May 20, 2024 • 36 mins
Trump leads Biden by 6 in Harvard/Harris poll. Netanyahu indicated for war crimes by anti-Semitic ICC. Biden administration expresses condolences over death of terrorist leader of Iran. Trump trial testimony could be over today. Trump says he wants Biden drug tested before debate, explains why he accepted debate invites. Will blue cities get fed up and return to sanity?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in our number three Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.
Appreciate everybody hanging out with us. I'm in Washington, d C.
Buck is in Miami. We are going to have a
bunch of different guests from Capitol Hill as I am
in the middle of the swamp this next couple of days.
Preciade all of you hanging out with us. We've been
(00:21):
talking a lot about the Michael Cohen cross examination and
the fact that Cohen has now admitted that he stole
tens of thousands of dollars from the Trump organization, which,
as we went to break we just told you CNN
has now admitted is more consequential in terms of its
criminality than anything that Donald Trump has been charged with.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I would just say, if you steal sixty grand you
are probably going to prison, right. I mean, there's a
good chance if you steal sixty thousand dollars from somebody,
you may do some time. If you write down the
wrong thing in your business ledger, you will not do
some time, at least if you're not Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
No doubt, Harvard Harris poll is out showing Donald Trump
up six points. The numbers continue to move in Trump's direction.
You just heard us talking with Senator Ron Johnson, who
has won a bunch of tough races in Wisconsin, and
we have certainly a tough senate and presidential race. About
five months and change away from happening, there ran the
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helicopter crashes. We started off telling you the information that
the president and effectively their secretary of State both killed
in that helicopter crash. And we talked to you about
Michael Cohen and the amount of insane millions of dollars
he was making trading on his influence, pedaling buck, I
want to come here now. There has been an arrest
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warrant issued for Benjamin not net and Yahoo and other
Israeli leaders relating to the actions they have taken to
defend themselves in the wake of the October seventh terror attack.
The ICC, that is, the International Criminal Court, has accused
them of human rights violations. And you might be out
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there saying, okay, well, what's the impact of this. This
would theoretically mean that depending on the country that Netanyahu
went to, he could be arrested for international human rights violations. Now,
I don't think that anyone, for instance, in the United
States is going to be arresting him. I like to
think that no one in any European country would be
(02:24):
doing this.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
But it's a big deal.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
And I think it speaks to the inability of not
only many people on the left in the United States,
but many people around the world to recognize the distinction
between defending yourself in the wake of a heinous terror
attack that took more lives of Jewish individuals than any
day since the Holocaust, and actually being a human rights violator,
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as for instance, the Hamas terrorists are, or frankly Vladimir
Putin might be, who has also dealt with his own
potential human rights violations were his invasion and potential takeover
of Ukraine. You served in the CIA, You've dealt in
foreign affairs for a long time. What's your reaction when
(03:10):
you hear that Benjamin Netnahu and other top Israeli leaders
are being have been charged and indicted with ICC by
the ICC with human rights violations.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I think that the ICC is a joke, that international
law is essentially a fiction, and that this is showing
us once again that whenever you have a multilateral international
agency of some kind, you somehow always find a lot
of anti Semitism in it. I mean, you see this
(03:43):
with the UN and un secure whether I mean or
you know, UN Human Rights Council for example, which at
one point had Libya sitting on the UN Human Rights Council,
and they were still passing condemnations of Israeli behavior and
Israeli action. The real issue here is that the Muslim world, unfortunately,
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is absolutely soaked in anti Semitism.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
That is, the truth.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Doesn't mean that every Muslim obviously is an anti semit
It just means that the Islamic world in general, and
anyone who would question this would have to explain why
do so few Muslim countries have normalized relations with Israel?
Why can't you travel? Why is it that you go
to certain countries and I've been to them, and you
even have an Israeli stamp in your passport and they
(04:31):
won't let you enter. You know, I don't know if
you know that, Klaim, but I didn't have any idea. No,
that's crazy. Yes, oh it's a big deal. There are
countries that I've been to where the presence of an
Israeli stamp will get you barred from the country. So
meaning as an American, for example, if you visited Israel
and then tried to go to Lebanon or tried to
go to I think Turkey may even be one of these,
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but I'd have to go check. They're a handful of
number of these countries. Certainly don't want to try to
go to Pakistan with Israeli stamp, not an Israeli passport.
A stamp from Israel in your passport will get you
barred from the country. So there's a tremendous amount of
anti Semitism in the Muslim world. Okay, it is state backed,
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in state sponsored, and their entire countries that are effectively,
as a Iran being among the most noteworthy as a
function of state policy anti Semitic. What does that matter
to the International Criminal Court? But you have all these
signatories to it, which Israel is not a signatory. In
America is not a signatory, and that is because of
exactly what we're seeing here. You have all these Islamic countries,
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and unfortunately a lot of European countries, despite the history
of the last one hundred years or so, are deeply
anti Semitic to this day. There's a lot of anti Semitism.
So what I see here is exactly what we would expect,
and unfortunately it shows you the depth of the Jewish
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the hatred for the Jewish people that comes from a
lot of places, because there is no country on earth
that would suffer what Israel suffered on October seventh, and
have so many different countries that honestly have nothing to
do with Palestine, nothing to do with Israel, doing everything
in their power to undermine Israel, to stop it from
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defending itself, to prevent it from exercising it's sacred and
God given rights of self defense. I don't give a
crap what the International Criminal Court says. Israel is fighting
a just war. And all you really have to know
about this is claim the calls in the early now
it's all, oh, we don't like the prosecution of this war.
(06:43):
A lot of these countries that are now or you know,
whether it's groups, countries, international Criminal Court, they were calling
for a cease fire days after the terrorist attack of
October seventh, a cease fire. We don't remember, you know,
we don't. I shouldn't say remember. We don't hear about
that much anymore. But from the jew haters at the
UN and the Middle East and everywhere else, the expectation
(07:07):
was after their nine to eleven, and it was equivalent
to a nine to eleven style attack. After their nine
to eleven, they're supposed to open negotiations. Hamas still has hostages,
including as you rightly point out, American hostage five of them,
and it's on Israel to stop what it's doing. If
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this were the case, Hamas would have figured out a
way that terrorism always wins. And that's unfortunately what's at
stake right now, because if people who are vicious and
evil can perpetrate the most heinous violence as a function
of state policy and then turn around and play the
humanitarian rights game and have all these useful idiots.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Saying, oh, but they're being too mean in the fight.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Against the other people, the terrorists always win. Anytime they
want to do this, they get to do this. That
is a completely unacceptable proposition. And the International Criminal Court,
Look what else if the US we're not a signatory
to it because we know that this nonsense, because eventually
we'd have to go to war with some you know,
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crappy country somewhere, and all these human rights abusing third
world hellholes.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Would be like, oh, the US is an imperialist power.
