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January 3, 2024 38 mins

Hey there. Happy 2024! We are bringing in the new year and a whole chapter of new guests here on The 615 House Podcast. Appreciate our folks at IHeart, our on set producer Matt Macliwain, editing team at Q6, and all of you for listening! 

This next artist had a big 2023 and I have a feeling it will be an even bigger 2024. After meeting John Harvie and signing a publishing deal in 2022, he had a breakout hit “Sneakers” that led to his deal with Atlantic Records and an EP “How To Lose A Girl in 7 Songs.” His latest EP “I’m So Good at Being Alone” came out last fall in October and he is now going on his first headliner tour this year. Please welcome to the podcast.... Knox.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Did you blow two grand on tequila shot?

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (00:02):
But I won that two grand, so it's like, did
I really even spend money?

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Guys? What is up?

Speaker 4 (00:21):
We are back bigger than ever. Happy twenty twenty four.
We are bringing in the new year and this new
chapter of podcasts. We got a ton of new guests
this year. You're tuning into the six one five House Podcast.
I want to thank our host iHeart for making this happen.
Our producer on set, Matt mcwaane, How you doing, Maddie,
You're looking good? Back there, come on, he's ready to go,

(00:41):
our editing team at Q six, and of course everyone
for listening. I feel like we've started to build a
nice little culture here on the sixty one five House Pod.
But here's the deal. It's twenty twenty four. I said,
I got to bring in a big guest to kick
it off. So this next artist, he had an electric
twenty twenty three. He met his buddy John Harvey and
signed a publishing deal in twenty twenty two, then put

(01:01):
out his own music.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
He had a breakout hit.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
Sneakers, led to a deal with Atlantic Records, and I
think he's got two week peas. There's how to lose
a girl in seven songs, right, and then we got
his latest EP, which is I'm So Good at Being Alone.
And he's going on his first headlining tour, well big
headlining tour this year. Please welcome into the house.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Drum roll knocks, Let's go, Baby's good. How did I
do on that, dude?

Speaker 2 (01:26):
That was, honestly as as a homie.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Yeah, the research was.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
I mean, that couldn't have been any better.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Dude. I had to dig in a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
Although I feel like I have some secrets just because
I've known you for a couple couple of years and
now in Nashville that we're going to get into. But
I wanted to make sure that I helped to homey out.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
So yeah, dude, you're a professional, You're pro.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
I try. I try, man. You know they say I
got a face for radio. Dude, you have the voice.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
That's what I was thinking the whole time you were
doing that intro, and I was like, damn, dude, you're
not messing around.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
No, no, no, it's it's a lot of fun, dude.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
I will say the best part about these is that
I get to reconnect with people that I haven't seen forever. Yourself. Like,
I feel like we've known each other for I want
to say four or five years.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Dude, it's been I would say probably closer to five.
Like we met, I mean we met like right when
I moved here. Yeah, Like I remember your twenty first birthday.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
I remember that time, dude. It's crazy.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
We were Yeah, dude, we were bouncing around. We had
that we had a house in Germantown that I remember you.
You came out with a couple of friends and we
wrote some tunes and then we were playing like any
writers round in Nashville.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
That was like that would let us have? Those are
the days?

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Man?

Speaker 1 (02:27):
It was fun, dude.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
But it's been it's been kind of insane to watch
your growth the past couple of years. I like to
be that person and I like to brag a little
bit and be like I knew he was going to
be a star.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
I did. I did know that success was coming for you, man.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
But it's just it's cool to see like a homie,
you know, actually bring the vision to Fruition.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
So thanks, congrats and everything. Dude. What uh what what
was the best part about twenty twenty three for you?

Speaker 4 (02:52):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Dude, I mean honestly, just like seeing it come to life,
like like really, you know what I mean, Like so
many people have the the the TikTok moment that puts
them you know, kind of in the lights for a minute,
and that that like happened, but then seeing like kind
of holding onto it and actually building like a good

(03:15):
foundation of fans and people that are really dialed into
not just sneakers, but you know, everything that came after
you know.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
Yeah, dude, I feel like that's one thing that's been
crazy is watches. A lot of people have these moments
of virality and then you know, I hate to say it,
but years go by and they kind of died off.
I feel like for you, like your moment of virality
was just the introduction, and now there's been this massive
base that's been created. It's been so sick to see, dude.
And the tour that you had with the Camino guys. Yeah,

(03:43):
how like talk to me, what was it like playing
with band Comino?

