September 12, 2024 • 47 mins
Trump supporters are the best. Yes, Kamala DID say this. TX Rep. Chip Roy with the "B" in EBC. 80’s and 90’s nostalgia.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in now. We hope all of you are having
a fantastic Thursday, wherever you may be across this great country.
We got three hours of fun coming your way. No
matter what is going on in the world at large,
We're going to make you have hopefully a pretty good
time and make you a little bit smarter than you
otherwise would have been. About all of the issues of
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the day. We'll talk about the continued fallout of the
Tuesday Night debate, to the extent that there is any there.
We will talk with our friend Chip Roy, congressman from
Texas about the situation on the border. We will give
you the latest from the numbers and what we are
seeing in all of the markets out there, both poll
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and gambling markets, as well as the data behind them.
But we began buck, I want to kind of talk
about the way that Trump supporters are talked about on MSNBC.
MSNBC in particular, although it also happens on CNN and
certainly is embedded in much of the reporting that goes
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on in the New York Times and in Washington Post,
is a level of personal attack that virtually never happens
when it comes to the reverse and when it does happen,
they turn it into a multi day storyline. I'm thinking
about Jade Vance joking with Tucker Carlson a couple of
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years ago that a lot of Democrats were childless catwomen
and they grabbed their faint they grabbed their pearls and
fall on the fainting couch, And oh my goodness. What
about the rhetoric and what they say about us and
all of those things. There's very little actually negative said
about Kamala Harris voters in general. Trump supporters, on the
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other hand, are attacked violently, nastily all the time. And
I was thinking about that this week sum and then
this clip surfaced from our friend Joy Reid, who frankly
may have the dumbest show of all of the shows
that air on MSNBC, because I regularly see clips from
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her show and just think there's no way someone with
a functional IQ could be putting on this kind of
program consistently. So there are lots of dumb people at
MSNBC on air. There are also people who are willingly lying,
Like I don't think Rachel Maddow is dumb. I think
she just is a propagandist. But the attacks on Trump
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supporters in particular are pretty crazy to see, and there
are no functional equivalents to this. I feel quite confident
on Fox News. But here is the Nation's Elie Mustelle
telling Joy Reid. Trump supporters are despicable. Listen to cut three.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Everything he does is despicable.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
The reason why it doesn't and his career is because
his supporters aren't just as despicable, all right, Like Trump's
whole thing.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
He's a narcissist, right, and so.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
His whole thing is to have a complete lack of
compassion and empathy for everybody else.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
It's all about him. That's why he lies about.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Nine to eleven.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
It's all about him. Me, me, me.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
He's probably the least compassionate president we've had in two
hundred years since Andrew Jackson. And it works for him
because his supporters are just as ungenerous and have just
as little compassion and empathy for others. And that's why
it never hurts Trump when he takes these crass and
classless actions, is because his supporters think that being crass
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and classless is actually kind of cool.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I have met thousands and thousands of Trump supporters over
my life. Buck many of them are listening to us
right now. They are some of the kindest, most patriotic,
most loving of America people that I have ever seen.
I will tell you a little bit of an anecdote.
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There were dueling rallies in Aspen, Colorado. You might remember
a couple of weeks ago. I was out in Aspen
twentieth anniversary wedding anniversary as out there with my wife
and Trump came to do a fundraiser, and there were
that day in downtown Aspen dueling rallies. And a woman
wrote into the local Aspen newspaper and said she was
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an undecided voter, but she went to go visit both rallies,
and I do think this would be emblematic very often
of what you would see.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
She said.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
The Trump people were incredibly welcoming to her, wanted to
tell her how much they loved America and how much
they were fans of Trump, whereas the Kamala supporters, by
and large, to the extent that those people even exist,
just wanted to tell you how much they hated the
Trump people. I think that's reflected actually in the country.
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The Trump supporters that I have met are some of
the greatest patriots and some of the nicest people out there,
whereas it seems to me the Kamala people and before them,
the in people by and large have just decided they
hate the Trump people. They don't really like their side
as much as they hate the other. Does that reflect
some of what you've seen as well?
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Well?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Of course, also it is right in line with the
truth of the modern Democrat party, which is that it
is a religion, and it's not a religion based around
one person. To be a Democrat a liberal, although that's
a very poor word choice really for what they are.
They're really authoritarian collectivists. They're not in any meaningful way
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liberal about anything. They don't believe in liberty on an
individual basis. Therefore, I think the term liberal for them
is really incorrect. Leftists, Marxists, communist, whatever you want to
call them. Democrats have replaced so much of what we
think of as I don't know if you want to say,
different aspects of your personality, but different aspects of life
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with it's all about being a Democrat. You're a Democrat
and everything. You're a Democrat. When you're watching a sports game,
you're you know, a Democrat. At the grocery store and
they wear this on their sleeve. And I think it's
because it is giving a lot of people. I mean,
if we're getting into the a little bit of Freudian
analysis maybe here of the Democrat Party today, it gives
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people purpose who otherwise feel like they lack purpose or
they have an insecurity about what their contribution is, what
their abilities are in a society that is based on
individual stuff instead of just whatever the group affiliation may be.
So yeah, I think there's a lot of unhappy people
who are Democrats. I mean, this is you're talking about
generalizations that affect hundreds of millions of people. So there's
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clearly a lot of you know, I know, happy Democrats.
I'm not saying that, but as a movement, yeah, I
think there's a bitterness about the Democrat Party. You know Trump,
they always try to do this thing. And I didn't
get to see Morning Joe this morning, which was a shame,
but whenever I do watch it, one of the most
common themes you come across Clay is Trump hates this country,
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says it's going to hell and all this stuff. Well,
what Trump is saying is that he thinks the current
leadership is running this country into the ground the wrong direction,
but he actually loves America on the merits and thinks
it's a very special place. I think the Democrats, if
you're looking at the ideology of their movement, I think
that they view America as a deeply flawed, deeply racist,
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deeply unfair, rooted in the patriarchy, rooted in oppression. And
these are all negatives, These are all archetypes of a
negative belief. But also what they say on MSNBC. I
don't usually spend too much time on it. The people
on MSNBC are generally not very bright. Just the truth,
they're just definitely not very smart. They are smarter, much
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smarter CNN anchors, for example, who just dance to the
required tune on TV. But in MSNBC, they have some
straight up dumbasses. I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
I do think, though the it would be such a
great story if we had a true First of all,
we have almost no one who's truly independent media. But
I think if you went to Kamala rallies and you
went to Trump rallies and you just assessed the overall
friendliness of people there, I think what you would find
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is that the Trump people are some of the friendliest
on the planet, and it's not That's why to me,
attacking the Trump supporter is particularly pernicious. Look, we understand
that in this political realm we live in, where it's
fifty four days till the election, they are going to
be nasty things said about Trump. There's gonna be nasty
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things said about Kamala And if you think that's unique,
if you're a history nerd like I am, one of
the most ridiculous and fun things to do is go
back and read what was said about Abraham Lincoln, go
back and read what was said about George Washington. I mean,
these guys were attacked in print on a level that
I think would stat people today because we tend to
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think of them as marble men who did no wrong
and had no opposition in their era. Buck they were savaged.
Andrew Jackson was savaged back in the day. They even
took a shot at Andrew Jackson during that clip and said,
you know, the he's an awful guy. But it is
kind of crazy to think that what exactly was going
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on historically probably was worse than what's going on now.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yeah, some of the founding fathers shot each other, Yes,
you know, and there were other times where they came
pretty close to dueling, and you know, Monroe had to
step in at one point and prevent Aaron Burr from
getting involved in a different duel. This is Look, politics
is a rough business. You're talking about power, and you're
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talking about things that really affect human beings in ways
that are very real, and so passions are going to
run high. We're heading into an election cycle right now
where people are feeling a little bit more of the
heat than they have since the last election at this time,
and so there's gonna be this sense of exaggeration.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
But I will tell you.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
The the going after the other side supporters. I mean,
this is why I just said, MSNBC is just sort
of dumb to suggest that Trump supporters they don't actually
know what Trump supporters think. Never mind how Trump supporters are.
They don't they don't have friends really who are Trump
supporters in these left wing circles. They honestly are completely
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cloistered from the reality of why people Why are people
attracted to Trump. It's not actually because he's mean, you know,
it's it's not actually because of his narcissism or whatever
that guy was saying the American people, a lot of
them have very real concerns that stem from poor governance,
particularly from what feels like a uniparty elite that doesn't
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care as the middle class continuously just gets squeezed by
policies that involve trillions of dollars of spending, that punish
savers at the and benefit asset holders and UH and
that open the borders wide, and that allow us to
suffer from more criminality than we should because of concerns
over social justice. And these are all very real things.
