August 13, 2024 • 36 mins
Billion-view Musk-Trump conversation on X signifies an important media shift. Elon offers Kamala same opportunity, but she won't do it. Elon quote on how wokeness shields leftist meanness. Sex-change of Elon's son turned him against the woke mind virus. Trump on Biden. Elon is all-in for Trump, will college-educated moderates be influenced? Callers.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody. Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis en Buck
Sexton Show kicks off right now. We are racked, stacked
and packed, my friends. Glenn back to the Man himself
will be joining us second hour, talk to us about
everything going on, and he has quite an eye for
the future as well, so we'll ask him where things
(00:21):
are going. We've also got Eric Hovedy running for that
critical seat in Wisconsin, that Senate battle. He'll be joining
us third hour. Can he defeat Tammy Baldwin. That would
be a gut punch for Senate Democrats. We are certainly
hoping he can pull that one off in the Badger State.
Would also be a great indicator of how things are
(00:42):
going for Trump in that state, if he's able to
even out with longtime incumbent to Tammy in the polls.
So we've got two phenomenal guests and a lot of
things to dive into today. As you know, we are
just is it eighty three days now? The math is
going to escape me, but something like that eighty plus
(01:03):
days from election day, early voting starting in a matter
of weeks, not months, we are in the thick of it.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Usually August is a time when you know you can
sort of just sit around and just talk about whatever
and there's not a lot of news. There's a lot
of news right now. A lot of things are happening.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
First off, the Elon factor, the Elon phenomenon. I like
Elon phenomenon better. I think that came into view last
night with the sit down that Donald Trump did with
Elon Musk on X. I'm gonna dive into that. The
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media's controversial, Well, that's not even controversial because we expect it, right,
I guess the media is absurd, absurd thrown shining for
Biden and for Kamala and for the Democrats doing everything
they can to make this administration look like something less
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of a disaster than it is. The Kamala campaign has
put out a response to the Elon Trump sit down.
So let me dive into that. Let me get into
that first and foremost, because one of the things that
I've been saying to you that factors into my optimism
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for Trump and the Republicans in this election is that
we learned some lessons in twenty twenty and some things
have changed. Notably, twenty twenty was the absolute high water
mark of online digital censorship. Of online authoritarianism, particularly with
the dominant social media platforms, which when it comes to news,
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are the single, you know, decider of what is in
the news cycle. I mean, the social media platforms are
pushing more information out there by far than what you
can get from any one of these other news websites
that have been around, or these newspapers. Even some people
still read. The newspaper has been around for a long time.
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So we have Elon buying Twitter. It is no longer
one of the authoritarian tools of the Democrat Party and
of the left. It is a free speech platform, or
a platform at least that adheres to the principles of
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free speech. And Trump sat down with him. Now, there
were some tech issues to get it started, and that
is unfortunate. It took a little while to get going.
But when you have that many people that want to
hear a conversation, the technology can be stressed a little bit.
And if anyone's going to get that fixed, I'm sure
it is Elon himself. He has since put out that
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the discussion with him and Trump, in terms of view
oz is at the billion mark, a billion with a B.
This was a conversation A lot of people wanted to hear.
It wasn't a formal interview. And by the way, I
like that Elon set it up this way. I like
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that Elon said, I just want to talk to Donald
Trump as a person about things that matter. I'm not
here pretending to be a journalist. I'm not here pretending
that I have some pseudo objective approach to getting the
information that's honesty. Well, I'm just gonna talk to this
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guy about I'm gonna share my opinions, He's gonna share
his opinions. We're having a conversation essentially like a podcast
on X in real time, and there's some very interesting
things that were said. I'm gonna dive into some of
those here. Of course, as this is happening, the toadies
of the Walls of the Harris Walls campaign in immediately
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started attacking this. They started saying, you know, this is
like an kind donation to the Trump campaign from Elon.
Guess what Elon has already said, Kamala Harris is welcome,
welcome to get on this platform, and he will host
a spaces with her as well, which is a live conversation.
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It's like a stream on X that I even can
listen into I'm telling you. I mean X is for
social media platforms, the future of news and communication. I
think so. I've been a believer in it all along.
I know there have been some challenges Elon has taken
along the way, but he's the only man on the
planet who was going to do this, and it has
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had an enormous positive effect in online communication and also
in American politics specifically because they had a stranglehold on us.
I mean, yeah, this show, Talk Radio, Fox News. There
are a number of platforms, but if you add all
the liberal media platforms out there, the news shows and
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everything else, CBS, ABCNBC, CNN, MSNBC, New York Times, LA Times,
Washington Post, you add all this up, and then you
add to it Google, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter. We were just
completely outgunned. We're still a little outgunned, pretty utgunned, but
at least we can fight back in one place online.
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It is very important. A lot of people believe that
if Twitter and Facebook had not suppressed the Hunter Biden
laptop story, because it was so gross and showed just
the the sliminess of the Biden family at a time
when Biden was promising to restore decency and unity to
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the White House. It might have cost them the election.
You can't convince me that it wouldn't have swayed ten
thousand votes here, fifteen thousand votes there if that story
had gotten the cover that it deserved, which was of
Biden family influence peddling to US adversaries and enemies. That
was the real story that they were able to suppress
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when they had full control of Twitter. But Elon has
changed all that. Will Kamala Harris sit down with Elon Musk?
The answer is no, she will not do it. And
I would say that she's a coward, but that's actually
not the right word. It's not that Kamala isn't brave
enough to do this. Honestly, she is not dumb enough
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to show everyone how dumb she really is. And so
that's where this that's where this all comes together. She
knows she has to hide from the American people as
much as she possibly can. She has to hide her
absolutely absurd policy ideas of the past, which the media
now says, oh, she doesn't believe that anymore, Well why,
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and says who? Kamala doesn't seem to address these things.
It's just spokespersons talking through the filter of the media.
