January 17, 2024 • 25 mins
Nobody thinks of New York as being a place of country music lovers or country music stars, but this next guest may prove us wrong. After teaching himself to play instruments growing up, he drove himself to be better at singing and songwriting. A crazy trip to LA led him to meeting Ryan Tedder and ultimately signing a deal with Runner Music and Sony Music Nashville. Outside of his music career he is a intense pickelball player that will give you a run for your money. We talk about it all here with... David J.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Dude, you might be the most problematic person we're going
to have on this podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I want you to know that I took a massive
risk tapping me on today. What's up, guys, Chris Rudeger here,
Welcome back to another episode. I'm pumped because I got
a good friend of mine. He grew up in New York,
(00:25):
moved to Nashville, put out a bunch of music. He
already has one hundred and twenty million streams, signed a
huge deal JV between Sony and with Ryan Tedder, which
we're going to talk about. I've been so impressed in
the past two years. You've just completely blown up. And
the crazy part is you still can't even purchase a
legal beer.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
You know. That's working on my mind. We're working on it.
But I'm happy to be here right. Thank you for
having me today.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Look, David Jay, welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
To be here, and you even brought an entourage too,
You brought you brought probably the biggest entourage we've had
for podcasts so far.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
My boy.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yeah, it's awesome. They travel with you quite a bit.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Huh, everywhere I go.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah, I even live with one of them. Really, do
you ever get tired? Of each other or you guys.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Oh somebody gets so many fights. Yeah, we got in
a fight at rehearsals today. I feel like that's that's
the brotherly love that I said. If you don't fight,
then I don't like you.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
There.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I'm really nice, and it's no good.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I love it, dude. Well, hey, it's been it's been
a crazy couple of years. I do want to talk
about your start and how you got into music in
the first place, because I feel like we didn't grow
We actually grew up fairly close to each other, but
I didn't really I didn't know you until you moved
to Nashville. But like, what got you into music in
the first place?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
So, I mean I was gonna do. I wanted to
go to college for sports, like I would do football
and wrestling, baseball all since I was like four years old.
And then I was watching the Justin Bieber movie one
day and I was like, this looks a lot cooler
than playing sports and stuff. So I quit every sport
like that day and sat in my basement in a
little closet and learned how to sing and play guitar.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Let me guess you were You were on the sidelines
of the sports teams anyway.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Dude, I was I was quarterback. I gave it up.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Really, you had a good arm.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I mean it was good like it worked. Yeah, I
got the ball where I need to go. It was
like a hot a civic like gets you to a
to b you know for her what a reference that
bitch moves?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
So so did you quit? You quit all these sports?
But did you play? Like you play any instruments at
the time?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Do you know I played? How'd you learn I got
kicked out of the choir. I was like the kid
that always got kicked out in the hall for like
chorus class and band. I used to play like the
snare drum always got kicked out in every music class
because I like didn't really care. I didn't try.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Did you ever get sent home.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
One time?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
One time?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Not in choir class?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Though? It was.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Sorry that We're gonna refrain from talking on the pot
about when did when did you cause you play guitar
and piano?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Like when did you pick pick that up?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I'd say, right when I watched the movie I like
got the guitar I had in my closet for three years,
and I was like, I just can try to learn
this or I'm gonna suck at it. And then when
I like to learn stuff and like be really good
at it, so I can't be bad at something. So
like I learned it and I like took the time
to make sure I was gonna be good enough, and
then like every in it just came after that.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
It's hard work. Hang on, let me guess your first
song was a Justin Bieber song?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Yeah, what was it? One time?
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Do you still play it in shows?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I do all I did it, and when we played
that show in Boston.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I remember you did. I didn't know if that was
a special gift for dude. I know you got you got.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Your guitarist Mike in here. He's smiling too. It seems
like it's his favorite song.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, that guy, he goes.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Far from it. It's awesome, man. And then I mean,
you got on TikTok, Dude, I feel like you had,
like you know, twenty twenty twenty twenty one when it
first started. I feel like you were on the platform
pretty early. Built in the following, Like what made what
made you decide to get online in the first place?
Speaker 3 (03:40):
It was kind of during COVID. I'd say, there's like
nothing going on, so I was like, this is probably
my only bet on making stuff happen right now. So
I like tried to study people and like what they did,
and I kind of just did my own thing in
my car for a while and it's always what are
you doing? Whatever that was, and that helped me like
build what I have now. I wouldn't be here without TikTok.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
So it's crazy, did you Were you studying other people
and then like flipping it to make it your own,
Like what was the like house?
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah, so I'd see other people do stuff and then
like just like writing song. When you write songs, it's like, oh,
I want to song that sounds like that, but you
can't copy it. So it's like I'm gonna tweek that
to that. And then pretty much what you do a
content like you like somebody's video, You're like, Okay, that's sick,
Like let me just do kind of what they're doing
but have my own little spin on it.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
And did you start were you doing this? But like
were you playing live shows at all? Were you kind
of just so like the live.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Shows were is more what I started doing because I
would do like open mic nights before Tiksak, I was
playing like one hundred and fifty shows a year when
I was like fifteen op in New York. Every bar
I could get into that would let me play. I'd
play like the headlines set, being like sixteen with my
mom in the corners, like scared at that, like I
was at a bar.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
But that's awesome. If you finished the show and then
you get in the car and your mom drives you.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Oh yeah, some of the girls, yo, you want to
hang out and drink with us out drum like I
got it like early morning at work, and I bet
you ridiculous. I had to like ninth grade the next day.
I'm like, yeah, I got like this big interview tomorrow.
I gotta go home like as my driver, as my mom.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
This big interview. It's freshman year English. Unreal, dude, But
that's I'd love to hear that you were playing early.
Where did you start playing as a band? Were you
doing solo stuff?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
So I used to open up. I used to open
up for Mike's band. Mike was in a cover vand
and I used to have to open up for them acoustic.
I did not know about that this one bar and
Mike Never. I never liked him.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
What was the bar called.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
It was called Gaffney's in Saratoga. But then I went
from the headline set or the happy hour opening for them,
and then I went to the headline set.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
When the opener becomes the headliner. Yeah, you probably had
a little bit more swag in your step after.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
I had a couple of new pairs of shoes and stuff.
