to go away tomorrow.
It's not going to be some magic. It's going to
be digging in. It's the beginning of the end of
this of this, these decades of predatory targeting, and it
takes resource, since it takes our people to know that.

Speaker 12 (54:01):
We're supporting them and that we're going to.

Speaker 17 (54:03):
Get healthier together, and that our federal government, our state governments,
our local health departments need to give black smokers what
they need and to treat addiction, nicotine addiction in all
its forms and the effects that we have we endure
because of stress, because of racism. So we're looking at
innovation to help our people to get off of these products.

(54:26):
So we need to work on supply and we need
to work on demand as well. We know they're still
demand and we are rolling out as quickly as we can.
We're giving technical assistance to governments and cities across this
country of the best way to help our smokers to
know that they can stop, they can get off of
these products.

Speaker 12 (54:45):
And they can, they really can. They just need a
little extra help.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
All right, then, well, look, keep the fight up, Carol.
We're going to continue with the ballot as well. It
is not over over, so thanks about over.

Speaker 17 (55:01):
It's far from over. So we're not going anywhere, and we'll.

Speaker 12 (55:05):
Stay tuned for the laws.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
You appreciate it.

Speaker 17 (55:07):
It's possible that the federal that the that the courts
will intervene and they will handle this, and so that's
that's our next tech. Our next line of defense is
what the courts are going to say.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
All right, well, appreciate it, Thanks you a lot, Thank you.
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Speaker 1 (58:10):
Another Haites presidential transition councilors in place. The Prime Minister
Ariel Henry has resigned. The nine person council, comprised of
seven voting members and two observers representative of Haitian political
parties and civic society groups, was inaugurated at Port of
Prince's National Palace on Thursday. They will spend the next
severer must trying to create stability in the Caribbean country

(58:31):
the violent gains of over run since the twenty twenty
one assassination of Haitian President Jauven Mois. Johanna LeBlanc, partner
at the Odomi Advisory Group, served as a foreign policy
advisor for the Haitian government and recently served as a
senior staffer and Capitol Hill. She joins us now to
discuss what happens next. Johannah, glad to have you here.
So look, at the end of the day, they've got

(58:54):
to get a hold of a security. You cannot have
these gains controlling the country. But that also means having
some sense of stability. Who can actually lead this country
to a sense of normalcy?

Speaker 12 (59:13):
Thank you, Roland.

Speaker 10 (59:14):
It's always a pleasure to join you.

Speaker 16 (59:16):
So now that the Presidential Council has been installed, the
next step will be to appoint a Prime Minister, and
then the Prime Minister will create a cabinet of ministers.

Speaker 10 (59:29):
And the whole purpose is.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
To one.

Speaker 16 (59:33):
Ensure the smooth transition of the Kenian admission into.

Speaker 10 (59:38):
The country, to help address security.

Speaker 16 (59:41):
Crisis in the country, and to also organize free, fair,
transparent and inclusive elections in the country. That is scheduled
to happen in November of twenty twenty five. But there
are a lot of concerns.

Speaker 10 (59:56):
The people on the.

Speaker 16 (59:57):
Ground are concerned about the king and led mission coming
into the country, and rightfully so, because previous interventions in
the country have failed great greatly, in particular when the
United States occupied Haiti for over twenty years and then
you had the UN mission that came into the country

(01:00:17):
brought cholera which led to the killing of countless Haitians
and left many Haitians sick. So so rightfully so, they're skeptical.
But what I think though, with the Kenyan led mission
is that President Ruto has demonstrated himself to be a
pan africanist. I think it's a great opportunity to have

(01:00:39):
another Black nation supporting another Black nation and finding stability.

Speaker 8 (01:00:44):
But there will certainly.

Speaker 16 (01:00:45):
Be challenges and I think President Ruto is up for
the for the challenge.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Leah a lot of challenges.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
But also you have all these conflicting parties, uh and
and it's it's like, you know, how will folks be
satisfied if you can put leadership in place that will
act from a presidential level, a prime ministerial level, from
a government level to get things going, because it just
seems like, you know, Haiti is in a constant state
of drama and instability and insecurity.

