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August 8, 2022 47 mins

Interview w/  Lil Flip  on the Bootleg Kev Podcast.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Buleg cav Show Special guests. We have got the chetown
legend himself, Little Flipping the Building man. Welcome, Bro, welcome, welcome. Hey,
what's good bro? Love the place? Man? Thank you better? Yeah, man,
congrats on everything. Thank you man. How's everything going with you?
Been blessed? How you doing? Hey? I woke up today,
So yeah, I tell everybody that's the hell of a

(00:21):
great start. That is a great start. How well, first
of all, what's going on, Like, what's the latest and
greatest in Little Flips world? What you been doing? What
you been working on? And you've always got businesses you're
starting and all kinds of shit going on, right Yeah,
I mean that's that's all I do. Let's see, besides
being the owner of Exotic Pop, which is everywhere everywhere,

(00:43):
that I'm doing a lot of stuff in the metaverse.
I got a concert coming up in the metaverse August fourteenth,
and then me and zero we just got done with
Kings of the South Part two. I dropped Flip Madewell
of the I got a well, I guess I'll announce

(01:06):
it here. I got a show coming where we're going
to discover the next big thing like a talent like
reality show. Yes, yes, and we want the next you know,
like it's always one of ones, but legendary stuff. We're
not looking for regional, We're not looking for we want

(01:27):
the next stadium filler. What is what is the platform
it'll be on? Well, that's the thing that that's the
only thing that we're You're going to film it first
and then shop it around or well we we already
have things in place already. Yeah. Yeah, man, shout out
to King Lee, you know, my business partner. But we
got some stuff going. So the metaverse, the apps, the
Exotic Pops. How did you get involved with Exotic Pop? Well,

(01:50):
the other owner, Charleston, he's from Houston and he grew
up on my music. We grew up in the same area.
And he's like, man, I got the soda company thing,
I'm doing, what's up? And so I'm like, man, I'm down.
And so we just put our heads together and keeling
and the cool cup juice and we just been Yeah.
Because like any smoke shop you're go into or i

(02:13):
mean obviously liquor stores too. They're right because because Exotic
Pop quit me from more. You guys are given, like
artists their own sodas right correct, right, right right given
like other streams of income. We're some of the artists
that have their own soda. I know Mac Dre's got
his when I was in the Baby tried it. Yeah,
rest Peace, That's one of my favorite ones, the Bubblegum

(02:33):
restu piece of mac Dre Man. We did one with
Ryb Kardashian. We did one with Drake's dad, twenty one
Savage and Metro Boom, and we gave Sauce walking his
own water. I got cream soda and I have a
green Apple cool cup juice. Man. There's so many artists, man,

(02:54):
but the legends like DJ Screwed, Big Mold, Fat padd
like all the legends who are not here, Big Halt.
You know, we help their families with the money and
each soa that we sell, like on the back of
it it sayss like a percentage of it goes to
the community. So wherever the artists are from, we do
a lot of stuff with the community, with the kids.

(03:16):
And I'm actually putting out a mixtape August fourteen called
the Arti Freestyle, where I'm rapping over my favorite Big
Mo beats, my favorite Fat Pat beats, so I sat
down with Direct, the owner of all these masters, and
I'm like, hey, bro, you gotten cleared. Yes, I'm like, bro,
I want to wrap on these classic beats and put

(03:37):
them out and you know, so we talked about the beers.
But it's crazy, you know, because I feel like the
people who came before me, it's on me to make
sure while I'm still here that their names live on
you know what I mean, because they did so much
for me, and you know, nobody knows when we go go,
so it's on me. It's on Flip everywhere I go

(04:00):
to make sure DJ Screw, PIMC, Big Mo, HOWK Fat Pat,
like all these different people that are from where I'm
from that we hold to high regard the same way
people hold Big and Pop like or even like a
guy like Mac dra and the Bay exactly. So you know,
we just we go keep pushing it. How did you initially,

(04:21):
because I remember when you came out, the first thing
I remember was you having your own cereal with a
Leprechaun project, and then obviously it was like, oh shit,
there's this guy who's got his own cereal. I was
living in Arizona at the time, so I didn't know
much about the Houston scene outside of like rap a
lot and Scarface and obviously ugk they're from Port Arthur.

