October 25, 2022 • 34 mins
Richard Jefferson is known for a lot of things. A 17-year NBA Career with teams like The Nets, The Golden State Warriors, and The Cleveland Cavaliers, a spot on the US Olympic Team, and an NBA Championship with LeBron James. But he’s now known for his controversial takes and opinions that he gives daily on ESPN to the cheers and jeers of social media. In this episode, the NBA's biggest talker has to keep up with the hot takes from 15-year-old Sloane. Find out why she said he “acts like a teenage girl,” how Micheal Jordan provided him with one of his “welcome to NBA” moments and why he thinks Zion is the most overrated player in the NBA today on this episode of “Sloane Knows.”
2:03 His spiritual connection to Taj Gibson and Alex Caruso.
4:07 Sloane just turned 15.
5:08 What Richard was like at 15.
8:20 Growing up a Lakers fan.
11:05 The Bronze Metal
11:52 His “welcome to the league moment”
13:26 Playing with Klay Thomas when he was a rookie.
19:20 Takes Hotter Than Kelly Oubre Jr.
27:01 Mugsy or Manute
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, I'm Sloan. I just turned fifteen years old and
I love the MBA. Today, on Sloan Nose, we have
an MBA champion on Olympi and someone who is definitely
not afraid to speak his mind. Let's give a warm
Sloan nose. Welcome to Richard Jefferson. Hi, Richard, I'm outstanding.
(00:23):
It's great to see.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Great to be here. It's great to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
So happy to be here with you. I couldn't be
more thrilled.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I would expect that.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Yeah, this may make you not as thrilled.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Okay, oh, here we go.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah, So how do you feel that your whole stint
as a New Jersey net I was just not alive
for well?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yeah, you know what's weird. It's now that I broadcast
games for them. I have grown men coming up to
me with their kids your age and saying, look at
a picture of me when I was twelve. The dads
are like, look at me when I was twelve with
you in a jersey. And I look over and they're
with their kid, and that kid has a beard. I'm
like used to this now. I'm starting to grown a
(01:01):
little bit more accustomed to.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
It because my dad and I were talking about you
last night, and it's like funny because like I know
you as like, you know, like a podcaster and a
teak talker and like obviously an NBA player, but like
more towards the later years, like on the cows and stuff.
And then he's telling me about like all these glory
stories with you and Vince, and I'm like what, Like,
it's just it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
It causes it causes actually causes some Internet like beef
because you get people in the comments they're like, you sucked.
I saw you play. You only average four points when
you played for the Cavs. And then there's other people
like listen, you know you idiots he used to Yeah,
So it's it's I like it that that just even
my existence causes people.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
To argue all NBA rookie second team right here.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
See I got one Rookie of the year.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Let's go so lucky. I mean I have zero, So
that's impressive. That's wow.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I was. I was very very happy about that.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Congrats. That's a big accomplishment than you. Also, I I've
always been curious about this. Do you have like more
of like maybe a spiritual connection to let's say ToJ
Gibson or Alex Caruso just because you share that NBA
baldness together, you.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Know, yeah, you know what. I feel like there is
a bald brotherhood, but ultimately like there's like there's like
a few different bald brotherhoods right there. There's like the
bald Brotherhood of like, hey, we were bald early and
this is just our book. And then there's the other
one that we're just like, come over, come over to
Bron Bron, you know, over there, all of you guys,
(02:33):
come join us on the bald brotherhood. And they all
eventually will and have and and and that's part of
the fun.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Todg Gibson is definitely part of that. Like I feel
like they're like bald, look with the goggles. When I
see that, I was like, the.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Best thing that I like about is like people just
see a light skin brother and they're like that is
that Todd Gibson Or so I'll be walking to the
airport and they'll be like dodge TODJ. And I'm like
it's so cool because I can like actually ignore you
because you're just calling to the wrong nav. You're not
saying my name in the airport.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
The other day, I saw Lou do Wor and like
it was it was just like it was weird, like
an la X. I didn't think I was gonna see
like an OKAC player, right, but if like I saw
a Laker, like it would click a little bit. And
I walked up to him, and I just think that like,
out of all the people in the airport, he just
didn't expect me to be the one to like walk
up to him. And I was like, hey, Lou, and
he like looked at me and he was like and
(03:20):
I was like yeah, yeah, and he was just like
looking around. It was it was funny references Lou Gwent's
store full name.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Did you ask in your podcast?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
No, I should. I actually my friend after was like
you should walk back, and I was like it was
already or really weird, and it was already. Yeah. He
also well no, he was really nice, but he like
I said to him, you should join the Warriors for
no reason because like really love him, but like he
probably shouldn't join the Warriors. Yeah, And I don't know
why it just came out of my mouth.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Is that your favorite team?
Speaker 1 (03:52):
It is my favorite team?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, that's right. Well, given like your existence on this
planet over that sheer time, the warriors have been Like.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Maybe if I was born in two thousand and one
when you were drafted, I would have been like a
New Jersey Nets fan.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
But yeah, even then you would have been so you
had been like seven or eight.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I also like, why would I be in thats fan? Like,
I'm just gonna be so honest.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
That's fair. Yeah, that's fair. I have no allegiance. Yeah,
I get it.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
We're talking a lot about h it seems to be
an oncoming theme. Yes, I just turned fifteen, so this
is my first podcast episode where I am fifty.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Yeah, everybody we get like, we get some like sounds
like yeah it's needed.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
If you want to get me a gift like that
would be good. No, I still think you should think
that's fair. Yeah, okay, we'll think maybe for your birthday,
I'll donate you some of this, some hair, lots of.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Lots of love.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Maybe you can trade. I can get like a nice
podca I.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Asked for, Like I looked into the locks of love
and then I found out that they have much better
causes than their male pattern bonded.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
So probably other people that need to kid use it
a little bit more, so I know who you are now, okay.
And I also, because I did my research, knew who
you were back then. But I don't want to know that.
I want to know who you were when you were fifteen.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Me at fifteen, there's like some yeah, there's some therapy
in there, there's some some honesty. Me at fifteen, I
was just trying to figure it out. See, it's weird
like everybody you know you see on TikTok where everyone's
like the millennials at ninety five. Like in ninety five,
I was fifteen years old. There were no cell phones,
there were no communications. Your parents would kick you out
(05:30):
of the house. I was just a loudmouthed kid. That
just I'm being vulnerable here. I'm opening up to you
in this time track. No, No, it's fine, we're exactly No.
I was just a fun kid. I was very similar
to you. So I wanted to talk to everybody. I
wanted to know everything. I would immerse myself in basketball.
(05:52):
I would watch videotapes and basketball games and go to
the park for eight hours. It's really cool. And I'll
compliment you for you to find something that you're actually
truly interested in. And then you put the work towards it.
You know, people ask me all the time, hey, do
you want your kids to play basketball? Like, I don't
care if my kids are good at basketball, good at soccer,
if they want to play sports. The only thing that
matters to me is if that's what they want to do,
(06:14):
they approach it and push it passionately.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I never knew you to be so inspiration.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
You know what. Every once in a while I like
to keep people guessing the eight seconds later I'll say
something extremely sarcastic and rude.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Or maybe even really inappropriate, sitting here with a child,
after you've given me.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Like future on my best behavior.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yes, yes, okay? So were you this tall at fifteen?
Was the height situation?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
It was the exact same height I am right now
at fifteen years I was probably about sixty pounds less.
But when I was so I started my freshman year,
I was probably like six one. Ended my freshman year
at like six four.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
So were you fifteen as a sophomore?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah? I sold my birthday. My birthdays in June, so
I turned was I was? I didn't turn twenty first
birthday of summer. Shout out birthday kids, But my birth
I didn't turn fifteen until basically my son you and
Messy have.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
A birthday in the same week. Who knew two of
the greatest of all time?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Honestly, honestly, God was just like, you know what, We'll
just sprinkle over there. You know, it's fine, But that
was really that was really like I grew a bunch
over like a one year span, and then all of
a sudden I showed back up at like six foot
five in Glendale, Arizona, and my high school coach was like, hey, Richard,
you should really start taking this basketball stuff more serious. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
And were you a Sun's fan or were you a
Lakers fan or a Clippers fan?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
What was Lakers? I would say I was a Lakers fan.
