June 21, 2024 • 44 mins
Nitti Beatz sits down with Jerry and Nuface.
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
And let me ask you this, man, y'all, you and
young y'all will always be tidy no matter what.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Man, y'all did one of the biggest records in music fucking.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
History, nitty, So it's nowhere around it.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Can we I don't want to say, y'all what we talk?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Okay, talk, but we need to get y'all, y'all. We
gotta get y'all just on it. I mean, I know
how you are, niitty because I know we had a
talk off camera and uh, you know, I know Jack
is in the media now, he's on the radio, he's
on so there's been times where he spoke about it.
You I know you talked. You was like, Yo, why
why why Jared? I don't know why why he's talking
(00:56):
about this ship because it's you know so, But you
said you all spoke. So the chances of us, I
ain't gonna say, get more music, but the chances of us.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Of you all being amicable.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah, Now, we're good jock jockers always you know, good people.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
He's he's always looked at him like a little brother,
you know what I'm saying. So you know you have
a little brother. Y'all do something. But you know, we
don't have no issues. I was a little bit lost,
a little bit, but at the end of the day,
like I got a chance to see him. After all,
he's at this time in all these interviews, and I
saw him at the game, and you know, I walked
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over to him, like you know, the gentleman I am,
and I spoke to him.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
And I like that.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
You know what I'm saying. It was no there was
no no type of friction or nothing. But I walked
to him. That's how I spoke to him, and we
talked one on one and he, you know, he said
some stuff to me. I said some stuff to him,
and I clearly saw that it wasn't any type of
issue or anything like that. And at the end of
the conversation, I told him I love him, you know
what I mean. So that's what I'm on, man. But
I'm all about positive man.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Job.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I appreciate you know, he's a good guy, and I
wish nothing but look and success, you know, and thank you,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Defeciate that.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, you talking, you know, disagreements recently on big facts.
Michael Montana. It was a situation he brought your name up.
Have you told your side or did you see the
interview here? But no, I hadn't seen it.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Because I had neither what the words like swindle came up.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Swindle he swindled him, swindle him? Okay, Michael, Michael about
the guy that what her nails like? Yeah, we see
what I'm saying. You're talking about.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Michael Montana, big artist. Okay, go ahead, I'm just now
I know what you're talking about. Okay, you said he said,
I saw.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Him said contracts and and this is on the platform
like big facts where really this was recently seven months ago? Okay, No,
I mean I haven't heard that. I mean, I'm gonna
say this, man, I see a lot of you know people.
The last time I think I seen him, the person
you're talking about, was I seen him in a little
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off more than a little little five points and he
came up to me. He gave me an apology about
some stuff that you know, he just wanted to make
it right with us. So I haven't seen him since
that time.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
But nah, I man, he was.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
He was an artist that was brought to me. Because
I have so many people bring artists to me, and
some of them I work with. Some of them, I
don't work with. But I took him in and I
think back then, man, I did the record with him.
And I tell any artists I worked with, you know,
I've been successful and been I ain't worked the job
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since two thousands, so this is before I met any
of them artists. So you know, I've been comfortable since then.
So the only thing I've did since then is put
my personal money behind a lot of artists to try
to break a lot. And I spent hundreds of thousands
of dollars a lot with artists. And you know, I mean,
I ain't talking about it. I'm not even gonna name them,
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but I'm gonna just say that. You know, at the
end of the day, you know, if you sit them
artists down, that anybody I ever work with and you
ask him, tell that you what really happened with Niitty?
Did he really? Did he really have your life? What
you happen? Yeah, So you know, it's like a lot
of people say, Puffs swindled a lot of people. But
I tell any artists and I tell him, now, if
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you work with me or anybody else, get you a lawyer, because.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
At the end of the day, you got a lawyer.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
And you know, if you get a contract and you,
you know, take it to your lawyer whoever you take
it to that you trust, and they tell you to
go ahead and sign it. You know, because I'm never
believed in trying to take advantage of any artists because
I think that I think a lot of artists they
might come in and not really knowing the business. So yeah,
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so I always want to be the person that if
I get an artist or a producer, I want to
do good business with them so we can keep making
money together. I'm not trying to I don't want to hear.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
The quick There was more executives and more people behind
the scenes had that type mentality.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah you know you got to.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yeah, you gotta do that, man, And then I'm gonna
be honest man, like me what I did when I
came in the game. I came in the game, and
I immediately got me an attorney and a business manager
that taught me how not to go out here and
buy a bunch of jury and funck off money.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
How did you know to do that? Did somebody tell
you that Ian Burke Ian burke Man? But shout out
to Ian burke Man.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Ian Burke was a person that hooked me up with
my attorney, got me with my business manager that takes
care of like you ain't never heard needy name on
no tax.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Problems or nothing like that.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Like a lot of people that might run into them issues,
but I never went through that. So with me, you know,
I signed so many artists, and then you might have
artists that might get jealous of the next artist. And
then some artists they might I might get them to
a level to work they have made you know, you know,
half million to a million dollars, and then the problem
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come in when they blow that me and ain't got
no mo And then when you get that money, a
lot of them their egos start going up and they
don't want to listen until their money get back down here.
So when your money get back down here, you want
to listen to me. Now at that point, as a
business man, I'd be stupid to do business with you
again again. Yeah, so I'm gonna say no, you know what,
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because we were never friends in the beginning. We was
always business partners. So I did good business with him, and.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Everything was done.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Everybody I worked with, they've had attorneys and you know,
like I said, I stay away from all that.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, I've had no lawsuits, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Because if I had some lawsuits, you know, we would
have settled it and it would have been no issue.
But no, like any artists I ever worked with, man,
I give them a shot, and I want them to
make money because I know when I meet them, a
lot of them they they used to sleep on my
studio floors and stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
So you know, I want to see people come up.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Man.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
That's what I was all about. Man.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
But shout out to any artists I ever worked with,
you know, right now, I'm on to the new artists.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Who is that one producer here in Atlanta that really
that when it comes down to it, you peel everything back,
really looked out.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
For you the most.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
When he was coming up, JD, you know, yeah, shouting
my boy JD. Man, JD, that's my dog man like
me and him. You know, he was the person that
you know, shout out to Skeeter Rock too. Yeah you
know what I'm saying. Yeah, every time I see you know, Skiter,
I see JD. You know, the only thing I think
of is like, you know them my two brothers, you know,
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and I want to eventually see them back on the
same page, you know, because them my dogs, they did
so much just Atlanta culture. Man, them two dudes together,
New Faith Rock and JD. Yeah yeah, but me and JD.
We talked at the game and stuff. Man, So it's
all love man, Like I've been seeing cats, like I
kind of took like a whole you know, just a
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break from the music, just to kind of zero in
on a lot of other you know, family and personal stuff,
you know, because I'm a single dad. So you know,
I got my son, so I had to make sure
I was gonna let him be out here telling my game.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Game.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
My son ain't on that, you know what I'm saying.
You and I respect how you do with your sons.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Man. You know you're doing a great job. Bro. Thank
you man, you know what I'm saying. So that's what
I want.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Father, and I watched Cash like you and New Face,
we take this fatherhood ship.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Man.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
You talk about him so so deaf and pouring in
the artists man, and condolences too.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
But you you introduced.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
And first of all, like you said, you pointing the artists,
I'll always say this, if I.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Heard nitty beats into that tag, I'm listening.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
So you introduced this young brother by the name of
Young Capone later transition to dope boy Rod, one of
the hardest, one of the voices. Man, Can you talk
about the introduction and how that relationship came about, man
and then just hearing about his transition and everything like that.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I mean, Man, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Man like him to be honest with ra rah Man,
Like I've been knowing him since he was a baby,
you know, since he's fifteen, sixteen years old, and I
ain't gonna lie. Like when when when I got the
news of what went on, Man, I cried like a
baby dog in the house by myself because I kept
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having so many flashbacks, you know, those days and him
and what I think what hurt me the most was
because I knew his mind state prior to him going
into the state that he was in when he when he.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Passed, before losing his grandmother and.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Yeah, all that, and he you know, he was kind
of upset. I'm gonna just say that he was kind
of frustrated with a lot of the music industry and
he had a lot of stuff on his mind. Last
time I seen him, you know, I had to ride
him around in the car like, he cried like a
baby man, and was telling me, you know, what was
going on and things that he was happy with and
stuff that he wasn't happy with. And you know, after that,
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the next thing I started getting was videos of him.
You know, we'll not getting stuff, but just seeing stuff
that you know, him acting out a character. So once
I got the word of him being missing, I kind
of got on my social media and asked everybody, you know,
let's put our lookout. And I say, within a couple
of days, I got a call from one of my
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partners that told me, have y'all guys checked the moork
and he told me, you know, I don't you know,
I want to say his name, but he just told me, hey,
y'all might want to look up in the morgue. And
right after that, man, I got a call from Ross
Auntie said they found him and he was he was dead,
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you know, but he was in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
But when I tell you, man, I know that's tough
for you to talk about, but that that dude, and
that the first time I ever met him was through you, Okay,
But it's from a lyrical standpoint.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Man, he was a beast. Hey, man, he to me,
cat's touching this dude. Nah, he was. He been like that.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Man when I met him, he was he was tearing
up talent shows and stuff at Columbia High School in
the catur and he was doing his thing. And I
was the first one to sign him. You know, he went,
you know and got with other camps and clicks and stuff.
