March 19, 2024 • 58 mins
Aaron Murray and T-Bob Hebert discuss Kalen DeBoer’s contract at Alabama, a whopping $10.875 million per year. The guys then answer mailbag questions from fans such as mascot mode in NCAA 25, and whether Deion Sanders can win a national championship as head coach of Colorado.
01:30 - Introduction
11:30 - Clemson suing ACC
29:30 - Calen DeBoer’s new contract
37:30 - Mailbag
42:00 - Could Deion Sander win a national championship
48:00 - More mailbag!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Yo, what's up everybody? Welcome?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Man, I met some red beans. Just left a field
trip with my daughter and very fun. She goes to
school on Elision's campus, like place you high. And so
we got to uh, we're going to tour the LSU
locker rooms.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Oh yeah, go on Tiger Stadium, Death Ballly, you know,
Death Valley. I'm gonna be one hundred years old this year.
Air and so a new bigger video board. Got some
LED lights coming in.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Wait, y'all are behind the LED light game? Come on, tee,
what's going on?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I know I am, and you know I think Look,
I think it can be overdone. But also I think
LED lights are actually objectively pretty tight. Yes, like it's
it's really cool. I don't love it when it goes
like black in the stadium. All the still is kind
of a site to a hoaxer. Remind you how dark
it is actually outside when these games are being played
without the genius of human ingenuity. But like when Alabama,
(01:09):
I don't know how Georgiana does it, but when Alabama
paints that shit red and Nick Saban was standing on
the sideline, I mean that was some real intimidating like evil.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Empire type stuff. That's that's the good stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
So I'm looking forard to Elsho because I don't know
how many purples I've seen from the led lights.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
You know, No, I don't think at first, that's what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I don't feel like I've ever seen anything just swathed
and bathed in purple.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
That's what as I asked, like, how intimidating is purple?
It is royalty. It is the color of royalty. So
that's pretty sweet. Scott and the chat out of Boy
eight ninety three.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Hoddle can look you can look a little uh what
I'm not actually, I'm not even gonna ask.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
M Yeah, you could look a little.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I mean, purple could look a little alien like a
little intimidating, right. I think it'd be real tight if
somebody was green. Is anybody green in the sec? Actually no,
because that would be I mean, that would be that
real like otherworldly alien like the Pelicans. I have these
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uniforms that are like the shadow Man from a Princess
and the Frog. You know, they've got these They've called
them the skeletons. It's got like a Pelican skeleton and
it's all that kind of sickly green of voodoo. And
when you're playing the badass basketball the Pelicans are. It's
really tight looking and they do this like green smoke thing.
(02:36):
Before the UF could do green? Could Florida do green?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Is the orange of blue? He's the first one?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, but they I mean alligators are green though.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah. I know your point. You could maybe that's the
closest one.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Surfer Boy says they're way too drunken Death Valley to
do the lights too heavy, you would scare of the
swamp people. I look, Uh do you have solo? It's
intimidating when you have over one hundred thousand until you
just suck that tiger dick bitch?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah, it would? I mean that that that would? I love?
Is that? Is? That? Is that truly? Does everyone know
what stt dB means? Yeah? That's what that means? Wow? Yeah,
I was like, what the what is stt Oh?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
See what suck that dick bitch? Okay, there we go. Wow.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
And of course it's somewhat problematic. Uh, if you wanted
to argue in favor of it, you would say that
the bitch is not gender specific.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
But you know, you're kind of.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I don't know that said, it does seem to be
one of the cheers that gets both the males and
females going in the stadium.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
For whatever it's worth.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
That's why you can no longer play neck, though, because
that's what the entire stadium would yell when they would
play neck, which is just insane to hear ninety thousand
adults yelling that hit the like.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Bud Yo, where were at? We have fifteen? No, so close?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Fourteen nine? Okay, guys, fourteen more. We got to get
to fifteen by Thursday. We've got a couple of days here.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Oh shit.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
John Schult really wants us to mention Tony Alford leaving
Ohio State for Michigan. Have you read about Tony Alford
leaving Ohio State for Michigan? Aaron that the.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Coach was that the coach? Okay, So I gotta be honest, John.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
He's been hit me up on Twitter talking about this,
and I apologize because I know it's an interesting story.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I have not locked you up yet.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
In fact, today's show in general, I'm glad it's mail
bag day and it will be taking questions from the chat.
Why not, because I you know, normally I like to
do a lot of prep for the shows. This is
kind of a coming in hot day for your boy.
As I was at the field trip my daughter, a
ton of fun. We go through the locker room. Tiger
stayed way nicer than when I played next day, and
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then uh yeah, we had like a little picnic out
there and then I headed straight over here. Aaron, do
you know how HUEP. Long got Tiger Stadium to be
so big back in the day.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
No, he was back in the thirties.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
He built dorms into the stadium so that you could
justify it was either further expenses or size or whatever, like,
you could justify spending on it because technically you were
a state school spending on student housing. So my grandpa
back in the fifties actually lived in Tiger Stadium.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
During his first couple of years at LSU. It's pretty awesome.
And I got into the actual stadium from your dorm
like in the sense of going to the field.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Oh when you look, when you look at Tiger Stadium
next time, look at the windows on the lower level
and then understand those are all dormsty And and when
that hype video that I filmed for Tennessee before else
you got their ass kicked two years ago. We actually
got the film that in those dorm rooms and they've
been abandoned since like the seventies and bro, that shit
was crazy.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
It was like, what's in there?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Nothing, It's just like some decrepit, like walking dead type stuff.
I mean, they've ripped down, lockdown most of the walls.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
That's just the sold just old.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
You can just feel the history in that building.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
It's crazy. You could feel all the all of the
when we get it one more time, the STTDB going
on in those rooms, right.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
And there was certainly a lot of that in the seventies.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
That was a lot of it in the seventies and forties, fifties.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I wonder how much how I wonder when blowjobs kind
of hit their popularity inflection point, right, Like in the
fifties were blowjobs a big deal?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Are we are we here?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Here's what I.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Always think about because it feels recent, right, it feels like,
are you know, are recent?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Well?
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I don't know, That's what I'm saying, Like, do you
think in the fifties people were getting blow.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Jobs and giving them? Well, I just feel like rap
music has definitely made it seem more popular, but I
think it's always.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Happened thing that I would have tied rap music specifically
as a reason for increased filatio.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Wow, I don't hear like the disco music back in
the day talking about given pjs. Uh, I think it's
so much more. I think it's like you're like a
twelve year old kid listening to the rap in your
mom's car, and all of a sudden the rappers something like,
it's just it's more common, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Uh, well, yes, I would say that, yes, we've become
sexualized as society more like, I would agree with that.
I just wonder in the fifties this filatio was a
normal thing for college kids to perform one another. I mean,
certainly something like Animal House maybe point to it being so.
But Scott Dice, is this true? He says he has
sex with one of the Spanish teachers in those dorm
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rooms and he was at LSU work out. Scott, it's
pretty pretty cool, all right. Sorry, I don't know how this.
I don't know how this starts.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Serve voices.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Aaronst knows what HB T F D means. I'm afraid
of what that means. Do you know what that means?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I don't. I swear I've seen it a million times.
Probably don't still know what it means.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Such a nerd dude, look at you, all right. So
on today's show, we now know Kaylin de Boor's salary.
So there's what it's kind of one of the great
pastime of sports is talking about another man's money, and
so we'll get into that.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
We also have Clemson a.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Day after Aaron Murray told you the fight in the
acc was not over, which I ought to be clear,
I never said the fight was over, but.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
We didn't do it. No, I didn't. I know. You're
just gonna paint it this way. Just take the lt
just take it out.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I'm not I'm not. Go dog says it's how about
them fucking dogs? Come on, dude, get it, get up, dude.
Lockez's filati has been happening for the longest humans been around.
There's references to it from ancient Peru and classical room. No, okay,
to be fair, I know, like if human beings could
put something in their mouth that feels good good, like
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I know we've been doing that. I guess I mean
more culturally, here in America, right, because we see, you know,
we were formed with these Puritan ideals and we're very
fussy about sex, and so I'm just more wondering, like,
if I went out in the fifties, would you have
a chance of meeting someone and later that night maybe
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giving kinlingis or receiving filatio.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
I just wonder.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I mean, certainly, I would imagine it's more common today,
but I don't know. Maybe some of the old heads
can help us out.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
A little bit.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
But either way, like, I'm pretty sure a lot of
that was likely both kinnn of lingis and filatia were
going on in spades in those old dorm rooms, I
would imagine. All Right, so you just want to dive
into the Clemson one first, and since you seem to
want a victory lap over it, I.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Would love to start the show by victory lapping all
over you. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Okay, So Clemson has filed a lawsuit against the ACC,
which means the conference is now facing lawsuits from both
Clemson and Florida State. Aaron, yesterday, I said that the
fourteen team playoff keeps college football together, and you said that, well,
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but the ACC's fight is not over yet right, And
of course Clemson's finding this lawsuit because they just basically
got forced to agree to a deal in which they
will receive half the money each year out of the
TV revenue of the schools that they will be directly
competing with. So what's your interpretation of this lawsuit then,
mister smart guy.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Well, I mean the interpretation is that they want out,
There's no doubt about it. I mean they see the
money being lost once again to the Big ten, to
the SEC, the sitting in the room with the decision makers,
knowing that you're at the kids table and the big
ten in the SEC at the adult table. Like, that's
not a good feeling if you're Florida State or Clemson
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or the Carolinas or Miami, like you view your brand
as one of the biggest brands in college football, yet
you are not in charge of the next director in
the next phase of college football. And it's humbling, it's frustrating.
I'd be pissed off as hell. Florida State obviously has
voiced their concerns for a couple of years.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Now.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Clemson here and there is somewhat voiced it. Now this
is their real big push, saying like, enough's enough already.
So I mean, when you look at it, and I'm
looking at the peat damn article that just came out
on ESPN, and you see unenforceable when it comes to
the grant of rights, uh language you agree in.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
It, you're saying that's what Clemson. What is Clemson trying
to argue. They're trying to argue the granted rights should
be unenforceable.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yes, the grant of rights and exifies calling the withdrawal
penalty unenforceable.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I mean, I guess we'll see. From what I read
in that on three article, it looks like Clemson's been
working on this as long as Florida State has. They've
just been doing it in the shadows, more and more
so than Florida State's very vocal efforts.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I guess, though.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
My reaction is, does this change anything if Florida State
hasn't found a way out yet, if Clemson hasn't found
a way out, Like I still don't. It feels like
they have an angle they're taking, But I don't know
that it sounds like that they have a legal slam.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I don't think they do. No, No, I don't think
they do, or they would have already taken that route
and moved like forestate would have been gone a year
ago if they could have gone out this grand of rights.
I think it is ironclad. I think it is very difficult,
almost impossible to get out of it. I think they're
not going the route of how do we make a
circus out of this and pressure the ACC into doing something.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
So yeah, So here's here's a direct quote from Clemson's
lawsuit quote. Without a judicial declaration of its legal rights,
which have been openly challenged by the ACC, Clemson is
unable to pursue a wide range of strategic alternatives that
may be necessary for its continued success in collegiate athletics
and as an institution. By espousing an inaccurate interpretation of
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the granted rights agreements and allowing that interpretation to polarily
proliferate throughout the media, the ACC has cost a cast
a harmful cloud of doubt on Clipson's ability to engage
in meaningful discussions with other conferences and media providers regarding
potential future collaborations, and or to negotiate alternative revenue sharing
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proposals among ACC members. For Clipson to move ahead and
ensure that it may continue to act in further in
so its institutional message mission that cloud must be lifted.
So to me, not being a lawyer, just being somebody
who had to play to red beans, I think the
key here. So obviously they're trying to argue that, like
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they said, their their ability to negotiate these TV contracts,
talk to other conferences about where they bring to the
conference have been hindered, that people aren't interested in dealing
with them because well, they think they're not allowed to
deal with them. I think the key line is here,
by espousing an inaccurate interpretation of the grant of right
now agreements, that is doing a lot of heavy lifting,
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Like that's what Clemson and Florida State are going to
have to prove. You're telling me it's an inaccurate interpretation.