I grew up here. Wow as an La. Are you
born and raised La?
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah? But I say I'm from San Francisco just because
I'm not a Bandwagon fan. But then people think I am,
so I'm like, oh, like my dad's from San Francisco,
but he's not. He's from New York. I just want
to just like it's okay.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I've had those lies. Yeah, Like people look, I wear
my watch on my right hand forever, and people are like,
why are you doing you right? I was like, oh,
and I make up a lie just because that's just
what I want to do. Aspected that being said as
a person born here in La I moved when I
was younger. The fact that you like the Golden State
Warriors and you were born and raised La girl, I
respect it be different.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
So yeah, yeah, no, and you weren't different? Was you know?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
It was? I liked the Lakers and then I meant
to Arizona. The Phoenix Suns were really really good because
that's when they had like Charles Barkley, Yeah, Kevin Johnson.
They had some really good players. So I like them,
but I'm a Lakers fan.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Do you have one of those like Suns jerseys where
it was like fires.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
That purple one? Yeah. I was poor kid growing up,
so I didn't have any jerseys. Don't feel bad. Don't
feel bad. It's my cross the bear. Don't make a comment.
Yeah I didn't. You know what, Those are the coolest jerseys,
and I think they're doing those retro jerseys. They're they're
doing those. I am so impressed with your knowledge of
like random NBA stuff. Yeah, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
It's nice that you say you're impressed. Most people would
just call it sad.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
No. No.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Like the other day, I asked my dad if I
could get an addenda to Coompbo Greek Jersey and he
was like sure, so cool, and I was like, no,
I wanted Alex at there at a Combo Greece Jersey.
And he was like oh and I was like yeah,
And it was just awkward because it was like it was.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Just Sae's the one yet yes I want.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Alex and costofs like forget yan because.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
You know why no one else will have it?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Oh you you no, Yes, that's the reason. I also okay,
I was like doing a deep dive for a Jonathan
Mingo Republic of Congo Jersey and they don't make those.
I was really upset.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah they don't. It was really really that's the fact
that you were upset is pretty It was you could
you know what, there's a guy jersey champs, Jersey champs.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I'm gonna listen, you wear this like.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
They have the most obscure jerseys, hockey jersey, pastball jerseys,
all sorts of stuff. Check it out.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yeah, I'm gonna cop that. When you were fifteen, I
know you didn't play as much au as other people.
But do you play against any future NBA players.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
At fifty at that point time, I think the only
one that I probably played with locally was probably Mike
Bibbie and he was a few years older than me.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
But that's probably a cool thing.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, Sacramento Kings like Bibby Jersey, But no that he
was the only one where I grew up. And that's
why basketball for me was such a random thing. When
I started playing basketball at ten, eleven, thirteen, fourteen, there
was I wasn't from LA or Chicago where they were like, hey,
that guy made it or that guy was basically like,
you want to play basketball? We hear people can go
to the NBA. Yeah, I didn't really play against any
(10:34):
real like future NBA guy, So I probably got to
like sixteen or seventeen.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
And who is that?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
All of them? Really at that point in time, I
all just well, it was like you all started competing.
It doesn't matter if it was Matt Barnes or Carlos
Boozer or you know, Shane Jay Williams all us please.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Okay, so his sons are like the twins or like
the top players in the class of twenty are they really? Yeah,
and I would like love if you could set me
up with one of them.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
You don't care which one, you just want one of them.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I can't say if I have a preference that would be.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
So you're so smart. Yeah, yeah, it's like, yeah, I
like it.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
So if a good word.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
I've known Carlos since.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
H he's a fellow bald NBA brother.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yes, he was very early. Also, he was one of
the infamous Beijing. I never did the Beijing.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Carlos and you want to bronze medal together?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah, we talk about that bronze medal all oftentimes sad,
very sad. But you know what, if it wasn't for us,
they would never be.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
But in the Jewish Junior Olympics, I wont a silver
medal for girls soccer, so technically.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
But I had mine dipping gold. So mine's gold plated.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Oh well, that's cheating.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
So it's not technically cheating. It's just gold plated. It's
still bronze at its core. Just it's gold.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
In my heart, I never knew you were a cheater
like that. Interesting, I'm going to move on to you
now so great or just in your NBA crew?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Sure whatever?
Speaker 1 (11:55):
That fifteen year old.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
We don't care about him.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
That he was awesome though, sort of like, Okay, what
was your welcome to the league moment?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Oh? I had so many of them, I will say, so,
do you remember Latrell's pree Well, I don't know why
I'm asking fifteen year old this, but Latrell's Spreewell previously
had been suspended a couple of years back for choking
his coach. Oh, so he got suspended for choking his coach,
And I will never forget this. My first year, I'm
putting on a jersey. We're a preseason game and I'm
sitting here and we're playing against the Knicks, and my
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coach is like, Richard, get in. You got Carrie walking
into the game for the first moment. It's a preseason game.
And no, no, no, we were in Connecticut because it
was a preseason game Nets versus next preseason game. My
first time putting on the jersey, first time going in
the game, I'm coming off the bench to coach. He's like,
go get Carrie kittles cool and I was like, who
that got. He's like, you got Latrell'spreewell. And the first
(12:49):
thing that popped in my head. I was like, the
guy that choked his coach like that to me was
wholly like, hoh, we're really I'm sorry for guessing, we're
really doing that. So that was probably my first welcome
to the NBA moment. And then my second one was
the moment that I got to play against Michael Jordan,
you know, because Michael Jordan came back those were the
Wizard years and you're like, yep, I'm playing against mj
(13:12):
This shit is real. I don't care if he's one
hundred or if he's fifty or if he's twelve. I'm
playing against Michael Jordan. This shit is strange.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
So that was it for me, so we know, welcome
to the league moment. I have a question for you.
So I've known come up with something called like a
what the hell is my life come to? Moment? And
like I was wondering, do you think when you like
had that poster on Clay I think in those in
the in the Christmas Jursey, Yes, yes, do you think
that that was what the hell has happened to me? Moment?
Because like that was later in your career and like
(13:39):
that was his prime and then all of a sudden,
He's like, shoot, Richard Jefferson, just like put me on
a poster like this is so awkward.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
And the best part about is that I had Clay.
I played with Clay when he was a rookie in
Golden State. I'm a former Warrior. That's I know, Like, listen,
she is good. People like just like this is impressive
off the top. Yeah, those are the moments that like
in the NBA, especially happened later in my career, Like
I went to two finals early, didn't think I was
ever going to go again. I just loved the game
(14:06):
of basketball, wanted to keep playing and competing. Got very,
very fortunate to be in a process, and all of
a sudden, fifteen years later, I'm back in the NBA
Finals and it's like, what does my life become? How
am I still here? And so to dunk on Clay.
The best part about dunking on Clay is that we
ended up going to the scorer's table like a little
bit later again, and he just looked at me and
was just like, anybody but you, anybody but you, And.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I was like the hell out that moment, you know what.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
That actually makes me feel better that you wished it
wasn't me. That made me feel better. I get that.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
So in twenty twelve to twenty thirteen, when you were
a Warrior, I believe that that was the first year
that Steph, dray and Clay played together. Could you see
the dynasty coming or it wasn't clear?
Speaker 2 (14:48):
No, it was not so the first I think that
was the first year. So I think that was the
lockout year.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Maybe Tramon was drafted in twenty eleven. I think that
must have been the first.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Draymond. No, so Draymond was drafted in twenty eleven. So
I showed up at twenty ten after the lockout. That
was Clay's rookie year. Steph was hurt when I got there.
The next year is when they drafted Harrison. They drafted
uh and Raymond. So then that was the first year
I saw a special I didn't know what it was.
He broke the record that year, the first time he
broke the NBA three point record, and it was like
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he did it with such ease, and it was like
he hadn't even pushed himself to the wall. But that
was the first year Steph was becoming Steph. Thirteen or
twelve twelve, because that was the year they beat they
beat They beat Denver in the first round, lost to
the first Then they lost to the Clippers. Next year,
sood first year they didn't make the Pope postseason. Next
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year they won the first round, lost in the second round.
