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October 1, 2024 60 mins
Iran attacks Israel. Longshoremen strike. How does Israel respond? Tim Walz is a phony.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show, breaking news.
As we told you as we finished the first hour,
hundreds of missiles right now raining down all over Israel,
fired from Iran, hitting every different place that you can imagine,

(00:24):
breaking coverage happening all over the television network. The Iranian
response is it seems more extensive than what happened in April. Buck,
it's hard to tell to be certain exactly how many
of these are landing you can speak to this and

(00:46):
how many of the things that are landing are potentially
missiles that were shot down partly but then falling and
having an impact.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
I mean, this is the issue right now.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Play The Iron Dome is able to shoot down, intercept
certain missiles, rockets, things like that, but you have to
factor in one. It is not perfect no missile. Think
about how complicated this is. You're talking about hitting a
missile with another projectile to stop it from detonating on

(01:21):
your territory. But then the bigger issue I think right now,
and from what I'm seeing on the screen as I'm
watching this seems to be happening, is a brute force
attack that overwhelms the Iron Dome and the interception capabilities,
meaning even if you could shoot down one hundred missiles

(01:41):
at one time, let's say in Israeli airspace or entering
Israeli airspace, Well, what happens if they're able to fire
off two hundred and three hundred missiles at once? And
that may be what is going on right now? This
is happening. Remember it's nighttime there. This is happening as
we are talking to you, So this isn't breaking news
from this morning. Missiles are impacting right now in Israel

(02:06):
as we speak to you. It does seem to be
a more extensive attack than the previous Iranian you know, whatever,
whatever you call it. You know, Iranian strike running an attack.
But if they've overwhelmed Iron Dome, you are tragically gonna
have casualties.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
And this is this is the problem.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
But the Israeli response to this is also a big question,
you know, at some point. First of all, Clay I
just I would say this, imagine for a moment what
this news story is like if if Iran had sophisticated
ballistic missiles that could do massive damage and evade Israel's

(02:49):
Iron Dome. And then ask yourself, imagine if with every
one of these missiles being fired. There was a thought
in the back of the minds of every decision maker
in Israel, every Israeli, never mind just everyone in the IDF.
Do any of these have a nuclear payload?

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Right?

Speaker 3 (03:07):
We see this and we think, well, Israel can handle this.
Israel can put up the defense it needs to, and
it can. Although it does seem that some of these
missiles are getting through, it's not clear. We're watching this.
I'm we're talking about this as there's live video feed
on our screens of these missiles raining down in Israel.
But Clay, if there were even near parody between Israel

(03:29):
and Iran and the Iranians were able to strike Israeli
apartment buildings at will with missiles, for example, I think
about what the world would look like, right because you
would have full scale open war between these two countries.
You would have Israel having to launch aerial attacks on
Irani and IRGC headquarters in Tehran, on Mola's palaces. I mean,

(03:52):
it would just be all out. The only thing that's
stopping that right now is that Israel is still militarily superior.
But Clay, I don't know what their response this will
be because what they've decided with him ASO and with
hesbala Is, We're not going to live with your knife
at our throat anymore and talk about negotiations and talk
about the future. This may be a changed a changed

(04:15):
approach to Iran as well as what I'm saying, I
think we're close to all our war in the Middle East.
And let me hit you with a couple of things.
Iranian state media.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
This is from Aisha Hasni, who's at Fox News, has
released this statement in response to the martyrdom of Ismael
and Nyanya. And I'm going to mess up some of
these names, Nazraala and Nil Frushan. We targeted the heart
of the occupied territories. If the Zionist regime reacts to
Iran's operations, it will face crushing attacks.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
That is a.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Statement from Iran saying that they are attacking Israel. I
mean another attack of a terrorist attack taking place in
Israel right now as well. I mean I think it's
fair to say that Iran basically has decided to engage
in all out war with Israel. And this is for

(05:10):
those of you out there and not been following this closely.
This has been the concern ever since October seventh, eleven
months ago, when Hamas attacked Israel, there has been this demand, oh,
let's try to avoid a full out war. In April,
I think it's fair to say, Buck, we had sort
of a kabuki theater esque attack from Iran that seeing

(05:31):
design to allow Israel to defend itself almost I say
kabuki theater like a shadow boxing sparring. You're not really
trying to knock each other down, You're trying to just
allow each other to defend. It's a shadow boxing exercise. This,
based on the videos that I am seeing right now, Buck,
looks like Iran intentionally attempting to inflict serious harm directly

(05:56):
on Israel without pulling the punches like we saw last time.
And now the question is, okay, what does Israel do now?

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Well, there's also and I know that you know this
shouldn't be about oh, the political in the short term.
This is when you don't want a commander in chief
who's a vegetable sunning himself on the beach somewhere and
nobody knows or cares what he's doing. Okay, that's the
when we talk about this. It's for moments like this
where the right phone call to the ally or or

(06:27):
perhaps even through an intermediary to the enemy. Here, I
mean getting the word out, having a view of how
this should be handled, and stifling this before it goes
out of control. Because again, we started out the show saying, yes,
Israel militarily superior, and I said, but I'm worried about
terror attacks. And then there's a terror attack within minutes
of us saying this on the air, you know, and
then there's the missiles, and now it seems that the

(06:48):
missiles might be getting around some of the iron domes
capabilities play. Iran doesn't have to have anything near military
parody with Israel to cause massive problems for the whole world.
And this is where you get into the Strait of
horn Meuz scenario, where twenty five percent of the world's