How you know, because they're saying they're basically saying, well,
the ACC's painting this inaccurate picture, this false picture, and
then they're telling everybody about everybody's accepting it.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
But that's not the case.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
But they still haven't told us necessarily why that's not
the case.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
I mean, do you know the fact, like if if
there was a way to get out like this this,
this interpretation would have been brought to light by now
and Florida State would be farther along the path of
exiting the a CEC.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Well, that's why it feels like a That's why it
feels like a play, you know. That's what it's like A.
It's like it's it's a deep ball here. Yeah, they're
they're maybe made. Their lawyers have likely tried to find
some way of a phrase of framing the terms of
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the granted right agreements to try to present a loophole. Now,
maybe they feel because like I said, they've been operating
the shadows more Southern Florida State has right, So maybe
they feel like like they've they've really crafted something good
here and they're waiting to release it as the kind
of look and here's what the case actually is.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
I would say this to my understanding, and I find this.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
To be so funny and so incredible, But to my understanding,
you cannot look at the grant of rights agreement that
the ACC has online, like I believe as a lawyer,
they will not send you the documents. I remember reading
that the only way to study the documents is to
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actually go to the ACC offices. Is to send your
like it's the declaration of independence, is to send your
lawyers to the offices to read the exact copy. Maybe
I'll try to look that up and double check, but
in my head that I'm just imagining.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Like, Okay, somebody asked me what's.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I would I would say, and this is just from
all my years of watching suits. Unless the lawsuit is
put forward, then they don't technically have to present it
to you. Uh what Once Once the lawsuit is presented,
then then you know, obviously you go through discovery. It's
like I want to be lawyer over here. You go
through discovery and then you have to then send everything
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you have you maybe then you have to.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
So maybe I'm wrong on that. I feel like I
remember next. I was just tickled to death by it.
Like somebody asked, what's better, Return of the Jedi, return
of the King. I mean, for me, it's Return of
the King. I love Lord of the Rings. And when
I think about a grant of rite agreement that you
can only read in person, I think about Gandalf when
he rides to menace tier If and he's got like
the the the clouds of smoke ringed around his head
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and He's just rifling through scrolls and papers trying to
find a seal door's writings on the ring to see
if the ring that Froto has is indeed the one
ring like that.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Those are Limpson's lawyers deep in the bowels of ACC headquarters,
trying to figure out a way to free their people
from the clutches of ACC oppression.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I guess like Game of Thrones when your twin, your
twin had to ride to Sam Tarley. Yes, Sam had
to go ride to go find out the true secrets
of uh you know, the true the true Yeah, what
was he looking for?
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Me?
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Who's looking to try to heal gray scale?
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Right? Yes, just try to heal gray scale, which you know.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
If you could heal grayscale that early easily, it probably
wouldn't be that big of a deal. But but whatever,
that's that's that's either here nor there. See somebody said
you tuned out. No, Aaron was just getting his own
fantasy analogy ready, Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Get my dog some credit.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Okay, was not as was not as smooth as T Bobs,
But I got a little little nerdy there.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Tommy says Murray, putting those nine seasons of suits to
good use is Now, are you learned about discovery?
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I am. I am married to an attorney, so I
do listen to hervy.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Now that was no, So he has the actual legal
So we need to bring Sharon Murray in on this
and we can get actual legal advice.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
So here's where I'm at with this story.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
I don't know that this moves it forward for me
in any significant way until I see Clemson's specific argument
as to how the grant of rights is being inaccurately
interpreted and how it's being inaccurately applied, and then we
can judge on our own merit. Do we think that
this argument has well? First off, does it have like
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does it pass the general public sniff test? I won't
even get into a legal stiff test. We can talk
to a lawyer about that. But I want to know,
like if I hear their argument and I'm like, oh, okay,
you know what, maybe there's something there actually, because right
now I it seems like, I mean, I completely understand
why they're upset, and I completely understand that, yes, their
ability to negotiate their future is being capped and is
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being controlled, and that's got to be incredibly frustrating, but
I mean it also looks like they signed a.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
You signed it, damn it, you signed a contract. I'm
not saying I'm numb to it, because I do think
you get enough enough powerful people to the table that
maybe you can make some sort of movement in the
right direction. But until something is presented to me that
goes above and beyond just trying to use big words
in an ESPN article, it's hard for me to feel
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like there is a path out of this grant of rights.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
I just have not been present only fact, I always
feel like lawyers are skilled enough and like you're kind
of getting that where there's enough money or enough will,
there's a way. But it's so life or death for
the ACC that it may not actually be the case,
right because if the ACC loses these two teams start,
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they're gonna start to smell like the PAC twelve a bit.
I don't know if I think there are one hundred
percent done, but but if you lose these two then
I imagine, oh that that that quote about precedence, then
I love so much. But like, if if you lose
these two, then I imagine the door will open for
you and C we know is Miami by uh the
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sec U, Yeah, Miami, Virginia. Getting those markets are attractive
to the conferences. So yeah, I do feel you this
almost feels like a little it could be like you're
walking on the ice right now. It is the pe
it just shatters.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
I mean the Pac twelve lost, you know, they lost
Los Angeles. Then you lose Oregon and in Washington and
then from there it was just like flagates are open,
We're out of here. Because at that point, like where's
the deal to be made when it comes to creating
any sort of revenue for the remaining schools, Like why
would they stay when it was all said and done?
So yeah, you see knows if you lose your two
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big two, your your big two, kind of like losing
Washington Oregon, but you can't stand on these the other
teams and hope to survive. Now.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
I would think though that wouldn't necessarily change the fourteen
team playoff beyond these automatic qualifiers getting getting just split
up and divvied up among other conferences or going to
at large bids, right Like, I see no reason why
because like the Big twelve would likely just be like whoa, guys,
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what the fuck we didn't do anything, you know, yeah, it.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Was just ecuse.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
But then again, I don't know, like if there's legally's
in there, and it's not even finalized yet, so we
definitely don't.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Know the But to me, to me, the one worry
I would have if I'm a college football and this
is this is just a worry. This isn't I don't
know if this is a problem or not. But if
the ACC, if Clemson and Florida State left and we
went down the path of the demise of that conference
similar to the Pac twelve, and then all of a sudden,
those the big the big boys, and those two are
not going to the Big twelve, the UNC, the NC State,
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the Virginia, the Florida State, the Clemson, the Miami. They
would go to the Big Ten or the SEC. And
I'm ideally, yes, yeah, I'm sure there'd be some agreement
between the Big Ten and SEC if hey, we take
this group, you take this group because they're working together.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
They're working together, No, they are working together.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
But we do have to remember like every school they
add to the mix is another mouth to feed. Oh sure,
remember remember how Oregon and them had to agree to
take less than the short term and then eventually they'll
get full membership.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
That would be I'm sure that'd be part of the
deal too. I'm just saying yeah. But what I'm saying
that if that happens, that hits the accelerator on what
we've discussed before. This is just its two conferences and
the Big Twelve becomes I think then the Big Twelve
is irrelevant at that point too. I mean, if there's
no acc I feel like the Big twelve is just
kind of what's the Big twelve? It's nothing, it truly
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is at that point. If Floria Saint Clemson find a
way out of this, we will get to a point
where it is only the Big ten, it is only
the SEC. Oh god, damn it. Aaron Murray, maybe you
were right yesterday.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Maybe maybe this maybe the the the future of college
football as we know. It is not as secure as
I potentially felt it was with this fourteen team playoff.
I'm going to be a little pretentious and I want
to read you one of my favorite quotes, and it's
about precedent, right, precedents, not presidents, but precedents plural, and
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the power the precedent. And this will be this is
like how you know, one or two school leaving all
of a sudden, everybody follows. This is from Storm Before
the Storm by Mike Duncan. This is a quote from Valais.
Patrick Cullis said quote, Precedents do not stop where they begin,
but however narrow the path upon which they enter, they
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create for themselves a highway whereon they may wonder with
the utmost latitude. And here's the key line. No one thinks,
of course, is base for himself, which has proven profitable
to others. And think about what we've seeing in college football,
that lightning strike of a news cycle where all of
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a sudden, Texas and Oklahoma are leaving the Big twelve
and going to the SEC and raw R.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
There was yelling and there was anger.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
But you know what, it proved to be profitable for
Texas and Oklahoma. So what happened next? Everybody starts to
follow suit. What's Florida State? He Clemson. Now they're trying
to hop in on that highway that is starting to
starting to gain in latitude. Right, Florida State arguing suing
the acc Well if they did it, hell if he doesn't. Right,
(24:32):
No one thinks, of course is based for himself. Well,
Clemson say we're gonna sue.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
You as well.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
So I mean it's one of my favorite quotes ever.
You should lock it in.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
But yeah, it's it's the exact path that college football
is heading down right now. So we'll see, we'll see again.
I want to hear what. I want to hear what
Clemson or excuse me, what clear Clemson has to say
about why it's been wrongfully applied?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
More go to end point eight seven five dollars this year.
Quite the pay raise from someone who was making.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
What probably five or six?
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Right, yeah, five or six again? Sorry all, I'm coming
to a little half cocked on the show. He made
four point two last season. Okay, so my man got
over double nearly triple what he was making.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
How about the biot though, how about the buyout?
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (25:30):
What what is it about? Tell me about the biot? It's
to make you happy. Of course, Alabama was gonna do
it right compared to anyone else. His buyout if he
were to leave Alabama before his contract is up, it's
five million dollars a week.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Wo wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait, but
this is if.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
He leaves, he gets ninety percent of the contract if
he's fired without cause, no mitigation, So ninety percent of
whatever part of the whatever contract he has left and
it looks like he signed how many eight year deal,
let's just say, let's knab can map.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
I guess he's not going to leave to go to
the NFL. So no.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
So so if he gets fired like in two years,
if he sucks and they want to fire him, I'm
about seventy mili.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
But I don't think Calendi bor is gonna suck, you know,
I think he's going to be.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
I don't think it's a matter of sucking. I think
it's a matter of reaching the expectations that Nick Saban
set before you. That's the problem.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
That is the exact circular conversation that people will be
having about Kaylen de Borr for the next eight months,
however long next eight years, his whole life. I mean,
it would be shocking if he can ever escape the
cloud of that.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Right. Are you surprised that he's fourth? So he's fourth,
So Dabo's one. Dado's making eleven point five million dollars
per year, Kirby and Lincoln Riley are both making eleven
million dollars, and then de bor Is right underneath them
at ten point eighth.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
So live I'm not waiting. So okay, Dabo one isn't
bit surprising. I don't not get it. But I'm also
probably pretty salty if I'm Clemson right now about it,
because he seems to be falling behind and refusing to
adapt to the times.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Who's right next to Kirby Riley Lincoln?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Ooh, you want to talk about what have you done
for me lately? That doesn't feel great. Although yeah, that's
a little unearned, but you know you're trying to get
him from Oklahoma.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
You're trying to go from the shirt thing.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
You have to pay if you want to pry somebody
out of a good spot. That's not unlike Kaylin de
borr here where. First off, if you're the Alabama coach,
or excuse me, if Alabama wants me to be their
head coach, and I know what Nick was making, I
ain't taking less than ten like I'm just not doing it.
I mean, hell, even even Washington off for nine to
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seven a year, right, so the number had to be
higher than ten. But at the same time, if I'm Alabama,
I ain't giving you a Kirby got because Kirby's got
Natties and you're great, but like, you win a Natty,
then I'll give you a raise and you'll be the
highest paid coach in the entire country. So contract makes
a lot of sense. You know why, because Jimmy Sex
was a fucking genius. Yeah, and he is the actual
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shadow lord of all of college football.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
And point and I agree, Like, listen, you you you
did just make it to the National Championship. Your resume
is incredible and we've hit on all the bullet points
of of why he deserves to be the next head
coach of Alabama. With that, the expectations are continue what
Nick Sagan's done. He has the resources I anticipated to
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be pretty damn good. I really do. I think there's
very small step back, but I think he'll have the
team competitive. I think he's making what he should be making, Like, yeah,
he should be making more than Steve Sharkisian we talked
about yesterday. Becomes the ranking coaches. He's beat Steve Sharksian
back to back, even if Steve's making ten point six.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Even if he hadn't beating Steve back to back times again,
the Alabama coach has to make over ten if you
want me to be your coach at Alabama, and I
know you're pain Nick, There's no way I'm here.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Say like, when it comes to the yeah he deserves
measuring contest, it is you're a tear below You're below
curve because you haven't won a Natty. Yes you are before.
