July 27, 2021 • 36 mins
Interview #85 on The Bootleg Kev Podcast we have Carson’s own Jayson Cash! We talk about how he first got started rapping and where he gets his influence from. We also touch on the early days working with Blxst, working with Dr. Dre and being the next one up out of the West Coast!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right yo Bulet Cas Show, Bulllet Care Podcast special
guests in here, my guy Jason Cash. Yeah, Carson Zone
is here, Yes, sir, welcome man, thank you for having me.
I'm glad you're you know, you've been working on so
much music for I feel like the last few years,
and uh, finally it started for getting music from you,
(00:21):
right right right, yeah for two for two so far. Man,
congrats just on everything, like for people who don't know,
like kind of give a little bit of a background,
like just who you are, where you're from, and like
how long you've been doing this rap shit? Man, Man,
I've been. I've been releasing records since MySpace, MySpace dage sure,
like I was dropping on MySpace. I go back to
(00:42):
like the I remember like some of my first ships
I was dropping. It wasn't even on a platform like
I used to just make the line links file. Yeah,
I remember those just dropping that shit on Twitter. But
you know I'm from Carson, man, I've been on this
journey for for a cool little minute. Man. Hurdles of course,
waggling through the bullshit, figuring out you know, what works
(01:06):
what don't work, right, So it's been a it's been
a long journey of just trying to figure out my footing.
And so now that we're in a position where you know,
we had the music and now we kind of have
the personnel, it's like, okay, now let's maximize everything that
we're doing. Yeah, you're sitting on a insane cachet of music.
How much? How many songs are like that that are
(01:27):
like that? Are you like these? I like these? Are
you actually like sitting on the ship man? A lot?
A lot? And that's stuff that's the hard part. That's
the hard part because it'd be like certain songs that
you really really not only do you really like, but
you have a connection to the record, so you're like, damn,
I want this ship to come out and choosing from
your kids, right, Yeah, that's why I kind of learned
(01:50):
to stop time stamping the music. Right. Sometimes you'll say
some ship that like it's like, yeah, it's like now
you can't use that line. It's like something that would
have made sense two years exactly, so now you got
to switch it in in and all that stuff like that.
So I've been trying not to do that with the records,
but now it's it's a lot of stuff and certain
ship what I've been doing is certain records where it'd
be like I love it, but I understand the business
(02:12):
that we Okay, this might not m well for me,
So I might take a verse off a record and
put it on something else, or take a couple of lines,
or rework a car that was on another record. But
we definitely have a lot of records. Yeah, Kanye used
to do that. You would like hear like like old
school like Kanye mixtapes and he would have like that,
like there was that line that the mayonnaise color bands
(02:33):
and pushed miracle whips and then you had ended up.
So yeah, I heard it on one of one of
his you know mixtapes when I was in high school.
And then College Dropout came out and he had it
on the Breathing Breath. But it would he would have
lines like that where he would be like he'd have
a feature come out, and I'm like, man, I heard
that bar on his right. But it makes sense because
why if you're smart enough to know like this song
(02:54):
might not never see the light of day. But I
said some ship on here. Yeah, So what I try
to do, I try to be careful like the ones
like you asked me about a song off the record.
I'm like, I don't know if that song is gone
ever really move. So I stopped playing it for people
because I'm like, all right, I don't want to say
these lines or something else. And people be like, oh, yeah,
I heard that, so it makes sense. That makes sense. Man,
(03:17):
your favorite rapper sugar sugar Free. And now if anyone
who's like heard you or listened to your raps, like,
it's very evident that he is an influence. It's crazy.
I was. I was telling him. I'm like, you know,
especially being from out here, when people will hear you,
they'd be like, oh, you sound like like I used
to take when I was first taking label meters. They
was telling me like, man, you sound like the Crosby
team between Kendrick and school Boy Q. And you know,
(03:40):
I get it. But I always tell people like, if
you really know, like if you really know, you know
what it is, like, Yeah, that's that's sugar Free reincarnated.
Yeah that's I mean. The first time I heard you,
like on Instagram or Twitter or whatever it was, I
was like, yo, he's I hear the Sugar Free influence
like heavily. You know what I'm saying, and I know that,
you know, you just posted a video of you guys
(04:02):
get a studio together. I believe you played me a
song where he's on it. Yeah, how big of a
deal is that, Like, you know, bigger than signing the deal.
That's crazy, man, So it kind of give us that
that story. I literally just posted the video right now.
We're in the studio and he telling me about how
he fuck with my style and I'm like, shit, I
took your shit right and just made him my own.
(04:24):
Like I was literally tell him. I'm like, it's like
having a space jam ball, Like I just went to
you and I'm like, I can't take your power. But
it's like I just took you know, your cadences inflicted
because I mean, I ain't no pimp. I've never you
know before, but I fucked with you know, his message him,
his message being the fact that this is what I'm
(04:45):
gonna talk about, This is what I'm gonna be on
and I don't give a fuck about nothing else but this.
You know what I mean. You ain't never heard sugar
free this nobody. You ain't never heard him talk bad
about nobody on record. He was like, I dedicated my
career to this and I fucked with that, you know,
and then just the way that he did it, it it
was just yeah, his delivery. I feel like, you know,
we don't give enough props to sugar Free when it
comes to like how unique of an artist he was.
(05:07):
It's very charismatic, real conversational, you know, like and nobody
sounded like sugar Free ever. No, you know, like if
you think about like his era, there was nobody who
you could be like, like you could box him in
with right right, right, and it's so crazy. One of
one you hear certain people that got the influence. Like
I was in the studio and one take Jay and
I was just and I was listening to him. I'm
like I was telling the hummies. I'm like, damn me,
(05:29):
and won't take Jay rapped the same way, Like we
just do it different, but we both took his cadences.
Like when I was really listening to like a song,
I was like, damn, he raps the same way I would,
because what it is is it's a swing. So we're
not rapping directly on the one, you know, you might
be slightly before it or slightly talking to Free about that.
It's like certain people you hear that, so they might
(05:52):
say you sound off beat, but it's not really you know,
off beat, And that's like why blast beats are so smooth,
because the drums are hitting different. So if you wouldnad
your head like this to a certain song, now you
this way, because it's just a slightly different brood. So
I'll do that with the raps, but no like sugar
free shit man. I met him a couple of years ago.
(06:14):
I had popped up at this at this spot he
was performing at We'll go my way backstage or whatever,
you know, introduced myself and was just letting him know
what he meant to me. I got cool with one
of one of his artists, pomon the Dirt. Shout out
Pomona Dirt, but we stayed kind of tapped in on
the ground, so they were doing something else. I popped
up there. Pomona Dirt took me to the little backstage
(06:35):
area so I got to you know, chop it with
Fred again. But that was like twenty eighteen. I hadn't
physically seen him since, so it was crazy because when
he got to the studio, like you know, I got
these dark ass shades all right, right right, I had
these shits on in the booth and I was recording
with my eyes closed. I look up and this motherfuckers
then walked into the booth and I'm like, oh shit,
(06:59):
you know, nobody even told me. You know that he
was like there at the time. So I come out
there and he was like, man, I've been looking for you.
I've been looking for you for like two three years.
Like god damn, Like I would never think that, right,
you know. So he remembered you for meeting the backstage,
but he was like, I want to sign you. He's like,
I've been looking for you. That motherfucker telling me I've
been looking for you in the daytime with a flash,
(07:19):
like man, my lions. I you know what's crazy about
sugar Free is he's one of the only rappers who
when I met him, it was the exact like as
a kid if he told me I'd meet Sugar Food
one day, exactly what he was in Las Vegas at
the Planet Hollywood Miracle Mile Mall walking through the mall
(07:40):
with two females on leashes and he was performing that night.
It was like old school West Coast show was like
ice Cube, Snoop Too Short, like Sugar Free. He was
walking through the mall. He had two girls on leashes, bro,
And I was like, this is amazing, right, this is
exactly what I what I had hoped for when meeting
Sugar Free, Like, how about this is a yeah? Fuck
(08:00):
keep it suited and booted. I said, this is this
is incredible. I asked this sneak man, I said, I said,
I said, man, while you was like pimping, like full
fledged pimping, man, Like, how did you like like lock
in so heavy on your craft man and keep your
wrapsight because you stopped he stopped pimping after the first
(08:21):
album and all that ship, you know what I'm saying.
