Corey Feldman, IDF Special Forces Veteran and Reservist

Corey Feldman is a former IDF special forces combatant and active reservist who answered the call to fight Hamas. As the situation in Gaza continues to deteriorate, propaganda and lies drive a wedge between both sides of the conflict. Corey addresses some of the most controversial accusations against the IDF, with the most grave being genocide and encroachment.

 

While mainstream media vilifies IDF actions in Gaza, Corey sets the record straight on the actual measures taken on the ground to reduce civilian casualties, a reality completely absent in other warzones. Feldman also takes a look at historical precedence, like the Hamas charter to erase Israel from the map, and the fact that the only language the Middle East has ever known is violence.

 

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Speaker 1 (00:15):
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(00:58):
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today my guest is Corey Feldman, a former Israeli Defense
Forces military personnel, and I'll let him get into that
a little more. Corey, Welcome to the show on soft Rep.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Thanks so much for having me. This is great, happy
to be It's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
No, we were just talking right before we kicked off,
and you know, super super cool. You got a bunch
of team guys that might be watching. You want to
give him a shout out real quick?

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yeah, I'll give a shout out to the whole Sarah
Divati family. Thank you guys for all the support and
look forward to talking about a bit of our experiences
over the last four months and really fourteen years.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
So what is that division? Who did you just shout out?
What's that team? Say it again?

Speaker 3 (02:10):
So? Givati is the name of one of the infantry units.
Within the IDF, you have kind of five major infantry brigades,
and within each of them you have a reconnaissance company
kind of similar to your recon marines, and then that
breaks down a little bit further into three specialized jobs.
But generally speaking, I was part of the reconnaissance company

(02:31):
of the Givati Brigade, which happens to be a Gaza
focus brigade, So of course our focus was always training
along the Gaza border, protecting the surrounding Kibusim and Mochevim.
And when this conflict broke out, we knew pretty quickly
that this would be you know, largely our responsibility, in
addition to obviously many other units. So Guivati is the

(02:52):
name of the of the unit.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
So okay, let's just get right into it. October seventh, Okay,
let's talk about October sixth. Let's talk about October sixth. Okay,
not and I've talked about what were you doing October
sixth that led into October seventh? You know what I mean,
normal day, just having a you know, your normal life, right.
What was happening in October sixth?

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, I mean I recently started a healthcare company called Covered,
so we're working to automate the process of appealing denied
medical claims for doctors. And I was actually at a
conference helping to promote and do some fundraising, staying at
my cousin's house who lived where the conference was happening.
And of course, you know, at around I guess it

(03:33):
would have been ten eleven pm. The reports, you know,
our time, the reports started coming in about what was
happening at that point Saturday morning in Israel, and you know,
little by little the details became clear. And unfortunately, as Israel,
as you've become used to reports of terror attacks, it's
not something new, but the size and the scale of this,

(03:54):
it slowly became clear, were greater than anything that most
of us had seen before. And I think by the
time I woke back up again on Saturday morning, which
was already Saturday evening Israel time, you know, I knew
that this was something that was above and beyond what
we've seen before, you know, at least in my lifetime,
and that we would be getting called back.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
So so when you got called back, did you you
just went straight in how many tours have you done
so far in the situation?

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yeah? So, I mean it's interesting, right, it's a startup
army effectively, right, you know, the strength of most strong militaries,
like the US is in its standing military. And I
was just at a ceremony at West Point and we
talked about the million servicemen that have died defending this country.
And you get a sense of the scale of the

(04:43):
US army and military forces in General Israel's standing army.
No one has the exact numbers, but it's a couple
tens of thousands, if that, three hundred and fifty thousand
reservists were called up. So these are people who, yes,
have been training every year, but for the most part,
are doctors, lawyers, you know, entrepreneurs again. You know, I
did my training once a year with my guys. But

(05:04):
all of a sudden, you go from fundraise a fundraising
meeting to meeting the enemy within like you know, fourteen days.
It's in a pretty wild transition for me personally. My
brother's wedding was it was the next weekend in New York,
the fourteenth, so I knew that I was not going
to leave before that, and I basically went from my
brother's wedding to the airport. From the airport landed in

(05:25):
Tel Aviv, was picked up and brought directly to base,
where we trained for about two weeks before ultimately entering
Gaza on October thirtieth.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Wow. Yeah, I can actually recall a lot of the
pauses that you're talking about, where not so much like
you leaven to go, but just kind of that timeline.
There was a little bit of a pause before you know,
anybody attacked back from Israel in that regard right with might,
and so you know, there's a lot of there's a
lot of folks that are asking why did you think,

(05:55):
you know, the president of Israel, Net and Yahoo allow
it to happen. There's a lot of this, like you
have this iron dome, you have so much support from
the allies, right like why why? Help me understand that question?

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Listen. It's a great question, and it's one that I
think everyone is asking. How could an intelligence failure of
this scale, you know, have happened? And certainly whether it's
his personal responsibility extreme ownership right when you're in charge,
especially if you run into the platform of security, you know,
you have to take some degree of ownership for that.
So you know, I can speak as just a general

(06:33):
kind of Israeli civilian and saying that I'm disappointed that
that that ownership has not yet been taken. We already
have started to see some resignations from the top brass
and the IDF who were kind of empowered on that day,
who said, as a result of you know what happened,
I'm stepping down. And I think that's that's justified I
think it'll be many years before we get the full

(06:54):
picture of how such a failure was allowed to occur.
We know that a lot of the military basis failed
security checks, you know, even a week before at it's
almost the same exact time that the attacks occurred. So
there were clear warning signs that the readiness level was
not what it needed to be. And you know, the
rest will be told throughout the course of history. But

(07:14):
you know, from our from our perspective is kind of
active reservists. You don't look backwards, You just look forwards.
You know, you know that horrible mistakes have been made,
but there's not much you can do to change the past.
All you can do is changed the future. So you know,
we were kind of focused, especially during that first period,
on just what needed to get done.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah, and and and your heart was full of that
pride for your country and for your countrymen, and for
those hostages that should be released. And I just want
to say that, right, I just feel that, you know,
October seventh, uh has happened, and it's now we're in May, right,
and you know, hopefully you know, everybody saying their prayers

(07:54):
for the hostages to be released out there and I
just want to mention that, right. I don't want to
like not say that they should not be released. They
should be released, right, let them go, right because you know,
according to like the Google, if you were just to
look up how many people are in Hamas on Google, right,
like in that organization, it says around like twenty to
thirty thousand membership in there, right, And so you know

(08:17):
it's not worth hearing that there's thirty five thousand KIAID
on one side and there's only like thirty thousand members
of a party, you know, and there were they're just
were Israel's looking for their people, right, the hostages, those hostages.
You know, what can you say about that that I
just brought up?