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And they're running an absolute clown to be presidents of
the United States right now, and they had a dementia
pat clown before that, and they're gonna they're gonna lecture
us on who should be in charge. I mean, this
is if they were putting forward serious people who were
really bright and really on it and had a real
vision play, I would say that's that's maybe I disagree
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with them. These are unseerious people, but unfortunately they can
do very serious damage to the country.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Not only unserious, lying on a level that we've never
seen a presidential candidate live before. I'm talking about what
they believe in, not whether they get a few facts
wrong or misspeak or things like that. We're gonna play
for you some audio during the course of this program.
We have never had a candidate run for political office
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who is on record as a political candidate espousing the
opposite opinion, not something that's a subtle variation the opposite
opinion like we have with Kamala Harris. I mean, it
truly is staggering. And this is why she's not actually
doing any media because even reporters are embarrassed by how
much she has changed her opinions.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Imagine if Donald Trump had come forward in just the
last month or so and said, I'm all about an
open border. I want more illegals. The more legals, the better.
I want more abortion, abortion everywhere, paid for by the taxpayer.
I want higher taxes on everybody, less business growth. I mean,
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everybody would say, what the heck is going on here?
That is what Kamala has done, just from the other side,
and we're supposed to accept this.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
And remember Bernie spoke the truth here where when he said,
and I think this is so important. We played this
clip earlier this week. Oh, she doesn't believe any of this.
She's just saying it because she needs to get collected.
Of course, he said the quiet part out loud, and
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Speaker 4 (14:26):
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Speaker 2 (14:38):
Welcome back in to Clay and Buck. I want to
get to some of your calls coming up here this
hour on Now that we've had everything settle in a
little bit with the debate situation.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
How are you feeling. I'm feeling good.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I gotta tell you the Buckster is feeling good about
how the Trumpster is gonna do. I still I'm confident,
not over confident, but I think with continued focus, he's going.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
To get it done. This time.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I wanted to point something out here and Clay and
I are going to dive into this. Some of the
fact checks that happened. You know, there's this back and forth.
Why wasn't we know why Kamala wasn't fact checked. Okay,
we have to point it out, but we all know why.
But on the issue of whether she wants trans taxpayer
funded trends surgeries for both illegals and for prison inmates.
(15:30):
Instead of just telling you what her position is, well
let her tell you. This was Kamala Harris back in
twenty nineteen on the issue of trans surgeries for inmates.
Listen to this moderate who wants to build a wall. Now,
she says, Kamala Harris, play it.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
They were standing in the way of surgery for prisoners,
and there was a specific case. And when I learned
about the case, I work behind the scenes to not
only make sure that that transgender woman got she was deserving.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
So it was not only about that case.
Speaker 7 (16:04):
I made sure that they changed the policy in the
state of California so that every transgender the inmate in
the prison system would have access to the medical care
that they desire to need. And I believe it was
not only I know it was historic in California, but
I believe actually it may have been one of the
first if not the first in the country where I
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pushed for that policy in a department of corrections.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
A pioneer in the realm clay of taxpayer funded trans
surgery for inmates. Oh, by the way, I assure you,
she thinks that a man who has a trans surgery
to become a woman should be in a woman's prison.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Well, which is absolutely insane. She also believes that transgender
surgery should be provided for immigrants in migrant shelters, meaning
in both cases, your taxpayer dollars should go to be
changing and changing is in quotation marks can't change a gender,
but for surgery that would be designed to try to
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allow someone to pretend to be a different gender than
what they are. I mean, I lose my mind over
the way that tax dollars get spent. Now, the idea
that this would be done, These surgeries buck are insanely
expensive expensive. Yep, it's not like you're look. Inmates do
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deserve some medical treatment, right, they have to be. But
the idea that you would get elective surgery to inmates
that are paid for by taxpayers is beyond insane.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I mean, we're also going to pay for you know,
lip injections and Brazilian butt lifts and all these things
that you know, all these cosmetic surgeries too. I mean,
why not just put it on the taxpayer tab.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. We are
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joined now by Congressmanship Roy of Texas and let me
dive ahead in the all right, off the top and
then the most divisive issue in the state of Texas today,
how are you going to handle the Texas Texas A
and M rivalry returning Thanksgiving week? Will you and your
wife be able to coexist? How will your children do?
What is the prognosis there on the biggest dividing line
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in the state of Texas right now?
Speaker 5 (19:23):
Well, Clay, good to be on and great to have
Texas being not just in the mix, but right now
at the top of the heap. Although obviously we got
to say we we Texas got to get through oh
you in order to even get to Georgia. And so
we've got to finish you know, this month strong and
get to that month. So hopefully we'll get a good
one two punch. And you know, obviously, you know, Georgia's
got to get there as well. And I think, what
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do they play Alabama is this coming week with the
next week but eight yeah, okay, twenty eight, So you know,
we got, you know, A and M and Texas finally
coming back Thanksgiving weekend. That is a good thing for
college football. It's a good thing for Texas. I'm not
sure what it will mean for my family dynamics. I
got a lot the family, you know, But my wife
has been doing a pretty good job, you know, raising
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our kids. They're pretty pro A and M right now.
And Governor Perry, my old boss, and John Sharp the
chance for they've been leaning in heart of my kids.
But Texas football is the top of the heap right now.
There's no question about that. They're good. They looked really
good against Michigan. We'll see. The defense has still got
to play. Somebody stout, but yours is doing great.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Congress and Roy, you took the words right out of
my mouth, by the way, on all that football analysis,
so thank you for that. I want to switch gears
if I can, for a moment here to the situation
of the border. I assume we're going to find out
here pretty soon what the what the total illegal crossings are.
At least according to CBP for fiscal year twenty four,
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they're going to be high. The Biden administration is telling
us they're not as high. What is the status right
now of of the border day in and day out
hasn't been in the headlines much. What has changed and
what stayed the same since say the beginning of the year,
when it was just a free for all.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Yeah, important question. I actually put out a report that
people can find at Roy dot House dot God. Now
that's official. I'm not pimping anything political here. I'm just
putting out a report that it was almost forty pages
that my step put together to put all this in context,
and in it you'll find that this crisis remains very
real because even though we don't see piles of people
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up on the border, it's say Eagle Pass or Laredo
or any other place in Texas where it's in the
news every day. Bill Malusian is still reporting hard on
Fox others. What you're having is lots of people being
released into the United States. Were flown into the United States.
We still had one hundred thousand interactions apprehensions of people
coming in in both June and July. We don't have
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the August number jet but those are still astronomically high.
They're a little lower than they were at the two
hundred and one hundred and seventy five thousand levels, but
one hundred thousand a month is extraordinary. Remember Jay Johnson
under Obama said one thousand a day was a I sis, well, man,
we're now, you know, saying and like patting ourselves on
the back because we're down to one hundred thousand. That's
a problem. This administration is released five and a half
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million people into the country, two million gutaways. Those are
their official numbers. They actually cop to this. That's how
many people have been dumped into the United States that
we know of. And look, the dangers are huge. We
had a hearing of the Judiciary Committee, Dad wore yesterday.
We had this wonderful young woman. She's twenty seven, Alexis Nungray.
You've seen the story her daughter, Joscelyn, twelve years old.
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And I know, you guys, your dad's I've got a
daughter that's very similar in age to Jocelyn. And she
was you know, Alexis woke up and her daughter was gone,
and she finds out her daughter had been gagged, bound
and murdered and raped by two Venezuelans who were specifically
released under so called parole into the United States. So
to all the listeners out there. It's not just about
people walking across the Rio Grand there are thousands. Actually,
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the vast majority of these people are being released into
the United States in a system methodically under the sea
one app using our laws and bastardizing our laws to
dump people in the United States. And now you got
twenty thousand hast hanging out in Springfield, Ohio.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Chip, you're talking about the border situation. You've been in
politics a little while. Can you ever remember anybody completely
flip flopping their opinion on as many issues as Kamala
Harris has, from the border where she now favors a wall,
to evs where she no longer favors a mandate to
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fracking in Pennsylvania, which she's now in favor of. Now
she wants to have plastic straws allowed. I mean, some
very serious flipflops, some less serious, but emblematic of her
changed positions. Have we ever seen anything like this?
Speaker 5 (23:49):
Well, I mean, look, people get called flip floppers all
the time for far less egregious flip flopping than we're
seeing out of Kamala Harris. Right, Remember, you know George H. W.
Bush potentially lost they in nineteen ninety two for the
you know, read my lips, no new taxes, and frankly
it was only kind of a half break of the pledge, right,
he cut some taxes, raised some other ones. So you know,
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we used to be very specific about that. Here we've
got She would say things like two days before the debate, like,
for example, they put out a tweet or she said
she would want to ban assault weapons. Now we can
have a debate about that policy. I'm a very strong
proponent of the Second Amendment and keeping all of it
all right, she said ban them. Then she goes to
the debate and said, I'm not talking about banning guns.