So he looked at me, bro, like I got to say,
if I didn't have shave his own, bro, I would
have folded. I'm talking about. He looked at me so cold,
like he was looking through me, right John and my lion. Bro.
That motherfucker he said, just like this, you know how
to walking to you bubba gum. At the same time,
(08:47):
I laughed like that right, He didn't say nothing. He
just kept looking at me. All right then all right
then I was like, oh shit, this motherfucker is for real. Damn.
He wasn't playing bro. He like he's stared through me.
And he said that it's so funny because I like,
I'll be in the car, like with my wife and
(09:07):
I'll be listening to sugar Free sometimes and she'll be
it so like, what the fuck are you listening? What
is this guy saying? Like it's crazy because like it's unfortunate,
like like sugar Free couldn't exist in twenty twenty one.
He gets fucking canceled. Man, Man, they'd be like, what
by my ex she knew, like she got in my
(09:30):
car she heard the sugar Free I'm not fucking with you.
I used to cut that shit on. Let her know,
like I'm not. That's great. That's how you put somebody
under conviction. You cut that free on. Man, you throw
that sugar Free on. Like, listen, listen, man, listen better
listen to these words, listen to these lyrics. Nah, y'all.
But I love sugar Free. Like I told him at
the end of the night when he was like, man,
thanks for having me, you know it. Just love appreciate you.
(09:52):
And I was just saying to him, I'm like, man, dog,
I owe you, man, like taking your style. I was
able to go get a deal and provide for myself
and my family. That's incredible and that's just the Also
the fact that you're very like you pay homage to him,
because a lot of people they don't have the humility
to do such as right he said, he was like, man,
he was like, I fuck with the fact you said
it in front of you know, all your boys. I'm like, nah,
they all know. I love you, man, Like you know,
(10:13):
everybody know. I ain't ashamed of that. Like I just seen.
I was talking to g Perico on Sunday and I
was telling him some things about him that I super
fuck with. And any artists that that I'm a real
fan of that I really fuck with, like like my
boy will tell you. I was in there with Dom
and I was saying, like, dog, I warn't my hats
the way I war on because of you. I'm not
one of them rappers that's too cool to give up.
(10:35):
To give up. If you see somebody and you fuck
with it, you let him fuck you, let him know
that you fuck with it. Me and Mike and Me
and Mike from Mike and Keys, we was we was
talking about Supreme because I'm really into you know, superb ship.
So we was talking about it and we was like, man,
you know, the first motherfucker we were seeing in that
ship was Casey Veggie's Facts. But I'm like yeah, I
was like, bro, Casey was one of the the first
(10:55):
young fly dudes. Like yeah, people, people don't give you know,
Casey enough credit when it comes to like what him
and and what were doing like twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen
and just that whole movement when it came to like
the fashion and like right, you know. So we was
talking about that shit and then Casey pop up at
the spot where was at. So I was telling I
was like, nah, yeah, I remember, you know, because I
(11:17):
started quoting these lyrics to him from this this shit.
He had caught the Pennies back in the day. So
I rapped it to him. He's he laughing rapping it
with me and shit, and I was like, yeah, I
remember the video. You had them brown and purple the
Supreme Timberling joints. So it was like damn, like I
for sure did. I'm like yeah, but like I'm I
know I could rap, bro, Like you know what I'm saying, Like,
I know I could rap. I know what I'm gonna be.
(11:37):
I know where I'm going, I know where I'm headed,
but I don't I don't feel no way letting the
motherfucking know like hey, nah, I fuck with you or
at this specific time, there's certain shit you did inspire
me be cause I mean, like that's important, man, because
at the end of the day, like I'm confident in myself,
nobody is. Nobody got to where they are in whatever
field you're doing. And when it comes to art, you
(11:57):
know what I'm saying. Without without having people who inspire
then right and to act otherwise, it's crazy. Right. Yeah,
don't get me wrong. We get on the court, you
know what I mean, I'm still going of course, Yeah,
but you gotta give it. Like it's like bro like
of course, like even like me, like you know, the
first time I'm at Big Boy or you know, it's
like yo, like you're I grew up like listening to you.
(12:18):
You know what I'm saying, Like this is like crazy
that I know you now. I still yeah, but it's
like dude, like you're a fucking legend, Like thank you
for everything you've done for industry. Yeah, Like I'm here
because you know, like you know what I mean like
so I always try to do that, especially with like,
you know, certain radio dudes like who you know. You know,
(12:41):
I kind of came up doing like an underground hip
hop specialty show, right, but that came from Friday Night Flavors,
which was on a Powerwan six with mister Chalk and
those guys and uh you know that they kind of
and and when I met Sway, I was like, dude,
like I used to buy the Swaying King Tech Freestyle
CDs and like you guys are like what I wanted
(13:02):
to be. I wanted to just play underground rap music.
But about that is when you give somebody their flowers
like that a lot of time, it's some game that
come back with it, for sure, Like you learned a lot. Yeah,
like Sway, Bro. Sway was like, you know, as a
kid man, you know, I listened to the wake Up
Show every weekend, and you know, to have a relationship
with him, it's crazy, you know what I mean, be like, damn,
(13:23):
I know Sway right, And then he gave it up
to me, brought me in head on his show and
was like we're the gatekeepers of the West. I was like, Damn,
this is crazy. Someone should pinch me right now? But
I saw that video and I figured I said that
in the rap. I'm sending that to sugar Free, like
should a dream somebody pinched me? Yep. I had to
put that in the verse because I really, you know, like, damn, nah, man,
(13:45):
that's big because I know you. You know, it's evident,
like how big of influence is on you? And then
you and I talked, you know, four or five months ago,
pulled up on me and I was like, yeah, man,
that's a big deal. That was dope. You got to
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save twenty percent. For people who don't know like you
and Blast, you got a new record out. But like
you guys are very much rooted in this game together.
You know a lot of people who are just getting
up on Blast don't realize he's kind of like he's
(15:07):
not new. He's been a factor in the scene as
far as being a producer, engineer. I mean, he can
do it all. You know. He's kind of like LA's Russ,
but you know Russ always brags it. He mixes the
masters and records himself and makes the beat. I'm like, yo,
Blast is all that shit. I was saying, More like
he like a liked a new quick for sure, Nah
for sure, But like you guys got got it out
(15:29):
the mud together, and you had told me some stories
about like some early stuff with you and Blast. Will
kind of give me a background on how you guys
met and you guys just kind of come up. Has
been kind of synonymous, you know what I'm saying. I
met Blast. I went to school with his nephews, So,
like I was at school rapping and shit like that.
So I guess it was going on. Yeahs just do
it at the school, cash or whatever. So we were
(15:51):
working with some of the We were around some of
the same people early because his nephews were rapping and
it was this producer and Carson name named Joseph. He
went by stunning Bee. But I know Blast was like
recording shit at stunning Bee crib right. But like it
was like Christmas break of like two thousand eight, damn,
Like we had linked up at everybody had went up
(16:14):
to Calstate Domingus again from Carson, So everybody went to
cal State Dimingas was like having this football game and
Blast came up there with his nephews. That was my
first time. Oh wait, yeah I met Blash. Oh right,
that's a long time ago, man, Yeah, it's thirteen years ago. Yeah,
so at what point in time did you guys start
to have like a creative relationship where you guys started
(16:35):
to make music together. So we did a song back then.
I think I did my first song with Blast when
I was like sixteen. He had this, He sent me
this record. It was called Gohart. This was the first
the first song I ever deal with Blast was called Gohart.
So he sent it to me and I recorded it
at home and I sent it to him and he
(16:55):
was like, Yo, can you send me like the wayfil
I'm like, what the fuck is this? Nick? You know?
I found out later like the first person that put
him on like mixing and shit was Chris O'Bannon. O'Bannon
was around back then too, But yeah, so yeah, we
did that record back then. I don't even know if
that ship ever came out, But what ends up happening,
(17:20):
I want to say. I always just was seeing them around,
like going to different ship, like leaving parties and coming
to the Dennis and Carson and seeing him in the
Homie PJ there and just going out to spots and
running into him. And then I had did the La Cipher,
which was breezy in the street ship and Blast was
doing all the beats for it, et cetera. So I
(17:42):
went up there and I did it, and I won,
and so like one of the prize was like you
do a session with Blast and Blast does the beat
or whatever something like that. So I had pulled up
and I recorded with him. But at the time, I
was recording with this dude named Kytel, which is Reasons engineer.