It was corked.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
There you go, that's awesome, dude, I have to say
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I mean, I grew up in Boston, and I think
a lot of people always think of like the Alfa
is the home of country, and obviously there's so much history.
I didn't realize how much New York rides for country music.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Oh it's big, everybody's I tell people I do country,
They're like, there's no country right there. I'm like, where
I live, it's country shit, Like it's all woods and like.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah, and a lot of like a lot of Nashville
artists love going up to New York or Maine or Boston,
like for shows in the summer.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
The country fans like great.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Even Chicago's got a huge like Windy City smokeouts.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
One of the biggest festivals, and I was just up there.
I was like blown away. I'm like, it's crazy. I
thought country music was just south of like of that.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
So okay, So you're playing, you're singing a little bit,
you're having some moments of virality, phones popping off. When
like when did you start putting out your own music?
When it transitioned from just oh I'm gonna sing some
covers and then to you know, oh, this actual original
song I'm gonna put out.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
So I actually put a couple of songs out before TikTok,
like I wrote in Like Us in a studio in Aubany,
and then none of them really like popped off. But
then once I had the TikTok, I didn't. I did
a couple more and then those started like really starting
to elevate things when I did the one day.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I feel like everyone has their first shitty mixtape that
they put out of.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
I deleted it. Well no, actually it's still on it's
on Spotify, but it's under my old last name. Like
nobody nobody ever found it.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Do you care to share what that might be? So
we could?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I mean, they can try to find it. You should
make it real good find stuff out, so I'm sure
they can find it.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Dude, you should make a CD of all your old
songs and have like limited prints of it.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
These are the worst songs, very bad, really bad. Well,
I'm glad that you. I'm glad you've moved up in.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
The world elevated a little bit.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I so it's crazy, man.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I saw you in twenty twenty on TikTok, I saw
like on some of the more viral clips, and then
I started digging in and so you were singing a
bunch of covers right and here on stuff playing. I
was like, Wow, this this dude's really talented. Then you
come down to Nashville, we link up, and I feel
like all throughout this process, I don't remember exactly if
it was the beginning or like, you know, when we
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had met but lost my heartbreak, which is I think
really the kind of the first song that kicked it
off for you, like takes off. Like talk to me
about the process of seeing that song connect with so
many people.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I mean I was like, I was like still living
in New York, like I had nothing really going on.
Then I posted that song and it was like I
didn't even know what to do with my I didn't
even know what to do. It was like I've never
had some I still haven't had a song stream better
than it. It was like my first song out was horrible,
by the way, Like I really hope it could beat
it soon, but but yeah, it's crazy. I was like, Wow,
(08:43):
people like listen to my music and I was I
was going back playing those bar shows that I did
like two years ago after COVID and people were singing
my song now instead of like cover songs, and like, yeah,
it was like just way different when that happened. I
was like, Okay, this is sick.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
That's amazing, dude.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
It's such a good feeling when you look out and
people know the lyrics to your song or how bad
it is when they don't. Yeah, that's also very you
just like waiting like I'm sorry, it's gonna be over
soon to sit there.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yeah, dude, it's awesome. It's crazy, is I think.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I think when that song first came out for you,
it had like like four million or five million streams
in the first month, like and ye the first couple.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Of week week right, it did a million first week.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
That's insane. Do you ever think about, like you ever
think about just like when you get to know you
have a video, it gets a couple of million views,
and that's probably normal for you now, but like if
you actually quantify that and think about like how many
football stadiums that is or how you show, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
And then you're like, oh, you go play a show
and you're like, yeah, I know the words, and then
they know You're.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Like it's work.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Well, I'll tell you what, dude, you put out that
song and you know it lands you your first record
deal and here you are now, which which I want
to get into. So, uh, we're gonna be right back
here on the podcast. We got much more to talk
about with David J.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
All right, what's up, guys, We're back.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
It's about Jay in the House, Lost my Heartbreak, huge
song on Socials, pops off.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
I feel like after that, your dms have to be flooded.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
They definitely weren't as empty as they were before.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I do have to ask, are you are you just
a receiver of messages or are you sliding into dms yourself?
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I mean no, I definitely slide a lot, yeah, probably more,
probably a seventy seventy percent slot fifty percent receiver. Oh wait,
it doesn't add up to a hundred.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
No, it does not. No, David J. Music star, not
a mathematician.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Well, it was a seventy seventy thirty. There you go,
probably seventy thirty understood.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I'm glad. I'm glad we figured that out.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Is there one particular country artist that you wish would
slide into your dms?
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Now's your chance to tell them.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
I mean I've definitely slid into Megmaroni's a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, she now has a new boyfriend.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Did you I saw? I was so upset about that.
I put on my story and I was it was
just ruined by day.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I think.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I think it was a very difficult Monday morning when
the news broke.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
For those of using bro Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Definitely tough. But did she respond when you DMed her?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
No, Ione sent them a couple of times, like send
them again, like maybe maybe they're not cool? Enusty said
that one like okay, she didn't answer on send try
something new, and then that three or four and then
you're like, okay.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
So she's the she's the celebrity country, she's the country.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah, country for sure.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I did see a video recently of you dancing to
a Tate McCray song. Yeah, and I was it was interesting.
Question was was, well, it was interesting, I'll leave it.
I stopped. I watched a little bit and I said,
I'm wound. Check out the comments and I see the
top comment is Tate mccraig commenting big day.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
I called my mom and every day I called I
call her by What what?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
What is? What is? What does David J?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Do?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
When Tate McCrae comments on his post.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
I sat there and looked at it for a minute
and just let it. I just let it sink in.
I called my mom and I was like, mom, she commented,
and she didn't really know who, she didn't really care.
She's like, okay, cool, cool. I go back to work,
hung up. And then I just like called my all
my friends and I was like, this is it, guys.