You're ahead of Steve Sarkisian. If we're setting the bar
where you're going to fall. You're a bus star at
Steve Sarkisian.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
And again, you understand Dabbo even though he points out
just how fucking insanely hypocritical Dabbo is with all of
his thoughts and comments on paying players when he's making
eleven to five hisself, and that actually is hypocrisy, unlike
the Saban ordeal. But but but Lincoln's the big you know,
he's the odd man out there.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
My boy Sea Rob's making six hundred and fifty k.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Oh, I saw that. How about it, Bro, that's my boy.
First dude played high school together. Come on, it's that coachman.
Come up, shut out crup. I know, I know, it's
so funny because then everybody in the Spring groups like,
oh man, I got in the wrong business and I'm like, oh, really,
you just want to work twenty four fucking seven and
never have a family life or any happiness.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
That's what my mom as this year because she saw
that she was what's Sea Rob making an Alabama? And
I was like, probably like half a mill maybe a
little bit more. And she kind of mentioned the same thing,
like yeah, but I would never see my wife or kids.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Yeah, I mean like, but it's in his.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
DNA though, like Sea Rob his dad, that's him.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
My thing is you have to coaching because you love
coaching and the money, because if your motivation is money,
it's never gonna work because you don't get to spend
the money.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
You know what I'm saying, my wife does? You don't
you enjoy the money every a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
It's like in college or were used to be able
to smoke weed just for a couple of weeks a
year when they couldn't drug test you, Right, you maybe
get a couple of weeks a year, and would you
can enjoy the fruits your labor? Otherwise you are locked
in that building, grinding, tape, grinding, recruiting, just twenty four
to seven grinding, which if you love then hell yeah,
you know it's like, how about this. You want to
(30:57):
hear crazy sports that I found this morning? So I
was reading Pelican's nets played tonight. I was reading about
the nets. Ben Simmons just had back surgery. He's gonna
be out for the year again. I kind of feel
from the back surgery front sounds like a pretty brutal thing.
But Ben Simmons has made one hundred million dollars in
three years with the nets. He has barely played. If
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you look at Ben Simmons per point scored, per point scored,
he has made two hundred and seventy seven thousand dollars
per point. That means my guy hits a layup. He's
got a half a million shout for Betty five his
way to a three. That's almost a cool mel I
(31:42):
love my man wa and so again one of my
friends was like, oh man, yeah, I was chucking at
that job. I like, good mone if you get I
was like, yeah, all you have to me is like
six nine and a generational talent.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
They can handle like a five to ten guy.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
And ah man crazy though brow seventy seven k per
point per Brooklyn, the finesse king Ben Simmons. Yeah, the
unemployment King. I mean, put him on the the first
ballot Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Don't give a shit he's getting paid.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yeah, I mean, no, bro, I mean, look, hey again,
you're it's like Jalen Rose says, your worth is whatever
somebody's willing to pay you, the same thing we talk
about with all this nil stuff. And you know what,
somebody at some point said that motherfucker is good enough
for I'm gonnaive him over one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
And you know, you had to be pretty damn good if.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Somebody arrived at that decision, right, Like, you may not
have live up to it after the contract, but you
did some shit to get that contract to the first really,
So shout out to the unemployed King, and also shout.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Out to Pellace.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
I hope they smashed them that stuck on that fifty
two week PTO package.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Uh, all right, let's get in some mail bag questions. Okay, So,
as always, guys, we need a better job.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Of pushing this.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
But yeah, snaps CFB at gmail dot com, snap CFP
at gmail dot com is where you can send in
emails for mailbag Tuesdays, and then we can also get
to our chat question as well. Let's got our first
one though from Ryan s. If mascot mode is brought
back to E A n C Double A, which.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
By the way, when are we getting the.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
The the College Football Game Showcase, because I thought they
teased it around.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Hmm, okay, I'm gonna look it up.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Hold on, If mascot mode is brought back to E
A and T A, what is the best mascot matchup?
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Okay, I think about opponent.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
But for me, Aaron I was always a massive fan
of the Syracuse Orange.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Oh. This is why when they answer the dame question,
I'm Syracuse through and through the Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
I think it's always the best Falk answer.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
It's just a bunch of Eric Manginies running around the
big round fat Fox just out there make can play.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
So I like the Orange. I like as you see
on the screen. I like the Duck for Miami. I
like the Buckeye from Ohio State. Those are kind of
my three, my three go tos if I'm going mascot mode.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Okay, the Duck's a good one. I like, uh, what's
whats Okahoma States?
Speaker 2 (34:16):
The cowboy?
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Yeah, cowboys with this big mustache and it's like Chaps.
There's kind of wide legged stance that one running around
is always tight.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
The elephant Alabama's great al couck. Hm, wait when is that?
When is that showcase going down? Though? Uh, I don't know.
I'm gonna have to look at that original. Uh this
I do?
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Yeah, yeah, okay, actually that's the answer. Okay, okay, sorry
early may My bad, I'm jumping the gun guys. New
teas are new for earlier my thank you PG. All right,
so we're sorry. I got, I got, I got a
little pumped up there. No, that's the answer. In Stanford
Tree versus Syra two strange. Yeah, those big stupid ass
googly eyes against those big round Eric Mangini orange men.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
It's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
I would have to imagine that you would, you would.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Bring back mascot mode. Right, yeah, I don't know why
you win it. Next mail back question.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
By the way, if you want to get questions in
the chat as well, you can just do like a
hashtag snaps mailbag. Uh, this comes to Troy R. Well
deone Sanders win a national championship in the next five
to ten years and what school of the be at
the next five to ten years?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Uh, Willie win one the next five ten years, I
would say no. If he does win one, though it
will be at Florida.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
I'm gonna say no because I think, what, there's like
three guys that are gonna well, I guess it's kind
of wide open feeling. It felt like for a while
there that there were maybe like one or two, maybe
three that were gonna win Natties.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Any way, next five to ten years. Kirby would definitely
be on the list.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
I think Brian wins one eventually, that will shoe Brian Day.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I would say Ryan even before Brian, I would go Kirby,
Bryan Day, maybe then Kelly.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Given the last three and l I.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
I don't think. I think if Ryan Day doesn't get
it done this year, then I would flip it and
say b k. But those are the big three. Like
if you had to say which three coaches are gonna
win National Champion of the next ten years, I mean.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
In that list absolutely.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
He just played for one at Washington, so you know
we got to make that a forsome Like Kylen Moore
has to be on that list as well the next
five to ten years.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
I feel very confident that, but I don't feel great about.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Like Mike Norvel. I think Mike Norvell at Florida State
has an opportunity to be competitive, especially if they stayed
in the ECC.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
I would have Mike Norvel like the first on my
O L I outside looking in. Yes, i would have
the Big four, and then I'd have Mike Norvel chief
among the rest. Sark yep, Sark could be right there
with Norvel.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
I mean it, just where do you put Dion. Dion's
kind of towards the bottom of it.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
It's too ten now in double digits. I I would
be lying if I said that the finish and that
it's function with his oc Elliott and some of the
other coach staff. Like, Dion had such a strong and
disciplined start out of that Colorado team, and to have
all these guys that were thrown together in gel In
the way that they did it was so impressive early on.
(37:27):
But I'd be lying if I said he didn't lose
a little bit of its luster as they kind of
faltered down the stretch. And I'm still betting on Dion
long term to be a very good college coach. I
don't know that I can sit here and bank on
a Natty in the next five to ten though that
feels maybe a step too far right now.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
I agree. I agree because he's not gonna get He's
not gonna win a Natty at Colorado, and if he
does go somewhere, he's gonna have to rebuild it a
little bit. I mean, just there's there's the timing aspect.
I'm not saying you can't rebuild fast. He did that
at Colorado. He can easily do that at another location
that that has more resources than the Buffs do. But
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there's just too many other great coaches out there. I
just I think he's a little bit behind.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
A case since Dion doesn't recruit.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
I mean, that is true, man, Dion does not do
high school recruiting, and he's done pretty good in the portal,
but nothing overwhelming. Like he's trying to go full lane Kiffin.
I wonder if you can win a Natty going full length.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
So I also wonder too, there's there's a couple of
things that go to that.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
One.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Does he truly think that he's going to stay past
his son leaving Colorado? So if you're not, then why
would you waste time on recruiting high school kids into
How easy is it to recruit high school kids to
Colorado Portal. Guys, it all depends same thing with Lane
at Ole Miss. You're trying to recruit high school kids
(38:50):
against Kirby. Yeah, no, I clear. I think you choose
your lane. You gotta choose your lane. No pun intended. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Now I'm with you that, And I want to be clear,
I'm not saying that Lane is saying I'm not in
high school kids.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
I think, yeah, I think, well with Lane, you never know.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
But but yes, I think at Old Miss to reach
the heights that he has, I think he's doing it
the way that you would have to, which I guess.
I guess Dion has just been more upfront than even
Lane has been about like he really just does not
care about high school recruiting, which does feel a bit flawed.
Maybe if he goes to Florida that changes. Uh, he's
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going to need a ball out though. Okay, Colorado's in
a pretty good spot here. Uh, just in that the
Big twelve doesn't have superpowers left you already beat TCU
last year? Can he finish middle upper pack? Like? How
many teams are in the Big Twelve this year? Are
we finally back to twelve?
Speaker 2 (39:48):
I believe. I believe what number what number would would
if Florida does want to move on? What number would
you think he has to hit to put his name
in the seven eight wins? That's and they go after him,
but just to be in consideration because they're not gonna
hire him, at least has to make a bullet.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
You can't go seven and six and get that job
and get the Florida job, right, that's insanity.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Yeah, I would think so.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
And even then people are gonna be worried about what
he had Shaduri had, Travis Hunter.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
What's he gonna do post shudder? Like Deonte complicated.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Candidate in the short term. I think long term he'll
make himself very attractive. But Florida's timeline is likely next season, right.
I think the Big twelve now has like sixteen teams
in the conference yop. Yeah, because they were at fourteen
last year. But Texans all will leave but you add
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the four corners, so yeah, I think we're up to
sixteen teams now.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Yeah, Dion Mnina finish in.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
The upper half of the sixteen. George's I don't think
people care all flash, no sizzle. In my honest opinion,
I think see that's the I think Dion has the substance.
I think that I think that their whole year looks
different if they don't let Eyamnor go off for three
hundred yards and beat them in that Stanford game. Everything
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feels different. They hit the over on all their season
win totals the original four and a half, and it's
just yeah, it all kind of fell apart after that.
Greg says he would lock down Florida. Maybe maybe so,
uh Steph Spielback, lee pH lance l oh lipol to Florida,
says Jeff Rawlings. I mean, I would give like Leipold's
(41:39):
getting a bit up there age wise, but you would
have to look at You would have to look at
Leipold very seriously. Chris Cleman is another name that's gonna
come constantly these conversations. Plus they're kind of being cucked
in the Big twelve a little bit, right. I think
you think Whittingham, Waitdingham just feels so maybe stuck isn't
the right word, wouldn't just feels so you taughed through
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and through.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
I know, but especially if there is some real lakes
of this whole acc thing and it does go start
going the way of what we're talking about, Like you
you have to start even looking at an exit plan
if you're a coach at that point too. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
No, one wants to get left of the kid's table.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
No, even though I was like the kid's table and
Thanksgiving personally me, you'dn't have to sit down a song
and get to kind of go play around.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Maybe like eat a little bit, go out, go come
backing in and eat a little bit. Laurie. H love you, Laura. Uh.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
If you had to live in a time period before
this one, when would you choose to live? You are
still a white male, don't worry. Yeah, I mean you know,
I don't know. I'm watching Showgun right now, and it
doesn't seem like it pays to be a white male
and Showgun.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
Showgun's fucking awesome.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
By the way, what is that on a new shows dude? FX.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Apparently it's based on an old book I believe in
the eighties, and there's been a movie or TV series
on it before. But if you're looking at for something
to fill the Game of Thrones, political intrigue, hyper violence,
like maneuvering, just wonderfulness, Showguns awesome.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
So it's on Hulu because Hulu is FX and whatnot.