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Dude? I mean, you know as well as anybody like
back then.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
I've been a Camino fanboy for like, you know, since
I moved to Nashville. So now now they're like homies,
which is even sicker. But dude, it was crazy, Like
sneakers came out on TikTok, like very first video that
went viral, you know, Like I think it was like
the fourth video I ever made, you know, did like
a couple million views, and then three weeks later I

(04:10):
was on the road with Comino, Like it was like
it was like that, and uh, yeah, it was wild, bro,
And honestly, I think they really helped kick start exactly
what we were talking about. How how virality it's hard
to like stick with it. The good thing about it
is that while I was having that moment, I got
to go out and be in front of real people
and went over like real fans in real time. Yeah, So,

(04:33):
like big shout out to those guys for taking me out,
because I feel like that really did kind of set
the stage for the foundation that we've made.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
You know, dude, I think I think you make a
good point too, Like it's pretty easy for somebody, well,
if it pops up on their feed, they might click
the follow or the like button on TikTok. But there's
a difference between that and getting people to buy like
merchandise and go to a show and actually sing your
songs and there was a clip.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
We'll have to pull it off here.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
There's a clip from your Instagram of you singing at
nineteen seventy five, which record came out this past year,
and everybody in the crowd, like word for word, knows
the song. That's got to be an unreal feeling to
just tell people like that.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
It's wild, man.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
I mean mainly mainly because I'm still doing after like
six years of doing writers rounds and writing with people
in Nashville, I'm still I'm still doing exactly what I
was doing, you know. I'm still I still make the
songs of my buddy Spencer obviously, you know, and it's
still just me and the homies, cooking and bedroom studios.
It's just now people listen to it, and so especially

(05:36):
that video is from La, so it's even more mind
blowing seeing something that far away from home and seeing
that many people like you know, losing their minds over.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
It's like, bro, we just we made this in our
bedroom just vibe and you know.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Right, it's crazy. I love it, dude. Well, I do
want to.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
I want to start back to the Sneakers journey a
little bit, because you had one of the fastest. I think,
like rises with that song, like I remember, I see
you post it and gets a little buzz right, a
couple of million views, and then I see I can't
remember her name, but there's a creator online, Genevieve.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Genevieve. Yes, he was like a home review. Yeah, yeah,
and she.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
Creates this dance and the thing just takes off. It's like, yeah,
thousands and thousands of people using this song, Like what
was going through your mind when this happens?

Speaker 3 (06:19):
I mean, honestly, it was kind of funny because out
of all the songs I had, Like if you would
have told me that Sneakers had, because like we had
the whole ep made before Sneakers even came out, So
out of all of those songs, if you would have thought,
if you would have told me that Sneakers would have
had a viral like dance, or that I wouldn't even
have a song that is like a viral TikTok dance, yea,

(06:41):
I would have been like, there is simply no way.
And so yeah, seeing that many people, you know, every
time I was getting on TikTok, it was just more
people doing doing this dance. It was like, what is happening.
I mean, it still doesn't even make sense to me now,
Like when I look at it, it's like, what is
what is going on?

Speaker 4 (06:57):
Yeah, it's awesome, dude, it's and it's still can with people,
Like people are still doing.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
The dance to this day, which is crazy. It's crazy.
I have to ask you, ever do the sneaker dance
on stage yourself?

Speaker 3 (07:07):
No?

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Absolutely not. I I don't even know. I couldn't dance
if I wanted to. But I am.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
I'm trying to. Uh, I'm begging my label. I'm like,
send one email. I'm trying to get it in Fortnite.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
I don't know if it's.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Going to happen, but I've been dropping in a lot,
so I'm like trying to see it.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
I feel like it's one thing. It's one thing to
have a viral song on TikTok. It's another thing to
have your song in the game of Fortnite.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
That's what I'm saying. That's when you really make it.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yeah, and I've been I've been getting after it in
Fortnite as of late. I haven't gamed a lot the
past couple of years, but now.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
It's like, what's have you played the new version of Fortnite.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Oh yeah, I was. I was ripping it last night.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
What do you think of it?

Speaker 2 (07:41):
It's kind of fire. It's way better than the old,
like the past couple of seasons.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
Are you a builder, no, dude, I'm a no building
knocks the no building.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
I said, that's why I stopped playing, because you know,
you'd get on there and get wrecked by some you know,
fourth grader.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
It's like building nineties on you and it's just no fun.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
And what does that do for your confidence?

Speaker 4 (08:01):
You're like, yeah, I might have put out like some
great music this past year, but a fourth grader could
still beat me in Fortunite.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
You're just screwed, That's what I'm saying. It ruins me, insid.
I just can't.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Things are going too well for me, like to get
on a video game and have my self esteem destroyed
that hard, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (08:16):
I understood. Yeah, I will say.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
You do write a lot of songs that are very
emotional and they come from from deep places.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Is one of those places. Losing to some people on Fortunite?