Oh yeah, No, you can't attack her on that anymore
because she doesn't believe that. If you will believe the
media right now, Kamala doesn't believe anything on policy that
she said four years ago that is of particular interest
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to the middle of the electorate. Now, isn't that so interesting?
Anything that could be problematic for her to fool people
is suddenly just cast aside. You say, wait, but she
said it, then what does she say now doesn't matter?
They simply do not care. But I would also tell
you Elon Musk is interesting to me, not just an
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interesting is not even nearly a powerful enough word. He
is momentous enough. I've told you that Trump is a
figure of destiny. Now Elon Musk is also a figure
of destiny. Now at this point in humanity and in
the history of our species, what he is doing technologically
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is he changing the world. And he deserves tremendous credit
for that. He is the richest or second richest, depending
on the stock price man in the world, self made
to get there as well. It's not like he inherited,
you know, the Carnegie or Rockefeller fortune or something back
in the day. He's the richest man in the world,
self made. But also he is so dangerous to the
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left because he comes from a perspective back of having
been truly red pilled, of having seen the light, having
been far more open to and favorable to the ideology
of the left. But then reality hit. And in this specifically,
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I'm reminded of a few moments from Elon's past. I mean,
for one thing, this was back in twenty twenty one
on the Babylon Bee, which does great work Babylon Beat podcast.
He sat down with Seth Del and he gave one
This is I think one of the most important quotes
he's ever said, and it of course aligns so much
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with Trump and trump Ism and the Maga movement. This
is what Elon said about the ideology of a left,
which is wokeness in shorthand play clip this is cut two.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Like wokeness basically wants to make comedy illegal, which is
not cool. At its heart, a wokness is divisive, exclusionary,
and hateful. It basically gives mean people a shield to
be mean and cruel, armored and false virtue.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
It gives mean people a shield to be mean and
cruel armored. In false virtue. Doesn't that remind you of
every leftist you know who just says and believes all
these things, and it is nasty. Is nasty celebrates when
people who disagre them politically have bad things happen to them, celebrates.
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I mean, they're you know, there were there were some
popular leftists and I almost hesitate to bring this up
on the air because it's so grotesque, but I do
think you need to know about this. I will not
name them because I don't want to give them but
there was a prominent YouTuber who not only was celebrating
the assassination attempt on Donald Trump, but was on video
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laughing about the Trump supporter who was killed, and was
pressed on this and kept going and saying, yeah, that's
what people deserve, that's what people who support Donald Trump deserve.
I mean, it's horrific, evil, demonic stuff, demonic mindset, but
that's the woke mind virus. It takes over. It actually
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strips you of your humanity and convinces you that you
are the most humane at the same time, it's very dangerous. Oh,
by the way, this is also communism, same thing, same
processes in the mind and elon also blames rightly, so
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the progressive leftist ideology of the moment for the loss,
as he puts it, of his son. Now, I'll come
back and address that in a moment, but I think
that an Elon Trump or a Trump Elon alliance, which
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was what was on display last night, and he says,
he clearly came out and said Donald Trump should win
this election. Kamala Harris and I'm going to get into
some of this. This is the stuff of Democrat nightmares
and we need more of this. We need people who
are enormously successful and brilliant and formerly of a Democrat
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or left of center mindset to come forward and just
say we have to reject this psychological cancer that is wokeism,
Democrat party dogma. It is Democrat Party dogmite. It's not
a fringe belief for the Democrat Party. And Harris and
Walls are all about it. They subscribe to the whole thing.
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So we will get into some of this and more
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Speaker 1 (14:34):
A billion views, a billion views on the X platform
of it. I listen to every word of it. It's
Trump being Trump. It's fantastic stuff, well worth your time.
I mean the topics that were covered everything from the
attempted assassination of Trump, which media doesn't seem to talk
about it very much anymore do they, to the wide
open border legal immigration, the threat to Western civilization that opposes,
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the Democrat coup against Biden, Ukraine, North Korea, and the
Harris Walls ticket. I mean, they cover all of it
in that hour and change conversation. I forget how long
exactly it was, but it's well worth your listen. But
elon Musk in moments, you can see how he has
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come to where he is ideologically. Now you all know
I'm a Tom Clancy fan, and that I I would
suppose I could say honor the now departed Tom Clancy
deceased Tom Clancy and Michael Crichton as the two authors
that got me into loving reading at a very young age.
I love Tom Clancy books, probably why I joined the CIA.
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Started reading about the CIA. No one I knew was
ever in the Cia Tom Clancy books and also Michael
Crichton books. I just thought were the best when I was,
you know, fourth, fifth, sixth grade. I know it's pretty good.
I don't know if that's young to read those books,
but I love those books and that's when I was
reading them. But you will know the character Ramius from
The Hunt for Red October. Why does Randy as turn
on the Soviet Union. Well, if you remember, something happened
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to his wife, that Soviet medical care, and that was it.
He was done, and Ramius was an avenger, a nemesis
really against the Soviet Union. Elon Musk has turned into
something like that, against wokeness, and it's because of what
they did to his son. He talked about this in July,
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just last July, a month ago, about how his son
is dead because of wokeness. Those were his words. Listen
to what he had to say.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
It wasn't explained to me that puberty blocks are actually
just sterilization drugs. So anyway, and so I lost my
son essentially. So you know they they quote dead naming
for a reason. Yeah, So the reason it's quote dead
naming is because your son is dead. So my son
is Xavier is dead, killed by the woke mind virus.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
He's a father who lost a son in essence to
the woke line virus. He is rightly furious about this,
and it is personal for him. You know, the same
way that a lot of the best and most devoted
fighters for freedom that we have in this country fled
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the horrors of totalitarian communism, whether it's the Soviet Bloc
or Cuba or now Venezuela. People fleeing the Khmer Rouge
and Cambodia, and they've experienced the evil and they will
do anything to stop it. Elon Musk, the richest man
in the world, has experienced the evil of the ideology
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that Harris and Walls represent, and he is allied with
Trump to stop it. It is very powerful. We'll get
into some of the conversations, some of the policy points
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Clay's out this week on vacation celebrating is twenty with
his wonderful wife Laura. So I think after twenty years
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he deserves a week off. So he'll be back on Monday,
and I'm a solo this week, so let's get back
into it. We have, uh, the Elon and Trump conversation,
which I thought was so important I got into as
a platform and as an ideological alliance. I mean, the
really the single most visionary and important CEO and and
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technology technology, I don't even know what what you could
really call him. I mean impresario, I mean technology between there,
there's there's you gotta remember SpaceX, the boring company, which
is going to drill tunnels so that we can create
like super high speed rail under ground stuff like that,
you know, a hyperlink, hyper loop, all these cool things.