You know you can show nipple on FX.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Now nice? How crazy is that?
Speaker 1 (43:22):
I mean, I love it. I don't know why we're
so hung up with the female nipple to begin with.
But time period before this one, here's here's here's how
I always answer this. Do I have knowledge of today's
time when I go back?
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Right?
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Because if I do, I don't want to go back
in time at all. You know, Like I like having
pants that stretch, I like air conditioning. I fucking love
video games. I love the Internet. I love computers. If like,
uh yeah, yeah, PG says, I don't think you can
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for the premise to work. Yeah, okay, so we're saying
you just choose a time period and you're just gonna
be in that time period.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Then yes, no knowledge, Okay, I am gonna go.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
I kind of want to go to the late seventies
and just like like doing drugs, shoes. Yeah, just do
like smoke a lot of weed and like play football
and like have sex with one girl, but then not
have a cell phone and maybe even have sex with
a second girl.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
You know, I'm just dreaming large here.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
I'm a big fan of the Pirates of the Caribbean,
you know whatever that time is as a pirate in
the Caribbean, Like, that's kind of where I'm feeling it
a little bit. But this is what it's on an
island as a pirate, drinking, fucking you know what? You know?
What you mean? What do you mean? What is the
pirate lifestyle?
Speaker 1 (44:45):
What you got rotted teeth, horrible hygiene, You're on a phone,
no one knows, but no one knows with the boys,
you're probably.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Yeah, but there's three or three months where you're kind
of on an island just fucking just being a degenerate.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
You're eating fuck, you got scurvy, You're trying to eat
lemon ride, You're eating nothing else, biscuits.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Know nothing else, you know nothing else.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, see seventies and eighties, lots of cocaine
and sex.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
I mean, look, I now I love fantasy stuff right
like I love you do. I could see now, almost
says Aaron's you pretty to make it as a pirate,
But you do have a swashbuckling sense about you. Maybe
that's the quarterback and the Tampa in you. I know
that Tampa loves pirates. The gas I love really want
to go to Gaspareilla Festival one day. That's on my
(45:35):
bucket list. But hmm, family trip, let's go. I mean,
I do love I love Roman history too. Yeah, so
probably second on my list would be maybe like Rise
of the Roman Empire, like Augustus. Like I remember reading
(45:55):
about this one guy, and I can't remember his exact
time period in the Roman Empire, but this how advanced
they got back then.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
This motherfucker's whole.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
Job was to just make badass oyster beds for super
rich people's villas like that. That would that that would
actually be insane if if you lived all way back
then and and you you you had a job, like
you don't have to fight.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
You're basically just like a landscape architect.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
You know what your you know what I should be
based on my my just degenerate itself. I need to
be in what's the place that essentially got destroyed because
of volcano prior to the volcano?
Speaker 1 (46:37):
Oh uh Pompey pump pump pump, Yeah, take me back
to the prime POMPEII.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
Why why you want to die in a volcano.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
Prime before the volcano?
Speaker 1 (46:49):
Oh, you just want to live in like a badass
Roman city. Yeah, that's basically what I'm getting at as well. Like,
if you were a well off Roman, your quality of
life was in some ways a high than ours now.
Basically it's because of slavery.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
Now.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
Unlike the Atlantic slave trade, which is unique in that
it was racially based and fucking awful in that way,
slavery in Roman times was more of just I don't
care where you're from, what color you are. I took
over your people, like, sorry, you work for me. Now
eventually maybe you get your freedom, blah blah. It was different, right,
but yeah, you would just have slaves doing everything for
(47:24):
you if you are well off Roman, which you get
sounds very fucked up, and it is fucked up. Yeah,
but like you, if I had somebody to feed me
grapes all the time, she just drink wine all the time.
H When did you want to go to the future instead?
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Why?
Speaker 1 (47:40):
So I can just see a bombed out apocalypse of
death after we blow this planet up or eat it away.
I still feel like two. There's like I love this
is one I can never square. I love medieval times.
I don't know that I have any desire to live
in medieval times. It just seems like the shittiest time
I'm possibly alife, flag, death, uncleanliness, sword fighting, dark, smoky rooms, yes,
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but yeah, outside of that, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
No, no death, and poop everywhere in Rome. Yeah, poop everywhere.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
I mean, that's just like anytime you go back in
history anywhere, just poop everywhere, though, you know.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
Yeah, I would have been paying grain try grain.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
Tithes my fucking my, my, my, my vassal lord, just
be a little surf serving him up. Yeah, I agreed, Locke.
Anytime for air conditioning and plumbing is out for me.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Yeah, but you fucking don't know. You don't know well.
Speaker 3 (48:40):
And again, if you're well off en up in Roman times,
you will have plumbing.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
Yeah. So here's that. Let's do this.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
Uh, get your questions in the chat and we'll get
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Speaker 1 (50:30):
Jeff rawlins, what about the college football year that you
can go back and play durham Oo again?
Speaker 3 (50:37):
I would go late seventies.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
There was something about the late seventies early eighties era
of football, and maybe just I've heard too many of
my dad stories, but it just seemed like such a
work hard, play hard kind of time, and I love
to show. There's a book, It Never Rains in Tiger Stadium,
written by John ed Bradley. One of my favorite stories.
They talk about USC coming to play LSU, and I
(50:59):
think it was in seventy eight somewhere around there. Sometimes
in seventies USC comes to play LSU, and they describe
these USC players exiting the locker room only to find
a giant fucking Bengal tiger right outside of their locker,
roaring in its cage because that's what they used to
(51:20):
do to Mike. They put him outside the opponent's locker
room and and like kind of taze them up a
little bit and get them all frisky balls. Yeah, And
it makes me think, like, how fascinating would it be
in a pre Internet age where maybe you're looking at magazines,
you're seeing like a news report about Louisiana every now
and then you're from Los Angeles, born and raised. All
(51:41):
of a sudden, you're fucking bat rouge with you know,
seventy eighty Halver Many was thousands screaming Insaye Louisianians and
a giant Bengal tiger yelling at you.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
What a wildlife experience.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
I saw the other day with speaking of usc Linett
was talking about playing in the early two thousands part
to the phones. H I forgot what I think. He
was on Edelman Show and they were talking about He's like, dude,
we were going out with the celebrities in LA because
everyone went to the same clubs and we were like
subburies because no one had like phones and people weren't
taking pictures. He's like, dude, I'm going out with like
(52:15):
Kid Rock and this celeb and like Leon Leonardo DiCaprio.
I'm like, dude, you're going out with fucking Leo. You're
the starting car. Back at USC. I mean, yeah, I
can see it. That's a wild that's a wild deo,
that could be dangerous. So like that seemed like a
good time. What I mean, hell, today, I would I would.
I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I'd kick the tires around with today,
knowing that I could be making you know, seven figures
(52:37):
is pretty sexy. That's true.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
Yeah, Greg Henders says, I go back to eighteen nineties,
have a badass horse. Uh yeah, that's also Cowboys. I
like Cowboy Times Power of the Dogs, very good cowboy
movie you should watch. Yeah, no, I mean true, Aaron,
I'd actually probably go to today because I'd make more
money than I make as an adult, and it probably well, well,
I probably may have fucked up my whole life.
Speaker 3 (53:00):
If I didn't fuck.
Speaker 1 (53:01):
It up, it would have given you a really great
way to start your life out on. Yeah, step smail back,
what food and items are your followers leaving at the
feet of your shrine?
Speaker 3 (53:11):
Ask goat dogs.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
So of course Nick Saban's followers left to oatmeal, cream
pies and diet cokes. For me, it would be sesame
seed chicken cigarettes. Okay, guys, I don't like Yes, I
love tobacco, Okay, but I do not want to paint
an accurate picture.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (53:30):
I do not smoke often. I maybe enjoy on average
one cigarette a week. It is a treat that I
give myself.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
So no, you would not leave cigarettes at my shrine.
You would leave sesame seed, chicken and marijuana is what
you would leave at my feet. The cheeky sick thank
you PG.
Speaker 3 (53:47):
That's all it is. It's just it's like it's like
in a House of cards.
Speaker 1 (53:51):
Yeah, before we all started hating Kevin Spacey, how him
and his wife would smoke a cigarette at the end
of like the day or something.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
Nice bottle of wine and some pot roast. We know
it's not going to be a beer. People.
Speaker 1 (54:06):
Just you mean to leave into straight pow roast, straight
pot roast? Yeah, your favorite food, just like great ye
served over served over rice, maroni la music. What super
villain would you compare Dabo to? Who's the most uh?
(54:30):
What's the word I'm looking for when somebody really grates
on your nerves? Who's the most pretentious super villain?
Speaker 3 (54:38):
He would be He would be one of those super villains.
Speaker 1 (54:40):
And I'm not coming up the villain, right now, But
I do have a villain archetype, you know, where you
have the bad guys that are so obsessed with being
good that they're like, we have to like you know,
it's like they're they're they're they're fanatics essentially right like
any toe out of line and you deserve to die
because this is how it should be and this is
(55:00):
the right way to do things. So so he's like
like a religious zealot that has lost his way and
is willing to kill for what he views as being right.
Someone in Game of Thrones, wait and for what, oh
for Dabbo be a Game of Thrones.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
I feel like someone that that type of villain in
a show like that, where you have the power, you
play by the rules.
Speaker 1 (55:31):
I'm trying to think of who oh uh maybe like
a Stanisparathian is not unlike that. He was someone who
was uber committed to the rules, uh to a fault
until he kind of peacemaker says your.
Speaker 2 (55:44):
PA's little.
Speaker 1 (55:46):
Nah nah no, No, little finger is a fucking schemer.
Little finger is uh sext in climbing up the ranks
to take everything over. A little finger is someone who
does it in the shadows, not not Dabo u Da
would be Monarch from the Venture Bros. I don't know
if you've ever seen Venture Bros. But I really like
the Monarch answer actually quite a bit. Chicken Bow News
(56:11):
wants to know what kind of wine Aaron Boons Farm.
Speaker 2 (56:13):
That's a little cab. That's a little plant planet. Trip
right now to uh to Napple with the wife in
May to a T ball movie solo while I'm getting drunk.
Speaker 1 (56:23):
But Napa calv Napa cab the uh? Do you ever
get a prisoner out of Austin? I have some that's
in prisoner before is Hope is Hope out Austin?
Speaker 2 (56:35):
But I like prisoners out of I think prison is
out of California though.
Speaker 1 (56:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean dumb. I think hope Hope
is out of Austin also very good. But if I
want to treat myself a bottle of prisoners kind of
my go do you want to my one time I
drank boons Farm?
Speaker 2 (56:47):
What happened?
Speaker 1 (56:49):
I never met Boon so I never drank boons Farm
in high school. I never drank wine. A lot of
my Louisiana Dejon friends did grown up. It looks like
blue kool aid just ridiculous wine. But uh, we were
drinking a ship ton of Boons Farm and that night
I put in two horseshoe dips. I filled my entire
bottom lip with dip, and I filled my entire upper
(57:10):
lip with dip, and then I tried smoking a cigarette
at the same time. I pewked everywhere, and I threw
up so hard that I popped all the blood vessels
in my face, and I looked like a freak. I
looked like I looked like Lois Griffin and that episode
of Family Guy when she doesn't ever makeup on it
(57:31):
was it was just really unsettling looking.
Speaker 2 (57:39):
Fun show. Oh that is that what you're trying to
do here? Yeah? Is that what you're trying to do here?
What do you mean? Hey?
Speaker 1 (57:46):
Alvo mars Way And guess what, dude, I started watching
a new anime last night.
Speaker 2 (57:49):
You're a fucking asshole.
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And it's on, Uh what is it on? Oh, It's
on Max And I can't remember the name of it.
It's like kid O Kaikouni or something.
Speaker 2 (57:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (57:58):
It's bad ass, though, is an His wife and son
get killed and next thing you know, he's just doing
crazy ninja shit.