(04:43):
But uh, but in terms of like the screwed up shit,
just that whole kind of wave, I really didn't get
super hip too until you know, it really went commercial
and you know, when you and Mike Jones and Paul
Wall and everybody had their U their wave. You know,
So how did you like initially kind of get into

(05:03):
the game and like, I know, like nationally, was that
kind of like your first big look the Lepercun shit. Well,
the Lepercun was my first solo album. So the difference
is one of the other reasons why I called myself
for the Mayweather is because I'm born into music, just
like he was born into boxing. So a lot of

(05:24):
artists they started rapping and doing music as you know,
fifteen high school. You know, like if you're born in
my house, you doing music, gotcha? So I already knew
the industry. I sunk in the choir, wrapped the Italian shows,
used to rap, battle, played the piano, drums, learning the guitar,

(05:45):
was in film, acting class, etiquette, class media training. So
I was already ready for the industry Man and the
lepercun I put that out after I did a group
album called h and See what stands for Hustler stacking Ins.
But prior to that, I had a few other groups
that I was in that I started, and man, I

(06:08):
just knew if I had a person like j Prince
and rap a Lot by the way, free Larry Hoover,
you did ye, Like if I had somebody like that
as my mentor in my same city to study the blueprint.
So I just sit back, like, okay, just the way
you you market yourself, just the way you don't take

(06:30):
no for a answer. This is the way you invest
in your own money and time. You do it your way.
So seeing them come through, you know, clubs and come
through the neighborhoods, in the in the Double Lords and
the Roads Russes. Like since I was young and watched
Richie rich I already knew Rose Russes was for me
right tall on me somewhere. I don't know the Double

(06:51):
Lords right here, hellogo. But so I had the perfect
blueprint to watch out rap a Lot, you know, like
this man had a car a lot and then turned
it into like music business and you know, had to
get our boys everywhere and just different artists and putting
out these albums and coming to car shows displaying all

(07:12):
their cars and showing up to the shows fifty deep,
everybody all and black. Like it was just like a
big thing. So I basically was a sponge being able
to balance what I learned from my family, my dad,
my grandparents, my mom, and then DJ Screw then it
was like I was learning from Jay Prince as well.
So we put out the HSSE album, put that out,

(07:35):
Rest in Peace to Jason he died. He's on HSC album,
my high school homie. And then after that, well, when
we put it out, fans was like, man, we wanted
to flip solo album. Why would you put the group
out and you're the hottest thing in the streets. But
I've always been with them people that like to try
to bring people with me, you know what I mean.
That was how I was raised, Like if you have

(07:55):
more than the next person, hey, I'm not gonna sit it,
eat the stake and you don't have nothing, I just
cut my shit in half and give you half of
my stake. Like that's the type of person I am,
And so I did that and that was one of
the best decisions because it allowed me to record the
Leperate Cunt album. And what happened the first album we
put out, the group album HSC. We did pretty cool,

(08:17):
you know what I mean. But it was so many
people on the label, the amount of money that it
was making, and then I'm the marquee artist. It just
wasn't enough, right, and everybody wants to see me, right,
So it's like I'm like, but I still want my
guys like with me, you know what I mean. So
the Leperate Cunt album, I wrote half of it in
my freestyle half of it and half of that album,

(08:39):
like I was like literally still in the trap with
my homie Task resting piece of Task, that's my guy,
Like literally making the album, making plays, you know in
the front room, you know, with the shotgun, you know,
in the front room with the Nato the ak, like
literally making plays and in between playing you know, PLAYSTATIONE

(09:00):
and and writing raps and constructing my Lepercun album. So
I was able to really have fun and I can
do that. It was the single we put that ship out.
It did crazy? Did that come out on wrap a Lot? No? Yeah,
I partnered up with a guy named Hump and we
we we well. Sucker Free was like a concert. It

(09:20):
was entertainment company at first, and I partnered up with
him because he was one of my childhood I remember that.
I remember the Yeah, so my dad. He was one
of my dad's childhood friends. And I'm like, all right, hey,
let's turn it to a record label. You be the CEO,
I'd be the CEO. And so we put it out,
did well independent and a lot of people don't know

(09:40):
when you put out a double album and it counts right,
so like people like you know, Pock and Biggie when
they you know, they go down, but it counts to
it counts its too. So eight Ball, you know, one
of my trip, yeah, the triple album come Lost. So
I'm like, damn all, he got to sell us one

(10:01):
third of half a meal and he's gold you know
what I mean, Yeah, you know, to get the gold plaquet. Yeah.
So it's like and it ended up selling you know,
a million plus, so he ended up going triple platinum.
A lot of people don't know eight Ball Lost is
like triple platinum. That's yeah. So and in my mind
I'm like, hey, I'm a I'm a sponge, So I

(10:22):
studied rap a lot, I studied swave house. I study everything,
and then I implement my own, you know, final version
of what I've learned from everybody put that shit out.
So a lot of record was doing mixtape, a lot
of records mixtape mixtapes pulling out. Everybody was like, why
are you rapping on these beats and putting them out?
You should focus on real stuff. I'm like, Nah, this

(10:43):
is what DJ Screw taught me, this is where I
come from. So people started seeing. We would pull up
the towns and we picking up show money, and hell,
I'm picking up mixtape money. The mixtape money, hell, at
times was two times more than the show money. So
I'm dropping off boxes five. You're just like dropping off
at the local spots. Music Mania was a spot in Austin,