(07:09):
oil is transiting daily through this narrow waterway, the Strait
of Hormus. What happens if if Iran just decides, all right,
we're just going to take out a couple of you know,
supertankers in the Strait of Hormons, you will bring the
global oil supply to a eight. I mean, they'll still
be it'll still be happening, But I mean you'll put
a shock through.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
It, but that will rule.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Shoremen are striking and at least two major interstates are
inoperable in the United States. It's a cluster, one on
top of another. By the way, response from Israel, Israeli
official say Iran will now face a significant and harsh
response for tonight's attack that's already out there base while

(07:53):
this attack is still going on. I also think American politics.
You mentioned I ran once Kamala Harris elected. If you
are Jewish and you are listening to us right now
and you believe that Israel has the right to exist,
I'm sorry, how in the world are you showing up

(08:15):
next month or voting early this month for Kamala Harris
to be president of the United States when Iran, which
already hacked the Trump campaign and shared what it got
with Kamala and Biden, and is actively trying to murder
assassinate Donald Trump such that bluck I just saw him
on Saturday at a football game. They can't even allow

(08:38):
him to be inn a normal suite and a football game.
They had bulletproof glass that they specially brought in to
allow him to be able to watch a football game.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
How in the world.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Are you voting for Kamala Harris when Iran, which is
trying to destroy Israel and wants to wipe it off
the earth, is actively right now as we speak, trying
to do so.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
I mean, come on.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
It's it's stunning. And I would just say, you know,
going into this vice presidential debate tonight as well. Uh,
the the argument that that Tim Watz is going to
somehow try to make is that there's a lot of
chaos and disorder out there right now and it's Donald
Trump's fault. I mean, that's that's how pathetic it's going
to get, because what else are they going to say?

Speaker 2 (09:26):
What? What feels good?

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Right now? To the average American? The border the worst
it has ever been in our history, national security, Israel,
perhaps on the precipice of a major escalation with with
the Iran, you know, a war and the Ukraine Russia
war going on and on with no end inside and
hundreds of billions of dollars of our money going to it,

(09:47):
a disaster stretching out over half a dozen states that
there's been definitely a slow response from the federal government
on while people are in real duress. You've got a
long sho Orman's strike. You see this Clay, the guy
who is the spokesman that we played before. He owns
a seventy six foot yacht, has a Bentley and gets

(10:09):
paid over nine hundred thousand dollars a year. Yeah, he's
the working man. He's the working man making a million
dollars a year to make sure that your products in
the story, to make sure that whatever you're gonna buy
at Target or Costco or Walmart or wherever it's really expensive. Yeah,
he really cares about you. This is a bad moment
for the country. I mean, this is a tense day

(10:33):
for America. And how is Tim Wall's going to explain that?
You know, because he's speaking on behalf of Kamala Harris,
who's supposed to be speaking on half of Joe Biden,
who can't speak for himself. And this is what we're
dealing with. This is the leadership that's supposed to steer
us through these stormy waters. These people are imbeciles. It's

(10:54):
not just that I disagree with them. I disagree with
plenty of Democrats that I would never say are dumb.
These people are dumb. They do not have the cognitive
ability to see all the threats here and come up
with on the spur of the moment solutions and apply strategy.
It's a clown show with this White House, and that

(11:16):
has consequences. I also think we have to start to
ask the question why is Iran operating with impunity from
the United States perspective. We talked about this last week
buck when Bill Clinton was made aware that there was
an assassination attempt that was planned against George H. W. Bush,

(11:42):
his predecessor, he rained down, Holy hell on Iraq. We
have plenty of evidence that Iran is trying to kill
Donald Trump. Now they have unleashed hundreds of additional missiles
on Israel. Our ally, why are we doing nothing?

Speaker 1 (12:03):
And for people out there they got mad about mean tweets,
I'm sorry. Bad guys only respond when they feel threatened.
You can't talk a bad guy into being a good guy.
They don't respect Biden, would you? They don't respect Kamala?
Would you? We have no deterrence in place, and the

(12:29):
fact that Iran can be openly planning to assassinate Donald
Trump and Joe Biden does nothing gives them the green
light to know that they can do whatever they want.
And there are no consequences. And what you're seeing is
when bad guys feel like they have no consequences, when
there is no fear, all of us are in incredible danger.

(12:54):
That's what we're seeing happen in Israel right now. And
we'll talk more about this when we come back. I
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Speaker 3 (15:30):
We got the VP de Bay coming up tonight. We
got an election about thirty days and change away, and
the ILA Union of Longshoremen has decided that they are
going to on the East Coast and Gulf Coast ports
stretching from New England down to Texas last night go

(15:53):
into a strike. It is the first time a union,
or this union rather has striked since nineteen seventy seven.
Between forty three and forty nine percent of all US
imports moved through the East Coast and Gulf Coast sports,
So basically half of the trade of this country in

(16:18):
import is going through these ports.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
That's a big deal.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
The estimates are the shutdown will be anywhere from one
I think to five billion dollars a day in losses.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Well, let's take a look at this first.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Let's look at what's at issue before we get to
the political ramifications of this.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Because this is a big deal.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
They said this was coming, and by day I mean
the leader of the International Longshoreman's Association, Isla Harold Daggett.
This is what he said a little while ago about
the looming strike. This has cut three. He threatened to
cripple all of us. Play it ted.