Speaker 3 (58:06):
One day, I'll finish Demon Slayer. All right, we'll do it.
We'll do it, all.
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That's what it is, all right.
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
Yo, what's up everybody? Welcome?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Man, I met some red beans. Just left a field
trip with my daughter and very fun. She goes to
school on Elision's campus, like place you high. And so
we got to uh, we're going to tour the LSU
locker rooms.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Oh yeah, go on Tiger Stadium, Death Ballly, you know,
Death Valley. I'm gonna be one hundred years old this year.
Air and so a new bigger video board. Got some
LED lights coming in.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Wait, y'all are behind the LED light game? Come on, tee,
what's going on?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I know I am, and you know I think Look,
I think it can be overdone. But also I think
LED lights are actually objectively pretty tight. Yes, like it's
it's really cool. I don't love it when it goes
like black in the stadium. All the still is kind
of a site to a hoaxer. Remind you how dark
it is actually outside when these games are being played
without the genius of human ingenuity. But like when Alabama,
(01:09):
I don't know how Georgiana does it, but when Alabama
paints that shit red and Nick Saban was standing on
the sideline, I mean that was some real intimidating like evil.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Empire type stuff. That's that's the good stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
So I'm looking forard to Elsho because I don't know
how many purples I've seen from the led lights.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
You know, No, I don't think at first, that's what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I don't feel like I've ever seen anything just swathed
and bathed in purple.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
That's what as I asked, like, how intimidating is purple?
It is royalty. It is the color of royalty. So
that's pretty sweet. Scott and the chat out of Boy
eight ninety three.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Hoddle can look you can look a little uh what
I'm not actually, I'm not even gonna ask.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
M Yeah, you could look a little.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I mean, purple could look a little alien like a
little intimidating, right. I think it'd be real tight if
somebody was green. Is anybody green in the sec? Actually no,
because that would be I mean, that would be that
real like otherworldly alien like the Pelicans. I have these
(02:15):
uniforms that are like the shadow Man from a Princess
and the Frog. You know, they've got these They've called
them the skeletons. It's got like a Pelican skeleton and
it's all that kind of sickly green of voodoo. And
when you're playing the badass basketball the Pelicans are. It's
really tight looking and they do this like green smoke thing.
(02:36):
Before the UF could do green? Could Florida do green?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Is the orange of blue? He's the first one?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, but they I mean alligators are green though.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah. I know your point. You could maybe that's the
closest one.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Surfer Boy says they're way too drunken Death Valley to
do the lights too heavy, you would scare of the
swamp people. I look, Uh do you have solo? It's
intimidating when you have over one hundred thousand until you
just suck that tiger dick bitch?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah, it would? I mean that that that would? I love?
Is that? Is? That? Is that truly? Does everyone know
what stt dB means? Yeah? That's what that means? Wow? Yeah,
I was like, what the what is stt Oh?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
See what suck that dick bitch? Okay, there we go. Wow.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
And of course it's somewhat problematic. Uh, if you wanted
to argue in favor of it, you would say that
the bitch is not gender specific.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
But you know, you're kind of.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I don't know that said, it does seem to be
one of the cheers that gets both the males and
females going in the stadium.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
For whatever it's worth.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
That's why you can no longer play neck, though, because
that's what the entire stadium would yell when they would
play neck, which is just insane to hear ninety thousand
adults yelling that hit the like.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Bud Yo, where were at? We have fifteen? No, so close?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Fourteen nine? Okay, guys, fourteen more. We got to get
to fifteen by Thursday. We've got a couple of days here.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Oh shit.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
John Schult really wants us to mention Tony Alford leaving
Ohio State for Michigan. Have you read about Tony Alford
leaving Ohio State for Michigan? Aaron that the.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Coach was that the coach? Okay, So I gotta be honest, John.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
He's been hit me up on Twitter talking about this,
and I apologize because I know it's an interesting story.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I have not locked you up yet.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
In fact, today's show in general, I'm glad it's mail
bag day and it will be taking questions from the chat.
Why not, because I you know, normally I like to
do a lot of prep for the shows. This is
kind of a coming in hot day for your boy.
As I was at the field trip my daughter, a
ton of fun. We go through the locker room. Tiger
stayed way nicer than when I played next day, and
(04:56):
then uh yeah, we had like a little picnic out
there and then I headed straight over here. Aaron, do
you know how HUEP. Long got Tiger Stadium to be
so big back in the day.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
No, he was back in the thirties.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
He built dorms into the stadium so that you could
justify it was either further expenses or size or whatever, like,
you could justify spending on it because technically you were
a state school spending on student housing. So my grandpa
back in the fifties actually lived in Tiger Stadium.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
During his first couple of years at LSU. It's pretty awesome.
And I got into the actual stadium from your dorm
like in the sense of going to the field.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Oh when you look, when you look at Tiger Stadium
next time, look at the windows on the lower level
and then understand those are all dormsty And and when
that hype video that I filmed for Tennessee before else
you got their ass kicked two years ago. We actually
got the film that in those dorm rooms and they've
been abandoned since like the seventies and bro, that shit
was crazy.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
It was like, what's in there?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Nothing, It's just like some decrepit, like walking dead type stuff.
I mean, they've ripped down, lockdown most of the walls.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
That's just the sold just old.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
You can just feel the history in that building.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
It's crazy. You could feel all the all of the
when we get it one more time, the STTDB going
on in those rooms, right.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
And there was certainly a lot of that in the seventies.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
That was a lot of it in the seventies and forties, fifties.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I wonder how much how I wonder when blowjobs kind
of hit their popularity inflection point, right, Like in the
fifties were blowjobs a big deal?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Are we are we here?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Here's what I.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Always think about because it feels recent, right, it feels like,
are you know, are recent?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Well?
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I don't know, That's what I'm saying, Like, do you
think in the fifties people were getting blow.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Jobs and giving them? Well, I just feel like rap
music has definitely made it seem more popular, but I
think it's always.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Happened thing that I would have tied rap music specifically
as a reason for increased filatio.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Wow, I don't hear like the disco music back in
the day talking about given pjs. Uh, I think it's
so much more. I think it's like you're like a
twelve year old kid listening to the rap in your
mom's car, and all of a sudden the rappers something like,
it's just it's more common, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Uh, well, yes, I would say that, yes, we've become
sexualized as society more like, I would agree with that.
I just wonder in the fifties this filatio was a
normal thing for college kids to perform one another. I mean,
certainly something like Animal House maybe point to it being so.
But Scott Dice, is this true? He says he has
sex with one of the Spanish teachers in those dorm
(07:41):
rooms and he was at LSU work out. Scott, it's
pretty pretty cool, all right. Sorry, I don't know how this.
I don't know how this starts.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Serve voices.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Aaronst knows what HB T F D means. I'm afraid
of what that means. Do you know what that means?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I don't. I swear I've seen it a million times.
Probably don't still know what it means.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Such a nerd dude, look at you, all right. So
on today's show, we now know Kaylin de Boor's salary.
So there's what it's kind of one of the great
pastime of sports is talking about another man's money, and
so we'll get into that.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
We also have Clemson a.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Day after Aaron Murray told you the fight in the
acc was not over, which I ought to be clear,
I never said the fight was over, but.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
We didn't do it. No, I didn't. I know. You're
just gonna paint it this way. Just take the lt
just take it out.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I'm not I'm not. Go dog says it's how about
them fucking dogs? Come on, dude, get it, get up, dude.
Lockez's filati has been happening for the longest humans been around.
There's references to it from ancient Peru and classical room. No, okay,
to be fair, I know, like if human beings could
put something in their mouth that feels good good, like
(09:01):
I know we've been doing that. I guess I mean
more culturally, here in America, right, because we see, you know,
we were formed with these Puritan ideals and we're very
fussy about sex, and so I'm just more wondering, like,
if I went out in the fifties, would you have
a chance of meeting someone and later that night maybe
(09:23):
giving kinlingis or receiving filatio.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
I just wonder.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I mean, certainly, I would imagine it's more common today,
but I don't know. Maybe some of the old heads
can help us out.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
A little bit.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
But either way, like, I'm pretty sure a lot of
that was likely both kinnn of lingis and filatia were
going on in spades in those old dorm rooms, I
would imagine. All Right, so you just want to dive
into the Clemson one first, and since you seem to
want a victory lap over it, I.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Would love to start the show by victory lapping all
over you. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Okay, So Clemson has filed a lawsuit against the ACC,
which means the conference is now facing lawsuits from both
Clemson and Florida State. Aaron, yesterday, I said that the
fourteen team playoff keeps college football together, and you said that, well,
(10:10):
but the ACC's fight is not over yet right, And
of course Clemson's finding this lawsuit because they just basically
got forced to agree to a deal in which they
will receive half the money each year out of the
TV revenue of the schools that they will be directly
competing with. So what's your interpretation of this lawsuit then,
mister smart guy.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Well, I mean the interpretation is that they want out,
There's no doubt about it. I mean they see the
money being lost once again to the Big ten, to
the SEC, the sitting in the room with the decision makers,
knowing that you're at the kids table and the big
ten in the SEC at the adult table. Like, that's
not a good feeling if you're Florida State or Clemson
(10:51):
or the Carolinas or Miami, like you view your brand
as one of the biggest brands in college football, yet
you are not in charge of the next director in
the next phase of college football. And it's humbling, it's frustrating.
I'd be pissed off as hell. Florida State obviously has
voiced their concerns for a couple of years.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Now.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Clemson here and there is somewhat voiced it. Now this
is their real big push, saying like, enough's enough already.
So I mean, when you look at it, and I'm
looking at the peat damn article that just came out
on ESPN, and you see unenforceable when it comes to
the grant of rights, uh language you agree in.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
It, you're saying that's what Clemson. What is Clemson trying
to argue. They're trying to argue the granted rights should
be unenforceable.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yes, the grant of rights and exifies calling the withdrawal
penalty unenforceable.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I mean, I guess we'll see. From what I read
in that on three article, it looks like Clemson's been
working on this as long as Florida State has. They've
just been doing it in the shadows, more and more
so than Florida State's very vocal efforts.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I guess, though.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
My reaction is, does this change anything if Florida State
hasn't found a way out yet, if Clemson hasn't found
a way out, Like I still don't. It feels like
they have an angle they're taking, But I don't know
that it sounds like that they have a legal slam.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I don't think they do. No, No, I don't think
they do, or they would have already taken that route
and moved like forestate would have been gone a year
ago if they could have gone out this grand of rights.
I think it is ironclad. I think it is very difficult,
almost impossible to get out of it. I think they're
not going the route of how do we make a
circus out of this and pressure the ACC into doing something.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
So yeah, So here's here's a direct quote from Clemson's
lawsuit quote. Without a judicial declaration of its legal rights,
which have been openly challenged by the ACC, Clemson is
unable to pursue a wide range of strategic alternatives that
may be necessary for its continued success in collegiate athletics
and as an institution. By espousing an inaccurate interpretation of
(12:56):
the granted rights agreements and allowing that interpretation to polarily
proliferate throughout the media, the ACC has cost a cast
a harmful cloud of doubt on Clipson's ability to engage
in meaningful discussions with other conferences and media providers regarding
potential future collaborations, and or to negotiate alternative revenue sharing
(13:17):
proposals among ACC members. For Clipson to move ahead and
ensure that it may continue to act in further in
so its institutional message mission that cloud must be lifted.
So to me, not being a lawyer, just being somebody
who had to play to red beans, I think the
key here. So obviously they're trying to argue that, like
(13:41):
they said, their their ability to negotiate these TV contracts,
talk to other conferences about where they bring to the
conference have been hindered, that people aren't interested in dealing
with them because well, they think they're not allowed to
deal with them. I think the key line is here,
by espousing an inaccurate interpretation of the grant of right
now agreements, that is doing a lot of heavy lifting,
(14:04):
Like that's what Clemson and Florida State are going to
have to prove. You're telling me it's an inaccurate interpretation.