Speaker 16 (01:01:20):
Yeah, since nineteen eighty six, the country has dealt with
severe instability. You are absolutely correct, and the country is
on its knees Haiti. And something that I think that's
important for the viewers to understand is the role of
Haiti and the liberation movement. Haiti as the first black
independent country in the world. Its independence was not just

(01:01:42):
about Haitians liberating themselves from the oppression and suppression of France,
but it was also about liberating other black folks.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Right.

Speaker 16 (01:01:49):
So a year after the country getting its independence, it
amended its constitution to make it such that anyone who
is black who are to step foot on Haiti soil
will be considered free. White man could not own land
in the country.

Speaker 10 (01:02:01):
Nor be a slave master.

Speaker 16 (01:02:03):
So those sort of laws severely undermine the notion of
white supremacy, and Haiti had to pay a price for
that want the reparations and the billions of dollars to
France and the United States did not recognize Haiti as
an independent state for over sixty years, and beyond that,
Haiti helped with the independence of many countries across the region.

(01:02:24):
So now Haiti has helped its friends, its neighbors. Haiti
is now on its knees and it's time for the
rest of the world to support Haiti. And this is
why I welcome President Ruto's mission into the country. It
shows solidarity, it shows Pan Africanism, and I think it's
also an opportunity for President Ruto to show to the
rest of the world what a prosperous collaboration could look

(01:02:47):
like between two Black nations nations.

Speaker 5 (01:02:53):
Question for the panel, Michael your first, All right, thanks
for coming on and give us giving us update on
hat Two quick questions. One is what's the Can you
explain the purpose of the games? Ousting Ario Henrie, number one,

(01:03:14):
Prime Minister Ario Andrie, and we know they released about
four thousand gang members from prisoners from prison as well,
Number one and number two.

Speaker 6 (01:03:24):
Understanding the history of.

Speaker 5 (01:03:26):
The US involvement in Haiti and stabilizing Haiti stealing five
hundred thousand dollars worth of gold in nineteen fourteen the
Marines and then ruling Haiti for nineteen years, is there
a role that the US should play in stabilizing Haiti

(01:03:47):
or should the US just.

Speaker 6 (01:03:48):
Stay out of it altogether?

Speaker 10 (01:03:50):
Sure?

Speaker 16 (01:03:51):
I think your question is two prongs right. The first
one is about the games. First and foremost, the games
that we are seeing in Haiti, they're not driven by ideology,
They're not driven by a belief system.

Speaker 10 (01:04:06):
They are driven.

Speaker 16 (01:04:07):
Primarily because of the lack of economic opportunities that exist
on the island. And secondly, they exist because they are
being financed by political elites, by some members of the
Only Guards and so on. And many of the guns
that they use to terrorize people in the country actually come.

Speaker 10 (01:04:26):
From South Florida. So when people ship cars and cargoes
to the.

Speaker 12 (01:04:30):
Republic of Haiti.

Speaker 18 (01:04:32):
They they they sneak guns into into them and because
there's not proper inspections, they end up in the hands
of of of of bad actors in Haiti then distributed
to to the gangs.

Speaker 10 (01:04:45):
So what you saw recently is.

Speaker 16 (01:04:47):
That in terms of the out of Prime Minister Algali,
is that the gangs formed a coalition and and said,
you know, let's work together, let's get rid of Prime
Minister agen Ali, and they successfully did that, something that
many people in the country, many sectors in the country,
members of Congress, have been calling for Prime Minister Aguilani

(01:05:08):
to resign and he didn't do so right, So it
took the Games to play a significant role in the
outsting of Prime Minister agi Lai. Now your second question
about the role of the United States government. One, yes,
I think it is a great idea that Kenya admission
is going into coming into the country to help address
the insecurity crisis. But Kenya is going to leave at

(01:05:30):
some point then what's going to happen.

Speaker 10 (01:05:32):
So while Kenya is in the.

Speaker 16 (01:05:33):
Country, we have to help to strengthen the security institutions
that currently exist. One, the Haitian National Police severely underfunded,
severely lack the equipment and recent technology to fight these gangs.
They need to be further strengthened too. The United States
has invoked the Leady Act, which makes it unlawful for

(01:05:55):
the use of US funding for the purpose of the
Haitian military. No states should be without a military. That's
just unacceptable, and they the military is to fight external
threats as well as internal threats. So right now, as
we speak in Haiti, as we speak today, although Haiti
has a military, it does not receive any sort of

(01:06:15):
support from the United States government. So I think the
US just support the Haitian state and strengthen its security
infrastructure so that when Kenya leaves, Haiti can fight and
fend for yourself.