Speaker 5 (16:57):
Filling means I have to go back to work for
ninety days, have cooling off period. Do you think when
I go back for ninety days, those men are going
to go to work on that period. It's going to
cost them money, the company's money to pay the salaries. Well,
one from thirty moves and now maybe to eight. They're
gonna be like this, who's going to win here? In
the long run, You're better off sitting down and let's

(17:19):
get a contract and let's move on with this world.
And could today's world. I'll cripple you. I will cripple you.
And you have no idea what that means.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Nobody does. We have no idea what that means.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
We actually have a pretty good idea what that means,
by the way, there's breaking news that missiles have been
launched from Iran as we were on the air here
toward Israel. That has been confirmed. Now Fox News among
others reporting this. So there is a missile strike from
Iran against Israel underway. Now it is up to the
Iron Dome and Israeli air defense systems to prevent these

(17:58):
missiles from hitting their marketside of his year. We will
bring you more updates on this as we get them.
So he says he's gonna cripple us, and this I
think like this was just today, right, the same guys
just happened. Did this just happened? Because now now he
is now they have shut down these ports. Uh, this
is cut twenty eight play it.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Do you worry that this strike the capital to settle
this thing?

Speaker 6 (18:19):
Are you worried that this strike is going to hurt
the everyday American, the farmers that need.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
To read they reached the export market. They're telling me
that they're gonna hurt them.

Speaker 7 (18:27):
I'm just start to realize who the long shoremen are, right,
nobody can. People never gave it us until now when
they finally realize that the chain is being broke.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Now, cause won't come in. Food, won't come in, clothing,
won't come in.

Speaker 7 (18:42):
You know how many people depend on our jobs half
the world, and it's time for them and time for
Washington to put so much fresh on him to take
care of us, because we took care of him and
we're here one hundred and thirty five years and brought
to where they are today, and they don't.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Want to share now.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
I wish the ISLA didn't get its spokesman from the
you know, international Society of goons and thugs. But this
guy is unfortunately doing their cause a lot of damage
in the public's eye right now, Clay, we can get
into why. Yeah, And also I just want to point out.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
One we have basically an absent president and it kind
of matters when Iran is firing missiles at Israel and
when we've got an awful, devastating hurricane that has hit
in multiple states and where we probably got hundreds I
hate to say it, but hundreds of people that have died.
They're still finding new bodies as they are going into

(19:43):
some of these areas. Buck there's reports that bodies are
just in trees because of the high level of flooding
and the collapsing of roofs and people that were stuck
on top of them, all these things that are just
awful again, just disastrous. And now we've got a long
stow attack, a longshoreman a strike.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
On top of all this.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
I just again, we talked about this yesterday, but I
think it's so important. We need as much support as
we can get for people in Tennessee, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, Georgia,
everybody in the Appalachian region that got hit by this
Hurricane Helene. And now they're gonna shut down the port
and we got lost, shut down interstates, and the guys

(20:31):
bragging about the fact that there's gonna be an impact
and it's going to hurt the average American out there.
And where is our president? How is Biden saying nothing
about any of this?

Speaker 2 (20:42):
So a few things.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
One and the timing of this with the devastation, we're
still just starting to figure out how devastating the Hurricane
Helene tragedy has been, particularly for western North Carolina. Is
you know, we had my father in law call on yesterday.
I have family right in the worst area in terms
of flooding damage of western North Carolina and it is.

(21:05):
I mean, it looks like a nightmare out there. It's
absolute devastation that supply chain. You're gonna interrupt supply chain
when that's going on. You're gonna interrupt supply chain right
before presidential election because it think gives you maximum leverage. Well,
let's look at what they want. The ports have agreed
to a fifty percent pay increase. Okay, over the next

(21:26):
five years A fifty How many of you are getting
a fifty percent pay increase. That's not good enough. Fifty
percent pay increase not enough. I think they want seventy
seven percent pay increase. And they also want to stand
in the way of technology. This is the real sticking point.
They don't want automization product projects to be able under

(21:52):
contract to be instituted at these facilities.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Why because they want to be.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Able to keep their boot at the throat of America
shipping and commerce at a moment's notice.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Now, this is not a new thing.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
We get the term luddite from it's actually it's apocryphal.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
There was when the.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
I think it was the wool it was the wool
weaving industry in the UK, clay and there was new
you know, a new like machines essentially to do it
much more efficiently. And there are these stories that people
were smashing the machines and that ned Lud was the
the guy leading this charge. There was no ned Lud,
but Luddite is the term we get from this for

(22:35):
somebody who's anti technology. Right, stop the technology, stop the progress.
It never works. But really, what they're doing, in my mind, Clay,
is reminding everybody of the need to automate as much
as you can, as fast as you can, because if
this is how the human beings that are in charge
of this, through their collective bargaining agreement, are going to operate,
it is too much of a risk to the economy

(22:56):
and society going forward.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
You know, you're not a hero.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
So if when you're in the er room, you know
you're in the er and someone's bleeding out on the table,
you say, you know, this hospital doesn't pay me enough,
I want a million dollars or I'm not going to
treat I'm not going to operate on this patient. Now,
I know that's a pretty extreme version of it, Clay,
but this does look much more like extortion to me
than good faith bargaining. What does technology You're going to

(23:21):
stand the way of technology on top of wanting a
seventy seven percent pay increase. I yes, Look, I always know,
as you well should know also that whenever there are
disputes between labor and management, there's always some truth on
each side, right, That's why the dispute exists. I'm never