But to me, I'm gonna always take that credit and
can't nobody take it from me that that was my
little dog first time I heard you know what I mean,
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I'm hot and yeah, he was total package.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Man.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
It's for him to be do that thing on Sway,
the freestyle, to see other people that didn't recognize him
and they love and how it went viral during the situation, unfortunately,
but to see him get his flowers and then everybody
that wasn't in Atlanta say, oh, dude, he rapping it,
and me and you guys are probably like, you know,
he's been this way Ben this time.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
When I first met him, Nieddy brought him by my
house down in the basement. We set in my theater
and we talked and Nieddy was like, man, this is
start there. You know, me being in the business for
so long, I was like, okay, I met him. He
was cool to Niddy, of course, play some of.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Them, beat Usa, godg j Jerry. You know, I'm appreciated
him because he was one of the guys that handled
all the marketing. You know, a lot of people didn't
know that Jerry Clark was the mastermind behind that Young
Kapond campaign. Anything that I did with JD, Jerry Clark
was the one that was doing it. So, you know,
I seen that. You know, this guy was really an
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expert in his field. What he does, you know. But
with Rob Man, Rob but he was just one of them.
He was a natural. He was a star. He just
didn't get that break Man. But I'm just so thankful
that it was so many people that came after me
that believed in him, from Nick Love to Tip to everybody,
you know, the boys. I think he was messing with
down in Augusta, Savannah somewhat making. But it was a
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lot of people that saw the same thing I seen
when I first seen him. And you know, Rob Man,
he was just he he did. He made his mark,
and I think at the end of the day, Man,
you know, he was hurting, and I think that God
knew that he couldn't take no more.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
And it was a period he was just dropping tapes
after tapes. And he was a producer too.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
He was Yeah, he produced the hot record you know
when I when I signed him and I took him
to j D and then we took him to l
A Read I think or somewhere, but we did that deal.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
But yeah, he was producing, He made beats.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
The boy was like he was a beast man and
I just hate that he, you know, had to go
through what he went through. Man, but he was real
passionate about his music. Man, But shout out the dope boy, rah, shout.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Out who is And I know it.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
I know it's gotta be one, Okay, one artist that
you had a chance that came to you. They said, niitny,
fuck with me, fuck with me, fuck with me, o
g fuck with me. Dog that you might have passed
up on side signing that you look back.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
It's a it's a couple of Gucci yellow Beezy.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Yellow Beze and you're from Atlina. Yeah, Guccie, that's my dog,
like yea, yeah, man, Gucci was out here torching the streets.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Man you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
He was on that decay, the ship but on Yeah.
But you gotta understand me and Gucci. We recorded so much,
We made so many records man, and he he was
at that point because you got to think Gucci was
an underdog.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
People didn't want to mess with Gucci when I was
messing with him, and.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
People are scared. People were staring, Yeah, you know, Gucci
come out there with that big ass chain somebody and
he acting ignorant. Real street nigga, real man. Let me
tell you something, Gucci one of the realest street you
want to come across. Having him a storytelling with talented man.
Talent one of the most talented artists I ever worked with.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Man.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
But I remember we were being still talking a lot,
and he would come to the studio real early. He
had this long burging the car with a lot of
beating it on what it was then he had a
yellow Corvette. But he'll come to the studio Man, and
he would have these comes say. He was like, Nity
introduced me to that person. He was like, because I
just got a situation at Warner Brothers at the time.
He was like, Nita, sign me take me over there.
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I said Gucci, No, I don't want to do that, man,
Let's just let you keep growing.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Why you ain't why you ain't sign.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Because it was like he was my partner, okay, and
I'm like, I don't fuck the personal.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, I didn't want to like now, bro, because he
was I knew what he was.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I'm like, nah, he's a beast, and I just wanted
him to Let's just keep working, Guccia, and they're gonna
come to you. And eventually they came to him and
he got his own situation going, and you know, we
made some good music man. And you know, like I said, Gucca,
he was he don't he write so quick?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Man? Like he's a beast in the studio. I was
in the studio.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
I'm gonna tell you a story I never told people
and Gucci one day was in the studio at Patchwork
and somebody asked me about this and I had to
verify it on another interview.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
But I introduced Gucca to Coach k oh Ship.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah, Coach k came to Patchwork and he was like,
at the time, he had just got through managing Jez,
so you KNOWJZ history. So Coach k I was some
interesting ship yeah, Coach K was like, hey, I'm gonna
come over here. He was like, Nitty, you know, I
want you to introduce me to Gucci. I said, you
don't know me. He said, not like that. So I
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connected Coach K with Gucci, which led to Coach K
eventually managing Gucci. Then Gucci signed the Migos, and then
once the Gucci got in some other issues, I think
the Migos ended up going up from the P and
Coach So I can say personally that I kind of
help help that birth of that.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Whole one degree of separation.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Yeah, and I was happy to say, you know what,
I made the connection with them guys, and they took
it and took it and made it into what it
is now.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
And you know, shout out the Coach K. I called
him open toes.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
That's my dog. But yeah, yeah, yeah, good people. So
I'm just glad to be a part of Atlanta history. Man, Like,
if I can connect this person with that person, hey man,
you know, cause I'm gonna hold my own down, you know,
but no, I mean I think that stuff like that. Man,
I'm just happy that I was you know, I can
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play some type of part with that man. That's that's
a big story, right only only story time A new
face too, man like, because new face is always he's there. Man,
I'm glad to know him. What's up with Georgia Olds. Man,
you got a connection with them?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yes, indeed, man, the biggest retail. I will even have.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Some gifts for you from Georgia. Man, I appreciate the Man.
I'm gonna tell you another secret. We're gonna We're gonna
tell some ship. Let's go, man, let me tell you something.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Man.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
I used to work at Green bro And I used
to walk by Georgia Jolds every day and I look
at them suits and I'm like, who can pull these
them pimp suits and.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
The mark and everything.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Man, it was just one cool, cool ast nigga used
to work there, and he would stand outside and let
everybody see the creases in his pin.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Cool last west side niggas.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Southwest that yeah, like yeah, man, green Brother, No shot
of Green brought Georgia Joe's man and that man.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah see, we got a living legend right here.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Man. I want to tell you, man, new face this
is all hey, man, legend.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Too, man, so living legend of course, My Rushmore type
ship faces a hip hop producers.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
But there was a generation.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
After you guys as far as production man who production wise,
not even just South, but that you you heard and
appreciated that sound and you've seen something greater than them.
Maybe name about three good producers that you you know, admired,
not the South, but just anywhere. Yeah, I say, I
like DJ Quick, Oh Ship DJ Quick. I studied him
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a lot because he was doing a lot of ghost producing,
producing and not getting credit.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
But me, I was a nosy nigga.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
So I'm going back reading credit, so I'm trying to
see who played the bungos, who played the PM string streams,
and back then a lot of producers were not getting
their credit. So let's just say it's just like for real,
he was somebody who I studied. He did a lot
of ghost producing up under Teddy Rally. Yeah, you know,
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like I think that the s WV right here remix
he did that, you know. So it was a lot
of stuff that I seen Teddy Rally, of course, Doctor
Dre of course of course JD and catch like puff Man,
and you know, shout out to all them boys like that,
they're legends, man, And I just wanted to just get
their attention and get them to know me. You know,
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first time I met Puff, that nigga scared the hill
out me because he told me to produce him.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
He was like, damn man, I didn't know because first
of all, when I ate Ball introduced me to him
and we put him on the Stop Playing Games record,
and when I met him, and you know, when you
first meet Puff and you ain't never seen him, you
don't see him on TV so much, and you just
you gotta just.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Be bigger than life.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Yeah, you gotta be like, damn, okay, you want to
talk to the nigga. But then once I got to
talk to him, and then he was like, nigga, you
gotta produce me. You made the record, Produce me, nigga.
That's how he talked to you. So I'm like, well,
I gotta produce this nigga, you know what I mean. So,
but now plump up to the plate. And yeah, Puff
taught me how to pick artists. He taught me who
how to decide who to work with.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Shout out to Sean Puffy K. Yeah, yeah, that's the
dog man.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
So with as fire as you are as a producer,
what one producing a beat battle.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Would you be like, all right, I gotta I want
them put a million on it and one of them.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
You you you feel that confidence because a lot of
all of them.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Who is that one more for you? Be like? Who okay,
I'm about to this, about to be a real man.
I like to come at Timbling. Can we make that happen?
Can wet? I like to come at tim Yeah, because
I'm gonna tell you imagine that.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
I'd like to come at tim because I think that
out of Timbling, I think he kind of Timbling and
Rodney Jerks, but more so Timbling. I think because Timberland
he's one of them producers like me, like.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
He got a lot of rains too, I'm one of them.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Because it's gonna be the only way I would do
that is I would have to make it to where
you can't bring no co producers with you. It's just you,
just me and you on that stage and we're gonna
create it right there. Yeah, We're gonna do it right
there on the spot. And I would do that, you
know what I'm saying. You know I put up an
on that.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
St Jerry said, saying he got a million dollars. Yeah,
and it's a good healthy respect for Timbland.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Let's go. Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Let's man, because he's one of the greats that I respect. Boy,
he's talented, he's a I watched him do what he do, man,
and he's like that. He did a record on justin
timerlate album and like I said, he got a lot
of range.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Man.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
I said, man, he got some it's like some Latino
stuff going on.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Man.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I'm like, you know what, this dude right here, he
might he might in his mind be like, Man, I
come swinging so hard at him on the beats man.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Because I'm like, boy, I got to impress him. Yeah,
because he's a goat.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
You know what I'm saying. He on a different level.