Speaker 6 (01:06:27):
All right, thank you, Matt.

Speaker 7 (01:06:31):
I'm really glad Michael asked that question because that was
going to be the genesis of my question about the
United States and our responsibility if we have one in
being involved in stability. And I guess kind of the
nexus of that question, or the corollary to that question
is this, is there a potential for Haiti to have
an international law claim to say, Essentially, the United States

(01:06:52):
has passed legislation preventing support of the Haitian military. But
you know, we go around the world as the World
Police and give money to other institutions and states all
the time, right, I mean, we're funding a lot in Ukraine.
So is there any basis for an international law claim
against the United States or other nations for expressly disallowing

(01:07:13):
support to the Haitian military.

Speaker 16 (01:07:15):
Well, first and foremost, the Haitian military was initially disbanded
in nineteen eighty six due to gross human rights violations.
And as you know, the United States Congress does not
fund militaries that commit human rights violations, which some of
us will say completely hypocritical because there are other nations
that we know that have committed gross human rights violations

(01:07:38):
and remain and continue to receive funding from the United States.
But what happened is that in twenty seventeen, the Haitian
Army was recreated with new entities, with new parties, with
new individuals that have not been accused of any sort
of human rights violation. So the question is, why isn't

(01:08:00):
it that the United States is not lifting the Leady
Act so that the use of US funding could be
used for the purpose of strengthening the Haitian National Police.
But beyond the security infrastructure and he that needs to
be strengthened, we need to look at the economic conditions
of the country.

Speaker 10 (01:08:15):
Many of these challenges that we see is caused by
lack of jobs.

Speaker 16 (01:08:19):
More than sixty percent of the Haitian population is unemployed
and about eighty percent of porter prints is controlled by gangs.

Speaker 10 (01:08:28):
So what needs to happen is that in.

Speaker 16 (01:08:30):
Addition to humanitarian assistance, in addition to security assistance, the
US government must also Congress in particular mass must pass
an economic package to revitalize the country's economy and help
with the creation of jobs, in the creation of various
infrastructures such as roads and buildings and ports and so forth.

Speaker 7 (01:08:52):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
All right, Ben Johannah. We sholly appreciate it. Thanks a much.

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
Look forward to hopefully least some good news out of
Haiti coming soon.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
Thanks a lot. All right, folks, we come back.

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Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
The moodycam video of a handcuff black man in Ohio
has been released. On April eighteen, fifty three year old
Frank Tyson was involved in an accident. Police found him
in a Canton social club near the crash a struggle
of the game of the officers tried to grab Tyson,
who said repeatedly they're trying to kill me and call
the sheriff. As he was taken to the floor, The

(01:11:50):
cops restrained Tyson with one place again knee on his back,
prompting Tyson to scream that he could not breathe. Officers
told Tyson was fined and he needed to calm down.
The cops were oaking with bystanders and leafing through Tyson's
wallet before they checked on him. When an officer commanded
Tyson to stand up, he did not move. It was
then they rolled him over and realized he was not breathing.

(01:12:10):
The body cam video is over thirty minutes long. Will
be about to show you an edited version done by
a local affiliate. There are some audio drops in this version.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
So here we go.

Speaker 5 (01:12:22):
He's in the VFW.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
He ran in there right now.

Speaker 10 (01:12:26):
Yeah, there's cars right there, all right. Yeah, he didn't
like the s W right now.

Speaker 6 (01:12:31):
White Bert, you want to come with me?

Speaker 10 (01:12:46):
No, no, no.

Speaker 6 (01:13:00):
Killing.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
We're trying to kill it.

Speaker 5 (01:13:01):
That's how to kill.

Speaker 7 (01:13:02):
Ticking around kill Why I kill they got they try
to kill the killing the sad.

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Work here.

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Warby kill you.

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Yell.

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Capt gaming.

Speaker 12 (01:13:50):
It's like killings like killing.