We have to lock up their president.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Other news just came down the State Department. I don't
know if you've seen this yet, Buck, The State Department
has issued a statement on the death of Iranian President
Raizi Rozi and others in a helicopter crash.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Sad austere religious scholar is that how they're describing them.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
The United States expresses its official condolences for the death
of Iranian President Ibraham Rozi, Foreign Minister Emir abdal Holyhan
and other members of their delegation in a helicopter crash
in northwest Iran. As Iran selects a new president. We
reaffirm our support for the Iranian people and their struggle
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for human rights and fundamental freedoms. That's the last sentence,
which fine. Can you believe that the State Department is
issued an official condolence for the death of a terrorist
mass murderer who killed not only many of his own people,
but also was instrumental in so many attacks against American
(09:24):
soldiers in the Middle East. This feels like yet another
slap in the face from the Biden administration that they
would send official condolences from the United States government on
the death of a terrorist.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Look, the State Department, unfortunately is a very left wing,
infiltrated place, and has been even since I was in
the CIA, and the CIA is now as well, so
I'm not surprised that they would say something like this.
I think it's also interesting to me to see how
many people are assuming that there is some external hand
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in this, or that this is a that would that
would have to be that would involve a level of
knowledge of Iranian politics that I think assumes too much,
meaning well, who comes into power now, who takes over?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
What does this do internally? So I see this as most.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Likely an accident, as I said, although I'm open to
persuasion otherwise. You know, I'm just noting. I didn't think
the nord Stream pipeline was an accident. Everybody, and I
said so on this show. I'm not an official government
line guy, but helicopters in mountainous areas in bad weather
do fail. It does happen, they do go down, Okay,
nord Stream pipeline don't blow themselves up, and only a
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few people would know how to do that. So I
see things, I think for what they are, but I
think it's unlikely unfortunately to change any major dynamics in
the region. Because one problem, whether it's Iran or Syria,
which are very closely linked North Korea, any number of
states play that are truly tyrannies, is that they spend
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almost all of their energy on one thing and one
thing only, and that is staying in power. And everybody
who has any power is part of that machine. And
everybody who's in the military, everybody who's in the upper
political circles, every bureaucrat, for every government institution, their number
one priority isn't a constitution, it isn't a just society.
(11:25):
It is how do we stay as the people in charge?
And in some cases, because they realize if they don't,
they're all going to rot in prison the rest of
their lives. They might all be executed. Right, So that's
this is the challenge with it in autocracy, which is
what you have in Iran right now, is it's very
hard to get change. It eventually happens, but look how
long it took with the Soviet Union. So you know,
(11:47):
I saw people tweeting over the weekend like, oh my gosh,
World War three.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Is about to start. No, it's not. It's not going
to start over this.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
The question now I think that's open is does it
create much of a change in policy from the Iranian
reas or changing actions from the Iranian regime. I think
the answer is probably no. It's a really intractable problem.
And everybody who has been either there are two kinds
of people that get attention on the Iranian issue across
the board. People who are overly pessimistic there's going to
(12:15):
be a war any day now, and they've been saying
that for twenty years, or people who are overly optimistic,
which is, oh my gosh, you know, do you see
that they're actually allowing like more Western TV shows on
a legal satellite dishes. They're going to flip any day
now and become you know, Western democracy.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
No.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Usually, Tyrannies just managed to go far longer than people think.
They will have a far higher human casualty and human toll,
and eventually they collapse under their own weight, and no
one can predict when. And I'm not sure Ron is
anywhere near that point in time. But status quo is
not a way to get attention in the headlines. Clay,
that's the problem.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
You've also got, I mean, frankly eighty five year old Dietola,
who effectively is in control of everything. So when people
here president, they may think it's more significant. Again also
basically they're set secretary of state both dying. I just
think that the Amaldy people in the media could even
name the president until this happened. Clay the president of
iran oh I mean scarier than media. How many politicians
(13:12):
could even name it? Who are even dealing with foreign relations?
I could Biden? I don't think Biden.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I mean, if you read the newspapers, you know about
the Ayatola. Yes, if you read the newspapers you didn't
know about this guy.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I think that's correct. We come back.
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Can't be on with us right now. We certainly wish
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Truth and having fun. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. So we're talking about
the Trump trial in New York City. As we've mentioned
to you, the big revelation today is you have Michael
Cohen admitting that he committed I mean, he said under
oath that he committed what would be maybe it's unprosecutable
(16:38):
now grand larceny from a client and from his then
mentor and friend, Donald Trump. And the entire case revolves
around Michael cohen testimony in the first place. So you
have a admitted serial liar, disbarred attorney, convicted felon, and
now admitted thief as the centerpiece of the government's case
(17:03):
against a past and likely future president. Clay, what could
they do to add to the absurdity of this point?
At this point, it's a great question and update from
the trial. Todd blanche, the defense attorney for Trump, says
there's a likelihood we will rest today. There's been some
(17:24):
talk about whether Trump will take the stand. That means
that he would not. Expectation has been that he would not.
This case hasn't been proven, there's no need for him to.
But the actual defense case could be done today, which
would mean they'll schedule closing arguments, make motions to dismiss
the case.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
But this case has ended up.
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Being I think, just kind of blowing up in the
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very good. I was looking at some of the videos
though Buck of him over the weekend, and the difference
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between Joe Biden twenty twenty campaign and Joe Biden twenty
twenty four campaign is incredibly stark. And I'm not saying
that Joe Biden twenty twenty campaign was some sort of effervescent,
incredible communicator and political figure. He was not very good
in twenty twenty when they hit him in the basement,
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but he was able to go on the road in Iowa,
and he was able to go on the road in
New Hampshire and South Carolina, and he was doing public events,
he was doing town halls, all of those things that
they won't allow him to do. Now and Trump has
picked up on one of the things that we've been
talking about on this show for some time. Even took
calls from doctors about last week. It looks like Biden
(19:51):
is on drugs. And I'm not talking about cocaine. I'm
not talking about weed, right, that's hunter y, That's that's hunter.