(18:02):
So I had a session. But the day I had
the session with Kytel, he told me his studio burned
down Jesus. So I asked Blast, because I come and
record the record with him. I was doing a verse
for my homeboy from my neighborhood castone. So I pulled
up over there, I did the record with Blast, and
I just started recording with Blast on the regular after that.
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So this was I want to say, twenty sixteen maybe,
So you guys are kind of reconnected around like we
were seeing each other like all right, created each other creatively,
you guys stride around. We started we started back like
being around each other like on the regular, like twenty sixteen.
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So I was over there like we was in the
studio with each other every day, just moving around and
then yeah shit, Blast was I think when I trying
to think, I did a Yeah, we did a song.
We did a song called a called signing Off. I
(19:06):
remember I sent the record to Blast and I was
out to eat and I was like out of garden
and I got the verse back I heard. I went
in the car. I mean, I went to the bathroom.
I'm listening to the play, like, oh shit, this like
he was a rap verse Like Blast, I rapped on
a song, but not only did he rap on it.
I was making my own beats at the time. In Blast,
I did additional production on the record. I was like,
(19:26):
oh shit, like that added something to it. So there
and other records I was doing, I was sending Blast
to you know here what you got for this one?
Right right right? So it just became like a that's
fire man, but yeah, Blast, my boy. A lot of
people like I got. I was telling you off the camera,
like I got a d M. When Priority dropped. Motherfucker
asked me like, how about you pay for the future? Man?
(19:47):
How did you get a Blast future and how much
did you pay for it? And I was just like, damn,
like that's crazy. You know, I'd be having to remember though,
Blast is bro in life right now, you know what
I'm saying. So a lot of people that don't, that
don't know the history, they they'll never know, Like Okay,
well shit like this is actually my boy, Like we
didn't actually did each things for each other, et cetera.
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You know what I'm saying. But now you're a fucking blast.
That's like one of my my friends. It's not really
like a rap right now. It's it's a friendship for sure.
I know broke parents, Like he met mine right right,
that's wild man. You know he's scorching right now. How
this nigga in LA? For sure, I would say on
the West Coast, I'll give him that too, you know
what I'm saying, Like I mean, I mean he's definitely
(20:31):
in that conversation. Uh yeah, for sure. You've met like
you always are like taking photos with like legends, so
like you'll be in the studio with like Snoop or Dre,
you know, like like, uh, talk to me about like
meeting Dre and you know obviously you know that has
gotta be uh. I mean there's I've never met Draft,
(20:54):
never met Hove. I can imagine like meeting either one
of those two guys would be just like, yeah, I
never met Ja, but those are the two guys I
always thinking, like, man if because I met Kanye when
I was like sixteen, but never mad. Yeah, Dre or
Hove would be crazy. But like you actually been in
the studio with Dre more than once. I've been to
doctor Dre's house. You've been to his house, into his house.
(21:15):
We just got a thousand pair of white air Force one.
But like I went on a tour in doctor Dre house.
He like showing you like long ass swimming pool, like
his gym, like he hitting the speed bag and shit,
and I heard his studios and saying in his house
yeah yeah, yeah that was crazy. So my first time pulled,
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I went to the UH to the studio in his crib.
So when I posted pictures in the studio with Dre,
I was I was at his house. That's fire. So
how was like? How was that man like and crazy?
What was the conversations like with Dre? Did you play
in many music? Yeah? I did. I played the music.
I definitely did, but shit, man, the conversation was super
(21:56):
crazy because I'm like, man, I got my daughter was
on the way and I getting dad advice from Doctor
Dre and ship like that, and that shit was just
like damn, that's big no wow, but another pinch me moment.
Well yeah not yeah, I played on music. But it's
crazy because like when we got in there, like he
was in there with d OC, like Fred rec was there,
(22:17):
like it was like some real his team. There was
some real shit going on. So Fuzzy was like, you know,
you want to want to play some records and he
was like yeah. He kept saying like the mic is
hot because they was they was writing, so he was
saying like basically, he wasn't about to let me press
play until you know, we did something. I want to
(22:37):
see what he could do. He just kept saying that.
So I watched him. He went up to the boot.
I mean, he went up to the mic and he
was laying just like melody I guess you would say, right,
So he was he was mumbling and there was like
halfway words there. So what I did was like Fuzzy
kept saying like you're ready, You're ready. So I sat
(22:59):
in the back and I put words to the mumbles.
So I went up to when I when I finally
walked up to the mic, it was it was like
eight bars because I had filled in every other thing
he did, so it was it was like instant respect.
That's fire. And also the fact that like no one's
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ever gonna hear what you did because because because we
been waiting for the Detoks since I was I wasn't
old enough to drink. It's crazy though, because certain things
carry over, because that was the day where I found
out not to timestamp music because I was he was saying,
I took the mumbles and I put words to him right,
(23:42):
and it's so crazy. If Fuzzy with here, he would
tell you I set a line and he reacted to
it while I was recording, and that's what stopped me
from recording. So the last line, I was fitting his
mumbles and I said, back up off me, bitch, social
distance and he was like, oh, ship like because he's
looking at me like I'm coming off there off the
top of the head. But he was like, man, that's
shit hard. We got to change it though, because it's
(24:05):
gonna make it time related to this era. Yeah, So
that's some real ship though. When I learned that, and
you never know like that at the end of the day,
you know, with dre we just never know what's gonna happen.
Like one day we might wake up and we actually
might have a doctor, Dre. I mean we I didn't
expect the Compton album to come out. Now, Yeah I heard,
I heard some ship. I'm like, he's definitely no. I mean,
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I know he's always working, but it made me like
feel like I wasn't doing enough. Yeah. Bro, he's accomplished everything,
and I'm like, damn, he got all these records, just
really in here, just going crazy. So I went that night.
I went that night, and then we doubled back and
came back again. And it was dope because I we went.
It was like, uh, Lakers in Miami and watching the game,
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Oh the finals, right, So Kovo was there Anderson Pack
was there. So I ended up. Uh they were they
were working on the record and I got to right
on another record with them. Also, that's huge here in
the circle. That's been man doing the same ship. So
so Dre was cool though. That looked cool. It Bro
trimmed me out. I'm telling the hummies, I'm like, man,
because none of my homeboys call me Jason. Like, if
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the honey call me Jason, you're trying to be funny
or like you knew me like on some other ship,
but like everybody cost me cash. I don't like it's
weird because if you know me as Jason and call
me Jason, if you know me as Cash and call
me that. But yeah, he was like, what you think
about that, Jason? I ain't about to tell that straight up?
Oh ship, he calling me Jason, that's crazy, that's so crazy.
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And then Snoop is just man, Bro, Snoop is uh.
I've I've hung out with Snoop and smoke with him
once and he was like the nicest dude. He was
just the whole vibe he was. He was in his
green room playing like oldies on his like DJ controller,
getting high, getting his hair done. It was like it
was like another guy who I met, and I was like,
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this is this is about what I expected from Snoop
is amazing. Yeah, Man, he just Snoopy super super Yeah.
I just like forget just how listen Snoop Dogg really
like deal he is like the way he acts. Snoop
changed my life. Man. Doggy Style was the first rap
album that I really like fell in love with. I
was five years old, Bro, and my grandma remember back
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in the day in the magazines used to be able
to get like ten ten seeds like the dollar. So
she got a Doggy Style on tape by accident, and
it was my grandma's old as fuck, so it was
like a cartoon on the cover. So she gave it
to me. I fucking bro I had that like literally,
I like like knew that whole album like front to
back in kindergarten year and then my mom heard me
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listening to it and she took it and hit it,
and then I found it. My favorite Snoop song is
definitely on that album. Which song is it? Oh? Yeah,
it's fucking amazing. Yeah. I actually think Doggy Style is
a top three or four album of all time, and
I think it's it's my personal favorite album to ever
come out of the West Coast. It's my number one.
I mean, obviously, you know there's other ones in that conversation,
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but for me, it's it's the all your style, man.
That's that's definitely up there. I put dog Your Style
over everything ever. Come. I'm not I'm not mad at that.