But I'm with it though, I'm with the ship. With
the ship, man, I bring that. I bring that back
up there in the controller untill me come on, let's go.
You say, no co producers, no co produce. You can't timbling,
you can't bring danger, you can't bring nobody with you.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Timbling hold his own down without that.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
But I'm just saying, come by yourself and we can
get it on, bro, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Can we can?
Speaker 3 (22:44):
However, you want to do it, man, But I definitely
love to do that because he's like one of the
goats that I just be like.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Shout out the Timbling man to get him on storytime
legend J soon to sir, because man, I'm just imagining
you and Timbling ship that y'all got that y'all cooking
up man got new face.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Anything like that, we come right out and do an
album or something after that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Who you rather fuck? You rather fuck with established artists
or new and emerging artists, new ones.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
I don't as a producer, you don't really get no
credit for breaking an artist that's already broken.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
You know.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
When you think about artists that's been broken, you know,
you think about you know, Barry Gordy's you know, the
stuff that he broke them, nobody gambling.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Hul a baby's face, you know.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
So it's like, you know, I want to mess with
them artists that people can say, oh, they only had
a hit because they already was known.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
I don't want to do a record of artists you
like gave this secret sauce.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yeah, break something out the dirt, you know what I'm saying,
and make people move that's what I'm thankful that God
gave me the talent to do, you know what I'm saying.
And that's something that i'll, you know, shout out to
my little cousin, man Like. I got a little cut
a little girl cousin named Brite Trilla and Trilla too.
She don't she's new, but I promise y'all Atlanta and
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not just Atlanta, but they gonna. They opened the door
for her slowly and she one of them ones that man,
she's so motive, she's so talented, man, you know. So
I just like working with new artists though, man like,
because the new artist is who you get the credit
for breaking. If you can make a new artist a hit,
making a record on a jay Z or something like that,
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that's that's easy to do because he's gonna make the
record himself. But the new artist, that's what I like
to do, breaking new artist. There's a lot of artists that,
you know, some of the songs that all their fans love,
but they particularly didn't like it the best, Like Killer.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Mike never liked to do this.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Nor Jeger didn't like sometimes because it, you know, it
reminded me of his father. Is there a song or
something that you produced that you didn't really particularly like,
but it was it became a hit, Like you're probably
what to you personally like it wasn't one of your favorites,
but it was out of that one of the ones. Man,
it's a it's a couple of them that with some
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ones that you know I did, but it's I can't
really think right off, man, But a lot of times
the records that I liked the most.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Didn't blow up, okay.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
So it taught me that it's not about me when
it comes to making music. It's about the fans and
the people that we're letting get access to the music.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
So, you know, whatever the people like.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Man, you know, I can take, you know, criticism, and
you don't like one of my beats, hey throw it away,
you know what I'm saying. In the first time I
started making beats, man Ian took me to left our
house and she had an engineer over there. Man, and
I was playing some beats for left Eye, and I
was trying to get on man and made her produce.
Her engineer laughed at my beat.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
So hard, like trying to sun you out.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
He tried to clown me because he wanted to be
the only one that produced her music.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
And hey, what his puss sad sad?
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Now, we ain't even gonna call him pussy man, Gonna
keep the good energy man.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
But I've seen him. He wanted to do a meeting
with me.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
I know, I kind of got my know and it
was I was like, nah, I told Ian, we're good, bro,
But you know that's the game bro, Like you know
I was. I just had to be tough and I
took it on the chin, but it made me go harder.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Yeah you know what I'm saying. Face. Oh yeah, man,
that that right there. Man.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
You know, I was like, whoa, because I'm my first thing.
I was like, man, I'm about to pick this n
pc up and knock this nigga side of the head.
But Ian was like, nah, bro, this is politics, so
that the East side.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yeah, you know, man, I grew up going the Golden
Glide and ship fighting niggas on the Shut up my
nigga Miko, man, you know what I mean. My nigga Miko. Man,
that's my best friend. No, I don't know who that is. Listen, man,
my nigga Miko though, you know what I mean? Hey, man,
my bad.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
I thought, you know mand.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Man, listen, man, you know hey, this new album though, Man,
this new abn be crazy.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
This new album. You know what I'm saying. It's gonna
I'm so proud of this new album we got.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
I I've been talking with my little cousin Pooky Man,
so we're just trying to get the title right now.
I think the title gonna be the go to dun Sanders.
You know what I mean right here?
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Oh yeah, storyteller legend.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Yeah, the album coming from Biddy.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
This is his uh, his chronic Now this is my baby. Man.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
I took my time with this. I've been blessed to
hear you like it though, Man, thank you? Come on
what I'll tell you?
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Man?
Speaker 1 (27:26):
When I left, I say, Man, you like new It's
some big, huge records on this product. I got a
record on that that I wrote initially for Selo call
when You're Gonna Trust Me? And it's like a poppish
record man, But unfortunately we didn't get a chance to
knock it out.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Man.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
But that's one of my favorite ones. You know what
I'm saying, because it's gonna show a whole other side
of what I really do. And I'm just I'm at
the point right now where I'm about to have fun
with this ship, new ship. You know what I'm saying,
Like I think that people, you know, Like I was
talking to Hannah, you know, she was like, you know,
she said, you know, we need more people like you
to get out and come mess with us on different
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stuff and put some music out.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
I'm like, you know what, sometimes you just need that
that that little push to tell you gonna get it
to him. Because I like to see other people come up.
So when I see people like the Mike Wheels and
the the the Metros and all them, I'm like, I
love this ship because they keeping it going and they
out of Atlanta. So it's like I'm like, man, it
take a little bit of pressure off me because I
thought at one point I was like, damn, I got
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to try to help keep the city going. And then
they came right behind us. I'm like, well, damn, were good.
Maybe torch yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Passing that torch Man.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
So right now, you know, I'm about to put out
some of the best music of my life because I'm
coming off of beaches and ship and I'm I'm relaxed
I'm going to the SPA and everything.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Let me just tell you something.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Let me tell you something brother, Hey man, we're looking
forward to that ship.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Man.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Thank you, Man, and I appreciate you Jay and anything
you ever need you in New Face Man. You know,
I know that I'm not the best you know, social
communication person, but anything y'all guys need me that I
can assist with. Man, you know, I'm back outside. Man,
I'm here, man, and I just want to keep you know,
let's keep Atlanta going.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Hey, thank you. I'm so thank you God for appreciate
your PI.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
I can't wait to just hear that tag in four manha.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
This is once again story Time with Legendary Jerry Man
New Face. Yeah, knitty beats before we sign off, Man,
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Speaker 3 (29:59):
Please hey, yo, we are live at story time with
Legendary Jerry Podcast. It's your boy new Face at New
Face on Everything or hashtag new Face was there. I'm
trying to be legendary like this brother right here, Legendary Jerry.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
And I'm Jerry Clark man and listen this. This was
a great episode.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
And he got a bunch of dopes and winds and something.
He's a cool right here. He got some work. Some
do put that man a joke now, man, I'm Jerry Clark,
a k a. The Legendary Jerry.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
This story Time of Legendary Jerry, New Faceny Beats, New Face.
We sign it out peace, story Time with Legendary Jerry.
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Once again. I am Jerry Clark. And of course, of
course we have our special segment rapid Fire with none
other than my brother New Face, New Face was Dead.
He's everywhere and he's here with the legendary super producer
Diddy Beats, and I'm gonna let New Face jump in.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Man.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
We got a legend here, man, and it's always an honor.
Thank you for coming. Thank you. Please tap into this interview.
He dropped a lot of gems, but I just wanted
to personally, you know. You know, hip hop has celebrated
fifty years. Do you remember your earliest memory of hip
hop growing up? Yeah, I remember listening to Darren Fields
on The Fresh Party on one three. I remember listening
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to Slick Rick the Show. I remember seeing Cool Mod
with the white zip up ankle boots on Soul Train.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
You know what I mean. I remember all that Man.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
No no, I think Jerry Clark had but no, I
remember back in the day man Base and all that.
So shout out to the NYC man Man and hip
hop has provided a lot of jobs and been very influential,
one of the biggest genres out here. But if I
were to ask you, like, what was the best thing
and the worst thing about hip hop?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
What would be your answer? I would say, let's start
with the worst thing.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
The worst thing is the energy that created violence and
murders and stuff that came from hip hop. You know,
because you know, I'm real, you know, biblical base, and
you know I believe that you know, the power the
tongue is, you know, very very strong. So I've seen
a lot of you know, things that have been said
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and you know, it caused a lot of violence and
death and stuff.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Man, But that would be the worst thing.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
But with the best thing, I would say hip hop
created a lot of jobs, opportunities and brought in a
lot of you know, resources and incomes to people you
know that you know, especially a lot of you know,
urban people that we wouldn't have been able to get
those corporate jobs because of you know, just because you know,
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the way we were brought up, we didn't have the
opportunities like a lot of people that were fortunate enough
to go to colleges and stuff. You know, some of us,
you know, came up in the project. I grew up
in the project. So you know, it's one of those
things where hip hop saved my life.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Man.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
And most recently Nas and Steve Stout had a foundation.
They honored Scarface and Rock Kim ordered them a quarter
million dollars honored them. I mean, if they were to
ask nitaty Beats, like who should we honor next year?