Speaker 3 (08:35):
Yeah, I mean listen, I wear my bring them Home necklace.
They are forefront on everyone's mind. It's you know, Israel's
an interesting country. There's a mandatory draft and the government
in essence makes this unspoken promise that we will bring
your children home, no matter what, dead or alive. And

(08:56):
so you see some massive concessions that have been made
in the past in exchange for kidnapped soldiers in order
to bring our people home because that faith in the
government is essential, right, It's that faith that allows mothers
and fathers to send their kids to the army knowing
that the idea will do everything possible to bring them home.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
So it's and it's.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Not just Israel. You know, thirty nationalities were represented among
the hostages. We still have, I believe, seven American citizens.
It's kind of unfathomable, unfathomable to me to imagine any
other scenario where American hostages were taken, where US forces
would not be on the ground taking care of business,
and the least wouldn't have the full undivided support of

(09:38):
you know, the US administration on either side of the
political line. So while I've been happy about some of
the US support for Israel, there are certainly areas where
I've felt it's been lacking. And I do feel that
that public daylight between the United States and Israel has
in some cases in bold in our enemies the Middle East.

(09:59):
People sometimes misunderstand like they don't speak the same language
that we do over here. Forget the actual language, right,
The language of the Middle East is violence and deterrence,
just the fact of the matter, right, And so the
perception of strength is really important in that neighborhood, and
any perception of weakness or space between allies creates what
the enemy perceives to be opportunities. And so I do

(10:20):
think that some of the actions of the past couple
of weeks and months have been the result of that daylight.
But as you pointed out, I think all sane people
can agree that it has to be a priority to
bring back those hostages. You know, it's all we think.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
About, yeah, one hundred percent. And I also just want
to bring up the other side of the isle here
that has you know, the thoughts that you know, there's
a lot of colleges right now along the US that
are standing up to say, you know, stop the genocide
that's happening, you know. And the reason why I say
that is because you know, the international courts have just

(10:54):
issued out like a warrant for President net and Yahoo
to you know, be picked up and whoever else is
in his party. You know. I think what it is
is it's not so much people are against you know,
the people of Israel or the people of Palestini. I
think they just want to see a different solution to
bringing the hostages back versus what do you think.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Yeah, well, I'll just you know, one slight tweak I'll make,
which is the ICJ has said it might release a
warrant for the arrest of Israel's leaders. It has not
done so yet. Okay, important, but you're right it has.
You know, the fact that it's even made it into
the public eye it means that it's obviously something that's
being considered. Yeah, you know, I may go on a

(11:36):
little bit of attention, and I hope you'll forgive me.
I'll look to Douglas Murray, who I know is I
think contributed for you guys before, but he's an adjunct
professor at West Point and has written extensively about the
extent to which Israel has gone to prevent civilian casualties,
and I want to talk a little bit about that.
I also want to talk about what I saw when
I was in Gaza, because of course, no one wants innocence.

(12:00):
That's just like a universal truth. If you're a good person,
you don't want to hurt innocent people. I went into Gaza,
and we were in people's houses, and what I saw
were photo albums where people were thrusting collation of calls
into the air triumphantly at weddings in a culture that
was glorifying violence. I saw children's textbooks that featured a
map that was missing the state of Israel's label. There

(12:23):
was a state of Palestine that had erased all of Israel.
I saw nursing textbooks in English that were dedicated to
the martyrs of al Aksa, i e. People who had
died taking the lives of other people in suicide attacks.
This is a profession dedicated to helping people, dedicated to
people who gave their lives taking the lives of other people.

(12:43):
I saw plastic Katusha rockets in children's playgrounds, meaning from
a very young age, teaching children that resistance was the way.
We found real katusha rockets under children's bets where they
imagined that the idea would never hit. And of course,
during periods of ceasefire, sometime saw through our scope. I
can remember one occasion where a woman was seen in

(13:04):
a place where she shouldn't have been, and days later
we found it improvised explosive device.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
There.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
So the question of what constitutes a civilian is you know,
we would always find the rocket launchers ready to go,
so when come into a house looking for weapons, they
would typically be fully loaded, sitting by a window. So
you can imagine if someone's walking, they're unarmed, they're a civilian.
All of a sudden, they pick it up, they shoot it,
they put it down, they're no longer a civilian. Well,
who puts those rocket launchers into position Hamas sends children

(13:30):
to do it because they know that we don't want
to pull the trigger on a twelve year old boy
who's whether he's carrying a weapon or not. They use
our humanity against us. So I think the first thing
to note is that I think you'd be hard pressed
to find any conflict that mirrored the extent to which
the enemy embedded itself within civilian infrastructure. We're talking about
a tunnel system that rivals the London Tube in terms

(13:53):
of its size and scope, that has been built under
a city where we took fire from most often. We're
from u N schools and mosques, hands down, and they
knew we'd be reluctant to want to hit those positions,
and so of course that's where they fired at us from.
So the first thing to understand from a military perspective is,
I'm sure many of your listeners do having been on

(14:13):
the ground, is they are not making the distinction between
civilian and soldier an easy one. All that being said,
Israel has done more to prevent civilian casualties in a
combat zone than any army in history, according to John
Spencer and others, from dropping flyers, dropping speakers, broadcasting evacuation notices,
drones doing the same thing, sending personalized text messages like

(14:36):
geolocating someone in a building and sending a text saying
leave this building, it's about to get blown up. Millions
of text messages were sent, right, things that were just
not done in the history of warfare. Because if we
think about the last you know, twenty years of modern
military campaigns, whether it's Russia's illegal incursion into the Ukraine,
the US and Afghanistan, US in Iraq, that element of surprise,
of shock and awe, it's kind of that blitz creed