Next year they lost the Clippers. They fired Mark Jackson
that summer they brought in Steve. Then they won championship, final, championship.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
We know the rest.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I just like that, Yeah, she's not the only one
that knows.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Bunch of stuff, y'all, okay, but like that's Commons that's
coming in.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
That's like not everyone, no, but thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
You're so inclusive. And do you think that, like Steph
is the best shot of all time because of you,
your leadership, one thousand to the go ahead, Like come on,
why would it be del? Like why would it be Del?
It would be you?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Honestly, when I look at the encouragement that I've given
him over the years, and like I don't want credit.
I think we have an unspoken thing when it's a
very unspoken thing when we see each other that like Richard,
like I would not be the person I am without
your leadership in your.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Tea, I just thought of something and like, you has
to tell me this is real. So you know, Steph
broke the record in Madison Square Garden, in the Mecca
where you're most hated. Do you think that he was
doing that as like a shout out to you, being like,
this is for you, Richard, Like I couldn't because he
could have broken it before he was in a slump.
But maybe it was on purpose to wait for the
game against the Knicks to be like this is for
you Richard.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Well, you know what what I like to say is that,
like I like to say that I encouraged him in
that moment and I was just like, hey, listen, I
know of all this stuff going on, you go out
there and you do this for yourself. I gave him
one of those like Rocky speeches. Rocky was a movie
that came out in the eighties and nineties.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I'm not sure if you're a familiar, because Michael B.
Jordan was in like the New Rocky and so like,
Michael B. Jordan come on, so like that's so then
I so then I had to be like, oh, why.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Rocky, who is this guy?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
And then I was like, oh, yeah, he knows Michael B.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Jordan. So that's fair. Okay, so you do no Rocky,
but that's what I was saying. I gave him kind
of a Rocky go get him speed, and he was like, Richard,
I'm gonna do this for you. That's what he said.
So sweet. I know he's adorable. You know, he probably
said it to nine other people. He was probably visiting hospitals.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
And saying it to all the kids.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
So it was just like he was just I think.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
It's carrying Fosse puppies.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yes, it was amazing, Like it was just the things
that he does. It's some perfect guy, perfect.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Guy of him. So you were drafted thirteenth overall. Now
people say thirteenth is an not unlucky number.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
But it's my lucky number, as it should be.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Do you think that being drafted thirteenth overall made your
career lucky or.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Unlucky, very lucky? I could not. When you say, like,
what the hell has my life become? Or that like
what is my life woman? Yes, it was all up
to thirteen thirteen. I got drafted in the right place
to play with the perfect players, to play on the
perfect team. Everything was like I could not have dreamed.
There was not a team a situation I would have
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rather gone to than one that I went to. So
I think it was the luckiest number that I've ever had.
On top of the fact, when you look at like thirteen,
look we get it. Number one picks number five. Thirteen
is one of the most random numbers you have. Donovan Mitchell,
Kobe Bryant, you know, the late great you know so
so Tyler Hero another one. You know, Tyler Hero.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
It's just funny because you're like Kobe Bryant, Tyler Hero.
I love Tyler.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
There's a fraternity. We were the middle of the path,
we were in the like, you know, we're in the
middle of the past, and we found our way out.
So it was like there's a there's a little bit
of a brother out there.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
You and Kobe, Kobe, you guys, Kobe, we're so similar.
That's a trio.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Stephen A. Smith, I'm really you. I'm actually gonna change that.
Cut that out. Richard Jefferson is known for some crazy
to m M. They're hot, they're hot. But oh, Richard,
here we go. Have you ever seen a take hotter
than Kelly? You'r dge and you know you haven't. No,
you haven't. I mean those green eyes, those tattoos, that
(19:30):
bleef blond hair. No takes are that hot. But we're
gonna go out there with some takes that are going
to be so hot. It's gonna be like Kelly Ridge.
I know it's tough.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
It is.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
It is tough, but I think we can do it.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I believe.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I believe you, thank you, and I and I believe
in you, and I believe in Kelly. And I know
a lot about Kelly Man that that's a gorgeous guy.
That is a gorgeous guy. I love him. I just
love that guy. Okay, beautiful. I just when I think
about him, it's just like be.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I don't want to talk about Kelly. I get I
could take it.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
I'm imagining him in that show.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Okay, one day you'll interview him. It's going to be great.
I want to watch that. I want to see that.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
No, but I don't think I'm gonna be able to focus.
It's gonna be so hard. I'm just gonna be like
staring at his eye.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
But that's the Yeah, that's why I want to laugh
about Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Yeah, Okay, Okay, let's go which NBA player is the
best dressed.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Currently currently best dressed. That's a tough one because these
bad boys are bringing out all the stops. I don't
I don't know who I like, and I'm supposed to
do quick fire and I'm sitting out going down the
down the list of guys best dressed. Let's go with
Kelly Obray.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yeah, Kelly, Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
You know, there's there's so many guys I like Poppy.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Two words Poppy?
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Is that is that a thing? That's that's his nickname? Okay,
Tsunami Poppy, Okay, just dripping beautiful dress. Okay, I got.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Which NBA player currently has the best shoe game? So
I like to say this every time. But if you
don't say p J. Tucker, I just think you're just
trying to be different.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
It's just weird. Like, yeah, I was going to throw
him in the best dress because I was going to
add his shoe game Justice Clean. But yeah, his shoe
game is like, that's the that's the same.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
He's not Poppy. He's not listen, no one is no
one is not even Champagne Poppy.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Don't tell him that. Don't tell him that. He'll start
singing Drake. Sorry.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, not as beautiful but close close, But no one,
No one's like this to not me. Okay, who is
the funniest NBA player? I knew this one was going
to get you going because I know what you want to.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Say, like people that I had played against, or just
just go current current. Okay, listen, I'm saying that.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Some people I still say against I was alive.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Tim Duncan is one of the funniest players and teammates
I've ever had. Currently currently, I'm gonna say this, there's
two Klay Thompson and Anthony Edwards. Anthony Edwards, he just
some of his interviews are is so funny. But Clay Thompson.
No one has a better time than Clay. No one
has a better time than Clay. He's on his boat,
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he's got his dog. You never know what he's gonna say.
He just takes his boat out. But Clay, to me
is when I say funniest, He's just one of those
guys that like is super funny but doesn't know why
he's funny.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
He's just flew off on the boat like that was like, yeah,
that was like life being funny to him. I don't
really think he was the one Anthony Edwards is like
good at being funny, good at being funny, Like it
seems like he's been like I feel.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Like he named his dog like Junior, right like Anthony
Edwards Junior. He already named his dog that, and you're
just like good for you, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
So good and or like when he did his top
five players of all time and he like was like myself.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Like that he should he should believe that. But no
one has more fun than Clay, and Clay has fun
good for him?
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Which NBA player currently is the most overrated?
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Most overrated?
Speaker 1 (22:55):
The nice thing about you is I know you're gonna answer.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Answer most over aid player. That's a good one. I'm
gonna say this Zion Williamson. And I'm not gonna like
go at Zion from that standpoint, but I want Zion
to earn the greatness that he is entitled to. So
he's got all the attention, all the love, and it's like,
(23:20):
my thing is this, when the facts change, so will
my opinions. So that means he could go on and
they will change one hundred percent believe in him. But
right now, the attention that he gets, the love that
he gets, and he's been injured unfortunately in some other stuff.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Well, he doesn't get a lot of love.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
He actually right, So this is not hate. This is
more of saying like, hey, hey, all the dunks, all
that stuff is great when we are in the business
of getting paid to win and perform. If you're not
winning and performing, then then criticism is going to come.
So I believe he will improve. But right now I
think he would be the most overrated.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
I agree. I think that that's understandable. Let's look at us,
let's go I mean, if he wants to go out
there and be as good as he has the potential
to be, he has to go out there. He needs
to really perform like we know he can. He's the
youngest starting All Star ever, but he needs to really
be that bad dude.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Sorry, yeah, give me sixty five games. Give me sixty
five games this year. Take your team to the postseason.
I will shut my mouth, salute you, and say you
deserve on the All NBA team currently right now I
need more from you, og, Yeah, thank you for that.
This is my pleasure.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Listen, listen. Yeah, I'm sure, I mean, I'm sure he's
like sitting comfortably in the mansion right now. But like
if he'll he'll he'll be fine no matter what.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Most underrated, most underrated, ooh, this is a good one.