Which three names would you put up there, you know,
to honor some legends, And.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I would say all this like Kilo Ali.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
I think somebody like Kilo has been around that helped
create this Atlanta Sound, somebody like, well, Scarface has already
been you know, known, but artist like, it's a lot
of them, man, that just deserved their shots. Like Project Pat. Yeah,
Project Pat. Everybody sample his music, his flow.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
You know. You got a lot of them that's just
been around.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
DJ Quick Yeah, he's one of the ones that you know,
he been around man, you know what I mean. So
it's a lot of them out there, man, But those
are like probably some you know, my top three.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
And you got a producer up there, quick, let's talk
about Mount Rushmore. It's four heads as far as production.
Who would you put Nitny Beats production, Mount Rushmore production, Man,
I would say, Shouty Red, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yeah, battle Cat Oh he doesn't get mentioned enough. High
Tech and yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
I mean I stood a lot of producers, man, so
you know, but battle Cat, high Tech, Shouty Red. It's
a guy Mike Dean. Yeah, he did a lot of
the Kanye stuff. So it's a lot of them. Catch
that did a lot of music, man that I just studied,
and I'm like, good god, what were they thinking when
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they made this beat?
Speaker 2 (35:09):
You know?
Speaker 3 (35:09):
And I couldn't really simple, so I had to play
a lot of stuff. I just play it, you know
what I mean, and make it sound like a simple
but you know, like catch like that. Man is people
who are salute you know. I'm always you know, pay
their hummage to them. And over this last fifty years
has been a lot of classic songs. Is there like
a rap verse or a couple of rap lines that
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you can recite at any given moment if I put
you on the spot. Yeah, like Rob Bass, I want
to rock right now, I'm on rap bas and I
came to get down. I'm not internationally known, but I'm
known to write the microphone.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Because I get to come on you know.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Yeah, man, that's hip hop though, you know what I mean,
So you know, LLL. When I'm alone in my room
sometime I stay at the wall and in the back
of my mind, come on, bro.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
It was a classics, a real hip hop. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
A lot of cats hain't really into the music, man.
I just tell just from the producers you named for
your mom Rushmoretin new Face, that is. I used to
be one of the producers that I used to take
my ear and put it up to the speaker late
at night when I supposed to be sleeping, I'm listening
to the drum sounds, the keyboard chords. That's how I
learned how to play keys because I play by ear.
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I don't read music, So I learned how to play
songs like Ribbon in the Sky by Stevie Wonder. I
can play the whole song on the piano in front
of you, you know what I'm saying. So I did a
lot of stuff like that to what I kind of
self taught myself. But I just love producers and people
who put together good music. Quincy Jones, you know, you
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know you're talking about somebody who made a theme and yeah,
that type of stuff.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Man off the wall, Rod Templeton, you know, the guy
came from overseas, got up on the Quincy.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
You know.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Rod Templeton was like Brian Michael Cox with Jermaine Duprie.
You know, he was that extra ear that and JD.
You know, he know how to put it all together.
So shout out to people like j D's and the
Quincy's and the Dallas Austins and stuff, you know what
I mean. So I just it's it's Atlanta is a
gold mine. Sure, and you've been here for you know,
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you're from Atlanta. Keith Lee just recently came to Atlanta
and caused a lot of stir with a lot of
eateies and everything. But if Keith Lee wanted to redeem
himself come to Atlanta and he asked, need to beats?
Speaker 2 (37:27):
All right? Where can I go three spots in Atlanta
to eat?
Speaker 3 (37:31):
And he gonna get that ten out of ten? What
would you take him at out of Atlanta?
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Man, I probably tell him to go to this is it? Well? No,
I take that back, I take that back. Yeah, you
know I.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Would tell him no, no, no, no, I'm gonna tell you
what he would go. Well, I think he should go
is go to the spot called Woodies Chief Steaks. That's
a good spot you got, of course you got you
got different places like it used to be the beautiful
back in the days when everybody was trapping. Then they
stayed open all night. They was on Allen Avenue, you
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know what I mean. People go there and you know,
all the d boys meet up in there about three
o'clock in the morning and eat grits and eggs.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
But yeah, but it's it's a couple of places down here.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Of course, you got what's pinky spot, The vegan, slutdy vegan.
That's a spot that they're doing their thing at. Man.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
So you got little spots like that that I think
you go there and get something good.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
If you want to take it to adult. What about
strip clubs? Oh man, let's say you can keep the
East Side and Man, I like cheetah man, because you
going cheatah. You feel like you on a movie set
and get the chops, some lamb chops, lap that chicken
with that mashed potato.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Man, stream beans.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
But I don't I don't know because I ain't been
in a while, and I know my girl looking at
this now, I'm just playing no, no, she's a pastor, So.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Go ahead. I went my vault, man.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
And I tried to bring something out there. You know
it probably be special to you because you got a
couple wow and you know, like DJ Clue, a lot
of artists back in the day would say they would
love to have the first song on the DJ Clue song, Right,
So I opened up this uh DJ drama boys in
the hood, and you're telling them what that song.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Is that opened up right there? Oh man, them boys
is opening up that gangster grills, right yeah, them boys.
So you made a gangster grills. Wow, I never knew this.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Yeah, and you got your production a lot of because
it wasn't just them boys, right.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
And I did three records on this album.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Wow, that's crazy. Yeah, we did this album man, and
out of West Studio. We did a lot of that
down at Patchwork Patchwork Shouts and Jez Look. So we
was all clubbing at that time. And then by the
time Jez got on that record and he put that
that historic verse on there, Yeah, that was like shout
out to Meach and all them boys. We was all
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just hanging out at that time, man, and people thought
it was a BMF record, you know because every time
and shut out the meats man like Meach, you would
think the supporting love he would show when this record
came on. I got to the point I think I'm
thankful to meet that he made me stop spending money
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in the club, because I'm like, you know, he made everybody.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
I think he'd be like, whoa this is.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
I'm like, man, I'm like, I done spent by five,
coming home soon, I'm thinking I'm doing something.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
But Meach coming there with a backpack man, and boy,
he letting it go to one. But he was the
one that pack.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
He did a lot of promo behind this song and
this whole boys in the Hood movement.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Man, but shut out the meats man. I tell people
said it on previous episode.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
I've never seen a street marketing campaign like being that
bill for Gez And it won't be another one. It'll
never be a street marketing campaign.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
It won't be another man like me did it?
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Big?
Speaker 3 (41:00):
He put Atlanta in a position to word, if you
didn't know about Atlanta, you would think Atlanta's paradise.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Man, I'm sure the Atlanta business borrel was very thankful
for me to being meth foh stuff because they drove
a lot of people to move here, to come here
and spend money on hotels, liquor stores everything. Yeah, So
Atlanta business bureau, y'all better think.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Big beach and being shut out man.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Yes, indeed, man, And I just closed this out with
you know, we all fathers, and we talked about fathers,
and I want to ask you. You know you got
a son, you say, fifteen years old, Christmas coming up?
What would you like for Christmas?
Speaker 2 (41:38):
One?
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Let's put I like, you know, power to tongue, but
also the best gift your son has ever gotten you. Man,
he gave me these socks. Man, that some type of
way he got my picture on the socks, and it
was just like that was creative thoughful. Yeah, you know,
because I tell everybody, you know, don't give me the
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for Christmas, man, like, you know, just get me a
pair of socks or something.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
And he got me something and that was just really cool,
you know what I mean, Like my little little dude.
And I'm like, you know, that's what made me like,
you know, I really love this little dude more. You know.
It ain't nothing like being a dad man.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
So he my only boy, So you know, I'm like, man,
you know, he can't do no wrong in my eyes,
but I you know, I make sure and I'm thankful
that he's, you know, real respectful and he's definitely.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Respect he's very well put together young man. Yeah, I
appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
I mean, you got four girls, you know what, and
I've seen a picture of you and all of them
and they look all like you. Yeah, definitely, man, But
that's a blessing to man. What about you, Jay, what's
the best gift one of your children about you?
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Uh? My kids sent a couple of strippers from Magic
City one year. Oh they got me. Yeah, they paid
for them and all that, so they knew what daddy
likes and they came with it. Well, you know, it's
the camera is watching. So I just wanted that like that.
Thank you for my children. Know what my vices are, girls,
and sometimes you know, you gotta know what.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
You gotta know what your daddy vices are. I don't
no power, I don't pop no pills, you know, but
you know I got other things that other things that
would be considered vice.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Man. Well, I want to thank you Nitty for your
contribution to the culture. Man.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
Again, that tag is influential. That's you powerful. It still
rings off. I just did the rock the bells cruise man.
Thank you them boys. It's going down. Were in the
middle of the ocean and Bahamas. I'm watching generational people, old, young, white, black,
all generations to your beach man. You're powerful, You're influential.
I want to say thank you for coming with story
camp there.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Jay.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
Thank you when he said your name was on here.
It was an honor just to know it, you know,
So thank you for what you're doing being a real
solid brothers out here. Love saying to you man, you
keep doing what you're doing to new place. Man like
we Atlanta and not just Atlanta, but the culture needed
somebody like you to really know what you're talking about. Man,
I respect you, and I watch you a lot. I
watch every move you make. Man, So keep doing what
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you're doing. Man, keep God.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
First, Ninny Beaks special segment, New Face was there. I'm
Jerry Clark aka the Legendary Jed. We'll see y'all next week.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
Sign it off.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
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And let me ask you this, man, y'all, you and
young y'all will always be tidy no matter what.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Man, y'all did one of the biggest records in music fucking.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
History, nitty, So it's nowhere around it.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Can we I don't want to say, y'all what we talk?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Okay, talk, but we need to get y'all, y'all. We
gotta get y'all just on it. I mean, I know
how you are, niitty because I know we had a
talk off camera and uh, you know, I know Jack
is in the media now, he's on the radio, he's
on so there's been times where he spoke about it.