I'm talking about some sort like we had caller who said, hey,
we think he's on pervigil, which was you know, is
designed to keep your alacrity up and your senses on
edge and you're more with it. Trump now is saying
(20:13):
that he wants Joe Biden drug tested. And here is
cut six from Trump, I believe over the weekend at
one of his rallies listening to cuts sorry, cut yeah,
cut six.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
I'm going to demand a drug test too. By the way,
I am, no, I really am. I don't want him
coming in like the State of the Union.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
He was high as a kite. They said, is that.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Joe up there, beautiful row And by the end of
the evening he's like, well, it was exhausted.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Right now, we're going to demand a drug test. But
fake Tapper and these people. Are they going to be fine?
Are they going to be fair? I think they're going
to be fair enough. They're not. You know, you have to.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Deal with it, right, So they call them fake Tapper.
It's a great nickname.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
And he also then said I accepted the debate with
Tapper because they thought I wouldn't. This is the June
twenty seventh CNN debate. I also thought, Buck, I don't
know if you saw this. Over the weekend, Trump accepted
an additional debate invite from NBC and Telemundo. Given how
Biden is hemorrhaging support with Hispanic voters, I thought that
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was a super interesting move by Trump, not to mention,
how is MSNBC going to criticize their parent company trying
to throw a debate. But Trump also addressed fears and
I heard from a lot of you, and I'm sure
you did, too, Buck, from people who say, hey, this
is going to be such a rig debate with CNN
with as you said, fake Tapper, as Trump calls him
as the primary moderator. Trump addressed that here's cut seven.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
I accept the debate.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
I accepted, you know why, because nobody thought he was
going to debate.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
They didn't think I'd accepted.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
I accept.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Then another one called. They put out another one.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
I said, I accept.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
They didn't even tell me where it was, who it was.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
I didn't care.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
What the hell difference, I said, Mac, I mean, you know,
so we did something that they were shocked at. They
had no idea that you know, they figured, well, we're
not going to do Shanna, We're not going to have
Chapper be the guy, and we're not going to have
other people involved in that show that you know, we
say said there was no negotiation.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I said, I accept anything you want.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Let's debate.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
That's where we're going. And I continue to believe, and
you heard Ron john Senator Ron Johnson from Wisconsin, if
you were listening in the second hour, sounds like he's
pretty clearly in the truth Justice in Clay Travis Camp
that Joe Biden is not going to be the nominee.
I continue to think Buck this June twenty seventh is
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past fail for Joe Biden. If he is not good,
they are going to accelerate the idea and the talk
of replacing him as they continue to spend tens of
millions of dollars. The polls aren't moving in fact, they're
actually moving against Biden. The new Harvard Harris poll out
today has Trump up six the betting markets to the
(22:58):
extent that they are signing and worth following. The money
is pouring in on Trump now he's a massive favorite.
Trump is to win Georgia, to win Arizona, and to
win Nevada, which would mean the only pathway to Joe
Biden if that winning reelection, if those states were to flip,
would mean Biden has to win Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania,
and he would also have to win the Omaha Nebraska
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single electoral vote to win by two electoral votes. It's
looking like that might possibly be the most likely route
by which Joe.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Biden were to win reelection.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
So there is I think a great deal of nervousness
and lack of confidence associated with that.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Yes, I think that there are people who are nervous
about it. I still go back to I do not
believe that they have a really decent alternative, and if
they did, they would have gone with it a long
time ago. Look, you heard Ron Johnson talking about this
with us earlier on in the program, when he was
saying that you know it's going to be a tough
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fight in this state of Wisconsin. There's no question it's
going to be a tough fight in Wisconsin. That shouldn't
be the case, but I think it will be the case.
And I think that's a little bit of a harbinger
of things to come for the presidential election. This should
be an absolute wipeout. But let's just take a momentary
review of recent years. The Democrats somehow have managed to
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escape all accountability for COVID. The Democrats somehow aren't being
blamed for negative net worth over four years for the
average American family, while Trump did twenty percent increase after
four years for the average American family.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Like, there's clearly clearly major.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Points that you can look at and understand why it
is that Joe Biden has been a failure. And yet
Donald Trump is still going to have to eke out
every vote he needs in every pl place that he
needs it in order to win this thing. So I
understand that right now it can seem like, how is
it even possible? But I refuse to forget what it
felt like in May of twenty twenty two, when you
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had a lot of the similar trends and somehow Democrats
were able to just get it where they needed it,
how they needed it. And you know that that's why
we just need to be focused all the way here
and do everything that we can, I believe to stay
stay on it, you know, keep the pedal to the metal, no.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Doubt they by the way, I'm reading from inside of
the courtroom, they have adjourned early. And man, this is
a messy situation going on in the trial right now,
where it appears things are basically ready to go to
the jury, but now there's a last minute debate about
whether or not someone is able to actually testify or not.
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So this is kind of crazy. As we come down
the home stretch here to see exactly how this is
going to all end up shaking out come back, we'll
give you the absolute latest on the Trump trial to
close out the show today.
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be good to go from there. Let me see what
else do I have here for you, Clay. I was
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in New York City of the weekend visiting family.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Do you miss it? As a wifelong New Yorker who
now lives in Miami. There's a lot of people who've
made that move. Do you miss living in New York City?
Speaker 2 (28:44):
I still have so much nostalgia for the place. I
go around, and it feels more comfortable for me than
any other place in the world still because I know
it better.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
It doesn't. It's interesting.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
The longer I'm away from it, the more it feels
like a lot of the complaints about the dirtiness of
the streets and situation on the subway, that's all true.