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Yes you are, you literally are. You tweeted it out
two days before. So but you had no fact check
from ABC. And look, I'm not one to like point
the finger and go, oh my god, it's all because
of ABC.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
No.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Look, you know, we all know the media is biased.
But the bottom line is she has been changing on
every one of these issues. Now why is that. Well,
obviously she wanted to give be to win the primary
and to beat the Democrat nominee, which she ran four
years ago, so she ran hard to the left. She
answered the ACO ACLU questionnaire, answered all the liberal questions. Now,
she's trying to win a general election, so you know
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what she believes. We all know who she is. It's
been very obvious from the get go, and she is
as much of a radical progressive Democrat as anyone in
that administration. So you know what you'll get in January
if she's elected.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Talking to Congressman Chip Roy and Congressman do you think
that Trump should I know that Trump's gonna do what
he's gonna do, right, we're just wondering about how you
view this from now until election day? Do you think
Trump should debate again? Do you think it makes sense
or have we had enough of it at this point?
And also do you think there is enough focus from
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his campaign on the border issue more broadly?
Speaker 5 (25:43):
Well, on the first point, I'm certainly not going to
tell the campaign what to do. I mean, you know,
that's up to them and up to the president. And
she said what, no one's gonna tellhim what to do.
I wouldn't be afraid of another debate. If I debated again,
I would be even more aggressive. I think he landed
some good punches. I think answer on for example, firing
bureaucrats was a great answer. I thought he had some
other good answers, but I do want to see him
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hitting harder on the border. I mean, she was trying
to hide behind. You know, this notion of this so
called Senate bill in January, which is just a fraud.
That bill would codify the mass release program that they
put in place. It would codify the abuse of a
parole and asylum paroles.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Actually, can I jump in really quick?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
This is important? Yeah, you talk about parole and I've
been looking into this too for how this affects the
migrant you know, invasion and what's going. Can you tell
me what does that mean that people have this CBP
one app abroad, they get some time and they're being
flown into the country for their appointments by Biden, Like,
how does this work?
Speaker 5 (26:46):
Well, I'll try to give you the simple answer. I mean,
I could pick it twenty minutes to walk it through it.
But here's the short version. Prior to this administration, we
had certain policies in our books, allowing for exceptions. They're
pretty narrow. Asylum if you have a credible fear of
persecution for your religious or political beliefs. Okay, that's one category.
Two is parole on a case by case basis. The
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statute literally says, case by case, we're supposed to make
a determination if there's a reason to parole you temporarily
into the United States for some reason. Let's say your
aunt is having a liver transplant, or somebody's got fighting
camps and you want to come in and we need
to parole you in, or some reason like that. But
what they've done is taken that little exception and they've
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now turned it into a wide program that is not
case by case, but rather it's being done across the
board to dump literally hundreds of thousands, millions of people
in the United States in violation of the law. They
actually built an app, you referred to it the CBP
one app where people put their name in and they
basically come to the border and they're like, okay, you're
parolled in. Here's your date, and you're noticed to appear
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in court in July of twenty thirty two. Literally we're
giving out dates well into the twenty thirties. Now it's
a fraud, it's a bastardization of law. And in the process,
we have zero vetting, I say, zero negligible vetting because
border patrol is strained and we don't allow them to
do their job in the first place. So now you
have what thirty five thousand Chinese nationals. You have significant
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numbers of known terrorists on the watch list. You have
criminals like the guy released in Buffalo who killed twenty
three Peruvians and we just found them in Buffalo, but
we released him into Roma, Texas and he ended up
up there, and then all of these deaths. Kayla Hamilton,
Rachel Morin, Jocelyn Nunger A right, I mean I could
go down the list.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
How often is hike? Are you about how Texas is
going to vote?
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Congressman, I feel good about Texas, but we need to
show up, like we have got to get out there.
I mean, look, the Senator cruizes race. I mean right now,
I think if you look at the polls, it's a
single digit race, you know, probably mid single digits. So
you need President Trump to do well and everybody needs
to show up. I mean, we have people moving to
Texas who share our values. We have people moving to
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Texas who do not share our values. We have people
who that have been released into the United States illegally.
We're trying to prevent non citizens from voting. Our Democratic
colleagues won't work with us on that other than five
who voted for the bill. So we've got a lot
of work to do. And as centator, as President Trump
has said, we need to win, too big to rig.
That's the only way. If you're counting votes in Maricopa
County on election night, we're in Trump. If your county
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votes in Fulton County, we're in trouble. We need to
win overwhelmingly because people are frustrated with inflation and lagging economy.
You know, our fecklessness on the world stage, leaving Afghanistan
wide open borders, people dying from fentanyl poisoning, et cetera,
et cetera.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Congressmanship, Roy, I will see you maybe down at that
Texas game against Georgia in Austin.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
Well look forward to it. Let's just hope Georgia against
you Alabama and Texas row you and we got a
big old match up in Austin, Texas.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Be a lot of fun. Talk to you soon see you.
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Speaker 5 (31:01):
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laugh it up in.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
The Klay and Buck podcast feed, on the iHeartRadio app
or wherever you get your podcasts. And I told you
I had an optimistic take on culture, Sports, music, movies.
It appears to me that there is a groundswell of
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desire which I think could be so important to the
discourse in this country for America to go back to
the era that Buck, even though he's much younger than
me and I grew up in and that many of
you out there around our ages also grew up in
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the nineteen eighties and the nineteen nineties. Many of you
out there are nostalgic in many ways for those eras,
even the early parts of the two thousands, but in
particular the eighties and the nineties, because we've had a
crazy era. Then people might have disagreed politically, but we
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didn't decide when somebody voted different than us that they
were despicable, as MSNBC has been calling Trump supporters today
or last night. We played that audio for you earlier,
and I've been arguing for a long time that really,
the I would say celebrity athlete who characterized that era
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better than anyone was Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan, to this
day is still the most popular athlete in America. On
my last book before this current one, was called Republicans
by Sneakers to crazy stat for you at the time
I wrote that book, Michael Jordan's Air Jordan Sneakers still
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sold more every year than every current NBA player combined,
Lebron Steph Curry. You roll them all up together, they
sold less than Michael Jordan's Air Jordan's were selling. I
think that's still close to true even today. Why was
that because Michael Jordan's hallmark was his excellence, and he
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wanted everyone to celebrate his excellence. White, Black, Asian, Hispanic, gay, Strait, Republican,
Democrat Independent. In fact, my book was called Republicans by
Sneakers two because that was a quote from Michael Jordan
in that era when he was asked why he didn't
get political. Then suddenly that all changed. In the Trump era,
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athletes decided they had to use their platforms, and they
had to be super partisan, and they had to come
out in favor of Hillary Clinton, they had to come
out in favor of Joe Biden. It's dying down now.
Buck In twenty twenty four and yesterday, there were three
different clips that I think tell an interesting story. First,
let's start with Patrick Mahomes, who I would argue is
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the single most famous male athlete in America today quarterback
for the Kansas City Chiefs. His wife, Brittany has suggested,
based on things she's liked, that she is a Trump supporter.
Trump has been complementary of Patrick Mahomes and Brittany. He
was asked about it at a press conference yesterday. This
is what he said for President.
Speaker 8 (34:22):
Trump, the family against the Fox News in relations to
this campaign.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
I just wonder what your reaction is to seeing that.
Speaker 8 (34:28):
Yeah, I think I've always said I don't want I
don't want my place in my platform to be used
to endorse a candidate or do whatever each Either way,
I think my place is to inform people to get
registered to vote, is to inform people to do their
own research and then make their best decision for them
and their family. And so I think that's every time
I'm on this stage and I get asked these questions,
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I'm going to refer back to that because I think
that's what makes America so great.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Pretty great answer in many ways.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
You know what's funny about this, Clay is a lot
of people hear that people like you and me and
others will listen and say, I wish pretty much every
athlete would just do this, Although than athletes look, well,
we're not allowed to have, you know, opinions on politics,
but you know I have more and Hollywood actors, you know,
famous people of all kinds. I wish they would just
(35:17):
stop with the But because he's not willing to smugly
lecture everybody on politics when we just want to celebrate
athletic greatness, people are gonna assume he's Republican.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
You know that, right, I mean this is now.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
The only people that are like, I don't want to
be annoying about my politics are Republican. If you're a
big Kamala voter, you're telling everybody you gotta vote for Kamala.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
What I said, and I'll stand by it. Just to
be fair. If your wife is voting Trump, what are
the odds that demand isn't how many honest questions? How
many married couples out there? I think there are a
lot that split, right, we have a gender divide. I
think there's lots of men who would vote Trump. I
think there's women who would vote Kamala. I think there's
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lots of those households. I think there are many fewer
households where wife votes Trump and husband votes Kamala. Would
you agree with that that is a like, a very
like there's lots where both do the same. My household,
we're gonna have double Trump voters. I think it's fair
to say, buck your household, you'll have double Trump voters.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Just so there's a lot of.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
Harry's like, what was that criticism of Trump you had.