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Absolutely, bro, Absolutely did you take my saddest song? It
was probably about Fortnite? Yeah, or or cod or just
video games. I'm just bad at video games, right.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
That's that's kind of when when people think of like
like how to Lose a Girl and seven Songs, I'm thinking, uh,
I'm thinking, it's really just you talking about seven games
and fortune.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, exactly. Bro, It's like I didn't get top ten
one dum trash.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Right, dude.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
I will say on that album though, some absolute heaters
like Okay, Like, so I'll here's the thing. I'm looking
at the track list right now. Sneakers is definitely the one.
But if I'm gonna rank, I'm gonna rank your songs. Oh,
let's go on this EP because I'm an honest guy
and I'd like to just be straight.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Here's the deal.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
So, uh, I will say in the seven spot, I'm
gonna start at the worst one. Well, I'm not the
biggest fan of porch Line. Okay, I'm just gonna get
that out there. Okay's stream that's seven. Okay, but here's
the deal. Six, I'm probably going time Machine. That's a
good song. Look, they're all they're all great tracks. In
the five spot, I'm probably rolling hate my guts. Okay.

(09:26):
Now we move to four and I'm gonna put I
don't want to know at four. I love that song.
It's got that catchy I don't want to know. I
don't want three. I'm putting sneakers just because I've heard
it like so many times, because I've streamed it, like
I don't know, probably a million times out of these whatever,
how many streams you have? And now we're down to
the final two. Okay, it's between time Machine and New

(09:47):
York City.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Wait, time Machine and dumps Fire.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
I'm sorry, dumpster Fire, New York City and the winner,
come on, the winner of the Knocks. How to Lose
a Girl in seven Songs EP challenge is it's gotta
be dumpster Fire.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
You you almost had. You almost had my exact list,
you really. I I got to go in y C
number one for me, but I would have I would
have gone everything exactly exactly the same, really, swear to God,
but n y C is my favorite.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
I was playing NYC on those writers' rounds. Yeah, so
that one, I think I'm just a little biased.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
Is that is that song like that's from personal experience
or is it like what the reason behind that one?

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Kind of it was? Dude?

Speaker 3 (10:24):
It was just like it was right before COVID and like,
you know, I'm from Dayton, Ohio, like middle of nowhere,
and I'd never been to New York and.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
I've always just had this like weird obsession with it.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
I still like today, like I have a tattooed on
my pinky and like I just I just always have
had this infatuation with that place. Yeah, and yeah, so
I really just like I really just wanted to write
a song about like dreaming about going there, and then
it just kind of turned.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Into this sad boy, you know, acoustic song.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
But yeah, yeah, that that's like that's definitely my favorite,
just because I've had it for so long. Although I
will say and if any of like my fans are
listening to this, they're gonna kill me too. But my
fans like port Slights is their favorite song, dude. Like
I have people that show up to shows and they
have hashtag justice for port Slights because it doesn't get
a lot of love.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Oh that's awesome. You got some people that are riding.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
D Yeah, bro, people will come, people come, and it's
literally like most of my fans. It was their number
one song on like Spotify raps and which is crazy
to me though, because it's not, like I said, it's
my least stream song, so but maybe it's.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
It's just streamed by people that are really yeah, loyal,
the die hards.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
They're like, if you're a die hard fan, you're riding
for port Slights, I can guarantee you.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Do you have a name for?

Speaker 4 (11:38):
Do you have a name for like your fan club
or no Dudnock supporters.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
In general, there's been a couple, like, there's been a
couple that I've seen. I think, like, I think sneaker
Heads is really funny. I think I think that's solid.
But then there was there was there's a group of
like I have like a like a street team on Twitter.
It's like this group of girls that they kind of
just like they're really hardcore fans. They're really awesome and
they just like kind of help spread the love and whatever.

(12:06):
And I just put out a song called Girl on
the Internet and they made their their street team name
They're the Girls on the Internet.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
And I was like, all right, that's that's pretty creative.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
That is creative. I do like that.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
It's it's good to have you know, people from both
both different sides. There you've got the porch Light Rioters,
and then you got the uh you know, the girls
on the internet. So it's like I see those two
fan groups just going and like there might be some
initial tension, but then they come together and it's like
a beautiful end to them. I do, I do, I

(12:37):
have to. I gotta be honest with you again. Yeah,
I want to talk about the I want to talk
about the line in sneakers. Okay, Okay, you say I
got a fuck with me first, or you know I'm
hotter than fever fever, but I don't run around with sneakers.
I feel like every single time I've seen you in Nashville,
you run around with sneakers.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
You know I rocked the sneaks, But I get a
lot I get at, just are you a fraud kind
of dude? Kind of like I I I take my
sneaker game pretty seriously. You did, but well, I mean
I normally do, but I've been I've been getting blasted
on the internet for these because these are my favorite shoes.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
What do we got?

Speaker 3 (13:13):
What are we There are some air Force ones that
were white slowly turning yellows.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Say air Force ones heavily broken in but.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Do That's the thing.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
They're like, they like, DoD I wore these on stage.
I actually wore these on stage in New York. My
entire label was there and the show went like amazing.
And I come back, come backstage, and my product manager
is like, hell of a show. Don't ever wear those
on stage again. That was like the first thing she said.
I was like, dude, these are like my babies. But
they've just like they morphed to my feet.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Now. It's like putting on a pair of socks.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Dude. I love it. That's great, dude. It just you
break them in over time.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
That's what I'm saying. You know, they're they're my rider dies.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Dude. I love it. I love it, dude. That's very solid.
We got out. We got some more to talk about here.
We got Knocks in studio.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
We're gonna be right back here on the six one
five hours podcast.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
What's up? Guy?