Ye're just for me for me, you know, Yeah, I
mean that's I always I always like to leave with
the for me, Like, I Uh, when I sat down
with Big Boy, I was talking about Kendrick, I'm like
my goat. He was like, why you call him yo go?
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I said, because can't nobody tell me it's not my
go He's your goat? And like, for the record, even me,
like I always I have Kendrick in my top five
and people always give me ship and I'm like, yo, man, Like,
if you could put Biggie in your top five off
a two albums, right, he put out two albums, right
and then he passed away. If you could put him
in your top five off of two fucking albums Kendrick has.
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If we're and I'm not even counting section eighty, Kendrick
Amari p overly dedicated, I'm not talking about none of that.
If we're just talking about just the albums, just the
I mean, come on, man, let's and even take untitled
the out of the discussion. We're talking those three albums.
Come on, man, it's three for three. He's working on
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one of the best discography's ever right now. And the
section eighty is a classic in my opinion. Sure yeah,
Kendrick stopblem Kendrick Lamar E. P O. D. Like over
the dedicated pussy in Petron. Come on, man, man, have
souls on that thing. Man, Carson in the house, shout
out to Apps, So shout out to Carson. What I
mean obviously, you know coming out of Carson like Appsoles like, uh,
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you know, Ashole rass cast. Shout out to Bishop Lamont, man,
Bishop Lamont had some ship Brandy Ray j reason yeah,
and cash chasing, I mean ship a hell of a
a hell of a boy meach play pocket all eves
on me. You know, Oh ship fire ship Carson. That's
that's yeah. Man. Shout out to Carson, like how how
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I mean obviously, like Carson is kind of probably one
of the more like lesser known LA areas, you know
when it comes to just like nationwide and when out
all the time. Yeah, I think it's important man, because
I go out of town, they like, where are you from?
Like I'm saying from LA but I'm from La County.
I'm not from the city of Los Angeles. You're from
the city of Carson. From the city of Carson. And
then when I stayd from Carson, I gotta say, yeah,
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it's between Compton and Long Beach. Is like nah, I
want to get to a point where motherfucker be like,
where you from from Carson? Oh yeah, okay, I mean
that's what Snoop did when he came in. Nobody knows
about Long Beach. People tell me about that. Ye. People
would just be like, yeah, from LA, that's from Long
Beach and you knew it, right, That's all my first single.
All I know. I said, you got to crrack the
door like Uncle Snoop did, put your whole city on.
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That's the blueprint. Snoop came through the east side, is
you know what I mean? The Twins. It was just
even just like just he would always it would always,
you would always just hear Long Beach from the chronic
like all the way to you know, like you said,
the east side of shit. But even like chronics all
you say, you knew where the fuck he was from, right,
And even the video the videos, nah, for sure, even
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though some La shit. It's like everybody didn't pass through
Carson like you probably Yo, you gotta untie, your grandma,
somebody that lived in Carson. You went to the champagne
parties there and then it's like it TD Studios in Carson,
you know, like that's where that ship jumped off, which
is crazy. When I when I played I had I
had a record called Carson in the House, I played
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it for Doctor Dre and he was just like, yo,
I lived in Carson for a year. He was like,
and my mom had a store in the Carson mall
like that. He stopped me halfway through the song to
tell me that. And I was talking to Snooper about it,
and he was like, you know, back in the day,
like you know, used to tell a girl that you
from Carson because it's like they known for having a
nice houses and shit like that. It's like their family
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look at you like okay, he cool. No, but a
lot of people didn't pass through Carson and have some
type of you know, connection to it. And even like
with Compton being so big, it's like, bro, we only
separated by the ninety one freeway. Like that's literally we cousins.
Shout out to all the Simons too, from Carson. Yeah, yeah,
you know what I'm saying from Carson. Yeah, but y'all
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tried to oh, forgive me charged my mind, not my heart. Yeah,
but y'all tried Carson inflections as well. Man, how did
you getting shot change your life? Realize this shit is real,
because that's shit could be over, Like yeah, man, because
you know I've been I mean, I've never been shot,
but I got into a really bad accident, and it
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was very like just to know, like, oh yeah, because
it's not so much to getting shot is just face
some mortality like period, right, just knowing you could be
up out of here. It just it just changes the
way that you look at life because you go to
sleep thinking Tomorrow's promise. You always think that you think, yeah,
we grow up a certain way where it's like, yeah,
we're so like you know what I mean. I think
we grew up in an era where it's like, you know,
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we got good medicine, we had to deal with Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. But for the most part,
it's like, you know, this shit could really be over
and there's nothing you can do about it. Did it
make you like move any differently? Did it make you
just to change anything that you did as far as
just like I mean, yeah, naturally, But I always say,
like for me, like getting shot, I was in the
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wrong place at the wrong time, So I probably would
feel about it different if it was somebody actually looking
for Jason or somebody like they weren't like teaking you out. Yeah,
Like if it was that, then you know what I mean,
I probably move even way more different. But it's just
like that's just some la shit, Like you might just
get caught like a bad place at a bad time,
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wrong place, wrong time, and it could just be up
like that. But nah, definitely definitely become a lot more cautious,
mindful of you know what I mean, like where you're
at or who knows where you're at, or just how
you move, especially now you know you get the new
baby and you know things that you got a lot
more to live for man, right, and then you know
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everybody ain't happy for you. Most people aren't happy for
you that are from where you're from. Like I feel like,
you know, most of the people who hate my guts
are because like they didn't make it out of where
I'm from. Like you know what I'm saying, Like my
biggest haters in the world are in my hometown. Yeah,
of course, I feel like, you know, obviously you're gonna
have people happy for you, but like your biggest haters
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usually are from your hometown. I get a lot of
love at home. I mean, that's important, But I just mean,
like in general, like you know, like there's probably like
five or six people who are so envious of your success.
The scary part about that is the people that feel
that way, like you never know it, You'll never know.
You might see them and they hug you and they
tell you how much they fuck with you, so you
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you would never know it. So I always, you know, like,
I ain't funny style, so I you know, it's I'm cool,
but I kind of try to stick to just, you know,
my comfort because I don't even want to put myself
in a position where I have to find out how
somebody really feel about me. That's some real shit. Man.
I gotta get home. I know you got some new
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music coming out with Buddy soon. Is there gonna be
a mixtape album? Are we just putting out songs right now?
We drop heating it up? Dropping singles, heating it up?
Getting ready? You know, I gotta finalize this EP, figure
this track lists out with something. Well, you know, I
heard a record that you and Simba have called west
Side Griselda that was supposed to be on his album
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and it didn't end up on his album because sample issues,
right that song ever gonna come out. I don't know. Yeah,
that would have been nice to that shit was fire,
I don't know. I got another record with Simber though, yeah,
the West Side Griselda. Those crazy You ain't hurt this
other one though. I was for you all right man?
But now yeah, what's Si Grizelta? Was? I mean, is crazy?
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I got my deal off West Side Griselda. Well there
it is. Yeah, Well look man, the show we did
that record when it got mixed, I mean when Dallas
just first heard it, or even just my production company,
Start Island. I think when Donnie heard it was just
like what the fuck is this? I remember Fuzzy hearing
it is just the reaction everywhere. Matter of fact, I
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played that's the first So I played a record for doctors, right,
the first one, right, the first song I played I
keep it on Hunted. Like the reaction was like it
was cool right and you know too, yeah it was.
It was like it wasn't like oh I don't funk
with this or I super fuck with it, but it
was like that's cool. Yeah, he wasn't just like overly impressed.
I played West Side Griselda. I get through my verse.
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The motherfucker go start that ship over, walks up to
the to the board, cuts up everything, like cuts up everything.
He got them big speakers. Oh my god, I heard
his speakers. Are fucking crazy there, dog like, I'm playing
this ship again. I'm going I'm going through it. He's
standing behind me, going going up l a going like this.
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He's like, yeah, Cash, fuck with this ship. That's so crazy.
That was west Side. Griselda played that ship. Put the
fucking song out, man, what's the point of Atlantic? Can
we get some samples clear for sake Jesus. Anyway, look, man,
be on the lookout. Go support the record you got.