I think. I think Chris Middleton. I'll say Chris Middleton.
And the reason why I say Chris Middleton is because
we know he's a champion, we know he's an All Star.
But I think you greatly underestimate his importance to a
championship team. Last year, if they would have had him,
I think they would have repeated his champions in my opinion, Yes,
(25:00):
the Golden State Warriors. It would have been a good one.
It would have been a good battle. Would But I
think Chris Middleton is so important to the success of
Yannis because Jannis might be shack. Chris Middleton kind of
fills in the gaps, very similar to how Kobe would.
And I think like he's just one of those guys
that if he would have been healthy and their team
is healthy, he is so they like they took him
(25:21):
to seven, They took the Boston Celtics to seven without him, Yeah,
and it's just like if he would have been there,
they would have won. They Yeah, they would have won
in five or six.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Feel he's properly rated, though, see because he's been an
alser maybe like four or few or four times many
times where you're sort of like, huh, how did he
get there?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I think the underrated part is I don't think people
understand why, why and how good he is. It's like, oh,
he's one of the top thirty players in the part.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
You don't know, but he's like he's one of the
top thirty players in the league. But like his importance
level is probably closer to top ten.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah, oh top ten.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
What importance? And that means that like if Chris Middle
and Giannis and those guys are healthy, then he'll then
you start to see, like he closes the games, he
makes the late game plays, he does all of that stuff.
And Giannis is just that monster that does everything else.
He is a monster. He's so good.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Which NBA player is the best singer?
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Ooh? Any of these guys get any talent? I don't know.
They're all rapping now. Everybody's got there, everybody's got their own.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Like Victor Oladipo's actually no, he was on the mass
singer and he like almost won, Like he's actually really
good singer. I can see that he is real talent
I can see.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I don't I don't get that far right with some
of the guys's extracurriculars. But there are no because it's
like there's four hundred and fifty players, there's going to
be one hundred percent of guy that can play instruments,
play music, that can play other sports play. I can
see Oladipo being a great singer. Yeah, I got no
issue with that. It's him. He's the best singer, best singer.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Yeah, Victor, you you got so proud of him. Now
we're going on to another segment called Muggsy or Minute.
So we know Muggsy Bogues you're player ever insulting, but yes.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
You're young, you're still growing.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
I know. I was just giving you a little I
was just trying to I was just trying to like
help you.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yeah, okay, and then New Bowl tallest NBA player of
all time on the same team.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yes, Wizards, Bullets, bullets. You know, I don't want to bullets.
You know it's not going to bring you know, I
was going to say Indians, I was gonna say Guardians.
You know, see.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Getting controversy controversial.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
I'm just saying, like I just was saying the current
team name versus that's not like.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Is bullets really like that controversy?
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Well, when they had the highest rate and crime rate, it.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Was kind of like they're like, maybe we should change.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Like it's kind of awkward bullets. Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
You could also get another way with like presidents being
assassinated with there's.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
A lot we don't need bullets, you know, as Guilbert.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
But like this is getting awkward too. Wow, I need
to get out of this. Okay, now, let's just go
go go fast. We're a talk.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I don't care how long this thing takes. I'll stay
here all day.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Let's go MJ or Kobe, last shot j Lebron James
on the Calves or Lebron James on the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Oh, Calves, second stint, Calves.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
I feel like you're giving you credit.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Second stint, Calves. Okay, I'll do this. First stint Miami.
He was the most physically.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
It wasn't the question.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Okay, never.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Lakers or Clippers.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Oh, this is the Lakers town.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I don't know this season.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
That was the answer. Final answer, Lakers.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Playing basketball or reffing basket.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Oh my god, playing basketball will never read I'm a terrible.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
You really are rams? Are Cardinals?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Oh what? Ramsay? Because you for you?
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Why because when you were born in LA, they weren't
they were in Saint Louis.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Okay, this is why. Because when I moved to Arizona,
the Cardinals were trashed for like a decade, and I
was like, I hate them. So then I always said,
the first team that moves back to LA will be
my team. That's gonna be my football team. Because I
didn't like the Cardinals, and then I just didn't have
a team. I'd support it.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Now you could like, but now I know, screw the Cardinals.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
I love the Rams. That is my team. I went
to the Super Bowl, went to the Let's Go Together.
That's cute. Yeah, so awesome, Great, it's so much fun.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Do you sometimes remind me of a teenage girl?
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Me? Yeah, I have a lot of that vibe. That's
why all the teenage boys like to follow me.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
But also your like comedy is like a teenage boy.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Instagram or TikTok TikTok easy easy.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
That's also you.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Only post tiktoks on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
That's the only thing I post. I used to try
and post Instagram. But I'm not gonna like that's not
for me.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
It's all about TikTok Steph or Magic Magic And that's.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
No disrespect Steph. That's fine. You could be mad. People
were trying to say, oh.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
After all this, come on, people say this fourth ring
though I don't even want to.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
I love Steph, Like I said, I don't think that
there is a better because I love this game so much,
like I like, I love it like to my core,
and so I love people that represent the game the
right way, and there is not a better representative on
this planet than Steph. And I stand that with Lebron.
I think Steph has done so much for this game.
I think Bron all these guys, but Steph. Yes, he's
(30:25):
that dude. Magic Johnson though, like we forget that this
league almost was like about to like fold and not
even exist, and Magic was one of those guys that
has changed it. Yes, but so did Magic Johnson. So
did Magic Johnson, So Didareem adul Jabbar so like, and
so did Shaquille O'Neil. So obviously from from a standpoint,
but this is a quick history lesson. Everyone says that
(30:46):
Steph changes the game. That is true, he did change
the game, but that implies that he's the only person
to ever change the game over the course of basketball history. Shack.
They had to literally change the equipment for Shack. He
was that physical, that strong, Magic Johnson. There had never
been a six to nine point guard ever done anything
that really saved the game. Him and Larry Bird known
as saving the game. Kareem adul Jabbar. They wouldn't allow
him to dunk the basketball because it was too easy.
(31:09):
That's why he created the skyhook. Because they outlawed dunking.
They made a rule that said you couldn't dunk. That's
the definition of changing the game. So when people talk
about Steph changing the game, there's a history of players
being so impactful and Steph belongs to I'm such a nerd,
such a nerd. That's why I like that you were
a nerd.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
I was like, she's I am sort of as.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
You're such a nerd. That's why I can spot, but
I like cover it up.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
I feel like you just like are proud of all at.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
This point in time. It's like I'm forty two there,
I have no other skills. I'm like, yeah, I'm a
basketball nerd. Yeah, I love it. It's whatever. It's not
just a little bit it is. It's not even a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
It's a lot of It's a lot of it. I
don't know if you're like a soccer fan here, Okay,
but Rinaldo or Messy.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Oh, I'm gonna say Ronaldo really why, I don't know.
I like I look, I know Messi's a stud and
a little guy. But I like the athleticism because to
be big and strong and skilled impressive. But yeah, you know,
I don't want to know. But Ronald, I like, Christiano's
(32:12):
story is really really cool and he has He's that dude?
Is that dude?
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Okay, we ended it on this.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
There we go. I'm nervous. I feel like this would
be a drum roll? Can you guys dr drum roll
on post? All right? Doris Burke or me Doris? And
that's not even a question. But Doris is amazing and
you should get Doris to sit right here. Doris is
the godmother of basketball. Like, think about that godmother of basketball.
She'll you call her for advice, She'll give you advice
(32:43):
and she'll shoot you straight. She'll give you some love,
she'll give you some some hugs. She'll give you some
shut the hell ups. She'll She is one of the
most amazing people that I've ever met in this industry
by far, and you should get to know her.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
And I'm also one of the most amazing people.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Yeah, that's why I said you should get to know
where to you like amazing you clearly, Doris Burke. You
should get her in this seat, Doris Dori.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Someone's sitting the seat the two best it's number one
and number two.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
What's a baby goat called?
Speaker 1 (33:15):
I think a baby goat?
Speaker 2 (33:17):
I don't know. There's like, what is the what is
the what is a baby horse called?
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Opponent?
Speaker 2 (33:21):
No?