Speaker 5 (01:13:52):
Then gets Gray, I don't get God. Then it gets pray.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
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Gail go ya.

Speaker 8 (01:14:05):
I gotta here gotch.

Speaker 12 (01:14:08):
You want that one you say when you're goods in.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
Oh yeah, okay, calm down, calm down, okay.

Speaker 6 (01:14:31):
Twenty twenty nine, stop fighting.

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
I gay right, thanky thanky, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:14:43):
Away.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
Pass your stories right there, I'll be glad of it.
S three, Okay, I gave you read.

Speaker 6 (01:14:51):
You're fine. I thought I thought he's here to get
big up to go. I've always wanted to be in
the bar by it. I don't know if this counts.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
Yeah, Matt.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
What I'm confused by is the masses I can't breathe.
The cop go, oh, you're fine, but then you don't
go back and check on them. You're joking things along
those lines.

Speaker 4 (01:15:25):
It is, it is, it is.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
It literally makes no sense to me.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
You have that many officers around and you don't actually
check on the person who's in handcuffs.

Speaker 7 (01:15:37):
Absolutely, especially in the wake of George Floyd and some
of the other cases that we've had. I mean, I
would think any self respecting police officer would be going
above and beyond, especially when somebody particularly says that they
can't breathe. I think they'd go above and beyond to
ensure that the person is uh, you know, safe, that
they're in good health and that they're not in any

(01:15:58):
kind of medical peril.

Speaker 8 (01:15:59):
So he I think that you have a big issue
with that.

Speaker 7 (01:16:02):
I will tell you, you know, the rest of this
contact I think is going to be difficult in this
case in particular because I think what they're going to
say immediately is that there was resistance and that doesn't
mean that the force that they use was justified. But
this is going to be I think a difficult case
because of the inception of the contact as between the
police officers and this gentleman. But once he's on the ground,

(01:16:24):
once he's subdued, the fact that they're not rendering medical care,
I think is going to be a problem, particularly because
we've recently seen cases where paramedics have been convicted right
of not providing medical care timely. So I'd be interested
in seeing if the criminal authorities have looked at this
case for a criminal element on that.

Speaker 8 (01:16:44):
In that regard.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
To that particular point, Michael, that again, the arrest is
one thing. The lack of care and compassion after he
is handcuffed is another.

Speaker 5 (01:16:59):
Yeah it is, And and looking at that video, yes
he was resisting arrest. Yes it took force to arrest them.
It appears he may have been intoxicated as well. But
once you arrest them, the suspect in your custody, you're

(01:17:19):
responsible for their well being, Okay, whether they're guilty or not,
you're responsible for that. And according to their article from
nbcnews dot Com, it says that Frank Tyson laid on
the floor motionless for more than five minutes before police checked,
before police checked him for a pulse, and he laid

(01:17:43):
on the floor motionless for about eight minutes before CPR
was started on him.

Speaker 6 (01:17:48):
Okay, so they're standing around, not checking for a pulse.

Speaker 3 (01:17:53):
Not.

Speaker 5 (01:17:55):
Caring for him, even if he was guilty of everything
that he's accused of.

Speaker 6 (01:18:00):
So there was a lack of care. There was a
callousness here.

Speaker 5 (01:18:03):
And then it also said that an officer appeared to
have his knee on Frank Tyson's upper chest for about
thirty seconds as well. So hopefully justice will prevail here,
but it seems like this seems like there's some gross
negligence when it comes to how the police handled this.

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
Well, you talk about justice, Let's go to Colorado where
the paramedic who injected Elijah McLain with a deadly dose
of kennemn avoids prison. He was convicted in the case
Jeremy Cooper. He had faced up to three years in
prison after being found guilty in a jury trial last
year a criminally negligent homicide. He was the one who

(01:18:49):
gave the dose of kennamine to twenty three year old
Elijah McClain. Yet the officer has been sentenced to probation.
The family is the mother said, quote eternal shame on
all of you. Uh so, you know we talk about justice, Michael,
But okay, five, a guilty verdict is one thing. This
cop he gets excuse me, this paramedic he gets off,

(01:19:12):
he gets probation. Elijah McLain is dead.