You I know you talked. You was like, Yo, why
why why Jared? I don't know why why he's talking
(00:56):
about this ship because it's you know so, But you
said you all spoke. So the chances of us, I
ain't gonna say, get more music, but the chances of us.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Of you all being amicable.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah, Now, we're good jock jockers always you know, good people.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
He's he's always looked at him like a little brother,
you know what I'm saying. So you know you have
a little brother. Y'all do something. But you know, we
don't have no issues. I was a little bit lost,
a little bit, but at the end of the day,
like I got a chance to see him. After all,
he's at this time in all these interviews, and I
saw him at the game, and you know, I walked
(01:32):
over to him, like you know, the gentleman I am,
and I spoke to him.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
And I like that.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
You know what I'm saying. It was no there was
no no type of friction or nothing. But I walked
to him. That's how I spoke to him, and we
talked one on one and he, you know, he said
some stuff to me. I said some stuff to him,
and I clearly saw that it wasn't any type of
issue or anything like that. And at the end of
the conversation, I told him I love him, you know
what I mean. So that's what I'm on, man. But
I'm all about positive man.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Job.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I appreciate you know, he's a good guy, and I
wish nothing but look and success, you know, and thank you,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Defeciate that.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, you talking, you know, disagreements recently on big facts.
Michael Montana. It was a situation he brought your name up.
Have you told your side or did you see the
interview here? But no, I hadn't seen it.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Because I had neither what the words like swindle came up.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Swindle he swindled him, swindle him? Okay, Michael, Michael about
the guy that what her nails like? Yeah, we see
what I'm saying. You're talking about.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Michael Montana, big artist. Okay, go ahead, I'm just now
I know what you're talking about. Okay, you said he said,
I saw.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Him said contracts and and this is on the platform
like big facts where really this was recently seven months ago? Okay, No,
I mean I haven't heard that. I mean, I'm gonna
say this, man, I see a lot of you know people.
The last time I think I seen him, the person
you're talking about, was I seen him in a little
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off more than a little little five points and he
came up to me. He gave me an apology about
some stuff that you know, he just wanted to make
it right with us. So I haven't seen him since
that time.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
But nah, I man, he was.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
He was an artist that was brought to me. Because
I have so many people bring artists to me, and
some of them I work with. Some of them, I
don't work with. But I took him in and I
think back then, man, I did the record with him.
And I tell any artists I worked with, you know,
I've been successful and been I ain't worked the job
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since two thousands, so this is before I met any
of them artists. So you know, I've been comfortable since then.
So the only thing I've did since then is put
my personal money behind a lot of artists to try
to break a lot. And I spent hundreds of thousands
of dollars a lot with artists. And you know, I mean,
I ain't talking about it. I'm not even gonna name them,
(04:03):
but I'm gonna just say that. You know, at the
end of the day, you know, if you sit them
artists down, that anybody I ever work with and you
ask him, tell that you what really happened with Niitty?
Did he really? Did he really have your life? What
you happen? Yeah, So you know, it's like a lot
of people say, Puffs swindled a lot of people. But
I tell any artists and I tell him, now, if
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you work with me or anybody else, get you a lawyer, because.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
At the end of the day, you got a lawyer.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
And you know, if you get a contract and you,
you know, take it to your lawyer whoever you take
it to that you trust, and they tell you to
go ahead and sign it. You know, because I'm never
believed in trying to take advantage of any artists because
I think that I think a lot of artists they
might come in and not really knowing the business. So yeah,
(04:49):
so I always want to be the person that if
I get an artist or a producer, I want to
do good business with them so we can keep making
money together. I'm not trying to I don't want to hear.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
The quick There was more executives and more people behind
the scenes had that type mentality.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah you know you got to.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yeah, you gotta do that, man, And then I'm gonna
be honest man, like me what I did when I
came in the game. I came in the game, and
I immediately got me an attorney and a business manager
that taught me how not to go out here and
buy a bunch of jury and funck off money.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
How did you know to do that? Did somebody tell
you that Ian Burke Ian burke Man? But shout out
to Ian burke Man.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Ian Burke was a person that hooked me up with
my attorney, got me with my business manager that takes
care of like you ain't never heard needy name on
no tax.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Problems or nothing like that.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Like a lot of people that might run into them issues,
but I never went through that. So with me, you know,
I signed so many artists, and then you might have
artists that might get jealous of the next artist. And
then some artists they might I might get them to
a level to work they have made you know, you know,
half million to a million dollars, and then the problem
(05:58):
come in when they blow that me and ain't got
no mo And then when you get that money, a
lot of them their egos start going up and they
don't want to listen until their money get back down here.
So when your money get back down here, you want
to listen to me. Now at that point, as a
business man, I'd be stupid to do business with you
again again. Yeah, so I'm gonna say no, you know what,
(06:19):
because we were never friends in the beginning. We was
always business partners. So I did good business with him, and.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Everything was done.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Everybody I worked with, they've had attorneys and you know,
like I said, I stay away from all that.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, I've had no lawsuits, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Because if I had some lawsuits, you know, we would
have settled it and it would have been no issue.
But no, like any artists I ever worked with, man,
I give them a shot, and I want them to
make money because I know when I meet them, a
lot of them they they used to sleep on my
studio floors and stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
So you know, I want to see people come up.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Man.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
That's what I was all about. Man.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
But shout out to any artists I ever worked with,
you know, right now, I'm on to the new artists.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Who is that one producer here in Atlanta that really
that when it comes down to it, you peel everything back,
really looked out.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
For you the most.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
When he was coming up, JD, you know, yeah, shouting
my boy JD. Man, JD, that's my dog man like
me and him. You know, he was the person that
you know, shout out to Skeeter Rock too. Yeah you
know what I'm saying. Yeah, every time I see you know, Skiter,
I see JD. You know, the only thing I think
of is like, you know them my two brothers, you know,
(07:27):
and I want to eventually see them back on the
same page, you know, because them my dogs, they did
so much just Atlanta culture. Man, them two dudes together,
New Faith Rock and JD. Yeah yeah, but me and JD.
We talked at the game and stuff. Man, So it's
all love man, Like I've been seeing cats, like I
kind of took like a whole you know, just a
(07:48):
break from the music, just to kind of zero in
on a lot of other you know, family and personal stuff,
you know, because I'm a single dad. So you know,
I got my son, so I had to make sure
I was gonna let him be out here telling my game.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Game.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
My son ain't on that, you know what I'm saying.
You and I respect how you do with your sons.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Man. You know you're doing a great job. Bro. Thank
you man, you know what I'm saying. So that's what
I want.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Father, and I watched Cash like you and New Face,
we take this fatherhood ship.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Man.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
You talk about him so so deaf and pouring in
the artists man, and condolences too.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
But you you introduced.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
And first of all, like you said, you pointing the artists,
I'll always say this, if I.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Heard nitty beats into that tag, I'm listening.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
So you introduced this young brother by the name of
Young Capone later transition to dope boy Rod, one of
the hardest, one of the voices. Man, Can you talk
about the introduction and how that relationship came about, man
and then just hearing about his transition and everything like that.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I mean, Man, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Man like him to be honest with ra rah Man,
Like I've been knowing him since he was a baby,
you know, since he's fifteen, sixteen years old, and I
ain't gonna lie. Like when when when I got the
news of what went on, Man, I cried like a
baby dog in the house by myself because I kept
(09:13):
having so many flashbacks, you know, those days and him
and what I think what hurt me the most was
because I knew his mind state prior to him going
into the state that he was in when he when he.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Passed, before losing his grandmother and.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Yeah, all that, and he you know, he was kind
of upset. I'm gonna just say that he was kind
of frustrated with a lot of the music industry and
he had a lot of stuff on his mind. Last
time I seen him, you know, I had to ride
him around in the car like, he cried like a
baby man, and was telling me, you know, what was
going on and things that he was happy with and
stuff that he wasn't happy with. And you know, after that,
(09:51):
the next thing I started getting was videos of him.
You know, we'll not getting stuff, but just seeing stuff
that you know, him acting out a character. So once
I got the word of him being missing, I kind
of got on my social media and asked everybody, you know,
let's put our lookout. And I say, within a couple
of days, I got a call from one of my
(10:13):
partners that told me, have y'all guys checked the moork
and he told me, you know, I don't you know,
I want to say his name, but he just told me, hey,
y'all might want to look up in the morgue. And
right after that, man, I got a call from Ross
Auntie said they found him and he was he was dead,
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you know, but he was in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
But when I tell you, man, I know that's tough
for you to talk about, but that that dude, and
that the first time I ever met him was through you, Okay,
But it's from a lyrical standpoint.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Man, he was a beast. Hey, man, he to me,
cat's touching this dude. Nah, he was. He been like that.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Man when I met him, he was he was tearing
up talent shows and stuff at Columbia High School in
the catur and he was doing his thing. And I
was the first one to sign him. You know, he went,
you know and got with other camps and clicks and stuff.