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Wait, no, no, that's a long word. No ponies, just
a small horse. I don't know what it's.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Called, but there is. But there is like half No,
that's a cow woman.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
I've ever known a woman before. That's it feel so big?
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Were you're fifteen? You're fifteen? Yeah? Wow? Cool?
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Okay, great, all right, yeah, okay, good yeah, bye bye.
Thank you so much for listening to this episode of
Sloan Notes with me and Richard Jefferson, the NBA player
with the worst tattoo ever. If you want to see
more videos of Richard and I make sure to follow
Sloan notes on TikTok and Instagram. Blown has me, by
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the way, M
Hi, I'm Sloan. I just turned fifteen years old and
I love the MBA. Today, on Sloan Nose, we have
an MBA champion on Olympi and someone who is definitely
not afraid to speak his mind. Let's give a warm
Sloan nose. Welcome to Richard Jefferson. Hi, Richard, I'm outstanding.
(00:23):
It's great to see.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Great to be here. It's great to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
So happy to be here with you. I couldn't be
more thrilled.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I would expect that.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Yeah, this may make you not as thrilled.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Okay, oh, here we go.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah, So how do you feel that your whole stint
as a New Jersey net I was just not alive
for well?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yeah, you know what's weird. It's now that I broadcast
games for them. I have grown men coming up to
me with their kids your age and saying, look at
a picture of me when I was twelve. The dads
are like, look at me when I was twelve with
you in a jersey. And I look over and they're
with their kid, and that kid has a beard. I'm
like used to this now. I'm starting to grown a
(01:01):
little bit more accustomed to.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
It because my dad and I were talking about you
last night, and it's like funny because like I know
you as like, you know, like a podcaster and a
teak talker and like obviously an NBA player, but like
more towards the later years, like on the cows and stuff.
And then he's telling me about like all these glory
stories with you and Vince, and I'm like what, Like,
it's just it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
It causes it causes actually causes some Internet like beef
because you get people in the comments they're like, you sucked.
I saw you play. You only average four points when
you played for the Cavs. And then there's other people
like listen, you know you idiots he used to Yeah,
So it's it's I like it that that just even
my existence causes people.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
To argue all NBA rookie second team right here.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
See I got one Rookie of the year.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Let's go so lucky. I mean I have zero, So
that's impressive. That's wow.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I was. I was very very happy about that.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Congrats. That's a big accomplishment than you. Also, I I've
always been curious about this. Do you have like more
of like maybe a spiritual connection to let's say ToJ
Gibson or Alex Caruso just because you share that NBA
baldness together, you.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Know, yeah, you know what. I feel like there is
a bald brotherhood, but ultimately like there's like there's like
a few different bald brotherhoods right there. There's like the
bald Brotherhood of like, hey, we were bald early and
this is just our book. And then there's the other
one that we're just like, come over, come over to
Bron Bron, you know, over there, all of you guys,
(02:33):
come join us on the bald brotherhood. And they all
eventually will and have and and and that's part of
the fun.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Todg Gibson is definitely part of that. Like I feel
like they're like bald, look with the goggles. When I
see that, I was like, the.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Best thing that I like about is like people just
see a light skin brother and they're like that is
that Todd Gibson Or so I'll be walking to the
airport and they'll be like dodge TODJ. And I'm like
it's so cool because I can like actually ignore you
because you're just calling to the wrong nav. You're not
saying my name in the airport.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
The other day, I saw Lou do Wor and like
it was it was just like it was weird, like
an la X. I didn't think I was gonna see
like an OKAC player, right, but if like I saw
a Laker, like it would click a little bit. And
I walked up to him, and I just think that like,
out of all the people in the airport, he just
didn't expect me to be the one to like walk
up to him. And I was like, hey, Lou, and
he like looked at me and he was like and
(03:20):
I was like yeah, yeah, and he was just like
looking around. It was it was funny references Lou Gwent's
store full name.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Did you ask in your podcast?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
No, I should. I actually my friend after was like
you should walk back, and I was like it was
already or really weird, and it was already. Yeah. He
also well no, he was really nice, but he like
I said to him, you should join the Warriors for
no reason because like really love him, but like he
probably shouldn't join the Warriors. Yeah, And I don't know
why it just came out of my mouth.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Is that your favorite team?
Speaker 1 (03:52):
It is my favorite team?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, that's right. Well, given like your existence on this
planet over that sheer time, the warriors have been Like.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Maybe if I was born in two thousand and one
when you were drafted, I would have been like a
New Jersey Nets fan.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
But yeah, even then you would have been so you
had been like seven or eight.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I also like, why would I be in thats fan? Like,
I'm just gonna be so honest.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
That's fair. Yeah, that's fair. I have no allegiance. Yeah,
I get it.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
We're talking a lot about h it seems to be
an oncoming theme. Yes, I just turned fifteen, so this
is my first podcast episode where I am fifty.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Yeah, everybody we get like, we get some like sounds
like yeah it's needed.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
If you want to get me a gift like that
would be good. No, I still think you should think
that's fair. Yeah, okay, we'll think maybe for your birthday,
I'll donate you some of this, some hair, lots of.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Lots of love.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Maybe you can trade. I can get like a nice
podca I.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Asked for, Like I looked into the locks of love
and then I found out that they have much better
causes than their male pattern bonded.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
So probably other people that need to kid use it
a little bit more, so I know who you are now, okay.
And I also, because I did my research, knew who
you were back then. But I don't want to know that.
I want to know who you were when you were fifteen.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Me at fifteen, there's like some yeah, there's some therapy
in there, there's some some honesty. Me at fifteen, I
was just trying to figure it out. See, it's weird
like everybody you know you see on TikTok where everyone's
like the millennials at ninety five. Like in ninety five,
I was fifteen years old. There were no cell phones,
there were no communications. Your parents would kick you out
(05:30):
of the house. I was just a loudmouthed kid. That
just I'm being vulnerable here. I'm opening up to you
in this time track. No, No, it's fine, we're exactly No.
I was just a fun kid. I was very similar
to you. So I wanted to talk to everybody. I
wanted to know everything. I would immerse myself in basketball.
(05:52):
I would watch videotapes and basketball games and go to
the park for eight hours. It's really cool. And I'll
compliment you for you to find something that you're actually
truly interested in. And then you put the work towards it.
You know, people ask me all the time, hey, do
you want your kids to play basketball? Like, I don't
care if my kids are good at basketball, good at soccer,
if they want to play sports. The only thing that
matters to me is if that's what they want to do,
(06:14):
they approach it and push it passionately.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I never knew you to be so inspiration.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
You know what. Every once in a while I like
to keep people guessing the eight seconds later I'll say
something extremely sarcastic and rude.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Or maybe even really inappropriate, sitting here with a child,
after you've given me.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Like future on my best behavior.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yes, yes, okay? So were you this tall at fifteen?
Was the height situation?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
It was the exact same height I am right now
at fifteen years I was probably about sixty pounds less.
But when I was so I started my freshman year,
I was probably like six one. Ended my freshman year
at like six four.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
So were you fifteen as a sophomore?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah? I sold my birthday. My birthdays in June, so
I turned was I was? I didn't turn twenty first
birthday of summer. Shout out birthday kids, But my birth
I didn't turn fifteen until basically my son you and
Messy have.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
A birthday in the same week. Who knew two of
the greatest of all time?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Honestly, honestly, God was just like, you know what, We'll
just sprinkle over there. You know, it's fine, But that
was really that was really like I grew a bunch
over like a one year span, and then all of
a sudden I showed back up at like six foot
five in Glendale, Arizona, and my high school coach was like, hey, Richard,
you should really start taking this basketball stuff more serious. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
And were you a Sun's fan or were you a
Lakers fan or a Clippers fan?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
What was Lakers? I would say I was a Lakers fan.
I grew up here. Wow as an La. Are you
born and raised La?
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah? But I say I'm from San Francisco just because
I'm not a Bandwagon fan. But then people think I am,
so I'm like, oh, like my dad's from San Francisco,
but he's not. He's from New York. I just want
to just like it's okay.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I've had those lies. Yeah, Like people look, I wear
my watch on my right hand forever, and people are like,
why are you doing you right? I was like, oh,
and I make up a lie just because that's just
what I want to do. Aspected that being said as
a person born here in La I moved when I
was younger. The fact that you like the Golden State
Warriors and you were born and raised La girl, I
respect it be different.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
So yeah, yeah, no, and you weren't different? Was you know?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
It was? I liked the Lakers and then I meant
to Arizona. The Phoenix Suns were really really good because
that's when they had like Charles Barkley, Yeah, Kevin Johnson.