(14:58):
that was you know, kind of promoted by the German
offensives during World War Two. That gives you the element
of surprise, and Israel forfeited that at every turn in
this war in order to warn civilians. And so you know,
if you take Hamas's numbers right, which I think are fudged.
But let's just say they're true. So originally they said
thirty four thousand casualties. Now they're saying they don't have

(15:18):
numbers for one third of them, or they don't have
kind of verified proof for one third, So it's closer
to twenty two. And you take the IDF's numbers, which
are around twelve thousand terrorists killed, you're talking about a
civilian to combat and death ratio of about one to one.
The average that the UN puts out since Kosovo is
nine to one. So this preposterous idea that Israel is

(15:38):
committing a genocide is just counteracted by all of the
facts on the ground, not only intention as I discussed
kind of through phone calls and text messages, but through
the actual facts in terms of how many military personnel
have been killed as opposed to how many civilians, and
especially if we consider the densely populated nature of the
Gaza strip, right like, if Israel was trying to conduct
a genocide, it would not look.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Like this well and like right now, right with everyone
pushed into Rafa, okay, and a lot of the Palestinians
who are just like in a famine state, needing aid.
And I know that the peer is just being finished
from the US side bringing that over, you know, so
there's some type of seaside you know, port to be

(16:21):
dropped off. But you know, at the end of the day,
you know, how did that peer that was supposed to
be there get blown away in the first place. Shouldn't
we have been thinking about the aid that needs to
go into the city, right, like the infrastructure. But it
just seems like it's such a carpet bomb all the
way to Rafa. And I've seen the footage and I've
talked to other folks inside the situation who are there,

(16:42):
you know, taking photos and whatnot and on the ground,
and I mean, you know, one minute they're watching and
the next thing you just see like you know, uh,
explosion from a rocket off in the distance, and they're
covering those stories. I just want to understand that, you know, perspective,
Like I understand the hostages that are missing, and I
understand the number from Israel side of the twelve hundred

(17:02):
people that were shot at the concert. You know, I
guess maybe here in America, I'm a little jaded to
that situation because it just took one guy at a
casino to shoot sixty one people, right right, you know,
at a concert. And so here in America, I'm like, okay,
we didn't quite go to war, you know what I mean, right,
And that was one guy. Imagine if we and we
have things here in America where we can't get over that,

(17:24):
like what you said, you know, we have, you know,
that same type of mentality here where we're taught things
in our school right about what you know are what
are the liberties in America? Liberties? Oh my gosh, if
I say, don't infringe all my liberties, we all know
what I'm talking about right off the bat. Right. So
I'm a little I'm not, I hate to say, I'm

(17:44):
jaded to that, right. But and here I live in Sandy, Utah,
and I see paramortars flying off the mountain here because
they have those crosswinds. And I'm just thinking now now
that this has happened, I'm like, that's what they used
to come in. They didn't use eric like a big
airplane or nothing like that. They use these paramortar backpack

(18:06):
style parachute gliders. Right, That's what they started the whole
thing with.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
It's yeah, it's yeah. It's unfathomable to imagine you're at
a music festival kind of dedicated to love and peace
and coming together and and for it to end like that.
And you just brought up so many great points rather
that I want to kind of I want to segment
them if we can't, like sure, please, this is this
idea of like food and aid, which is which is
super important. And then the question of like what's the

(18:33):
goal right, like we are we thinking about casualties on
both sides in terms of like are we trying to
get even like what is Israel trying to accomplish? So
I think the first thing to note is, you know,
Israel's a much smaller country than the United States. It's
about six million people. What happened on October seventh is
the equivalent of fifty nine to eleven's So everyone in
Israel knows someone who was directly impacted by that. And

(18:53):
and I can't overstate that, right, everyone in the government,
everyone in the army. I had three guys in my
unit that were kidnapped, two or now dead. One is
mia Like everyone was impacted personally by this, even though
the numbers were smaller for Israel, that that loss has
felt so much more acutely because it's a small country.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Right.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
When I think about the aid, you know, important to
note like hundreds of trucks have been going in every
single day. I do think the idea could have done
a better job of planning out what that would look like.
The main challenge that was not getting aid into the
Gaza strip, it is Hamas continuing to steal that aid, right, Like,
show me one picture of a starving Kamas soldier. I

(19:31):
haven't seen one yet.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Uh A soldier? Yeah, I'm waiting, Hello, where's that guy?
Show me that guy or gal? I just I'm not
to laugh it off, but I'm just saying, show me
that person so I can identify them as a Hamas soldier. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
And by the way, the peer was fired on by Hamas.
Let's just break that down. A peer whose sole purpose
is the deliverance of aid into the Gaza strip is
fired on, right, Like, what does that tell us about
the intentions of the ruling body that in that strip?
Are they really interested in giving food to the people
of Gaza? Like I think that kind of acts. There

(20:09):
could be actors also involved that may not even be Hamas.
It could be like, you know, I don't know who
interferes with things A lot as long as you think
maybe Russia Russia, Yeah, I wrote, Okay, Like what if
somebody there happens to shoot at the peer because they
know US forces are there with their weapons because they're
building the pier CBS or somebody's out there working on

(20:30):
that peer to bring aid, but they can defend themselves,
and you want to piss off the big bear, so
just shoot pot shots at him, right?

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Is that what you're referencing?

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Yeah, I mean we know that that fire originated from
within the strip, and so whether it was done on
the directive of Russia or Iran, you know, is anyone's guests.
But the fact is, like that is a microcosm of
what's been happening since this war began. Israel has no
interest in starving the people of Gaza. Uh, forget the
fact that we.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Are Israel doesn't. But does Net and Yahoo like Israel doesn't.
But does Net and Yahoo have a different idea than
what Israel wants? Because before this all kicked off, there
was protests in the streets from you know, people of
your age saying, hey, we want a new leadership in
you know, and it's still kind of uh, there's an

(21:23):
uproar of that that's not.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
You're not going to hear. There's no great love that
I have for that guy, and I would love to
see him resign tomorrow. Don't get me wrong, right what
you heard from Gons and many of the other leaders
is though we don't believe in it now, who's the
right person to lead? Any other leader in his shoes
would be conducting the same war, and I could have
been run slightly better. But I don't think it's in

(21:46):
I don't think that it's Netta Yah Who's intention to
kill civilians. As I mentioned to you, one to one
is a pretty damning uh. It really counteracts pretty heavily
the notion that there's any sort of intentionality. And the
other thing to note is that Israelis are pretty independent.
Like your listeners will be used to a pretty strict
command structure in the US where the lieutenant passes on