Let's let's tighten that up a little bit, you know.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Okay, So there's lots of households out there that are
gonna double Kamala vote. I do not believe there's very
many households where woman is a Trump supporter and husband
is a Kamala supporter. So I think you're right there,
But I do think it's significant. He went on to say,
I don't judge people by their politics. I can get
along with anybody because they kind of let him on.
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Because Taylor Swift has decided that she's going to endorse Kamala.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Caitlin Clark was also asked the same Ques question yesterday.
I would submit to you that Caitlyn Clark is probably
the most famous female athlete in America right now. Here's
what she said.
Speaker 9 (37:08):
You liked an Instagram post last night from Taylor Swift
that got a lot of attention, and I'm just curious
if you could tell us what that post meant to
you and if you are in fact potentially going to
endorse Kamala Harris.
Speaker 8 (37:24):
I think for.
Speaker 10 (37:25):
Myself, as you know, I have this amazing platform, so
I think the biggest thing would be just encourage people
to register to vote.
Speaker 6 (37:32):
I think for myself is the second time I can
vote an electra at.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Age twenty two, out of the vote when I was eighteen.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
So I think do that that's.
Speaker 10 (37:38):
The biggest thing I can do with the platform that
I have.
Speaker 9 (37:40):
And that's the same thing care did, and I think
continue to educate yourself the candidates that we have, the
policies that they're supporting. I think that's the biggest thing
you can do, and that's what I would recommend to
every single person that has that opportunity in our country.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
You know what, Okay play?
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (37:56):
You know, and obviously you follow sport professional sports a
lot more than I do. That's the what is that saying?
I watched the Super Bowl and the US Open and
that's about it. But that's somebody who wants to build
a brand that's worth hundreds of millions of dollars is
what that is.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
That's what that is.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
That's somebody who's like, you know what, I don't want
to antagonize half of my prospective ticket. Shoe Jersey, I
don't know, you know, skincare product, whatever she's done, that.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Is Michael Jordan's example, or Tiger Woods for that matter. Okay,
one more because I think this one is funny too.
Usher was on our favorite show, The View. Usher. If
those of you don't know, prominent black musician Joy Behar
just went all in on, Hey, don't you need to
endorse Kamala Here's the answer, here's the response in this.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Emergency that we're in. I think that whose artist has.
Speaker 10 (38:49):
Come out and speak for Kamala against Donald Trump?
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Because he is an existential threat to the country. What
do you say to that?
Speaker 5 (38:56):
You know what.
Speaker 10 (38:56):
I don't get too deep into politics. I didn't get
a chance to watch the debate last night, obviously, have
been watching like everybody else. I think voting is an
individual choice. I think that you're right. You have to
look at the reality of the country that we are
and the country that we want to be and find
the candidate that you feel both are who fits the
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category of where we want to be. And that's it,
and that's what you vote based off of who you
highlight and how you choose to highlight it on whatever
platform you have is your prerogative.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Up Look to me, Buck Mahomes, Caitlin Clark, and Usher
Boom boom boom. Maybe they all have the same pr person,
but all three of them, especially Usher there when Joy
Behar is like trying to rate him on a super
left wing show to endorse Kamala and admit and hit
her opinion that Trump's a horrible human being. I think
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that's a significant cultural shift that we're seeing, Yes, and
I think it's one, And it's the business move that
we thought everybody was going to be making in the
public sphere until really about what fifteen to now.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
I mean their Hollywood actresses who've always been very vocal
about their politics, but I mean, if you were just
trying to maximize your brand's profitability, you tended not to
antagonize half the country. That changed, Yes, that changed, and
then you had people like Colin Kaepernick who were dragging
it in the other direction of Oh, it's worth so
much more to you to be woke and to squeeze
(40:30):
everything you can out of that that spitting in the
face of half of your audience when they don't care
what you think about the following things is that's a
trade off you should make. I do think the pendulum
has started to swing back. You know, it's the bud
light effect. It's a number of what was the what's
that store target with all the sort of lgbt Q stuff.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Forgetting the children tuck like bathing suits.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
And yeahff, people were just like and the you know,
the Disney chief creative executive who's like, well, I have
a pan sexual child and a non binary child, and
everyone's like, this is in charge of what projects get
made at Disney for kids?
Speaker 4 (41:08):
What, by the way, what are the odds I know
we've talked about that.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
What are the odds that the parent just happens to
have a non binary child and just happens to have
a pan sexual child and also a super left wing
But these have nothing to do with each other, right,
It's not in doctrination, it's just nature, not true. So
I think this is this is encouraging at some level,
but play also I think that look, I don't follow again,
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you know this sport stuff way better.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
Than I do.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
But with Patrick Mahomes, he always comes across to me okay,
just observing observing him as I have in different interviews
and things. He's a guy who comes across as humble
while being a superstar, which is so refreshing to people.
You know, he's a guy who there's a gratitude that
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he has all the time for being the best quarterback
in the end, for being a celebrated superstar, for being
worth what is you worth forty fifty million dollars a year?
Whatever's on his content, Yeah, easily, yeaheah, whatever it is.
I mean, I'm guessing he comes across like a guy
who really is like, I want to inspire people and
entertain them with my excellence on the field and make people,
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you know, aspire for things in their own lives because
of the greatness that they're around and that they see
on my team, and that has value to people that
that's something you know, you don't need people to be telling.
Speaker 5 (42:30):
You know.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
The problem with the athletes is a lot of them
want to lecture on politics, and I'm just like, you
don't know what you tell You're just not very well
informed on politics, right correct.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
And you actually expect them to be right, because most
people who have to commit, and you do a great
deal of time, effort, and energy to being excellent at
one particular field, it's not that often that you're an
expert in another field, right, And I think it's fine
for me able to share their opinions. But I've always
been of the opinion that the Michael Jordan era, the
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Tiger Woods era, was a unity era where we could
all watch a great athlete and we didn't need to
think at all about anything other than their athletic excellence.
And it feels to me when you got Patrick Mahomes
and Caitlin Clark in the same day, even in the
midst of a high stress political universe, saying yeah, I'm
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not gonna endorse, it feels like a major cultural swift shift,
swift shift by what Taylor Swift is doing.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
I would even be happy.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
With a move toward more prominent public figures just saying look,
I'm gonna vote Trump or I'm gonnavotekamalok. But I understand
it's a personal decision, and I just encourage everybody to
do their own homework and get out there whatever the
thing that really sits in you know, sticks in people's car.
The think it really is annoying is you know, well,
I just want to tell everybody, like, I can't imagine
how you wouldn't vote for this person or that person.
(43:52):
You know, it's like or I'm I'm like the Chelsea
Handlers of the world, being like, I'm gonna move to Canada,
and then you know, the their side loses and they
don't move to Canada. I'm actually glad they did that
now though, because it's so funny, because it becomes such
a cliche. You know, it's also look not throwing shade
at Canada. Very nice people, You're gonna leave the US.
I don't even know if that would be choice number one.
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It's really cold in the winter.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Not even close to choice number one for me. I
mean not even in the like, I'm not sure it's
top twenty for me. Sorry Canada.
Speaker 4 (44:23):
Wow, our Canada listeners dropping off.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Vancouver is really nice. I don't do cold weather.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
It's not you know, they have the most overheated in
some of the major I think in all the major
cities now, like the most overheated real estate markets in
the entire world.
Speaker 4 (44:38):
China. Crazy China has come in.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
I mean Honestly, especially in places like Vancouver and brought
up Chinese, people have care.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
Probably have the guy who is eating the apple who's like, yeah,
who says that?
Speaker 5 (44:47):
Why?
Speaker 4 (44:48):
Who said that? Tell me who you know?
Speaker 2 (44:49):
That guy from that famous clip, the leader of the
Conservative opposition there. I saw him on a video where
he was talking about how sixty percent of the cost
of building any whether a house or department, any new
housing unit in Canada is purely government regulation and taxation.
Now sixty that's another part of it too. It's just
they've made it so expensive to build anything that there's
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a housing crunch and people can't afford to find places
to live.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
I got a Canadian brother in law, by the way.
Really yeah, now now I'm really not going to be
able to visit.
Speaker 4 (45:22):
Ah. You know, we let's get a call from Canada,
just that we haven't heard from you in a while.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
We got a few listeners up in Canada right now,
high we all want the great white snowy north of Canada.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
All right, let's talk about this for a second.
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Welcome in now. We hope all of you are having
a fantastic Thursday, wherever you may be across this great country.