(23:42):
someone who comes out and says management's awful, they're wrong
on everything, or labor's right, they're right on everything. The
reality is, eventually they come to an agreement. That's the
entire basis of the collective bargaining process. But buck the
president has the ability to end strikes. And again this
is it's been a while since I studied presidential authority

(24:07):
and exactly how it applies. But given what's going on
in North Carolina and Tennessee and the massive amount of
damage and resources that are necessary to help the people
in those states, I don't think it's crazy for the
president to exercise his political authority and demand that these

(24:30):
guys stay on the job until we can.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Solve the issues there where.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
This is where leadership matters, Okay, And it's complicated and
it's dynamic, and it's difficult.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Do we trust Joe Biden to be able to work
through this.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
We talked yesterday about two major interstates right now or
shut down because of the damage from Hurricane Helen. I
forty in particular, which is a major conduit across this country,
and I forgot I thirty six or thirty five is
the other one. We had the truck driver call in
and discuss the chaos that exists from a transportation perspective
because of Hurricane Helene. Now a huge portion of the

(25:09):
port system in the United States is shut down, which
is going to restrict even more the distribution and flow
of goods. And if you've forgotten about what the impact is,
remember when we had the supply chain crisis on the
West Coast and mayor Pete is out there basically non existent,
and what that did to cost of goods and difficulties

(25:30):
out there. I'm concerned Buck that we could start to
see some panicked buying in some of these grocery stores
and some of these big box retailers, because people decide, hey,
I want to make sure I've got enough. Remember when
you couldn't buy toilet paper anywhere in the United States
during the COVID mess. If people start to believe the

(25:50):
supply chain is breaking. Guess what happens the supply chain
breaks because generally speaking its function. We don't have inventories
backed up in these places four weeks at a time.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
Well, you're also going to see that there's a lot
of there's a lot of rerouting that they're going to
do to the West coast ports.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
But that takes time, costs, slow downs.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
Right, So there are some ways that they can try
to alleviate this, but it's it's going to create a mess.
It's going to be a big problem. And I just
think that the notion that you should be in a
position where you can engage in essentially collective extortion to
prevent technological progress that would make everything more efficient and
better for all Americans, they're playing a dangerous game here.

(26:33):
A lot of times when unions, you know, to your point, yeah,
there's some there's some truth. Look, they agreed to a
fifty five percent pay raise, right, that's the truth on
both sides when you're agreeing. But when you're saying you're
not allowed to use technology in ports to make things
more efficient, what you're saying is we want a effectively
a government backed monopoly here. Yeah, because the governments are

(26:54):
the only reason the government enforcement of union contracts or
union rather regularlyations is the only reason that unions can
get away with what they do in the first place.
I look this up in twenty fifteen, Clay in twenty fifteen,
so I don't know what it is now, but this
is the most recent one I could find. West Coast
union longshoremen make over one hundred thousand dollars a year,

(27:17):
A lot of them make over two hundred thousand dollars
a year, and some of their union bosses make over
three hundred thousand dollars a year. And they all get
free healthcare, excellent healthcare they don't pay a dollar for.
I'm sitting here, I'm like, So, we're gonna have union
guys you're gonna make and I'm sorry, you're gonna have
long shoreman you're gonna start making if they get.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
What they want.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
I mean, start at the two hundred thousand dollars level.
If you get a seventy seven percent increase, you know
you're making close to three hundred grand in base salary.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Okay, that that seems like a good gig. What are
the qualifications to do this? Again?

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Like, how long does it take you know, I know,
I know some people who are doctors who to make
three hundred grand. Yeah, and they go to medical school
for six years I'm sorry, four years and then four
years of residency. Yeah, yeah, I get it. And that's
why I think it's complicated.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
And by the way, their salaries can act as a
tax and an inflationary impact on all the goods that
we buy, because guess what, when you have to pay
a lot more to get a product into a port,
the company doesn't just say, okay, we're going to eat
that cost. The company says, we're going to bump up

(28:30):
the cost of all of our goods in order to
cover the new higher labor costs that we have. So
whatever you end up like, this cost gets passed down
to you. Right when in terms of you going out
to the grocery store wherever else you go, all of
those goods, it's not like the companies eat them.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
And there are reasons why they are boundaries, you know,
there are boundaries on this and to your point about
the president's stepping in, but they don't want you right
now right because they're shaky with Kamblo, with the unions. Obviously,
that's why doing it because they know they're in a
particularly power You think they tried this crap under Trump.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
They're in a particularly powerful position visa be the Democrats
with a weak candidate who doesn't have union support, and
so they know that they're pushing it even more. But
you know, the American people see this and just you know,
the ISLA is not endearing itself to anybody right now,
especially when you look at the numbers and look at
what the demands are and this idea that they had

(29:26):
to show up during COVID, Yeah, so did grocery store employees.
You know, calm down, Okay, everybody got COVID and lots
of people showed up to work during COVID. It doesn't
make you some heroes. We all actually learn the lessons here. Okay, COVID,
everybody got COVID, a lot of people went to work.
Doesn't mean you get to hold a gun to the
head of the American economy afterwards. So, you know, maybe
I'm a little a little too strident on this, but
from what I see, you know, Okay, what if the

(29:49):
NYPD just said, you know what, our cops need to
make twice as much money or else we're not shown
up to work tomorrow. Is that collective bargaining?

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Is that fair?