(22:07):
the orders. Israel's not like that. You know, you routinely
question your superiors, like it's built into the Israeli culture
and the military framework. So if you think about what
would need to happen for you know, Israel to intentionally
target civilians, that would have to be an order passed
down you know, from a kernel down to a major
executed by lieutenant Like, there are so many layers at
which I would fully expect someone to say absolutely not

(22:30):
that It kind of flies in the face of my
lived experience, both being in the IDF and having a
large part of my network of friends and family. I
remember speaking to my friend who's an F sixteen pilot,
maybe two years ago, three years ago, and I said,
you know, what's what's the scariest thing you've done, Like,
surely you've flown above Sam's and you know, webinon Syria.
He said, Honestly, the scariest moment of my military career

(22:53):
was I was about to drop a payload in the
first guy's a war, and seconds before I hit the button,
I got a report that there were children the house,
and I pulled back and I was terrified that I
was going to kill civilians Like that, to him was
the scariest moment of his military career. Those are the
sorts of people that constitute the IDF. And so, yeah,
you have bad actors like you do in every single

(23:14):
group of people across the world, but they're kept in
check by by people who are not afraid to speak up.
That's kind of the character of the Israeli, of the
Israeli society. And so you know, even if Naton now
who was evil, it's hard for me to imagine that that,
you know, evil would be translated into real felt results

(23:35):
on the ground. And I don't think that it has.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
I mean, I just wanted to bring that up, And
I also asked some questions of people around me, saying, hey,
what would you ask an IDF soldier? Right like, what
would you ask if you had a if you had
the opportunity to ask them? And a former friend or
not a former a former Navy veteran, and he's a
friend of mine, he's also a coach of mine. He
just wanted to say, how do you know, what is

(23:59):
it that you're looking for for when you see women
and children? You know, is it weaponry? Is it not weaponry?
How do we decide if they are? Like you kind
of brought that up saying, hey, you know, one minute,
you have somebody putting up a rocket and then you
see a lady walking by, and it's like the rocket
wasn't just there, but now it's there. And you know,
we've all seen probably the movies, you know, American Sniper
with Chris Kyle and all that, and he has to

(24:21):
he's watching this little kid pick up a gun and
try to you know, he's like, please, don't do it right,
So tell me your thoughts on that, Like, what's the
target identifier here? What's your roe for that?

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Yeah, I mean listen, obviously, someone who is armed or
in an area that they're not supposed to be in
that's directly threatening troops, Like you have no choice, you know,
if a kid points out a weapon at your unit,
Like what can you do? I think you brought up
something before that I forgot to go back to which
I think was a great point, and you talked about

(24:53):
casualties on one side versus the other. And I think
there's a broader picture here, which is this right? And
and I'm trying to remember who called it out, Professor Galloway,
I think right. He said, like if the if the
cartels from Mexico marched into the US, killed the population
equivalent to the University of Austin, took you know, all

(25:13):
the faculty hostage, and went back into Mexico, Like what
do you think America would do? Like we would bomb America,
Mexico into Kingdom come and and so it's not necessarily
about killing every common soldier. It's really more about removing
their ability to effectively run the Gaza strip because this
is a group of people that whose charter calls for
the destruction of Israel, and we talk about theory and practice,

(25:36):
and theory, they want to wipe us off the map.
In practice, every opportunity that they've gotten, they've tried everything.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
They want to do that, though I don't understand that.
What is it? What's their issue with Israel?

Speaker 4 (25:49):
How much time you got give me, give me, give me,
give me what you're give me the give me the
straight up, Like someone who's just listened, like, yeah, that's
a great question, Like what is it that it's pissed
them off so bad that the like I can't have it?

Speaker 2 (26:00):
And is it just what? How far back does it
go at the beginning of time?

Speaker 3 (26:04):
This is radical Islam, and it has different faces, but
it's showing that those faces all across the world. The
US forces have dealt with them across the Middle East.
We're dealing with a unique sect of it in the
form of Klamas. You know, there's a version of Islam
that says if any land has ever been a Muslim land.
It's forever Muslim land. These people are not talking about

(26:25):
you know, I don't see these protesters chanting to state solution.
They're chanting from the river to the sea. They're chanting
all the Jews will be gone from this area and
it will be you know, sovereign Arab territory, like the
other twenty three Arab countries that surround Israel. So their
goal is nothing short of the destruction of Israel that
they had plans for. You know, when they looked at
the papers they took off those Kamas soldiers who came

(26:48):
into Israel, they had plans for central Israel Tel Aviv.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Right.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
They had this delusional vision that they were actually going
to take over the country, right, And that is their
state goal. And that's what they've tried to do. Every
cease fire in since Israel pulled out of the Goaza
strip in two thousand and five has been broken by Hamas. Right,
there was peace the date on October sixth, as you
pointed out, just as there was peace you know, October
before the twenty twelve campaign, in the twenty twenty one campaign. Right,

(27:16):
this is a group of people that have made their
intentions very clear, and so Israel simply cannot The first
job of a government is to protect the safety of
its people, and Israel cannot accept the scenario where an
enemy who conducted an act of ethnic cleansing and has
promised to try to do it again exists on its border.
It's just not a sustainable situation. Similarly, in the North,
twenty percent of Israel is currently not occupied and should be.