You got two songs out priority with Blast. Yeah, all
I know is out as well. Yeah, so go run
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them up. You to Spotify and new music is coming
as well. Yeah, man, I'm on your ass man, Jason Cash,
Yeah yeah, Carson Boom
All right yo Bulet Cas Show, Bulllet Care Podcast special
guests in here, my guy Jason Cash. Yeah, Carson Zone
is here, Yes, sir, welcome man, thank you for having me.
I'm glad you're you know, you've been working on so
much music for I feel like the last few years,
and uh, finally it started for getting music from you,
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right right right, yeah for two for two so far. Man,
congrats just on everything, like for people who don't know,
like kind of give a little bit of a background,
like just who you are, where you're from, and like
how long you've been doing this rap shit? Man, Man,
I've been. I've been releasing records since MySpace, MySpace dage sure,
like I was dropping on MySpace. I go back to
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like the I remember like some of my first ships
I was dropping. It wasn't even on a platform like
I used to just make the line links file. Yeah,
I remember those just dropping that shit on Twitter. But
you know I'm from Carson, man, I've been on this
journey for for a cool little minute. Man. Hurdles of course,
waggling through the bullshit, figuring out you know, what works
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what don't work, right, So it's been a it's been
a long journey of just trying to figure out my footing.
And so now that we're in a position where you know,
we had the music and now we kind of have
the personnel, it's like, okay, now let's maximize everything that
we're doing. Yeah, you're sitting on a insane cachet of music.
How much? How many songs are like that that are
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like that? Are you like these? I like these? Are
you actually like sitting on the ship man? A lot?
A lot? And that's stuff that's the hard part. That's
the hard part because it'd be like certain songs that
you really really not only do you really like, but
you have a connection to the record, so you're like, damn,
I want this ship to come out and choosing from
your kids, right, Yeah, that's why I kind of learned
(01:50):
to stop time stamping the music. Right. Sometimes you'll say
some ship that like it's like, yeah, it's like now
you can't use that line. It's like something that would
have made sense two years exactly, so now you got
to switch it in in and all that stuff like that.
So I've been trying not to do that with the records,
but now it's it's a lot of stuff and certain
ship what I've been doing is certain records where it'd
be like I love it, but I understand the business
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that we Okay, this might not m well for me,
So I might take a verse off a record and
put it on something else, or take a couple of lines,
or rework a car that was on another record. But
we definitely have a lot of records. Yeah, Kanye used
to do that. You would like hear like like old
school like Kanye mixtapes and he would have like that,
like there was that line that the mayonnaise color bands
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and pushed miracle whips and then you had ended up.
So yeah, I heard it on one of one of
his you know mixtapes when I was in high school.
And then College Dropout came out and he had it
on the Breathing Breath. But it would he would have
lines like that where he would be like he'd have
a feature come out, and I'm like, man, I heard
that bar on his right. But it makes sense because
why if you're smart enough to know like this song
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might not never see the light of day. But I
said some ship on here. Yeah, So what I try
to do, I try to be careful like the ones
like you asked me about a song off the record.
I'm like, I don't know if that song is gone
ever really move. So I stopped playing it for people
because I'm like, all right, I don't want to say
these lines or something else. And people be like, oh, yeah,
I heard that, so it makes sense. That makes sense. Man,
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your favorite rapper sugar sugar Free. And now if anyone
who's like heard you or listened to your raps, like,
it's very evident that he is an influence. It's crazy.
I was. I was telling him. I'm like, you know,
especially being from out here, when people will hear you,
they'd be like, oh, you sound like like I used
to take when I was first taking label meters. They
was telling me like, man, you sound like the Crosby
team between Kendrick and school Boy Q. And you know,
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I get it. But I always tell people like, if
you really know, like if you really know, you know
what it is, like, Yeah, that's that's sugar Free reincarnated.
Yeah that's I mean. The first time I heard you,
like on Instagram or Twitter or whatever it was, I
was like, yo, he's I hear the Sugar Free influence
like heavily. You know what I'm saying, and I know that,
you know, you just posted a video of you guys
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get a studio together. I believe you played me a
song where he's on it. Yeah, how big of a
deal is that, Like, you know, bigger than signing the deal.
That's crazy, man, So it kind of give us that
that story. I literally just posted the video right now.
We're in the studio and he telling me about how
he fuck with my style and I'm like, shit, I
took your shit right and just made him my own.
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Like I was literally tell him. I'm like, it's like
having a space jam ball, Like I just went to
you and I'm like, I can't take your power. But
it's like I just took you know, your cadences inflicted
because I mean, I ain't no pimp. I've never you
know before, but I fucked with you know, his message him,
his message being the fact that this is what I'm
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gonna talk about, This is what I'm gonna be on
and I don't give a fuck about nothing else but this.
You know what I mean. You ain't never heard sugar
free this nobody. You ain't never heard him talk bad
about nobody on record. He was like, I dedicated my
career to this and I fucked with that, you know,
and then just the way that he did it, it it
was just yeah, his delivery. I feel like, you know,
we don't give enough props to sugar Free when it
comes to like how unique of an artist he was.
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It's very charismatic, real conversational, you know, like and nobody
sounded like sugar Free ever. No, you know, like if
you think about like his era, there was nobody who
you could be like, like you could box him in
with right right, right, and it's so crazy. One of
one you hear certain people that got the influence. Like
I was in the studio and one take Jay and
I was just and I was listening to him. I'm
like I was telling the hummies. I'm like, damn me,
(05:29):
and won't take Jay rapped the same way, Like we
just do it different, but we both took his cadences.
Like when I was really listening to like a song,
I was like, damn, he raps the same way I would,
because what it is is it's a swing. So we're
not rapping directly on the one, you know, you might
be slightly before it or slightly talking to Free about that.
It's like certain people you hear that, so they might
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say you sound off beat, but it's not really you know,
off beat, And that's like why blast beats are so smooth,
because the drums are hitting different. So if you wouldnad
your head like this to a certain song, now you
this way, because it's just a slightly different brood. So
I'll do that with the raps, but no like sugar
free shit man. I met him a couple of years ago.
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I had popped up at this at this spot he
was performing at We'll go my way backstage or whatever,
you know, introduced myself and was just letting him know
what he meant to me. I got cool with one
of one of his artists, pomon the Dirt. Shout out
Pomona Dirt, but we stayed kind of tapped in on
the ground, so they were doing something else. I popped
up there. Pomona Dirt took me to the little backstage
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area so I got to you know, chop it with
Fred again. But that was like twenty eighteen. I hadn't
physically seen him since, so it was crazy because when
he got to the studio, like you know, I got
these dark ass shades all right, right right, I had
these shits on in the booth and I was recording
with my eyes closed. I look up and this motherfuckers
then walked into the booth and I'm like, oh shit,
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you know, nobody even told me. You know that he
was like there at the time. So I come out
there and he was like, man, I've been looking for you.
I've been looking for you for like two three years.
Like god damn, Like I would never think that, right,
you know. So he remembered you for meeting the backstage,
but he was like, I want to sign you. He's like,
I've been looking for you. That motherfucker telling me I've
been looking for you in the daytime with a flash,
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like man, my lions. I you know what's crazy about
sugar Free is he's one of the only rappers who
when I met him, it was the exact like as
a kid if he told me I'd meet Sugar Food
one day, exactly what he was in Las Vegas at
the Planet Hollywood Miracle Mile Mall walking through the mall
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with two females on leashes and he was performing that night.
It was like old school West Coast show was like
ice Cube, Snoop Too Short, like Sugar Free. He was
walking through the mall. He had two girls on leashes, bro,
And I was like, this is amazing, right, this is
exactly what I what I had hoped for when meeting
Sugar Free, Like, how about this is a yeah? Fuck
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keep it suited and booted. I said, this is this
is incredible. I asked this sneak man, I said, I said,
I said, man, while you was like pimping, like full
fledged pimping, man, Like, how did you like like lock
in so heavy on your craft man and keep your
wrapsight because you stopped he stopped pimping after the first
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album and all that ship, you know what I'm saying.
So he looked at me, bro, like I got to say,
if I didn't have shave his own, bro, I would
have folded. I'm talking about. He looked at me so cold,
like he was looking through me, right John and my lion. Bro.
That motherfucker he said, just like this, you know how
to walking to you bubba gum. At the same time,
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I laughed like that right, He didn't say nothing. He
just kept looking at me. All right then all right
then I was like, oh shit, this motherfucker is for real. Damn.