Speaker 3 (29:56):
I mean be against New York State law. Of course,
it's against the law for a reason. But I'm just saying,
why is it against the law because it's extortion What
they're doing right now feels very extortionate. It does not
feel like good faith collective bargaining, which is why they
have the chief goon going out.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
They're like, yeah, feel the pain.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
And here's the other thing I would say, is we
go to break. I would argue that all of this
is bad for Kamala and Biden because the more chaotic
their ten year seems, the less argument there is for hey,
we need you, in the same way that I think
they used BLM riots to try to demean Trump's leadership

(30:32):
by trying to tear him down and argue, oh, a
new president will bring more stability. Well, now democrats are
in control everywhere. Does it feel stable to you as
we wait for all these rockets to arrive in Israel?
Does it feel stable to you when the East Coast
shipping lanes are shut down? Does it feel stable to
you that we don't have a president that can deploy

(30:53):
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Speaker 1 (32:20):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. We want to play
for you. You're just getting in your cars. Israel under
attack from Iran. Hundreds of missiles fired from Iran at Israel,
and the footage of this has been pretty unbelievable to

(32:40):
see as the Iron Dome over Israel has intercepted many,
hopefully most of these missiles.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
We wait on the full impact of what these missiles
have done.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
It's worth mentioning that Israel has engaged in a very
targeted campaign against terrorists. They have certainly at times led
to civilian loss of life, but that's because many of
these terrorists try to put themselves underneath civilian businesses or

(33:15):
residences because they feel like that protects them from being targeted,
because they have all of those civilians that are around them, hospitals, schools,
all of these different things that are cowardly, but are
designed to protect them from being attacked. Israel has done
their best, whether it's exploding pagers, exploding walkie talkies, to

(33:37):
directly target terrorists themselves all throughout the Middle East. What
Iran just did buck was indiscriminately attack the entirety of Israel,
with the hope being that some of their missiles would
get through and kill innocent people. This was not some
sort of targeted response attack that was directed only at

(33:59):
the Israeli military or only at Israeli leadership. They're trying
to kill as many Jews as possible, just like what
happened on October seventh. I think it's important to keep
that perspective in mind as you analyze what's going on
in the Middle East. But I want to play a
couple of cuts for you of what it sounded like now.
This is in English on Israel's English speaking live newscast

(34:24):
that our crew has grabbed. A reminder also that Rashashana
starts tomorrow at sundown, one of the Jewish holy days.
Let's listen to I twenty four. This is Israeli News
cut twenty nine, just before one o'clock in the morning
in Israel talking about the waves of missiles coming.

Speaker 6 (34:45):
Of sirens, and now we're hearing booms. This would be
the third or fourth wave of missiles that they launched.
According to the images coming out, it would indicate that
we're talking about a few hundreds of missiles at least
that were launched. We don't know if this also included
cruise missiles or drones like last time, but in terms

(35:07):
of the scope currently we can say not officially confirmed,
but just according to the videos coming out.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Of Iran when they filmed the launches.

Speaker 6 (35:17):
That we're talking about many many dozen, if not a
few hundreds of missiles that were launched. And again this
was launched in a staggered manner and waves. So when
we left the studio that was the first wave, but
now we're hearing the third or fourth wave that was
launched towards is Raey territory.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
There could still be more on the way.

Speaker 5 (35:36):
All right.

Speaker 8 (35:37):
What you're seeing right now are live visuals from Jerusalem Boulevard,
where we also saw a terror attack take place earlier
this evening, about half an hour ago.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
That's actually one of our.

Speaker 8 (35:49):
Hebrew language correspondents who is on the ground of that
scene apparently four people confirmed dead, seven injured. The incident
has now ended, but multiple terrorists were involved in that
attack on the light rail station within the Tel Aviv Arean.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Okay, sorry, that's one o'clock our time, about eight o'clock
ish in Israel live broadcast. Let's also play for you
cut thirty. This is also again Israeli live television that
we have grabbed so that you can hear exactly what
they are discussing in Israel right now as Iran attacks them.

Speaker 9 (36:24):
I think that Iran may have made a very big
mistake because by launching this attack, clearly they wanted to
save what's left of their so called national honor. The
problem for the Iranians is that they are not able
to flood Israel's air defenses because His Baala cannot join
full force with this attack.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
And that was the original.

Speaker 9 (36:44):
Iranian game plan, was to flood Israeli air defenses if
this moment came with strikes, massive strikes like we just
saw fwim Iran and from his Balla most of its
firepower is offline.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
They're firing what they can. That appears to be the
case right now. Wow.

Speaker 9 (37:00):
And so not only did Iran you know, I think
fail to and we're still at a very early stage here,
but it looks like the majority of these projectiles have
been intercepted. We still have to wait for more information.
This is all, of course, very preliminary. But now Iran
has opened itself up to significant Israeli retaliation.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Okay, I think that's the key bock. Now we say, okay,
what does Israel do in response to this? They seem
to have neutralized Hesbolah and Hamas. Do they go directly
after the Iranian nuclear capabilities? Do they go after any
of the Iranian leadership? Given what they did to Hesbola?
I would think that Iran has to be very nervous.