It's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
It's like a weirdly wholesome move. Sate McCrae comments in
your video and you call your mom. That's awesome, man,
here we go. You see that she should be proud
of you.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Though Tate McCray is a a legend.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
But the comment was all right? But today is today
is where it changed. Today is where it changed.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Hey, it's a new beginning for you, right.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Today was a big deal.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Well, I will say, I'm sure a collaboration with Tate
McCrae is probably something of interest to you. And I
do believe that you guys have a mutual friend by
the name of mister Ryan Tedder.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Good guy.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
How did you and Tedy aor link up in the
first place?
Speaker 3 (12:56):
So here's it's actually a crazy story. So I was
in Los Angeles doing the Voice when I was maybe
fifteen sixteen with my mom last year during COVID, Yeah,
last year.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
So I was.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
I was during like kind of the end of COVID
and I was out there and there was this There
was the lawyer of the artists. I probably even know
if I'm not get in trouble for saying this shit,
but so.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Look at this we get we get all the tea
on this spot. I was.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
I sent him a song and he was like representing
our artist group of the artist on the show. And
I was like, He's like, yeah, send us some songs.
Like I didn't think I was gonna happen. I was like, whatever, fuck,
send a song, and I get a call like nine o'clock, says,
you know, like like this shit. She's like I know
this guy that knows Ryan, and I was like, okay,
Like nothing's gonna happen. This is like whatever, I'm not
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gonna get excited. He's like, go to this house tonight
in Beverly Hills and like just to go hang out
with some people that I know. And we couldn't leave
our hotel room for the voice, Like we couldn't. We
weren't allowed to leave, Like we'll get kicked off and
thrown home right after this.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
But you're sitting there like Ryan Tedder just invited me
to a house party.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I gotta find a way to get out of here.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
So yeah, me and mom, he wasn't that at this party.
I had to go through like the.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
You to go through. It was like a journey to
get to him.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
So me and my mom sneak out of this hotel
like ten o'clock. I'm dressed in like a church outfix.
I didn't know what to wear. I wore like a
collar shirt, you like I was going to church. I
don't know why I brought a guitar. It was like
a whole thing. Me and my mom snuck out of
this hotel, ran down the street, got a uber. We're
in the hills, like twenty million dollar house easily. We're
just chilling at it. We're just like all around all
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these people that wrote big songs for people. I didn't
know what to do with myself. I'm sitting there and
then I ended up playing like a couple of songs
in a room acoustic for like these two girls that
were there, which was a really weird moment. I was like,
I was scared.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
How did that happen? Were there just a guitar and
you picked up? I brought the guitar.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I brought the guitar, and I was like, yeah, strategic,
They're like I want to hear it. I was like
I was, so I was scared of death.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Dude.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
I'm like, I'm not doing down here. We gotta go stares.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
But you knew what you were doing, so I hey, yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
I was like, all right, I'm playing with my mom.
I left my mom downstairs so she didn't go up
stairs for that. And then fast forward, like had some
finally things got kind of going with me and the
guy that was at the party, like knew Ryan, and
then I think Ryan liked some of my stuff and
I was like, okay. And by the way, I took
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Ryan's class, this is a funny part. I took his
like I had like an online studio class. Did you
see that ever? Yea, So he had that and I
got that for Christmas like three years ago, after the
Voice and all that stuff. I got it for Christmas
from my grandma was to take the Ryan Tedder class.
And I was so excited because I was like idolized him. Yeah,
and we like would make songs and like, by the way,
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it's not with him, it's just like he's instructing it.
And I like did a couple of songs on the
thing and Ryan would like listen to the songs maybe
at the end of it, and I'm like, he's gonna listen,
He's gonna love He's gonna love it, hopefully. And then
the end of the class came, didn't listen to my
song and I was really bummed out about that. And
I have like a DM from me texting him like
after I did, I'm like, yo, love the class. Favorite
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part of my day. Never answered it, like sat there
for a while.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Oh man.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Then fast forward this year, stuff finally got going. I
had some like deal offers and stuff, and he's I'm
he invited me over to the house in La this time,
like listening to some new songs, and we sat there
and he liked him. And then he's like, yeah, he
wanted to like somehow work with me. And I was like, yeah,
it's what he did the deal with Sony.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Which congratulations man.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
So it's so it's Tatter and what's the name of
Tatter's company, Runner?
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Runner?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Right, So it's Runner and Sony and here in Nashville
and you guys are crushing it.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Do you do you remember the first time you met
Ryan Tedder?
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Scared to death? I would run you through it. So
I'm sitting in at the back part of a house,
main house up there, it's like his studio house. I
got invited there. I was shaking the whole time. He
was so scared, sitting in the back room waiting with
a Brandon Silverstein, who's the other guy that signed me
with them, And we're out there. All of a sudden
he was walking out. I started like shaking, Dude, I
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didn't know what to do. I like stood up and
like tried to shake his hand, but I think he
was going for a dap, so I kind of hit like, yeah,
you had the awkward we already a shitty start to
the to the time, and then.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
See when you don't hit the dab correctly, it's like,
where do we go from here?
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Did you think you were going to lose your deal
because you didn't dab?
Speaker 3 (17:12):
I thought I didn't do it right?
Speaker 1 (17:14):
And then super fad.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
So then we're outside and he's like, all right, listen,
like hear some of your songs and I was like, oh, ship,
like this is not gonna be good. I was gonna
tell me they suck like all this stuff, played them
and somehow like liked him, and uh, fast forward we
now we were right together and stuff like a lot
of good things have happened. He's a very good person
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to help lead and absolutely look up to him a lot.
So yeah, it's been very good.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Dude, small world man.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I like crazy stories like that happened in music, not
necessarily always to the Ryan ted Or, but I hear
these stories of like it couldn't be like right place,
right time and connecting and.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
It's such a relationship driven industry.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I'm just glad that you found somebody that I think
is perfectly aligned with you and your vision and I'm
just for for all this new music. I will say,
you have an EP. It's coming out. We did like
in a couple of weeks. I'm pretty sure, So like,
talk to me about writing a CP. What what's what's
the process?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Yeah, I mean we did the lead single off it
is a song I wrote with him. So it's really cool.