In fact, Ginger also known as Ginger Spice, that's what's
on her driver's license. She was with us, which was
great because she got to spend time with my little
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almost four year old nephew and they had a lot
of fun. He loves fluffy Ginger. Who doesn't. But she
was kind of a head turner, more so than usual
because the city streets were so dirty, and they also
we're a little wet from the rain that we got
her little booties and let me tell you you put
little little rubber boots on your dog, and all of
a sudden, everybody's just like, oh my gosh, are those
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little rubber boots on your dog?
Speaker 3 (29:41):
The answer is yes, that's right.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
We want to keep her little paws nice and dry,
so we people stopping even more so than usual. I
want to hang out with her. But it was also
an indication I think, unfortunately the city streets are not
in good shape. It's it's not a city that is
on the rise the way it was i'd say fifteen
years ago, when things were just humming in New York
City it was doing so well.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Did you see, speaking of things that used to be
doing well, this story, I just can't believe it's real.
I don't even know if you saw it. Did you
see the Oregon trans runner, this dude who won the
Oregon women's high school state title and they booed him
(30:24):
as he crossed the finish line. But for all these
people out there who keep saying, we're gonna have Riley
Gaines on the show tomorrow and we'll have this conversation
with her, for sure. But for all these people out there,
you speak about just things that you wouldn't have believed
or possible. People say, Oh, I don't know why you
care about this. Yeah, for the number of times that
(30:44):
they say I don't know why you care about this,
And then there's a state champion who's a dude who's
just beating girls like this is crazy. And the fact
that there were people booing, yet they're voting for politicians
that make this real is got to be sort of
a congruous And the same way with New York City,
where when you look around and you see how bad
it's become, San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, you have to blame
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yourself because people are voting for these policies to be
put in place. But I just keep wondering when the
reality is finally going to take and you're gonna get
a Juliani in all these different cities type who just
comes in and says, you knuckleheads, let me fix what
should be an amazing place just by enforcing truth, justice,
(31:27):
and a little bit of sanity. I worry that some
places are are too ideologically ossified and are too maybe
have too many dumb people to be honest, low information voters,
and also just start to think that these places have
to be like this and I think I don't know
if I mentioned the show. My little brother went to
(31:49):
Japan recently just for fun with his wife. They just
have never been. I've always wanted to go. I don't
want to go.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Have you been? No? No, I love it. We don't
have to do.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Clay and Buck live from Tokyo at some point, all
of a Suddener engineers. That would be good, yes, but no,
I think that would be a lot of fun. I
have no idea what time it would even be over.
There would be very different timetable. But to be in
a country, this is one thing I can take from
everyone I know who's been there, and I think it
matters for Americans, and it's important that we hear this.
(32:18):
A country of over one hundred million people where there
is effectively no violent crime, no trash in the streets,
no disorder, and no dysfunction, that it is possible, in fact,
you can be And this is not some little you know.
It's one thing to say, oh, there's an island to
the South Pacific where there's no Yeah, well, you know,
(32:39):
if three hundred people live there and they all know
each other and there's no one else coming in or
coming or going really except for wealthy tourists. That doesn't
really count. Japan is as a country with over one
hundred million people, where you can basically I don't know.
I mean it's probably it's definitely under one hundred murders
a year in the whole country. I mean that the
number of murders is absolutely infinitesimal. Then the crime is
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so low. And I bring it up not because oh,
why can't we be like Japan, No, we're very different.
I understand that we don't have to accept these things
that we accept in American cities. Now, we don't have
to have crime, we don't have to have disorder, we
don't have to have dirty streets. These are choices, choices
made by who you vote for, choices made by what
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you support and how you live your own life. Right,
But there are choices that are being made that lead
us to these situations in all these places. And it's
not you know, like, there's always going to be some
rich people and some poor people, Like there's always going
to be people that make good decisions and bad decisions.
You can't get rid of everything that is unpleasant in society,
but you don't have to have cities in America with
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murder rates that are worse than any city in I
rock right.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Now, which we do speaking of cities with incredible and
way too high murder rates. I'm in DC right now.
I went to college here. I was looking up some
of the data because I was curious. When I got
to college in DC nineteen ninety seven was very high.
It basically fell for about twenty five years, got better
(34:05):
and better and better until COVID. And now it has
skyrocketed to such an extent here that we are all
the way back to where we were in nineteen ninety seven.
So things got bad in DC. Many of you out
there will remember how dangerous it got when I was
a freshman in college in ninety seven. The numbers started
to kind of collapse. We got a new mayor, I
(34:28):
remember Anthony Williams, who was sort of a data nerd
and guru, and they put force, put support behind police,
They started to enforce the law, and DC had about
twenty years where things got progressively better. And now all
of a sudden, the wheels have come off and they
are setting twenty five year highs again on murder. And
(34:49):
it's like the last twenty years just didn't happen, things
got worse, and much of American life is about trying
to make things better. This city that I'm in right now,
there are many things that are wrong with you, but
just in terms of sheer safety of the people who
live here has collapsed over the last several years.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Yeah, it's and again it's because of choices. This is
not a This is not a natural disaster or something.
It's not a tornado, it's not an This is what happens.
We deal with it as best we can, no matter
how you know, damaging or tragic it may be. This
could all go away, and in fact, we know how
to make it go away. But there are people who,
(35:28):
for their own reasons lie lie about this. They pretend that,
you know, enforcing the law is somehow an unfair thing.
They pretend that quality of life crimes are not a
real concern. I mean, I'll tell you one thing. Walk
on the streets of New York City. There is marijuana
smoke everywhere.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Everywhere.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
You are breathing in weed smoke all over the place.
And I blame myself at some level. Not I mean,
I don't smoke marijuana, and I haven't touched the stuff
in thirty years over thirty years. Wait, is it over
thirty years if you get whole? I know, No, not
over thirty years, over twenty five whatever.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
The point is.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Not since I was eighteen years old. The point is
they could get rid of all this stuff if they
wanted to, but they don't want too, quay, and I
think there's a big lesson in that for how the
country's functioning and how Joe Biden is president right now.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
We will be back tomorrow. I'll be in DC. Senator
Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee is going to join us. Will
also be joined by Riley Gaines More. I believe there's
a good chance our friend Jim Jordan is going to
swing by lots to talk about tomorrow as well. Trump
trial looks like it's going to be coming to a
close soon. First major impact of what the jury might
(36:41):
do could get it soon as part of the closing arguments.