(11:06):
crazy place. It was record store, Yes, bro, right next
to active athlete, and Bro, I pull up cash out
fifteen K here, twenty K here, damn yeah, come back
to Austin three months later. By that time, I got
a new mixtape out repeat. So I had a place
in Austin, a place in Dallas, t Time Music, a

(11:30):
place in Tyler. Wow. Those were like my main three
hubs of where I knew I could go pick up
five k here, ten k here, dropping off some products.
B It was the easiest shit. And so I'm like,
y'all calling me stupid, but y'all wondering how I'm selling
all these records and how everybody wants to see me
is because I'm just giving this shit away. Sometimes we

(11:51):
were selling them as well, so like at the to
the retail people, I would selling them to them, but
at the concepts, I would give them away right that.
It's crazy. Hey, those are the good old days though, man. Yeah,
when you could sell so you could just pull up
and have like a relationship with the owner of a
record store and you know he believe in what you're doing,
and then you turn that into instant monetary. It's crazy

(12:17):
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Let's get back to the interview. Have you had any
issues like adjusting to the streaming world or do you
feel like it benefits artists like you that's independent that
can just kind of drop freely if you will. Man,

(13:26):
I'm one of them people like this bro. I'm like,
I'm not a stuck in my ways type of king,
right I hustle, the dinosaur way, the modern way, and
the future way. So it I mean, I love it.
I just embrace it. I still press up my physical
copies and my wax for the DJs that like wax

(13:47):
and wax sales for pretty good money these days. So yeah,
people still buy vinyl. It's like almost like as a collector,
they'd almost rather buy the vinyl than the CD because
it feels like there's people buying vinyl don't even have
a turned able to play it on the agreed agreed,
And so yeah, that's that's where I'm at. And then
like the things with the streams, you know, like like

(14:09):
I say, the only downfall to the stream you know,
like I'm not I'm not one of the OG haters,
Like uh, I'm like I fuck with the new cats,
the new artists. You know. My only concern with the
streams is like this, how I compare it? Right? I
compared a stream to this. You know how back in
the days, you could go to a music store and
listen to a whole album, right, you can chamit whatever whatever.

(14:34):
If you didn't buy it, you didn't get that sale, right,
Like the artists didn't get that sale. So if you
go to a car lot and you test drive a
car and you don't buy it. The guy who's selling
the car doesn't get credit for you test driving the car.
He gets credit for yourself. So just the way that

(14:54):
they converted to like you have this many streams, this
means you're a platinum, but a sample to me is
still it's like you can't lower the goal post. It's
how I look at it, no matter what, no matter what. Right,
like any other business, if you sell pizza, if you
only sell twenty pizzas, man, you only sold twenty pizzas well,

(15:15):
if you think about it, like with the playlist world,
it's like you might throw a new playlist on that
Spotify feed you whether it's like rap Caaba or whatever,
and even if the song plays for thirty seconds, you
don't fuck with you hit next on the playlist still
counts as a stream, right, So it's it's like a
sometimes a person that's able to be like, oh yeah,
I went flatten them. I got this many streams, and

(15:37):
it creates a big head. Also, like you'll really know
if it's working if you can sell hard tickets. Correct,
because there's a lot of these artists who stream big numbers,
but they can't go on tour. Yeah. So it's so
it's so like I'm like on the fence with like
just like one hundred percent, Like, oh, I love it.
Like it's dope that people all around the world can

(15:57):
hear your music from the push up of button and
you can also upload ship exactly button, so it's coxactly.
Back in the day, you had to go press up CDs,
find distribution right to get like your ship all over
the country in a record store. Agreed, man, So now
it's like I just hit it. There's no middle man. Yeah.
So like I embraced it. I'm one of them people.
I adapt. Man, what's going on? You know? Plex? Like

(16:20):
I love I love like in my house and my studios,
I got PLEX and stuff on the wall that just
inspires me. Man, you know what I mean? So I
fuck with this setup? Man? You uh, the first like,
like I guess you're kind of coming out party, would
you say, would be like underground legend in terms of
just like commercially national correct? What was it was? Game

(16:42):
over on that game Over was on the next album. Right,
you gotta feel me? The way we ball was the
first to feel me was crazy this is the way. Yeah,
I forgot about the way one video multi platinum off
one video. That's fucking crazy because was that a double album? Yeah?
All my albums a double albums. I remember it most
of the time. What was the album where you were
like kind of like in black on the cover it

(17:04):
came out The Game Over remix was on there. I
want to say, mind that shit was there was a
record on there, fuck that I loved because I know
that like that was kind of there wasn't like a
super smash on that album, was there. I wouldn't say
it was a super sm There was a record on
that project that I fucking loved. Yeah, it was like
I think I put what it Do was on there