How you know, because they're saying they're basically saying, well,
the ACC's painting this inaccurate picture, this false picture, and
then they're telling everybody about everybody's accepting it.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
But that's not the case.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
But they still haven't told us necessarily why that's not
the case.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
I mean, do you know the fact, like if if
there was a way to get out like this this,
this interpretation would have been brought to light by now
and Florida State would be farther along the path of
exiting the a CEC.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Well, that's why it feels like a That's why it
feels like a play, you know. That's what it's like A.
It's like it's it's a deep ball here. Yeah, they're
they're maybe made. Their lawyers have likely tried to find
some way of a phrase of framing the terms of
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the granted right agreements to try to present a loophole. Now,
maybe they feel because like I said, they've been operating
the shadows more Southern Florida State has right, So maybe
they feel like like they've they've really crafted something good
here and they're waiting to release it as the kind
of look and here's what the case actually is.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
I would say this to my understanding, and I find this.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
To be so funny and so incredible, But to my understanding,
you cannot look at the grant of rights agreement that
the ACC has online, like I believe as a lawyer,
they will not send you the documents. I remember reading
that the only way to study the documents is to
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actually go to the ACC offices. Is to send your
like it's the declaration of independence, is to send your
lawyers to the offices to read the exact copy. Maybe
I'll try to look that up and double check, but
in my head that I'm just imagining.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Like, Okay, somebody asked me what's.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I would I would say, and this is just from
all my years of watching suits. Unless the lawsuit is
put forward, then they don't technically have to present it
to you. Uh what Once Once the lawsuit is presented,
then then you know, obviously you go through discovery. It's
like I want to be lawyer over here. You go
through discovery and then you have to then send everything
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you have you maybe then you have to.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
So maybe I'm wrong on that. I feel like I
remember next. I was just tickled to death by it.
Like somebody asked, what's better, Return of the Jedi, return
of the King. I mean, for me, it's Return of
the King. I love Lord of the Rings. And when
I think about a grant of rite agreement that you
can only read in person, I think about Gandalf when
he rides to menace tier If and he's got like
the the the clouds of smoke ringed around his head
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and He's just rifling through scrolls and papers trying to
find a seal door's writings on the ring to see
if the ring that Froto has is indeed the one
ring like that.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Those are Limpson's lawyers deep in the bowels of ACC headquarters,
trying to figure out a way to free their people
from the clutches of ACC oppression.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I guess like Game of Thrones when your twin, your
twin had to ride to Sam Tarley. Yes, Sam had
to go ride to go find out the true secrets
of uh you know, the true the true Yeah, what
was he looking for?
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Me?
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Who's looking to try to heal gray scale?
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Right? Yes, just try to heal gray scale, which you know.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
If you could heal grayscale that early easily, it probably
wouldn't be that big of a deal. But but whatever,
that's that's that's either here nor there. See somebody said
you tuned out. No, Aaron was just getting his own
fantasy analogy ready, Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Get my dog some credit.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Okay, was not as was not as smooth as T Bobs,
But I got a little little nerdy there.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Tommy says Murray, putting those nine seasons of suits to
good use is Now, are you learned about discovery?
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I am. I am married to an attorney, so I
do listen to hervy.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Now that was no, So he has the actual legal
So we need to bring Sharon Murray in on this
and we can get actual legal advice.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
So here's where I'm at with this story.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
I don't know that this moves it forward for me
in any significant way until I see Clemson's specific argument
as to how the grant of rights is being inaccurately
interpreted and how it's being inaccurately applied, and then we
can judge on our own merit. Do we think that
this argument has well? First off, does it have like
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does it pass the general public sniff test? I won't
even get into a legal stiff test. We can talk
to a lawyer about that. But I want to know,
like if I hear their argument and I'm like, oh, okay,
you know what, maybe there's something there actually, because right
now I it seems like, I mean, I completely understand
why they're upset, and I completely understand that, yes, their
ability to negotiate their future is being capped and is
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being controlled, and that's got to be incredibly frustrating, but
I mean it also looks like they signed a.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
You signed it, damn it, you signed a contract. I'm
not saying I'm numb to it, because I do think
you get enough enough powerful people to the table that
maybe you can make some sort of movement in the
right direction. But until something is presented to me that
goes above and beyond just trying to use big words
in an ESPN article, it's hard for me to feel
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like there is a path out of this grant of rights.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
I just have not been present only fact, I always
feel like lawyers are skilled enough and like you're kind
of getting that where there's enough money or enough will,
there's a way. But it's so life or death for
the ACC that it may not actually be the case,
right because if the ACC loses these two teams start,
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they're gonna start to smell like the PAC twelve a bit.
I don't know if I think there are one hundred
percent done, but but if you lose these two then
I imagine, oh that that that quote about precedence, then
I love so much. But like, if if you lose
these two, then I imagine the door will open for
you and C we know is Miami by uh the
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sec U, Yeah, Miami, Virginia. Getting those markets are attractive
to the conferences. So yeah, I do feel you this
almost feels like a little it could be like you're
walking on the ice right now. It is the pe
it just shatters.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
I mean the Pac twelve lost, you know, they lost
Los Angeles. Then you lose Oregon and in Washington and
then from there it was just like flagates are open,
We're out of here. Because at that point, like where's
the deal to be made when it comes to creating
any sort of revenue for the remaining schools, Like why
would they stay when it was all said and done?
So yeah, you see knows if you lose your two
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big two, your your big two, kind of like losing
Washington Oregon, but you can't stand on these the other
teams and hope to survive. Now.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
I would think though that wouldn't necessarily change the fourteen
team playoff beyond these automatic qualifiers getting getting just split
up and divvied up among other conferences or going to
at large bids, right Like, I see no reason why
because like the Big twelve would likely just be like whoa, guys,
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what the fuck we didn't do anything, you know, yeah, it.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Was just ecuse.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
But then again, I don't know, like if there's legally's
in there, and it's not even finalized yet, so we
definitely don't.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Know the But to me, to me, the one worry
I would have if I'm a college football and this
is this is just a worry. This isn't I don't
know if this is a problem or not. But if
the ACC, if Clemson and Florida State left and we
went down the path of the demise of that conference
similar to the Pac twelve, and then all of a sudden,
those the big the big boys, and those two are
not going to the Big twelve, the UNC, the NC State,
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the Virginia, the Florida State, the Clemson, the Miami. They
would go to the Big Ten or the SEC. And
I'm ideally, yes, yeah, I'm sure there'd be some agreement
between the Big Ten and SEC if hey, we take
this group, you take this group because they're working together.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
They're working together, No, they are working together.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
But we do have to remember like every school they
add to the mix is another mouth to feed. Oh sure,
remember remember how Oregon and them had to agree to
take less than the short term and then eventually they'll
get full membership.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
That would be I'm sure that'd be part of the
deal too. I'm just saying yeah. But what I'm saying
that if that happens, that hits the accelerator on what
we've discussed before. This is just its two conferences and
the Big Twelve becomes I think then the Big Twelve
is irrelevant at that point too. I mean, if there's
no acc I feel like the Big twelve is just
kind of what's the Big twelve? It's nothing, it truly
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is at that point. If Floria Saint Clemson find a
way out of this, we will get to a point
where it is only the Big ten, it is only
the SEC. Oh god, damn it. Aaron Murray, maybe you
were right yesterday.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Maybe maybe this maybe the the the future of college
football as we know. It is not as secure as
I potentially felt it was with this fourteen team playoff.
I'm going to be a little pretentious and I want
to read you one of my favorite quotes, and it's
about precedent, right, precedents, not presidents, but precedents plural, and
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the power the precedent. And this will be this is
like how you know, one or two school leaving all
of a sudden, everybody follows. This is from Storm Before
the Storm by Mike Duncan. This is a quote from Valais.
Patrick Cullis said quote, Precedents do not stop where they begin,
but however narrow the path upon which they enter, they
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create for themselves a highway whereon they may wonder with
the utmost latitude. And here's the key line. No one thinks,
of course, is base for himself, which has proven profitable
to others. And think about what we've seeing in college football,
that lightning strike of a news cycle where all of
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a sudden, Texas and Oklahoma are leaving the Big twelve
and going to the SEC and raw R.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
There was yelling and there was anger.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
But you know what, it proved to be profitable for
Texas and Oklahoma. So what happened next? Everybody starts to
follow suit. What's Florida State? He Clemson. Now they're trying
to hop in on that highway that is starting to
starting to gain in latitude. Right, Florida State arguing suing
the acc Well if they did it, hell if he doesn't. Right,
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No one thinks, of course is based for himself. Well,
Clemson say we're gonna sue.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
You as well.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
So I mean it's one of my favorite quotes ever.
You should lock it in.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
But yeah, it's it's the exact path that college football
is heading down right now. So we'll see, we'll see again.
I want to hear what. I want to hear what
Clemson or excuse me, what clear Clemson has to say
about why it's been wrongfully applied?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
More go to end point eight seven five dollars this year.
Quite the pay raise from someone who was making.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
What probably five or six?
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Right, yeah, five or six again? Sorry all, I'm coming
to a little half cocked on the show. He made
four point two last season. Okay, so my man got
over double nearly triple what he was making.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
How about the biot though, how about the buyout?
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (25:30):
What what is it about? Tell me about the biot? It's
to make you happy. Of course, Alabama was gonna do
it right compared to anyone else. His buyout if he
were to leave Alabama before his contract is up, it's
five million dollars a week.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Wo wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait, but
this is if.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
He leaves, he gets ninety percent of the contract if
he's fired without cause, no mitigation, So ninety percent of
whatever part of the whatever contract he has left and
it looks like he signed how many eight year deal,
let's just say, let's knab can map.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
I guess he's not going to leave to go to
the NFL. So no.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
So so if he gets fired like in two years,
if he sucks and they want to fire him, I'm
about seventy mili.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
But I don't think Calendi bor is gonna suck, you know,
I think he's going to be.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
I don't think it's a matter of sucking. I think
it's a matter of reaching the expectations that Nick Saban
set before you. That's the problem.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
That is the exact circular conversation that people will be
having about Kaylen de Borr for the next eight months,
however long next eight years, his whole life. I mean,
it would be shocking if he can ever escape the
cloud of that.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Right. Are you surprised that he's fourth? So he's fourth,
So Dabo's one. Dado's making eleven point five million dollars
per year, Kirby and Lincoln Riley are both making eleven
million dollars, and then de bor Is right underneath them
at ten point eighth.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
So live I'm not waiting. So okay, Dabo one isn't
bit surprising. I don't not get it. But I'm also
probably pretty salty if I'm Clemson right now about it,
because he seems to be falling behind and refusing to
adapt to the times.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Who's right next to Kirby Riley Lincoln?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Ooh, you want to talk about what have you done
for me lately? That doesn't feel great. Although yeah, that's
a little unearned, but you know you're trying to get
him from Oklahoma.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
You're trying to go from the shirt thing.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
You have to pay if you want to pry somebody
out of a good spot. That's not unlike Kaylin de
borr here where. First off, if you're the Alabama coach,
or excuse me, if Alabama wants me to be their
head coach, and I know what Nick was making, I
ain't taking less than ten like I'm just not doing it.
I mean, hell, even even Washington off for nine to
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seven a year, right, so the number had to be
higher than ten. But at the same time, if I'm Alabama,
I ain't giving you a Kirby got because Kirby's got
Natties and you're great, but like, you win a Natty,
then I'll give you a raise and you'll be the
highest paid coach in the entire country. So contract makes
a lot of sense. You know why, because Jimmy Sex
was a fucking genius. Yeah, and he is the actual
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shadow lord of all of college football.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
And point and I agree, Like, listen, you you you
did just make it to the National Championship. Your resume
is incredible and we've hit on all the bullet points
of of why he deserves to be the next head
coach of Alabama. With that, the expectations are continue what
Nick Sagan's done. He has the resources I anticipated to
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be pretty damn good. I really do. I think there's
very small step back, but I think he'll have the
team competitive. I think he's making what he should be making, Like, yeah,
he should be making more than Steve Sharkisian we talked
about yesterday. Becomes the ranking coaches. He's beat Steve Sharksian
back to back, even if Steve's making ten point six.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Even if he hadn't beating Steve back to back times again,
the Alabama coach has to make over ten if you
want me to be your coach at Alabama, and I
know you're pain Nick, There's no way I'm here.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Say like, when it comes to the yeah he deserves
measuring contest, it is you're a tear below You're below
curve because you haven't won a Natty. Yes you are before.