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There's obviously Tesla, so you have SpaceX, Boring, Tesla and
X as well as other things. And also Ai. I mean,
he's just he's doing amazing stuff, and I'm I'm trying
to just be real when it comes to what an
impact he's having that he is all in for Trump,
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not kind of sort of maybe all in for Trump
said it last night, has said it before, should be
you know, ringing some alarm bells for the for the
You know, I talk so much about non college educated whites.
Why are non college educated? Why it's such an important
Trump constituency? Why does he win them? And why can
they deliver the election for him? Well, because they tend
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to be just reality based in their thinking, because they
haven't been through the propaganda machine that not just white
but all people who go through college these days and
for in recent decades goes through. So they tend to
view the world as this is real, this is not,
this is happening, this is not. They're affected by bad
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economic policy, they feel the effects of it because they're
not in some cushy corporate job where you know, the
day to day expenses don't matter. So they're an I mean,
they're a Trump constituency and the most important one I
think to deliver this election for him. But college educated everybody, why, Black, Asian, Latino?
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I would hope they would take a moment. Those who
are of the Biden leaning, I mean, if you're all
in on Biden, nothing's going to change your mind. I
get that. But if you're Biden leaning but open to reality,
what's going on with Elon Musk? Why is Elon musk
As I, you know, kind of having his Ramius moment here,
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defecting with a nuclear submarine in this case X from
the Soviet Union, in this case the Democrat Party. What's
going on here? Why is Elon all in on Trump? Well?
That was I think that conversation last night was also
so important for people to hear. If you live in
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a world where results matter, you would want a Trump
presidency over a Kamala Harris presidency, the results being a secure, prosperous,
free America or the freest and most secure and prosperous
that we could reasonably get through the actions of an administration.
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So I think all of that is very important. And
there were also some very Trump moments. Can you imagine
Kamala Harris just an hour talking to somebody, and I
guarantee you there would be something she would say that
would make everyone, including the most hard line commissars of
the Democrat Party go womp, like that is not good.
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We're gonna have to clean up that mess tomorrow. And
that's just matters usually of style. I mean, if you
look at Kamala's substance, I don't even know what the
substance is they're not even pretending she has any substance
on policy. No one even knows. I'm gonna bring on
my friend Bridge Colby tomorrow. We're gonna talk foreign policy, Trump,
foreign policy, the Iran stuff with Israel going on right now.
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But also what do they even tell us, Like what's
Kamala Harris gonna do in Ukraine? I don't know? Do
you know? Nobody knows? Well, she's gonna do whatever the
Democrat machine around her tells her. But she should have
to take a position, right. No, this is going to
be the first presidential election in our lifetime where the
Democrats are telling you vote for this person. You don't
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need to know what she believes. That's what they're saying.
You don't need to know what she stands for. Trump
had some great, some great moments on this. First of all,
he's not letting the whole Biden fiasco go. The same
media that is telling you Kamala is brilliant and amazing
now was telling you two mon months ago Joe Biden
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is sharp as attack. Joe Scarborough, without a hint of
irony or shame, said what a few months ago that
Joe Biden's the sharpest he has ever been. Joe Biden
has dementia. Everybody, even the Democrats, admit it now, and
we've all known it the whole time. They will lie
to you about anything, and it doesn't matter how obvious
it is. They're just trying to make this a propaganda election.
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There's no persuasion, there's just brainwashing. Trump said this about Biden.
This has cut seven. I thought this was a good
Trump moment.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Biden started saying such stupid things. For instance, he said
that it can be a NATO country now put Russia.
For for as long as there's been NATO has said,
we're never going to agree to that. And we go
right up front and say that, and we did things
and said things through this president with a low IQ,
very low IQ. He had a low IQ thirty years ago,
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by the way, but now he might not even have
a IQ at all.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
There is no there's nothing on the board that goes
as low.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
He said things that were so stupid that that war
had zero chance of happening. If I were there, zero chance.
He was saying everything the opposite.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Biden's IQ was always low, but he may not even
have an IQ anymore. I mean, there's some obvious truth
to that Joe Biden is somebody. They made him president.
Democrats used to used to sneer more behind closed doors,
but sometimes on air about how stupid Joe Biden was,
and everybody knew it. Not a smart guy, just the
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the ultimate blowhard, just a bombastic ball of hot air,
and they made him president. So I also realized that
if they can do that with Biden, they think they
can do it with Kamala. Harris, I'm not naive about
this at all. I did mention I wanted to let
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you hear from Elon himself. It's not It's not that
Elon is open to voting for Trump. He is all
in on Trump, not just as the right choice, but
a vote for Trump is necessary to avert disaster and
pain for the whole country, including all the psychodemocrats running around.
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A vote for Trump is necessary to avoid that. Here
he is on Trump versus Kamala and the path of prosperity.