Speaker 5 (01:19:16):
Yeah, this sounds like another case of white privilege. I
think he should have gone to prison. Uh, he was guilty.
He needs to be held accountable. And also when you
hold when when when verdicts are rendered, When sentences are rendered,
oftentimes they're not just to correct behavior and punish somebody

(01:19:39):
but for behavior, but it's also a deterrent for other
people who may commit the same type of acts. Uh So,
here this is really saying that Elijah McClain's life had
no value. Okay, you know even we know it did.
But based upon the verdict that they based upon the
sentence that was rendered, apparently his life had no value.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
That you know.

Speaker 7 (01:20:08):
I'm actually going to take a different position on this,
So I don't like any sentence that looks like a
judge or a jury is going light in a circumstance
that's tragic, such as this one and heinus.

Speaker 8 (01:20:20):
However, I will.

Speaker 7 (01:20:21):
Say first probation is not a cake wall, particularly on
the type of probation he got. There are a lot
of probations here in Texas. For instance, you can get
probation on a first degree felony, and if you violate
that probation, you're looking at the full range of punishment
five to ninety nine or life.

Speaker 8 (01:20:37):
So I tell you that to say, while.

Speaker 7 (01:20:39):
People may want him to have gone to prison, probation
can be extremely problematic if somebody doesn't adhere to it
and there's still a very big anvil hanging.

Speaker 8 (01:20:48):
Over a person's head.

Speaker 7 (01:20:49):
And that's actually what I'm writing a PDR about right now,
which is asking the Quart of Criminal Appeals to overturn
a verdict on a client of mine who was convicted
before I was his lawyer and it is on probation
and was revoked, So probation can be severe if a
person is not handling it, and even if they are
handling it, there are a lot of conditions. But beyond that,

(01:21:11):
criminally negligent homicide I think is a very difficult charge
to prosecute because it is the criminal equivalent of negligence.
So I've never been a fan of that charge. I
think that's always a hard charge, and I think in
this case, because this paramedic did have statutory authority to
administer medications, I do think that that probably puts it

(01:21:31):
in a different light.

Speaker 5 (01:21:32):
I don't know who.

Speaker 7 (01:21:33):
Administered punishment, whether it was the judge or jury here,
but without knowing more of exactly the evidence against this paramedic,
I don't want to necessarily render judgment that this is
not the correct outcome.

Speaker 8 (01:21:45):
I get the optics, but unless I.

Speaker 7 (01:21:47):
Know all the evidence, I don't think I can say
that with any level of intelligence. But probation is not
always a cake walk, and this could be a circumstance
where the judge or jury whomever neeted this punishment out
thought that this is a person who didn't have anything
in their background and should get this opportunity, but it
is not one where they don't have the opportunity to
take it away from them if they don't adhere to

(01:22:08):
those conditions. So there's still a lot of risk there,
and if they don't adhere to them, then perhaps they'll
be going to prison.

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Gabrielle Troy has been missing for Stone Mountain, Georgia's in
February's twenty sixth. The fourteen year old is five feet
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two nine one one wild story out of Baltimore for

(01:24:56):
a Maryland high school athletic director has been charged with
faking and audio recording of the principle, making derogatory remarks
about students and racially derogatory remarks about students and staff.
Pikesville High School AD thirty one year old John Darien
was arrested for disrupting school activities after Baltimore County Police
said he created the falsified audio recording of Eric Eysworth

(01:25:19):
in January. The audio clip using the principal's voice went viral.
The audio recording was a rant about teacher inadequacies, low
test scores of black students, and complaints about Jewish families
in the community. Police say Darien's motive was retaliation for
an investigation of how he spent school funds.

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
This year was an absolutely wild story, Matt.

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
I remember when it came out, and now they're saying, dude,
use AI to get back at the principal.