(37:41):
This was designed to be a show of force from Iran.
Hey we're still here, we still matter. But it also
opens the doors you just heard at the end of
that discussion to a substantial Israel response in Iran.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
I'm not sure how far they're willing to go and
what they're going to do. I do think that we're
in a new era here because of the October seventh attack,
which is Israel's nine to eleven.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
We've said that here all along.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
That was a it was a change in overall perspective
about about the scale of the threat and also the
the depth.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Maybe they already knew this.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
I mean, I'm sure they did in many ways, but
the depth and depravity of some of the all the
enemies that they have on their perimeter, and they've just
decided enough and everything every action Israel has taken, you know,
turns out that a bunch of idiot college kids on
US campuses protesting, Yeah, Israel doesn't care, Okay, Israel is
trying to defend its people and deal with the enemies

(38:43):
and the viciousness that is all around them. I think
that you're probably going to see something from Israel that
is meant to show that no one in Iran is
safe either, and that they're willing to you know, if
they have to take out the head of the IRGC
and blow up a building to do it, they'll do it.
And you know, Israel's capable. Look, I've been I've been
out of the national security game for a while where

(39:04):
I don't know the extent of Israeli capabilities with regard
to what kind of missiles and what kind of strikes
they have. Now, I mean it's you know, they've learned
a lot over the last decade since I've been out.
But I do know that they're going to want to
make the Iranians pay a heavy price so that they
don't do this kind of thing going forward. I mean
that you have to extract enough of a penalty from

(39:27):
the other side that they don't think that this is
a viable option, or else they'll continue to do it.
And that's what they certainly did with Hamas.

Speaker 7 (39:34):
Right.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
It's like, Okay, you're going to launch a mass terror
attack and you're going to kill, you know, twelve hundred
people who are totally defenseless, unarmed men, women and children.
You're gonna rape, You're going to light them on fire.
To all this horrible stuff. We're going to root you out,
stem and branch, and we're going to eliminate your leadership,
and we're going to kill everybody involved. That's absolutely the
only way that they could respond to it. Anything less

(39:54):
than that would be insufficient, Anything less than that would
be unjust to the Israeli people. And so I think
you'll see something that's not only proportionate clay, but meant
to mentor honestly frighten their enemies so that they won't
cross these lines again and what that looks like.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
We'll see. I mean, you saw what they just did.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
The Usurala and his successor, the Israelis have very exceptional
intelligence in Iran as well.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Spokesman for the IDF Rear Admiral Daniel Hagari, states the
attack has now ended, residents can leave their shelters.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
This is in the last five minutes.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Further states, so far no casualties reported, which would suggest
that they did a phenomenal job shooting down all these
missiles and that most of those missiles have been intercepted.
Now we'll see whether that remains true. There also have
been terror attacks inside of Israel that has claimed several
lives around that same time. So again, we will continue

(40:55):
to update you on this and also we come back
in the next hour. By the way, there's a vice
presidential debate that is going on right now tonight that
could be impactful. Given that we're now in October and
we're exactly five weeks from election day. What in the
world do we expect from that. We haven't even hardly
been able to talk about it because we got the

(41:17):
crisis in the Hurricane Helene aftermath impacting so many states
in the Appalachian region. We've got the shutdown going on
on the East coast right now of the Longshoreman and
a direct attack from Iran inside of Israel, all taking
place simultaneously. But as we come back for the third
hour here in a little bit, we're going to dive

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Speaker 3 (43:13):
We have the latest coming out of Israel the Middle East,
the salvo fired by Iran shot down by the Iron Dome.
No casualties from that reported in Israel, yet tensions remain high.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
You have a port.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
Work stoppage labor union walk out going on from New
England down to Texas. So East Coast and Gulf Coast
ports currently shut down. The International Well the whatever it is,
the ISLA, the Longshoreman's Association, has decided to shut down.

(43:50):
That could have major effects in the economy. You've also
got ongoing rescue and relief efforts in the damage area
of Hurricane Helene and the Biden administration finally figuring out
that if they don't start doing a lot more, a
lot faster, people are getting very agitated with the sloth

(44:12):
and the sleep at the wheel feeling on the federal
government side. But we also with all that, Clay, as
if it was not a busy enough news day, as
we're here on the show, in just a matter of hours,
we are going to have Tim Walls and Kamala. I'm sorry,
Tim Walls and jd Vance. A Walls Harris debate would
also be really fun, But a Tim Walls jd Vance

(44:35):
debate my expectation. And I'm I'm not trying to spike
the football here, Clay, but you know some people got
a little bit oh jd Vance and the cat lady
comment why do we go with jd Vance?

Speaker 2 (44:46):
I was like, excuse me, excuse me.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Probably the best VP president of VP pick we've seen
in a very long time. I think jd Vance is
going to do an excellent job tonight. He is a
high wattage guy, yuh, knowledgeable, quick on his feet, and
and I think presents well. And I think that Tim
Walls is going to get shown up by him. But
a big part of this play is Tim Walls is

(45:12):
a very just like Kamala. It's interesting that she you
would have thought she could have picked somebody who would
make it seem more moderate the whole thing, right, not
just getting a guy on the ticket to deal with
her man problem with male voters. Well, that there would
be some Okay, let's get someone who you could call
a centrist without everyone breaking out and laughing. You know,

(45:34):
a centrist Democrat. You know, Shapiro's a Democrat? Is he centrist? Okay?
Maybe not, but certainly, uh, your your your buddy Basher
over there and in the great state of Kentucky, you know,
I mean there, the the guy, the the astronaut Kelly
in Arizona. People would make the argument, even though in
policy he's a leftist, that he's sort of culturally and

(45:57):
esthetically centrist, Right, That's what I think they could have
gone for.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Somebody's like And the more you see about Tim.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
Wallis, you're like, first of all, you know, I mean,
he's supposed to be like the military coach guy, but
he sort of seems a lot more like he's in
a musical theater. I'm just saying like he's a little
more theatrical than you would anticipate.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
He's fabulous.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
And here he is supporting single payer, government run medicare
for all back in twenty eighteen. You want to talk
left wing, play it it's cut five. Sorry, cut five. Nope,
maybe not.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
I think that's probably the path where we end up.
I'm not sure what your answer was. Are you for
single payer?