(17:25):
with many fresh and yeah we put we put a
little money behind it, but we didn't go in mind
there was a couple of records on there that I loved,
and that was a part right there. I was actually
like transitioning leaving the label. So one That's why it's
like a version where it's one cover of me standing
in front of black and then it's one version when
I went to one of the brothers, I'm holding some

(17:47):
money or some quick shit. I didn't really like that cover,
but I put on the cover Free Zero, So that's
what I was pushing, you know, so welcome home Zero.
He been home for me for a while. Yeah yeah,
but I that They were like, you're gonna put free
Somebody on your album cover. I'm like, yeah, this is yeah, yeah,

(18:08):
well this was Sony No, no, no, this was Warner.
This was one of just one person. One person asked me,
and I was like, yeah, like it's not a mixed listen.
I know what I'm doing. Like see, I never let
a person like tell me what I can I can't do,
especially when it comes to art. I'm one of those

(18:28):
people though, I will listen to your opinion, like I
will listen. I'm like, I'm a That doesn't mean I
have to take it, but I will acknowledge it and
if it makes sense to me. I'm a rock with
and that's how I got open to input, helping information.
That's how I got where I'm at. Yo. There was
a period of time where you were popping up on
a lot of June radio shit the mixtapes back in

(18:48):
the day. Was there ever any conversations where fifty was
trying to sign you to JUnit Man, me and fifty
We talked about doing some business a few times. It
never like happened, like I think, mainly due to like
scheduling and stuff. But we didn't specifically talk like I'm
signing to because see, no matter if I'm on TV

(19:11):
or not, like I'm I came in this industry as
a CEO, So if I would ever do a deal
with another artist, it would be a joint picture. It
would be a partnership. I'll never ever be under anybody
and never have every album I ever put out. I
was a CEO, so I was already taught as a kid.
Come in a game of ceo, be an artist. Don't

(19:32):
let people tell you, Oh, you should just focus on
the music part and let us talk for you. And
know that's how you get robbed. That's how lawyers put bruh.
That's how lawyers man finess you out of bread, especially
the lawyers that like are suggested to you by the
people you're signing to. Oh you don't have a good lawyer,
We got one for you, yeah, bro, the motherfuckers. So

(19:55):
I'm gonna talk for myself. I get to done. I
get the deal done way quicker when I talk for myself.
Did you ever have a situation where you got into
a shitty deal like early on, like whether it was
the Sony or the Warner situation, because back in the day,
those major label deals were fucking treacherous. Thank you. I
never got into a shitty deal. I've been in some
deals where I got what I wanted or got what

(20:16):
I asked for it, but I looked out for somebody
out of what I got, only to find out later
that they had got a separate bag for themselves as well.
So they dipped in the pay, they double dip, But
I still got what I want because at the end
of the day, I think like a hustler. I get
paid to talk, seen make words, rhyme, come up with

(20:38):
witty shit, make a motherfucker say wow. It's people that
talk all day, don't that don't get paid for it.
So I look at it like this, br Any amount
of money that a motherfucker go pay me just a
talk is a win. Now, when we go to my
accolades and what I've accomplished, I know how to find
the medium of I know how to negotiate. My dad
was a master car salesman, so I know how to

(20:59):
play a s I know how to play a wolf
because at the end of the day, I'm a hustler.
So at the end of the day, almost any amount
of money that's respectful, respectable, it's not getting fucked over,
you see what I'm saying. But yeah, I've always known
how to speak my mind because I grew up around
older people. I'm I'm the youngest and the screwed up Click.
But I'm not afraid to speak my mind. If a

(21:21):
OG or somebody did something to me that I felt
like they slighted me and it was wrong, I'm gonna
address it now. I know how to approach it respectful.
You see what I'm saying. I'm not a reckless you know,
g and no shit like that. But I'm not afraid
to speak my mind. And I'm a very honorable person.
When being from screwed up Click, and I kind of
feel like you were a little bit ahead, slightly ahead

(21:45):
of the of the of the kind of like h
town national craze. I kind of feel like you were
like probably the first dude in that class of like
of your peers that really popped correct. I'm talking like obviously,
you know, the millionaires of Paul Walls, you were kind
of first. I was first, Yeah, I was. I was
the first person like out of that wave. You know,

(22:08):
we had LaTroy he went platinum rightly in terms of
just the I feel like era, yeah, yeah, but I
was just saying, you know, yeah, we had that like
right before like the ship started going on, you know.
But yeah, yeah, definitely, I was. I was first. Was
there ever any Was there ever any like because Swisher

(22:30):
House had kind of you know, uh, Michael five thousand
wats was chopping and screwing ship as well? Was there
ever any sort of static between the screwed up ship
and the Swisher House ship? It was? Well? And it
like because obviously everyone ends up on that Source cover, right,
which was a crazy cover right right, the don't mess
with textics. Everybody and their mom was on that cover, right,