He wasn't playing bro. He like he's stared through me.
And he said that it's so funny because I like,
I'll be in the car, like with my wife and
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I'll be listening to sugar Free sometimes and she'll be
it so like, what the fuck are you listening? What
is this guy saying? Like it's crazy because like it's unfortunate,
like like sugar Free couldn't exist in twenty twenty one.
He gets fucking canceled. Man, Man, they'd be like, what
by my ex she knew, like she got in my
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car she heard the sugar Free I'm not fucking with you.
I used to cut that shit on. Let her know,
like I'm not. That's great. That's how you put somebody
under conviction. You cut that free on. Man, you throw
that sugar Free on. Like, listen, listen, man, listen better
listen to these words, listen to these lyrics. Nah, y'all.
But I love sugar Free. Like I told him at
the end of the night when he was like, man,
thanks for having me, you know it. Just love appreciate you.
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And I was just saying to him, I'm like, man, dog,
I owe you, man, like taking your style. I was
able to go get a deal and provide for myself
and my family. That's incredible and that's just the Also
the fact that you're very like you pay homage to him,
because a lot of people they don't have the humility
to do such as right he said, he was like, man,
he was like, I fuck with the fact you said
it in front of you know, all your boys. I'm like, nah,
they all know. I love you, man, Like you know,
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everybody know. I ain't ashamed of that. Like I just seen.
I was talking to g Perico on Sunday and I
was telling him some things about him that I super
fuck with. And any artists that that I'm a real
fan of that I really fuck with, like like my
boy will tell you. I was in there with Dom
and I was saying, like, dog, I warn't my hats
the way I war on because of you. I'm not
one of them rappers that's too cool to give up.
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To give up. If you see somebody and you fuck
with it, you let him fuck you, let him know
that you fuck with it. Me and Mike and Me
and Mike from Mike and Keys, we was we was
talking about Supreme because I'm really into you know, superb ship.
So we was talking about it and we was like, man,
you know, the first motherfucker we were seeing in that
ship was Casey Veggie's Facts. But I'm like yeah, I
was like, bro, Casey was one of the the first
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young fly dudes. Like yeah, people, people don't give you know,
Casey enough credit when it comes to like what him
and and what were doing like twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen
and just that whole movement when it came to like
the fashion and like right, you know. So we was
talking about that shit and then Casey pop up at
the spot where was at. So I was telling I
was like, nah, yeah, I remember, you know, because I
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started quoting these lyrics to him from this this shit.
He had caught the Pennies back in the day. So
I rapped it to him. He's he laughing rapping it
with me and shit, and I was like, yeah, I
remember the video. You had them brown and purple the
Supreme Timberling joints. So it was like damn, like I
for sure did. I'm like yeah, but like I'm I
know I could rap, bro, Like you know what I'm saying, Like,
I know I could rap. I know what I'm gonna be.
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I know where I'm going, I know where I'm headed,
but I don't I don't feel no way letting the
motherfucking know like hey, nah, I fuck with you or
at this specific time, there's certain shit you did inspire
me be cause I mean, like that's important, man, because
at the end of the day, like I'm confident in myself,
nobody is. Nobody got to where they are in whatever
field you're doing. And when it comes to art, you
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know what I'm saying. Without without having people who inspire
then right and to act otherwise, it's crazy. Right. Yeah,
don't get me wrong. We get on the court, you
know what I mean, I'm still going of course, Yeah,
but you gotta give it. Like it's like bro like
of course, like even like me, like you know, the
first time I'm at Big Boy or you know, it's
like yo, like you're I grew up like listening to you.
(12:18):
You know what I'm saying, Like this is like crazy
that I know you now. I still yeah, but it's
like dude, like you're a fucking legend, Like thank you
for everything you've done for industry. Yeah, Like I'm here
because you know, like you know what I mean like
so I always try to do that, especially with like,
you know, certain radio dudes like who you know. You know,
(12:41):
I kind of came up doing like an underground hip
hop specialty show, right, but that came from Friday Night Flavors,
which was on a Powerwan six with mister Chalk and
those guys and uh you know that they kind of
and and when I met Sway, I was like, dude,
like I used to buy the Swaying King Tech Freestyle
CDs and like you guys are like what I wanted
(13:02):
to be. I wanted to just play underground rap music.
But about that is when you give somebody their flowers
like that a lot of time, it's some game that
come back with it, for sure, Like you learned a lot. Yeah,
like Sway, Bro. Sway was like, you know, as a
kid man, you know, I listened to the wake Up
Show every weekend, and you know, to have a relationship
with him, it's crazy, you know what I mean, be like, damn,
(13:23):
I know Sway right, And then he gave it up
to me, brought me in head on his show and
was like we're the gatekeepers of the West. I was like, Damn,
this is crazy. Someone should pinch me right now? But
I saw that video and I figured I said that
in the rap. I'm sending that to sugar Free, like
should a dream somebody pinched me? Yep. I had to
put that in the verse because I really, you know, like, damn, nah, man,
(13:45):
that's big because I know you. You know, it's evident,
like how big of influence is on you? And then
you and I talked, you know, four or five months ago,
pulled up on me and I was like, yeah, man,
that's a big deal. That was dope. You got to
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and Blast, you got a new record out. But like
you guys are very much rooted in this game together.
You know a lot of people who are just getting
up on Blast don't realize he's kind of like he's
(15:07):
not new. He's been a factor in the scene as
far as being a producer, engineer. I mean, he can
do it all. You know. He's kind of like LA's Russ,
but you know Russ always brags it. He mixes the
masters and records himself and makes the beat. I'm like, yo,
Blast is all that shit. I was saying, More like
he like a liked a new quick for sure, Nah
for sure, But like you guys got got it out
(15:29):
the mud together, and you had told me some stories
about like some early stuff with you and Blast. Will
kind of give me a background on how you guys
met and you guys just kind of come up. Has
been kind of synonymous, you know what I'm saying. I
met Blast. I went to school with his nephews, So,
like I was at school rapping and shit like that.
So I guess it was going on. Yeahs just do
it at the school, cash or whatever. So we were
(15:51):
working with some of the We were around some of
the same people early because his nephews were rapping and
it was this producer and Carson name named Joseph. He
went by stunning Bee. But I know Blast was like
recording shit at stunning Bee crib right. But like it
was like Christmas break of like two thousand eight, damn,
Like we had linked up at everybody had went up
(16:14):
to Calstate Domingus again from Carson, So everybody went to
cal State Dimingas was like having this football game and
Blast came up there with his nephews. That was my
first time. Oh wait, yeah I met Blash. Oh right,
that's a long time ago, man, Yeah, it's thirteen years ago. Yeah,
so at what point in time did you guys start
to have like a creative relationship where you guys started
(16:35):
to make music together. So we did a song back then.
I think I did my first song with Blast when
I was like sixteen. He had this, He sent me
this record. It was called Gohart. This was the first
the first song I ever deal with Blast was called Gohart.
So he sent it to me and I recorded it
at home and I sent it to him and he
(16:55):
was like, Yo, can you send me like the wayfil
I'm like, what the fuck is this? Nick? You know?
I found out later like the first person that put
him on like mixing and shit was Chris O'Bannon. O'Bannon
was around back then too, But yeah, so yeah, we
did that record back then. I don't even know if
that ship ever came out, But what ends up happening,
(17:20):
I want to say. I always just was seeing them around,
like going to different ship, like leaving parties and coming
to the Dennis and Carson and seeing him in the
Homie PJ there and just going out to spots and
running into him. And then I had did the La Cipher,
which was breezy in the street ship and Blast was
doing all the beats for it, et cetera. So I
(17:42):
went up there and I did it, and I won,
and so like one of the prize was like you
do a session with Blast and Blast does the beat
or whatever something like that. So I had pulled up
and I recorded with him. But at the time, I
was recording with this dude named Kytel, which is Reasons engineer.
(18:02):
So I had a session. But the day I had
the session with Kytel, he told me his studio burned
down Jesus. So I asked Blast, because I come and
record the record with him. I was doing a verse
for my homeboy from my neighborhood castone. So I pulled
up over there, I did the record with Blast, and
I just started recording with Blast on the regular after that.