This has cut eight.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
America is kind of at a folk in the road,
and and I think it will take It will take
the path like your other path to prosperity, and I
think Kamala is the opposite.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Then that's my I mean, that's my his opinion. I'm
gonna I'm gonna get attacked like crazy.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
And you know, I've also experienced quite a bit of
lawffair myself, and but I'm just trying to tell people
my honest opinion. And I haven't been active and really
active in politics before, and I'm just trying to point
out that my track record historically has been moderate, if
not moderate slightly. And so this is the people out
there who are in the moderate camp to say, I
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think you should support Donald Trump for president. And I
think it's actually a very important junction in the road,
and we're deep travel if if it goes the other way.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
The richest guy in the world, who is better at
sending rockets into outer space than NASA buy a lot,
by the way, who has created a global system of
satellite low orbit satellites that can provide Internet basically anywhere
on the planet, who has revolutionized the electric car market
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and created a company that is worth more than all
the rest of the American auto industry combined. At least
that's I believe that's accurate. And I'm not even getting
anything the other and who spent forty billion dollars to
finally give us one free speech digital social media platform. Yes,
I'm here the House that rush bill. This is a
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free speech platform. This is an unsingable aircraft carrier that
rushed forge together over decades with his voice. But social
media is a different game, right, social media is not radio,
and the only social media platform with full spectrum reach.
I know there's truth, and I respect what they're doing.
I know that there's rumble, and I respect what they're doing.
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But the only one that is at that same level
being worth tens of billions, if not hundreds of billions
of dollars in value, is X. And that guy is
telling you, and he's not a lifelong Republican, quite the opposite.
He's probably a center left guy. He is saying, a
vote for Kammally is disastrous. Kamala Harris will harm the
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economy and will harm the country. And this is after
four years of Trump, four years of Biden Harris. This
is a guy who looks at the results. He's in
a results driven world. He does things that other people
say are not possible and has succeeded kind of like Trump. Right,
do you see there's these two guys. There's a respect
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and a familiarity and a warmth between them. And you know,
you know, one can sound a little weird. I get
that he's he's a little he's a little unusual, a
little eccentric, I mean, and Trump is incredibly charismatic, but
I think he's also a little eccentric. He's got his
own you know, probably a little bit. He's got his
He's not like every guy you'd meet, right, I mean,
he's a political phenomenon, and he's probably the most recognizable
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human brand on the planet and and you know, well
valuable as a whole other conversation. But these two guys
sit down together and everything they say makes sense, and
everything they say aligns with a reality based view of
America and the world that we live in. And it's
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a choice is just so clear. And this is what
brings me back to if Kama wins a selection, we're
an un serious country. We have to do some real
soul searching. That's why Trump's gonna win, because I still
have faith in America. I have faith in Trump, and
I have faith in America. And there's also some data
coming out to suggest that the Buckster being stalwart on
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this one not gonna, not gonna look not gonna look
foolish in retrospect. This is Buck Island has emerged elsewhere
in the sea, and come come join me on Buck Island,
which is a very broad place or a very big
place right now, a lot of acreage. Trump is gonna win.
Keep the faith and Trump is gonna win. Look, summers
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are the busiest time of year, particularly if you're somebody
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I'm building a bench for like bench press. I'm not
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gonna lie. I'm not like the best guy at these things,
but I have energy to do it. I have energy
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Speaker 6 (33:19):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (33:19):
Not a lot? How are you?
Speaker 1 (33:21):
I'm good man. Thanks for calling in. What's up? What's
on your mind?
Speaker 7 (33:24):
It was my first time caller. But look, everyone talks about, uh,
the eccentricies of the wealthy people, but the one thing
that they always believe in is meritocracy. If they hire
you and you do the work, they expect you to
get the reward. And I think that's one of the
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common factors that that Donald Trump and you know Elon mush.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Chair, Well, it's definitely true of It's definitely true of
Elon and of Trump, and they believe, you know, they're
winners who want to be surrounded by winners. Thank you
for calling in, Tom. I think this is a very important,
very important lesson for life. And I've heard a lot
of I've known some incredibly successful people and talk to
them about this. And you can listen to all these
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leadership and CEO podcasts and all this stuff that's out there,
and I'll just help you skip to the end here
and give you one of the biggest takeaways. Winners want
to be surrounded by winners. And you know, that doesn't
mean you can't help people and lift them up and
be a great leader of those who need. You know,
being a great leader means you're going to help those
who stumble or those who need guidance, of course, but
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when push comes a shove, if you're building a team
that you want to be excellent, or you're building a
company or a movement that you want to represent excellence,
you need excellent people. And this is why there's always
this tension with Democrats with anything that is based on
a meritocracy. And you could say, oh, but what about
all those billionaire democrats. You know, what about the idiot
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democrats who have so much money who believe in all
this leftist stuff. A lot of it is that they
feel guilty about having so much money. A lot of
it is they have competency in one area of life
and are really lacking in many others, which is possible
in the modern economy we have. You know, you can
be really good at numbers and make a lot of
money as a hedge fund guy or something, but be
an absolute abject moron when it comes to human nature, politics,
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and history. There's plenty of that. I mean not to
be mean looking. Mark Cuban. Guy's not very smart. He's a
multi multi billionaire. He's not a bright guy. David and Jacksonville, Florida.
What's going on, David.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
I'm so proud of you guys running the show, so
thank you you Rush in nineteen eighty eight and listen
to him for over thirty years. But you guys are
doing a great job with it. And I'm really proud
that Elon is going to jump on the Trump bandwagon.
I hope that's going to really help. It's great to
see someone who has sort of left us come into
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some common sense and doing what's right by backing him.
And you know, one thing that the Democrats did, I
think they dug their great with this election when they
alienated our FK Junior, Because if they had let him
run against Biden, I think he would have beat Biden
in a primary, and I think there would have been
enough of the independence and even some Republicans that would
(36:14):
have jumped over and voted for him on the Democratic side.
So I think if you look at it, he probably
could have beat Donald Trump in the national election. But
I'm glad they didn't get him on board because I
think there would be more trouble than Kamalae is.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Appreciate the call. Don't share your assessment of Rfk's viability
at the national level, but reach his own. And it's
certainly a analysis that some people are going to agree with.
But thank you for your kind Wordsbo. What we're doing
on the show. We'll see what RK Junior does in
this election, and we're hoping to have him on the
show soon, but we definitely have Glenn beck On coming up.