We got three hours of fun coming your way. No
matter what is going on in the world at large,
We're going to make you have hopefully a pretty good
time and make you a little bit smarter than you
otherwise would have been. About all of the issues of
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the day. We'll talk about the continued fallout of the
Tuesday Night debate, to the extent that there is any there.
We will talk with our friend Chip Roy, congressman from
Texas about the situation on the border. We will give
you the latest from the numbers and what we are
seeing in all of the markets out there, both poll
(00:43):
and gambling markets, as well as the data behind them.
But we began buck, I want to kind of talk
about the way that Trump supporters are talked about on MSNBC.
MSNBC in particular, although it also happens on CNN and
certainly is embedded in much of the reporting that goes
(01:04):
on in the New York Times and in Washington Post,
is a level of personal attack that virtually never happens
when it comes to the reverse and when it does happen,
they turn it into a multi day storyline. I'm thinking
about Jade Vance joking with Tucker Carlson a couple of
(01:27):
years ago that a lot of Democrats were childless catwomen
and they grabbed their faint they grabbed their pearls and
fall on the fainting couch, And oh my goodness. What
about the rhetoric and what they say about us and
all of those things. There's very little actually negative said
about Kamala Harris voters in general. Trump supporters, on the
(01:49):
other hand, are attacked violently, nastily all the time. And
I was thinking about that this week sum and then
this clip surfaced from our friend Joy Reid, who frankly
may have the dumbest show of all of the shows
that air on MSNBC, because I regularly see clips from
(02:11):
her show and just think there's no way someone with
a functional IQ could be putting on this kind of
program consistently. So there are lots of dumb people at
MSNBC on air. There are also people who are willingly lying,
Like I don't think Rachel Maddow is dumb. I think
she just is a propagandist. But the attacks on Trump
(02:32):
supporters in particular are pretty crazy to see, and there
are no functional equivalents to this. I feel quite confident
on Fox News. But here is the Nation's Elie Mustelle
telling Joy Reid. Trump supporters are despicable. Listen to cut three.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Everything he does is despicable.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
The reason why it doesn't and his career is because
his supporters aren't just as despicable, all right, Like Trump's
whole thing.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
He's a narcissist, right, and so.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
His whole thing is to have a complete lack of
compassion and empathy for everybody else.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
It's all about him. That's why he lies about.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Nine to eleven.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
It's all about him. Me, me, me.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
He's probably the least compassionate president we've had in two
hundred years since Andrew Jackson. And it works for him
because his supporters are just as ungenerous and have just
as little compassion and empathy for others. And that's why
it never hurts Trump when he takes these crass and
classless actions, is because his supporters think that being crass
(03:35):
and classless is actually kind of cool.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I have met thousands and thousands of Trump supporters over
my life. Buck many of them are listening to us
right now. They are some of the kindest, most patriotic,
most loving of America people that I have ever seen.
I will tell you a little bit of an anecdote.
(04:00):
There were dueling rallies in Aspen, Colorado. You might remember
a couple of weeks ago. I was out in Aspen
twentieth anniversary wedding anniversary as out there with my wife
and Trump came to do a fundraiser, and there were
that day in downtown Aspen dueling rallies. And a woman
wrote into the local Aspen newspaper and said she was
(04:22):
an undecided voter, but she went to go visit both rallies,
and I do think this would be emblematic very often
of what you would see.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
She said.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
The Trump people were incredibly welcoming to her, wanted to
tell her how much they loved America and how much
they were fans of Trump, whereas the Kamala supporters, by
and large, to the extent that those people even exist,
just wanted to tell you how much they hated the
Trump people. I think that's reflected actually in the country.
(04:50):
The Trump supporters that I have met are some of
the greatest patriots and some of the nicest people out there,
whereas it seems to me the Kamala people and before them,
the in people by and large have just decided they
hate the Trump people. They don't really like their side
as much as they hate the other. Does that reflect
some of what you've seen as well?
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Well?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Of course, also it is right in line with the
truth of the modern Democrat party, which is that it
is a religion, and it's not a religion based around
one person. To be a Democrat a liberal, although that's
a very poor word choice really for what they are.
They're really authoritarian collectivists. They're not in any meaningful way
(05:33):
liberal about anything. They don't believe in liberty on an
individual basis. Therefore, I think the term liberal for them
is really incorrect. Leftists, Marxists, communist, whatever you want to
call them. Democrats have replaced so much of what we
think of as I don't know if you want to say,
different aspects of your personality, but different aspects of life
(05:55):
with it's all about being a Democrat. You're a Democrat
and everything. You're a Democrat. When you're watching a sports game,
you're you know, a Democrat. At the grocery store and
they wear this on their sleeve. And I think it's
because it is giving a lot of people. I mean,
if we're getting into the a little bit of Freudian
analysis maybe here of the Democrat Party today, it gives
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people purpose who otherwise feel like they lack purpose or
they have an insecurity about what their contribution is, what
their abilities are in a society that is based on
individual stuff instead of just whatever the group affiliation may be.
So yeah, I think there's a lot of unhappy people
who are Democrats. I mean, this is you're talking about
generalizations that affect hundreds of millions of people. So there's
(06:40):
clearly a lot of you know, I know, happy Democrats.
I'm not saying that, but as a movement, yeah, I
think there's a bitterness about the Democrat Party. You know Trump,
they always try to do this thing. And I didn't
get to see Morning Joe this morning, which was a shame,
but whenever I do watch it, one of the most
common themes you come across Clay is Trump hates this country,
(07:01):
says it's going to hell and all this stuff. Well,
what Trump is saying is that he thinks the current
leadership is running this country into the ground the wrong direction,
but he actually loves America on the merits and thinks
it's a very special place. I think the Democrats, if
you're looking at the ideology of their movement, I think
that they view America as a deeply flawed, deeply racist,
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deeply unfair, rooted in the patriarchy, rooted in oppression. And
these are all negatives, These are all archetypes of a
negative belief. But also what they say on MSNBC. I
don't usually spend too much time on it. The people
on MSNBC are generally not very bright. Just the truth,
they're just definitely not very smart. They are smarter, much
(07:45):
smarter CNN anchors, for example, who just dance to the
required tune on TV. But in MSNBC, they have some
straight up dumbasses. I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
I do think, though the it would be such a
great story if we had a true First of all,
we have almost no one who's truly independent media. But
I think if you went to Kamala rallies and you
went to Trump rallies and you just assessed the overall
friendliness of people there, I think what you would find
(08:18):
is that the Trump people are some of the friendliest
on the planet, and it's not That's why to me,
attacking the Trump supporter is particularly pernicious. Look, we understand
that in this political realm we live in, where it's
fifty four days till the election, they are going to
be nasty things said about Trump. There's gonna be nasty
(08:39):
things said about Kamala And if you think that's unique,
if you're a history nerd like I am, one of
the most ridiculous and fun things to do is go
back and read what was said about Abraham Lincoln, go
back and read what was said about George Washington. I mean,
these guys were attacked in print on a level that
I think would stat people today because we tend to
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think of them as marble men who did no wrong
and had no opposition in their era. Buck they were savaged.
Andrew Jackson was savaged back in the day. They even
took a shot at Andrew Jackson during that clip and said,
you know, the he's an awful guy. But it is
kind of crazy to think that what exactly was going
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on historically probably was worse than what's going on now.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yeah, some of the founding fathers shot each other, Yes,
you know, and there were other times where they came
pretty close to dueling, and you know, Monroe had to
step in at one point and prevent Aaron Burr from
getting involved in a different duel. This is Look, politics
is a rough business. You're talking about power, and you're
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talking about things that really affect human beings in ways
that are very real, and so passions are going to
run high. We're heading into an election cycle right now
where people are feeling a little bit more of the
heat than they have since the last election at this time,
and so there's gonna be this sense of exaggeration.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
But I will tell you.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
The the going after the other side supporters. I mean,
this is why I just said, MSNBC is just sort
of dumb to suggest that Trump supporters they don't actually
know what Trump supporters think. Never mind how Trump supporters are.
They don't they don't have friends really who are Trump
supporters in these left wing circles. They honestly are completely
(10:27):
cloistered from the reality of why people Why are people
attracted to Trump. It's not actually because he's mean, you know,
it's it's not actually because of his narcissism or whatever
that guy was saying the American people, a lot of
them have very real concerns that stem from poor governance,
particularly from what feels like a uniparty elite that doesn't
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care as the middle class continuously just gets squeezed by
policies that involve trillions of dollars of spending, that punish
savers at the and benefit asset holders and UH and
that open the borders wide, and that allow us to
suffer from more criminality than we should because of concerns
over social justice. And these are all very real things.