(18:23):
So this was I want to say, twenty sixteen maybe,
So you guys are kind of reconnected around like we
were seeing each other like all right, created each other creatively,
you guys stride around. We started we started back like
being around each other like on the regular, like twenty sixteen.
(18:44):
So I was over there like we was in the
studio with each other every day, just moving around and
then yeah shit, Blast was I think when I trying
to think, I did a Yeah, we did a song.
We did a song called a called signing Off. I
(19:06):
remember I sent the record to Blast and I was
out to eat and I was like out of garden
and I got the verse back I heard. I went
in the car. I mean, I went to the bathroom.
I'm listening to the play, like, oh shit, this like
he was a rap verse Like Blast, I rapped on
a song, but not only did he rap on it.
I was making my own beats at the time. In Blast,
I did additional production on the record. I was like,
(19:26):
oh shit, like that added something to it. So there
and other records I was doing, I was sending Blast
to you know here what you got for this one?
Right right right? So it just became like a that's
fire man, but yeah, Blast, my boy. A lot of
people like I got. I was telling you off the camera,
like I got a d M. When Priority dropped. Motherfucker
asked me like, how about you pay for the future? Man?
(19:47):
How did you get a Blast future and how much
did you pay for it? And I was just like, damn,
like that's crazy. You know, I'd be having to remember though,
Blast is bro in life right now, you know what
I'm saying. So a lot of people that don't, that
don't know the history, they they'll never know, Like Okay,
well shit like this is actually my boy, Like we
didn't actually did each things for each other, et cetera.
(20:08):
You know what I'm saying. But now you're a fucking blast.
That's like one of my my friends. It's not really
like a rap right now. It's it's a friendship for sure.
I know broke parents, Like he met mine right right,
that's wild man. You know he's scorching right now. How
this nigga in LA? For sure, I would say on
the West Coast, I'll give him that too, you know
what I'm saying, Like I mean, I mean he's definitely
(20:31):
in that conversation. Uh yeah, for sure. You've met like
you always are like taking photos with like legends, so
like you'll be in the studio with like Snoop or Dre,
you know, like like, uh, talk to me about like
meeting Dre and you know obviously you know that has
gotta be uh. I mean there's I've never met Draft,
(20:54):
never met Hove. I can imagine like meeting either one
of those two guys would be just like, yeah, I
never met Ja, but those are the two guys I
always thinking, like, man if because I met Kanye when
I was like sixteen, but never mad. Yeah, Dre or
Hove would be crazy. But like you actually been in
the studio with Dre more than once. I've been to
doctor Dre's house. You've been to his house, into his house.
(21:15):
We just got a thousand pair of white air Force one.
But like I went on a tour in doctor Dre house.
He like showing you like long ass swimming pool, like
his gym, like he hitting the speed bag and shit,
and I heard his studios and saying in his house
yeah yeah, yeah that was crazy. So my first time pulled,
(21:35):
I went to the UH to the studio in his crib.
So when I posted pictures in the studio with Dre,
I was I was at his house. That's fire. So
how was like? How was that man like and crazy?
What was the conversations like with Dre? Did you play
in many music? Yeah? I did. I played the music.
I definitely did, but shit, man, the conversation was super
(21:56):
crazy because I'm like, man, I got my daughter was
on the way and I getting dad advice from Doctor
Dre and ship like that, and that shit was just
like damn, that's big no wow, but another pinch me moment.
Well yeah not yeah, I played on music. But it's
crazy because like when we got in there, like he
was in there with d OC, like Fred rec was there,
(22:17):
like it was like some real his team. There was
some real shit going on. So Fuzzy was like, you know,
you want to want to play some records and he
was like yeah. He kept saying like the mic is
hot because they was they was writing, so he was
saying like basically, he wasn't about to let me press
play until you know, we did something. I want to
(22:37):
see what he could do. He just kept saying that.
So I watched him. He went up to the boot.
I mean, he went up to the mic and he
was laying just like melody I guess you would say, right,
So he was he was mumbling and there was like
halfway words there. So what I did was like Fuzzy
kept saying like you're ready, You're ready. So I sat
(22:59):
in the back and I put words to the mumbles.
So I went up to when I when I finally
walked up to the mic, it was it was like
eight bars because I had filled in every other thing
he did, so it was it was like instant respect.
That's fire. And also the fact that like no one's
(23:22):
ever gonna hear what you did because because because we
been waiting for the Detoks since I was I wasn't
old enough to drink. It's crazy though, because certain things
carry over, because that was the day where I found
out not to timestamp music because I was he was saying,
I took the mumbles and I put words to him right,
(23:42):
and it's so crazy. If Fuzzy with here, he would
tell you I set a line and he reacted to
it while I was recording, and that's what stopped me
from recording. So the last line, I was fitting his
mumbles and I said, back up off me, bitch, social
distance and he was like, oh, ship like because he's
looking at me like I'm coming off there off the
top of the head. But he was like, man, that's
shit hard. We got to change it though, because it's
(24:05):
gonna make it time related to this era. Yeah, So
that's some real ship though. When I learned that, and
you never know like that at the end of the day,
you know, with dre we just never know what's gonna happen.
Like one day we might wake up and we actually
might have a doctor, Dre. I mean we I didn't
expect the Compton album to come out. Now, Yeah I heard,
I heard some ship. I'm like, he's definitely no. I mean,
(24:25):
I know he's always working, but it made me like
feel like I wasn't doing enough. Yeah. Bro, he's accomplished everything,
and I'm like, damn, he got all these records, just
really in here, just going crazy. So I went that night.
I went that night, and then we doubled back and
came back again. And it was dope because I we went.
It was like, uh, Lakers in Miami and watching the game,
(24:47):
Oh the finals, right, So Kovo was there Anderson Pack
was there. So I ended up. Uh they were they
were working on the record and I got to right
on another record with them. Also, that's huge here in
the circle. That's been man doing the same ship. So
so Dre was cool though. That looked cool. It Bro
trimmed me out. I'm telling the hummies, I'm like, man,
because none of my homeboys call me Jason. Like, if
(25:10):
the honey call me Jason, you're trying to be funny
or like you knew me like on some other ship,
but like everybody cost me cash. I don't like it's
weird because if you know me as Jason and call
me Jason, if you know me as Cash and call
me that. But yeah, he was like, what you think
about that, Jason? I ain't about to tell that straight up?
Oh ship, he calling me Jason, that's crazy, that's so crazy.
(25:33):
And then Snoop is just man, Bro, Snoop is uh.
I've I've hung out with Snoop and smoke with him
once and he was like the nicest dude. He was
just the whole vibe he was. He was in his
green room playing like oldies on his like DJ controller,
getting high, getting his hair done. It was like it
was like another guy who I met, and I was like,
(25:54):
this is this is about what I expected from Snoop
is amazing. Yeah, Man, he just Snoopy super super Yeah.
I just like forget just how listen Snoop Dogg really
like deal he is like the way he acts. Snoop
changed my life. Man. Doggy Style was the first rap
album that I really like fell in love with. I
was five years old, Bro, and my grandma remember back
(26:16):
in the day in the magazines used to be able
to get like ten ten seeds like the dollar. So
she got a Doggy Style on tape by accident, and
it was my grandma's old as fuck, so it was
like a cartoon on the cover. So she gave it
to me. I fucking bro I had that like literally,
I like like knew that whole album like front to
back in kindergarten year and then my mom heard me
(26:38):
listening to it and she took it and hit it,
and then I found it. My favorite Snoop song is
definitely on that album. Which song is it? Oh? Yeah,
it's fucking amazing. Yeah. I actually think Doggy Style is
a top three or four album of all time, and
I think it's it's my personal favorite album to ever
come out of the West Coast. It's my number one.
I mean, obviously, you know there's other ones in that conversation,
(27:00):
but for me, it's it's the all your style, man.
That's that's definitely up there. I put dog Your Style
over everything ever. Come. I'm not I'm not mad at that.
Ye're just for me for me, you know, Yeah, I
mean that's I always I always like to leave with
the for me, Like, I Uh, when I sat down
with Big Boy, I was talking about Kendrick, I'm like
my goat. He was like, why you call him yo go?