(27:40):
Like people are evacuated from their homes and they can't
go back there because of what's happening with Hesbolon. It's
not a sustainable situation for a country to deal with,
and so the threat has to be eliminated.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
So it's it's happening. You know, they've they've lit the
fuse and kicked it off. I mean, I know it
goes back and forth and can even go back to
like you know, the Six Day War, where you know
they're probably still upset about, you know, just land encroachment.
Let's talk about that for a second, right because over
here there's rumors that the former president's son in law
is talking about building hotels in Gaza.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Now, yeah, I've seen some of those rumors. I mean, listen,
let's just to go back to where it's.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
That's gross to me. Yeah, I just want to be
a human here.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
No, one hundred percent, And I think that does not
in any way reflect the mainstream Israeli view. You know,
I saw a lot of articles about like some conference
where a couple hundred Israelis we're talking about real estate
and gaza, and like one right wing minister attended. That
guy represents like under a percent of Israel's population, and
so I think it was falsely represented as like the
Israeli governments, people have to understand, like the unlike us

(28:47):
in the US, the way of government rules in Israel
is by coalition. So let's say one party has you know,
forty percent of the vote and they need to get
to fifty one. They'll join forces with these little contingents
in order to get them to fifty one percent. So
that minister that represents the one percent that gets them
over is technically part of the government, but doesn't represent
the voice of fifty one percent of people. And so

(29:08):
like enter bendvere Right, the god that everyone hates and
that you know, all these terrible comments are attributed to him,
he doesn't represent the views of the mainstream government. He
is an outlier that was pulled in to hit that
you know, fifty one percent threshold or I don't actually
know what the percentage threshold is, but whatever it was
that was needed, that far right party was brought in

(29:28):
to satisfy it. And we could argue if that was
right or wrong. But you know that that like when
I read things like that, I just think that it's
worth double clicking to really understand kind of what role
a guy like that plays in the government or doesn't
in this case.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Right, because I mean, like that's you on the ground, right,
that's you being pulled out of your daily life to
serve your country with your heart, Okay, which is what
is asked of us that have been there, you know,
and served. It's your you're giving it your all and
then and then to have somebody do it for for that,
you know, that reason to build some fourteen story something

(30:08):
on the beach is just not what I think. I
just think that I hope to God that's not what
it is.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
Yeah, I mean I didn't hear from a single person
going into Gaza before or after like we were there.
Like again, like if this incursion happened on October sixth.
I could see that that might lend credence to the
argument that maybe that was the cause of it. But
it didn't. It happened after an act of ethnic cleansing, right,
So it's pretty clear why it happened, right, Like, there's

(30:35):
no there's no misunderstanding why Israel went into Gaza. It
didn't go in before, it went in after to root
out this threat. And you mentioned kind of sixty seven,
So it might be worth going back just a little
bit in terms of history. You know, in the wake
of World War One, the Allied Powers carved up the
Middle East. It's how we got Lebanon, Syria, and the

(30:55):
League of Nations had nation building mandate.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Right.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
These were the European colonial powers who came in and said,
we've just won the World War. We're going to figure
out what the new world order looks like. That's how
every country in the Middle East was formed. You know,
the San Remo Conference, Israel gets its borders. Britain is
charged with the mandate for Palestine and is basically given
the mission of running government in this administrative unit that

(31:18):
encompasses all of Israel, all of the Gaza Strip, all
the West Bank and Jordan. In one of its first acts,
it splits Jordan off into trans Jordan and rules Israel
until nineteen forty eight. At that point, it's meant to
pass Israel over to the people living there. But what's

(31:39):
interesting is they come out and they say, prior to
passing it over, they suggest this partition plan. They come
before the UN and say, yeah, I know, we're supposed
to give back all of Israel to the Jewish people,
but what if we cut it in half, right and
give Israel kind of half of what it thought it
was going to get. And it wasn't a clear consensus
among the Israeli delegation. Israeli delegation voted six to ten

(32:02):
in favor of it, but they basically said, you know what,
in exchange for international recognition and legitimacy, we're willing to
make this compromise. We're willing to do it. What's the
response of the Palestinians in Israel and the Arab world.
A resounding no and the declaration of war the very
next day. So what results from that is basically the
equivalent of a world war for Israel, where one percent

(32:22):
of the population is killed and when the dust settles.
You have what's called the green line, which basically means
where a green marker drew lines on a map which
carved out the Gaza strip and left that to Egypt,
and carved out West Bank and left that to Jordan.
And for you know, whatever that was those eighteen years.
Gaza was ruled by Egypt illegally by the way, under

(32:42):
international law, since the UN resolution was never adopted and
was non binding even if it had been, And the
West Bank was ruled illegally by Jordan, which has since
renounced its claim to the West Bank. So there's this
question of like, how do you occupy yourself? This was
sovereign Israeli territory as mandated by the League of Nations
in the UN, that was seized illegally in war and

(33:03):
then taken back, and now people are clamoring for kind
of these sixty seven borders, and I'm like, based on
what precedent? And that's what always pisses me off about
the dialogu about Israel is right, Israel is held to
a standard that no other country on Earth is held
to from the perspective of what it means to fight
in an urban combat zone with the deaths of civilians
from the perspective of its legitimacy, like no one else.

(33:25):
No one's questioning the right of Egypt to exist, or
Lebanon or Jordan, despite the fact that its borders were
drawn up illegally, just the same way, despite the fact
that it encompasses many rival factions. Right, who are right?

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Not like where's the Kurds? You know? Where do they
get to go? Right? The Curtis stand? Where'd that go? Right? Like?
Like talk about drawing onlines? Right where did Iraq, Iran
and everything else come from? Outom An Empire? Just doodle
in on a map? So say with Idaho, Idaho is
just drawn by the river. Yes, I'm just saying, But

(34:01):
how come we just can't get along?

Speaker 3 (34:05):
That's a great question, you know, I think I think.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
That's really really what we want. I want. I want
to see that. I want you to I want you
to still be in the IDF and still get and
have it, not just be uptrained right ready to go?

Speaker 3 (34:17):
Yeah, I mean, no one, you know, we don't want
our kids to fight the same wars that we fight,
you know, But but sadly, like we are dealing with it,
enemy doesn't think about happily ever after the same way,
you know, like for us, I think it was gold
in my ear that said, if Israel put down its
weapons tomorrow, it would cease to exist, and if the
ARBs put down their weapons tomorrow, there'd be peace. You know,

(34:39):
Gaza could be a thriving tech hub, you know, supported
by the qataris by by Saudi Arabia, by Israel. It
could be, and Israel has every interest in that, right.
Israel is the startup nation. Israel is a thriving economic
powerhouse that would love to include this portion of folks
living within its borders in that that machine. But the

(35:00):
has not been there from the other side. And when
I think about one of the reasons that there's never been,
you know, Palestinian state other than they keep trying to
kill us, there's no consensus, Like there's no clear leader
that speaks for the Palestinian people with whom to make peace.
Right in the West Bank you have Fata and Gaza,
you had or have Kamas. These people don't see eye
to eye, that were throwing each other off buildings, So like,