You're ahead of Steve Sarkisian. If we're setting the bar
where you're going to fall. You're a bus star at
Steve Sarkisian.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
And again, you understand Dabbo even though he points out
just how fucking insanely hypocritical Dabbo is with all of
his thoughts and comments on paying players when he's making
eleven to five hisself, and that actually is hypocrisy, unlike
the Saban ordeal. But but but Lincoln's the big you know,
he's the odd man out there.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
My boy Sea Rob's making six hundred and fifty k.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Oh, I saw that. How about it, Bro, that's my boy.
First dude played high school together. Come on, it's that coachman.
Come up, shut out crup. I know, I know, it's
so funny because then everybody in the Spring groups like,
oh man, I got in the wrong business and I'm like, oh, really,
you just want to work twenty four fucking seven and
never have a family life or any happiness.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
That's what my mom as this year because she saw
that she was what's Sea Rob making an Alabama? And
I was like, probably like half a mill maybe a
little bit more. And she kind of mentioned the same thing,
like yeah, but I would never see my wife or kids.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Yeah, I mean like, but it's in his.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
DNA though, like Sea Rob his dad, that's him.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
My thing is you have to coaching because you love
coaching and the money, because if your motivation is money,
it's never gonna work because you don't get to spend
the money.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
You know what I'm saying, my wife does? You don't
you enjoy the money every a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
It's like in college or were used to be able
to smoke weed just for a couple of weeks a
year when they couldn't drug test you, Right, you maybe
get a couple of weeks a year, and would you
can enjoy the fruits your labor? Otherwise you are locked
in that building, grinding, tape, grinding, recruiting, just twenty four
to seven grinding, which if you love then hell yeah,
you know it's like, how about this. You want to
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hear crazy sports that I found this morning? So I
was reading Pelican's nets played tonight. I was reading about
the nets. Ben Simmons just had back surgery. He's gonna
be out for the year again. I kind of feel
from the back surgery front sounds like a pretty brutal thing.
But Ben Simmons has made one hundred million dollars in
three years with the nets. He has barely played. If
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you look at Ben Simmons per point scored, per point scored,
he has made two hundred and seventy seven thousand dollars
per point. That means my guy hits a layup. He's
got a half a million shout for Betty five his
way to a three. That's almost a cool mel I
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love my man wa and so again one of my
friends was like, oh man, yeah, I was chucking at
that job. I like, good mone if you get I
was like, yeah, all you have to me is like
six nine and a generational talent.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
They can handle like a five to ten guy.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
And ah man crazy though brow seventy seven k per
point per Brooklyn, the finesse king Ben Simmons. Yeah, the
unemployment King. I mean, put him on the the first
ballot Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Don't give a shit he's getting paid.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yeah, I mean, no, bro, I mean, look, hey again,
you're it's like Jalen Rose says, your worth is whatever
somebody's willing to pay you, the same thing we talk
about with all this nil stuff. And you know what,
somebody at some point said that motherfucker is good enough
for I'm gonnaive him over one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
And you know, you had to be pretty damn good if.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Somebody arrived at that decision, right, Like, you may not
have live up to it after the contract, but you
did some shit to get that contract to the first really,
So shout out to the unemployed King, and also shout.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Out to Pellace.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
I hope they smashed them that stuck on that fifty
two week PTO package.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Uh, all right, let's get in some mail bag questions. Okay, So,
as always, guys, we need a better job.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Of pushing this.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
But yeah, snaps CFB at gmail dot com, snap CFP
at gmail dot com is where you can send in
emails for mailbag Tuesdays, and then we can also get
to our chat question as well. Let's got our first
one though from Ryan s. If mascot mode is brought
back to E A n C Double A, which.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
By the way, when are we getting the.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
The the College Football Game Showcase, because I thought they
teased it around.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Hmm, okay, I'm gonna look it up.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Hold on, If mascot mode is brought back to E
A and T A, what is the best mascot matchup?
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Okay, I think about opponent.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
But for me, Aaron I was always a massive fan
of the Syracuse Orange.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Oh. This is why when they answer the dame question,
I'm Syracuse through and through the Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
I think it's always the best Falk answer.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
It's just a bunch of Eric Manginies running around the
big round fat Fox just out there make can play.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
So I like the Orange. I like as you see
on the screen. I like the Duck for Miami. I
like the Buckeye from Ohio State. Those are kind of
my three, my three go tos if I'm going mascot mode.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Okay, the Duck's a good one. I like, uh, what's
whats Okahoma States?
Speaker 2 (34:16):
The cowboy?
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Yeah, cowboys with this big mustache and it's like Chaps.
There's kind of wide legged stance that one running around
is always tight.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
The elephant Alabama's great al couck. Hm, wait when is that?
When is that showcase going down? Though? Uh, I don't know.
I'm gonna have to look at that original. Uh this
I do?
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Yeah, yeah, okay, actually that's the answer. Okay, okay, sorry
early may My bad, I'm jumping the gun guys. New
teas are new for earlier my thank you PG. All right,
so we're sorry. I got, I got, I got a
little pumped up there. No, that's the answer. In Stanford
Tree versus Syra two strange. Yeah, those big stupid ass
googly eyes against those big round Eric Mangini orange men.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
It's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
I would have to imagine that you would, you would.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Bring back mascot mode. Right, yeah, I don't know why
you win it. Next mail back question.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
By the way, if you want to get questions in
the chat as well, you can just do like a
hashtag snaps mailbag. Uh, this comes to Troy R. Well
deone Sanders win a national championship in the next five
to ten years and what school of the be at
the next five to ten years?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Uh, Willie win one the next five ten years, I
would say no. If he does win one, though it
will be at Florida.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
I'm gonna say no because I think, what, there's like
three guys that are gonna well, I guess it's kind
of wide open feeling. It felt like for a while
there that there were maybe like one or two, maybe
three that were gonna win Natties.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Any way, next five to ten years. Kirby would definitely
be on the list.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
I think Brian wins one eventually, that will shoe Brian Day.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I would say Ryan even before Brian, I would go Kirby,
Bryan Day, maybe then Kelly.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Given the last three and l I.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
I don't think. I think if Ryan Day doesn't get
it done this year, then I would flip it and
say b k. But those are the big three. Like
if you had to say which three coaches are gonna
win National Champion of the next ten years, I mean.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
In that list absolutely.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
He just played for one at Washington, so you know
we got to make that a forsome Like Kylen Moore
has to be on that list as well the next
five to ten years.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
I feel very confident that, but I don't feel great about.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Like Mike Norvel. I think Mike Norvell at Florida State
has an opportunity to be competitive, especially if they stayed
in the ECC.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
I would have Mike Norvel like the first on my
O L I outside looking in. Yes, i would have
the Big four, and then I'd have Mike Norvel chief
among the rest. Sark yep, Sark could be right there
with Norvel.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
I mean it, just where do you put Dion. Dion's
kind of towards the bottom of it.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
It's too ten now in double digits. I I would
be lying if I said that the finish and that
it's function with his oc Elliott and some of the
other coach staff. Like, Dion had such a strong and
disciplined start out of that Colorado team, and to have
all these guys that were thrown together in gel In
the way that they did it was so impressive early on.
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But I'd be lying if I said he didn't lose
a little bit of its luster as they kind of
faltered down the stretch. And I'm still betting on Dion
long term to be a very good college coach. I
don't know that I can sit here and bank on
a Natty in the next five to ten though that
feels maybe a step too far right now.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
I agree. I agree because he's not gonna get He's
not gonna win a Natty at Colorado, and if he
does go somewhere, he's gonna have to rebuild it a
little bit. I mean, just there's there's the timing aspect.
I'm not saying you can't rebuild fast. He did that
at Colorado. He can easily do that at another location
that that has more resources than the Buffs do. But
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there's just too many other great coaches out there. I
just I think he's a little bit behind.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
A case since Dion doesn't recruit.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
I mean, that is true, man, Dion does not do
high school recruiting, and he's done pretty good in the portal,
but nothing overwhelming. Like he's trying to go full lane Kiffin.
I wonder if you can win a Natty going full length.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
So I also wonder too, there's there's a couple of
things that go to that.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
One.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Does he truly think that he's going to stay past
his son leaving Colorado? So if you're not, then why
would you waste time on recruiting high school kids into
How easy is it to recruit high school kids to
Colorado Portal. Guys, it all depends same thing with Lane
at Ole Miss. You're trying to recruit high school kids
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against Kirby. Yeah, no, I clear. I think you choose
your lane. You gotta choose your lane. No pun intended. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Now I'm with you that, And I want to be clear,
I'm not saying that Lane is saying I'm not in
high school kids.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
I think, yeah, I think, well with Lane, you never know.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
But but yes, I think at Old Miss to reach
the heights that he has, I think he's doing it
the way that you would have to, which I guess.
I guess Dion has just been more upfront than even
Lane has been about like he really just does not
care about high school recruiting, which does feel a bit flawed.
Maybe if he goes to Florida that changes. Uh, he's
(39:29):
going to need a ball out though. Okay, Colorado's in
a pretty good spot here. Uh, just in that the
Big twelve doesn't have superpowers left you already beat TCU
last year? Can he finish middle upper pack? Like? How
many teams are in the Big Twelve this year? Are
we finally back to twelve?
Speaker 2 (39:48):
I believe. I believe what number what number would would
if Florida does want to move on? What number would
you think he has to hit to put his name
in the seven eight wins? That's and they go after him,
but just to be in consideration because they're not gonna
hire him, at least has to make a bullet.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
You can't go seven and six and get that job
and get the Florida job, right, that's insanity.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Yeah, I would think so.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
And even then people are gonna be worried about what
he had Shaduri had, Travis Hunter.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
What's he gonna do post shudder? Like Deonte complicated.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Candidate in the short term. I think long term he'll
make himself very attractive. But Florida's timeline is likely next season, right.
I think the Big twelve now has like sixteen teams
in the conference yop. Yeah, because they were at fourteen
last year. But Texans all will leave but you add
(40:48):
the four corners, so yeah, I think we're up to
sixteen teams now.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Yeah, Dion Mnina finish in.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
The upper half of the sixteen. George's I don't think
people care all flash, no sizzle. In my honest opinion,
I think see that's the I think Dion has the substance.
I think that I think that their whole year looks
different if they don't let Eyamnor go off for three
hundred yards and beat them in that Stanford game. Everything
(41:16):
feels different. They hit the over on all their season
win totals the original four and a half, and it's
just yeah, it all kind of fell apart after that.
Greg says he would lock down Florida. Maybe maybe so,
uh Steph Spielback, lee pH lance l oh lipol to Florida,
says Jeff Rawlings. I mean, I would give like Leipold's
(41:39):
getting a bit up there age wise, but you would
have to look at You would have to look at
Leipold very seriously. Chris Cleman is another name that's gonna
come constantly these conversations. Plus they're kind of being cucked
in the Big twelve a little bit, right. I think
you think Whittingham, Waitdingham just feels so maybe stuck isn't
the right word, wouldn't just feels so you taughed through
(42:02):
and through.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
I know, but especially if there is some real lakes
of this whole acc thing and it does go start
going the way of what we're talking about, Like you
you have to start even looking at an exit plan
if you're a coach at that point too. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
No, one wants to get left of the kid's table.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
No, even though I was like the kid's table and
Thanksgiving personally me, you'dn't have to sit down a song
and get to kind of go play around.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Maybe like eat a little bit, go out, go come
backing in and eat a little bit. Laurie. H love you, Laura. Uh.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
If you had to live in a time period before
this one, when would you choose to live? You are
still a white male, don't worry. Yeah, I mean you know,
I don't know. I'm watching Showgun right now, and it
doesn't seem like it pays to be a white male
and Showgun.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
Showgun's fucking awesome.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
By the way, what is that on a new shows dude? FX.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Apparently it's based on an old book I believe in
the eighties, and there's been a movie or TV series
on it before. But if you're looking at for something
to fill the Game of Thrones, political intrigue, hyper violence,
like maneuvering, just wonderfulness, Showguns awesome.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
So it's on Hulu because Hulu is FX and whatnot.