(22:53):
But uh did that like like like, what was what
was like your take on like seeing Swisher House come
out and kind of obviously, you know, DJ screw started
chopping and screwing shit, but it also was like a
Houston thing as much as it was his thing that
he created, you know, but what what was your take
on the Swisher House movement? You know, kind of being
on the other side of things. I'm in a screwed

(23:15):
up click, so like I'm an understandable person, you know
what I mean. So a lot of members was like,
oh shit, what is that? What's going on? That're doing
what we're doing? And my whole take, I just felt like,
hey man, we inspired some people to do what they do,
you know what I mean. So I didn't look at it,
you know like some of the other members looked at it.

(23:36):
You know, you had some people that was like they
didn't like it, and you had some people that was like,
hey man, shit, they expressing theyself. They they want to
you know what I mean. We motivated some people to
you know what I mean. So that's how I always
looked at it, and that's one of the reasons I'm
the first person outter screwed up Click to go do
a freestyle on the Swisher House tape. Mmm, so I

(23:58):
got clap. My My biggest freestyle is on a Swisher
House tape. Which freestyle was that it's a mixtape called
IR forty five and it's a record like we blow in.
Though I might be on jaylen h they be like, Phlip,
can you listen to my demo, I say, nine Nigga,
I got shows to do after the concert. I got

(24:21):
hoes to screw, like that's a classic freestyle. That's like, motherfucker,
scream that shit like word for word. And so I
was always going over there. I got family that's on
the north side, so in the midst of the North
Side and South Side, Beef, I was always on the
north side anyway, like because I don't I don't at
the end of the day, the way I feel we Houston, right,

(24:42):
I mean, at the end of the day, it's about
unity for me. So you know, Yeah, my biggest freestyle
is on the Swish House tape. That's crazy and I'm
in a screwed up click. What can you tell us
about that Source magazine cover? Was everyone there at the
same time? Yep? What was that? Like? It was a
great day. I played dumb one of us with Jay
Prince seeing you and uh we was on the ranch.

(25:07):
You know, that was one of the inspirations to me,
you know, buying a ranch and cattle. So just being
on the ranch and hearing about the ranch and just
being there and what was on that covers? Rose Slim, Paul, Pimps,
Bun by, which was random. But I don't think he

(25:29):
was on the cover. I think he was on the inside.
You had to open it, yeah, okay, because it was
it was the cover was like one of those fold
out fo damn. But I remember him being there, yeah,
because like the ones I got, I got. I still
got some copies of that in my studio, But that
particular one, I don't think. Maybe he was on the inside.
Maybe I don't remember. Yeah, I think it was the inside.

(25:51):
But but yeah, everybody was there, bro. It was a
cold day. That's why I had on the fur. It
was a cold ass fucking day. And some kind of
like past the mic freestyle that same day too. It
was cool, man, I mean it was cold. Was this
probably the last day that all those people were together
all at once? Huh man when you put it like that.

(26:12):
Probably so it's a lot of people to get Yeah,
probably so because we lost PMC long lived PEMPS. Yeah,
smoke some bitch and memory of PMC. Yeah, that was
a That was a big moment because I just encapsulated
just kind of the movement that was going on at
the time. Definitely. Uh, why do you think that movement

(26:33):
didn't have a lot of longevity commercially, because it felt
like there was like a three or four year window
where it was like it and then it kind of
just started to you know, I don't know if it
was g unit, you know, running with shit, or it
just just hip hop kind of shifted, shifted, right, I know.
Part of the reason is what's the word evolving? Right?

(26:58):
Every coast, every time has their own lingo, their own
slang words that they say, things that they do. So
for us, you know, the candy paint, the double cups,
the diamond teeth, that's us, right, that's our culture, like
we live, it's in us. It's not a fad for us, right.
So for the rest of the country, right, Yeah, to

(27:18):
some up, yeah, they thought it was a fad, and
so everybody started getting grills where they're talking, you know,
funny can't really talk and just you know, double cups,
all this stuff that we started. And so man, it's
just like some people didn't want to keep hearing about
candy paint, popping trunks, grills, you know what I mean.
And then at the same time, some artists like, okay,

(27:44):
if you make a record that's about a certain topic, right,
and it goes you know, gold or whatever the case
may be. Pretty you know, plenty of fanfare. You're gonna
replicate that, people are gonna be in your ear. You
need another one one of those. So then you go
back in the studio and you try to make another
one of those. Right, So it's like you probably on

(28:06):
your head like we need another Sunshine right right, and
me I'm just like listen, I'm gonna create. It has
to happen. Argain. Did they ever try to force you
into do a Shawnte record back then, like a record
with her because Sunshine was so big, like at the
same time, like as on like you know everything. They didn't.
They never forced a Shanty record. I was able to