I'm pretty pumped for that one.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
And what's it called?
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Uh, it's called rest of your Life?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Rest of your Life, Let's go classic lover boy? Yeah?
Is it? Is it like a wedding song?
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yeah, maybe I'm looking for a song to walk down
the aisle. It's gonna be a while. I'm not anywhere
close to getting married, but I'll put it in my
queue for seven years from now.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Yeah, got one feet but yeah, so that's gonna be
the lead single. And uh, I wrote a lot of
the songs in his studio at his at the house there.
But then the lead sing I did, I did with him.
But I'm pretty pumped. I mean, i'd definitely say there's
a song for everybody on the EP, like one I
wrote in my hometown in Albany with Mike. We did
we went to the studio one day and we were
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just bored, like messing around, and we ended up writing
a song and it made it. So I'm pretty pumped
for it.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
That's awesome, dude, it's gonna be great.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
I'm I'm excited that you're putting out your first like
a body of work, and you have a song out
now too, after we broke up.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yes, we woke up after we broke up. Is it's
a jam? It's a jam. It's a breakup song. Was
it based off a true story?
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah, it was very unconfident.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Yeah, it is a yeah actual, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
It was kind of It seems like a yeah where
you don't want me asking more questions, but I'm gonna
ask tell me the story.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
No, Like, I just like I had a I wrote
a lot of songs. I probably got my record deal
off songs. I wrote all about one girl.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
This one girl is like it made me. Yeah, dude,
you got to write this girl a check and be
like thank you.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Right, I can't block.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
You've thought about it, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
It's just a bunch of true stories in these songs.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
There you go, man, Well, I'm pumped it comes out.
What's that January what day, January nineteenth. January nineteenth, We've
got a David j ep You guys got to check
it out. Make sure you pre save it right, pre
saved super important. You make sure you get that on
your tiktoks. Dude, I'm pumped about all this new music,
but I could not have you on this podcast without
talking about one very important thing, and that is that
(20:23):
is the sport of pickleball.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Oh, let's go, dude.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
You're a big pickleball guy, aren't you pretty big?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
How often are you playing?
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I try to play every day, about every day. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
There's a lot of Nashville artists that are now playing pickleball.
I've started to dabble in it a little bit myself.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
I don't even think they're not about it.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Do you think you're the best Nashville artist pickleballer?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
You know, I don't want to. I don't want to
be that guy. I don't want to say it, but
I will. I will play anybody that challenges me in
a pickleball match, for sure.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
I think we should do an invitational. I think we
should think I think a Nashville invitational and we get
a bunch of people.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
If you could have one pickleball partner for the rest
of your life.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Who would it be like celebrity or it can be anyone.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
My boy Bob from New York.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
It's not where I thought what's up with Bob? Bob
was like.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
This sixty year old dude. Did we show up every
we play at eight am in New York and he's filthy?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Did you meet Bob through pickleball?
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Really?
Speaker 3 (21:27):
And I love going to play pickleball because nobody talks
about music. They don't even know my name or anything.
So we just play pickleball, just all competition.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Yeah, it's just you and Bob.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah, I mean, I don't want to get too personal here,
but you're all worried that Bob's knees might blow.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Out anytime soon. No, he's definitely had back.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
He's definitely had some questionable falls. Yeah, that I didn't
think you'd recovered from.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Maybe that's part of the dynamic of you guys as
a duo. It's like the guy young guy like you
kind of pick where he's he's not good at. Maybe
you know, Yeah, that's cool, well awsome man. Well, hey,
I like to play this game. You can see him
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(22:07):
with these questions. Most people have been pretty good, but
something tells me that you might be might be the champion.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
So all right, Mattie boy, wind up those sixty seconds.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Let's get this thing in business ready, dream venue to
play Red Rocks Dream collaboration.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Drake, Wow, I like that. Are you a talker or
a texter talker? There you go? Are you ice cream
cake or regular cake?
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Ice cream?
Speaker 1 (22:31):
What's the secret talent? People wouldn't know about you?
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Pick a ball?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
They know about it though they know about it now,
but we'll let it account celebrity crush, he says it quietly.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Do you think pineapple on pizza is allowed?
Speaker 3 (22:48):
No? I don't. I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
We'll talk about them more or later. Are you a
baseball cap or cowboy hat? I kind of feel like, yeah,
you're a baseball right.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
There you go. Do you have your own Netflix account
or do you use somebody else's.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
I have my own Netflix account. I have one of
my ex's Hulu account. It's a log into.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
There you go. That's fair.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Well, you know you're twenty years old, you're get you're
moving up in the world, right, there you go. And
last question, if you weren't doing music.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
What do you think you'd be doing.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
I wanted to be a detective.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
I love, like a detective of what I love, like
police movies and stuff like that's cool, like what like
like nci as, like crime stuff like is it no?
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Like kind of like the more the show swat. Yeah,
if you saw that like that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
I mean I've certainly heard it, I haven't actually watched it.
You should watch it, really have you? Did you take
any classes of detectives?
Speaker 3 (23:43):
I mean pretty good at like finding out girlfriends cheat
on me. That's about the most detective.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
That's the most detective work. Hey, it's a start though, right.
Oh man, that's awesome dude. Well hey, that was sixty
seconds percented by area. That was pretty impressive, Dave. I
have to say I learned something new about you. If
all goes to hell, you're gonna become the next best detective.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
There we go. What's what's his quote? Safety never takes
a holiday. That's a big one. Dude, Are you going
on the road anytime soon?