We'll break all that down for you in more Tuesday edition.
Claim Buck
Welcome back in our number three Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.
Appreciate everybody hanging out with us. I'm in Washington, d C.
Buck is in Miami. We are going to have a
bunch of different guests from Capitol Hill as I am
in the middle of the swamp this next couple of days.
Preciade all of you hanging out with us. We've been
(00:21):
talking a lot about the Michael Cohen cross examination and
the fact that Cohen has now admitted that he stole
tens of thousands of dollars from the Trump organization, which,
as we went to break we just told you CNN
has now admitted is more consequential in terms of its
criminality than anything that Donald Trump has been charged with.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I would just say, if you steal sixty grand you
are probably going to prison, right. I mean, there's a
good chance if you steal sixty thousand dollars from somebody,
you may do some time. If you write down the
wrong thing in your business ledger, you will not do
some time, at least if you're not Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
No doubt, Harvard Harris poll is out showing Donald Trump
up six points. The numbers continue to move in Trump's direction.
You just heard us talking with Senator Ron Johnson, who
has won a bunch of tough races in Wisconsin, and
we have certainly a tough senate and presidential race. About
five months and change away from happening, there ran the
(01:20):
helicopter crashes. We started off telling you the information that
the president and effectively their secretary of State both killed
in that helicopter crash. And we talked to you about
Michael Cohen and the amount of insane millions of dollars
he was making trading on his influence, pedaling buck, I
want to come here now. There has been an arrest
(01:41):
warrant issued for Benjamin not net and Yahoo and other
Israeli leaders relating to the actions they have taken to
defend themselves in the wake of the October seventh terror attack.
The ICC, that is, the International Criminal Court, has accused
them of human rights violations. And you might be out
(02:02):
there saying, okay, well, what's the impact of this. This
would theoretically mean that depending on the country that Netanyahu
went to, he could be arrested for international human rights violations. Now,
I don't think that anyone, for instance, in the United
States is going to be arresting him. I like to
think that no one in any European country would be
(02:24):
doing this.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
But it's a big deal.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
And I think it speaks to the inability of not
only many people on the left in the United States,
but many people around the world to recognize the distinction
between defending yourself in the wake of a heinous terror
attack that took more lives of Jewish individuals than any
day since the Holocaust, and actually being a human rights violator,
(02:50):
as for instance, the Hamas terrorists are, or frankly Vladimir
Putin might be, who has also dealt with his own
potential human rights violations were his invasion and potential takeover
of Ukraine. You served in the CIA, You've dealt in
foreign affairs for a long time. What's your reaction when
(03:10):
you hear that Benjamin Netnahu and other top Israeli leaders
are being have been charged and indicted with ICC by
the ICC with human rights violations.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I think that the ICC is a joke, that international
law is essentially a fiction, and that this is showing
us once again that whenever you have a multilateral international
agency of some kind, you somehow always find a lot
of anti Semitism in it. I mean, you see this
(03:43):
with the UN and un secure whether I mean or
you know, UN Human Rights Council for example, which at
one point had Libya sitting on the UN Human Rights Council,
and they were still passing condemnations of Israeli behavior and
Israeli action. The real issue here is that the Muslim world, unfortunately,
(04:06):
is absolutely soaked in anti Semitism.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
That is, the truth.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Doesn't mean that every Muslim obviously is an anti semit
It just means that the Islamic world in general, and
anyone who would question this would have to explain why
do so few Muslim countries have normalized relations with Israel?
Why can't you travel? Why is it that you go
to certain countries and I've been to them, and you
even have an Israeli stamp in your passport and they
(04:31):
won't let you enter. You know, I don't know if
you know that, Klaim, but I didn't have any idea. No,
that's crazy. Yes, oh it's a big deal. There are
countries that I've been to where the presence of an
Israeli stamp will get you barred from the country. So
meaning as an American, for example, if you visited Israel
and then tried to go to Lebanon or tried to
go to I think Turkey may even be one of these,
(04:53):
but I'd have to go check. They're a handful of
number of these countries. Certainly don't want to try to
go to Pakistan with Israeli stamp, not an Israeli passport.
A stamp from Israel in your passport will get you
barred from the country. So there's a tremendous amount of
anti Semitism in the Muslim world. Okay, it is state backed,
(05:14):
in state sponsored, and their entire countries that are effectively,
as a Iran being among the most noteworthy as a
function of state policy anti Semitic. What does that matter
to the International Criminal Court? But you have all these
signatories to it, which Israel is not a signatory. In
America is not a signatory, and that is because of
exactly what we're seeing here. You have all these Islamic countries,
(05:37):
and unfortunately a lot of European countries, despite the history
of the last one hundred years or so, are deeply
anti Semitic to this day. There's a lot of anti Semitism.
So what I see here is exactly what we would expect,
and unfortunately it shows you the depth of the Jewish
(05:59):
the hatred for the Jewish people that comes from a
lot of places, because there is no country on earth
that would suffer what Israel suffered on October seventh, and
have so many different countries that honestly have nothing to
do with Palestine, nothing to do with Israel, doing everything
in their power to undermine Israel, to stop it from
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defending itself, to prevent it from exercising it's sacred and
God given rights of self defense. I don't give a
crap what the International Criminal Court says. Israel is fighting
a just war. And all you really have to know
about this is claim the calls in the early now
it's all, oh, we don't like the prosecution of this war.
(06:43):
A lot of these countries that are now or you know,
whether it's groups, countries, international Criminal Court, they were calling
for a cease fire days after the terrorist attack of
October seventh, a cease fire. We don't remember, you know,
we don't. I shouldn't say remember. We don't hear about
that much anymore. But from the jew haters at the
UN and the Middle East and everywhere else, the expectation
(07:07):
was after their nine to eleven, and it was equivalent
to a nine to eleven style attack. After their nine
to eleven, they're supposed to open negotiations. Hamas still has hostages,
including as you rightly point out, American hostage five of them,
and it's on Israel to stop what it's doing. If
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this were the case, Hamas would have figured out a
way that terrorism always wins. And that's unfortunately what's at
stake right now, because if people who are vicious and
evil can perpetrate the most heinous violence as a function
of state policy and then turn around and play the
humanitarian rights game and have all these useful idiots.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Saying, oh, but they're being too mean in the fight.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Against the other people, the terrorists always win. Anytime they
want to do this, they get to do this. That
is a completely unacceptable proposition. And the International Criminal Court,
Look what else if the US we're not a signatory
to it because we know that this nonsense, because eventually
we'd have to go to war with some you know,
(08:12):
crappy country somewhere, and all these human rights abusing third
world hellholes.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Would be like, oh, the US is an imperialist power.