But to me, I'm gonna always take that credit and
can't nobody take it from me that that was my
little dog first time I heard you know what I mean,
(11:13):
I'm hot and yeah, he was total package.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Man.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
It's for him to be do that thing on Sway,
the freestyle, to see other people that didn't recognize him
and they love and how it went viral during the situation, unfortunately,
but to see him get his flowers and then everybody
that wasn't in Atlanta say, oh, dude, he rapping it,
and me and you guys are probably like, you know,
he's been this way Ben this time.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
When I first met him, Nieddy brought him by my
house down in the basement. We set in my theater
and we talked and Nieddy was like, man, this is
start there. You know, me being in the business for
so long, I was like, okay, I met him. He
was cool to Niddy, of course, play some of.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Them, beat Usa, godg j Jerry. You know, I'm appreciated
him because he was one of the guys that handled
all the marketing. You know, a lot of people didn't
know that Jerry Clark was the mastermind behind that Young
Kapond campaign. Anything that I did with JD, Jerry Clark
was the one that was doing it. So, you know,
I seen that. You know, this guy was really an
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expert in his field. What he does, you know. But
with Rob Man, Rob but he was just one of them.
He was a natural. He was a star. He just
didn't get that break Man. But I'm just so thankful
that it was so many people that came after me
that believed in him, from Nick Love to Tip to everybody,
you know, the boys. I think he was messing with
down in Augusta, Savannah somewhat making. But it was a
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lot of people that saw the same thing I seen
when I first seen him. And you know, Rob Man,
he was just he he did. He made his mark,
and I think at the end of the day, Man,
you know, he was hurting, and I think that God
knew that he couldn't take no more.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
And it was a period he was just dropping tapes
after tapes. And he was a producer too.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
He was Yeah, he produced the hot record you know
when I when I signed him and I took him
to j D and then we took him to l
A Read I think or somewhere, but we did that deal.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
But yeah, he was producing, He made beats.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
The boy was like he was a beast man and
I just hate that he, you know, had to go
through what he went through. Man, but he was real
passionate about his music. Man, But shout out the dope boy, rah, shout.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Out who is And I know it.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
I know it's gotta be one, Okay, one artist that
you had a chance that came to you. They said, niitny,
fuck with me, fuck with me, fuck with me, o
g fuck with me. Dog that you might have passed
up on side signing that you look back.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
It's a it's a couple of Gucci yellow Beezy.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Yellow Beze and you're from Atlina. Yeah, Guccie, that's my dog,
like yea, yeah, man, Gucci was out here torching the streets.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Man you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
He was on that decay, the ship but on Yeah.
But you gotta understand me and Gucci. We recorded so much,
We made so many records man, and he he was
at that point because you got to think Gucci was
an underdog.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
People didn't want to mess with Gucci when I was
messing with him, and.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
People are scared. People were staring, Yeah, you know, Gucci
come out there with that big ass chain somebody and
he acting ignorant. Real street nigga, real man. Let me
tell you something, Gucci one of the realest street you
want to come across. Having him a storytelling with talented man.
Talent one of the most talented artists I ever worked with.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Man.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
But I remember we were being still talking a lot,
and he would come to the studio real early. He
had this long burging the car with a lot of
beating it on what it was then he had a
yellow Corvette. But he'll come to the studio Man, and
he would have these comes say. He was like, Nity
introduced me to that person. He was like, because I
just got a situation at Warner Brothers at the time.
He was like, Nita, sign me take me over there.
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I said Gucci, No, I don't want to do that, man,
Let's just let you keep growing.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Why you ain't why you ain't sign.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Because it was like he was my partner, okay, and
I'm like, I don't fuck the personal.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, I didn't want to like now, bro, because he
was I knew what he was.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I'm like, nah, he's a beast, and I just wanted
him to Let's just keep working, Guccia, and they're gonna
come to you. And eventually they came to him and
he got his own situation going, and you know, we
made some good music man. And you know, like I said, Gucca,
he was he don't he write so quick?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Man? Like he's a beast in the studio. I was
in the studio.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
I'm gonna tell you a story I never told people
and Gucci one day was in the studio at Patchwork
and somebody asked me about this and I had to
verify it on another interview.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
But I introduced Gucca to Coach k oh Ship.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah, Coach k came to Patchwork and he was like,
at the time, he had just got through managing Jez,
so you KNOWJZ history. So Coach k I was some
interesting ship yeah, Coach K was like, hey, I'm gonna
come over here. He was like, Nitty, you know, I
want you to introduce me to Gucci. I said, you
don't know me. He said, not like that. So I
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connected Coach K with Gucci, which led to Coach K
eventually managing Gucci. Then Gucci signed the Migos, and then
once the Gucci got in some other issues, I think
the Migos ended up going up from the P and
Coach So I can say personally that I kind of
help help that birth of that.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Whole one degree of separation.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Yeah, and I was happy to say, you know what,
I made the connection with them guys, and they took
it and took it and made it into what it
is now.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
And you know, shout out the Coach K. I called
him open toes.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
That's my dog. But yeah, yeah, yeah, good people. So
I'm just glad to be a part of Atlanta history. Man, Like,
if I can connect this person with that person, hey man,
you know, cause I'm gonna hold my own down, you know,
but no, I mean I think that stuff like that. Man,
I'm just happy that I was you know, I can
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play some type of part with that man. That's that's
a big story, right only only story time A new
face too, man like, because new face is always he's there. Man,
I'm glad to know him. What's up with Georgia Olds. Man,
you got a connection with them?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yes, indeed, man, the biggest retail. I will even have.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Some gifts for you from Georgia. Man, I appreciate the Man.
I'm gonna tell you another secret. We're gonna We're gonna
tell some ship. Let's go, man, let me tell you something.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Man.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
I used to work at Green bro And I used
to walk by Georgia Jolds every day and I look
at them suits and I'm like, who can pull these
them pimp suits and.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
The mark and everything.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Man, it was just one cool, cool ast nigga used
to work there, and he would stand outside and let
everybody see the creases in his pin.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Cool last west side niggas.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Southwest that yeah, like yeah, man, green Brother, No shot
of Green brought Georgia Joe's man and that man.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah see, we got a living legend right here.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Man. I want to tell you, man, new face this
is all hey, man, legend.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Too, man, so living legend of course, My Rushmore type
ship faces a hip hop producers.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
But there was a generation.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
After you guys as far as production man who production wise,
not even just South, but that you you heard and
appreciated that sound and you've seen something greater than them.
Maybe name about three good producers that you you know, admired,
not the South, but just anywhere. Yeah, I say, I
like DJ Quick, Oh Ship DJ Quick. I studied him
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a lot because he was doing a lot of ghost producing,
producing and not getting credit.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
But me, I was a nosy nigga.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
So I'm going back reading credit, so I'm trying to
see who played the bungos, who played the PM string streams,
and back then a lot of producers were not getting
their credit. So let's just say it's just like for real,
he was somebody who I studied. He did a lot
of ghost producing up under Teddy Rally. Yeah, you know,
(19:15):
like I think that the s WV right here remix
he did that, you know. So it was a lot
of stuff that I seen Teddy Rally, of course, Doctor
Dre of course of course JD and catch like puff Man,
and you know, shout out to all them boys like that,
they're legends, man, And I just wanted to just get
their attention and get them to know me. You know,
(19:37):
first time I met Puff, that nigga scared the hill
out me because he told me to produce him.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
He was like, damn man, I didn't know because first
of all, when I ate Ball introduced me to him
and we put him on the Stop Playing Games record,
and when I met him, and you know, when you
first meet Puff and you ain't never seen him, you
don't see him on TV so much, and you just
you gotta just.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Be bigger than life.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Yeah, you gotta be like, damn, okay, you want to
talk to the nigga. But then once I got to
talk to him, and then he was like, nigga, you
gotta produce me. You made the record, Produce me, nigga.
That's how he talked to you. So I'm like, well,
I gotta produce this nigga, you know what I mean. So,
but now plump up to the plate. And yeah, Puff
taught me how to pick artists. He taught me who
how to decide who to work with.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Shout out to Sean Puffy K. Yeah, yeah, that's the
dog man.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
So with as fire as you are as a producer,
what one producing a beat battle.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Would you be like, all right, I gotta I want
them put a million on it and one of them.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
You you you feel that confidence because a lot of
all of them.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Who is that one more for you? Be like? Who okay,
I'm about to this, about to be a real man.
I like to come at Timbling. Can we make that happen?
Can wet? I like to come at tim Yeah, because
I'm gonna tell you imagine that.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
I'd like to come at tim because I think that
out of Timbling, I think he kind of Timbling and
Rodney Jerks, but more so Timbling. I think because Timberland
he's one of them producers like me, like.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
He got a lot of rains too, I'm one of them.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Because it's gonna be the only way I would do
that is I would have to make it to where
you can't bring no co producers with you. It's just you,
just me and you on that stage and we're gonna
create it right there. Yeah, We're gonna do it right
there on the spot. And I would do that, you
know what I'm saying. You know I put up an
on that.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
St Jerry said, saying he got a million dollars. Yeah,
and it's a good healthy respect for Timbland.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Let's go. Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Let's man, because he's one of the greats that I respect. Boy,
he's talented, he's a I watched him do what he do, man,
and he's like that. He did a record on justin
timerlate album and like I said, he got a lot
of range.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Man.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
I said, man, he got some it's like some Latino
stuff going on.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Man.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I'm like, you know what, this dude right here, he
might he might in his mind be like, Man, I
come swinging so hard at him on the beats man.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Because I'm like, boy, I got to impress him. Yeah,
because he's a goat.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
You know what I'm saying. He on a different level.