(11:12):
And they're running an absolute clown to be presidents of
the United States right now, and they had a dementia
pat clown before that, and they're gonna they're gonna lecture
us on who should be in charge. I mean, this
is if they were putting forward serious people who were
really bright and really on it and had a real
vision play, I would say that's that's maybe I disagree
(11:34):
with them. These are unseerious people, but unfortunately they can
do very serious damage to the country.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Not only unserious, lying on a level that we've never
seen a presidential candidate live before. I'm talking about what
they believe in, not whether they get a few facts
wrong or misspeak or things like that. We're gonna play
for you some audio during the course of this program.
We have never had a candidate run for political office
(12:01):
who is on record as a political candidate espousing the
opposite opinion, not something that's a subtle variation the opposite
opinion like we have with Kamala Harris. I mean, it
truly is staggering. And this is why she's not actually
doing any media because even reporters are embarrassed by how
much she has changed her opinions.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Imagine if Donald Trump had come forward in just the
last month or so and said, I'm all about an
open border. I want more illegals. The more legals, the better.
I want more abortion, abortion everywhere, paid for by the taxpayer.
I want higher taxes on everybody, less business growth. I mean,
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everybody would say, what the heck is going on here?
That is what Kamala has done, just from the other side,
and we're supposed to accept this.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
And remember Bernie spoke the truth here where when he said,
and I think this is so important. We played this
clip earlier this week. Oh, she doesn't believe any of this.
She's just saying it because she needs to get collected.
Of course, he said the quiet part out loud, and
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Speaker 4 (14:26):
And now we send it back to Clay and.
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Speaker 2 (14:38):
Welcome back in to Clay and Buck. I want to
get to some of your calls coming up here this
hour on Now that we've had everything settle in a
little bit with the debate situation.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
How are you feeling. I'm feeling good.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I gotta tell you the Buckster is feeling good about
how the Trumpster is gonna do. I still I'm confident,
not over confident, but I think with continued focus, he's going.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
To get it done. This time.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I wanted to point something out here and Clay and
I are going to dive into this. Some of the
fact checks that happened. You know, there's this back and forth.
Why wasn't we know why Kamala wasn't fact checked. Okay,
we have to point it out, but we all know why.
But on the issue of whether she wants trans taxpayer
funded trends surgeries for both illegals and for prison inmates.
(15:30):
Instead of just telling you what her position is, well
let her tell you. This was Kamala Harris back in
twenty nineteen on the issue of trans surgeries for inmates.
Listen to this moderate who wants to build a wall. Now,
she says, Kamala Harris, play it.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
They were standing in the way of surgery for prisoners,
and there was a specific case. And when I learned
about the case, I work behind the scenes to not
only make sure that that transgender woman got she was deserving.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
So it was not only about that case.
Speaker 7 (16:04):
I made sure that they changed the policy in the
state of California so that every transgender the inmate in
the prison system would have access to the medical care
that they desire to need. And I believe it was
not only I know it was historic in California, but
I believe actually it may have been one of the
first if not the first in the country where I
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pushed for that policy in a department of corrections.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
A pioneer in the realm clay of taxpayer funded trans
surgery for inmates. Oh, by the way, I assure you,
she thinks that a man who has a trans surgery
to become a woman should be in a woman's prison.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Well, which is absolutely insane. She also believes that transgender
surgery should be provided for immigrants in migrant shelters, meaning
in both cases, your taxpayer dollars should go to be
changing and changing is in quotation marks can't change a gender,
but for surgery that would be designed to try to
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allow someone to pretend to be a different gender than
what they are. I mean, I lose my mind over
the way that tax dollars get spent. Now, the idea
that this would be done, These surgeries buck are insanely
expensive expensive. Yep, it's not like you're look. Inmates do
(17:32):
deserve some medical treatment, right, they have to be. But
the idea that you would get elective surgery to inmates
that are paid for by taxpayers is beyond insane.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I mean, we're also going to pay for you know,
lip injections and Brazilian butt lifts and all these things
that you know, all these cosmetic surgeries too. I mean,
why not just put it on the taxpayer tab.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
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joined now by Congressmanship Roy of Texas and let me
dive ahead in the all right, off the top and
then the most divisive issue in the state of Texas today,
how are you going to handle the Texas Texas A
and M rivalry returning Thanksgiving week? Will you and your
wife be able to coexist? How will your children do?
What is the prognosis there on the biggest dividing line
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in the state of Texas right now?
Speaker 5 (19:23):
Well, Clay, good to be on and great to have
Texas being not just in the mix, but right now
at the top of the heap. Although obviously we got
to say we we Texas got to get through oh
you in order to even get to Georgia. And so
we've got to finish you know, this month strong and
get to that month. So hopefully we'll get a good
one two punch. And you know, obviously, you know, Georgia's
got to get there as well. And I think, what
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do they play Alabama is this coming week with the
next week but eight yeah, okay, twenty eight, So you know,
we got, you know, A and M and Texas finally
coming back Thanksgiving weekend. That is a good thing for
college football. It's a good thing for Texas. I'm not
sure what it will mean for my family dynamics. I
got a lot the family, you know, But my wife
has been doing a pretty good job, you know, raising
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our kids. They're pretty pro A and M right now.
And Governor Perry, my old boss, and John Sharp the
chance for they've been leaning in heart of my kids.
But Texas football is the top of the heap right now.
There's no question about that. They're good. They looked really
good against Michigan. We'll see. The defense has still got
to play. Somebody stout, but yours is doing great.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Congress and Roy, you took the words right out of
my mouth, by the way, on all that football analysis,
so thank you for that. I want to switch gears
if I can, for a moment here to the situation
of the border. I assume we're going to find out
here pretty soon what the what the total illegal crossings are.
At least according to CBP for fiscal year twenty four,
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they're going to be high. The Biden administration is telling
us they're not as high. What is the status right
now of of the border day in and day out
hasn't been in the headlines much. What has changed and
what stayed the same since say the beginning of the year,
when it was just a free for all.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Yeah, important question. I actually put out a report that
people can find at Roy dot House dot God. Now
that's official. I'm not pimping anything political here. I'm just
putting out a report that it was almost forty pages
that my step put together to put all this in context,
and in it you'll find that this crisis remains very
real because even though we don't see piles of people
(21:26):
up on the border, it's say Eagle Pass or Laredo
or any other place in Texas where it's in the
news every day. Bill Malusian is still reporting hard on
Fox others. What you're having is lots of people being
released into the United States. Were flown into the United States.
We still had one hundred thousand interactions apprehensions of people
coming in in both June and July. We don't have
(21:46):
the August number jet but those are still astronomically high.
They're a little lower than they were at the two
hundred and one hundred and seventy five thousand levels, but
one hundred thousand a month is extraordinary. Remember Jay Johnson
under Obama said one thousand a day was a I sis, well, man,
we're now, you know, saying and like patting ourselves on
the back because we're down to one hundred thousand. That's
a problem. This administration is released five and a half
(22:09):
million people into the country, two million gutaways. Those are
their official numbers. They actually cop to this. That's how
many people have been dumped into the United States that
we know of. And look, the dangers are huge. We
had a hearing of the Judiciary Committee, Dad wore yesterday.
We had this wonderful young woman. She's twenty seven, Alexis Nungray.
You've seen the story her daughter, Joscelyn, twelve years old.
(22:30):
And I know, you guys, your dad's I've got a
daughter that's very similar in age to Jocelyn. And she
was you know, Alexis woke up and her daughter was gone,
and she finds out her daughter had been gagged, bound
and murdered and raped by two Venezuelans who were specifically
released under so called parole into the United States. So
to all the listeners out there. It's not just about
people walking across the Rio Grand there are thousands. Actually,
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the vast majority of these people are being released into
the United States in a system methodically under the sea
one app using our laws and bastardizing our laws to
dump people in the United States. And now you got
twenty thousand hast hanging out in Springfield, Ohio.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Chip, you're talking about the border situation. You've been in
politics a little while. Can you ever remember anybody completely
flip flopping their opinion on as many issues as Kamala
Harris has, from the border where she now favors a wall,
to evs where she no longer favors a mandate to
(23:31):
fracking in Pennsylvania, which she's now in favor of. Now
she wants to have plastic straws allowed. I mean, some
very serious flipflops, some less serious, but emblematic of her
changed positions. Have we ever seen anything like this?
Speaker 5 (23:49):
Well, I mean, look, people get called flip floppers all
the time for far less egregious flip flopping than we're
seeing out of Kamala Harris. Right, Remember, you know George H. W.
Bush potentially lost they in nineteen ninety two for the
you know, read my lips, no new taxes, and frankly
it was only kind of a half break of the pledge, right,
he cut some taxes, raised some other ones. So you know,
(24:10):
we used to be very specific about that. Here we've
got She would say things like two days before the debate, like,
for example, they put out a tweet or she said
she would want to ban assault weapons. Now we can
have a debate about that policy. I'm a very strong
proponent of the Second Amendment and keeping all of it
all right, she said ban them. Then she goes to
the debate and said, I'm not talking about banning guns.