Speaker 8 (01:25:46):
This terrifies me. This terrifies me for all of us,
for my clients. I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:25:52):
I think we're gonna get to a point pretty soon
in society. And I think I've said it on the
show before where one of the things that concerns me
about AI is us as a society and our ability
to discern the truth from fiction. And you know, there's
a popular app I think it's called Parrot where you
can put in what you want, you know, the presidential
candidates to say, and it spits out a video that

(01:26:13):
looks like it's you know, Joe Biden or Donald Trump
with what sounds like their voices saying whatever you've put in.
I don't know how we are going to discern from
what's real, between what's real and what isn't without one,
you know, brilliant people putting together software to be able
to figure that out, I guess, or mechanisms to determine that.
But from a prosecution standpoint, and even from just pure

(01:26:37):
accusation standpoint, this is scary because this is the kind
of thing where it passes as real so easily that
you don't know, and you know, especially in a case
like this, you can build outrage, you can disparage a person,
you can kill their whole reputation on something that isn't
isn't real. So I see this being one of the
concerns that I have about AI, one of the concerns

(01:26:57):
we've talked about on here, even despite all of its
beneficial capabilities.

Speaker 5 (01:27:04):
Michael, yeah, rolland you know, this is a crazy story,
and this is one of the concerns. I have real
concerns about artificial intelligence, just like Matt does, because you
can one when it comes to elections, presidential elections especially,

(01:27:28):
but two, you can use it in retaliation against people,
to invoke anger and invoke people to take actions to
take manage into their own hands, and then after they've
committed acts of violence, after possibly they have killed somebody,
then they find out, oh it was a hoax, Oh
it was a fake. So you know, one, it's going

(01:27:51):
to have to be strong legislation and regulation of artificial intelligence.
Here we have a situation where the technology is more
advanced than the laws that regulate the technology is. Secondly,
you know, when you do something like this, it makes

(01:28:12):
people for the next case, where where it may be
something legitimate, it may cause people to be reluctant or
hesitant to support that person who claims to be the victim,
even if they are when you misuse a situation like
this to try to cover up something that you allegedly did.

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
Absolutely unbelievable and trust we're gonna see more stories like
this with AI becoming much more prevalent. Let's go Texas
where black Texas mayor running for reelection received the package
with a noose and a threatening note. The Arcola Police
depostion this on social media, asking for help finding out
who sent this to Mayor Fred Burton. The note demanded

(01:28:57):
that Burton dropped out of his twenty twenty four camp.
The threat comes amid a string of controversies during the
mayor's campaign. Folks there, well you know, look, somebody's sending
you a news Matt. They pretty much are telling you
exactly how they feel.

Speaker 7 (01:29:10):
Yeah, they are from Scranton, Pennsylvania. So Michael Scott and
his progeny are, you know, calling out this mayor. I
didn't understand this at all. I read the article that
was sent and it looks like obviously this mayor has
been a little in battled. Let me say first, there's
no justification for this. It's not acceptable. They absolutely need
to prosecute if they found who sent it. But what's

(01:29:32):
very strange is if you look at the address on
that package, it's from Pennsylvania. So I'm really interested in
seeing if they're able to make a connection as to
why somebody would be sending something across the country like that.
But I guess this mayor has had some at least
accusations of improper use of taxpayer money to investigate another
city council person. And it's sad that in twenty twenty four,

(01:29:53):
you know, we still have to deal with this as
black people, that is still this kind of racial vitriol.
But I do know that the Postal Service has investigators
who work for specifically this purpose, so hopefully they're able
to track that in the hold accountable whomever sent this
to him.

Speaker 2 (01:30:09):
Yeah, and to that point, you send this in the mail,
that's a federal crime, Michael.

Speaker 5 (01:30:15):
Yeah, it's a federal crime. We want to know who
sent it. Get to the bottom of this. I don't
want to jump to conclusions also because it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:28):
Could be.

Speaker 6 (01:30:29):
A legitimate racial incident. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:30:32):
But at the same time, you know, I remember back
when after Dylan Roth killed nine African Americans in South
Carolina and there was a rash of black church fires
after that, and people associated the black church fires with
the killing. But when you do the research on those
church fires, and I reported this extensively on my radio

(01:30:56):
show and when I was on an apartment radio network,
some of those church fires were uh maybe two or
three of them were done by black men. Okay, So
I don't have all the details here. We want the
full investigations. Could be a white supremist, don't know, so
you know, we need to get the full details here.
But this is crazy regardless of what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
Indeed, it is all right, folks, gents, that is it.
I got to get out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:31:27):
I got to participate NAPCO of a group of black
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participating in the moderated conversation with DA Fannie Willis and
so looking forward conversation. Let me think, Matt, let me think, Michael.
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