We have to lock up their president.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Other news just came down the State Department. I don't
know if you've seen this yet, Buck, The State Department
has issued a statement on the death of Iranian President
Raizi Rozi and others in a helicopter crash.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Sad austere religious scholar is that how they're describing them.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
The United States expresses its official condolences for the death
of Iranian President Ibraham Rozi, Foreign Minister Emir abdal Holyhan
and other members of their delegation in a helicopter crash
in northwest Iran. As Iran selects a new president. We
reaffirm our support for the Iranian people and their struggle
(09:03):
for human rights and fundamental freedoms. That's the last sentence,
which fine. Can you believe that the State Department is
issued an official condolence for the death of a terrorist
mass murderer who killed not only many of his own people,
but also was instrumental in so many attacks against American
(09:24):
soldiers in the Middle East. This feels like yet another
slap in the face from the Biden administration that they
would send official condolences from the United States government on
the death of a terrorist.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Look, the State Department, unfortunately is a very left wing,
infiltrated place, and has been even since I was in
the CIA, and the CIA is now as well, so
I'm not surprised that they would say something like this.
I think it's also interesting to me to see how
many people are assuming that there is some external hand
(09:59):
in this, or that this is a that would that
would have to be that would involve a level of
knowledge of Iranian politics that I think assumes too much,
meaning well, who comes into power now, who takes over?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
What does this do internally? So I see this as most.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Likely an accident, as I said, although I'm open to
persuasion otherwise. You know, I'm just noting. I didn't think
the nord Stream pipeline was an accident. Everybody, and I
said so on this show. I'm not an official government
line guy, but helicopters in mountainous areas in bad weather
do fail. It does happen, they do go down, Okay,
nord Stream pipeline don't blow themselves up, and only a
(10:41):
few people would know how to do that. So I
see things, I think for what they are, but I
think it's unlikely unfortunately to change any major dynamics in
the region. Because one problem, whether it's Iran or Syria,
which are very closely linked North Korea, any number of
states play that are truly tyrannies, is that they spend
(11:02):
almost all of their energy on one thing and one
thing only, and that is staying in power. And everybody
who has any power is part of that machine. And
everybody who's in the military, everybody who's in the upper
political circles, every bureaucrat, for every government institution, their number
one priority isn't a constitution, it isn't a just society.
(11:25):
It is how do we stay as the people in charge?
And in some cases, because they realize if they don't,
they're all going to rot in prison the rest of
their lives. They might all be executed. Right, So that's
this is the challenge with it in autocracy, which is
what you have in Iran right now, is it's very
hard to get change. It eventually happens, but look how
long it took with the Soviet Union. So you know,
(11:47):
I saw people tweeting over the weekend like, oh my gosh,
World War three.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Is about to start. No, it's not. It's not going
to start over this.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
The question now I think that's open is does it
create much of a change in policy from the Iranian
reas or changing actions from the Iranian regime. I think
the answer is probably no. It's a really intractable problem.
And everybody who has been either there are two kinds
of people that get attention on the Iranian issue across
the board. People who are overly pessimistic there's going to
(12:15):
be a war any day now, and they've been saying
that for twenty years, or people who are overly optimistic,
which is, oh my gosh, you know, do you see
that they're actually allowing like more Western TV shows on
a legal satellite dishes. They're going to flip any day
now and become you know, Western democracy.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
No.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Usually, Tyrannies just managed to go far longer than people think.
They will have a far higher human casualty and human toll,
and eventually they collapse under their own weight, and no
one can predict when. And I'm not sure Ron is
anywhere near that point in time. But status quo is
not a way to get attention in the headlines. Clay,
that's the problem.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
You've also got, I mean, frankly eighty five year old Dietola,
who effectively is in control of everything. So when people
here president, they may think it's more significant. Again also
basically they're set secretary of state both dying. I just
think that the Amaldy people in the media could even
name the president until this happened. Clay the president of
iran oh I mean scarier than media. How many politicians
(13:12):
could even name it? Who are even dealing with foreign relations?
I could Biden? I don't think Biden.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I mean, if you read the newspapers, you know about
the Ayatola. Yes, if you read the newspapers you didn't
know about this guy.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I think that's correct. We come back.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Senator Haggerty has got an emergency health related in his family.
Can't be on with us right now. We certainly wish
his family the best. He's fine, but we will talk
with him at some point in the future. Let's dive
in a little bit more into some of this craziness
surrounding the Michael Cohen trial. We will dive into that
and discuss and look, by next week, the jury's going
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to have it in his hand. Should we be optimistic
or should we be pessimistic? This case is basically over.
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Truth and having fun. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. So we're talking about
the Trump trial in New York City. As we've mentioned
to you, the big revelation today is you have Michael
Cohen admitting that he committed I mean, he said under
oath that he committed what would be maybe it's unprosecutable
(16:38):
now grand larceny from a client and from his then
mentor and friend, Donald Trump. And the entire case revolves
around Michael cohen testimony in the first place. So you
have a admitted serial liar, disbarred attorney, convicted felon, and
now admitted thief as the centerpiece of the government's case
(17:03):
against a past and likely future president. Clay, what could
they do to add to the absurdity of this point?
At this point, it's a great question and update from
the trial. Todd blanche, the defense attorney for Trump, says
there's a likelihood we will rest today. There's been some
(17:24):
talk about whether Trump will take the stand. That means
that he would not. Expectation has been that he would not.
This case hasn't been proven, there's no need for him to.
But the actual defense case could be done today, which
would mean they'll schedule closing arguments, make motions to dismiss
the case.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
But this case has ended up.