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Oh yeah, we're gonna do a headline tour in the spring,
a couple of support dates in next year. Yeah, we
haven't really announced yet, but.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
That'll be fun.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Man, headline to headline tour is incredible. Do you know
how many cities yet or it's still think it's yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
I think it's a decent amount.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
A lot is more than some or none, so I
could do that. I love it, dude.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I assume people can connect like you'll post about it
on your socials and online and all that. Well, dude,
thanks for stopping by. I appreciate it. You guys, make
sure you check out this EP. You make sure you
check out Dave online for all this pick up all
highlights as well as his new music, and just hit
the message button inst.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Magmarony. Dude, it's been awesome. Man. You know I'm a
big supporter of Thanks for st
Dude, you might be the most problematic person we're going
to have on this podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I want you to know that I took a massive
risk tapping me on today. What's up, guys, Chris Rudeger here,
Welcome back to another episode. I'm pumped because I got
a good friend of mine. He grew up in New York,
(00:25):
moved to Nashville, put out a bunch of music. He
already has one hundred and twenty million streams, signed a
huge deal JV between Sony and with Ryan Tedder, which
we're going to talk about. I've been so impressed in
the past two years. You've just completely blown up. And
the crazy part is you still can't even purchase a
legal beer.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
You know. That's working on my mind. We're working on it.
But I'm happy to be here right. Thank you for
having me today.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Look, David Jay, welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
To be here, and you even brought an entourage too,
You brought you brought probably the biggest entourage we've had
for podcasts so far.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
My boy.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yeah, it's awesome. They travel with you quite a bit.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Huh, everywhere I go.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah, I even live with one of them. Really, do
you ever get tired? Of each other or you guys.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Oh somebody gets so many fights. Yeah, we got in
a fight at rehearsals today. I feel like that's that's
the brotherly love that I said. If you don't fight,
then I don't like you.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
There.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I'm really nice, and it's no good.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I love it, dude. Well, hey, it's been it's been
a crazy couple of years. I do want to talk
about your start and how you got into music in
the first place, because I feel like we didn't grow
We actually grew up fairly close to each other, but
I didn't really I didn't know you until you moved
to Nashville. But like, what got you into music in
the first place?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
So, I mean I was gonna do. I wanted to
go to college for sports, like I would do football
and wrestling, baseball all since I was like four years old.
And then I was watching the Justin Bieber movie one
day and I was like, this looks a lot cooler
than playing sports and stuff. So I quit every sport
like that day and sat in my basement in a
little closet and learned how to sing and play guitar.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Let me guess you were You were on the sidelines
of the sports teams anyway.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Dude, I was I was quarterback. I gave it up.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Really, you had a good arm.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I mean it was good like it worked. Yeah, I
got the ball where I need to go. It was
like a hot a civic like gets you to a
to b you know for her what a reference that
bitch moves?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
So so did you quit? You quit all these sports?
But did you play? Like you play any instruments at
the time?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Do you know I played? How'd you learn I got
kicked out of the choir. I was like the kid
that always got kicked out in the hall for like
chorus class and band. I used to play like the
snare drum always got kicked out in every music class
because I like didn't really care. I didn't try.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Did you ever get sent home.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
One time?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
One time?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Not in choir class?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Though? It was.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Sorry that We're gonna refrain from talking on the pot
about when did when did you cause you play guitar
and piano?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Like when did you pick pick that up?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I'd say, right when I watched the movie I like
got the guitar I had in my closet for three years,
and I was like, I just can try to learn
this or I'm gonna suck at it. And then when
I like to learn stuff and like be really good
at it, so I can't be bad at something. So
like I learned it and I like took the time
to make sure I was gonna be good enough, and
then like every in it just came after that.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
It's hard work. Hang on, let me guess your first
song was a Justin Bieber song?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Yeah, what was it? One time?
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Do you still play it in shows?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I do all I did it, and when we played
that show in Boston.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I remember you did. I didn't know if that was
a special gift for dude. I know you got you got.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Your guitarist Mike in here. He's smiling too. It seems
like it's his favorite song.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, that guy, he goes.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Far from it. It's awesome, man. And then I mean,
you got on TikTok, Dude, I feel like you had,
like you know, twenty twenty twenty twenty one when it
first started. I feel like you were on the platform
pretty early. Built in the following, Like what made what
made you decide to get online in the first place?
Speaker 3 (03:40):
It was kind of during COVID. I'd say, there's like
nothing going on, so I was like, this is probably
my only bet on making stuff happen right now. So
I like tried to study people and like what they did,
and I kind of just did my own thing in
my car for a while and it's always what are
you doing? Whatever that was, and that helped me like
build what I have now. I wouldn't be here without TikTok.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
So it's crazy, did you Were you studying other people
and then like flipping it to make it your own,
Like what was the like house?
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah, so I'd see other people do stuff and then
like just like writing song. When you write songs, it's like, oh,
I want to song that sounds like that, but you
can't copy it. So it's like I'm gonna tweek that
to that. And then pretty much what you do a
content like you like somebody's video, You're like, Okay, that's sick,
Like let me just do kind of what they're doing
but have my own little spin on it.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
And did you start were you doing this? But like
were you playing live shows at all? Were you kind
of just so like the live.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Shows were is more what I started doing because I
would do like open mic nights before Tiksak, I was
playing like one hundred and fifty shows a year when
I was like fifteen op in New York. Every bar
I could get into that would let me play. I'd
play like the headlines set, being like sixteen with my
mom in the corners, like scared at that, like I
was at a bar.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
But that's awesome. If you finished the show and then
you get in the car and your mom drives you.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Oh yeah, some of the girls, yo, you want to
hang out and drink with us out drum like I
got it like early morning at work, and I bet
you ridiculous. I had to like ninth grade the next day.
I'm like, yeah, I got like this big interview tomorrow.
I gotta go home like as my driver, as my mom.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
This big interview. It's freshman year English. Unreal, dude, But
that's I'd love to hear that you were playing early.
Where did you start playing as a band? Were you
doing solo stuff?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
So I used to open up. I used to open
up for Mike's band. Mike was in a cover vand
and I used to have to open up for them acoustic.
I did not know about that this one bar and
Mike Never. I never liked him.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
What was the bar called.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
It was called Gaffney's in Saratoga. But then I went
from the headline set or the happy hour opening for them,
and then I went to the headline set.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
When the opener becomes the headliner. Yeah, you probably had
a little bit more swag in your step after.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
I had a couple of new pairs of shoes and stuff.
It was corked.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
There you go, that's awesome, dude, I have to say
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I mean, I grew up in Boston, and I think
a lot of people always think of like the Alfa
is the home of country, and obviously there's so much history.