Welcome everybody. Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis en Buck
Sexton Show kicks off right now. We are racked, stacked
and packed, my friends. Glenn back to the Man himself
will be joining us second hour, talk to us about
everything going on, and he has quite an eye for
the future as well, so we'll ask him where things
(00:21):
are going. We've also got Eric Hovedy running for that
critical seat in Wisconsin, that Senate battle. He'll be joining
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be a gut punch for Senate Democrats. We are certainly
hoping he can pull that one off in the Badger State.
Would also be a great indicator of how things are
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So we've got two phenomenal guests and a lot of
things to dive into today. As you know, we are
just is it eighty three days now? The math is
going to escape me, but something like that eighty plus
(01:03):
days from election day, early voting starting in a matter
of weeks, not months, we are in the thick of it.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Usually August is a time when you know you can
sort of just sit around and just talk about whatever
and there's not a lot of news. There's a lot
of news right now. A lot of things are happening.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
First off, the Elon factor, the Elon phenomenon. I like
Elon phenomenon better. I think that came into view last
night with the sit down that Donald Trump did with
Elon Musk on X. I'm gonna dive into that. The
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media's controversial, Well, that's not even controversial because we expect it, right,
I guess the media is absurd, absurd thrown shining for
Biden and for Kamala and for the Democrats doing everything
they can to make this administration look like something less
(02:03):
of a disaster than it is. The Kamala campaign has
put out a response to the Elon Trump sit down.
So let me dive into that. Let me get into
that first and foremost, because one of the things that
I've been saying to you that factors into my optimism
(02:26):
for Trump and the Republicans in this election is that
we learned some lessons in twenty twenty and some things
have changed. Notably, twenty twenty was the absolute high water
mark of online digital censorship. Of online authoritarianism, particularly with
the dominant social media platforms, which when it comes to news,
(02:51):
are the single, you know, decider of what is in
the news cycle. I mean, the social media platforms are
pushing more information out there by far than what you
can get from any one of these other news websites
that have been around, or these newspapers. Even some people
still read. The newspaper has been around for a long time.
(03:13):
So we have Elon buying Twitter. It is no longer
one of the authoritarian tools of the Democrat Party and
of the left. It is a free speech platform, or
a platform at least that adheres to the principles of
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free speech. And Trump sat down with him. Now, there
were some tech issues to get it started, and that
is unfortunate. It took a little while to get going.
But when you have that many people that want to
hear a conversation, the technology can be stressed a little bit.
And if anyone's going to get that fixed, I'm sure
it is Elon himself. He has since put out that
(03:54):
the discussion with him and Trump, in terms of view
oz is at the billion mark, a billion with a B.
This was a conversation A lot of people wanted to hear.
It wasn't a formal interview. And by the way, I
like that Elon set it up this way. I like
(04:15):
that Elon said, I just want to talk to Donald
Trump as a person about things that matter. I'm not
here pretending to be a journalist. I'm not here pretending
that I have some pseudo objective approach to getting the
information that's honesty. Well, I'm just gonna talk to this
(04:37):
guy about I'm gonna share my opinions, He's gonna share
his opinions. We're having a conversation essentially like a podcast
on X in real time, and there's some very interesting
things that were said. I'm gonna dive into some of
those here. Of course, as this is happening, the toadies
of the Walls of the Harris Walls campaign in immediately
(05:01):
started attacking this. They started saying, you know, this is
like an kind donation to the Trump campaign from Elon.
Guess what Elon has already said, Kamala Harris is welcome,
welcome to get on this platform, and he will host
a spaces with her as well, which is a live conversation.
(05:23):
It's like a stream on X that I even can
listen into I'm telling you. I mean X is for
social media platforms, the future of news and communication. I
think so. I've been a believer in it all along.
I know there have been some challenges Elon has taken
along the way, but he's the only man on the
planet who was going to do this, and it has
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had an enormous positive effect in online communication and also
in American politics specifically because they had a stranglehold on us.
I mean, yeah, this show, Talk Radio, Fox News. There
are a number of platforms, but if you add all
the liberal media platforms out there, the news shows and
(06:05):
everything else, CBS, ABCNBC, CNN, MSNBC, New York Times, LA Times,
Washington Post, you add all this up, and then you
add to it Google, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter. We were just
completely outgunned. We're still a little outgunned, pretty utgunned, but
at least we can fight back in one place online.
(06:29):
It is very important. A lot of people believe that
if Twitter and Facebook had not suppressed the Hunter Biden
laptop story, because it was so gross and showed just
the the sliminess of the Biden family at a time
when Biden was promising to restore decency and unity to
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the White House. It might have cost them the election.
You can't convince me that it wouldn't have swayed ten
thousand votes here, fifteen thousand votes there if that story
had gotten the cover that it deserved, which was of
Biden family influence peddling to US adversaries and enemies. That
was the real story that they were able to suppress
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when they had full control of Twitter. But Elon has
changed all that. Will Kamala Harris sit down with Elon Musk?
The answer is no, she will not do it. And
I would say that she's a coward, but that's actually
not the right word. It's not that Kamala isn't brave
enough to do this. Honestly, she is not dumb enough
(07:33):
to show everyone how dumb she really is. And so
that's where this that's where this all comes together. She
knows she has to hide from the American people as
much as she possibly can. She has to hide her
absolutely absurd policy ideas of the past, which the media
now says, oh, she doesn't believe that anymore, Well why,
(07:53):
and says who? Kamala doesn't seem to address these things.
It's just spokespersons talking through the filter of the media.
Oh yeah, No, you can't attack her on that anymore
because she doesn't believe that. If you will believe the
media right now, Kamala doesn't believe anything on policy that
she said four years ago that is of particular interest
(08:18):
to the middle of the electorate. Now, isn't that so interesting?
Anything that could be problematic for her to fool people
is suddenly just cast aside. You say, wait, but she
said it, then what does she say now doesn't matter?