(35:22):
who's going to speak for these people and actually be
able to promise anything to Israel.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
That's where your scholar brain needs to come in. I
don't I don't know. I mean that's what we need
to have, that dialogue. You can we talk to to
stop the insanity? And how can we you know? Uh? Yeah,
it's crazy because I mean there's a lot, there's there's
a death toll happening here. There is you know, uh,

(35:48):
the young kids that can't eat, you know. And and
I'm not one to say there's not bad guys in
a hospital, all right, because I know a unit of
green Berets that were staged inside of a junior high school. Wow, okay,
are us green Berets? You know? And so you know, seventh, eighth,
ninth graders were going to school and they were underneath

(36:09):
the school doing their daily jobs. Right There was even
a recruiter upstairs that had a whole office for the
National Guard here. So we're not It doesn't shock me
that there is you know, weapons inside of like a mosque,
right right. It doesn't shock me that there's a full

(36:31):
on unit of you know, American forces in a school,
let alone over there in a school, right Like, I'm
not shocked by that. I think mainstream is shocked by that.
But growing up in a special forces community. You learn
where dad worked.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And you know when you think, when
you when you ask that question, like how do we
all get along? Like you know, they say democracy is
only ever one generation away from from disappearing, and I
think peace is also two generations away from becoming a reality.
I think about the international community support for UNRA, which

(37:05):
has demonstratedly participated in the October seventh massacres, which puts
out textbooks that include maps devoid of the state of Israel,
which teaches kids to hate. And I really blamed that
organization in a big way for the inability of Israelis
and Palestinians to see a way forward because they are

(37:26):
the number one employer after Hamas in the Gaza strip.
They have a vested interest in continuing right, Like, it's
not every other refugee population on Earth is governed by
one agency at the UN. And then the Palestinians have
UNRA and lo and behold, it's the only unsettled refugee
population since World War Two? Like do we think these things?
Do we think that's a mistake. I don't. I think

(37:47):
that agency has kept alive this false dream of the
right of return not only for people who are displaced,
but all of their descendants, which would basically mean the
end of the existence of the state of Israel, which
is not a realistic goal. Sovereign contry itself eradicated, and
by promoting this seriously violent as resulted, Like they have

(38:08):
blood on their hands, And we need to support a
group to go in there that actually takes care of
the Palestinians, that actually wants a better future for them,
that actually promotes the type of education that can allow
for eventually a two state solution and two people living
side by side. We don't have that today, And I
blame the international community.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
You know, there should be blame, and that goes all
around because the international community has its hands in it
all around, you know what I mean, every I think
everybody has something going on here, like an actor bigger
than bigger than what I can think, what you could think.
You know, these these guys dude, meeting in their secret
jet meetings. You know, they're supposed to hate each other,

(38:46):
but they're meeting in secret meetings years ago. And you know,
like you mentioned here, I write notes too. You said
new World Order. I picked up on that right, Like
is this just like you said, they reshape land and
make a new world order? Is this something that you know?
Is is what's happening? Another new world orders trying to
kick off, But all the pieces are of the puzzle,

(39:08):
didn't make it.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
You know. Proxy wars only stay proxy for so long,
you know, And like in US history, we saw that
and thankfully the human messile crisis ended without a war.
But the fact is the US and China and Russia
and Iran have been in a proxy war for you know,
as long as I've understood anything about news. And this

(39:32):
was kind of the frontier where the weapons were funneled
and the hatred was funneled. And you know, we're seeing
it on college campuses too. Billions of dollars have been
sent to these universities from countries like Saudi Arabia, like Katar,
and there's not an accident that the beliefs and the
professors that are hired are beginning to mirror the anti

(39:53):
American sentiment that we see in many of those countries
like these. It's kind of an obvious link. So I
think the proxy is simply falling away from the phrase
proxy war, and we are reaching this place where you know,
as Americans, as Raelties, as people who believe in democracy,
we have to decide what we stand for and what
we're willing to give up in order to promote that
way of living, because there's a lot of people that

(40:13):
want to take it from us.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
So with regards to the students, you know, being indoctrinated
or you know, having this type of you know, education
put in front of them, in America, we've always had that,
you know, free speech, and it's always been going down
at campuses, whether it's at Berkeley, you know, in the sixties,
or you have you know, you know, the segregation happening

(40:38):
and the protests against people's civil liberties and rights, you know,
to be equal against all mankind. You know. I just
I don't know, man, We're I just gotta just let
each other just kind of live and just be ourselves.
Freedom of choice, maybe freedom of choice, choose what you want.
But when you have one side that hates the other side,
and the other site says, why do you have to

(41:00):
hate us? But you're still throwing rockets at us? And
then I have to watch Real House Hunters with my
wife and it's the Israel episode and we're watching and
they go through three houses and You're like, which house
are they gonna pick the one with the bomb shelter,
the one with the bomb shelter or the one with
the bomb shelter and the toilet. You're like, get the
bomb shelter and the toilet. Literally, that is a real thing. Like,

(41:22):
you know, I just want to say, even though I'm
smiling about it, you know, you guys in Israel have
had rockets and hate thrown at you a lot of
your lives.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
Yeah, it's sad, and you know, on these college campuses
now to see the level of this hatred. And you know,
I've been on Columbia's campus since all this broke out.
Try to engage with protesters. They won't talk to me,
they won't show their face. I think for many of them,
it's a fat like they don't understand what they're saying.
They don't understand what the river to the sea means.
They couldn't find Israel on a map. And so you know,

(41:57):
I still support their right to say things that I
don't agree with, like that's the American way. But this
was not that. These were not peaceful protests. These were
environments where Jewish students hell were any student who was
not part of their encampment was not allowed to pass.
You've seen everyone seen these videos of people trying to
walk there and being told, you know, you can't come here.
It's what are you talking about? This is university property.