They had some really good players. So I like them,
but I'm a Lakers fan.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Do you have one of those like Suns jerseys where
it was like fires.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
That purple one? Yeah. I was poor kid growing up,
so I didn't have any jerseys. Don't feel bad. Don't
feel bad. It's my cross the bear. Don't make a comment.
Yeah I didn't. You know what, Those are the coolest jerseys,
and I think they're doing those retro jerseys. They're they're
doing those. I am so impressed with your knowledge of
like random NBA stuff. Yeah, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
It's nice that you say you're impressed. Most people would
just call it sad.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
No. No.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Like the other day, I asked my dad if I
could get an addenda to Coompbo Greek Jersey and he
was like sure, so cool, and I was like, no,
I wanted Alex at there at a Combo Greece Jersey.
And he was like oh and I was like yeah,
And it was just awkward because it was like it was.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Just Sae's the one yet yes I want.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Alex and costofs like forget yan because.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
You know why no one else will have it?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Oh you you no, Yes, that's the reason. I also okay,
I was like doing a deep dive for a Jonathan
Mingo Republic of Congo Jersey and they don't make those.
I was really upset.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah they don't. It was really really that's the fact
that you were upset is pretty It was you could
you know what, there's a guy jersey champs, Jersey champs.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I'm gonna listen, you wear this like.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
They have the most obscure jerseys, hockey jersey, pastball jerseys,
all sorts of stuff. Check it out.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yeah, I'm gonna cop that. When you were fifteen, I
know you didn't play as much au as other people.
But do you play against any future NBA players.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
At fifty at that point time, I think the only
one that I probably played with locally was probably Mike
Bibbie and he was a few years older than me.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
But that's probably a cool thing.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, Sacramento Kings like Bibby Jersey, But no that he
was the only one where I grew up. And that's
why basketball for me was such a random thing. When
I started playing basketball at ten, eleven, thirteen, fourteen, there
was I wasn't from LA or Chicago where they were like, hey,
that guy made it or that guy was basically like,
you want to play basketball? We hear people can go
to the NBA. Yeah, I didn't really play against any
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real like future NBA guy, So I probably got to
like sixteen or seventeen.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
And who is that?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
All of them? Really at that point in time, I
all just well, it was like you all started competing.
It doesn't matter if it was Matt Barnes or Carlos
Boozer or you know, Shane Jay Williams all us please.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Okay, so his sons are like the twins or like
the top players in the class of twenty are they really? Yeah,
and I would like love if you could set me
up with one of them.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
You don't care which one, you just want one of them.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I can't say if I have a preference that would be.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
So you're so smart. Yeah, yeah, it's like, yeah, I
like it.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
So if a good word.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
I've known Carlos since.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
H he's a fellow bald NBA brother.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yes, he was very early. Also, he was one of
the infamous Beijing. I never did the Beijing.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Carlos and you want to bronze medal together?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah, we talk about that bronze medal all oftentimes sad,
very sad. But you know what, if it wasn't for us,
they would never be.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
But in the Jewish Junior Olympics, I wont a silver
medal for girls soccer, so technically.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
But I had mine dipping gold. So mine's gold plated.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Oh well, that's cheating.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
So it's not technically cheating. It's just gold plated. It's
still bronze at its core. Just it's gold.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
In my heart, I never knew you were a cheater
like that. Interesting, I'm going to move on to you
now so great or just in your NBA crew?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Sure whatever?
Speaker 1 (11:55):
That fifteen year old.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
We don't care about him.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
That he was awesome though, sort of like, Okay, what
was your welcome to the league moment?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Oh? I had so many of them, I will say, so,
do you remember Latrell's pree Well, I don't know why
I'm asking fifteen year old this, but Latrell's Spreewell previously
had been suspended a couple of years back for choking
his coach. Oh, so he got suspended for choking his coach,
And I will never forget this. My first year, I'm
putting on a jersey. We're a preseason game and I'm
sitting here and we're playing against the Knicks, and my
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coach is like, Richard, get in. You got Carrie walking
into the game for the first moment. It's a preseason game.
And no, no, no, we were in Connecticut because it
was a preseason game Nets versus next preseason game. My
first time putting on the jersey, first time going in
the game, I'm coming off the bench to coach. He's like,
go get Carrie kittles cool and I was like, who
that got. He's like, you got Latrell'spreewell. And the first
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thing that popped in my head. I was like, the
guy that choked his coach like that to me was
wholly like, hoh, we're really I'm sorry for guessing, we're
really doing that. So that was probably my first welcome
to the NBA moment. And then my second one was
the moment that I got to play against Michael Jordan,
you know, because Michael Jordan came back those were the
Wizard years and you're like, yep, I'm playing against mj
(13:12):
This shit is real. I don't care if he's one
hundred or if he's fifty or if he's twelve. I'm
playing against Michael Jordan. This shit is strange.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
So that was it for me, so we know, welcome
to the league moment. I have a question for you.
So I've known come up with something called like a
what the hell is my life come to? Moment? And
like I was wondering, do you think when you like
had that poster on Clay I think in those in
the in the Christmas Jursey, Yes, yes, do you think
that that was what the hell has happened to me? Moment?
Because like that was later in your career and like
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that was his prime and then all of a sudden,
He's like, shoot, Richard Jefferson, just like put me on
a poster like this is so awkward.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
And the best part about is that I had Clay.
I played with Clay when he was a rookie in
Golden State. I'm a former Warrior. That's I know, Like, listen,
she is good. People like just like this is impressive
off the top. Yeah, those are the moments that like
in the NBA, especially happened later in my career, Like
I went to two finals early, didn't think I was
ever going to go again. I just loved the game
(14:06):
of basketball, wanted to keep playing and competing. Got very,
very fortunate to be in a process, and all of
a sudden, fifteen years later, I'm back in the NBA
Finals and it's like, what does my life become? How
am I still here? And so to dunk on Clay.
The best part about dunking on Clay is that we
ended up going to the scorer's table like a little
bit later again, and he just looked at me and
was just like, anybody but you, anybody but you, And.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I was like the hell out that moment, you know what.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
That actually makes me feel better that you wished it
wasn't me. That made me feel better. I get that.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
So in twenty twelve to twenty thirteen, when you were
a Warrior, I believe that that was the first year
that Steph, dray and Clay played together. Could you see
the dynasty coming or it wasn't clear?
Speaker 2 (14:48):
No, it was not so the first I think that
was the first year. So I think that was the
lockout year.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Maybe Tramon was drafted in twenty eleven. I think that
must have been the first.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Draymond. No, so Draymond was drafted in twenty eleven. So
I showed up at twenty ten after the lockout. That
was Clay's rookie year. Steph was hurt when I got there.
The next year is when they drafted Harrison. They drafted
uh and Raymond. So then that was the first year
I saw a special I didn't know what it was.
He broke the record that year, the first time he
broke the NBA three point record, and it was like
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he did it with such ease, and it was like
he hadn't even pushed himself to the wall. But that
was the first year Steph was becoming Steph. Thirteen or
twelve twelve, because that was the year they beat they
beat They beat Denver in the first round, lost to
the first Then they lost to the Clippers. Next year,
sood first year they didn't make the Pope postseason. Next
(15:39):
year they won the first round, lost in the second round.
Next year they lost the Clippers. They fired Mark Jackson
that summer they brought in Steve. Then they won championship, final, championship.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
We know the rest.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I just like that, Yeah, she's not the only one
that knows.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Bunch of stuff, y'all, okay, but like that's Commons that's
coming in.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
That's like not everyone, no, but thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
You're so inclusive. And do you think that, like Steph
is the best shot of all time because of you,
your leadership, one thousand to the go ahead, Like come on,
why would it be del? Like why would it be Del?
It would be you?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Honestly, when I look at the encouragement that I've given
him over the years, and like I don't want credit.