(24:31):
Yes you are, you literally are. You tweeted it out
two days before. So but you had no fact check
from ABC. And look, I'm not one to like point
the finger and go, oh my god, it's all because
of ABC.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
No.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Look, you know, we all know the media is biased.
But the bottom line is she has been changing on
every one of these issues. Now why is that. Well,
obviously she wanted to give be to win the primary
and to beat the Democrat nominee, which she ran four
years ago, so she ran hard to the left. She
answered the ACO ACLU questionnaire, answered all the liberal questions. Now,
she's trying to win a general election, so you know
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what she believes. We all know who she is. It's
been very obvious from the get go, and she is
as much of a radical progressive Democrat as anyone in
that administration. So you know what you'll get in January
if she's elected.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Talking to Congressman Chip Roy and Congressman do you think
that Trump should I know that Trump's gonna do what
he's gonna do, right, we're just wondering about how you
view this from now until election day? Do you think
Trump should debate again? Do you think it makes sense
or have we had enough of it at this point?
And also do you think there is enough focus from
(25:39):
his campaign on the border issue more broadly?
Speaker 5 (25:43):
Well, on the first point, I'm certainly not going to
tell the campaign what to do. I mean, you know,
that's up to them and up to the president. And
she said what, no one's gonna tellhim what to do.
I wouldn't be afraid of another debate. If I debated again,
I would be even more aggressive. I think he landed
some good punches. I think answer on for example, firing
bureaucrats was a great answer. I thought he had some
other good answers, but I do want to see him
(26:05):
hitting harder on the border. I mean, she was trying
to hide behind. You know, this notion of this so
called Senate bill in January, which is just a fraud.
That bill would codify the mass release program that they
put in place. It would codify the abuse of a
parole and asylum paroles.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Actually, can I jump in really quick?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
This is important? Yeah, you talk about parole and I've
been looking into this too for how this affects the
migrant you know, invasion and what's going. Can you tell
me what does that mean that people have this CBP
one app abroad, they get some time and they're being
flown into the country for their appointments by Biden, Like,
how does this work?
Speaker 5 (26:46):
Well, I'll try to give you the simple answer. I mean,
I could pick it twenty minutes to walk it through it.
But here's the short version. Prior to this administration, we
had certain policies in our books, allowing for exceptions. They're
pretty narrow. Asylum if you have a credible fear of
persecution for your religious or political beliefs. Okay, that's one category.
Two is parole on a case by case basis. The
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statute literally says, case by case, we're supposed to make
a determination if there's a reason to parole you temporarily
into the United States for some reason. Let's say your
aunt is having a liver transplant, or somebody's got fighting
camps and you want to come in and we need
to parole you in, or some reason like that. But
what they've done is taken that little exception and they've
(27:30):
now turned it into a wide program that is not
case by case, but rather it's being done across the
board to dump literally hundreds of thousands, millions of people
in the United States in violation of the law. They
actually built an app, you referred to it the CBP
one app where people put their name in and they
basically come to the border and they're like, okay, you're
parolled in. Here's your date, and you're noticed to appear
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in court in July of twenty thirty two. Literally we're
giving out dates well into the twenty thirties. Now it's
a fraud, it's a bastardization of law. And in the process,
we have zero vetting, I say, zero negligible vetting because
border patrol is strained and we don't allow them to
do their job in the first place. So now you
have what thirty five thousand Chinese nationals. You have significant
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numbers of known terrorists on the watch list. You have
criminals like the guy released in Buffalo who killed twenty
three Peruvians and we just found them in Buffalo, but
we released him into Roma, Texas and he ended up
up there, and then all of these deaths. Kayla Hamilton,
Rachel Morin, Jocelyn Nunger A right, I mean I could
go down the list.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
How often is hike? Are you about how Texas is
going to vote?
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Congressman, I feel good about Texas, but we need to
show up, like we have got to get out there.
I mean, look, the Senator cruizes race. I mean right now,
I think if you look at the polls, it's a
single digit race, you know, probably mid single digits. So
you need President Trump to do well and everybody needs
to show up. I mean, we have people moving to
Texas who share our values. We have people moving to
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Texas who do not share our values. We have people
who that have been released into the United States illegally.
We're trying to prevent non citizens from voting. Our Democratic
colleagues won't work with us on that other than five
who voted for the bill. So we've got a lot
of work to do. And as centator, as President Trump
has said, we need to win, too big to rig.
That's the only way. If you're counting votes in Maricopa
County on election night, we're in Trump. If your county
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votes in Fulton County, we're in trouble. We need to
win overwhelmingly because people are frustrated with inflation and lagging economy.
You know, our fecklessness on the world stage, leaving Afghanistan
wide open borders, people dying from fentanyl poisoning, et cetera,
et cetera.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Congressmanship, Roy, I will see you maybe down at that
Texas game against Georgia in Austin.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
Well look forward to it. Let's just hope Georgia against
you Alabama and Texas row you and we got a
big old match up in Austin, Texas.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Be a lot of fun. Talk to you soon see you.
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Speaker 1 (31:06):
The Klay and Buck podcast feed, on the iHeartRadio app
or wherever you get your podcasts. And I told you
I had an optimistic take on culture, Sports, music, movies.
It appears to me that there is a groundswell of
(31:27):
desire which I think could be so important to the
discourse in this country for America to go back to
the era that Buck, even though he's much younger than
me and I grew up in and that many of
you out there around our ages also grew up in
(31:49):
the nineteen eighties and the nineteen nineties. Many of you
out there are nostalgic in many ways for those eras,
even the early parts of the two thousands, but in
particular the eighties and the nineties, because we've had a
crazy era. Then people might have disagreed politically, but we
(32:11):
didn't decide when somebody voted different than us that they
were despicable, as MSNBC has been calling Trump supporters today
or last night. We played that audio for you earlier,
and I've been arguing for a long time that really,
the I would say celebrity athlete who characterized that era
(32:33):
better than anyone was Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan, to this
day is still the most popular athlete in America. On
my last book before this current one, was called Republicans
by Sneakers to crazy stat for you at the time
I wrote that book, Michael Jordan's Air Jordan Sneakers still
(32:55):
sold more every year than every current NBA player combined,
Lebron Steph Curry. You roll them all up together, they
sold less than Michael Jordan's Air Jordan's were selling. I
think that's still close to true even today. Why was
that because Michael Jordan's hallmark was his excellence, and he
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wanted everyone to celebrate his excellence. White, Black, Asian, Hispanic, gay, Strait, Republican,
Democrat Independent. In fact, my book was called Republicans by
Sneakers two because that was a quote from Michael Jordan
in that era when he was asked why he didn't
get political. Then suddenly that all changed. In the Trump era,
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athletes decided they had to use their platforms, and they
had to be super partisan, and they had to come
out in favor of Hillary Clinton, they had to come
out in favor of Joe Biden. It's dying down now.
Buck In twenty twenty four and yesterday, there were three
different clips that I think tell an interesting story. First,
let's start with Patrick Mahomes, who I would argue is
(34:03):
the single most famous male athlete in America today quarterback
for the Kansas City Chiefs. His wife, Brittany has suggested,
based on things she's liked, that she is a Trump supporter.
Trump has been complementary of Patrick Mahomes and Brittany. He
was asked about it at a press conference yesterday. This
is what he said for President.
Speaker 8 (34:22):
Trump, the family against the Fox News in relations to
this campaign.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
I just wonder what your reaction is to seeing that.
Speaker 8 (34:28):
Yeah, I think I've always said I don't want I
don't want my place in my platform to be used
to endorse a candidate or do whatever each Either way,
I think my place is to inform people to get
registered to vote, is to inform people to do their
own research and then make their best decision for them
and their family. And so I think that's every time
I'm on this stage and I get asked these questions,
(34:50):
I'm going to refer back to that because I think
that's what makes America so great.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Pretty great answer in many ways.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
You know what's funny about this, Clay is a lot
of people hear that people like you and me and
others will listen and say, I wish pretty much every
athlete would just do this, Although than athletes look, well,
we're not allowed to have, you know, opinions on politics,
but you know I have more and Hollywood actors, you know,
famous people of all kinds. I wish they would just
(35:17):
stop with the But because he's not willing to smugly
lecture everybody on politics when we just want to celebrate
athletic greatness, people are gonna assume he's Republican.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
You know that, right, I mean this is now.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
The only people that are like, I don't want to
be annoying about my politics are Republican. If you're a
big Kamala voter, you're telling everybody you gotta vote for Kamala.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
What I said, and I'll stand by it. Just to
be fair. If your wife is voting Trump, what are
the odds that demand isn't how many honest questions? How
many married couples out there? I think there are a
lot that split, right, we have a gender divide. I
think there's lots of men who would vote Trump. I
think there's women who would vote Kamala. I think there's
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lots of those households. I think there are many fewer
households where wife votes Trump and husband votes Kamala. Would
you agree with that that is a like, a very
like there's lots where both do the same. My household,
we're gonna have double Trump voters. I think it's fair
to say, buck your household, you'll have double Trump voters.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Just so there's a lot of.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
Harry's like, what was that criticism of Trump you had.