(42:18):
Did you buy this property? Like I'm a student here?
And the violence that those kids it wasn't just that
they were told they were in come, they were met
with verbal and physical violence. Buildings were taken over. We've
seen the propagation of the distribution of media around how
you take over a school, how you fight back against police,

(42:40):
Like these are not innocent peaceful movements, right, everyone agrees
with the right to peaceful not most people in America
agree with the right to peaceful protest. These very quickly
shifted from peaceful protest to something far more sinister than that,
And so, you know, intervention had to happen the way
it did. But frankly, we should have seen the writing
on the wall a long time ago an intervene before

(43:00):
I reach this point.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
I mean, you know, really, I see a lot of
information coming into me from the biggest scare word out there, TikTok.
It's the scariest word to any government agency right now, TikTok,
you say, like, oh, China, but look like you seeing
stuff I see, you know, IDF guys going into the
houses and getting shot at, you know, and having to

(43:25):
get into firefights. You see that. You know, what do
you think social media has done for the situation? You know?
Is it? That's what's also fanned that flame. And I'll
bring this back because here at the University of Utah
just recently, you know, there's a big bolt and put
out there saying, hey, we want you to have free
speech and you have the right to assemble and do
all these things, but no tents and no structures, right

(43:49):
like that's the law, that's the rule of the campus.
It's like, you can't what happened. Okay, they decided just
to set up tents, set up structure, and and then
then you have to have them enforced that. They wouldn't
have enforced anything. They would have let everybody protest. But
the thing is is like you're wanting to like shelter
in place on the spot, you know, overnight, overnight, overnight,

(44:10):
and then it just becomes it's not it's not all
there are really healthy.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
It's not like it's not a free for all, and
like at Columbia, they took hostages. They took like a
couple of janitors hostage. What is that? Like that what's allowed?
You don't you can't pull that. And then they had
the gall to have a press conference and say that
we'd like to order like vegan pizzas. Like I mean,
some of that was was obviously like made up and
and ai rendered, but like they did call and say,
like we want to ensure that we can get food

(44:37):
and water, and they're like has anyone stopped it coming in?
And they're like no, but we just want to make
sure like sorry, like you want to pretend to be
grown ups and like take over a building, but like
now you're asking for like your your meal plan, like
pick it to your point if the university doesn't.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
And you know what kicked it off was the the
New York dude who sent in the the military to
take out or the police department totally armored up. I
think that's what kind of fanned the flames, right, So
it like just kind of said, oh, you're gonna do
that at that school, and then another school picked up
on the notion, and other schools picked up on the
notion and uh you know boom hashtag protests. Yeah, just

(45:17):
is taking place. We see it, you know, It's like.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
Yeah, once it's hit a certain scale, it becomes very
difficult to put the genie back in the box. And
there was ample opportunity to do this with campus police
when it first started. Yeah, put that tent there right immediately,
get NYPD on the scene, and there would have been
fifty people removed and it would have been a quick
and dirty and done media story. And instead they allowed
it to reach this place of just complete mayhem. Where

(45:44):
if you had and these were professional agitators in some case, right,
Like there's a reason the NYPD went in the way
they did. Like there were people in there who broke glass,
who assaulted people. Again, there were reports that night.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
They always are there. They're always involved, bro there always
there's always act bad actors that get involved in They
just take opportunity, target opportunity, man. Yeah, especially especially since
we're wearing We're so used to people wearing masks, right right, right,
so now they can just come in without having to
show you their face anymore. Where before you wore a mask,
you were going to be a bandit or a robber. Right.

(46:18):
But now it's like we're so accustomed to a mask
on your face. You're like, oh, okay, not a bad actor, right.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
And I think people feel more comfortable doing things that
they wouldn't do, you know, behind a mask, like I'm
playing a role sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
It's true, it's true. I'll take my glasses off if
you can have my soul mask. Hey, look right here, bro,
I hear what you're saying. Go ahead, call me out, dude,
go ahead, I get it. You want the bad dad off.
Here's the me.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
I'm coming over there. I am you.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
But you know you come hang out here anytime. Bro.
You can come out any time to Utah if you ever.
I mean, this is the conversation I really want to have.
You know, it's just like a really like peaceful, like
fun loving But I know that my listener viewer probably
might not. You're on your way back to Israel.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
Yeah, so I'm going next week for a Memorial Day
and Independence Day, and of course we're on standby. The
North is still a pretty uncertain situation. And you know,
I'm not unique in that I'm in this impossible situation
of like I have a job and responsibilities I run
this startup I run on topit called Legion, where we

(47:30):
train Jews and Jewish allies that defend themselves in the
wake of spiking anti Semitism, and like, you know, I
may on a moment's notice have to put those things
on hold to go do what I need to do.
And it's not an easy way to live. You know.
It's also like you know Delta and the Seals, and
for sure, the Green Berets are kind of used to
this idea that they're living their lives one moment and

(47:50):
then they flip a switch and all of a sudden
they need to be twenty four hours notice, like ready
to deploy, like you have people, And I'll put myself
in this category. I'm not the caliber of a Green Beret.
This has not been my wife's work, who are also
forced to switch those hats just as quickly and go
from civilian father, boyfriend, your husband, whatever, to combat soldier

(48:15):
in days weeks. And it's an impossible.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Situation immediately, even you know, I remember my dad would
have to just be like I'm going to be gone.
If I'd be calls, just tell him I'll been fishing.
I was like, okay, how long get you gone for
He's like about six months. You're right right right? He
was leaving, he was going. And then one time somebody
called the house and I was like, he's your dad home.
I'm like, no, he's fishing. Oh do you know he'll
be home? I was like about six months. I was

(48:40):
a little kid, a little Aaron. So my given name
is Aaron Lee Radel. Everybody calls me rad because they
don't have to say my last name Radel, so they
call me Rattle. So you're gonna get a breakdown on
my name real quick. So Rattle. My whole life turns
into rad for short. But my given name is Erin
A R O N.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
So just to let you know, yeah, like the prophet's brother.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
That's what I wanted you to say. I just wanted
to let you know shalom.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
Yeah. How long was your dad in the military? For?

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Twenty three years? Wow?

Speaker 3 (49:11):
Amazing?