(28:27):
do one with Beyonce. I did a Naughty Girl. You
did the Naughty Girl. Oh my god, I forgot about that.
And then I did a remix with Kelly Rowland King
Nobody and I hate the record and do what it
should it did. I forgot about Naughty Girl. What's that like?
Getting a call from Beyonce? Man, it's dope. I mean
it was like they actually performed like my single off

(28:52):
of the Leperchun I can do that. They actually performed
there like in Houston at like a big show back
in the day, Like I forgot what arena. I don't
know if it was the felt she's always paying homage
when she can, you know, to this day, no, till
his day, till his day. Yeah, but now that was
a dope adult moment. And then she called me out

(29:12):
the blaue and was like, hey, I want to ship
you some of this Ivory Park. So I got this
big box of ivy big Adida's box delivered and a
letter and you know that was dope and we were
label made, so it was It's cool. So thank you
for the clothes, missus Nose, Thanks for the closed Missnose.
There it is, I should I say respectfully, Miss it's card.

(29:36):
I don't know. Did she take the name? I don't know,
but you know you got to show. Yeah, you know, hey,
I don't want to dive into the t I thing
because you've talked about it to the death. But I
just I never remember what was the origin of your guys'
issue back in the day. I gotta I got a
song with Easy to Block Captain car how many times

(29:57):
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(31:52):
sto is off. Look, I don't want to talk about
the street snow mo, and I don't want to talk
about the beef no Mo. Dudes, do some on my
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war with a Vampire teeth, got show, you know? But anyway,
what was the question again? I just that was the
perfect moment for me to for your Yeah, and then
you use this clip and no, I was just I

(32:14):
was just curious, like like the initial just kind of conflict,
like what what did it? What was the origin of it?
It was some petty stuff. Like me and him, we
actually have each other number. We probably text and uh
we talked about me coming on his podcast and him
coming on mine. So we go, we go schedule. Yeah, yeah,

(32:34):
so we we go scheduling where we're filming both at
the same time. So we talked, We had dialogue on it.
But what I will say, like, it was really super petty,
and it was something that I tried to nipping the
bud before it spiraled out of control, you know what
I mean, because you know, I know how things can

(32:54):
get out of hand. So I'm just glad that Jay Prince,
being a o G that he is, decided to step
in and say, you know what, like, I can't let
two youngsters, you know what I'm saying, young kids from
the South. Yeah, two kings. And at the end of
the day, we both talked about it, laughed about it,
and he was like the movie. Yeah, he was like, man,
we was kids, so you know, it's it's all to

(33:17):
the g. But it was petty and I've moved past it. Man,
that's beautiful. Man. Yeah, you and Zero this is your
So you guys have two joint projects. We did Kings
of the South Part one and Part two is coming
or Part two is coming, Yeah, and part two is
just like music. Like Kings of the South one, we
was in a different mode back then. It was you know,

(33:38):
a lot going up. But part two of the fans
keep asking because he's the King of the ghetto and
I'm the freestyle king, you know what I mean. So,
and that's one of the big things even with my
movie I'm working on, It's Kyle King Life. It's about
like people fighting for that one spot. But if you
really go back to back in the days, like it
was multiple kings, King ruled this area and this radio

(34:02):
of course of course, right, so we're so competitive and
hip hop and then not you know where we come from.
You want to be the number one guy, you know
what I mean, But you can bet the number one
guy in your section you can beat. So that's what
my movie is about, like people coming together. You know,
everybody want that number one spot, but hey, we all
can be number one. Do you think zero gets enough

(34:23):
flowers in terms of just like I feel like somehow
like he obviously being incarcerated during a lot of that
era of h Town but like in terms of just
like his ability as an artist. You know, he's obviously
a legend in your city, and I just feel like
he never probably got his his flowers nationally that he

(34:44):
probably deserves. I don't feel like they play zero music
like they need to, right, you know what I mean,
unless you go to Houston and they played, but they played.
You know, his fan base is crazy. You know, he's
got a crazy and I fel feel like they go
see That's why that was one of the main things

(35:06):
why it was so important for me to put Free
Him on my cover because a lot of times, you know,
it's a stigma of when you get this major deal
the record label, you know they change you, and you
know you sell your soul. I believe in God, so
I'm not gonna compromise my manhood, my integrity, my morals,
my principles for no money. So that's why all my deals,

(35:30):
I was able to do what I wanted to do,
even with the g Unit mixtapes. She was asking how
I get on that, because when I came to New York,
I was saying, if I want to take over New York,
I need to wrap next to the great. So I
was with Dipset on all the cam mixtapes doing records,
I'm with g Unit. Buck was already my homie who
kid putting me on mixtapes and stuff like that, so