Speaker 8 (46:40):
House?

Speaker 2 (46:40):
That was the answer. I just gave you up. We're
going to go there. But are you for it? Are
you going to push to push on for.

Speaker 10 (46:46):
Not paying twice as much as any other industrialized nation
getting half for it. I'm making sure the fourteen top
nations that get the best returns at the least cost
end up making sure that you cut out that piece
of to simply payer keeping getting between people in there
their doctors.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
Single payer healthcare Clay. And he also bragged about mass
immigration in the town of Worthington, Minnesota. This has cut
four And here he is laying it out for everybody
that you know, the more languages spoken in school, the
better play it.

Speaker 10 (47:17):
We have more refugees per capita than any other state.
That's not just morally a good thing, it's our economic
and cultural future.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
This beautiful diversity we see out in Worthington.

Speaker 10 (47:28):
When I'm there, you see fifty languages spoken in the school.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Fifty languages spoken in the schools. That is not a
good thing.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
That means that the amount of learning that is going
to be going on in those schools is very small,
and the resources spent for translators and special teachers very
very high. But he wants this clay, He wants the
far left version of America.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
I think he's a moron, and I don't say that
to just kind of dive into hyperbole. He does not
seem like an intelligent human being to me. And we're
in scary times, honestly. I mean, we were talking about
Iran attacking Israel, the hurricane that just happened, hundreds of
people potentially dying, the fact that the longshoremen have shut

(48:20):
down the East Coast, the fact that we've allowed thirteen
thousand convicted murder sixteen thousand convicted rapists, over four hundred
thousand criminals to walk across our southern border, overwhelmingly young men,
as most criminals are, and those men are now wreaking
havoc on many innocent American citizens. We need Walls and

(48:44):
Kamala to be held accountable for their awfulness. And Kamala
really I was tweeting about this earlier. The only time
Kamala seems authentic to me is when she talks about
how much she likes cooking. I really think she likes cooking.
Otherwise I think she is to a large extent buck
and empty vessel. And if you try to think about

(49:07):
why she's so poor at answering questions. I think we've
talked about this a little bit. But if you could
never say what you actually believe, and you had no
self confidence, and you really didn't have any core foundational beliefs,
then every question.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Would feel to you like a minefield.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
And that's why she answers questions in a way with
banal trivialities and use of words that don't actually apply.
I want to play for you in a little bit.
She got asked whether you should stand for the national anthem.
I think the answer to that's really easy. Yes, I
think you should. But if you choose not to, you're

(49:47):
very fortunate to live in the United States where we
don't put you in prison for something like that. It's
an easy answer. She couldn't answer it. She gave a
word salad, as is her typical perspective. Kamala and Walls
together is the dumbest president vice president ticket we have
ever seen. Whatever you think about JD. Vans, guy's really smart.

(50:08):
And if he focuses and hones in on all the lies,
Walls has told on all the things he's done and
bragged about doing. Leaving the windows open on your mansion
so you could smell the burning of the Minneapolis city
and arguing that that's a good thing, refusing to call
out the National Guard, not prosecuting anybody who burned down

(50:30):
Minneapolis leading to a massive spike in murders, failing on
all things COVID, making kids play basketball wearing masks. I mean,
this is what he did. He shut down the football season.
He wants to brag about football, He wouldn't allow high
school kids to play. If JD Vance prosecutes this case,
I think Tim Walls is going to crumble and fall apart.
I think this should be a really good night for Republicans.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
And I also think that there's something very disingenuous about
the way that Tim Waller has been attacking JD.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
Vance.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
Fortunately, we got two veterans up there, because otherwise, you know,
Walls would just be ohh, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
While you were making all your money with the fat cats,
I was busy writing training orders on US soil or
being in Italy and needing plenty of pasta at a base,
like you know, the guy never deployed to a combat zone.
But put that. I'm just saying.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
If jd didn't have military service as well, oh the
whole debate, then I would just be well, I'm sorry,
did I mention I was in the military. So at
least there'll be a little bit less of that, I
think than than there would have otherwise. And I think
that the disingenuous part of Tim Wallas comes out when
he attacks JD.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Vance, when he.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
Does this whole like, oh, like, I'm just a good
Midwestern guy, not one of these yale venture capital guys
like you. No, people from the Midwest celebrate their children
and people from their communities going to elite schools and
doing really well professionally too, Like.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Do you know what I'm saying. Yeah, he's positioned himself
as it somehow. You know, it'd be one thing if JD.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
Vance came from an old, wealthy family, Donald Trump does,
Jade Vance does not. But to say that the narrative
now is all like he's not really authentic that JD.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
Vance.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
You see how how smart he is with all the
books in the stuff. It's like, buddy, there's a condescension
here from JD. I mean from Tim Walls trying to
appeal to like the everyday folks. But you know what
the everyday folks want to hear that you don't think
the thirteen year old should have like gender surgery and
the taxpayer should pay for it and parents shouldn't know.