Speaker 4 (14:00):
Is Chris Rudiger your host? Back here six to five
hours podcast. We got my buddy Knocks in the studio.
We talked a lot about twenty twenty three, talk about
how to Lose a Girl in seven songs. We compared
our list and we got to talk about twenty twenty
four because you have a tour given another project, another
EP called I'm So Good at Being Alone? Is there?

Speaker 1 (14:18):
And you now have the is it the I'm So
Good at Being Alone? Tour? Yep?

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
But I feel like, hopefully.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
You're not going to be alone because you're gonna have
a bunch of people coming out to the show.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Dude, it seems like it.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Tickets actually went on sale today and we've sold out
like half the tour already, Like half the city has
already sold out.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
That's a nuts.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah, they went on, they went on.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
They went on sale at ten today, So like, dude,
they're like Chicago sold out, glob.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
Let me ask you, this, is there one city that
you haven't played that you're very excited to play?

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Ooh, was so one of the one of the cities
on the tour. I've played every city on this tour
that's coming up. It's only nine shows. It's like East
Coast run. I've never played Indie though, yeah, and so
I guess I'm just because I've never done it. So
it's like, let's see, let's see what Indy brings to
the table. That's the that's the one that. I don't
know if it will sell out. I feel like all

(15:07):
the other ones will. Yeah, but just not playing there before.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
But you're also hitting You're doing a New York City.
I know you're doing Boston, my hometown. I'm pumped about
that is there.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
And then you're doing.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
Philadelphia too, right, yeah, Phill Where are you playing in Philly?
Do you know the milk Boy the founder founder? Yes,
that's awesome. You're doing it's the whole. It's kind of
that Northeast into back down. Started Nashville.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, yeah, then we hit we hit d C.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Then we'll hit Nashville, Atlanta, Columbus, Chicago, and then Indy.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Not in that order at all, but those are all
the cities.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yeah, that's that's gonna be killer, dude. And you got
also a friend of ours, Mary Joe.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yeah, yes, I forgot that, you know.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
Yeah, I know Mary Joe before Mary Joe became La
Mary Joe, to.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Which obviously she's crushing it as well. Kill Killing, I
love I love the year.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
That's one thing that I did want to I want
to talk to you about is I feel like you've
kept a lot of your homies around, Like you mentioned Spencer, Jordan,
who's an awesome songwriter. You got Mary Joe who's now
coming on tour with you, a good friend of yours.
I feel like you have really found like a community
of people that you can act yourself to like like
walk me through I guess walk me through that process, man,
because I feel like you keep you just keep the

(16:21):
real ones close to you.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Yeah, dude, I'm just like one of those where you know,
you kind of get to this point and then and
then you have you have labels, you have publishers or
whoever that are trying to like throw you into like
rooms like oh, you need to write with these big,
big songwriters who have like hits and like all that
stuff and all that is super fun and I love it,
but it's like, man, like, like I was saying in

(16:43):
the beginning, it's like, bro, I made these songs with
my boys, Like I'm not gonna just ditch my boys, dude,
because now I have the opportunity to go write with
these big people. So and plus I feel like that's
where we get the realist stuff. Like, dude, I went
to LA ten times last year because I didn't really
urge this year. I guess because I didn't really tour
all that much until recently, and I just went out

(17:05):
there and like the songs, like we made good songs,
but like they all just felt like stale man, like
they didn't feel like I was like, nah, man, I
gotta get back to Nashville and get back in with
like the people who helped me make this happen, Like
I always say to Spencer and like Zach Smith and
Cam Becker my producer, and we have a buddy Chandler Egleson,

(17:26):
who's like a phenomenal guitar player. Like I always say
that my music is a representation of what we make.
Just my job is to be the person to go
out and make people listen to it.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
You know.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
I'm just kind of the like even though it says Knox,
like music by Knox is not just me. It's like
I just get to represent all these other super talented guys,
and we really are like such a tight knit family,
like Johnny Townsend included, like all of those guys. Man,
I just feel like it's such an honor to be

(17:59):
able to go out there and represent like such a
freaking awesome and like hard working group of dudes that
like really really deserve it, you know, and so I
always want to keep them as close as I can.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah, dude, I love that you say that. I think
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
I think a big fear or a big thing that
a lot of artists maybe forget about is keeping those
that help you and your team close to you. Because
what good is it if you're I mean, dude, after
this tour, who knows where you're headed. But like when
you're playing Madison Square Garden, you don't want to be
playing it by yourself and not having people close to you,
like I think, sharing in those successes and like also