I didn't realize how much New York rides for country music.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Oh it's big, everybody's I tell people I do country,
They're like, there's no country right there. I'm like, where
I live, it's country shit, Like it's all woods and like.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah, and a lot of like a lot of Nashville
artists love going up to New York or Maine or Boston,
like for shows in the summer.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
The country fans like great.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Even Chicago's got a huge like Windy City smokeouts.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
One of the biggest festivals, and I was just up there.
I was like blown away. I'm like, it's crazy. I
thought country music was just south of like of that.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
So okay, So you're playing, you're singing a little bit,
you're having some moments of virality, phones popping off. When
like when did you start putting out your own music?
When it transitioned from just oh I'm gonna sing some
covers and then to you know, oh, this actual original
song I'm gonna put out.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
So I actually put a couple of songs out before TikTok,
like I wrote in Like Us in a studio in Aubany,
and then none of them really like popped off. But
then once I had the TikTok, I didn't. I did
a couple more and then those started like really starting
to elevate things when I did the one day.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I feel like everyone has their first shitty mixtape that
they put out of.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
I deleted it. Well no, actually it's still on it's
on Spotify, but it's under my old last name. Like
nobody nobody ever found it.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Do you care to share what that might be? So
we could?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I mean, they can try to find it. You should
make it real good find stuff out, so I'm sure
they can find it.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Dude, you should make a CD of all your old
songs and have like limited prints of it.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
These are the worst songs, very bad, really bad. Well,
I'm glad that you. I'm glad you've moved up in.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
The world elevated a little bit.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I so it's crazy, man.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I saw you in twenty twenty on TikTok, I saw
like on some of the more viral clips, and then
I started digging in and so you were singing a
bunch of covers right and here on stuff playing. I
was like, Wow, this this dude's really talented. Then you
come down to Nashville, we link up, and I feel
like all throughout this process, I don't remember exactly if
it was the beginning or like, you know, when we
(08:10):
had met but lost my heartbreak, which is I think
really the kind of the first song that kicked it
off for you, like takes off. Like talk to me
about the process of seeing that song connect with so
many people.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I mean I was like, I was like still living
in New York, like I had nothing really going on.
Then I posted that song and it was like I
didn't even know what to do with my I didn't
even know what to do. It was like I've never
had some I still haven't had a song stream better
than it. It was like my first song out was horrible,
by the way, Like I really hope it could beat
it soon, but but yeah, it's crazy. I was like, Wow,
(08:43):
people like listen to my music and I was I
was going back playing those bar shows that I did
like two years ago after COVID and people were singing
my song now instead of like cover songs, and like, yeah,
it was like just way different when that happened. I
was like, Okay, this is sick.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
That's amazing, dude.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
It's such a good feeling when you look out and
people know the lyrics to your song or how bad
it is when they don't. Yeah, that's also very you
just like waiting like I'm sorry, it's gonna be over
soon to sit there.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yeah, dude, it's awesome. It's crazy, is I think.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I think when that song first came out for you,
it had like like four million or five million streams
in the first month, like and ye the first couple.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Of week week right, it did a million first week.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
That's insane. Do you ever think about, like you ever
think about just like when you get to know you
have a video, it gets a couple of million views,
and that's probably normal for you now, but like if
you actually quantify that and think about like how many
football stadiums that is or how you show, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
And then you're like, oh, you go play a show
and you're like, yeah, I know the words, and then
they know You're.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Like it's work.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Well, I'll tell you what, dude, you put out that
song and you know it lands you your first record
deal and here you are now, which which I want
to get into. So, uh, we're gonna be right back
here on the podcast. We got much more to talk
about with David J.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
All right, what's up, guys, We're back.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
It's about Jay in the House, Lost my Heartbreak, huge
song on Socials, pops off.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
I feel like after that, your dms have to be flooded.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
They definitely weren't as empty as they were before.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I do have to ask, are you are you just
a receiver of messages or are you sliding into dms yourself?
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I mean no, I definitely slide a lot, yeah, probably more,
probably a seventy seventy percent slot fifty percent receiver. Oh wait,
it doesn't add up to a hundred.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
No, it does not. No, David J. Music star, not
a mathematician.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Well, it was a seventy seventy thirty. There you go,
probably seventy thirty understood.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I'm glad. I'm glad we figured that out.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Is there one particular country artist that you wish would
slide into your dms?
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Now's your chance to tell them.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
I mean I've definitely slid into Megmaroni's a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, she now has a new boyfriend.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Did you I saw? I was so upset about that.
I put on my story and I was it was
just ruined by day.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I think.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I think it was a very difficult Monday morning when
the news broke.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
For those of using bro Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Definitely tough. But did she respond when you DMed her?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
No, Ione sent them a couple of times, like send
them again, like maybe maybe they're not cool? Enusty said
that one like okay, she didn't answer on send try
something new, and then that three or four and then
you're like, okay.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
So she's the she's the celebrity country, she's the country.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah, country for sure.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I did see a video recently of you dancing to
a Tate McCray song. Yeah, and I was it was interesting.
Question was was, well, it was interesting, I'll leave it.
I stopped. I watched a little bit and I said,
I'm wound. Check out the comments and I see the
top comment is Tate mccraig commenting big day.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
I called my mom and every day I called I
call her by What what?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
What is? What is? What does David J?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Do?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
When Tate McCrae comments on his post.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
I sat there and looked at it for a minute
and just let it. I just let it sink in.
I called my mom and I was like, mom, she commented,
and she didn't really know who, she didn't really care.
She's like, okay, cool, cool. I go back to work,
hung up. And then I just like called my all
my friends and I was like, this is it, guys.
It's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
It's like a weirdly wholesome move. Sate McCrae comments in
your video and you call your mom. That's awesome, man,
here we go. You see that she should be proud
of you.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Though Tate McCray is a a legend.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
But the comment was all right? But today is today
is where it changed. Today is where it changed.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Hey, it's a new beginning for you, right.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Today was a big deal.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Well, I will say, I'm sure a collaboration with Tate
McCrae is probably something of interest to you. And I
do believe that you guys have a mutual friend by
the name of mister Ryan Tedder.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Good guy.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
How did you and Tedy aor link up in the
first place?