(52:28):
That's what everyday folks want. They don't need you to
play this like class warfare game. I went to public school.
Somebody getting to go to Yale from public school with
something that everybody celebrated. So when Tim Walls came out
in his speech and he said I graduated with sixteen
people in my Nebraska class and none of them went
to Yale, as if achieving something from a background where

(52:50):
it's not expected is something to demean.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Look again, JD. Van's very smart.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
You can attack him in a variety of different ways
for his opinions that he has, but his actual biography,
single parent, household, mom, who was addicted to methu went
to join the Marines, went to Ohio State University on
the GI Bill I believe, then ended up at Yale,
married a super talented it appears brilliant lawyer from Yale

(53:20):
has raised in the process. I believe they have three kids.
Of raising three kids, like jd Vance is the American
dream and jd Vance's narrative, whether he is white, black, Latino, brown,
you know whatever, the narrative arc that he has is
something that we should all celebrate for any person.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
Right.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
The whole idea should be, whoever you are, you can
have that pathway in America if you want and if
you work hard. Right, that's what That's what the story
is supposed to be. The story is not oh yeah,
you know, while I was coaching football, we weren't sending
any of our kids to those smart guys schools.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
You know, This Tim you don't talk about. The Tim
Wallas thing is really like, you know, it's funny because
I have.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
I have family in the South, and there's a Virginia,
you know, and I used to go there a lot,
and there's this sense sometimes that some of the you know,
East Coast and Northeasterners, whether you're talking flyover states and
the South, catch a lot of attitude from people on
the coast who are just like, oh, you know, not
exactly studying up over there. I feel like Tim Wats
is doing that, and he's trying to appeal to those people.

(54:26):
He's like, oh yeah, it's real, real tough being Jadi
Fance with his big words and his smart guy books.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
You know, well, again, I've said this on the show,
but nobody else adopts fake accents. If I go to
New York City or in Boston, you don't suddenly hear
me talking like a Kennedy, Right. I'm not like showing
up like I gotta get some child. I can't even
do accents, you know, I got to get.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Some child out.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
We should do a segment that just Clay does ask me,
I can't do accents, but I just sound like me.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
I can't.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
I can't be anybody else. I'm not a good enough actor.
But when they tried to say, hey, you know, Tim
Wall's really good appeal to people. He wears a camo hat,
just makes me want to left. I mean, it's so demeaning, like, oh,
you're not even gonna Rin. First of all, I live
in Nashville. Somebody wearing a camo hat doesn't stand out
to me. I'm not like, oh, look, that's one of

(55:15):
my guys, like or somebody wearing cowboy boots or whatever else. Like,
people are comfortable in their own skin and we can
see through. I really think this is where people who
live in the South and live in the big ten states,
we can tell when people are phonies. Yes, and Tim
Walls is a phony. He's a pretend rural state guy

(55:39):
that actually agrees with everything that people in New York
City and LA and all these left wing bastions support,
and so when he tries to come off as a
normal guy, it actually doesn't connect. And Buck I just
went to the Georgia Bama game right interviewed Trump there.
If you went to the Georgia Bama game, there's a
huge variety of people in that stadium.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
There's the guy with.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
You know, smoking a cigarette outside the stadium that is
spending you know, two weeks paycheck to be able to
go to the game. And there's the guy who flew
in on the private jet that's going to be in
a suite watching this game and leaving to get on
the private jet. The point is all different types of
people are there, and they all come together and get
along because they have a common purpose even though they

(56:25):
have a very different background.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
And the one thing they can smell is phony.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
And jd Vance is a normal dude that they've tried
to claim is weird, and I think in this debate
he's actually going to come across really well.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
And I think Tim Wallas is not only phony, I
think he's a moron. Clay the like white guys for Harris.
I mean every time they try to do this, they
always have some guy who comes out.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
It is like we we're red beat eating, you know,
we like to have the steak and to go do
the hunting as well and vote for Kabila Harris. And
You're like you you are not You are not giving
the message that you want white dudes for Harris, Like
you are not conveying this aura of masculinity that remember,
they're being chosen for this role. I'm not just picking

(57:10):
on somebody who's at random. They bring out some guy
you know who looks like his name is uh, you know, uh,
like like Fatteus or Pepper or something from Brooklyn who
is working on his advanced like degree in fine arts,
and they're like white guys for Harris, just like everyone
else in America.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
You would appreciate this, by the way, ninety nine point
nine percent amazing feedback and response from everybody at Georgia Alabama.
But I was walking up to my seat in the stadium.
One guy said I hate you, and I just said,
why should I care? And I mean, I'm not trying
to be a jerk about it, but so many of

(57:48):
these politicians are so desperate to be liked. If I
don't know you and you decide that you hate me,
that's about you. It's not about me. And so I
was like, I hate you, and I was like, why
sh I care? And I genuinely think he had no
idea really how to respond, because whether he likes or
doesn't like me, I'm never gonna see him again. It
doesn't impact my life. I mean, I like to meet

(58:10):
people who listen and enjoy the show. But if somebody
says they hate me, like, why should I care? And
I think that if you look at Kamala and Walls,
the people who are the most profoundly inauthentic are so
desperate to try to make people like them that you
can see through them. And I think to Trump's credit,
what he's rare in is he was kind of universally

(58:32):
beloved when they were just dropping his name and all
the rap songs and everything else, and then he decided
to go into the fire and he doesn't really care
if you dislike him, and I think that makes the
people who like him like him more. And I think
that gets missed very often, and ultimately, I think it's
going to make a big difference when it comes to
the middle part of the country and people voting.

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