(18:34):
realizing you're a human being and like, yes, this is
your livelihood, but like you might as well keep your
friends close with this stuff, you know for sure.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Well, dude, I'm just like not, I'm just overly conscious
of the fact that it's like, bro, I'm not the
greatest songwriter in the world, and I'm not the greatest
like singer in the world, and there was it really
took a village to get to this point, Like I
will just never you know, I just I know peopeople
that have kind of gone through this process and they

(19:02):
kind of forget about that and then all of a sudden,
they it kind of goes to their head and they
think that they're the guy. And it's like, I'm overly
conscious that like I'm not.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
I'm not the guy.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
I'm just somebody that you know, gets to be put
in this position because of all the people that helped
get me here, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (19:17):
For sure, speaking of people that we have gotten to
know that are supporters, I know that the guys Danny
g Zac Guarino over at the bread Basketboys, they are
They are huge Knocks fans. And in fact that I
actually called Danny earlier this week and I was mentioning
that he's asking about the pod and mentioned you were
coming on, and I was like, oh, hell yeah, we.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Got Knocks on the pod.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
And to take a little bit from the bread Basket playbook,
I want to do a little game with you.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Oh let's go. If it's anything bread Basket.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
It's it's the it's the rank these five things without
knowing what comes next.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Oh I love.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
So we got one through five, but you don't know
what I'm gonna say after and you have to rank them.
We're gonna start simple and we're just gonna go fast food.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Restaurants. I love it. So first is Chick fil A.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
I mean, you're coming out hot.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
I am coming out hot, But you don't know what
else is on that you're saying.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
I'm gonna put it in the two spot because Chick
fil A in fast food is superior chicken.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
I had it today. I like that. The next one
is Taco Bell.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
All right, this might be a hot take for me personally,
I'm gonna put it in the four.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Okay, it's good, yeah, but it does things to me.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
Yeah, I think it's a good I think it's a
good role player. But I think you also know what
you're getting it.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
I mean, yeah, it gets it done, but it's not
gonna lead the team.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
No, it's not gonna lead the team.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
It's but it's it's gonna get some boards and it's
gonna also hurt.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
In the morning.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
Oh, it's gonna box out for sure. Yeah, we got
Raisin Gaines Chicken. You've had raisin games, Oh, I've had
raised a specialty player. I think that that is sort
of like a three point shooter.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
You for sure, you know it can it can go.
It can go for thirty five, but it can go
for six.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
You know, it's man, Raisin came.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
I'm an Ohio boys, I'm a little biased, but just
to be safe, I'm gonna put it in the three
because I don't know what I don't know what else
you're sitting on.

Speaker 4 (21:04):
You got this is a decent team. We've got Chick
fil A two, Raising King's three, Taco about four. And
here's what we got next. We got BK Burger King.
This is a big decision, going one or five.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
I gotta be Burger King is good. It's very good.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
Honestly, if in my perfect world it would have been
above Taco Bell.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
But you know, you can't the past the King.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
The King can't go number one though it's it's not
number one, and so I'm scared for what is next.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yeah, but I don't think the King can go number one.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
You're putting Burger King in five, all right, which means
you're leaving You're leaving the last option here.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
I'm scared.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
This is the last option for one. This is insane,
and this is a hot this is a hot topic.
Matt's already laughing at this over here.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Scared. Drum roll, please in the one hole, we had
the one and only Mickey d's.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
Hey, honestly, what is it one point six billion burgers
flipped a year?

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Yeah, like, I'll take it.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
Did you think about those numbers of what McDonald's does.
I'm just thinking about how like I'm thinking about just
the wrist flip of how many people globally.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
It's incredible. Lockdown, It's incredible, dude.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
I mean you see those golden arches, and you know,
it doesn't matter what time of day. Although let me
let me, I'm gonna go on a tangent real quick.
Knox is gonna say it's pass on the pod. This
is gonna be no, no, this is real. I'm hot
about this. When did McDonald's stop being twenty four to seven?

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Bro?

Speaker 4 (22:24):
What that's a bunch of bullshit, which is what it
starts happening. Futting back on the hours, get out of here.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
I will be piss hammer leaving somewhere in east and
I'm like, I need mcde's and it's two am, and like.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yeah, it's like, what is this? Where else are you
pulling over there? That they were the go to guy? Yeah,
that's when I think of McDonald's.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
I think of eight to ten beers one am to
four am, and I think of quarter pounder with fries
and maybe the offshoot that the ice cream machine's working,
which is.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Which is not? Yeah, and then you swap in the
die coke. But that's it.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
That's it, dude.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
I thought I thought this was twenty twenty three. Bro, Like,
what is happening? I don't understand.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Hey, McDonald's, get your shit together.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
Mcdee's, I'm coming for you. I had to get that
out because I've been hot about that.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
For a minute.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
Do you have any other hot takes while we're I
just want to open the floor while you're here.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
I mean, Lebron's the goat? I mean, can I say
that on the pod?

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Bro?