But I'm with it though, I'm with the ship. With
the ship, man, I bring that. I bring that back
up there in the controller untill me come on, let's go.
You say, no co producers, no co produce. You can't timbling,
you can't bring danger, you can't bring nobody with you.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Timbling hold his own down without that.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
But I'm just saying, come by yourself and we can
get it on, bro, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Can we can?
Speaker 3 (22:44):
However, you want to do it, man, But I definitely
love to do that because he's like one of the
goats that I just be like.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Shout out the Timbling man to get him on storytime
legend J soon to sir, because man, I'm just imagining
you and Timbling ship that y'all got that y'all cooking
up man got new face.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Anything like that, we come right out and do an
album or something after that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Who you rather fuck? You rather fuck with established artists
or new and emerging artists, new ones.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
I don't as a producer, you don't really get no
credit for breaking an artist that's already broken.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
You know.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
When you think about artists that's been broken, you know,
you think about you know, Barry Gordy's you know, the
stuff that he broke them, nobody gambling.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Hul a baby's face, you know.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
So it's like, you know, I want to mess with
them artists that people can say, oh, they only had
a hit because they already was known.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
I don't want to do a record of artists you
like gave this secret sauce.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yeah, break something out the dirt, you know what I'm saying,
and make people move that's what I'm thankful that God
gave me the talent to do, you know what I'm saying.
And that's something that i'll, you know, shout out to
my little cousin, man Like. I got a little cut
a little girl cousin named Brite Trilla and Trilla too.
She don't she's new, but I promise y'all Atlanta and
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not just Atlanta, but they gonna. They opened the door
for her slowly and she one of them ones that man,
she's so motive, she's so talented, man, you know. So
I just like working with new artists though, man like,
because the new artist is who you get the credit
for breaking. If you can make a new artist a hit,
making a record on a jay Z or something like that,
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that's that's easy to do because he's gonna make the
record himself. But the new artist, that's what I like
to do, breaking new artist. There's a lot of artists that,
you know, some of the songs that all their fans love,
but they particularly didn't like it the best, Like Killer.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Mike never liked to do this.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Nor Jeger didn't like sometimes because it, you know, it
reminded me of his father. Is there a song or
something that you produced that you didn't really particularly like,
but it was it became a hit, Like you're probably
what to you personally like it wasn't one of your favorites,
but it was out of that one of the ones. Man,
it's a it's a couple of them that with some
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ones that you know I did, but it's I can't
really think right off, man, But a lot of times
the records that I liked the most.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Didn't blow up, okay.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
So it taught me that it's not about me when
it comes to making music. It's about the fans and
the people that we're letting get access to the music.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
So, you know, whatever the people like.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Man, you know, I can take, you know, criticism, and
you don't like one of my beats, hey throw it away,
you know what I'm saying. In the first time I
started making beats, man Ian took me to left our
house and she had an engineer over there. Man, and
I was playing some beats for left Eye, and I
was trying to get on man and made her produce.
Her engineer laughed at my beat.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
So hard, like trying to sun you out.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
He tried to clown me because he wanted to be
the only one that produced her music.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
And hey, what his puss sad sad?
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Now, we ain't even gonna call him pussy man, Gonna
keep the good energy man.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
But I've seen him. He wanted to do a meeting
with me.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
I know, I kind of got my know and it
was I was like, nah, I told Ian, we're good, bro,
But you know that's the game bro, Like you know
I was. I just had to be tough and I
took it on the chin, but it made me go harder.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Yeah you know what I'm saying. Face. Oh yeah, man,
that that right there. Man.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
You know, I was like, whoa, because I'm my first thing.
I was like, man, I'm about to pick this n
pc up and knock this nigga side of the head.
But Ian was like, nah, bro, this is politics, so
that the East side.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yeah, you know, man, I grew up going the Golden
Glide and ship fighting niggas on the Shut up my
nigga Miko, man, you know what I mean. My nigga Miko. Man,
that's my best friend. No, I don't know who that is. Listen, man,
my nigga Miko though, you know what I mean? Hey, man,
my bad.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
I thought, you know mand.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Man, listen, man, you know hey, this new album though, Man,
this new abn be crazy.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
This new album. You know what I'm saying. It's gonna
I'm so proud of this new album we got.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
I I've been talking with my little cousin Pooky Man,
so we're just trying to get the title right now.
I think the title gonna be the go to dun Sanders.
You know what I mean right here?
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Oh yeah, storyteller legend.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Yeah, the album coming from Biddy.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
This is his uh, his chronic Now this is my baby. Man.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
I took my time with this. I've been blessed to
hear you like it though, Man, thank you? Come on
what I'll tell you?
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Man?
Speaker 1 (27:26):
When I left, I say, Man, you like new It's
some big, huge records on this product. I got a
record on that that I wrote initially for Selo call
when You're Gonna Trust Me? And it's like a poppish
record man, But unfortunately we didn't get a chance to
knock it out.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Man.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
But that's one of my favorite ones. You know what
I'm saying, because it's gonna show a whole other side
of what I really do. And I'm just I'm at
the point right now where I'm about to have fun
with this ship, new ship. You know what I'm saying,
Like I think that people, you know, Like I was
talking to Hannah, you know, she was like, you know,
she said, you know, we need more people like you
to get out and come mess with us on different
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stuff and put some music out.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
I'm like, you know what, sometimes you just need that
that that little push to tell you gonna get it
to him. Because I like to see other people come up.
So when I see people like the Mike Wheels and
the the the Metros and all them, I'm like, I
love this ship because they keeping it going and they
out of Atlanta. So it's like I'm like, man, it
take a little bit of pressure off me because I
thought at one point I was like, damn, I got
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to try to help keep the city going. And then
they came right behind us. I'm like, well, damn, were good.
Maybe torch yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Passing that torch Man.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
So right now, you know, I'm about to put out
some of the best music of my life because I'm
coming off of beaches and ship and I'm I'm relaxed
I'm going to the SPA and everything.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Let me just tell you something.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Let me tell you something brother, Hey man, we're looking
forward to that ship.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Man.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Thank you, Man, and I appreciate you Jay and anything
you ever need you in New Face Man. You know,
I know that I'm not the best you know, social
communication person, but anything y'all guys need me that I
can assist with. Man, you know, I'm back outside. Man,
I'm here, man, and I just want to keep you know,
let's keep Atlanta going.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Hey, thank you. I'm so thank you God for appreciate
your PI.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
I can't wait to just hear that tag in four manha.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
This is once again story Time with Legendary Jerry Man
New Face. Yeah, knitty beats before we sign off, Man,
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(29:44):
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Speaker 3 (29:59):
Please hey, yo, we are live at story time with
Legendary Jerry Podcast. It's your boy new Face at New
Face on Everything or hashtag new Face was there. I'm
trying to be legendary like this brother right here, Legendary Jerry.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
And I'm Jerry Clark man and listen this. This was
a great episode.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
And he got a bunch of dopes and winds and something.
He's a cool right here. He got some work. Some
do put that man a joke now, man, I'm Jerry Clark,
a k a. The Legendary Jerry.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
This story Time of Legendary Jerry, New Faceny Beats, New Face.
We sign it out peace, story Time with Legendary Jerry.
(31:00):
Once again. I am Jerry Clark. And of course, of
course we have our special segment rapid Fire with none
other than my brother New Face, New Face was Dead.
He's everywhere and he's here with the legendary super producer
Diddy Beats, and I'm gonna let New Face jump in.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Man.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
We got a legend here, man, and it's always an honor.
Thank you for coming. Thank you. Please tap into this interview.
He dropped a lot of gems, but I just wanted
to personally, you know. You know, hip hop has celebrated
fifty years. Do you remember your earliest memory of hip
hop growing up? Yeah, I remember listening to Darren Fields
on The Fresh Party on one three. I remember listening
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to Slick Rick the Show. I remember seeing Cool Mod
with the white zip up ankle boots on Soul Train.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
You know what I mean. I remember all that Man.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
No no, I think Jerry Clark had but no, I
remember back in the day man Base and all that.
So shout out to the NYC man Man and hip
hop has provided a lot of jobs and been very influential,
one of the biggest genres out here. But if I
were to ask you, like, what was the best thing
and the worst thing about hip hop?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
What would be your answer? I would say, let's start
with the worst thing.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
The worst thing is the energy that created violence and
murders and stuff that came from hip hop. You know,
because you know, I'm real, you know, biblical base, and
you know I believe that you know, the power the
tongue is, you know, very very strong. So I've seen
a lot of you know, things that have been said
(32:38):
and you know, it caused a lot of violence and
death and stuff.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Man, But that would be the worst thing.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
But with the best thing, I would say hip hop
created a lot of jobs, opportunities and brought in a
lot of you know, resources and incomes to people you
know that you know, especially a lot of you know,
urban people that we wouldn't have been able to get
those corporate jobs because of you know, just because you know,
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the way we were brought up, we didn't have the
opportunities like a lot of people that were fortunate enough
to go to colleges and stuff. You know, some of us,
you know, came up in the project. I grew up
in the project. So you know, it's one of those
things where hip hop saved my life.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Man.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
And most recently Nas and Steve Stout had a foundation.
They honored Scarface and Rock Kim ordered them a quarter
million dollars honored them. I mean, if they were to
ask nitaty Beats, like who should we honor next year?