I think we have an unspoken thing when it's a
very unspoken thing when we see each other that like Richard,
like I would not be the person I am without
your leadership in your.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Tea, I just thought of something and like, you has
to tell me this is real. So you know, Steph
broke the record in Madison Square Garden, in the Mecca
where you're most hated. Do you think that he was
doing that as like a shout out to you, being like,
this is for you, Richard, Like I couldn't because he
could have broken it before he was in a slump.
But maybe it was on purpose to wait for the
game against the Knicks to be like this is for
you Richard.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Well, you know what what I like to say is that,
like I like to say that I encouraged him in
that moment and I was just like, hey, listen, I
know of all this stuff going on, you go out
there and you do this for yourself. I gave him
one of those like Rocky speeches. Rocky was a movie
that came out in the eighties and nineties.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I'm not sure if you're a familiar, because Michael B.
Jordan was in like the New Rocky and so like,
Michael B. Jordan come on, so like that's so then
I so then I had to be like, oh, why.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Rocky, who is this guy?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
And then I was like, oh, yeah, he knows Michael B.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Jordan. So that's fair. Okay, so you do no Rocky,
but that's what I was saying. I gave him kind
of a Rocky go get him speed, and he was like, Richard,
I'm gonna do this for you. That's what he said.
So sweet. I know he's adorable. You know, he probably
said it to nine other people. He was probably visiting hospitals.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
And saying it to all the kids.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
So it was just like he was just I think.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
It's carrying Fosse puppies.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yes, it was amazing, Like it was just the things
that he does. It's some perfect guy, perfect.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Guy of him. So you were drafted thirteenth overall. Now
people say thirteenth is an not unlucky number.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
But it's my lucky number, as it should be.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Do you think that being drafted thirteenth overall made your
career lucky or.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Unlucky, very lucky? I could not. When you say, like,
what the hell has my life become? Or that like
what is my life woman? Yes, it was all up
to thirteen thirteen. I got drafted in the right place
to play with the perfect players, to play on the
perfect team. Everything was like I could not have dreamed.
There was not a team a situation I would have
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rather gone to than one that I went to. So
I think it was the luckiest number that I've ever had.
On top of the fact, when you look at like thirteen,
look we get it. Number one picks number five. Thirteen
is one of the most random numbers you have. Donovan Mitchell,
Kobe Bryant, you know, the late great you know so
so Tyler Hero another one. You know, Tyler Hero.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
It's just funny because you're like Kobe Bryant, Tyler Hero.
I love Tyler.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
There's a fraternity. We were the middle of the path,
we were in the like, you know, we're in the
middle of the past, and we found our way out.
So it was like there's a there's a little bit
of a brother out there.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
You and Kobe, Kobe, you guys, Kobe, we're so similar.
That's a trio.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Stephen A. Smith, I'm really you. I'm actually gonna change that.
Cut that out. Richard Jefferson is known for some crazy
to m M. They're hot, they're hot. But oh, Richard,
here we go. Have you ever seen a take hotter
than Kelly? You'r dge and you know you haven't. No,
you haven't. I mean those green eyes, those tattoos, that
(19:30):
bleef blond hair. No takes are that hot. But we're
gonna go out there with some takes that are going
to be so hot. It's gonna be like Kelly Ridge.
I know it's tough.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
It is.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
It is tough, but I think we can do it.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I believe.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I believe you, thank you, and I and I believe
in you, and I believe in Kelly. And I know
a lot about Kelly Man that that's a gorgeous guy.
That is a gorgeous guy. I love him. I just
love that guy. Okay, beautiful. I just when I think
about him, it's just like be.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I don't want to talk about Kelly. I get I
could take it.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
I'm imagining him in that show.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Okay, one day you'll interview him. It's going to be great.
I want to watch that. I want to see that.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
No, but I don't think I'm gonna be able to focus.
It's gonna be so hard. I'm just gonna be like
staring at his eye.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
But that's the Yeah, that's why I want to laugh
about Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Yeah, Okay, Okay, let's go which NBA player is the
best dressed.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Currently currently best dressed. That's a tough one because these
bad boys are bringing out all the stops. I don't
I don't know who I like, and I'm supposed to
do quick fire and I'm sitting out going down the
down the list of guys best dressed. Let's go with
Kelly Obray.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yeah, Kelly, Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
You know, there's there's so many guys I like Poppy.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Two words Poppy?
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Is that is that a thing? That's that's his nickname? Okay,
Tsunami Poppy, Okay, just dripping beautiful dress. Okay, I got.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Which NBA player currently has the best shoe game? So
I like to say this every time. But if you
don't say p J. Tucker, I just think you're just
trying to be different.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
It's just weird. Like, yeah, I was going to throw
him in the best dress because I was going to
add his shoe game Justice Clean. But yeah, his shoe
game is like, that's the that's the same.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
He's not Poppy. He's not listen, no one is no
one is not even Champagne Poppy.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Don't tell him that. Don't tell him that. He'll start
singing Drake. Sorry.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, not as beautiful but close close, But no one,
No one's like this to not me. Okay, who is
the funniest NBA player? I knew this one was going
to get you going because I know what you want to.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Say, like people that I had played against, or just
just go current current. Okay, listen, I'm saying that.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Some people I still say against I was alive.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Tim Duncan is one of the funniest players and teammates
I've ever had. Currently currently, I'm gonna say this, there's
two Klay Thompson and Anthony Edwards. Anthony Edwards, he just
some of his interviews are is so funny. But Clay Thompson.
No one has a better time than Clay. No one
has a better time than Clay. He's on his boat,
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he's got his dog. You never know what he's gonna say.
He just takes his boat out. But Clay, to me
is when I say funniest, He's just one of those
guys that like is super funny but doesn't know why
he's funny.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
He's just flew off on the boat like that was like, yeah,
that was like life being funny to him. I don't
really think he was the one Anthony Edwards is like
good at being funny, good at being funny, Like it
seems like he's been like I feel.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Like he named his dog like Junior, right like Anthony
Edwards Junior. He already named his dog that, and you're
just like good for you, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
So good and or like when he did his top
five players of all time and he like was like myself.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Like that he should he should believe that. But no
one has more fun than Clay, and Clay has fun
good for him?
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Which NBA player currently is the most overrated?
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Most overrated?
Speaker 1 (22:55):
The nice thing about you is I know you're gonna answer.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Answer most over aid player. That's a good one. I'm
gonna say this Zion Williamson. And I'm not gonna like
go at Zion from that standpoint, but I want Zion
to earn the greatness that he is entitled to. So
he's got all the attention, all the love, and it's like,
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my thing is this, when the facts change, so will
my opinions. So that means he could go on and
they will change one hundred percent believe in him. But
right now, the attention that he gets, the love that
he gets, and he's been injured unfortunately in some other stuff.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Well, he doesn't get a lot of love.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
He actually right, So this is not hate. This is
more of saying like, hey, hey, all the dunks, all
that stuff is great when we are in the business
of getting paid to win and perform. If you're not
winning and performing, then then criticism is going to come.
So I believe he will improve. But right now I
think he would be the most overrated.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
I agree. I think that that's understandable. Let's look at us,
let's go I mean, if he wants to go out
there and be as good as he has the potential
to be, he has to go out there. He needs
to really perform like we know he can. He's the
youngest starting All Star ever, but he needs to really
be that bad dude.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Sorry, yeah, give me sixty five games. Give me sixty
five games this year. Take your team to the postseason.
I will shut my mouth, salute you, and say you
deserve on the All NBA team currently right now I
need more from you, og, Yeah, thank you for that.
This is my pleasure.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Listen, listen. Yeah, I'm sure, I mean, I'm sure he's
like sitting comfortably in the mansion right now. But like
if he'll he'll he'll be fine no matter what.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Most underrated, most underrated, ooh, this is a good one.
I think. I think Chris Middleton. I'll say Chris Middleton.
And the reason why I say Chris Middleton is because
we know he's a champion, we know he's an All Star.
But I think you greatly underestimate his importance to a
championship team. Last year, if they would have had him,
I think they would have repeated his champions in my opinion, Yes,
(25:00):
the Golden State Warriors. It would have been a good one.
It would have been a good battle. Would But I
think Chris Middleton is so important to the success of
Yannis because Jannis might be shack. Chris Middleton kind of
fills in the gaps, very similar to how Kobe would.