Speaker 4 (23:15):
I mean you can't do look that, this pod is.
This POD's unzensered. You can say what you want, and
you're gonna get a lot of flak for that.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Dude. Honestly, I want people to argue with me in
the comments.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
I'll go all day. Bro, Yeah, you would take Lebron
over everyone.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
I'll take Lebron over everybody, dude, everybody.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
It's not even close.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
I watched this man last night, thirty nine years old,
put up thirty he didn't play the third and fourth quarter.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
Dude is putting up more points in the back half
of his career than he was in the front half.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
It's just crazy.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
It's the craziest thing I've ever witnessed. I'm actually the
craziest thing I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
A hot take. I might take thirty nine Lebron over
twenty five year old dude. That's a hot.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Take, dude.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
But the thing is, he's so he's so intelligent about
the game of basketball, Like it doesn't even look like
he's trying. Yeah, and he's got all his gray hair
and his beard, and then you look up he's got
a triple double.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
It's like, dude, he kind of.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
Reminds me of a guy out of out of the
New England program named Tom Brady. You know, just played
beyond his years, you know, really locked in, you know,
and knew how to play the game effectively.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
One multiple franchises rings, right.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
I mean, but you know, all these MJ stands are
gonna come at me and they're going to say, because
I'm from Ohio, that I'm biased, But.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
The facts are there.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
I'm just saying, Mick D's needs to be open twenty
four to seven and Lebron is the goat.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
There you go, that's all. That's all you get out
of this podcast. It's still it's still worth that's worth it.
Well that was pretty good, dude. I enjoyed that. That
was a little bread basket segment for you guys.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Shut out the dide. I got to do the bread basket.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Yeah, you are on the basket boys, Yeah, dude.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
And to be honest with you, this is embarrassing. I
hope Danny listens to this.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
But like the bread Basket started, and you know, this
would have been in February.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
I was about to put out the first CP.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Yeah, and I wanted to text Danny so bad and
be like, bro, can I he's be on the basket,
But I didn't want to.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
I didn't want to be that guy you want to
overstap him.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
So I was like, I'm gonna wait for him to
ask me, and then I he came. Like I said,
he came to the LA show a couple couple weeks
ago whatever, like month and a half ago, came out
and we were after the show.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
We went out and you know, hanging out whatever, and.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
He goes dude, we got to get you on the
basket and I literally looked out of my game. I
was like, Danny, I've wanted to ask you that. I'm like,
this is the biggest this is the biggest day of
my life. And then we got to do it, and
like video did, like two million views kind of popped off.
Like it was beautiful, dude, it was. It was a
beautiful full circle moment.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
So Danny, dude. They are great people, I will say
the best. I love I love working with Danny. I
don't know Zach as well, but I've gotten to know
him a little bit more just from going out to
l A and they're just really rock solid people. And
I wanted I want to get a little sample of
a Knox Danny g Old School a song that I found.
I found this back in the catalog we used to cook.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
I'm honest side yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
God, oh my god, dud dude, I don't care.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
That's why it's still myself.

Speaker 4 (26:05):
What a legendary track. You got to go deep into
Knox's catalog, but it is there. It's solid, and it's
going anywhere right way.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Dude.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
This is uh, this might have been inspired a little
bit inspired by them, but also just inspired by my
growing obsession with betting sports. But I want to do
a little I want to do a little over under
game with you.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Say, that's very simple.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
I'm just I'm setting the Vegas lines and I want
you to tell me if it is over under. So
the number that we're looking for right now is ten,
and the over under of that is how many people
have asked you to do the Sneakers dance on stage?

Speaker 1 (26:43):
It's the over, it's the over.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
It's it is the over, dude, And how do you
tell them?

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Because it's like, obviously I love the Sneakers dance changed
my life, Like obviously there's.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Nothing but love there.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
But like me, like if I was at a show
and there was an artist on stage who did their
own viral dance like I might, I would probably vomit.
Like I'd be like, brother, you can't be doing you
can't be doing it. And plus I just like I
look weird, man, Like I just need If I have
a guitar on stage, I look cool.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yeah, but when I don't, I got a I got
a newly long body, Dude.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
It's weird.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
It's like it's like the headline like Knox does his
own dance on stage, and ticket sales plummet over the
next week.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
This guy is the worst bro dude.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
Second over under Okay, the over under is fifty okay
on and it's I'm generalizing here, but in the ballpark
of oh my god, you are ed Sharon's little brother.
Oh how many times people have said that to you.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Dude, I gotta go with the over man, it still happens.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
Yeah, you know, even though, like my sound is very different,
but like and honestly, it's like at the point, especially
like because we're both on the same label and like
it's actually pretty sick, like me and him share some
of the same team, like I got did I got
to meet him, uh when he was in Nashville.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
It was wild, bro, I didn't even know how to act.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
I literally just I shook his hand and I told
him I loved him, and I was like, you were
the reason I make music and you were the goat
And he was like.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
All right, was he like takeing him? I was like,
well that was weird, you know it?