Speaker 2 (49:11):
Yea, yeah, Vietnam through ninety one. And she had a
pretty big seizure after an airborne jump went wrong with
him in his unit on a training mission out here
and a lot of guys broke their femurs and feet
and he took a serious hit and TBIs and it
basically took out a whole unit. Dude. It was a
night drop that they were doing, like eight hundred foot

(49:33):
thirteen hundred foot drop. But when they're flying in the
sea one thirty, the mountain was here, but they're at elevation,
so as they dropped the guys, the guys are starting
to land boom boom boom boom boom boom boom on
the mountain, hurting them, breaking them in pelvices, whole eighteens.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
And I mean, first of all, thank you to you.
You know, it's not just your father that made the sacrifice.
Your whole family made that sacrifice.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Right.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
Military families give everything, and a lot of people don't realize,
like you know, there's a lot of ways to get
hurt from combat. It doesn't have to be just facing
the enemy. In order to be combat ready, the training
that you have to undergo can be so intense that
we lose a lot of guys. And and you know,
the trauma not doesn't just come from combat, it comes

(50:18):
from training too. I mean, the training is incredibly challenging.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
Oh. I mean, dude, you know the stories he would
talk about, it's just you know, I think it's trauma
that he had to learn morse code. I think he
had that trauma, dude, I don't think. I think if
he heard that, he just freaked out. My dad heard
a little.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
He starts listening.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
He's like, where's that? What's that? What's that? What's that? Yeah,
I got Vietnamese approaching in the ocean. What's up? Because
in nom he was in the navy and so, uh,
you know, they were fighting. Yeah, he was the radio operator.
He just said there was a marine with a bullet
with his name on it, and if they were to
get captured, they would burn everything in a burner, a

(51:01):
boiler or whatever and burn it all. So one time
they were drifting out to see I've told the story before,
but they were out to sea off the coast of
Vietnam and somehow their whole engine systems died and they
were just a drift and so the Chinese were encroaching
on them in foreign waters basically you know red waters
if you will, and they were burning everything. My dad

(51:24):
was burning it all. They were burning all the radio equipment,
like burning everything, all the paperwork, and he said there
was a marine with a bullet with his name on it.
And I was just like damn. And so he said,
miraculously they got speed and were able to like just
get out of those waters and get it was like
that close. So I mean, you know, maybeah, his own

(51:44):
dude would have had to take him out. It wasn't
even the enemy. It's his own guy on the ship. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
Well, I was just thinking about your what you said
about your dad in Morse code. You know, today we
were at west Point for a ceremony for NICKI Hartman,
who was the first general in the idea if he
was a colonel in the US military who went over
during the Independence War to basically help and was killed.
And so West Point every year has a ceremony where,

(52:11):
you know, we lay a wreath on his grave and
there's a twenty one gun salute, and I saw, you know,
we had there was about fifteen or twenty of US
that were one soldiers that served in Gaza, and when
those gunshots went off, I saw not a small number
of people who had these kind of micro twitches. You know,
combat leaves its mark on you and for better and
often worse. And I think it's really difficult to come

(52:33):
back to go back and forth between those two worlds.
A lot of people who don't understand don't understand. And
I think that the anecdote to maybe some of this
unrest on college campuses is for Americans to actually have
to do something. Maybe it's not military service, but at
least civil service, something that connects you to the idea
of sacrifice for something bigger than yourself. I think that

(52:54):
would do a lot to bring this country together at
a time when we're super divided, or seemed to be anyway.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
I think that's that's something to really really ponder. And
I think i'd like to end on this positive note
that you and I have had talking and over such
a horrific situation, and you know we won't forget October seventh.
It's affected not just the little small state of Israel,
but the global world who doesn't want that to happen.

(53:21):
I just want you to know that, right, And and
I think that the world also just wants to see
everything just taper down, calm down, simmer down, and everybody
just get along and we can just you know, be
kind to one another, because that's never out of fashion.
Kindness doesn't go out of fashion. However, there are there
are men who are trained to fight and thank you

(53:42):
for that. Okay, true story and with that, what was
your what's that? Legion? Tell me about that? Real?

Speaker 3 (53:51):
Qull so so Legion, which you can find at legionalpha
dot com, is basically just a group of Jews and
Jewish ally who are training and organized crowd mogad and
self defense, not in any sort of offensive way, but unfortunately,
as you know, Jews are being targeted for violence in

(54:12):
this country and elsewhere, and we hold the motto that
you should come to your own rescue and you shouldn't
be waiting for anyone else, and you need to know
how to protect yourself and your family and your community.
And if enough people do that, then people help those
who help themselves. So that's kind of our vision and
our mission. As you know, we have I think at
this point thousands of graduates of our program and we're

(54:34):
continuing to scale. So we're excited to just be able
to be part of the response to this kind of
global wave of anti Semitism. No one wants to sit
on their hands and feel defenseless, and this allows us
to feel like we're actually doing something about it.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
That's awesome. I'll have that put into the breakdown of
our podcast, So if anybody's wanting to check it out,
they can click on it. And you know, I just
want to say thanks again to Corey Feldman who has
you know, taking part of his day to day to
talk to you and I about current events, and you know,
thanks again for listening and watching, and to Brandon and

(55:09):
go check out our merch store soft rep dot com.
Go check out the merch and go check out the
book club soft rep dot com, Ford slash book hyphen Club.
This is rad On behalf of my guest, Corey Feldman,
say in peace, rad while we're I don't know, I'm
still recording.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
Okay, Well I want you to be because the thing
I forgot to mention that which you mentioned the book
club at the beginning, I actually wrote a book about
my experience and the IDF that it might be interesting
to get in some capacity with the book club. It's
called A Line in the Sand and just talks about
my journey as an American going through the idea of
special Force. So it doesn't touch on his most recent conflict,

(55:48):
but I feel like it would be interesting to folks
in your community, and I would love to chat with
American veterans about that experience.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
So oh, I'm glad we didn't cut, and I'm glad
that you're still listening too, and that you just told
us that because we didn't cut, that was a joke.
I was just joking. Know his book. Tell me the
name of your book.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
It's called A Line in the Sand. You can find
it on Amazon or wherever books are sold. And you know,
I would love to chat if anyone ends up buying
it and reading it. I'm sure, Rad, I'll put my
contact info.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
I will here.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
I would love to just chat about how my experience
may have been similar or different from yours. You know,
for you folks that served in the US military, you know,
we're brothers in arms, brothers and sisters in arms. And
I'm just grateful that you invited me to speak with
this community, and it took the time to get me
on this podcast. So thank you, Rad, and to the
whole crew.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Yeah, you're very welcome into Guy Guy. It's guy Guys
our connection on this. He's like, Yo, Rad, you got
to meet this dude. And I'm like, all right, let's
is he ready to meet me? And my peek at you.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
Love it in my almost made beds.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Yeah it works. It works now again. Let's try this
one more time. I just want to say thanks to
my guest Corey Feldman. My name is rad Thanks for
buying our merch and I'm saying yes, take care.

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