And I think like he's just one of those guys
that if he would have been healthy and their team
is healthy, he is so they like they took him
(25:21):
to seven, They took the Boston Celtics to seven without him, Yeah,
and it's just like if he would have been there,
they would have won. They Yeah, they would have won
in five or six.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Feel he's properly rated, though, see because he's been an
alser maybe like four or few or four times many
times where you're sort of like, huh, how did he
get there?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I think the underrated part is I don't think people
understand why, why and how good he is. It's like, oh,
he's one of the top thirty players in the part.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
You don't know, but he's like he's one of the
top thirty players in the league. But like his importance
level is probably closer to top ten.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah, oh top ten.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
What importance? And that means that like if Chris Middle
and Giannis and those guys are healthy, then he'll then
you start to see, like he closes the games, he
makes the late game plays, he does all of that stuff.
And Giannis is just that monster that does everything else.
He is a monster. He's so good.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Which NBA player is the best singer?
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Ooh? Any of these guys get any talent? I don't know.
They're all rapping now. Everybody's got there, everybody's got their own.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Like Victor Oladipo's actually no, he was on the mass
singer and he like almost won, Like he's actually really
good singer. I can see that he is real talent
I can see.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I don't I don't get that far right with some
of the guys's extracurriculars. But there are no because it's
like there's four hundred and fifty players, there's going to
be one hundred percent of guy that can play instruments,
play music, that can play other sports play. I can
see Oladipo being a great singer. Yeah, I got no
issue with that. It's him. He's the best singer, best singer.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Yeah, Victor, you you got so proud of him. Now
we're going on to another segment called Muggsy or Minute.
So we know Muggsy Bogues you're player ever insulting, but yes.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
You're young, you're still growing.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
I know. I was just giving you a little I
was just trying to I was just trying to like
help you.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yeah, okay, and then New Bowl tallest NBA player of
all time on the same team.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yes, Wizards, Bullets, bullets. You know, I don't want to bullets.
You know it's not going to bring you know, I
was going to say Indians, I was gonna say Guardians.
You know, see.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Getting controversy controversial.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
I'm just saying, like I just was saying the current
team name versus that's not like.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Is bullets really like that controversy?
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Well, when they had the highest rate and crime rate, it.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Was kind of like they're like, maybe we should change.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Like it's kind of awkward bullets. Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
You could also get another way with like presidents being
assassinated with there's.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
A lot we don't need bullets, you know, as Guilbert.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
But like this is getting awkward too. Wow, I need
to get out of this. Okay, now, let's just go
go go fast. We're a talk.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I don't care how long this thing takes. I'll stay
here all day.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Let's go MJ or Kobe, last shot j Lebron James
on the Calves or Lebron James on the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Oh, Calves, second stint, Calves.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
I feel like you're giving you credit.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Second stint, Calves. Okay, I'll do this. First stint Miami.
He was the most physically.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
It wasn't the question.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Okay, never.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Lakers or Clippers.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Oh, this is the Lakers town.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I don't know this season.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
That was the answer. Final answer, Lakers.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Playing basketball or reffing basket.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Oh my god, playing basketball will never read I'm a terrible.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
You really are rams? Are Cardinals?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Oh what? Ramsay? Because you for you?
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Why because when you were born in LA, they weren't
they were in Saint Louis.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Okay, this is why. Because when I moved to Arizona,
the Cardinals were trashed for like a decade, and I
was like, I hate them. So then I always said,
the first team that moves back to LA will be
my team. That's gonna be my football team. Because I
didn't like the Cardinals, and then I just didn't have
a team. I'd support it.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Now you could like, but now I know, screw the Cardinals.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
I love the Rams. That is my team. I went
to the Super Bowl, went to the Let's Go Together.
That's cute. Yeah, so awesome, Great, it's so much fun.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Do you sometimes remind me of a teenage girl?
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Me? Yeah, I have a lot of that vibe. That's
why all the teenage boys like to follow me.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
But also your like comedy is like a teenage boy.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Instagram or TikTok TikTok easy easy.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
That's also you.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Only post tiktoks on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
That's the only thing I post. I used to try
and post Instagram. But I'm not gonna like that's not
for me.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
It's all about TikTok Steph or Magic Magic And that's.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
No disrespect Steph. That's fine. You could be mad. People
were trying to say, oh.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
After all this, come on, people say this fourth ring
though I don't even want to.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
I love Steph, Like I said, I don't think that
there is a better because I love this game so much,
like I like, I love it like to my core,
and so I love people that represent the game the
right way, and there is not a better representative on
this planet than Steph. And I stand that with Lebron.
I think Steph has done so much for this game.
I think Bron all these guys, but Steph. Yes, he's
(30:25):
that dude. Magic Johnson though, like we forget that this
league almost was like about to like fold and not
even exist, and Magic was one of those guys that
has changed it. Yes, but so did Magic Johnson. So
did Magic Johnson, So Didareem adul Jabbar so like, and
so did Shaquille O'Neil. So obviously from from a standpoint,
but this is a quick history lesson. Everyone says that
(30:46):
Steph changes the game. That is true, he did change
the game, but that implies that he's the only person
to ever change the game over the course of basketball history. Shack.
They had to literally change the equipment for Shack. He
was that physical, that strong, Magic Johnson. There had never
been a six to nine point guard ever done anything
that really saved the game. Him and Larry Bird known
as saving the game. Kareem adul Jabbar. They wouldn't allow
him to dunk the basketball because it was too easy.
(31:09):
That's why he created the skyhook. Because they outlawed dunking.
They made a rule that said you couldn't dunk. That's
the definition of changing the game. So when people talk
about Steph changing the game, there's a history of players
being so impactful and Steph belongs to I'm such a nerd,
such a nerd. That's why I like that you were
a nerd.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
I was like, she's I am sort of as.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
You're such a nerd. That's why I can spot, but
I like cover it up.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
I feel like you just like are proud of all at.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
This point in time. It's like I'm forty two there,
I have no other skills. I'm like, yeah, I'm a
basketball nerd. Yeah, I love it. It's whatever. It's not
just a little bit it is. It's not even a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
It's a lot of It's a lot of it. I
don't know if you're like a soccer fan here, Okay,
but Rinaldo or Messy.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Oh, I'm gonna say Ronaldo really why, I don't know.
I like I look, I know Messi's a stud and
a little guy. But I like the athleticism because to
be big and strong and skilled impressive. But yeah, you know,
I don't want to know. But Ronald, I like, Christiano's
(32:12):
story is really really cool and he has He's that dude?
Is that dude?
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Okay, we ended it on this.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
There we go. I'm nervous. I feel like this would
be a drum roll? Can you guys dr drum roll
on post? All right? Doris Burke or me Doris? And
that's not even a question. But Doris is amazing and
you should get Doris to sit right here. Doris is
the godmother of basketball. Like, think about that godmother of basketball.
She'll you call her for advice, She'll give you advice
(32:43):
and she'll shoot you straight. She'll give you some love,
she'll give you some some hugs. She'll give you some
shut the hell ups. She'll She is one of the
most amazing people that I've ever met in this industry
by far, and you should get to know her.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
And I'm also one of the most amazing people.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Yeah, that's why I said you should get to know
where to you like amazing you clearly, Doris Burke. You
should get her in this seat, Doris Dori.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Someone's sitting the seat the two best it's number one
and number two.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
What's a baby goat called?
Speaker 1 (33:15):
I think a baby goat?
Speaker 2 (33:17):
I don't know. There's like, what is the what is
the what is a baby horse called?
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Opponent?
Speaker 2 (33:21):
No?
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Wait, no, no, that's a long word. No ponies, just
a small horse. I don't know what it's.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Called, but there is. But there is like half No,
that's a cow woman.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
I've ever known a woman before. That's it feel so big?
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Were you're fifteen? You're fifteen? Yeah? Wow? Cool?
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Okay, great, all right, yeah, okay, good yeah, bye bye.
Thank you so much for listening to this episode of
Sloan Notes with me and Richard Jefferson, the NBA player
with the worst tattoo ever. If you want to see
more videos of Richard and I make sure to follow
Sloan notes on TikTok and Instagram. Blown has me, by
(34:00):
the way, M
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