Speaker 3 (12:56):
So here's it's actually a crazy story. So I was
in Los Angeles doing the Voice when I was maybe
fifteen sixteen with my mom last year during COVID, Yeah,
last year.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
So I was.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
I was during like kind of the end of COVID
and I was out there and there was this There
was the lawyer of the artists. I probably even know
if I'm not get in trouble for saying this shit,
but so.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Look at this we get we get all the tea
on this spot. I was.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
I sent him a song and he was like representing
our artist group of the artist on the show. And
I was like, He's like, yeah, send us some songs.
Like I didn't think I was gonna happen. I was like, whatever, fuck,
send a song, and I get a call like nine o'clock, says,
you know, like like this shit. She's like I know
this guy that knows Ryan, and I was like, okay,
Like nothing's gonna happen. This is like whatever, I'm not
(13:45):
gonna get excited. He's like, go to this house tonight
in Beverly Hills and like just to go hang out
with some people that I know. And we couldn't leave
our hotel room for the voice, Like we couldn't. We
weren't allowed to leave, Like we'll get kicked off and
thrown home right after this.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
But you're sitting there like Ryan Tedder just invited me
to a house party.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I gotta find a way to get out of here.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
So yeah, me and mom, he wasn't that at this party.
I had to go through like the.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
You to go through. It was like a journey to
get to him.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
So me and my mom sneak out of this hotel
like ten o'clock. I'm dressed in like a church outfix.
I didn't know what to wear. I wore like a
collar shirt, you like I was going to church. I
don't know why I brought a guitar. It was like
a whole thing. Me and my mom snuck out of
this hotel, ran down the street, got a uber. We're
in the hills, like twenty million dollar house easily. We're
just chilling at it. We're just like all around all
(14:32):
these people that wrote big songs for people. I didn't
know what to do with myself. I'm sitting there and
then I ended up playing like a couple of songs
in a room acoustic for like these two girls that
were there, which was a really weird moment. I was like,
I was scared.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
How did that happen? Were there just a guitar and
you picked up? I brought the guitar.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I brought the guitar, and I was like, yeah, strategic,
They're like I want to hear it. I was like
I was, so I was scared of death.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Dude.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
I'm like, I'm not doing down here. We gotta go stares.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
But you knew what you were doing, so I hey, yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
I was like, all right, I'm playing with my mom.
I left my mom downstairs so she didn't go up
stairs for that. And then fast forward, like had some
finally things got kind of going with me and the
guy that was at the party, like knew Ryan, and
then I think Ryan liked some of my stuff and
I was like, okay. And by the way, I took
(15:19):
Ryan's class, this is a funny part. I took his
like I had like an online studio class. Did you
see that ever? Yea, So he had that and I
got that for Christmas like three years ago, after the
Voice and all that stuff. I got it for Christmas
from my grandma was to take the Ryan Tedder class.
And I was so excited because I was like idolized him. Yeah,
and we like would make songs and like, by the way,
(15:39):
it's not with him, it's just like he's instructing it.
And I like did a couple of songs on the
thing and Ryan would like listen to the songs maybe
at the end of it, and I'm like, he's gonna listen,
He's gonna love He's gonna love it, hopefully. And then
the end of the class came, didn't listen to my
song and I was really bummed out about that. And
I have like a DM from me texting him like
after I did, I'm like, yo, love the class. Favorite
(16:00):
part of my day. Never answered it, like sat there
for a while.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Oh man.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Then fast forward this year, stuff finally got going. I
had some like deal offers and stuff, and he's I'm
he invited me over to the house in La this time,
like listening to some new songs, and we sat there
and he liked him. And then he's like, yeah, he
wanted to like somehow work with me. And I was like, yeah,
it's what he did the deal with Sony.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Which congratulations man.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
So it's so it's Tatter and what's the name of
Tatter's company, Runner?
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Runner?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Right, So it's Runner and Sony and here in Nashville
and you guys are crushing it.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Do you do you remember the first time you met
Ryan Tedder?
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Scared to death? I would run you through it. So
I'm sitting in at the back part of a house,
main house up there, it's like his studio house. I
got invited there. I was shaking the whole time. He
was so scared, sitting in the back room waiting with
a Brandon Silverstein, who's the other guy that signed me
with them, And we're out there. All of a sudden
he was walking out. I started like shaking, Dude, I
(16:57):
didn't know what to do. I like stood up and
like tried to shake his hand, but I think he
was going for a dap, so I kind of hit like, yeah,
you had the awkward we already a shitty start to
the to the time, and then.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
See when you don't hit the dab correctly, it's like,
where do we go from here?
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Did you think you were going to lose your deal
because you didn't dab?
Speaker 3 (17:12):
I thought I didn't do it right?
Speaker 1 (17:14):
And then super fad.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
So then we're outside and he's like, all right, listen,
like hear some of your songs and I was like, oh, ship,
like this is not gonna be good. I was gonna
tell me they suck like all this stuff, played them
and somehow like liked him, and uh, fast forward we
now we were right together and stuff like a lot
of good things have happened. He's a very good person
(17:35):
to help lead and absolutely look up to him a lot.
So yeah, it's been very good.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Dude, small world man.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I like crazy stories like that happened in music, not
necessarily always to the Ryan ted Or, but I hear
these stories of like it couldn't be like right place,
right time and connecting and.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
It's such a relationship driven industry.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I'm just glad that you found somebody that I think
is perfectly aligned with you and your vision and I'm
just for for all this new music. I will say,
you have an EP. It's coming out. We did like
in a couple of weeks. I'm pretty sure, So like,
talk to me about writing a CP. What what's what's
the process?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Yeah, I mean we did the lead single off it
is a song I wrote with him. So it's really cool.
I'm pretty pumped for that one.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
And what's it called?
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Uh, it's called rest of your Life?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Rest of your Life, Let's go classic lover boy? Yeah?
Is it? Is it like a wedding song?