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twenty four campaign is incredibly stark. And I'm not saying
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but he was able to go on the road in Iowa,
and he was able to go on the road in
New Hampshire and South Carolina, and he was doing public events,
he was doing town halls, all of those things that
they won't allow him to do. Now and Trump has
picked up on one of the things that we've been
talking about on this show for some time. Even took
calls from doctors about last week. It looks like Biden
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is on drugs. And I'm not talking about cocaine. I'm
not talking about weed, right, that's hunter y, That's that's hunter.
I'm talking about some sort like we had caller who said, hey,
we think he's on pervigil, which was you know, is
designed to keep your alacrity up and your senses on
edge and you're more with it. Trump now is saying
(20:13):
that he wants Joe Biden drug tested. And here is
cut six from Trump, I believe over the weekend at
one of his rallies listening to cuts sorry, cut yeah,
cut six.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
I'm going to demand a drug test too. By the way,
I am, no, I really am. I don't want him
coming in like the State of the Union.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
He was high as a kite. They said, is that.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Joe up there, beautiful row And by the end of
the evening he's like, well, it was exhausted.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Right now, we're going to demand a drug test. But
fake Tapper and these people. Are they going to be fine?
Are they going to be fair? I think they're going
to be fair enough. They're not. You know, you have to.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Deal with it, right, So they call them fake Tapper.
It's a great nickname.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
And he also then said I accepted the debate with
Tapper because they thought I wouldn't. This is the June
twenty seventh CNN debate. I also thought, Buck, I don't
know if you saw this. Over the weekend, Trump accepted
an additional debate invite from NBC and Telemundo. Given how
Biden is hemorrhaging support with Hispanic voters, I thought that
(21:14):
was a super interesting move by Trump, not to mention,
how is MSNBC going to criticize their parent company trying
to throw a debate. But Trump also addressed fears and
I heard from a lot of you, and I'm sure
you did, too, Buck, from people who say, hey, this
is going to be such a rig debate with CNN
with as you said, fake Tapper, as Trump calls him
as the primary moderator. Trump addressed that here's cut seven.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
I accept the debate.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
I accepted, you know why, because nobody thought he was
going to debate.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
They didn't think I'd accepted.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
I accept.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Then another one called. They put out another one.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
I said, I accept.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
They didn't even tell me where it was, who it was.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
I didn't care.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
What the hell difference, I said, Mac, I mean, you know,
so we did something that they were shocked at. They
had no idea that you know, they figured, well, we're
not going to do Shanna, We're not going to have
Chapper be the guy, and we're not going to have
other people involved in that show that you know, we
say said there was no negotiation.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I said, I accept anything you want.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Let's debate.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
That's where we're going. And I continue to believe, and
you heard Ron john Senator Ron Johnson from Wisconsin, if
you were listening in the second hour, sounds like he's
pretty clearly in the truth Justice in Clay Travis Camp
that Joe Biden is not going to be the nominee.
I continue to think Buck this June twenty seventh is
(22:37):
past fail for Joe Biden. If he is not good,
they are going to accelerate the idea and the talk
of replacing him as they continue to spend tens of
millions of dollars. The polls aren't moving in fact, they're
actually moving against Biden. The new Harvard Harris poll out
today has Trump up six the betting markets to the
(22:58):
extent that they are signing and worth following. The money
is pouring in on Trump now he's a massive favorite.
Trump is to win Georgia, to win Arizona, and to
win Nevada, which would mean the only pathway to Joe
Biden if that winning reelection, if those states were to flip,
would mean Biden has to win Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania,
and he would also have to win the Omaha Nebraska
(23:22):
single electoral vote to win by two electoral votes. It's
looking like that might possibly be the most likely route
by which Joe.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Biden were to win reelection.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
So there is I think a great deal of nervousness
and lack of confidence associated with that.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Yes, I think that there are people who are nervous
about it. I still go back to I do not
believe that they have a really decent alternative, and if
they did, they would have gone with it a long
time ago. Look, you heard Ron Johnson talking about this
with us earlier on in the program, when he was
saying that you know it's going to be a tough
(24:05):
fight in this state of Wisconsin. There's no question it's
going to be a tough fight in Wisconsin. That shouldn't
be the case, but I think it will be the case.
And I think that's a little bit of a harbinger
of things to come for the presidential election. This should
be an absolute wipeout. But let's just take a momentary
review of recent years. The Democrats somehow have managed to
(24:28):
escape all accountability for COVID. The Democrats somehow aren't being
blamed for negative net worth over four years for the
average American family, while Trump did twenty percent increase after
four years for the average American family.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Like, there's clearly clearly major.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Points that you can look at and understand why it
is that Joe Biden has been a failure. And yet
Donald Trump is still going to have to eke out
every vote he needs in every pl place that he
needs it in order to win this thing. So I
understand that right now it can seem like, how is
it even possible? But I refuse to forget what it
felt like in May of twenty twenty two, when you
(25:11):
had a lot of the similar trends and somehow Democrats
were able to just get it where they needed it,
how they needed it. And you know that that's why
we just need to be focused all the way here
and do everything that we can, I believe to stay
stay on it, you know, keep the pedal to the metal, no.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Doubt they by the way, I'm reading from inside of
the courtroom, they have adjourned early. And man, this is
a messy situation going on in the trial right now,
where it appears things are basically ready to go to
the jury, but now there's a last minute debate about
whether or not someone is able to actually testify or not.
(25:52):
So this is kind of crazy. As we come down
the home stretch here to see exactly how this is
going to all end up shaking out come back, we'll
give you the absolute latest on the Trump trial to
close out the show today.
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else do I have here for you, Clay. I was
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in New York City of the weekend visiting family.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Do you miss it? As a wifelong New Yorker who
now lives in Miami. There's a lot of people who've
made that move. Do you miss living in New York City?
Speaker 2 (28:44):
I still have so much nostalgia for the place. I
go around, and it feels more comfortable for me than
any other place in the world still because I know
it better.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
It doesn't. It's interesting.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
The longer I'm away from it, the more it feels
like a lot of the complaints about the dirtiness of
the streets and situation on the subway, that's all true.
In fact, Ginger also known as Ginger Spice, that's what's
on her driver's license. She was with us, which was
great because she got to spend time with my little
(29:17):
almost four year old nephew and they had a lot
of fun. He loves fluffy Ginger. Who doesn't. But she
was kind of a head turner, more so than usual
because the city streets were so dirty, and they also
we're a little wet from the rain that we got
her little booties and let me tell you you put
little little rubber boots on your dog, and all of
a sudden, everybody's just like, oh my gosh, are those
(29:39):
little rubber boots on your dog?