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Well, no, because I think he gets that so much.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
But also he could have been a little thrown because
I was introduced as like, hey, this is like Knox
he just signed with Atlantic, and I was like, yeah,
oh but yeah, no, I still I still get a
lot people are people do it, but they it's it's
a nicer way now where they say it's the songwriting
like they do, it's not. And obviously the red hair.

(28:41):
But like I used to just get like acoustic guitar.
It's like shoot, it's like all right, but now it's like, no,
you like write songs with the same vibe except it
has like electric guitar.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
And I'm like, I'll take that all day. So yeah,
I would say over, I get that a lot.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
Sof dude didn't didn't edge share and just pull on
to Santa's Pub in Nashville and.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
Yeah, so so that was where I met him. It
was actually crazy. I okay, so me and Ed we ship.
I'm about the I'm about the saw flex for the
camera real quick. But me and Ed are product manager.
Her name is Nicole. She's the goat. She's the absolute goat.
She she pretty much handles everything for me on the
label side, that's not music, everything else prod, you know,

(29:25):
like marketing everything. So she also does the same for
Ed and uh so she came to town, was coming
for the show, and she was actually the one that
put together that thing, and so she was saying like, yeah,
so like I went to the show with her. I
went to both the Ryman Show and uh the other one.
And then she was like, Okay, after the show, we're
gonna leave a little early. We're gonna go because he's

(29:47):
going He's going to Santa's Pub, so we need to
like be there and then I'll intro you and whatever.
And so we like get to Santa's and there's like
a wedding party happening, and me and her are the
only people in the bar and Santa himself Santa Claus.
It was Santa Claus by the way, this man's real. Yeah,
but yeah, we were the only three people in the

(30:08):
bar that knew he was pulling up. And then we
pulled up and there's like a wedding party there and
we're like, brother, these people are about to like lose
their mind. And then yeah, so we're like sitting there
like waiting around and then uh.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah, and then he pulled through and.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
Saying, you imagine it's your wedding day and you go
to like Santa's Pub to turn it down and you're like, all,
this is like a fun celebration, and then ed, Charon
pulls up on your wedding.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
That was what That's what I was thinking the whole time.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
It's like and he like sang a song with the
bride or whatever, and then like, dude, it was a
crazy night. And then like on top of it, just
to make it even like cool, like my best friend
from back home in Ohio just happened to be in
Nashville that weekend, and so I got to like.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Talk Dad very briefly, but you know, still like whatever.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
And it was wild because I'm like sitting there having
this conversation with him, and he finally like scurries off
and you know, goes and does the wedding party, and
I like turn around. And my best friend from like
back home, who like, you know, he works in fire dance,
lives like a very normal not I see a sher
and type lifestyle, and so I like turn around and
he's like, what is happening right now?

Speaker 2 (31:09):
I was like, that's it, bro. I was like, that
was crazy. It was wild, man, it was a really
wild experience.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Dude, is so wild. I think it's so funny.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
You say that because I have a lot of friends
that don't work in music, as I'm sure you do
as well, and the difference between people that work in
entertainment and don't just on a fundamental level is jurassic.
But then you get into the nitty gritty of it,
where like, you know, I have homies back home that
are freaking out about your music and other peers in Nashville,

(31:39):
I know, and for me, it's like no, like like
Knox is just the boy, you know what I mean, Like, yeah, dude,
don't I love your music, but I will always support
you I shows, but like I don't look at you
just because of your music because you're a homie.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
You know, and if you did, you would be weird
for that weird.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Yeah, dude, it's funny you say that because you're absolutely right.
Like some of my like, dude, like my aunts, like
so I have like I have a huge family, So
I have like seven aunts. They think I'm like, they
think I'm like, can't go out in public, jay Z
level famous. I'm like, brother, you do not understand. My
life is completely normal. Like I'm I might get recognized.

(32:16):
Nashville is a little different, like going out to like
a bar and east that's a little different, like obviously
there might be one person, but even still like it's
not like I mean, you know, it's not there's.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
A culture in Nashville too of like you see somebody,
everyone more or less is doing music, so you see someone,
you might be like.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Yo, I fuck with your ship. Yeah, but you're not
like those are the best people.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
The guys that walk by and they tap you, They're like, hey, bro,
I fuck with you. They just walking out like I'm
like I want yeah, yeah, but no, dude.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
That that is also that's the cool thing about Nashville,
but also the terrifying thing about Nashville is like.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
You know, I mean, you know me, I love to party,
love it.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
But now it's like it's it's a little nerve racking
because you don't know, like somebody can know you. But
the Nashville etiquette is it like no one's gonna come
up to you. So you can walk into a place
and there might be ten people that know you and
you're piss hammered acting like an idiot, but they're not
gonna come up and say anything because it's Nashville.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
So it's like a.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Cool thing, but also a bad thing, like, oh man,
I can't be too stupid, which is unfortunate because I
love getting stupid, but.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
You know, yeah, you know it is.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
I love it, dude. That's the best way to say.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
Right, It's like I do kind of want another beer,
but also like I might get put out on the.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Literally literally and because it's like when I have beers
that turns to tequila shots and then one tequila shot
turns to like a lot of tequila shots and it's.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Bad, dude choice.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
Oh yeah, dude, Columbus, I like, we played a show
there and had a nine day break and we had
gone to a casino in Iowa and I walked in
with one hundred dollars put it on a roulette table
and I don't know what was happening, but I left
with two grand and after one hundred dollars, so all
of a run, dude, it was incredib yeah, it was fire,
just middle of Iowa.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Random.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
And then we went to this Columbus show and so
I was like, why just have this, like random two
grand I bought.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
I was buying tequila shots for everybody, but.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
I probably, like I spent I mean a lot now,
like I I was buying tequila shots for.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Everybody while did you yes or no question? Yeah? Did
you blow two grand on tequila?