They simply do not care. But I would also tell
you Elon Musk is interesting to me, not just an
(08:39):
interesting is not even nearly a powerful enough word. He
is momentous enough. I've told you that Trump is a
figure of destiny. Now Elon Musk is also a figure
of destiny. Now at this point in humanity and in
the history of our species, what he is doing technologically
(08:59):
is he changing the world. And he deserves tremendous credit
for that. He is the richest or second richest, depending
on the stock price man in the world, self made
to get there as well. It's not like he inherited,
you know, the Carnegie or Rockefeller fortune or something back
in the day. He's the richest man in the world,
self made. But also he is so dangerous to the
(09:23):
left because he comes from a perspective back of having
been truly red pilled, of having seen the light, having
been far more open to and favorable to the ideology
of the left. But then reality hit. And in this specifically,
(09:45):
I'm reminded of a few moments from Elon's past. I mean,
for one thing, this was back in twenty twenty one
on the Babylon Bee, which does great work Babylon Beat podcast.
He sat down with Seth Del and he gave one
This is I think one of the most important quotes
he's ever said, and it of course aligns so much
(10:07):
with Trump and trump Ism and the Maga movement. This
is what Elon said about the ideology of a left,
which is wokeness in shorthand play clip this is cut two.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Like wokeness basically wants to make comedy illegal, which is
not cool. At its heart, a wokness is divisive, exclusionary,
and hateful. It basically gives mean people a shield to
be mean and cruel, armored and false virtue.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
It gives mean people a shield to be mean and
cruel armored. In false virtue. Doesn't that remind you of
every leftist you know who just says and believes all
these things, and it is nasty. Is nasty celebrates when
people who disagre them politically have bad things happen to them, celebrates.
(11:03):
I mean, they're you know, there were there were some
popular leftists and I almost hesitate to bring this up
on the air because it's so grotesque, but I do
think you need to know about this. I will not
name them because I don't want to give them but
there was a prominent YouTuber who not only was celebrating
the assassination attempt on Donald Trump, but was on video
(11:23):
laughing about the Trump supporter who was killed, and was
pressed on this and kept going and saying, yeah, that's
what people deserve, that's what people who support Donald Trump deserve.
I mean, it's horrific, evil, demonic stuff, demonic mindset, but
that's the woke mind virus. It takes over. It actually
(11:45):
strips you of your humanity and convinces you that you
are the most humane at the same time, it's very dangerous. Oh,
by the way, this is also communism, same thing, same
processes in the mind and elon also blames rightly, so
(12:05):
the progressive leftist ideology of the moment for the loss,
as he puts it, of his son. Now, I'll come
back and address that in a moment, but I think
that an Elon Trump or a Trump Elon alliance, which
(12:26):
was what was on display last night, and he says,
he clearly came out and said Donald Trump should win
this election. Kamala Harris and I'm going to get into
some of this. This is the stuff of Democrat nightmares
and we need more of this. We need people who
are enormously successful and brilliant and formerly of a Democrat
(12:49):
or left of center mindset to come forward and just
say we have to reject this psychological cancer that is wokeism,
Democrat party dogma. It is Democrat Party dogmite. It's not
a fringe belief for the Democrat Party. And Harris and
Walls are all about it. They subscribe to the whole thing.
(13:11):
So we will get into some of this and more
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Speaker 1 (14:34):
A billion views, a billion views on the X platform
of it. I listen to every word of it. It's
Trump being Trump. It's fantastic stuff, well worth your time.
I mean the topics that were covered everything from the
attempted assassination of Trump, which media doesn't seem to talk
about it very much anymore do they, to the wide
open border legal immigration, the threat to Western civilization that opposes,
(14:58):
the Democrat coup against Biden, Ukraine, North Korea, and the
Harris Walls ticket. I mean, they cover all of it
in that hour and change conversation. I forget how long
exactly it was, but it's well worth your listen. But
elon Musk in moments, you can see how he has
(15:19):
come to where he is ideologically. Now you all know
I'm a Tom Clancy fan, and that I I would
suppose I could say honor the now departed Tom Clancy
deceased Tom Clancy and Michael Crichton as the two authors
that got me into loving reading at a very young age.
I love Tom Clancy books, probably why I joined the CIA.
(15:42):
Started reading about the CIA. No one I knew was
ever in the Cia Tom Clancy books and also Michael
Crichton books. I just thought were the best when I was,
you know, fourth, fifth, sixth grade. I know it's pretty good.
I don't know if that's young to read those books,
but I love those books and that's when I was
reading them. But you will know the character Ramius from
The Hunt for Red October. Why does Randy as turn
on the Soviet Union. Well, if you remember, something happened
(16:03):
to his wife, that Soviet medical care, and that was it.
He was done, and Ramius was an avenger, a nemesis
really against the Soviet Union. Elon Musk has turned into
something like that, against wokeness, and it's because of what
they did to his son. He talked about this in July,
(16:25):
just last July, a month ago, about how his son
is dead because of wokeness. Those were his words. Listen
to what he had to say.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
It wasn't explained to me that puberty blocks are actually
just sterilization drugs. So anyway, and so I lost my
son essentially. So you know they they quote dead naming
for a reason. Yeah, So the reason it's quote dead
naming is because your son is dead. So my son
is Xavier is dead, killed by the woke mind virus.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
He's a father who lost a son in essence to
the woke line virus. He is rightly furious about this,
and it is personal for him. You know, the same
way that a lot of the best and most devoted
fighters for freedom that we have in this country fled
(17:18):
the horrors of totalitarian communism, whether it's the Soviet Bloc
or Cuba or now Venezuela. People fleeing the Khmer Rouge
and Cambodia, and they've experienced the evil and they will
do anything to stop it. Elon Musk, the richest man
in the world, has experienced the evil of the ideology
(17:38):
that Harris and Walls represent, and he is allied with
Trump to stop it. It is very powerful. We'll get
into some of the conversations, some of the policy points
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Clay's out this week on vacation celebrating is twenty with
his wonderful wife Laura. So I think after twenty years
(19:05):
he deserves a week off. So he'll be back on Monday,
and I'm a solo this week, so let's get back
into it. We have, uh, the Elon and Trump conversation,
which I thought was so important I got into as
a platform and as an ideological alliance. I mean, the
really the single most visionary and important CEO and and
(19:33):
technology technology, I don't even know what what you could
really call him. I mean impresario, I mean technology between there,
there's there's you gotta remember SpaceX, the boring company, which
is going to drill tunnels so that we can create
like super high speed rail under ground stuff like that,
you know, a hyperlink, hyper loop, all these cool things.