(35:51):
I had to go in, like y'all want, I'm gonna
show you that it's some people from Houston that don't
just wrap up by popping trunks and candy paint. I
rap about that shit as well, but I know how
to limit how much I talk about that because I'm
thinking worldwide. But back to Zero, I just wanted to
go into that g Unit. How did I end up
on the mixtapes because I knew I needed to rap
next to the greats and showed them that somebody in

(36:12):
Texas can rap as well, you know what I mean?
And so but yeah, with Zero man, that dude, bro.
When we get in the studio, our vibe is like
me and my cousin, Big Shasta, Me and Big t
rest In Piece. Big t He's the one who sung
the hook to want to be a bottle he died.
So those are the three people that when I get

(36:33):
in the studio, it's like, you know what I mean, Magic,
you know what I mean? All that, Like we just
get we get it in and his hooks and and
the way he constructed his melodies. He was actually the
first you know rapper really you know, singing and rapping.
You know what I mean, you know, shout out to him. Yeah, yo,

(36:54):
I feel like some did somebody just try sampling Sunshine
or just put out like a remix, like a new
verse version of it. Am I tripping? Man, it's funny.
It's funny. It's funny. You said that because I'm trying
not to give away. But okay, so look, or maybe
someone played me a sampled version of it that isn't
out yet or something. I just feel like it's about

(37:14):
time somebody tries to put remake Sunshine. Bruh. It's crazy.
So it's a two way part to that story. I'm
not gonna say who the artist is, but okay. So
on the way out here though, I got a d
M and artist hit me and it was like hey man,
I remade, well what's your information? You know what's going on?

(37:35):
O G And we exchange information. Then he called I text.
I text like hey, this meet like me. Then he
called you know what I'm saying, I just gave the gender.
Huh yeah, yeah, he called it's a guy. It's a guy.
So he hit me up and he was like, man,
I remade you know the record, Sunshine flipped it and

(38:00):
he was like, I gotta let you hear it. And
we talked a little business or whatever. Major artists, like
a major label artist rather major major. Yeah yeah, yeah, major,
yeah yeah. It's crazy part one of his plaques and
his motherfucker. But I'll tell you off the air. I
can tell you what it is, but we'll make this

(38:24):
a bet if you can get if you can guess, Nope,
it's not y G Nope. So look, you owe me,
You owe me seven grams of some zaz I. Damn.
I feel like someone played me. I feel like somebody
played me a record. And I was like, oh something,
it's about time someone flipped it. And it's so crazy

(38:45):
to peep this though. That happened the other day now,
a year ago. Another artist was working on the project
and hit me and his producer was like, Hey, that's
such a great record. And you know what's crazy about
that record is it's like, to this day, it still
is such a great gold record that radio stations have
to play because it's it's like just one of those

(39:08):
ones is like, it's never gonna go away, and I
love when it come on the way it possessed ladies
and stuff. But the other artist, it be like a
year ago his producing I actually had recorded a verse
on that version. So it's two artists that contacted me
to do with the other one. I don't know, it
didn't come out or whatever whatever. But yo, so let

(39:31):
me ask you this. You're involved in the metaverse. Obviously,
the crypto shit just crashed pretty crazy. NFTs are crashing
like crazy right now. Yea, what is your like thoughts
because like, obviously somebody like Snoop Dogg, who's murdering it
right now? Right I can't even listen to Doggie Style
on Spotify anymore. You got to go buy the NFT man.

(39:52):
I don't even know how to buy a fucking NFC man.
But what are your thoughts just on the whole metaverse?
And like, is there a way to to take advantage
of it as an artist without worrying about whether or
not that n FT market crashes or like, Because obviously crypto,
NFT metaverse they all kind of go hand in hand,
but they're also very separate. Because I can go home

(40:13):
and throw on my oculas and play a game in
the metaverse and it's not the same thing as you know,
so you're obviously doing concerts. You're right, You're you're involved
in the metaverse shit like correct, talk about your involvement
in that and just your thoughts on that whole shit. Well, see,
a lot of times the communities, they have a problem
when a person tries to like, you know, take advantage
of that when you try to use So I believe

(40:34):
in using the word like utilize, right, and then I
believe in reaching my people. So I'm a pain that
paint art. Yeah, I do shoes, skateboards, hats. I draw
like my jery and my test you know, I mean
I draw so so like when it comes to art
and our people, and you know the percent of people
that are labeled weird because we might throw on a

(40:57):
green shirt with a orange pair of pans, right, and
to the average eye, they'll be like, that doesn't match.
But when you elevate to a certain level of being fly,
if you look in the mirror and you like that shit,
that's all that fucking matters. Right, So everybody has to
do something one time to become a trend, right, so

(41:20):
the metaverse and just the people that I'm still able
to interact with that are fans and that you know
that are higher thinkers, people that are looking at life
from a different angle. They usually buy into people that
are like them. Right, And when you have a brand
and you're able to always show the promoter or the