Speaker 3 (34:27):
I didn't, but the tequila that I had sent me
to another casino in Columbus at about two a m.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
That night, where that's where I lost the.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Rest of the blame. Half of it on tequila, half
of it on Yeah, I don't know, deion.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Yeah, but but I won that two grand. So it's like,
did I really even spend money?

Speaker 1 (34:46):
I look at that? Isn't that even? Actually that's in
that positive That's a win of the night.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
That's unreal, dude.

Speaker 4 (34:51):
Well we have we have a little bit of time
left and I do have to shout out my boys
at and girls at Area Western Peril Company. I got
the hoodie on. They love to do this segment. It's
rapid fire question.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
So the way it.

Speaker 4 (35:05):
Works is Maddie, here winds up sixty seconds on the
clock and I'm just going to ask you and whatever
comes to mind you you you spill it out, baby.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
There's no thinking right say less.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Here we go, Maddy, be ready.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
Rapid Fire Questions presented by areat three two one dream collaboration,
Little nas X.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Do you wear sneakers or boots?

Speaker 4 (35:27):
Sneakers, YEP talker or texter M talker? If you could
instantly master one skill, what.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Would it be? One thing I wish you could do
producing I agree with that is double dipping allowed? Yes?
Or now?

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (35:39):
I WHOA, We're gonna have to talk about that.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
If you could push a button and make everyone in
the world seven percent happier, but it would also place
a worldwide ban on all hair styling products, would you
do it?

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Look at my hair?

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Yeah? Absolutely, happiness.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
First baby, If there was hair in your soup at
a restaurant, would you say would you turn it back?

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Or now? Probably?

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Yeah? I think yeah. You have to dream venue to
play ooh.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Uh uh Terminal five in New.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
York great spot.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
And then last question, and don't think too hard on this.
Would you rather cuddle a baby panda or a baby penguin?

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Penguin?

Speaker 1 (36:18):
Why?

Speaker 4 (36:18):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Just because I like how they waddle? Bro I don't
know if they're cuddling.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
But they're sick and may be sliding on their belly.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
They do we slide crazy?

Speaker 4 (36:27):
Oh my god, look at that Knox just slide it
into the sixty second Rapid Fire presented by Area that
way tight boom. We're gonna We're gonna have to look
back at the tapes and see you. But you might
have cracked the leaderboard there we have. We have a
running list of the leaderboard as to as to who
does Rapid Fire questions competitive. There is some prize at
the end which we haven't exactly decided, but I'm sure
I think I won. Well, dude, it's been awesome having

(36:52):
you on here.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
What uh anything else we can look forward to in
twenty twenty four.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
Dude, just uh yeah this headline tour. If you haven't
got tickets, I would go get them. Tickets went live
today and they have They're almost sold out, so come
like get to MASAP and then uh yeah, bro, we
got a bunch of new music. Like I'm like, I've
just been in that mindset for the past year. It's
like I'm not stopping putting out music. I'm not making
people wait. So it's like top of the year, We're

(37:18):
back at it. Single single single and then hopefully maybe
even like a full full record this time. Forget about EPs.
I'm past that. I want to do an album.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
I love well you did two EPs. I feel like
now it's time to give people the.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Time for the debut.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Dude. You got to let them know that's badass. Man.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
Well, I can't wait. I hope it. I hope the
album drops this year. I'm definitely gonna hit your shows
as I think everyone else should. And dude, it's see,
this is just again. I can't reiterate this enough, but
the reason I do these podcasts is because I get
to just connect and catch up with good friends like yourself,
and I feel like we could literally be at a

(37:54):
pub right now having a beer and just catching up
and it's no different.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Yeah, I was gonna say it'd be the exact thing.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
I mean, hell do after this, maybe we just go
get it because you know what I mean, it's like
it's too nice. So I really appreciate you for taking
the time. Dude, know that I and the rest of
us here all on this podcast are supporting you.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Brother.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
Dude, You're the man. Bro, it's been it's been a pleasure.
Pleasure indeed.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Well, we'll see se y'all next week. Bring an episode
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