(19:57):
There's obviously Tesla, so you have SpaceX, Boring, Tesla and
X as well as other things. And also Ai. I mean,
he's just he's doing amazing stuff, and I'm I'm trying
to just be real when it comes to what an
impact he's having that he is all in for Trump,
(20:20):
not kind of sort of maybe all in for Trump
said it last night, has said it before, should be
you know, ringing some alarm bells for the for the
You know, I talk so much about non college educated whites.
Why are non college educated? Why it's such an important
Trump constituency? Why does he win them? And why can
they deliver the election for him? Well, because they tend
(20:42):
to be just reality based in their thinking, because they
haven't been through the propaganda machine that not just white
but all people who go through college these days and
for in recent decades goes through. So they tend to
view the world as this is real, this is not,
this is happening, this is not. They're affected by bad
(21:04):
economic policy, they feel the effects of it because they're
not in some cushy corporate job where you know, the
day to day expenses don't matter. So they're an I mean,
they're a Trump constituency and the most important one I
think to deliver this election for him. But college educated everybody, why, Black, Asian, Latino?
(21:26):
I would hope they would take a moment. Those who
are of the Biden leaning, I mean, if you're all
in on Biden, nothing's going to change your mind. I
get that. But if you're Biden leaning but open to reality,
what's going on with Elon Musk? Why is Elon musk
As I, you know, kind of having his Ramius moment here,
(21:46):
defecting with a nuclear submarine in this case X from
the Soviet Union, in this case the Democrat Party. What's
going on here? Why is Elon all in on Trump? Well?
That was I think that conversation last night was also
so important for people to hear. If you live in
(22:06):
a world where results matter, you would want a Trump
presidency over a Kamala Harris presidency, the results being a secure, prosperous,
free America or the freest and most secure and prosperous
that we could reasonably get through the actions of an administration.
(22:28):
So I think all of that is very important. And
there were also some very Trump moments. Can you imagine
Kamala Harris just an hour talking to somebody, and I
guarantee you there would be something she would say that
would make everyone, including the most hard line commissars of
the Democrat Party go womp, like that is not good.
(22:51):
We're gonna have to clean up that mess tomorrow. And
that's just matters usually of style. I mean, if you
look at Kamala's substance, I don't even know what the
substance is they're not even pretending she has any substance
on policy. No one even knows. I'm gonna bring on
my friend Bridge Colby tomorrow. We're gonna talk foreign policy, Trump,
foreign policy, the Iran stuff with Israel going on right now.
(23:15):
But also what do they even tell us, Like what's
Kamala Harris gonna do in Ukraine? I don't know? Do
you know? Nobody knows? Well, she's gonna do whatever the
Democrat machine around her tells her. But she should have
to take a position, right. No, this is going to
be the first presidential election in our lifetime where the
Democrats are telling you vote for this person. You don't
(23:38):
need to know what she believes. That's what they're saying.
You don't need to know what she stands for. Trump
had some great, some great moments on this. First of all,
he's not letting the whole Biden fiasco go. The same
media that is telling you Kamala is brilliant and amazing
now was telling you two mon months ago Joe Biden
(24:02):
is sharp as attack. Joe Scarborough, without a hint of
irony or shame, said what a few months ago that
Joe Biden's the sharpest he has ever been. Joe Biden
has dementia. Everybody, even the Democrats, admit it now, and
we've all known it the whole time. They will lie
to you about anything, and it doesn't matter how obvious
it is. They're just trying to make this a propaganda election.
(24:26):
There's no persuasion, there's just brainwashing. Trump said this about Biden.
This has cut seven. I thought this was a good
Trump moment.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Biden started saying such stupid things. For instance, he said
that it can be a NATO country now put Russia.
For for as long as there's been NATO has said,
we're never going to agree to that. And we go
right up front and say that, and we did things
and said things through this president with a low IQ,
very low IQ. He had a low IQ thirty years ago,
(24:56):
by the way, but now he might not even have
a IQ at all.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
There is no there's nothing on the board that goes
as low.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
He said things that were so stupid that that war
had zero chance of happening. If I were there, zero chance.
He was saying everything the opposite.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Biden's IQ was always low, but he may not even
have an IQ anymore. I mean, there's some obvious truth
to that Joe Biden is somebody. They made him president.
Democrats used to used to sneer more behind closed doors,
but sometimes on air about how stupid Joe Biden was,
and everybody knew it. Not a smart guy, just the
(25:36):
the ultimate blowhard, just a bombastic ball of hot air,
and they made him president. So I also realized that
if they can do that with Biden, they think they
can do it with Kamala. Harris, I'm not naive about
this at all. I did mention I wanted to let
(25:58):
you hear from Elon himself. It's not It's not that
Elon is open to voting for Trump. He is all
in on Trump, not just as the right choice, but
a vote for Trump is necessary to avert disaster and
pain for the whole country, including all the psychodemocrats running around.
(26:20):
A vote for Trump is necessary to avoid that. Here
he is on Trump versus Kamala and the path of prosperity.