You know you can show nipple on FX.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Now nice? How crazy is that?
Speaker 1 (43:22):
I mean, I love it. I don't know why we're
so hung up with the female nipple to begin with.
But time period before this one, here's here's here's how
I always answer this. Do I have knowledge of today's
time when I go back?
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Right?
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Because if I do, I don't want to go back
in time at all. You know, Like I like having
pants that stretch, I like air conditioning. I fucking love
video games. I love the Internet. I love computers. If like,
uh yeah, yeah, PG says, I don't think you can
(44:00):
for the premise to work. Yeah, okay, so we're saying
you just choose a time period and you're just gonna
be in that time period.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Then yes, no knowledge, Okay, I am gonna go.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
I kind of want to go to the late seventies
and just like like doing drugs, shoes. Yeah, just do
like smoke a lot of weed and like play football
and like have sex with one girl, but then not
have a cell phone and maybe even have sex with
a second girl.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
You know, I'm just dreaming large here.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
I'm a big fan of the Pirates of the Caribbean,
you know whatever that time is as a pirate in
the Caribbean, Like, that's kind of where I'm feeling it
a little bit. But this is what it's on an
island as a pirate, drinking, fucking you know what? You know?
What you mean? What do you mean? What is the
pirate lifestyle?
Speaker 1 (44:45):
What you got rotted teeth, horrible hygiene, You're on a phone,
no one knows, but no one knows with the boys,
you're probably.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Yeah, but there's three or three months where you're kind
of on an island just fucking just being a degenerate.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
You're eating fuck, you got scurvy, You're trying to eat
lemon ride, You're eating nothing else, biscuits.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Know nothing else, you know nothing else.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, see seventies and eighties, lots of cocaine
and sex.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
I mean, look, I now I love fantasy stuff right
like I love you do. I could see now, almost
says Aaron's you pretty to make it as a pirate,
But you do have a swashbuckling sense about you. Maybe
that's the quarterback and the Tampa in you. I know
that Tampa loves pirates. The gas I love really want
to go to Gaspareilla Festival one day. That's on my
(45:35):
bucket list. But hmm, family trip, let's go. I mean,
I do love I love Roman history too. Yeah, so
probably second on my list would be maybe like Rise
of the Roman Empire, like Augustus. Like I remember reading
(45:55):
about this one guy, and I can't remember his exact
time period in the Roman Empire, but this how advanced
they got back then.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
This motherfucker's whole.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
Job was to just make badass oyster beds for super
rich people's villas like that. That would that that would
actually be insane if if you lived all way back
then and and you you you had a job, like
you don't have to fight.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
You're basically just like a landscape architect.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
You know what your you know what I should be
based on my my just degenerate itself. I need to
be in what's the place that essentially got destroyed because
of volcano prior to the volcano?
Speaker 1 (46:37):
Oh uh Pompey pump pump pump, Yeah, take me back
to the prime POMPEII.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
Why why you want to die in a volcano.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
Prime before the volcano?
Speaker 1 (46:49):
Oh, you just want to live in like a badass
Roman city. Yeah, that's basically what I'm getting at as well. Like,
if you were a well off Roman, your quality of
life was in some ways a high than ours now.
Basically it's because of slavery.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
Now.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
Unlike the Atlantic slave trade, which is unique in that
it was racially based and fucking awful in that way,
slavery in Roman times was more of just I don't
care where you're from, what color you are. I took
over your people, like, sorry, you work for me. Now
eventually maybe you get your freedom, blah blah. It was different, right,
but yeah, you would just have slaves doing everything for
(47:24):
you if you are well off Roman, which you get
sounds very fucked up, and it is fucked up. Yeah,
but like you, if I had somebody to feed me
grapes all the time, she just drink wine all the time.
H When did you want to go to the future instead?
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Why?
Speaker 1 (47:40):
So I can just see a bombed out apocalypse of
death after we blow this planet up or eat it away.
I still feel like two. There's like I love this
is one I can never square. I love medieval times.
I don't know that I have any desire to live
in medieval times. It just seems like the shittiest time
I'm possibly alife, flag, death, uncleanliness, sword fighting, dark, smoky rooms, yes,
(48:10):
but yeah, outside of that, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
No, no death, and poop everywhere in Rome. Yeah, poop everywhere.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
I mean, that's just like anytime you go back in
history anywhere, just poop everywhere, though, you know.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
Yeah, I would have been paying grain try grain.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
Tithes my fucking my, my, my, my vassal lord, just
be a little surf serving him up. Yeah, I agreed, Locke.
Anytime for air conditioning and plumbing is out for me.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Yeah, but you fucking don't know. You don't know well.
Speaker 3 (48:40):
And again, if you're well off en up in Roman times,
you will have plumbing.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
Yeah. So here's that. Let's do this.
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Speaker 1 (50:30):
Jeff rawlins, what about the college football year that you
can go back and play durham Oo again?
Speaker 3 (50:37):
I would go late seventies.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
There was something about the late seventies early eighties era
of football, and maybe just I've heard too many of
my dad stories, but it just seemed like such a
work hard, play hard kind of time, and I love
to show. There's a book, It Never Rains in Tiger Stadium,
written by John ed Bradley. One of my favorite stories.
They talk about USC coming to play LSU, and I
(50:59):
think it was in seventy eight somewhere around there. Sometimes
in seventies USC comes to play LSU, and they describe
these USC players exiting the locker room only to find
a giant fucking Bengal tiger right outside of their locker,
roaring in its cage because that's what they used to
(51:20):
do to Mike. They put him outside the opponent's locker
room and and like kind of taze them up a
little bit and get them all frisky balls. Yeah, And
it makes me think, like, how fascinating would it be
in a pre Internet age where maybe you're looking at magazines,
you're seeing like a news report about Louisiana every now
and then you're from Los Angeles, born and raised. All
(51:41):
of a sudden, you're fucking bat rouge with you know,
seventy eighty Halver Many was thousands screaming Insaye Louisianians and
a giant Bengal tiger yelling at you.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
What a wildlife experience.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
I saw the other day with speaking of usc Linett
was talking about playing in the early two thousands part
to the phones. H I forgot what I think. He
was on Edelman Show and they were talking about He's like, dude,
we were going out with the celebrities in LA because
everyone went to the same clubs and we were like
subburies because no one had like phones and people weren't
taking pictures. He's like, dude, I'm going out with like
(52:15):
Kid Rock and this celeb and like Leon Leonardo DiCaprio.
I'm like, dude, you're going out with fucking Leo. You're
the starting car. Back at USC. I mean, yeah, I
can see it. That's a wild that's a wild deo,
that could be dangerous. So like that seemed like a
good time. What I mean, hell, today, I would I would.
I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I'd kick the tires around with today,
knowing that I could be making you know, seven figures
(52:37):
is pretty sexy. That's true.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
Yeah, Greg Henders says, I go back to eighteen nineties,
have a badass horse. Uh yeah, that's also Cowboys. I
like Cowboy Times Power of the Dogs, very good cowboy
movie you should watch. Yeah, no, I mean true, Aaron,
I'd actually probably go to today because I'd make more
money than I make as an adult, and it probably well, well,
I probably may have fucked up my whole life.
Speaker 3 (53:00):
If I didn't fuck.
Speaker 1 (53:01):
It up, it would have given you a really great
way to start your life out on. Yeah, step smail back,
what food and items are your followers leaving at the
feet of your shrine?
Speaker 3 (53:11):
Ask goat dogs.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
So of course Nick Saban's followers left to oatmeal, cream
pies and diet cokes. For me, it would be sesame
seed chicken cigarettes. Okay, guys, I don't like Yes, I
love tobacco, Okay, but I do not want to paint
an accurate picture.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (53:30):
I do not smoke often. I maybe enjoy on average
one cigarette a week. It is a treat that I
give myself.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
So no, you would not leave cigarettes at my shrine.
You would leave sesame seed, chicken and marijuana is what
you would leave at my feet. The cheeky sick thank
you PG.
Speaker 3 (53:47):
That's all it is. It's just it's like it's like
in a House of cards.
Speaker 1 (53:51):
Yeah, before we all started hating Kevin Spacey, how him
and his wife would smoke a cigarette at the end
of like the day or something.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
Nice bottle of wine and some pot roast. We know
it's not going to be a beer. People.
Speaker 1 (54:06):
Just you mean to leave into straight pow roast, straight
pot roast? Yeah, your favorite food, just like great ye
served over served over rice, maroni la music. What super
villain would you compare Dabo to? Who's the most uh?
(54:30):
What's the word I'm looking for when somebody really grates
on your nerves? Who's the most pretentious super villain?
Speaker 3 (54:38):
He would be He would be one of those super villains.
Speaker 1 (54:40):
And I'm not coming up the villain, right now, But
I do have a villain archetype, you know, where you
have the bad guys that are so obsessed with being
good that they're like, we have to like you know,
it's like they're they're they're they're fanatics essentially right like
any toe out of line and you deserve to die
because this is how it should be and this is
(55:00):
the right way to do things. So so he's like
like a religious zealot that has lost his way and
is willing to kill for what he views as being right.
Someone in Game of Thrones, wait and for what, oh
for Dabbo be a Game of Thrones.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
I feel like someone that that type of villain in
a show like that, where you have the power, you
play by the rules.
Speaker 1 (55:31):
I'm trying to think of who oh uh maybe like
a Stanisparathian is not unlike that. He was someone who
was uber committed to the rules, uh to a fault
until he kind of peacemaker says your.
Speaker 2 (55:44):
PA's little.
Speaker 1 (55:46):
Nah nah no, No, little finger is a fucking schemer.
Little finger is uh sext in climbing up the ranks
to take everything over. A little finger is someone who
does it in the shadows, not not Dabo u Da
would be Monarch from the Venture Bros. I don't know
if you've ever seen Venture Bros. But I really like
the Monarch answer actually quite a bit. Chicken Bow News
(56:11):
wants to know what kind of wine Aaron Boons Farm.
Speaker 2 (56:13):
That's a little cab. That's a little plant planet. Trip
right now to uh to Napple with the wife in
May to a T ball movie solo while I'm getting drunk.
Speaker 1 (56:23):
But Napa calv Napa cab the uh? Do you ever
get a prisoner out of Austin? I have some that's
in prisoner before is Hope is Hope out Austin?
Speaker 2 (56:35):
But I like prisoners out of I think prison is
out of California though.
Speaker 1 (56:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean dumb. I think hope Hope
is out of Austin also very good. But if I
want to treat myself a bottle of prisoners kind of
my go do you want to my one time I
drank boons Farm?
Speaker 2 (56:47):
What happened?
Speaker 1 (56:49):
I never met Boon so I never drank boons Farm
in high school. I never drank wine. A lot of
my Louisiana Dejon friends did grown up. It looks like
blue kool aid just ridiculous wine. But uh, we were
drinking a ship ton of Boons Farm and that night
I put in two horseshoe dips. I filled my entire
bottom lip with dip, and I filled my entire upper
(57:10):
lip with dip, and then I tried smoking a cigarette
at the same time. I pewked everywhere, and I threw
up so hard that I popped all the blood vessels
in my face, and I looked like a freak. I
looked like I looked like Lois Griffin and that episode
of Family Guy when she doesn't ever makeup on it
(57:31):
was it was just really unsettling looking.
Speaker 2 (57:39):
Fun show. Oh that is that what you're trying to
do here? Yeah? Is that what you're trying to do here?
What do you mean? Hey?
Speaker 1 (57:46):
Alvo mars Way And guess what, dude, I started watching
a new anime last night.
Speaker 2 (57:49):
You're a fucking asshole.
Speaker 1 (57:50):
And it's on, Uh what is it on? Oh, It's
on Max And I can't remember the name of it.
It's like kid O Kaikouni or something.
Speaker 2 (57:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (57:58):
It's bad ass, though, is an His wife and son
get killed and next thing you know, he's just doing
crazy ninja shit.
Speaker 3 (58:06):
One day, I'll finish Demon Slayer. All right, we'll do it.
We'll do it, all.
Speaker 2 (58:10):
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Speaker 3 (58:38):
That's what it is, all right.
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