(27:21):
I said, because can't nobody tell me it's not my
go He's your goat? And like, for the record, even me,
like I always I have Kendrick in my top five
and people always give me ship and I'm like, yo, man, Like,
if you could put Biggie in your top five off
a two albums, right, he put out two albums, right
and then he passed away. If you could put him
in your top five off of two fucking albums Kendrick has.
(27:42):
If we're and I'm not even counting section eighty, Kendrick
Amari p overly dedicated, I'm not talking about none of that.
If we're just talking about just the albums, just the
I mean, come on, man, let's and even take untitled
the out of the discussion. We're talking those three albums.
Come on, man, it's three for three. He's working on
(28:04):
one of the best discography's ever right now. And the
section eighty is a classic in my opinion. Sure yeah,
Kendrick stopblem Kendrick Lamar E. P O. D. Like over
the dedicated pussy in Petron. Come on, man, man, have
souls on that thing. Man, Carson in the house, shout
out to Apps, So shout out to Carson. What I
mean obviously, you know coming out of Carson like Appsoles like, uh,
(28:25):
you know, Ashole rass cast. Shout out to Bishop Lamont, man,
Bishop Lamont had some ship Brandy Ray j reason yeah,
and cash chasing, I mean ship a hell of a
a hell of a boy meach play pocket all eves
on me. You know, Oh ship fire ship Carson. That's
that's yeah. Man. Shout out to Carson, like how how
(28:46):
I mean obviously, like Carson is kind of probably one
of the more like lesser known LA areas, you know
when it comes to just like nationwide and when out
all the time. Yeah, I think it's important man, because
I go out of town, they like, where are you from?
Like I'm saying from LA but I'm from La County.
I'm not from the city of Los Angeles. You're from
the city of Carson. From the city of Carson. And
then when I stayd from Carson, I gotta say, yeah,
(29:06):
it's between Compton and Long Beach. Is like nah, I
want to get to a point where motherfucker be like,
where you from from Carson? Oh yeah, okay, I mean
that's what Snoop did when he came in. Nobody knows
about Long Beach. People tell me about that. Ye. People
would just be like, yeah, from LA, that's from Long
Beach and you knew it, right, That's all my first single.
All I know. I said, you got to crrack the
door like Uncle Snoop did, put your whole city on.
(29:28):
That's the blueprint. Snoop came through the east side, is
you know what I mean? The Twins. It was just
even just like just he would always it would always,
you would always just hear Long Beach from the chronic
like all the way to you know, like you said,
the east side of shit. But even like chronics all
you say, you knew where the fuck he was from, right,
And even the video the videos, nah, for sure, even
(29:50):
though some La shit. It's like everybody didn't pass through
Carson like you probably Yo, you gotta untie, your grandma,
somebody that lived in Carson. You went to the champagne
parties there and then it's like it TD Studios in Carson,
you know, like that's where that ship jumped off, which
is crazy. When I when I played I had I
had a record called Carson in the House, I played
(30:11):
it for Doctor Dre and he was just like, yo,
I lived in Carson for a year. He was like,
and my mom had a store in the Carson mall
like that. He stopped me halfway through the song to
tell me that. And I was talking to Snooper about it,
and he was like, you know, back in the day,
like you know, used to tell a girl that you
from Carson because it's like they known for having a
nice houses and shit like that. It's like their family
(30:31):
look at you like okay, he cool. No, but a
lot of people didn't pass through Carson and have some
type of you know, connection to it. And even like
with Compton being so big, it's like, bro, we only
separated by the ninety one freeway. Like that's literally we cousins.
Shout out to all the Simons too, from Carson. Yeah, yeah,
you know what I'm saying from Carson. Yeah, but y'all
(30:53):
tried to oh, forgive me charged my mind, not my heart. Yeah,
but y'all tried Carson inflections as well. Man, how did
you getting shot change your life? Realize this shit is real,
because that's shit could be over, Like yeah, man, because
you know I've been I mean, I've never been shot,
but I got into a really bad accident, and it
(31:15):
was very like just to know, like, oh yeah, because
it's not so much to getting shot is just face
some mortality like period, right, just knowing you could be
up out of here. It just it just changes the
way that you look at life because you go to
sleep thinking Tomorrow's promise. You always think that you think, yeah,
we grow up a certain way where it's like, yeah,
we're so like you know what I mean. I think
we grew up in an era where it's like, you know,
(31:38):
we got good medicine, we had to deal with Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. But for the most part,
it's like, you know, this shit could really be over
and there's nothing you can do about it. Did it
make you like move any differently? Did it make you
just to change anything that you did as far as
just like I mean, yeah, naturally, But I always say,
like for me, like getting shot, I was in the
(32:00):
wrong place at the wrong time, So I probably would
feel about it different if it was somebody actually looking
for Jason or somebody like they weren't like teaking you out. Yeah,
Like if it was that, then you know what I mean,
I probably move even way more different. But it's just
like that's just some la shit, Like you might just
get caught like a bad place at a bad time,
(32:21):
wrong place, wrong time, and it could just be up
like that. But nah, definitely definitely become a lot more cautious,
mindful of you know what I mean, like where you're
at or who knows where you're at, or just how
you move, especially now you know you get the new
baby and you know things that you got a lot
more to live for man, right, and then you know
(32:43):
everybody ain't happy for you. Most people aren't happy for
you that are from where you're from. Like I feel like,
you know, most of the people who hate my guts
are because like they didn't make it out of where
I'm from. Like you know what I'm saying, Like my
biggest haters in the world are in my hometown. Yeah,
of course, I feel like, you know, obviously you're gonna
have people happy for you, but like your biggest haters
(33:03):
usually are from your hometown. I get a lot of
love at home. I mean, that's important, But I just mean,
like in general, like you know, like there's probably like
five or six people who are so envious of your success.
The scary part about that is the people that feel
that way, like you never know it, You'll never know.
You might see them and they hug you and they
tell you how much they fuck with you, so you
(33:24):
you would never know it. So I always, you know, like,
I ain't funny style, so I you know, it's I'm cool,
but I kind of try to stick to just, you know,
my comfort because I don't even want to put myself
in a position where I have to find out how
somebody really feel about me. That's some real shit. Man.
I gotta get home. I know you got some new
(33:46):
music coming out with Buddy soon. Is there gonna be
a mixtape album? Are we just putting out songs right now?
We drop heating it up? Dropping singles, heating it up?
Getting ready? You know, I gotta finalize this EP, figure
this track lists out with something. Well, you know, I
heard a record that you and Simba have called west
Side Griselda that was supposed to be on his album
(34:06):
and it didn't end up on his album because sample issues,
right that song ever gonna come out. I don't know. Yeah,
that would have been nice to that shit was fire,
I don't know. I got another record with Simber though, yeah,
the West Side Griselda. Those crazy You ain't hurt this
other one though. I was for you all right man?
But now yeah, what's Si Grizelta? Was? I mean, is crazy?
(34:28):
I got my deal off West Side Griselda. Well there
it is. Yeah, Well look man, the show we did
that record when it got mixed, I mean when Dallas
just first heard it, or even just my production company,
Start Island. I think when Donnie heard it was just
like what the fuck is this? I remember Fuzzy hearing
it is just the reaction everywhere. Matter of fact, I
(34:50):
played that's the first So I played a record for doctors, right,
the first one, right, the first song I played I
keep it on Hunted. Like the reaction was like it
was cool right and you know too, yeah it was.
It was like it wasn't like oh I don't funk
with this or I super fuck with it, but it
was like that's cool. Yeah, he wasn't just like overly impressed.
I played West Side Griselda. I get through my verse.
(35:14):
The motherfucker go start that ship over, walks up to
the to the board, cuts up everything, like cuts up everything.
He got them big speakers. Oh my god, I heard
his speakers. Are fucking crazy there, dog like, I'm playing
this ship again. I'm going I'm going through it. He's
standing behind me, going going up l a going like this.
(35:37):
He's like, yeah, Cash, fuck with this ship. That's so crazy.
That was west Side. Griselda played that ship. Put the
fucking song out, man, what's the point of Atlantic? Can
we get some samples clear for sake Jesus. Anyway, look, man,
be on the lookout. Go support the record you got.
You got two songs out priority with Blast. Yeah, all
I know is out as well. Yeah, so go run
(35:58):
them up. You to Spotify and new music is coming
as well. Yeah, man, I'm on your ass man, Jason Cash,
Yeah yeah, Carson Boom
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