This has cut eight.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
America is kind of at a folk in the road,
and and I think it will take It will take
the path like your other path to prosperity, and I
think Kamala is the opposite.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Then that's my I mean, that's my his opinion. I'm
gonna I'm gonna get attacked like crazy.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
And you know, I've also experienced quite a bit of
lawffair myself, and but I'm just trying to tell people
my honest opinion. And I haven't been active and really
active in politics before, and I'm just trying to point
out that my track record historically has been moderate, if
not moderate slightly. And so this is the people out
there who are in the moderate camp to say, I
(27:04):
think you should support Donald Trump for president. And I
think it's actually a very important junction in the road,
and we're deep travel if if it goes the other way.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
The richest guy in the world, who is better at
sending rockets into outer space than NASA buy a lot,
by the way, who has created a global system of
satellite low orbit satellites that can provide Internet basically anywhere
on the planet, who has revolutionized the electric car market
(27:40):
and created a company that is worth more than all
the rest of the American auto industry combined. At least
that's I believe that's accurate. And I'm not even getting
anything the other and who spent forty billion dollars to
finally give us one free speech digital social media platform. Yes,
I'm here the House that rush bill. This is a
(28:00):
free speech platform. This is an unsingable aircraft carrier that
rushed forge together over decades with his voice. But social
media is a different game, right, social media is not radio,
and the only social media platform with full spectrum reach.
I know there's truth, and I respect what they're doing.
I know that there's rumble, and I respect what they're doing.
(28:21):
But the only one that is at that same level
being worth tens of billions, if not hundreds of billions
of dollars in value, is X. And that guy is
telling you, and he's not a lifelong Republican, quite the opposite.
He's probably a center left guy. He is saying, a
vote for Kammally is disastrous. Kamala Harris will harm the
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economy and will harm the country. And this is after
four years of Trump, four years of Biden Harris. This
is a guy who looks at the results. He's in
a results driven world. He does things that other people
say are not possible and has succeeded kind of like Trump. Right,
do you see there's these two guys. There's a respect
(29:09):
and a familiarity and a warmth between them. And you know,
you know, one can sound a little weird. I get
that he's he's a little he's a little unusual, a
little eccentric, I mean, and Trump is incredibly charismatic, but
I think he's also a little eccentric. He's got his
own you know, probably a little bit. He's got his
He's not like every guy you'd meet, right, I mean,
he's a political phenomenon, and he's probably the most recognizable
(29:33):
human brand on the planet and and you know, well
valuable as a whole other conversation. But these two guys
sit down together and everything they say makes sense, and
everything they say aligns with a reality based view of
America and the world that we live in. And it's
(29:53):
a choice is just so clear. And this is what
brings me back to if Kama wins a selection, we're
an un serious country. We have to do some real
soul searching. That's why Trump's gonna win, because I still
have faith in America. I have faith in Trump, and
I have faith in America. And there's also some data
coming out to suggest that the Buckster being stalwart on
(30:14):
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Speaker 6 (33:19):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (33:19):
Not a lot? How are you?
Speaker 1 (33:21):
I'm good man. Thanks for calling in. What's up? What's
on your mind?
Speaker 7 (33:24):
It was my first time caller. But look, everyone talks about, uh,
the eccentricies of the wealthy people, but the one thing
that they always believe in is meritocracy. If they hire
you and you do the work, they expect you to
get the reward. And I think that's one of the
(33:46):
common factors that that Donald Trump and you know Elon mush.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Chair, Well, it's definitely true of It's definitely true of
Elon and of Trump, and they believe, you know, they're
winners who want to be surrounded by winners. Thank you
for calling in, Tom. I think this is a very important,
very important lesson for life. And I've heard a lot
of I've known some incredibly successful people and talk to
them about this. And you can listen to all these
(34:12):
leadership and CEO podcasts and all this stuff that's out there,
and I'll just help you skip to the end here
and give you one of the biggest takeaways. Winners want
to be surrounded by winners. And you know, that doesn't
mean you can't help people and lift them up and
be a great leader of those who need. You know,
being a great leader means you're going to help those
who stumble or those who need guidance, of course, but
(34:35):
when push comes a shove, if you're building a team
that you want to be excellent, or you're building a
company or a movement that you want to represent excellence,
you need excellent people. And this is why there's always
this tension with Democrats with anything that is based on
a meritocracy. And you could say, oh, but what about
all those billionaire democrats. You know, what about the idiot
(34:57):
democrats who have so much money who believe in all
this leftist stuff. A lot of it is that they
feel guilty about having so much money. A lot of
it is they have competency in one area of life
and are really lacking in many others, which is possible
in the modern economy we have. You know, you can
be really good at numbers and make a lot of
money as a hedge fund guy or something, but be
an absolute abject moron when it comes to human nature, politics,
(35:20):
and history. There's plenty of that. I mean not to
be mean looking. Mark Cuban. Guy's not very smart. He's a
multi multi billionaire. He's not a bright guy. David and Jacksonville, Florida.
What's going on, David.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
I'm so proud of you guys running the show, so
thank you you Rush in nineteen eighty eight and listen
to him for over thirty years. But you guys are
doing a great job with it. And I'm really proud
that Elon is going to jump on the Trump bandwagon.
I hope that's going to really help. It's great to
see someone who has sort of left us come into
(35:52):
some common sense and doing what's right by backing him.
And you know, one thing that the Democrats did, I
think they dug their great with this election when they
alienated our FK Junior, Because if they had let him
run against Biden, I think he would have beat Biden
in a primary, and I think there would have been
enough of the independence and even some Republicans that would
(36:14):
have jumped over and voted for him on the Democratic side.
So I think if you look at it, he probably
could have beat Donald Trump in the national election. But
I'm glad they didn't get him on board because I
think there would be more trouble than Kamalae is.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Appreciate the call. Don't share your assessment of Rfk's viability
at the national level, but reach his own. And it's
certainly a analysis that some people are going to agree with.
But thank you for your kind Wordsbo. What we're doing
on the show. We'll see what RK Junior does in
this election, and we're hoping to have him on the
show soon, but we definitely have Glenn beck On coming up.
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