Let's let's tighten that up a little bit, you know.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Okay, So there's lots of households out there that are
gonna double Kamala vote. I do not believe there's very
many households where woman is a Trump supporter and husband
is a Kamala supporter. So I think you're right there,
But I do think it's significant. He went on to say,
I don't judge people by their politics. I can get
along with anybody because they kind of let him on.
(36:51):
Because Taylor Swift has decided that she's going to endorse Kamala.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Caitlin Clark was also asked the same Ques question yesterday.
I would submit to you that Caitlyn Clark is probably
the most famous female athlete in America right now. Here's
what she said.
Speaker 9 (37:08):
You liked an Instagram post last night from Taylor Swift
that got a lot of attention, and I'm just curious
if you could tell us what that post meant to
you and if you are in fact potentially going to
endorse Kamala Harris.
Speaker 8 (37:24):
I think for.
Speaker 10 (37:25):
Myself, as you know, I have this amazing platform, so
I think the biggest thing would be just encourage people
to register to vote.
Speaker 6 (37:32):
I think for myself is the second time I can
vote an electra at.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Age twenty two, out of the vote when I was eighteen.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
So I think do that that's.
Speaker 10 (37:38):
The biggest thing I can do with the platform that
I have.
Speaker 9 (37:40):
And that's the same thing care did, and I think
continue to educate yourself the candidates that we have, the
policies that they're supporting. I think that's the biggest thing
you can do, and that's what I would recommend to
every single person that has that opportunity in our country.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
You know what, Okay play?
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (37:56):
You know, and obviously you follow sport professional sports a
lot more than I do. That's the what is that saying?
I watched the Super Bowl and the US Open and
that's about it. But that's somebody who wants to build
a brand that's worth hundreds of millions of dollars is
what that is.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
That's what that is.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
That's somebody who's like, you know what, I don't want
to antagonize half of my prospective ticket. Shoe Jersey, I
don't know, you know, skincare product, whatever she's done, that.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Is Michael Jordan's example, or Tiger Woods for that matter. Okay,
one more because I think this one is funny too.
Usher was on our favorite show, The View. Usher. If
those of you don't know, prominent black musician Joy Behar
just went all in on, Hey, don't you need to
endorse Kamala Here's the answer, here's the response in this.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Emergency that we're in. I think that whose artist has.
Speaker 10 (38:49):
Come out and speak for Kamala against Donald Trump?
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Because he is an existential threat to the country. What
do you say to that?
Speaker 5 (38:56):
You know what.
Speaker 10 (38:56):
I don't get too deep into politics. I didn't get
a chance to watch the debate last night, obviously, have
been watching like everybody else. I think voting is an
individual choice. I think that you're right. You have to
look at the reality of the country that we are
and the country that we want to be and find
the candidate that you feel both are who fits the
(39:18):
category of where we want to be. And that's it,
and that's what you vote based off of who you
highlight and how you choose to highlight it on whatever
platform you have is your prerogative.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Up Look to me, Buck Mahomes, Caitlin Clark, and Usher
Boom boom boom. Maybe they all have the same pr person,
but all three of them, especially Usher there when Joy
Behar is like trying to rate him on a super
left wing show to endorse Kamala and admit and hit
her opinion that Trump's a horrible human being. I think
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that's a significant cultural shift that we're seeing, Yes, and
I think it's one, And it's the business move that
we thought everybody was going to be making in the
public sphere until really about what fifteen to now.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
I mean their Hollywood actresses who've always been very vocal
about their politics, but I mean, if you were just
trying to maximize your brand's profitability, you tended not to
antagonize half the country. That changed, Yes, that changed, and
then you had people like Colin Kaepernick who were dragging
it in the other direction of Oh, it's worth so
much more to you to be woke and to squeeze
(40:30):
everything you can out of that that spitting in the
face of half of your audience when they don't care
what you think about the following things is that's a
trade off you should make. I do think the pendulum
has started to swing back. You know, it's the bud
light effect. It's a number of what was the what's
that store target with all the sort of lgbt Q stuff.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Forgetting the children tuck like bathing suits.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
And yeahff, people were just like and the you know,
the Disney chief creative executive who's like, well, I have
a pan sexual child and a non binary child, and
everyone's like, this is in charge of what projects get
made at Disney for kids?
Speaker 4 (41:08):
What, by the way, what are the odds I know
we've talked about that.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
What are the odds that the parent just happens to
have a non binary child and just happens to have
a pan sexual child and also a super left wing
But these have nothing to do with each other, right,
It's not in doctrination, it's just nature, not true. So
I think this is this is encouraging at some level,
but play also I think that look, I don't follow again,
(41:31):
you know this sport stuff way better.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
Than I do.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
But with Patrick Mahomes, he always comes across to me okay,
just observing observing him as I have in different interviews
and things. He's a guy who comes across as humble
while being a superstar, which is so refreshing to people.
You know, he's a guy who there's a gratitude that
(41:56):
he has all the time for being the best quarterback
in the end, for being a celebrated superstar, for being
worth what is you worth forty fifty million dollars a year?
Whatever's on his content, Yeah, easily, yeaheah, whatever it is.
I mean, I'm guessing he comes across like a guy
who really is like, I want to inspire people and
entertain them with my excellence on the field and make people,
(42:19):
you know, aspire for things in their own lives because
of the greatness that they're around and that they see
on my team, and that has value to people that
that's something you know, you don't need people to be telling.
Speaker 5 (42:30):
You know.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
The problem with the athletes is a lot of them
want to lecture on politics, and I'm just like, you
don't know what you tell You're just not very well
informed on politics, right correct.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
And you actually expect them to be right, because most
people who have to commit, and you do a great
deal of time, effort, and energy to being excellent at
one particular field, it's not that often that you're an
expert in another field, right, And I think it's fine
for me able to share their opinions. But I've always
been of the opinion that the Michael Jordan era, the
(43:00):
Tiger Woods era, was a unity era where we could
all watch a great athlete and we didn't need to
think at all about anything other than their athletic excellence.
And it feels to me when you got Patrick Mahomes
and Caitlin Clark in the same day, even in the
midst of a high stress political universe, saying yeah, I'm
(43:21):
not gonna endorse, it feels like a major cultural swift shift,
swift shift by what Taylor Swift is doing.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
I would even be happy.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
With a move toward more prominent public figures just saying look,
I'm gonna vote Trump or I'm gonnavotekamalok. But I understand
it's a personal decision, and I just encourage everybody to
do their own homework and get out there whatever the
thing that really sits in you know, sticks in people's car.
The think it really is annoying is you know, well,
I just want to tell everybody, like, I can't imagine
how you wouldn't vote for this person or that person.
(43:52):
You know, it's like or I'm I'm like the Chelsea
Handlers of the world, being like, I'm gonna move to Canada,
and then you know, the their side loses and they
don't move to Canada. I'm actually glad they did that
now though, because it's so funny, because it becomes such
a cliche. You know, it's also look not throwing shade
at Canada. Very nice people, You're gonna leave the US.
I don't even know if that would be choice number one.
(44:13):
It's really cold in the winter.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Not even close to choice number one for me. I
mean not even in the like, I'm not sure it's
top twenty for me. Sorry Canada.
Speaker 4 (44:23):
Wow, our Canada listeners dropping off.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Vancouver is really nice. I don't do cold weather.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
It's not you know, they have the most overheated in
some of the major I think in all the major
cities now, like the most overheated real estate markets in
the entire world.
Speaker 4 (44:38):
China. Crazy China has come in.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
I mean Honestly, especially in places like Vancouver and brought
up Chinese, people have care.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
Probably have the guy who is eating the apple who's like, yeah,
who says that?
Speaker 5 (44:47):
Why?
Speaker 4 (44:48):
Who said that? Tell me who you know?
Speaker 2 (44:49):
That guy from that famous clip, the leader of the
Conservative opposition there. I saw him on a video where
he was talking about how sixty percent of the cost
of building any whether a house or department, any new
housing unit in Canada is purely government regulation and taxation.
Now sixty that's another part of it too. It's just
they've made it so expensive to build anything that there's
(45:11):
a housing crunch and people can't afford to find places
to live.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
I got a Canadian brother in law, by the way.
Really yeah, now now I'm really not going to be
able to visit.
Speaker 4 (45:22):
Ah. You know, we let's get a call from Canada,
just that we haven't heard from you in a while.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
We got a few listeners up in Canada right now,
high we all want the great white snowy north of Canada.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
All right, let's talk about this for a second.
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