Speaker 3 (29:41):
The answer is yes, that's right.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
We want to keep her little paws nice and dry,
so we people stopping even more so than usual. I
want to hang out with her. But it was also
an indication I think, unfortunately the city streets are not
in good shape. It's it's not a city that is
on the rise the way it was i'd say fifteen
years ago, when things were just humming in New York
City it was doing so well.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Did you see, speaking of things that used to be
doing well, this story, I just can't believe it's real.
I don't even know if you saw it. Did you
see the Oregon trans runner, this dude who won the
Oregon women's high school state title and they booed him
(30:24):
as he crossed the finish line. But for all these
people out there who keep saying, we're gonna have Riley
Gaines on the show tomorrow and we'll have this conversation
with her, for sure. But for all these people out there,
you speak about just things that you wouldn't have believed
or possible. People say, Oh, I don't know why you
care about this. Yeah, for the number of times that
(30:44):
they say I don't know why you care about this,
And then there's a state champion who's a dude who's
just beating girls like this is crazy. And the fact
that there were people booing, yet they're voting for politicians
that make this real is got to be sort of
a congruous And the same way with New York City,
where when you look around and you see how bad
it's become, San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, you have to blame
(31:07):
yourself because people are voting for these policies to be
put in place. But I just keep wondering when the
reality is finally going to take and you're gonna get
a Juliani in all these different cities type who just
comes in and says, you knuckleheads, let me fix what
should be an amazing place just by enforcing truth, justice,
(31:27):
and a little bit of sanity. I worry that some
places are are too ideologically ossified and are too maybe
have too many dumb people to be honest, low information voters,
and also just start to think that these places have
to be like this and I think I don't know
if I mentioned the show. My little brother went to
(31:49):
Japan recently just for fun with his wife. They just
have never been. I've always wanted to go. I don't
want to go.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Have you been? No? No, I love it. We don't
have to do.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Clay and Buck live from Tokyo at some point, all
of a Suddener engineers. That would be good, yes, but no,
I think that would be a lot of fun. I
have no idea what time it would even be over.
There would be very different timetable. But to be in
a country, this is one thing I can take from
everyone I know who's been there, and I think it
matters for Americans, and it's important that we hear this.
(32:18):
A country of over one hundred million people where there
is effectively no violent crime, no trash in the streets,
no disorder, and no dysfunction, that it is possible, in fact,
you can be And this is not some little you know.
It's one thing to say, oh, there's an island to
the South Pacific where there's no Yeah, well, you know,
(32:39):
if three hundred people live there and they all know
each other and there's no one else coming in or
coming or going really except for wealthy tourists. That doesn't
really count. Japan is as a country with over one
hundred million people, where you can basically I don't know.
I mean it's probably it's definitely under one hundred murders
a year in the whole country. I mean that the
number of murders is absolutely infinitesimal. Then the crime is
(33:00):
so low. And I bring it up not because oh,
why can't we be like Japan, No, we're very different.
I understand that we don't have to accept these things
that we accept in American cities. Now, we don't have
to have crime, we don't have to have disorder, we
don't have to have dirty streets. These are choices, choices
made by who you vote for, choices made by what
(33:21):
you support and how you live your own life. Right,
But there are choices that are being made that lead
us to these situations in all these places. And it's
not you know, like, there's always going to be some
rich people and some poor people, Like there's always going
to be people that make good decisions and bad decisions.
You can't get rid of everything that is unpleasant in society,
but you don't have to have cities in America with
(33:42):
murder rates that are worse than any city in I
rock right.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Now, which we do speaking of cities with incredible and
way too high murder rates. I'm in DC right now.
I went to college here. I was looking up some
of the data because I was curious. When I got
to college in DC nineteen ninety seven was very high.
It basically fell for about twenty five years, got better
(34:05):
and better and better until COVID. And now it has
skyrocketed to such an extent here that we are all
the way back to where we were in nineteen ninety seven.
So things got bad in DC. Many of you out
there will remember how dangerous it got when I was
a freshman in college in ninety seven. The numbers started
to kind of collapse. We got a new mayor, I
(34:28):
remember Anthony Williams, who was sort of a data nerd
and guru, and they put force, put support behind police,
They started to enforce the law, and DC had about
twenty years where things got progressively better. And now all
of a sudden, the wheels have come off and they
are setting twenty five year highs again on murder. And
(34:49):
it's like the last twenty years just didn't happen, things
got worse, and much of American life is about trying
to make things better. This city that I'm in right now,
there are many things that are wrong with you, but
just in terms of sheer safety of the people who
live here has collapsed over the last several years.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Yeah, it's and again it's because of choices. This is
not a This is not a natural disaster or something.
It's not a tornado, it's not an This is what happens.
We deal with it as best we can, no matter
how you know, damaging or tragic it may be. This
could all go away, and in fact, we know how
to make it go away. But there are people who,
(35:28):
for their own reasons lie lie about this. They pretend that,
you know, enforcing the law is somehow an unfair thing.
They pretend that quality of life crimes are not a
real concern. I mean, I'll tell you one thing. Walk
on the streets of New York City. There is marijuana
smoke everywhere.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Everywhere.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
You are breathing in weed smoke all over the place.
And I blame myself at some level. Not I mean,
I don't smoke marijuana, and I haven't touched the stuff
in thirty years over thirty years. Wait, is it over
thirty years if you get whole? I know, No, not
over thirty years, over twenty five whatever.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
The point is.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Not since I was eighteen years old. The point is
they could get rid of all this stuff if they
wanted to, but they don't want too, quay, and I
think there's a big lesson in that for how the
country's functioning and how Joe Biden is president right now.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
We will be back tomorrow. I'll be in DC. Senator
Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee is going to join us. Will
also be joined by Riley Gaines More. I believe there's
a good chance our friend Jim Jordan is going to
swing by lots to talk about tomorrow as well. Trump
trial looks like it's going to be coming to a
close soon. First major impact of what the jury might
(36:41):
do could get it soon as part of the closing arguments.
We'll break all that down for you in more Tuesday edition.
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