Which three names would you put up there, you know,
to honor some legends, And.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I would say all this like Kilo Ali.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
I think somebody like Kilo has been around that helped
create this Atlanta Sound, somebody like, well, Scarface has already
been you know, known, but artist like, it's a lot
of them, man, that just deserved their shots. Like Project Pat. Yeah,
Project Pat. Everybody sample his music, his flow.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
You know. You got a lot of them that's just
been around.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
DJ Quick Yeah, he's one of the ones that you know,
he been around man, you know what I mean. So
it's a lot of them out there, man, But those
are like probably some you know, my top three.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
And you got a producer up there, quick, let's talk
about Mount Rushmore. It's four heads as far as production.
Who would you put Nitny Beats production, Mount Rushmore production, Man,
I would say, Shouty Red, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yeah, battle Cat Oh he doesn't get mentioned enough. High
Tech and yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
I mean I stood a lot of producers, man, so
you know, but battle Cat, high Tech, Shouty Red. It's
a guy Mike Dean. Yeah, he did a lot of
the Kanye stuff. So it's a lot of them. Catch
that did a lot of music, man that I just studied,
and I'm like, good god, what were they thinking when
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they made this beat?
Speaker 2 (35:09):
You know?
Speaker 3 (35:09):
And I couldn't really simple, so I had to play
a lot of stuff. I just play it, you know
what I mean, and make it sound like a simple
but you know, like catch like that. Man is people
who are salute you know. I'm always you know, pay
their hummage to them. And over this last fifty years
has been a lot of classic songs. Is there like
a rap verse or a couple of rap lines that
(35:31):
you can recite at any given moment if I put
you on the spot. Yeah, like Rob Bass, I want
to rock right now, I'm on rap bas and I
came to get down. I'm not internationally known, but I'm
known to write the microphone.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Because I get to come on you know.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Yeah, man, that's hip hop though, you know what I mean,
So you know, LLL. When I'm alone in my room
sometime I stay at the wall and in the back
of my mind, come on, bro.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
It was a classics, a real hip hop. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
A lot of cats hain't really into the music, man.
I just tell just from the producers you named for
your mom Rushmoretin new Face, that is. I used to
be one of the producers that I used to take
my ear and put it up to the speaker late
at night when I supposed to be sleeping, I'm listening
to the drum sounds, the keyboard chords. That's how I
learned how to play keys because I play by ear.
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I don't read music, So I learned how to play
songs like Ribbon in the Sky by Stevie Wonder. I
can play the whole song on the piano in front
of you, you know what I'm saying. So I did a
lot of stuff like that to what I kind of
self taught myself. But I just love producers and people
who put together good music. Quincy Jones, you know, you
(36:42):
know you're talking about somebody who made a theme and yeah,
that type of stuff.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Man off the wall, Rod Templeton, you know, the guy
came from overseas, got up on the Quincy.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
You know.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Rod Templeton was like Brian Michael Cox with Jermaine Duprie.
You know, he was that extra ear that and JD.
You know, he know how to put it all together.
So shout out to people like j D's and the
Quincy's and the Dallas Austins and stuff, you know what
I mean. So I just it's it's Atlanta is a
gold mine. Sure, and you've been here for you know,
(37:17):
you're from Atlanta. Keith Lee just recently came to Atlanta
and caused a lot of stir with a lot of
eateies and everything. But if Keith Lee wanted to redeem
himself come to Atlanta and he asked, need to beats?
Speaker 2 (37:27):
All right? Where can I go three spots in Atlanta
to eat?
Speaker 3 (37:31):
And he gonna get that ten out of ten? What
would you take him at out of Atlanta?
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Man, I probably tell him to go to this is it? Well? No,
I take that back, I take that back. Yeah, you
know I.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Would tell him no, no, no, no, I'm gonna tell you
what he would go. Well, I think he should go
is go to the spot called Woodies Chief Steaks. That's
a good spot you got, of course you got you
got different places like it used to be the beautiful
back in the days when everybody was trapping. Then they
stayed open all night. They was on Allen Avenue, you
(38:06):
know what I mean. People go there and you know,
all the d boys meet up in there about three
o'clock in the morning and eat grits and eggs.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
But yeah, but it's it's a couple of places down here.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Of course, you got what's pinky spot, The vegan, slutdy vegan.
That's a spot that they're doing their thing at. Man.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
So you got little spots like that that I think
you go there and get something good.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
If you want to take it to adult. What about
strip clubs? Oh man, let's say you can keep the
East Side and Man, I like cheetah man, because you
going cheatah. You feel like you on a movie set
and get the chops, some lamb chops, lap that chicken
with that mashed potato.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Man, stream beans.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
But I don't I don't know because I ain't been
in a while, and I know my girl looking at
this now, I'm just playing no, no, she's a pastor, So.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Go ahead. I went my vault, man.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
And I tried to bring something out there. You know
it probably be special to you because you got a
couple wow and you know, like DJ Clue, a lot
of artists back in the day would say they would
love to have the first song on the DJ Clue song, Right,
So I opened up this uh DJ drama boys in
the hood, and you're telling them what that song.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Is that opened up right there? Oh man, them boys
is opening up that gangster grills, right yeah, them boys.
So you made a gangster grills. Wow, I never knew this.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Yeah, and you got your production a lot of because
it wasn't just them boys, right.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
And I did three records on this album.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Wow, that's crazy. Yeah, we did this album man, and
out of West Studio. We did a lot of that
down at Patchwork Patchwork Shouts and Jez Look. So we
was all clubbing at that time. And then by the
time Jez got on that record and he put that
that historic verse on there, Yeah, that was like shout
out to Meach and all them boys. We was all
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just hanging out at that time, man, and people thought
it was a BMF record, you know because every time
and shut out the meats man like Meach, you would
think the supporting love he would show when this record
came on. I got to the point I think I'm
thankful to meet that he made me stop spending money
(40:19):
in the club, because I'm like, you know, he made everybody.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
I think he'd be like, whoa this is.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
I'm like, man, I'm like, I done spent by five,
coming home soon, I'm thinking I'm doing something.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
But Meach coming there with a backpack man, and boy,
he letting it go to one. But he was the
one that pack.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
He did a lot of promo behind this song and
this whole boys in the Hood movement.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Man, but shut out the meats man. I tell people
said it on previous episode.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
I've never seen a street marketing campaign like being that
bill for Gez And it won't be another one. It'll
never be a street marketing campaign.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
It won't be another man like me did it?
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Big?
Speaker 3 (41:00):
He put Atlanta in a position to word, if you
didn't know about Atlanta, you would think Atlanta's paradise.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Man, I'm sure the Atlanta business borrel was very thankful
for me to being meth foh stuff because they drove
a lot of people to move here, to come here
and spend money on hotels, liquor stores everything. Yeah, So
Atlanta business bureau, y'all better think.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Big beach and being shut out man.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Yes, indeed, man, And I just closed this out with
you know, we all fathers, and we talked about fathers,
and I want to ask you. You know you got
a son, you say, fifteen years old, Christmas coming up?
What would you like for Christmas?
Speaker 2 (41:38):
One?
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Let's put I like, you know, power to tongue, but
also the best gift your son has ever gotten you. Man,
he gave me these socks. Man, that some type of
way he got my picture on the socks, and it
was just like that was creative thoughful. Yeah, you know,
because I tell everybody, you know, don't give me the
(42:00):
for Christmas, man, like, you know, just get me a
pair of socks or something.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
And he got me something and that was just really cool,
you know what I mean, Like my little little dude.
And I'm like, you know, that's what made me like,
you know, I really love this little dude more. You know.
It ain't nothing like being a dad man.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
So he my only boy, So you know, I'm like, man,
you know, he can't do no wrong in my eyes,
but I you know, I make sure and I'm thankful
that he's, you know, real respectful and he's definitely.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Respect he's very well put together young man. Yeah, I
appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
I mean, you got four girls, you know what, and
I've seen a picture of you and all of them
and they look all like you. Yeah, definitely, man, But
that's a blessing to man. What about you, Jay, what's
the best gift one of your children about you?
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Uh? My kids sent a couple of strippers from Magic
City one year. Oh they got me. Yeah, they paid
for them and all that, so they knew what daddy
likes and they came with it. Well, you know, it's
the camera is watching. So I just wanted that like that.
Thank you for my children. Know what my vices are, girls,
and sometimes you know, you gotta know what.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
You gotta know what your daddy vices are. I don't
no power, I don't pop no pills, you know, but
you know I got other things that other things that
would be considered vice.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Man. Well, I want to thank you Nitty for your
contribution to the culture. Man.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
Again, that tag is influential. That's you powerful. It still
rings off. I just did the rock the bells cruise man.
Thank you them boys. It's going down. Were in the
middle of the ocean and Bahamas. I'm watching generational people, old, young, white, black,
all generations to your beach man. You're powerful, You're influential.
I want to say thank you for coming with story
camp there.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Jay.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
Thank you when he said your name was on here.
It was an honor just to know it, you know,
So thank you for what you're doing being a real
solid brothers out here. Love saying to you man, you
keep doing what you're doing to new place. Man like
we Atlanta and not just Atlanta, but the culture needed
somebody like you to really know what you're talking about. Man,
I respect you, and I watch you a lot. I
watch every move you make. Man, So keep doing what
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you're doing. Man, keep God.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
First, Ninny Beaks special segment, New Face was there. I'm
Jerry Clark aka the Legendary Jed. We'll see y'all next week.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
Sign it off.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
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