(41:41):
artists or the fan people that spend money with me
or show that they support me, I always go out
my way to be like, thank you, I'm gonna take
that extra pitchure, I'm gonna give you anxiety pop, I'm
gonna do you know whatever the fuck just because you
told me my music got you through this and that
so I show fans and people love so people that
are there wherever my fans are or wherever there are

(42:03):
people who strive to surround themselves with great people and
make money and leave generation of well behind for their
family and not be on some dumb shit. Not easily easily,
you know, swathe, you know, like I'm creating stuff for
people that are thinkers and coming up with different ways
that people who want to be involved in the music

(42:23):
industry should invest in other artists, Like I'm working on
some other apps that's going to actually help a lot
of artists get investors and have people around the world
to be able to have stake in certain things. Well,
that's smart because I always I always Because there's a
guy named Larussell out of Vallejo, California, so he's doing

(42:46):
something similar for his music. He's like, Yo, if you
you can invest in this song and I give you
a chunk of it from distro kid. Right. So I
feel like for up and coming artists, if someone believes
in you and if there's a place you could point
them to be like, yo, you can go purchase a
stake in whatever this album is or whatever, and you

(43:09):
can help bankroll what I'm trying to do with it.
You know what I'm saying. I think that that's that's
a platform that's missing. Yeah, for independent especially for independent artists.
Hey man, I'm one of them type of people. But like,
I want to leave music in better shape, in business,
in better shape than it was before I came. Right, Like, so,

(43:31):
if you think about the era that came before me
and the way their contracts were, some of them still
be stres and some of them still suck the contracts
contracts stone right, And then think about the artists that
came out before them, the people in the fifties and
when they were getting paid one penny. It's crazy, and
you know, but the cost of living was way lower,

(43:51):
but still it was crazy. It's still crazy. Wow. So
now the era that came after me, in the era
the artists, they're making a whole bunch of money at
a faster rate, you know what I mean. So, you know,
money management and just it's a lot of different things
that you know, these artists should do and learn to

(44:13):
do with their money, and learn how to treat people
with more respect because you never know when you're gonna
see the same people coming down if you come down though, Yeah,
that's real, yo. Man, Houston's obviously in a great place
now two of the biggest artists in the fucking world
of Travis and Meghan. How do you feel like, uh,
just the scene locally is doing right now outside of

(44:37):
those two because obviously they're fucking out of here. But
just like in terms of just like the underground scene,
I guess, man, I mean, you got as far as
like newer artists, you got you know, South sotwalkers killing it.
You got pro pain has been dope for a while too. Yep,
you got Max O Cream just put out a crazy

(44:58):
record with Benning the Butcher, so I'm trying not to leave.
You got Toby. I don't know how to pronounce his
last name, so I always fuck his name up too,
so just be He's incredible. Yeah, it's talent out there. Man,
It's a lot of youngs. It's O M. B. Blood Bad,
a lady named Lady Ices. She's on the Freshman cover.

(45:22):
So it's like a it's a lot of artists. Man,
I don't want to forget. It's crazy too because now
like I feel like Houston without even I don't feel
like we acknowledge Houston is like one of the big
cities still, like right now if you really look at
like who's popping and hip hop like Houston is like
and also people love to go to Houston and record.

(45:43):
Houston is like a place people really enjoyed it just
oh yeah, yeah yeah. Not a lot of the artists
they come out. I know people who just who moved there.
Like a lot of people just live there because there's
no state tax. The food's good, clubs are amazing. Property
property is not too crazy. Oh yeah, now that's where
you we play Monopoly out there, Twelopoli board game. Like bro,
we that's why we love it where we're at. Yeah

(46:04):
we can, we don't. Yeah, we don't never have to leave.
If we never, you know, wanted to leave, we would
be kind of in the middle of everything. Quick flights Atlanta,
Quick flight to La Yeah, the hug Man and when
y'all do go to Houston, When y'all do go to Houston,
Turkey leg hut, get the Alfredo. Is that your spot?
Now that's my homie Lynn and his wife. What Turkey

(46:25):
leg hut? Yes, Hey, get the Alfred of the shrimp
Alfredo Turkey leg with the rice. That sounds amazing, like
it's like stuffed and man, now I'm hungry. Oh yeah,
I am too, as soon as I get done with this.
But there it is. Look little flip new music coming,
Oh yeah, all the freestyle three, coming to the freestyle three.

(46:46):
We're gonna get to some freestyling. Oh yeah. August nineteenth
man for YouTube video definitely. Then after that I'm dropping
funds and filip and then you know, me and zero
we got kings in the South part too. On tonight
videos out right now doing numbers. Check it out. Flipp
and zero f A Lovey f A The Homies. Yes,

(47:06):
sir F is a good guy man. He did, let's
get it.
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