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yeah, maybe I'm looking for a song to walk down
the aisle. It's gonna be a while. I'm not anywhere
close to getting married, but I'll put it in my
queue for seven years from now.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Yeah, got one feet but yeah, so that's gonna be
the lead single. And uh, I wrote a lot of
the songs in his studio at his at the house there.
But then the lead sing I did, I did with him.
But I'm pretty pumped. I mean, i'd definitely say there's
a song for everybody on the EP, like one I
wrote in my hometown in Albany with Mike. We did
we went to the studio one day and we were
(18:55):
just bored, like messing around, and we ended up writing
a song and it made it. So I'm pretty pumped
for it.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
That's awesome, dude, it's gonna be great.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
I'm I'm excited that you're putting out your first like
a body of work, and you have a song out
now too, after we broke up.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yes, we woke up after we broke up. Is it's
a jam? It's a jam. It's a breakup song. Was
it based off a true story?
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah, it was very unconfident.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Yeah, it is a yeah actual, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
It was kind of It seems like a yeah where
you don't want me asking more questions, but I'm gonna
ask tell me the story.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
No, Like, I just like I had a I wrote
a lot of songs. I probably got my record deal
off songs. I wrote all about one girl.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
This one girl is like it made me. Yeah, dude,
you got to write this girl a check and be
like thank you.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Right, I can't block.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
You've thought about it, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
It's just a bunch of true stories in these songs.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
There you go, man, Well, I'm pumped it comes out.
What's that January what day, January nineteenth. January nineteenth, We've
got a David j ep You guys got to check
it out. Make sure you pre save it right, pre
saved super important. You make sure you get that on
your tiktoks. Dude, I'm pumped about all this new music,
but I could not have you on this podcast without
talking about one very important thing, and that is that
(20:23):
is the sport of pickleball.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Oh, let's go, dude.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
You're a big pickleball guy, aren't you pretty big?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
How often are you playing?
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I try to play every day, about every day. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
There's a lot of Nashville artists that are now playing pickleball.
I've started to dabble in it a little bit myself.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
I don't even think they're not about it.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Do you think you're the best Nashville artist pickleballer?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
You know, I don't want to. I don't want to
be that guy. I don't want to say it, but
I will. I will play anybody that challenges me in
a pickleball match, for sure.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
I think we should do an invitational. I think we
should think I think a Nashville invitational and we get
a bunch of people.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
If you could have one pickleball partner for the rest
of your life.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Who would it be like celebrity or it can be anyone.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
My boy Bob from New York.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
It's not where I thought what's up with Bob? Bob
was like.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
This sixty year old dude. Did we show up every
we play at eight am in New York and he's filthy?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Did you meet Bob through pickleball?
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Really?
Speaker 3 (21:27):
And I love going to play pickleball because nobody talks
about music. They don't even know my name or anything.
So we just play pickleball, just all competition.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Yeah, it's just you and Bob.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah, I mean, I don't want to get too personal here,
but you're all worried that Bob's knees might blow.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Out anytime soon. No, he's definitely had back.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
He's definitely had some questionable falls. Yeah, that I didn't
think you'd recovered from.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Maybe that's part of the dynamic of you guys as
a duo. It's like the guy young guy like you
kind of pick where he's he's not good at. Maybe
you know, Yeah, that's cool, well awsome man. Well, hey,
I like to play this game. You can see him
decked out in all this area. Yeah, they're a sponsor
of ours. Here for this rapid fire segment, we throw
sixty seconds on the clock and I just hit you
(22:07):
with these questions. Most people have been pretty good, but
something tells me that you might be might be the champion.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
So all right, Mattie boy, wind up those sixty seconds.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Let's get this thing in business ready, dream venue to
play Red Rocks Dream collaboration.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Drake, Wow, I like that. Are you a talker or
a texter talker? There you go? Are you ice cream
cake or regular cake?
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Ice cream?
Speaker 1 (22:31):
What's the secret talent? People wouldn't know about you?
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Pick a ball?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
They know about it though they know about it now,
but we'll let it account celebrity crush, he says it quietly.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Do you think pineapple on pizza is allowed?
Speaker 3 (22:48):
No? I don't. I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
We'll talk about them more or later. Are you a
baseball cap or cowboy hat? I kind of feel like, yeah,
you're a baseball right.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
There you go. Do you have your own Netflix account
or do you use somebody else's.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
I have my own Netflix account. I have one of
my ex's Hulu account. It's a log into.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
There you go. That's fair.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Well, you know you're twenty years old, you're get you're
moving up in the world, right, there you go. And
last question, if you weren't doing music.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
What do you think you'd be doing.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
I wanted to be a detective.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
I love, like a detective of what I love, like
police movies and stuff like that's cool, like what like
like nci as, like crime stuff like is it no?
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Like kind of like the more the show swat. Yeah,
if you saw that like that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
I mean I've certainly heard it, I haven't actually watched it.
You should watch it, really have you? Did you take
any classes of detectives?
Speaker 3 (23:43):
I mean pretty good at like finding out girlfriends cheat
on me. That's about the most detective.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
That's the most detective work. Hey, it's a start though, right.
Oh man, that's awesome dude. Well hey, that was sixty
seconds percented by area. That was pretty impressive, Dave. I
have to say I learned something new about you. If
all goes to hell, you're gonna become the next best detective.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
There we go. What's what's his quote? Safety never takes
a holiday. That's a big one. Dude, Are you going
on the road anytime soon?
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Oh yeah, we're gonna do a headline tour in the spring,
a couple of support dates in next year. Yeah, we
haven't really announced yet, but.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
That'll be fun.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Man, headline to headline tour is incredible. Do you know
how many cities yet or it's still think it's yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
I think it's a decent amount.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
A lot is more than some or none, so I
could do that. I love it, dude.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I assume people can connect like you'll post about it
on your socials and online and all that. Well, dude,
thanks for stopping by. I appreciate it. You guys, make
sure you check out this EP. You make sure you
check out Dave online for all this pick up all
highlights as well as his new music, and just hit
the message button inst.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Magmarony. Dude, it's been awesome. Man. You know I'm a
big supporter of Thanks for st
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